🔌│tech

[unkempt lake]

We talking b650 or b850

[ashen spindle]

Both they are just renamed same things for most brands

[unkempt lake]

But yeah from my knowledge the only fail was the asus prime boards

But maybe i'm mistaken

Let me find the vid again

[warm ore]

When you don't have time or the person asking requires quick answers and you can't have time, thats when i generally recommend mid range X chipset, because generally it would mean better components based on what it focuses on, and theres alot of overlap in price where it's affordable. Ofcourse this would have to be analysed on a board per board/comparion basis still.

[unkempt lake]

@ashen spindle

[unkempt lake]

we have time tho

[warm ore]

i think wifi6 was also a big ask, it's not something i really think of on any board, because add in cards can do it, and generally wired is preferred.

[unkempt lake]

use wired

[warm ore]

I don't and the person asking also didn't, atleast not within a reasonable time for me to give personal recommendations.

[unkempt lake]

Also most people still use wifi 5 routers

[warm ore]

I would recommend that myself yes

[thick ermine]

This is why open air pc’s should be more normalized.

https://tenor.com/view/air-air-conditioning-perviz-perviz12345-gif-22297632

[warm ore]

Correct, however as irony would have it, i'm getting a Wifi7 router as we speak

[ashen spindle]

Ah yeah so you have like 5 boards maybe that aren’t great when doing non gaming on the 16 cores, so for a 9800x3d VRM was a complete non issue so it didn’t matter and there was no reason to say there could be issues with cheaper parts if that was the only concern..

[warm ore]

Another thing that would require some looking into is the list of boards that now have confirmed X3D failures, i have seen several recently, but i didn't have the time to read into details.
If i was purchasing any board, i would take that into very high account.

[unkempt lake]

just avoid asrock

ur good to go

[warm ore]

Thats one observation that seems a bit more and more evident yes, but i only have limited optics.

[nimble arch]

But which WiFi 7 router is one getting?

[ashen spindle]

Higher priced boards aren’t making it less likely to have issues with x3d so that’s also not a valid point to say there would be more issues on cheaper boards

[warm ore]

Not at all no

[unkempt lake]

Higher tier boards will generally pump more voltage out of the box

[warm ore]

The failure issues has to be looked at separately, i'm pretty sure among the failures there were X870 and X870E boards that aren't cheap.

[steady sail]

Ah yes spending 1200$ on a mobo just for gaming

[ashen spindle]

So then there’s still no reason given as to why you should go with higher priced boards for higher priced cpus..

[nimble arch]

Are you not a real gamer without a $1200 motherboard?

[mental helm]

More expensiver = gooder right?

[warm ore]

Spend it on Pálinka, that makes so much more sense

[steady sail]

I would spend that 1200$ on a GPU

And i would get a 200-300$ motherboard instead

[rough patrol]

Real gamers need the miku motherboard

[warm ore]

Nah, i think you would just get whatever AMD offers for less.

[steady sail]

I mean what’s wrong with that ?

[warm ore]

Nothing, same as others spending 1200$ on boards if they feel like. Remember this is all relative.

[steady sail]

I mean yeah i would pick the cheaper gpu bc i dont care about RT and FG performance

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e2OfWGPqfUg
Well that's... new. AMD interviewing speedrunners 😄

I mean it's obviously marketing bile. But... Didn't see that one coming.

[ashen spindle]

smart, a segment that has reach but doesnt really care about hardware usually

unlike esports where x3d just beats out intel sponsoring lans because pros complain about pcs being slow xD

[viral hatch]

Yo

[lunar elm]

yes mom i need a x870e extreme for homework

[steady sail]

I mean i went from a 60$ mobo to a 150$ mobo

B450 to B550

[mental helm]

i’m using a bronze certified psu

[viral hatch]

I think 300 dollars is alright for the mobo

[umbral heron]

Pick B650/B850 and done

[mental helm]

but muh rgb

[umbral heron]

You still get ARGB headers

[ashen spindle]

300 is "I want a special look or one rare feature " price tier

so, not the worst, but more than I'd ever pay

[umbral heron]

Oh, they are at it again

[mental helm]

but my motherboard won’t light up calslock

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[viral hatch]

Bro the other guy was trynna get me to spend 700

[mental helm]

i want my motherboard to be shiny and rainbow

[viral hatch]

But my one is on sale 230

[mental helm]

spending 1200 on a mobo means you’re either a snake oil victim or chasing one super niche feature

[umbral heron]

Motherboard is just a piece that you connect other stuff to
Buy the cheapest you can get that still has all features you need

[mental helm]

99.99% of people don’t need that mobo

[gentle osprey]

I think $150-200 is good enough for most people

[mental helm]

get one that works, like 200

if it works and is the color you want, who cares

[viral hatch]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

@warm ore told me to get 500 and 700 dollar one

[umbral heron]

Yeah, don't

[viral hatch]

If I don’t want issues ?

[mental helm]

they dont seem too clued up on it

get what you want

the one you linked looks okay

[viral hatch]

Yeah I’m getting the one on sales

[ashen spindle]

maybe hes part of the mobo mafia and its protection money

[viral hatch]

Ye ty

[mental helm]

shill

[viral hatch]

Wait do you mean this one

[gentle osprey]

Just don’t get an AsRock board, find something for around $150-200 if you can and call it a day

[umbral heron]

Is good

[gentle osprey]

Maybe watch a review on the board you want

[viral hatch]

Idk if that one has wifi tho

[viral hatch]

Yeah they still have exploding problem

[gentle osprey]

If it doesn’t say it, it usually doesn’t

[astral haven]

Ia there anyone with a good track record in motherboards now?

[umbral heron]

I am
1 Asrock board, 1 unexploded

100% of success rate

[ashen spindle]

depends on how long of a timeframe you look at for the track record I suppose

[gentle osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b850-aorus-elite-wifi7-ice-atx-motherboard-amd-b850-am5/p/N82E16813145544

[ashen spindle]

to me they are all the same atm

[gentle osprey]

This one has all white

[ashen spindle]

hes uk not us

[viral hatch]

Btw this is my build is it looking good?

[umbral heron]

I immediately see one problem here
Refurbished PSU
Just... don't

Also you ate RAM sticks name and specs

[gentle osprey]

I mean I was just showing the newer all white version

He can look it up themselves on their respective country website

[ashen spindle]

ah fair

[astral haven]

Gigabios
Asus auto volts
Asplode rock
MSIng support
Rip evga

[gusty kiln]

shame evga never made a AM5 mobo

[astral haven]

They did

[ashen spindle]

I mean if it wasnt rip evga it would be $vga

doubt we had ever gotten a b series evga board

[gentle osprey]

How much is 7800X3D in Uk?

[viral hatch]

350

[astral haven]

Not any more :/

[viral hatch]

And 9800x3d is 380

[gentle osprey]

Oh nevermind

[gusty kiln]

engineerting sample?

