🔌│tech

[verbal marsh]

Done that too

Could it be a fault with the gpu?

[ashen spindle]

could be yes

[verbal marsh]

Awh mane

[ashen spindle]

could be anything

what cpu do you have

[verbal marsh]

It’s a good one I forgot the name

I forgot

😭

[ashen spindle]

open task manager to see the name

[verbal marsh]

It’s a 5700x

[ashen spindle]

okay so no igpu so cant test that

do you have another older gpu still around?

[verbal marsh]

This my first pc

So no

[ashen spindle]

could be a crash form overheating check gpu temperature

other ports on the gpu/other cable if you have

and as I said could try reinstalling windows

[verbal marsh]

Just asking, why would that be an issue so I can understand better

[ashen spindle]

because something could be broken in the part that tries to communicate with the gpu driver

[verbal marsh]

Ohhh

Should I upgrade to the new windows 11

[ashen spindle]

you'll have to in a while anyway so might as well I guess

[harsh ether]

noTM

[pale sigil]

3d printed a cat

[harsh ether]

wow nice print

[pastel galleon]

high quality print

[magic minnow]

S26 concept I guess

[outer spire]

Glad i didnt upgrade from my 16 pro lol

[analog sinew]

yes this phone is made of phone

the middle one looks awful the other are run of the mill

[vapid ruin]

Man already?

[outer spire]

Yup

Back pocket is the cause @vapid ruin

Now instead of bendgate it just breaks

[vapid ruin]

You win some you lose some.

[outer spire]

Iphone 16 doesnt do that shit though

[rustic knot]

Hi I want to buy a wooting two he from a seller, but he is missing the cable. So i am wondering if anyone knows which cable i need to buy.

[reef patrol]

Any, flat USB cable should work.

[rustic knot]

Thanks a lot!

[reef patrol]

The USB port is on the underside, so a cable with a thick connector (the plastic/metal behind the USB plug) can't be much wider than the USB itself.

A cable like this wouldn't fit. Too thick.

[rustic knot]

I see! Thank you for the detailed response

[outer spire]

Whats the point of coiled cables

[reef patrol]

Flair and aesthetics.

Functionally they serve no purpose.

[outer spire]

It must get annoying on the desk sometimes?

[umbral heron]

They be shorter, so I can wrap them around the monitor

[outer spire]

Hi calsy

[reef patrol]

It's not so bad. Helps to have a cable duct

[outer spire]

Looks odd

[umbral heron]

[nimble arch]

Huh

[reef patrol]

Must be the Onion. Youtube doesn't remove videos when they actually should.

[umbral heron]

I understand that LLM chatbots are useful for programming and stuff, but image and video generators are almost exclusively used to make scams, gruesome content or propaganda

[vapid ruin]

image gen is good if you want to make your own waifu

video gen is too much for local (at least 5090 to generate 4 sec video in 20-30min iirc)

[thick elk]

Some people at work messed around with it, does make for mildly entertaining brain rot if you go down the nonsense route.

[analog sinew]

u forgot porn

[slate bison]

Hi guys I got a new wooting keyboard I wanna change my keyboard switches to gateron magnetic jade but gateron jade switches is 3.5mm Key travel wooting lekker switches is 4mm key travel. So I wanna know if I change to magbetic jade Will the bottom dead zone change from 0.2 mm to 0.5mm？

[reef patrol]

You're losing some travel length

[slate bison]

Will the bottom dead zone increase?

[reef patrol]

I don't follow

Once you push down 3.5mm that's full value.

Wootility doesn't yet have the ability to change the total travel, so you'll have to keep that in mind when setting it up

[digital cliff]

answer is no because the board auto-calibrates

besides, your logic makes no sense as taking out .5mm of travel would take out the deadzone too, so why would it increase

[analog sinew]

i think there is some confusion about terms here

[digital cliff]

it's about deadzones, not travel length

[reef patrol]

Deadzone implies you're pushing and nothing is happening. And that's not happening with 3.5 switch here.

Only way a deadzone could happen here as far as In aware is if our switches and software were 3.5, and someone installed a switch with longer travel than that.

And even then as Fleimi mentions, calibration will figure this out over time as you press keys over and over.

[naive nymph]

idk why ppl on techtok hates wooting 😭

[umbral heron]

There's no tech tok
There's people on tiktok who act like they know about tech but they do not
And people who got a free keyboard to do marketing on it (I look at you Madlions)

[nimble arch]

Do they hate Wooting or do they hate that Wooting won't send them free stuff?

[umbral heron]

latter

i have 5k follwores on teektook pls gib free keboard

[lyric hatch]

pretty much they're only shilling products they get paid to shill and Wooting is the easy comparison since it's popular

[vagrant pagoda]

and porn, mostly porn

[devout raptor]

do you think people would use that horseshit app if everyone was sound and reasonable

also people who watch techtok are casuals that dont even know anything to begin with so easy pickings

[unkempt lake]

I use them for memes

which talking about memes

https://youtu.be/1oZ4aKydbIY?si=Zn3sFFOdUw6Jxg6W

Absolute masterpiece

only reason for ai to exist is for shitposts

[umbral heron]

Yes, we did destroy ecosystem and accelerated global warming
But at least we created a lot of value for shareholders and made a ton of brainrot memes

[unkempt lake]

It fits with the vietnam theme of the meme too

https://tenor.com/view/napalm-forest-fire-air-drop-gif-16727175

deforestation is FUN

[umbral heron]

Back when US actually fought wars to fund war machine instead of just scamming regular folks like now

[sudden imp]

AMERICA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅

[unkempt lake]

moumourica

low quality moumou

Because amourica is low quality

[umbral heron]

America is quite okay
One day Venezuela has issues, one day it's US, happens

[devout raptor]

pretty thing

[steady sail]

its looks cool

[dull hollow]

places on table
byebye anodized edge

[steady sail]

i would get a case for it soo

[dull hollow]

i would too

[umbral heron]

Why get a nice anodized then if you're gonna keep it in case

[dull hollow]

because its aluminiumummum

anything will scratch it

[umbral heron]

Sounds like a really stupid idea to make a phone body out of it then

[dull hollow]

but the heat dissipation

[umbral heron]

Wouldn't then using a case inhibit heat dissipation?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[umbral heron]

From the other things getting a Tamron 17-70 was a good idea

[astral haven]

Std zoom for the win

[naive nymph]

they just think wootings shit cause it cost alot

[steady sail]

i always used cases on my phones soo

[nimble arch]

You get what you pay for

[umbral heron]

Still 2 best keyboards on prosettings
Meanwhile shitseries is not even in top 5

[nimble arch]

If someone can’t afford a $200-300 product, that is their problem. Doesn’t make it bad.

I can’t afford a luxury car, doesn’t make them bad.

[umbral heron]

Unless it's Ferrari
If you do as little as painting it the colour they don't approve they can void your warranty and decline your membership restricting your access to pre-orders and exclusive editions

It's very similar with McLaren about any sort of modifications

[sudden imp]

I’ve seen people drop it from like 2 feet and give it a big ol fucking dent

[umbral heron]

Porsche doesn't give a f, you can even drive fucking Miku itasha 911, you're still a cool dude for them

[vapid ruin]

assuming the list is updated for q3 2025, it's insane lmao

[nimble arch]

Porsche also have a multi-year waiting list on anything worth buying

[devout raptor]

yea its a piece of shit

[nimble arch]

Plus all the luxury sports car companies have this selective/preferred customer bullshit.

[devout raptor]

the air felt nice but using a case will remove all the wonder

[umbral heron]

I'd love to see a luxury car brand which makes 80s/90s inspired cars

Or any car brand doing those

[nimble arch]

You don’t want a two ton SUV with blinding LED headlights?

