🔌│tech

[balmy vector]

i also have one, though came from a mobo in the box

[steady sail]

I wanna get one that could hold more if i wanna expand it

Soo even this would be enough i guess

[balmy vector]

i mean if 2 slots is suitable for your needs

[steady sail]

Its more than 1 that i have atm

[bright briar]

why asus 5090 so ugly

why extra fan on top

https://tenor.com/view/kittyspin-ks-kitty-spin-meme-gif-15005882125990334534

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-sponge-bob-look-at-it-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-14840416

[reef patrol]

Because it blows air through bottom to top.

[vapid ruin]

as long as I can play rhythm game, deep rock, and helldiver, I'm happy.

which 5700x3d can do really well

[gentle osprey]

This was actually my favorite one out of all the models

But 50 series is ass so

I’ll wait for 6090

Has to be good

[unkempt lake]

@gentle osprey the xtx is within 10fps of the 4090 in ac shadows

I haven't found anyone who seemed interested enough to discuss this with me smh

And in rt it still keeps up with the 4080 somehow

SOMEONE DISCUSS TECHNOLOGY WITH ME

[vapid ruin]

DAMN

9070xt being goated

[leaden kiln]

9.5 fps is not 10% of 83.1

[unkempt lake]

I clearly meant to type 10fps

@vapid ruin look at maxed rt

[leaden kiln]

maybe you should clearly type that next time 🚬

[unkempt lake]

what is this dark magic

We got indiana jones that ran great on amd

And now this which runs great on amd

Both w rt

[vapid ruin]

mmm

[crimson wigeon]

Probably they don't make too heavy use of RT

[unkempt lake]

Its super noticeable tho

In this title

Hi quin

[ashen spindle]

not too surprising if you remember AC valhalla that also ran very weirdly well on amd

[unkempt lake]

Kinda forgot about that one

But yeah its still the anvil engine so

[serene ruin]

Damn shadows seems horribly optimized

What about 1440p?

[ashen spindle]

yeah it looks great but runs quite bad on my 4090

[serene ruin]

Even with dlss + frame gen?

[unkempt lake]

You could also use very high instead of ultra

[ashen spindle]

you dont even know what settings I use?

[unkempt lake]

No idea

But i assumed you made the mistake of setting ot to ultta

[ashen spindle]

lol no didnt even try

[unkempt lake]

also quin i thought you didnt like ac

Am i just confused

[gentle osprey]

That’s pretty good tbh

[gentle osprey]

You think it has anything to do with consoles?

[unkempt lake]

Gap is even less at 4k

[gentle osprey]

I find games that are usually made for console, run better on AMD

cause consoles are AMD

[unkempt lake]

All games are made for consoles tho

[astral haven]

😱 absolutely no way impossible
-_-

[gentle osprey]

Not really

[astral haven]

all aaaa games are

but most arent

[unkempt lake]

Yeah indies and esports are generally made for pc but

Big productions are always made for consoles and indie and esport is not really technically impressive

[astral haven]

only the second and top most popular genres by player counts

[gentle osprey]

Yeah it’s like how CoD runs really well on AMD

[astral haven]

also its not "indie"

its "not aaaa"

[gentle osprey]

Quadruple A

[unkempt lake]

...?

Even aa games target consoles

The hell are you on about

[astral haven]

where did I say they dont?

[gentle osprey]

I mean I’m not arguing lol, just making an observation that “console-esque” games run better on AMD

[ashen spindle]

ehh sometimes but thats not always the case either

[gentle osprey]

Yeah not always

[astral haven]

unless you mean target in the literal sense, where target means you are starting from a different location and aiming somewhere else

[unkempt lake]

Target demographic/hardware

[unkempt lake]

Seems like its mostly engine dependent

[astral haven]

the actual reason is the aaaa games have enough money behind them to receive engineers from the platforms, and usually they pick and chose
the massive open worlders used to have nvidia help, but nowdays nvidia is too busy with their yacht problem to bother

[gentle osprey]

Sounds accurate

[unkempt lake]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-5090-departs-from-RTX-3090-Ti-and-RTX-4090-flagship-tradition-drops-VRAM-ECC-for-pro-workloads.958141.0.html

Who the fuck is the 5090 for then

No ecc

To me the only way this gpu made sense was as a prosumer gpu

Or for someone who doesn't want to spend extra on workstation grade shit

[wraith karma]

yo does some1 know why my wootomation macro doesnt activate if i press the key?

[astral haven]

nvidia is targeting the old sli 1080ti users, and they keep increasing the price in the hopes that people wont buy it eventually so they can use the chips for servers

[unkempt lake]

I never understood those people

@ashen spindle max rt ultra fsr quality there's like... 1 drop in the whole benchmark always at the same point, was wondering if you got the same xD

[wraith karma]

damn nice specs u got dashi

[unkempt lake]

oh thank you lol

[ashen spindle]

what am I suppsed to do with that?

didn run the benchmark

[unkempt lake]

Well whenever you run it let me know

I'm curious

[ashen spindle]

not before I've beaten the game

[bright briar]

thats what im thinking waiting for either the 60 series or bite the bullet and get 9070xt

but what if the 60 series is ass too

[unkempt lake]

"I'll wait for the 50 series" energy

You saw how that turned out

If you're unhappy with your rig and can't play the games you like properly then i'd say upgrade right away

Whenevee you find something at msrp

Only reason to wait is if you're upgrading for the sake of upgrading and not cuz you need it

[astral haven]

ive been waiting so long for a new interesting computer part that ive now saved up car money

[unkempt lake]

I upgraded from the 2080 to the XTX in 2023 cuz i was switching from 3x1080p surround to 5120x1440 so...

• nico's 1660 was getting long in the tooth for him

And i had a good deal on the xtx

And the monitor lol

Its all about circumstances really

[astral haven]

regarding cars, how tf is the 2022 mercedes eqs (electric S class) around 40k now????
that was a car that was well over 150k 2 years ago

[unkempt lake]

Depreciation?

