🔌│tech

[unkempt lake]

Under the activation settings

[devout raptor]

allrighty

im still on windows 10 is there any point to update

[unkempt lake]

Worse case... 15$ oem key

[analog sinew]

only if the license is transfereablw

mine didnt transfer

[devout raptor]

hmm

[unkempt lake]

Ya windows 10 will no longer get security updates in fall

So just update it already i say

[devout raptor]

is it the license like motherboard hw id based or what

[unkempt lake]

Ye

But in your windows settings when signed in with your ms account

You can transfer if
T if its a multiuse licence

[devout raptor]

i need to check that tomorrow

[analog sinew]

just try to transfer it and if it doesnt buy a cheapo one

you cant tell i think

at least i found no way to

[devout raptor]

chatgpt gave some instructions

no my license is oem im pretty sure

i havent had to deal with this stuff since the last decade

[analog sinew]

my license was supposedly retail but still wouldnt transfer

idk

[crimson wigeon]

And sometimes it does transfer nicely until it eventually deactivates and demands blood money

[analog sinew]

i was even on the phone with support and they couldnt give me a straight answer

like they just dont know either they just try the same shit

[crimson wigeon]

Would be funny if they told people to just MAS it up

[unkempt lake]

I had a windows education key that stopped transferring ):

After 2 transfers

3rd trandfer ms was like nowo

[vapid ruin]

hmm, 1 hour before crew 10 launch

unless it's delayed again

[remote magnet]

why would anyoine wanna be an astronaut

scary as shit

[sudden imp]

Thanks for the heads up msi 👍

Also funny part this may be the best selling Radeon generation

[vapid ruin]

It's cool, being up in the sky like an angel and looking down on Earth.

[remote magnet]

yeah but flying up is worse

[vapid ruin]

Just like driving, there's risk

[remote magnet]

BIT OF A BIGGER RISK INM SPACE

[compact storm]

My wooting 60HE crashed while I was trying to update. I was mid game and keyboard stopped working. Tried restarting the pc but the keyboard still won’t work

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[steady sail]

#💬│general message

[whole axle]

The best OS is almost here

[wheat plume]

Anyone else having issues with steam not loading?

[thick elk]

Steam OS does very little on the desktop, other linux distro's cannot do

[steady sail]

im fine

[wheat plume]

Arguably less cause any package you install outside of Flatpak is wiped during SteamOS updates

[reef patrol]

Maybe from a Linux user's pov.

But for folks coming from consoles or Windows, it's the idea of a gaming centric Linux OS with wide adoption that's backed by Valve of all people.

[whole axle]

^

[fair gull]

but what about one of the other 3million distros? youre not a real linux user unless you used all of them at least once

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

truly funny to get told the first linux OS youre actually interested in using is a weird choice cause other can basically do the same on the desktop

and then linux people wonder why its not the main choice for a desktop OS

[nimble arch]

The year of the Linux desktop is when we get a desktop platform that obscures the fact it’s Linux

[burnt fox]

^ I'm just gonna borrow that statement

[nimble arch]

In all seriousness though, do we really need 10 different desktop environments in the package manager?

[burnt fox]

I view it from the use-scene perspective. You don't use Windows for networking, you don't use Linux for common office stuff, etc

I mean, crowbar kinda works on every lock, but..

[short sequoia]

My a button stoped working on my full and I just received it

Using my phone rn to type lol

[burnt fox]

"stopped working" so did it work at some point?

[short sequoia]

Yeah it did

The started spamming a when I pressed the then just stop

I’ve literally have had this keyboard for 30 mins

[burnt fox]

Had similar feelings when I got my 80

[ashen spindle]

unplug it and plug it back in

[burnt fox]

Disconnect the KB

Give it a good 3 mins to figure itself out

The reason I actually joined this Discord channel was due to that the 80 did nothing once I first got it just to ask for help

[haughty barn]

^

same isue

issue

when i have rapid trigger on it spams wasd

[short sequoia]

yeh now it stoped working

its just typing mode

[haughty barn]

yeah

only typing mode works for me rn

without it tweakin out

[ashen spindle]

check #1019755933959733258 if someone had your issue already or else make a post there so someone cab help you

[serene ruin]

Worth?

[ashen spindle]

ehh quite expensive

[short sequoia]

no one has had my issue

[ashen spindle]

assuming its USD?

[short sequoia]

the (A) button doesnt work

[ashen spindle]

yes I said

or else make a post there so someone can help you

the support channel is where people look to help people with issues, this is more general tech talk

[short sequoia]

it did then started spamming when i pressed it then stoped dont even work

i did put something in there

[unkempt lake]

Guys

my dad wants to buy a 49inch ultrawide for work

i converted him

[serene ruin]

Yes

[ashen spindle]

yeah 300 above msrp doesnt make much sense

[zenith nimbus]

Does anyone know the difference between the wooting 60he and the 80he I’m trying to figure out which one to buy for gaming

[crisp granite]

...size and form factor is the big one

the most meaningful one

[zenith nimbus]

Is there any benefits other than size and form factor? Like component benefits

Thanks for the help

[neon prawn]

the white tax is crazy

[serene ruin]

Should I bid?

still no?

Just $220 above

[ashen spindle]

599$ is the msrp

[serene ruin]

Ik

[ashen spindle]

unless you really need one just wait for cheaper restock at a store

[serene ruin]

Wait for cheaper restock like thats easy

Havent seen a restock all week

[ashen spindle]

yes thats why I said unless you really need one

[vapid tree]

Yeah idk if you need one and won't have any buyers remorse about spending above msrp go for it.

[serene ruin]

I bought my 6800XT for $890

[vapid tree]

These aren't horrible prices esp considering you don't pay tax on marketplaces right?

[serene ruin]

No remorse

[ashen spindle]

I mean if money is no issues get a 5090

[vapid tree]

?

[serene ruin]

Not giving nvidia my money

[neon prawn]

where do you get a 5090, i’ve been looking for weeks

[vapid tree]

How does spending 200 above msrp equal spending 3k+ on a 5090 lol

[crisp granite]

scalped
on ebay

[neon prawn]

scalped is over 3k msrp

[crisp granite]

if you want one even remotely close to MSRP
wait a while

[ashen spindle]

I mean if you just are fine paying 50% above msrp because you cant wait some days money doesnt seem to be an issue when you have a working card already

[neon prawn]

i’ve seen people buying it on amazon tho i wish i was that filthy rich

[serene ruin]

Found one for $10 cheaper 😂

[crisp granite]

...wait a few weeks at this rate

get one at MSRP
at a store

don't support idiots trying to make a mint off of bigger idiots

[serene ruin]

-_- bro says this like its easy finding in store

[ashen spindle]

use sites that track restock and you can get it without bots yes just not super easy

[vapid tree]

It's still a massive value difference, one could spend 200 more but won't be able to spend 2k+ more for months

[crisp granite]

it will be once the initial scalped supply rots while stores restock...

