🔌│tech

[wheat plume]

and nothing is installed from that repo by default....

[digital cliff]

i'll just say endeavour mostly because I use it but no clue how it actually stacks up

[wheat plume]

wait, I lied
there are 2 packages installed from the Fedora Flatpak by default

[marsh pewter]

fellow edeavour user I see

[chrome prawn]

Is Manjaro any good?

[crimson wigeon]

no

[leaden kiln]

endeavour is good last time I checked

[crimson wigeon]

ManjarNO

[leaden kiln]

nah

[wheat plume]

no

avoid Manjaro

[digital cliff]

people don't like manjaro all that much

[wheat plume]

Manjaro have crappy update policies where they hold back certain packages and let others get updated in realtime and it can cause issues with dependencies later on and potentially make your system stop working

[chrome prawn]

I rember as being not that bad, but maybe thay have fell off the last years?

[chrome prawn]

okay thats kidna crazy

[leaden kiln]

not good for beginners at least
their repos have been weird a lot of times with the aur
someone experienced can get around it but I wouldn't recommend for a beginner

[digital cliff]

it's just that people hate on it because it's the popular thing to do

realistically speaking it'll probably work just fine if you're a normal person using it

[steady sail]

im happy with windoge

[umbral heron]

mlem #🐸│memes message

[wheat plume]

their biggest issue with the the NVIDIA GPU Drivers and the Kernel Modules, they update the kernel modules but hold back GPU drivers, and that causes a mismatch that the GPU driver isnt able to find the right version of the modules and the system boots to a black screen until you downgrade the modules to the right version manually via command line cause your PC cant do graphics due to this problem

[steady sail]

xD

[chrome prawn]

Bruh, just searched for "most popular noob linux distros" and jeez this list has expanded the last few years 😂

[astral haven]

supply chain poisoning, linux has gotten scary close several times to distributing malware on a major distro, and insurance would ban or raise rates for using them if there were risk of that

[wheat plume]

whats the top one?

[chrome prawn]

Ubuntu ofc... I mean not suprising, its what most people think when yuou say linux (amongst commoners)

[wheat plume]

Ubuntu is getting worse and worse the more Canonical transitions the desktop and applications to Snap instead of native deb packages

[chrome prawn]

Mint seems to be strong second?

[wheat plume]

Mint is very boring and very reliable

[marsh pewter]

mint is like if windows was a linux distro

[leaden kiln]

just use nixos easiest beginner user experience

[trim crane]

[wheat plume]

if you want absolutely 0 bells and whistles but it wont break, use Mint

[chrome prawn]

I respect the reliable ngl, but a bit more bleeding edge seem snice. So I guess fedora?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[digital cliff]

I just don't understand point-release systems

[wheat plume]

^ same here

[digital cliff]

rolling-release is the shit and anything else is garbage tbh

[chrome prawn]

TempleOS 🧌

Best beginner experience

[wheat plume]

you usually got to clean install each new release cause it can cause issues if you do an inplace upgrade

[trim crane]

got my 4TB NVME

[leaden kiln]

too safe

[steady sail]

just build ur own linux distro

[wheat plume]

oh btw, you ccan use the Fedora Media Writer to automatically download and write Fedora to a USB Drive

its the preferred method VS downlloading and writing the ISO manually

[leaden kiln]

I haven't ran my linux install in months
nixos has its own 2TB ssd in my pc but I don't even boot it anymore

[chrome prawn]

Uhh, "clean install" seems prettyy bruh, I assume moving personal files is easy?

[wheat plume]

if you back them up to USB or manually make your home folder on another drive partition..then yes

otherwise..not really

[umbral heron]

It's been almost 3 years since I used Windows

[wheat plume]

me too :D

[chrome prawn]

Uh what about any like configs?

[wheat plume]

all personal configs are stored in your home folder

system configs are not

[chrome prawn]

hmm ok, ill take a look, but fedora or mint seems to be the contenders

[wheat plume]

if you backup the entire home folder, you could move shit back fairly easily

[digital cliff]

yeah in linux world you usually have everything in your home folder in a folder called .config

[umbral heron]

System configs sit in /etc, user configs sit in ~/.config

[wheat plume]

and if its flaptak, your config files are in .var/app/<name of flatpak app>

[digital cliff]

you just back that up and then you basically have your settings for every single thing you used and can migrate that across OSs more or less

[wheat plume]

are you using it on a gaming PC?

[chrome prawn]

Yes, it will be my main platform for gaming and programming

[wheat plume]

if so, what CPU and GPU?

[leaden kiln]

I'm using windows more and more at work and at some point after getting vr it was just more of a pain in the ass to dual boot so now I'm just fulltime windows despite really enjoying linux

[chrome prawn]

12900K and 3080Ti

[wheat plume]

nvidia ....fuck

[chrome prawn]

yeee

[wheat plume]

ok, you may need to use Mint then

[chrome prawn]

next upgrade prob gonna be AMD

[digital cliff]

you can try looking into the arch-based ones too like endeavour if you want, just to have a point of comparison

[wheat plume]

AMD GPU Drivers are installed on Linux right out of the box

no need to manually install them

[chrome prawn]

Heard rumors of Nvidia starting to open up shit

[wheat plume]

Yeah, only their kernel modules

[chrome prawn]

and making it better, but idk how far thats gone

[chrome prawn]

well one step in the right diretcion

[leaden kiln]

you can use nvidia on any common distro it might just be more of a pain in the ass

[digital cliff]

not really you just install one package and that's it

[wheat plume]

Fedora makes it semi-easy to get nvidia drivers if you make sure to enable third party repos during the OOBE

[digital cliff]

people make it out to be some mega techie experience

[wheat plume]

yeah, its not hard but most people hate using command

[chrome prawn]

im fine with commands

[wheat plume]

you can download them from this page on Fedora

I have the intel ones cause I dont have a gpu on this laptop

[chrome prawn]

as long as there are good instuctions im fine wiht doing most things

[umbral heron]

Arch Wiki - there's absolutely everything in there

[leaden kiln]

it's certainly more of a pain in the ass than not unless that changed very recently
but yeah it shouldn't be very difficult

[wheat plume]

1. Enable Third Party repos when doing the OOBE setup after installing Fedora
2. Update Fedora entirely
3. Open the Software Center and scroll to the bottom to find the Hardware Drivers tab and click it and select and install the nvidia drivers from there

[chrome prawn]

That doesnt evens ound bad tbh

[wheat plume]

its not

[digital cliff]

yeah basically as easy/difficult as it is on windows

[chrome prawn]

I was gonna say^

[digital cliff]

only difference is you don't go download them from the web pretty much

[wheat plume]

windows is harder cause you need to go to the website, find the right download for your specific GPU, then run the installer and deny installing Geforce experience

[chrome prawn]

Oh god

[crimson wigeon]

Not really, you just have to get it for the right generation

[chrome prawn]

dont mention that fkn bloatware

[crimson wigeon]

e.g. whether it's supported still or you need a legacy version

[wheat plume]

the nvidia website asks you to select the specific gpu

[umbral heron]

Windows is easier because everyone uses Windows since they were a kid

[astral haven]

yea thats not true, you can just run windows update and itll just work for 99% of users

[wheat plume]

yeah that version is OLD AF

its like 2 years outdated

[astral haven]

thats not true for nvidia, and even if it still does work for 99% of users

[chrome prawn]

You get the most barebone version using that, you not getting the full game drivers etc through that.