Reliability issues?

Happenned with the volkswagen id4 no one wants them because their unreliable and shitty

[gentle osprey]

I hope not, if they ruin the 6090, the world will end as we know it

[astral haven]

that is a description of what happened yes

[gentle osprey]

Can’t ruin 6090

It’s 69 like cmon

Can’t fuck that up

[unkempt lake]

They'll bring back GF experience

ha ha ha...

[gentle osprey]

Nvidia AI Girlfriend Experience

[astral haven]

but i cant find this, and the teslas which have much more obvious issues havent depreciated anywhere near as much

[unkempt lake]

Lonely gamers rejoice

[unkempt lake]

Hmmm

Tbh i have no idea about the current car market i drive a car from 04 and a car from 08 paid cash for them

And my 08 gti is more fun to drive than most modern crap

[astral haven]

and the id4 is still over 50% not under 1/3

[unkempt lake]

🤔

Maybe parts cost on the benz?

Shit breaks people can't afford the parts

@astral haven wouldn't that be logical?

[astral haven]

they are all under warranty...

[unkempt lake]

Maybe it doesn't cover everything?

[astral haven]

the reason they are available is because they are off lease vehicles, owner probably got a new lease afterwards
but why arent people buying the used ones

[unkempt lake]

I guess that makes sense

Curious what do you drive rn

[astral haven]

cover everything warranty is 4 years 50k miles, most of the cars are 2 years 20k miles on average from what i can see
the batteries are warrantied for 10 years 150k miles

[astral haven]

leaf

2013

[unkempt lake]

How much does that thing cost to charge in the us i have no idea about your powercosts

Here it's 0.06$ cad/kwh

So its dirt cheap to charge an electric car

[astral haven]

varies greatly
from the grid its 30c/kwh
but from our solar panels its free practically (power company doesnt reimburse power given back to grid any more)

[unkempt lake]

Solar panels that's neat

[astral haven]

also there are tons of free or price of parking "slow" chargers here

[unkempt lake]

Main complaint about electric cars is

They're boring

Why hasn't someone come up with something fun yet

Yesyes i know electric cars can be powerful but

They're boring xD

[astral haven]

skill issue

[unkempt lake]

1 gear, lack of driver involvement

[astral haven]

ah yes i love managing my vehicle rather than being able to enjoy the road

while there are some evs that simulate pedal lag like a gas car (eco mode usually does that), most are much more responsive both on accelerating and braking

[unkempt lake]

I like it tho

There's a reason i drive a stick shift xd

Its just more fun

Yes i know getting a new manual is almost impossible even gas car wise

But idk i drove an ev once and i felt just... bored

The torque is nice but its just idk

It doesn't make my brain get happy little vibes

[astral haven]

what ev?

ill bet it was one of the appliances

[unkempt lake]

Yeah it was a bolt

But like

Even in the economy car segment

I'd rather drive an old busted civic than that

Or my grandma's corolla

[astral haven]

none of those are anywhere near as responsive wut

[unkempt lake]

Oh i'm not saying they're fast

[astral haven]

bolt isnt fast, but its responsive

[unkempt lake]

Its just idk it feels like i'm actually doing something

And not just sitting there

[astral haven]

also any fwd car is definitionally an appliance

[unkempt lake]

Btw it was a volt not a bolt

Typo sorry xd

[astral haven]

oh ew

thats not an ev

[unkempt lake]

I ran it in electric mode

[astral haven]

its still not an ev

[unkempt lake]

Ok yes it has a gas generator

But it runs on electric basically all the time

Anyhow... it felt... meh

[unkempt lake]

A gti is a fun appliance tho

:3

[astral haven]

common misconception
its a hybrid transaxle that can decouple the engine

the volt was a compliance car that only had the big battery to receive a tax credit, it doesnt feel anything like the other evs

its definetly one of the best hybrids until the 2024 prius, but still an appliance

[unkempt lake]

Welp yeah i didn't drive any of the new evs

[astral haven]

bolt isnt that new, very much an appliance too but you can at least spin the wheels

[unkempt lake]

Anyhow only reason i'd even think about an ev is welp... if one of our 2 cars got totalled

[astral haven]

before i bought the leaf, i took a tour of every option i could get my hands on, including the volt and buzz forks, and not only was the leaf the cheapest option (including fuel and maintenance), it also was very responsive

i was very close to getting the volt or bolt, but the volt was expensive in maintenance and the bolt was expensive in price and was even missing some features that the leaf had without going even crazier on price

[unkempt lake]

Leaf does seem like a nice little car

How's the range on it?

Also wtf steam again?
https://cyberinsider.com/steam-removes-sniper-phantoms-resolution-after-users-find-malware-in-demo/

[astral haven]

i can get to the nearest city just about lol

benefit is ill never have range anxiety on any real ev lol

[unkempt lake]

As long as it meets ur needs its what matters

[astral haven]

it does, it also met quite a few extra wants on top of that
but now i have more wants

and the aptera doesnt seem to be getting any closer

[wheat plume]

What do these do??

Only the more expensive one has a heart rate sensor

[astral haven]

They are wrist mounted computers, you do what you want with them

[wheat plume]

Oh...hmm

These look like they might be too big for my tiny ass wrists :'(

But the design is so nice and they have long battery life too

[astral haven]

I'm surprised you aren't more excited about the FOSS + hackability aspect

[wheat plume]

I am!

I wonder do they have a night mode?

The watch I have rn has night mode
Where it turns off the display and it doesn't respond to touch during the hours you set and it requires you to press the side button to wake the screen

[astral haven]

The display is passive so it never needs to turn off
And the chaper model doesn't have touch

[wheat plume]

Yeh
The problem is that it doesn't turn off
Which means it'll be on while trying to sleep

[astral haven]

It doesn't emit light

Its epaper

[wheat plume]

So it's impossible to read in the dark?

