🔌│tech

[sudden imp]

It’s a novel idea called indentured servitude

[frozen ingot]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/09/samsung-forces-ads-onto-fridges-is-a-bad-sign-for-other-appliances/

[vapid ruin]

Waow

[frozen ingot]

should samsung get comfortable with not selling fridges

[reef patrol]

Just wait till your Sumsang phones start showing ads - or your NVMEs

[unkempt lake]

i have a samsung fridge

but its not smart it has no screen

idk who the fuck buys a smart fridge

[frozen ingot]

not like I needed more reasons to avoid anything samsung but they keep giving me new ones

[pastel galleon]

just saw a Sapphire B850A review

it has a cool looking UEFI

[frozen ingot]

ya'll got any suggestions for a $50-100ish gpu, need a discrete card for a linux desktop

[umbral heron]

For encoding A310
Basically if you go for Intel or AMD GCN3 or newer Mesa has you covered

[reef patrol]

Haha wow... Windows N saga reaches a new low.

Webcams don't work. At all. Time to see if I can do an in place upgrade. Yeeticus

[rough osprey]

the N stands for No (to whatever feature you want)

[reef patrol]

You ain't wrong.

[frozen ingot]

don't really need anything particularly powerful, should be 4K video capable but that's about it

whatevers the easiest to get running with drivers is a bonus

[umbral heron]

Then A310
Is not powerful card for gaming, but beast in video and is cheap
And Intel has the best GPU drivers on Linux imo

[frozen ingot]

would probably work fine but its close to $140 at retailers here atm

I don't mind if its used/older gen tbh if its cheap enough

[umbral heron]

RX5600 maybe then?

[leaden kiln]

Aren’t alchemist drivers cooked
I returned my card because you couldn’t do hw encode on the xe drivers, only i915
Unless intel changed their mind

[umbral heron]

To be fair if you have recent CPU then iGPU will handle 4k no problem

[frozen ingot]

I have a 2700x cpu for it already but sadly no igpu

[umbral heron]

My coworker has it, says he didn't had any problems

[frozen ingot]

would have gone that route otherwise

[umbral heron]

Some used RX 5xxx/6xxx should be in price range, and amdgpu driver is really good

[rough osprey]

lol the apple magsafe battery for the iphone air is just using a iphone air battery 😭

[warm ore]

GT 1030

[frozen ingot]

found a 1050ti for $80ish but if amd is better supported I'd probably favor that

[umbral heron]

Yeah... Nvidia drivers before 16xx/2xxx are... miserable

Had "pleasure" to use 1070Ti with older driver
Never again

[ashen spindle]

nothing beats intels quicksync implementations and the idle is also the best so a cheap intel chip with igpu is usually the best if you dont need a full on gpu

[leaden kiln]

referring to this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/xe/kernel/-/issues/234

Don’t know if anything changed since then but it’s still open

[frozen ingot]

I feel like the GT 710/730/1030 will still be available new in like 30 years

[umbral heron]

I'm gonna read, thanks

[frozen ingot]

they so slow and underspecced though its not really worth it unless maybe you got it for free

like worse than most igpus made in the past decade

[umbral heron]

Pretty sure that 8th gen+ Intel iGPU would be better

[warm ore]

Well then find something that fits all your requirements :)

[umbral heron]

5600XT is around $80 used here, that'll do great

[frozen ingot]

tbh it would probably do since its not for gaming but they're still almost $100 new here

[frozen ingot]

I'll keep a look out thnx

[umbral heron]

Oh, RX5xx are also GCN4, so no problem with drivers there
And they will be really cheap

[reef patrol]

Gotta appreciate good loading bar.

"Looking for Windows Updates" at 100% for 10mins now

[frozen ingot]

in the future it never stops updating

windows realtime updating the entire time you're using it

[reef patrol]

"Please be aware that WINDOWS 11 has certain minimum requirements that exceed those of WINDOWS 11 - Click here for more information"

[warm ore]

Actually thanks for reminder, will need to check if there are any new manual updates i would like to install.

[umbral heron]

In the future Windows is streamed to you from Internet to a thin client you've bought straight from Microsoft
Oh wait! https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/19/microsoft_windows_365_link/

[frozen ingot]

not long now until w11 gets forced on us w10 users

[warm ore]

It's all g, this version will be supported a while longer even after official ends.

[frozen ingot]

lowkey miss my fb account just for the marketplace

the only good thing about fb

[lyric hatch]

Microsoft loves stretching out that end of support date

I'm holding out til my next upgrade

[rough osprey]

https://fixupx.com/rjeytech/status/1968770039093281222?s=46

Rjey (@RjeyTech)

What's the iPhone AIR made of?
︀︀
︀︀This phone is indestructible.

**💬 41 🔁 28 ❤️ 599 👁️ 57.7K **

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FixupX · Sep 18, 2025, 8:12 PM

idk i could trust that phone

[lyric hatch]

Titanium frames are pretty strong

[rough osprey]

the hammer 😭

[frozen ingot]

am lowkey considering the paid w10 security update program just to avoid 11

[frozen ingot]

tim apple woulda never let the engineers live down another iphone bendgate incident

[umbral heron]

That's a nice cool thing they've added recently

[rough osprey]

they using recycled nokia phones i heard

to make it

[pastel galleon]

on linux?

[umbral heron]

yup

[pastel galleon]

Oh yeah back then I was still using windows 10

8700K and 1070 Ti, nice chonker of a system back then

could run basically anything back then

then 13700K and 3080 Ti, then 9800X3D and 9070 XT

had issues with the 13700K with BSODs and 3080 Ti with DSC, alt tab blackscreens, latency, stutters (because the monitor was running at 359.98Hz which is a big deal if you play GD like me, 359.98Hz and 360FPS look bad)

9070 XT actually solved all of those issues and I mean I got a performance, VRAM, and efficiency upgrade

[vapid ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhzKXjwC8vE

hmmm, minecraft's physics mod could use this

[pale sigil]

Same, I miss those days

[dull hollow]

@tribal dirge welp kinda need to buy the current ipad pro as education discount ends on the 30th or id have to wait till next aug/sep which atp is like an infinite loop

unfortunate

[unkempt lake]

what were you doing that was running out of vram with 12gb

[pale sigil]

Spider man 2

Oh NVM 12gb

Unless they are playing 4k I guess

[ashen spindle]

he didnt mention he was running out of vram?

[atomic dragon]

First gaming sleeve bought and I'm out here gliding like Von

[pastel galleon]

I wasn't running out of it, I just happened to get an extra 4GB

[unkempt lake]

Ysah i misread

[ashen spindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1nji0wh/vbios_crossflash_for_rdna4_via_software_now/ oh neat for any non xt owner or someone with lower power vbios

[pastel galleon]

all good

[tribal dirge]

Yeah lol

[pastel galleon]

I wanted a decently small, minimal (no gamer shroud design, no RGB), 3x8 pin GPU, so the Prime OC version was the way to go

I just really love the look of it, the pictures of the Prime OC don't do it justice

also it had to be small enough to fit in my next build: T1

[unkempt lake]

My main issue with that card is no ptm7950

-.-

[bright briar]

9080 xt will come out you seen it here first

https://tenor.com/view/vsauce-tinfoil-hat-funny-gif-8160745101269840890

[pastel galleon]

we love vsauce

[lunar elm]

time to learn and DIY

[unkempt lake]

shouldnt be a thing on a card this pricey

literally ptm7950 should be the standard xd

[lunar elm]

asus problem

[unkempt lake]

assus

i should get around to ptming 7950 my 7900xtx

but my hotspots are still technically fine despite having degraded in my 2 years of ownership

and the card is quiet so...