[umbral heron]

stupid SUVs
ugly, huge, impractical, guzzle fuel like crazy

[balmy vector]

Trucks

American trucks

[umbral heron]

No, this is stupid https://www.youtube.com/shorts/59ixuieK8ls

[latent mural]

Is 9060xt considered a 1440p card?

[steady sail]

if u fine on lower graphics

and using FSR Balanced/performance

[latent mural]

so either 1440 low or 1080 ultra

[latent mural]

is this counting fsr or no

[steady sail]

nope

atleast i think

[latent mural]

thats actually pretty nice

I believe it

Is it even worth upgrading though, I don't know how much of a difference switching to 2k will make

[steady sail]

what games are u playing ?

[latent mural]

Right now borderlands 4 ( 💀 ) and some other cpu intensive games

I plan on playing more ue5 titles soon

oh and gta

[steady sail]

yeah soo, for UE5 u gonna suffer no matter of the GPU

[latent mural]

true

5090 using 4k resolution gets 40 fps on native 4k when playing borderlands 4

[steady sail]

whats your CPU/GPU right now tho ?

[latent mural]

9060xt and 7600x3d

I'll make my decision based on how much of a visual upgrade is noticeable

[gusty kiln]

what monitor you have now?

[latent mural]

1080p 280 hz monitor

do you want specifics

[gusty kiln]

nah

1440p 120-165hz are really cheap

[latent mural]

I just don't know how much of a visual difference it is between 1080p and 1440p, thats what is holding me back from buying one

[gusty kiln]

but 9060xt will struggle at 1440p 240hz

[latent mural]

oh yeah of course

[gusty kiln]

so do you need 200+ hz?

for esport games?

[latent mural]

I don't play esport games at all so I don't mind sacrificing some hertz

[magic minnow]

Don’t esport players play at like 1080 anyways?

[tepid lynx]

visual upgrade is worth it to 1440p imo

[gusty kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnS3DC3ClSI

[tepid lynx]

especially with how cheap 1440p monitors can be

[latent mural]

Sold my previous pc parts for 200 so that will be my budget

[tepid lynx]

I use my old 1080p as a second monitor and it’s night and day in my eyes

[latent mural]

Damn really?

I wish there was a way I can actually see how much of a difference it actually is

[tepid lynx]

go to an electronics store and they’ll probably have some 1080s and 1440s on display

[gusty kiln]

ideally a 24" 1080p and a 27" 1440p

a 32" 1440p will look the same as a 24" 1080p

[tepid lynx]

I will say my 1080 is 27” which is contributing to the difference

[latent mural]

how come?

[tepid lynx]

but I also wouldn’t want to go to a 24” again

[gusty kiln]

the math, when you calculate the pixel density

[latent mural]

Is it because the bigger the screen, the more stretched it becomes or idk

[steady sail]

1080p24” on the left side 1440p27” in the middle

[gusty kiln]

basically

[nimble arch]

I’m just waiting for the new 4th generation Tandem OLEDs from LG. Soon™.

Any day now

[steady sail]

its gonna be expensive tho xd

[nimble arch]

I’m after the 280Hz, not the really high-end one.

[tepid lynx]

that gigabyte one wasn’t that bad

[latent mural]

opinions on curved monitors?

[steady sail]

eww

[tepid lynx]

i also dislike curved monitors

[latent mural]

Yeah I don't know why they exist

[nimble arch]

Curved makes sense for an Ultrawide

Not for 16:9

[steady sail]

yeah, that is the only resolution where i can accept them

[tepid lynx]

hurts my head when i see a 27” curved monitor

[latent mural]

ooo this looks decent

adheres to my budget pretty well and has an acceptable refresh rate

[steady sail]

my main monitor is also 180hz IPS

[tepid lynx]

same here

if you’re near a costco they oftentimes have a pretty good deal on a good monitor

[latent mural]

and is it also true that the higher the resolution, the less my cpu will be utilized? If so then I can put off getting a new cpu cooler

[latent mural]

gonna check right now

[steady sail]

whats your cpu cooler right now ?

[latent mural]

A hyper 212

insanely budget

[tepid lynx]

Could get a thermalright dual tower cooler for like $30-$40

[steady sail]

yeah Peerless Assassin 120 is a goated cooler for the same budget

[latent mural]

Was thinking about getting a 360 aio which would be overkill for my 7600x3d but the aesthetics would look great

[steady sail]

dont get AIO its pointless

[gusty kiln]

thermalright AIO are super cheap

like 50-60

[tepid lynx]

still more than peerless assassin though if we’re hard budgeting

[latent mural]

True

[steady sail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3 goated cooler

[latent mural]

I will buy a 1440p monitor and save for an aio, the primary reason why I want the AIO is because of aesthetics and marginally better temps than a air cooler

[steady sail]

not really

[latent mural]

Ya think?

[steady sail]

i have an AIO and its not that great dx

[latent mural]

which one

[steady sail]

Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm

[latent mural]

oh

thats why then

I heard the artic freezer III is one of the best cpu coolers

the 360 one atleast

[steady sail]

u dont need a 360 aio

its pointless money waste

[latent mural]

Yea true, only reason is for aesthetics

[gusty kiln]

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=thermalright+water+cooler&crid=GZV3CBY5518A&sprefix=thermalright+water%2Caps%2C116&ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-expert-pd-ops-ranker_1_18

just get a thermalright aio

[latent mural]

75 dollar 360 aio that has a display screen

interesting

[gusty kiln]

I don't think it's a display

just lighting

[rough osprey]

i love aio

[latent mural]

This one actually looks nice

[gusty kiln]

the $83 one has a display

[umbral heron]

I want to put bigger alumininuminum cube in my PC

[latent mural]

Transferring heat directly out of the case would def improve overall system temps ESPECIALLY since I have a fishtank case so things like to get very hot

[umbral heron]

Maybe AIO with fans outside the case

[latent mural]

so external fans straight up

Here’s the current configuration

[umbral heron]

Radeon
Fren

[gusty kiln]

white lighting is best lighting

[steady sail]

nono purple

[warm ore]

it's also very competitive performance while disguised as "budget" pricing

[latent mural]

Then that is golden

[unkempt lake]

What are you on about

[latent mural]

🫡 Switched from nividia to amd and I am loving it

[unkempt lake]

The 9060xt can do 1440 maxed in most games

With fsr quality

[steady sail]

yes

[unkempt lake]

Or native if its not like the most recent title

Its all jusr a game to game basis

But yeah it's a solid 1440p option

[latent mural]

"can it run borderlands 4" is the new "can it run crysis"

[unkempt lake]

It can indeed run borderlands 4

Borderlands will mostly rely on cpu tbh

[latent mural]

Yeah it can, I am playing it on 1080p which already takes 12GB OF VRAM.

[unkempt lake]

Game stutters on any lower end cpu config

But anything x3d is fine

[latent mural]

We all love UE5! 😁 (we don't)

[latent mural]

when gearbox decides to patch it up then yeah

[rough osprey]

no lighting is best lighting

https://x.com/xiaomi/status/1970824384177725599?s=46

Xiaomi (@Xiaomi)

Meet Xiaomi HyperIsland.

Your space to keep track of what matters, multitask with ease, and streamline notifications.

All without breaking your flow. #XiaomiHyperOS3 #XiaomiLaunch

X · Sep 24, 2025, 12:15 PM

wow very innovative

[leaden kiln]

Wow

[latent mural]

Thats just an iphone

[leaden kiln]

Just Samsung now bar fr

[latent mural]

theyre so shameless

[wheat plume]

oo that looks more useful than the one on iOS

[rough osprey]

how😭

[wheat plume]

doesnt the Apple one only show one thing at a time?

