🔌│tech

[unkempt lake]

but... but... i got told only apple does this REEEE

[umbral heron]

You can either replace battery or use some AOSP ROM, like GrapheneOS, so... 2 things you can do? At least

[umbral heron]

Yes, but Apple users aren't bullied enough

[empty wren]

Luckily Google has not made it hard to unlock the bootloader yes

[unkempt lake]

bully me harder i use an iphone 14 pro uwu

[nimble arch]

Oh get back in your cage already

That's enough internet for today

[umbral heron]

See?

[ashen spindle]

they enjoy it though

[empty wren]

No jailbreak on iPhone though

[unkempt lake]

Now you're giving me flashbacks

Cydia <3

My beloved

[vagrant pagoda]

the good days of ios

the 3gs was bae

[nimble arch]

iOS 26 soon

[umbral heron]

I like hobbyist photographers

How is X lens photo quality compared to Y?
Look at reviews, but it's mostly the same
I look at reviews, it's literally the same
So why Y is 4x more expensive
Oh, mostly because AF motor in X is louder

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean thats a big deal if you take pics in quiet places

[umbral heron]

But not worth paying 4k€ instead of 950€
Also there's always MF

[vagrant pagoda]

the MF be smooth AF

[frozen ingot]

welp my not even a year old assrock board just dropped dead out of thin air

hopefully what's on the board is still intact

[unkempt lake]

OOF

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

@distant tapir

@frozen ingot you jinxed yourself

[frozen ingot]

yep was about to say

[reef patrol]

[frozen ingot]

but like really, no unusual crashes, no hickups, no nothing

and then just aight imma head out

I don't even run any of the sweaty high end cpus etc that most of the reports are about

[unkempt lake]

Was your bios up to date?

[unkempt lake]

Which no i'm not trying to pin the blame on you this shit is not acceptable on ASSrock's part

[distant tapir]

Thanks for reinforcing my opinion on getting a new motherboard

I was meant to receive my new CPU today but nope it has been delayed until Monday so I'll have to spend yet another weekend doing nothing. Thanks PostNord!

[frozen ingot]

no idea tbh, probably not

[unkempt lake]

You're lucky they didn't mysteriously make it explode

[frozen ingot]

think I last updated it around the time I built the pc which was october last year

[unkempt lake]

Yeah the fixes werent out by then

[distant tapir]

Since I am ordering a 4k 240 Hz oled tomorrow I have planned to switch to a slightly larger case that can fit regular ATX motherboards, so my selection has opened up significantly. I plan on upgrading my GPU

[unkempt lake]

But even with fixes this shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[frozen ingot]

so its probably a gamble whether the cpu is salvageable or not

[unkempt lake]

Basically

[frozen ingot]

dude am so tired of pc's at this point

I just want a machine that fucking works

[distant tapir]

Same

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/playstation-playstation-5-ps5-welcome-to-playstation-5-logo-gif-449576898666734210

[frozen ingot]

feels like the they just become more unreliable with every generation these days

[unkempt lake]

This is kinda why I prefer my switch 2 as a handheld over the steam deck

Unrelated but

Yeah

Switch 2 just does what i need it to do i dont have to update crap or whatever

No switching a proton version 3 times to find the one that works for my game

[frozen ingot]

every other mobo either random dies or fries the cpu, or the cpu oxidizes, or your gpu connector spontaneously combusts, or the card itself dies after cleaning

and so on and so on

[unkempt lake]

Yesterday was the first report of a 9070xt with 12vhpwr dying

Called it months ago

[frozen ingot]

and adding insult to injury this stuff is pricier than its ever been

[unkempt lake]

I'll say cpu wise it's not bad at all

The problem is more just everything else

Motherboards are crazy expensive

[frozen ingot]

yep great timing too

[unkempt lake]

You could get a top of the line board for 300 before now that gets you a mid range

Gpu wise a midrange card is like 500ish cad

[frozen ingot]

gonna vacation in 2ish weeks and was holding some extra cash for that

but noooo

[warm ore]

rock solid for a year, damn, what a standard we have today :D

[unkempt lake]

I remember working in a computer repair/sales shop back during the 10 series while i was studying and selling a bunch of 1050 tis for like 150cad...

[frozen ingot]

meanwhile the athlon xp I had back in like 2002 ran for like 6 years with a postage stamp sized cooler

[distant tapir]

Am I unreasonable if I want the MSI MPG Carbon X670E? I don't really need the features aside from three M.2 slots. I just think it looks cool and would look good in my setup

[unkempt lake]

That crushed any damn console out there and ran in any random prevuilt

[frozen ingot]

my pc's of the past were practically unkillable

[unkempt lake]

I mean looks are subjective, i personally dont care and look for the best deal

[distant tapir]

That's totally fair

[unkempt lake]

It's a really good board

[distant tapir]

The Carbon is very expensive

But I'd love to have it

[unkempt lake]

I use the msi x670e gaming plus wifi

[frozen ingot]

maybe I can still get warranty on the mobo

[unkempt lake]

Basically just a silver tomahawk with more usb ports

[distant tapir]

What is the diff between X670 and X670E?

[frozen ingot]

but will that one also spontaneously clock out within a year

[unkempt lake]

More lanes

[distant tapir]

What does more lains mean actually? More slots for something? More bandwidth for something?

[unkempt lake]

Means you can have more stuff connected to it at once

On an x670e you can have 4 nvme slots used and not lose functuonality

On an x670 you may lost a secondary pcie port if you do that

It really depends on the model and the diagram of how its set up

[frozen ingot]

are there indications that their bios fix actually fixes things

[distant tapir]

Okay, I understand

[unkempt lake]

They said so on gamers nexus during an interview

But that's about it really

They never really put it out there

Talking about upgrades

Nico is getting his 7600x3d + ram + b650 bundle monday

After it got lost lol

It was supposed to show up last monday xd

[frozen ingot]

if it actually fixes it I'd prefer just getting a warranty board over having to research another option and burn money on it

[unkempt lake]

I am a little worried about the fact that its an ASSus board but

It was literally free and the bundle was too good to pass up

[distant tapir]

At least it's not Assrock

[frozen ingot]

at least am not running a 9800X3D so I got that going for me

[unkempt lake]

And there haven't really been any issues reported on that board so...

Guess we giving asus a chance?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hiding-scared-cat-thaddeuswinter-thaddeus-winter-scared-gif-8846590460708131918

[frozen ingot]

my previous two boards were asus

[unkempt lake]

It was like a really good fucking deal

[steady sail]

I would buy that

[distant tapir]

Quite good

I might end up studying abroad in America next year in which case I might buy some nice stuff since things are significantly cheaper there

I never get great deals here

[unkempt lake]

Its gonna pair nicely with the 9060xt i bought him

[steady sail]

Oh for sure

[unkempt lake]

Big upgrade from 9700k + 2080

[distant tapir]

Omg my CPU arrived after all!

Time to pick it up

[steady sail]

Im gonna stick to my 58x3d till i can

[unkempt lake]

He was saving money for a gpu, i decided to surprise him with a 9060xt, then like a day later i saw this deal and showed it to him and he ordered it with the money he had saved up @steady sail

9070/9070xt woulda been a waste cuz... eventually i'll upgrade from my 7900xtx and just give him that

I did look to see oh maybe i can upgrade and give him my xtx but it was just

There's no upgrade path

For me besides a fucking 5090

Which i don't want

[steady sail]

I mean there is but it’s extremely expensive

[unkempt lake]

I don't want 3k cad firehazard

[steady sail]

I mean maybe the 5080 Super gonna be good for you ?