69edge 93hotspot

typycal xtx pump out xd

when i first got the card i'd run at the same rpm and get like 83c hotspot but the same edge temp of 69 xd

cuz i just cap my fan at 1600rpm in my fan curve because its basically inaudible while providing enough cooling

ill like take care of it someday i guess

[lunar elm]

I havent been stressing above 300w at all recently, my fans are just stuck at 1100rpm waiting for the day I start gamin again

[unkempt lake]

well yeah if you do nothing then nothing will happen

[lunar elm]

i mean, people with other gpus would be spinning like 50% at 300w lmao

ive given up on this auto zero rpm mode

[unkempt lake]

@lunar elm what card

im generally pulling 390-415w on my xtx

when gaming

[lunar elm]

i put an undervolt and a 75% PL, both combined rn only lets me use 360w

Remove that undervolt and its 450w

[unkempt lake]

I'm undervolted to like 1120mv (yeah i know my card's not the best uver lol) but i didn't lower my power limit, didn't feel like losing perf

[lunar elm]

1.1v is quite high for a UV ngl

Im at like 0.875v

[unkempt lake]

wagain what card are you running

[unkempt lake]

most xtxs run in that range xd

[lunar elm]

i need to check my 9079xt UV value

the most I can get is -100 depending on game

-80 is stable for all

[unkempt lake]

completely different cards

[dull hollow]

+10% power limit

[lunar elm]

i mean my 9070xt gets within 5% of stock at UV’d 230w (-30% PL)

[dull hollow]

395w peak was the highest i got my 9070xt to

[dusky nova]

computers are so complicated and evil

[unkempt lake]

like 1100-1130 is generally the uv range for an xtx

if you're lucky you ccan take it lower

[dull hollow]

[dusky nova]

i miss rdna2 and being able to edit whatever you want in powerplay

[steady sail]

[lunar elm]

like, transient spike or the power limit

my 9070xt PL is +10% to 364w

it spiked to 440w once

[unkempt lake]

stock being 1155

[dull hollow]

it was during 3dmark steel nonad

it can usually just stay at 375

[lunar elm]

which model

[dull hollow]

~70c average tho hotspot is probably low-mid 90

[dull hollow]

gigabyte aorus

[lunar elm]

my hotspot was 88c

[dull hollow]

i used @unkempt lake ‘s fan curves

[lunar elm]

but my room is quite hot without AC since im singaporean

i did in fact blast fans at max

[dusky nova]

arent most singaporean flats lowk deathboxes as well

lacking in ventilation

[dull hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1350338876090224721/1352480424508657664/image.png?ex=68ce1c0d&is=68ccca8d&hm=51559d02da73261df6feb1d2e3bb03e0243b42162b5a0485655d5f147a69f179&

[dull hollow]

well if the heats not on your gpus its in the air in your room

[lunar elm]

so the PL no transient spike is 375w for ur model?

[dull hollow]

yeah

since default the card is 340w

[lunar elm]

my room temp at night is still in the high 20s

[dull hollow]

i havent really pushed it in terms of stress tests like steel nomad

do have a comparison between default pl and +10%

[lunar elm]

idk i only tested timespy

34.1k is the highest ive got

i think theres still some performance left on the table since my ambient room temp is high, without AC

[dull hollow]

now i js need to wait for the screen protector, wireless keyboard and the folio case

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[vapid ruin]

Bye bye money

[dull hollow]

i chose the melgeek o2 and a moft folio (free pen holder )

only reason i went for the o2 is the silent switches, tons of other low profile mech wireless

does sound silent in tests ive found but it wasnt being compared to anything so only way to find out is when it gets here

[vapid ruin]

Umu, enjoy your tablet

[dull hollow]

hey at least i got 220$ off the ipad+pencil with education savings

[lyric hatch]

Think education discount works differently here it doesn't end and requires 0 verification

[dull hollow]

it ends on the 30th but they didn’t ask for any verification

[lyric hatch]

Did you get engravings

[dull hollow]

no lol

[dull hollow]

id probably put some dumbass shit there if i did

[lyric hatch]

Just need one of these

[tribal dirge]

NICEEEEEE

literally one of the best note taking devices ever created

full stop

[dull hollow]

if apples keyboard wasnt $350 or even $250 after the discount id consider it but like

no bro

[dull hollow]

i ordered the folio case for the wrong ipad
its currently 1am and im waiting for them to either cancel it or swap it out for the right one since its the same price

i feel dumb as shit

[tribal dirge]

Rip

13 inch or 11 inch iPad that you got?

[magic minnow]

Did you get the etched glass iPad?

[digital cliff]

did you consider pen and paper for 5 bucks

[umbral heron]

But can you update software on your ink pen? Don't think so

[unkempt lake]

It really depends on what your need is

And the context

Being able to sync your notes automatically on all your devices and never lose anything is well

Nice

The main appeal honestly

My dumbass has lost too many handwritten notes in my life

If i went back to uni again i'd def buy myself one of these

I love taking notes and I always end up losing my handwritten ones or misplacing SOMETHING and then looking for it for ages

[umbral heron]

100€ laptop or tablet will do the same
For drawing? Yeah, great device
For just taking notes? Like... come on...

[unkempt lake]

That's also true yes they can do the job

[magic minnow]

I’m a pen and paper type of person. I bought an iPad for my first semester of college and just ended up giving it to my sister

[unkempt lake]

But see drawing is cool

[umbral heron]

Sure
And if you are drawing - great buy
But just for taking notes it's a... no...

[unkempt lake]

how about... BOTH

[umbral heron]

Also a good buy

I mean
Maybe not Pro
It has M-chip... and no software

It feels kinda like buying a Ferrari, but you can only use first gear and reverse

[unkempt lake]

@umbral heron i sometimes think about grabbing an ipad, my old ipad mini 3 i used for years as a youtube machinr is kinda struggling lol

It's from well 11 years ago so

i should probably consider grabbing a new tablet at some point

but then again there's good options on the android side too

But also i'm like what about a folding phone having once device for everything sounds awesome

[unkempt lake]

If it's just for youtube all i need is a decent screen tbh

Sorry about my ramblings

[umbral heron]

Folding phone
I don't really think I would need a tablet right now

[unkempt lake]

like i feel like a folding phone would really suit me

I just can't justify it tho

Current phone works

[magic minnow]

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-tri-fold-us-launch-3599233/

[halcyon moss]

i have had 2 tablets, and barely used them..

it doesnt fill a need for me, i have a phone and a laptop

[lyric hatch]

ipad is cool for editing photos on, screen is better than pretty much any monitor

and packs light

[umbral heron]

But calibrated 10-bit IPS is still cheaper than iPad

[unkempt lake]

Only laptop in my house is my old gaming laptop from like 2014

I7 5700HQ and GTX 970M

and its not really used much lol

[lyric hatch]

aint gonna look like a tandem oled though

[halcyon moss]

what is this tandem hype?

[umbral heron]

So... just RGBB instead of RGBW?