[astral haven]

But yea buying 1 of 5 ever made units with no support is dumb

[gentle osprey]

I was going to say if it was like $100 cheaper I’d just get that

[gusty kiln]

maybe sapphire can shake things up

[astral haven]

Doubt it :/

[gusty kiln]

just pray you get a perfect MSI sample

[ashen spindle]

I mean I'm still going to look at asrock boards personally

[astral haven]

Yea :/

[gusty kiln]

yeah the asrock lite boards are amazing value

[ashen spindle]

the other vendors didnt have socket specific issues and more overarching issues, also I run jedec so thats less of an issue and I havent seen any reports of issues after latest bios

[astral haven]

I'll take my 1/1000 chances rather than deal with Asus auto volts guaranteed

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I haven’t seen anything either after 3.40 bios

[steady sail]

Tbh the only reason i went with asus is their bios

[umbral heron]

Time to update I guess

[gentle osprey]

Yes

[ashen spindle]

really hoping next socket is indeed using lpddr6 so theres less memory overclocking and thus less issues

[gentle osprey]

And chipset drivers

[gentle osprey]

Where my CAMM2 modules at

[lunar elm]

assrock?

ill update later

i think

i might forget

idk

[umbral heron]

[gentle osprey]

I mean I still like AsRock boards, never owned one but I think they are good value when they don’t have issues

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[astral haven]

Oh god no pls
The latency is such pain

[gentle osprey]

There was this like $120-150 AsRock board I used to recommend people all the time

[astral haven]

Unless they switch all to 256b or more

[lunar elm]

im gonna guess pg lightning

[umbral heron]

I had like one issue when after power loss it forgot which nvme was which, so GRUB would fail to boot
After update to 3.20 problem is gone

[gentle osprey]

Think so or the RS Pro

[gentle osprey]

wtf is that

[lunar elm]

the egpu setup rn

[ashen spindle]

eh, with lp6 its not too bad and yes they could increase the bus

[gentle osprey]

Looks like a GPU Gauss Rifle

[lunar elm]

I wanna get a ITX mobo, screw the psu with the gpu and carry the caseless PC via gpu

[gentle osprey]

Waifu edition

[zenith silo]

https://tenor.com/view/mona-lisa-painting-gif-9441058

[gentle osprey]

Basically

“Face the power of AI Generated Frames you Demons!”

[viral hatch]

@gentle osprey yo I found it

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-build-blood-stalk-henshin-soichi-isurugi-evolto-gif-8754549874258169342

[gentle osprey]

Aye nice

[viral hatch]

Imma cook now ty

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I just like that one better cause the ram slots and such are also white

[zenith silo]

I should start pricing out an am5 swap

[viral hatch]

Yeah but my ram is 80 is that fine?

[gentle osprey]

80?

[viral hatch]

80 pounds

[gentle osprey]

Oh yeah that’s fine

DDR5 should only be around $80-120 for a decent kit

[ashen spindle]

like, assuming lp6 does similar improvements then the latency wouldnt be an issue

[zenith silo]

What speed should I look for, planning on picking up 9800x3d whenever I buy cpu

[umbral heron]

6000CL30 is sweet spot for AM5

[gentle osprey]

32GB 6000MT/s (MHz) and CL30

[astral haven]

Yea but those are atrocious for ddr5
Half that is possible if hard

[gentle osprey]

Can go 64 gb if you want but I’d stick to two sticks, not four

[zenith silo]

To pcpartpicker i go

[umbral heron]

Or 2x24

[zenith silo]

I dont think past 32 is really necessary for me

[gentle osprey]

^^

Or what Cals said

[gentle osprey]

Yeah it’s not for most

[zenith silo]

Do you want more ram for ddr5 or is 32gb still plenty for gaming

[ashen spindle]

sure but we are at lp5x which isnt even included there so lp6x could work

[gentle osprey]

Still plenty

[zenith silo]

Beauty

[viral hatch]

32gb

[umbral heron]

I think I saw only once going over 32GB and that's while playing Tarkov

[gentle osprey]

Tarkov be tarkoving

Cheeki breeki

[astral haven]

Stxh is 140ns

[ashen spindle]

like lpddr6 starts at 10Gbps thats like double of that LP5 example has in the picture

[zenith silo]

Any specific brands to avoid for mobos?

Heard of a few but don't remember their names

[ashen spindle]

nah just update bios and they are all the same really

[viral hatch]

Any recommendations for a good white cooler for 40 dollars max

[astral haven]

Outside of the us warranty is a pain but you'd have to look up your country

[gentle osprey]

The hate lately is on AsRock but just update bios if you get one of their boards

[zenith silo]

Peerless assassin

Got mine for 45 cad

[viral hatch]

Link

[gentle osprey]

Or phantom spirit

[viral hatch]

Which one better

[zenith silo]

https://a.co/d/1s34C0R

[gentle osprey]

Basically newer version of the peerless

[zenith silo]

Non rgb one

[gentle osprey]

Phantom spirit is slightly better iirc

[viral hatch]

Ty

[viral hatch]

Ah alr

[zenith silo]

Is cl36 fine or should I exclusively look for cl30

What does that even mean?

[gentle osprey]

I mean it's fine but I'd go for 30

[ashen spindle]

its fine, doesnt make a difference on x3d anyway really

[gentle osprey]

yeah

[zenith silo]

What is cl** though?

[astral haven]

The other annoying part of lpddr is bandwidth has a hit vs same freq of regular so its misleading

[gentle osprey]

Clock Latency

[zenith silo]

Ah

Lower number better I presume then

[gentle osprey]

typically

but depends on the game/scenario etc

[zenith silo]

Praying there's a white cl30 kit then

[astral haven]

Yes but its cas or column latency not clock not that it matters

[gentle osprey]

That too

[ashen spindle]

would need less layers than ddr6 though so probably makes boards cheaper and also less issues with signal pathing

[astral haven]

Nah

You still need to design for the freq, you just get less bw from it

That is unless we switch to soldered which pain

[ashen spindle]

its using less power so that should make the signaling easier no?

[astral haven]

No it makes it harder

The power is from lower voltage and more complicated refreshing, both result in less signal

[ashen spindle]

ah hmm

well, its going to be some years before we switch from ddr5 anyway so stuff could still change

[astral haven]

Halo 🙁

[zenith silo]

https://a.co/d/6rE82k7

Think ill go with this mobo

Decent price + its white

[unkempt lake]

Msi best warranty wise for canada

[unkempt lake]

It's kind of a shitty price

You can get an x670e for this price...

Also @zenith silo i'd argue you'd benefit more from a gpu upgrade than a cpu upgrsde

You have a 5800x3d

You could slap a 5090 on there and be fine

Instead replace your 6900xt

Much better use of money

Ifnyou want better performance

[brisk topaz]

Isnt a high tier b650 board better than a low tier x670e when comparing similar pricing?

[steady sail]

Man i can see cheap AM5 boards in Hungary

[ashen spindle]

no, it depends on what you need

[steady sail]

But im gonna stick to my 5800x3d

Im only gonna switch when AM6 is out

Or atleast i think thats a good idea

[gentle osprey]

yeah esp if they playing at like 4k

1440p should be alright too

there is Nvidia Overhead thing but

meh

[unkempt lake]

He's at 1440p

[zenith silo]

Is it white

[zenith silo]

So should I cancel my ram order

[unkempt lake]

It makes 0 sense to upgrade yeah

Cancel lol

[ashen spindle]

depends, what games

[unkempt lake]

Go buy a gpu

[zenith silo]

Uhh

Its just disappeared from my amazon

It said swap to .ca now its not even showing in my account

[gentle osprey]

ah okay, yeah I'm not sure if or how much the Nvidia overhead would affect the 5800x3d

[zenith silo]

Im not buying an nvidia gpu

[gentle osprey]

Nevermind then

[ashen spindle]

are you more playing stuff like valorant or stuff like Metal gear

[zenith silo]

Probably gonna grab a 9070xt

[zenith silo]

I would like to get 240@1440 on bf6

Mostly play fps titles

[ashen spindle]

then a cpu upgrade absolutely makes sense over a gpu upgrade

[zenith silo]

My setup can do 1440@240 on val/ow with ease but not stuff like the finals/bf6

[gentle osprey]

what you have now 5800x3d and 6900xt?

