you can check in task manager in the performance tab if you dont know what cpu/gpu you have
#🔌│tech
ashen spindle
merry falcon
i dont now so much about teck and pc and some stuff
gusty kiln
typical cycle
ashen spindle
thats why I'm telling you how to check
can't tell you if you can fix anything without knowing what the hardware is
old marlin
Oh damn, I didn't know, congrats
fickle ore
tyty kiddos already like 1 yo
ashen spindle
welp guess his laptop died
plush stirrup
My isp just told me I have to divide wifi speed by 4 (amount of people) like whaaa how do they get a job there
So devide 60 by 4 to get wifi speed per person 😅
halcyon moss
Weird
vapid ruin
https://youtu.be/XlKCBGzrB1I?si=ELcqVHISFTys1Sv-
very noice, from game looking like ps3 to looking like ps4. With more optimization, maybe in a year or 2, games and console going to be optimized to make it look like late ps4/early ps5 game.
ashen spindle
boy do I love ps4 looks when ps6 is about to be here 
unkempt lake
boy do I love ps4 looks when ps6 is about to be here <:dogekek:11342560201563177...
it's a handheld
ashen spindle
its got a docked mode
unkempt lake
indeed
ashen spindle
you aint going to see ps5 style in handheld mode
vapid ruin
if game play good, I don't mind
unkempt lake
Still nice for people who only own a switch
ashen spindle
not nice that it costs about the same as a modern ps though lmao
unkempt lake
not nice that it costs about the same as a modern ps though lmao
Can you take your ps on the go? No
ashen spindle
you could also put better hardware in so its more efficent and can do better when docked
ampere as a gpu generation was kinda shit for low power in comparison
vapid ruin
ada lovelace would've been nice
unkempt lake
selling last month’s hardware for next year’s prices
You're right we should buy a 1000$ rog ally instead
What a great alternative 🤣
ashen spindle
why are you just making up points nobody said
nintendo could just do what console makers used to do and sell them at a slight loss so the hardware isnt garbage in comparison
unkempt lake
nintendo could just do what console makers used to do and sell them at a slight ...
The hardware is fine for the price
Steam deck 256gb + steam deck dock cost me around the same
And the steam deck official dock was one of the worse piece of shit i purchased
Still can't believe valve even sells it
And before you say i coulda gotten a third party dock for lessi got the official one specifically to avoid issues xD
ashen spindle
the deck is selling like 1/100th of the units
unkempt lake
ok and? Steam makes 30% profit on games
ashen spindle
that means they cant get stuff as cheap due to lower quantity so the comparison doesnt make sense
unkempt lake
lmao
ah yes valve can't get subsidized parts
from their massive profits
Give me a fucking break
ashen spindle
if you order 1 million or 100 million parts, yes there is a difference in cost
and we dont know if the deck is sold with margin, loss or parity
unkempt lake
and we dont know if the deck is sold with margin, loss or parity
We just know gaben called the pricing painful
ashen spindle
its also released in 2022 using tech from 2020/2021, switch 2 in 2025 is using 2020 tech
also pretty sure the deck had a 399 option
lunar elm
the switch 2 isnt impressive at all xd
frozen ingot
more like last decades hardware
brisk topaz
On an asus b650-a rog strix gaming wifi motherboard, will i be fine if i fill all three of the nvme slots with m.2 ssd’s or would i run into slower speeds from the ssd’s or slow my cpu down ?
7600x3d cpu.
ashen spindle
no
you never slow the cpu down and if slots deactivate other slots you read that in the board manual
brisk topaz
you never slow the cpu down and if slots deactivate other slots you read that in...
Alright ill try to find that in the manual ty.
So it says 1 and 2 are ran by cpu and unhindered by speed. Slot 3 is linked to my second pcie x16 gpu slot marked slot #2 my gpu is in slot #1 i have no plans to use slot #2 and it says its active at full speed on nvme slot 3 as long as pcie slot #2 is unused. So i should be fine to use all 3 nvme slots?
ashen spindle
yes
brisk topaz
Thank you. Adding two sk hynix p41 platinum 2tb drives
fallow summit
Hey guys so I’m trying to put the SSD into this adaptor but it won’t go in
ashen spindle
you put it int he right one, angle it a little bit from the top at first, pus it in and then you can push it down to screw it in place
reef patrol
What part doesn't go in exactly?
fallow summit
This is as far as it goes
brisk topaz
sn850x is often cheaper thats what I usually check first
Costs more rn but they have a 4tb version hmmmmmm
brisk topaz
This is as far as it goes
Wiggle it
ashen spindle
This is as far as it goes
fallow summit
Up and down or side to side? Lmfao
ashen spindle
try that timestamp it shows how to install it
brisk topaz
Up and down or side to side? Lmfao
Side to side gently dont force it
It will gently work itself in just be very gentle its fragile
That pcie nvme adapter might be out of spec though?
ashen spindle
you can see he applys some force in that video but not a ton
fallow summit
Yeah idk I’m trying but can’t seem to get it
I got it in lmao
Now this stuff do I need all of this or what?
brisk topaz
That pcie adapter is out of spec im thinking
brisk topaz
Now this stuff do I need all of this or what?
Spare parts.
fallow summit
That pcie adapter is out of spec im thinking
Like I don’t need it?
brisk topaz
Like I don’t need it?
You got it in right? Its fine
brisk topaz
Now this stuff do I need all of this or what?
Spare thermal pads screws and spare sata cable. Un needed
ashen spindle
yes you shouldnt need the other parts, thats for if you have a sata ssd on it
since you have just the nvme ssd on it the pcie slot alone should suffice
fallow summit
Okay but now idk what screw I need for the SSD
brisk topaz
Okay but now idk what screw I need for the SSD
Look in your box. See the plastic wrapped screws?
The small black ones with the silver standoffs. Use one black screw to secure the ssd. Be careful with it
fallow summit
These?
Also I found the instructions but yall said I didn’t need this stuff correct? Also in videos I looked at they never sued this stuff
reef patrol
Can't hurt to add.
fallow summit
Am I good now?
ashen spindle
yup
ashen spindle
you can, those are the things closing the panel on the backside but only if you want them there
fallow summit
I’m confused I wanted to try putting it in but I don’t think it fits
fallow summit
It goes in here right? I was told last time
exotic plinth
It goes in here right? I was told last time
No. Lookup your motherboard manual
exotic plinth
On m2 spot
fallow summit
I have a B45 tomahawk max but I don’t know where
exotic plinth
That's pcie ports
exotic plinth
thats why hes using the adapter
OOH
ashen spindle
so yes the pcie slot is where you put it
fallow summit
But it doesn’t go in 😂😂
exotic plinth
Thats explainz
fallow summit
Can I hop in a call with someone 😂😂
I got it in but it’s lowkey loose
Yes I know my pc is dirty rn
If this part is in and stuff am I good to turn on the pc?
exotic plinth
I got it in but it’s lowkey loose
Did you lie your pc flat?
fallow summit
No
fallow summit
I never put in a GPU
This video shows me tug it a bit and wiggle the parts that like don’t go in
exotic plinth
Did it click
exotic plinth
If it did, it should be in
plush stirrup
Aren't you missing a bracket to screw it in place? Like this
fallow summit
They said I didn’t need it
fallow summit
If it did, it should be in
If I turn the pc on and it isn’t fully in it just won’t work right? But nothing like bad can happen?
loud hemlock
you technically dont need it but i like to install it anyway so it fits more snugly
brisk topaz
If I turn the pc on and it isn’t fully in it just won’t work right? But nothing ...
