🔌│tech

[unkempt lake]

Accurate

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-finger-headpat-pat-petting-gif-5832898475429040703

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/catscafe-snake-happy-mood-snek-gif-16020631

[dull hollow]

i bought an oled 360hz monitor my pc definitely couldnt run in most games

[simple pilot]

Little is better

[unkempt lake]

I'll just... use this monitor till it breaks or i get tired of it

[crisp granite]

my monitor is only actually 144
good enough for me lol
I can't max it out with any game I play

with a 4080S btw

[unkempt lake]

False you can max out fallout

[crisp granite]

no I can't

physics break at high refresh rates
and with mods to fix that...I still can't hit 144hz

[unkempt lake]

Damn

Forza horizon 4 then

[crisp granite]

probably idk

[unkempt lake]

Mad max

[crisp granite]

fuck I should play mad max again

it has a mac port
as all good games do

[unkempt lake]

I should finish my playthrough

Well

My rere re playthrough

[crisp granite]

it's still the best

and it's from...almost a decade ago

also held up extremely well graphically

it's remarkable

[unkempt lake]

i know

we talked about this

we can talk about how amazing it is again

more people need to play this game

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I got a 3440x1440 175hz monitor and barely max it out with my 4090

I'm always running max settings

and most games ain't optimized so 175fps is laughable

I'm happy as long as I can get 100+

[analog sinew]

i think i will buy a g5 g50d

sounds good

gotta check some reviews

[dull hollow]

me when it gets delayed a year for pc players:

[balmy vector]

20 like OoT intended

[unkempt lake]

back in my day we didn't complain about perfect dark at 15fps on the nintendo 64

that's the funny part, we will have it spoiled

[dull hollow]

no internet for a year

rebuy it on pc 🔥

💀

[unkempt lake]

Almost like thats why its a split release

People will double dip

Jist like gta 5

Just like rdr2

I know i doubled dipped

For those 2

[dull hollow]

getting gtav for free from epik gams

[unkempt lake]

I had it on 360 then i bought it on pc

[wind parrot]

1

[dull hollow]

anyways, have there really not been anything about gta 6 since the trailer?

[unkempt lake]

Hold up

You have a 9800x3d

[wind parrot]

i bought that as a placeholder

[unkempt lake]

I remember you upgraded from a 5950

[wind parrot]

im gonna return it to amazon

im gonna put the 9950x3d in, return the 9800x3d

[unkempt lake]

Oh wait you're the scalped 5090 guy

Nvm this makes sense

Proceed

[wind parrot]

well

it isnt gonna cost me any money

[dull hollow]

lore?

[wind parrot]

because amazon is gonna give it back to me

[wind parrot]

i bought a 5090 from a scalper

[unkempt lake]

He bought a 5090 for 3k gpb on ebay

[wind parrot]

so im sat here with a 5090 whilst other people arent

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-the-mouse-tom-and-jerry-cartoon-mouse-surprised-gif-16816522

[wind parrot]

it retails for 2.8k anyway

not like i overpaid by 1k

i overpaid by like 400 ish

because it was 3.2

[balmy vector]

I’ll sell you my 4080 for moumou

[ashen spindle]

uhh you're only looking at the expensive AiB models

[gentle osprey]

Rockstar needs to adapt like Sony

[dull hollow]

this is usd? is it one of those aio cooled cards

[gentle osprey]

Release it on PC at the same time

[wind parrot]

poor PALIT

[gentle osprey]

Like Sony did with Helldivers 2

[wind parrot]

GBP

[balmy vector]

They say no cuz pc stinky

[ashen spindle]

much easier to do it with a small game like helldivers lol

[gentle osprey]

lol yeah but still

[ashen spindle]

they could do release at the same time but that would delay it again most likely

[gentle osprey]

That’s fine

[ashen spindle]

its easier at that scale to have it running on one hardware config and then expand it

[gentle osprey]

Not like we haven’t been waiting anyway

[unkempt lake]

I found his post

How much is the tuf gaming

Lets see

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I mean I understand it but at the same time it’s 2025, start releasing things at the same time

[wind parrot]

2.8k ish

[ashen spindle]

I mean, with complexity going up its harder to release things at the same vs delayed at that game size and investment

[dull hollow]

4.15k usd….

holy fuck

[ashen spindle]

remove tax first before converting

[unkempt lake]

Canadian

[gentle osprey]

True, I’m sure Rockstar can handle it though

They got money and time

[unkempt lake]

1792gbp

What's VAT?

In %

[ashen spindle]

yeah but if you do that you alos at the same time keep people working on something that cant be used yet so, there are tradeoffs

[wind parrot]

20%

[unkempt lake]

2150gbp after vat

You paid 3.2k gbp

[wind parrot]

but i dont live in canada

[unkempt lake]

Literally 1k more based on the msrp WITH uk vat

[wind parrot]

i live in the UK and in the UK its 2.7k for a 5090 tuf oc

[gentle osprey]

Hmm yeah fair point

[wind parrot]

rockstar want you to buy gta6 for $100on the ps5 or xbox, then the next gen, then pc

[gentle osprey]

That’s not confirmed

So I personally don’t believe it’ll be $100

[vestal axle]

yey

[wind parrot]

gta5 was released on the PS3, then ps4, then pc

[gentle osprey]

I know

[dull hollow]

rockstar pricing gta6 at 100 will be tragic

[gentle osprey]

They know how to make money

[wind parrot]

Cuckstar

[dull hollow]

buncha gooners paying for that next gen… physics

[unkempt lake]

Thats overclockers uk tho they sell at over msrp

[gentle osprey]

I mean GTA 6 will one of the biggest games ever forsure lol

[gentle osprey]

You guys should stop causing yourself pain and ignore 50 series

[unkempt lake]

Should be 2579.99

[wind parrot]

same difference

does it bother you i bought a scalped 5090 ?

[ashen spindle]

these comparisons are pointless because every retailer will quite quickly adjust prices on high demand low stock stuff

[unkempt lake]

I was just trying to point out its not super logical

[dull hollow]

it will be detrimental as in every other game will also start charging 100 for a base game

[dull hollow]

as long as they can generate enough hype for the game

[wind parrot]

i jnever said it was logical. i wanted the 5090 and i wanted it asap

i didnt want to wait 6 months

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

It’s gonna be $69.99

[dull hollow]

enter: $79.99

[gentle osprey]

For a deluxe version sure

[balmy vector]

229.99

[gentle osprey]

And then $99.99 or $119.99 for ultimate

And some $499.99 physical edition

[wind parrot]

nah, 99.99 for base

150 for ultimate

1000 for physical

[balmy vector]

Then 999 for steelbook edition

[gentle osprey]

If I’m wrong, you guys can throw tomatoes at me

[dull hollow]

now time to get to the real topic, titanfall 3 when

[balmy vector]

I will throw

[gentle osprey]

[ashen spindle]

no

people who say that have no clue, just like peopel said the same bs about zen4/zen5

[wispy tundra]

Hey I had a question, I’m planning to buy a rtx 4060 ti 16gb for 425€
( I want to play in 1080p and stream)
I was wondering if the rx 7700 xt would be better

[ashen spindle]

for gaming it would be a bit better, streaming a bit worse

[dull hollow]

i heard about that for the 5070 💀

[gentle osprey]

Those people just yapping

Ignore them

[lyric hatch]

Yeah it's different on a different node, has gddr7, new tensor cores, new RT cores

[ashen spindle]

ehh, very similar node

[lyric hatch]

Yeah the differences aren't very large

Mid gen

[gentle osprey]

Yeah the performance gains aren't very big

Nothing like 30 series to 40 series

[lyric hatch]

4000 series only looked that much better because nvidia cheaped out on the previous node so when they made the node jump it was basically like 2 node generations worth of improvement

[ashen spindle]

bit of both

bigger dies, better node, better uarch changes for gaming

[pale sigil]

fu windows

thankfully you can disable it but still

[umbral heron]

Come on, ask your admin to enable Windows Update

[wheat plume]

🤔 The official screenshots on the VSCode repo use MacOS, funny...

