🔌│tech

[umbral heron]

I can only tell avoid HP at all costs

[warm ore]

It's a constant jump in my experience, not one brand keeps using all the components you want every time around, sometimes it's ASUS, sometimes Lenovo, sometimes MSI, then even Dell.

[ashen spindle]

every company has ups and downs just depends on whats a better deal and better support in your area

[warm ore]

It's better if you search by the exact components you want and then land on whichever has thorough testing done about

[unkempt lake]

@distant tapir https://videocardz.com/newz/210199

TIME TO UPDATE AGAINNNN

[frozen drift]

Do you all still use ASUS MOBO/GPU even after the huge asus customer support issue?

[unkempt lake]

if it's a really good deal then sure

But if i can get an alternative for same price i'd rather go with someone else

[warm ore]

Yeah issues specific to some products and some batches or points of time doesn't make me not ever wanting to buy from a certain brand again, i treat all product lines different and it's also dependent on the impact and re-occurence of the issue.
I'm buying ASUS still.

[umbral heron]

ASRock

[frozen drift]

Because like ASUS MOBO literally blew up while people were trying to overclock things. Although nowadays I'm seeing razer getting flamed lol

[warm ore]

Not aware of that one specifically, but i'm sure they covered the problem.

[thick elk]

So far not had much problem with Asrock specifically, but that ryzen 9000 issue seems persistent

Missed the last message sorry bout that

[warm ore]

A more wide spread "blow up" type issue is what some Gigabyte PSUs had, now thats a product from a brand i would never buy ^^

[ashen spindle]

every brand can be fine the exact product matters more than the brand name in 90% of cases

[umbral heron]

When it comes to laptops I'd say target ASUS and Lenovo and avoid HP and Dell
These two are notorious when it comes to issues with their firmware and "security measures"
Lenovo I never had any issues with, and ASUS' only annoying thing is Armoury Crate

[warm ore]

This is exactly with "anyone can have issues" in mind, but the Gigabyte incidents were bad enough that i would never even recommend it again. Especially when you have plenty alternatives, often better.

[thick elk]

Well there are some reasons not to like Asus specifically, for example if you want to use fan control on linux due to their specific implementation.

[ashen spindle]

yeah gigabyte psus are just all not great quality

but could very well be that in 2 year they have the best

[frozen drift]

What parts do lenovo manufacture for desktops? Also, do acer produce any desktop parts?

[ashen spindle]

nothing really

[warm ore]

Last ASUS mobo incident i recall very sharply was one of the Intel based high end boards, a full batch of them had one component polarity shifted, so it would burn out mobos. But they covered all that damage.
Certainly a sour taste, but they handled it, so i would not be against them based on that.

[thick elk]

Also to add to anecdotes about other gigabyte products, I have 2 gigabyte monitors and they have the obnoxious anti-feature to disconnect, then reconnect whenever they recieve no display signal.
Very fun when you disable display output on one.

[unkempt lake]

It's not just 9000

I know someone who had a 7800x3d die on an asrock b860 mobo

With launch bios no expo cuz well dude was a noob

[ashen spindle]

a single case doesnt mean anything

cpus also just die normally

[unkempt lake]

There's other cases of 7000 on b860

[umbral heron]

Me 9000 does happily choo choo in ASRock mobo

[unkempt lake]

look at the asrock sub

[warm ore]

When it comes to their GPUs, i'm not aware of any issues currently, my personal distaste is more about how much TuF and RoG tax there is when compared to many other SKUs, when sometimes other SKUs offer the same perf and clocks.

[thick elk]

Exactly I can say just as much with having one that is still alive having used both a b650 and x870 Asrock motherboard.

[frozen drift]

How big is the difference from 7800X3D to 9800X3D? I doubt pairing an RTX 5090 with 7800X3D will hold it back by a lot right?

[unkempt lake]

Negligible

[warm ore]

You can get away with it

[umbral heron]

About 5%? Not really a reason no upgrade

[unkempt lake]

Unless you're at 1080p

[ashen spindle]

0% in some cases 20% best case, depends on game

[warm ore]

But other than the price i don't see a reason to go previous gen

[unkempt lake]

No one will buy a 5090 to play at 1080p low

Besides an absolute moron

[ashen spindle]

I'm not talking about 1080p

[warm ore]

it's roughly 100 EUR diff right now from the listings i'M seeing

[unkempt lake]

Did you update your bios?

[umbral heron]

I'm not at home yet
Still on 3.30

[frozen drift]

What differences are there between a laptop CPU and GPU other than power limitations due to cooling capacity differences? Like 14900HX vs 14900K

[ashen spindle]

you can still be cpu bound at 4k in some games with a 9800x3d, its just not most games

[unkempt lake]

So you had updated it previously

[ashen spindle]

between those basically nothing

[misty matrix]

lows on 9800x3d significantly better tho

[unkempt lake]

Tbh the asrock thing i'm starting to wonder if it's not a hardware related thing

Its been so fucking long and

It keeps happenning

[thick elk]

Also bios updates are a bit of a pain, generally quite lazy around them, wish they provided tools to migrate settings, which really does not work reliably

[umbral heron]

40% on Factorio

[thick elk]

So probably will do it sometime

[unkempt lake]

I only update if there's a fix i want

[warm ore]

Power limitations therefore consumption, size and performance :)

[unkempt lake]

In my case i havent updated in a year on my msi board, since they did the whole improve boot times updates that finally made my pc boot fast lol @thick elk

[ashen spindle]

HX cpus on intel are litearlly just the desktop chips in a laptop

[frozen drift]

size of what? Aren't the two chips basically the same thing?

[warm ore]

of the CPUs

[thick elk]

Oh that definitely matters a lot

[ashen spindle]

it depends, they can be literally the same or completely different

depends on which ones you compare

[unkempt lake]

Exactly, all the other updates are just stuff for 9000x3d which i dont have so i dont see the point in updating

So honestly just read the patch notes

Then drcide based on what's in the notes

If you're on asrock i'd def update regardless tho just becaue of all the issues

[thick elk]

I am, never had any though.
Just specifically with a memory oc and fan curves set up (as a fallback) bit of a pain to migrate those back.

so lazyness prevails.

To be fair memory tuning on a 7800x3d not worth it at all but enjoyed doing it.

[umbral heron]

Just turn on XMP and carry on

[thick elk]

But what I have is stable now, I see no need to go back.

Also pretty safe to enable xmp then bump to 6200 with the matching if speeds.

To be honest setting the fan speeds back to sane levels in case I boot Windows, more annoying.

[latent mural]

Would it be a solid choice for me (coming from pretty good IPS panels, with decent colors, but nothing special, 1080p whole life) to tap into the $300 2k Mini-LED 180Hz monitors right now? Keep hearing talk about Micro LED possibly coming but can't imagine it being below $1,000 for at least years.

[warm ore]

Read a bit more about Mini-LED technology, if it has what you are looking for then why not.

[ashen spindle]

mini led is just ips with more light zones

[warm ore]

Would you jump resolutions and refresh too? you are only mentioning it in one or the other cases

[analog sinew]

not again

[unkempt lake]

Yesss

[analog sinew]

just aesa doe

[latent mural]

Not refresh but resolution yes. 1080p -> 2k, 180 same. I liked the much deeper blacks it seemed, and this specific panel is HVA. I am migrating more towards productivity over gaming and it seemed like a good pick for me. Was just seeing if there were personal opinions on them

Previous monitor had 0.5ms but it's that typical ghosting nastyness (new one would be at 1.0)

Do not give a damn about viewing angles tbh

[warm ore]

Then actually it can be considered, i haven't dug deep into Mini-LED, most enthusiast friends said it's disappointing, but you should do your research and see if it has benefits. The resolution upgrade alone is already a worthy cause imo.

[latent mural]

Thank you so much friend, the one review I did watch showcased how the blacks (to me too, and how it was shown on camera) looked so much better and that to me and the color ranges were amazing for editing like 97% average (just because I'm lazy won't type it all out) across sRGB, Adobe, and PCI. Thank you for the insight my friend

My whole life I've just kept my monitors exclusively for gaming so I'm just looking for something new, and I think it's time to switch to 2k :3

[warm ore]

Next time i'M upgrading i'm in a big pickle myself :D

[latent mural]

Yeah man as much as I'd like an OLED it's just not consumer perfect enough for me yet personally, price tag and whatnot I just don't personally see the value despite getting how top-of-the-line it is so. This was my conclusion haha

I do see them getting cheaper I'd just much prefer never having to worry about the burn-in stuff even if it gets the best it can be yk.

[warm ore]

I have somewhat similar concerns, so i'M undecided if it's gonna be just a much better IPS or actually OLED yet.
Many choices too even if that is decided and then narrowing down units, plus a bunch are gonna release between now and when i have the cash.