[unkempt lake]

Technically I could have waited for that

But nico is happy with the 9060xt and i was and still an happy with my 7900xtx

[steady sail]

So no reason for upgrading

[unkempt lake]

Exactly

Main thing that was pissing off nico was lack of vram on the 2080

Not lack of performance

He's not a super picky gamer he doesn't mind dropping a few settings

He just wants to have fun

And not have stutters

[steady sail]

Yeah my PC is perfect as i dont have that much stutters and i dont mind dropping some graphics settings lower to get a stable FPS experience instead of FSR

[unkempt lake]

So yeah a 9060xt was plenty and he's happy with his gift :)

I mean i think anyone would be happy if your wife gave you a brand new gpu

[steady sail]

Yes

[plush stirrup]

from what I experienced/saw they just break after a few months but don't catch on fire, so should be fine 😛

[steady sail]

Tbh i could wait for next gen X3D cpu’s and get a 9800x3d cheaper

But at the same time i dont need it xd

[ashen spindle]

you should, buy my 9800x3d when next gen is out so I have a buyer for it

[unkempt lake]

guys... i have a single anker charger

In my bedroom

I'm gonna die

[steady sail]

Idk for a 9070 non-xt i dont really need a 9800x3d at all

[unkempt lake]

I also own uh... 1 anker power strip?

my house gonna explode

[warm ore]

If it was AMD, thats a divorce

[unkempt lake]

oh :(

It was amd @warm ore

I got him a 9060xt

[warm ore]

unlucky

[unkempt lake]

Welp

Ill pack my stuff I failed him

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

he gon hate me

[warm ore]

It's okay, if it's a guy like Takko who likes those, you are fine .)

[steady sail]

[steady sail]

Huh

[plush stirrup]

same here, everything has issues xD asrock isn't the only one that destroyed cpu's before, and intel 13/14th gen issues also exist, my current pc sometimes gets stuck upon reboot due to memory training, which for some reason is a common issue

[distant tapir]

New CPU, who dis

[ashen spindle]

eat it

[plush stirrup]

Let's see if it works :3

[magic minnow]

What Mobo did you end up getting

[distant tapir]

Haven't bought one yet. Will do that when I get a new case

So not for a little while

[frozen ingot]

will this be compatible with assrock as well

[plush stirrup]

on AM5 sure 🤣

[thick elk]

Just wondering, between ASUS support, Asrock's failings on AM5, gigabyte's malware what has MSI done lately?

[balmy vector]

Kill people

[nimble arch]

Exist?

[plush stirrup]

euhh got hacked I think once though already a while ago, they also seem to have more memory issues on AM5 compared to other brands but I think that's about it?

Or twice

[frozen ingot]

not sure about lately, but they've tried bribing reviewers and being overall shady and manipulative

[thick elk]

Oh of course the data breach

[unkempt lake]

We should use Biostar motherboards

[frozen ingot]

GN even made a full length video about it at the time

[thick elk]

Hmm point is they all have their flaws whenever someone points to issues on one of them.

[frozen ingot]

I dunno they're probably alright quality-wise these days

[thick elk]

Or colorful, if only they had actually good bioses

[unkempt lake]

I just tried thinking of the like most uncommon brand i could think of lol

Only ever saw it in prebuilts xd

[frozen ingot]

but I member their 00s products looking third world cheap

[unkempt lake]

So like asrock at the time

[frozen ingot]

pretty much

[unkempt lake]

Asrock was considered mega trash tier

[frozen ingot]

yeah ik

[unkempt lake]

For like... ages

[plush stirrup]

some issues are worse compared to others, with all the warranty issues I decided in my case I'd rather have no warranty issues and be subject to a hack 😛

[thick elk]

True, but I am not sure any of them are better there, can very well be luck of the draw.

[frozen ingot]

gigabyte seems to have fallen off in more recent years, their mobos were pretty well regarded in the late 00s

[thick elk]

secure software wise they are not known to be

[frozen ingot]

I guess they're doing the sweaty performance gaming stuff under the auros brand now or whatevs its called

[thick elk]

Ebbs and flows, they have had their better and worse periods. z370 was pretty good for them apart from their dual bios implementation.

[plush stirrup]

tbf ASRock hasn't been hacked yet I think? at least not recently unless it somehow slipped past me, most others have

[frozen ingot]

their budget P35-DS3 could do some serious overclocking

[thick elk]

That may actually be true. I would also say in terms of hardware they are doing pretty great too.
And I don't mind their bios either. (it's very much a here is every thing have fun) but it works.

[plush stirrup]

I loved my Z790 Pro RS from asrock, no issues at all when I had it, apart from Intel's issues ofc but I didn't risk going ASRock for my AM5 build :x

[frozen ingot]

my proudest oc effort was pushing a lower spec core2 cpu from 2.5ghz to 3.84ghz stable with aircooling on DS3

[distant tapir]

IT WOOOORKS HAHAHAHAHAHA

I COULD CRY TEARS OF JOY RIGHT NOW

[unkempt lake]

UPDATE

NOW

[unkempt lake]

RIGHT MEOW

[distant tapir]

I just did! This is me booting into latest bios

[unkempt lake]

Good

You are now saved

From ASSrock

[distant tapir]

Dumb question, can I remove the USB now that I'm inside Windows? Do I have to eject it in some weird way first

[thick elk]

Don't mind my x870 steel legend nor the b650 live mixer before that (review sample on the later). and my previous asrock motherboard was also fine on z77 then again so was my my z370 gigabyte one. So there is that, just prefer asrock's bios of gigabyte's

[plush stirrup]

Just unplug it once it is into windows you're fine

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[frozen ingot]

those gens of intel cpus we're more than happy being OC'd to the moon

[plush stirrup]

once it's past the "bios updating" part you're fine to unplug it

[distant tapir]

We have 100% confirmation now that my CPU did in fact die

[frozen ingot]

am hoping mine hasn't suffered the same fate, though it mostly seem to affect the 9800s

[plush stirrup]

msi's bios is also interesting in comparison to asrock, liked asrock's more

[frozen ingot]

asrock bios has a nice ui yes

[distant tapir]

Wouldn't a dead CPU be better than a dead motherboard?

There'll be less to take out

If a motherboard is dead you basically have to rebuild the PC just to get it out and a new one in again

I thankfully now just had to put in the CPU, apply paste and the cooler then I was good to go

[frozen ingot]

well in my case the cpu was like $100 more than the mobo at the time of purchase

and I will have to remove the cooler either way

swapping out the mobo takes a few mins at most

[warm ore]

Still waiting for the day Galax properly enters that market, need something that goes above the rest.

[lunar elm]

my x870 SL and 9800x3d havent shot each other

[thick elk]

Entering the motherboard market is not easy, not just making a good pcb nice heatsink, software side is also a thing.

[vagrant pagoda]

or sapphire to return

they made the best looking white pcb mobo of all time

[warm ore]

They did make this Z890 Boomstar, but i have no data

[vagrant pagoda]

no idea why they didnt keep the red/blue dram

but they are MEGA rare

[frozen ingot]

not enough plastic shrouds

[vagrant pagoda]

they made them for like 2 months before amd moved ati chipsets under amd

and sappire didnt re-release it in amd branding

[frozen ingot]

we need more stuff glued on to keep my pesky fingers from reaching important connectors or screw holes

[vagrant pagoda]

I have a asus 580x that has ati on the pcb and heatsink, with a amd stick over the heatsink

[warm ore]

Like i said i have no data, but Boomstar is generally their "visual" sub category for china market iirc.
I don't think they are ready to make high end boards as they do with graphics cards, but since we lost EVGA, i'm hoping someone WILL enter.