[crimson wigeon]

I'm pretty sure you can choose 5090 or 2060 and it'll be the exact same .exe getting downloaded

[astral haven]

also not true for nvidia, only intel and amd have barebones versions

[digital cliff]

yeah it would be nice if you could actually run windows update when you wanted

[chrome prawn]

never

is my answer on that

[leaden kiln]

security liability

[umbral heron]

It's the same .exe for all GPU to like old 700-series
But yeah, Windows Update ones are several versions behind anyway, for both Nvidia and AMD

[digital cliff]

last time I set up a brand new windows machine it took it like 30 minutes to even figure out there were updates available and like 2 hours to install them all

[chrome prawn]

lately evbery feature update thty have done, has made th PC slower and more bloat

no thank you

[digital cliff]

not to mention it always updates when you don't want it to and breaks shit, not a fan

[astral haven]

and regarding this, this is only poissible because windows works mostly the same as it did 20 years ago
which you might not like but it does

[chrome prawn]

if its the same driver, there is no way in hell it has full fetaure support across all cards?

[leaden kiln]

I loved it when windows updated my laptop on shut down, but the shut down was from the battery reaching 0%
and then the update failed and complained about recovery when it booted again, curious that

[crimson wigeon]

It is always the same drivers, why else is it so fucking huge

[umbral heron]

Oh, I would be beyond happy if Windows worked like 20 years ago

[astral haven]

its sometimes not, and it has a separate ini file for each different gpu name

[chrome prawn]

ahh

[chrome prawn]

ehhh minus the kernel audio driver please

[marsh pewter]

wdym? you're saying you dont like windows bloat-leven?

[wheat plume]

nah, its Windows Bloat-Ad-leven

[leaden kiln]

I have the pleasure of using 4 different versions of windows every day at work

[crimson wigeon]

But I do want Copilot to helpfully help me with everything!

[umbral heron]

Context menu change was the straw that broke camel's back

[wheat plume]

yeah that shit sucks .-.

[marsh pewter]

sounds like fun

[astral haven]

you use linux, and holding shift when clicking to get back the old ui is too complicated for you?

[leaden kiln]

I don't mind the new context menu
something that annoys is that windows never opens stuff in the file manager tabs, and keeps opening new windows of the file manager instead

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it's a weird complaint for sure, but maybe I don't mind as much because I got used long ago to holding shift to get the hidden options

[leaden kiln]

11, 10, 7, and xp ☠️
can't say I love it too much

[wheat plume]

maybe its too tricky with all the spaghetti code to change that behaviour

[chrome prawn]

windows 2000 was lowkey peak windows 🗣️

[umbral heron]

Yeah, because on linux right-clicking works how it used to before

[wheat plume]

7

gnome right click is pretty basic but you can add to it with nautilus extensions

[astral haven]

even knowing you are meming, this still causes me physical pain

[chrome prawn]

AHHAHAHAHAHHA

[steady sail]

windows 1.0 was peak

[wheat plume]

Pewdiepie putting the PSU on the front panel is triggering me xd

[cursive summit]

What do you even mean front panel

[wheat plume]

where the fans usually mount

[cursive summit]

Huh

[cursive summit]

What in the abomination is this

[wheat plume]

XD

[cursive summit]

Well yeah where else is he supposed to put it, his whole bottom is fans

[leaden kiln]

that's the mounting point though

where it's supposed to be

[cursive summit]

What case is that

[wheat plume]

🤔

[cursive summit]

I saw the vid it was a weird Lian Li but didn't see the model

[wheat plume]

yeah what case?! he didnt mention the specs except the mobo and CPU

at least he got an AMD GPU

[cursive summit]

The box for the case said Lian Li

[floral island]

is their a software for the keyboard?

[reef patrol]

Yes.

[cursive summit]

Lian Li con?

[floral island]

mb i know that part i meant as of like to customize the colors

just bought the keyboard nd heard good things about it,so i am gona try it out

[cursive summit]

https://wootility.io/

Chromium only

[floral island]

thank you

[cursive summit]

I swear that says CON

But that's not a product I can find

[wheat plume]

https://lian-li.com/product/a3-matx/

this is it maybe

[cursive summit]

Definitely not that

Is it? It looks different in video but it has that writing

[wheat plume]

you sure?

that looks like the same logo

[cursive summit]

Ohh it's a collab with DANcase

[wheat plume]

yeh xd

[cursive summit]

That explains everything

Jesus christ this is a cursed rig

[wheat plume]

the front panel on the video is the same

[cursive summit]

Why'd you do this to yourself

[marsh pewter]

that psu location is so incredibly ugly

[cursive summit]

It's not even THAT SFF

[wheat plume]

yeah its cursed AF

[cursive summit]

Tbf that pewds build has a bunch of issues

[marsh pewter]

I mean its not a glass panel so you cant really see it

[cursive summit]

Bad CPU, slow RAM, bad case, horrendous air cooler, way too many fuckin fans, I stopped watching after those

[magic minnow]

I have this case

[marsh pewter]

but it is slightly see through

[wheat plume]

oh gosh...he using Mint

[marsh pewter]

tbf its his first build

[cursive summit]

Surely he could have had people tell him what to buy lol

[magic minnow]

If you get the wooden one it’s open at the front so the PSU can breath or you can mount it on the side as well

[wheat plume]

yeah, he could have xd

[reef patrol]

Seems like a perfectly sensible spot for SFF?

[cursive summit]

Not necessarily, plenty of far smaller cases have a traditional spot

[reef patrol]

Such as?

I am curious to compare

[cursive summit]

Meshlicious?

[magic minnow]

Ugly

[leaden kiln]

my first build used a dell vostro case 😎

[reef patrol]

Not sure I'd call a frame of mesh (that stands up) comparable but okay 😄

[cursive summit]

That's the Meshlicious

Great case tbf

[reef patrol]

The PSU is in the same spot though?

You just rotated the case 90 degrees.

[cursive summit]

No?

Motherboard is mounted in the orientation as the image is

It's just very narrow in width

[reef patrol]

rotated 90 degrees

Not comparable layout 😄

[cursive summit]

No, that Lian Li mounts the PSU in the middle of the front panel

With Meshlicious is sits at bottom right

[marsh pewter]

doesnt make it less ugly

[magic minnow]

Or the side

[reef patrol]

Now lie that case down on the PSU cable, and you've got the same layout, and the same case orientation.

[magic minnow]

https://youtu.be/0r9yukG_9EQ?

[cursive summit]

eh I have better things to do that this

[reef patrol]

Terra. Same approach

[magic minnow]

I wish my gpu fit in this I’d get one so fast

[steady sail]

time for water block

[leaden kiln]

same layout as my t1
terra looks nice

[reef patrol]

No one is forcing you. I am merely pointing out that you can't compare apples to oranges like that. A tall case is not a long case 😄

[sharp badger]

Oh this one is nice!