[umbral heron]

Microsoft avoiding using their own OS whenever possible

[unkempt lake]

You can disable 24h2 update in a way better way...

[wheat plume]

bazzite has a feature to change the opacity of Ptyxis for some reason.... xd Wish it could blur it too ;-; but GNOME and Blur is not a common combination sadly

[frozen ingot]

given how bad their software has gotten on average I wouldn't find it that surprising anymore

[wheat plume]

Can't see how bad your own OS is if you never use it!

[dull hollow]

anyone know if these are good prices? - im selling (so i can fund a bigger case xd)
ryzen 2700x with cooler: $70
hyperx fury 16gb 3200mhz: $25
asus tuf x570 plus wifi: $100
EVGA 3060: $225-250
corsair rm x750W 80+ gold: $50
Asus tuf case (gt301): $60

the gpu might be a stretch

[gusty kiln]

usually can sell ram/mobo/cpu together

[wheat plume]

Can't expect software made by a company that fired their entire QA team to be good

[ashen spindle]

and VS/VSC are amazing tools?

[wheat plume]

VSC is pretty good

True
I meant Windows itself with that comment XD

[ashen spindle]

they still have QA they dont just build and deploy and its done

every software company above 5 devs on a project has automated qa

[wheat plume]

They use Windows Insiders as free QA

Then fix issues they report

[ashen spindle]

they use build tools like everyone that checks for code breaking shit before any human even uses it

[astral haven]

The heck?
Microsoft can split downloads across multiple nics?
I thought that was a feature that required killer lan
(Yes WiFi is limited to 10m)

[wheat plume]

They might be part of their torrent-network like update system where they use other Windows machines to give your Windows machine pieces of the update like how you'd get pieces of a torrent from other PCs

[trim crane]

3060 if 12GB is still a bit overpriced at 300, but respect for going EVGA 🫡

[dull hollow]

closer to 225-250?

• evga is king

[ashen spindle]

I'd just look at ebay what similar things sold for recently and put it similar

since that can vary quite a lot by region

[dull hollow]

thats what i did, looked at listings from the past 2 days and seemed to vary from 200-300

[vapid ruin]

Not my pic but man, accurate

[dull hollow]

is seems like i have ran out of friends to sell this to

[dull hollow]

yeah, i’m thinking the case and psu is gonna be a harder to sell item

[latent mural]

idk if i am the only one with this issue but sometimes my keystrokes dont register and i have to fully press the key. Like i press my key fully but it detects it like .2 mms pressed, i was able to fix it easly but just wanted to know if anyone had a similar issue

most of the time that this happens is when i disconnect my keyboard

i thought i had to troubleshoot but thats good to know

all i need to do is just unplug and plug back in then

[umbral heron]

Welp, so it begins https://www.phoronix.com/news/KWin-Wayland-X11-Split

[raw zephyr]

kde is neat, but for whatever reason i prefer gnome 😅

[fair gull]

you like feet ey?

[marsh glade]

I like having feet

[fair gull]

pls dont steal mine

[nimble arch]

This is fine?

Isn’t the end game of Wayland adoption the deprecation of Xserver alongside it?

[analog sinew]

to use linux you first need to learn 200 lore factions

[marsh glade]

Pro tip: you don't actually need to install Linux in order to tell everyone about it

[thorn cypress]

we're getting close to that

I'm using xwayland less and less as time goes on

[nimble arch]

That doesn't mean a distribution for consumer desktop use has to ship it

[umbral heron]

https://www.businessinsider.com/ceos-insecure-about-ai-strategy-2025-3?IR=T

[umbral heron]

Huh... TIL Pixar uses mostly RHEL for their own work and tools, that's why Autodesk maintains Maya build for Linux and the same for Adobe and Substance Painter

[crimson wigeon]

A lot of movie CG seems to be Linux based

[umbral heron]

Autodesk has made the whole authentication for Linux already but still didn't release Fusion on Linux

[cursive summit]

How... generous

[sudden imp]

Oh my gawd to buy at MSRP???

[umbral heron]

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/9550pro/status/1900113615748833646?s=46

HXL (@9550pro) on X

9950X3D+Wraith Prism😋

X · Mar 13, 2025, 9:16 AM

peak combo

[analog sinew]

🤨

[dull hollow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Microcenter/s/v8vRqUQa7i

this is great

peak green vs red team

[sudden imp]

The 5070 is just the 4070 but more expensive at this point

[umbral heron]

Ew, 5070

[dull hollow]

$739.99 us 💀

[cursive summit]

I can only hope UDNA1 will be incredible, priced well and will blow out Nvidia out of the water across whole product stack

But that's a 2026 product

[dull hollow]

the only red card left is a sapphire 9070 non xt

but thats understandable because its $679.99 ????

what is microcenter doin

[cursive summit]

What are they doing

[raw zephyr]

PURE Overclocked Triple Fan!!1!

[cursive summit]

Is that an MSRP non-XT sold at inflated XT prices?

[dull hollow]

yes

[umbral heron]

Ooooh, the 9070 PUKE

[cursive summit]

Its cute though

[dull hollow]

well inflated xt prices are in the 730+

but thats besides the point

[umbral heron]

Whoever made the box graphics is the real one

[dull hollow]

the xt version is blue

[umbral heron]

Purpol better

[dull hollow]

but seriously. 5070 for $739.99 or 9070 for $679.99 💀

[cursive summit]

Yesterday I saw a steel legend go up for 760 or so in latvian tax voidhole

[dull hollow]

both cards msrp for the same ($550)

[cursive summit]

While it's still 900+ here lel

Prices are going down at least

It'll take a couple of months for them to normalize and then another few until they'll actually start discounting them

[dull hollow]

i couldve made 300-400 reselling my 9070 xt if i kept it sealed but i dont like scalping

[raw zephyr]

"discounted" still 100 euro above msrp 😅

[cursive summit]

I'm not buying local so I virtually don't care

The place I buy from always offers cards below msrp so I'm waiting for that

[fair gull]

5gum?