[vagrant pagoda]

there are loads of china only vendors

it took a massive interest from gn to get yeston in the us

[sharp badger]

This one is nice

[magic minnow]

Google says the quiet part out loud: IP68 protection doesn’t last | The Verge https://share.google/MZrVwlPZUWGbEv4ln

[umbral heron]

From last articles I can say that Google can't advertise their Pixel

[sharp badger]

Phones are never truly waterproof

If you don't get some rugged stuff

[warm ore]

I have a Doogee one, but i don't think i'll try submerging

[sharp badger]

Went swimming accidentally with an 1+8 and it survived with being submerged for a bit (tipped from a canoe)

[empty wren]

Fresh water?

[sharp badger]

Yeah

[tribal dirge]

well ofc they arent permanent conditions, you damage the phone enough to break the seals around the frame ofc it will loose it's water and dust resistance.

[vagrant pagoda]

other than hiding 90% of the white pcb

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/cfxptHiE-7o

[vagrant pagoda]

was gonna say my phone is 100% waterproof

[wheat plume]

mouse: $160
keyboard: $300

[vagrant pagoda]

it was 12 feet down in the lake eariler

i didnt even try to catch

[sharp badger]

Within limits sure

[vagrant pagoda]

its 10m rated

[sharp badger]

Oh what kinda rugged phone do you have?

[vagrant pagoda]

i have 2

[vapid ruin]

makes wooting board looks more reasonably priced

[umbral heron]

Is it USB or knowing Sony proprietary Inzone protocol?

[wheat plume]

its got an 8k dongle, so idk... might be proprietary

[wheat plume]

yeh ikr

[sharp badger]

Oukitel, doogee or what?

[vapid ruin]

aww man, not even in a degree that I like

I really wanna see company copy wooting's 80he rubber feet moar

not that weak ahh plastic feet

[wheat plume]

oo bringing curved edges back xd https://youtu.be/Dh-rIxrGXFU

Still Android 14 ..... nah wtf, wonder what the Software update schedual is

[distant tapir]

I hated curved edges

[wheat plume]

same

[sharp badger]

Ew the curved displays should be kept in the past

Hated them on the S8, such a big weak spot

https://www.doogee.com/products/s200-max This brick should hold though

[vagrant pagoda]

i had a doogee

now i have another ulephone

[umbral heron]

I'M SORRY?!
ORCASLICER RAN OUT OF MEMORY?!!

[ashen spindle]

https://scp-iota.github.io/software/2025/06/16/download-ram-swap-gdrive.html

[umbral heron]

Okay, I can reproduce it, time to create an issue on git

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-rapper-raper-angry-anger-gif-17002797

the snoop doogee dog phone

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

[unkempt lake]

Real talk

Why does snoop dogg never age

Like look at young snoop dogg

Look at snoop dogg now

Dude looks the fucking same

[vagrant pagoda]

black dont crack

[sharp badger]

He be chilling

[unkempt lake]

he's 53

[sharp badger]

Are the Ulefones good?

[empty wren]

His hair is grey not sure what you mean

Though keeping hair tight could tighten skin

Look up stromae hair

[distant tapir]

He looks 53 to me in that gif

[leaden kiln]

my very smart phone has my flight off by 2 hours
thank you samsung wallet

[bright briar]

how do you like samsung wallet?

i been debating between that and google wallet

[leaden kiln]

it's fine I guess
haven't had any problems except this
I don't think there's any major differences

I used google wallet on my pixel and now I use samsung wallet on my samsung

[bright briar]

hmm i see i see

[leaden kiln]

the samsung wallet gesture handle on the bottom of the home screen is a bit annoying if you use gestures but I don't so no problem for me

[fair gull]

720p

the cs2 sweatlords will drool

[distant tapir]

720p is too much of a downgrade. 1080p dual mode should be minimum

[ashen spindle]

nah it makes for a better image since you are doing halving of the pixels

if 1440p is the highest

[distant tapir]

Yeah I meant more that 1440p is a bad native resolution for a dual mode display

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317900592961556534/1408532627941757079/stakuk.gif

[fair gull]

i agree

800x600 is the better native res

[tribal dirge]

until you realize the motion blur that WOLED has

[nimble arch]

3840x2160

[tribal dirge]

there is a reason why Fast TN panels dominate in Esports

[fair gull]

number big = monkey brain happy

[distant tapir]

What do you mean? Persistence blur?

Persistence blur is very small at 720 Hz

[fair gull]

motion blur. the thing you can turn off in games

[tribal dirge]

ghosting or whatever it's called

[distant tapir]

Woled does not suffer from ghosting

[ashen spindle]

yeah perks of being there first and cheap

but TN isnt holding up well

[tribal dirge]

I do wonder though, how many esports players are switching to WOLEDs

[distant tapir]

No reason for them not to use oled unless they are using strobing

[tribal dirge]

I feel like with super fast WOLED panels coming out they could be making the switch

[ashen spindle]

I mean for tournaments they wont make the switch until they get sponsored

ESL isnt going to replace the monitors on their cost

[tribal dirge]

true, OLED displays arent cheap

[ashen spindle]

even at same price no tournament organizer would pay out of their own pocket when they can use that as advertisement spot instead lol

[tribal dirge]

real

[ashen spindle]

https://x.com/howardlutnick/status/1958985124701511761 look the communist USA has bought means of production, classic republican communists smh

Howard Lutnick (@howardlutnick)

BIG NEWS: The United States of America now owns 10% of Intel, one of our great American technology companies.

This historic agreement strengthens U.S. leadership in semiconductors, which will both grow our economy and help secure America’s technological edge.

Thanks to Intel

X · Aug 22, 2025, 8:10 PM

[umbral heron]

something something free market
something something art of the deal

[sudden imp]

Does this mean American citizens all now technically own Intel stock?

[umbral heron]

American citizens soon won't own shit

[fair gull]

nono everyone owns everything

comrade

[young bough]

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-comeon-stickman-bored-gif-22722853

The us government after spending trillions to keep Intel alive

[fickle ore]

Are you for real?

where the /s

[ashen spindle]

had to sell that because I couldnt afford it anymore after have too many intel shorts

[fickle ore]

wut lol

[ashen spindle]

dear god yes its sarcasm because owning production and republicans having the color red

[fickle ore]

I mean most big companies are government backed like TSMC and most companies in EU, so that comment was a bit wierd 😛

[ashen spindle]

there is a difference between being backed, like intel was with the chips act, or the state having a direct stock share

[fickle ore]

Dude look at EU companies

Intel 10% is nothing compared to my country, but we are commies for reals

[ashen spindle]

yeah want to see the worst example? german train system being owned by the state but it working like a private company is why its going to shit

[fickle ore]

At one point Taiwan owned like 48% of TSMC or something like that 😄

[fickle ore]

yea pretty much every company in finland

But if the field needs massive amounts of $$ like fabs idk if its even possible without massive subsidies. Look at Japan and SK and Taiwan

Samsung is SK SK is Samsung kek

[ashen spindle]

got no issues with subsidies, the problem here is they are throwing money around because LBT sucked the orange dick and had a US pin on the suit when a weeke ago he was being talked about as being the reason intel is dying

aka this investment isnt because USG thinks they need it or see a good plan, its purely because trump got sweettalked without any substance

[fickle ore]

yeah u gotta read between lines it was obvious trump wanted to make stonk go down so he and his friends could buy it

He made it possible for US govt AND Softbank to buy it cheap

[ashen spindle]

trump doesnt even understand semiconductors beyond "everything computer" lol

[fickle ore]

Nah I disagree, not because Trump got sweettalked to

Yea but this case can be simplified to: US advanced fabs are national security and thats what he understands

[ashen spindle]

yeah but with something like the chips act intel had to make a plan to outline what the money is used for etc.

literally not enough time between their meeting and this announcement to make a plan that has any merit or ground to stand on

[fickle ore]

Yeah but the chips act sucked anyways it was tied to some success parameters and they became hard to fill. I don't know the specifics but if it was tied to like OHIO being 100% built and running, how would that even help them bc they need the cash now to build it?