[crisp granite]

or...know someone on the inside

that's how I was able to get my 4080S at launch
at MSRP

[neon prawn]

just call microcenter every day

[serene ruin]

How long you think thatll be tho

[serene ruin]

Because even older cards are difficult to find

[crisp granite]

at most a few months
most likely less

[serene ruin]

My specific 6800XT is sold out everywhere near me

Or being scalped for $1500

XFX Speedster Merc319

[ashen spindle]

I mean personally I just think if you spend 300 more on a 600 card beacuse you cant wait some days when youy pc is fine then money doesnt seem matter

[vapid tree]

Getting any GPU isn't easy rn unless you get a 4060 lol It's just

[neon prawn]

you’re not really upgrading if you’re buying 9070xt above msrp

[dull hollow]

[vapid tree]

That's just very hypocritical no? Besides It's 600+ tax so close to 700 which would only make the difference about 150 at max which a lot of people can afford even without having the "money doesn't matter mindset"

[ashen spindle]

most us states have little to no sales tax

[serene ruin]

That price will easily change during the bidding. The price i sent is buy it now

[dull hollow]

cheapest bin i see here is 789.99 i lied

[vapid tree]

most states are 9% ish which would put it at 660

[dull hollow]

oh this isnt even the xt

[serene ruin]

Oh shit u right

Im dumb

Lol

[dull hollow]

neither was the one you sent earlier

[serene ruin]

Yeah

[dull hollow]

😭

[serene ruin]

Just realized

[neon prawn]

imagine if he bought that

[dull hollow]

so much overpay for a non xt

[unkempt lake]

I mean... it was also a 4080s

They didn't have much excitement about them at launch

Wasn't really scalped all that much

[crisp granite]

same thing with my 3070 four years ago

[dull hollow]

does it have to be the xfx swift? 💀

[crisp granite]

my model specifically was being sold at retailers for 140 CAD above launch msrp within a month of me having it

[unkempt lake]

I mean the 3070 did have more demand behind it

[serene ruin]

I had this one saved I just realized

[unkempt lake]

The 4080 super i mean it was just a price drop because the 4080 sat on shelves and people didn't really rush out to buy them that much as they were still expensive

Great card tho

[dull hollow]

cheapest BIN xfx swift is 925

[serene ruin]

Yeah rip

Newegg has this one up

[unkempt lake]

Yall just need to chill

What are you running currently

@serene ruin

[crisp granite]

and it fits in my tiny case :D

[unkempt lake]

i wonder if my XTX can even fit in it

[crisp granite]

...my PC is the size of an xbox series x and absolutely mauls it in performance

[crisp granite]

too long iirc

mine only fits up to 320mm length

[unkempt lake]

It did cost a lot more tho lol

[crisp granite]

shush

[unkempt lake]

Let me check mine real quick

[crisp granite]

girlkisser

[unkempt lake]

no u

‍Card Dimension (cm) 34.4 x 12.8 x 5.7

the xtx merc is too long

[dull hollow]

theres a reason why this one is still up.. its 270 over msrp before tax

[unkempt lake]

It is... gigantic lol

Hell doesn't include the giant support bracket

@serene ruin you said you have a 6800xt... you don't need an upgrade

You just want one

So take a chill pill

Patience is what matters

Yeah but its not like your previous card was unusable

If the xtx pricing had been fucked you coulda just... been patient

Generally it's pretty simple

Buy at launch at msrp or be patient

One or the other

That's fine

The main thing is not overpaying

You either pay what it's supposed to be or cheaper

[crimson wigeon]

Sounds legit

[ashen spindle]

<@&1098943457654997093> spam bot

[lyric hatch]

Got em

[rough patrol]

Nooo my steam gift card

[dull hollow]

it was a dropshipper ad xd

[rough patrol]

Noooo my business opportunity

[serene ruin]

I want to upgrade lol my choice to make not yours

9070XT will give me proper RT performance

[unkempt lake]

it's just not worth it over MSRP

its not like your card is unusable

[serene ruin]

I got my 6800XT for 890…way over msrp

Im ok with paying $200 over msrp

[unkempt lake]

why didnt you buy a 40 series if you cared this much about RT

they had them on shelves for like

a while

sitting there

[unkempt lake]

brand loyalty to either amd or nvidia is moronic

[ashen spindle]

well you're asking us should you bid/buy, we say no so either wait for prices to settle or buy it because you want to spend money but then you dont need to ask us for feedback xD

[unkempt lake]

0 logic

[serene ruin]

Not giving nvidia my money -_-

[serene ruin]

Thank you

[tight dragon]

AMD + Nvidia = ✅

[unkempt lake]

it's a company

amd doesn't care about you

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/slander-meme-memes-funny-whiteboard-gif-22147047

[unkempt lake]

nvidia doesn't care about you

no company gives a shit

buy the best value at the time

[serene ruin]

Giving a money hungry company that oversells their gpus is the most moronic thing you can do.

[unkempt lake]

giving money to money hungry ebay scalpers is somehow better?

[serene ruin]

AMD gives better price to performance

[ashen spindle]

I mean at these prices the price/perf is worse than nvidia when it was in stock lol

[unkempt lake]

literally

[ashen spindle]

so you waited out of protest for bad value to now get even worse value if you buy it at these prices

[serene ruin]

“When”

Bro speaks about past events like its still relevant

[dull hollow]

????

[serene ruin]

MSRP will ofc always be better

[unkempt lake]

and he's sticking it to nvidia because they're greedy by buying from scalpers who are greedier

[ashen spindle]

you talk about not giving money to nvidia in general, not about not doing it now

[unkempt lake]

its why you ignored deals on 40 series despite wanting RT

[serene ruin]

At msrp, amd shits on nvidia. Try again

[ashen spindle]

I didnt say anything that opposes that idea?

but right now neither are at msrp

[serene ruin]

So your point of me buying something overpriced when everything is overpriced

[unkempt lake]

ok

[serene ruin]

Even at scalper value AMD has better value

[unkempt lake]

you dislike nvidia because they're greedy

yet buy from scalpers which are arguably worse

[lyric hatch]

the point is to wait and not give scalpers any money

[unkempt lake]

people like you are why scalpers exist

[ashen spindle]

my point is you waited just long enough for stuff to be scalped, but not long enough for stock to be back to normal, so buying right now isn't making any sense when you waited before this time due to bad value options

[unkempt lake]

you don't think

you just want to consume so badly driven by hype

[serene ruin]

Everything is scalped up -_- at scalper value AMD is still better choice

Msrp amd is better

Regardless amd is cheaper

[unkempt lake]

doesn't justify buying from a scalper

[serene ruin]

Justifies price to performance

Compared to nvidia

Rather spend $900 than $1500

[ashen spindle]

nobody is disagreeing that amd has better value just that you care for value yet at the same time want to ignore value and buy at inflated prices when it's not like you need a new gpu right now

[tight dragon]

Better to buy now before it’s too late, and I’m so glad I did.