[dull hollow]

[balmy vector]

Mmmmyes

I will steal

[dull hollow]

theres an open box that sold for 1150

[cursive summit]

Tbf those can be fake listings or something like that

[analog sinew]

beating up sclapers and stealing it should be legal

[cursive summit]

Eventually the price for the 9070XT will settle down to.. 700 or so?

And latvian tax voidhole will price them for below 600

That's realistically what I am waiting for

[dull hollow]

yeah, same model as mine selling (local) are all 1k-1.2

not as many listing as i thought that sold

still a bunch more still listed at 1050-1200

[raw zephyr]

looking at local second hand listings - there are so many listings where you can buy a whole pc with a 4090 for cheaper than every single 5090 listing

and those pcs pack 9800x3ds

[dull hollow]

oh yeah...

[cursive summit]

ALL ROPS

[raw zephyr]

oh thankfully its not that absurd here

[cursive summit]

The fact that is actually a thing is funny

[dull hollow]

5 grand for the asus astral

[sudden imp]

Thank god they have all the ROPS

[raw zephyr]

i read a review on a local store and guy mentioned one of the pros as "has all the rops" 😅

3.2k store price

[dull hollow]

😭

[cursive summit]

I dread to check how much local stores are charging for the 5090

[raw zephyr]

here it's 3.2k and upwards

euro

[cursive summit]

Hah, latvian tax voidhole is pricing them 500 cheaper than rest

Voidhole

[cursive summit]

Cheapest local offering

[raw zephyr]

god bless

[cursive summit]

That's a massive difference lol, and isn't the Astral the best you can get?

[sudden imp]

My ‘local’ microcenter actually has 9070xt’s or had them at MSRP

[dull hollow]

no clue

[cursive summit]

I think the Astral is the best model available for that card, at least cooling wise outside of liquid

[raw zephyr]

i believe so as well

at least it tells you to shutdown the system when one wire decides to draw 20 amp by itself

[dull hollow]

[raw zephyr]

that price is more RTX OFF

with MFG 4X or whatever they call it

[dull hollow]

it might be chat

sold yesterday

[analog sinew]

235235235235$

[balmy vector]

9643,69$

[dull hollow]

these prices are insane

when i first got into this whole thing, probably about 6 years ago, max i thought a pc would go for is like 5 grand 😭

now look at where inflation has gotten us

[steady sail]

An average pc is 5 grand

[umbral heron]

A good fucken PC costs 5 grand
You can have a decent PC for 2k€

[steady sail]

Ara ya sure about it ?

[ashen spindle]

1500 for the best pc aside from using a 5090 if everything is at msrp is simple to do

[dull hollow]

my currnent pc is pretty good imo (1440p high-max settings @240-360+fps depending on the game)
only running a 7700x + 7090 xt

thanks microcenter

cpu+mb+ram: 370
cpu cooler: like 40
gpu: 760
psu: 116
storage: ~250(?)

[dull hollow]

lines up with this, pretty much 1536ish give or take

well... minus the case

[fair gull]

i hate buying at msrp. i only buy scalped

[dull hollow]

selling my old pc doesnt even cover the cost of my gpu 😭

[ashen spindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3z8xg even with above msrp gpu I just threw something together for 1700

And there’s spots to save if you need but aside from a 5090 you aren’t going to get better performance

[fair gull]

gpu be wildin

[dull hollow]

thing that kills me is buying more storage

1tb ssd then costs the same as 2tb m.2 now

[frozen ingot]

razer avocado tester

[fair gull]

unsure how its razer

[dull hollow]

rgb

[umbral heron]

People be doing ridiculous stuff for a fruit that tastes like greasy generic plant

[analog sinew]

yeah gotta say i dont get the hpye

they taste oaky but eh

[frozen ingot]

its more about the consistency imo

[dull hollow]

alright i have come down to a few case choices
o11 dymaic/vision
corsair 4000d
nzxt h9

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-think-thinking-hmm-gif-11570469479394618754

[balmy vector]

Wonder when the next GN case review will drop

I want them to review the frame 4000d

[dull hollow]

the 4000d is tempting

for the price as a big atx case

[sudden imp]

The vision is pretty cool

But I’d go with what ever works best for your budget and build

[dull hollow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1hvw7vs/frame_4000d_a_new_look_to_the_4000d/

[steady sail]

I would love to get a torrent xl or a north xl but yeah

[balmy vector]

Ye i have the case

[umbral heron]

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-stock-decline-jp-morgan-analyst-guidance-2025-3?IR=T

[analog sinew]

:D

[balmy vector]

Frame 4000d has a lot of flexible metal, but i actually quite like the case

Easy to take apart

[dull hollow]

ah

i like the look of the old 4000d front pannel

[umbral heron]

Lian Li is so passé rn, go for 4000d

[dull hollow]

so man o11 builds, theyre everywhere

[gusty kiln]

The fractal north is the only case I care about until another high quality case comes along with mesh side panel

[balmy vector]

True that

North is beautiful

[gusty kiln]

A dual chamber version of the north is my case endgame

[umbral heron]

North XL

[dull hollow]

how generious, 2 fans included with the 4000d xd

[umbral heron]

Why tf white is 70€ cheaper than black one?

[nimble arch]

North XL my beloved

[analog sinew]

cause uggo

[nimble arch]

Although I have the black model

[analog sinew]

black is better

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-23501265

[nimble arch]

Black + walnut is a nice office combination

[gusty kiln]

Yeah I prefer the black one

[analog sinew]

i bought the black, it wasnt even a discussion

[umbral heron]

So you prefer BBCs - big black cases

[cursive summit]

Tbf usually it's the opposite

[balmy vector]

How my frame 4000d looks

[analog sinew]

yes

[nimble arch]

I need to get a black + dark wood desk though

[gusty kiln]

They should make a slate color north

[cursive summit]

Ncase M2 costs more for white version

[nimble arch]

Moving on from all my furniture being either white (thanks IKEA) and maybe some oak.

[dull hollow]

thats a lot of fans

[balmy vector]

It is

[dull hollow]

corsair fans too? splurging

[gusty kiln]

Only issue is that dust shows easily on black

[nimble arch]

It's called cleaning

I don't think it's that bad though

My brother has the Fractal Pop Air in black

The front is a layer of dust after 2 weeks

[dull hollow]

my pc doesnt have much rgb, its literally just the gpu lol

[gusty kiln]

Almost want to get a hepa air filter to slow down the dust accumulation

[analog sinew]

just game in a cleanroom

[balmy vector]

Or clean regularly

[nimble arch]

I live next to a busy road

The air is just dusty all the time

[dull hollow]

since the 4000d only comes with 2 fans, do i just get an arctic 5 pack of p12s

[gusty kiln]

P12 max

[nimble arch]

I should really just move. Would be nice to not have constant road noise just there in the background. I can tune it out like 95% of the time but I've never truly at peace.

[gusty kiln]

Into the woods

Satellite internet

[balmy vector]

Hey thats where ill be

[gusty kiln]

Man fractal should start doing node cases again

[dull hollow]

wait these arent the maxes (are they?)

