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marsh glade
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Please insert disc 2 to advance to the next zone

frozen ingot
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so yeah, new PC's are neato like that

marsh glade
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It was nice to just not install the cinematics from disc 4 though

tribal dirge
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iirc it's because helium filled drives are a massive PITA to repair and recover data from when they do fail

frozen ingot
tribal dirge
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iirc you need a helium filled chamber to properly service those drives

frozen ingot
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and some were huge too

gusty kiln
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And now those drives are discontinued

tribal dirge
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yeah

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sadge

frozen ingot
fickle ore
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why not get some 31TB ssd?

frozen ingot
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member quantum bigfoot

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that enormous thing is like 2gb havo

gusty kiln
fickle ore
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😄

frozen ingot
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I really wanted one as a kid

tribal dirge
fickle ore
frozen ingot
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2gb sounded like so much when your PC had a 600mb drive

gusty kiln
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Wish there was an in-between storage medium, comprise speed for noise and capacity

tribal dirge
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and then Nokia later took over Bell Labs

frozen ingot
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poor nokia

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their worst mistake was not taking the iphone seriously

tribal dirge
frozen ingot
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yep similar thing went down with ericsson and saab here

fickle ore
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Nokia is doing pretty well in mobile/fiber optics rn

frozen ingot
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now they only make military stuff p much

fickle ore
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could be big considering data centers need fast connections

tribal dirge
fickle ore
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yea

frozen ingot
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iirc nokia works in similar fields now

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or well they did back then too

fickle ore
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One day Nokia will rise like a phoenix again

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Legendary story of a shoemaker to top cell phones

frozen ingot
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saab has queues out the door for their stuff so that's nice

tribal dirge
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and wireless communications

fickle ore
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yea 😄

tribal dirge
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and Quantum computing!

fickle ore
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My parents had a fancy saab dude

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automatic seat belt attacher

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in the 90s

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That must've teached them something so now they can make gripens

vapid ruin
magic minnow
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Okay it here

steady sail
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Yes dali

distant tapir
magic minnow
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I'm just gonna keep my old cooler

magic minnow
bright briar
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what about the 240 aio pump?

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having issues installing it?

distant tapir
magic minnow
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The hoses press hard into the gpu

bright briar
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on am4

tribal dirge
magic minnow
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New one sits a smidge higher

tribal dirge
sudden imp
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Try montechs

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Mount the hoses on the side

magic minnow
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Should I do the back fan as an intake into the cpu fans?

sudden imp
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Probably won’t be as effective cooling down the cpu

magic minnow
sudden imp
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I mean if the cpu fan isn’t in the middle of the cooler it probably won’t transfer heat as efficiently

magic minnow
sudden imp
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Are you having clearance issues with the middle fan and the gpu?

magic minnow
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And just use the 2 on the cpu cooler

sudden imp
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2 on the cpu cooler should be fine

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Are you debating on having an intake?

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I think having the back fan as exhaust would work better

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OHH WAIT

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I see what your doing you having the back fan as intake an another as exhaust at the top

magic minnow
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I just unplugged it and cut the zip ties

sudden imp
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I don’t quite understand what your doing

magic minnow
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And 2 on top as exhaust

sudden imp
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I think that’s a good idea

magic minnow
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Ill do it tomorrow I don't wanna remove the cpu cooler again

reef patrol
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Ah gods damn it. Linus finally sold me on a product.

sudden imp
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What is that case

reef patrol
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Buddy.

sudden imp
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I know it says that

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I’m special right now

reef patrol
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Time for my ole NAS to get a case that's actually designed with harddrives in mind.

sudden imp
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That’s kinda cool looking

reef patrol
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Using an ancient, donated Node304 right now. And I only have the mounts for two disks in it 😄

vagrant pagoda
reef patrol
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shrug

vagrant pagoda
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there is like zero airflow on them

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the fix ive seen is 3d printing a chin to fix fans

reef patrol
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So on par with what I have now. And these drives only run for an hour or two at most every month. But good to there's some 3D options 😄

vagrant pagoda
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the aliexpress on is killer

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its some constellation

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its a side by side tower

reef patrol
vagrant pagoda
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Sagittarius\

reef patrol
vagrant pagoda
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its 8 bay hotswap

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uses 4 120s

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2 for drives and 2 for pc

reef patrol
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Also ugly as sin. 😄

vagrant pagoda
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its a nas

reef patrol
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Yes. A NAS that I will always be able to look at from where I sit.

vagrant pagoda
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get some wood grain veener

reef patrol
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Meh. I'm fine with having a casual case that's sold within the EU.

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After all the Node of all things worked fine so far 😄

gusty kiln
reef patrol
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I don't need no backplane, nor do I want a case that's triple the price 😄

tribal dirge
gusty kiln
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Nah unraid 4 life

vagrant pagoda
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eh

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truenas if you want gui

gusty kiln
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Proxmox if you're a turbo nerd

vagrant pagoda
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proxmox is for vm not nas

gusty kiln
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Yeah and use all the nas os at the same time

vagrant pagoda
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or

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use truenas/unraid as they both support docker and vm

tribal dirge
gusty kiln
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Seems interesting for 11 HDD

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Slightly cheaper than a define r7

vagrant pagoda
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they took a old ass full 51/2 layout case and made it nas

gusty kiln
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Lol

unkempt lake
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@glass stag has been upgraded

marsh glade
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You replaced Nico? 😲

unkempt lake
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nooo

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I got him a new gpu as a gift

glass stag
unkempt lake
marsh glade
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Niice

unkempt lake
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But what's nice is he gets to play battlefield 6 beta at more than low

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:P

vagrant pagoda
young bough
vagrant pagoda
unkempt lake
young bough
unkempt lake
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And i thought eventually i'd give him my 7900XTX

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When i upgrsde from that

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I just have nothing to upgrade to

young bough
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and we are not gonna buy nvidea gpus cuz fk that overpriced shit

unkempt lake
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So instead he gets upgraded to the best value gpu until i upgrade

gusty kiln
vagrant pagoda
young bough
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just check you right

unkempt lake
young bough
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its like 300 bucks cheaper

gusty kiln
young bough
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9060xt gonna be a nice upgrade

vagrant pagoda
unkempt lake
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And with an old cpu

young bough
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lol getting flashbacks when i put my 9070xt in a pcie 1x and was suprised why i had same performance as my gtx 1660