[zenith silo]

6900xt 5800x3d yeah

[steady sail]

Tbh a 9070xt would be a great upgrade

[zenith silo]

I was getting like 150-170fps on bf6 beta 1080p all low

Would like 1440@240 stable on all low

[unkempt lake]

The 6900xt won't be able to get you more tho

[ashen spindle]

you can tune down graphic settings so there is less load on the gpu, you cant do much if your cpu cant get you more frames

[unkempt lake]

You can't go lower than low

And fsr3 at 1080p looks like doodoo

[ashen spindle]

you can lower resolution

[unkempt lake]

Literally the enemies will be harder to see at that point

Defeats the point of having more fps

[ashen spindle]

doesnt change the fact a better gpu isnt going to give more fps when in a cpu bottleneck

[unkempt lake]

well then he'd need a whole system upgrade

Or he's wasting his time

[zenith silo]

Id probably run fsr on bf6

[ashen spindle]

well no hes not only playing BF6 and nothing else

[zenith silo]

I would be doing the entire system eventually

[ashen spindle]

so even if he cant get his goal in BF6 its still giving better fps and helping in other games too

[zenith silo]

But whatever is the best bang for my buck sooner for stable 240 on bf6 would be my first upgrade

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/aYYVz4q-Rt8?si=rJTBRPX8OJKcDQBd

[unkempt lake]

fsr at 1080 is really really bad tho

[zenith silo]

Im on 1440 tho

[unkempt lake]

Also you'd be running 1080p on a 1440p monitor

You said you wanted to run 1080

[zenith silo]

Nah

[zenith silo]

^

That was before I got my oled

[ashen spindle]

so are you saying he should not upgrade anything if not the entire system? that doesnt make much sense when he can get more fps from a cpu upgrade

[zenith silo]

My current system was running 1080p all low at like 150-170fps on bf6

Is what I was saying

[unkempt lake]

I think a whole system upgrade makes more sense

[zenith silo]

Yes but not all at once

[unkempt lake]

Then start with whatever you can get a good deal on

[zenith silo]

I want to do whichever upgrade will give me the most fps increase until I can afford the whole system overhaul

[astral haven]

Yeah, and if you can't get the whole system, or at least just the GPU, then why bother? For such a minimal improvement...

[ashen spindle]

you can get quite a decent uplift in shooters going from 5800x3d to 9800x3d

[zenith silo]

I thought my system was already cpu bound

And bf6 is cpu intensive no?

[unkempt lake]

But he's running a 6900xt at 1440p

[warm ore]

what game/games are you looking to have this increase in

[zenith silo]

Mostly just wanna get stable 240@1440 on bf6

[unkempt lake]

It's also gpu intensive you can't really escape it

[gentle osprey]

I mean here's Marvel at 1440 medium quality

[zenith silo]

Can you show 9800x3d for comparison?

[unkempt lake]

@zenith silo are you buying a 5090

[zenith silo]

Fuck no

[gentle osprey]

its on there

[astral haven]

Less than you would have from spending an extra $100 on the GPU.

[warm ore]

My rec would be a CPU and memory upgrade then (obviously comes hand in hand already due to your AM4->AM5 jump)

[zenith silo]

Oh im blind

[unkempt lake]

Then there's no point

[gentle osprey]

yeah make sure you look at the gpu its paired with

[ashen spindle]

rivals is like the most gpu heavy shooter you can find...

[astral haven]

And that upgrade is going to cost $5-600, maybe more if you have nice RAM?

[zenith silo]

So I gotta drop 3.5k on a gpu just to get my refresh rate on this shit 😭 😭 😭 😭

[ashen spindle]

no, bf6 is not marvel rivals..

[warm ore]

it's a very CPU bound game, they even dropped upscaling

[brisk topaz]

Rx 9070 xt would be able to do maxed out in bf6 and be fine.

[unkempt lake]

Wtf are you on about

[steady sail]

I mean i had like 140-160fps on 1440p Ultra in BF6 Beta with a 5800x3d and a RX9070

[brisk topaz]

Stop talking

[vapid ruin]

Nice, seems like for that kind of game im right where my gpu and cpu is equal

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[gentle osprey]

For BF6

[unkempt lake]

Bf6 is fucking intense on the gpu too

[gentle osprey]

18% higher avg fps and 43% higher 1% lows

[zenith silo]

9070xt is 1600$😭 😭

[unkempt lake]

no its not

[brisk topaz]

Just use freesync and fsr4 and accept the frames you get

Still will be better than what xbox or ps will provide

[unkempt lake]

You can get one for 900cad

[zenith silo]

First 2 I seen were

[unkempt lake]

Wtf are you looking at night

[zenith silo]

Didn't scroll further

[brisk topaz]

I got my 9070xt for $700 wut

[zenith silo]

No

[viral hatch]

Yo

[ashen spindle]

9070xt msrp is 600 USD..

[brisk topaz]

Yea mine is an aib model

[gentle osprey]

^^

[viral hatch]

Is Asroxk steel legend a good 9070xt model

[zenith silo]

Im seeing a bunch for around 900-1600 cad

[gentle osprey]

Its around $699 USD currently

[brisk topaz]

It was the worst pick when looking at reviews

[viral hatch]

For me it’s 560

[unkempt lake]

900cad is what they retail for

[viral hatch]

Really? What’s the best then

[brisk topaz]

The best? @unkempt lake youd know better than me

[unkempt lake]

Stop looking at shitty third party listings @zenith silo

[brisk topaz]

Whats the best 9070xt

[ashen spindle]

no its not because you are looking at pounds not dollars for your currency

[viral hatch]

Pounds is more than dollars no

[brisk topaz]

Im happy with my xfx swift white 9070 xt

[brisk topaz]

Amazon listing

[zenith silo]

Yeah

[viral hatch]

Is the white taichi version the best ?

[ashen spindle]

yes so your 560 pound is 760 USD

[viral hatch]

Yes

[steady sail]

Tbh its me but MSRP is a myth

[ashen spindle]

so dont say its 560 for you without currency because then people think its the same as the one you replied to..

[brisk topaz]

I was told xfx is the brand to go with

[zenith silo]

On memory express

[viral hatch]

Hmm

[viral hatch]

Damn your cooked

[zenith silo]

I could get it next paycheck if I dont pay rent

[wind bronze]

7800x3d 4060ti and i roll on 240 fps most of the time just enough for my refresh rate

[viral hatch]

Just live in a tent much better ):

[zenith silo]

Fr

[brisk topaz]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/691890/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-swift-triple-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-50-graphics-card

[viral hatch]

What you studying?

[ashen spindle]

thats CAD so the price is cheaper for him than your card

[brisk topaz]

$750. Stop buying on amazon

[zenith silo]

Nothing

[viral hatch]

Oh

[zenith silo]

Usd or canadian

[brisk topaz]

Brand new

Oh i saw usd thought you typo’d used

Thats usd

[zenith silo]

😭

[viral hatch]

Medicine school actually pretty easy yk

[warm ore]

[viral hatch]

You just learn

[zenith silo]

Yeah thats like same price as all the ones I sent

[brisk topaz]

Thats 1036.06 cad @zenith silo

[zenith silo]

:p

[brisk topaz]

I only know freedom currency with the bald eagles printed on the paper

[viral hatch]

How much do you have to pay to build a microcenter in your country?

[brisk topaz]

Idk maple leaf currency with the restricted purchasing laws

[zenith silo]

We have a microcenter its just nowhere near me

[zenith silo]

Restricted purchasing?

[brisk topaz]

My build was $1718 after tax

[brisk topaz]

Yea you guys cant even buy handguns anymore lol

[viral hatch]

I want to build a microcenter in my country

Like pay for it to be built

[zenith silo]

Thats not restricted purchasing thats just outlawing handguns

[viral hatch]

How much do you think that will be ?