[gusty kiln]

Just don't go over 1000 rpm, that's where they start losing to noctua

Lol they aren't

Hmmm maybe they stopped selling 5 packs of the max

[dull hollow]

i just searched arctic p12 max

only one that shows is the p14

[gusty kiln]

Yeah only the 14 max 5 pack is available

Weird

Wonder if sold out

[dull hollow]

found it... but its a single + white and $14.50

[dull hollow]

sold out in microcenter so most likely the case

[gusty kiln]

Rip

[dull hollow]

huh, dunno where this is from
https://www.aquatuning.com/en/air-cooling/fan/120mm-fan/l12-arctic-p12-max-5-pack-black-high-speed-pwm-fan?currency=3

holy shit its $77 on newegg

[steady sail]

Worth it LOL

[dull hollow]

how much did you pay?

[steady sail]

730€

[umbral heron]

And like this we can't make memes about Akko getting a new GPU

[fair gull]

yes we cant

we can clown on akko for not going xt

[steady sail]

@unkempt lake i bought a GPU

Tbh i dont mind the non-xt

[fair gull]

wasnt the conclusion to just go xt if the price isnt insanely over msrp

[sudden imp]

P sure

[steady sail]

xt was 900€

[dull hollow]

should i just go for normal p12s then?

legit >1/2 the value of the 3060 😭

[gusty kiln]

Norman p12 are fine especially for case fans

P12 max are better for aio and air coolers

[cursive summit]

Not sure why you even need extra fans when the case comes with 2

[dull hollow]

ah okay, im not using an aio and im using the fans that came with the peerless assassin for the cpu cooler

[gusty kiln]

+82% according to tpu, over the 6700xt. Pretty good

[cursive summit]

They are pretty good fans on the peerless

[gusty kiln]

My upgrade philosophy for gpu is +100% for around the same price

[cursive summit]

I was wondering how the 140mm fan version does over the 120mm fans on the Peerless and Phantom

Surely it's not.. that big of a difference

[gusty kiln]

Usually have to wait 4 years minimum though lol

[gusty kiln]

Not much, hardware Canucks did reviews for it

[dull hollow]

cpu is suffocating in the current case with 2 intakes xd

[gusty kiln]

It slightly quieter

[cursive summit]

I guess if you have a problem then yeah go for it

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/01jc8CLuRWY?si=mxSjUcp9qj77cLzo

[dull hollow]

especially with the new gpu in there taking up majority of the space and generating more heat than my old gpu

[cursive summit]

So, something that was news to me is that thermalright made a version of the peerless for smaller cases https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120-mini-black/

These fit into SFX cases, well, some of them

[gusty kiln]

We need more cases with side panel exhaust for the gpu, so the hot air doesn't reach the cpu cooler

[cursive summit]

Tbf you don't need fans in a mesh case, your whole case is just open air

And I kinda refuse to buy a case that does not have mesh on the side panel, tempered glass does not belong on a PC case

[gusty kiln]

Same

North is the only good one atm

[cursive summit]

Mesh is very common on SFX builds tbf

I think Torrent is a weird amalgam of mesh and more solid, kinda a hive look to it

[gusty kiln]

Oh damn, 9070xt is almost exactly +100% over the 6700xt

Shame it was 900 euro

[dull hollow]

uh.... the north mesh is $190

[cursive summit]

Tbf having bought the 5700 many years ago and it having served so far, I can hardly imagine just how amazing it'll feel to get a new GPU that is +300% over current

[gusty kiln]

Yeah fractal has a slight premium over other brands

[cursive summit]

Not necessarily, pop air and co are well priced

[dull hollow]

i dont remember the meshify being this expensive

[cursive summit]

And realistically most people prolly will be looking at the ~90-100 area

[gusty kiln]

Yeah 9070xt is 300% over the 570p lol

[cursive summit]

It's sub-100 for compact and nano

[gusty kiln]

Well at least for their non budget line

Torrent north and all the itx are a bit more over the competitors

[dull hollow]

ah okay

[cursive summit]

And tbf I think more people need to realize they do not need the insane size of ATX

Compact (mATX) can house top end components and it'll be far less unwieldy

[gusty kiln]

Have you looked at the antec flux?

[dull hollow]

that front pannel is... uh interesting

[gusty kiln]

Lol

[cursive summit]

Tak I guess you are looking for cases, I am pretty sure you follow GN, I don't know if you have this open just for reference https://gamersnexus.net/cases/best-pc-cases-2024-80-800-airflow-cable-management-thermal-leaders

[dull hollow]

i watch GN casually, not all, just those relevant to me xd

but ty

[cursive summit]

Btw there is a less known webpage that is great for.. finding things https://pangoly.com/en/browse/case

Kinda PCpartpicker but better imo, checks for compatibility and only offers you fans and stuff that fit

Sadly neither pcpartpicker nor pangoly has NCase M2 so that's ass

[steady sail]

[cursive summit]

Non-XT.. peasant 😛

[steady sail]

i dont care its still an improvement from the 6700 xt

[cursive summit]

Tbf I play virtually no demanding games that even my RX 5700 can still handle them

I can't imagine having a 6700XT and being unhappy with it

[nimble arch]

Have fun with the new GPU

[dull hollow]

does the north even fit my gpu

[cursive summit]

Give us undervolting and stress test results

[nimble arch]

Slay some demons or whatever

[gusty kiln]

Pretty much the same spec exact I have a 4070 ti super

[cursive summit]

North will always fit your GPU?

[dull hollow]

lol wrong reply

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-griddy-monstie-huntie-gif-3010505675130003795

[nimble arch]

I've been tempted to pick up the new Monster Hunter

But I dunno

I'll get good FPS at least

[cursive summit]

Which GPU do you have?

[dull hollow]

thats close but good enough

[cursive summit]

Which one do you have

AIB, model

[dull hollow]

gigabyte aorus

9070 xt

its 339mm

[cursive summit]

HDD cage (or front radiator) must be removed from the Fractal Design North to fit the Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 9070 XT ELITE 16G.

[gusty kiln]

Add 25mm for front fan

[cursive summit]

Take from that what you will, it can always be wrong

[gusty kiln]

It won't fit with front fan

Rip north

[dull hollow]

it says max is 355 with a fan(?)

[gusty kiln]

It says without

Oh wait

With and without

Lol why, that doesn't make sense

[dull hollow]

its a weird way to put it but yeah

hmmm

interesting...

[cursive summit]

Here's the North not-XL

[gusty kiln]

I guess it fits

[cursive summit]

This might.. help somehow

[dull hollow]

im not running an aio so

[cursive summit]

You can still look at AIO dimensions and extrapolate

[dull hollow]

it should be fine

[gusty kiln]

Man we need a seperate case next to the case for our gpu lol

[cursive summit]

Laptop users w/ eGPU

[analog sinew]

north xl tho?