Like if you had music and a timer, it would only show the one you most recently interacted with?

[rough osprey]

no

[pale sigil]

So I learned projectors have fans and they can be loud lol

[balmy vector]

🐐

[pale sigil]

The goat died

[balmy vector]

Spoilers

[rough osprey]

cipher is scaryy

[pale sigil]

It's the same universe from the boys

It's not a spoiler

Lmao

[rough osprey]

but wtf was that toilet scene

😭

[reef patrol]

Oi. Stop restreaming my monitor 😄

[pale sigil]

? :p

[reef patrol]

I was watching White Collar and then Gen V earlier 😛

[haughty hemlock]

can I change only 1 key to be digital?

[pale sigil]

Don't deny that you liked it.

[reef patrol]

Your entire keyboard is already "digital", unless you specifically add gamepad binds to it.

[rough osprey]

and the scene with the powers of that other girl 😭

how do they come up with that

[fickle ore]

Intel & apple

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-seeking-investment-apple-part-200651919.html

[ashen spindle]

intel begging the top companies for money, okay

[fickle ore]

Begging is leaving ego at the door

Stay humble & classy

[umbral heron]

Intel is like this popular and pretty girl you knew in high-school you meet after 10 years, and she is still living with parents in your home village without any job and desperate to get married

[ashen spindle]

apple doesnt really have anything to gain from anything intel can do atm

[fickle ore]

lol that sounds the perfect match for 70% men out there 😄

[umbral heron]

That's a girl from my old class by the way Absolute asshole, but now evolved to a classic Karen type of person

[fickle ore]

idk, they just bought 2 more high-na machines from ASML, and considering LBT said few week ago that they would kill fabs if they didnt get any external customers.. hmmm hmmm..

[ashen spindle]

yeah again, what does apple care about that?

intel want apple, apple dont need intel

[umbral heron]

Apple did the courage thing with no headphones jack
Then with ARM CPUs in laptops
Now they'll bring x86 to iPhones

[fickle ore]

Apple owes intel for their comeback or was that msoft

x86s phones

14A ARM phones

[ashen spindle]

why would apple care about that when tsmc is ahead in performance for nodes

[umbral heron]

M5 Max with 6 P-cores and 10 E-cores

[fickle ore]

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/08/apple-increases-us-commitment-to-600-billion-usd-announces-ambitious-program/

they care 😄

[ashen spindle]

this doesnt involve intel

[fair gull]

the famous Intel X Apple M1, M2, M3 and M4 chips

and the even more famous Intel X Apple A series chips

[astral haven]

Well the hot trash modems in a few gens of iphone were intel
And Intel was mismanaging them so hard that apple bought out their modem division

But yea tsmc not intel

[ashen spindle]

and now they are replacing qualcomm modems step by step

[unkempt lake]

I'm like

Yall had issues with your phone's modem?

Only phone i ever really remember having widely documented issues was like... the pixel whatever

@lyric hatch come back

): dont just type for a while and vanish like that

I WAS WAITING FOR YOU

[lyric hatch]

I've had issues with my previous phone where I lose connection and it doesn't reconnect

[unkempt lake]

what was that phone

[lyric hatch]

S21 with exynos

[astral haven]

So many customers were having modem issues on ip7 and ip8
It wasn't iphone 5 bad but it was pretty bad

[unkempt lake]

I had an iphone x

I dont remember having issues

[astral haven]

Iphone x was lottery

Most got qualcomm

But Intel existed

[unkempt lake]

Any way to check?

I'm kinda curious i have it in a drawer

[astral haven]

A1865 is Qualcomm a1901 is Intel according to ai

[unkempt lake]

i had an a1901

Lol

[astral haven]

Guess you got lucky
Or Intel had fixed it by that point
I only heard of issues on 7 and 8 before looking it up just now

Folks online are only complaining about missing bands on the x
On 8 and 7 the modem could crash

[neat dawn]

Hello guys , Wootility showed that a key triggered Rapid Trigger even though no one was pressing any keys. But when I tested it in Word, none of the keys responded. Then I unplugged the USB and reconnected it, and the issue disappeared. Has anyone else experienced this? Also, is there any way to see which keys are currently being pressed?

[ashen spindle]

just replug it if a key has an issue probably means it was pressed while powerd on and then it wrongly calibrates the default state

[neat dawn]

but i dont know which key

[ashen spindle]

well if its not happenign anymore it doesnt matter which key it was?

and, uh, just click on any text field to see which key is pressed?

if its not pressing any key in word it seems it wasnt pressing any button?

[neat dawn]

yes,but I'm worried the issue might happen again. Is there any method or app that can show which key I'm currently pressing?

[ashen spindle]

just dont press a key while turning on power to the pc and it wont happen

and even if it can often recalibrate just fine on its own

[neat dawn]

ok thanks

[tribal dirge]

didn't Apple buy out Intel's modem division?

so that they could make their own modems while using qcomm as a stop-gap

[tribal dirge]

TSMC is an obvious choice tbh because they've been a long time partner with them.

Corning was also kinda obvious since they make all the glass for Apple's phones and displays

Apple's ceramic shield is just fancy branding for Corning's Gorilla Glass Ceramic.

[astral haven]

yes that is what i said

[astral haven]

intel was supposed to be the stopgap while they were feuding with qcom, but the intel modems were too terrible to use so they had to go back to qcom

[magic minnow]

[rough osprey]

what kinda test is that 😭

[analog sinew]

why is samsung immediately jumping on stupid apple trends

ooo flat phone uuuu

[umbral heron]

Because creativity is dead in the age of late stage consumerism and capitalism
Customers are not the clients now, shareholders are

[fickle ore]

Lol creativity is definitely a thing

People are just boomer mentality overall and resistant to change

see e.g. meta doing new AR glasses and youngings oppose them

So it pays to release the same shit because people actually buy it

You make what ultimately the cross section of the world population wants

Kids and teenagers are the actual trendsetters because their brains are still high in neuroplasticity

[old marlin]

Failry standard test actually

[lyric hatch]

Samsung did it first and it's probably just because they had the tech to do so while developing folding phones

[analog sinew]

🤢

[analog sinew]

hey true wheres the apple foldable cant wait for them to innovate that

[lyric hatch]

it's coming

hate to think at what cost though

[umbral heron]

Because it's Meta
It's not AR glasses, it's Data Harvester 9000

[lyric hatch]

the fold7 is real thin though

[magic minnow]

Next year

[magic minnow]

I had to use a case on mine because it’s wayyyy too thin

[vapid ruin]

all that data and they can't still make good AI

[coarse jackal]

I just opened my pc to this, what is that? The log goes on for ages

[umbral heron]

Debug log from keyboard, useful info for troubleshooting

Although I think that's from Wootility app if you're using app and not web version

[coarse jackal]

Alright, thanks was just a bit worried cause I was troubleshooting the keyboard about 2-3 weeks ago and the log opened just now on boot. Wasnt there prior, so just got a bit weirded out

[lucid hare]

what is the best cs2 counter strafe settings ? idk how to setup my keyboard

[ashen spindle]

Whatever works best for you

[reef patrol]

https://www.theverge.com/news/785544/microsoft-windows-10-extended-security-updates-free-europe-changes

Oh no. Whatever will we do.

[vapid ruin]

if windows 7 user can do fine sticking to windows 7, I'm gonna stick to windwos 10

[reef patrol]

It's primarily a security issue at the end of the day. And at some point some newer games may require odd tweaks.

Iirc Steam is now no longer Win 7 or 32bit. Or soon to not be.