[astral haven]

Original one was
They might have a backlight now

[wheat plume]

They quote 30 days battery life
I doubt it has a backlight

[astral haven]

Oh they both do

It probably requires a shake or a button-press to activate it

[wheat plume]

The specs say always on

[astral haven]

The screen not the backlight

You familiar with e-paper?

Its epaper

[wheat plume]

Wait...
It's a tiny version of Linux on these?!

[crimson wigeon]

No

[wheat plume]

So just custom low level firmware?

[astral haven]

Yep

And it's finally open source

[wheat plume]

Yeh I'm looking at their repo now :D

[pale sigil]

Tbh I like the idea of them

My friend had obe

[pale sigil]

Damn they are December now

Must be selling out

Confused though...

[pale sigil]

Guessing this doesn't charge vat

[wheat plume]

January

Got to wait 9 whole months

[pale sigil]

I kinda expected time 2 to sell faster

[wheat plume]

Yeh same
It's pricey af though ...

Debating getting one.. They seem so cool
But IDK how you use these

[crimson wigeon]

Like a watch

[astral haven]

2 models, second one was December at launch

[wheat plume]

Yeah... Maybe it might be a better idea to get the cheaper one without the touchscreen cause then you can't accidentally maybe the screen light up if you touch it somehow at night when trying to sleep

[astral haven]

You can just delete the code for the touchscreen if you want lol

Also most watchfaces don't support touch because the og ones didnt

[pale sigil]

Who cares?

God forbid you activate it when asleep XD

Battery will still be better than most smart watches.... Kinda sick of charging my Samsung watch.

[astral haven]

"Most" all but the craziest garmins

[wheat plume]

I don't want it to light up at night when sleeping cause the brightness will wake me up

Like what happened with my current watch before I found out how to enable night mode

[bright briar]

[astral haven]

Do you not think that a Foss unit would have no option whatsoever to disable the light?

[wheat yacht]

Isn’t the 60 series not coming out for like another 5 years

[gentle osprey]

Uhm no

More like 2027-28

[lyric hatch]

Yeah and will probably be on a proper new node so performance gains should be decent just from that alone

[gentle osprey]

Lets get another 3000 to 4000 series jump

[lyric hatch]

Yeah idk about that one

[gentle osprey]

[balmy vector]

We need the 60 gamers to rise up, they getting bullied by ngreedia so hard

[unkempt lake]

With the same price increase again?

Would you really be able to pay that mich more for a 6000

Like if it had the same jump as 30vs40

[gentle osprey]

technically prices were lowered compared to last gen except for the 5090

if you ignore tariffs

[balmy vector]

And aibs

Those stinky margins are DEADLY

[unkempt lake]

Tmw ac shadows is making my 7900xtx boost so much

Its kinda insane

Its reaching 3ghz lol

Like not just a peak it just

Stays at those insanely high frequencies

[balmy vector]

How long we boost clock?

AC shadows: FOREVER!

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[bright briar]

yo momma

[unkempt lake]

hi

[bright briar]

oi bruv

[pale sigil]

I'm waiting for the 70 series

[hasty surge]

Guys I fucked it, I tried to place the 4070 ti super order today for around 580$ and it was all sold out

Now the options I have around the same price range are 4070 super, 7900 gre and 7800xt I think(all around 550-600$)

[hasty surge]

And idk how many times I told you the price here is around 900

It’s going to take like 6 months for it to go to 800

Yeah msrp here is impossible

That’s going to take years

It’s not the msrp here too is like 650 in usd

[steady sail]

Skill issue

[steady sail]

All models are 900$ ?

[hasty surge]

No the 9070xt is around 920$ and 9070 is around 700$

[fathom venture]

4070 ti super for 580?

in what world

[hasty surge]

It was tho

[fathom venture]

go for the 4070 super if the prices are similar

im not hating but if the prices and performance is similar nvidia is a no brainer

[hasty surge]

4070 super performs the same as 7900gre?

[fathom venture]

almost

in some games 7900 better and in some 4070 super

so its pretty much the same

assuming youre using these cards for 1440p gaming

[steady sail]

I mean gpu vs gpu on youtube

[hasty surge]

What about 4k

[fathom venture]

i mean

they can handle 4k but these cards are built for 1440p gaming

[hasty surge]

I play valo and I’m wishing to try new games which are more demanding

[fathom venture]

valo on 4k?

are you planning to buy a 32+ inch monitor

[hasty surge]

27

[fathom venture]

what?

u dont need 4k for a 27 inch monitor bro

[hasty surge]

Oh sorry

I meant 27 inch 1440p qdoled monitor

[fathom venture]

why ask about 4k then?

[hasty surge]

Just asking

Also is 480hz worth it?

[fathom venture]

price dif between 480 360

[steady sail]

In 4k the gre is gonna be more stable bc of the 16gb of ram

[fathom venture]

nah wont perform great

can handle but the performance wont be great

[hasty surge]

Around 300$ I think

[fathom venture]

bro-

[steady sail]

U can lower graphics settings xd

[fathom venture]

just get a 360hz

and spend the rest on a better gpu

what cpu are you getting

[hasty surge]

9800x3d

[fathom venture]

so get a 360hz monitor

and spend the rest on a better gpu

[hasty surge]

Motherboard?

[fathom venture]

doesnt really inc performance

just get a decent one

b650m should do

[steady sail]

B650 is more than enough

[hasty surge]

Is 32gb ram enough?

[fathom venture]

do you want to only play games?

video editing?

[hasty surge]

No

[fathom venture]

32 is more than enough

[steady sail]

32gb of ram is kinda needed as more and more games needs 16gb as of base

[fathom venture]

also 9800x3d?

why do you need such a high end cpu?