It will boot up notice its shorting since not fully seated then shut down on its own
plush stirrup
They said I didn’t need it
I mean I guess you don't but if you ever move your pc it's best if it's just held in place...
Who said you don't need it? and do you have it? If you have it might aswell use it 🙂
fallow summit
It will boot up notice its shorting since not fully seated then shut down on its...
Really? Even tho my os is on my other SSD?
fallow summit
Who said you don't need it? and do you have it? If you have it might aswell use ...
I do have it
plush stirrup
Really? Even tho my os is on my other SSD?
I mean if it shorts, your pc not booting up is the best thing that's gonna happen 🥲
plush stirrup
I do have it
So just use it 😄
fallow summit
But nothing bad happens to the the pc it’s self right?
brisk topaz
But nothing bad happens to the the pc it’s self right?
Nothing bad will happen your pc just wont post
fallow summit
Okay
brisk topaz
I had a pc where i couldnt figure out why it was shutting down on bootup for the longest time. The power cable for the cd drive wasnt fully pushed in. Pushed it in and it booted
fallow summit
It booted
brisk topaz
Pc’s have room for error to prevent damage
fallow summit
I’m in now
brisk topaz
Nice
plush stirrup
Nothing bad will happen your pc just wont post
What's your source for pcie short circuit protections btw?
fallow summit
Aren’t I supposed to see it here?
brisk topaz
What's your source for pcie short circuit protections btw?
My personal experience with previous builds lol
exotic plinth
Aren’t I supposed to see it here?
New volume e
exotic plinth
Hm
plush stirrup
My personal experience with previous builds lol
You short pcie slots that often...?
fallow summit
I can’t remove the adaptor until the Pc is off even tho it’s not reading it right?
brisk topaz
You short pcie slots that often...?
No this was way back in the 90’s when i was a complete noob
plush stirrup
fair enough, though if something shorts is is always possible something breaks, short circuit protection is, even if it's present unlikely to be advertised.
frozen ingot
I feel like pc hardware was harder to kill back in those days too
exotic plinth
fair enough, though if something shorts is is always possible something breaks, ...
Isint shorting issue mainly on psu
brisk topaz
fair enough, though if something shorts is is always possible something breaks, ...
Depends on the short
brisk topaz
I feel like pc hardware was harder to kill back in those days too
It was. Hardware back then was more durable for sure
Didnt have these bs tiny fragile pins that bend and break easy
plush stirrup
Isint shorting issue mainly on psu
well, what feeds the motherboard, psu, but psu will likely have short circuit protection though if it survives a short circuit I'm not sure it might just burn a fuse. But it could break a small little component on a motherboard it just depend on what you short and what breaks because of it.
brisk topaz
Had thick solid connectors that were built like tanks
frozen ingot
larger manufacturing process on chipsets and parts in general too, and things ran a bit higher in voltage
brisk topaz
larger manufacturing process on chipsets and parts in general too, and things ra...
My i5 2500k took 5.7ghz and an insane amount of voltage. I wanna say 1.75v? 1.5v? Its been so long
5.3ghz?
It was all high numbers for its time and was stable
exotic plinth
My i5 2500k took 5.7ghz and an insane amount of voltage. I wanna say 1.75v? 1.5v...
How many Watts tho
frozen ingot
cpus in the 90s had vcores around 2-3.6v
fallow summit
Guys what do I do since it’s not reading it?
somber coral
9070xt for 650 cad is pretty good right
frozen ingot
nothing like todays wattage ofc but its typically the volts that causes esd damage
brisk topaz
Is the sk hynix p41 platinum bad due to the write issues?
rough osprey
rip fancontrol and openrgb (and so on)
fallow summit
Anyone know what I can do to get it to read the adaptor and SSD?
When I put it in there is no click or nothing
reef patrol
Adaptor SHOULD automatically have drivers installed, if you're using Windows?
Still have to format the SSD via the disk manager though
fallow summit
Still have to format the SSD via the disk manager though
It won’t show it there
reef patrol
- Open "Device Manager" and hit refresh. See if anything pops up.
brisk topaz
Tab looks like its pushed down still? I cant tell
fallow summit
it was lol but i closed it
brisk topaz
It’s in but never heard a click or anything
fallow summit
It was only open for the photo rq
But yeah no like feedback when putting it in and I decided to boot back up rn and it still won’t detect it so idk what to do now
brisk topaz
But yeah no like feedback when putting it in and I decided to boot back up rn an...
Go to disk manager see if you can find it in there to format and partition it
reef patrol
Device Manager doesn't show it at all?
fair gull
inb4 inserted the wrong way around
reef patrol
That's not device manager.
fallow summit
it jsut shows my ssd and HD
fallow summit
That's not device manager.
I thought this is where I go to see it
reef patrol
fallow summit
fair gull
the bottom also clearly can scroll so there might be a third disk
fallow summit
still no
fallow summit
~~the bottom also clearly can scroll so there might be a third disk~~
I see what you mean that it scrolls like if a 3rd is supposed to be there but it isn’t
fallow summit
No one said I did 😂😂
fair gull
the circle part
goes to the back of the case
not to the latch
also please use the port below the one you put it in
fallow summit
Wym the back? Like the circle part faces my glass panel
fair gull
so you cant do it the wrong way round
fair gull
Wym the back? Like the circle part faces my glass panel
no your ssds basically hang off the card
brisk topaz
you put the card in the wrong way round
LOL
fallow summit
also please use the port below the one you put it in
Wym?
fair gull
oh wait your port below is 1x
just turn it 180degrees
the fingers that were circled in the image you sent? the gold ones? those go towards the back of your PC
brisk topaz
I dont mean to laugh ive been here before but im laughing
brisk topaz
Nah it’s all good lmao
Ive made similar mistakes
fair gull
fallow summit
So the way it is rn is wrong
brisk topaz
I kinda expected to be laughed at
Its just funny when people mess up lol
fallow summit
Ok
fair gull
i hope it didnt fry anything
brisk topaz
So the way it is rn is wrong
Yes
fallow summit
So my SSD hands upside down
fair gull
unsure what the pins at the end are but they might just be data
brisk topaz
i hope it didnt fry anything
Pretty sure pcie is low power data and he needs to plug power into that 4? Pin socket
So he should be fine
brisk topaz
Whats the connector for then
reef patrol
Probably a "just in case" connector if I had to guess.
vagrant pagoda
75W is 75W
\its not x16 so 25w
fair gull
Whats the connector for then
sata
reef patrol
\its not x16 so 25w
Oh is the extra power in the additional lines? I thought those were purely data. TIL
vagrant pagoda
Oh is the extra power in the additional lines? I thought those were purely data....