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-my-time-has-come-gif-8019684

[gusty kiln]

Kek

Or mini pc with oculink

[gusty kiln]

413 mm is 5090 ready

[dull hollow]

the xl is... massive

[analog sinew]

it gud

lots of space to build

[cursive summit]

Indeed it is gigantic

It doesn't look to give you that much more clearance tbf, it's just far taller and a bit fatter

[umbral heron]

[dull hollow]

god its $180 tho

[cursive summit]

You really have better options at that price lel

[analog sinew]

yeah it isnt the cheapest forsure

[cursive summit]

Torrent is that much

But last I've seen Torrent has been long dethroned

Not by the North I don't think but some other stuff

Actually looking at thermal charts, it seems it's topped by lian li 216?

Which is just a bit above 100

Comes with 3 fans as well, that sounds like an okay deal, no?

[gusty kiln]

https://www.xtia.design/products/xtia-xproto-atx-case

[dull hollow]

why is there a fan outside the case 😭

[gusty kiln]

Infinite gpu Clearance with xproto

[dull hollow]

yummy

[cursive summit]

Maybe you really should take a look at the 216 eh

That looks pretty good, and isn't the most expensive of the bunch

[dull hollow]

just sent that lmfao

[cursive summit]

What

Fml

Just fucking kill me

[dull hollow]

[cursive summit]

It looks okay tbf

If I didn't want to build SFX I would consider it

But yeah it's only SFX here

[dull hollow]

juiced

[umbral heron]

Big case good

[cursive summit]

Extended ATX? Woo wee

USB lover's dream

Hnm looking at E-ATX it's the same height, it's just far wider

Not.. too sure why you'd need one

I guess more M.2 slots

[rough patrol]

you need it to justify the giant case you bought on a whim

[dull hollow]

fill the void

[jaunty rose]

Oh you already bought the case, was about to reccomend the h6 flow since it usually goes for 105 usd

[unkempt lake]

Post proof

[cursive summit]

They did, it's a 9070

#🔌│tech message

[dull hollow]

dang bruh the 4000d airflow is selling out by the hour 🥲

[cursive summit]

Isn't that case ancient? Get something better

[dull hollow]

yeah

[umbral heron]

Are you really picking a case for almost 2 hours now?

[reef patrol]

It's a box of metal. What's better from a newer case? 😄

[dull hollow]

indeed

[jaunty rose]

Wanted a 9070XT but prices went up the day after release. Was looking forward to maybe getting one as a future upgrade

[cursive summit]

It fits your mother into it

[umbral heron]

4000d good, not that expensive, tons of airflow, take

[reef patrol]

I mean.. yeah obviously. That's why I got the 011D XL

[jaunty rose]

H6 flow seems good

[jaunty rose]

Did they release the new model yet?

[cursive summit]

Or just buy the NCase M2

Which ever since I've learnt of it became a dream come true

[umbral heron]

It's just bent sheet metal, not sure what would change with new model

[dull hollow]

so many options

[umbral heron]

ew, sff

[reef patrol]

Indeed. I guess maybe the USB ports on the front if anything?

[cursive summit]

Yes, SFF!

[jaunty rose]

Just slightly bigger and cheaper, with the ports and power on button on the bottom front of the case

[dull hollow]

origionally i was looking at the h9

[jaunty rose]

H6 flow looks better and has better cooling if I remember correctly?

Tbh if you had 50 more bucks to spare I would reccomend the o11 compact for aesthetic build

[dull hollow]

vex has convinced me to consider the lian li 216

[dull hollow]

o11 is used so much everywhere lol

[cursive summit]

The forces of chaos win again

[dull hollow]

my cousin is building his new pc and he went for the o11 vision compact

[jaunty rose]

Popular doesnt mean bad lmao, but the 216 looks good too

[reef patrol]

And for a good reason. It's a great platform.

[dull hollow]

it is, im just sick of seeing it so often

[reef patrol]

https://imgur.com/a/QVTYZp7

[jaunty rose]

Not to overhype but Lian li seems to make good products

[reef patrol]

Here's a bucket if you need one 😛

🪣

[jaunty rose]

Their Edge psu looks really good

And its rated an A on the psu tier list

[dull hollow]

no, i agree, its proof based how many people use it and content creators going back to it over and over again

[cursive summit]

Hmm I don't know how lian li making good cases somehow transfers to them making good PSUs

Did cybenetics review the lian li PSU?

[jaunty rose]

Not related at all Im just saying they’re competent in making pc components

[marsh glade]

Thermaltake Tower 300 or Tower 600 ftw

[balmy vector]

the tower!

[cursive summit]

That doesn't always transfer between different component categories tbf

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/the-claw-woody-buzz-lightyear-tom-hanks-tim-allen-gif-27247227

[cursive summit]

I'd argue MSi can make decent GPUs, decent motherboards

[reef patrol]

Pssssh... at least for for the 900 and make popcorn at that point.

[cursive summit]

But I dare say MSi's cases are bottom tier trash

[jaunty rose]

Yeah your right

[marsh glade]

Look at all these pretty colors, and there's more than just this!

[cursive summit]

I cannot even look at an MSi case without puking

[balmy vector]

that dark green is nice

would go well with my keycaps if i was in the market for a case

[reef patrol]

Salted or butter?

[jaunty rose]

Oh for sure they’re just copies of popular stuff, but as you mentioned and I do agree that their gpu’s and mobod are nice

[dull hollow]

these are uh.. interesting cases

[cursive summit]

Eh they have issues, they are about as nice as every other manufacturer

[dull hollow]

[balmy vector]

i like their mascot

when its cutesie

[jaunty rose]

This feels like a case that would be used in the late 2000’s or early 2010’s for high end lmao

[marsh glade]

I think you'd like the Matcha Plum too

[reef patrol]

You dated that case perfectly.

[jaunty rose]

:D

[balmy vector]

oh thats an interesting combo indeed, could make a boba style build out of that beaut

[bold coyote]

gives me mini crane game vibes, I like it

[jaunty rose]

https://tenor.com/view/white-claw-the-claw-toy-story-clawwww-gif-14432446

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-the-claw-ryu-ga-ryu-ga-gotoku-rgg-gif-13465825906366723110

[jaunty rose]

I chose the first gif didnt know it was gonna be the drink lmao

[cursive summit]

Anyone know why DIscord decides to pop up the.. idk.. emoji code for every emoji on the side panel?

[marsh glade]

Skill issue

on Discord's end

[balmy vector]

true

[dull hollow]

alright so... lancool 216 it is, 3 fans $100, thanks @cursive summit

[jaunty rose]

Have ya’ll seem the discord overlay update? It’s pretty neat for people who dont have multiple monitors :3

[cursive summit]

Nice, I hope you don't need more than those internal fans

[balmy vector]

yeah got jumpscared by it since it auto enables the first time

[knotty quartz]

ILLEGAL

[steady sail]

[knotty quartz]

AMD is illegal 😭

[nimble arch]

AMD GPUs are kinda based now

[steady sail]

i dont care about ngreedia

[jaunty rose]

Yeah lmao
I find it useful for watching my friends streams while I play something else but thats about it
Tbh I would much rather get a stream deck for shortcut functionality but discord overlay works just fine

[cursive summit]

Your unpingable nickname is illegal, fix that shit

[knotty quartz]

😭

[knotty quartz]

blunted 😄

[cursive summit]

r/uselessredcircle

Or box in this case

[knotty quartz]

circles a round D:

[steady sail]

[gusty kiln]

Man that's a space heater of a pc

[knotty quartz]

Ahhhhhhhh they want me to bleeed

[jaunty rose]

Luckyyyy

Did you get it online or at a local store?