[latent mural]

Especially because I edit a lot with static stuff

Yeah, on top of the fact my import fees in SA are... 25% of the product haha

Figured I could drop the $300 but going for a $1k oled would net me $350 in import fees jaja

[warm ore]

When you have lower budget for it, i feel it's easier to settle with something.

[latent mural]

Indeed, and again thank you so much friend I appreciate you ^_^

[warm ore]

Leave a message here if you got a specific unit, maybe if you bought it, curious to see/hear

[latent mural]

Yes, I'm eyeing the KTC 27" @ 2k 180Hz (HVA, Mini-LED). I will keep you in thought no doubt and let you know what my review consensus is 🙂 Will be picking up in November.

[frozen drift]

I'm personally waiting for tandem OLED ultrawide 3440X1440 monitor now

[steady sail]

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27acdms/ i might gonna pick this up at Christmas

[warm ore]

[steady sail]

[astral haven]

GPU worked using the crostini flag but much worse perf than it should be

[rough basin]

help

[reef patrol]

#1019755933959733258 please. And provide more information.

[distant tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/seia-seseren-seiacry-blue-archive-buruaka-gif-5884865201354083662

[warm ore]

👀

[dull hollow]

720p 🥀

[warm ore]

540Hz more than enough at 2k

[unkempt lake]

i swear we're evolving backwards

360p upscaled games on 720p panels

[distant tapir]

Please let «2k» die

[rough osprey]

so the worse version of the lg?

[nimble arch]

XG27AQWMG waiting room

[zenith silo]

I thought this until I got one, granted I got a killer deal on mine

The price, although absurd is worth it imo

[latent mural]

Honestly I'll do the same once we move back to the USA. Ordering tech that price is... it would be cheaper for me to fly there get the OLED and fly back.

It's a progressive tempting thing, you keep seeing videos of them with void level blacks and it's chipping at my resilience. such pretty tech

[zenith silo]

The motion clarity is absurd

Like the difference between 240hz ips and 240hz oled in motion clarity was jaw dropping

[latent mural]

100% man, have heard this quite a bit too. Think I might go satisfy my desire through a stroll at the tech store soon 🤣

[zenith silo]

I got like 400cad off for a new open box at bestbuy

Still had warranty too

[latent mural]

That's awesome man

I fr see them dipping into 400-500 in the US all the time around holidays.

[zenith silo]

Black Fridays coming up soon👀

[latent mural]

I know bro, we get good sales down here too, very excited

[zenith silo]

Thinking of trying to grab a 9070xt if I can

[latent mural]

definitely go for it imo, not sure of the value of the 9070xt but I have the r9 5900xt and it still keeps me completely solid right now

I've always had intel but last year went AMD and... I was honestly very disappointed at how ignorant I was about AMD's cpus

[zenith silo]

Ive got a 6900xt rn but wanting to push 240hz on bf6 so deff need upgrade for that

[latent mural]

foshooo

[zenith silo]

Thankful my buddy built a pc before me so Ive been amd since my first build

[latent mural]

My first PC started out with my Dad teaching me how to build them back in like, 2013 or 2014. We started with a GTX 970 and i7 4790k and it was the start to 10 years of competitive gaming hell and now I'm trying to shift all my specs into productivity haha

128Gb @ 4000, refurbished AM4 Dark Hero (for my 2 M.2 @ PCIe 4.0), two 4 TB 990 Pros, 28 TB Enterprise HDD, 1 TB SATA SSD.. Already own all Affinity Suite, Davinci, and a PDF Reader hella excited

^ is what I'll be stacking up for future toying and experimenting

[dull hollow]

whatever you do, just dont put it next to an ips or else youd wish you wouldve gotten one sooner

[zenith silo]

My first build was 3600x w 2070s in 2020, before that I had a gaming laptop with a 6700hq 1060

[latent mural]

This plan only works because I'll be flying to the USA to pick up those parts

And then flying back home (Argentina)

[dull hollow]

i had a 3700x and a 2070s

[zenith silo]

That laptop somehow still works (only gets used for roblox now )

[latent mural]

RTX 4070 Super and that 5900XT suites all my editing/creative needs nowadays

But I believe I'm bottlenecked by a literal singular 1 TB 990 pro in my system right now LOL.

[zenith silo]

Im gonna end up on 9800x3d 9070xt

[latent mural]

YES YOU LIVING MY DREAMS RNNNN

[dull hollow]

thats me

[latent mural]

Good stuff bro

[zenith silo]

Unless 10k series comes out by the time im upgrading cpu

Then i may end up going with that

[dull hollow]

forza at a constant 299fps 1440p maxed RT

[zenith silo]

🔥

[steady sail]

imagine forza 6 at 1440p Maxed RT at 299 FPS

[dull hollow]

• sakura bloom season

[steady sail]

YES

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yah-gif-4058277963248900330

[dull hollow]

fh6 is gonna be a day 1 buy 🔥

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sweating-i-need-it-dry-water-gif-8038646

[steady sail]

thats gonna be a pre-order, not just a day one buy xD

[zenith silo]

Gamepass🔥 🔥

[torpid bridge]

yes I love when the game runs at 360p 60 fps but is scalled to 1080p 120fps like your playing more ai then game 😭

oh wait that message was a hour ago

[latent mural]

Actually if anyone is heavily knowledgeable about computer specs (parts and their purpose) I would like to discuss some things with you lowkeyyyy

I have base level knowledge, but I would like to know if what I'm doing has any merit fr

[ashen spindle]

ask a question dont ask to ask a question, makes it easier

[latent mural]

Yeah, sorry. It will be long.

[steady sail]

we love wall of texts here

[dull hollow]

@zenith silo photomode (you can also do late afternoon for a warmer-temp photo, or sunset for a cooler-temp photo)

[latent mural]

Bro I had to put my wall text on pause what the helly

[dull hollow]

oh shit

[latent mural]

That is beautiful

[dull hollow]

wrong channel

[steady sail]

[dull hollow]

rn i jsut play forza for photomode from time to time

tho forza still needs work on some textures (hopeful for fh6)

[latent mural]

I've been gaming for a long ass time, but I'm old and grand unc status atp and just want to monetize my art while working n stuff with gaming on the side now.

My specs are: RTX 4070 Super, R9 5900xt, 32 Gb ram @ 3200 (I think Cl16), Asus TG B550-Plus Wifi II MBU, 1000 Watt Gold PSU (this.. i'm not looking at the name again), and a literal singular 1 TB 990 Pro.

I was considering: 128 Gb ram @ 4000 (Cl18), Dark Hero VIII MBU, 28 TB Enterprise HDD (archive/backups, storing stuff I'll edit later), two 4 TB 990 Pros (active editing storage, moving from big HDD to this. from what I understood I could configure them in RAID 0..?), 1 TB SATA SSD (Solely for OS)

Reasons:
Moving from gaming --> productivity. With AI local stuff I'm tempted to experiment with that at some point, but the main reason I wanted to do this was for the turbo sized files I deal with (storage), and I also figured the ram would help my editing workflows (I currently only have 1080p, but do the Davinci Studio NVIDIA 4k upscaling, and hard vfx n whatnot). I also considered just outright using my massive storage to get a domain and maybe be my own cloud service for cheap. So pretty much just buying stuff to be able to do all kinds of whack stuff I can't right now. My storage also feels bottlenecked, when downloading extreme file sizes (three 15 Gb files at the same time) I believe the speed of my 990 isn't the problem

Question:
I am mainly an artist, specifically VFX (I do handle 4k footage, just... 1080p monitor right now xd) for the most part, just wondering if I'll see any improvement there. I wanted to go to max (128 Gb) because of these kind of "experimental" ideas I have realistically. In general, what can I expect? If I was dumb dumb ignorant, please educate me. ^_^ Is this a good idea?

^ to clarify. my own footage I record gameplay in 1080p --> 4k upscaling, but I do handle 4k footage sometimes from others.

It's just so hard to ask questions to ChatGPT, and not want to come to an actual person who has experiences with this stuff tbh

[steady sail]

tbh i would get a 32" ultra-wide or 32" 4K monitor for working

and i would put the money towards an AM5 upgrade instead of AM4

[ashen spindle]

I mean how much ram do you use atm

you can estimate better than anyone else how much ram you need

if you have enough then its enough, you dont have a benefit from having more unused ram

'for backups its probably best to have a NAS with storage so its not in the same system and survives more issues

[woeful yew]

what kind of motherboard should i get for gaming im getting a 9800x3d and a 5070ti idk whats better the B850 or X870

[steady sail]

B850 or B650

[ashen spindle]

whatever is the cheapest that has all the features you need

[woeful yew]

how come?

[latent mural]

Is being unable to do tasks with the PC while rendering video solely due to the GPU? This could change some stuff for me. The RAM albeit I can't tell you "I hit max," locking myself out of any tasks that I could experiment with like AI or making my own server did have me very interested in the future so I can say "I'll definitely use it at some point," instead of looking stupid because I haven't exactly recorded or logged that to a tea, but I have hit upwards of 80% full.

