🔌│tech

[marsh glade]

Yea not bad

[cursive summit]

Seems okay

What it should be in EU lol, and I am still seeing GPUs at MINIMUM of 850 EUR

What's AUD? A currency for a country that doesn't exist?

[astral haven]

ltt tested it actually! mainstream coverage!

[lyric hatch]

Converting from $600 USD to $1044 adding 15% for GST we're at 1200 NZD - so only overpaying by 120NZD or ~70USD

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but ltt doesn’t have a reputation of numbers being accurate lol

Also the ffmpeg version that ltt used is 18 months old

[lyric hatch]

Actually if you slap the import fee on as well that's basically MSRP in the US

[wheat plume]

🤢

first it infected the keyboard, not its infecting the body of the computer itself .-.

[cursive summit]

You mean the copilot key?

That's ass yeah

[wheat plume]

It's like having a dedicated Bonzie Buddy button on your eMachines PC.
SO TRUE

[cursive summit]

At first I thought you hated the USB-C port

[wheat plume]

LOL

usb c is AMAZING

FINGERPRINT SCANNER 😍

https://youtu.be/usOsRKEr4gI

[cursive summit]

https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-25-3-1.html

[ashen spindle]

biometrics scanner on a pc

[cursive summit]

AMD Fluid Motion Frames 2.1

Improved frame generation image quality with reduced ghosting and better temporal tracking.
Support for AMD Radeon™ RX 6000, 7000, 9070 series graphics cards and AMD Ryzen™ AI 300 Series processors

That sounds really good

[wheat plume]

wish my laptop had one ;-;

entering my long ass password to unlock is annoying

[cursive summit]

That's a lot of issues

[cursive summit]

Useful for banking

[wheat plume]

.....bruh

[leaden kiln]

my laptop has a fingerprint scanner I can't use and windows hello that rarely works

[astral haven]

i like this, this seems specific, before amd had problems with so much stuff they wouldnt have been able to make a short list

[ashen spindle]

not a lot of issues just a lot of text

last point ont he list isnt even issue but a notice

[wheat plume]

Can't use?

[astral haven]

"intermittent black screens with any monitors that use hdmi or displayport" would be dramatically worse than anything shown here

[ashen spindle]

like oh no, what an issue

[wheat plume]

Isn't that most monitores?!?!

[astral haven]

its all monitors for these cards

[wheat plume]

Yeh....

[unkempt lake]

Better than the last nvidia driver

Bsod if hdr on

Black screens

[astral haven]

no

hello fingerprint sensors do not use drivers

[unkempt lake]

They fixed the final fantasy 7 rebirth bug that caused it to crash after long game sessions

Which... yes ok it took me 8 hours to crash but i lost 30 mins of progress

[astral haven]

if your fingerprint sensor needs a driver, it isnt hello compatible, its something else

[unkempt lake]

AFMF 2.1

IM HAPPY

YAYYYY BETTER MOTION CLARITY

[wheat plume]

Odd
Did you try to see if your laptop brand has specific drivers for it?

Now I wonder if it'll work on Fedora.... Xd

[leaden kiln]

I recall checking if it was supported by fprint, and I believe it wasn't

[unkempt lake]

Moumou drivers

its a cat but its not moumou

I should take a pic of moumou in panorama mode

Long mou

https://www.pcguide.com/news/poor-performance-hasnt-stopped-monster-hunter-wilds-from-being-a-top-3-steam-deck-game/

Deck players confuse me

Its not fucking playable

Literally

[nimble arch]

But they're literally playing it

[unkempt lake]

MH on steam deck

vs

Mh on 3ds

I JUST SHOWED YOU THE 3DS

IT LOOKS BETTER

[astral haven]

dangit low spec alex removed all his old videos 😦

[undone sun]

could be because its the best hand held ever made

[astral haven]

lets just say that some people actively dont care about the appearance

[unkempt lake]

at least on psp you can... SEE THE CHARACTER MODELS

they have clear outlines

There was no og ds game

I care about seeing what im doing

And having a stable 30 which those games did!

[astral haven]

welllllll

[astral haven]

noone really measured performance back in those days, alot of them would drop pretty awfully when actually measured like is possible now

[trim crane]

didn't monitors unboxed and badseed tech say it works on all gpus nvidia or not as long as freesync or VRR is off?

like, can you turn off freesync completely on AMD or no?

[bright briar]

damn scalpers

[astral haven]

yea but im pretty sure it doesnt actually disable it on the monitor side

thats not how it works 🤷

the signal that vrr uses is different from standard monitor working signal

freesync off still has vrr on but with the signal locked to the max

gsync off uses the standard monitor signal

even if its a freesync monitor

its not, and it doesnt matter if its nvidia gsync or gsync compatible

dont worry about it, this behavior doesnt change depending on monitor on nvidia

[bright briar]

9070xt is more of a 4k card then 1440p correct?

[astral haven]

depends on hz

[bright briar]

ohh i see

fml thinking of just going to grab me a white 9070xt if i can but they most likely sold out😭

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro/images/minimum-fps-2560-1440.png

heck if youve got a 480hz+ monitor its not even a 1080p card lel https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro/images/average-fps-per-game-1920-1080.png

[misty matrix]

lmao epic fail from amd yet again this card cant run games maxed at 1080p 480+ hz lmao wtf

[unkempt lake]

Not scalpers not bots its just demand

[pale sigil]

What

[unkempt lake]

Twitter

[pale sigil]

Yes

[unkempt lake]

But its ok

I got someone else to check

[gusty kiln]

7900xtx are generally gone

And were 900+ on average

That's a top end model though

7900xtx top end models where over 1000

In usd

Eu just got the short end of the stock this launch

Most of the good msrp cards went to the USA and mostly to microcenter

[unkempt lake]

nah there was stock

Most people just didn't try

[whole axle]

Closest microcenter is 8 hrs from me

Roadtrip

[unkempt lake]

They were in stock online... ALL MORNING

you didn't have to go to microcenter

[whole axle]

Nope

For me gone in 1 min.

[unkempt lake]

checks 1 site omg is gone ):):):):):

[whole axle]

Right

Cuz I’m a retard?