[ashen spindle]

then make it better but dont hand out money without any plans

even if the plan is just make something for the US military

[fickle ore]

Well they get 10% of Intel now, so they can choose to sell it later and/or collect the dividend if ever restored

Iirc bailing out automanufacturers in 2008 ultimately became a good investment for US

[ashen spindle]

cant imagine these decisions were made on a weeks notice

[fickle ore]

But I'm waiting to see the specifics of the 10% deal 😄 How much it cost etc

what makes you think it was a week

I'm giving them the benefit of doubt, but I think they've been planning for this atleast 2-3 months in the background

[ashen spindle]

because its been like 2 since trump said LBT shoudl resign

[fickle ore]

lol could be that as well

[ashen spindle]

there is nothing that warrants giving this administraion benefit of the doubt for having plans like these on longer notice

if anything all the back and forth with nvidia and china points to the opposite that its all very sporadic

[fickle ore]

its true it would seem like that

@ashen spindle From Press Conference Today: "I say well I'd like you to do that because uh Intel has been left behind, as you know compared to uh Jensen, and some of our friends Nvidia some of the people because Intel should have never been...Intel was the biggest most powerful chip company in the world and then uh they started leaving and they started going to foreign countries in particular Taiwan and if we had president would have said, "Okay, you can go to Taiwan, but we're going to put a 100% tariff or 200 or 300 or 500% tariff."

xDDD

[ashen spindle]

I’m getting brain damage even trying to comprehend what he’s saying

[fickle ore]

Watch here https://youtu.be/KQtQQHBVQBI?t=2413 it starts at around 40:40

[ashen spindle]

No thanks I prefer to enjoy my weekend

[ashen spindle]

link to that?

[fickle ore]

https://newsroom.intel.com/corporate/intel-and-trump-administration-reach-historic-agreement

[ashen spindle]

ty

so most of it isnt even more money its just making it sound like trump made a deal when that already came from biden lmfao

just done as stock purchase now

[fickle ore]

Yes they use the previous funds (5.7B + 3.2B = 8.9B) not yet given to Intel to buy 433.3 million NEW stock (dilution) at private $20.47 per share price

[ashen spindle]

"historic agreement" my ass

[fickle ore]

Hehe

Overall good + the lines from other CEO is cautionary optimism?

Makes me think if yields r ok they will come

[ashen spindle]

dell and HP just buy chips they dont use foundry, microsoft tries and fails so its whatever

AWS eh maybe

[unkempt lake]

https://www.technetbooks.com/2025/08/aoostar-ryzen-9-9955hx3d-motd.html

who the fuck is awoooooostar

[ashen spindle]

one of the dozens of china ODM

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-hawow-awa-good-morning-morning-cat-cat-gif-1216186429259094074

AOOOOOOOO...star

[frozen ingot]

more like egostroking agreement

[cosmic thunder]

awoo..

[dusky nova]

gyates my beloved

[lofty pivot]

The scary thing here is more that this isn’t a bailout

Intel sucks and business is down but their core company is still strong

So this is one of first times I know where US is doing this as more of an investment for influence and control into a business rather than aiming to just get paid back in the future like a bailout

Raises a ton of questions where what does this mean for how the company operates with government contacts/influence, competitiveness going forward etc etc

[astral haven]

i was super shocked when i learned that the 08 bailouts were profitable for the gov
With the way people whine about it youd think it was free cash just for rich people or something

[lofty pivot]

well the bailouts is a whole different issue of not about returns but it setting a precedent of "if I mess up with this absurd manipulative and illegal money making strategy but I'm a big enough bank then government will bail me out"

makes that sort of behaviour continue because they know they have a bigger safety net if their strategy backfires

[astral haven]

except the people doing the illegal didnt get bailed out

also fdic insurance exists, but its not for the banks...

i knew that the bailout was cheaper than paying out fdic, but i didnt realize that it paid for itself...

[lofty pivot]

Yeah exactly. It’s screwed up the free market because they didn’t let the absurd bubble fully burst and for all the banks to take the bigger hit they should have taken

Now they can repeat the same bs again and know there’s a decent chance they can get government intervention if it goes belly up again

[astral haven]

so what should we not have fdic insurance?

[lofty pivot]

you're talking about very different scenarios and things

one safety net being bad for one party isn't evidence for or lack of evidence for another safety net situation. It's not like there's no grey areas or nuance to these applications and we don't need to pretend different things can't be okay situationally

[astral haven]

as soon as you have insurance, saving a company with a loan that it pays back is worth it vs letting it fail and selling the parts
which is exactly what happened in 08

[lofty pivot]

again, you're talking about very different implications and things vs. bailing out big banks who gave awful loans

[astral haven]

reread it

[ashen spindle]

Well it said they are not having any input on the board and just vote for whatever the board wants when needed so it’s not the usual stakeholder

Which idk if that happened before

[lofty pivot]

i don't know if i trust the idea of no input or no influence

[ashen spindle]

Yeah no clue if that’s just a saying or if they put that in writing

[lofty pivot]

no one is arguing that point of whether it's worth or not from a financial perspective

it did make a return and be fine financially. That's not what any of us are discussing though

[astral haven]

do you think the banks would have been bailed out if the government didnt have to reimburse all the people holding money there?

[lofty pivot]

it caused a much bigger problem because they tried to stop a certain amount of suffering

[astral haven]

please respond to what i type

[lofty pivot]

what does what you said have anything to do with the discussion

no one is arguing or talking about whether it was financially a positive move money wise

we can end that discussion already: it was a financially positive move at the time if all you look at is money

[astral haven]

yes so what caused them being stuck in that financial position was fdic insurance

[lofty pivot]

we were discussing whether there are other longer and far bigger reaching consequences of propping up and saving that system

not whether it was good/bad move for the us financially on their return sheet

[astral haven]

which is why i brought up the cause of them being entangled in the system
no insurance, no entanglement....

[lofty pivot]

i think that's a very big simplification with a lot of assumptions made that overly simplify the situation into one thing that was a factor but not the only factor by far

[astral haven]

a simplification is better than an outright error

[lofty pivot]

and that's still beside the discussion of whether it would have been better to take the suffering and pain then vs. propping up the system

well we'll have to agree to disagree because i think over simplifying it is an error

[astral haven]

the model represents reality

[astral haven]

this doesnt

[rough patrol]

Lets just go back to bartering

This money shit clearly didnt work

[astral haven]

im good

[lofty pivot]

i accept your trade of my goodwill for 2 sony lenses

[halcyon moss]

Sounds a lot like a rimworld kinda deal

[dusky nova]

lets go back to precious metal currencies this fiat currency shit clearly doesnt work

[reef patrol]

Disregard FIAT, Acquire VOLVO

[dusky nova]

selling my 80he for 80 denarii or 1 goat and overpay in denarii

[magic minnow]

The battery on the Fold 7 is good even though people complain about it on reddit

[frozen ingot]

isn't that what reddit is for though

[magic minnow]

the heart of the Internet

[frozen ingot]

if that's reddit then what does that make 4chan

[sharp badger]

https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-x200-ultra-external-lens-hands-on-3551102/ Didn't know Vivo had this

[pale sigil]

Y'all think it's a waste if I guy a 5700x3d rn for £135 even though I might upgrade in a year

[wheat plume]

🤔 why do wireplumber and pipewire have their own partitions??