[serene ruin]

Lmao exactly

[ashen spindle]

before its too late for what

[lyric hatch]

if you wait a bit things won't be scalped

[unkempt lake]

you realize that by buying at these prices you're just showing gpu companies you love getting fucked in the ass

[tight dragon]

For prices to increase

[serene ruin]

6800XT are still being scalped. Your point?

[ashen spindle]

why would prices increase

[serene ruin]

6800XTs are still being scalped

[unkempt lake]

no one actually buys those

[lyric hatch]

they aren't made anymore of course they are

[serene ruin]

Doesnt matter. The fact still stands that its being scalped

[ashen spindle]

if you think us does a massive tradeware and puts 50% tarrifs on taiwan sure then maybe it makes sense

[serene ruin]

Old gpus are still being scalped

40 series are still scalped

[unkempt lake]

ok this guy is braindead

[serene ruin]

30s even

[tight dragon]

Inflation and tariffs.

[serene ruin]

This

[unkempt lake]

go back 1 month and shit was on shelves

everywhere

[ashen spindle]

inflation isnt going to suddenly make a msrp 300$ higher lmfao

[unkempt lake]

at LOWER than msrp

[ashen spindle]

25% tarrifs is not making it cost 50% more either

[serene ruin]

Back one month lol. Still speaking past events. Restocks happen 😂

[unkempt lake]

what changed between last month and now

[astral haven]

to fix the first one, buy series i bonds, and to fix the second one, wait 2 weeks, thats how long the tariffs seem to last

[tight dragon]

It’s a big business making thousands of dollars every month/year.

[ashen spindle]

but at this point you are just trying to justify your purchase, so if you want it just buy it you dont need to justify to us how you spend your money

[unkempt lake]

what released that suddently your 6800xt is too shit to play what you want

[ashen spindle]

so? that doesnt change that inflation and tarrifs are % based

[serene ruin]

Nothing. I personally want to upgrade. Its not your choice to make

[unkempt lake]

why didnt you upgrade a month ago then

[serene ruin]

9070xt just released

[unkempt lake]

when shit was below msrp

[ashen spindle]

then why do you ask us if you should buy it???

[dull hollow]

then why ask if you should or should not buy

i dont get your point here

[unkempt lake]

I don't think its worth arguing with a mindless fanboy

[serene ruin]

Lmao

[dull hollow]

3060 sells for 200-225 on ebay bought it for ~425 years back, im not sure where the scalping thing is coming from

[unkempt lake]

guy can't make his own opinions are is swept up by hype

new thing must consume

[astral haven]

they just want positive affirmation for a decision they havent even made yet, usually the folks wait until after they have made the mistake to do that but...

[serene ruin]

New and better yes

[unkempt lake]

nothing changed between a month and now

its why you ignored the 40 series on sale

and 70 series on sale you dont need them you never needed them in the first place you just care about owning the shiny new thing not about value lol

and if you say not giving nvidia my money its a stupid take

no company loves you

or gives a shit about you

you just get what's best value brand loyalty is some of the most moronic crap out there

[dull hollow]

ill admit i made a poor choice to buy a 9070xt at 760 when i had the chance to a different one at 600 and i wouldnt give you crap for shitting on me for it but i liked the design more

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

but its not like it was getting any cheaper since it was from microcenter

[astral haven]

i didnt see you begging for affirmation for it...

[dull hollow]

and im not paying a scalper

[ashen spindle]

if you want to pay more for looks thats fine, thats value to people

[unkempt lake]

aesthetics do technically have a value to the right people

[ashen spindle]

if you want an all white pc and theres only one white sku you wont have much choice for example

[unkempt lake]

i personnaly dont mind paying like... 100cad more than reference for a better cooler

but there's an oimprovement its called noise reduction

there's something tangible

if you're stuck hearing those fans for 5 years and you hate the way they sound you're just gonna want to get rid of the thing

[ashen spindle]

if you want a specific look, or a specifi card for OC due to pcb or bios limits etc. thats all fine, if you just want any card, spending so much you could almost buy a 5080 makes little sense lol

if your gpu is broken that also makes more sense to overpay if you dont want to play on an igpu etc.

[unkempt lake]

Example i'd never buy a reference 7900xtx because i think they're too damn noisy

[astral haven]

i know that i dont care about aesthetics, my pc : case price ratio was 1000:1, and no i didnt spend anywhere near 50 grand on my computer

[dull hollow]

im quite happy with the purchase and performance of it, i wouldnt need it

[unkempt lake]

i used the same case from 2012 to 2020, an old corsair 350d, then my mobo died and i had to do a full rebuild so i swapped cases for a new one while i was at it

[serene ruin]

Why would I upgrade 1 generation? Thats like upgrading your phone every year for barely any increase in performance. Thats just dumb

[astral haven]

what are these fancy cases with "model numbers"

[serene ruin]

9070XT gives me true RT performance

[unkempt lake]

So would have a 40 series

[serene ruin]

And its an actual jump in performance

[unkempt lake]

A 40 series woulda been an actual jump on performance

[serene ruin]

With barely any performance bump -_-

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-tuf/images/relative-performance-rt-1920-1080.png

oops

[unkempt lake]

Your arguments make no sense

Coulda bought a 4070 ti on clearance

Or a ti super

Literally woulda been cheaper

[serene ruin]

So 7900XTX js the best option. Thanks

[astral haven]

unless you rt in which case more like 4080s

[serene ruin]

Rather performance over RT

[serene ruin]

Imma get the 7900xtx actually thanks for that graph

[unkempt lake]

Why didn't you buy them when they were 830usd

On clearance

If you needed the performance jump that much

:)

[astral haven]

nice to see you changed your mind 👍

[serene ruin]

Maybe i didnt feel like upgrading till now??

[dull hollow]

your whole point was RT performance....

[serene ruin]

Are you dumb? No it was t

I simply stated 9070xt gives me RT

So thats a plus

Never said its my main thing

[dull hollow]

...

[lyric hatch]

you said it was your reason for upgrading though...

[serene ruin]

I will always have price to performance

[lyric hatch]

here

[serene ruin]

…

Read that again

[lyric hatch]

im reading

[serene ruin]

Proper RT performance is a plus

Exactly 😂

Idk where you dont understand

[serene ruin]

…

[serene ruin]

…

Its a plus

Not my main reason

My choice to upgrade was this week

[dull hollow]

you specified rt performance earlier and now youre just changing it to fit the situation

[serene ruin]

Not last month when things were on sale

[unkempt lake]

Only if you don't buy from a scalper

[serene ruin]

Everything is scalped up. Try again

[unkempt lake]

Because you want to consume

Because of hype

[serene ruin]

No because I decided

[unkempt lake]

You're a sheep

Lol

[serene ruin]

Didnt even know 9070xt released recently

[lyric hatch]

alright well you're free to upgrade but I don't think you're going to get the validation you wanted from us on whether it is a "good" purchase right now

[astral haven]

how about you change your mind and buy a savings bond or put money in a bank account?