purely spec limited
all the power pins are in the first 20
reef patrol
fallow summit
I’m tryna put it in now but it doesn’t actually go in
vagrant pagoda
but thats why x8 gpus have x16 connectores
they are pci sig compliant if they only had x8 and need 75w of slot power
its the same reason 6 and 8 pin have the same number of 12v lines, its to spec the device
fallow summit
Also when I do “put it in” and latch it lmfao it comes out pretty easily when I tug on it to see that it’s actually in
vagrant pagoda
if youre motherboard has 2 x16 slots it has to be able to send 75w to both
fair gull
Also when I do “put it in” and latch it lmfao it comes out pretty easily when I ...
it has no latch
vagrant pagoda
if it has 7 x16 slots it has to have 75w for all 7
fair gull
thats why
fallow summit
So it’s fine that it’s doing that?
vagrant pagoda
its a cheap adatper withouth a bracket
fair gull
for screwing in the backside
fair gull
no
vagrant pagoda
yes
fair gull
the connector isnt in right
fallow summit
What part?
fair gull
its like way too far right
fallow summit
Ok
fair gull
there is a small bridge in the connector to the left
that goes where the gap is between the golden pins
ignore the text in the image
fallow summit
I can’t go left tho because the red circle part doesn’t allow me
vagrant pagoda
I can’t go left tho because the red circle part doesn’t allow me
that should be past the socket
fair gull
boosted contrast so you can see what needs to line up
and yeah that shouldnt be inside the socket
wait i even picked the wrong one
thats the part that should go outside
there we go
fallow summit
fair gull
also please dont turn the pc on until its in right
fallow summit
Like this?
fair gull
looks fine
all the pins are pushed outward that should be
as in there is a card making contact with them
fallow summit
Doing it this was required more force to get it in. Is that okay?
fair gull
yes
it should be kinda snug
its not breaking amounts of force just overcome friction force
fallow summit
I boot up now?
fair gull
yes
fallow summit
its not breaking amounts of force just overcome friction force
No yeah I made sure to slowly increase force 😂😂I’ve seen videos of people breaking ram slots
Oh it shows power now
I never knew it had a light
fair gull
yeah cause its connected to the power pins in the "front" of the connector
fallow summit
fair gull
the small section
fallow summit
Normally I’m not this brain dead with tech but PC parts is where I suck 💀
what is this?
fair gull
it means it found your disk
do gpt and ok
then it shows up as unformatted in the disk list and you can create a partition NTFS formatted on it
chose a drive letter you like
fair gull
yeah the defaults are fine
meybe change the label
basically names the disk for how it shows up in "my computer"
fallow summit
damn already did it
fair gull
can rename it later without formatting dw
reef patrol
fair gull
the label is stored on disk but the PC really doesnt care what you set as a label as it doesnt use it for anything except showing you the label
fallow summit
so this can be wtv i want?
fair gull
tin files what
fair gull
did you mean so i change this name
i mean here
narrow nymph
Hello! i got wooting 60he and my macros wont work if i press any other button at the same time is there any fix for that? thanks!
fallow summit
i made a typo lol yeah i meant in files
reef patrol
Hello! i got wooting 60he and my macros wont work if i press any other button at...
Make a thread in #1019755933959733258 and show your macros.
fallow summit
Thank you so much guys!!
narrow nymph
Thanks!
fallow summit
Real quick lol so the second slot here I have I can’t use another SSD like mine right bcs the spot to slide it in is reversed right?
also its telling me this waht do i do?
fair gull
its keyed differently
fair gull
also its telling me this waht do i do?
you might need to actually pick a drive letter thats not A or B
this might be some microsoft bullshittery
you cna change the letter without formatting as well in disk manager
fallow summit
this might be some microsoft bullshittery
Yeah it is I had to do the same process I was already doing but through my profile and stuff
fair gull
ah
frozen ingot
are A: and B: still reserved for disk drives and stuff in 2025
fallow summit
Yeah I did this earlier but you said I was formatting it 😂😂
fair gull
Real quick lol so the second slot here I have I can’t use another SSD like mine ...
anyway no its keyed differently
fallow summit
Okay
fair gull
one is m.2 B key thats the left one on the pic and one is m.2 m key which is the right one
usually m key is nvme and b key is sata
so if you install smth in the other slot youll prob need the sata cable port and connect a sata cable from there to a port on your motherboard
reef patrol
are A: and B: still reserved for disk drives and stuff in 2025
Probably just trying to use the drive root for games, which is verboten.
Windows gets pissy with non admin specific rights to do anything in root these days. Gotta be a subfolder.
somber coral
This look legit?
frozen ingot
graphics card
mental helm
This look legit?
Go to amazon, generate and invoice on one of your orders and compare the two and decide for yourself
Looks funky to me idk
somber coral
does it matter whicdh end of an ethernet cable is plugged into what?
glass stag
does it matter whicdh end of an ethernet cable is plugged into what?
Yes, one end goes in the internet machine and the other end goes in the not internet machine
bright briar
brisk topaz
Yes 9070 xt
brisk topaz
@bright briar hows my build
unkempt lake
your build? I thought you purchased a prebuilt
no i told him what to buy
And he did xd
digital cliff
that was like 2 days ago though
unkempt lake
yes
digital cliff
makes sense
unkempt lake
they're lucky there they're not stuck ordering everything online smh
brisk topaz
your build? I thought you purchased a prebuilt
Does it look clean enough to look like a prebuilt
brisk topaz
did he just pick them off his shelf?
I drove to microcenter built it same day
glass stag
Thought for a second that warning sticker was gonna say "No Lysol allowed"
brisk topaz
Thought for a second that warning sticker was gonna say "No Lysol allowed"
I was tempted to write that on it
brisk topaz
Sucks to suck
lyric hatch
I helped order a custom PC for my friend in Korea and it was built and at his door 6 hours after he ordered it
brisk topaz
I helped order a custom PC for my friend in Korea and it was built and at his do...
Asians be asianing
lunar elm
evga mouse the fuck
old marlin
yea they aren't exactly a new player in that space
and the X12 is already 3 years old
brisk topaz
evga mouse the fuck
Evga still exists?
nimble arch
Yes, they weren't exclusively a GPU vendor.
It was, however, the majority of their business.
lunar elm
I swear I read somewhere that they were so choked by nvidia their profit margin was like $4 on some card (dont remember which)
nimble arch
It was that being an AIB partner with NVIDIA was just difficult.
NVIDIA probably could freeze out the entire mainstream AIB business if they really wanted to.
lunar elm
https://youtu.be/ladCeM1wZqc?si=AlGANo-Ae1nQrP8M they call me 007 (0 kills 0 deaths 7 times the plot armour)
brisk topaz
https://youtu.be/ladCeM1wZqc?si=AlGANo-Ae1nQrP8M they call me 007 (0 kills 0 dea...
Looks like a low budget splinter cell with a 007 skin over it. Dollar tree version of splinter cell. Im good
007 games were better as nightfire and agent under fire
brisk topaz
I wanna see a new Splinter Cell game
I do but i dont. Todays ubisoft would mess it up so bad
steady sail
Ubi should sell a few of their IPs
brisk topaz
Id rather see blackfoot studios make a new splinter cell game. Let the og devs make it
brisk topaz
Ubi should sell a few of their IPs
Sell all tom clancy to the og’s at blackfoot studios
steady sail
Thats not gonna happen
brisk topaz
I wish though
reef patrol
Ye gods this thing is difficult to read. I just want a good PSU man xD
steady sail
I would love to see a complete other and newer studio make a Splinter Cell game
steady sail
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6J...