[halcyon moss]

I doubt they do

What does mount say

[old marlin]

if you wanna upgrade anyways i'd say it would be a waste yea

[vagrant pagoda]

sony did it better

[warm ore]

If it benefits you and you will have proper income by time for the next planned upgrade, i think thats fine.

[sharp badger]

What was their lens?

https://www.wired.com/2014/09/sony-ilce-qx1/ This from 2014?

[pale sigil]

Kinda cool seeing IKEA use raspberry pis

Weird seeing anime tho

Idk why

[wheat plume]

anime at ikea?!?!

[frozen ingot]

how do you do fellow kids

[sharp badger]

Drinking a lillet spritz & eating ribs while watching Beelinks being madehttps://youtu.be/ohwI3V207Ts

[wheat plume]

O I love tiny PCs 🥺

[umbral heron]

It's Bazzite or other immutable OS? If so, it has to be mounted from /var or other subdirectory

[wheat plume]

Yeah is bazzite

hmm, I will check my Bluefin install later see if its done the same way there

[steady sail]

this is kinda interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kul1zlF3UE

[old marlin]

is that deepcool

[steady sail]

yeah

[umbral heron]

How is it that despite Secure Boot being a Microsoft's work, the only problem with it has Microsoft's OS?

[steady sail]

welcome to microsoft ?

[frozen ingot]

because microsoft seemingly forgot how to code over the years

[nimble arch]

People are having secure boot troubles?

[frozen ingot]

some of the very worst applications you can defile your system with are made by microsoft, somehow they can't make an app that works properly on their own OS

[umbral heron]

Windows problems
I fix EFI startup from Win11 iso, then Windows Update does something and I can't boot again to Windows

[frozen ingot]

hey at least your system still boots

crylaughs in dead as a rock

[umbral heron]

Iunno
Linux just said "ah, okay, here's sbctl, cool"
Windows is still "veRIfyIng SHIM sBaT dATA fAiLEd: sEcUriTy PoLIcY VIoLatIon" or "CoUlDn't fiND WInLoAD.efi"

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZlYnOTeALk just watch this

[frozen ingot]

upgrade to windows 11, its free

[umbral heron]

I am using Win 11

[frozen ingot]

I know that's the joke

[umbral heron]

Let's hope rebuilding bcdboot helps

And it did

[nimble arch]

[umbral heron]

and HDR now works

[nimble arch]

You love to see it

[steady sail]

who needs HDR on windoge

[nimble arch]

Any OLED enjoyer

[umbral heron]

But it's IPS
And look the same shite on Linux and Windows in HDR

[nimble arch]

Skill issue

[steady sail]

even if i had an OLED i would skip using HDR

[nimble arch]

Upgrade to OLED

[umbral heron]

Am gonna get for the next bonus

[nimble arch]

[umbral heron]

For this one I wanna get lens for my camera

[nimble arch]

I’m eyeing one of the new Tandem OLEDs

[umbral heron]

Ah yeah, forgot about that

[steady sail]

tho idk if i should get a QD-Oled or W-Oled

[nimble arch]

WOLED

The W stands for winning

[umbral heron]

Which one has LS27DG600SUXEN

[wheat plume]

Time to try 1000Hz :D

(it was on 250hz)

[steady sail]

soo Odyssey G6 Oled

[umbral heron]

Yis
27" 1440p, 360Hz, matte screen, exactly what I want

[steady sail]

XG27ACDNG either this 27", 1440p, 360HZ and matte screen or XG27AQDMG 27", 1440p, 240Hz and Glossy Screen

[warm ore]

I know it's pointless, but i will attempt it.
QD-Oled.

[nimble arch]

I need a glossy WOLED

[steady sail]

right now both cost the same at 733.73 euro

[ashen spindle]

Glossy can be really annoying if the sun is shining at the wrong angle

[umbral heron]

[balmy vector]

Semi glossy

[steady sail]

uhm which one is that

[balmy vector]

xg27aqdmg

not ultimate glossy, but tasty

[distant tapir]

I bought QD oled. It's up to personal taste which you go for. QD is better to me

[ashen spindle]

underlying tech doesnt matter as much as coating, screen size, resolution etc.

[balmy vector]

yeah both have their upsides/downsides

[distant tapir]

I prioritised 27 inch 4k

not matte

[steady sail]

yeah i dont need a 4k display

i dont think that i can enjoy a 4k display on a RX 9070 xd

[distant tapir]

I have a 5070

But I will upgrade the gpu in a few months

[steady sail]

yeah i dont

• i mostly play FPS games

time to time some good Single Player games

[distant tapir]

Mfw 20 year old games at 4k 240 fps ultra settings

[nimble arch]

1440p240 and 4K120 are both good choices for a 4090

The tandem OLED I’m looking at is 27” 1440p 280Hz

The ASUS whatever

Fucking model numbers are dumb

[steady sail]

i mean if i went with a 3090 i might be able to play in 4k

[distant tapir]

I had a 3090 and was not very happy with its 4k performance

[balmy vector]

true peak gaming

[balmy vector]

xg27aqwmg?

[distant tapir]

Truly. Old games feel so amazing at high resolutions and framerates

[balmy vector]

i know theyre doing a xg27aqdmg v2 (minimal effort refresh)

[nimble arch]

XG27AQWMG

Who the fuck makes this up?

This isn’t real

[warm ore]

500Hz time

[rough osprey]

how many years till bfi at full refresh rate

[balmy vector]

at 5% brightness

[distant tapir]

Go back a few years and get LG C9/CX/C1

[steady sail]

i dont play CS and VAL xd soo another pointless move xd

[warm ore]

Not really, motion clarity benefits all FPS games

[rough osprey]

im using my oled at 30% so there should be enough brightness overhead

[warm ore]

(in fact all games, but those especially)

[steady sail]

when most game i just lock my fps to 150 ?

even tho my display is 180hz

[balmy vector]

i max my brightness on mine, 270 nits i think

[rough osprey]

it gotta be a different issue like no boards to do it at high refreshrates and resolutions

[distant tapir]

Brightness decreases proportionally to how much you lower the image persistence. 50% persistence decrease is 50% decrease in brightness

[rough osprey]

yes that shouldnt be the problem

[distant tapir]

Doing 60 Hz BFI on a 480 Hz monitor would make you lose 87% of the brightness or something (don't remember exact number)

[rough osprey]

like the 540hz oled should be able to do bfi at 540hz with atleast 150nits

[nimble arch]

I have my LG C2 calibrated to 200 nits for SDR modes. HDR games are set to 200 nits white point and then 800 nits max brightness.

HGiG enabled, of course

[distant tapir]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317900592961556534/1408532627941757079/stakuk.gif

LG C2 is what I had before

[nimble arch]

I don’t think any of the current OLEDs are an upgrade

As someone that’s not big into FPS games

Neither need nor want 480 Hz

Although I do think that 32” 4K 240Hz is probably my ideal sweet spot. Rather than 27” 1440p.