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almost started tweaking i spend 700 bucks on that gpu

unkempt lake
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Most 70/70xt are way above msrp

gentle osprey
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Have fun 5090 owners

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His card was undervolted too

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And still exploded lol

unkempt lake
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♻️

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I posted this yesterday

gentle osprey
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As if you don’t post stuff we’ve seen already

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♻️

unkempt lake
gentle osprey
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lol really

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I doubt it’s the uv

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But crazy nonetheless

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Bros whole motherboard and sockets are torched

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And it didn’t even come from the cable/connecter, it came from the PCIe side

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Weird

mint light
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zotac though. who knows. my FE 5090 has been fine UV at 900mv

gentle osprey
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Yeah who knows, there’s not a lot of info to go by, they just said it was undervolted

mint light
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article probably AI 🤷🏻‍♂️

gentle osprey
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Says it was a prebuilt by NZXT

mint light
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yeah critical “fire hazard” reports were tied to the NZXT H1 case’s PCIe riser assembly in 2020-2021

gentle osprey
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Yeah I remember that

tribal dirge
mint light
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if they were using a riser and they reused some of those

tribal dirge
mint light
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your board has sensors at slot level?

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or you using thermal imaging?

tribal dirge
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also thermal imaging does not work through glass unfortunately

gentle osprey
tribal dirge
empty wren
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@vagrant pagoda how is this for a printer toolhead, shroud is missing that would link the heatblock to heatsink

empty wren
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Yes

tribal dirge
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sickkkkkkk

empty wren
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Do not tell Luke though

tribal dirge
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with the A3DP FXD too

tribal dirge
empty wren
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Please do not, apparently there is NDA hotend and I was told mine looks like it

tribal dirge
empty wren
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But I never seen it and modified my chube air

tribal dirge
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rofl

empty wren
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The chube air is too big in my opinion

tribal dirge
empty wren
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Correcf

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However though, it is horrendous to mount on a stock vcore

tribal dirge
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true haha

empty wren
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So front rail custom heatsink chube air

empty wren
tribal dirge
empty wren
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If you want later I can design you a different mlunt

tribal dirge
empty wren
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The heatsink is slm aluminum

vagrant pagoda
tribal dirge
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They work good enough lol

empty wren
empty wren
tribal dirge
# empty wren Nf crazy

Yeah, you can't find them anymore, you have to message mellow to be able to buy one now.

tribal dirge
tribal dirge
empty wren
tribal dirge
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No full kit

vagrant pagoda
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i have a liquid magnum in my peek

empty wren
tribal dirge
proud moat
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yo quick question. how do i like open the lights on 60 he+? Fn+" doesnt seem to work for me.

tribal dirge
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They are called "Voron design" and not "Voron engineering" for a reason. dogekek dogekek dogekek havo

empty wren
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There might be a few engineers on the team perhaps

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But yeah their printers look pretty than being like annex

tribal dirge
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The 2.4 is the worst of the bunch tbh

empty wren
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Is it because of flying gantry?

tribal dirge
vagrant pagoda
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chube looks neet

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but its still less meltzone than a prime xD

empty wren
empty wren
vagrant pagoda
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but not 150w XD

empty wren
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Can do 120w

empty wren
tribal dirge
vagrant pagoda
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yeah but with 1.75 you gonna need a nema 34 to feed it

empty wren
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Oh right slice supports 2.85 filament

empty wren
tribal dirge
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which is kinda dumb

empty wren
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Now I understand why monolith exists

tribal dirge
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yup, LMAO

vagrant pagoda
empty wren
empty wren
# tribal dirge yup, LMAO

I have a buddy doing monolith for his vcore 4.0 300. & 500 cuz he got super pissed off at ratrig design

vagrant pagoda
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i get like 0.3-0.5kg per hour

empty wren
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Remind me your nozzle orifice size

mint light
vagrant pagoda
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i run 1.4 and 1.8 most of the time XD

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3mm filament

tribal dirge
tribal dirge
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yeah, plus that connection point is really only my concern, so it's ok to just tape on a thermistor and measure it directly.

vagrant pagoda
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500m cube printer

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fits a voron about

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cut a hole and get a china germanium window for the thermal camera

empty wren
vagrant pagoda
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its all 5050

empty wren
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Oh shoot dude

vagrant pagoda
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and milled brackets

empty wren
vagrant pagoda
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oneday when its not printing paid stuff XD

empty wren
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Fair enough nda

vagrant pagoda
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i want to put a hotend on the sheet router

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to make bulk parts

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put 2 or 3 hotends on the gantry and multi print the same part

empty wren
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Autodesk sketch project or along that lines exist lemme find it

vagrant pagoda
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yeah its a thing

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i gotta get press brake working first

pale sigil
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Replacement fire stick seems to be better lol

distant tapir
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The desk I wanted is not rated to support the weight of my stuff soydespair

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It apparently is rated for no more than 50 kg. How much do you think it matters if it ends up having around 80 kg on it?

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I assume it will not snap immediately or anything but I wonder if it means it will wear it and sag quickly

empty wren
# tribal dirge LEL

Just a small suggestion, you could move later to a 2510 fan, which has higher pressure and is compact. It will be louder than that 4010 which I assume is a gdstime one

tribal dirge
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I actually use a delta one now

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rather than the gdstime ones

young bough
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Have yall tried micrphones from aliexpress

vagrant pagoda
distant tapir
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But my monitor is 30 kg. Speakers + stands is 23,8 kg. Then there is my PC which weighs several kilos. None of this is account for when I lean on the desk either

vagrant pagoda
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30kg monitor? you got a crt?

distant tapir
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Yes... I'm guessing you just forgot 🤔