[unkempt lake]

Yep

[whole axle]

Totally

[unkempt lake]

You're the one who said it not me

[whole axle]

For sure

[unkempt lake]

If you question your intelligence, must be a reason

[whole axle]

Yep

[astral haven]

remember tho, this is ~2 months of post launch stock equivalent due to the launch being delayed

[unkempt lake]

Yep there was high demand

But they were in stock long enough for someone to buy one

Coulda bought one at 66cad over msrp at 11:20am this morning

There was plenty of stock

[astral haven]

someone who wasnt working at the time...

[unkempt lake]

A 2 hour window... just order it on your phone real quick

It doesn't take ages

[astral haven]

ah yes lets just lose the job that i need to pay for a graphics card that also is flagship priced

old flagship maybe but still more than console alone

[unkempt lake]

Go to the restroom take 5 mins to do it

shrugs

[leaden kiln]

smh i don't have cell in the bathroom

[bright briar]

dashi hangy

[unkempt lake]

Take your coffee break early

Idk

It's not like its impossible

[astral haven]

of course you also had to be following this closely to know when to...

[unkempt lake]

Same applies to every gpu launch

[astral haven]

no?

[unkempt lake]

20 series was the last gpu i got on launch day, experience was similar

Unless you're going back to like... 10 series preorders?

[astral haven]

while it does now, this is a new thing that started with 10 series that you had nothing even for midrange

before that it was only the halo card that was unavailable on launch

[bright briar]

god i miss the days when you could preorder stuff without it selling out in seconds

good ol days

[astral haven]

on the other hand, preorders bad

[bright briar]

depends on the situation

i guess

[gentle osprey]

So how are the 9070XT sales going? Are they actually available at MSRP or are they all $800-900 like I guessed?

[gusty kiln]

You can only reliably get msrp at microcenter

Online and eu is kill

[gentle osprey]

Gotcha

[bright briar]

someone here bought one for 820usd

[gusty kiln]

Cal manage to get a msrp card

[gentle osprey]

Nice

[gusty kiln]

@umbral heron

[gentle osprey]

Ew @ the $820

[bright briar]

lol

[gusty kiln]

My local microcenter still have msrp models

[bright briar]

thats with tax though

[gentle osprey]

So like $770?

[gusty kiln]

Certain models are sold out, like the nitro

[bright briar]

maybe they got warranty too

[gentle osprey]

$770 is still high imo

[bright briar]

the way gpu prices are going that price aint too bad

[gentle osprey]

Yeah current market is rough

[bright briar]

fr

[gentle osprey]

I think it’s a solid card for the current market but pricing might hurt it

Not gonna be enough to convert people to AMD I don’t think

[gusty kiln]

If I didn't buy a 4070 ti super last year. I would be buying this right now

[bright briar]

hopefully they go back to making high end gpu

[gusty kiln]

700 usd max cause I'm willing to pay for a nicer model

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

[bright briar]

i heard 4070ti super is the best bang for your buck compared to owning a 4080 super

is that true?

[gusty kiln]

Is about the same value

[gentle osprey]

I’m pretty sure it is but I’d have to look at the numbers

[bright briar]

they need to lower these gpu prices though. Whats the point to upgrading to be playing games thats poorly optimized and run like shit

[gusty kiln]

I bought the 4070 ti super cuz my gpu only had 2 pcie power connector

[bright briar]

i guess thats just going to be the new standard for gaming which sucks

[bright briar]

what did you have before hand?

[gusty kiln]

2080

[gentle osprey]

Yeah iirc the 4070TI Super is like the main card that Hardware Unboxed recommended during 40 series

[bright briar]

big upgrade

[gusty kiln]

Yeah it was about 2x increase

[astral haven]

idk if it was here that i said it, the inflation that people dont talk about is monitor inflation
people are expecting to be able to run new games with new much higher spec monitors at the same price

[bright briar]

free shipping from israel

[astral haven]

tel aviv is the 3rd silicon valley of the world... they might even have passed the netherlands

[gusty kiln]

That's why I want more variety in dual mode monitor. 4k 120/ 1080p240 360 is a lot more reasonable

[astral haven]

theres no point when the monitor chips can run 4k240

[unkempt lake]

Canada had msrp stock at mem express till 11am

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I’m waiting for 4K 240 , but those 5K2K 165hz seem interesting too

[unkempt lake]

Newegg canada dried within 5 mins of msrp cards

Canada computers lasted like 2 hours

[gentle osprey]

Ah okay nice

Yeah I just feel like if the 9070xt is $800+ USD

Not worth

[unkempt lake]

Cheapest was 884cad for the XFX swift 618usd

Then there were asus prime and gigabyte models for 950cad/664usd

[gentle osprey]

Ah okay not bad

[unkempt lake]

Ye launch went well here as long as you avoided newegg and amazon

XD

[gentle osprey]

Why did they not have MSRP models or did they sell out fast?

[unkempt lake]

They vanished within 5 mins and only had the overprice 1200cad big oc fancy models

[gentle osprey]

Ah yeah

[unkempt lake]

At amazon and newegg canada

Basically no stock on those

[astral haven]

us doesnt include taxes in msrp, so civilized countries that do will have a higher base price

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

[unkempt lake]

We don't include tax in msrp either

We don't include taxes in prices

[astral haven]

well you include import taxes, and not being the correct currency taxes 😛

[unkempt lake]

Oh

Thought you meant sales tax

[astral haven]

that will apply for eurofolks

[livid ruin]

anyone here that knows alot of iems?

and is high in fps shooters?

[sudden imp]

https://preview.redd.it/this-is-hilarious-micro-center-illinois-v0-7gzmmvhdn1ne1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1be1a64c63613f8c940de6815f95396d79dc6195

That’s actually crazy

[livid ruin]

ye

i need great iems for fps shooters mainly val

uh 150 euros or 200

[astral haven]

are you outfitting an entire team or?

nah you want as natural as possible, so its as accurate as possible for hrtf

[livid ruin]

i just want to almost perfectly know where people are

[rough osprey]

wallhack

[astral haven]

usually when you have the budget you go headphones, are you actually competing so you need something that fits under the tournament noise cancelling headphones?

