🔌│tech

[vagrant reef]

I've got white on my GPU / Ram, didn't have a choice on those coming with RGB, it's subtle but nice

[analog sinew]

mmh

hah that radiator looks like my old places radiator

[spiral island]

Now this is a good April fools: the steam deck discord changed its icon. Spent a minute trying to clear it.

[ashen spindle]

As old as discord lol wooting used to do that for like years

[spiral island]

First time for me, haven't been in many Discords that aren't just for my buddies. Makes sense, it's effective 🙂

[vagrant reef]

That's the best one Ive seen yet

[balmy vector]

[ashen spindle]

I guess after 8 years of the same it’s gotten a bit stale haha

[marsh glade]

We actively choose not to haha

[spiral island]

Well, I'm LTTP and got got. Netizens, carry on.

[topaz schooner]

Mooting brand.

[waxen forge]

is there a way to tell wootility that my switches dont have 4mm max actuation but instead 3.4mm?

[reef patrol]

Not atm.

[vagrant reef]

If you push the keys hard enough, then you might get 4mm and then won't have an issue. No guarantee the key will work after.

[unkempt lake]

mouting

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/1IGIKZMFgJs

[reef patrol]

You already posted this once.

And this has always been possible in Rufus and such, so this is entirely superfluous 😄

[umbral heron]

https://eu-os.gitlab.io/

[vagrant reef]

Wait, they're removing bypassnro?

If so that acutally makes my job a headache.

[wheat plume]

there is a new command now

[reef patrol]

Just prep your ISOs

[umbral heron]

"New"
Ventoy is using that for ages

[wheat plume]

the localonly one?

[vagrant reef]

unfortunately it wont affect me, I test pc's and reformat them as part of my job, most have 11 pre-installed

they remove bypassnro it gives me a headache

[wheat plume]

reimaging is not really affected if you have a Network Boot server with ISOs already prepared

[wheat plume]

use the new command, its better than nro actually xd

[vagrant reef]

ok, as long as I can still bypass it, I haven't seen anything about this tbh

[umbral heron]

As an option with creating only local user, yes
As an option to bypass NRO it's using registry

[wheat plume]

start ms-cxh:localonly

[vagrant reef]

appreciated, I'll make a note

[wheat plume]

E n h a N C e S e c U R I t Y

[vagrant reef]

I might reach out to my company and get them propose a change to our internal doc's cause knowing them they haven't kept an eye on this either

[wheat plume]

nah should be fine xd they wont be updating to whatever build this will be once on Stable for another like 2 years xd

my friends workplace still uses Windows 10 and they are not a very small company

[vagrant reef]

oohhh ok, I thought MS just dropped this out of nowhere

[wheat plume]

out of nowhere yes, but not on Stable yet

its on the Insider Builds RN

[vagrant reef]

yeah no worries, shouldn't affect anything we do yet then

[wheat plume]

that new command is better though

iirc it skips the need to reboot

[brazen sentinel]

Hi. Sorry to interrupt your nice convo
So my m.2 died and my pc wouldn’t boot.
Got another one with windows 10 on it and put it in and it still wont boot.
But now instead of the red “Ram” light on the mobo it’s the red “VGA” light that’s on. Also there’s a red light above whichever dim slots the ram sticks are slotted into.
How do I fix my pc?
Can anyone help?

[wheat plume]

RAM issue??

[vagrant reef]

VGA points to a GPU issue

[brazen sentinel]

Im not the most tech-knowledgeable person so I dont know if its exactly a ram issue but it wasn’t doing that before when it first wasn’t booting

I alr reseat both and im scared to touch my cpu and destroy the pc

Yes dp cable connected

Yep

[vagrant reef]

Shouldn't need to touch the CPU at all.

Low chance it's caused the issues

[analog sinew]

got a different pc to test components individually? like the gpu?

[vagrant reef]

Might need to give the PC a sec to memory train if you're on AMD

[brazen sentinel]

Uh no ive only got one pc sadly

Ive got ddr4

[wheat plume]

Wonder when Microsoft are also gonna remove that Registry Key that the bypassNRO script edited

you can do what the script did manually and it still works but yeah....Microsoft might remove that key too later

Wonder when they will remove the shortcut to open CMD during OOBE....

[vagrant reef]

That'll be the day

[wheat plume]

that nothing happens

cause 99% of people will happily login to the account when prompted

[vagrant reef]

Hopefully I wont be where I'm working now for it to matter when the time comes.

I'm guessing they're starting to take steps to control customers locking down the kernel.

And hopefully that allows more support for gmaes on linux and I can jump ship 24/7

[wheat plume]

i just hate that the fucking pathetic losers who spoofed their games to thinking they were on Linux just to get the Linux version of the anticheat that is not kernel level, have made it so that actual Linux players cant play the fucking game because the game devs banned Linux and not the people spoofing the game

[crisp granite]

you seem angry at people cheating with the resources given

[vagrant reef]

It's a whole thing, cheaters will go through every hoop

[wheat plume]

these people cheat by taking advantage of an already hated and small group of gamers by pretneding to use the OS to get the morehackable version of the AC

[crisp granite]

banning linux certainly prevents people from using that OS to have an easier anticheat to work with

[crisp granite]

hated and small
I mean
I don't see how linux gamers are hated
but no doubt they're small, and as such game support is minimal at best

[wheat plume]

anyone who actually uses Linux as their daily OS everyday is not going to cheat
and most cheaters are not gonna swap to Linux where NONE of their cheating software works

[vagrant reef]

It honestly doesn't prevent much either.

Most cheaters still only use windows and most cheats are still undetected by anti cheat.

Constant cat n mouse

[crisp granite]

in that case, Linux use opened a more serious threat, being not kernel level anticheat

which to me seems a mistake
anticheat should be as stringent on any platform given

[wheat plume]

Microsoft also want to prevent kernel level access in Windows now

[crisp granite]

perfect

[vagrant reef]

Yeah, hopefully that'll have an effect

[crisp granite]

saves idiots from installing a program granting it by mistake

[umbral heron]

Be happy
Play games without anticheat

[vagrant reef]

I know some cheats are using a 2nd PC now, it's getting out of hand

[balmy vector]

be happy, play game that make you happy

[vagrant reef]

I wonder if it'll reach a point of game dev employees dropping payloads on game servers to allow it.

Where there's a will, there's a way

[crisp granite]

don't tell Rosie to be happy, or play games without anticheat
that's not how it works
Linux gamers are an oppressed class, even worse than people of colour
DEI practices need to come in to rectify the situation, and then overcorrect
/s

[vagrant reef]

I would love to but CS has a chokehold

[unkempt lake]

Pfft

You are very naive

[umbral heron]

CS works on penguin
Some anticheats do work

[vagrant reef]

CS does work on penguin.

But cheaters also work on CS.

There's some games I play that don't work on penguin too.

[wheat plume]

I play games that have anticheat enabled for Proton

[unkempt lake]

Also if you're unhappy @wheat plume just dualboot

[indigo granite]

Yo

[vagrant reef]

Also for CS, one of the only ways to play without cheaters is to use Faceit (even though there's some on there too)

Which doesn't support linux.

I'm forced to this life, I didn't choose it 😭

[umbral heron]

Faceit?
Without cheaters?

[wheat plume]

Dual Booting is a fucking headache

[umbral heron]

[wheat plume]

Every major Windows update breaks the damn GRUB bootloader .-.

[vagrant reef]

Trust me, compared to premier, I'd rather got a couple of games without them than having to go every game.