[rough osprey]

ye the improvements per generation have slowed down

[nimble arch]

I’d like a WOLED 21:9 but they’re only doing that 800R nonsense.

[rough osprey]

I wish for a 5k 1440p dualmode

the ultimate gaming (and more) monitor

[steady sail]

im the only one who dont get the dual mode monitor hype ?

[rough osprey]

Havent been a fan of the current models, but in theory it could be great

[distant tapir]

Mine is a pretty big upgrade so I'm excited. I wasn't happy with the C2

[nimble arch]

There are certainly quirks to using a TV as a monitor but the HDR performance is too good.

Hopefully these new Tandem OLEDs really close that gap.

[rough osprey]

If you can live with the size, yes

[nimble arch]

42” mostly works for me. There are times when I’d like something actually monitor sized.

[distant tapir]

I remember the coping days of buying a 42 inch C2 since it was the closest thing we had to an oled monitor

It was go LCD or get a C2

Glad that time is over

[nimble arch]

Yeah

I might just see out my five year warranty though

And then upgrade OLED when I’ve probably also upgraded from my 4090

[distant tapir]

Can ride the 4090 satisfied for a while

I'm buying a 5090 to utilise my screen well

[nimble arch]

Maybe I’ll get a 6090

Although I might go AMD if they’ve actually got a high-end by then

[steady sail]

cheapest 4090 for me is still 1700 euro

[distant tapir]

The prices I see people sell their 4090s for are crazy

Some are almost as much as a 5090. Crazy

[steady sail]

im happy with my 700 euro 9070 LMAO

[umbral heron]

AMD, gib high-end radeon

[sudden imp]

Maybe next gen

[steady sail]

happy with my PC specs

do i need more, not really xd, this is even too much for me

[umbral heron]

[nimble arch]

I did almost sell my 4090 when they were going for like £1800 earlier this year

I was gonna get a 9070 XT and 1440p OLED while also having half the money left

But ehh, too lazy to sell a GPU

[steady sail]

nice, but i only play games nothing else on my PC soo for me its pointless to go with HIGH end stuff

[umbral heron]

I don't wanna work anymore from home

Plus they woke me up at 6:30 to go to office today

I came back 8:30 and I have pool at 9
Slept through whole afternoon

[steady sail]

tbh if i could get a job thats only in a single shift instead of 3 i would love to

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-hug-anime-cute-girl-gif-17364489

[balmy vector]

[umbral heron]

We rawdog this beast

[steady sail]

tbh im still sad that i didnt sniped that 4080 for 780 euro

[umbral heron]

9070XT is not that different from 4080

[steady sail]

i have the non-xt

[frozen ingot]

leaning towards a new mobo again, use the warranty replacement for a different machine

but I'm kinda tired as all hell researching pc parts at this point

[umbral heron]

5% difference

[steady sail]

that was waay before i bought the 9070 tho

[frozen ingot]

was hoping this damn thing would keep me from having to for at least another 5 years

[steady sail]

before i bought the RX 9070, i could have gotten a 4080 for 780 euro close to the price that i bought for my RX 9070

[gusty kiln]

What died

[frozen ingot]

most things point towards motherboard

[gusty kiln]

Am4?

[frozen ingot]

5

[steady sail]

AM4 my beloved

[magic minnow]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B850M-MORTAR-WIFI

[gusty kiln]

Damn rip, which one?

[distant tapir]

Thought it said bosom at first

[distant tapir]

I think I have decided on what motherboard I want btw

[frozen ingot]

300 bucks shhhj

[magic minnow]

It was on sale recently

[magic minnow]

which

[frozen ingot]

asrock b650m-hdv/m.2

[distant tapir]

MPG X670E Carbon
Primarily buying because of looks and M.3 slots

[gusty kiln]

Damn, asrock is a bit yikes on am5

[magic minnow]

big mobo!

[frozen ingot]

and am not even using a sweaty 9xxx series cpu either

[distant tapir]

Yes. It fits in the case I want

[magic minnow]

I have smallish case sadly

[distant tapir]

The smaller ones don't look good enough to me

[gusty kiln]

Get a MSI mobo

[magic minnow]

Intel has the cooler motherboards honestly

[frozen ingot]

weirdest pc death I've seen in 30+ years

[distant tapir]

NZXT has some cool ones but I know nothing about the company. Only hear bad things about them

[frozen ingot]

just dies mid-use, completely lifeless no matter what I try

[magic minnow]

For Intel

4 x M.2

[distant tapir]

What happened when it died. Screen just turned black?

[frozen ingot]

system abruptly shut off, everything black

[distant tapir]

That looks so fancy. I'm guessing it is $800

[gusty kiln]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-meg-x870e-godlike-extended-atx-motherboard-amd-x870e-am5/p/N82E16813144678?item=N82E16813144678&Source=socialshare&utm_campaign=snc-copy-link-_-sr-_-13-144-678-_-08232025&utm_campaign=snc-copy-link-_-sr-_-product-_-08232025&utm_medium=social&utm_source=copy-link

[frozen ingot]

I've even tried to bios flash via usb stick, it doesn't even need to start for that but not even the diagnostics leds light up

its a brick

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-strong-buff-ripped-gif-24036188

[magic minnow]

329$

[distant tapir]

Looks cool but how does it justify the cost beyond that

[magic minnow]

It's usually 449.99$ though

[steady sail]

tbh i would get this build if i would upgrade to AM5 but this cost me 780 euro

[magic minnow]

Idk why they make the badass motherboards for fucking Intel

[sudden imp]

We need more ITX options it really is a cool form factor 🙁

[frozen ingot]

every decent msi option in my price range is out of stock here lmao fml

[umbral heron]

I have this SSD
Also B850 shouldn't be much more expensive now

[frozen ingot]

figure if I get a new board I may as well go for 850 over 650

assus no good then

there's plenty of options there

[gusty kiln]

Msi seems to be the front runner atm

Even though all brands kinda sus

[frozen ingot]

funny how things change

[steady sail]

i dont really need the benifits from a B850 board soo

[gusty kiln]

Shame cuz the asrock livemixer is a really good value board

[frozen ingot]

msi quality used to be a meme back in the day

[steady sail]

and this is the closest mobo that u could get next to the b650 MSI board

[magic minnow]

It's more for overclocking right?

[frozen ingot]

850 can support newer/faster cpus vs 650 no?

[umbral heron]

Still works great

[steady sail]

i dont know really

[frozen ingot]

my asrock also worked really well, until it didn't

like one of the most stable headache free systems I've used, for about 9 months

[umbral heron]

Nah, 850 is just 650 refresh
The only difference is that B650 may have PCIe5, B850 does have for sure
Other than that CPU support is the same

[frozen ingot]

I was unironically very pleased with it, shit bums me out

[umbral heron]

Oh, B650E is exact same as B850

[distant tapir]

Seems like no one here trusts Assrock motherboards

I certainly don't anymore

[umbral heron]

I do

[frozen ingot]

its probably fine now after the bios fixes

just sucks being on the burned list

[rough osprey]

they were a great option for 7000

[ashen spindle]

works fine on mine, sure they had more issues with what seems like older bios + XMP but so will any vendor at some point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rough osprey]

ill probably keep mine too

[frozen ingot]

just make sure to update that bios

[ashen spindle]

really depends do you more care about them not having armory crate bs or such or do you not want to deal with higher issues on am5 atm, both are valid choices

[umbral heron]

B850 Livemixer is ugly AF
I want my orange splashes :<

[steady sail]

its a fine looking board

[frozen ingot]

am still considering just going with my asrock warranty replacement board

[umbral heron]

That's peak

[rough osprey]

no

[frozen ingot]

but I don't know how long it'll take

[gusty kiln]

Orange soda mobo

[ashen spindle]

as with all things hardware, search for matching spec (usb ports etc.) first, then remove what you dont want for looks/current brand options etc. and decide that based on current issues not older generations

[unkempt lake]

hiya

[frozen ingot]

would actually prefer not having to reinstall my OS for various drivers associated with a new mobo

[umbral heron]

Morning my favourite francocanadian

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/splatoon-explode-gif-26475824

Splatoon build

[magic minnow]

Ranked Splatoon would turn me into a fucking monster

[unkempt lake]

:o IM YOUR FAVORITE???