[hasty surge]

Valo

[fathom venture]

7600x should do bro

[hasty surge]

But I need over 500 FPS

[fathom venture]

your ass isnt aspas bro

[hasty surge]

I mean I play comp and quite high ranked so idk

[fathom venture]

mad

ok then get a 9800x3d and spend the 300 somewhere else ig

gpu

get a better gpu

480hz and 360 is almost the same

hell even 240hz is more than enuf

[steady sail]

And im happy with 180hz

[fathom venture]

no he says he PLAYS COMP

lmao

[steady sail]

I do as well

[fathom venture]

also qdoled 360 is literally overkill for valo

[steady sail]

But i dont care about my rank

[fathom venture]

and even if you play other high demanding games, no system is pushing anything over 200 anyways on ultra settings

so idk why waste money on 480

its 2k oledwhat else do u need

[hasty surge]

I’m immortal bro

[fathom venture]

and?

even the top players use 240hz monitors

[magic minnow]

[fathom venture]

pros currently use the 540 600 hz monitor but they only play valo

i just woke up

idk what im typing

just make sense out of wtv i said

[steady sail]

My night shift ended

[hasty surge]

I mean is 480 too much

[fathom venture]

for qd oled

yes

[steady sail]

If u wanna get one not

But u need a pc as well

[fathom venture]

no point spending so much on a monitor

spend that on hardware instead

[hasty surge]

What’s your rank because you don’t seem to understand

[steady sail]

I had like 400ish fps with a 58x3d and a 6700xt LMAO in valo

[fathom venture]

im hardstuck asc but i did peak immo2 so idk man

i think i do understand

i stopped playing for a while

[hasty surge]

Oh

What about your monitor

[fathom venture]

240hz

[hasty surge]

Does it feel smooth? Have you tried the 480hz monitor

[fathom venture]

1 its already butter smooth

2 its 4k oled so no i cant get anything over 240

[hasty surge]

So why do you say 480hz is worse

[fathom venture]

huh

when did i say its worse

i said its not worth it

get a 360 instead

and invest the rest on your gpu

alralr imma dip then all the best seg

[steady sail]

@hasty surge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jdqxWc there is a pc that u can build for 3000$ LMAO

[hasty surge]

3000$???

[fathom venture]

whats your budget then?

[hasty surge]

1500ish

[fathom venture]

huh?

the monitor itself costs like 1k

the cpu is 500

tf?

[hasty surge]

Oh sorry I meant the budget for the pc

[fathom venture]

i mean

just go for a 360 dude

[steady sail]

The budget for the whole setup with everything

[fathom venture]

whats the price of the 9070xt

[hasty surge]

900$

[fathom venture]

yea not worth it

i just have one question, 480hz to only play valo?

because other than comp games(not even all the comp games but ok) the pc wont push over 100 on max setting(talking about the high demanding games)

[hasty surge]

I only play valo mostly

[fathom venture]

just go for ips bro

[steady sail]

Just go with a 240hz in that case xd

[fathom venture]

playing valo on oled is crazy work

[hasty surge]

What about response time

[fathom venture]

imlosing braincells talking to u bro

[hasty surge]

Why? I’m new to this sorry

[fathom venture]

ykw google and figure it out

its not even a noticeable diff

for a human

fuck me even pros cant tell who have superhuman feats

[steady sail]

Every pro has gamer socks

[fathom venture]

300 g mouse in 2025

[steady sail]

I got like high diamond with a 120g mouse in r6 before the ranked 2.0 update

[fathom venture]

oled absolutely no diffs ips

but for valo

idk i wouldnt spend 750 just to get better graphics

[steady sail]

I spent 720$ on my gpu LMAO

[fathom venture]

and on high level you literally play on low settings for comp advantage

[fathom venture]

thats what im saying

hardware>480 hz monitor which practically has no use

itll be like a tad bit smoother compared to a 360hz anyways

which does not even matter

[fathom venture]

stop abusing the g502 unc

tbf tho g502 was the thing back then

[steady sail]

I have a 180hz 1440p ips monitor

[steady sail]

It was a roccat kone xp, i hate logitech mouses

[hasty surge]

Is g502 good?

[fathom venture]

fuck no

[steady sail]

Just use a brick instead

[fathom venture]

its heavy asf

how did this guy reach immo bro

[hasty surge]

I mean I don’t have high end system like you Cemal and I’m on par with you

[fathom venture]

ok bro TvT

[steady sail]

I mean i had a 150g mouse at one point but it was back when lightweight wasnt this big and mainstream

[fathom venture]

at that time heavy mouses were the thing

[steady sail]

And tbh i loved heavy mouse

[fathom venture]

same

[steady sail]

More than the lightweight ones xd

[fathom venture]

tried the ultralight x

dogwater

[steady sail]

I wanted a gpro x superlight but bc i managed to try it out and just said no bc after like 10 seconds of holding it my hand just cramped

[fathom venture]

gpro is quite shit

[steady sail]

It’s uncomfortable to hold

[fathom venture]

yea

razer v3 viper pro is better

dav3 is quite shit too

[lyric hatch]

It's one of the safer shapes to be honest but won't fit everyone

[steady sail]

Im happy with my pulsar x2h mini

[fathom venture]

for me tho

thats a pretty good mouse tbf

razer had stinkers before

viper v3 pro is solid tho

[lyric hatch]

Shape is king as they say

[fathom venture]

preference

[hasty surge]

Should I go for viper v3 pro or dav3 then?

[steady sail]

Nah shape is really the key for a great mouse that u can use for a long time

[fathom venture]

whats your grip like?

[hasty surge]

Claw and finger I think?