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Apparently the Ikea Mittzon with a motor can support up to 80 kg which is more than the non-motorised version

pastel galleon
distant tapir
magic minnow
digital cliff
distant tapir
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But I saw that the motorised version goes up to 80 kg

pastel galleon
# distant tapir It's good

I just can't switch to OLED, because LCD strobing of ULMB 2 on my PG27AQN is so much more clear than OLED in motion. I would imagine CRTs might be better for motion clarity than either though

digital cliff
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it's chipboard and veneer

gentle osprey
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^^

digital cliff
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technically it will support 80kg but with 30kg smack middle unsupported it's going to sag

gentle osprey
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or just snap under pressure

distant tapir
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What do I do then? its_over

digital cliff
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you need a wood top or a central leg for your CRT in order for the top to not start sagging

gentle osprey
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^

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Yeah install middle support or butcher block type top

distant tapir
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Ikea sells legs. Like the Olov

pastel galleon
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it's less pressure applied to the middle, and also better weight distribution if there is an extra leg too

distant tapir
pastel galleon
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especially right under yeah

distant tapir
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I want a desk that is around 160 x 80 cm

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It can be slightly wider or deeper but not less

digital cliff
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you don't buy a desk because a desk is just those two things as a bundle

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easier to find them in right size and style separately

distant tapir
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I'm almost considering just selling my monitor and buying an oled + desk with the money I'd get that for that and be rid all the issues I have with desk and speaker compatability...

distant tapir
magic minnow
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Vibranium desk

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@digital cliff yes?

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I'm gonna put 2 fans on top for exhaust

lunar elm
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how is a monitor 30kg

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thats like TV area

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oh

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i can hardly lift 30kg myself lel

distant tapir
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The 42 inch C2 I had was only 6 kg or something

magic minnow
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So like this?

digital cliff
distant tapir
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30 kg is liftable but the shape of the monitor makes it not ergonomical

lunar elm
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oh bro is gonna carry me to the gulag-

magic minnow
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Well I had the CPU fans intaking from the rear intake fan on the first pic

lunar elm
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Nah im gonna run

magic minnow
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Pushing towards the 2 exhaust fans on top

lunar elm
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I got the weight reduction for better acceleration and cornering

magic minnow
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Tyty

raw zephyr
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build it without a case, maximum airflow, profit

distant tapir
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I am genuinely considering just putting the monitor up for sale today, and when I sell it (which trust me will probably not take too long) I'll just buy a PG27UCDM evilShrug

lunar elm
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A guy ik bought that and it died within 8 hrs

distant tapir
lunar elm
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yes

raw zephyr
astral haven
lunar elm
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he went to return it, dk if he’ll get a refund lol

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iirc he bought it from newegg

distant tapir
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Bad luck. Though it's still the one I'd get and if mine died I'd just get a new one for free

astral haven
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agreed except 27 inch monitors bleh

distant tapir
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Do you prefer the 32 inch model or do you prefer another aspect ratio

astral haven
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32 inch for the wiiin

steady sail
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27” is the best 32” is little too big shrug

astral haven
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27 inch 4k is a nice pixel density but 4k32 is fine enough density but the size is very nice

astral haven
distant tapir
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I'm so used to 21 inch that 27 would feel pretty large for me again

astral haven
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yea 1440p 27 is almost too large,

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that is what i was on before

steady sail
astral haven
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what i really want is 8k42

astral haven
raw zephyr
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What does one need 8k for 😅

astral haven
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yes?

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4k and 1440p both look perfect on 8k

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1440p on 4k isnt

distant tapir
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Lots of older games can be played at 8k with good performance. Breathes a new life into them

steady sail
distant tapir
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The most likely issue with them might be tiny UIs depending on if the UI scales or not

astral haven
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yea and remember its 8k42, so its quad monitor 4k21 effectively

astral haven
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in fact, 8k with 4k content even without scaling looks better than 4k on 4k

raw zephyr
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i'm sure it looks great, but it really seems a bit excessive; nothing is 8k ready yet

distant tapir
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When I played Dragon Age Origins at 4k the UI was tiny neuroNODDERS

astral haven
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so you get the 48 or 55 version 🤷

raw zephyr
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are there 8k monitors or are they all tvs?

astral haven
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the small ones all got cancelled

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single monitor?

distant tapir
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Unrelated but do you think these people feel ashamed when they make these thumbnail faces? Do you think they are embarrassed to tell their irl friends they run a channel since they do not want them to see that?

astral haven
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im a dual monitor lifer, and if i switched from dual to single, the amount of space taken up by my monitor would go down

raw zephyr
distant tapir
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I just realised he photoshopped his face under Linux's beard and hair

unkempt lake
raw zephyr
unkempt lake
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Linus at home: this thumbnail

distant tapir
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Is Kryosheet good btw? It sounds nice

astral haven
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with a current 8k tv, you can just do that, most 8k tvs take multiple inputs and do pbp

raw zephyr
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Isn't kryosheet useful for like VRAM and other stuff where paste is not applicable?

astral haven
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and thats only if you dont want to deal with the blue goop

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but once you get past all the asterisks yea its good

raw zephyr
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I thought it comes in a universal size and you cut it to your needs

astral haven
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it doesnt

raw zephyr
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Aha

astral haven
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the vram wasnt toasty, it was toasted

raw zephyr
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I've been using the Arctic MX-4 paste for the majority of my life, it does what it needs to do and is not too expensive; I've seen the ThermalGrizzly products perform really well though

astral haven
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the heat comes from the core, and because hbm has to be touching the core directly, it gets heated by it

astral haven
raw zephyr
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Delivery guy has been trying to deliver my GPU to the pickup point for the last 4 days, maybe today is the day, wish him luck guys

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It's funny they don't even bother trying to deliver it to another pickup point close to the primary one, they just drive it back to a 100km distant city 😅

astral haven
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excellent

raw zephyr
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nginx now ships with native ACME protocol, doesn't that make certbot a little more obsolete?