[ashen spindle]

well the other question is whats the budget because you could just go overkill on everything

[ashen spindle]

usually cheaper and unless you need something on an expensive board just get the cheapest one that has it all

[latent mural]

I'd rather not because AM5 overkill is still like way too high for me in all honesty. I'd like to complete this AM4 build for another reason, giving it to my wife and selling her RTX 3060 i5 12600k 32 Gb (when we're back in the USA) and then offloading what I sold it for to build a godzilla computer.

[woeful yew]

ight thank you i was wondering just what would preform better for gaming

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter performance doesnt change

[latent mural]

But I was trying to see if my head was in the right space (at all) for the part's actual intended purposes

[ashen spindle]

boards only change what IO you can have, usb ports, ssd slots etc.

[woeful yew]

ahh okay thank you

[latent mural]

Mainly because I would like to use my PC while rendering, and if that's adding another GPU I'm going to have another x16 for it. But going AM5 would still be like 2.5x this price for my specific situation rn

I just didn't see the point as my current performance in terms of base level is very good still

[ashen spindle]

gaming while rendering will always fuck up the performance so better to either have two systems or not do it at the same time

[latent mural]

No not gaming but just being able to do anything at all without dying inside

[ashen spindle]

any rendering will always use all the resources it gets unless you limit it

[tribal dirge]

depends on the application tbh, some use absolutely all the resources it can get, some only use what they need.

[ashen spindle]

so you can take your current system and limit the cpu cores or gpu power it can get, thats about it

[latent mural]

Adding another GPU specifically for Davinci would be a bad idea?

[tribal dirge]

paid or free version of resolve studio?

[latent mural]

Paid

[tribal dirge]

then it will use all GPUs available

[latent mural]

Bruh

[tribal dirge]

you can limit it however

[latent mural]

True

Thank you guys so much for being respectful btw

Albeit kind of a closed end discussion, you guys definitely provided me with (direct pointer) information I need to look more deeply into this topic and that's exactly what I wanted. So I appreciate your guy's time for that

[dull hollow]

@tribal dirge ipad case finally came in, finally time to daily it

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[tribal dirge]

epyc!

[harsh ether]

pc building goon fuel for you

[woeful yew]

what am i looking at

[harsh ether]

mobo assembly

🤔

[devout raptor]

finnish police uniform

[warm ore]

https://geizhals.eu/msi-mag-b850-tomahawk-max-wifi-7e62-002r-a3383450.html
https://geizhals.eu/msi-mpg-x870e-carbon-wifi-a3295180.html
These two are really good options right now

[jaunty ivy]

Don't get x870e

[rough osprey]

cant live without 4 usbc ports

[rustic salmon]

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/vjKXzP
is my build good? I plan to buy it next month

[lunar elm]

personally I’d get the 9700x over the 7800x3d

I’d get X3D if the build already has a 5070Ti and above

[ashen spindle]

What games do you mostly play and what’s the budget

[umbral heron]

Is good, you can replace AIO with air cooler and get 2x24GB

[warm ore]

These are the changes i would make: https://geizhals.eu/wishlists/4678058
Note that Mobo, Graphics Card, AIO and both storages are cheaper than PCpartpicker shows (in fact some other items are cheaper aswell, except for your Fan pack, that one is cheaper on Amazon FR), i recommend using Geizhals EU.
The total for the parts with the proper prices: 1654,91 EUR

[jaunty ivy]

Terrible

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/nqHTKq
@rustic salmon

[ashen spindle]

How are you people making builds when you don’t even know what resolution they play which game at..

[jaunty ivy]

The more you do it the more you dont need to know those things

Apart from the cpu/gpu combo there were so many more worse things

[warm ore]

They provided a template as to what they expect, all i did was upgrade some parts and provide a better price for what he was already going for. It didn't change his core idea.

Clearly you didn't look at it if you can't make that out.

[ashen spindle]

Yes you do, if he’s playing only valorant a 9800x3d would do more than a gpu upgrade and if it’s at 4K he can just get a 9600x instead..

If they ask if their build is good that doesn’t mean the build makes sense because they might now know it so why not just ask the basics first before recommending something that isn’t great for what they want to play

[jaunty ivy]

Still a pretty poor list

[warm ore]

Because i judged that the build actually does make sense, and i don't put together configs for single games.
And again, it's just a quick fix up, if he has more info to provide or anything to discusss/change, i'm open.

[jaunty ivy]

They asked if it was good. It wasn't good. I don't edit cpu and gpu unless a decent upgrade can fit in the budget regardless of resolution

[ashen spindle]

I mean I think just going zen5 over 4 for web browsing alone is worth it because even in gaming pcs people spend hours on chrome and that’s a decent upgrade there for example. Idk I think it makes little sense to make a recommendation before asking more about what they use it for

[jaunty ivy]

Never buy am4 new tbh. And if you can't afford am5 either, 12/14th gen Intel is the best option

12400f still goes hard if you're on a really tight budget

[ashen spindle]

Where did am4 come from

[jaunty ivy]

Zen 4 zen 5 am4 am5

Whatever it is

[wheat plume]

Such a cool case :D

https://youtu.be/H1gaY6kBpBk fits the Arc GPU nicely too

[vapid ruin]

smol

[wheat plume]

Wonder how good the GPU is? good for modern AAA?

[ashen spindle]

No

[wheat plume]

what nvidia card would it be closest to for performance?

[ashen spindle]

Why do you want a workstation card for gaming

[wheat plume]

oh this is workstation card?? oooh ok

oh thats why the gaming test starts when the video is nearly over...LOL

[ashen spindle]

It’s like below a 4060

[halcyon moss]

It's pretty decent at gaming, but the regular Intel cards are better at a similar price

[wheat plume]

ah, got it

[ashen spindle]

It’s not decent it’s more than double the price bc extra vram

[halcyon moss]

It's decent performance wise, but not decent price to performance wise

[ashen spindle]

70W is not giving decent AAA experience

[halcyon moss]

4060 is decent. Not great. Not super. Decent

[ashen spindle]

It’s worse than a 4060

This is not the big battlemage card this is the workstation version of the smaller one which is like above a 2070

sorry, its even worse I didnt know they cut down the card even more lmfao

yeah so in borderlands4 that would give you maybe 20 fps

[rough osprey]

so same as 5090

🤔

[wheat plume]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3H3XmXtac08

[vagrant pagoda]

unless you need sriov or the best Linux support, why get a pro Intel card?

[umbral heron]

2025 year of Linux Desktop
First ransomware which targets Ubuntu Desktop with GNOME https://www.trendmicro.com/en_us/research/25/i/lockbit-5-targets-windows-linux-esxi.html

[steady sail]

waow

[wheat plume]

ok ok ok I need to give Omarchy a try, didnt know it did all the shit in this video until now! https://youtu.be/Urq__zOwQqg

[lunar elm]

legend says it gets one ubuntu victim every 7 business centuries

[devout raptor]

so spotifys lossless isnt actually lossless?

[rough osprey]

hm?

[fair gull]

i assume it just streams the source files the artist/label uploads

so something like pink season would only exist as 320kbps mp3

[vapid ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH2723cSejE

[fair gull]

interesting. not what i expected

[rough osprey]

so it just doesnt have exclusive mode 😴

(they supposedly are working on it according to some reddit ama i think)

the android thing (that affects all streaming services) is funny tho

[thick elk]

Resampling errors are also the type of thing that is very measurable but not very noticeable if you don't completely botch it if at all.

[tribal dirge]

There are android apps that let you reroute the audio to skip the Androids Audio API

[gusty kiln]

UAPP helps bypass the android issue

[rough osprey]

ye they mentioned that in the video

for tidal atleast

[tribal dirge]

UAPP needs API access though, which Spotify does not allow

[gusty kiln]

but I'm sticking to hosting my own music on PLEX

[gusty kiln]

rip

[tribal dirge]

For lossless I just use Apple Music

[rough osprey]

ill stay with spotify

[tribal dirge]

Works perfectly on iPhone and my Mac

[gusty kiln]

self-host ftw

[rough osprey]

maybe i get lossless one day

[rough osprey]

do you buy the music 👀

[gusty kiln]

while my library is flac, the benefit is mostly to not have downtime and random songs missing

[tribal dirge]

You buy every album you listen to or what?

[gusty kiln]

some

[rough osprey]

lol

[tribal dirge]

Lulz

[gusty kiln]

I still have a youtube music sub through youtube prem

so I am technically still "paying"

[rough osprey]

yt music 😭

[gusty kiln]

I like YT prem

[rough osprey]

same

[vapid ruin]

yt music is all you need

[tribal dirge]

I just use an adblocker

[rough osprey]

i hate that app

[vapid ruin]

that's all I use for like 3-4 years lmao

[rough osprey]

Premium users do get higher quality audio on music videos now

[gusty kiln]

I mainly use it for find new music

then self host if I like it

[rough osprey]

yt is nice for that ye

[thick elk]

I also use a local library, as for buying, well I can tell you that I spend about a spotify subscription (indexed yearly with inflation) worth of music.