[ashen spindle]

meh there isnt really a reason to stay on 10 anymore

[fair gull]

BuT iTs So MuCh BeTtEr ThAn WiNdOwS11

[crimson wigeon]

It is but eh, at least with the pro edition you can still pretty easily disable all the bullshit

[hallow marsh]

what downsides?

[reef patrol]

Jeroen's commented on many videos that talk about TMR.

[tribal dirge]

I had an intel modem iphone for a while, it was baddddddddddd

the iPhone 7 being the worst of the bunch

iPhone X was no better lol

and then iPhone 12 came out with the Qcomm 5G modems and connectivity on iPhone was not cursed ever since.

[lunar elm]

tbh i hated having an iphone xr icl

[nimble arch]

I went from an iPhone 7 > XR > 13PM > 16PM

[lunar elm]

mine’s been a phone passdown xd

iphone 6> lost> 7>8>XR>12P>14 pro

and it wasnt me who lost the phone lmfao

[earnest pendant]

When will I be able to play with an wooting optical wireless gaming mouse???

[reef patrol]

You'll have to ask a multiversal entity that.

[earnest pendant]

I know that it will be possible soon and if it is not I would be very sad

😆

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-any-day-now-bored-gif-15093139

[ornate crest]

Anyone here smart with pc airflow?

[warm ore]

Not smart necessarily, but if you post the issue or question, you will get responses

[umbral heron]

Rule of thumb - air goes from front to back, and from bottom to top
Negative pressure in case if you want better cooling, but dust will suck in more
Positive is the opposite of that, but differences are minuscule, so whichever you pick it'll be fine

[ornate crest]

Trying to make my AIO exhaust but forgot how to mount the fans, can you help me figure out how I should mount them

I mounted one but I can't really feel air as the human hand is not nearly as good as electronics in moving things

Thought I was clever for a sec

[warm ore]

Yeah, you wanna generally mount them at the bottom of the radiator to push outside/up top, you wanna have the motor side visible as you mount on the rad.

[ornate crest]

Okay so the nice side shouldn't be visible inside the case

[steady sail]

on the fans there should be an arrow

[ornate crest]

This.. seems like an arrow but I don't know if it's a design choice

[steady sail]

check on all sides

[ornate crest]

It's on all sides

[warm ore]

this is Motor side, it's grabbing air from here, towards the back where you see the plastic cross sections

Always the same rule for all fans, unless fans explicitly say Reverse fan

So you want this to be upside as you mount on your radiator, if you are mounting the radiator on the top to exhaust.

That way you will have it push.

[ornate crest]

So I need to.. see the logo..?

[warm ore]

Did it not make sense?

[ornate crest]

I mean if I put the logo down the little arrow on the side points up to the radiator

[warm ore]

yeah thats correct

[ornate crest]

I'm not the sharpest, sorry..

[warm ore]

Well i tried to explain in detail, just let me know what is unclear

[ornate crest]

You're saying the way the logo points.. that's the side air will be pushed to..? right..?

[warm ore]

it's the housing of the motor where that log is yes

but theres not always a logo, so thats irrelevant

[rough osprey]

it goes in there

[warm ore]

the arrow that is on some fans confirms it

[rough osprey]

and comes out the other side

[ornate crest]

My fan has arrows..

[rough osprey]

send a pic of the front

[warm ore]

You already confirmed it before

[ornate crest]

This would.. be intake

[warm ore]

yeah you have it wrong

[ornate crest]

says the fan

So fan go other way

gotcha gotcha

[warm ore]

unless you wanna put the rad infront of the case?

where are you putting it

[ornate crest]

No, top mount

But good point

[warm ore]

So then turn the fan around

and it will be mounted on the bottom of the rad, pushing air out top

[ornate crest]

yea

bit of a confusing pic I know

I.. send it while the rad is already upside down so

[warm ore]

Not confusing at all

[ornate crest]

yeah that's the bottom but thankies

[warm ore]

If you just learn that detail about the motor side you will always know how to orient your fans, wether you have logos/arrows or not.

[ornate crest]

Motor side

I'll try to remember

[rough osprey]

i wonder if this is true for most fan - rad combinations

[warm ore]

Not sure, but i see EK i ignore.

[rough osprey]

lol

[warm ore]

Also situations from case to case and setup to setup will differ.

For example in an O11 Dynamic, the front intake classic setup goes out the window

[rough osprey]

thats why you just go push pull

[warm ore]

Nothing wrong with some bruteforce, especially when it comes to cooling ^^

[rough osprey]

real

ill probably do such a setup some day

like 420mm aio with 6 140mm noctua g2s

[warm ore]

The only reason i don't have push/pull on my current rad is cause since i switched cases it just simply won't fit

5000D had that recessed top, so it was easy to do in that

That case had 15x 120mm

[rough osprey]

damn

[ashen spindle]

thats why you just dont bother with rads, big tower go brrr

[rough osprey]

i dont want brrrr

i want ....

[ashen spindle]

make tower bigger and its less noise than a pump

[warm ore]

Next build will be in the V3000+

[rough osprey]

i have no idea how people manage to hear aio pumps

[warm ore]

Sometimes it's luck

[ashen spindle]

well its not loud but its more noise than a fan thats not even spinning xD

[warm ore]

But most often bad purchase choises

[rough osprey]

i would have to eliminate all coil whine first

but pump with some air in it sounds nice

[warm ore]

My dailies never had coil whine yet, hoping this next one i can dodge again

However some that i built for others did

[rough osprey]

3090 had a lot, 5080 good some

my motherboard has some i think

[warm ore]

it's very hit and miss, can't even be said per model, but some brands models had more % than others

[rough osprey]

might be bc of aggressive settings idk

[warm ore]

Ohh the mobo does? interesting

I heard about it before, but i have no experience with that

[rough osprey]

ill upgrade it next year probably anyway

itx board in full tower looks too funny

[warm ore]

fair

yeah it do be lookin goofy

[rough osprey]

and i want more controllable fan headers

[warm ore]

Many solutions to that, i've been dealing so much with that that i started appreciating solutions that mean less wires

Like working with Unifans is a sort of godsend

[rough osprey]

what are these solutions

[warm ore]

Some cases come with hubs, but you can also get hubs yourself. Mainly those have different versions, then some brands like Lian Li do something called Unifans, where you can interlock fans and you only need one cable per fan cluster.

Some software and hubs can integrate with the mobo, some can be controlled separately.

Some of it gives you partial control, some of it gives you per cluster fine tuning.

[rough osprey]

can you recommend any hubs that have more fine control ?

[warm ore]

Not from the top of my head. Especially while in a game.

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle intel keeps chugging at 7% every day lol

wen will this madness stop

[ashen spindle]

idk watch next earnings call drop it 40%

[mental flume]

i need some helpo

[vapid ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNumJwHpXIA

They don't test long context processing, only smol one.

When you're sending documents that really help and CPU inference really bad at that speed wise

[reef patrol]

Can't help, if you don't ask a question. 🙂

[mental flume]

some of my keys dont work and are swtched up

thnk u can tell whch one doesnt

[reef patrol]

Wooting keyboard? Which one?
Does unplugging and replugging work? (Let it sit fora few seconds after replugging before typing)

[mental flume]

it fixed the i keyt

but one of my keys have been swicthed whenever i use it ingame?

fx my " ' " key and " - " are swicthed

@reef patrol

[reef patrol]

That sounds like you might be on the wrong keyboard language.

https://help.wooting.io/article/166-how-to-change-windows-keyboard-layout
Here's a step by step guide for Windows.

Yes, @knotty fox?