[fathom venture]

hybrid you mean

viper v3 pro

[lyric hatch]

Well that's what shape is king means it's whatever shape is best for you is the best mouse

[fathom venture]

easy

dav3 is for the who like to palm grip

[lyric hatch]

Everything else is whatever really

[fathom venture]

ok mb bro i just woke up after a 1 hour sleep i thought you said v3 pro is the king of shape

[steady sail]

I mean my grip is just weird

[fathom venture]

looks like claw

hybrid maybe

[lyric hatch]

Yeah relaxed claw we have pretty similar grips actually

[fathom venture]

does your look like this @hasty surge

[hasty surge]

Kinda yea

[fathom venture]

v3 pro then

dav isnt meant for a grip like this

[steady sail]

Tho i wanna try out the wlmouse sword x just for funsies

Could be fun but i hate holes

[rough osprey]

180??

[fathom venture]

go for the beastx

its worth it

[rough osprey]

i thought the china mice are supposed to be cheap alternatives

[fathom venture]

i thinks thats a special ed

[steady sail]

190€ with shipping

[fathom venture]

nvm

thats insane

[steady sail]

I mean my x2h mini is a special edition as well and i paid 150$ for it

[fathom venture]

get a beastx mini

thats solid

or tbh get the viper v3 mini special ed

idk whats it exactly called

if you dont hate the software

get it

[rough osprey]

and its not even superlight or sum

[fathom venture]

ngl these mouses feel a bit weird

the software is like wooting tho

[steady sail]

Its 47 +-2g soo

[rough osprey]

nothing special for the size

[fathom venture]

bro wants a 10g mouse

lel

[rough osprey]

i do

[steady sail]

Im fine with mine at 55g

[fathom venture]

remove the outercasing

and game

chad move

[steady sail]

Make a shell out of carbonfiber

[fathom venture]

or oror

play without the shell

[rough osprey]

cant wait for x2f

[fathom venture]

no im just joking

lmao

since he wants a 10g mouse

[rough osprey]

one can dream

so much shell material you never gonna touch

[fathom venture]

tbf logitech pro mouse feels pretty good

compared to g pro superlight

[steady sail]

Just get a magic mouse

[rough osprey]

😭

[fathom venture]

or get the transformer one

[steady sail]

I wanna get the op1 8k in the frosted purple way

[rough osprey]

lamee

[fathom venture]

i want it to be wireless

[steady sail]

That would match my setup somewhat

Like would match a whole better

[rough osprey]

better then that mouse ye

[steady sail]

Yeah that’s why i want a purple mouse lmao

[hasty surge]

I save around 400$ on the 360hz

[steady sail]

Whats ur monitor atm ?

[hasty surge]

300hz IPS acer nitro

[steady sail]

Dont get a new monitor for the time being

Spend more money on a better gpu and later upgrade ur monitor

[hasty surge]

But the gap between IPS is oled is just insane

And if I spend all that money on a new gpu I can get a 5080 itself

[steady sail]

And u would loose FPS bc of bottleneck

[steady sail]

If u think spend the money on an oled and get a shitty gpu

[hasty surge]

Get 5080 you say?

[steady sail]

No lol

[hasty surge]

Because if I get the 360hz and get a 4080 super

Then I’m within my budget

But if I get a 480hz I can only get a 7900gre

[steady sail]

Whats in your pc atm ?

[hasty surge]

It’s a laptop

[steady sail]

Okay so my point is u need more money

[hasty surge]

Is 4080 super not enough

[rough osprey]

give bro sum

[steady sail]

Dude u have a laptop

[fathom venture]

dont bro

[steady sail]

U cant use the 4080

[fathom venture]

no no i think he-

[steady sail]

I mean u can look at it LMAO

[fathom venture]

wait is that what you mean seg?

[hasty surge]

Huh

[steady sail]

He has a fucking laptop

[hasty surge]

I’m building a pc

[fathom venture]

yea

no 4080 super is plenty dude

can run modern games without breaking a sweat

on ultra settings

will last you ages

[steady sail]

Yeah but u know how much is a 4080 super ?

[fathom venture]

anything over 4080 is good and kind of overkill unless you use it for other things

[hasty surge]

Around 900

[fathom venture]

lmaoooo

thats a good deal

it performs like the 7900xtx

go for it

no point getting a 480hz trust me

youll regret later

unless you have money to burn that is

do u play valo on a laptop

thats insane icl

[steady sail]

Yeah and ur budget is 1500 for a whole new pc right ?

[fathom venture]

i think i understand what he means

1500+1000 for monitor and pc

[rough osprey]

but its nicee

[fathom venture]

so if monitor is now 400 cheaper the budget is 1900 for the pc

around 2000 realistically

which is a upper midrange-high end build

both 98x3d and 4080 super are high end

[fathom venture]

360hz is enough

stop confusing him

[steady sail]

Just the gpu and the cpu is 1400

[fathom venture]

yea can cut the rest out

[rough osprey]

nothing is enough

[steady sail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/93syQd more than enough for valo LMAO

[fathom venture]

ram 100

overkill for valo

storage 60

cooler 60-100 if he wants aio

[rough osprey]

damn ram got cheap

[fathom venture]

motherboard 100

case 80-100

thats all

good enough

[fathom venture]

not the 4060

do not go for that seg

[steady sail]

For valorant ?

[fathom venture]

and 7600x cant push over 360 frames on 1440p

[fathom venture]

valo is cpu heavy

but would never recommend getting a 4060 for that

get a 1080ti instead

[rough osprey]

why not something used

[steady sail]

[fathom venture]

1999?

@hasty surge

[hasty surge]

No

It’s around 900

[rough osprey]

no stock moment

[steady sail]

Where

[fathom venture]

around 1000 but ok

still not bad

[steady sail]

Yeah but still its over his whole budget

[fathom venture]

how?

1500 for gpu cpu

100 for ram

50 for ssd

100 mobo

30 cooler

60 case '

[steady sail]

@hasty surge whats your whole budget for the pc ?

[steady sail]

With a 1500$ budget like that

[fathom venture]

100 psu

1940

can go for aio+slightly better case too

[steady sail]

And add a monitor and other stuff

[fathom venture]

still 2600

[hasty surge]

2500ish maybe

Oh for the pc maybe 2000

[steady sail]

With monitor and with everything?