[umbral heron]

[unkempt lake]

mou says hi

[unkempt lake]

@umbral heron should join the moumou emotes server

[umbral heron]

Invite expired

[unkempt lake]

the mou cult must expand

[unkempt lake]

dw i got u

[umbral heron]

[unkempt lake]

YES

MOU EMOTES GO BRR

[steady sail]

yeah i cant find any B850 board that has more USB slots than that B650 board

[exotic plinth]

Why it is called livemixer?

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-splatoon-marina-dj-smile-gif-17770042

[gusty kiln]

What about the gigabyte b850 ai?

[unkempt lake]

Cuz splatoon

[steady sail]

i dont need that board xd

[gusty kiln]

2 lan ports too

[steady sail]

i dont wanna spend 450 euro on a board

[unkempt lake]

@steady sail buy an x670e on clearance

[gusty kiln]

It's 320 usd here

[unkempt lake]

Or a b650 on clearance

[gusty kiln]

Damn 450 is rough

[exotic plinth]

Why two ports though

[gusty kiln]

?

[unkempt lake]

There's so many older mobos on clearance

[steady sail]

right now the cheapest is the MSI MAG X670E for 270 euro instead of 350 xd

[unkempt lake]

Well buy that then

[steady sail]

but i dont wanna upgrade xd

[unkempt lake]

ok then don't

Why are you even asking about upgrades

If you're happy with your system

[steady sail]

its hard to buy stuff without money

[unkempt lake]

Technically if you wanted to upgrade you could have done it months ago when your mobo shat itself

[unkempt lake]

Ok but you're happy with what you have

[steady sail]

that was last month

[unkempt lake]

So therefore... no upgrade required no money required

?

You are confusing the fuck out if me

[steady sail]

my mobo died last month

oh no it died 3 month ago xd

[frozen ingot]

everyones mobos dying these days

[steady sail]

but again it was a 60 euro board that died bc of shit electricity cables xd

[frozen ingot]

can't trust the tech matriarch anymore

[steady sail]

it survived 5 years

[unkempt lake]

My first x670e board was dead on arrival

[frozen ingot]

yeah used to run old systems for years and years

[unkempt lake]

May have just been bad luck idk

[frozen ingot]

was still running a 4790K not all that long ago

[steady sail]

thats actually true that i could have moved to AM5 at that time

[frozen ingot]

we need the manosphere techbros to bring us the fatherboard

[unkempt lake]

My dad was running my old 3770k till uh... 2021? Then the mobo died

[steady sail]

but i just get a board for 150 euro xd instead of spending 800 euro on a new system base

[gusty kiln]

But mama su

https://tenor.com/view/pambi-pump-it-up-to-the-moon-solana-gif-31292145730741291

[steady sail]

but tbh i would get that Curcial P3 Plus nvme i want more storage

[frozen ingot]

the culprit behind the AM5 grief

[gusty kiln]

[frozen ingot]

maybe I should be looking at Inte..ehhh nevermind

[gusty kiln]

If you need a lot of threads maybe

They are bargain atm with combos

[frozen ingot]

or if my home heating wasn't included in the rent

[unkempt lake]

Ok then

What's done is done

Be satisfied about it

And stop thinking

[steady sail]

but i love thinking about stuff

[frozen ingot]

I hate thinking about pc parts

[unkempt lake]

There comes a point where its just overconsumption

[steady sail]

i just love to dream about getting them

[frozen ingot]

there's too many variables to consider now

[unkempt lake]

Just be happy it plays games

[steady sail]

im waiting for the new RE game

[unkempt lake]

Like there's no point in having the best hardware in the world

[frozen ingot]

am kinda pissed I'm practically forced into having to do it again so soon after

[unkempt lake]

If its not to do something fun with it

[unkempt lake]

Cant you just warrsnty it

Its like a year old

[frozen ingot]

yeah am gonna do that

but not sure how long it'll take

[unkempt lake]

You could also just buy the cheapest b650 mobo around

[frozen ingot]

and got a few systems that could be due for upgrade as well

[unkempt lake]

And get it within a day

Then warranty the old board

And sell it or give it

Or use it for something else

[frozen ingot]

it'll trickle down to a different system if so, that's why am even considering a new board at all

but fuuuuck man this shit is so migraine inducing to plan

especially when am not at the comfort of my own computer to do it

[gusty kiln]

Are you doing cpu+mobo+ram?

[gusty kiln]

Need a backup mini pc or laptop

[frozen ingot]

am praying the cpu and ram is still alive on my dead rig

[unkempt lake]

The cpu is my worry

[gusty kiln]

Ah

[unkempt lake]

The ram nah

[frozen ingot]

if those are fried too then aaaaaa

[gusty kiln]

[vagrant pagoda]

no mou server tag? for shame

[frozen ingot]

but yeah if cpu ded I may as well get a faster one when am at it

[gusty kiln]

I do wonder sometimes if my 12vhpwr cable in my 4070ti super has melted

[unkempt lake]

Do you know how expensive that shit is?

[vagrant pagoda]

check it ?

[vagrant pagoda]

fam i own my tag

[frozen ingot]

pc's being like a damn jigsaw puzzle

[gusty kiln]

Nah scared if I reinsert it'll make it worse

[frozen ingot]

will it bankrupt you or burn your house down, play the game to find out

[unkempt lake]

I only have nitro because i got sick of being told pics from my phone were too big for discord

[gusty kiln]

9950x3d lesgoooo

[vagrant pagoda]

i know excatly what it cost LMAO

[unkempt lake]

Rich boy

[frozen ingot]

X3Ds so damn pricy

even the 7800 one is still like 400+ here

[gusty kiln]

How much are 7900 non x?

[frozen ingot]

tbh I'd be more in the market for a cpu that handles heavy desktop loads well than sacrificing that for more game performance

[unkempt lake]

7600x3d

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

[unkempt lake]

what

[frozen ingot]

I don't game that much these days

[gusty kiln]

Yeah non x 7900 would be pretty decent

[vagrant pagoda]

7600x3d is still like over 300 bucks

[unkempt lake]

I mean... no?

[frozen ingot]

I was doing fine in every game I played with the 7600x, but at times I woulda liked a bit more oomph doing desktop stuff

[unkempt lake]

You can find it for 250usd (350cad) in canada on sale @vagrant pagoda

Or in bundles

[vagrant pagoda]

not right now

[unkempt lake]

Yes right now

[vagrant pagoda]

link it then

[unkempt lake]

Literally last week at canada computers

[vagrant pagoda]

last week =/= right now

[unkempt lake]

I literally have one arriving monday

Oh wait

[vagrant pagoda]

im saying i just looked and they are over 300 bucks

[unkempt lake]

Its back on sale

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/amd-desktop-processors/272879/amd-ryzen-5-7600x3d-6-core-102-mb-cache-3d-v-cache-technology-100-100001721wof.html?keyword=7600x3d

[vagrant pagoda]

thats 360

[unkempt lake]

CANADIAN

259usd

[vagrant pagoda]

damn i forget teh cad is so weak XD

[gusty kiln]

Canadian pesos

[frozen ingot]

7600X3D isn't available domestically here afaik

[gusty kiln]

Where are you from again?