[halcyon moss]

oh its a panel making it more bright

[umbral heron]

Why Tandem and not 🅱️OLED

[lyric hatch]

It's a lot cooler then that

https://www.oled-info.com/stacked-oleds-past-present-and-bright-future-multi-layer-displays

[umbral heron]

Yup, blue tends to make picture look cooler

[lunar elm]

cant wait to get flashed in valorant

[lyric hatch]

Basically brighter, more durable against burn in and more efficient power wise

[umbral heron]

Aaaah, so essentially what Matt did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibEN9FTLdkI

[lyric hatch]

Yeah but not scuffed, better and fits in one of these

[umbral heron]

Apart from drawing I don't really see appeal of tablets

[nimble arch]

I hear they're great for watching "anime" in bed

[lyric hatch]

Would be a nice RuneScape and photo editing device for trips

My MacBook is like 2kg and it makes me not want to take it with me

[nimble arch]

Truuue

OSRS farming never stops

[umbral heron]

Stem Dek

[steady sail]

i have to build up a emulator library

[nimble arch]

Today is AirPods Pro 3 day!

[umbral heron]

Do you want last version of yuzu/Ryujinx?

[nimble arch]

My delivery is at the local depot, now I just need to wait.

[steady sail]

👀 uhm yeah

[umbral heron]

Okay
I'll send them once I'm home

[steady sail]

As i wanna use the steam deck for emulators mainly

[magic minnow]

DO NOT! Steal from Nintendo

[umbral heron]

Too late, already sent them

[nimble arch]

Nintendo lawyers are en route as we speak

[umbral heron]

And we shall welcome them

[devout raptor]

2 weeks delivery day

[nimble arch]

I am delivery 43 for this courier. Soon™

[finite spoke]

Hi guys, pretty new here... Where would I ask about Switches? Just a small debate kinda thing (struggling to pick my new switches for custom 60he)

[lunar elm]

go for the standard lekker v2 if on a budget else i recommend geon raws personally

[finite spoke]

I've been looking at Neo Lavender, Jade Pro/Max and Geon Raws

I'll pick up some Tikken's when they drop alongside a V2 60HE, but I like a deeper thockier profile

And my current handlubed original Jade's are just not cutting it for me now

[umbral heron]

Blep https://wootingmods.com/switchguide/

[finite spoke]

Merci

[digital cliff]

this is outdated though

sno is slacking

[umbral heron]

Praying to the lens church

[nimble arch]

Steal his lenses until the page is updated

[umbral heron]

I just need a nice 50mm lens and then I'll be playing with vintage lenses

[hidden sundial]

OH MY LORD that is the craziest thing ive seen someone do for a support brace

[steady sail]

Everything is stolen already

[nimble arch]

24/43

Soon™

[nimble arch]

Let’s go

[dull hollow]

13

[nimble arch]

Much more bass than the original AirPods Pro. Huge ANC improvements.

I am happy after one song.

10/10 would recommend.

[leaden kiln]

https://youtu.be/JTP0naEO-LA

[dull hollow]

no lmao, not paying for 1tb storage just to get a different texture glass

[magic minnow]

You have betrayed Tim Cook

[dull hollow]

[vapid ruin]

watched this, seems like it'll adjust itself so that the treble is just at the point where it's comfy

[tribal dirge]

I have Japanese stationary to take notes but having an iPad to markup things like PowerPoints and PDFs is super nice to have.

[tribal dirge]

Niceeeee

[tribal dirge]

Adaptive EQ at its finest

It's very cool how the Adaptive EQ works

It's also why AirPods are hard to measure

And that any frequency response graphs you see of AirPods should be basically thrown out the window

[umbral heron]

So Adaptive EQ can't be turned off? If so then I hope no one does any audio editing on them

[nimble arch]

The iPhone, Watch Ultra, and AirPods Pro combination is what keeps me in the ecosystem.

Tim Apple stealing tons of my money

[tribal dirge]

You can't. Because 99% of people buying AirPods will not notice its effects.

[magic minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/xxiisoul-thanos-gif-23843096

[nimble arch]

https://tenor.com/view/renuu-thanos-rest-peaceful-gif-20831938

How it feels to use all three of those devices

[tribal dirge]

It does really just work

[digital cliff]

works to make you poor af at any rate

[sudden imp]

Are these the new ones?

[nimble arch]

Yes

[devout raptor]

apple watch is pretty useless

the economy and world itself is doomed anyway so who cares

[sudden imp]

ANC better than the pro 2’s?

[nimble arch]

I'm going from Pro 1 to Pro 3

But yes, huge improvements to the ANC.

Using the M sized tip on both models.

[sudden imp]

hmmm, maybe when I have to upgrade I should snag some

I have the pro 2’s and they have served me very well

[nimble arch]

A friend of mine has picked up Pro 3 despite having Pro 2 already.

[sudden imp]

I wonder is the upgrade actually noticeable?

Main thing I’d be interested in is better ANC

[digital cliff]

i'm reminded when I upgraded my wireless earbuds to 2 revisions newer and they sucked so I sold them and went back to the old ones

[lunar elm]

ive been runnin my pro 2s for like almost 3 years now debating if i wanna upg

[old marlin]

I feel like someone did not understand the tech

keychron Q16 marketing btw

[vapid ruin]

WTF

[umbral heron]

Ah yes, faster key presses result in faster key presses, thanks Keychron

[old marlin]

obv HE switches just have more hysteresis

which most mechanical switches nowadays straight up don't have

[reef patrol]

It does look like that doesn't it, hah.

[lunar elm]

for the price of a iPhone 17 Pro Max 2TB you can get a 5090

think about it

[vapid ruin]

HMM

Either I can buy a device I can use to talk to AI waifu, or a thing that can run my AI waifu

but 256 or even 512gb is all I need

[vagrant pagoda]

its wild grok wifu is Apple only

ypud think android users would be a bigger market for wifus

[lunar elm]

sorry to disappoint but I know my waifus are fictional

spend money on a family ❌
spend money on a car and engine swap in 10k+ RPM engine ✅

[sudden imp]

I’m suprised because that actually kinda looks cool

[reef patrol]

I don't... hate it? The camera area sticking out that much is ridic though. But pine green and copper is a pretty solid colour combo.

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-i-like-the-stock-i-like-it-i-like-it-alot-i-like-that-gif-10632380168135068679

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/ae86-toyota-trueno-takumi-anime-gif-16443262

[dull hollow]

ls swap
5 rotary swap

[lunar elm]

im thinkin of either a GT86 or S2k

but damn singapore car prices

[dull hollow]

US market for JDM is basically just

https://tenor.com/view/broke-poor-money-wallet-empty-gif-7985382

the gt/gr/frs/brz exists tho and probably one of the most popular among with the 350/370z

[vagrant pagoda]

import one

[dull hollow]

infiniti q series are more beater/takeover cars

[vagrant pagoda]

the tarrifs are back down

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

id probably get a chaser or s15 if i had the option to 👀

[dull hollow]

no crazy widebodies, just lowered on nice wheels

[bright briar]

family is temporary. Car is forever

https://tenor.com/view/robot-chicken-hydraulic-car-lowrider-mario-luigi-gif-17280184510808403296

[lunar elm]

10 years here

then need renew COE

[dull hollow]

a good s15 chassie with no rust is 30 grand

[bright briar]

the problems of life cant get you if you drive fast enough

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-22098603

[dull hollow]

ive calculated my cost of living and my current balance
i think i can retire now if i just die tomorrow

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-and-furious-quarter-mile-vin-diesel-gif-14825614

[sudden imp]

I wasn’t say you hated it lol. I’m just surprised it turned out really cool.

[reef patrol]

You misunderstand.

[vagrant pagoda]

mint jdm are under 10k

so like 15k landed in us

[lunar elm]

fax

[reef patrol]

It's just an english saying, it isn't directed at anyone specifically.