[hasty surge]

If I drop the monitor

From 480 to 360

[hasty surge]

Yes

Excluding keyboard mouse

[fathom venture]

good enough then

[rough osprey]

dont forget 500 dollar keyboard

[fathom venture]

could be slightly higher but thats ok you can always save

[fathom venture]

aint no way

dont get that expensive of a keyboard

[rough osprey]

very important

[fathom venture]

get razer

[rough osprey]

😭

[fathom venture]

will be enough

you want him to go for wooting?

customs will cost more than the keyboard

[rough osprey]

yes

[fathom venture]

nah nah

too expensive

[rough osprey]

have more money

[steady sail]

Whats the price for a 7900 xtx ?

[fathom venture]

😭 🙏

[fathom venture]

why? would rec 4080 super over7900xtx

they are pretty much the same

and same price point nvida>amd anyday

[hasty surge]

1000$

[fathom venture]

no brainer

[steady sail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r8XgqH this is 3300$

[fathom venture]

pretty sure that monitor is ips

[steady sail]

With a qd-oled monitor the price is 3500$

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nssyQd

[hasty surge]

How? Pc for 2000 and monitor for like 600 700

[steady sail]

Bc those are US prices

• the 4080 super isnt made anymore soo its gonna be double the price

[fathom venture]

tbf he just sent a pic showing its 900

[steady sail]

In india kek

[fathom venture]

how does that change anything tho

[steady sail]

And thats most likely gonna be a scam with missing gpu or something LOL

[fathom venture]

true actually

[steady sail]

2 different countries

[fathom venture]

no i meant his build will fit his budget

[steady sail]

Or the 4080 super is gonna be a 4070 ti super instead

[fathom venture]

still good tho

would rec that over 7900gre atleast

[steady sail]

Like its around 1500$

Just for the gpu itself

[hasty surge]

Idk bro🤷

https://youtu.be/4X3zyFyRGBU check this out

As in?

The prices won’t match?

Or the build itself is not great for modern games

Is the 9070xt better than the 4080 super?

@fathom venture Said get the 4080 super instead, any reason?

No but since I was dropping the 480hz monitor I was planning to get a better gpu

Better than the 7900gre

4080super was around 900

Nah

Checked the benchmarks

4080 super seems better

[steady sail]

like 1-5% soo its not the end of the world xd

[digital cliff]

techpowerup's ranking says about 9%

[steady sail]

sure but still its not the end of the world

[devout raptor]

good pc for valorant should be a crime

[steady sail]

idk valo as a game is a crime

[floral copper]

4080 super master race

[hasty surge]

Just a question but qd oled 480hz doesn’t exist?

[rough osprey]

no but 500hz soon

[hasty surge]

I only see woled 480hz

Not qd oled

I remember physically witnessing them all, qd oled somehow looks the best

Idk what’s the reason

[rough osprey]

better colors especially at higher brightness

[hasty surge]

When?

[hasty surge]

Is that the reason?

That I felt like it’s the best

[rough osprey]

sometime this year :)

[hasty surge]

Nah I want it rn

Fuck it 360hz it is then

[rough osprey]

at normal sdr brightness they should look super similar

but hdr will be better on qd

but qd is not good when u got like lights shining on the monitor cuz it raises the blacklevel

[hasty surge]

TvT

It’s either qd oled 360hz or woled 480hz

[rough osprey]

ye

[steady sail]

ips 60hz

[hasty surge]

What do you mean by raises black level?

That’s outrageous

What are the drawbacks of woled

Should I go woled or qd

I did

I don’t understand which one will be beneficial to me

[digital cliff]

there's a bunch of videos even about it

[rough osprey]

high brightness = lower saturation

[digital cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=qdoled+woled here you go

[rough osprey]

basically

[digital cliff]

go watch all of these videos

[rough osprey]

if u in darker room / playing at evening and dont really care about hdr = go woled

they not bad at hdr but worse then qd

i would enjoy it in forza

my brake lights are just white

😭

[hasty surge]

I do game in a dark room was planning to go qd oled for this

[rough osprey]

u can ofc, if those conditions are met i would prefer the higher refreshrate option rn tho

in the case of 1440p 360hz vs 480hz

for like comp games

[hasty surge]

But is spending 400$ extra for 120 extra hz worth it?

[digital cliff]

you're the one spending, ask yourself that

[rough osprey]

400 kinda high

what u paying for the 360hz?

[hasty surge]

Because I remember @sonic adder and @fathom venture Saying it’s not worth it considering the price tag

[hasty surge]

Around 700

[rough osprey]

the lg 480hz should be below 1k

[hasty surge]

No the 480hz is like 1.1 1.2

[rough osprey]

it was on offer to close to 800 even like twice

[rough osprey]

where u at?

[cerulean gyro]

why when i open cs it tabs out and i cant open it anymore

[devout raptor]

does anyone have like a general undervolting guide for a 5070 ti

my ventus card doesnt seem to allow power limit increase

[hasty surge]

Nah it’s like 1k minimum

[rough osprey]

its 939€ on lg website rn in europe lol

849€ a week ago

[hasty surge]

That’s like 1k usd

[hasty surge]

Yh

[rough osprey]

companies dont use direct conversion often times tho

[devout raptor]

was it just a lie?

[solemn helm]

Would still prob be $999.9 or smth

[devout raptor]

or was it just a lie all along

i know I have one

or do I?

[rough osprey]

go on lg website and use code SAVE25

[devout raptor]

maybe its a mislabeled 4070

[rough osprey]

shows 826usd for me

[solemn helm]

Why would AI lie, 50xx is definitely a mass conspiracy

[rough osprey]

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gx790a-b-gaming-monitor

[solemn helm]

True

[ashen spindle]

You Need to remove Sales Tax before converting currencies

[devout raptor]

Can i undervolt without unlocking the power limit?

i see

all the guides increase it but my card doesnt allow that

[ashen spindle]

Every card should allow it, what tool are you using

[devout raptor]

for?