[brisk topaz]

Thats…. Jesus fuck lol

[zenith silo]

Thats not the same thing

[brisk topaz]

Thats literally restricting what you can and cannot purchase

But alr kid

[warm ore]

@viral hatch what board you picked afterall, may i ask?

[viral hatch]

A better one not a 700 pound one

[warm ore]

Which model?

[brisk topaz]

The microcenter i went to just popped up like 4 months ago

It was an old bed bath and beyond store

[ashen spindle]

gotta say its impressive how 3 or 4 people talk about something and none of them correctly read what the other people say

[viral hatch]

Aorus b850 elite wifi 7 ice

[zenith silo]

Thats not the same thing but ok

[viral hatch]

It’s 220

[zenith silo]

That doesnt relate to our currency at all

[zenith silo]

And has to do with our dogshit gun laws

[brisk topaz]

Trudeau is a moron

[zenith silo]

Our entire government is

[brisk topaz]

You guys need someone like ron desantis in charge of your government

[zenith silo]

Trudeau isnt even pm anymore

[ashen spindle]

you do know hes not even in charge anymore?

[brisk topaz]

I dont keep up too much with canadian politics i just know he was stupid

Idk whos in charge there anymore

[zenith silo]

Our government as a whole is the problem

[zenith silo]

He was just a puppet

[brisk topaz]

Same with in america

Politics ruin everything good.

Remember that when you vote

[ashen spindle]

you cant be serious when you're suggestion they need some anti-vax idiot

[viral hatch]

Not more than keir starter

Starmer

[brisk topaz]

Who

[viral hatch]

Uk prime minister

[brisk topaz]

Ah the crumpet muncher

[viral hatch]

I can’t say something bad bc he tracks everyone’s phones

[brisk topaz]

Yea uk has no freedom of speech

[viral hatch]

He’s not he just a scared sometimes idk

If yk yk

[brisk topaz]

Here in america you can say what you want the only thing that happens is the offended come out of their holes and flip out lmao

[viral hatch]

Dw im moving to America hopefully for my training

[ashen spindle]

man it shows you have no clue what freedom of speech means

[brisk topaz]

Good

[viral hatch]

What’s a good state?

I’m thinking about Texas or florida

[lyric hatch]

You can be sued for lots of things in America including things like defamation so you can't say whatever you want

[brisk topaz]

Any of the deep south states

Any other states mostly blue and has all the… well you can visit them and find out

[ashen spindle]

oh god hes a trumper

that explains the lysol

[viral hatch]

I just want me to be governor

[frozen ingot]

yeah he said the other day the diddler is his guy

[viral hatch]

I will stop all the wars gang

Trust me

[brisk topaz]

Good

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[viral hatch]

Vote for me ok

[zenith silo]

America is like the go to country i think of when I hear frivolous lawsuit

[viral hatch]

I can’t lie

Texas might be the strat

[dull hollow]

1/2 of them are stupid

[mental helm]

linux pov

[viral hatch]

Who made linux

[dull hollow]

the place on earth where you can be breathing and then be served a lawsuit for breathing

[viral hatch]

Bro like a decade when I was still in high school my friend got detention for breathing

I’m not even lieing

[astral haven]

Ah yes a highschooler, known for being mature and properly accounting what happened

[viral hatch]

Yes a decade ago indeed

Uk schools are the worst

[astral haven]

No, North Korean schools are the worst

[viral hatch]

No

[gusty kiln]

maybe the Taliban controlled Afghanistan schools are the worst now

[viral hatch]

Your right

Mauritian schools are the worst

And I would know I been there pure torture

Best one is kuwait ones ngl

[brisk topaz]

I got detention for forgetting my belt at home and improvising by using my shoe lace as a belt

No i got suspended for that lmao

It was stupid as hell

[viral hatch]

I got suspended for 2 weeks

[gusty kiln]

@astral haven did you see the pricing on the Z2E Lgeion Go 2?

[viral hatch]

For eating burger

Atleast I don’t hav to do high school again

[brisk topaz]

People who choose for you and decide your life are not your friends, they are your enemies.

[viral hatch]

Soon I will be helping in the hospital

[astral haven]

Havent been interested since i got deck
Why?

[gusty kiln]

starts at 1350

[ashen spindle]

hint: its too much

[viral hatch]

1350 dinar?

[astral haven]

Oof

[gusty kiln]

can get 4 lcd steam deck for that

[ashen spindle]

Z series chips are insanely expensive because fuck you

accounting's wet dream, sell the worst bins for the highest margin

[viral hatch]

That’s 4050 bro

[astral haven]

Stxh handheld pls

[viral hatch]

4059 for a deck

[ashen spindle]

there is one did you see that?

[astral haven]

Whaaaat

[ashen spindle]

external battery pack because it didnt fit otherwise

the GPD win5 and I think one or two others

[astral haven]

Lmao

Yoo that's siick

[gusty kiln]

easily 3 grand

[viral hatch]

Do you know which currency is worth the most ?

[ashen spindle]

128gb ram in a handheld

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SszpQ_zzcos

[viral hatch]

In dinar that’s like 10 grand

[ashen spindle]

ayaneo also makes one that one has a battery included though

but thats not even done yet so that will take some more time before its out

[gusty kiln]

onexplayer will probably make something like a 14inch tablet with attachable controllers

[astral haven]

I see so its a backpack battery that can instead be separate

Very lovely, I want that for laptops but instead of being for external battery, I want it for upgrade battery
Stock <99wh for planes, accessory batteries around double that

[halcyon moss]

Weight reduction?

[ashen spindle]

no they just dont have spave in the chassis because the chip is massive

[halcyon moss]

But does it reduce weight?

[astral haven]

Kinda?

Total weight is ofc up, but handheld weight is down

[gentle osprey]

yeah the weight just goes in your pocket now

via battery pack

[halcyon moss]

Yeah most important, because steam deck is heavy

[ashen spindle]

oh it is barely lighter than the steam deck

so yes it reduces weight but thats just an accidental side effect

also only if you keep the battery in your pocket

if its attached it certainly is heavier

[astral haven]

100-150g lighter is pretty solid (detached battery)

[ashen spindle]

its 80g lighter

still nice but its clunky for a rason xD

steam deck is 640 this allegedly is 565

[astral haven]

Oh oof

Still, that's a sizable amount of weight.

[rough osprey]

damn 5080 pulling 530w without adjusting powerdraw lol

[astral haven]

That's very very high
Wut

[rough osprey]

seems to be some peak

but shows up in hwinfo

[astral haven]

Oh you are looking at max not current?

[gentle osprey]

yeah wat

[rough osprey]

ye peak of gpu rail power

doesnt even show up on gpu power

man discord be having issues

[astral haven]

I'd bet its an offset thing where at any 1 time the power is lower but when they scan through the rails the power changed so that the first one was scanned when it was drawing more and the second one was scanned when it was drawing more but those were different times by a ms or 2

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-latest-driver-enables-fsr4-for-most-fsr-3-1-games

[rough osprey]

okay interesting

[gusty kiln]

Hopefully they add BF6 to that list soon

[plush stirrup]

this is always a funny sight 😅

[unkempt lake]

Been confirmed already

[brisk topaz]

Suddenly nvidia shills are quiet

Or have some other excuse as to why nvidia is better at double to triple the cost

[brisk topaz]

Bf6 will have fsr4?