[leaden kiln]

he pleads no contest

[sharp badger]

Really like that Jade color

[reef patrol]

Yeah it's quite nice. When my SO's old case breaks, we're rebuilding it in that.

[steady sail]

idk but i would hate building a pc in a smal case lol

[reef patrol]

I have some old... I honestly forgot who made it. It's one of those Asian brands. It has "feet" that's made from clear plexi, which is starting to crack slightly. She also never used the special wireless phone charger thing it has 😄

[sharp badger]

Just was something about how close that CPU cooler sits to the case with noise though

[leaden kiln]

wasn't any more difficult than building in my old cases
you only really have to do it once anyway

[reef patrol]

That's why there's all the rubber bits.

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKiFk7tBTLg Yeah probably solves it

[steady sail]

i mean its true but still its a pain in the ass to build

[sharp badger]

Havn is ok

[steady sail]

im just gonna stick to the normal ATX boards and stuff

[leaden kiln]

personally I had more trouble with my matx builds than my itx build but maybe that's not the consensus
maybe this case is just well optimized and the psu cables happened to be about the right length

[steady sail]

yeah thats a possibility

[graceful wedge]

That’s beautiful

More fans here?

[magic minnow]

A3?

[leaden kiln]

dell vostro case for my first matx build then an Asus ap201
and my itx build is a t1

wait I still have that asus case sitting in a corner ☠️

why do people build glass pc is there not plenty of metal in the world

[graceful wedge]

Slanted fans look really nice

[analog sinew]

idk

[steady sail]

form factor and maybe space as well

[analog sinew]

metal cases best

no aquariums

except those with fish i like those

[steady sail]

best pc case

[charred nexus]

Idk I have both and I don't see why people argue about this

[leaden kiln]

nvidia in that and the fire hazard is double

[steady sail]

it is a trend

[charred nexus]

bruh i think the surface pro x is a small enough userbase that firefox wont fix a graphical bug on the Adreno 680/690

[leaden kiln]

maybe they like the aesthetics 🤔

[charred nexus]

aesthetic of small cases or aesthetic of not having a huge ass pc on your desk

[steady sail]

my pc case is under my desk

[charred nexus]

i tuck my itx behind my fish tank pc

[balmy vector]

mine is off to the side on a separate location from my desk

[charred nexus]

its basically hidden

[reef patrol]

wat

[steady sail]

no ?

[balmy vector]

fishtank is so

[charred nexus]

bruh it have been a year since its a bug report on this and they still dont bother to fix it, i really want to use Zen 😭

[sharp badger]

Yeah fishtank cases are meh

Just not for me

[steady sail]

everyone loves North

or Torrent

[charred nexus]

It's not that bad when you have a place delicate for it

But it's huge tho

[sharp badger]

It looks nice but it's just not for me

[balmy vector]

i just like more normal cases, though i also dig some of the funky ones too

fishtank is just not for me at all

[sharp badger]

It fits with that aesthetic

[steady sail]

i just want this

[charred nexus]

I mean ITX you can just hide it, so like I get why people get them too

[reef patrol]

Remove that godawful metal band wrap and we'll talk.

[steady sail]

its gonna sit under my desk i dont care whats on the side

[reef patrol]

[charred nexus]

I use to run mirror tint on my case (not this one but an O11

[analog sinew]

I HAVE HIM TOO

[charred nexus]

Yeah, cuz I used to have them rainbow lights, like rgb strips and rgb power cables, it's really bright, so I just put tints on it

[charred nexus]

Hell yeah

[analog sinew]

beeg and smol

[balmy vector]

the child

[charred nexus]

It's basically a mirror when it's off, but you can see lights when it's on

[charred nexus]

I just have the smol one unfortunately

[analog sinew]

he will grow up ❤️

[charred nexus]

I want da big one but I have too many nessies

[sharp badger]

Child of cthulhu

[charred nexus]

They took up all the space

[unkempt lake]

Child of mou

I put a good moumouvideo in pets

[steady sail]

i just need to swtich out my AIO to an Air cooler and my pc case would be fine for a nice gpu but im soo lazy to order one and change it

why does the Peerless Assassin cooler cost 70$ xD

[magic minnow]

The SE?

I think it performs better than the EVO by like a tiny bit

[steady sail]

thats 60$ xD

[magic minnow]

I’m waiting for their Royal Pretor Ultra to come out

[steady sail]

okay the Peerless Assassin SE doesnt even sold in Hungary xd

[sharp badger]

Wowie

[steady sail]

it was the Phantom Spirit 120 SE that is 60$

[sharp badger]

Cheapest right now is €44,91 here of that

[steady sail]

i love the VAT rate

[sharp badger]

Tried looking at Amazon?

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Thermalright-Phantom-Heatpipes-TL-C12B-Technilogy/dp/B0BTD4F6RY e.g.

[steady sail]

i dont trust amazon

[sharp badger]

Why not?

[steady sail]

i never used it and never gonna use it

[sharp badger]

Ok it works just fine though

Just have to look around for prices and know what to look for

[steady sail]

yeah its easy to say when u used it a lot

[sharp badger]

Aliexpress might sometimes have better deals for things but that's where you really have to see where you order stuff from

[analog sinew]

ali is worse than amazon tho :d

[sharp badger]

Yes

[magic minnow]

You do get some insane deals on Ali though

[sharp badger]

Yeah but you do have to look around for stuff there

[wild coyote]

Most stuff from Amazon are from Aliexpress or some other chinese stores

[sharp badger]

Yeah just another provider

[wild coyote]

Amazon and Aliexpress are basically the same. Aliexpress just allows more sellers

[sharp badger]

Yup

[steady sail]

the price for the cpu cooler

xD

why i dont use amazon LMAO

[sharp badger]

Getting prime temporarily can help with that

[leaden kiln]

10 euros isn't insane for shipping but if you can get it cheaper total at another place get it from there instead
I think I've used my month of prime free trial 5 times at this point
every time I've bought something they gave me a free month of prime which often gets free shipping

[steady sail]

its cheaper with 3 euro overall xd

[wild coyote]

Not on countries that doesn't even get prime benefits, even tho they can pay for them

[steady sail]

i have prime but i dont have prime shipping dx

and i dont save that much money if i order it from amazon xd

[leaden kiln]

that's too bad then
I've often gotten better shipping options with prime but that probably depends a lot on the seller
I bought my cooler from the us so shipping wasn't as good on that

[steady sail]

i mean Hungary doesnt even have its own site at amazon soo im not even suprised xd

LMAO

[balmy vector]

lackwell

[strong sand]

I’m so sorry for any trouble asking here may cause but “community support” is the right channel for asking for computer help right?

[ashen spindle]

thats mostly for wooting related support, if its generic computer trouble here is better

[nova wasp]

i cant use the Windows key + Shift + Arrow key to switch something monitors. any tips?

[steady sail]

this sounds like a windows issue

[nova wasp]

ya maybe, maybe a macro or soemthing?

[steady sail]

or could u try add the arrow keys with mod tap ?

[reef patrol]

DKS? DKS.