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Yeah, I like Caddy for my homelab stuff, Traefik for public facing crap

astral haven
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yall are working hard for your reverse proxies when cloudflare is as free as it gets

raw zephyr
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Oh I still run my stuff behind Cloudflare Proxy

astral haven
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yea but i mean cloudflare tunnels

raw zephyr
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Ah

astral haven
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my home network has zero open ports beyond the vunlns in my isp modem lol

raw zephyr
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You sadly cannot run game servers via Cloudflare Tunnels

astral haven
astral haven
raw zephyr
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It's just an extra hassle to get running for them, it needs to be as easy as it gets, so I keep a couple of ports open

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As long as you change the default port to something completely random, it's good enough for most scanners

astral haven
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do you have a full on snort and suricata setup or a more basic firewall?

raw zephyr
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It makes sense

astral haven
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yea most ports are very much needed for web traffic to not be horribly broken

raw zephyr
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I remember my last ISP checked my firewall if it was "ready" for a public IP and I had to make a couple of changes actually

astral haven
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yea but what are you using for inspection

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software

raw zephyr
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pfSense or OPNsense, what else could it be? 😅

astral haven
raw zephyr
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🤷‍♂️

astral haven
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pfsense can run firewall software, but if you are spinning your own vm youve gotta roll your own

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yes, suricata runs on bsd just fine

raw zephyr
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I should dabble into some custom firewall solution, but currently I'm just fine with a Mikrotik router

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Lil Squiddy, the rapper

astral haven
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id be more concerned about the inbound connection, which is why i mentioned suricata and snort when hosting stuffs online

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i mean how are you checking traffic to your servers at all?

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squid doesnt mention being able to do that?

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yea but is it only webservers that you host?

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ah

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yea i have a bunch of other servers on various ports, so i cant rely on just dropping all traffic to other ports

umbral heron
crimson wigeon
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Bash but no less? Curious! More should still be there, since it's the standard POSIX utility

rough osprey
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Asus support lowkey goated

halcyon moss
umbral heron
crimson wigeon
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Believe it or not but less is not actually a standard package, just most distros choose to have it installed by default because less is more

umbral heron
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Me fool thought it's a part of coreutils hanaSad

crimson wigeon
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It is certainly not part of GNU coreutils and uutils, it is in BusyBox though

wheat plume
umbral heron
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SilvervaleGiggles
This is pixelate tool from Spectacle hana_Yes

wheat plume
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Oh xdd

raw zephyr
rough osprey
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monitor had a problem so i got a replacement unit in 2 days

raw zephyr
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Didnt you have the PG27AQDP? What problem?

rough osprey
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some of the pixels in a corner went dark

raw zephyr
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oh damn

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how much power on time did you have?

rough osprey
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1700h

raw zephyr
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i will check mine out of curiosity when i get home, but i think im little over 1k

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very unfortunate though, hopefully mine doesnt do that 😅

rough osprey
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not ideal

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but i mean now i got a new one lol

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so not a huge issue

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its in the monitor menu

plush stirrup
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I remember the times I was just able to get an eMTA modem, and you could get up to 16 public IP's on it 🤣 I had a WiFi network which would give connected devices a public IP (a powerline was needed for their TV device, and it had WiFi, which I couldn't turn off, since it follows my router settings, but I didn't have one of their routers, sooooo)

vagrant pagoda
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at some point the passthough nic will fail or some boot issue will happen

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i just have a old intel pc with a pikvm

tribal dirge
vagrant pagoda
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i have used dell ultrasharps that have like 3-4k too

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no issues

young bough
umbral heron
vagrant pagoda
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service menu

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umbral heron
vagrant pagoda
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XD

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ips dont really wear out

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the backlights can

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even led

umbral heron
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My work monitors are well used, holy heck dogekek

digital cliff
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while not particularly aliexpress mic, it's sold there mostly Shrug cheap enough

bronze vessel
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Probably you just got unlucky

tribal dirge
vagrant pagoda
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nah ive had sveral with dark spots from led failures

devout raptor
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I think my options are either this, the LG B4

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or the S85D

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I heard its the same panel so ill pick which ever one goes on a proper sale the first

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alltho i might lose my job soon so I dont know if buying a tv is the move rn🤣

balmy vector
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Lg just refreshed too, so b4 could be lower with b5 out now

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Well if you might lose you job then id probably hold off hmmMeeting1 hmmMeeting2

fickle ore
#

Losing a job is fine if u got like 500k saved up

devout raptor
#

who the hell has that much saved up

fickle ore
#

idk, probably nobody xD

vagrant pagoda
#

rich people

#

xd

fickle ore
#

money = mana

vagrant pagoda
devout raptor
#

eat the rich

pale sigil
#

@ashen spindle I'm considering converting these coax cables, what are the chances it'll just be 100mb do you reckon?

#

Every room has them

ashen spindle
#

no clue lol

pale sigil
#

Converters are not cheap XD

#

Maybe I'll try power line first

#

But it would be nice to have a switch in my living room

#

Without wiring on the ceiling

raw zephyr
#

Nintendo Switch 2 with the Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller?!!1

patent carbon
# devout raptor or the S85D

Looks like verkkokauppa? If so, they have a sale on the latest model of that television as well. This: https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/982445/Samsung-55-S95F-4K-QD-OLED-TV

I literally just bought this 2 weeks ago. It's a bit more, but the brightness and matte coating are largely improved from the 85-series, which matters greatly in the well-lit room it's in. Too many angled windows I can't properly cover.

#

I think the difference between F and D of those series is just the coating on the screen. D is shiny, F is matte?

#

Eitherway, imo go for the Samsung unless you need the LG software. My only issue with the Samsung Tizen software is there is no Jellyfin app. 😢

steady sail
patent carbon
#

Yeah, understandable, just tossing in some options. I'd have gone with the cheaper 85-series myself if I didn't require those 2 improvements I mentioned. Could have bought another 80HE!

#

I did some decent research on the latest LG C & B series versus the Samsung 85 & 95 series, and do think that the viewing should be a bit nicer on the Samsungs, despite what I would consider more restrictive software.

rough patrol
pale sigil
#

I can look into it but it goes into the loft I think

rough patrol
#

Or, alternatively, idk how coax cables are physically but it could be possible to put your own connectors on it (again, not sure if this would work cause idk if coax has all the needed wires

pale sigil
#

But in the living room it's in the wall.

rough patrol
#

If its in the wall you can take off the cover and do the same

pale sigil
#

So the biggest problem is there's cables in each room so I'm pretty sure id have to be able to get into the loft?

rough patrol
#

Yeah idk where the cables terminate so that may also be an issue

pale sigil
#

XD

#

XD

#

Id have to hire someone

rough patrol
#

hmm you dont have friends or family that could help?

rough osprey
vagrant pagoda
#

youd have best luck running wifi over it lmao

#

just get like a 40-50db attenuator and some type to rpsma

astral haven
# pale sigil

That looks like rg59 which was made for tv not rg6 which is meant for data
But both have tons more bandwidth than MOCA uses

#

What I'd be more concerned about is it still being used for tv, but even then moca will still work

pale sigil
#

Unless for some reason nextdoor uses the same wiring which I doubt

astral haven
#

No I mean the line itself

pale sigil
#

Oh

#

Hmmm

astral haven
#

If the line is hooked up to the main Circuit, it has tv signals

pale sigil
#

Ah

vagrant pagoda
astral haven
#

Hdx

#

But moca is not that expensive...