[dull hollow]

local microcenter

got it at launch, been running nicely

[balmy vector]

wish i had a microcenter in my state

lucky

[dull hollow]

just a lil warm and have yet to do udnervolt testing

[jaunty rose]

My nearest microcenter is a 4 hour drive 😭🙏🙏🙏

[dull hollow]

closest one to me is 25-30 minute drive

[cursive summit]

You can consider yourself lucky

[balmy vector]

oh youre lucky lucky

what a showoff

[jaunty rose]

I live in central Florida and the Microcenter is all the way south in Miami, ik this is just salty anger but like I find it so stupid they made one all the way at the bottom of Florida and not Orlando which is in the middle of Florida 😭😭😭

[gusty kiln]

In have one that is about 40 minutes and another about 1 hour

[unkempt lake]

Region lock china!

[dull hollow]

i got a friend that lives in tampa so its also 4 hours for him lmfao

[gusty kiln]

Lol when your state is too big

[unkempt lake]

Go buy one for him then ship it then have him pay you back

[gusty kiln]

Probably same issue in cali

[dull hollow]

i had the sweet time to wait outside the store 90 minutes before it opened on launch day

[jaunty rose]

Gotta convince the Family to go on Vacation to Miami

[dull hollow]

lightwork fr

[dull hollow]

he has a brother in miami, hes fine

[marsh glade]

Useless fact of the day: the Northeastern corner of the Texan panhandle is closer to Canada than it is the opposite corner of Texas

[jaunty rose]

I’ve been down there before, went to the Keys with my Fathers boat and RV. It was sick

[gusty kiln]

Wonder if microcenter have restocked yet

Next wave of buyers

[balmy vector]

closest micro center would be a 2 and a half hour drive

[jaunty rose]

That isnt as baddddd

[dull hollow]

me when microcenter doesnt ship bundles:

[jaunty rose]

Lol

[steady sail]

cutie :3

[gusty kiln]

All rops accounts for

[cursive summit]

Useless fact of the day: Mr_Akbar's name is in fact not Akbar.

[thick elk]

Roughly same physx performance as the nvidia 50 series too!

[gusty kiln]

So what games were you gpu bound in?

[steady sail]

good question LMAO

[jaunty rose]

Guys no, you dont get it….. the 50 series is SUPPOSED to be like that.. its offloading the physX games to your cpu so you can get that nostalgic performance of when you didnt have a gpu to run games all those years ago!!!

[gusty kiln]

Unless you also got a monitor upgrade

[marsh glade]

(yes I know that was /s xD)

[steady sail]

nah xd

[gusty kiln]

How much per gallon of wootium?

[jaunty rose]

279 plus shipping and taxes

[unkempt lake]

It's actually mr snackbar

[balmy vector]

Mr. Steakbar

[jaunty rose]

50 series wouldt be thattttt bad if it was msrp.. didnt have the missing rops…. In stock… didnt catch on fire……. And if you didnt already have a 40 series gpu….

Seeing 5070ti go for $900+ base price is such a Joke, no wonder EVGA abandoned ship 😭

[analog sinew]

ye

nvidia really lost all sense

[crimson wigeon]

Well if people really are willing to pay that much then it's just good business

[cursive summit]

Heh https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/some-sapphire-rx-9070-9070-xt-graphics-cards-have-hard-to-spot-foam-inside-that-must-be-removed-or-it-may-result-in-a-decrease-in-cooling-capacity-or-product-failure/

Some Sapphire RX 9070/9070 XT graphics cards have hard-to-spot foam inside that must be removed or it 'may result in a decrease in cooling capacity or product failure'

That does look terrible

[reef patrol]

Factory workings getting thrown outta windows for that one.

[cursive summit]

Btw Dashi will soon come out and start hating

[balmy vector]

Inb4 12vhpwr 2.0 boogaloo

[unkempt lake]

The nitro+ the dashi signal

GUYS DO YOU KNOW THE 12VHPWR SUCKS

[cursive summit]

WE KNOW IT DOES NOT

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/pichu-pokemon-pikachu-mad-angry-gif-26205991

[cursive summit]

Back at you sister

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-playfight-angry-dog-doggo-gif-18451844

[unkempt lake]

It's over Vex, I have the high ground

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-skywalker-anakin-skywalker-dark-side-obi-wan-gif-18082857

[cursive summit]

I'm on the right though

[gusty kiln]

Shame that the fighting they always do is probably causing unessesary stress on them

Could affect the heart

[unkempt lake]

You were supposed to destroy the 12VHPwR now join them

[cursive summit]

I trust in engineers more than I trust myself

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/duel-star-wars-flame-fire-darth-vader-gif-7971806

vex^

After he got to close to the 12vhpwr lava

Of moumoustafar

[cursive summit]

It's okay, you are racist to 12V connectors, it's fine

But it's really rude

[unkempt lake]

I love racism games, have you seen my forza hours

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-shocked-surprised-omg-shock-gif-5907768

[dull hollow]

i, too, love being a racist [/s]

[cursive summit]

You did not say that

[unkempt lake]

Pro racist 😎

vroom vroom

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/jogo-sukuna-ryomen-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-gif-12910466074930766968

[unkempt lake]

Now we need someone to plop vex and i's pfps on star wars episode 3

Revenge of the melting connectors

[old marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-smarter-happen-how-did-this-happen-were-smarter-than-this-gif-15395941

[unkempt lake]

Vex followed the dark side to get unlimited power for his gpu

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[unkempt lake]

that part we cut out

we can't admit to moments of stupidity

[marsh glade]

Not even Trackmania smh my head

[unkempt lake]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/nvidia-claims-it-has-shipped-twice-as-many-rtx-50-gpus-at-launch-compared-to-rtx-40/

Doubt

[gusty kiln]

Shipped half of those to upper level employees

[nova hazel]

My Wooting won't turn on. I think I did everything right. I plugged them into my PC and it won't turn on. Does anyone know why or if there's anything I need to do?

[marsh pewter]

don’t spam the same thing in multiple channels

[nova hazel]

Sorry

[cursive summit]

They are, as the kids say, not the goat

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RufHRlOdco0
So much for speeding up video production.

Took him his long to do a video that mentions the Bambu drama.

[rough patrol]

i mean they mentioned it on the wan show and on some of their other channels (i think)

[reef patrol]

A video. On the main channel.

Livestreams don't count.

[wheat plume]

https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite-arch

There is an Arch based version of Bazzite

[crimson wigeon]

y tho

[thick elk]

https://tweakers.net/reviews/13040/wat-ging-er-mis-bij-de-amd-rx-9070-xt-release.html
Dutch but pretty nice read into the rx 9070(xt) supply situation.