[rough osprey]

damn thats like 5 songs

[tribal dirge]

Less

[thick elk]

I had premium lite on youtube as I don't use any of it's features, but also don't want to freeload, however they killed the option and premium is pretty expensive for just keeping the platform alive and supporting creators.

[tribal dirge]

Probably more like 3

[rough osprey]

vpn

select the price you want

[gusty kiln]

shame plexamp doesn't support exclusive mode, but the desktop plex app does

[thick elk]

While that works, kind of defeats the point imo and they may not support my payment methods over vpn / disable it at some point.

[rough osprey]

my card has been working for a while

[thick elk]

my payment methods are basically IDeal and paypal

[rough osprey]

its like the service with the least protection against using vpn

[thick elk]

If they don't want me to pay I am fine just blocking ads without paying.

If I watch on my phone it doesn't even track as a view anyway.

[rough osprey]

i mostly watch on an apple tv soo

[thick elk]

No experience with that, for me youtube kind of a background thing with higher than 2x playback speed. So mostly desktop some phone.
Would not think of having it on a tv.

My phone setup right now is rss feed for subscriptions > tubular (newpipe fork with sponsorblock > mpv to actually watch.

[plush stirrup]

Nah they are worse now

India used to work now they need a card from there afaik, I managed to get romanian student to work but I couldn't find a residential romanian vpn to get it to work again

[rough osprey]

atleast they not cancelling it

[plush stirrup]

Yeah lucky I guess xD

[rough osprey]

turkey discord been working for 2 years lol

[plush stirrup]

Student needs to be renewed like yearly idk why my india one stopped working...

[rough osprey]

but discord pretty complicated

i think i used seperate google account on a cloned play store for that

[plush stirrup]

Yeah stuff like hbo max is also difficult to get in other countries

[rough osprey]

sooo truee

i wanna some stuff from there but the regional services with that content are 1080p only 😭

i aint paying for that

[plush stirrup]

I mean I managed it using a true residential vpn and google play store acc and creditcard I think (or paypal, not sure)

[plush stirrup]

I remember that time

Hbo used to be 1080p max here and it cost you 20eur/m

I'm not made of money xD

Netflix is already one of the most expensive here aswell

[rough osprey]

hbo max will supposedly come to germany (and some other european countries) at the beginning of 2026

as their deal with sky ends 2025

[steady sail]

me casually watching HBO max in Hungary

[rough osprey]

jealous...

[steady sail]

i think most streaming service is in Hungary

[plush stirrup]

Here it was with streams which has no interest in doing anything above 1080p 🤣

Netflix 4k is 19.99eur/m

[rough osprey]

the people working at those companies must not watch their own stuff

[steady sail]

[rough osprey]

thats like starting a music streaming service but only playing audio out of the one side of the headphones

[plush stirrup]

This used to include hbo stuff... 21.99eur/m (less if paid yearly, but like, the fuck)

Meanwhile prime is 25eur/y 🤣

[rough osprey]

we got some bundle deals too

but they are like always the not best option

like with ads and stuff

[plush stirrup]

Criminal to put ads in it xD

One day people will realise the less legal route saves them 100eur/m and has no ads

[fickle ore]

Cancelled prime bc Amazon chose to cancel Wheel of Time

[jovial ivy]

based

Spotify lossless was going to fail because the CEO doesn't actually care for the music

[gusty kiln]

also way safer than torrent

at least how it is right now

[lyric hatch]

With the family plan I end up paying about $3 a month for Spotify

[shadow minnow]

I mean with how little artists get from Spotify if paid at least some other services acc pay more to artists

[jovial ivy]

If you want to support the artist go on Qobuz or bandcamp

[gusty kiln]

my youtube premium also gives a bit more to channels than normal ad viewers

yeah qobuz is prob the best lossless service after apple

tidal slowly recovering its image

[jovial ivy]

Tidal and Qobuz are on par, but I only dislike Tidal for the owner

[gusty kiln]

MQA

[nimble arch]

Apple One is included in my cellular package. It also works out better value for money than the cheaper unlimited package with no extras and then buying Apple One separately.

Been on Apple Music since 2017

[lyric hatch]

I usually just buy their vinyl if it's one my fav artists even though I still don't have a vinyl player

[rough osprey]

music streaming is just not a good business tbh

[jovial ivy]

I do the same, you don't need a turntable to collect stuff

[nimble arch]

I’ve got a small vinyl collection

[steady sail]

me with the From Zero vinyl

[nimble arch]

But I’m largely just a streaming individual

[lyric hatch]

Yeah I think I'm also a pretty hard person to buy for but vinyl makes a good gift

[jovial ivy]

This is my small collection, I need to work on it more. I'm waiting on two atm

[rough osprey]

i wonder how long tidal will survive

[gusty kiln]

would be cool to get all of nujabes's vinyls

[steady sail]

best vinyl disk

[jovial ivy]

Is that a picture disc

[steady sail]

yeah im lazy to take pic about it xd

[gusty kiln]

every Youtuber with the R.A.M. Vinyl

[gusty kiln]

osrs soundtrack is so goated

[jovial ivy]

Picture discs are cool, just don't sound epic more of a collector thing than a playing thing

[wheat plume]

FROM ZERO SPOTTED 😍

[gusty kiln]

The Forlorn Homestead and Baroque are probably my fav osrs music

[steady sail]

i never played OSRS soo idk

[lyric hatch]

How about this one

[jovial ivy]

I have that one, it's alright

[leaden kiln]

Tower records was such a fun store, I didn’t get any vinyl but I kind of wanted to, just got a bunch of cds

Don’t have a vinyl player and I didn’t have a cd player before getting cds

[gusty kiln]

they should release CDs in steel cases like video games collector editions

[steady sail]

tbh im not a big fan of mc music either lol

[jovial ivy]

The one in Japan?

[leaden kiln]

Yeah

[jovial ivy]

Cool, my boyfriend went there

[leaden kiln]

I was tempted to get a vinyl but I didn’t end up doing it

I hit up at least 3 different tower records

[jovial ivy]

https://www.discogs.com/release/32020250-Kuricorder-Pops-Orchestra-Masaki-Kurihara-TV-Animation-Azumanga-Daioh-OST
https://www.discogs.com/release/12836728-Masayoshi-Takanaka-The-Rainbow-Goblins He brought me these back from Japan which was nice of him

[leaden kiln]

I didn’t have any cds before going but now I have these

And three copies of the middle one in the bottom row

[leaden kiln]

azudai ost would be nice

Don’t remember seeing it but my friend would’ve been all over that

[jovial ivy]

I ripped it the other day onto my PC, it's quite nice.

[thick elk]

Only ever bought one cd and found it really doesn't do it for me so that is it.

(technically got a second)

[zenith silo]

Stal on record 🔥

[tribal dirge]

nice, high key might get apple care one

you can cover any 3 devices for 20 bucks per month, compared to normal pricing for an individual product its very much worth it.

[nimble arch]

They don’t yet offer that in the UK

[ashen spindle]

idk I just do the trick of live in the EU so I'm covered by consumer protection without paying for it

[marsh glade]

*directly

[ashen spindle]

well yes but I mean I'm not paying taxes for it and then apple care on top

[tribal dirge]

only one extra year really.

here we only get one year

EU you get two years

which is nice I guess

[ashen spindle]

well thats warranty, afterwards can still get repairs

[nimble arch]

AppleCare One is also loss and theft protection

It’s device insurance effectively

[ashen spindle]

I have normal insurance for that which also covers that

[nimble arch]

Plus covers devices that never previously qualified for loss and theft

[tribal dirge]

my property insurance doesn't cover my phone 😔

albeit it does cover things that cost significantly more than a phone LMAO

[marsh glade]

Inboedelverzekering ftw

[steady sail]

https://youtu.be/bn-bbk_p3Do?si=HodEaWNCe0F6Ur16

chat should i do this

[shadow minnow]

I think the main advantage is accidental damage “coverage”
Well not full coverage but very heavy discounts
Tjat said idk if its worth it

[unkempt lake]

@shadow minnow i had to get my battery replaced under warranty, i had applecare plus for 2 years cuz of a promotion with the carrier, instead of having me drive 4 hours or mail my phone in, they did an advanced rma where they shipped me a new unit and i sent them back my old one after

Being able to do that makes me want to get it next time even if its not free through a promotion through my carrier

Then again i get that most of you probably live within range of an apple store or some shiy

[magic minnow]

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[empty wren]

https://share.google/2eTyAKVkTwKH4O3ww

Pretty gay

[harsh ether]

what is this garbage

[static raptor]

recently my electricity bill has shot up like crazy. I live with my girlfriend in a pretty modest apartment, but I do have my gaming PC . Now the utility company suddenly wants €175 per month from me that’s €2,100 per year just for electricity. That’s insane! Do someone have any idea what could be causing this? It almost feels like someone is mining Bitcoin on my PC at night or something. 😂

[empty wren]

Nah bruh

They are greedy and support low rates for data centers

[static raptor]

No way a 5080 and a Ryzen 79800X3D with a 480Hz OLED main monitor and a 240Hz secondary monitor, both at 1440p, would use that much power per month even if I gamed 10 hours a day

i dont even have like that many lights or some

[rough patrol]

I mean maybe the price per watt hour went up a lot

You can probably see the usage on your bill and compare to previous months

[static raptor]

Yeah, I need to check that. I’ve already checked my current meter reading. I’m switching to a cheaper provider now this just can’t be right.