[steady sail]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/retailer-claims-nvidia-is-recalling-large-number-of-rtx-5090-graphics-cards-due-to-fire-hazard/ too lazy to check if someone posted it already or not

[livid ruin]

no just for comfort mainlt

[astral haven]

do you really want to spend the cash? because you can probably tip roll those into what you want

[balmy vector]

Hexa? Why not octa

[astral haven]

im pretty sure the quintet reviewed better than those

they already have them

[magic minnow]

I’m glad I didn’t try to get one

[steady sail]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-rtx-50-laptop-gpus-also-hit-by-missing-rops-production-delays-expected and this as well

[astral haven]

might have to spend $30 or 40 on tips to find ones that fit best, but something like the azla asmr or or some foams

read

[livid ruin]

what should i get then?

[astral haven]

oh wait thats you

[steady sail]

[livid ruin]

ye but just for footsteps and ye idk

[astral haven]

i very much like my truthear nova, but they are not at all 3x better than the truthear blues, and apparently the truthear red are better than blue

so you need to tip roll with them
🤷

[livid ruin]

ye but not all are good for footsteps

[astral haven]

when you are spending more than $20 and getting something currently in meta, they all are

[livid ruin]

like?

[astral haven]

I bet the hola would also be plenty for what you want

[livid ruin]

they better than the gate?

truthear gate

[astral haven]

i think the hola might have been discontinued and replaced with the gate

[livid ruin]

could be

and the simgot em6L

i live in the eu so its in euros

[leaden kiln]

I have a pair of the gate
they fit pretty well and sound fine, fit is better than reds for me

[astral haven]

looks quite excellent

[livid ruin]

ye so wich ?

and those better then the hexa?

are you telling me out of a music perspective or a gaming one

[astral haven]

the more accurate it is to the music, the better it is for gaming

at least with the current accuracy meta in music

[livid ruin]

ye but will that be the case for telling where people are and supper far

these ould also

[astral haven]

nova are fantastic, they are what i bought and now use the most

[livid ruin]

huh?

so wich is most worth my money

[gusty kiln]

I'm interested to see crin's new brand iem

[zenith silo]

Truth ear zero red 🔥 🔥

[lyric hatch]

I just wait for those linsoul sales

[livid ruin]

ye ik but the qc on simgot is pretty wack ive heard

this to power and maybe hear myself

[leaden kiln]

I got mine during the black friday sell on the hangout

[livid ruin]

yea but the cable is also to short

i need a longer cable then

[zenith silo]

Apple dac is so quiet on my pc + cable is too short

I use my ek10

But i already had it for my sennheisers

[astral haven]

definetly not, eu

[zenith silo]

I'm Canadian so idk which I have 🤷

Probably eu if that's the case

[astral haven]

us one is also very janky

[livid ruin]

i live in the eu

this

[astral haven]

but the audient is really there for Mic and volume knob

[leaden kiln]

never felt like my apple dac was quiet and I'm eu

[livid ruin]

but the apple dongle is not good in eu

[astral haven]

no, all usbc ones are, but theres wonky compatibility stuff

[leaden kiln]

how late

I've only heard people say they're quiet on android

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/a-jlS_OlSUg?si=jAD2Dt0bynFgpYSn

[leaden kiln]

bought mine last year and use it on my pc

[astral haven]

also the limitation is only voltage, so it doesnt really limit you for super low impedance or high sensitivity units

[astral haven]

android has extra limitations on top of .5v

and its 500mv

[nimble arch]

Imagine buying a new laptop, setting everything up and then having to RMA over an NVIDIA hardware defect.

[astral haven]

but 1v is standard expected, so most stuff needs double the volume slider

[livid ruin]

can also get this

[astral haven]

that will work fine

[leaden kiln]

I finally got some items that fit me well, but I don't love how they sound, but I don't know many sets with a similar shape to the ke4 that aren't crazy expensive

[livid ruin]

so last thing the simgot supermix 4 or the truthear nova

[astral haven]

for iems you can also tip roll

[astral haven]

i personally went nova

[lyric hatch]

They are very similar but the simgots have a smaller bore size so that would be what I would prefer

[livid ruin]

isnt it wierd to talk with iems ?

[balmy vector]

If it seals right, youll be fine. I have hearing aids so i know too well the feeling

[livid ruin]

is there a grill for if there get dirt in it or so

idk

[umbral heron]

Oooo, audiophiles on tech again

[balmy vector]

The filters are standard stuff

[livid ruin]

alr

[balmy vector]

Can i be an audiophile if i have hearing dmg

Thanks cals

I’m a deer audiogaming audiophile

[umbral heron]

Just be obnoxious enough and claim that you hear the difference between FLAC and DSD or between normal and oxygen-free copper and you'll fit right in

[balmy vector]

Ahh i see

Would the beginning point being that “i can hear a difference at 96khz audio sampling in windows”

Mmmmyes

[old marlin]

generic cx31993 dong

[livid ruin]

huh

[old marlin]

that is the chip used

you can get them on amazon, sure as hell beats shipping from singapore

[livid ruin]

oh

its free shipping i thinj

[umbral heron]

Though I love my MiniFuse 1

[old marlin]

oh yea then you might include it ig

[old marlin]

as an output? 💀

[balmy vector]

What are you fusing that is so mini?

Is it miku? In your audio?

[old marlin]

it is mini in comparson to this

[umbral heron]

As input
And USB passthrough to KA17, which is the output

[old marlin]

ah

[balmy vector]

Oh thats cute

[old marlin]

600€ btw

[balmy vector]

[unkempt lake]

Without sales tax

[balmy vector]

She is everywhere

But especially in your wifi

[unkempt lake]

Sales tax ranges between 5 and 15% depending on your province

[umbral heron]

But honestly for gaming or watching youtube output from it is okay

[leaden kiln]

I hope I can find her at magical mirai this year

[old marlin]

yea

[balmy vector]

Miku beam into your device

[balmy vector]

@magic minnow miku oiia

[leaden kiln]

I heard popping in my ears after updating the firmware on my fiio btr11 and I only found the older firmwares on a forum 💀

[umbral heron]

[old marlin]

firmware of my smsl su-8 is: yes

[leaden kiln]

downgraded from 00.01.02.07 to 00.01.02.06 and so far so good

hope that it doesn't come back and that it was the fw

I also wish their firmware was easier to find on their website

[marsh glade]

Surprised that this didn't summon Raquel immediately

[bright briar]

shes in the walls always watching

[marsh glade]

Thems fightin words

[unkempt lake]

She didn't even get summonned by my eevee

[balmy vector]

Raquel working hard in infinity nikki

[rough osprey]

big knob dac amp best

[old marlin]

barely big enough tbh

kinda need to upgrade, thanks for telling me

[rough osprey]

why they stackin two of the same

[old marlin]

it's just the two colors

[rough osprey]

imma run that stack

[old marlin]

it's a porduct image not any user image

I mean ig technically you could

porduct

[rough osprey]

what u gotta upgrade there

[old marlin]

knob size

[rough osprey]

oh true

[old marlin]

(I ordered a different cable tho)

[lyric hatch]

Knob

[rough osprey]

i got that one...