Idk its waaaay too complicated
brisk topaz
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6J...
2024 corsair rmx 750/850/1000w
The atx 3.1 psu
reef patrol
Only gold though...
reef patrol
Yes - Because I pay the power bill, and Power isn't cheap in Denmark 😄
reef patrol
It's almost three years out of date - So I don't agree with "better" 😄
reef patrol
Be quiet's never let me down warranty wise, so the Power Zone 2 could be an option. Even if it doesn't get an A tier ranking. Not like I'm running a 5090 and a 24 core Ryzen though 😄
brisk topaz
850w? 1000w?
reef patrol
850W so I have a chance of upgrading GPU to something larger later in case I need to. I thought my current PSU was 750W but it turns out it was 650W all along.
brisk topaz
Jonnyguru is at corsairs psu department
Corsair is king of psu because of him
Will come with sleeved cables and all
reef patrol
Hmm... tempting. As much as I loathe supporting Corsair, it does seem to get really good reviews. Definitely doesn't need to be small factor though 😄
old marlin
the psus are good
brisk topaz
instead of am RM(e/x)
He said he wants platinum
steady sail
Tbh i would just overspend on my PSU and go with a SuperFlower/Seasonic/SilverStone
old marlin
I have heard of a few issues with 12V rail dying
brisk topaz
Hmm... tempting. As much as I loathe supporting Corsair, it does seem to get rea...
I only like corsair for psu nothing else at all. Jonnyguru is king of psu
old marlin
He said he wants platinum
would honestly ignore 80+ ratings
brisk topaz
Tbh i would just overspend on my PSU and go with a SuperFlower/Seasonic/SilverSt...
All three brands dropped off in quality
old marlin
and just look at cybernetics
brisk topaz
would honestly ignore 80+ ratings
He said he wants it. Not me
brisk topaz
and just look at cybernetics
Thats why i recommended the new rmx850
reef patrol
I use it purely for power usage efficiency, not a stamp of quality 😄
brisk topaz
But he insisted on platinum but the new rmx850 is the best psu
reef patrol
I pay around 100€ a month in electricity, and I don't need that to change where possible, heh.
brisk topaz
I have this exact psu
Has a knob on the back to manually control the fan or turn it off for auto fan
Comes with good sleeved cables
old marlin
I use it purely for power usage efficiency, not a stamp of quality 😄
yea cybernetics has also updated standards for efficiency to cover not-so edge cases like idle
rotund wigeon
is this normal: 7600x3d
reef patrol
is this normal: 7600x3d
Sure?
brisk topaz
is this normal: 7600x3d
Yes. My cpu usage is the same. Same cpu
When using wootility.
old marlin
chromium moment
rotund wigeon
it isnt even open
brisk topaz
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020270-na/rmx-series-rm850x-fully-modula...
@reef patrol get this psu
old marlin
it isnt even open
it shouldn't ever go to tray afaik
rotund wigeon
like in the background or something
old marlin
yea just kill it with taskmanager
reef patrol
That's the problem - Wootility sometimes bugs out in rare instances, and the debugger that runs is eating up CPU. Force close it.
alpine patio
thats gold tho
old marlin
it shouldn't linger around after closing it
reef patrol
Whatever we use to run the browser (I forgot what it's called), will sometimes randomly start a debugger (when the app is closed). It's a frustrating issue we're trying to squash for good.
rotund wigeon
thank you so much for the help ❤️ ❤️
brisk topaz
Whatever we use to run the browser (I forgot what it's called), will sometimes r...
Chromium?
old marlin
Whatever we use to run the browser (I forgot what it's called), will sometimes r...
electron presumably?
reef patrol
Electron, yeah.
Hopefully once we get the background service up and running, we'll have a better way to diagnose and force close it? Not really my department 😄
old marlin
anyways, if you really want platinum you should prob check how much a prime platinum or a leadex VII platinum Pro is for you atm
brisk topaz
When will wootility be an installable app
alpine patio
it is
reef patrol
When will wootility be an installable app
It's been since... 2016 😄
old marlin
kinda
reef patrol
It still runs a browser window so to speak, but it IS an app.
old marlin
oh wtf
some amazon seller is selling the Silverstone Sst-ST1000-PTS - Strider for 120€
that is a stupid good deal
oh wait nvm
that was the horrible strider 💀
reef patrol
brisk topaz
Bro wtf i was thinking in my head how i wanna get back into osrs didnt even type it anywhere or say it out loud nothing only thought it. 3 min later osrs ads keep poppign up
Thats legit creepy and weird
reef patrol
Alright. One RMX purchased.
old marlin
ehhh
the e is technically better than the x
even though corsair doesn't wanna admit that 
still good tho regardless
old marlin
yea dw
very minute changes
the regular rm, rmx and rme basically only exist for marketing reasons
they are different but there is no real reason for all 3 lines to exist
reef patrol
And now a week of mentally preparing for a total teardown of my PC (well almost) and recabling everything 😄
It'll be interesting to see if I still have all the screws for my 3080 to turn it back on air (noisy as it is)
old marlin
warm ore
evga mouse the fuck
Thats the X12, i have three of them, good mouse actually.
reef patrol
Phew... my wallet's feeling a lot lighter now. Total cost of upgrade (ignoring any tubing and coolant I have already on hand) 9070XT comes to.... 1080€
For the GPU, PSU and Waterblock. 
The 3080 lasted... 4 years and change. Not bad tbh. And I guess my SO can inherit it for her Sims gaming 😄
brisk topaz
Alright. One RMX purchased.
The rmx850 i linked?
reef patrol
The 2024 gen 3.1 one yeah
brisk topaz
The 2024 gen 3.1 one yeah
Sweet! Its an awesome psu. I love being able to fine tune the fan for it with a knob. Makes me miss my old build with fan controllers on the front where the disk drive bays were
brisk topaz
Phew... my wallet's feeling a lot lighter now. Total cost of upgrade (ignoring a...
Which 9070 xt did you get in particular
brisk topaz
What’s better 4080 super or 7900xtx for raw performance
1% difference check how each performs in the games you wanna play
viral hatch
1% difference check how each performs in the games you wanna play
Ah ok tu
brisk topaz
the e is *technically* better than the x
Im seeing the rme is a b+ psu while the rmx is an a+ psu?
reef patrol
Which 9070 xt did you get in particular
Uhh the Reaper.
Doesn't really matter which one, since it's going on water anyway.
brisk topaz
Oh?
reef patrol
viral hatch
I got a strat
I buy 4090 for one thousand pounds
Then buy of the rest of the parts
brisk topaz
https://imgur.com/a/QVTYZp7
Im more interested in that sexy beast to the left
warm ore
Then buy of the rest of the parts
Most based take i read recently
viral hatch
Most based take i read recently
Ye
reef patrol
Im more interested in that sexy beast to the left
Ongoing project to turn a dead Mac Classic into a Raspberry Pi based retro machine.
brisk topaz
She even has a floppy disk drive
brisk topaz
I love it. That brings back childhood memories mansen
My very first video gsme was played on one of those translucent macs with the rainbow apple logo
warm ore
Only thing to keep in mind, if you do that with a tight budget, you can run into bottlenecks quick, make sure your CPU/memory/mobo is scaled accordingly
reef patrol
Yeah the G3. Used to have one. Replaced it with the early G4 Imac, which I still have somewhere.
viral hatch
Only thing to keep in mind, if you do that with a tight budget, you can run into...