"You know - I don't hate it. It's actually pretty good"

[vagrant pagoda]

30 gets you high trim ones

[dull hollow]

dont even need to look at the skylines or soupras

[vagrant pagoda]

those aren't s15

im talking like spec-r

[sudden imp]

OH! I use that all the time. Sorry sometimes it’s hard to understand meaning from text. Largest struggle with the internet age lol.

[lunar elm]

ah yes 5070Ti my fav pcie powered card

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/ZUX3z-7u7Ak?si=PXxBv-0NQvrNiT2G

[gusty kiln]

xbox ally is rumoured arond 899-999

probably going to be the cheapest Z2E handheld

[ashen spindle]

people will be shocked when steam deck 2 isnt cheap

[sudden imp]

You you think I pay tariff? Noooo you pay tariff!

[umbral heron]

Will be cheaper than other handhelds
Valve subsidized Deck in hope to get more Steam users, and boy, did it work
Wouldn't be surprised if they did it again

[sudden imp]

Steam deck is really cool and honestly it seems to be no more expensive than a switch

If I’m in the market again for a handheld imma get a deck

[ashen spindle]

we dont know that, we just know the price point was painfull, but we dont know if is low/no/negative margins

also the hardware will still cost more so even if they do the same amount of margins, prices will still be up

[umbral heron]

Of course, it won't be as cheap as Deck 1
But we can assume for it to be still cheaper than most of the other handhelds

[ashen spindle]

maybe, depends what hardware they go for

if they want something custom it will be super expensive

[nimble arch]

Given that it's probably still another year or two away, I don't think a $70-100 USD increase would be the end of the world.

[ashen spindle]

wouldnt expect just 100usd more depending on what they go with

mostly because they said they want actual hardware progress before a new version and its unlikely they get lucky and get another cheap chip like van gogh that microsoft discarded

[unkempt lake]

yet people will still whine about the switch 2 price

[ashen spindle]

yes because that price is bad

[unkempt lake]

No the price is perfectly reasonable for what you're getting

[ashen spindle]

no its not

[lunar elm]

i think the device itself price is dogshit
but combine it with the game pricing and i consider it ewaste

[unkempt lake]

Literally around how much i spent on the deck lcd + a docking station

[lunar elm]

ah yes sell last 2 year's tech for next year's prices

[digital cliff]

and you got a device so much better it's not even funny

[ashen spindle]

5 year old*

[unkempt lake]

The switch 2 beats the steam deck xD

In raw power

[umbral heron]

Hardware is... not good, display sucks, and there's no games on it
No, 3 games up until now and 1 more each month is not enough
Even Virtual Boy had 14 games on release...

[digital cliff]

okay but that's not what I meant at all

[unkempt lake]

Display is better than my lcd steam deck i can tell you that much

[umbral heron]

And Nintendo can ban your console for whatever

[digital cliff]

yeah point is more like it's worthless because there's no games on it and the games you do get are bankrupting you

[lunar elm]

nobody hates nintendo fans more than nintendo themselves

[unkempt lake]

Technically there's plenty of third party games I just happen to play them on another platform

[lunar elm]

"fuck you"
"fuck you too"
"fuck you very much"

[unkempt lake]

switch 1 had way less games at launch

Switch 2 launch is pretty nice, 1 game a month is fine + i've been picking up some others like silksong

[lunar elm]

nintendo ownership is way more expensive than smth like a steam deck

[umbral heron]

Switch one had a system killer, BotW, a 10/10 amazing game
MKW nor DK Bananza is not a system killer, nowhere near BotW

[unkempt lake]

Botw which i could buy on my wii u

[ashen spindle]

also the switch isnt even beating the deck in raw power either...

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle this guy cracks me up

[ashen spindle]

its very much dependent on targeted builds and specific games

[unkempt lake]

Try playing SW outlaws on deck lol

[fickle ore]

he posted in on truth social lmfao

[crimson wigeon]

Meme president

[umbral heron]

One game on Steam, maybe 20~30€
One game on Switch 2 - 80€
Consoles may be cheaper to entry
But are so much more expensive in long run

[fickle ore]

Thing is they dont make good games for PC anymore, havent for 10 yrs

So console still prob better

[unkempt lake]

Paid the same price for silksong as it is on steam

[ashen spindle]

okay now play persona 4 for the 4 hours on switch2 vs 7 on steam deck

[lunar elm]

in the steam deck's defense its using an APU and doesnt have every game made specifically to run on it unlike the S2 lmfao

[unkempt lake]

Persona 4 is a switch 1 game

[ashen spindle]

so?

[umbral heron]

One game
Almost if there was an exception to every rule

[unkempt lake]

Hades is also the same price on switch as pc

Plenty of good indie titles for cheap

[nimble arch]

Console and PC pricing is pretty much identical across the board here in the UK

[ashen spindle]

You showed me game as example I showed one game as example

[unkempt lake]

Your example makes no sense

[ashen spindle]

Also nobody even mentioned the switch it wasn’t even part of the topic you just inserted it to defend it for no reason???

[umbral heron]

Now let's try on Steam discount vs Nintendo eShop discount

[ashen spindle]

If the hardware was just better you’d be able to run it for longer on the switch?

Because efficiency would be up

[unkempt lake]

I got octopath for cheaper on eshop than on steam

[lunar elm]

you would think being in a specific ecosystem should be somewhat "cheaper" than one thats more global with a vary wide variety of options lapping the switch- yea no

fuck you nintendo fans

-sincerely, nintendo

[unkempt lake]

Because square's pricing is ass on pc

Was 39.99 on steam during the steam sale and 31.99 on eshop

I even posted about it

[lunar elm]

im not gonna take a nintendo shill seriously

[magic minnow]

But cartridge

[unkempt lake]

Technically you could buy a used cart too yes

And you can resell that game

[umbral heron]

And get banned

[unkempt lake]

Ah yes the 1 case on reddit

Which got unbanned

[ashen spindle]

Also on today’s agenda: how to spot a Nintendo shill? They will defend Nintendo when nobody even mentioned or thought about Nintendo

[unkempt lake]

I got banned on steam for credit card fraud by mistake before snd locked out of my steam account

Took 15 days to get unbanned

Valve ain't perfect either

If you want cases of valve fucking up i experienced that myself lol

[ashen spindle]

Nobody has argued that point either

[unkempt lake]

Cals just argued account bans

You don't own shit on steam either

Is my point

All it takes is a mistake and you're fucked

[ashen spindle]

Nobody argued in favor of valve being flawless or anything?

[lunar elm]

yet nintendo has the way worse reputation
because objectively they are shit

[unkempt lake]

I'm pointing out that shit's not exceptional

[umbral heron]

Well, opposite to Switch you own Steam Deck
Even if you get banned from Steam that nothing changes, you can still use it as you could

[ashen spindle]

“Others do bad stuff so it’s not so bad Nintendo does it too” is an odd point

[unkempt lake]

I literally couldn't even see my library

I was locked out fully

[lunar elm]

steam is a saint compared to whatever shit nintendo does

[umbral heron]

Steam Deck vs Steam Account

If you get banned on Steam you can still use Deck with GOG games for example

Or make new Steam account

No way to do that on Switch, once it's bricked, it's a brick

[unkempt lake]

You can play anything still installed on it

You can play your physical games

I couldn't even do that with my steam ban xD

[umbral heron]

But you can't install nothing new
You can't use it as you want

[lunar elm]

gaben has been doing shit like boats for scientific research and what has nintendo's ass done? file for patents to fuck everyone else who already USED that idea- and they are getting it with like no resistance.