[old marlin]

the openheart one is perfectly fine but I hate how much noise it makes when rubbing against it

[rough osprey]

but its not good knob

[lyric hatch]

What's wrong with knob

[rough osprey]

no steps

and not that linear

[old marlin]

I don't want steps

on an amp

[gusty kiln]

It's a digital knob

Perfect channel balance

[rough osprey]

steps are best

[old marlin]

yea but an amp should be an entirely analog device

[lyric hatch]

Yeah I don't want steps

[rough osprey]

😡

[zenith silo]

Nah smooth knob best

[rough osprey]

yall are #wrong

[gusty kiln]

Well a adc knob

[leaden kiln]

steps is crazy

[rough osprey]

also that knob has some play

[gusty kiln]

Imagine the perfect volume being in-between steps

[old marlin]

it's just more grating if it has steps

if it is a pot it should not have steps

[gusty kiln]

Jds labs have the biggest knob

[rough osprey]

its never

[old marlin]

yea but the element is a downgrade for me

[rough osprey]

can they exchange knob with this

[old marlin]

actually, I can't plug my headphones into any of their amps

[gusty kiln]

I want an r2r dac and a full class a amp as a fuck you money upgrade

[rough osprey]

there are cheap r2rs now

[gusty kiln]

But I want individual resistors

[gusty kiln]

4.4 is king

[umbral heron]

How well can you handle soldering iron?

[rough osprey]

congrats

[gusty kiln]

Kek, gotta measure each resistor as well to match them on pairs

[old marlin]

rebel amp is relatively cheap

[gusty kiln]

I remember z review shilling for them and then they feel off the face of the earth

[old marlin]

[rough osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-duimen-omhoog-daumen-hoch-tikibad-duinrell-gif-16812063

[gusty kiln]

Made that one amp and never did anything again

[old marlin]

they only do 6.3 output

[zenith silo]

Take my money

[rough osprey]

i will built it

[gusty kiln]

If I had fuck you money, it would be the holo audio bliss + may

[umbral heron]

[reef patrol]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-rtx-50-laptop-gpus-also-hit-by-missing-rops-production-delays-expected

Oh noes 😄

[gusty kiln]

https://images.app.goo.gl/UNnXGwmQ9v7DsEWeA

[old marlin]

technically only one ROP is missing, nvidia just multiplies it by 8 since every rop can do 8 operations per tick

[old marlin]

very fancy

[gusty kiln]

Look how clean that pcb layout is

Probably doesn't actually improve the sound

But I want it as a flex piece

[old marlin]

it might, but

I feel like I am very fine with where I am at with audio atm

got other things to worry about

and I LOVE my philphones

[gusty kiln]

Yeah, hard to verify claims when things cost multiple grands

[old marlin]

oh yea, if I want an actual upgrade I would prob need to spend a grand at the minimum

[gusty kiln]

I have 6xx + k7 atm

Pretty fine with that

3khz is unironically one of the most important frequency

[old marlin]

atm using the su-8+a30 pro and my freshly modified philphones

used the 6xx before that because the ad700x frame of the philphones was unbearable

[gusty kiln]

Yeah old audio technica design were weird

Ah

[old marlin]

dw by the time you can afford it you lost more than 3khz of frequency in your hearing

[gusty kiln]

Kek

[old marlin]

they still are questionable to me sometimes

like this thing

[gusty kiln]

I want sennheiser to make a higher end version of the 490 pros

[old marlin]

very recent high end thing from them

[old marlin]

ngl they seem pretty dope as is

but also remember, 2 sennheisers now

[gusty kiln]

Apparently they are very comfortable

Yeah

[old marlin]

HD490 Pro and HD660S2 is from 2 different companies afaik

[gusty kiln]

Yeah one of them is professional and the other owned by a hearing aid company

[old marlin]

yea

friend of mine is doing some work for the latter

[gusty kiln]

Ooo

Any leaks

[old marlin]

no

[gusty kiln]

[old marlin]

he is more in research for the hearing aid stuff

[gusty kiln]

Ahhh

[old marlin]

but if I didn't have philphones the things I would take a look at now would be HD490 Pros and Fiio FT3s

the FT3s apparently are really good

even tho they look stupid

[gusty kiln]

Ft3 looks a bit muddy in the bass

[old marlin]

like wtf is this

[gusty kiln]

But never heard it

[old marlin]

yea philhpone FR also looks weird

but they sound incredible

[gusty kiln]

Ft7 coming soon

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-let-him-cook-cook-toy-story-woody-gif-27345024

[gusty kiln]

I'm very interested in that

[balmy vector]

Hold on i like the looks

[old marlin]

oh damn FT7 looks cool

but planar always is a bit sus

[gusty kiln]

Yeah, planar magnetic

[wind parrot]

planar magnetic is goated imo

[gusty kiln]

Planar is so hit or miss of they have any dynamics

[old marlin]

yea idk

I did not like most planars I listened to tbh

[gusty kiln]

Like either no impact at all or causing an earth quake

[old marlin]

yea

and I typically either preferred dynamics or even cheap estats

[gusty kiln]

Stax had a budget option recently

[old marlin]

oh

oh no, is it on ear

[wind parrot]

my hifimans sound really nice compared to every other headphone ive tried

[gusty kiln]

The sr1?

[old marlin]

yea

[balmy vector]

Can i eat them?