[frozen ingot]

maybe germany has some but I'd prefer not to

[umbral heron]

they from sverige

[frozen ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/swedish-cat-gif-5249407033065223638

[gusty kiln]

Lol I was literally just at ikea

[gusty kiln]

What about mindfactory? They constantly promote amd cpus

[frozen ingot]

its probably fine I just tend to avoid shopping abroad unless I have to

[digital cliff]

mindfactory hasn't shipped outside germany in 5 years

[unkempt lake]

Takko 2.0

[gusty kiln]

Oh rip

[frozen ingot]

wat

[unkempt lake]

dw about it

[frozen ingot]

idk you never really know what the store rep is like, or what dealing with their support is like in the case of returns

also having to ship it back abroad weeuughh

[unkempt lake]

It's just a few months ago takko wanted a good deal on shit we kept linking him deals and he was like NOOO ITS NOT IN HUNGARY I DONT WANT TO HAVE THINGS SHIP FROM ELSEWHERE IN EUROPE

[unkempt lake]

there's a lot of trusted stores in europe

[gusty kiln]

Idk might be a NA vs EU thing

[frozen ingot]

yes but if there's a problem am looking at days, possibly weeks of dealing with cs and slow costly shipping

[gusty kiln]

We NA with our consooooooom culture

[unkempt lake]

?

[frozen ingot]

when I can drive to a store here the same day and have it swapped out

[unkempt lake]

My closest canada computers is 4 hours away... if i have an issue with a part i get i'll just ship it back

Driving 4 hours for pc parts is lame

[frozen ingot]

I have like 5 computer stores within 10-30 min drive

[unkempt lake]

I mean i have a best buy but they don't really have a great selection

[frozen ingot]

no I mean stores mostly focused on pc components

[unkempt lake]

Yeah no not here

[frozen ingot]

they have branched out to more stuff in later years but its still their core business

[unkempt lake]

I mean i used to work at one of the 2 local pc repair shops but yeah the gaming pcs we built were on order we didn't keep any parts locally and our prices weren't the best lol

It was worth it when i had my employee discount back when i was a student lol

[frozen ingot]

https://www.inet.se

these the guys I typically go with

been at it since the 90s, dad got our first pc there in 95 I think

[unkempt lake]

But yeah i generally just order online

[glass stag]

I usually used Proshop or Komplett when I lived in Denmark

[unkempt lake]

Newegg canada
Memory express
Canada computers
Amazon
Best buy

[steady sail]

i love my country man

[frozen ingot]

you can do that here too but more often then not the prices aren't much lower

[sharp badger]

Just depends on deals atm.

[unkempt lake]

Also i tend to just buy parts from a bunch of different retailers

Like i bought an ssd from Staples

[sharp badger]

Same

[unkempt lake]

Sometimes you just happen to find deals at an odd place

[frozen ingot]

used to shop quite a bit from them way back but apparently the komplett franchises customer support has taken a nosedive in recent years

[unkempt lake]

Staples doesn't sell much pc parts but sometimes they have a deal

[sharp badger]

It's easy to get from one vendor with warranty though

[glass stag]

Pharmacy airpods

[gusty kiln]

I'll only but pc parts in person, people be robbing packages in the US

[unkempt lake]

Eztended warranties are a scam tho

[sharp badger]

Proshop have been fine with stuff

I don't get such things just normal EU warranty

[unkempt lake]

Yes lol

[gusty kiln]

Like actual airpods?

[unkempt lake]

Cheapest place to buy airpods is at fucking Shopper's drug mart

[frozen ingot]

I might pay 5-10€ more for something at inet buuut I can pick it up the same day and they've never given me headaches with returns or support ever

[unkempt lake]

yes

Real

[nimble arch]

AirPods are very cool

[unkempt lake]

It's a pharmacy chain that has a small electronics section

Sometimes they have the most random fucking good deals

Like airpods xD

[gusty kiln]

Dang how much?

[unkempt lake]

No one buys electronics at a pharmacy i have no idea why they even stock the place

[frozen ingot]

idk if you find smaller domestic businesses that do their job well I think its worth supporting but that just me

[unkempt lake]

Shit always ends up on clearance

[unkempt lake]

Got them for like 100$ off lol

[frozen ingot]

some people hunt for every nickel of saving and that's fair enough

[unkempt lake]

• you can use the pharmacy points on em lol

For cashback

[unkempt lake]

I need a ps5 with my tynenol guys

The screaming cod kiddos giving me headaches

[sharp badger]

For sure but if it's way to big of a price difference feels just not worth it

[nimble arch]

I need a medical PS5 Pro to cure my ligma

[unkempt lake]

Ps5 + cod + tynenol bundle

[frozen ingot]

yeah no if the difference is greater than 15-20€ I'll probably go with that

[unkempt lake]

Also i bought quite a few 3ds games from the pharmacy on clearance

That was a good deal

😎

Cheaper than eb games or best buy

[glass stag]

Most random deal i got was a 10$ 10.000mah powerbank from a regular grocery trip

[unkempt lake]

Phamacy points > eb games edge card

[frozen ingot]

and here people raise their eyebrows at pharmacies selling things like healthier sweets and dietary supplements

[magic minnow]

I have a cool powerbank

[unkempt lake]

The overpriced anker you never use?

[magic minnow]

https://www.anker.com/products/a1340-250w-power-bank?variant=43739694465174

[magic minnow]

[frozen ingot]

my current powerbank is kinda meh it lost capacity rather quickly

[unkempt lake]

https://www.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-retractable-cable-power-bank-20000mah

[frozen ingot]

I should get another xiaomi one that thing was a chonker

[unkempt lake]

Just get this instead

@magic minnow

[magic minnow]

[vagrant pagoda]

build in cord is just gonna break

[frozen ingot]

fr though why we need a color display on a heckin portable battery

[unkempt lake]

They make a version without

[glass stag]

For personality flavor

[vagrant pagoda]

to play doom

[unkempt lake]

Personally i like having the built in cord

There's still 2 extra ports

[frozen ingot]

my personal flavor of powerbank is shut up and charge my phone

[unkempt lake]

@magic minnow https://www.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-nexode-power-bank-25000mah-200w-with-smart-digital-display

They have a 25000mah 200w one

[steady sail]

tbh why i dont order from other countries

[frozen ingot]

why is it so blocky

flatten that thing out

[unkempt lake]

Ugreen stuff always gets mega discounted on amazon too

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a power bank with 120v is fi was gonna be that big

[glass stag]

This is clearly the best powerbank

[vagrant pagoda]

its like 100wh if its 25mha at 4.2

[unkempt lake]

I really like this little magsafe powerbank i have

[vagrant pagoda]

did it come with the paw print?

[unkempt lake]

Its super slim and it does 45w in out w usb c

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[vagrant pagoda]

i was gonna say thats some wild branding

[unkempt lake]

Also came with the little lanyard with the smol usb c to c cable

https://a.co/d/hgwHSoY

[vagrant pagoda]

the kick stand is adorable

[unkempt lake]

but yeah i love this little thing

Anything apple just slap on magsafe

Anything non apple i have a tiny usb c handy

[vagrant pagoda]

my phone already has a battery bigger than that

XD