[devout raptor]

afterburner

latest nvidia drivers

no ventus cards just dont allow unlocking power limit

i had an armory rx580 which is the same thing and it didnt allow it either

yeah thats true

apparently its a hard coded limitation

[hasty surge]

It’ll still be over 1000

No well, @rough osprey said you can get the 480 for around 800

Yeah

The 360 is like 700

[balmy vector]

Them get it

[hasty surge]

Just a question but isn’t the woled matte finished?

[balmy vector]

Matte or glossy doesnt matter that much

Especially if you’re already in a dark room

[hasty surge]

I do play games in the morning too so there’s light in the morning and it’s dark at night

So that’s because I was watching the reviews and they said so

[balmy vector]

Most “glossy oleds” are qd anyway,

Good ol semi-gloss

[hasty surge]

What’s that

Can you give me a small example if you have the time

[fathom venture]

How’s this a debate lol woled vs qdoled

[balmy vector]

[fathom venture]

Just go for qd if this is the endgame monitor for you

Since it’s a newer tech and 360hz is good enough

No qd has better tech for that

It probably will not have burn in issues like woled

Oh 100%

True actually

And honestly I don’t understand

480hz nobody needs 480

To play valo that too

[balmy vector]

Aka if you want even more color vibrance then qd

[solemn helm]

Just cuz there'll be something better it wouldn't make the current monitor any worse though

[fathom venture]

Qd should be the best choice rn

It’s newer

And 360 is literally smooth asf

480 is a little bit more smoother

If you want smoothness just go tn honestly

Valo doesn’t need oled

[balmy vector]

I prefer woled personally, waiting for their subpixel change

[fathom venture]

Because there’s no other fucking game where your pc will push over 400 other than valo and maybe cs

Nobody plays valo on high graphics

For comp advantage

And he’s getting a 480hz monitor only on the basis of valo

That purchase will be pointless for other games

And I wouldn’t spend that much just to play valo unless he wants to make it his bread and butter

[balmy vector]

Remember, he said he might play more demanding games

[fathom venture]

Even some pros play on 240 and are happy with that

And guess what

His pc can’t generate 150+ fps on those games at the first place

TvT I am not even bad bro

[balmy vector]

Theyd easily beat me with hamster mouse

[fathom venture]

Oh ok

Misunderstanding

And my final recommendation is going for 360hz qd oled, remember that it’s oled, a 240hz oled is on par with 360hz IPS btw 480hz is just unnecessary and pointless because it practically gives no advantage, it’s basically like saying let me get the gen5 nvme for gaming, it’s pointless since gen4 is more than enough(bad example but just think about it), get a 360hz monitor and it’ll anyways be on par with a 480hz(almost the same) @hasty surge

[coral girder]

For me 240 is enough for almost everything

[fathom venture]

I don’t think you get it, he’s the next s1mple

He needs the 480hz

[wheat plume]

I assume Bazzite will only get Gnome 48 once Fedora gets it? so Fedora 42 maybe right?

[devout raptor]

after some undervolting experimenting, im at 0.9mv 2900mhz and +1000mhz memory clock

got like +1 fps but a lot less power draw

[trim crane]

If we are talking motion clarity, PG27AQN (360Hz IPS) definitely beats the AW2725DF (360Hz OLED) fully thanks to how good ULMB 2 is. I would imagine it would even beat out the 480Hz OLED panels in motion clarity, but this is based off my personal experience

is it possible to overlay the CRT shader in scenario or is it just a demo

i tried the 120Hz OLED mode and it looked so good on my phone and portable display

could i hypothetically inject it into any game without much hassle?

ie geometry dash

[rough osprey]

use the code on checkout

[distant tapir]

On anything

ShaderGlass has it and ShaderGlass works anywhere

On desktop, videos, any game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWOcucS9_mg

[trim crane]

i also tried the demo on my PG27AQN 360Hz IPS and it looked really good

[distant tapir]

Get a 480 Hz oled and 60 fps games will look great in motion with it

[trim crane]

i will wait for the day QDEL will be released 👀

[scenic merlin]

what is qdel

[devout raptor]

@sonic adder

cheapest oled i can find

just wondering if its worth it and wanted your input

hmm

it was 499 a few months ago

prices went up, imma skip for now

[balmy vector]

Pretty sure that’s also one of the first gen oled monitors

I remember seeing that one

True

[trim crane]

Quantum Dot Electro Luminescent

[dull hollow]

not sure who cares but it seems like NYU got hacked and these graphs are useless xd

this is the same person who hacked UMN 2 years back, expsoing tons of SSNs

[distant tapir]

If you guys had the LTT $5000 upgrade challenge happen to you what would you buy?

[balmy vector]

A new vr headset

[unkempt lake]

moumou tech accessories like a 1000$ litterbox

A better tv

idk lol my setup's already awesome

[distant tapir]

Realistically I'd either buy a 5090 and a 4k 240 Hz oled, or maybe a lower tier GPU, no display but maybe an iPhone or something

[unkempt lake]

I'd provably upgrade nico's 9700k/2080 rig

Lol

My own rig doesn't need any upgrades

Actually

A 57 inch neo g9 instead of a 49 inch and a 5090 and a fire extinguisher

[balmy vector]

Make it 2 fire extinguishers, for extra safety

[gusty kiln]

A nice 2.1 setup, and maybe squeeze in a nice monitor

[bright briar]

you got 5090?

https://tenor.com/view/look-stare-face-mean-bruh-gif-27645430

[unkempt lake]

no i have a 7900xtx

[bright briar]

thats right you betta mate

bruv

[unkempt lake]

I have mou tho

Mou increases my gpu power my 69%

[bright briar]

mou mou gpu when?