[wind parrot]

if you want to :3

[balmy vector]

[gusty kiln]

Huh looks like a normal full size but I guess the picture is deceiving

[old marlin]

I think it is full size

image made it look small I think

SRS-X1000 is like 1.1k€

[gusty kiln]

Does that include the energizer

[old marlin]

yea that is the set

[gusty kiln]

Not to bad then

[old marlin]

I might look for a used one

[wheat plume]

🤔 I wonder if Nvidia can sue this app developer for making their app UI basically the same as ShadowPlay's UI?!

[ashen spindle]

no

[wind parrot]

nah

[wheat plume]

its basically identical

[gusty kiln]

Lol you can't patent colors and shapes

[old marlin]

you can trademark them tho

don't think nvidia did tho

[wind parrot]

i dont think thjey care

[wheat plume]

Apple can apparently, they sued a 5 team startup for using a pear logo cause they thought it was too similar to their apple logo

[old marlin]

prob not

[ashen spindle]

its also the old overlay so they would care even less

[wheat plume]

oh?

[old marlin]

the logo is trademarked + apple likes to sue

[wheat plume]

theres a new one?

[old marlin]

and has infinite money

[wheat plume]

but a green pear cannot be mistaken for a monochrome apple

[gusty kiln]

Yeah just don't step on apple, Disney, and Nintendo toes

[old marlin]

apple has a lot of iterations of their logo

but also apple is just really eager to sue

[ashen spindle]

its also not a logo nor something that would make people think they are going to buy an nvidia product based on seing that

[old marlin]

yea

nvidia could potentially trademark their color and the individual shapes of the buttons etc and then they might have legal ground

[gusty kiln]

Nvidia could threaten, but nothing would come if it in court

[old marlin]

but then court could still just say it's too generic

local industrial cabinet company for example has a trademark on a certain shade of pink

it is all over their production and marketing

(and products as well as an accent color)

I mean that prob ends up being up for the court to decide

if they want that trademark in they prob can, but if it holds up is another question

[gusty kiln]

Are those fanuc robots

Or kuka

[ashen spindle]

there probably could be some way but neither has nvidia nor anyone else made attempts to trademark it nor would there be a reason for it

[old marlin]

unsure actually

[gusty kiln]

So what's the rest of the story with the color

[old marlin]

if the company weren't so stupidly huge it would prob be easier to find out but afaik they produce on any continent except antarctica

[old marlin]

they always had a colorful logo and I think they just wanted a striking color

[gusty kiln]

Screams the 80s

[old marlin]

the logo, yea

most of their stuff is like dark gray/black and pink

oh and white

[gusty kiln]

Like the k pop group

[old marlin]

yea but earlier and a LOT more succesful

[gusty kiln]

Kekekekekekekek

[old marlin]

like this is one of the most profitable german companies

[gusty kiln]

Damn even more than seimenns?

[old marlin]

nah

siemens is super critical infracstructure

like you can order an entire power plant from them etc

or a fridge

[gusty kiln]

Kek

[leaden kiln]

a bunch of stuff at my workplace has their logo on it

[gusty kiln]

A friend of mine worked there for a bit

[balmy vector]

Can i order miku from them

[gusty kiln]

They do share similar colors schemes

[old marlin]

not surprising

[balmy vector]

[leaden kiln]

they do locks or something right
I think they're on the doors of our bystronic machines

[old marlin]

just checked, they are very much in the same ballpark tho

[old marlin]

electronics cabinets

[gusty kiln]

Damn

[gusty kiln]

https://images.app.goo.gl/Z6UGArPyRyRyjUhJ9

[leaden kiln]

oh the whole cabinet

[gusty kiln]

They also sometimes use gray

[old marlin]

yea

[gusty kiln]

Basically miku color

[old marlin]

technically "furniture" in the US for tax reasons

[gusty kiln]

The company I work for probably work with both of those company alot

[old marlin]

the place I used to work at did a lot of stuff for rittal

afaik was the largest non-automotive, construction or general fastener customer we had

[pearl eagle]

if i go for 9 fans and already have 3 on the aio how much normal ones and reverse ones do i need to buy? 3&3?

[leaden kiln]

I hate making cabinets
because they want stuff to actually fit, and we have to run everything through the deburring machine so they aren't sharp

[old marlin]

how should we know that

[old marlin]

[pearl eagle]

how can i know that

[old marlin]

idk, what case do you have

[pearl eagle]

o11 vision compact

[old marlin]

but you don't "need' reverse flow at all

[wind parrot]

o11 dynamic above every case ever

[old marlin]

nah

[wind parrot]

its just... simply put. dynamic.

[ashen spindle]

just get fans that you want for looks because it sounds like for airflow you dont need them at all

[gusty kiln]

How many meters of din rails have you seen in your life

[old marlin]

well what config do you wanna run

do you want the glass top, do you want the rear fans

[leaden kiln]

not that many I don't think

[pearl eagle]

i guess mesh top

and 9800x3d and 2070 till u pgrade

[leaden kiln]

we make like small metal huts with transformers

[wheat plume]

is this legit? 2/70 flagged it as malicious so idk
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f21442782f59a140c58e4ef7c9a4a46c239eec4bbf884d452fdf88b25bbe685e/details

[old marlin]

ngl I prob have seen more meters of expensive hardening oven belt that DIN rail

[gusty kiln]

Lol

Probably just get lian li fans if it want the looks

[old marlin]

both are machine learning so prob not malicious

[wheat plume]

dafuq

[old marlin]

man just thinking back on that piece of crap makes me grin

was one of the largest hardening ovens in europe, largest one of the manufacturer

designed for a single specific class of parts

and that specific class of parts caused issues with it

and every time it did cause issues it was 2-3 weeks of downtime

[balmy vector]

Perfect

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/2HjnByG7AXY?si=t1aXSXwxMZo2aT7Z

[leaden kiln]

I only have to think back to today to get to a piece of crap
our punch machine stops multiple times a day and it's so old and breaks constantly

[unkempt lake]

9070xt nitro doesn't have current balancing

Fucking lmao

[leaden kiln]

we have a lot of meters of some plastic routing rails but I don't work with it much

[wind parrot]

!