[dull hollow]

the finals

@tribal dirge (1pm est)
time to find out of im buying an ipad this month

[tribal dirge]

yup I know

iPads are usually an october release iirc

buttttt they sometimes do it in september

[dull hollow]

[lunar elm]

most and not all is lowk disappointing

[dull hollow]

cant wait to try tandem oled after experiencing oled on my main display

[tribal dirge]

The tandem OLED panels on the iPad Pros are amazing

[dull hollow]

ive heard from reviewers

[tribal dirge]

They get super bright and they are actually usable in direct sunlight

Even in SDR brightness

[brisk topaz]

What does an rx 9070 xt and 7600x3d do in cp2077 at 4k maxed no rt no pt with fsr4 and no fsr4? Curious but its still got 2 days left to download for me

[umbral heron]

[nimble arch]

It’s a stinky API after all

[crimson wigeon]

Billion dollar corpos only want you to deal with billion dollar APIs

[nimble arch]

Vulkan API is the broke boy sign

[rough osprey]

can be lucky that games even work at all on amd gpus

[proud anvil]

What monitors you guys recommend for a 240hz one

Or more

[umbral heron]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table

[stark thistle]

do i have stickdrift?

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle Crazy jump lol

17 billion deal with microsoft

[umbral heron]

So they still pour money into AI hoping it'll work out
Satan Mortadella will be the end of Microsoft

[fickle ore]

Oh itll work

[rough patrol]

i'm so done with all this ai shit getting shoved down everyone's throats

[marsh glade]

Wild repricing lol

[fickle ore]

They are in partnership with Uber for autonomous delviery and taxi

already

[fickle ore]

crazy, thankfully I had a small position of it prior at ~$42

[umbral heron]

75Hz e-ink displays https://www.crowdsupply.com/modos-tech/modos-paper-monitor

https://x.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1964535977185288631

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

It's interesting hearing from pro players who use X3D chips in their personal gaming PCs, but then have to use Intel CPUs on LAN and find them too slow. Ropz had to use a 285K for a CS2 tournament and couldn't believe how slow it was. Peterbot who is the best Fortnite player uses

X · Sep 7, 2025, 3:47 AM

[reef patrol]

Oof 😄

multiple 13700K systems also crashed during the tournament, all were stock.

[fair gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cone-heads-toilet-paper-eating-toilet-paper-gif-16615161

intel with money

[umbral heron]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/the-game-is-ass-on-anything-else-but-a-9800x3d-esports-players-are-complaining-about-using-intel-cpus-at-sponsored-tournaments-rather-than-amd-x3d-chips-with-multiple-claims-of-crashing-and-significantly-worse-performance/

[marsh glade]

Intel couldn't innovate its way out of a paperbag

Been saying that for years now

[raw zephyr]

something something intel something paperbag

now i skewed the intel paperbag statistics of this discord

it's such a nice phrase though

[fickle ore]

Its unfair to compare 13th gen to 9800x3d tho, but you can definitely say that when novalake launches with x3d part if it still sucks 😄

[reef patrol]

In this context it's perfectly fine - It's what Intel is sponsoring for events.

[marsh glade]

Unfair? Oh pooooor Intel

/s

[brisk topaz]

Is the 9800x3d way better than anything intel

[young bough]

probs like 80 fps

[fickle ore]

Im just saying comparing latest gen to a few gen old, especially in gaming related tasks that benfit from x3d

The proper comparison is vs non x3d or you wait for x3d part to compare to

Gaming related comparison is also hand picking specific workload but in this context its ok

[umbral heron]

Just like Mansen said - it's perfectly fine to compare them in this very context

[fickle ore]

Well no, why is the tournament only providing them with 13th gen chips with known issues?

They should use the latest 285k etc

[umbral heron]

That's also the point

[fickle ore]

If they're using the latest AMD part as well

[misty matrix]

why is intel providing the tournament with those parts more like

[fickle ore]

regarded intel marketing if that's what theyre providing because its bad pr

[umbral heron]

Why on esport events pros do not have access to best parts available, or at least same parts as pros have themselves

[misty matrix]

i mean yeah thats kind of a shocker, seeing as they've had amazing pr/marketing so far

[ashen spindle]

Which performs worse and costs more due to more expensive platform

[fickle ore]

ye but doesnt crash atleast

[ashen spindle]

Intel is cutting costs, tournament providers are cheating out because lans tournaments are super expensive to make

Often it’s also a OEM like dell providing the setup

[brisk topaz]

Than even intels fastest cpu ?

[leaden kiln]

It’s crazy that Intel invited this unfair comparison

[misty matrix]

I hope that their answer to x3d will actually be worth anything

cause they're going down the shitter at breakneck pace

[brisk topaz]

Whats intels flagship cpu currently

[lunar elm]

285k

[brisk topaz]

Is it better than 7600x3d/7800x3d/9800x3d

[ashen spindle]

I mean they just need to fix cache latency issues from the new tiled design and they get there. Intel is doing fine in client use cases. Server is where they are crashing

[lunar elm]

in gaming no

285k is slower than 14900k

[umbral heron]

In productivity also no
9800X/9950X is your fren there

[brisk topaz]

How is it their flagship cpu then

[lunar elm]

because they said so

[fickle ore]

Productivity is much more close and decided by $ ig

[lunar elm]

iirc intel still wins in encoder for productivity(?)

[ashen spindle]

It depends, you can’t give either one a complete categorical victory

[lunar elm]

also intel imc basically smokes amd rn xd

unless threadripper

[umbral heron]

Yeah, RAM is Ryzen's Achilles' heel* since the beginning

[fickle ore]

Nova lake is gonna be interesting generation def, hope its gonna make the debate more interesting rather than just "pick X its better" when choosing parts

[brisk topaz]

How so

[steady sail]

Ryzen is allergic to some ram modules

[ashen spindle]

well its going to be a "dont buy" for gaming because new platform means they wont launch cheap boards for a while

so even if it can compete it will do at a premium for a few months at the least

[digital cliff]

#🔌│tech message uhhh

[steady sail]

But my 1500$ basic board

[brisk topaz]

I never had a issue

[umbral heron]

Yeah, most RAM modules will be working great
Problems start when you try to OC them or run outside XMP/EXPO spec

[digital cliff]

or when you have an AssUs mobo

fucking piece of shit garbage I'll never get assus again

cool few hours of my life wasted ticking random switches on and off in UEFI before I could even get my new build to boot with EXPO

[fickle ore]

Ill forever be MSI bc they usually do the most f/w updates for longest

ASSUS releases like 3 and stop

[umbral heron]

So may be Zen 6, AMD be cooking with dynamic cache clearing https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US461934774&_cid=P11-MEZ21T-62527-1
This may be X3D on steroids

[brisk topaz]

Funny i have asus mobo flawless issue free

[digital cliff]

that's great, mine would not boot with compatible ram with EXPO until I went through the entire UEFI trying every single solution I could find online until some worked

[steady sail]

I still remember that my 2600x could not run DOCP on my ram even on latest bios Asus b450 board, but my 5800x3d could

[jaunty ivy]

What speed were you trying? And what model mobo and ram?

[digital cliff]

whatever is stock and I don't remember

I'm not gonna bother looking that up because problem is solved

parts were literally compatible with each other as indicated by the compatibility chart of the ram and mobo

[brisk topaz]

Was it on early bios and you just werent patient with ram training doing its thing? My build i accidentally ruined was an asus mobo and in its earlier bios versions ram training took for fucking everrrrrr with no display it was so stupid. First boot on it took 10 min for display

[umbral heron]

My 3600X going "Now I'm not doing it" when I put RAM to 3200MHz

[brisk topaz]

Later bios was a lot faster

[steady sail]

Same i think my 2600x only could handle 2600mhz from 2400mhz soo

[digital cliff]

no i upgraded every firmware I could and part of the issue might have been that I was not familiar with memory training and how it works, but I let it sit for like 20 minutes at some point and no picture ever appeard

[jaunty ivy]

Bios updates do improve stability. If it was already on the most recent version, thats just unlucky

[digital cliff]

even to this day occasionally it'll do what I assume is memory training and just never recover

I boot my PC, fans go full blast and I can let it sit for 1 minute or 10 hours and picture never appears

[brisk topaz]

Do your mobo lights sit at orange forever?