Ok dw I will get 9800x3d
warm ore
Ohh ok
brisk topaz
Yeah the G3. Used to have one. Replaced it with the early G4 Imac, which I still...
Yep that one
warm ore
Don't get the cheapest mobo there is either though :D
reef patrol
I keep my G4 around to play old Mac games that can't be emulated (yet)
brisk topaz
Ok dw I will get 9800x3d
viral hatch
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007092/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d,-asus-b650e-e-tu...
I live in England ):
umbral heron
My condolences 
brisk topaz
I live in England ):
Damn thats rough
warm ore
I don't have time to research it for you, but try to find some X870 or X870E midrange atleast, anything that doesn't kill CPUs and has good components on them (specifically voltage regulation components should be the more quality).
Not sure who does deep component analysis, maybe BZ still does that.
viral hatch
Damn thats rough
Ye I’m cooked
viral hatch
I don't have time to research it for you, but try to find some X870 or X870E mid...
Alr thanks
viral hatch
Atleast now I can research bc I finished my homework for med school
umbral heron
X870 is a waste of money unless you need something specific from there
viral hatch
I want WiFi 6e
brisk topaz
I want WiFi 6e
Just hardwire it. Wifi 6e is a scam
I noticed nothing going from wifi 5 to 6e
viral hatch
Just hardwire it. Wifi 6e is a scam
Ah ok nvm I got Ethernet anyway
umbral heron
B850 will have WIFI6e too, like MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI6E
viral hatch
I see a 5080 for 700 pounds should I get that
brisk topaz
I have asus rog strix b650-a gaming wifi and its a solid motherboard
viral hatch
I have asus rog strix b650-a gaming wifi and its a solid motherboard
How much was that?
brisk topaz
How much was that?
It was in a combo from microcenter
brisk topaz
Its $200 retail i got it for $136.32 in the combo package
viral hatch
Its $200 retail i got it for $136.32 in the combo package
Yeah I’m cooked
I need to travel to USA
But 5080 is a solid card right)
umbral heron
Sure is 
brisk topaz
But 5080 is a solid card right)
Sure if you like nvidia. Im amd bias
viral hatch
Sure if you like nvidia. Im amd bias
I don’t mind I just want best performance for 1000 pound s
I wish amd release something like the 9080 xt
umbral heron
Me too 
brisk topaz
I wish amd release something like the 9080 xt
9070 xt is solid
warm ore
@viral hatch You can find affordable choices for both chipsets, the B one is more targetted towards budget, and X for enthusiast.
But finding the latter midrange with good components and features is totally affordable and viable, if you can find a B thats comparable and doesn't have worse quality components put on it (usually they do, that and feature cuts are what makes them relatively more affordable) then you can totally get away.
The approach should first of all always be, what CPU and GPU i'm getting, and only secondarily what budget i have.
You should be scaling your choices from top to bottom, not vice versa.
viral hatch
<@1193241131882905791> You can find affordable choices for both chipsets, the B ...
Ah ok
My max budget is 1800 and my graphics card is 700
umbral heron
X chipset is only if you go for overclocking
B is good for 99% of choices
warm ore
No, nobody said anything about OC
ashen spindle
X chipset is for more lanes before it’s for more OC headroom
warm ore
I went into detail what to look for in fact
umbral heron
No, nobody said anything about OC
Yeah, and that's why there's no reason to go for X chipset
umbral heron
B850 is your fren 
warm ore
There is reason, you just personally don't care to understand it
viral hatch
B850 is your fren <:neko_salute:1381638944726450216>
Ok (:
umbral heron
There is reason, you just personally don't care to understand it
Explain then
Becuase as for right now all I see last few days is you spreading misinformation and pushing X870 on everyone
ashen spindle
Motherboards are simple, you check what connectivity is needed then just sort by ascending price and for 99% of people b650/b850 is the cheaper option that does the same
viral hatch
Am getting this
warm ore
I'm not spreading anything, this is the first time i'm talking about X870 specifically, my only interest is to help others with my own experience and knowledge.
marsh glade
All good as long as everyone stays unbiased
(btw Wooting the best, no bias here fr fr)
viral hatch
All good as long as everyone stays unbiased
(btw Wooting the best, no bias here ...
Ye wooting diffs
ashen spindle
You can just get an air cooler for like 30 and it does the same
viral hatch
Rlly?
ashen spindle
Yeah
viral hatch
Is this good?
ashen spindle
Water cooling is completely unnecessary for these cpus
viral hatch
For 9800x3d
ashen spindle
Would have to look, thermalright has the best cheap ones usually
Peerless assassin or phantom spirit for example
ashen spindle
Anything with a open front so it’s good for airflow
young bough
Get liquid cool
warm ore
All good as long as everyone stays unbiased
(btw Wooting the best, no bias here ...
That should be the goal, and helping people make informed decisions and to research.
You could also get the Thermalright Frozen Notte 240 or 360, very affordable yet competitive AiO.
So no need to choose between price and air/liquid.
ashen spindle
Yeah but you’re just adding pump noise and options for the tubing to leak and all for no gain really
Air cooler you can use probably for the next decade+
warm ore
I hear nothing of this pump, leak is nearly zero chance, and your CPU can get several degrees less, especially in the summer.
Which equals holding clocks longer or higher possibly.
ashen spindle
Doubt it since I don’t imagine you reach 95c and am5 cpus can go all out against the thermal limit as design choice
umbral heron
I pushed mine to 90C yesterday 
Then the fan kicked in 
iron wave
So, Linus and Linus might make a video.
ashen spindle
torvalds
aka torvalds is going to regret with how many people will interact with him afterwads from the ltt crowd
iron wave
Yeah, could be fun.
iron wave
aka torvalds is going to regret with how many people will interact with him afte...
From the sounds of things he might not like interacting with the LMG staff.
marsh glade
inb4 the worshiped guy goes on video and millions of people get to learn the lesson of "don't meet your heros" at once
ashen spindle
idk if anyone is delusional about torvalds being the nicest guy ever they never used linux
hes not a monster by any means but hes an engineer not LTT host person xD
iron wave
Yeah, it'll be interesting to hear what goes down.
umbral heron
idk if anyone is delusional about torvalds being the nicest guy ever they never ...
It's enough to see one mail from lists 
reef patrol
Linus and Linux
iron wave
Linus might be building Linus a Linux computer.
digital cliff
Does it look clean enough to look like a prebuilt
not sure what that means
iron wave
It just looks like a computer.
reef patrol
If anything prebuilts can be messier than doing it yourself 😄
frozen ingot
Does it look clean enough to look like a prebuilt
the cables above the cpu cooler does not, the rest looks reasonably tidy
lunar elm
If anything prebuilts can be messier than doing it yourself 😄
buy a prebuilt> find out the prebuilt has a gigabyte psu and that its explosive by a friend
Well fuck.