[serene ruin]

Sheep is all of you with that hive mind

When you’re too retarded to believe people do things on their own free will

Didnt even know the 9070 existed

Thought they were doing 8000 series

[unkempt lake]

Suddently you want one tho

You're just like those people who buy new phones every year

[serene ruin]

Because its the most newest one that actually gives me 2 gen of upgrade?

[unkempt lake]

Not really as we said previously a discounted 70 series or 40 series woulda done the trick

[serene ruin]

But I will go with 7900XTX instead after the graph

[astral haven]

they dont have an 8 tier in 9000 series so no

[unkempt lake]

You're getting 1 gen of upgrade

[serene ruin]

No exactly

I thought it was going to be like 8800 or wtv

Then saw it was renamed

[serene ruin]

Worry about your own pocket buddy

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/lilnouns-nouns-lil-nouns-dao-noggles-gif-27131043

[unkempt lake]

So the 70 series was fine and thie im getting 2 gens of improvement was a bogus argument

[magic minnow]

What are we buying

[dull hollow]

he wants to get a scalped 9070xt

[unkempt lake]

Tickets to the takalicious has a mental breakdown

[serene ruin]

You love contradicting yourself dont you

[magic minnow]

Ah I wouldn’t if you can get an XTX honestly

At msrp

[serene ruin]

Yeah imma get 7900XTX instead

[lyric hatch]

Both aren't going to be for MSRP rn

[unkempt lake]

By pointing out your contradictions yes

[serene ruin]

Thats okay

My pocket anyways

🤝

[unkempt lake]

Then why are you here in the first plsce

What was the point of asking

[serene ruin]

You showed me better options so it worked in my favor regardless

Thanks

[astral haven]

I really hate upgrading when its not a huge jump, 40 series was good but it cant run my monitor yet properly, 7000 was more of the same, and 50 series well...
and dont get me started on cpus now

[dull hollow]

generational ragebait

[lyric hatch]

If you want the better RT I'd still go for the 9070 xt

[dull hollow]

[lyric hatch]

Depends on scalped prices though

[dull hollow]

from what im seeing on ebay, the xtx is 50-100 more than the xt

[astral haven]

https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/trends/2025.03.15.gpu.chipset.radeon-rx-7900-xtx.15e9e048feaf0fb3846d4afd5e33f519.png

[lyric hatch]

And then RT is a decent difference

[magic minnow]

Real

[frozen ingot]

before skype, there was ICQ and IRC

IRC is the true forefather of discord, slack etc

[empty wren]

Rest in peace splinter

[bright briar]

ventrilo👀

[hasty surge]

Hi guys,
So this is the build I’m going for:
7800 xt gpu
7800x3d cpu
Msi b650m gaming WiFi mobo
32gb 6000mts cl30 g skill trident
1 tb Samsung 990pro
Noctua d15 cooler
Lianli lancool 215x
Psu 750w 80+ gold certified(msi)

Please let me know if I should change something

1.4k usd

[unkempt lake]

Only thing i'd change is the 990 pro and also the 7800x3d idk how much you're paying for it

[hasty surge]

350$

New

[unkempt lake]

I expected worse price wise

[hasty surge]

Is it bad? Since some websites sell it for around 450$ but I got it for around 350$ on a website/physical store

[unkempt lake]

If you do want to stretch your budget a little i'd try putting a 9800x3d in there but idk how strict you are with your budget

350 is fine

[hasty surge]

That’s around 500$

[unkempt lake]

I expected it to be super close to a 9800x3d in pricing

Ye you got the 7800x3d cheap enough thay its fine

[hasty surge]

I still didn’t buy it

Since I’m not sure if the gpu cpu combo go together

[unkempt lake]

Some people pay like... 450$ for 7800x3ds but at that point you're almost at a 9800x3d for 475$

[unkempt lake]

Oh its a perfectly fine conbo

Combo

Really the only change i'd make is the 990 pro

Most 990 pros i've seen are way iverpriced

[hasty surge]

Is the performance difference a lot? Between the 9800 and 7800, since at this point I thought I probably will need to upgrade the gpu only in the future

[unkempt lake]

I'd say try to get a cheaper ssd snd get a 9800x3d

[hasty surge]

Yeah, 990 pro is around 100$ and Kingston gen4 is around 60$ but what’s the difference really?

[unkempt lake]

Samsung 990pro is one of the fastest drives around but the thing is unless you're some pro content creator who constantly reads and writes... the speedbump is whatever

For gaming its not enough of a change to be worth it

[hasty surge]

I mean then I need a good motherboard and a good cooler, no?

X670 or something

[unkempt lake]

The motherboard is fine for a 9800x3d

[hasty surge]

The guy who builds this said the 9800x3d needs a good motherboard as well, if you want to overclock it

[unkempt lake]

Only reason to get x series is if you need the io

[unkempt lake]

The vrms on the b series board are fine

It's mostly about io

And mobo features

If you're just gaming B series is fine

Hell its easier to cool than a 7800x3d lol

[hasty surge]

And what about cooler? Since he said you 100% need the aio since they tested it on a lot of 9800x3ds

[unkempt lake]

And i'm using a noctua u12a o mine

[hasty surge]

Really?

[unkempt lake]

9800x3d runs cooler than a 7800x3d

Yes because they moved the 3d vcsche location

[hasty surge]

He’s not my friend

[unkempt lake]

Its now a lot easier to cool than before

[hasty surge]

What about 9800x3d+7800xt

Or do I need a better gpu

[unkempt lake]

That's perfectly fine

No

Rn 7800xt is a good value

[hasty surge]

Oh that’s because they make these custom pcs for others, and this was said to me by like 3 people

[unkempt lake]

Well i built pcs for others before

Worked in a pc repair shop for years

[hasty surge]

Oh also can I get the 7900gre instead?

[unkempt lake]

I have a comp sci degree

[hasty surge]

Only 4k difference

In my currency

So that’s like 40$

[unkempt lake]

4k??

They still have gres?

That's surprising

[hasty surge]

Yeah

It’s new

[unkempt lake]

They've been unobtainium for ages elsewhere

Out of stock

[hasty surge]

I mean there’s loads here

Ranging from 500-600$

[unkempt lake]

Guessing you live in a fairly low income country?

Probably why its still on shelves

[hasty surge]

But I’m not actually not so sure since the 7800xt nitro exists

[unkempt lake]

But hey lucky you because they've been out of stock forever elsewhere

[unkempt lake]

7900gre will be faster than a 7800xt nitro

[hasty surge]

And the 7900gre consists of like 2 fans

I’m not sure if that makes any difference

[unkempt lake]

But... do you have the 9070xt around

[hasty surge]

It’s impossible to get that for 600$

It’s already out of stock

[unkempt lake]

Go gre

If you can buy a gre that's an amazing card and 2 fans is enough

[hasty surge]

And the ones who sell it are selling it for like 900$

[unkempt lake]

Ok do

Same build you have but get a cheaper ssd

Bump to the gre and the 9800x3d

[hasty surge]

What about ram

[unkempt lake]

The rest was fine

[hasty surge]

Should I get 16 or 32

[unkempt lake]

32

[hasty surge]

G skill?