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDlcgILBAXQ

wha

(just started watching it)

[ashen spindle]

yes seems to mostly be on a batch that zotac got

[unkempt lake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/s/lLvn0o5B5G

[unkempt lake]

Affects other manufacturers (MSI has reported cases)

[fair gull]

i mean quin just said mostly zotac

[unkempt lake]

zotac is like... one of only aibs who sold at msrp

means more sales

[fair gull]

wha

at the demand it seemingly didnt matter what price

they all sold out anyway

idk if you noticed but no one can get one right now

but jayz mentioned zotac seems to have had the most stock in general as the microcenter he visited had 50 cards from zotac alone

[unkempt lake]

Zotac only makes nvidia cards so

It makes sense

Anyhow this is a mess

[analog sinew]

yea

they really bungled this gen hardcore

[wheat plume]

this is a really cool use of RGB

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-pops-bomb-pop-bomb-pop-day-rocket-pop-popsicle-gif-17770474

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-9070-xt-reference-design-wont-be-available-for-purchase

[wheat plume]

Xd

[magic minnow]

The comments lol

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/protogen-omg-ram-ram-excited-proto-gif-22034497

me when popsicle ram

[wheat plume]

I want a Popsicle now ;_!

[fair gull]

anyone know a place to rent an arm32 kvm system

apparently flashing android 2.2 on a "not for sale" device that comes with 2.1 test builds bricks it permanently

[magic minnow]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-ryzen-9-9000-series-granite-ridge-socket-am5-processor/p/N82E16819113884?

The 9950x3d is already going on sale?

[unkempt lake]

if you do it

I slap you

[magic minnow]

Nu just wanna know that’s all

[unkempt lake]

you literally do not do anything that uses more than 8 cores on your pc

[fair gull]

ideally id want smth that can function as a phone natively

[unkempt lake]

Yes march

[magic minnow]

Since I got an alert at 3:34pm that it went up on Newegg

[unkempt lake]

Same time as new gpus

[ashen spindle]

march 11/12 so after the gpus

also technically it clocks higher so bit better than 9800x3d xD

[unkempt lake]

SHUSHHH

HE DOESNT NEED IT

[analog sinew]

the absolute state of gpus

[magic minnow]

It’s sad

[magic minnow]

I can’t justify it since I want oneplus 13 mini

[unkempt lake]

YOU HAVE AN IPHONE 16

Attack on kit kit

[analog sinew]

im curious sbout the 9070xt

[unkempt lake]

its time to stop

[analog sinew]

yeah thats eww

[unkempt lake]

it make phone calls and plays games

And has cat videos

its all thats needed

[graceful wedge]

How would u guys fix a faulty gpu

[magic minnow]

I’ll keep using it but I want smaller phone :c that’s high end

[graceful wedge]

Is it very difficult

[magic minnow]

RMA

[analog sinew]

there are only few things you can easily fix yourself

[graceful wedge]

Explain to someone that’s not good at tech

[analog sinew]

and it can get very complicated

[analog sinew]

rma is sending it back lol

[magic minnow]

Email the company and use the warranty if you still have it

[graceful wedge]

Ahh

Nope

[unkempt lake]

werent you the guy who bought a 7900xt a bit ago

[graceful wedge]

I got it in like 2024

In like July

[unkempt lake]

also how do you know its broken

[graceful wedge]

Becuase of this

And because in driver booster it said faulty display smth smth

Had to get all my stuff wiped, new windows and everything

[unkempt lake]

the fuck is driver booster

[unkempt lake]

And it works after?

[graceful wedge]

Yea aslong as I don’t update gpu drivers

[unkempt lake]

well your pc is clearly working now

[graceful wedge]

If I update gpu drivers then it’ll just do the same thing again, and I’ll have to system restore

[unkempt lake]

Have you tried a previous version of the drivers

Or DDU to install then cleanly

[graceful wedge]

Well my family member had it before so he might’ve done that before I tried messing with it, but no

[unkempt lake]

Also it could just be your vertical mount/riser

[graceful wedge]

Because I gave it to him to troubleshoot and fix it the first time

[unkempt lake]

Can't you like

Do some of it yourself?

[graceful wedge]

I’m noob in tech

I just play games

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/xn8z39tiEL0?si=9Sq6uYU2POOL_Tjo

[graceful wedge]

Legit opened bios like a small number of times since this happend

I’ll try 🤔

[unkempt lake]

well its either you try some stuff or you have a paperweight

[graceful wedge]

Mainly worried about making it worse tho, don’t want that happening from trying to fix it 😭

[unkempt lake]

Also... have you tried booting using the igpu

[unkempt lake]

You can't just... start returning parts unless you know what's defective

The fact that it was after an update seems to me like a software issue

Also try to install the driver version from before you updated

ex: if you were running 24.12.1 and you installed 25.1.1 then just... go back

[graceful wedge]

Idk if I’ll be able to do that

Since my pc got like full wiped

[ashen spindle]

you can add more to it: people managed to have 4x FG running on 40 series

[graceful wedge]

Like all my old clips and everything else

[unkempt lake]

You just go on the website and download it

...?

[steady sail]

really xD

[graceful wedge]

Windows, desktop apps and all that data

[ashen spindle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/users-on-reddit-have-gotten-dlss4-mfg-multi-frame-gen-working-on-40-series-gpus.1116012/

not sure if the reddit post was posted here earlier or if that was another discord

[unkempt lake]

Just... reinstall what you need

[graceful wedge]

If u don’t mind can u link me the site

Amd gpu

[unkempt lake]

Didn't it just show a black frame

[unkempt lake]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/drivers.html

[graceful wedge]

Ty

It sucks that this happend but I mean im glad I learned a decent amount from this

Learned how to make a checkpoint, how to system restore, don’t mess with bios

[unkempt lake]

You can just search and not reinstall the latest one

Latest non optional was 24.12.1

So just install 24.11.1

but first

[graceful wedge]

I will try tommarow, hopefully all goes well

[unkempt lake]

Do ddu

Ddu first

[steady sail]

there is a dll for that

[magic minnow]

@gentle osprey
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1iv7277/my_5090_astral_caught_on_fire/

People are praising him in the comments lol

[unkempt lake]

quality gpus

[gentle osprey]

such a shit series

[unkempt lake]

how bad does nvidia's image

Have to tank

For them to do something about it

[rough patrol]

They dont care

Doesnt affect their main business (ai chips)

[iron wave]

Does anyone have experience with these guys?

I'm not sure how they interact with Android and how well they'd respond to being put in a car.

[primal nymph]

It was some horrible stick of ram and a broken ssd so I made this

[magic minnow]

I know Ekster has one as well

https://www.ekster.com/products/tracker-card-3-0

[iron wave]

Does this use find my?

[magic minnow]

Chipolo

Or did you want an apple based one?

[iron wave]

I want an Android find my one. I'm pretty sure that's what it's called.

[empty wren]

gps sim tracker is best

undetected by thieving parties

[iron wave]

That sounds very detectable and more expensive.

[empty wren]

not detectable if you hide it well

but foir yoru general use motorola tags

or that would do

heck even tile

[iron wave]

It's going to be doing radio no matter what.