175 euro per month is just insane

[empty wren]

@harsh ether
https://search.app/iYQCy

[empty wren]

Just read the news

For wherever you live

[static raptor]

germany

[empty wren]

Oo Germany does have worse than rates than US

My condolences

[static raptor]

everything is just worse here ngl

[empty wren]

Your food is likely higher quality

[rough patrol]

Electricity costs have been cooked in germany ever since the cheap russian gas stopped flowing

[empty wren]

That definitely does not help

[rough patrol]

But that doesnt explain such a sudden change

[empty wren]

Here in the US in my state

They are building a data center

[rough patrol]

Ask your electricity provider to show how much you used and see if it looks unrealistic

[empty wren]

Unless they are building a data center in the same city as Moqil I have no idea

[empty wren]

Could also later consider a smart plug

Those can measure power consumption

[static raptor]

38,13 Ct./kWh I don’t know if this means anything to you, but this is what my provider shows

[empty wren]

I can ask my German buddy also tomorrow

But that sounds close to the same rates he told me

[rough osprey]

that seem way to high lol

like the monthly thing

i got pretty much same setup and im well below 100 a month xd

unless you like using it 24/7 in a game

[static raptor]

I was paying like €120 about two months ago with two people, and we have a washing machine, dryer, dishwasher everything in the apartment but suddenly it’s so much more. I’ll call them later to ask about it, that’s just crazy.

[empty wren]

Your refrigerator probably consumes the most followed by the PC

[rough osprey]

dont you have access to your electricity meter

in your basement or sum

[static raptor]

not really i play alot but i play like 6 hours max a day and thats like way more then it really is maybe 4 but the pc is on alote for youtube and other stuff

[static raptor]

i have

[rough patrol]

Did you accidentally leave your fridge or freezer door open half the month

[rough osprey]

maybe look at what you use in 24h there

or a week

by just checking in that interval

[static raptor]

i took a picture yesterday i will watch that stuff now

[rough osprey]

and ye a lil electricty meter for the wall might help to know what is consuming that much

[static raptor]

I also bought a new one two months ago it really shouldn’t be using that much power.

[rough osprey]

the setup will probably use like 500w-600w when gaming

[empty wren]

I doubt any of your stuff really is, German buddy told me he charges me power when he made my parts cuz of the high electrical rates

[static raptor]

when i put all my info in chatgpt it says i pay like 80 euro or some for my pc alone and + all my other stuff i need like the fridege it says 175 euro sounds right

[empty wren]

If you really want to could make your PC go to sleep within 3 minutes of non use of whatever

[rough osprey]

i mean idle doesnt really use anything

[empty wren]

Well gpus be hungry these days

[rough osprey]

is your fridge old or sum

or maybe set to a too cold temperature

[static raptor]

brand new not even 2 month old

[static raptor]

Maybe I can set it warmer I recently also felt like it’s really, really cold

[rough patrol]

So you‘re telling me

You changed your fridge

[rough osprey]

there are like cheap thermometers

[rough patrol]

And now your power bill went up

[empty wren]

I know this is rare but still gonna ask, do you have air conditioning?

[rough patrol]

[rough osprey]

and you find the recommended temperatures online

[static raptor]

nope

[empty wren]

Okay nevermind that could consume a lot of power

[static raptor]

my bill went up so much even when the fridge would be open that could be not it like common

[rough osprey]

thats only for billionaires in germany

[static raptor]

but maybe its a little bit of all ngl

[empty wren]

Portable ones exist

But apparently not allowed in every area

[static raptor]

its like asking if i have my own airplain haha

[rough osprey]

lol

[empty wren]

Oh well

[rough osprey]

tvs can also use a not so small amount

if you watching hdr content all day

[static raptor]

not at all im mostly on my pc

[empty wren]

Guess that would make sense if not running in eco

[rough osprey]

time to switch to phone gaming

[static raptor]

but my monitor is allways runnig at 480hz and its oled i turned down brightness already

[rough osprey]

i got the same

[static raptor]

i made my sec monitor runn on 120hz now not 240hz

[rough osprey]

monitor aint doing that much

compared to pc

[static raptor]

I thought the 5080 was so energy-efficient lol.

[rough osprey]

per fps yes

but you tend to use higher settings then and all

or run high frame rate

so its back at 300w+

[static raptor]

I have my PC professionally tweaked, and we set everything for performance, every core adjusted. I’ve already talked to my colleague about it, and he also says it shouldn’t be using that much power.

[empty wren]

You can try to underclock the cpu

If you have not but that is usually done for less noise and heat

[static raptor]

I’d prefer not to change anything t’s super quiet and runs perfectly, better than I could have wished for

[empty wren]

Fair enough

[rough osprey]

Id get a electricy meter for the wall first to get some values first and then act upon that

and a cheap thermometer for the fridge to "optimize" that

[static raptor]

i got it tweaked by Fr33thy and its running soo good he explaind a lot to me when we did it with a nice power plan a windwos debloat we set every single coore to a value testetd it all took us hours would be nice when i can just let the pc be like it is now

[static raptor]

yup gonna do that now

i have one somehwere

i’m also going to talk to my provider today, give them the current readings to check if everything is correct let’s see what they say.

[rough osprey]

do that

[static raptor]

i got the tipp iI got the tip that I should download HWiNFO to see how much power my PC is drawing.

[rough osprey]

gives u an idea but real usage will be higher

[static raptor]

i hate downloading stuff so much haha

[rough osprey]

depending on what you play you could also like limit framerate and stuff

[static raptor]

mostly competetiv fps games

but i want to run it high as possible

[rough osprey]

just gotta try how it feels

them 1000fps in val aint ranking you up

[static raptor]

i cap most my games in the game files to 480 fps already besides cs2 thats running at 800

[rough patrol]

But the 35g springs with 0.1mm actuation will get me out of bronze

[static raptor]

maybe true

[empty wren]

That sounds as useless at the games that run menus at 1000fps

[rough osprey]

ye but depends on the game and stuff

like ow feels much better for me on unlimited vs capped to 480

so idk

[rough osprey]

ts pmo

american game studios do not care man

[rough patrol]

I love my games running on unreal engine (the game now looks 2% more realistic and runs at 2% of the frame rate)

[empty wren]

I really hate that dead by daylight

Uses so much resources

The game does not even look that amazing but thanks unreal engine 5

[ashen spindle]

Thats not an unreal issue the game is very average on how hard it it’s to run

Valorant runs on UE5 too and people get >500fps it’s almost never an engine issue

[umbral heron]

Valorant uses none of the fancy new rendering tech, they just migrated UE4 with classic stuffs to UE5
If they've added the whole smorgasbord of new rendering tech and ray-tracing and what not which every UE5 basically forces nowadays it'd run at like 50 fps instead

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but that’s not an engine issue where people just throw everything at it without making it run properly

I could do the same in unity just with more work but it’s not as simple so you aren’t seeing people complain about unity performance, unreal just gives you the tool and asks the user to be responsible

Which many aren’t , looking at you gearbox

[umbral heron]

Yeah... asks user to be responsible and on the other hand it has approach of "look at these cool new tools, use them >.<" and "these are just there because of backwards compatibility, we'd get rid rid of them if we could" towards old rendering pipeline

[ashen spindle]

Well yeah the original plan for lumen was HW not SW raytracing because that’s what devs wanted but it was too hardware taxing

Just like idtech got rid of the non RT pipeline

[rough osprey]

we should do pathtracing on the cpu

[ashen spindle]

Unreal and co won’t fully get rid of them because they get used for any sort of thing like 2d games and all where it’s easier to use the old path but that’s not something epic is trying to force or even is the first to do

[rough osprey]

how u named epic games but your games aint epic

[ashen spindle]

There’s a world where the consoles have better RT and we get HW lumen plus raster fallback and all of this isn’t an issue

[umbral heron]

There's a world where average turnover rate in gaming industry is more than 1.5 years on average
and experienced people who actually worked on the game and know it better than anyone work on it till it releases
and not get fired after a year or two because company doesn't want to pay benefits or give them an actual contract
and where game releases are not rushed just to meet the end of closest quarter, so that company looks more appealing to investors
and where game companies are being lead by engineers and not finance guys who know absolutely nothing about development processes...