[unkempt lake]

With ram brand doesn't really matter. What matters is the specs

They all use the same memory chips

[hasty surge]

What’s the difference between flare trident and rip jaws

[unkempt lake]

The heatspreader/looks

What matters is you pick 6000 cl30

Gskill corsair whatever its all the same

They all use memory chips from hynix micron samsung

They don't actually make the ram they just solder it onto a board and add a nice metal heatspreader

So just go with the cheapest option thats 6000cl30

That's the part that matters

[hasty surge]

Is this good?

[unkempt lake]

Is the ram cl30?

If you scroll down

Do you see something called cas latency

[hasty surge]

It’s not mentioned actually

[dull hollow]

odd of them not to mention it

it might be cl36 as it is in most bundles (based on microcenter, us)

[hasty surge]

They did mention it here but it’s a different combo

[unkempt lake]

Even if it was cl36 it may still be fine if the price is decent

But cl30 is preferable

[dull hollow]

how much is this in usd?

[hasty surge]

Around 700$

[unkempt lake]

Also i looked up the asus board

For ryzen 7 it's fine, just not good enough for a ryzen 9

The vrms are a little weak on that model

[dull hollow]

thats in line with how much micro center is selling it here but different motherbaord

[unkempt lake]

For a 9800x3d no problem tho

Just don't put a 9950 on that

[hasty surge]

I probably will never need a ryzen 9 since I probably wont need any productivity

[unkempt lake]

Then it's fine

The vrms are good enough for a ryzen 7

[hasty surge]

Msi b650m gaming WiFi motherboard?

Since they are pretty much the same price

[unkempt lake]

I was talking about the asus

The msi has better vrms

[hasty surge]

Yeah I’m talking about msi

[unkempt lake]

You were showing us the combo w the asus

[hasty surge]

So I think I should ditch the combo since all I’ll save is like 80$

[unkempt lake]

The msi is fine

Better than the asus

[hasty surge]

What does vrms actually do

[unkempt lake]

But still only for ryzen 7

[unkempt lake]

Vrms are what give power to the cpu

The better they are at staying cool, the more power you can draw

If you want a good inexpensive bosrd

That's better vrm wise than both of yhose

[hasty surge]

So it does matter, will the performance be capped at something because of this motherboard? Or will be performance be maxed out

[unkempt lake]

And can handle a ryzen 9

[unkempt lake]

Only if you use a ryzen 9

[hasty surge]

What about the 9800x3d

[unkempt lake]

Perfrctly fine

[hasty surge]

So it will display maximum performance?

[unkempt lake]

Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2

[hasty surge]

And do you think the Kingstongen4 1tb nvme is good?

[unkempt lake]

That board

Is an amazing value

And you can put a ryzen 9 on it

It punched way above its class

[hasty surge]

Damn it’s around 100$

[unkempt lake]

Its a really awesome board

They put the money into the vrms

While keeping the price good

[hasty surge]

So the 9800x3d can be utilized fully using this?

[unkempt lake]

Yep

You can even put a ryzen 9 in

[hasty surge]

But it can with the other boards too right

[unkempt lake]

Yes for a ruzen 9

Its just the vrms on this one are really good while still being afforable

[hasty surge]

No I was saying the Msi and Asus boards can keep up too right using the 9800x3d and utilize it fully

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[hasty surge]

So can I just take whatever is available

[unkempt lake]

This is more if you want to pop in a ryzen 9 in the future

For some reason

Thought i'd show you a b board than can handle it

:)

[hasty surge]

I’ll try to get this for sure

[unkempt lake]

But yes any of the option shown would work

I just like this one

[hasty surge]

I just want raw performance

Don’t care about aesthetics or anything

[unkempt lake]

Well this what's nice is if in a few years you buy a ryzen 9 used or whatever

[hasty surge]

Also I’m investing like 1000$ on an oled monitor, that’s alright, no?

[unkempt lake]

Or get a good deal

Then you can plop it in if you want

[hasty surge]

Since I physically witnessed the drastic difference between ips and oled

[unkempt lake]

Oled is nice if you just game

I work from home and game so i use mini led instead

[hasty surge]

I mean I’ll probably just game

[unkempt lake]

Ye then its worth going oled

[hasty surge]

Yeah

I’m going for the Asus 480hz 1440p monitor

I don’t want a 4k I don’t think my pc can run that

[unkempt lake]

behold... my monitor

[dull hollow]

oled very nice for gaming and movies

[hasty surge]

I won’t be only playing Val tho I’ll be trying new games too

[hasty surge]

Why’s it so big-

Isn’t that like 49 or something

[dull hollow]

yeah

[unkempt lake]

yes lol

[hasty surge]

I don’t think 49 will be great for comp games tbh

[unkempt lake]

I don't play those

[hasty surge]

And curved is the worst for anything below 32

[unkempt lake]

I play single player stuff

And i work

[hasty surge]

No I’m talking about myself

[unkempt lake]

So for me this is heaven

[hasty surge]

Yeah I agree

[dull hollow]

what size is it? personally i think 1440p is great for 27”

[astral haven]

its fiiiiine on 27

[hasty surge]

Same

[unkempt lake]

LMAO

exactly since i don't have that i just show off my monitor

[hasty surge]

Huh? What about distortion? Flat 27 inch is better tho

I was planning to get a 27 inch 1440p 480hz monitor flat

[astral haven]

i had a flat 27 and a curved at the same time, after a while you get used to the curve, and then you notice the distortion on the flat one

[dull hollow]

whats the price difference of 360hz for you?

[hasty surge]

Around 200$

[hasty surge]

But what qd oled monitor has that feature tho, I might get that then

[coral girder]

Whats a good ultrawide oled for arround 700-800

[astral haven]

im more just saying dont let a curve stop you from saving a few hundred bucks if available

[hasty surge]

Oh yeah 100%

If it saves me money I’ll surely get that

[dull hollow]

the older g9s are around that price, only up to 120hz or 144 tho

[hasty surge]

But I think there’s no monitor(qdoled) which is curved at 27inches and has a refresh rate of 360/480

[coral girder]

Wbt like 34 inches

[dull hollow]

lemme look it up, been a while since ive looked at monitors

[astral haven]

seems like it

[dull hollow]

what refresh rate are you aiming towards?

144/240/360

seems like people like the Alienware AW3423DWF (1440p 144hz ~650)

[coral girder]

Prob 240

[unkempt lake]

Did you want uw or super uw

[dull hollow]

im assuming super uw

normal uw is 32” right?