Mine used to sit at orange for a long fucking time then flash red green white then boot

[digital cliff]

so I have to unplug the PSU, hold down the power button to hopefully reset CMOS whatever, and then try again until it doesn't try to do memory training anymore

mine were just white, I forget what it meant

assus manuals are also extremely poorly translated and looks like Xin from manufacturing took the manual's photos with his phone camera

so it's not easy to even figure out what the hell anything is supposed to mean

[devout raptor]

I bot a TV but dont want to buy streaming services. What now?

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle

[digital cliff]

you introduce TV to sledgehammer

[brisk topaz]

White is vga

[ashen spindle]

yeah I saw, MJ being out after leading foundry, oof

[digital cliff]

yeah and picture never appears

[brisk topaz]

So did you have a gpu issue and not even a ram/cpu/mobo issue lol

[digital cliff]

whenever it does the memory shenanigans, it can't find the graphics card

[brisk topaz]

Was your gpu the issue for no display?

[fickle ore]

iirc people called for this so might be good

[digital cliff]

no, it was the UEFI and its settings

[brisk topaz]

Nah i think the gpu was at fault

[digital cliff]

EXPO worked out of the box with integrated graphics

but not with dGPU

[brisk topaz]

Which again makes me think gpu

[ashen spindle]

the issue is its yet another leadership change for foundry, thats just making everything messy

[digital cliff]

worked perfectly fine with my previous mobo though

[brisk topaz]

Right but could be simple as you didnt seat the gpu fully in the pcie slot

Or something silly

[digital cliff]

well no, that would mean it just doesn't work ever

[brisk topaz]

Or the pcie slot was defective on thr mobo itself

[fickle ore]

New central engineering group led by Cadence exec + Former ARM lead to head of Data Center team

Not bad picks

[digital cliff]

but clearly turning some switches on and off in UEFI made it work so it's not a physical issue

[fickle ore]

Intel needs Cadence exp to boost IFS outside sales

[brisk topaz]

Bad bios

[ashen spindle]

maybe, but keep in mind LBT is from cadence, could be seen as biased

[steady sail]

Dont worry their next cpu with 52 cores fixes everything

[ashen spindle]

its just a lot of shuffeling which is never great until much later at best and right now they are ina short term issue

[jaunty ivy]

What model mobo?

[umbral heron]

PEE-core configuration best, trust

[devout raptor]

do I need a nas or can I just host shit from my laptop whenever I need

[digital cliff]

no shit

that's why never again assus

I dug around and found out what I did to make it work: Memory Context Restore: Enabled

without this, dGPU and EXPO is no-go

[umbral heron]

You can host stuff from your laptop with SMB/Samba, will basically be the same thing as NAS

[jaunty ivy]

But what was the model?

[digital cliff]

iGPU and EXPO works

[fickle ore]

Yeah def but they expect 2027 to become profitable on IFS side and their design side is a cash cow. Meanwhile that $21B + 5.7B +2.0B cashpile waiting to be spent on R&D, FABs and whatnot

[brisk topaz]

So bypassing ram training made it work. Did you rule out the ram sticks themselves?

[fickle ore]

50B debt hurts tho but its not overly bad debt/equity

[brisk topaz]

Also gg gigabyte typical from them

[jaunty ivy]

That can be an issue for stability, but also speeds up boot times. It's helpful when it works but shouldn't be enabled by default

[devout raptor]

Okay I will figure out what all that is cuz me dont know anything about this stuff

[digital cliff]

nope

[digital cliff]

AssUs b650 plus wifi

[brisk topaz]

Could have been bad ram

[ashen spindle]

I do like how it feels like 5 people are trying to find an issue on fleimis board thats long worked around and just normal xmp issues on am5 lmfao

[brisk topaz]

Thats a you issue not a common issue

[jaunty ivy]

There are 6 different asus board with that name

[digital cliff]

most idiotic thing also is that most options in the uefi are set to "AUTO" by default, so you don't actually know whether that's on or off

[umbral heron]

That's sharing protocol that most of devices are compatible with and is de facto standard in NAS world, just called File sharing/SMB on Windows, Samba on Linux/macOS

[gentle osprey]

Yeah, I never really rule out brands because of one bad experience, shit happens , some people never have an issue and some people do

[devout raptor]

Ooh okay nice

[jaunty ivy]

Was it asus tuf or prime?

[devout raptor]

I gotta figure out how to get jellyfin on the samsung tv

[digital cliff]

I literally do not know how to even figure this out

[devout raptor]

its prime you already said that

[brisk topaz]

Lmao did it say tuf in the mobo name or prime or rog strix

[digital cliff]

oh cpu-x says TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI

[devout raptor]

oh

[brisk topaz]

Asus tuf and asus prime is literal ass

[devout raptor]

Lol I cant raid

read*

[steady sail]

Not really

[brisk topaz]

Friends dont let friends buy asus prime or asus tuf

[brisk topaz]

To me they are. I love asus rog strix line though

[devout raptor]

me with my tuf motherboard that was the cheapast b850 available with a fuck ton of features

[steady sail]

Its the same as the tuf tho

[brisk topaz]

No it isnt

[jaunty ivy]

Well if you bought prime then its probably a mobo issue because majority of them are awful. If it was tuf, then its just unlucky or you got shitty ram

[steady sail]

U just pay more for the ROG logo

[devout raptor]

NO BRO STRIX IS OP!

[digital cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-information-cat-cat-funny-my-reaction-to-that-information-cat-gif-27427556

[brisk topaz]

Hey now cut it with that attitude 😠

[umbral heron]

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/07/googles_ai_cites_written_by_ai

[steady sail]

How nvidia write their drivers

[devout raptor]

ouroboros moment

[gentle osprey]

30% of Windows is written by AI

[devout raptor]

asus utility of what ever is the worst shit ever

[steady sail]

Why do you even use it ?

[devout raptor]

used it to get all the drivers and such

[steady sail]

Ah

Understandable

[devout raptor]

after that it was completely useless bloat and was annoying to uninstall

[steady sail]

My mobo is still on the bios and stuff that was installed on it

I maybe updated the chipset driver

[devout raptor]

it should be the expectation that stuff works out of the box but sadly not

[steady sail]

But the bios is from 2024

[devout raptor]

dang

I updated bios just in case because 9800x3d

[steady sail]

Im still on am4

It was cheaper for me to just buy a new am4 board than to switch to am5

[umbral heron]

I remember I panicked for a second after swapping CPUs but then realized "aaah, bios update"

[devout raptor]

did that to get ryzen 5600 to work on a b450 mobo

[steady sail]

I spent 150€ on a am4 mobo instead of 700€ on a full new am5 system

Lovely 700€

[umbral heron]

And the fact that 5800X3D is still to this day up there
1080Ti legendary status

[steady sail]

I can play Forza 5 on Maxed out Ultra with 180fps

[steady sail]

Yeah i mean if i would be stupid i would just buy a 5090

Like i dont need more than this

70fps in cp77 on RT psycho

[umbral heron]

I gotta check on mine

[gentle osprey]

I personally like to have about 90-120 fps in my single player games but that’s pretty solid for those specs

[steady sail]

Im fine with a stable 60fps

[gentle osprey]

Yeah everyone different

[umbral heron]

I aim for 70

[gentle osprey]

I don’t shame

[umbral heron]

1/4 of refresh rate of my monitor

[steady sail]

I mean with RT on max with FSR 4 Balanced im happy with that 70fps

[gentle osprey]

Right yeah that’s why I said that’s pretty solid

[steady sail]

I mean Native AA in cp77 at Ultra is nice

[devout raptor]

for single player 120fps is my sweet spot and multiplayer/comp 200 minimum is ideal

most comp games run past that but call of duty not so much

[reef patrol]

It begins... Doing some final benchmark comparisons for when my waterblock and PSU lands for my 9070XT.