[knotty fox]

Hi !
Sorry for reaching privatly xD
I wanted to ask if there is something to help with my issue with my 80he color peeling off 🙂

[reef patrol]

If your 80HE Zinc case is peeling, that's a factory defect. Please reach out to customer support for assistance with this: https://wooting.io/support
🙂

[knotty fox]

Thanks a lot ! I just sumbitted a ticket there , just wanted to make sure if I can make thing faster here also

[reef patrol]

Naw. No customer support on Discord. Public space and all that. 🙂

[knotty fox]

appericate it !
Do you know what are the next steps ? like I can get a new case / board ?

[reef patrol]

I'll leave that to the capable warranty team to answer that. We have some options depending on the circumstances and your preferences 🙂

[knotty fox]

Thanks a lot man

[mental flume]

i did it but its specifacly when im iin a roblox game

[ashen spindle]

Feels like it’s already showing Jake isn’t there anymore because I’d guess he’s be more knowledgeable about this lol

[halcyon moss]

And wasn't even that knowledgeable.. Dangerous enough for most things hehe.

Didnt know Linus' adopted son left ltt

[ashen spindle]

I mean yeah but he’d be able to understand things well enough to find out there’s more

certainly dont tink nvidia is more inclined to send them something after that showing lol

[woeful yew]

Should I get a premium cable set? Just wondering if it’s worth the money.

[steady sail]

If u like it sure

[reef patrol]

It won't add any performance. You buy it because you like how it looks.

[reef patrol]

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-25423496

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-hot-hot-sexy-sunnies-on-go-to-bed-with-me-gif-15368624

[gentle osprey]

Not mine btw lol

[steady sail]

Your dark matter cpu doesnt cool very well

[halcyon moss]

It wasn't all bad tbh. But the 5090 test was weird.. Only testing a model that doesn't fit in it's memory? Of course it's gonna be deadslow

[ashen spindle]

need to watch it again but didnt they also use A1111 which is basically not maintained?

[sharp badger]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-PRO-X3D-ICE There's ''X3D'' mobos now?

[ashen spindle]

yeah its just marketing names

[sharp badger]

With max performance one gets another display

[steady sail]

Where are my AI mobos

[sharp badger]

It gets performance by AI

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-XTREME-AI-TOP-rev-1x#kf

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/TRX50-AI-TOP

Here's some AI mobos

https://wccftech.com/msi-expands-white-am5-motherboard-lineup-itx-mpg-x870i-edge-ti-evo-mag-x870e-tomahawk-max-pz-backside-connectors/ Kinda like the look of the new white Tomahawk

[gusty kiln]

Whenever I see AI on a motherboard, usually it's just better than average networking

Like dual nics or 10gbe

[sharp badger]

They should market the mobos with AI zones

[fickle ore]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-approaches-tsmc-investments-partnership-194119153.html

[rough osprey]

when they gonna approach AMD

[fickle ore]

that would be hilarious

@ashen spindle thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1nqd7cr/single_cell_analyst_couldnt_be_more_wrong_about/

[pastel galleon]

9800X3D kugelblitz edition

[ashen spindle]

I dont even understand what that guy is trying to say

is he trying to say cpus are more important for LLMs in the future?

[fickle ore]

From what I understood no, but that cpus are more efficient for inference and small/mid businesses might go for them and ull see xeons paired with every nvidia gpu

[ashen spindle]

these inference energy consumption numbers dont make sense because you cant look at just one component for a full system

[fickle ore]

But I also didnt understand kek

[ashen spindle]

I think hes trying to say cpus are more efficent? but like he looks at one part of a datacenter and forgets all the rest in it

like none of that even matters if intel cant make cpus that beat AMD and now also lose to the new snapdragon next year lol

you can win a segment just from nvidia using it for cheap to not fund AMD more

[fickle ore]

Maybe its the AMX card? https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1npk2wc/phoronix_the_massive_ai_performance_benefit_with/

Idk if AMD has AMX

[ashen spindle]

no but its all converging into the same x86 ISA

[fickle ore]

bc the op said xeons are beating it perf/dollar and quotes another reddit post that speaks about AMX

[pastel galleon]

what is AMX

[fickle ore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jxwk05/intel_6944p_the_most_cost_effective_cpu_solution/

this

[ashen spindle]

you cant just make up memory bandwidth out of nothing so the only advantages are when you run out of memory on gpu since you can have TBs of ram on cpu

but thats something simpler solved than making a cpu as wide as a gpu

and that guys math is completely wrong

[fickle ore]

🤔

[halcyon moss]

Yup, unless the memory bandwidth of tye cpu increases significantly.. A GPU is way faster

[ashen spindle]

but with the x86 consortium they are basically converging unto the same thing so intel and amd use the same things

[fickle ore]

Ah I see

[ashen spindle]

like the way inference exploded kinda made AMX extra pointless xD

but so far intel is doing what I expected, LBT is a venture capitalist guy so hes going to squeeze maximum value out of the stock and then the company is probably dying because VC doesnt look at long term lol

[wheat plume]

The Raspberry Pi 500+ is neat!!
Got a mechanical keyboard now, internal SSD and 16gb ram

[astral haven]

Its also 200 buckaroos

[fair gull]

tbf the normal pi5 16gb is already 130

although i also dont know whod need 16gb on a pi

the 4 and 8gb models are better options for most use cases imo

[pale sigil]

Running Desktop OSes is still so shit though

[devout raptor]

hmm

[marsh glade]

I saw that too

Installed it, no issues

[unkempt lake]

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/the-xbox-ally-x-is-already-selling-out-despite-its-beefy-price-tag-the-hype-is-real-says-microsoft

[devout raptor]

it seems some anticheats flag this driver

[marsh glade]

That's fine, I don't play any games with anticheat 🤷

[devout raptor]

fortunate

[marsh glade]

Unless... Did Rimworld or Satisfactory add anticheat?

[devout raptor]

probably not kernel level

[rough osprey]

you cheater...

[marsh glade]

1v1 me in Split Fiction

[rough osprey]

that gonna be a long battle

[marsh glade]

We'll have so much fun

[rough osprey]

[balmy vector]

Ride on, my trusty snail steed!!!!

[unkempt lake]

Why do you use fancontrol

literally there's a bunch of other ways to control your fans

[rough osprey]

best way

[lunar elm]

use ur hands and control them urself

[unkempt lake]

i just... use my bios

and amd adrenaline for the gpu

[rough osprey]

they dont offer as much configuration

[gentle osprey]

Seems overpriced and a 1 year warranty

[unkempt lake]

Every handheld is overpriced

[gentle osprey]

Yep

[unkempt lake]

Atm

1 year warranty isn't really a deal breaker tho

[gentle osprey]

$1K with a 1 year warranty doesn’t seem right to me

At least do 2 lol

[unkempt lake]

So many things come with 1 year warranties xD

[gentle osprey]

Unacceptable Dashi

[rough osprey]

usa moment

[gentle osprey]

Do these people not have faith in their products

[unkempt lake]

Lenovo has a 1 year warrsnty as well

Makes you pay extra for 2 years

[gentle osprey]

[unkempt lake]

I know

It's just kinda... everywhere

[unkempt lake]

[gentle osprey]

I demand better warranties

[unkempt lake]

you could go live in the EU

[gentle osprey]

True

[unkempt lake]

or live here

[gentle osprey]

Yall have better consumer protection

[unkempt lake]

I ain't european

[gentle osprey]

Oh yeah

[unkempt lake]

But yes we have better consumer protection here too

[gentle osprey]

You’re that other kind of human being

[lyric hatch]

Or NZ/Aus also have better consumer protection laws

[gentle osprey]

From that other place

[unkempt lake]

Dude thought i was a frenchie >:(

[gentle osprey]

They have French in Canada

[unkempt lake]

yea

Indeed but i'm not french

I'm a Quebecer

[gentle osprey]