[unkempt lake]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1865695-REG/msi_mpg_491cqpx_qd_oled_mpg_491cqpx_qd_49_oled_curved.html

Cheaper than samsung and uses the same panel

Rn brand new for super uw oled 240hz its nice

[dull hollow]

he said he wanted 34”

[unkempt lake]

Oh

[dull hollow]

sorry i got confused

[unkempt lake]

Lol

Yeah no super uw is 32:9

Uw is 21:9

[dull hollow]

https://www.amazon.com/LG-34GS95QE-UltraGear-DisplayHDR-DisplayPort/dp/B0CV27X9K7

https://us-store.msi.com/Monitors/Gaming-Monitors/MPG-341CQPX-QD-OLED?srsltid=AfmBOorp-KwXnstWIUgD4U4GmTt6i1JF4fgigiIh7Jnol7yBnVqPj3asm0g&gQT=0

[coral girder]

Oh this looks pretty good

Whats the difference between oled and qd-oled

Heard qd oled turns like magenta when in light

[serene ruin]

Hey sorry to bring this up again but before answer me please understand Idc if im overpaying for a gpu by 200. If I find a 9070XT cheaper than 7900XTX just go for a 9070XT? I mainly care for performance over RT but having RT would be a nice bonus

Not trying to argue about pricing just genuinely want to know which gpu to really aim for

~$100 cheaper

[coral girder]

Well 9070 xt is like impossible to find rn

[serene ruin]

Just the hypothetical situation i mean

Go for the 9070XT or the 7900XTX?

Like if u had them in front of you, the 9070XT is cheaper by $100. Which are you picking

[coral girder]

9070 xt i like ray tracing

[serene ruin]

Gotcha i see ok

[dull hollow]

a bunch of 9070 xts can be found for less than the xtx but really only like 50-100 less

[serene ruin]

Nah yeah i understand this

[coral girder]

9070 xt can beat 5080 if u undervolt i head

*heard

[serene ruin]

Which would you pick tho?

If u had to choose

[serene ruin]

Oooh interesting

[coral girder]

Xfx merc rgb one

[dull hollow]

up to you to decide if 3% perf bonus is worth (non rt) and -3% for rt games

[serene ruin]

No yeah i was looking at that

[dull hollow]

of course undervolting is available for both cards

[serene ruin]

Makes me lean a bit on 9070XT idk

Regardless of my decision itll beat my 6800XT so both are upgrades

[dull hollow]

ive been able to run my gigabyte aorus at 60% of its tdp (340w -> ~200)

[serene ruin]

Might go for 9070XT

[dull hollow]

not much of a performance hit

[serene ruin]

Trying to sell my 6800XT

But idk how long thatll take tbh

Its the xfx speedster merc319

[coral girder]

I like the gigabyte aero and aorus cards

Only reason i still use nvidia

[serene ruin]

Think setting it at $600 is a good price for it?

Its not found anywhere

[dull hollow]

im not sure, look at recent sales on ebay or smth

[serene ruin]

Over $1000 lol

[coral girder]

Arround 500 600 is a good price for used

[serene ruin]

Thats the price for them

[unkempt lake]

oh no he's back

[dull hollow]

shh

[serene ruin]

Look already stated that I understand my choices. No need for that energy anymore

Not looking to argue my man

Just trying to talk components

[unkempt lake]

that can do

as long as its not validation you're looking for

[dull hollow]

im selling my old gpu to fund a new case and some fans, it isnt worth much anymore lol

[serene ruin]

Just trying to sell my gpu just to make some sort of money back lol

But i listed mine already for $600 starting bid

[dull hollow]

3060 sells for 200-225 used on ebay, might sell it to a friend or sell it locally

[serene ruin]

Now imma wait

And see

[unkempt lake]

the xtx is nice if you wanna dabble into some vram heavy stuff

or plan on playing at a really hi res

[serene ruin]

Just nervous about having to ship it. Always am nervous when shipping expensive shit

[unkempt lake]

that 24gb framebuffer is really nice for 4k

[serene ruin]

Whats ur takeaway on my question actually since u own a 7900XTX

[dull hollow]

local cash is better and more preferable imo

[serene ruin]

Would u keep ur 7900XTX or grab a 9070XT?

[unkempt lake]

if i had the choice for my current setup i'd still go XTX for the 24gb of vram because i play at 5120x1440

[serene ruin]

Ah ok

[unkempt lake]

if you never plan on gaming as such hi resolutions

then the XT would be better

[serene ruin]

Is that extra 8gb really that much better?

[dull hollow]

a 9070xt is sufficient for me cause i play normal 1440p

[serene ruin]

Me too

[unkempt lake]

all depends on the games you play and the resolution

at this high of a res 16gb is a bit tight

its fine

but some games can push over it

its starting

[serene ruin]

Cod, R6, Gta, Fortnite, Some single player games like elden ring, wukong

[dull hollow]

i dont have many of the newer games, majority of my library is like 2020-2022

[unkempt lake]

i play mostly newer stuff but let me give you an example

space marines 2

that game's textures at this res can easily use 20gb of vram

with everything cranked

[serene ruin]

Space marine 2 actually runs really well on my 6800XT. Easy 90fps at 1440p

[unkempt lake]

yeah but its vram hungry

with the hi res textures

[serene ruin]

Never felt any issue tho with my 16gb

[unkempt lake]

they're optional but they look awesome

did you install them? also remember im talking about 4k

not 1440p

[serene ruin]

Ooooh 4k

Nvm

Makes sense

[unkempt lake]

i play on super ultrawide

5120x1440

[serene ruin]

Ok so at 1440p the 9070XT should be my pick then?

[unkempt lake]

pixel count is like 12% from 4k

yeah

[serene ruin]

Awesome thanks

[lyric hatch]

Does it really though or is that just how much is being allocated

[unkempt lake]

the texture pack is an add on

released after

separate dl

people were complaining of muddy textures with the og pack

[lyric hatch]

An add on that uses over 12GB of vram?

[unkempt lake]

yep

lol

they do look really fucking crisp tho

[serene ruin]

The first time i read this i only saw 1440 and just assumed it was 1440p lol. Forgot u have a wide ass monitor

[unkempt lake]

my poor game size tho

[serene ruin]

How is it gaming on ultra wide

[unkempt lake]

storage be gone!