[empty wren]

sure

[iron wave]

So I'm guessing you guys don't have experience with the find my stuff?

[empty wren]

No,https://findmydevice.com/ works for my phone, watch and earbuds

[severe phoenix]

https://preview.redd.it/kfjpm999kjke1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=381f765d5eb0824b4720b55eed8a1c52ccdc7944

[jovial spindle]

My keyboard is not responding. It connects to the computer but not to the wooting software. Can anyone tell me what to do about this?

no idon't use it

yeah i using chrome software

[analog sinew]

show me yours i'll show you mine

😊

i'm not on my pc xD

i just woke up 10 mins ago

[cosmic thunder]

you just exposed ur ip to public lol, imma get into ur pc

wat

[analog sinew]

hes a hacker

[cosmic thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[jovial spindle]

Sorry, Device Manager didn't open properly

I'm sorry for my Japanese, but is this correct?

wait a min try it

This is what you get when you display an item

under the keyboard item

wooting website

yes i use wootillity

yes

i have't other software

yes I've done it a few times already and it didn't work

Normally, RGB should glow, but it doesn't.

no nothing flash

I can hear the connection sound when I reinsert the cord.

ok

It was fixed! Thank you so much!

you're my Hero😘

[latent mural]

What is the best value rapid trigger keyboard that comes with the Iso Nordic layout?

[magic minnow]

My friend wants to get a 7700x should he care about the ram mhz and cl or just buy what he can afford?

What would you say would be a good number?

6400mhz cl32?

[sharp badger]

Wasn't the sweet spot at 6000MT/s?

[magic minnow]

That’s what I have 6000 cl30

But I know there’s cl28 now

[sharp badger]

Yeah that's good

[magic minnow]

Gamer ram!

[sharp badger]

Wowie those will fit with everything lol

[magic minnow]

lol

[stiff path]

Old news?

[balmy vector]

Oh they can always fuck up harder

Just a matter of when

[cosmic thunder]

gnome 47 supports native scailing on xwayland

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HiDPI#Fractional_scaling

150% scailing before

after ✨

[fair gull]

tmw i start hating deltaTime and frametimes

[ashen spindle]

[fair gull]

well i got through it

[steady sail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1iv7277/my_5090_astral_caught_on_fire/#lightbox OOF

[sudden imp]

AMD when can we get non flammable gpus

[ashen spindle]

https://x.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1893264118573846627 hmm why would amd ask for feedback, I thought if there are leaked prices its already decided /s

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed) on X

@isotoxin390 AMD has emailed us directly asking for our opinion on pricing. So you're wrong about at least that much. Did they email you?

X · Feb 22, 2025, 11:38 AM

[sudden imp]

500/550 would be nice

But like that may not be possible

[ashen spindle]

well we dont know exact performance yet so that needs to be certain first

[balmy vector]

Just playing the waiting game

[toxic crystal]

I unplugged the cable when I was updating the firmware, and now the keyboard is unresponsive. What should I do?

[shell sundial]

hi

[fair gull]

ok deltatime bested me

[ashen spindle]

How

[fair gull]

speed is fine like the original 30fps locked version biy the alpha is fudged. it used in "life" and "death" values that increased/decreased each frame for alpha. i thought id be smart by just using the deltatime instead

or well the dtfactor i use since all values are for 30fps target

so i divide dt by 33ms to get the adjusted factor

[ashen spindle]

wouldn't it have to be the other way around

nvm then it would be sped up for 60fps not kept the same

gets confusing when its back and forth between being the lower or bigger number lol

[fair gull]

ye

[fair gull]

if (particle.life < 0.0f || particle.x < -1.2f ||
        particle.x > 1.2f || particle.y < -1.7f ||
        particle.y > 1.7f) {
    particle.x = noise.boundRandom(-1.0f, 1.0f);
    particle.y = noise.boundRandom(-1.0f, 1.0f);
    particle.speed = noise.boundRandom(0.0002f, 0.02f);
    particle.wander = noise.boundRandom(0.50f, 1.5f);
    particle.death = 0;
    particle.life = noise.boundRandom(300, 800);
    particle.alphaStart = noise.boundRandom(0.01f, 1.0f);
    particle.alpha = particle.alphaStart;
}

float touchDist = (float) Math.sqrt(Math.pow(touchX - particle.x, 2) +
        Math.pow(touchY - particle.y, 2));

float noiseValue = noise.getNoiseFromVec2(particle.x, particle.y);

if (touchDown || touchInfluence > 0.0f)
{
    if (touchDown)
    {
        touchInfluence = 1.0f;
    }

    rads = (float) Math.atan2(touchX - particle.x + noiseValue,
touchY - particle.y + noiseValue);

    if (touchDist > 0.0f)
    {
        speed = (0.25f + (noiseValue * particle.speed + 0.01f)) / touchDist * 0.3f;
        speed *= touchInfluence;
    }
    else
    {
        speed = 0.3f;
    }

    speed *= deltaTimeFactor;

    particle.x += (float) Math.cos(rads) * speed * 0.2f;
    particle.y += (float) Math.sin(rads) * speed * 0.2f;
}

float angle = 360 * noiseValue * particle.wander;
speed = noiseValue * particle.speed + 0.01f;
speed *= deltaTimeFactor;
rads = angle * (float) Math.PI / 180.0f;

particle.x += (float) Math.cos(rads) * speed * 0.24f;
particle.y += (float) Math.sin(rads) * speed * 0.24f;

particle.life -= deltaTimeFactor;
particle.death += deltaTimeFactor;

float dist = (float) Math.sqrt(particle.x * particle.x +
        particle.y * particle.y);

if (dist >= 0.95f) {
    dist -= 0.95f;
    if (particle.alphaStart < 1.0f)
    {
        particle.alphaStart += 0.01f;
        particle.alphaStart *= 1 - dist;
    }
}

if (particle.death < 101.0f)
{
    particle.alpha = particle.alphaStart * particle.death / 100.0f;
}
else if (particle.life < 101.0f)
{
    particle.alpha = particle.alpha * particle.life / 100.0f;
}
else
{
    particle.alpha = particle.alphaStart;
}

thats basically the entire code

[ashen spindle]

the version with or without issues

[fair gull]

thats with issues

removing deltatime factor by replacing it with just 1 makes it work fine but too fast motion wise