[wheat plume]

and makes Linu unbootable

[umbral heron]

Every other account there is lv 10 with 83% WR

[unkempt lake]

It's not

[wheat plume]

it really is

[unkempt lake]

Literally

[wheat plume]

I did it until 2 years ago and gave up

[unkempt lake]

Not a problem anymore

[wheat plume]

thats fine when it works

but Windows updates will break it eventually

[unkempt lake]

I'm smart enough to deal with linux but too dumb to dual boot

[vagrant reef]

Bro it's 2025 we shouldn't have to dual boot 😭

[wheat plume]

^

[unkempt lake]

Part of running linux, tough shit

[vagrant reef]

Nope

[unkempt lake]

Well don't complain about games not working

[umbral heron]

We should have normal anticheats and not ones which hammer Windows' kernel

[unkempt lake]

There's a fix it's easy

[crisp granite]

using an OS with minimal userbase results in minimal support
mac gaming is in a worse state than linux gaming for that reason
cry about it

[unkempt lake]

Literally the fact that they don't know this shows me they haven't bothered in ages

Or don't know wtf they're talking about

Just looking for reasons not to dual boot because omg it takes a little effort to setup

It's part of using an os with a small userbase

You adapt or you whine in a corner

2 choices

[umbral heron]

No, thank you

[crisp granite]

I appreciate the offer
I will sob uncontrollably in the corner
-Linux user, <current_year>

[unkempt lake]

Exactly minimal fucking effort

[vagrant reef]

All the partitions bro, dual booting aint worth it.

Was fine in 2010

[unkempt lake]

partitons spooky lmao

Literally i dual boot too

It's not hard

[vagrant reef]

nvidia drivers as well.

Pain.

[unkempt lake]

You bought an nvidia card

[vagrant reef]

Yep

[unkempt lake]

You're to blame for your choices again

[vagrant reef]

Not nvidia for lackluster linux support?

🤷

[unkempt lake]

You bought their product knowing how it works, if you didn't do research that's on you

[pale sigil]

Effort

[vagrant reef]

I know what I was getting into

[pale sigil]

Every time I went to I just ended up sticking with windows lol

[vagrant reef]

Nvidia beats AMD. I don't hate the player, I just hate the game.

[pale sigil]

What

[unkempt lake]

what lol

[wild coyote]

f

another one

[unkempt lake]

Clearly not when it comes to linux

You whine about it yet still buy it

You're to blame if anything lol

[vagrant reef]

100%, I have a steam deck, thing is amazing.

more companies should be like AMD when it comes to linux.

[unkempt lake]

Well why do you buy nvidia then

If you can't use it to its full potential

You love linux so much yet you don't support the gpu company who gives you proper support

Then whine about shit not supporting linux

Logic 100

[vagrant reef]

I'm not on linux

Reason why I'm not is cause of lackluster support from nvidia

[wild coyote]

Nvidia is the most powerful, but their recent drivers shows it ain't good as much as before B)

[vagrant reef]

I got a free 4070 Ti Super from work, not my fault nvidia don't support linux 🤷

[wild coyote]

They do, just not as good as AMD

[vagrant reef]

I know they do guys

But it's lackluster compared to AMD

What I mean is as a company.

They'd rather everyone be on windows than be on linux.

[wild coyote]

They don't care about Linux

[vagrant reef]

Exactly

[wild coyote]

Reason? They don't exactly care about gamers. They make money through their workstation gpus

🤷

[gusty kiln]

Why make 5090s when you can make rtx 6000

That thing is like 8 grand

For the same die

[vagrant reef]

Why sell to consumers when AI companies will pay more

[wild coyote]

I'll pick AMD overall, as they support ideally Windows and Linux, stable too.

[umbral heron]

When in gold rush sell shovels
Nvidia knows it well
And tries to perpetuate that as long as it can
Before every multi-billion corporation will discover that AI is useless

[vagrant reef]

Has no place in gaming.

There will be a crash similar to the gaming industry in the 80s

The technology will stagnate, oversaturation of low quality content.

We're starting to see tell-tale signs of it already unfortunately.

[leaden kiln]

except for arc alchemist desktop cards which had lackluster support as i understood it
returned mine when i found out, wouldve been an arc user today otherwise 👴

[vagrant reef]

Intel had potential but with how their CPU's are going these days.... doesn't bode well for their future.

[leaden kiln]

one driver which supports hwenc in i915 and xe for good support in everything else

yeah it's good that they improved drivers for this gen but still sucked for the early adopters, which i almost was one

[gusty kiln]

You can't even buy b580 at the msrp either

They had a good chance, but now no one would even look twice at those cards now

[vagrant reef]

I'm not surprised they had teething issues, hopefully they pull their finger out and actually drop some fire next gen.

[gusty kiln]

All listings I've seen are like 300+, supposed to be 249

[ashen spindle]

stock varies greatly on region

[gusty kiln]

5060/9060 will make it irrelevant anyway so meh

[ashen spindle]

b580 does sell quite well in the us at msrp

[unkempt lake]

Same here they're super easy to find

[vagrant reef]

in stock in the UK as well on various sites.

[tawdry arrow]

And i thought it was the because i debloated it. Had dual boot. 2 windows 10 nvmes. 1 clean debloated, 1 dirty. Clean one broke in the update completely.

[vagrant reef]

Windows just don't wanna let you go

[tawdry arrow]

I don't. What is GPT?

[halcyon moss]

I haven't had windows kill my partion table in quite a few years

[umbral heron]

3 years ago
Best thing I ever did

[vagrant reef]

Wish game pass was supported on linux, the convenience of it is nice.

[umbral heron]

For first 3 weeks or so, until you play all the interesting games and suddenly there's nothing to play

[vagrant reef]

very true tbh. But the day 1 drops they've been coming out with recently has been great.

[umbral heron]

For me the only thing that was stopping me was that Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon was only on Microsoft Store
But they are on Steam now

Yeah

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

Just not the one from Microsoft Store

[vagrant reef]

Frustrates me how they be locking me into the xbox app like that.

Steam Pass when?

[halcyon moss]

3 weeks? Theres a fuck ton of good games on there

[umbral heron]

Summer/Winter Sale, get like 50€ and you'll have a ton of good games

[vagrant reef]

Never the autumn / spring

[fringe tree]

b-but i love the gold 😭😭😭

[umbral heron]

Or buy Factorio for 32€ and have fun for thousands of hours

[steady sail]

true i wanted to switch to bazzite

[vagrant reef]

There's better options than Bazzite imo

[steady sail]

i just game on my pc so i dont mind xd

[vagrant reef]

I've got enough on my plate with Minecraft modpacks

[umbral heron]

Arch, obviously

[steady sail]

leave my smol and stupid brain alone

[vagrant reef]

And if you want some hand holding, Endeavour was decent like 10 years ago, dunno if it's still good now.

[umbral heron]

Is good

[fringe tree]

i got a switch tester and im trying to find out which i like more between the outemu blue,teal or gold and they feel and sound the exact same to me😭

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

I have way more of them now
And also other things

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

About 2 months ago

[steady sail]

when Maidlock ?

[halcyon moss]

I wish popos released their 24.04 release already 😦

[umbral heron]

When I'll be bothered to shave my legs again

k bye

[steady sail]

uhm, thats an information that i didnt wanted to read or see

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101

[umbral heron]

You know what a hassle this is?

[balmy vector]

good ol thigh sock collection

[pale sigil]

Ah, I see you're a programmer.

[umbral heron]

Sysadmin

[steady sail]

and from the number of monitors

but that parkside battery is based

[umbral heron]

That's soldering station

[steady sail]

yeah that was my second guess

but either way its based

[analog sinew]

how is cals even real

its so blessed

[fringe tree]

u dont like clicky keyboards?

the teal sounds so good omg (space bar

[astral haven]

Anything click jacket is an affront to humanity

[fringe tree]

the thing with no box around it?

whats wrong with that?

[vagrant reef]

I went to clicky and back, it's like RGB, cool for 10 mins then horrific.