[unkempt lake]

runs everything i throw at it

[serene ruin]

My gf sisters husband has a 34inch and that thing gives me motion sickness

Max i can do is 32

[unkempt lake]

i have a 49 inch

[lyric hatch]

I mean recommended specs for it is a 4070 super I think you'll be fine at 16GB

[serene ruin]

Sheesh

[unkempt lake]

as i said it goes over in allocation but its tight

like real tight

[unkempt lake]

big

[lyric hatch]

I mean that's a 12GB card

[unkempt lake]

i know

im saying at 4k you can get right up to 16gb

at 1440p 12gb is fine

for this game

and welp... if you look at indiana jones

that game really hogs vram

wonder how much vram the new doom is gonna hog

but my point is 16gb for 4k would be a bit eh

for 1440p awesome

but for 4k i'd still go xtx again

which btw indiana jones is an awesome game and more people should play it

[dull hollow]

my input on older games (as if 2020-2022 is old), it works pretty well

fh5 semi max settings with med rt got ~130fps (when the game actually worked)

apex is ~220-240, after extreme undervolting its more like 200-230

marvel rivals wasnt effected much by the undervolt, staying at 240fps

uhhh im definitely leaving a lot out

minds blanking

[lyric hatch]

Eh even in Indiana Jones there are 16GB cards that beat the xtx in performance at 4k Ultra with RT

I don't think vram is the issue

Well guess what pumps out vram usage

[unkempt lake]

The game has forced rt on

Haven't even touched the pathtracing mode it wasn't working on amd back then

It was greyed out lol

They just recently allowed it with the far4 patch

Also again i didn't say 16gb is not enough

[unkempt lake]

I just said its a bit tight

Especially considering the future

Kinda sucks having a nice minitor and having to drop your textures

I keep my gpus a few years so i'd rather have the vram than not have it

Also it can be fun for welp running an si model on it

For fun

Cuz welp... fun little project are fun

[lyric hatch]

I mean reality is if you game at 4k is new games aren't going to run on an old card as well you will have to turn down other settings more often then needing to turn down textures to keep performance

[unkempt lake]

Textures make a massive difference visually

Its the last thing i'd wanna drop

[lyric hatch]

How much difference does ultra to high really make in the majority of video games?

[unkempt lake]

Texture wise it's pretty big, other effects not so much

Also depends on the artstyle of the game but games wirh a realistic artstyle benefit nicely

[grizzled prism]

they are doing this shit in my country now. my phone supports it but because it’s not on their whitelist they just unregistered my IMS

[sharp badger]

https://www.techspot.com/article/2338-ultra-vs-high-settings/ They should revisit this but there's quite a lot of games which people play now

[serene ruin]

Will my Ryzen 9 5900X get bottlenecked with a 9070XT?

[digital cliff]

that's not a thing

you are misunderstanding how pc parts and performance works

one part doesn't make the other be a bottleneck or vice versa just because it's a bigger number

in reality your game is always limited by some component in some capacity because it would be extremely unlikely and fortunate if your CPU was able to process its stuff exactly at the same pace as GPU is processing its stuff

some games ask more of your GPU in which case your CPU is chilling a little bit, for other games it's the opposite

a 5900X is still quite alright for most games, especially if you're playing on higher settings in a GPU-limited scenario like newer singleplayer games

if you want to just play the zoomer shooters at 1080p you probably rather want to upgrade the CPU

[unkempt lake]

A game like helldivers 2 will leave him cpu bound

But its just helldivers 2 taking a shit ton of cpu power

But it really shouldn't cause any issues for most games

All depends on what's being played

Some games are cpu dependent, some are gpu dependent

[unkempt lake]

9700k+7900xtx at a crazy hi res was gpu bound in most single player titles besides like... cyberpunk but that's just thr crowd densitiy setting

[raw zephyr]

i just found my original logitech superlight after many years, it's completely yellowed out 😲

[digital cliff]

you smoke too much

[raw zephyr]

i was trying to find the gpx2, but it's nowhere to be seen

i think i lent it to somebody

[grizzled night]

Is there a site or something where I can download profiles for my 80he

[raw zephyr]

you can try your luck here https://wootabase.com/

[nimble arch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/1jbiyfq/steamos_370_preview_released/

• Updated to a newer Arch Linux base
• Updated the Linux kernel to 6.11
• Updated the Mesa graphics driver base
• Desktop mode now ships with Plasma 6.2.5
• Beginnings of support for non-Steam Deck handhelds

[crimson wigeon]

Amazing they actually put a newer base on there

[nimble arch]

One LTS kernel release out of date though

Almost one LTS behind even, the newest isn't officially released yet.

[coral girder]

Is the 9800x3d really worth it?

Like at 4k or 1440p theres not much of a difference

9700x

No im looking to buy a new pc

Gpus are impossible to find tho 😭

Im getting a rx 9070 xt tho

i feel like 500 gpu and 650 cpu is a bit imbalanced

Imma have to play with integrated graphics for a while theres no gpus 😭

[reef patrol]

iGPU beats no GPU.

[nimble arch]

AMD iGPUs are great for, err, OSRS

[distant tapir]

I'm in the same boat as you. Mostly because I just can't afford the one I want though

[old marlin]

Does not hurt to have one tho

[distant tapir]

Been playing Dark Souls 3 lately with igpu. Runs upwards of 60 fps on low settings 768p

[distant tapir]

They work well for PS1/2 emulation too

[severe phoenix]

They also run Warframe great

Like 1080p60fps

[wheat yacht]

I had my dream GPU

But I had to sell it

https://tenor.com/view/sad-monkey-gif-7617358462219751730

[blissful niche]

Does anyone have a separate numpad recommendation suitable for the 80he? 🕵️

[nimble arch]

https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-retro-18-mechanical-numpad

[coral girder]

I was gonna get a 5070 ti or 9070 xt but stock is non existent

Now iust stuck with 9800x3d

should i just get like a 4060 ti until the stocl comes back?

[steady sail]

or just wait

[vale pilot]

personally very happy with my 7900xtx, dont see a reason why you shouldnt buy that, if you have a 9800x3d

guess it comes down to whether you want raster performance or if you wanna use dlss and frame gen 2x for your games

[coral girder]

Believe it or not i dont mind using rt or dlss

And xtx is like 1500 rn

[digital cliff]

that's not a thing

#🔌│tech message here's what I wrote to the last person asking

like parts don't become worse just because the other part is better

just depends on the usecase but realistically any modern cpu and any modern gpu will make just a fine pair for mixed use

unless you like go out of your way to buy a 3k GPU and 50€ CPU, then maybe you have to re-evaluate your choices a little bit

[lyric hatch]

kind of a thing if you can upgrade your gpu and save on the cpu - gpu is pretty much always going to be the bigger upgrade

[steady sail]

thats why im on this

[digital cliff]

ah finally we don't have to hear about your gpu struggles

[steady sail]

now u can hear about my cpu struggle xD

nah but im fine

[digital cliff]

yeah the 58x3d is gonna be fine for a while still

it's almost as good as 78x3d which is almost as good as 98x3d

[nimble arch]

Needs some Arch Linux 😉

[steady sail]

no

tho i would switch to linux if games work

[marsh glade]

Akko is next going to realize that they're getting more frames and now need to spend 2 years researching and pondering the perfect new monitor... 😛

[steady sail]

[nimble arch]

I'll pick an OLED monitor just as the Tendom OLEDs release

[steady sail]

oled is not for me xd

as i tend to stay on a website for hours xd

[nimble arch]

Same

No burn in on my C2 42" though

[ashen spindle]

Almost reaching the point of being out of burn in warranty so 3 years on mine and there isn’t really burn in

[wild coyote]

fr, tried to get Star Citizen working but the downloads from the RSI launcher decided to troll me and give me errors 😭

[steady sail]

i play cods and r6 with friends soo yeah im gonna stay on windoge

[hidden island]

Hello can someone help me ??