#

And it can do 2.5 gig over 1 coax

vagrant pagoda
#

yeah but if you already had 2 coax you can manually make normal ethernet work though it

#

get 2 type-f male and solder some twisted pair to it

#

100mbit isonly 2 pairs

#

ive dont ~100 yard over 2 rg59s like that

#

but single your sol

vagrant pagoda
#

yeah i know that exists and works for single

#

but its practically free to do ethernet of 2 coax vs using moca

#

it has no issues over 50ohm at 100mbit

astral haven
#

Yea but its literally 50x slower

magic minnow
#

@unkempt lake I think my problem is fixed

vagrant pagoda
#

gbit vs 100mbit is 10

unkempt lake
astral haven
vagrant pagoda
#

you linked a 1gbit

astral haven
#

2pair can't run fdx

vagrant pagoda
#

yeah it can

#

100mbit is only 2 pair, one tx one rx

astral haven
vagrant pagoda
#

thats double the price of the other one

#

im not saying moca dosent work

#

im saying that you can literaly just wire a rj45 to 2 coax and it will do 100mbit

#

100mbit ethernet is only 2 pairs. gbit is 4 pair.

#

if you own a ethernet cable and a soldering iron you can run 100mbit over 2 coax for free

astral haven
#

Well damn I was wrong
Why tf does none of our gear work in fdx mode when I miss a wire then???

vagrant pagoda
#

you gotta force it

#

manually set 100mbit full duplex

astral haven
#

Hmm

#

Well, what I actually do is I just fix the wire, but...

#

Still
Very rude!

vagrant pagoda
#

ive never treid 100mbit half duplex over coax

#

that should work

#

or even gbit half duplex over 2

#

but i know 100% rg59 will do 100mbit over 2

#

by soldering some female-female adapters to twised pair

plush stirrup
vagrant pagoda
plush stirrup
#

though both installs don't do nic passthrough, using a bridge

#

well they, and I, use it as a router aswell, it's their VPN exit point aswell

astral haven
#

Now that unifios is available as a full on os with all features now, its hard to recommend pfsense for anyone who isn't being paid to do it...

umbral heron
nimble arch
#

lol, lmao even

#

Linux users when the boot isn’t secure

umbral heron
#

It's Windows this time SwitchySippy

nimble arch
#

Linux

umbral heron
#

Linux SSDs were unplugged, it was Windows 11 hanaSit

#

What's even funnier is that Linux with enrolled keys actually boots with Secure Boot enabled SwitchyComfy

vapid ruin
#

but it'll prop be $3000 VR headset

nimble arch
#

Don't UEFIs have a Windows secure boot mode anyway?

#

That's what the default is on my ASUS motherboard anyway

rough osprey
umbral heron
#

That's why it surprised me hanaconfuse

vapid ruin
#

it'll be too cool for AR application

nimble arch
#

Update your UEFI maybe?

vapid ruin
#

I just realized, this tech is lit what you experience when you're being called in CP2077

#

Like a 3d image of the person on the other side and all of their movement being tracked and such. And have depth to top it all of

umbral heron
#

I'll try to enroll keys via Windows when SB is in setup mode and then from Windows still sign GRUB .efi file

nimble arch
#

You shouldn't need it in setup mode for Windows 11 though?

#

It should just work out of the box

umbral heron
#

I had iso on Ventoy and my coworker disabled SB checking when he installed W11 on servers

vapid ruin
#

Naow then, to wait for meta to adapt it and make it like $500 headset out of it

#

also, it's kinda like CRT from the way they explain it

#

240fps too, assumign the res can be 4k at least, it's going to be pretty nice.

umbral heron
#

Fixed SwitchyConfetti
Turns out the problem was leftover Windows 10 efi entry and files from previous installation
Removed them with bcdedit, works SilvervaleBoxs

unkempt lake
#

@umbral heron what do you even need to do in windows

umbral heron
#

Battlefield duck_bopping

unkempt lake
#

he gave up

#

On linux world

#

For A GAME

#

BETRAYALLLL

nimble arch
#

Cals about to get carpet bombed by a penguin

umbral heron
reef patrol
#

Plenty of easy ways to get that back.

umbral heron
#

Teach me SwitchyComfy

unkempt lake
pale sigil
#

Or is this Nico's

unkempt lake
unkempt lake
gentle osprey
pale sigil
gentle osprey
#

Ah , don’t we all

pale sigil
#

Proof

#

Taking donations

unkempt lake
#

Nico is on like a cheap intel 3.0 nvme

#

If we reinstalling windows for amd

#

Getting a better nvme was worth

gentle osprey
#

Uninstall windows, reinstall life

#

Install yoga

#

Install sunglasses

unkempt lake
#

Ye was like 140$

gentle osprey
#

Sounds like it

bright briar
# pale sigil

briish laws forcing you to download those spicey videossadosucat

gentle osprey
#

Oh

bright briar
#

into the slammer you go bruv

steady sail
bright briar
wheat plume
frozen ingot
#

gross

plush stirrup
#

what is my ISP doing lately 😭

#

this is the 5th day of issues in a row or so

steady sail
#

magic

plush stirrup
#

hi

steady sail
#

i mean they do Magic KEKL

#

magic-ISP

plush stirrup
#

imagine being in a discord vc xD

steady sail
#

10/10

plush stirrup
#

seems like it was a more noticable outage this time, since reports on downdetector spiked 😄

steady sail
#

LMAO

plush stirrup
#

down again ayyy

#

I'm just trying to play cs maaan 😭

steady sail
plush stirrup
plush stirrup
#

I just sent my ISP a message, apparently the last message I sent them is where I called them worthless 🥲

#

4 people were having mobile issues with no mobile data on 5G, yet it must be my simcard! I think they've fixed it by now though it's been a year, their response time to technical issues is months 😄

reef patrol
gusty kiln
#

is this better than microsd express or the same thing?