Mostly what we already knew, AMD not giving out rebates for a large portion of the gpu's primarily.

[reef patrol]

They pushed a firmware update that would lock some of their printers to their software

[umbral heron]

Basically Bambu wants people to connect their printers to accounts and force them to use Bambu Studio slicer, or in case of 3rd party slicer use their companion app
They want to close their ecosystem, but caved and now left "developer mode", where you can use printer like before, just without their cloud stuff

Guess who won't update their printer because it works just fine right now

[reef patrol]

Same. I unboxed mine and immediately went into LAN mode. No updates.

[wheat plume]

Watch now, they wont offer tech support on your printer if it isnt on the latest firmware or some shit

[marsh glade]

This is how all printers should be treated henceforth, 3d or otherwise

[wheat plume]

or you have dev mode enabled

[marsh glade]

Irrelevant; if it prints now then never update it and set rules in your firewall to block connections from their apps

[wheat plume]

yee...

[marsh glade]

Chance of needing tech support is tiny relative to the chance of them fucking you over... What a world we live in

[umbral heron]

[wheat plume]

🤔

[umbral heron]

And there's no technical support needed really, it's a very simple device, 3 stepper motors, extruder and heating stuff

If something breaks you can order the whole part directly from Bambu

[balmy vector]

put a coconut on it as a hat

make it guest friendly

[marsh glade]

The Dutch word for coconut is kokosnoot which I intentionally incorrectly pronounce as coco-snoot

[umbral heron]

I got it new nozzles today
Time to print a hat

[balmy vector]

wait so it isnt pronounced as coco-snoot? this is blasphemy

[marsh glade]

We shall raise an army

[balmy vector]

i will gladly join this army

[wild coyote]

Should I get Bazzite?

🧐

[minor zephyr]

hello idk if im in the correct channel for that, but how can i reset wootility profile

[reef patrol]

Also a million videos on YT to help

[minor zephyr]

i slammed my desk and keyboard profile layout went from azerty french to qwerty

[reef patrol]

I had to open up my extruder to get a bit out that was blocking. On the first day.

[wild coyote]

What's a good distro for linux gaming? Got that all AMD build 😎 cuz I wanna have some kind of an OS that just works. KDE preferred

[umbral heron]

Bazzite or EndeavourOS

[crimson wigeon]

Really any non-LTS distro that offers KDE plasma will do nicely

[wild coyote]

Bazzite it is

Is Steam (pre-installed) using flatpak or?

[crimson wigeon]

Bazzite preinstalls Steam and does not flatpak it up for reasons

[wild coyote]

As long as it doesn't use flatpak, I accept it 👍

Even tho it's an easy install, it's a hassle lmao

[crimson wigeon]

Bazzite does encourage you to have everything else be flatpak'd, however

[wild coyote]

I'll live without flatpak

It's ffffiiine

[crimson wigeon]

Then installing anything extra will be an additional pain

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/J3mOFg4uVNg

[bright briar]

did the reviews for ryzen 9 9950x3d come out yet?

[halcyon moss]

Yes

[bright briar]

whats the verdict

[ashen spindle]

its what everyone expected

great for work/allround, for just gaming just get the cheaper 9800x3d

[gusty kiln]

Task scheduler is a lot better

[bright briar]

i wish the price of the 7800x3d would dropped but i'll get the 9800x3d thx quin

[fair gull]

wasnt it also for work only get the non x3d

[ashen spindle]

no

zen5 x3d does the cache on bottom so heat isnt an issue and clocks are almost the same

so unless you know you never have workloads that dont benefit at all from extra cache its still good

[raw flicker]

I am looking to design my own keyboard, and was wondering if any one had advice, my main worry is making sure, the plate is measured and designed correctly. I currently had the switch holes measured at 14mm by 14mm. What the best way to measure to make sure the keycaps will fit correct next to each other

[fair gull]

look at OSH keyboard projects

[raw flicker]

what is that?

[fair gull]

open source hardware

people making github repos or such with pcb design files and/or case/plate design files

[raw flicker]

ah thanks

[fair gull]

lots of custom keyboard projects out there

and reddits/discords prob

[wild coyote]

Surprisingly Bazzite doesn't seem bad. Just a bit meh on installing packages.

As I needed a few programs that weren't on flatpak or homebrew

[fickle ore]

why the hell is there no youtube music desktop app

[fair gull]

cause it would just be a browser

like the third party apps

[fickle ore]

still use less resources than browser or?

[fair gull]

no?

itll be like 200mb or so installer

and run a full blown chromium window

like discord app

wootility app

and basically most apps that are a website and have a desktop app

[fickle ore]

yea but minus tracking shit that browsers have?

[fair gull]

if you install chromium (not chrome) you get the same result

its just a browser. you just cant navigate to custom urls

[fickle ore]

good enough for me

[fair gull]

youre prob better of actually running ytmusic in an incognito window

[fickle ore]

Is this legit? https://github.com/ytmdesktop/ytmdesktop

[fair gull]

also having written my own yt music app i have just stopped using it and moved back to the website

[fickle ore]

Ah

[fair gull]

for me the killer is that its using far mroe resources than a new tab

and doesnt solve any issue

[fickle ore]

weird

[fair gull]

except having a button on the taskbar

[fickle ore]

well that is a plus + untangled from browser mess

my ocd doesnt like tabs

[fair gull]

for me my browser solves this

[fickle ore]

oh yeah hell no this desktop app sucks still has ads

[fair gull]

ofc it does

i literally told you its just the website

just use a chromium based browser and use https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/jadskip-adblock-for-youtu/kcgbbbjpeiaaiokphejajemebphalmii

had good success with this before just paying for premium in a family pack for girlfriend and her mom

[wild coyote]

I do need a linux distro that would work with Star Citizen 🧐

Had difficulties getting it downloaded on Bazzite

[fair gull]

try holoiso

should basically be steamos but for normal pcs

idk if star citizen even works on linux

[wild coyote]

There's a github overall and a full community on Star citizen for linux

[crimson wigeon]

It's perfectly playable, just some distros are a bit harder. Bazzite seems to be one of those probably because of the insistence on flatpaking everything

I'm playing it right now infact, on openSUSE Tumbleweed!

[wheat plume]

ive had this pair of Clouds II like 10 months and this shit happened .-.

Why is HP so shit at build quality????

The first pair of these headphones I got, built by HyperX, lasted 5 years before any damage showed up

[ashen spindle]

just because HP bought them doesnt mean its suddenly made different...

[dull hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3mOFg4uVNg

[gusty nexus]

All gamer headphone are really bad in build quality, comfort and sound quality

[wheat plume]

Nah, the previous pair of the EXACT SAME headphones, but built by HyperX themselves, lasted 5 years

[nimble arch]

Stop buying gaming audio products?