(im that friend)
frozen ingot
I just don't buy prebuilt because its more expensive and you don't get to decide on specific parts
warm ore
https://www.claimdepot.com/settlements/ddr4-and-ddr5-desktop-memory-speed-settlement this might interest US citizens
ashen spindle
God sometimes lawsuits are so dumb
Pointless outcome that mostly fills the lawyers pockets and maybe some people get 5$
reef patrol
Very vague reasoning given - Is this just selling RAM with XMP speeds, instead of JEDEC?
ashen spindle
Sound like it
reef patrol
While I agree that the whole thing could be handled a LOT better by manufacturers and standard makers, this is just stupid. Corsair aren't the ones making decisions here, they're literally just following norms.
ashen spindle
Yeah the topic has issues but Corsair isn’t at fault really but still cheaper to settle I guess for them
ashen spindle
what a truly impressive lawsuit when these are your sources, almost feel sorry for corsair..
ashen spindle
for once its not america its just lawyers going for money where the topic can be abused well enough so the other side woudl rather just settle
lunar elm
that looks like corsair was like “whatever”
ashen spindle
its a big company so im not sad about it but its still stupid and just wasted lawyer/court time and money
lunar elm
this is like the only time im siding with corsair apart from their sfx psus
unkempt lake
While I agree that the whole thing could be handled a LOT better by manufacturer...
A bunch of pc noobs buy ram never knowing that xmp is a thing
I think it's genuinely problematic
reef patrol
Exactly. And it takes knowledge that not all motherboards and CPUs support all RAM speeds - or indeed all RAM kits from different vendors that have seemingly identical specs.
unkempt lake
Nico's friend bought faster corsair ram a year ago and just based himself on the numbers in the packaging, never turned on xmp
Like the way things are marketted really arent clear to the avg person
Especially with cpus using xmp in marketting slides
ashen spindle
yeah but its not corsairs faul when intel or amd use xmp for marketing
unkempt lake
I know i blame intel and amd more than corsair
ashen spindle
so basically what mansen said
unkempt lake
- not every cpu can even reach those speeds
Which makes the thing even shittier
I think amd and intel should just stop advertising with xmp/expo on
And telling reviewers they HAVE to use xmp
ashen spindle
neither of them are telling that to reviewers
unkempt lake
neither of them are telling that to reviewers
Its literally in the review guides they send out
Which reviewers generally follow
I remember hbu mentionning it
ashen spindle
yeah they recommend it because thats what most people do
unkempt lake
And GN when the whole expo x3d explotano thjng happenned
ashen spindle
and review guides arent a must follow up
ashen spindle
neither intel nor amd would stop sampling if they dont follow review guides
GN, kitguru I think and others dont follow them already for a while
unkempt lake
neither intel nor amd would stop sampling if they dont follow review guides
Smaller channels probably would
ashen spindle
which have less reach so it matters less because less people see that
unkempt lake
Still i think both the small guys and the big channels deserve the same amount of leeway
ashen spindle
they still dont HAVE to follow guides its just to make it easier and helps validate data if someone gets a different result
viral hatch
neither of them are telling that to reviewers
People are telling me to liquid cool the 9800x3d should I)
loud hemlock
People are telling me to liquid cool the 9800x3d should I)
water cooling is stupid overrated
i have my 9800x3d on a like 40 euro cooler and it's fine
ashen spindle
People are telling me to liquid cool the 9800x3d should I)
it give you like 0 benefits aside from liking the looks
viral hatch
it give you like 0 benefits aside from liking the looks
Ok I adding it to cart
loud hemlock
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO
paid 45 euro for it, cools the cpu perfectly fine
ashen spindle
possible upsides:
better if you live in egypt I guess
possible donwsides:
anything from pump breaking, fluid leaking, it just not holding as long etc.
ashen spindle
dont get that ssd
loud hemlock
yeah that ssd looks sus
viral hatch
Which one should I get
ashen spindle
whats the prices for a sn850x
loud hemlock
p41 platinum is pretty good too
ashen spindle
yeah that is a good price usually as well, the p41 I mean
viral hatch
Is 100 for a 2tb
ashen spindle
yeah thats a good deal and the sn850x doesnt use the slower memory that the kingston has
loud hemlock
it's not as good as the other two we said but it's better than the one you have afaik
look for a crucial t500 as well (still not as good as the first 2 we said)
ashen spindle
still using QCL so there will be times where its just slower
halcyon moss
As if you notice a difference in ssd speeds
ashen spindle
you do, QLC is cheap for a reason
if you copy things or when the lifetime goes down faster
halcyon moss
So in day to day, gaming.. Little difference?
ashen spindle
well it can be noticed when you install a game or move files around, the small difference in loading screens no but the prices are almost identical
and they have a much worse life expectancy
so its just not worth it
somber coral
What the fuck is this socket since none of my hex keys wanna go in
reef patrol
Doesn't look like a socket.
Looks like a pin. Does it look like that on the other side?
somber coral
Looks like a pin. Does it look like that on the other side?
the top on the other side is flat, bottom looks the same though
ashen spindle
doesnt seem like something made to be taken out
vagrant pagoda
thats a rivet, no unscrewing
reef patrol
Rivet, thank you. That's the name I was looking for.
Might be to derivet to pull it apart and then revivet it.
Not sure you'll be able to tighten it though.
viral hatch
Alr I ordered it
It’s arriving in two days
Is it possible that the 5080 super releases very soon
If that’s true I might have to cancel my 5080
radiant ferry
Where would I go to report a problem I faced immediately after updating my wootility?
ashen spindle
you also have a good deal on your 5080 so its not like you'd be paying same price for that
lunar elm
If that’s true I might have to cancel my 5080
the 5080 itself is kinda underpowered for native 4k itfp
viral hatch
very soon? no, likely before christmas
I can wait for January
lunar elm
if ur in 1440p its the best card for it rn apart from the xx90s
dull hollow
What the fuck is this socket since none of my hex keys wanna go in
it should be here
radiant ferry
<#1019755933959733258>
Thanks bud
ashen spindle
I can wait for January
I mean it could be double what you pay for for 5% more
it might not even come out at all
viral hatch
Ye
Lemme find some bids and try and find a 4090
I found a 4090 for 800
Imma cop it
I also found this ssd @ashen spindle
radiant ferry
awesome
ashen spindle
yeah that one is fine
warm ore
Is it possible that the 5080 super releases very soon
October
warm ore
It's on Guru3d or TPU, i forget which, go check the article.
ashen spindle
yes its a rumor
there is nothing official at all anywhere
and they all use the same "source" which is a youtuber that just makes shit up half the time
warm ore
If it's on there it's pretty much gonna be reality, you are just waiting for NVIDIA to say it.
ashen spindle
??? no its not
making an article from a guy whos specualting doesnt make it more real than not
its the same guy who said 5080 was coming out june last year
ashen spindle
that sounds like a scam ngl
gusty kiln
are you sure it's not "for parts"
ashen spindle
feel free to gamble if its a working one I guess
viral hatch
Well I am a black belt in kung fu so if they try to Indians Scam me
Should I go with my police friend
ashen spindle
I mean unless you can try it at their place how would you know
viral hatch
I mean unless you can try it at their place how would you know
Yeah that’s what imma do
reef patrol
You can't test a card in a car boot. Even if it's legit, it might be dead.