[balmy vector]

Dashi once again being hit with the recycling ♻️

[unkempt lake]

You can push close to 400w with the oc 3x8pin variants of the 9070xt if you push the power likit manually

[unkempt lake]

and again i am trash

Not recycle

[balmy vector]

Gotta get a Moumou emote of trash can

[unkempt lake]

If i have one it will be added to the server

[steady sail]

there is a server for moumou

[bright briar]

yes have mou face and the arrows be tuna going in a circle

[balmy vector]

Shrimp circle

[old marlin]

shrimple

[unkempt lake]

moumou secret club

[wind parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[rain quiver]

I wanted to get the nitro+ but its too expensive so i got a different one for msrp

[wheat plume]

why TF is Calculator and Characters running in the background?!?!

[balmy vector]

Its thinking

About numbers

[unkempt lake]

what happenned to your 4090

[nimble arch]

What distro are you running anyway?

[wheat plume]

Bazzite cause im using my Steam Deck rn

[rain quiver]

I sold it yesterday

[unkempt lake]

why

[rain quiver]

Because i only paid $1350 for it 6 weeks ago and people are paying $2000+ for it now

So the 9070xt was free

[nimble arch]

It's free real estate

[rain quiver]

And the 9070xt is only a temporary until i manage to get a 50 series for msrp

Or another 4090 for cheap

[unkempt lake]

imagine buying 50 series

[rain quiver]

I mean its not bad for msrp

[unkempt lake]

yeah sure, missing rops melting connectors black screens...

really good series

[rain quiver]

Good if they work

[wheat plume]

if

[rain quiver]

If not you return

/rma

Its not like im gonna get lucky and buy one anyways

[unkempt lake]

then they blame customer induced damage and try to screw you

[rain quiver]

Unless nvidia emails me

[rain quiver]

Only if you buy from shitty brands, i only buy FE

[nimble arch]

I'm eyeing an AMD GPU for whenever I upgrade my 4090 FE

Also eyeing a move to Linux so that'll pair quite nicely

Unless NVIDIA stop being petty about Linux drivers

[rain quiver]

[lyric hatch]

For what most people need it for the Nvidia linux drivers are fine as is they aren't going to bother improving them

[ashen spindle]

from shitty brands, so like the FE that has the worst power balancing and thust the most 12pin issues? xD

[rain quiver]

We talking about customer support

[sudden imp]

My first pc had weird unexplained crashing issues and what fixed it was switching to an AMD card

[astral haven]

they support their customers if they are on a distro

[sudden imp]

it was so weird so imma be honest i've had nothing but good expirences with AMD

[astral haven]

overall bad experiences with gpus are about even between nvidia and amd

[lyric hatch]

Depends on which generation you adopted in

[astral haven]

the problem however is that nvidia sells 4x or more the gpus

[lyric hatch]

Right now I'd say yeah

[astral haven]

nah just looking general overall count of people whining online

its always been about even

[lyric hatch]

Well if you were around during 5700xt there was a lot more then usual

[nimble arch]

I had a 3.5GB 970

[astral haven]

used to slightly tilt nvidia but that was when there was even less radeon

[rain quiver]

My microcenter had alot of stock ngl

[nimble arch]

The GTX 970 was actually a top tier GPU, IMHO, and I never really suffered from their VRAM shenanigans

[lyric hatch]

Was more false advertising then a fault with the card

[astral haven]

it was false advertising in the same way that bulldozer was falsely stating core counts

[unkempt lake]

back then it was pretty rare to go over 3.5gb

[astral haven]

technically correct but a dick move

[astral haven]

its still rare now if you are looking at equivalent compute power to the 970 (aka around igpu tier)

[unkempt lake]

personally switching between both... always kinda felt similar

[astral haven]

i always had more problems with amd, and my gpu collection has alot newer amd gpus than nvidia ones

[ashen spindle]

I had like no problems with either till the 4090

[lyric hatch]

Depends what you were doing, If you were into VR those early years with AMD were pretty rough

[unkempt lake]

but my last radeon gpu was a 270x that had bad memory chips, store was out of stock and offered me a 760 4gb and back then i was like ooo ok ill take it

until well i swapped my 2080 for a 7900xtx

[astral haven]

the only experience ive ever had as bad as the 7990 on nvidia was on the 6800 ultra and that was a 20 year old gpu at the time vs a 10 year old one and the few older radeon gpus ive used were all pain too
the least pain i had on radeon was my nano

[rain quiver]

My 6950xt was good but the 7900xt and xtx were shit, 4080 super and 4090 were perfect and now im hoping the 9070xt wont give me the same issues

[astral haven]

why downgrade?

[rain quiver]

Cuz this

[lyric hatch]

Gpu market be crazy that's why

[astral haven]

ah

smart

[unkempt lake]

my most frustrating gpu problem was with my 2080, an issue with gsync
whenever i'd try to cold boot my pc i'd just get a nice pink display if gsync was on
then i'd hit the reset switch on the pc and it'd boot normally

only did this on cold boots when gsync was on

and only with that monitor

[rain quiver]

Dude who bought it said its for some ai project then i saw him at the microcenter returning a 5080 to buy a 9070xt

[unkempt lake]

was frustrating cuz i had 3 of them lol

[rain quiver]

He said he got a 5090 fe too, gotta be a scalper

[unkempt lake]

they ended up patching it

took them months tho

[astral haven]

afaik amd never patched the old gpus into working with vr again

fixed on new cards tho

[rain quiver]

And i havent been playing much lately so i dont need anything crazy

[rain quiver]

I hope they fixed the driver timeouts and all that

[astral haven]

they now finally have telemetry so you can report when something goes wrong

trying to compete with nvidia without telemetry to fix bugs was just so obviously braindead

[rain quiver]

Is amd chat new

I dont remember it

[unkempt lake]

yep

[astral haven]

meh just use a real ai app

[unkempt lake]

one of the exclusive features

your own chat gpt crap

[rain quiver]

This is useless i can just use the overlay

But i see the vision

[unkempt lake]

ask it to overclock for you

lmao im curious what it will say

will it give you instructions lol

[analog sinew]

ask it to increase power limit to 200%

[rain quiver]

Oh you can actually make it enable stuff lmao

So dumb

[rain quiver]

Ok bet

Useless

[unkempt lake]

damn

[rain quiver]

Yeah its scared

[ashen spindle]

good, there is a reason AI is banned in the OC server as well xD

[unkempt lake]

i thought it would try doing something like idk use the big red AUTO OVERCLOCK button in the amd adrenaline software

[weak schooner]

Amd software and functional. Pick one.