[unkempt lake]

why do we care what a millionaire doesnin his spare time

[lunar elm]

like dude ya cant convince me nintendo is the embodiment of evil

[unkempt lake]

Bill gates gave money to african children to build wells, is windows any good?

millionaire does millionaire things

[lunar elm]

even then i can say that whatever steam does is mostly positive towards for the community lmfao

[umbral heron]

Eh...

[lunar elm]

steam deck was built with whatever the latest shit they could get at the time

[ashen spindle]

idk I feel like he has a point, he inserted gabens hobbies that arent relevant just like nintendo was inserted into a conversation where it wasnt relevant

[lunar elm]

the S2 is built on like 5 year old tech

[unkempt lake]

I mean i know stolen steam decks are no longer working so

No lcue how it works for credit card fraud bans

[umbral heron]

WHAT DOES IT HAVE IN COMMON EVEN?!

[unkempt lake]

I'm just asking if we even know what happens

Do we have documented cases?

Not asking about a vac ban

[umbral heron]

it's still a PC, you can still install fresh system

[nimble arch]

Nah, you should be able to brick stolen devices though.

It's my favourite thing about Apple and Find My.

[unkempt lake]

Again idk how they do their bricking is it mac based?

[lunar elm]

Steam support is genuine while nintendo support tells you to go fuck urself tbh

[unkempt lake]

In that case reseting it probably doesn't work

[unkempt lake]

I had to deal with nintendo support 2 months ago and they solved my issue

Withib like 30 mins

[ashen spindle]

you can just install a clean OS on steam deck and nothing is bricked

[umbral heron]

You can spoof MAC...

[unkempt lake]

True...

[nimble arch]

It's serial number based

[ashen spindle]

I really dont understand what sort of bricking you are talking about that would work on a normal pc (steam deck)

[nimble arch]

And you have to be internet connected to fresh install macOS

[ashen spindle]

at best you can limit the steam access

[unkempt lake]

Yeah but steam os is well.... entirely based on that

[ashen spindle]

then use another linux distro or windows

[unkempt lake]

I mean could you install windows? Sure

[umbral heron]

Back to topic at hand
I wonder if they'll go for something similar like Xbox or PS, costs would go down with their volume

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah I expect them to go the same route as xbox handheld, zen6 cpu with small rdna5 chiplet

[lunar elm]

pov its 2030 and nintendo releases the switch 3 but instead of using 5 year old hardware it uses 7 year old hardware instead

[umbral heron]

It's RDNA5 again not UDNA?

[lunar elm]

rdna 5% marketshare target

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

udna never was a thing its marketing name

just means data center is no longer GCN based

just like blackwell consumer and blackwell data center is different still

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

so the base will be the same but you still get matrix cores etc. that wont end up on gaming chips

so you can target the same compile target and in general can have less software divergence

[umbral heron]

Ah, that's nice

Oh also - hope that AMD brings FSR4 to RDNA3 soon, after we now know it works...
Sure INT8 and not FP8, but still

[ashen spindle]

for more details about future hardware, financial analyst day is back in November

[nimble arch]

That’ll take AMD three years and another failed GPU generation to do.

[umbral heron]

So we just use leaked DLL still

[ashen spindle]

probably as part of FSR redstone later this year

[nimble arch]

Game developers aren’t going to do that, however.

[ashen spindle]

Nov 11 for FAD

[nimble arch]

Which is more important than some random Redditor or whatever making a DLL swap.

[umbral heron]

As long as the game has FSR3/3.1/4 it will
It's still official DLL and OptiScaler will replace it

[lunar elm]

Optiscaler on their way to do AMD's job:

[nimble arch]

The real winning strategy would be somehow back porting FSR4 to PS5 and Xbox Series. Then adoption could really pick up.

[umbral heron]

On PS5 it's 6700XT, don't think it'll have enough power to handle FSR4
7800/7900s definitely do

[ashen spindle]

0 chance getting it on xbox

ps5/pro will get a backport aka an updated PSSR

but xbox doesnt have the hardware for it

[distant tapir]

Why does it sound like there's a harddrive in my computer. I hear these annoying buzzing noises a bunch

I'm not even playing a game. Just idling on desktop. I'm guessing it's coil whine

They are horrible to listen to honestly. I want to replace whatever component is doing that

Okay and weirdly enough the sound turns louder when I move the mouse/scroll

I can't tell which component is making it but god damn is it annoying

[warm ore]

Usually graphics card, try to do a stress test and see if you can get it louder and locate it, perhaps take off the side of the case and listen more closely.

[distant tapir]

Can it be the GPU even though the fans aren't spinning?

[warm ore]

Yeah, coil whine has nothing to do with fans

[reef patrol]

What do you use for audio?

[distant tapir]

A wireless headset (Astro A50)

[reef patrol]

Let me rephrase.... what CONNECTION are you using 😛

[distant tapir]

USB

[reef patrol]

Right - So not related to audio chip noise.

[unkempt lake]

@distant tapir has it always done it or is it a recent thing

Coil while on a gpu on desktop sounds... unlikely

are you running anything that uses the gpu like wallpaper engine

[rough osprey]

oh thats normal

[frozen ingot]

its digital noise/interference from various sources in the pc, some degree of it is to be expected these days unfortunately

[umbral heron]

Checking coil noise is quite easy
Try to start some older/lighter game, and make sure to turn the FPS limit off, at around 3000~5000 fps every GPU will whine like crazy

[rough osprey]

doesnt have to be gpu

[frozen ingot]

I think its just high frequency signals period, coil whine is usually severe enough the actual component itself is making noise

[umbral heron]

Yeah, and it most likely won't be
It's just to determine if it's just GPU whine or something else

[rough osprey]

you cant do something about it either way

[frozen ingot]

nope, but its often a source for a lot of it when its working

[umbral heron]

You can download dB meter from App Store and move phone around in PC case

[frozen ingot]

my pc is p much dead silent on desktop but when I fire up a game I get a slight but noticable noise going when the gpu is rendering

[unkempt lake]

The guy's talking about on desktop tho

[unkempt lake]

Could be mobo vrm whine

I had a motherboard have vrm coil whine before, adjusting the llc fixed it

[frozen ingot]

yep its been an issue on the desktop on older rigs I've had

its probably a lot of factors, your mobo, your power supply, your gfx, your audio interface, cables etc

[ashen spindle]

put glue on the capacitor thats causing it

[frozen ingot]

its pretty hard to filter all audible noise crap out on circuits/boards as crowded and complex as a pc motherboard

usually its caps that keeps the noise in check

[distant tapir]

Definitely recent. I don't remember hearing it before

[distant tapir]

Nope

[unkempt lake]

was it after you updated the bios?

If you want to rule out the gpu you could just boot on the igpu

On your cpu

[distant tapir]

It has to be since I never remember hearing it before. But it's the past days I feel like i have really noticed it. It's quite loud

And it's almost constant

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyc_ICM7E_w

[distant tapir]

I don't have speakers until Monday

[frozen ingot]

its probably still a similar issue i.e. dodgy grounding/ground loop

[distant tapir]

Can it be that when I feel like this has only been happing for a week or so? I haven't moved around cables or anything like that

[frozen ingot]

it can be something else you've plugged in on your power grid, or a neighbor even

mains power can get pretty dirty

[distant tapir]

I'll take the sides off and try to locate which component is making the noise

[frozen ingot]

if there's something with a bad power supply plugged in somewhere it can potentially cause phase misalignment/offset to the whole buildings power

for instance here when I fire up my shitty old stovetop it makes every speaker in the flat hum

[distant tapir]

Okay I can confirm it is coming from the GPU

Maybe I can... err... undervolt? Idk

[frozen ingot]

the gpu noise itself isn't the main culprit, all gpus makes these noises, its something else in your setup making it audible to your ears

[distant tapir]

This is going to drive me nuts when my speakers are here since I won't be wearing headphones that block out any sound anymore

[rough osprey]

switch to igpu

[frozen ingot]

its most likely lackluster grounding somewhere in your setup, usually this stuff should be kept out of audible range when things are hooked up properly

[distant tapir]

It's obah

So getting new computer parts which I was planning to either way wouldn't help?