[nimble arch]

https://9to5mac.com/2025/09/09/another-plex-data-breach-sees-company-urge-users-to-change-their-password/

Any Plex enjoyers?

[reef patrol]

Some random Indian guy in a datacenter
What the fuck is this view history? Cringe! Cringe!

[tribal dirge]

Emails and usernames is outch, hashed passwords is literally garbage

[patent carbon]

This is a great Jellyfin advertisement imo

Daily reminder to support open source

[umbral heron]

Plex: needs account and initial internet access
Jellyfin: doesn't
Simple

[rough patrol]

Meanwhile

I still havent set up my nas that i‘ll throw jellyfin on

Its been like 3 years of me thinking i‘d do it any way

[patent carbon]

Plex: requires money
Jellyfin: doesn't

[pale sigil]

And that's why I'll always use random passwords lol

[pale sigil]

Plex didn't used to unless you wanted music but now they forced it haha

[patent carbon]

I used paid for a lifetime Plex account in like 2015? Something like that. Switched to Jellyfin 4 years ago and never looked back because I got tired of Plex pushing random streaming services on my users. Also, remember Plex Arcade?

[pale sigil]

Wdym pushing random services

I wouldn't say it "pushes is"

It just shows where content is available if it's not available on Plex....

[patent carbon]

I wouldn't know if it's changed, but last I used it if you searched something that was on already on my server, it would still bring up, say, Amazon Video as the default source to stream for the user. Or Tubi. Or anything.

Which is fine if the user sets up all their current streaming services through Plex, and want to use it as their only client for streaming, but that wasn't quite what it was doing - people would get results to things they didn't have accounts for.

[reef patrol]

Is this a joke I am too offline to understand?
Nothing is showing except for any content I've specifically added myself.

[patent carbon]

Like I said, it may no longer be this way - been 4 years since I've used Plex.

[vagrant pagoda]

plex has required money for the app and gpu trasncode for decade

[umbral heron]

GPU transcode?

[patent carbon]

Besides that, Jellyfin tends to support new hardware/tech before Plex.

[patent carbon]

The best way to transcode.

[vagrant pagoda]

as someone who had a plex lifetime a decade ago

[reef patrol]

I don't even have a dGPU in mine...

[vagrant pagoda]

though its jellyfin now

[umbral heron]

I know, that's why it's crazy they paywalled it

[vagrant pagoda]

intel igpus are killer for plex

and am5 works too

[reef patrol]

I use a Ryzen 2200G. That's all I need for a single viewer at a time with 1080P as the max.

[vagrant pagoda]

arc is like amazing tier for gpu trascode

i want b50 so bad

[plucky tapir]

My NAS is too weak to transcode even 1080P at times, I have some older 1080P H264 10-bit stuff and no player will play it natively.

[umbral heron]

A310 is still a solid option for cheap JellyFin box for 4K stuff

[vagrant pagoda]

$350 use for 16gb of vram, no limit on vm or transcode and maineline native linux drives

all at 75w is like amazing

just waiting for sr-iov to hit mainline

[umbral heron]

A310 is 90€ here
I might actually pick it up now

[patent carbon]

I have my homelab as a kubernetes cluster. My main node is also a 120TB NAS that serves NFS to an Intel 13th gen NUC that does the transcoding for clients. It's a beautiful thing.

Been collecting Linux ISOs since 2002, so I have a lot of them.

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but b50 is like 5 times the gpu and vram

but yeah intels igpus and linux support has set them to be the best homeserver stuff

[patent carbon]

It's true, but complete overkill to have a dGPU for most users. A single iGPU of a modern CPU can support a dozen or more transcodes from 4k content.

[vagrant pagoda]

plus amazing idle power

a dozen? not even close

[plucky tapir]

I just want a new Shield TV that does AV1 so I don't need to transcode anything.

[umbral heron]

Sure, but I can stuck some 3600X I have laying around and be done with it

[vagrant pagoda]

if you overclock the igpu you might get 10

[umbral heron]

Wonder if iGPU in i5-4590T will do a 4k stream

[vagrant pagoda]

easily

i dont thin a single intel igpu wont do a single 4k

[umbral heron]

That's what I have in my Thinkcentre box, maybe it's a good idea to use it for JellyFin box instead

[vagrant pagoda]

the limit is a memory bandwisth and size thing

and even ddr3 igpus had enough for a single

only issue would be doing h265, so stick to 264

i think first gen cores didnt even have encode, though

[patent carbon]

This is not true. Try for youself if you have the hardware.

I have use this Intel CPU with iGPU:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/232155/intel-core-i71360p-processor-18m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz/specifications.html

It's an Iris XE iGPU in an ASUS NUC13ANK-B (non Intel NUC)

[vagrant pagoda]

i dont have any first gen intel igpus to gets

my only first gen core is a x58

13th gen is realy good

[vagrant pagoda]

that has a killer igpu fam

[plucky tapir]

My DS1520+ has an Intel Celeron J4125 and it can't transcode shit.

[patent carbon]

Yep!

[rough patrol]

maybe i can salvage an old 4000 series cpu to use for my nas

[patent carbon]

That's what I said, modern generation iGPUs, I think even a UHD770 can manage about a dozen 4k transcodes

[umbral heron]

HEVC encode is since 7th gen, right?

[plucky tapir]

Anyone tried the new nas from UGREEN DXP 6800/8800?

[patent carbon]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/encode-and-decode-capabilities-for-7th-generation-intel-core-processors-and-newer.html

[vagrant pagoda]

i said i dont think any WONT do a single 4k

not that they wont do multiple

[patent carbon]

Oh, apologies, I misread! 🫢

[vagrant pagoda]

sb might have issues depending on the encode

but haswell woulud have no issues

[patent carbon]

This would be great. Someone get Jensen on it, ASAP.

[plucky tapir]

Also, current Shield can't do YouTube HDR either so need that.

[umbral heron]

Alright, SFF ThinkCentre with i3-8100T costs 60€, I can do that

[patent carbon]

Yeah, it'd be nice to have a Shield with some TensorCores to use Nvidia's AutoHDR

I'd buy that real fast

[vagrant pagoda]

im waitnig for new shield with sw2 chip

[plucky tapir]

Android is dead to me next year if they implement no sideloading of apps. I don't even know what alternative I would use.

[vagrant pagoda]

as sw1 used shield chip

and get even got the die shrink

[vagrant pagoda]

it will be broken

like everything else android dose

[plucky tapir]

Yeah but then you'll need root and other stuff and you might end up with normal apps not working because they can detect root and then you need to hide it and it's a cat and mouse game all the time where something breaks.

[vagrant pagoda]

eh it isnt really

[plucky tapir]

It's why I stopped using root on phone when apps, esp banking stuff stopped working.

[vagrant pagoda]

the cat and mouse is only if you use the built in os updates

[plucky tapir]

It was only for devices with google services or was it everything?

Could potentically get something like the Zidoo Z9x Pro I guess because that has none of that afaik.

Dunno how EU will feel, they went after Apple for not allowing alternative stores etc and now Google wants to do the same pretty much.