Haha

[unkempt lake]

It's different

French canadian machine

[gentle osprey]

An XQCer

Kidding

[unkempt lake]

you can keep him we dont want him

[gentle osprey]

[gentle osprey]

True

[lofty pivot]

@umbral heron sony launching new 100mm macro lens next week it seems

going to be insanely pricy though, it's a top tier GM level lens

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-geralt-of-rivia-the-witcher-fuck-gif-15913480

[lofty pivot]

so i don't really regret buying the tamron since that's like $800 vs. $2k for GM stuff lol

[lyric hatch]

A lot of the time you're much better off with the third party lens especially with some of the older Sony lenses

[lofty pivot]

yeah sony's old 90mm is so old now it's just noisy and slow focus

the tamron was cheaper and better in basically everything. I assume this new 100mm macro is going to be insanely good though, but you really have to be doing pro level stuff to pay GM prices normally

[lyric hatch]

For sure GM lenses ain't cheap

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/zC7IIJCz8Dw

I expect keyboard videos like this from you

[lofty pivot]

we shared the previous video from him internally actually lol

the one with the entire 360 pano moving shot of an entire assembly line being built in timelapse

[gentle osprey]

Hahah

That’s funny

[lofty pivot]

I don't even want to know what the rig they used to film that scene was and how much it cost to be able to replicate the exact same movement twice (or more) to be able to timelapse while moving through complicated 360 pans

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I am not versed in that , can’t imagine but seems cool lol

[marsh glade]

Laugh in Eurozone

[lyric hatch]

They have a cool astrophotography rig 👀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3D06D97jo

[lofty pivot]

I want to know what their editor did before because it feels like his entire job is to come up with elaborate film sequences that seem insanely hard to film and edit

[gentle osprey]

[gentle osprey]

Yeah dudes got some experience

[marsh glade]

Holy smokes these edits are incredible

[lofty pivot]

it's funny that they always put 'no cgi' because you wouldn't believe it's pure editing and filming rigs to make it happen otherwise

[lyric hatch]

Close enough

Turns out it's pretty hard to take astrophotography on your phone with no tripod

[leaden kiln]

mic arm arrived today

[magic minnow]

Miku iPhone when

[analog sinew]

missed opportunity to spell it MicU

[steady sail]

Worth every cent

[leaden kiln]

a lot of cents

[thick elk]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6tQYJSEMw

Seems GN is going to do benchmarking on linux, nice.

Wendel making oretty sane arguments of what to choose, but I am sure they figure it out on the way

[marsh pewter]

wowie

[crimson wigeon]

Neat

[harsh ether]

based

[steady sail]

If linux would be more user friendly

[harsh ether]

get linux mint or something then

[steady sail]

Im gonna stay on windows

[harsh ether]

[steady sail]

Im mainly play games

Soo i dont mind windoge

[thick elk]

That's okay, especially multiplayer titles. As for users friendliness depends in the user. Linux does have some wins here too. The longer I use the more I notice jank on windows, that works better on linux.

For example display scaling in windows does not scale the bounding box, making 2 different dpi equal sized screens more annoying to navigate. Or cursor losing focus / alt tabbing issues still being more of a problem on windows.

[crimson wigeon]

Windows being shuffled around because of a game going full screen in a different resolution, looking at you skate

[unkempt lake]

And then all your icons end up scattered

I hate when games do this

[marsh pewter]

linux mint is poop from a butt

[wheat plume]

Bluefin

https://projectbluefin.io/

[ashen spindle]

cloud-native Linux workstation

[wheat plume]

Fully automated updates
Automated rollback if an update fails
Applies update when you reboot / turn on the computer

Nvidia drivers built into the dedicated Nvidia builds

[wheat plume]

That just means if you use the developer version, you use containers and cloud hosting like GitHub and whatnot to do your coding stuff

All their infrastructure to build and update the isos is all in the cloud too
Mainly GitHub actions

[crimson wigeon]

Can't wait for Microsoft to pull the plug on that

[wheat plume]

Hmmm?

Microsoft are not worried about Linux
They know no one will switch to it until their games and Microsoft Office suite are on there

[steady sail]

Nah

[empty wren]

Microsoft 365 exists free in the web browser so any Linux can use it heck so can any Chromebook user

[pastel galleon]

i have been meaning to switch to linux, sincw all my games I play are nice with the OS

[tribal dirge]

I love that channel, I watch them on bilibili all the time

you should see their iPhone 17 video, way better than any MKBHD or Mrwhosetheboss video ever created.

[rough osprey]

i feel like its too influenced by shortform content in a way

too much happening for my liking

[tribal dirge]

Chinese videos are like that

its the norm in china

[rough osprey]

probably

[tribal dirge]

lots of stuff going on, lots of stuff to look at

[tribal dirge]

no I know, I use Bilibili a lot

[rough osprey]

the animations and stuff are cool thoo

[tribal dirge]

ikrrrrr, so smooth, and also the norm for high quality channels in China

like this chinese car review channel https://youtu.be/0xumyEf-WRI?si=gIZm1I_OZsVMnsfm

tested a bunch of car safety features.

real world tests on a legit highway.

I also like their mentality

"We shouldn't hype up how "safe" a car is. We should be talking about where that safety hits a wall."

[lyric hatch]

The editing is sick although at times it seems overdone

[tribal dirge]

I like it though, but that is just me

[lyric hatch]

the car video is fine but the HTX studio videos are on another level the editing is awesome but I'm just not sure everthing needs a transition and a sound effect

[rough osprey]

the audio could get a lil upgrade

[vagrant pagoda]

fedora 🤮

[astral haven]

i just tried fedora for the first time and that was my experience

but what i ended up on is barely better... Brunch

[vagrant pagoda]

is that still getting updates?

[astral haven]

its on a more up to date kernel than my "officially supported" chromebook at work lel

oh wow the last release was yesterday

[vagrant pagoda]

nice

[astral haven]

yea not bad at all, google released this ver in august

[vagrant pagoda]

do you use android apps at on it at all?

[astral haven]

I installed it less than an hour ago but i plan to

[vagrant pagoda]

i have bliss as second os on my tablet

but the devs did some thing where they took down everything and locked all thre SM so yhou cant get any support

so idk wtf they are doing

[astral haven]

i installed wifiman and it worked instantly

[vagrant pagoda]

nice

going to do linux apps to?

[astral haven]

doubt ill need to

wonder how well vivaldi would work, vivaldi android is pain

wow i changed my mind fast lemme figure out how to do this

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

vivaldi is chromium though right?

[astral haven]

yea, but its amazing

holy mackerel you can double click install debs directly this is awesome

[vagrant pagoda]

ok i gotta get tghat

waiting on a m.2

had my first personal m.2 failure this week

[astral haven]

holy lag this thing is chugging

[vagrant pagoda]

LMAO

what is the hardware?

[astral haven]

1065g7 16gb of ram

oh needed gpu flag enabled chrome://flags/#crostini-gpu-support

[vagrant pagoda]

i got a 8665u and 16gb

so like the previous gen

[astral haven]

with gpu turned on its good

[vagrant pagoda]

so 5% per core slower

dose that laptop have good cooling?

[astral haven]

lol

[vagrant pagoda]

dell has amazing in these abit loud, get good turbo

[astral haven]

surface pro here
cooling?

[vagrant pagoda]

the 15w stuff depends on cooling a ton for boost

lots fo 15w laptops ahve ass cooling and cooks the chip

[astral haven]

ok so gpu accel in linux app is not happening

[vagrant pagoda]

damn

[astral haven]

i mean theres def something happening but its struggling to play youtube at 1x speed at 720p60

uhhh
it can do 4k native but not 1080p

[pastel galleon]

is the m.2 corrupted or dead

[vagrant pagoda]

slowly dieing

[pastel galleon]

??

windows 11?