I'm going to get a new case, PSU, CPU cooler and motherboard. And eventually GPU

[frozen ingot]

you can try keeping as much devices plugged into the same outlet as possible, and avoid unnescessary devices being plugged into that same outlet/power line as much as possible

should at least lessen the likelihood of ground loops

[lunar elm]

so basically building a wholeass new pc

[unkempt lake]

A proper ups could help

@distant tapir get a ups

[frozen ingot]

there's also ground loop isolators

[unkempt lake]

With avr

[umbral heron]

Hook up a car battery to molex

[frozen ingot]

an ups would have it built in I reckon

[distant tapir]

Basically

[unkempt lake]

Yep

[distant tapir]

What's ups

[unkempt lake]

Power strip with a big lead battery inside

[frozen ingot]

basically an emergency backup power source

but it also has isolating circuitry etc that mitigates issues like these

[unkempt lake]

box like this

[lunar elm]

Uninterrupted Power Supply iirc

[umbral heron]

You're no fun
Where's your sense of adventure? Your curiosity? Why you don't want to experiment?

[distant tapir]

Looks like your average computer case from 2010

[frozen ingot]

something like a di box/hum destroyer could work also but that only plugs into your speakers/headphones audio path

[distant tapir]

I don't know if I'll want something like that for my speakers yet

[frozen ingot]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/819iS90DGkL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

it basically just plugs in between your amplifier/audio interface and your speakers

doesn't fix the crappy grounding from the source your pc etc gets power from but it will remove the audible crap from your sound

I would try the sticking to one outlet/power line/fuse for your setup first and if that doesn't fix most of it boxes like this are last resort

[frozen ingot]

having been using and setting up audio gear and recording equipment for some 20 years now I've had my fill of shitty grounding experiments for a lifetime and a half

the eternal bane of any electric signal path

[gentle osprey]

I have a 1500VA version of this from APC

Been using it for years, it’s great

[astral haven]

Optical for the win!

[gentle osprey]

Thunderstorms shut your power off?

Not me

[frozen ingot]

sadly my monitors only does analog inputs

[distant tapir]

Mine do both but I'm going with digital

I don't want to have an interface on my desk

[unkempt lake]

Same

[pastel galleon]

hi gang

[frozen ingot]

was considering a hum eliminator a while back but my new rig has much less digital noise issues

did do some power rerouting and made sure the speakers had balanced connections

[astral haven]

I switched to optical to fix analog noise issues

[frozen ingot]

I could technically use the adat i/o on my interface for the master outs but I'd need compatible amp/speakers

couldn't the noise technically creep into the optical signal via the audio interface though? as in ending up in the signal being dac/adc'd and sent to the speakers

[distant tapir]

This is what my speakers are connected to

[frozen ingot]

or does the converters sort those out

got a really old rme recording interface

and equally old yamaha monitors

[digital cliff]

it's your GPU itself making that noise right? and the noise isn't being produced by your earphones?

[distant tapir]

GPU itself yes

Has nothing to do with my audio gear

[digital cliff]

so all this talk about grounding and whatever has no relation

[frozen ingot]

it does

the grounding issue is what causes it to be audible

[digital cliff]

either the PC is grounded or it's not

that goes for the GPU because it's inside the PC

it's not two different components that can have groundloop interference

[frozen ingot]

you can get ground loop issues via other devices connected to the pc

like monitor, speakers, various peripherals etc

[digital cliff]

and that would materialize in the speakers/headphones that are physically connected to the PC, not inside the GPU as coilwhine

[frozen ingot]

well the noise is in the headphones from what I understood

[digital cliff]

no it's literally in the GPU

it's producing the noise like a speaker

into the open air

[frozen ingot]

yes

[digital cliff]

so it's not in the headphones

anyway get your new parts and if the issue is still there we can try stuff but like actual audible coilwhine produced by the GPU itself is just GPU lottery and some amount of PSU shenanigans

[frozen ingot]

reading back it sounded to me like it comes from the headset

but yes coil whine is a different thing

[digital cliff]

undervolt will probably help

[frozen ingot]

but that shouldn't make noises when the harddrive is working

or when moving your mouse cursor

those are typical emi noises

[distant tapir]

Mouse is wireless. Might be useful to know(?)

[frozen ingot]

probably doesn't make much difference to the usb controller once the wireless signal has been converted by the dongle

it interprets it the same as a wired mouse

[digital cliff]

if it is EMI from grounding you should not hear anything if you unplug your monitor from the PC

[frozen ingot]

that's why I recommended plugging in everything associated/connected to the pc to the same outlet

[digital cliff]

or rather anything that is connected both to the wall and the PC

[frozen ingot]

and remove anything else on that outlet that could interfere

[digital cliff]

that will help so long as everything is grounded, which many devices like DACs and stuff aren't

[frozen ingot]

well at least you shouldn't be getting a ground loop that way since that typically happens between two or more outlets

[digital cliff]

ugh, I dunno, it's been super long since I had this issue and I solved it by just going to an optical cable

breaking the electrical connection between DAC and PC

both plugged to same outlet and stuff, but the only way to solve it was to sever them from each other

[astral haven]

Optical is the way

[frozen ingot]

I have an external audio interface via usb so at least its isolated from the motherboard somewhat

but it also has its own psu so thats gotta share outlet with the pc regardless

when the time comes to retire my current audio setup I'll likely go optical

but I've been using the same speakers and audio interface since 2009 and they're still rocking so

rme and yamaha stuff seemingly last forever

[ashen spindle]

I mean I wasnt joking when I said just glue the capacitor down that whines

[unkempt lake]

https://www.theverge.com/news/782079/microsoft-xbox-console-price-increase-us

murica

[rough osprey]

why dont they make them in the us

[shut scroll]

is there any way i can add a macro or function that makes it so that everytime i press or hold down F, it simultaneously holds down the - key too

[analog sinew]

yes, just use dks

[shut scroll]

i am

[analog sinew]

and put both on there

[shut scroll]

i put F - - F and it still doesnt work

[shut scroll]

what abt the other 2 binds

[analog sinew]

well you want only 2 keys not four?

[shut scroll]

oh right

[analog sinew]

like my keyboard typef-s like this now

see the f-

[shut scroll]

OHHHHHHH

[analog sinew]

its f-ucked :D

f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-

[shut scroll]

THANKS YO

alr its still not working

fffffffff

[analog sinew]

the white bar

is what controls where it actuates

[shut scroll]

what do i do with the white bar

[analog sinew]

drag from the left so its there too

and covers the slots you want to actuate

[analog sinew]

on this one i used f and - are always together

if you only do the left two, - will be only on the downstroke but on the upstroke only f

[shut scroll]

YESSS

alr js one more thing

is there any way to like remove the delay between f- completely

[analog sinew]

there shouldnt really be any?

[shut scroll]

oh really?

[analog sinew]

if you hold it?