[pale sigil]

Oh right I forgot about that

[umbral heron]

Google will try doing something and not only saying something then pretty sure EU will step in

[vagrant pagoda]

google allows anything techically

[pale sigil]

But also only iOS and Android or use for like $4 one off no?

[vagrant pagoda]

they just make all appdevs register for a cert

so its techically not closed

[umbral heron]

I mean, sure, you can sign everything with Studio cert or just add unsigned apps via adb

[plucky tapir]

Yeah but they will not allow certs for stuff like Mihon or SmartTube.

[ashen spindle]

until there is a case of them denying a cert for dumb reason there isnt anything that steps afoudl of EU laws so far

[vagrant pagoda]

its more that some devs wont want to get a cert

or second appstores still needing their apps signed by google

[ashen spindle]

yeah but not wanting to get a cert isnt going to be a reason that the EU woudl do anything about it

[vagrant pagoda]

i think what we will see is epople getting certs and just leaking them

[ashen spindle]

so its not really similar to the apple limitations

[vagrant pagoda]

its an offline check google will have to push updates for every cert that is blocked

and i doubt it will uninstall if the cert gets nuked

[umbral heron]

Wonder if they'll update cert database via Play Services or Play Protect

[steady sail]

Or both

Or they make a new service for that

[umbral heron]

I just wish there was a way to say "f off, I don't want security from you"

[vagrant pagoda]

there is its called oem unlock

[steady sail]

Diy android

[umbral heron]

I don't want to install ROMs again

[vagrant pagoda]

then just buy chinaman phones

[umbral heron]

I mean, overall
Like we get the whole enshittification in the name of "security" mostly
I don't want this security anymore

[vagrant pagoda]

youre getting secruity from them not spying on you XD

[fickle ore]

Nokia made a new phone!
https://www.nokia.com/newsroom/nokia-expands-defense-portfolio-with-two-advanced-tactical-communication-solutions/

[plucky tapir]

Anyone had their OLED monitor replaced or fixed? I've had my current one for less than 2 years and had to send it in for repair because of burn in.

[ashen spindle]

whats the question you want to ask about it

[patent carbon]

Don't need the phone, at least that I'm aware of, but that tactical radio seems bad ass and I hope they do a consumer version, or make that one publically available.

[fickle ore]

One of those phones might be good in a bad situation just in case

[patent carbon]

I also just moved to Finland this year from the US, so I'm rooting for Nokia.

[fickle ore]

if its cheap might get it

[fickle ore]

Wow nice, hope ur liking it there

[plucky tapir]

Their experience I guess? I've been babying this monitor like crazy and still got issues in less than 2 years. I dunno if I can keep using OLED if this is the normal experience, I'll need a new 1500-2000 euro monitor every 2 years which is crazy.

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whuHuM9h88M

[vagrant pagoda]

it would do you zero good as you have no band licence

[patent carbon]

Loving it! I'm coming from Michigan in the US, so the weather is more or less the same, but with a bit more/less sunlight (depending on the season), but the politics here don't give me existential stress...

[patent carbon]

Not up-to-speed on this tech, tbh. What would I need, as just a dude, to make it work as expected?

[fickle ore]

Haha. That's probably right but winter is coming

[vagrant pagoda]

a shit ton of money

[patent carbon]

Would it be feasible to expect a provider to allow service of such a thing?

[vagrant pagoda]

wtf would a comsumer do with that?

[plucky tapir]

Mine looks very similar to his and he is trying to fuck his on purpose.

[vagrant pagoda]

that is a 5g downlink microcell

[fickle ore]

https://www.traficom.fi/en/communications/radio-licences-and-frequencies/frequency-planning-and-use/qualifications-and
Maybe something like that?

[patent carbon]

Maybe I'm not understanding the use-case, I thought of it as a sort-of meshtastic device with 5g capabilities...

[vagrant pagoda]

amature bands cant get encrypted at all, have limited encoding and can only be single stream

[vagrant pagoda]

kind of

its a microcell

obvs you cant use cell towers in war

so that is a mini 5g encrypted microcell

that would connect either satlink or someother backhual radio

its so those fancy cellphones work

[patent carbon]

So the main issue is, even if I had the device, I'd need it to connect to a broader network, one I don't have license for

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont really want mesh networking in war becuase then youre repeating data

you need a license to operate that device with no backhaul

[patent carbon]

Got it, thanks for taking the time to explain that to me!

[vagrant pagoda]

private 4g is in the order of 100k+ a year for single site + cost per sim

and thats renting a band for a small area

buying a band to operate yourself and getting the equpiment would be millions upfront and million+ per year

if you want a localish long range data get lowha

802.11ah

its 900mhz wifi,good for a few mile

install a tower at your house with a base sttion

then get some chinaman gmrs radaios

between the two you have data and voice for a few miles around your house

[patent carbon]

I just learned about meshtastic and am kinda interested in playing with the tech; don't really have usecases tbh, but it is just intriguing

I like the idea of a self-hosted network

[vagrant pagoda]

I have both, and have looked into micro 4g cell because my cell has dual sim, and it wuld be dopaf to have a 4g link back to house instead of 4g

and it was like insane costs

[patent carbon]

Sounds fun though!

[vagrant pagoda]

so i just have 900mhz->2.4/5 in in the car

im currently using it via my laptop

[fickle ore]

better do eurojackpot today Shrinedogg

[vagrant pagoda]

mylaptop has a alfa ah card as second wifi

and its nromall has a 4g card in the secon slot so 900mhz works mostly

i have a dock for it, and have a better antenna on the car

in the dock i get like 2-3 miles

[patent carbon]

Ah, okay, makes sense - pretty cool stuff. I need to learn more about it.

[vagrant pagoda]

but dont tell the fcc im over erp

i have 1w transmitt which is max spec, but i also have a 9 dbi omni

[fickle ore]

FML broke my phone cant see shit on teh screen

how can I populate it to show my files on PC?

[plucky tapir]

does touch still work?

[fickle ore]

no

[nimble arch]

Apple event soon

[patent carbon]

What about if you plug it in via cable to your PC?

[vagrant pagoda]

wont work unless you already set it up

[fickle ore]

yee its fked

[vagrant pagoda]

you have to accept the usb

[astral haven]

Does the phone have USBC video? You can hook a dock to it and a mouse

[vagrant pagoda]

that could work

[astral haven]

Microsoft link to windows works but also needs perms

[vagrant pagoda]

@astral haven you ever dont long range stuff?

[astral haven]

Not really no
Just wifi p2p

[dull hollow]

2 and 1/2 hours

[nimble arch]

Reportedly we might be able to order AirPods Pro 3 today

[vagrant pagoda]

900 mhz is sweeeet

[nimble arch]

My wallet is ready

[vagrant pagoda]

was my end goal with the 7220

im still wating on a working dock

but with no dock i get over a mile

[astral haven]

Ah wifi?

[vagrant pagoda]

just a 40ft tower with a 9dbi

yeah

[astral haven]

Fun

[dull hollow]

im sitll on gen 1s

[vagrant pagoda]

pole ap at house and AHM27292U in laptop

[nimble arch]

I intend on upgrading to AirPods Pro 3 from the original Pro model

[vagrant pagoda]

get multi mbps at a mile

[dull hollow]

i wonder if theyll say anything about a new ipad pro

[vagrant pagoda]

im hopeing with dual 9dbi i can manage 4 miles

my buddy has a 50 foot tower for gmrs there

[nimble arch]

iPad and MacBook is usually October or November

[vagrant pagoda]

so if it reachs ill get another 9dbi and ap

[nimble arch]

It's probably just iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPods today.