[thick elk]

Still a bit cautious with oled myself. Spend a lot of time behind my desk using exclusively light themes. and relatively a lot of web pages.
Probably not as bad a use as hardware unboxed test, mostly lower brightness and a bit less time, but still not the easiest use for it.

Maybe I should, got to spend that work money someday, keep underspending it.

[hidden island]

Why if I live in canary islands why in the Page Shop i get the iva of spain, and dont the IGIC

🫠🫠

[marsh glade]

The Canary Islands are part of Spain

Shopify is only capable of managing markets for tax purposes based on country. Even though the Canary Islands isn't part of VAT, Spain as a whole is and therefore it is not possible to purchase excluding VAT even though it's likely that you will be charged tax at the time of import.

[steady sail]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/128300847 i mean i had my fun

[vagrant pagoda]

It could do it because it does us state taxes fine, you'd think they could apply that to other countries

[marsh glade]

Reasonable assumption, alas...

[coral girder]

No its not that like i'd much rather spend more on a good gpu and a decent cpu becuase 1440p and 4k are more gpu intensive not talking about bottlenecks or anything

[fair gull]

i see this is part of the long running series of shopify actually has a lot of caviats and sucks in many small ways if you actually use it internationally in any larger scale

[ashen spindle]

plenty of games are still cpu limited at 4k so it completely depends on what you play

I need like double my cpu performance from my 9800x3d before the gpu even starts to work a lot lol

[coral girder]

Im using int graphics rn gpus are too hard to find 😭

[fair gull]

still need to plan the next pc component purchase

prob wont go another 4090 for my gf but 9070xt

[coral girder]

Good luck finding even a 40 series gpu

[fair gull]

oh thats no issue

[coral girder]

U live near microcenter?

[fair gull]

more than enough listings on marketplaces and ebay

[fair gull]

i dont live in the us

[coral girder]

Oh

[fair gull]

either way main issue is the price to get a 4090

[coral girder]

Wouldn't recomend getting a 4090 off ebay or marketplaces

Like arround $600+ i wouldn't buy used

[vagrant pagoda]

Eh I've bought 50+ used GPUs and everything that is 5 years or newer has been fine

Only old shit is iffy

Just film opening it and furmark it right after

eBay has good protection

[marsh glade]

I support that notion fully. Especially immediately after a cyclical crypto mining boom - loads of great cards for sale at bottom of the barrel pricing

Don't listen to naysayers who claim that it's a bad idea to buy cards used for crypto mining because they're "abused" or ran into the ground, that does not hold up to reality.

A card used for gaming heats up to extreme temperatures and then cools back down to room temperature over and over and over, which is far more stressful to the card than a card which has been running at a stable constant temperature for months or years on end

[dull hollow]

@unkempt lake BMW is on a generational throw like what is this

after all the success of the f & g series (although the g series took people a but longer to like) they decide to pull this shit

[verbal nimbus]

Has anyone tried remarkable?

[dull hollow]

all because they hired a guy to design BMWs like theyre Rolls Royce and you can see it on sone of the current cars like the new 5 & 7 series and the IX suv

[marsh glade]

What don't you like about that style?

I'm not a fan of the color and the lack of a proper view is annoying, but the style seems nice

[halcyon moss]

Better than the huge nostrils

[marsh glade]

I was going to caption the meme to make it relevant to the conversation, but actually nah it stands on its own perfectly fine as-is

[dull hollow]

im assuming this is either the 4 or 8 series of BMWs and the bodylines just doesnt fit either of those

[marsh glade]

I'm not sure I follow

But I don't know jack shit about cars

[dull hollow]

[frozen ingot]

bmw design has been a meme for some time now

they're basically a dead brand to me

[dull hollow]

like i said earlier, they hired a guy who wanted to design RR instead of BMWs and now he got his promotion to RR, theres 2 new designers for BMW

[frozen ingot]

everything that made bmw great and unique has been gone for a long time

[dull hollow]

but theyre still gonna use the RR’s guys design for the next few cars

[frozen ingot]

like sticking to rwd and naturally aspirated engines

they're just another computer on wheels brand now

[dull hollow]

its just the enforcement of moving towards electrification

its killing everything

[frozen ingot]

yeah I feel so demoralized with modern motoring I feel like I may as well buy a chinese car

[dull hollow]

the new M5 is like 5000+lbs because of a forced hybrid system

[marsh glade]

Did this ever turn into a real car? This is hideous to me

[dull hollow]

yes its the i8

[frozen ingot]

sort of, without the led grill

production variant looks slightly less flamboyant

[dull hollow]

im pretty sure the i8 is still in production

[frozen ingot]

https://issimi-vehicles-cdn.b-cdn.net/publicamlvehiclemanagement/VehicleDetails/491/timestamped-1707392181491-2014BMWi8-1.jpg?width=3840&quality=75

[marsh glade]

This is somewhat better yea, the unnecessarily fat backend is gone at least

[frozen ingot]

production i8

[dull hollow]

not sure whos buying but its existed for this long..

[frozen ingot]

still not really an eye pleaser but compared to what they put out now its a beauty

[dull hollow]

ive come to like the g series, it isnt too bad (mostly because ive seen it around so much)

but yeah at the start, those front grills definitely threw everyone off

[marsh glade]

I mean it could be worse

[frozen ingot]

https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/201609/P90236607/P90236607-the-bmw-m3-csl-e46-09-2016-2250px.jpg

[dull hollow]

they also killed the M2 with that boxy front, im still not used to it

[frozen ingot]

this was like the last time bmw made pretty cars

yes I'm old

[marsh glade]

And then you take "worse" and make it even worse

[frozen ingot]

car design kinda peaked in the late 90s and early 00s to me, after that its mostly gotten more bloated and vulgar

[halcyon moss]

The i8 I've seen in Amsterdam a Couple of times

[frozen ingot]

and every damn car with a front end looking pissed off

am tired of it

[dull hollow]

https://canautoperformance.com/cdn/shop/articles/M3_Evolution_186ff62f-bf65-4c2d-bda6-74c3ad66bcb4.jpg?v=1740158252&width=2048

[frozen ingot]

why does a cheap grocery getter have to look like a fucking lambo in the front

no subtlety or elegance anymore, its all shouty look at me styling

[dull hollow]

with the new trend of “swimming” (making egregious traffic cuts) make it impossible to insure a BMW at a good price in NY

you see totaled M3/4/5 way more now than you used to

[frozen ingot]

they're also a lot faster than they've ever been but still bought by the same idiots