[rain quiver]

Is that safe

I wanna oc this card

But should i wait for proper videos or just do the auto one

[unkempt lake]

i mean it's like nvidia oc scanner

doing it yourself will give better results but

the auto one is safe

[rain quiver]

Idk how im just wondering if its safe

If so ill use it until videos come out

[unkempt lake]

its very mild and gentle

[rain quiver]

Bet its better than nothing

[analog sinew]

uwu

[unkempt lake]

As of late it's inverted

[rain quiver]

Why are mine different

[steady sail]

oh true im gonna manage to get a 7900 xt in a weekish time

and fix a few things in my pc

[magic minnow]

It’s like an employee asking you to work harder than you already are

Computer components have feelings too

[unkempt lake]

how would i know

i have an xtx not a 9070xt

im guessing favor performance and favor efficiency are just power limits

[rain quiver]

Is your app up to date

[unkempt lake]

and then overclock actually touches your clocks

[unkempt lake]

yes

[rain quiver]

I dont care about its feelings

[rain quiver]

[pale sigil]

I think I'm getting buyers remorse?

[unkempt lake]

you havent even received it

[rain quiver]

What did you buy

[rain quiver]

One came out today

[pale sigil]

Ye but im questioning if I need it dd

[unkempt lake]

...

it's the same one

you dumbo

[pale sigil]

9070xt MSRP

[steady sail]

its new to the 9070 gpu's i guess xd

[rain quiver]

Why you regret it if its for msrp

[pale sigil]

I have a 3080

[rain quiver]

Then sell the 3080

[pale sigil]

Well ye that's the plan

[rain quiver]

Thats like $350

So the gpu was 300

[unkempt lake]

thats if he can sell it for 350$

xddd

[pale sigil]

They sell for around £350 here

[rain quiver]

Why not

[pale sigil]

Based on sold eBay listings

[unkempt lake]

before the release

after the release

price will tank

more supply less demand

[pale sigil]

Not really

[unkempt lake]

its basic economics

[rain quiver]

Basic economics dont apply to gpus

[pale sigil]

It won't tank

[steady sail]

im happy if i get like 200 euro for my 6700 xt

and i might have to go lower

[pale sigil]

I will most definitely be trying to sell the bday I get my 9070xr

I paid for next day and it said it would arrive tomorrow which was a lie pft

[rain quiver]

Why you getting a 7900xt and not a 9070xt

[steady sail]

bc there is non in europe

[rain quiver]

Oh damn

[pale sigil]

That's a lie

[rain quiver]

My microcenter had 440 xt and 170 non xt

[pale sigil]

I got one

[unkempt lake]

akko i didnt see you in here at 9am

[steady sail]

i know that the UK got a few

[unkempt lake]

when it dropped worldwide

[steady sail]

a friend of mine got the BRICK

[unkempt lake]

you can't just not follow this stuff and think you'll magically get one

[rain quiver]

Whats does sell the bday mean

[pale sigil]

I just want to say I'll sell the day I get it

[steady sail]

he was lucky

[rain quiver]

Oh you not even keeping it

[unkempt lake]

gonna be funny when it catches on fire

[balmy vector]

the chonky

[pale sigil]

My 3080

[rain quiver]

Oh ok

[unkempt lake]

akko it's not luck if you didn't try

[rain quiver]

That nitro+ is so good looking

[pale sigil]

Idk id 730 Is lucky

[rain quiver]

But the whole point of the gpu is good value, i aint paying 800 usd for it

[distant tapir]

Several of the 9070 XTs cost more than the 5070 Ti for me

[steady sail]

i didnt have my paycheck when the cards are available at 3pm

[distant tapir]

So I'll probably just go for 5070 Ti

[steady sail]

as i got it at 6pm

[unkempt lake]

if you're that paycheck to paycheck... then you shoouldnt have bought it anyways

stupid financial decision

good thing you didn't

[rain quiver]

Went for the more expensive card instead

[unkempt lake]

he said his friend got one

not him

[steady sail]

it was my friend who got that not me

im not willing to pay 1000 euro for a card LOL

[rain quiver]

Oh my bad i thought you said you were getting a 7900xt instead

Bruh 1000 thats xtx pricing

europe cooked as usual

[distant tapir]

Okay wtf they are all more expensive. Onl non-XTs cost less but only by around $80

[steady sail]

i gonna get a 7900 XT for like 700ish euro LOL

[unkempt lake]

cuz the msrp ones have been bought

now its fancy aib models

[distant tapir]

Inno3d 5070 ti is $798 for me

[steady sail]

out of the 3 5070 ti that is available in Hungary the cheapest is 1300$ xD

[balmy vector]

just as nvidia likes it

[distant tapir]

Not worth it

[steady sail]

i know that why im going with a 7900 xt instead

[distant tapir]

Is 7900 XT better than 9700 XT?

[steady sail]

nope

[unkempt lake]

Equivalent

9070xt sits like between an XT and an XTX

[steady sail]

its better against the non-xt

i would say that

[unkempt lake]

Just tried afmf 2.1

Its a nice improvement

[lyric hatch]

A lot closer to the xtx according to tpu benchmarks

[analog sinew]

yeah and depends what you do

raster slightly lower, rt higher

and well if you max the vram ofc thats a thing too

highres texture stuff

[rain quiver]

Is the difference similar at 4k?

Doesnt it have better rt performance too

[analog sinew]

it does

[lyric hatch]

Xtx is a couple % more at 4k

[rain quiver]

Damn the 4090 is only 30% better, but for 275% more money

Glad i sold that shit

[rain quiver]

I kinda wish i had an oled 2k monitor instead of this 4k one

But i keep telling myself its too expensive and then theres the risk of burn in

[somber coral]

is there a way for yellow to be brighter or pop out more? im fucking blind and i cant see people in valorant

[wheat plume]

The android Linux terminal is pretty neat
It's a Debian bookworm install

[bright briar]

my fellow tech people i have a question for you

if pc is so good wheres pc2?