[unkempt lake]

Already have one

Slots into the top of your pc

[ashen spindle]

Don’t we already have a pet channel

[unkempt lake]

This is a new type of gpu tho

See how its on the pc

[steady sail]

its a furr radiator

[unkempt lake]

Therefore its tech

[bright briar]

i need a new chair my gato ruined my gamur chair

[steady sail]

mou is a noise isolator for dashi

[bright briar]

cant have nice things when cat uses your chair as scratching post

[unkempt lake]

@ashen spindle still havent told me what settings you use in ac shadows

[marsh glade]

Moumou won't be contained to merely one channel

[unkempt lake]

I found that light sources and shadows can be turned down for a nice little fps boost without any visual loss

@marsh glade have you installed your 9070xt yet

[marsh glade]

I have installed it into the proper storage place while I collect the remaining bits and bobs

[bright briar]

ac shadows good? i hear mix reviews about it

[unkempt lake]

So far i've veen having fun

The new stealth ai is really good

[bright briar]

veen that good huh?

[unkempt lake]

They actually react

[steady sail]

its looks fun but the AI is soo dumb

[unkempt lake]

Roofs arent a safe place anymore

[unkempt lake]

The hell you on about

I'm also playing on hard so...

But yeah they chase you up rooftops, look up, you can't just walk around and pick people from the roofs

[bright briar]

mmmh is there subtitles so i can learn japanese? In origins it didnt work so i couldnt learn Arabic and the naked women in the fields always yelled at me for summoning my Camal

[steady sail]

u do an assassination go into a bush and the AI just loose tracks of u

[unkempt lake]

They investigate deaths, lights being broken

[unkempt lake]

Not on hard

On hard they check bushes randomly

If you killed someone earlier

Like they stay alert

People be like ai sucks but they set their games to fucking easy mode where half the fucking features arent kicking in

[marsh glade]

Any game with Xray vision that isn't a superman game is a no go for me

[steady sail]

i watched my friend play the game on hard, and that happened to him soo

[bright briar]

damn i guess subtitles dont work then

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQ-kH0Bz3I

[unkempt lake]

There's 2 difficulty sliders... one for stealth one for combat

[unkempt lake]

I can check for u

Im on max difficulty with guaranteed assasinations and having a blast

Ai feels better than most stealth games i've played in years

[steady sail]

thats what i saw soo

[unkempt lake]

Then again stealth games are a genre where we barely get anything nowadays

there is some leeway at times but honestly... there's gotta be a little bit of it

Still has to be fun

Xray vision would suck

Overall v happy with the ai and the new stealth mechanics

[marsh glade]

Seemingly, and I'm saying this while having paid practically no attention to it, the game launched in a playable state. That should be lauded

[analog sinew]

ubisoft, saviour of gaming

[balmy vector]

The real AAAA title they wanted to launch

[unkempt lake]

Probably the best rt showcase i've seen

Since cyberpunk

And indiana jones

[marsh glade]

I read somewhere that Ubisoft is looking to be split into multiple companies, with a number of its best IP being collected into a business unit seeking higher valuation than the current collective

[unkempt lake]

Yep this game's their last chance to keep shit together

[distant tapir]

One thing that bothers me about stealth in many games is that people can somehow tell if the sounds they are hearing are from you or someone else. Take Skyrim for example when you have to sneak through the mead brewery island or whatever. There are several guards inside the building patrolling every corridor and floor. How come that your footsteps heard far away makes them unsheathe their sword and go into alert mode when they are in a building with many other patrolling guards?! They just have this ability to somehow know if a sound is made by a friend or foe even when they don't see anything. And I doubt it's some kind of "the footwear makes a different sound!" reason. I think it's just bad design

It makes me not enjoy the stealth when it's like this

[marsh glade]

I can rationalize that to an extent; such that there are expectations for sounds that "should be there" and sounds that shouldn't

A patrol stomping around makes a very different noise than a person attempting (and failing) to be sneaky

[balmy vector]

Ask your brother to get me a code

[unkempt lake]

xd

[distant tapir]

Yes but the game makes no distinction between those. You can calmly walk across the floor and they will in the floor above or under you react to it as if they just somehow know it's a bad person and not just another guard walking over the floor

Are there games that have fixed this problem?

[unkempt lake]

He gets 2 codes per release iirc

[balmy vector]

So there’s a chance?

[unkempt lake]

He generally claims 1 code for himself then gives me the other

XD so no

Because i know he's been playing

[balmy vector]

[devout raptor]

oled monitor, and put the rest in cs skins

[thick ermine]

Walkolution desk treadmill.

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-pro-6000-blackwell-gpu-with-96gb-memory-listed-at-8435-launch-expected-in-may

[analog sinew]

they are just printing money

also somehow the AI idiots get VRAM but gamers dont :D

[ashen spindle]

its the normal workstation cards aka the old quadro line

same thing just new gen

[steady sail]

[leaden kiln]

finally i can have all the avatars enabled in the vrc lobby...

[unkempt lake]

Big price gap between the 5090 and that if you need ecc lol

[vapid ruin]

Don't call me out like that! I need it to run bigger and better AI waifu

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/Bs1O21ibuKM?si=w46Y8EZ0NMEZhziw

No you need this for your waifu purposes

[vapid ruin]

😭

if only there's a way to combine both amd and nvida card

for now I'm stuck with CUDA

[sudden imp]

9070xt was such a successful launch we got scented cards

so great

[analog sinew]

scented gpu is crazy but genius

it gets hot anyway

might aswell

[sudden imp]

hot components smell great

[balmy vector]

Didnt we already have scented cards

Couldve sworn they already did this the last gen

[old marlin]

5000 dollar custom keyboard

[gusty kiln]

Not sussy-vara or Utopia?

[old marlin]

Utopia maybe

[vapid ruin]

9800x3d + dual 4090 setup. Assuming I can get 2 4090 for $3000

[nimble arch]

I'd get the PG27UCDM

A new desk