[fringe tree]

well i love rgb so :3

[astral haven]

Click bar, leaf spring, anything else is fine

[vagrant reef]

When you're coding at 2am and your SO is shouting at you cause she can hear you from the bedroom, you realise it's a problem

[astral haven]

Click jacket rattles and has an inherently higher tone

Heck I'd prefer haptic feedback iPhone style than click jacket

Absolute comedy
https://chipsandcheese.com/p/inside-nvidias-geforce-6000-series

[unkempt lake]

Reinstall it?

[marsh pewter]

linux moment

is hardware acceleration on?

[unkempt lake]

You sure it didn't leave some files behind when you uninstalled it?

[umbral heron]

LC_ALL=C firefox works?

[unkempt lake]

Until brave crashes

[fringe tree]

discord light mode and shoes indoors???

unbelievable

[umbral heron]

Photos of high heels cost extra

[marsh pewter]

i’m an arch linux user that wants to get into programming, is this gonna happen to me? 😰

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/yamada-kun-to-lv999-no-koi-wo-suru-my-love-story-with-yamada-kun-at-lv999-akane-smirk-akane-yamada-kun-to-lv999-no-koi-wo-suru-lv999-anime-gif-9292004019520058892

[marsh pewter]

I’ll be the exception 🥸

nonono

you don’t understand

[steady sail]

soo thats how u became a frog

[marsh pewter]

I still play val

I’ll be alright

[umbral heron]

Oh no
It's the uwu variety

[marsh pewter]

if I can survive ultrakill I can survive this 🙏

the woke linux agenda will not pierce my alpha mind ||/j||

[steady sail]

and we lost him

okay soo is there a way to use linux but skip the change

[vagrant reef]

I feel I'm the opposite.

[unkempt lake]

sup

will do

[marsh pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-gif-3746287728568117387

[unkempt lake]

Fun fact

Nico was normal

Then he met me

(:

[steady sail]

im just gonna turn into a frog

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[marsh pewter]

I enjoy an x3 here and there but I do it for the love of the game

[steady sail]

the bwaaa frog

[unkempt lake]

It's just the start

But yeah this is what happens if you date a pokemon obsessed artsy girl who likes tech

you become a furry

it starts slow and then your brain belongs to me :)

[marsh pewter]

erm nuh uh

[unkempt lake]

yes

It will happen

[marsh pewter]

no

it won’t

I’ll bet 5 it won’t

[stray pelican]

Has anyone here removed the switch plate on a two he? Is it safe to remove with the screws and then screw back in?

[minor citrus]

the way this tech discussion evolved is fascinating

[stray pelican]

I got a two he a couple days ago and the case/plate is a lil bent on one side as though there is something underneath

Thinking about unscrewing it and taking a look

[marsh pewter]

intriguing, even

[unkempt lake]

Moumou said it will, she bets 5 temptations treats

[steady sail]

i bet 1 frog

[marsh pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[unkempt lake]

A moufrogtoy?

https://a.co/d/1p34XgB

[marsh pewter]

no wye moumou can type???

[marsh pewter]

that would be mean cals

[unkempt lake]

Live reaction rn

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[marsh pewter]

how do I know this isn’t moumou speaking right now…

[unkempt lake]

Hold on let me put her on the keyboard

///////////////+++++++++++0000000000000000/

[reef patrol]

Codephrase acknowledged, initiating operatin MEOW

[unkempt lake]

Sleeper agent Mousen activated

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-warframe-orange-creamsicle-albretch-entrati-gif-17447654494807688329

[fringe tree]

whats the best outemu switch for rhythm games ?

[vagrant reef]

The one you perform best with :^)

[fringe tree]

can u send me other keyboard servers then

cus i cant find any other than just company ser vers

thxx

[bright briar]

tech

[vapid ruin]

tek

[marsh pewter]

tak

[trim crane]

Outemu makes magnetic switches

[unkempt lake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/s/zwKeetoEOe

I wonder how many failures we had reported for 13/14gen w degradation

Haven't been able to find numbers on it, people didn't really track it

[ashen spindle]

because it was too many to keep track

[unkempt lake]

Would also be nice knowing how much of an actual market share asrock holds

[vagrant reef]

It was monumental. I know at least 2 people irl that had issues

[unkempt lake]

I'm pretty sure it's just some error in manufacturing tho

For the 9000x3d chips

And not a mobo issue

[ashen spindle]

server hosts had literal batches of 14900k that just got replaced multiple times before the fix was found

[unkempt lake]

Do we have numbers on the asus x3d expo thing

For 7000 series

[frank flame]

question, can you setup last input proirity for all keys? i dont really playh fps games but it could be veryk useful for the mmo i play. from what i can tell it only works wit 2keys that are selected

[lyric hatch]

Not possible, just between two keys

[frank flame]

rippp would be tight for mmo. also dont think it would be that broken. atleast for the game i play. its already been doing down the rabbit hole with add on and things to make life better. still non the less the 2 main keys is nice to have.

[covert ravine]

Which mmo

I'm tryna get good game rec

[frank flame]

osrs. a very old game l0l. but yea whats game rec?

what ever reason i thought you wanted a game recording l0l mb yea probs not one id recommend unless you got a min of 3000 hours to blow

[lyric hatch]

Fellow RuneScape enjoyer

[frank flame]

ooo awesome, you haavent had any issue with the keyboard and jagex?

tbh its not like game changing or anything. so i dont think it sound be a problem

[lyric hatch]

Na, as long as you have 1 to 1 your key binds you'll be fine - would be careful with DKS

[frank flame]

yea fair. not toughing that for osrs

would you consider taking your finger off a key a 1 tho

[lyric hatch]

I think Jagex would see that as two binds in 1 action but maybe a better question for them

[frank flame]

yea i mean i dont think it would be bannable. just that there bot decection thingy might see it as that as i have no idea how that works

[gusty kiln]

the most you can prob get away with is scroll wheel m1

but that might look like an auto clicker

[gusty kiln]

I got 99 farming recently

[frank flame]

gzgz!

[gusty kiln]

pet too 😛

[frank flame]

mann you got the pet too

65m xp and 99 on 3 other acc and no pet

i really want him

[gusty kiln]

I got mine with a mahogany tree

[frank flame]

thatss awesome

been on such the pet dry streak. otheer than spooning one in the last year i havent seen nothing in 2 years

[gusty kiln]

but yeah I tried to figure out ways to use wooting for osrs, but nothing really

[frank flame]

dry at sire cox tob farming duke n probs more l0l

[gusty kiln]

pets are just pure luck

I've only ever gotten 2 pets and in different games lol

[frank flame]

ooh ik and rng can be fickle

[gusty kiln]

slayer pet in rs3 and farming pet in osrs

[frank flame]

buddy and i started hunting dt2 pets at the same time. im still at duke and hes finished l0l

[gusty kiln]

oof

[frank flame]

not for a lack of trying, think my duke kc is higher than his combine

dt2 bosses that is]

[gusty kiln]

I need to get my QPC at some point, but losing motivation to play atm

[frank flame]

yea me to l0l. lost it and havent gotten it bak in months

i oly do em if it effects what im doing i guess

not lookin forward to sailing either.

[gusty kiln]

I might start back up once that comes out

new race to max

gunna be fun to watch

[frank flame]

im maxed already so im not looking forward to doing it again. especially when the skill was a MEME to start with

[gusty kiln]

haha yeah

I'm not maxed on any account

[frank flame]

im sure it wont be bad but might not be good either

[gusty kiln]

prob will take anther few years of on and off playing

[frank flame]

haha fair. yea even still if you dont enjoy it dont do it. unless you can trick your self into enjoying it, that works. but if not its worse than a job and its a game at the end of the day.