[rough osprey]

no there isnt

[ashen spindle]

I mean it’s all a trade off, if you always wait till a better version you don’t end up releasing every game because suddenly you ran out of salary money etc.

[umbral heron]

Or because investors are greedy crybabies and they want their dividends now

[rough osprey]

stuff is always pretty complicated

[ashen spindle]

Sure but without investors many big projects don’t have the money to even start

[rough osprey]

thing's arent the way they are because people are evil

[ashen spindle]

It’s very simple to see non technical stuff as the bad part because it often is but often it’s also necessary

Can’t make big games the same way like an indie game with two devs that are fine not getting paid for years

[umbral heron]

Sure
Would also be way easier if executives were getting million dollar bonuses for doing fuck all while canceling projects and firing people left and right, while the "lack" of money can be easily explained that they tried to bite too much and spent too much to buy other game companies
RIGHT MICROSOFT?!

Will never forgive them motherfuckers for canceling Perfect Dark reboot

I swear if there's any evil in the world it can be tied to Microsoft in one way or the other

[ashen spindle]

yeah but for one person that pockets too much and closes one company theres another that only is alive because someone made sure they dont forget having salaries to stay open

just easier to see the bad when you never hear stories of the other because its really boring hearing someone talk how they did a normal financing for a company lel

[umbral heron]

Yeah
Let's just get rid of those who pocket too much

And Microsoft while we are at it

[rough osprey]

nooo

[outer spire]

Microsoft bad

[lunar elm]

corps bad

[halcyon moss]

crap, the earpad of my beyerdynamic mmx200 is splitting

lets see what their warranty service does

[rough osprey]

https://fccid.io/BCG-E8726A/Schematics/A3212-A3408-A3409-A3410-System-Electrical-Schematics-V1-0-8024509

lol

[halcyon moss]

https://youtube.com/shorts/aVwBillEdMU?si=bWDetemYniDPdzC8

Lol

[harsh ether]

[vagrant pagoda]

epic has good compensation though, just hard hours which is a industry issue

and Tencent is epics only investor

[umbral heron]

Ah yes, crunch culture, because kids need more Fortnite skins
Imagine working after hours

[vagrant pagoda]

its private with Tim having full control still

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean no one works more hours at epic than Sweeny, so its lead by example

[umbral heron]

Still
No kind of money would make me work 50~60h weeks for a prolonged amount of time

[vagrant pagoda]

the most successful game ever sure isn't epic XD

[rough osprey]

they made minecraft?

[umbral heron]

They made Jazz Jackrabbit

[vagrant pagoda]

fortnite has made way, way more money than Minecraft

[umbral heron]

Surprisingly has less CC players than CS and Dota

[vagrant pagoda]

in 2012 epic was worth under a billion, now they are over 30 billion

thats only Fortnite

[umbral heron]

Sweet sweet UE money also counts

[vagrant pagoda]

? Fortnite peaked at 14 million players last year

[vagrant pagoda]

barely

[umbral heron]

14 million concurrent players? Or daily? Because that's like a huge difference
And I doubt that Epic's infrastructure could even hold 14M players at once

[rough osprey]

not so sure if its really the most successful one financially

[vagrant pagoda]

csgo had a peak of 1.480, Fortnite 1.600 in last 24

[rough osprey]

there seem to be other 20billion + ones too

and they all kinda estimating

[vagrant pagoda]

yep in November for am event

14 million players online at once

[umbral heron]

Currently it has 600k
Dota has 700k, CS over a million

[rough osprey]

nothing compared to roblox lol

[umbral heron]

Yeah, Roblox takes a cake

[vagrant pagoda]

not peak hours for fn school in US

look at 24 hour peak

[rough osprey]

damn dota growing

while u hear nothing from it

guess im in the wrong market

[vagrant pagoda]

bUT yeah Tencent got Hella deal

10 years 1000% increase

[devout raptor]

blox fruits peak player count was 2.7 million

what the fuck

why is pure slop so popular

[reef patrol]

Does it give marketplace items?

[crimson wigeon]

Because their brains are so rotted it's all they think exists

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/prG9xFkvlNg

OK I LOVE THE THEME SHE MADE 😍

(EndeavourOS with Plasma Desktop BTW)

SO GOOD

[rough osprey]

i got lossless :o

[rough osprey]

https://fixupx.com/zoneoftech/status/1972700564602364364?s=46

Daniel (@ZONEofTECH)

Update:
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︀︀- I was denied boarding due to this (been travelling for ~47h straight so this is really nice 🙃). Need to pay for a hotel for the night now and get back home tomorrow👌
︀︀
︀︀- was sent to the hospital, as an emergency
︀︀
︀︀- ring got removed
︀︀
︀︀You can see the battery all swollen.
︀︀
︀︀Won’t be wearing a smart ring ever again.
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︀︀@SamsungUK @SamsungMobile @SamsungMobileUS

Quoting Daniel (@ZONEofTECH)
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Ahhh…this is…not good.
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︀︀My Samsung Galaxy Ring’s battery started swelling. While it’s on my finger 😬. And while I’m about to board a flight 😬
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FixupX · Sep 29, 2025, 4:30 PM

scary

[reef patrol]

Yes I too enjoy wearing something that could blow off my finger. Why the fuck isn't the battery on the OUTSIDE 😄

[pale sigil]

I don't think it can be

[umbral heron]

Why tf people even use smart rings?

[pale sigil]

If you look at the ring it's essentially in the middle.

So it can swell either way

[pale sigil]

Less annoying than watches that last less than a day

[umbral heron]

Does it even show time?

[tepid lynx]

i think they’re for health tracking

[unkempt lake]

People get degloving injuries from wearing regular rings

Might as well add a battery for an even more gruesome injury

😍

[astral haven]

Nah, the metal is on the outside, it can't expand that way

[pale sigil]

Ah

[astral haven]

There's gotta be sensors facing inwards so there's really nothing to be done with current tech

[halcyon moss]

My oura ring is metal on the inside as well.

I got it for health tracking as I do not like watches.

And it lasts about a week

[astral haven]

Except for the holes in the metal
If the battery expands, it also will expand in the direction of the thinner metal
All the teardowns I've seen show thick metal in a n shape...

[rough osprey]

just use non expanding batteries

[astral haven]

Not possible

[astral haven]

Ok actually scratch this, the new gen 4 ring seems to have a stronger bottom, and weak sides such that the sides are what pops off when it breaks
Very good!

[thick elk]

Definitely a design oversight and serious safety risk. Definitely something that should be prevented as swelling batteries do happen.

[rough osprey]

imagine the battery self ignites somehow and you cant remove the ring 😭

[tepid lynx]

oura headband when

[thick elk]

Battery is tiny, it constricting and cutting blood flow to your finger is the bigger issue. I would be more worried about a phone, laptop or powerbank catching fire and burning your house down.

[red trout]

I was updating Wooting 60he to the latest version and suddenly my computer restarted and my Wooting turned off like it was dead. I removed it and plugged it back in. Wooting still didn't connect. How to fix this guys help me

[lyric hatch]

(but select 60he)

[empty wren]

Aw come on mansen this is more portable of an IED than the note 7 and one can have 16 of them at a time

[red trout]

Bro you saved me man tysm

[thick elk]

If something lile that happens again of you have some other questions, we have a wole community support section.

[vestal dirge]

is this normal on a wooting 60he?

[old marlin]

it sits inside a metal tube

so it will only swell inside

if you want it to be able to swell outside you would need to weaken the outside, which would mean that it would break quite quickly

[reef patrol]

Yes - Because such tests are useless and show nothing.

[ashen spindle]

yes because the site cant test the spec it can only test how fast you press the button

[reef patrol]

And how long it takes for your finger to let go 😄

[vestal dirge]

whats a good way to test latency?

[ashen spindle]

you need physical tools to test it

[analog sinew]

play game and see if its good

[ashen spindle]

you cant test it on a website

[vestal dirge]

i only play osu

[analog sinew]

then play osu

which is a game

[pastel galleon]

gd with cbf also works, you can see how consistent keystrokes feel to you

[vapid ruin]

New yt shorts UI suck for 1 hand use

Like 2x smaller and hurt my thumb trying to reach the comments

[ashen spindle]

omg thats it, laws need to be made to make tiktok and shorts UI bad and people stop getting brainrotted

[rough osprey]

google giggles >>

[vapid ruin]

Nah, I think this just makes people scroll more rather than reading

[leaden kiln]

They should make it easier to find the description
In the rare event I do open a short I almost always look in the description

[harsh ether]

eheheh

[harsh ether]

i did end up doing it earlier tho

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-handshake-deal-agree-gif-7134721403924803840

KDE, good choice

[harsh ether]

unfortunately i got a faulty monitor so i gotta return it and get a new one

but yeah after that ill be back to it :D

[nimble arch]

Real men use a tiling window manager

First morning commute with the AirPods Pro 3. The better ANC is instantly noticeable on the train.