Certainly glad I did many years ago

[unkempt lake]

Coincidence

Plastic is fragile

Would woulda thought

[ashen spindle]

yeah turns out you got lucky before, hyperx never really was known for being sturdy

its still build by hyperx

[whole axle]

Been on apple earbuds for 6 yrs now

[unkempt lake]

Nothing weong with them, just depends on the price

[gusty nexus]

Sennheiser headphone are build like a tank while it's plastic, it's just bad quality plastic on theses gamer headphone

[unkempt lake]

I've seen broken senheisers before

[wheat plume]

nah, my ones say HP on them

[gusty nexus]

They're so bad, the value for your money is really bad on gaming headphone

[umbral heron]

Dunno, HyperX stuff used to be really freaking sturdy some 6 years ago or so, ever since HP bought them all they do is quite shit

[wheat plume]

the ones I had before had hyperx on them

[ashen spindle]

yes so the sticker at the end is now changed, what a difference

[unkempt lake]

I don't want wired headphones

[gusty nexus]

That's rare and people had clearly abused them

[wheat plume]

and the maarking on the inside of the headband too

[unkempt lake]

And most audiophile stuff welp... it's wired

[ashen spindle]

yes changing the branding on a piece of gear is done in a few minutes in the same factory...

[gusty nexus]

There's good wireless headphone too

Audeze maxwell for exemple

[umbral heron]

I wonder why

[unkempt lake]

They are way higher priced than what a gaming headset would cost

[oak blaze]

Guys, I spend 350€ on the wooting 60 he But it didnt Game Yet and my mom doesnt get any response From wooting… i rlly love the Keyboard bc one of my Friends has it But it was so expensive and it Never came… I oredered it in 2024 Like August… im rlly rlly sad about it and my parents think we got scammed and wooting Are scammers… Can you please please help me im beging you guys pls help me get someone From the wooting Team to come in contact with me or my parents… im rlly rlly sad

[gusty nexus]

Yeah but at least you're not buying junk

[unkempt lake]

You're completely ignoring the price argument

I asked you to find me a good wireless headset at a comparable price to more mainstream options

Gaming headsets have a market

[gusty nexus]

Wasting money while you can get something alazingly good for a little more ?
You can also get very good sound for around 50 dollars and even lower

[unkempt lake]

An audeze maxeell is 450cad...
The logitech headset i have on was 150cad

300cad difference isn't "a little"

[oak blaze]

Guys pls…

[unkempt lake]

I'm just saying there's a market for budget options

[gusty nexus]

Ugreen max5c with jazz preset from their app and a antlion modmic

[unkempt lake]

Just looked it up

[unkempt lake]

Since when does ugreen make headphones

[ashen spindle]

write an email to [e-mail] and they can explain whatever is going on

[oak blaze]

My mom already tried it

Im so sad

It was so much Money

[ashen spindle]

when did you try sending the email

[oak blaze]

I didnt spend a Cent for whole 3 years straight

[unkempt lake]

@gusty nexus they ain't sold in canada

[oak blaze]

They Said it Spoiler Take Like 2 Montags

Months*

[unkempt lake]

At least i couldn't find it

[ashen spindle]

no I asked when did you last send them an email

[gusty nexus]

Not even on amazon ?

[oak blaze]

And on decber I think my mom send it bc it didnt came

[unkempt lake]

Just checked

[oak blaze]

My mom tried everything

[reef patrol]

Please don't tell people to email us.

Please use the website support system to create a ticket, @oak blaze

https://wooting.io/support

[ashen spindle]

didnt know thats changed xD shows how much I dont go outside of this channel

[oak blaze]

Thanks i guess

[reef patrol]

Also that email address is entirely wrong.

Wrong domain and everything.

[gusty nexus]

No, you can have really good sound, better than gaming headphone for 20 dollars btw

[ashen spindle]

was the first email I foud when looking for one because I didnt remember xD

[unkempt lake]

Find me some

That i can buy

Wireless

[gusty nexus]

Truthear gate or zero red and a Fifine am8, killer setup for gaming

[unkempt lake]

I want headphones not earbuds

...

[gusty nexus]

Koss ksc75

[unkempt lake]

...

You really don't underatand what i want

I asked for somethinng pretty simple

Good wireless over the ear headphones that don't cost as much as an audeze maxwell

[gusty nexus]

The ugreen headphone

[unkempt lake]

Yes the niche ugreen headphone that isn't sold here

I actually kinda want a maxwell i just don't know if i wanna drop 450cad on em

[gusty nexus]

There's also exist thing to make anything that is wired become wireless you know

[reef patrol]

Microsoft being shitters as usual.

[balmy vector]

maxwells i hear last so long

[unkempt lake]

You said you had decent options so I'm asking you

[balmy vector]

though im not a fan of leather like cups

mesh or velvet are my preferred pad materials

[umbral heron]

good
wireless
cheap
Pick two situation

[unkempt lake]

I saw some all over the place feedback on QC

[red acorn]

Their initial force feels heavier due to the extra-long 21mm spring, even though they have a 55g bottom-out force. I’m not a fan of long springs either and plan to swap them for 18mm 50g or 18mm 55g springs.

[unkempt lake]

It's what kinda makes me well not want to drop 450cad on em

• the weight

[gusty nexus]

You can't have something wireless and good for your money that is also cheap

[balmy vector]

yeah headband i hear is pretty easy to flake

[unkempt lake]

Poor QC is what keeps me hesitant

[gusty nexus]

Also I don't understand people playing games with wireless headphone, you will hear everything with a delay

[unkempt lake]

Comfort

[balmy vector]

im happy with wired, so my 560s are gonna be safe for now

[unkempt lake]

Delay is small enough i don't care

[gusty nexus]

They're very far from being comfortable you know, there's not a lot of wireless headphone that are comfortable

[unkempt lake]

Or i do dumb shit like walkaround with my headset on talking to people

I don't want to have to deal with a wire

[unkempt lake]

Its why i found the G733 from logitech, they weigh basically nothing sound good enough (not exceptional) and they're 2.4ghz wireless

And for the price i don't really have much to complain

I just... can't seem to find anything that ticks all the boxes

I want light i want comfort i want wireless

[gusty nexus]

Because a perfect product doesn't exist

[unkempt lake]

Even amongst more expensive products i can't seem to find what i want

[hidden edge]

I tried taking my switch out I put it upside down but the switch broke

[thin marsh]

helo

[gusty nexus]

You can make any wired headphone wireless with a bluetooth amp that has a battery attached to the headband of the headphone

[hidden edge]

You see the right one I can’t like grab the thing to pull it out

[unkempt lake]

Seems like a pain in the ass really

[umbral heron]

Stick BTR* to headphones

[thin marsh]

fiio makes good stuff

[gusty nexus]

Yeah

[thin marsh]

was actually planning to do this to my grado 60 headphones that i fixed with a galvanized steel wire bc the plastic bit holding the can* broke

[unkempt lake]

For 450$cad it better get close

[gusty nexus]

No perfect product exist, if it would the company selling it will go bankrupt because nobody will need to upgrade or changed their product
When you will try good audio stuff you will understand how bad your current gear is and you will never be able to go back after that imo

[unkempt lake]

Look

I just want comfort

And decent sound