[gusty kiln]

yeah

[frank flame]

its amazing how much your perspective can change things. you dont like this your not gonna enjoy it, but if you find something in there you do like well it makes a world of differance

[gusty kiln]

yeah, mostly nowadays osrs is the afk game, lots of shooting stars and woodcutting in the background while playing other games

you going for zuk helm with all that pvm?

[pale sigil]

Wtf, Google is Pog.

This is regarding my pixel 7a swollen battery haha

[peak plover]

I'm interested in going to pick up a new monitor tomorrow, my old one's backlight started to shit the bed.
Here's what I'm currently leaning towards buying, nothing too crazy: https://www.microcenter.com/product/687308/acer-nitro-vg270u-z1bmiipx-27-2k-wqhd-(2560-x-1440)-270hz-gaming-monitor

If anyone has a better recommendation with similar/better specs for around this price range and thinks it would be a wise choice to consider, i would appreciate and love to hear any recos

(2 of my other monitors are acer so, would love another acer just to keep the theme but if its worth it to consider, i wouldn't be entirely opposed to another brand's product.)

[sudden imp]

That’s great! Didn’t know the 7a was still under warranty.

[pale sigil]

Runs out at the end of this month

[abstract steeple]

a

[tawdry arrow]

What do you guys think about WD specialist PTFE dry lube for "restoring" mouse feet?? any1 knowledgeable about plastics and silicone lubricants?
How crazy is the idea?

[topaz schooner]

A new battery costs that much?

[nimble arch]

https://youtu.be/O5wodk1BxYM

I want

[distant tapir]

45 inch instead of 34 😔

[nimble arch]

There’s a 39” and 34” version of this panel coming, apparently.

[distant tapir]

Oh really? That is exciting

[nimble arch]

Although an 800R curve at those sizes is just dumb

[distant tapir]

Ridiculous marketing

[lyric hatch]

Monitors and motherboards undefeated in terrible marketing

[fair gull]

military grade components

read: the cheapest stuff that works

[umbral heron]

I love that marketing
MILITARY GRADE ENCRYPTION
lifts mask SHA-256

[rain quiver]

Does anyone know the performance % difference between a 9070xt vs 5080 at 4k is?

[reef patrol]

Every review out there would? 😄

[rain quiver]

Yeah im lazy its faster to ask and hope someone knows the number

[reef patrol]

You can literally just skip ahead and look at charts 😛

[umbral heron]

About 15~20%

vs XTX that's ~5%

[rain quiver]

Damn something not adding up

Does nvidia just run alot better on gta v than amd

But bet thanks

[coral girder]

They can be the same if u optimise the 9070 xt with undervolt and oc

[devout raptor]

https://youtu.be/-qbylbEek-M?si=13gTmqbHJZ41cwEG

listens to this for 7 minutes before i realized it wasnt an intro

[rain quiver]

Nah what oc is giving it 20% lmao

[halcyon moss]

i got a logitech mx master 3s, whats a good tool to configure this in linux?
ive tried piper and solaar

[raw zephyr]

i think those are your only options, do they not work?

[halcyon moss]

i want to use the dongle, not bluetooth

[steady sail]

[raw zephyr]

ah, does it not save on the onboard memory and then use the dongle?

[halcyon moss]

i have no way to connect to the dongle. there is 1 button at the bottom.
online it says, use the windows software

or https://logiwebconnect.com/
which does not work in firefox or chromium

[raw zephyr]

hmm i only ever used solaar and piper on linux and had no issues 🤷‍♂️ but not with the mx master 3s

apparently it only works with "bolt dongle" and not with the "unifying" dongle, whatever that means

[umbral heron]

Bolt is their "unifying 2.0", uses BTLE instead of their 2.4G protocol, encrypts connection, has quite a longer distance, and they made kernel drivers for Linux for Bolt

[halcyon moss]

hm, so my laptop should also do BTLE

[unkempt lake]

The bolt receiver is odd... it somehow manages to install the software directly from the receiver

On my mx master

[umbral heron]

Wouldn't surprise me if they stuck a small flash chip in there

[halcyon moss]

piper doesnt see the mouse at all
solaar at least sees it

[unkempt lake]

Yeah it really surprised me the first time

I was like holdup how the fuck i didn't install this

Then it happenned on my work laptop too xD

[umbral heron]

piper is installed with librat

[halcyon moss]

yeah.. and how do i install that lol.
trying piper from flatpak now

well there is no ratbagd flatpak

[crimson wigeon]

Because flatpak is for apps, not libraries

[halcyon moss]

yes so the piper flatpak doesnt include ratbagd it seems

fun times for every one :p

[crimson wigeon]

Yes you would have to install that with your systems package manager

[halcyon moss]

yeah unfortunately im running pop os and thats on ubuntu 22.04

[coral girder]

Not oc

Undervolt

[crimson wigeon]

LTS strikes again

[umbral heron]

Wait, piper must include ratbagd, it's a frontend for it
Maybe flatpak permissions, with not being able to access USB devices
Maybe apt version works?

[cursive summit]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/faulty-chip-surface-ex-works-on-a-radeon-rx-9070xt-extreme-hotspot-temperatures-and-research-into-the-causes-of-pitting/

[umbral heron]

Try with add-apt-repository "deb http://apt.pop-os.org/ubuntu $(lsb_release -cs) main multiverse restricted universe"
sudo apt-get install piper

[halcyon moss]

ill try that later, now.. work

[devout raptor]

maybe its time for a glasspad

[umbral heron]

Because of generic anime girl?

[raw zephyr]

i dont like these designs, they all look very generic anime

at least the black one only has one cringy wallhack branding 😅

[vapid ruin]

And the plain white one!

But yeah, standard black is soo nice

[sudden citrus]

I'd love a glass mousepad but bc of how low my sens in game is I'd need it to cover my entire desk 💀

[leaden kiln]

only 999
selling out in seconds

[devout raptor]

their art style is trash

[vapid ruin]

https://www.pulsar.gg/products/superglide-mousepad?variant=44194566799614 XXL, almost 1m in length

[devout raptor]

seconds? you sure

then im not interested

the wgat

cant find

[umbral heron]

Take a piece of glass
Print anime girl
Stick it on the other side
Done

[raw zephyr]

skypad should make a true stealth version of the wallhack 4

[leaden kiln]

maybe single digit minutes if you're lucky

[raw zephyr]

no branding, nothing

[devout raptor]

oh this one is pretty nice but isnt wallhack slightly cheaper?

[leaden kiln]

119 for b&w and 129 for le

usd

miku best pad though fr

[vapid ruin]

eh, not too much.

[raw zephyr]

you can get a skypad 3.0 on amazon during sale for as low as 50€

it just has worse base when compared to the 4.0

[leaden kiln]

3.0s are a great deal but they wanted anime design

[devout raptor]

actually i dont

[devout raptor]

miku pad?? where

[leaden kiln]

I don't think they sell it anymore
and it was jp exclusive sadly

[steady sail]

I might gonna get the next limited glass pad

[leaden kiln]

good luck

since there's so few

[jaunty rose]

I love my artisan hayate otsu v2, dont think I could ever get into glass pads lol
But they look really cool

[leaden kiln]

I was thinking of buying an artisan when I go to Japan later this year

[jaunty rose]

That’d definitely be a good Idea cause I 100% overpayed for mine lmaooo

Was like $100 after shipping and taxes

The XL model was unavailable at the time so I went with XXL instead in Extra Soft

About roughly 20”x20” in size

[leaden kiln]

😭

[jaunty rose]

Im happy with it, just wouldn’t recommend it for it’s price unless you’re a baller

[devout raptor]

23rd of april

[devout raptor]

💀

[leaden kiln]

worth for miku

[devout raptor]

skypad sora is one of the coolest

[compact relic]

anime tax

[devout raptor]

clearly

[leaden kiln]

i like water yume design

[devout raptor]

this is the worst one

as anything that aimlab touches

[devout raptor]

yeah its really cool too

faith yume is probably my favorite

[pale sigil]

No

[topaz schooner]

Then why are you getting that much? 😮

I mean, that's lucky But I'm confused because that's not the full price of the phone probably either, so I'm confused about what their exact warranty policy here is.