[vagrant pagoda]

yes but it isnt the update thing

[pastel galleon]

oh

man I'm sorry :(

[vagrant pagoda]

why?

[pastel galleon]

just wanted to express my concern, hope you can still recover data from there

[vagrant pagoda]

slowly dieing =/= dead

[pastel galleon]

ik, just hoped it didn't degrade too far

[distant tapir]

dying*

[astral haven]

https://peepeepoopoodumdumtwitterx.org/SadlyItsBradley/status/1971317384096174166#m
I still have hopium :/

SadlyItsDadley (@SadlyItsBradley)

The internal repository of ARM built apps for Deckard/Steam Frame added another new game today. Slowly expanding how many partners have dev kits in their hands
︀︀
︀︀That makes 20+ apps currently being tested/built natively for the Snapdragon chip inside Valve’s upcoming VR headset

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pee pee poo poo dum dum twitter x · Sep 25, 2025, 8:54 PM

[lunar elm]

dying of death

[magic minnow]

The screen on the back is weird

[leaden kiln]

samsung flip aah

[umbral heron]

Why everyone is following this stupid ass trend

[magic minnow]

Vac when Samsung was cool

[outer spire]

Wdym screen

[magic minnow]

The middle phone the Xiaomi

See how on the camera module it has the screen, idk what the functions are gonna be but it’s a little weird

[lyric hatch]

it's 120hz and 3000 nits

kinda wild

[wheat plume]

Try Bluefin!
Or Aurora if you prefer Plasma desktop

[magic minnow]

I’d like to try the Xiaomi os

Hyper OS I think

[outer spire]

240hz when

[halcyon moss]

Cosmic is now in beta

[ashen spindle]

Will be so funny when it turns out to just be a android porting test device

[wheat plume]

It's pretty but feels so clunky imo
And the notifications are useless
You either have notifications or you don't, there's no other options like on Pixel and NothingOS

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZBwLi3ajYE
Whoa

[wheat plume]

https://minisforumpc.eu/products/minisforum-ms-s1-max-mini-pc

This is probably better value than the Framework Desktop? more ports, more storage, smaller case

[ashen spindle]

yes and still overpriced as hell

https://de.gmktec.com/en/products/gmktec-evo-x2-amd-ryzen™-ai-max-395-mini-pc-1?variant=51610049380536 400€ less

and still expensive for what it does

[wheat plume]

I love ity

VRR and HDR work flawlessly on my USB C dock, the official Valve Dock doesnt like them at all ;-;

[wheat plume]

oooo wow, the 65GB RAM version is wayyyyyyyy cheaper than the Framework

[steady sail]

tbh framework is very overpriced for what u get

[ashen spindle]

Yes framework is not worth it for anyone

[steady sail]

and tbh most pre-builts are overpriced

[ashen spindle]

I mean that’s not the point you cant diy a laptop

And framework desktop isn’t a normal desktop it’s the big AMD APU

[devout raptor]

up yours woke moralists, we'll see who cancels who

[wheat plume]

?

[frozen drift]

Right, just as I expected, I'm so sorry for the trouble caused due to my discord being compromised. I have no idea what I did for the past 1.5 years for this to happen to me. My sincere apologies. By the way, any experts here can tell me if I can visit some kind of cyber security services to improve the cyber securities of my various online accounts? Of course I know it's hard for specific names or whatever but do this kind of services exist?

[steady sail]

use google authenticator, create hard passwords, dont use the same password at every site

[frozen drift]

I don't use same password at every site anymore, in fact my own passwords are complicated and I can't remember all of them now, I just save it in a notepad. I will do google authenticator for my discord now as well. I've received advise that I should reinstall windows but I simply cannot do it in the near future as I am using my laptop for my master's studies. It will be a while since I am completely free to do fresh installation. What I do know is that my emails seem to be completely fine as my SNS accounts are constantly being compromised but I can immediately rescecure them via my emails.

[steady sail]

get a usb-ssd put all of your needed apps/stuff on it reinstall laptop

External-ssd

[frozen ingot]

yeah these smartphone batteries aren't depleting fast enough already

[steady sail]

why not 480hz mobile screen

oh thanks steam lol

[frozen drift]

Would it be a bad idea if I throw everything onto my gmail cloud and reformat and redownload from cloud?

[steady sail]

if u have enough storage for everything sure if no no

[frozen drift]

Yeah I think no issues as it is all compressed. By the way, assuming that all this happened because I clicked on shady links and got all my SNS compromised. Usually, wouldn't my emails be the one that is a complete goner first to ensure that my accounts cannot be re-secured by me? My accounts got hacked and I just go onto my emails and I can immediately re-secure them anyway. What is the logical explanation for this...? This makes no sense.

[vagrant pagoda]

they arent useful

source have one

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maH6KZ0YkXU

[tribal dirge]

Chiplets on top of chiplets?

[ashen spindle]

no

[tribal dirge]

Hmm, gimme the TLDR

[frozen drift]

Nah, it's basically the chiplets are placed very close-by each other and they use physical copper wires instead of serializer/deserializer to connect the chiplets together, resulting in better energy efficiency and lower latency + improved bandwidth. At the expense of reduced flexibility in packaging and much more complexity in packaging

[ashen spindle]

different packaging to replace serdes with fanout packaging

[tribal dirge]

So kinda like how Apple fuses 2 M4 maxes together to make an M4 ultra?

[ashen spindle]

no

[frozen drift]

I have no idea. But it's basically what @ashen spindle just mentioned

[tribal dirge]

OUHHHHH

Wait that's actually smart

[ashen spindle]

well its more that its expensive

[frozen drift]

Actually explains why the flow Z13 is so much more expensive, we really don't know how impressive certain techs are behind the scene

[ashen spindle]

no its not the reason stxh is expensive, packaging doesnt add hundreds in cost

[tribal dirge]

Just wait until high NA EUV makes it into consumer chips, the cost is gonna increase significantly

[ashen spindle]

not really more than normal

[tribal dirge]

Yes it's only used for like a few exposures, but those few exposures are gonna be super expensive

[frozen drift]

Hmmm true also, like we are not going go convince ourselves that the strix halo cost alone is significantly more than a RTX 4060/4070 mobile GPU + intel core 14th gen i7/i9 mobile CPUs..

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter if the exposure costs more when your cpu chiplet costs like 30$ to make

[frozen drift]

What are exposure costs?

[ashen spindle]

the cost of the tool used for the exposure steps in lithography

[frozen drift]

What does this statement from you mean? Does cpu chiplet manufacturing costs here include the lithography equipment cost or nah?

[ashen spindle]

what I mean is that the cost to make a Zen cpu chiplet is like 25$ so if the tools get more expensive it will increase the prices but even if you double the cost, it wouldnt make a 500$ cpu cost 1000$

[tribal dirge]

One thing I did notice is that the physical interconnect looks very similar to that of what Apple uses for their M4 ultra

Just smaller

[frozen drift]

Yeah make sense, prices don't scale linearly

[ashen spindle]

you mean m2 ultra?

m3 ultra is monolithic and m4 ultra isnt a thing

[frozen drift]

Actually, I'm curious but does anyone here wishes for AMD mobile GPU + intel mobile CPU combination for laptops just because they don't feel like supporting nvidia? I mean AMD laptop CPUs are very good but I want intel CPUs just because of thunderbolt support lol(albeit I'm fully aware that AMD CPU supports USB 4, but TB5 is a thing now).