#

damn hope the steam deck 2 uses it

reef patrol
#

There's a chart. Theoretically 3x max speed?

gusty kiln
#

jeeez

#

guess you can record 16K raw with that lol

minor zealot
#

so my ethernet disconnects then is 1/10th of the speed and then it doesn't disconnect anymore

#

i checked and the last realtek network driver update was from 3.5 years ago, should i update that before i start cutting and redoing ethernet cables?

steady sail
#

Can be ISP or even ur motherboards ethernet chip

minor zealot
#

i got a brand new router today and the issue is still there

#

so i doubt its the ISP

#

and if it was motherboard chip it prob wouldnt allow for 1gbps ethernet then disconnect to 100 mbps and once its at 100 mbps it doesnt disconnect at all anymore

#

seems like a driver or cable issue

steady sail
#

No your mobo chip is shiet

minor zealot
#

i got a new cable so i was gonna cut and redo the cables that are in the wall and router

steady sail
#

I had the same issue

minor zealot
#

and how did u fix it

steady sail
#

I had to power my mobo 24/7 to be able to get 1gbit

ashen spindle
steady sail
#

I switched mobo no problem anymore

minor zealot
ashen spindle
#

yeah

fickle ore
#

@ashen spindle possible US gov stake speculation - looks pretty likely

ashen spindle
#

if its a 2.5gb port renegotiation is a common issue with those and this would stop it, if thats not fixing it idk, somethings broken then, could be the port, the board, the cable, the isp, anything

ashen spindle
#

this is a nice plus for a daytrade but only put it back up to where it was before the last earnings

minor zealot
fickle ore
#

ye true for now

minor zealot
#

but ill try setting it to 1 and then restarting

fickle ore
#

just saying if u were holding intel bags

minor zealot
#

okay os it did set it to 1gbps for rn

#

but i bet it will disconnect in a bit and set it back to 100mbps

ashen spindle
#

if you're holding intel bags you either should just play in vegas or are sad because you entered like in 2022 and hope it hoes back up lol

minor zealot
#

someone earlier said it was due to a faulty cable and that it couldnt handle 1gbps so it set it to 100mbps

ashen spindle
#

could be

#

really hard to narrow it down

minor zealot
#

yep well i got a brand new router today

#

and a new ethernet cable from pc to wall

gusty kiln
#

intel would be a good day trade stock

minor zealot
#

so if this doesnt help im gonna cut and rewire to new connectors

steady sail
fickle ore
minor zealot
#

and if that fails i gotta do a whoe new cable in the wall

minor zealot
#

i was told cat 5e or cat6 should be fine

steady sail
fickle ore
ashen spindle
fickle ore
#

aww hop on this boat lol lets be in it together

#

Whats life without little risk

ashen spindle
#

no I like making money not losing it dogekek

minor zealot
fickle ore
#

But look at INTC mcap

minor zealot
#

well the connector that goes into the router

fickle ore
#

iits like below 100b

#

if it goes TSMC bc us stocks always have premium so it'll 10x and 10k makes u 100k

ashen spindle
#

yeah and there is a real chance they get split up or bought out or some sor tof insolvency due to failing foundry

fickle ore
#

Split up just means u get stocks in both of those companies

#

wudnt mind that tbh

ashen spindle
#

yeah but it doesnt mean its a favorable split

fickle ore
#

X_x

minor zealot
#

so far its still solid, lets see if it can reach the hour mark

#

wait @ashen spindle it couldve also been that my ethernet didnt notice the new router earlier becouse first it said ''netwerk 3'' here and now its just ''netwerk''

#

so it couldve possible been the outdated router

ashen spindle
#

I suppose

minor zealot
#

earlier when i tried fixing it, it would swap to 1gbps and then not even 5 min later it would disconnect and reconnect like 3 times

#

and then go back to 1/10th of the speed

minor zealot
ashen spindle
#

after at leasy 150 runs of 1000W+ XOC
I mean..

minor zealot
#

@ashen spindle nope, almost 2 hours and it disconnected and went to 1/10th

#

weird that it took so long

#

wait i have this on

#

''the pc can disable this to save energy''

unkempt lake
#

in this specfic case tho yeah its on jay lol

ashen spindle
#

thats not relevant when you use something specced for 600w and push 1200 throuhg it

#

yeah

young bough
minor zealot
ashen spindle
#

fibre or coax for gigabit isnt uncommon in NL

minor zealot
#

its fibre

young bough
#

what internet company

minor zealot
#

it sucked that it wasn't the solution, guess ima have to cut cables and try again

young bough
minor zealot
#

i don't even know what we pay a month but its not allot

#

maybe cuz we been customer for FOREVER but we called a few days ago and they said we would pay more if we went down in speed

ashen spindle
#

literally any of your big isp will offer it if the place has fibre, vodafone or anyone for normal prices

young bough
#

if you use odido but isnt odido hella shit

minor zealot
#

KPN

young bough
#

oh

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we dont have more than 200mb/s option in my area for kpn

minor zealot
#

damn

young bough
#

200mb/s is 45 eur/month

minor zealot
#

i doubt we even pay that

young bough
#

wtf

minor zealot
#

we've had the package for like 7 years, ever since we moved here

#

idk 🤷

fair gull
#

when its been 2 years since youre getting fibre but the company putting it in has no clue when you will get it

unkempt lake
#

Imagine having fibre

fair gull
#

at least i can relax with the ziggo gbit coax plan

unkempt lake
#

coax go brrr

minor zealot
#

well my ethernet is fucked entirely so idk

young bough
#

wowww 200mb!!!!!