[pale sigil]

No idea but I'm not complaining

[topaz schooner]

Haha, I would not either.

[pale sigil]

It's probably because it can't be shipped for repair

[topaz schooner]

I mean, with that refund, you can probably pay a phone repair company near you to replace the battery and treat yourself to a nice dinner afterwards, right? 😄

[keen steppe]

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D is a cop or nah?

Cuz the new one is like £60 more expensive

[vagrant reef]

The current performance difference between the 2 is negligible

Save the £60

[ashen spindle]

Depends on the game

In some it doesn’t to much in others you get like 20% more

[vagrant reef]

There is power saving costs, but again, negligible

Imo get the 7800 and save the £60 for a newer gen down the line tbh

Where there's more of a leap

[ashen spindle]

I mean might as well get it now if you go for the best

[vagrant reef]

Really depends on what the £60 goes towards instead of the CPU. I'd recommend 6000mhz for the ddr5, if the £60 makes the difference then it's worth it

[ashen spindle]

You can get 16gb at 6000 for less

And 5200 or whatever instead of 6000 is a minuscule change compared to having a 9800x3d instead

[vagrant reef]

32GB at 6k would be my recommendation

And it's not, the memory on AMD is quite volatile, any more or less than 6000 and you're hurting performance

[ashen spindle]

No it really doesn’t because the extra cache absorbs most of those latency hits from going out to memory

[vagrant reef]

If you say so 🫡

[ashen spindle]

People have done extensive tests all the way from 5200 to 7800 times on 7950x3d and it doesn’t change as much as you would get from getting the better chip especially if you only enable expo

5200 to 6000 expo is like 14% in spec aka synthetic loads

[vagrant reef]

Not gonna argue over ram speeds, but from someone who works in the pc gaming and hardware industry, I'd recommend the cost saving of the 7800, with 32gb @ 6000mhz for an overall stable system. The 9800 has a lower tdp and overclocking unlocked,but if you're overclocking then it ramps up anyway.

The overall performance difference between the 2 on multiple titles across the board isn't a huge leap.

The 9k gen was a more "efficiency" focused launch rather than a jump in computation.

One of the side effects of it, is higher FPS in some titles.

If you wanna overclock, by all means, go 9800

[reef patrol]

No one overclocks. We underclock.

[vagrant reef]

Same.

With the price of electricity in the UK, I gotta save my pennies

[ashen spindle]

If you start going for stable you definitely want to go 5200 jedec ram and not oc it to 6000 lol

[vagrant reef]

Again AMD is volatile with ram and they themselves recommend 6000

[ashen spindle]

Zen5 also wasn’t a efficiency focused launch and the cou has massive changes that just don’t change much for gaming because pc gamers are not the primary market

If you do anything avx or front end heavy the cores shred threw that like paper in comparisons to older cpus

[vagrant reef]

And if you're buying an X3D then you're likely not doing those and instead gaming

[ashen spindle]

And amd saying 6000 is the sweetspot doesn’t mean it’s always stable because it’s oc’d and outside of their own guarantee of what will run

[ashen spindle]

Sure but then don’t make an argument that’s not relevant or accurate xD

[vagrant reef]

Again I'm not arguing

I just have a lot of experience with the hardware and giving a recommendation

[ashen spindle]

But you are making an argument for why he should save the money and get a 7800x3d?

If you don’t like the word I’ll say don’t state incorrect facts then xD idk I don’t see arguing as something bad just a description when two people say different things

[vagrant reef]

Whether it's incorrect is down to the person's experience.

If they go to play a game and don't see the performance difference between the hardware then, then they'll have felt they wasted the money.

Plenty of videos online which show the performance differences

Every title is different and relying on synthetic benchmarks isn't always reliable.

[ashen spindle]

But that’s not what you said? You said the generation was a launch focused on efficiency over computartion?

[vagrant reef]

The TDP differences between the chips with minor differences in gaming performance shows that.

[ashen spindle]

Not to mention the powerdraw in reality is often higher on the 9800x3d because it’s not thermally limited

No it just shows that the changes made in the cpu are not having a big boost in gaming scenarios

But that’s not what the cores were primarily made for anyway

[magic minnow]

@modern sphinx peak!!!!

[vagrant reef]

I think you're reading too deep into it dude, I doubt he's running synthetic benchmarks

[ashen spindle]

I didn’t say that either?

[vagrant reef]

Either way, save the money imo, get a 2nd nvme or 32gb 6k CL30 ram

[ashen spindle]

But you are just mixing statements that don’t make sense, the 9800x3d is the one that uses power but would also be the more stable one if stability is your concern if you run that with 5200 instead of overlocked ram at 6000

You can make points for either option but you are mixing them up quite a bit

[vagrant reef]

I think you're getting confused.

AMD themselves have recommended 6K CL30 for rock solid stability. The CPU memory clock is then in sync with the ram.

Ram overclocking through expo and CPU overclocking aren't the same

The ram is pre tested out the factory to support the speed.

[ashen spindle]

amd have said 6000 is the sweetspot for performance, jedec memeory speed and the highest support spec that is guaranteed to work is 5600 though

[vagrant reef]

Again, just from someone who has experience putting pc builds together, this is my recommendation

[ashen spindle]

Im not talking about cpu overclocking at any point

the ram being able to do 6000xmp does not guaranteed the cpu can or that it will be stable in every single case since its not jedec conforming

the memory/infinity fabric clock sync is also happenign at lower speeds, 6000 is the sweetspot because on most cpus you will then need to go to a worse ration to keep it stable

[vagrant reef]

So we agree 6000 is the sweet spot, yeah?

[ashen spindle]

sweet spot for performance not for stability

these are the 9800x3d rated numbers

most cpus these days even do 6200 or 6400 just fine but thats outside of spec and thus not the sweetspot for stability

[pale sigil]

Andddd I hate HyperOS again

They still haven't fixed the refresh rate issues with apps running at60hz despite having a higher refresh rate selected

[vagrant reef]

Android flavours are the worst, I wish companies had a standard to conform to 💀

[pale sigil]

I swear if this is still the only fix it's getting returned

[vagrant reef]

Awe so many companies do it to try and extend battery life

It's shocking

[leaden kiln]

I still can't tell any difference 👴

[vagrant reef]

In refresh rate?

[leaden kiln]

yeah

[vagrant reef]

My girlfriend said the same for the longest time.

It was only recently when playing MH: Wilds on a 120hz monitor and getting only 50-60 FPS that she thought "why is this so laggy" and then it clicked

I run a 240hz monitor and can tell the difference instantly, it's only when you're used to seeing the high refresh rate, that you notice when it's lower I think

[astral haven]

I have a friend that when he got his 120hz he couldnt tell the difference when we switched it on him
now he can easily

[leaden kiln]

I turned my vr headsets refresh rate down too after a few weeks

[devout raptor]

excuse me?

its a RAFFLE?

fuck this capitalist bullshit and artificial scarcity

[leaden kiln]

I do wanna get a new monitor at some point though so maybe I will be able to after that
my friend was shocked when we were at an internet cafe and I couldn't tell that the monitor was 144hz

[leaden kiln]

for 5 pads total

[devout raptor]

Im quitting consuming bro

[leaden kiln]

out of 999

[devout raptor]

i dont understand the point

[leaden kiln]

just get first place if u gotta have one

[devout raptor]

yeah just

I dont want it anymore

[gusty kiln]

At least you'll be able to see the picture quality improvement

[devout raptor]

I hate companies that do this bullshit

[gusty kiln]

Want mini led for a while but waiting for micro led

[devout raptor]

how hard is it to make stuff available

[leaden kiln]

1080p60hz tn panel from 2016 👴
surely no difference

[vagrant reef]

Testufo shows the stark differences in refresh rate

Does hurt my eyes staring at the wee green guy tho

[leaden kiln]

I couldn't even tell in vr so maybe I'm just built different

[vagrant reef]

VR makes me ill after a while, I don't know how people do it.