[shut scroll]

alr thats all then, thanks alot

[analog sinew]

if you want it to spam ultrafast that would need an external macro 🤷‍♂️

this is as fast as it gets with internal software

[shut scroll]

not really spam but i will be repeatedly pressing the key

[analog sinew]

yeah then putting the white bar all across is the best

that way you get 4 instances for one press and release

thats the max DKS can do

[shut scroll]

alr thats it

thanks again, alot

[nimble citrus]

I just went into setting to make my lighting not go to sleep and I can
not adjust settings a message says that the keyboard is not connected.

[rough osprey]

https://youtu.be/sQ56ve39l2I?si=-ouaMQTvnzkuukS9

[astral haven]

Wow that's awesome and also hella clickbait

[rough osprey]

hehe

[harsh ether]

xd

[winter smelt]

can anyone help me troubleshoot an issue? when i press alt+shift, my s key does not work. all other keys work while holding this combination

[astral haven]

#1019755933959733258

[nimble arch]

How much popcorn will I need for this?

[astral haven]

little to none, also clickbait

its about the view counting issue on yt

[nimble arch]

I’m aware that YouTube isn’t counting ad block views correctly but equally, given his previous stance on ad block being piracy, surely there’s a hot take in there somewhere?

[astral haven]

i mean adblock on an ad supported platform is piracy

[analog sinew]

oh no my viewcount

🤷‍♂️

and bombarding me with shitty scam ads is assholery

[astral haven]

so pay to get rid of them
no money no content, if you arent providing it, someone else has to

[umbral heron]

Oh no, poor multi-billion corporations

[vapid ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL4G_OW0SYs

[leaden kiln]

I would probably get youtube premium if I wasn’t forced to get youtube music along with it for more than half of the price

[devout raptor]

any audiophiles in chat? are nearfield studio monitors completely shit for tv usage

[viral hatch]

Hi I got 9070xt Windows 11 Pro
Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
Motherboard JGINYUE B650M-D
Memory (RAM) DDR5 32GB 5600MHz
Storage Drive M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB
Power Supply (PSU) 600W 80+ Bronze
Case White case + 4 case fans is this okay I also have 165hz 1440p monitor

I also plan to undervolt it and the spefeic model of the gpu is xfx mercury oc

[reef patrol]

Your PSU seems a tad undercooked.

[viral hatch]

Yeah I got a really good deal idk what to do

[ashen spindle]

Yeah see if you can at least get a gold rated PSU but it would be fine

[viral hatch]

Alr

I will ask the seller to upgrade it

[lunar elm]

tbh if he runs the 9070xt at 304w it would be fine

i wouldnt trust some random bronze psu tho

[ashen spindle]

Yeah I just don’t trust bronze rated psu because so many them are shit

[viral hatch]

Ye I will ask the seller to upgrade to gold Ty

[ashen spindle]

Also I’ve never seen someone use exclusively eBay this much for new parts lol

[viral hatch]

Yeah I couldn’t find any better deals lol so I had to resort to eBay

Wait is there a jawa in uk?

[ashen spindle]

Idk I’d just pcpartpicker

[viral hatch]

Yeah I tried that but I found a better deal and gpu is used only for one month undervolted and drivers all installed

Imma do fresh instal of win 11 when I get it

[reef patrol]

I'm running it on a 650W Platinum and I still don't feel super safe 😄

[warm ore]

Because the rating itself don't mean much beyond the efficiency, which is a curve btw.
Component quality is often very important.

[ashen spindle]

Yeah that’s why it’s not an amazing rating but they aren’t going to use good expensive components in a cheap bronze rating

You can find cheap stuff in higher rating but rare to see the opposite

[viral hatch]

Luckily my house made out of brick

[unkempt lake]

I think you're just not looking hard enough

[jaunty ivy]

Gold rating doesn't tell you anything about quality

[ashen spindle]

yes I said as much afterwards

[unkempt lake]

Dudes gonna end up with ebay chinesium

[ashen spindle]

but its much less common to see better than needed parts in the lowest end rating and then 600w is cutting it close

if you are close to what the pc can spike to its just safer to get a better psu vs when you're 200W above that anyway

[jaunty ivy]

600w would be ok if spikes didn't exist

But 750w would be enough, 850w ideal imo

[viral hatch]

Well I did tho? Stfu

[unkempt lake]

Literally a chinesium motherboard xD

Good luck getting bios updstes

[jaunty ivy]

Every motherboard is Chinese

[unkempt lake]

Mystery psu which we don't know the brand of nor the model

[unkempt lake]

Jingyue levels of chinese tho?

[jaunty ivy]

That psu should be swapped quick tho

[unkempt lake]

Their website is literally broken

And had no drivers on it

And no bioses

There's a downloads section but its literally non functional

We also dont even know the model

The ram? 5600 cl what

We don't know

What model we don't know

The nvme we don't know

Literally trash xD

You know its good when you just have a driver update.rar with description "drive the president"

[viral hatch]

Ye that’s what I’m gonna do

[jaunty ivy]

I recommend not buying it actually

[viral hatch]

Gang I already tested it in person

[jaunty ivy]

It's honestly a scam

[unkempt lake]

It's a fucking meme of a pc

[viral hatch]

Really explain pls

[jaunty ivy]

Ever hear the term "too good to be true"?

[unkempt lake]

You're buying shitty aliexpress grade parts assembled for you that will have 0 support, you won't be able to update your bios in the future, firmware updates you csn forget about

Literally you have no clue what you're actually buying

If you want to buy chinese crap then go on aliexpress and buy it yourself at least you'll know what you're getting

Literally what this seller is doing

[umbral heron]

Jginyue

[unkempt lake]

• you won't have to pay his markup

Because yes there's a markup he has to make profit

[viral hatch]

Ah I understand it now

So I come to your house and get your pc

[jaunty ivy]

The price of the PC is so low that it's not even making a profit if the parts being sold were actually legit

[unkempt lake]

Drive the president and upgrade your drives

[vagrant pagoda]

nah shit teir stuff is dirt cheap in actual chinese sellers

[unkempt lake]

Only the finest chinesium

[vagrant pagoda]

even ali/temu addon a big markup

[unkempt lake]

Cals do you drive the president

[vagrant pagoda]

only thing that is still expensive are cpus and gpus

[umbral heron]

Wait, hol up, didn't you made like a pcpartpicker list already, we helped you pick parts and you were to buy PC in January?

[vagrant pagoda]

everything else is dirt in china

[jaunty ivy]

A 9070xt on its own is £600 new

[viral hatch]

Yeah but budget cuts came in

[ashen spindle]

wait wait are you already looking at parts again FOR SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BUY IN JANUARY

[unkempt lake]

If you're gonna cut corners that much then just save your money and wait

[vagrant pagoda]

its am5, just get everything else and save for gpu

[ashen spindle]

the 9070xt is not part of the pc thats a separate listing

[vagrant pagoda]

you can play tons of indie and old stuff on am5 igpu

[ashen spindle]

or just dont look at anything when you dont buy anything till january

[umbral heron]

Yeah... but... like... we helped you pick parts... and apart from 9070XT there's everything wrong with this PC
No name power supply, no name SSD, Some fine Chinesium motherboard, 9600X where I'm pretty sure even 5800X3D would work better in games
If you haven't bought it already, do not
Save money, build a better PC, have it for longer time
Because this Chinesium stuff will last tops 2 years if you're lucky

[vagrant pagoda]

if only rembrant was on desktop

[ashen spindle]

if you buy something in january do not look at shit before last week of december at the earliest

[vagrant pagoda]

a 5800x3d even used is like double a 9600x

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-at-you-hired-mita-miside-stare-gif-13033948160865150232

[viral hatch]

Ok

So then should I buy it from my country then

[vagrant pagoda]

you cant be recommending 5800x3d anymore XD

[ashen spindle]

the first decision is, do you want to buy something now or still in january

[unkempt lake]

5700x3d maybe?