ashen spindle
up to you I suppose
viral hatch
Ok i will pick it up and test
lunar elm
he’s my fav guy to scam bro trust me frfr
viral hatch
Wdym
vagrant pagoda
You can't test a card in a car boot. Even if it's legit, it might be dead.
i do that all the time
just bring pc and a power bank
reef patrol
gentle osprey
gentle osprey
I found 5090 for 1100
If it’s too good to be true, it probably is
vagrant pagoda
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZO4u2hBwOxU?si=0RRQ69c3lVKSvsnS
this has been known for a long time
gentle osprey
I mean I knew personally
Just sharing it here
I already knew am5 was gonna go on for awhile
viral hatch
If it’s too good to be true, it probably is
O like taking risk is it isn’t it’s fair
vagrant pagoda
ddr6 isnt ready for volume production so no am6
pale sigil
ngl im surprised i get this much on a powerline
oops dupe images
good enough for a garden AP
vapid ruin
ddr6 isnt ready for volume production so no am6
can't wait for that, wanna see how faster it is for AI
vagrant pagoda
it wont make much difference
vapid ruin
i mean, if it can go from 200t/s prefill to 300t/s prefill it's already pretty nice
not to mention the optimization that might be done to the backend when that's ready
vagrant pagoda
issue is dram-cpu-pcie limits
gusty kiln
I already knew am5 was gonna go on for awhile
Can it match am4 though, am4 just got the 5500x3d recently
vagrant pagoda
the whole point of cxl, is for pcie-pcie transfers
gusty kiln
Man I really want a 5950x3d
vagrant pagoda
even if you move to ddr6 and pcie6, they both are a double in speed
vapid ruin
issue is dram-cpu-pcie limits
im not talking about gpu inference, I'm talking about pure CPU inference.
gentle osprey
There’s always a bottleneck somewhere
vapid ruin
apple users, the framework destop, and people who have 2tb of ram to run deepseek
vagrant pagoda
apple has hetero memory so it wont matter anyway
warm ore
Man I really want a 5950x3d
Sadly they called that quits early, but there are better options now
vagrant pagoda
Man I really want a 5950x3d
scheduling will also kill having mixed cached size cores
vagrant pagoda
apple users, the framework destop, and people who have 2tb of ram to run deepsee...
m has wide as fuck hetrogenous memory, not really an issue
sharp badger
Seems like Fancontrol has been flagged as malware
gentle osprey
Seems like Fancontrol has been flagged as malware
It always is
sharp badger
Yeah, Windows flagged it for me
warm ore
AM5 will be better than AM4 <:PepeBusiness:1207771707763466301>
Already is from several perspectives, people like me just like to keep coping on older platforms
vagrant pagoda
m3 ultra is running the equivalent of 16 channel dram
vagrant pagoda
i mean if you arent running a 5090 at 1080p, you wont notice anything going from a 5800x3d to a 9800x3d
sharp badger
Yeah reading about it right now and seems like MS have started flagging it
vagrant pagoda
if you run 1440 or 4k ultra you get a few percent boost from am5 vs am4
gentle osprey
Already is from several perspectives, people like me just like to keep coping on...
lol yeah, I’m not shaming anyone for being on AM4, it’s a great platform and it’s aged very well comparatively
I was more so just repeating what MLID said
warm ore
lol yeah, I’m not shaming anyone for being on AM4, it’s a great platform and it’...
i'm also just joking that time, except i'm actually still on AM4, but not for any performance reasons
gentle osprey
Yeah fair enough
warm ore
Planning to build finally again end of this year (if all goes to plan)
Or if by some miracle i'm patient, the next gen of both CPUs and GPUs
gentle osprey
i mean if you arent running a 5090 at 1080p, you wont notice anything going from...
Yeah it surprises me how much people don’t understand cpu scaling
I think it’s a vocal minority tho
vagrant pagoda
they forget consoles exist
gentle osprey
I would like to think most people do understand
vagrant pagoda
scaling gpu is way easier than scaling cpu
gentle osprey
Yeah
gentle osprey
Or if by some miracle i'm patient, the next gen of both CPUs and GPUs
I say you wait for these
Worst case scenario the next gen sucks and you can get what you were planning on anyway for cheaper
warm ore
They do scale and i think the difference above mentioned is a little bit bigger than presented.
Admittedly as you guys say, CPUs scale much less than GPUs, but then again average citizen isn't running 5090 either.
This will also vary heavily from game to game, plus staying with the older platform (like me) will limit you from things like DDR5.
vagrant pagoda
the wild thing about am4 is the differnce bewteen a 1800x and a 5800x3d
at release the 1800x barely matched a 4790k, and got beat handelly 20%+ by 7700ks
a 5800x3d in the same motherboard would net you like 100% gains in some titles
warm ore
Worst case scenario the next gen sucks and you can get what you were planning on...
Theres no hurry really, i have much less time to game with work nowadays. Every decision will depend on how good the hardware is what we get. Ideally just gonna get the top end for both (but i might give it some time for people to "beta" test).
As we probably all know no release is smooth, especially recently.
gentle osprey
Yeah that’s why I said just wait to see what comes out, no need to rush into it
warm ore
Or who knows, maybe the christmas bonus will be so high that i'M just gonna say eff it and build end of the year, and just repeat a year or 1,5 years after again. Afterall thats the problem with being a hardware enthusiast, never satisfied or satiated 
gentle osprey
That’s how I am lol
lunar elm
if you run 1440 or 4k ultra you get a few percent boost from am5 vs am4
dlss has entered the chat
(upscaling in general)
gentle osprey
In terms of this game, 9800X3D is only about 6% faster at 1440p
As the test goes on, it end up being 18% faster at 1440p
43% faster for 1% Lows
rough osprey
43% faster for 1% Lows
damn
gentle osprey
I be chasing them 1% Lows
rough osprey
very important
gentle osprey
warm ore
I would too, and even if the diff somehow stayed flat +6%, there are still several factors for which i would upgrade.
gusty kiln
As the test goes on, it end up being 18% faster at 1440p
I'm just glad my 5800x3d is still very playable on bf6. When I played bf1 my 4460 was STRUUGLING.
And a used 4770 was very overpriced at the time
ashen spindle
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZO4u2hBwOxU?si=0RRQ69c3lVKSvsnS
mlid
aka random guess still
even getting zen6 on am5 was a very highly contested battle internally at AMD so zen7 I dont believe for a moment
gentle osprey
I'm just glad my 5800x3d is still very playable on bf6. When I played bf1 my 446...