and the alpha fade is too fast as well

        if(particle->life < 0 || particle->position.x < -1.2 ||
           particle->position.x >1.2 || particle->position.y < -1.7 ||
           particle->position.y >1.7) {
            particle->position.x = rsRand(-1.0f, 1.0f);
            particle->position.y = rsRand(-1.0f, 1.0f);
            particle->speed = rsRand(0.0002f, 0.02f);
            particle->wander = rsRand(0.50f, 1.5f);
            particle->death = 0;
            particle->life = rsRand(300, 800);
            particle->alphaStart = rsRand(0.01f, 1.0f);
            particle->alpha = particle->alphaStart;
        }
        float touchDist = sqrt(pow(touchX - particle->position.x, 2) +
                               pow(touchY - particle->position.y, 2));
        float noiseval = noisef2(particle->position.x, particle->position.y);
        if(touchDown || touchInfluence > 0.0) {
            if(touchDown){
                touchInfluence = 1.0;
            }
            rads = atan2(touchX - particle->position.x + noiseval,
                         touchY - particle->position.y + noiseval);
            if(touchDist != 0){
                speed = ( (0.25 + (noiseval * particle->speed + 0.01)) / touchDist * 0.3 );
                speed = speed * touchInfluence;
            } else {
                speed = .3;
            }
            particle->position.x += cos(rads) * speed * 0.2;
            particle->position.y += sin(rads) * speed * 0.2;
        }
        float angle = 360 * noiseval * particle->wander;
        speed = noiseval * particle->speed + 0.01;
        rads = angle * 3.14159265 / 180.0;
        particle->position.x += cos(rads) * speed * 0.33;
        particle->position.y += sin(rads) * speed * 0.33;
        particle->life--;
        particle->death++;
        float dist = sqrt(particle->position.x*particle->position.x +
                          particle->position.y*particle->position.y);
        if(dist < 0.95) {
            dist = 0;
            particle->alphaStart *= (1-dist);
        } else {
            dist = dist-0.95;
            if(particle->alphaStart < 1.0f) {
                particle->alphaStart +=0.01;
                particle->alphaStart *= (1-dist);
            }
        }
        if(particle->death < 101) {
            particle->alpha = (particle->alphaStart)*(particle->death)/100.0;
        } else if(particle->life < 101) {
            particle->alpha = particle->alpha*particle->life/100.0;
        } else {
            particle->alpha = particle->alphaStart;
        }

this is the original code i adapted

(and yes they hardcoded pi)

[fair gull]

emulated phone

looks fine

and ofc my phone wont connect for screen mirroring

ah there it is

maybe im just doing projection matrices wrong

idk at this point tbh

[keen steppe]

I need an audio controller with lile pause, play and skip buttons

anyone know any good ones

[steady sail]

buy a wooting uwu for that lol

overall u need that

[keen steppe]

Does not fit the black aesthetic

[steady sail]

there is a black one as well

[fair gull]

(you can turn of the rgb as well)

[keen steppe]

interesting

[latent mural]

Got the black one with brass bottom. It super nice.

[unkempt lake]

Just map them to home page up page down

[keen steppe]

could also do that yea

[unkempt lake]

Costs nothing

[spiral island]

But then you're depriving moumou of a moumou sized keyboard

[unkempt lake]

Proof the wooting 2he is the real moumou sized keyboard

literally 1 moumou long

how am i supposed to fight against cat hair

[fair gull]

im ready to throw in the towl on this deltatime bs

[unkempt lake]

G303SE

[fair gull]

not even like it doesnt work

1 part of the particle calcs just doesnt work as i think it should

[analog sinew]

your game engine?

[spiral island]

Oh so that's what people mean when they say 1mm. I was way off!

[unkempt lake]

But moumou likes how warm the moupad gets

[unkempt lake]

1 MouMou long yes

@sonic adder buy me a glass moupad then

So i can replace my cloth deskmoupad

It's... your contribution to the mourealm

[analog sinew]

your name says you would do it anytime

[unkempt lake]

Taxes

[spiral island]

Can confirm

[unkempt lake]

You insulted your queen by praising the voidcat this is your fine @sonic adder

fine i'll take it

free is free

You pull through

[halcyon moss]

Easy, Throw out the cat

[spiral island]

Mods, ban ^

[unkempt lake]

Idk you tell me

[unkempt lake]

dmed

Madlad actually did it

[bright briar]

MOU MOU TECH

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-big-eyes-meme-gif-7200239684331082529

[unkempt lake]

OK GUYS

WE'RE BUYING AN ANIME MOUPAD

[bright briar]

does it "make sounds" when you put your mouse on it?

[bright briar]

how dare you take money from the froggo lord he has a frog familia to feed

the guitar solo is an instant purchase 1:45

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[unkempt lake]

ok guys i looked up anime mousepad a d tbis showed up

is this what i need to buy

I'll buy treats for moumou at the store

[bright briar]

big booty means comfy for your wrist

[bright briar]

oh no

not the drugs

[unkempt lake]

@sonic adder im spending it on this

For moumou

look at the first ine

FROG

[rough patrol]

[analog sinew]

actually nvm the thumb is too bad

[vagrant pagoda]

They actually suck as a wrist rest because of the crack in the middle. My buddy used one for like 6m and got carpal tunnel

[unkempt lake]

good use of 20$

2 boxes of cat treats

Minimum order was 2

moumou's birthday will be unforgettable

[fair gull]

@ashen spindle @sonic adder i figured out my deltatime troubles....

they werent cause by delta time

they were caused by incompetence

how could this ever go wrong when life and death arent ints stored as floats anymore but actually fractions of deltatime/33

[ashen spindle]

looool

[fair gull]

lesson learned... actually convert the entire class not just its fields

the only reason i noticed was i logged the first particle and it never changed by the deltatimefactor i calculated but a super small fraction of it

yes indeed

well this lead to me also understanding MVP better and that i dont actually need to use the aspect ratio since i can just pin it at a nice sensible number to fill the screen more

[leaden kiln]

that pad was supposed to be limited edition but its still in stock here
maybe the people of my country arent based enough to buy them

[scarlet jackal]

Cute

[bright briar]

rip

[barren pollen]

why is the thing so small

i can barely see

still the same

[fair gull]

do you have some sort of windows scaling enabled?

[barren pollen]

no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217587939945611394/1332412443019837541/petpet.gif

never used web version so idk ;-;

its fine on web version

[fair gull]

also update your local wootility

[barren pollen]

oh

you are right

[fair gull]

ctrl+numpad 0 resets zoom in that case

id still recommend updating wootility to v5

[barren pollen]

working fine now

thanks

[fair gull]

it is officially old

v5 is the only version getting updates going forward

since all keyboards we made/make work with it

[analog sinew]

smh

[fair gull]

i mean v5 is a really nice framework for any keyboard or feature to come. so i dont see why new devices wouldnt work on v5

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3rLEii6kLQ
Very cool look at Dune Fremen architecture - and finding real world comparisons in Turkey,

[vagrant pagoda]

v5 works with flaretechs

[fair gull]

yes

[vagrant pagoda]

youll be fine by updating

[iron wave]

It's all connected, it would help.

[vagrant pagoda]

it may move some heat from the pins that are low resistance, but not much

also making the connector on the cable stiffer, will make it harder to get a good connection with all pins

[iron wave]

Hypothetically it could even use a low temp solder or something, it would start to runaway for a bit before all of the pins desolder but it should stop before it causes a fire.

Making it stiffer would make it so the pins would be more uniform.