Soon™ to test it on the London underground.

[analog sinew]

sadly no AKC (active knife cancelling)

[umbral heron]

Mlem
I always forget that CPU at my work computer is so slow and I shouldn't compile from AUR

Ah, 2 normal cores and 8 fake ones, gotcha
No matter what Intel be Intel, pushing dual and quad cores

[halcyon moss]

almost a lana post

[nimble arch]

That is not a problem for me

The ANC works incredibly well on the underground. I barely heard anything outside of my headphones.

Life is bliss.

[digital cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[halcyon moss]

ah its time for the weekly new (youtube/discord/...) ui update sucks

[reef patrol]

Sure - I'll rant as well. Shorts move too slowly between videos now on Desktop. Used to start very snappy and "memory leak" slower and slower over time.

Now it starts at really fucking sluggish and feels downright broken.

[fair gull]

smh not talking about new steam store ui

[reef patrol]

There isn't one?

[fair gull]

there is though

since like a week

[reef patrol]

Mine looks the same as it has for ages.

[fair gull]

old

new

[reef patrol]

Corporate wants you to ...

I've seen both in the past couple of months. So... same?

[fair gull]

if you cant see whats different between the 2 then id recommend glasses

[reef patrol]

Just depends on what page you're on

[fair gull]

this is on every store page

[reef patrol]

Must be some AB thing. I've seen both.

[umbral heron]

They've announced last week on Steam News that it's going out for everyone

[fair gull]

yeah i was certain they are done testing and it was supposed to be "everyone now has to use this one" kinda thing

(just so i dont miscommunicate this but I do like the new steam store UI but expect some people to hate it as the internet always does)

[umbral heron]

I love the new search

Valve should make search engine given how well it works

[fair gull]

i like the new clean look in general

no sidebar with clutter

[umbral heron]

That too
But the search function has improved significantly too

[fair gull]

cant say i search a lot of games on steam

[vagrant pagoda]

search is easy when there isn't seo and ai slop

[austere otter]

Does anyone know why my game micro-stutters when I enable Tachyon Mode, even though my FPS remains stable at 300+? I've already tried switching the USB cable and resetting Wootility (connected to a USB 3.2 port)

[lofty pivot]

Seems about right. Double the price of the tamron basically @umbral heron

[nimble arch]

Cals going to pay up anyway

[nimble arch]

https://www.engadget.com/computing/accessories/the-logitech-mx-master-4-is-here-with-haptic-feedback-less-rubber-and-the-same-shape-070129314.html

[umbral heron]

Think I'll go with Tamron's 90 and some nice bright Sigma 50

[unkempt lake]

So... nothing changed?

Besides software gimmicks idgaf about

https://youtu.be/gfqGqj2bFj8?si=hNEYU5QPIHAjfYvm

WEEE

[vapid ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-L63_cGyxY

flat2vr before flat2vr

[reef patrol]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/09/taiwan-pressured-to-move-50-of-chip-production-to-us-or-lose-protection/

[vapid ruin]

but if Taiwan move chip production to the US, the US doesn't need to protect Taiwan much

[reef patrol]

Imagine taking a security promise from Trump serious.

[marsh glade]

"Move your production so that we don't need to defend you, to ensure that we defend you"

Dumb as rocks

[vapid ruin]

Just invest in intel more

😭

Lit just use the military budget to build Intel fabs just for military use

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter becuase thats still behind of when its ready in taiwan and the earliest they could achieve parity with bleading edge would be after next election cycle

so they promise what trump wants without actually losing out much

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/bmoN6D1roXM?si=7-0OkHa-U2wDU8aw

🔥

[analog sinew]

literal extortion

[astral haven]

Don't forget the racketeering

[crimson wigeon]

What a wild timeline we're in

[analog sinew]

it's crazy i can't see how this world is not fucked

[unkempt lake]

@analog sinew @distant tapir

[analog sinew]

i posted the message directly under it 😢 I saw

what am i gonna do, rip my pc apart

either it continues to work or blows up one day

[ashen spindle]

why even ping when the video just says they are still looking for it

changes absolutely nothing for anyone who has a board

[nimble arch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1nuk2ph/windows_11_2025_update_25h2_build_26200_megathread/

[fickle ore]

sick whats this crazy gains

@ashen spindle rip aymd

[ashen spindle]

?

[fickle ore]

oracle chose intel xD

[ashen spindle]

do you realize how many instinct gpus oracle is buying

[fickle ore]

yea but cpu side

[ashen spindle]

oracles buys everything because they provide solutions

futures instinct racks come with amd cpus included so they buy them as well

Oracle will offer zettascale AI clusters accelerated by the latest AMD Instinct processors with up to 131,072 MI355X GPUs

replace that with a future buildout of mi400 and each of them has zen6 attached to it

[fickle ore]

Not bad

[gusty kiln]

What's significant about this update?

[rough osprey]

higher number

[pale sigil]

It clicked the other day that my roller blinds are white....

It works so well oml

The only problem is kitties

[nimble arch]

They do that with TVs as well

[steady sail]

i dont see any problem, interactive movie with cats

[reef patrol]

One of mine loves to lie right in front of the TV.

[wheat plume]

How TF do I change the volume step percentage in Android?????
6% is way too fucking much

I either explode my eardrums or the music is too quite
No in-between

[astral haven]

Sound assistant

[wheat plume]

That's only Samsung

[rough osprey]

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/30/fcc-apple-vision-pro/

[astral haven]

Yep but if you want to change volume step in unrooted android, that's your option

[rough osprey]

what is going on at the FCC

[wheat plume]

I'm not going to switch phone just to get this feature :'(

OneUI is really ugly and clunky also

[astral haven]

Skill issue

[astral haven]

What do you think, look at who's in charge now

[rough osprey]

[wheat plume]

Wtf...
Who made this eq preset
Holy treble lol

[lyric hatch]

Most customization options continue to be on OneUI

Stock android hates options

[wheat plume]

It really does
NothingOS has more options than stock but doesn't change the UI design

(Except the home and lock screen)

It sort of changes the settings

[gusty kiln]

Once samsung adds call screening, I don't see a reason to get a pixel anymore

Dex is the best desktop mode

[silver pewter]

I’m thinking about getting the keychron q1 he qmk is it good for its price

[lyric hatch]

Like this?

[gusty kiln]

ooo, next os update?

oh wait have I been using it this whole time?

not sure if it is on the same level as pixel's call screening

[lyric hatch]

Not sure, I know the Google call app also has the feature

I don't actually use it I never get SPAM calls

[harsh ether]

dont google pixel phones auto ai each photo

😭

[empty wren]

That seems like a poor assessment

What used to be is for original photo quality Google would scan photos

[empty wren]

There are ai enabled features

Magic eraser ect

[lyric hatch]

I need that telephoto

[rough osprey]

not sure if you would want a macro for birds xd

[lyric hatch]

Yeah I need the opposite of a macro

[reef patrol]

inb4 microlens

[rough osprey]

fish eye

[umbral heron]

https://www.techspot.com/news/109626-ai-bubble-only-thing-keeping-us-economy-together.html

[ashen spindle]

That image doesn’t work with that headline

All tech spending isn’t for AI

There’s ton of non ai bubble money in tech

[alpine patio]

i think what they meant is

the excluding and total was closely related before

and now theres a big difference (probably because of ai)

which lowkey is still convoluted asf

[rough osprey]

nvidia just invented ai to sell more gpus

[ashen spindle]

I be don’t think that makes sense because based on that graph there would be almost 0 difference in it until q4 of 2024 and they already had big spendings to ai in that quarter

Not to mention tech is probably one of the biggest contributors to gdp anyway so it seems odd that before it barely was related?

Also that would imply if they weren’t building ai things that just wouldn’t spend the money at all which I have my doubts on

[umbral heron]

Say corpo 1 pays $5M to corpo 2, corpo 2 pays $5M to corpo 3, corpo 3 pays $5M to corpo 1
Nothing of value has been passed down to consumers, but GDP has increased by $15M
Big tech corpos can just pass around money to inflate GDP, AI bubble really helps with that

[marsh glade]

You know what else is a great way of increasing GDP? Restricting imports

Economy is objectively worse, but hey at least your total exports minus total imports went up!

[umbral heron]

Wasn't that the case recently that Nvidia invested in OpenAI, OpenAI invested in Oracle, Oracle is buying AI hardware from Nvidia?
So no money changed hands really, but Oracle stock soared

Here I always thought money is a representation of work, and here money is being made out of thin air

[nimble arch]

Look at this loser who can’t work money out of thin air

[halcyon moss]

stocks never were that. stocks were always fictitious

[lofty pivot]

Honestly if I didn’t already have tamron I’d be tempted too

[fluid mist]

i have a question on wooting team

[analog sinew]

i have a question for god: Why?