[astral haven]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PS/2
already existed 40 years ago or w/e

[bright briar]

i admit defeat good sir

[wheat plume]

This made me wanna watch the Bill Gates vs Steve Jobs rap battle again

I really really need Android to get more volume steps
5% is way too much to jump each step .-.

I can't get my music at a good volume with this shit
It's slightly too loud or slight too quite .-.

[topaz fog]

"sorry i missed your call i was debugging my kernel"

[wheat plume]

:')

[astral haven]

android supports many many, idk if soundassistant is available for whatever phone you use but i can set mine to have up to 150 steps

[wheat plume]

I don't have Samsung

And that Good Lock suite of apps is only available in the US afaik

[astral haven]

i thought they put it on google play?

guess not rip

[wheat plume]

Nope

[astral haven]

you can use the accessibility settings to control things

[wheat plume]

Hmmm?

[astral haven]

you can use the accessibility settings to reduce volume, basically lowering how loud max volume is, so instead of 20 steps from 0-100 you have 20 steps from 0-80 or whatever

id be shocked if there wasnt an app available for generic android that duplicated soundassistant features tho

[wheat plume]

Apparently there is but it needs root

And the UI is atrocious too according to Reddit comments

[astral haven]

first google result is shizutools which doesnt

[wheat plume]

I can't use shizuku

Don't have Wi-Fi and you need Wi-Fi to setup the wireless abd thing

[astral haven]

you dont have wifi or a computer?

[wheat plume]

You can use computer for it?

[astral haven]

ofc

it just needs anything adb

hmm i dont see where it allows you to change volume steps

[wind parrot]

my 5090 is so nice, so many frames per the second

[bright briar]

from one pokemon enjoyer to the other. Which gen is your favourite?

[unkempt lake]

not evcn gonna ask me

smh

[bright briar]

whats your favoUrite gen

[unkempt lake]

2 because it introduced tyranitar

and i love ttar

raichu
flareon
tyranitar

my favorite pokemon

[bright briar]

alright snek dashi

[unkempt lake]

i always have these 3

[bright briar]

i fucks with you

gen 1 and 2 OP

sometimes british snek dashi you aint so bad

[lyric hatch]

There's fine lock which bypasses the region lock and is available on the playstore

But still only available on Samsung since it's made by them

It is very nice though so many customization options

[rough osprey]

how many flames per second

[wind parrot]

none because im just goated

[wind parrot]

do you have a 5090 ?

[rough osprey]

soon

[wind parrot]

ah but you dont have one rn

[dull hollow]

damn (2070 super in a 9070 xt box)

[gusty kiln]

enjoying the 2X fps upgrade?

[dull hollow]

ive only played a couple of games

planning to test it more tmr

[gentle osprey]

My 3070 to 4090

[dull hollow]

depending on the map in marvel rivals, its 40-120fps increase (from the 2 different maps i was able to play)

i would consistently get 100-120 before

across all the maps

[gentle osprey]

Noice

[dull hollow]

theres something wrong with overwatch tho, stutters like crazy

ill have to see whats up tomorrow

[gentle osprey]

Hmm weird

[dull hollow]

750w psu handling 340+w of power tho

buying a 850 just in case

clock speed is consistent 3300+

[dull hollow]

it might be some weird graphics setting messing something up

[pale sigil]

@dull hollow get playing some d2

[dull hollow]

idk if i even have it installed

💀

[pale sigil]

Get it installed

[dull hollow]

is warframe sufficient enough (i forgor how to play d2)

[gusty kiln]

Some games stutter alot at the beginning then stops on amd

[pale sigil]

No xd

[gusty kiln]

Apex legends was similar

[pale sigil]

That happens to me with my 3080

Dx12 specifically

[dull hollow]

i havent played apex in a minute

[gusty kiln]

I stopped, it's been a hot mess for a while now

[dull hollow]

yeah i heard

[pale sigil]

Haven't played Gaypex since the fast as fuck boi came out xd

[dull hollow]

which one is that 💀

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/octane-run-gif-26005719

[dull hollow]

oh

[pale sigil]

Apparently I lied, I played a little with that girl who can put walls up.

Catalyst

https://tenor.com/view/catalyst-apex-apex-legends-gif-27585420

[dull hollow]

yeah ik who that is

[dull hollow]

i’ll install it tomorrow

i’ll play for like an hour and give you the average fps

[pale sigil]

Good good.

Mine probably won't come till next week

[dull hollow]

i’ll also show the settings of course

or use a preset

keep in mind my cpu is a 7700x

[unkempt lake]

Haven't really noticed besides when cs2 released

Would stutter for the first match on my xtx then it ran fine seemed to be shader related

They patched it eventually

Overwatch i remember had a similar problem that got patched

[dull hollow]

first time i loaded mr, it took 5 minutes to load the shaders

second game startup was definitely a lot shorter

[unkempt lake]

Doesn't mean it loaded them all

Like

It still loads some while you play

The first few matches

[pale sigil]

I'm using a 5600x xx

[unkempt lake]

I'm really not much of an esports gamer

[dull hollow]

im excited to see how it runs assetto corsa

[unkempt lake]

I mean keep in mind you also JUST installed drivers

It has no shader cache at all

Your nvidia card welp it had like a month of shaders cached

[gentle osprey]

Lol I played as him

Octane

Reminded me of myself cause I have ADHD and used to run a lot

[dull hollow]

i love slinging around as pathfinder

[pale sigil]

Sames

[unkempt lake]

Hi cam!

[gentle osprey]

Sup Dashi

[unkempt lake]

Hiw about they just give us TitanFall3

[dull hollow]

im probably finally getting my hitscan hyperlight next week hopefully

[pale sigil]

I want tf3 so bad

[dull hollow]

its ea… when was the last time they gave us sum we wanted

[unkempt lake]

Same

Also @dull hollow remember you have amd antilag from within the drivers

[dull hollow]

time to get rid of my 3 gpx superlight

[dull hollow]

i watched a video about the amd adrenalin app or whatever its called

[unkempt lake]

was it by the ancient gameplay portuguese dude

[dull hollow]

no lol

[unkempt lake]

this dude idk he makes the most random amd videos like

let me read the patch notes