[vagrant pagoda]

or just go back to multiple shunts

[analog sinew]

it's crazy they just did that

some people spent thousands of hours designing that cooler

imagine what that cost to make it that small

[flint imp]

hey guys i think asus should mysteriously disappear forever

[vagrant pagoda]

not really

[analog sinew]

and the electrical engineer is a gerbil with lung cancer

[vagrant pagoda]

the 3090 had shunts, the 4090 didnt

4090 is bigger lol

[unkempt lake]

just... do a clean install of windows and dont install asus bloatware

[analog sinew]

I'm saying they spent a lot of money designing the 5090 cooler but no money on the electrical engineering on the power delivery

which is odd

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean it was an issue on the 4090

so they 100% dont care

[flint imp]

I downloaded it to update bios to fix a game cuz it said thats where it was to update so im deleting it rn

[unkempt lake]

you... dont need any of this to update the bios

you just put the file onto a usb... go in bios... update

[flint imp]

i lost all my usb hense the software

[unkempt lake]

a usb is like less than 5$

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYMdWqIPRWI

[unkempt lake]

also it may not fix your game

guessing you're running an intel platform right?

[flint imp]

na

it was r6 and apparently my shit just implodes and it was the only fix i saw. So I figuired id give it a go, and if not /shrug ill wait till rainbow x releases

full amd pc

[unkempt lake]

i don't see how a bios update would help

[flint imp]

Neither do I but its the only thing ANYONE else has had work

It used to use more and nore vram until it was unplayable and now it hard crashes my pc and wont turn on unless i reset my cmos battery

[vagrant pagoda]

sounds like a hardware problem

heat or bad card

[flint imp]

idrk how since everything else ive ever played works and doesnt have any issues

and heat should be more than fine

r6 is just racist against me for no reason xd

if it ends up not working /shrug and if its a card issue ill just get a new xtx idm this is what ive saved for anyway

itd be nice to be a one of those guys who have a really shitty rare issue that posts a fix on reddit

[unkempt lake]

Thinking some bad ram

Or like

Imc not working well with his expo profile

[flint imp]

This was on my old pc i full reset and got a new rig i should mention

[unkempt lake]

Run the ram stock

Don't use xmp/expo

See if that somehow fixes it

[unkempt lake]

oh

so wtf is the problem then

[flint imp]

THATS WHAT IM SAAAYING

its had issues on every amd system ive used

[unkempt lake]

I'm asking

What is the issue

Do you need to pull out your cmos battery

[flint imp]

rn it runs and runs until it freezes plays the last 0.0001 ms of audio on repeat and i have to force shut it off

[unkempt lake]

Does it boot normally after

[flint imp]

nah it wont turn on

i mean it will but my light will keep flickering

[unkempt lake]

Do you have EXPO/XMP enabled

[flint imp]

yeah

[unkempt lake]

Turn it off

[flint imp]

i was gunna try it as soon as my game download finishes

[ashen spindle]

unlikely to be the cause if it then has issues booting after

[unkempt lake]

I have a feel it just gets stuck on ram training

[ashen spindle]

well if it would be stuck on ram training it wouldnt boot in the first place to get into r6 and crash there?

[unkempt lake]

Wonky imc perhaps

Anyhow still worth a shot

[ashen spindle]

the imc doesnt change either if it was a crash or not before the next boot

[unkempt lake]

well one thing's for sure is troubleshooting with an overclock is a stupid idea in the first place

Would be easier if i knew the lights he has on adter the crash

xmp off then 1 stick at a time

[ashen spindle]

that only would change something if theres an issue with the bios or smht and xmp triggers it

the ram stick loses all its data on power off so it would make no difference if it boots after a normal shutdown or the weird hanging

[unkempt lake]

he does say that clearing the cmos fixes it so

[ashen spindle]

yeah so points towards bios issue or similar

[unkempt lake]

Probably

Ram is easy to test and rule out

And the only change i suspect was done in the bios was expo

[iron wave]

Fun fact, some UEFIs use a Windows feature intended to install essential drivers to install malware.

[crimson wigeon]

But you DO want armoury crate!

[old marlin]

no

[reef patrol]

When the motherboard tries to install it's software because you reset the motherboard bios

When razer decides the first time windows setup is a great time to popup a synapse installer

[wild coyote]

Razer is built different

[sudden imp]

thats why I use gillete

[vagrant pagoda]

best part my motherboard dose that

[weak mortar]

Hi guys, I installed an update and without making expret my pc was down at the same time, the site no longer recognizes wooting, but my pc does

[vagrant pagoda]

did you try downloading wootility?

[weak mortar]

no

I have this

[reef patrol]

#💬│general message

[weak mortar]

okay

[iron wave]

My mouse somehow triggers Windows to install malware.

It didn't used to do that.

[weak mortar]

thank u i solve the problem

[reef patrol]

[molten cliff]

does anyone know whether the huntsman v2 or the wooting 80he have more spread out keys. I have the 60he mini and i get hand cramps because it is so small.

[iron wave]

You can figure that out based on product dimensions and pictures.

[molten cliff]

i'm trying but product dimensions don't directly translate to the space between keys

[iron wave]

Well, if you know product A is X wide and Y tall, you can put the image in something like Inkscape and scale it to match, draw boxes over the keys and measure that to get an approximate answer.

[gentle osprey]

They took our PhysX and now our ROPs too

[unkempt lake]

then the gpu melted

They took our graphics cards

[bright briar]

damn the new gen gpus really fucking suck

[lyric hatch]

dont worry AMD will save us

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-cat-nope-smh-kitty-gif-10126203

Intel is honestly more likely

Radeon is just too disorganized tbh

[halcyon moss]

Ai and gamer cards more Like it

[digital cliff]

they are exactly the same

that's really not a thing, keyboards are standard unless you include laptops and whatnot with keyboards built into the physical limitations of the device

[molten cliff]

my old mech keyboard was way bigger

[digital cliff]

I'd like to see that

[analog sinew]

then that keyboard was the weird one, most are the same size.

[wheat yacht]

Jesus what a shit show

[analog sinew]

yea

[old marlin]

Keyboards are standardized at 19mm pitch

Some rare exceptions where it is lower

[pale sigil]

I love UK shipping but it's kinda screwed me

I ordered all my NAS/server stuff Friday night and it's all coming today but I have no PSU lol

@ashen spindle you know PSU efficiently classes? Is the savings in electric?

As in gold is more efficient thus used less?

Or well use it more wisely?

[fair gull]

ur components using less is how you save electricity

like using some low wattage arm based pc

[pale sigil]

I get that

I'm just trying to understand the meaning behind the efficiency rating

[fair gull]

well 80+ just rates the PSU efficiency at different loads

basically output divided by input

thats the percentage it refers to

the stuff that isnt going to the output is lost to heat

[pale sigil]

So for a nas/server would bronze be bad?

I'm aiming for gold though

[fair gull]

if you actually device to build a tower/rack mount system youd shoot for a PSU that gets loaded at roughly 50% of its capacity by the components with platinum rating

most PSUs are the most efficient when loaded around half

ofc those systems still suck more than most prebuild nas since those hover around 60-100w usually

[pale sigil]

Well i was aiming for around 500-650w

Because I'm just running a 10700 and a intel sparkle a310 eventually

And ofc your normal ram/HDDs etc

[fair gull]

so just get a platinum psu thats roughly and then some as your systems max wattage

your nas will idle like 99% of the time

but you need to be able to supply the spike when it does do stuff

[pale sigil]

Hmm

Platinum is a pricey one

[fair gull]

its the most efficient one

also the only one with a 10% load rating

[pale sigil]

Well id have to go second hand

[fair gull]

so if youd run this near max load more consistently youd shoot for a 750-850w psu

realistically you wanna aim for 500-600w

[pale sigil]

I see

Very helpful information thank you

[fair gull]

goiing 650 or higher would only gain you decimals in the efficiency percentage most likely

and if you overshoot too much you loose efficiency with the assumed mostly idle

ofc if this will get used mostly and do media transcoding, streaming, and what not all day youd be wiser to shoot higher and get closer to 50% load

[pale sigil]

When I was running ATM10
on my 5600w with all outputs disabled I was only using around 80-100w

Hardly a good test but iw as curious.