[ashen spindle]

no because thats not happening

[tribal dirge]

yeah mb

[crimson wigeon]

Didn't they try this once years ago?

[vagrant pagoda]

tb5 iisn't faster

[ashen spindle]

amd is going to push for APUs they arent going to make mobile gpus a priority

[frozen drift]

It is in fact faster. Until USB 4 can adopt PCIe 4.0 X4

[tribal dirge]

this is honestly the way, it works very well for Apple

[frozen drift]

Yeah and I'm wondering if AMD is ever going back to making laptop GPUs

[ashen spindle]

m2 ultra is using a a silicon bridge as interconnect its not a direct connection

[tribal dirge]

ah

[ashen spindle]

no reason for them

[vagrant pagoda]

usb4 has 120gbit

[frozen drift]

All USB 4 on laptop is still running on PCIe 3.0 X4 right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[vagrant pagoda]

apple

apple supports tb5 and usb4 at 120gbit

[frozen drift]

Oh, i don't know anything about apple, I was specifically talking about windows based laptop(mostly gaming laptops).

[vagrant pagoda]

apple is the only tb5 out that works well

only thing 5 added was the 120/40 mode

its the same 80/80 as tb4

[frozen drift]

I didn't know apple supports thunderbolt connection lol.

[vagrant pagoda]

they were the first

[frozen drift]

Thunderbolt 5 uses PCIe 4.0 X4, as opposed to TB4's PCIe 3.0 X4

[frozen drift]

TB4 is 40/40... no?

[vagrant pagoda]

ment usb4

[frozen drift]

USB 4 is confusing because it has a lot of variant lol.

[vagrant pagoda]

and thunderbolt was literally invented for apple

bboth Intel and and only have 40gbit, you have to use a secondary controller for 80, like JHL9580

which works with amd or intel

only apple has 80gbps support on die

[frozen drift]

The new generations of gaming laptops using intel CPUs has thunderbolt 5 support with the 80/80 or 120/40 support, no?

[vagrant pagoda]

they are using JHL9580 or JHL9480

which works on amd too

[frozen drift]

I'm very sure it's the full thunderbolt 5 speeds on the new generation of laptops

[vagrant pagoda]

yes it isn't on die

[digital cliff]

why not

[vagrant pagoda]

its using a controller connected via pcie

[ashen spindle]

because they can just make bigger apus instead of supporting a separate market, chasing OEM integration etc.

[frozen drift]

Meaning what? Apple's chips don't need those specific controllers because their chips are engineered to use TB connections directly, whereas intel/AMD chips need to use those controllers?

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

[digital cliff]

what is apu exactly

[ashen spindle]

cpu+gpu in one

[vagrant pagoda]

there is nothing stopping amd laptops from having usb4 80

other than there isn't enough market

[digital cliff]

i thought you just called them cpu with an igpu

[ashen spindle]

yeah thats an APU

[digital cliff]

[vagrant pagoda]

aMD needs to grow balls and make wide as fuck apu like apple

[ashen spindle]

when the gpu is bigger than all of the cpu parts combined its more of a focus than 2 core igpus on desktop

[vagrant pagoda]

apu VS igpu is generally a dedicated class gpu

igpu is weak, less than any dedicated card

apu is a low-mid range dedicsded gpu on package

@astral haven how did it go, did you get gpu workong in Linux apps

my p1600 should be here Monday and im going to try

[tribal dirge]

they probably will at some point, maybe an expansion of the Z series APUs?

[ashen spindle]

lmao z series is the leftovers of normal laptop chips

[tribal dirge]

ah

[vagrant pagoda]

valve is the only one that could get it to happen

wide ass apu for a console

[tribal dirge]

Steamdeck Pro would go so hard

[ashen spindle]

valve got lucky because the steam deck apu came from microsoft

[vagrant pagoda]

nah you wouldn't want wide on mobile

[tribal dirge]

or something along the lines of a Steamdeck Pro adjacent console

[latent mural]

Have any of you guys used both fast cloth (like a raiden mid)/glass? I just wanted to talk personal experiences if so

[vagrant pagoda]

m ultra memory is insane

[tribal dirge]

feels like an air hockey table at times

[latent mural]

I'm considering the jump to glass because I live on the coast and summer is hell, heard humidity is nonexistant and that's the pro w glass (with a sleeve ofc)

[leaden kiln]

I use glass

[latent mural]

Just daunting? The slippy talk has me curious I wouldn't be able to adapt maybe? Stupid questioning, sorry

[vagrant pagoda]

ultra has 1024 bit memory bus

[tribal dirge]

you need very very good fine muscle control to be able to properly use a glass pad.

[tribal dirge]

yeah its crazy

[leaden kiln]

some skates are really slow

[tribal dirge]

crazy crazy SoC

[ashen spindle]

steam deck 2 is most likely going to use the exact same soc as other handhelds the coming gen

[tribal dirge]

it's also just, enormous

[vagrant pagoda]

16 channel basicly

[tribal dirge]

I dont think i've seen an SoC package so big

[latent mural]

Yeah for sure man, thank you for being blunt because I figured that was the consensus. I'll just stick to what I have then, many thanks friend

[vagrant pagoda]

nvidia

[latent mural]

Mainly because during no humidity the raiden is already borderline too slippy for me. I'll just cop a dehumidifier if anything ^_^

[vagrant pagoda]

the real killer would be hbm soc

h200 hmb3e on a soc would be insane

6000 bit wide 4tb/s

AMD has bandwidth issues already on c

[tribal dirge]

a lot of datacenter stuff uses HBM memory

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean only gpus

[tribal dirge]

true

didnt AMD make HBM equipped GPUs for Apple at some point?

it was a long time ago at this point

but I remember it being a thing

[vagrant pagoda]

5c 256c with 512gb of hbm3 could make gpus obsolete with newer ai model

[ashen spindle]

you wont get hbm on cpus because hbm basically has no idle state

also you would need it on package and thats not happening either

even nvidia on their grace cpus uses lpddr instead of hbm because it doesn make sense to use it

[vagrant pagoda]

aMD makes hbe apu for dc

[vagrant pagoda]

intel amd and Nvidia make hbm apus

[ashen spindle]

ehhh the APU aspect of it is kinda dead with ai wanting no cpu tile in it

that for super computers only kinda now

[vagrant pagoda]

and im saying cpu replacement for gpu

it would replace gpus with hbm

[ashen spindle]

no it wouldnt, intel tried that last gen and nobody wanted it

[vagrant pagoda]

bbiggest limit on cpu inference is memory

[vagrant pagoda]

intel e cores suck ass, zen5c is MILES better

[ashen spindle]

wasnt e cores was full p cores

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but you want e cores for it

56c isn't enough to need hbm

128c zen5 will saturate 12 channel

[ashen spindle]

you're just adding so much cost and limiting what it can be used for, minimal gain I dont see the benefit

12800 mrdimm will be more htan enough for zen6

[vagrant pagoda]

im mean modern gpus are set for only ai

with arms race for more memory

[ashen spindle]

yeah but why make cpus enter that race with the tinies of advantage in one field instead of just making your gpu better

[vagrant pagoda]

hmb as l4 could make cpu much more competitive

[vagrant pagoda]

pice limits ram-hbm transfers, which is why nvllink is so good

[ashen spindle]

idk I dont see the benefit of it

[frozen drift]

what chip is this?

[tribal dirge]

M1 or M2 ultra

[frozen drift]

Just out of curiosity(only for those who owns gaming laptop/laptops), which brand laptop do you all use? Actually even if desktop builders want to answer, you can tell me which companies you like(especially MOBO/GPU brands). I am currently using acer predator and it's not too bad at all, but in the future I may switch to lenovo as many people seems to think highly of lenovo.