[fluid mist]

so i had a broken keyboard and i got new pcba i reinstalled everything and texted uback because of the retouring ticket but i never got the answer, so i wrote again and the same problem happened again, the case is fully normal cuz i packed it immediately back but i just cant get the answer from woooting

[ashen spindle]

make a thread in #1019755933959733258

[fluid mist]

ok thx

[reef patrol]

What's the order number?

[fluid mist]

let me check one moment

EU352688H

[simple dirge]

Currently I own the Wooting Two HE full size. Since it came out is there now like a definitive upgrade that I can buy, like maybe replace switches or smth I dunno

[reef patrol]

I'll check up on it and see if I can't get someone to look into it for you.

[fluid mist]

thanks, maybe i even get the info but i didnt really saw it due a lot of mails last time

[analog sinew]

switches are for sound and feel only. The 80he/60v2 are technically an upgrade cause 8k polling but realistically it makes no difference

[simple dirge]

I would really like a quiet yet tactile switch

[analog sinew]

tactile isnt rly a thing in HE

cause adjustable actuation is a key feature

[halcyon moss]

https://electrek.co/2025/09/30/u-s-army-confirms-tesla-cybertruck-cant-be-imported-in-europe/

[magic minnow]

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/oneplus-15s-new-sand-storm-edition-is-claimed-to-be-tougher-than-titanium/

[umbral heron]

Oh no, not wankpanzer

[lunar elm]

After people test: This little claim is gonna cost us 51 years to recover

[reef patrol]

Shit - We're already on a model 15? I still have a 9.

[magic minnow]

They skipped 14 cause it sounds like death or something and superstition

[reef patrol]

That's still 5 models ahead of mine. 😄

[umbral heron]

Should skip to 17 to match Apple

[pale sigil]

Welp

[plush stirrup]

I read about that today, since yesterday they block the UK xD

[reef patrol]

Nothing of value lost.

They recently replaced almost all staff (what little there were) with AI.

I gave up on restoring my account there after months of trying. It was tied to Twitter, and I deleted my account there.

[plush stirrup]

Could be annoying if someone sends you an imgur link with an image though, I think those are also blocked

[pale sigil]

I have many many years of albums

Time to request my data lol

[plush stirrup]

Good luck xD

[latent comet]

Soon 1y than nvidia have put rtx 5000 on the market, but we don't have reflex 2 feature

[unkempt lake]

Hot take but who gives a shit if they replaced staff with ai it's a fucking image hosting website

[unkempt lake]

• it's still widely used by people on reddit and other platforms

[ashen spindle]

because ai isnt known for doing a good job of scanning your images if they are fine or making good jobs if you need support because you got banned etc.

[minor zealot]

Anyone got experience with HyperX Cloud III S wireless?

[unkempt lake]

Most people view images and never upload

I never made a damn imgur account

[ashen spindle]

day 5430328 of dashi not understanding if people use something in a different way it might matter to them

[reef patrol]

Because it needs a lot of support.

[fickle ore]

congrats, you invented how money works

you're just late a few thousand years

Money always needs to pass around, its not meant to be kept or saved

If corpos took money and didnt invest it, they'd just pay it out with dividends

[umbral heron]

Existence of billionaires tells me that money doesn't work

[fickle ore]

money never represented work, it represents means of exchanging work so as to quantify the value of work

[umbral heron]

Yeah, but we are not even quantifying it, we are speculating on it

[marsh glade]

The velocity of money doesn't change that GDP is a weird and mostly useless measuring stick

[fickle ore]

If it predicts how often money is exchanging hands it can also predict how robust the market is, how much work is available and how much work is worth.

[umbral heron]

And how much is a bubble? Because I'll never believe that Nvidia is worth $4.54T just because of LLMs

[astral haven]

Well no the GDP is about the value of goods and services rendered and the success of trading not the work itself

GDP per capita is more a measure of the value of work but still not really

[astral haven]

Look at the pe ratio
Forward PE ratio is how long to pay back investors in years at current (ly expected) income
Cisco during the dotcom bubble was in the 200 range and average growth tech stock is around the 20-30 range

[marsh glade]

As long as wealth inequality continues to increase, then so too will asset prices....
When a rich person gets more money, 100% goes into assets.

Of course nothing is a straight line

[astral haven]

And it can be over 100% because of the loan loophole

[fickle ore]

And value of goods is based on how much work is worth in general and how much work is available

Generalizing here

Globalization changes things but for sake of argument we can ignore that so lets speak about domestic markets

[astral haven]

Yes. But it's not about the value of the goods themselves, it's about how they are rendered or sent to the correct person. So if we say I want oranges but noone has oranges and people produce a ton of apples, even though its hard work, its not worth anything if noone wants apples

[fickle ore]

Definitely, so producing apples doesnt increase gdp in that scenario, and their work isnt worth anything

[astral haven]

But let's say that NVIDIA has a bunch of GPUs that they can't really make much money with, but OpenAI has a ton of uses for GPUs but doesn't really have the infrastructure for them. You can have OpenAI go to Oracle, go to NVIDIA to get the GPUs.
And that contributes a lot to GDP because there's a lot of people who are getting what they want in that situation, even though the actual value of goods is not as high

[old marlin]

either skip to 18 or 25

[fickle ore]

Yes but it don'tt stop there. It's a cycle. Then after Nvidia gets the $ from Oracle, it invests it back somewhere else. The problem is when they money stops changing hands. The faster the better, the higher the GDP and more robust market.

[astral haven]

Money is just the lubricant that makes trade work. And so GDP is a measure of how well-flowing a system is. Not necessarily the amount of stuff in the system.

[astral haven]

And currently the answer is OpenAI closing the loop

[fickle ore]

I agree. It predicts velocity of money, robustness of market and jobs. Maybe value of work, but not necessarily if one nation comes up with a system that money changing hands faster than another.

[astral haven]

Which the us has

[fickle ore]

It's still not at a level where ppl like Musk and Buffet swap 200 B each day to increase GDP

xD

Google failed me providing a graph of nation's money velocity. I wanted to see if there was a bump caused by AI

[dense spear]

Why won’t my wooting 60he update

It’s says going into update mode or whatever then says failed every time

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[fickle ore]

@astral haven Im not seeing the bump

It's quite recent phenomena so maybe it isn't showing yet

[wheat plume]

Lol wtf is this shit :')

AI rizzler wingman app

[unkempt lake]

buttPlugGPT

[wheat plume]

Xd

[marsh glade]

Even in this AI frenzy world, the amount of money changing hands for AI related activity is peanuts compared to global commerce

[devout citrus]

How are u folks switching the keyboard and mouse from a computer to another? I have a personal computer and my professional computer and I'd like the same gadgets without the need of unplugging and plugging again!! Any advices? I've found some switches but I don't know if they can impact the performance of wooting/etc.

[reef patrol]

Multiple computers? confused noises

(You'd use a KVM switch or software to pass on the hardware inputs)

[devout citrus]

yes, a desktop and a laptop

any KVM switch recommendation?

in terms of quality

The wooting recommedantion is to not use KVM switches, am I right?

"Avoid using a KVM switch or USB Hub."

(idea of product, an official KVM from wooting)

[astral haven]

Wdym?
It's been higher since the 30s?

[fickle ore]

The AI spending. What has been higher and since when?

[astral haven]

Us money velocity

[fickle ore]

Higher than rest of the world? Yeah but thats not recent. They've figured it out or they like living on credit

[astral haven]

Yeah, the ai spending isn't showing up yet, because it's happening right now.

[fickle ore]

Yeah, remains to be seen what % it amounts to vs all spending

[woeful yew]

I have a ASUS OLED XG27AQDMG and I only have 55 hours on the monitor. I got it on the 25th it’s been working smoothly but today I got on and it told me to do a pixel clean so I did but then it gave me burnt in pixels. Is that on me or the monitor and why did that happen?

[vapid ruin]

https://fixvx.com/MerriamWebster/status/1971565721743200406

Merriam-Webster (@MerriamWebster)

We are thrilled to announce that our NEW Large Language Model will be released on 11.18.25.

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Sep 26, 2025, 1:21 PM

Very cool model

[wheat plume]

If google really do limit side loading on Android to only verified APKs....

Then what's the point of using Android???
May as well go on iPhone at that point because Apple also have the verified side loading going on now

[rough osprey]

for enthusiasts that used that feature ig

[pale sigil]

This is great

[ashen spindle]

most people never side load a thing why would anything change

[lyric hatch]

There are more things than side loading that keep me on android

[steady sail]

the only thing i liked was the custom themes

[wheat plume]

I side load a different reddit client cause the official Reddit app is ugly and confusing and full of ads

And these that aren't in play store and never will be

[steady sail]

idk never really cared about reddit that much

[ashen spindle]

have they indicated they will refuse to make the apps verified?

verified doesnt mean its on the app store

[lyric hatch]

Cant have these numbers on iOS

Because apple hates giving options to people God forbid having a personal preference

[harsh ether]

whats the issue?

i see no problem on my end

[rough osprey]

no ., or numbers