minor zealot
#

i have to figure out whats wrong with it

young bough
#

fking dumbasses as if we dont live in a top 1st world country

unkempt lake
young bough
#

man sometimes netherlands pisses me off

unkempt lake
#

In the middle of nowhere in canada

fair gull
young bough
#

maybe i just live in a shithole of a place then

minor zealot
#

these are my normal speeds but something is messed up so i only get 95 up and down rn

unkempt lake
#

to be fair most i could get was 500/50 till like 3 months ago

#

Anyhow i'll just say

#

500 was fine

fair gull
minor zealot
#

what happens is its fine, then it disconnects and sets it to 100mbps

#

and then it never disconnects again

fair gull
#

aka half duplex speed

unkempt lake
#

I just got 1gb because sometimes i want to install a game on 2 pcs at once

#

At the same time

minor zealot
unkempt lake
#

Now they're both good to go with 500 each

fair gull
#

real question is why your ethernet controller negotiates 100mbit with the router/switch as the link speed

minor zealot
#

in the cable thats connected to the router

#

cuz i got a brand new router today

fair gull
#

easiest test is if you can hook another pc/laptop to the same cable as it is

minor zealot
#

ill do that tomorrow

#

but it will prob give the same issue

#

then idk what the problem can be

fair gull
#

if it does you can only check either a new cable or new router

#

or well a different port if your router has more

minor zealot
#

so it has to be a faulty cable that runs thru the wall from router to room wall ports

fair gull
#

can be yes

plush stirrup
fair gull
#

hence youd connect a cable straight from the router to the pc

#

to skip anything you cant replace

minor zealot
#

so im gonna cut it, wire it again to see and hope its a faulty connector or whatever if not ill have to run a new wire thru wall

fair gull
#

if theres enough room in the wall canal thats not too bad

#

can just tape the new cable to the old one and pull it through

minor zealot
minor zealot
#

shouldn't be too hard

fair gull
#

ideally you could just borrow an ethernet cable tester from somewhere

minor zealot
#

my uncle has one

#

but first im gonna cut and get a new connector and if that solves it

#

then i will be very happy

#

earlier i forced it to 1gbps and it stayed without problem for almost 2 hours

#

then it just went back to 100 mbps

#

@fair gull do you know off the top of ur head what cable i need to get if i wanna run it thru the wall?

fair gull
#

somewhat depends

#

i personally always like going with F/UTP Cat6a or Cat7

minor zealot
#

so this

fair gull
#

if thats all they have i guess. usually i go F/UTP so its foil shielded around the twisted pair bundle but the twisted pairs arent shielded individually

#

helps when pulling it next to electricity lines etc

minor zealot
#

ah here is ftp

fair gull
#

ye depending on whats right next to the cables youd use ftp or utp and if you are unsure id always choose ftp personally

minor zealot
#

nvm thats 425 EUR for 100 meters

minor zealot
#

straight to the router

fair gull
#

i mean if the electrical wiring is a bit away utp could also work fine

#

a few cm is enough btw in a wall

minor zealot
#

yea these only sell per 50 meters at least

fair gull
#

the idea is just that the AC frequency of electrical wire cant interfere with anything in the cable

minor zealot
fair gull
minor zealot
#

ill check tomorrow with my laptop first if its the cable

minor zealot
fair gull
#

for 400 you can get 500m of S/FTP cat7 from some vendors

minor zealot
#

do you have a go to shop?

fair gull
#

not in NL no

minor zealot
#

this is normal cat 6 f utp tho

fair gull
#

the main difference from cat6 to cat6a is that cat6a can in theory do 10gbit

#

and cat7 just pushes how far the cable can go and still support 10gbit

#

so it would mainly be future proofing

minor zealot
#

eh i only need 1 gbit anyway

astral haven
minor zealot
#

still at parents home so i doubt they will ever upgrade internet 1gbit is already overkill

#

ill just try and get cat 6 s/ftp

fair gull
astral haven
#

Cat7 doesn't use rj45 per standard

minor zealot
#

20 Euro for 50M cat 6 S/FTP

astral haven
astral haven
#

But its only a couple extra minutes

fair gull
#

everything is more fun to terminate than those plastic core and plaster filled cables i had to use once cause of fire regulations

#

fudge those

minor zealot
#

idk if i need stiff or supple core

minor zealot
#

but gotta think ahead for worst case

minor zealot
#

wdym nah

astral haven
#

Do you have one of these?

minor zealot
#

yes

astral haven
#

Terminate it with this not by splicing please

minor zealot
#

oh yea ofc

fair gull
#

wait you dont use wirenuts to splice cables

#

i really wanna do that now just for the meme

minor zealot
#

but the issue is still weird to me, i got a brand new router, ethernet cable from wall to pc, 1gbps ethernet works fine, disconnects after a while then sets speed to 100mbps and once its on 100mbps it won't disconnect again.

fair gull
#

to me just sounds like a pair is somehow losing connection so the link speed is renegotiated

minor zealot
#

so that would mean its the cable that goes from router to the wall socket here then

#

there is a fault in that, i tried different ports in the router etc

fair gull
#

could be anything between the router and your pc

minor zealot
#

right, im testing on laptop tomorrow to eliminate (hopefully) my pc being faulty

#

so then the only option that would be faulty is the cable from router to wall socket

fair gull
#

id do a test from router to laptop directly first in that scenario wiht a short piece of preterminated ethernet cable

#

if that works then id move the laptop to the ethernet cable the pc uses

minor zealot
#

got it, i don't think we have ANY spare ethernet cables tho but ill yoink one

#

i might have one

#

k found a cat 6 utp cable, a short one

#

so tomorrow ill go from router straight to laptop if that works fine from wall socket to laptop (same as pc) and if that fails it must be the cable from router to wall socket

iron wave
#
$ iperf -p 4096 -c 10.0.2.1 -P 8
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 10.0.2.1, TCP port 4096
TCP window size: 16.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  6] local 10.0.2.2 port 42904 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/62)
[  1] local 10.0.2.2 port 42900 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/179)
[  3] local 10.0.2.2 port 42860 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/222)
[  4] local 10.0.2.2 port 42862 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/218)
[  5] local 10.0.2.2 port 42902 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/114)
[  7] local 10.0.2.2 port 42920 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/71)
[  2] local 10.0.2.2 port 42890 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/206)
[  8] local 10.0.2.2 port 42930 connected with 10.0.2.1 port 4096 (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/54)
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  2] 0.0000-10.0204 sec  1.48 GBytes  1.27 Gbits/sec
[  8] 0.0000-10.0203 sec  1.44 GBytes  1.24 Gbits/sec
[  3] 0.0000-10.0204 sec  1.19 GBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec
[  4] 0.0000-10.0366 sec  1.22 GBytes  1.04 Gbits/sec
[  5] 0.0000-10.0377 sec  1.37 GBytes  1.17 Gbits/sec
[  1] 0.0000-10.0366 sec  1.21 GBytes  1.04 Gbits/sec
[  6] 0.0000-10.0376 sec  1.57 GBytes  1.35 Gbits/sec
[  7] 0.0000-10.0369 sec  1.49 GBytes  1.27 Gbits/sec
[SUM] 0.0000-10.0085 sec  11.0 GBytes  9.42 Gbits/sec

Huh, that's interesting. This CPU isn't fast enough for 10Gbps single threaded.