[ashen spindle]

then, regardless of what the answer is, yes, buy something local unless your economy is like eastern europe fucked and you need to import from germany or such

and no, am4 for a new pc is not worth it in any case anymore

[unkempt lake]

He's in the uk he's fine

[vagrant pagoda]

same price as a 7600x3d no?

[unkempt lake]

Havent checked in ages

[viral hatch]

Alr one sec guys

[ashen spindle]

I know hes in the uk I was making a general statement

[jaunty ivy]

Don't build am4 new. 5700x3d/5800x3d is only worth if you're looking to upgrade cpu and am already on am4

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah both 300

[digital cliff]

oh cpu prices are still cringe

[vagrant pagoda]

5800x3d are more used thn a new 7800x3d these days XD

[ashen spindle]

cpu prices are fine people just dont know what cpus to look for

because they hear x3d and think has to be that

[vagrant pagoda]

99% of people dont need 200 fps, so a 7600x is enough

[viral hatch]

I made new list

[unkempt lake]

In 5 mins?

[viral hatch]

Yes

[ashen spindle]

no list, first step, tell use are you buying something now or in january

[unkempt lake]

Are you just spamming random buttons

[vagrant pagoda]

unless you have a 5090 and like 1080p low

[jaunty ivy]

Price of a 9600x is very similar to a 7600/x and is sometimes a better option depending on your region

[viral hatch]

November or late October

[ashen spindle]

okay so the list its useless

[viral hatch]

It’s like 10 pounds more

[ashen spindle]

we are in september dont make a list for what to buy in november

[vagrant pagoda]

im just saying its enough for 99% of people building pc

[viral hatch]

I preplanning it

[jaunty ivy]

Don't be making lists until you're ready to purchase. PC market may be wildly different, so what was once a good list is no longer good

[unkempt lake]

You sre wasting your time

[vagrant pagoda]

ryzen absolutly skyrocketed cpu performance in the last 5 years

[unkempt lake]

Just stop

[ashen spindle]

theres no point in people wasting their time to tell you a list is good or bad when every single piece of it could be sold out or not worth it anymore

you arent pre planning you are literally just wasting time

[vagrant pagoda]

its amazing

hopefully something happnes and dose the same for gpus

[viral hatch]

Don’t worry I know what’s good and bad bro i have just been rage baiting to think I’m a new person

Trust the method

[unkempt lake]

no you're just a dumbass

[viral hatch]

As far I have seen it’s only been dropping

[viral hatch]

Whatever you want to call it

[ashen spindle]

thats still wasting time because what if other parts are dropping even more so its still a bad list

you are just wasting peoples time

[unkempt lake]

Literally

[vagrant pagoda]

making other people do your windows shopping

[viral hatch]

Ye

[unkempt lake]

Hey we know to ignore him now

[viral hatch]

Ye I’m a rage baiter btw

[ashen spindle]

and now youre blocked

[viral hatch]

Good

[vagrant pagoda]

im a master baiter

catch me at the creek

[viral hatch]

Same bet

3pm sounds good?

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CggZxyWl-g interesting battery "upgrades"

[viral hatch]

Hehe I got a steal

[timber rune]

will wooting 60he v2 much better than v1?

[timber rune]

do we know when it gonna release?

[digital cliff]

this year

[steady sail]

Nov/Dec

[timber rune]

alrr tyty

[nimble arch]

https://youtu.be/hTnggqnC3ug

[lunar elm]

including the wallet

https://tenor.com/view/phainon-phainon-hsr-hsr-honkai-star-rail-gif-3091589045626789333

[jaunty ivy]

Dual rtx pro 6000 build when?

[fringe wing]

Just get a friend or 2 and pay for YouTube family. You pay 1 month, every 3 months. Ez as cake

[vagrant pagoda]

yputube will boot family members if you haven't been geo near them in a few months

[vagrant pagoda]

why even include the rm?

[fringe wing]

I've been sharig family sub with 5 diff people (all in my country ofc) for yearz

BUT i'm a sub. since youtube RED days (needed a VPN to activate it, was 5 EUR at the time) so maybe I can fly under the radar

Been subbed to YT for 10 years now :p

[magic minnow]

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-confirms-smart-refrigerator-ads-are-coming-3598848/

[steady sail]

[vagrant pagoda]

eu privacy might stop the tracking lmao

[vapid ruin]

Good AI PC

[nimble arch]

A friend of mine got the iPhone Air 👀

[steady sail]

i cant wait to get my battery replacement

even tho IOS26 kinda give me a little better battery life

[nimble arch]

I've not enabled adaptive battery mode, yet.

[steady sail]

i dont have that xd

[lunar elm]

[steady sail]

[leaden kiln]

Nice

[gusty kiln]

did he also get the magsafe battery bank made specifically for the air?

[nimble arch]

No, not yet at least.

He’s got two pocket sized battery banks anyway.

[steady sail]

he needs a third one

[magic minnow]

Don’t forget the Apple MagSafe is smart

[unkempt lake]

How "far" do you have to be

Because i'm still leeching off my dad's thing lol

[vagrant pagoda]

idk i got the warning once for my one buddy

[unkempt lake]

Been for years

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean do you ever vist home?

[unkempt lake]

To see my kitties

Yes

[vagrant pagoda]

thyats all you gotta do

[unkempt lake]

I wonder if its like netflix where

[vagrant pagoda]

my buddy was cross country for like 4-5 months

got a warning

[unkempt lake]

I can just spoof his ip

[vagrant pagoda]

so i bought a burner phone and had him login to it remotly lol

[unkempt lake]

Cuz i have a spare router plugged into my apple tv

It spoofs my dad's ip lol

So i can use netflix

Got a wireguard vpn setup

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/sharing-your-youtube-premium-plan-your-service-could-be-paused/

thats newer

this was year+ ago

[unkempt lake]

Whatever they do it hasn't affected things for me

I guess visiting the kitties is enough

I love my kitties

[pale sigil]

This happened to me

A month or so ago

Gave up....

[steady sail]

i love YT Premium

[digital cliff]

i love revanced

[pale sigil]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Internal-Gaming-Desktop-Compatible/dp/B0DC8K6KQD

Do yall think this would be fine for docker containers and plex? (Not media storage)

Im getting absolutely fucked using a HDD atm, i thought truenas apps defaulted to the OS drive lol

[gusty kiln]

it's low TBW but probably fine if it is just the apps

since it'll be mostly just reading 99% of the time

[pale sigil]

Well

Other than the plex db ye

[lunar elm]

$9 sgd a month compared to $16 sgd

[halcyon moss]

IMHO, you have to try hard to get to the tbw stuff.

[viral hatch]

To

Should I drive the president

[rough osprey]

man i love liquid glass

best invention ever

[sudden imp]

is it actually any good?

[rough osprey]

its pretty

[sudden imp]

haven't had the update yet

[steady sail]

just go to updates and reload it

[sudden imp]

ahh

[leaden kiln]

Pulling down the notification shade is so extra

[rough osprey]

they should make settings bubbles less grey

[leaden kiln]

In the control center?

[astral haven]

yea

[rough osprey]

yea

the app library looks very yummy

[viral hatch]

Yo

Should I drive the president