[gusty kiln]

Maybe one you get an oled and that tn side by side

[leaden kiln]

I would probably get an oled when I do buy a new monitor, not looking to do it right now though

[leaden kiln]

it gets better with time, I felt a little bit sick first few times moving around a lot, and the first time I had like 40fps

now getting 37.5fps in vrc isn't too noticable though

[astral haven]

also the newer headsets are better

although some are not great

index and q3 are solidly under half a MS of blur, where all the microoled headsets are still over 1ms (vision pro and bsb for example)

[leaden kiln]

yeah I can tell theres a lot of persistence when turning up the brightness on my bsb
I only really felt a little bit sick in my og vive and in the index but those were the first ones I had

[vagrant reef]

I actually think I'd throw up if that's what I saw, icl

[leaden kiln]

from the content or from the framerate? 😂

[vagrant reef]

Both probably

[astral haven]

vive vs index should have been extremely obvious difference

[leaden kiln]

well tells you how good my difference telling is

[vagrant reef]

I think unless VR has a great technological leap in the near future, it's going to die out

[leaden kiln]

biggest difference for me was the controllers since I didn't have to use the wands anymore, and the resolute looked a little bit better
I only felt sick in those two because those were the first ones I tried, I probably got the index like a week after the vive

[marsh pewter]

deckard please save us 🙏

[vagrant reef]

Sad to see Sony completely abandon their VR headset.

Actually worked pretty well

[astral haven]

one of my friends who has some trouble playing certain flatscreen games due to nausea was able to use the index for quite a while, where every other headset they tried (vive, cv1, and q2) made them extremely sick within seconds

[astral haven]

it wasnt great when i tried it

[vagrant reef]

I've used it a few times, quite comfortable, Meta Quest 3 + S are also decent headsets.

The pass through on them works really well

[astral haven]

oh btw i dont mean psvr, i havent tried that, i mean the enterprise one

[leaden kiln]

biggest q3s hater

[unkempt lake]

Some have bad imc that can't run the speed

It's rare but happens

Can't just pretend those chips don't exist

[astral haven]

yea but have you considered asus auto volts? asus auto volts is the solution to all problems

[unkempt lake]

chips go poof

[wheat plume]

ooo Framework 12 laptop, all 4 USB C ports support charging

Unlike the Framework 13 where only one of them does

https://youtu.be/Ejl-7X74tgc

[halcyon moss]

only the amd models

oops wrong message.
but the 13 amd models only do it on the 2 rear ports.
intel on all

[devout raptor]

yeah iys so peak you cant even buy it

[wheat plume]

Oh ..... Back two
My bad

I thought it was only the back left one that had charging on AMD

[leaden kiln]

you will be able to buy it lol

people who win those are probably gonna receive their pads at the same time as people buying them

[devout raptor]

is it not a raffle for a right to purchase ?

[halcyon moss]

well on my current laptop only one does charging..

[devout raptor]

i only know raffles from sneaker drops

[leaden kiln]

that's 5 pads
not 999

[wheat plume]

You have framework???

[devout raptor]

are you sure

[leaden kiln]

and I think people who win the raffles will get one for free, not the right to buy one

[devout raptor]

why does it specify 101-1000th

[leaden kiln]

that's what it says

[devout raptor]

oh.

[leaden kiln]

one pad will be going to a random person in that range

[devout raptor]

ohh

goat varmilo?

[leaden kiln]

this pad is cute but i think its mudpad 😭

[balmy vector]

Aww

[steady sail]

thats just a fun competition

[devout raptor]

Yeah i didnt realize that

this comes with a coaster and microfiber cloth that have the artwork

[steady sail]

im still waiting for the Empress: Balanced to be in stock again or the V2 come out

[devout raptor]

why cant the make these 500x500

450 is too small

[steady sail]

they are 490x420 tho

[devout raptor]

oh true

they are decently priced too

padsmith goat?

[steady sail]

time to get the goonpad

[devout raptor]

ive seriously thought of a yukipad but they are probably dogshit

what even is yuki aim??

[leaden kiln]

that was supposedly limited edition when I bought it but now it's still in stock

[devout raptor]

they have zero precense anywhere who the fuck are they😭

[steady sail]

https://yuki.gg

[devout raptor]

some gooner gang?

[devout raptor]

so renowned that no one had heard of them before they made a mousepad with anime butt cheeks on it

[steady sail]

they had a collab with wallhack tho

[leaden kiln]

I'd heard of yuki aim many times before I got my pad from them

I know a few people who have cloth pads from yuki

[devout raptor]

once yeah

[steady sail]

i kinda wanna get their keyboard tho

[devout raptor]

the legends look off

can you name a single yuki aim member

[steady sail]

mrekk, tuuna

lifeline

[devout raptor]

what

those are osu players

what aim?

i thought they would be fps aimers

[leaden kiln]

illegal for osu players to play anything else

[devout raptor]

they rarely do

[pale sigil]

Ok so it seems discord only runs at 60hz on hyperos

It's like the main app I use lol

[halcyon moss]

how does one check?

[pale sigil]

Im display > set refresh rate

[halcyon moss]

use more words

[pale sigil]

Literally display settings and set high refresh rate

[halcyon moss]

ok, but thats not what you said

[pale sigil]

Alucord supports higher refresh rate

[marsh glade]

You know what really grinds my gears?

The last Pixel update removed the home button when using the camera while the phone is not unlocked.

Now, once I've taken a picture with the camera app and reviewed it with the photos app, I have to press the back button twice to access the login screen instead of the home button once.

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

[pale sigil]

Use gestures old man

[leaden kiln]

buttons better

or make google give me back 2 button navigation

[marsh glade]

How this for a gesture?

[leaden kiln]

🫡 very sad loss, the first feature navigation i used and my favorite

[pale sigil]

The hostility

[lyric hatch]

I finally moved to gestures, took a while for this boomer to adjust

[vagrant reef]

I recently moved to gestures as well. I'm still not completely sold

[leaden kiln]

I didn't mind gestures on ios but they've always felt a little bit off to me on android, at least the implementations I tried

I still prefer buttons

[lyric hatch]

You can customize it a lot with good lock at least on Samsung phones

[vagrant reef]

Samsung

[pale sigil]

@fair gull how's the flip been?

[leaden kiln]

2 button > 3 button > ios gestures > android gestures > ios physical button

[pale sigil]

iOS gestures are inconsistent af

[marsh glade]

This is precisely why I have no interest in switching to gestures

[lyric hatch]

The swipe up/down hold gestures to action things has been pretty sweet

[marsh glade]

If I miss the button I'm trying to press, that's on me.
If my phone wrongly inteprets my gesture, I'm going to be pissed at the phone

[dull hollow]

iOS 18.4 drains battery so fast

[pale sigil]

But you're not on ios

[marsh glade]

I have no belief that android is any better

[dull hollow]

on the 15 pro max with 95% battery heath, like 10/15 minutes of scrolling uses 6+%

[marsh glade]

No tribalism here, both Android and iOS are big ole piles of donkey doodoo

[leaden kiln]

always felt worse to me on android, pixel does it pretty well but I still preferred iOS gestures

I'm still thinking about switching back to an iphone but I'll probably just get another fold

[reef patrol]

Make way for the king.