#

(I was only getting 4Gbps with a single thread)

ashen spindle
#

what cpu

iron wave
#

i7-3770K IIRC.

ashen spindle
#

oh xD

iron wave
#

I'll check after a reboot.

ashen spindle
#

wonder if its really the cpu or the ram that would limit that

iron wave
#

I forgot to presist the static IP address. sadtater

#

It shouldn't be the memory for something like iperf though?

#
model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
#

Also if it was memory more threads wouldn't fix it.

#

Once the system comes back up from this reboot I'll try dd.

#
$ dd if=/dev/random of=random.bin count=1M bs=32K
1048576+0 records in
1048576+0 records out
34359738368 bytes (34 GB, 32 GiB) copied, 123.249 s, 279 MB/s
$ dd of=/dev/null if=random.bin count=1M bs=32K
^C33909+0 records in
33908+0 records out
1111097344 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 249.097 s, 4.5 MB/s

WEIRD

#

Looking at the CPU usage on this thing doing the server things I want it to do.

Yeah it's underpowered.

#

Load average of 11!?

#

This thing has 8 threads.

distant tapir
#

This is why you get a Volvo 240 instead

raw zephyr
mild patrol
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is ryzen 7 7700 good?

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for valorant

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or should i stick with the ryzen 7 5800x

digital cliff
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maybe about 10% uplift in purely CPU-bound scenarios

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if you are not cpu-bound in the games you play then it's just a waste of money

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or at most couple %-points

mild patrol
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i just mainly play val so yeah

digital cliff
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so you can maybe see up to 10%

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just going off of this, 1080p gaming aggregate

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1440p it shrinks to 7% already

mild patrol
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i just do 1080

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should i get the x version?

halcyon moss
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you need a new motherboard as well

lunar elm
magic minnow
fair gull
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crazy to get a new mobo and cpu for 10% increase AT BEST

vapid ruin
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i mean, they could get 5800x3d and get close to 7700

fair gull
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i thought thats what they have

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oh wait they had the non 3d

vapid ruin
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yeh, so 5800x to 5800x3d should be a nice up still if they're going to 7700. Should last long enough until AM6

fair gull
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i mean imo the 5800x also can easily last till then

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@silver egret thats a nono and against the rules

ashen spindle
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Would be more than 10% valorant likes to scale really well on amd cpus

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Like you get 1000fps with a 9800x3d

halcyon moss
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which, for reference, is a lot more than 60fps!

umbral heron
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My brother
Just DMed me
If I'll buy him a new GPU
Because his current 6700XT is too slow for BF6 hanaSit

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Almost HanaNodders
Real answer should be "FIND A SUMMER JOB AND STOP ASKING ME FOR PC UPGRADES reeeee"

halcyon moss
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my 5700xt runs bf6 fine on auto settings

crimson wigeon
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My 6700XT runs it fine at 1440p, with some FSR and I think a healthy mix of medium quality graphics

digital cliff
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regardless it wasn't that bad, but it definitely wasn't comparable to Nvidia's thing

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i dunno how it is now with whatever versions we are up to

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I don't think I've really used them ever so don't know

ashen spindle
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fsr1 is the spatial one and was horrible, fsr2 added temporal components

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fsr3 just added frame gen and improved the base upscaler

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but its still all universal

digital cliff
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and we are up to fsr4 now?

ashen spindle
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fsr4 is what uses rdna4 specific hardware acceleration, with a port to rdna3 possible but might come later or not at all

digital cliff
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i see noted

crimson wigeon
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Dunno, looks perfectly fine in BF6 for me, game is so fast paced I can't take the time to look at the details

ashen spindle
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And FSR redstone is the upcoming suite if tools that include stuff that does the same as nvidias denoiser and other ml stuff

umbral heron
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Based on Redstone? Java or Bedrock edition hanaIsee

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Almost like the hardware and firmware is not ready yet 02wow

crimson wigeon
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Oh yeah, some of the reflections in BF6 look nasty with the noisiness

ashen spindle
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Yeah but chicken egg problem you can’t just have 20x the current hardware out of nowhere and then have working RT

umbral heron
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Sure
Make games with RT HanaNodders

crimson wigeon
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What happened anyway, why in modern games are screen space reflections so incredibly noisy, I swear older games had them nice and sharp

umbral heron
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Don't force it though hanaSit

crimson wigeon
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I would rather have inaccuracy than incredibly distracting and ugly noise

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Maybe I should try the different graphics settings even if the game does that asshole thing of being "lol you must restart to apply :)"

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Could be the funny thing where medium looks worse than low

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I know Frostbite has that kind of thing before, where low antialiasing looked way better than high antialiasing due to crappy TAA implementation

lyric hatch
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thing is with modern games is that they basically require more advanced forms of temporal AA

fair gull
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great my gfs phone and pc now randomluy roam to a worse ap

umbral heron
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We need a good current frame AA
Temporal AA is of the most idiotic ways to do anti-aliasing, but it's the easiest one

lyric hatch
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We have good Temporal AA it's called DLSS and FSR

ashen spindle
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TAA suffers from its being easy to have a bad version of it that is more distracting than a bad MSAA or anything like that

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TAA is not inherently bad even though it sometimes appears that way

umbral heron
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MSAA was great, but now we render games in 720p anyway hanaSit

lyric hatch
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MSAA is also very expensive on top of not fixing shimmering and shader anti-aliasing

umbral heron
ashen spindle
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it also is made for forward rendering and while you can make it work with deferred paths thats adding more overhads

umbral heron
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Let's go back to 2015 methods of rendering and the glorious era of cubemaps hana_Yes

ashen spindle
distant tapir
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Screen resolution: 7680 x 4320
AA: off
gigachad

umbral heron
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Enough to say that TAA in Cyberpunk was so awful I thought something is wrong with my GPU