Yeah AM4 aged well
gentle osprey
>mlid
aka random guess still
Hahaha yeah I always take what he says with a grain of salt but it’s fun to speculate
ashen spindle
also at that point its not even beneficial for socket longevity anymore
vagrant pagoda
dlss has entered the chat
dlss dosent use more cpu though
ashen spindle
because if you still use a b650 board for zen7 you dont have boards that can do the memory speeds that would make sense
gentle osprey
Yeah true
ashen spindle
also you would really be lacking pcie lanes at that point
frozen ingot
Yeah AM4 aged well
meanwhile AM5 barely cools down from the production line before it bakes itself
ashen spindle
I could see an AM5+ maybe for a higher end with zen6 to have better boards
gentle osprey
meanwhile AM5 barely cools down from the production line before it bakes itself
You referring to the voltage issues like with AsRock boards?
gentle osprey
I could see an AM5+ maybe for a higher end with zen6 to have better boards
Yeah I wouldn’t mind that
vagrant pagoda
43% faster for 1% Lows
what is the ratio for averge vs 1% though
gentle osprey
what is the ratio for averge vs 1% though
Lemme grab a screenshot real quick
frozen ingot
You referring to the voltage issues like with AsRock boards?
yep, got to experience it in person the other week
vagrant pagoda
if there is a 20-30% drop in average then its notthat bad
vagrant pagoda
I could see an AM5+ maybe for a higher end with zen6 to have better boards
better what
frozen ingot
luckily the cpu survived
ashen spindle
better what
usable high end pcie lane count
gentle osprey
@vagrant pagoda
vagrant pagoda
usable high end pcie lane count
there isnt more lanes form the cpu without new socket
ashen spindle
if you want a platform for more than consumer (1 gpu and 1-2 ssds) am5 is kinda shit
vagrant pagoda
so that isnt gonna do much
ashen spindle
there are unused pins on AM5 that could be used on a revision
gentle osprey
yep, got to experience it in person the other week <:dogekek:1134256020156317706...
Oh damn, sorry to hear that, yeah idk what AsRock doing
vagrant pagoda
there are unused pins on AM5 that could be used on a revision
half of the pins are for testing there arent that many unused
gentle osprey
In the early days of AM5 it was mainly ASUS boards but now it’s good and AsRock frying CPUs now
And AsRock is technically part of ASUS so idk
frozen ingot
I went to the store with the dead mobo and got a replacement instantly though
gentle osprey
That’s good
vagrant pagoda
and am5 supports dual x8 gpus and 2 pcie5 x4 ssds via cpu lanes
frozen ingot
flashed it with a day old bios update via usb stick before I even mounted the parts on it so hopefully its patched out now 
vagrant pagoda
thats more than 90% of consumers
then you get a gen4 and gen3 ssd off the chipset
ashen spindle
yeah hence I said for more than consumer
vagrant pagoda
then youre in threadrippers market lol
ashen spindle
because anything higher for a nas or anything intel is the vastly superior option
nope dont need TR to want more lanes
vagrant pagoda
because anything higher for a nas or anything intel is the vastly superior optio...
intel gives you 24?
amd gives you 24
idk where you think you get more lanes on consumer
and if i rememeber 4 of the lanes on intel are still 4.0
unkempt lake
You referring to the voltage issues like with AsRock boards?
2 people in the server had issues already lol
@distant tapir also had his 9800x3d chip die in his asrock mobo
unkempt lake
my asrock board is kind
did you update your bios
There was a new one like
Last week?
rough osprey
im on 7800x3d 
distant tapir
<@219102235571912705> also had his 9800x3d chip die in his asrock mobo
I'm still set on getting a new motherboard when I change case. Asrock lost my trust
unkempt lake
im on 7800x3d <:ReallyInnocent:1262003356000587817>
Then you're probably fine?
rough osprey
and probably gonna get a different board before getting a 9800x3d
unkempt lake
There's still reports but like
rough osprey
only having 3 fan headers is kinda annoying
unkempt lake
Its rarer
ashen spindle
intel gives you 24?
chispet, intel has double the lanes connected to chipset
brisk topaz
only having 3 fan headers is kinda annoying
Just get a 10 slot fan controller. Plug the header into your cha_fan1 slot and use a sata power cable to the fan header. Thats what i do every time. I dont even bother with the onboard fan headers. Then i can control all my case fans at once instead of individually too
brisk topaz
I'm still set on getting a new motherboard when I change case. Asrock lost my tr...
Asus has never ever done me wrong
Gigabyte msi asrock have
distant tapir
I'm set on MSI actually 
WHen I look it up, it seems to be the brand people prefer the BIOS of
But also the motherboard I found just looks cool which is a big part
rough osprey
Just get a 10 slot fan controller. Plug the header into your cha_fan1 slot and u...
i wanna have more individual control
brisk topaz
I didnt like msi when i had two exact gpu’s and they had visually different pcb components and the one that looked cheaper ended up dying and popping and went into flames in my case
Literal exact same sku’s
This was a long time ago but still
vagrant pagoda
chispet, intel has double the lanes connected to chipset
dmi 4.0 is 4.0 speed
gentle osprey
2 people in the server had issues already lol
That sucks, yeah I've been rocking the same board since I got AM5 which is ASUS X670E Hero
vagrant pagoda
so x8 4.0 is the same as x4 5.0
ashen spindle
AMD is 4 gen4
gentle osprey
actually I lie, I did have an MSI board at first
ashen spindle
intel is 8 gen4
ashen spindle
no then I wouldnt think its bad for a high end platform xD
gentle osprey
That sucks, yeah I've been rocking the same board since I got AM5 which is ASUS ...
I had a MSI MPG X670E Carbon before the ASUS board
distant tapir
I had a MSI MPG X670E Carbon before the ASUS board
That's the exact one I want
brisk topaz
I had a MSI MPG X670E Carbon before the ASUS board
Asus motherboards >>>>>>> unless its a tuf asus board then its ass
gentle osprey
I liked it a lot besides the dragon on the heatsink
vagrant pagoda
AMD is 4 gen4
still x4 4.0 lanes isnt killing a setup
sudden imp
Aren’t ASUS tuf boards decent value though?
brisk topaz
Aren’t ASUS tuf boards decent value though?
Never bothered with tuf. I only ever purposely aim for the rog strix line of motherboards
sudden imp
Ah
ashen spindle
yea I'm saying for high end its not great, for normal consumer b650 is amazing
unkempt lake
I had an msi mobo die in my life and they replaced it free of charge despite being 4 months out of warranty. Msi canada has a repair center in the country and is really good cs wise
vagrant pagoda
yea I'm saying for high end its not great, for normal consumer b650 is amazing
but intel isnt markedly better
unkempt lake
I had an msi mobo die in my life and they replaced it free of charge despite bei...
And i've liked my msi boards the most bios wise and besides that i haven't had many issues
sharp badger
Feels like it would be better to buy a good specced AM5 mobo with how long the AM4 has been supported
brisk topaz
I had an msi mobo die in my life and they replaced it free of charge despite bei...
See when my msi motherboard died they blamed it on me as the problem and wanted me to pay $450 in repair fees $75 in shipping and basically told me to go f myself. The mobo was a $120 board
gentle osprey
Now that I think about it, I've only ever had MSI or ASUS boards
unkempt lake
See when my msi motherboard died they blamed it on me as the problem and wanted ...
Then again the repair shitnis handled on a country by country basis
brisk topaz
I had too many msi problems in the past to recommend them ever again same with gigabyte
unkempt lake
The msi repair peeps here are cool
unkempt lake
Now that I think about it, I've only ever had MSI or ASUS boards
I had msi asus and gigabyte
brisk topaz
Asus is the only motherboard make ive never once had a single issue with ever ever. Including warranty and repairs.
sharp badger
Personally looking at X870E but splitting it out over years it's such a small cost
gentle osprey
Gigabyte always scared me but I did have a gigabyte 4090 at one point and it was fine
unkempt lake
Gigabyte... the bios layout sucked and the rgb software was awful