[dull hollow]

ive always wanted to give samsung a shot but my whole family uses apple products and this was before usb-c was forced onto apple phones

[leaden kiln]

but I can also add ic cards to apple wallet

[vagrant reef]

That nokia was truely a pioneer.

[lyric hatch]

Sounds like a ic issue

[leaden kiln]

I think apple is the only company that provides that hardware worldwide but yeah it's not really even that useful to me, just kinda neat

[lyric hatch]

Crazy how advanced Japan is in some areas and in the stone age for others

[fair gull]

great

although it still feels wrong to fold a phone

[pale sigil]

Lol

[leaden kiln]

flips are pretty cool but I don't think I would want one at all, they're so much cheaper than large format folds though 😭

[lyric hatch]

The folds are weird, aspect ratio wise

[sweet robin]

hey i just got my wooting today and it isnt typing at all it shows a button is being pressed but it wont type anything any advice

[leaden kiln]

I found it really nice for what I do on my phone, the inner screen at least, the outer one is a bit taller than the average phone but I got used to it

though one annoying thing is that youtube doesn't rotate the video when I make it fullscreen, probably because the aspect ratio is closer to square than most phones
so I have to press the little button to rotate it myself

[unkempt lake]

https://www.club386.com/amazon-combats-nvidia-and-amd-gpu-scalpers-with-prime-subscriptions/

[marsh glade]

Calling marketing bullshit on that. I've only read the headline and the embed, but those suggest that Amazon is the good guy in combating scalping? No fucking way. They see an opportunity to sell more Prime subs, there's no altruism there. Good grief what a spin.

[fair gull]

ah yes because a prime sub would stop scalpers

now they cant wipe their tears about this extra step with the 400% markup they made from the scalping anymore.... they only have 400%-10bucks

oh no

[pale sigil]

This lol

[minor citrus]

their prime trial membership numbers will be going straigth through the roof 😄

[vagrant reef]

Nice, now the scalpers get free shipping.

[fickle ore]

lol there arent that many buyers

[leaden kiln]

amazon loves giving free prime trials

I think I've had 5

[fickle ore]

Free prime always when Wheel of Time new season drops 😄

[unkempt lake]

Agreed

But also it's interesting seeing more and more companies do this

[fickle ore]

that + good guy pr among gamers

[marsh glade]

Yea indeed. Thanks for reminding me to share that Nintendo strategy internally

[unkempt lake]

I like the nintendo strategy

I had a switch from day 1

subbed day 1

If i can get one easily because of that then good

The real solution is just

Make it to demand

Like take preorders well in advance and base production on that

I know i don't care about waiting a year for something as long as i get it for sure

[elfin niche]

If i already have 5700x, is it worth going to 7900x? Im hoping to see huge improvement in mhwilds and other games im streaming on discord with few tabs of videos

Already have 32gb ram and 3090

[ashen spindle]

not a lot

if you want huge improvements jump to a 9800x3d

also you cant use the same ram on those platforms

so you would need to get new ram

[fickle ore]

Nova Lake wait room

[elfin niche]

I know, i meant i will be using same capacity but ddr5

[elfin niche]

Its gonna be expensive, it wont be worth the performance increase based on rumors

[elfin niche]

Its just too expensive, its nearly $200 more

[fickle ore]

im fine with expensive if good

[elfin niche]

Yes, as long its more than 15% per generation i would consider to get one

Nova lake is also AM5? If im not wrong

[fickle ore]

No bc its intel

[ashen spindle]

nova lake is intel and we have no clue on performance

[elfin niche]

Ohhh mb

Im too locked in on amd

[fickle ore]

nothing can lock you into amd

[ashen spindle]

zen6 and nova lake are both late 26/early 27 anyway so its a while

[elfin niche]

I’m looking into ryzen just because im building sff, i cant cool off 250w cpus

Even if im getting 7900x im enabling eco mode

[ashen spindle]

I wouldnt get a 7900x, a single gen upgrade isnt going to do much

[fickle ore]

Nova lake doesnt necessarily use more power than AMD, infact iirc its on a smaller more efficient node

this whole intel uses more power is stupid and recency bias

[elfin niche]

My current 5700x maxes out in mhwild and other games struggles abit with background task

[ashen spindle]

its not recency its recent decade bias 😛

[fickle ore]

;P

[ashen spindle]

yea it will be better but not a massive gain

[elfin niche]

Im hoping it wont maxed out on 7900x with 12 cores

[fickle ore]

Well didnt AMD start winning from zen 2 power wise and when was that 2019?

of fuck thats 5 yrs

[elfin niche]

7900x and 9700x is the same price on amazon

[elfin niche]

Thats insane

[unkempt lake]

It will

The game's a mess

[fickle ore]

zen 2 is 2019 so 5-6 yrs

[elfin niche]

Also its nice to have that many cores to compile shaders, most games i play does that and im pissed

[elfin niche]

I thought it uses 8 cores at most

[vagrant reef]

I'd rather it compile them than run even worse tbh ;_;

[elfin niche]

Leaving the other 4 for browser n discord

[unkempt lake]

They don't use that much

[elfin niche]

In black myth wukong for some reason it compiles very often and its annoying

[ashen spindle]

it recompiles when you change driver or hardware

but yeah wilds is just a mess and runs bad on any hardware

or when your shader cache is full from other games and it overwrote what oyu have

[unkempt lake]

shader stutter ≠ initial shader compilation

[elfin niche]

I’m running both without hardware acceleration too so it relies on cpu rather than gpu because certain content cant be streamed

[unkempt lake]

Why would you do that

Lol

[ashen spindle]

he literally said why lol

[elfin niche]

Oh yea driver updates, i dont rmb those

[elfin niche]

Like netflix if u stream with gpu on discord its literally black screen

[unkempt lake]

It's a copyright protection measure

[elfin niche]

Welp its the only way to bypass it

[unkempt lake]

Just don't share movies to your friends on netflix while you game?

[ashen spindle]

great idea "just dont do the thing you like to do" xD

[elfin niche]

Sometimes my friends watches my stream and i play game on the side

[unkempt lake]

Also

Firefoz doesnt block it

[elfin niche]

Im using edge, chrome firefox brave failed me

[unkempt lake]

literally

Its not like you use netflix all the damn time

Only use it for those

[ashen spindle]

why are you even arguing about what he does when it doesnt change much on what hardware makes sense to get lol

[elfin niche]

If theres a series I’m interested in then its like every evening after work

[fickle ore]

when will they fix this shader mess, didnt have this issue 3 yrs ago

[ashen spindle]

short answer, in due time, long answer, when DX12 changes a lot and engines update

[elfin niche]

Hmmm maybe game files are too huge to load and devs are lazy to clean them up? Maybe…

And this is the only board that offers the most usb, i hope its not dogwater

[rain quiver]

Undervolting doesn’t increase raw performance mane its just for temps / power consumption

[elfin niche]

Rarely it performs ever slightly better than stock too

[rain quiver]

Point is nobody is getting a 20% performance increase or anything close to it from a oc and undervolt

Mine only got like 5% better

[elfin niche]

Thats true

[ashen spindle]

no undervolting lowers temperatures at same clocks so it allows higher boosts

and der8auer for example did get it to beat a 5080 in cp2077 with UV

[cyan surge]

d

[bright briar]

is it true that white pc builds show the dust more than black pc builds?

so many people say it does but how does that make sense

[unkempt lake]

Nah

Most of the dust in my house tends to be bundles of cat hair tho

[pale sigil]

@unkempt lake last chance

If you want me to use an iPhone you'll have to buy me one

[unkempt lake]

gimme a good reason to buy you anything

[lyric hatch]

Well won't be running out of storage anytime soon

[magic minnow]

@modern sphinx https://x.com/modsmouse/status/1907550205383422207?

PMM (@ModsMouse) on X

Our G305 mods have a system that allows the calibration of pre-travel

Do you want to see this in other mods?

X · Apr 2, 2025, 9:46 PM

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/disabled-itcrowd-gif-5212455

[modern sphinx]

that’s kinda neat but what if you lose the screwdriver, it’s GG I guess

[wheat plume]

iOS is weird

[wheat plume]

If you lose the screwdriver, I guess that means you're screwed

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-funnyanimal-cat-kitten-cute-gif-1816846181050494705

[left pasture]

Guys

I need help

What’s the best gaming laptop u can get with a budget of £700

[vagrant reef]

A second hand one

[left pasture]

Nah I rather have brand new

[vagrant reef]

Then RIP

[left pasture]

I don’t want the best best one

I just want the best one that £700 can buy

[vagrant reef]

Do you want it to run games?

You'll need more than £700 for it to be brand new and run games

[left pasture]

Not brand new as in the latest one tho

[vagrant reef]

I know

[left pasture]

What budget would I need for a good game running one then

R u from UK?

[vagrant reef]

They're typically about £1,200 minimum

[left pasture]

Woah 😭

Am I better off with a pc

[vagrant reef]

For that price yeah

Then upgrade over time

[lyric hatch]

Yeah laptop is always going to be more expensive than the equivalent PC

[vagrant reef]

Laptops are notoriously expensive

[left pasture]

Don’t pc parts cost like 500

Like an ssd n all the other stuff

Idk anything about tech icl 😭

[lyric hatch]

Depends what you buy, there's products in all budget categories

[vagrant reef]

Can get one of these if you want it to be obsolete about about 2 years

[left pasture]

Obsolete?

[vagrant reef]

You'll get more for your money if you get a desktop

[ashen spindle]

the first question is, what do you need it for, does it need to be a laptop so you can carry it around or would it just be in your room

laptops are inherently more expensive for the same performance because they are made to be carried around

[vagrant reef]

Same performance is a stretch as well

[left pasture]

Jus to be in my room as I can’t afford a whole pc rn

[ashen spindle]

well that doesnt make much sense, a pc with the same performance is much cheaper

[left pasture]

I’d have to buy the pc the monitor n idk what else to initially start my set up

[ashen spindle]

a big part of the cost of laptops is making it something you can carry, that can run on battery etc.

[sudden imp]

Let me know if this works I may have to steal this.

[ashen spindle]

you buy all the same parts just on laptop it costs more because its all smaller etc.

so if you dont need it to be super small you get a seperate monitor thats cheaper than the small panel thats just for a laptop

same for the rest of the parts

[left pasture]

Ahh I see

Ok I’ll prolly buy a pc for myself then

But do still needa gift a friend for their birthday

N they have been banging on about a gaming laptop

Could I just send some n u guys lmk if it’s good or not pls since I have no clue about em

[ashen spindle]

yeah theres probably someone around who can give feedback

[vagrant reef]

What are they looking to play on it?

[left pasture]

Valorant, osu, league of legends cod

Siege

Games like that n also able to watch anime in good quality

[vagrant reef]

Should be fine for online comp games.

Bare in mind, it wont be at max settings

[left pasture]

Would be smooth tho?

[vagrant reef]

If the settings are medium then probably

[left pasture]

Is ryzen 7 worth the extra money?

Wait do I go for ryzen 7 or i7?

[ashen spindle]

those arent the important names you need to look for the actual cpu names

[vagrant reef]

Not actually sure for laptops tbh

[ashen spindle]

i7 or ryzen7 is just the category but those still could be vastly different chips with the same branding

[left pasture]

What part of the name would be the cpu

[ashen spindle]

something like i7-12600hx or ryzen 7 8600

[left pasture]

Oh ok so what do I do when I know the cpu

[ashen spindle]

thats what you need to list if you want to ask someone which one is better

[left pasture]

Ahhh ok

[ashen spindle]

you coudl figure it out yourself but thats difficult on laptops without any knowledge

[left pasture]

Ryzen 7-5800H

[ashen spindle]

and the intel one?

[left pasture]

I don’t wanna keep bugging u guys tbh

[left pasture]

Intel i7-12650H

[vagrant reef]

Pretty on par

[ashen spindle]

well for a desktop there are simple youtube videos that compare hardware parts, for laptops is a bit more complicated

thoser are fairly similar though the intel one would most often be the better choice assuming similar price

[left pasture]

Ye jus a £4 difference

[vagrant reef]

For £4 the intel is better

[left pasture]

It’s a stretch on the budget from £700 those two laptops would be either £1125 or £1129

Is that amount worth it?

[vagrant reef]

Define worth it.

For £837 you can get something like this

Which has the longevity bonus of being able to be upgraded

Along with selling the old components when you upgrade, making the upgrade cheaper

[ashen spindle]

I mean if you just put it in a room and dont need to move it around, a laptop will always be a few hundred more for the same specs of a desktop, at least

[vagrant reef]

Something under £1000 these days, there has to be compromises

[left pasture]

What website is this?

[vagrant reef]

pc part picker

[ashen spindle]

so I would reallyt advice you to only get a laptop if absolutely necessary, a 1200 laptop can easily be beaten by a sub 1000 pc

[left pasture]

Nah he travels a lot compared to me so he wants a laptop as he can take it with him when he goes out of country for work

[ashen spindle]

fair enough then

[left pasture]

Also guys

For a pc set up

Wooting 60he good?

[vagrant reef]

60HE is great.

A lot of preference is involved though.

If you want extra keys like arrow keys / function row etc, then 80HE is better

[left pasture]

Games like valorant u don’t need the arrows n other stuff do u?

[vagrant reef]

If you wanna get a 5 year warranty then you can check CeX's website for laptops.

They currently have a Grade A (Mint / New condition) laptop similar to one you said about.

[left pasture]

16GB Ram is good right

[vagrant reef]

It's fine yeah

[left pasture]

32 would be unnecessary

[left pasture]

Thank youuu

[gusty kiln]

16 is like bare minimum

32 is comfty

[vagrant reef]

Just depends.

If they're doing light business work & online comp gaming then it's fine (Which I'm assuming so as they don't have much tech knowledge)

[left pasture]

They do

I don’t

But can’t exactly tell him that I need specs for it cah he’ll know I’m gettin that as his bday gift

[vagrant reef]

True

If you order it online dont forget you get 2 weeks to return

But yeah most laptops allow you to buy more ram and upgrade them anyway

[left pasture]

Even on Amazon?

[vagrant reef]

It's a consumer right in the UK

So everywhere

[left pasture]

I really appreciate ur help guys thank you n sorry for takin ur time

[vagrant reef]

Nae bother, always happy to migrate those to PC gaming

[vapid ruin]

$450 for nintendo switch 2

Idk what to do think about that other than cramming those tech into the base nintendo switch 2 prop cost Nintendo a lot

Game price is insane tho

[astral haven]

4k and 120fps? ❌ to doubt

theres no shot they doled out the cash to put a port that can run that

4k or 120fps maybe

[vapid ruin]

switch 2 game price makes me think GTA 6 costing $100 actually possible lmao

[lyric hatch]

Seems like it

[astral haven]

yea 4k60 and 1080p120, no 4k120

[lyric hatch]

Seems like it supports 1440p120 also

Na that's 4k 60 and 1080p/1440p 120

[vapid ruin]

it's nice for the console to have resolution upgrade

[astral haven]

1080p120 native very nice

with vrr too

[vapid ruin]

a nice console to play switch 1 game

[lyric hatch]

Wonder what that "custom processor from Nvidia" is

And can we get that on a Nvidia shield 👀

[vapid ruin]

I wonder what kind of touchscreen it uses

genuinely a good alternative to ipad when it comes to rhythm game

[astral haven]

if its not the orin t239 chip that has been rumored forever id be shocked

[astral haven]

ill give you 2 hints, its not resistive, and its not IR