[fair gull]

also seems gold doesnt lose too much in the 500-600w segment (if you ever load it as much as the system can)

[pale sigil]

So I'm not to worried

I need to check this case I got because some psus are slightly longer

Like this

[fair gull]

isnt that a 2000w psu

[pale sigil]

Probably but still

Should be fine though!

Mine isn't square for example

[fair gull]

gl breaking your fingers or the cords

[pale sigil]

Hahaha

Dreading it XD

[fair gull]

also unsure why youd overshoot so much

[halcyon moss]

Have you uh.. Calculated what the energy use would be, and how much that'd cost?

[fair gull]

the components can suck a bit over 400w

[pale sigil]

Yes

[halcyon moss]

Yeah that's high use though. For an always on device you should be optimizing for idle efficiency

[pale sigil]

That's the idea

[fair gull]

yes and i dont think you can really calc that

maybe guesstimate at best

[halcyon moss]

Components are tested for idle usage as well

[pale sigil]

I've kinda set a general calc

50w/100w/200w

Daily/monthly/yearly cost

[halcyon moss]

Kk

[pale sigil]

However I'm going to disable boost and do other stuff for when I'm not doing demanding stuff.

[halcyon moss]

Intel cpus are better at idle than amd so that's good.

[pale sigil]

It's definitely not the cheapest but at the same time I'll be saving money by not renting servers/renting Plex etc

Plex will probably be the most demanding I use but it won't be constant

[halcyon moss]

That's like driving a Ferrari instead of a small car

[pale sigil]

Well I wanted the power for other stuff really

When I need to vs constantly

Eg hosting game servers

[halcyon moss]

Anyway. Just wanted to you to be aware of energy costs

[fair gull]

id still not go with the 2000w psu tbh

[pale sigil]

I'm not getting a 2000w PSU XD

[fair gull]

you sent an image of a 2000w psu

[halcyon moss]

Most psu also have an efficiency graph

[pale sigil]

I just used the size as a shit example of different shapes

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/405524549520?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zfav9r_vsew&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=SCNqL5_SR_q&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[fair gull]

only 1000 and up usually even have that size

[pale sigil]

This looks cheaper than it should be

[fair gull]

anything below is almost square

[halcyon moss]

There used to be a online Calc for when the better efficiency outweighs the higher cost

[pale sigil]

Tbh @halcyon moss if it becomes an issue it's not a huge loss, I didn't spend much thankfully which is why I'm even doing this.

[reef patrol]

Just... Turn off the Nas if you're not using it for prolonged periods of time.

Or give it done WOL functionality

[pale sigil]

This is also true

But tbh I need my 24/7 storage hence why I'm going to get idle as low as possible.

I'm also using it for sync stuff

[halcyon moss]

Yeah you need it?

[pale sigil]

And I won't be the only one using it for Plex.

[halcyon moss]

No one needs and always on nas

[pale sigil]

I want to move away from google and I've heavily relied on network storage sync on all my devices.

[reef patrol]

I use my nas for two specific things. Plex once in a blue moon I get to use the living room television, and for long term storage of stuff

[pale sigil]

It's a mess since my nas died.

Everything is out of sync and I'm using cached data

[reef patrol]

That means I can keep it off around 99% of time

[pale sigil]

Literally nothing is stored on my devices

Even my downloads folder is synced with my last nas

Even my desktop folder

[reef patrol]

In fact it isn't even plugged in atm, cause I've been too lazy to reroute cables up on the shelf it's on when I redid all of my cables to fit in the cable ducts in my table.

[fair gull]

honestly

i might just buy a sata usb cable/dock

and use the 4tb drive i have flying around to just long term store stuff

[reef patrol]

I refuse to use those on principle

[fair gull]

not that i have anything id really store locally

as long as i can grab my phone everything is backed up

[pale sigil]

Tbh the original reason I wanted a nas years ago was so I could just not have any drives in my computer.

[fair gull]

the only thing ive wanted to look into is paperless for document management so i have 1 search through all pdfs

[pale sigil]

It brought me great happiness for many years just having an nvme

[magic minnow]

I really hope the One Plus 13 Mini is real

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_we_cvY2Zto ah yes :3

[magic minnow]

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5070-ti-with-missing-rops-offers-up-to-11-lower-performance-in-synthetic-tests

Is this the same as the video?

[steady sail]

nahvidia

[ashen spindle]

yes a few percent, not doing to make up the extra cost for anything above gold

especially if most of the time its idle/low power

[steady sail]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/physx-feature-unlocked-for-rtx-5090-with-rtx-3050-helper-to-enable-full-performance

[pale sigil]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/405524549520?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zfav9r_vsew&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=SCNqL5_SR_q&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Does this seem too good to be true?

TIL charities sell on eBay

[reef patrol]

Full circle. That's what we used to do before Nividia included it in all cards.

PhysX cards used to be a separate thing, then you'd use a secondary GPU just for it. And finally it was just part of all cards and powerful enough.

[pale sigil]

@fair gull example of what I meant

Not just square, similar to mine

[fair gull]

also imagine you can prob use any gtx/rtx card for physx help and it doesnt need to be a 30series.

[pale sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mffpc/comments/1i7y0eu/lian_li_a3_w_rtx_4090_and_180mm_atx_psu/

Does seem like it supports 180mm

[reef patrol]

Oh yeah sure. Ancient ones should be fine. PhysX stopped being used in games a decade ago, so I think any old 1050 or whatnot could do it just fine?

Reddit says a 1030 works just fine. And those are dirt cheap.

Still holding hope for Nvidia to be pressured into releasing the source code, or providing a translation layer though. It shouldn't fall on the community to fix their shit 😄

[normal gazelle]

i need help my wooting 60he plus or smth wont turn on its plugged in but no rgb keys dont work and ive had it for a month now it just now did this can sm help?

[reef patrol]

#💬│general message
Try this - And if that doesn't work reach out to customer support via the website.

[normal gazelle]

k

[reef patrol]

Buddy.

I didn't tell you to ASK in General. I asked you to click the link and READ the message it specifically pointed to 😄

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-barnacles-gif-27349480

[normal gazelle]

oh

[magic minnow]

It has different mounting positions should show on the website

[pale sigil]

Aye

[magic minnow]

Yeee!

[pale sigil]

Just makes it a bit more annoying

[fair gull]

ideally the driver could just translate at almost no overhead

[crimson wigeon]

No see if they were to provide the code that means people could make it work on other GPUs too WE CAN'T HAVE THAT

[pale sigil]

Really regret binning my old psu

Then again it wasn't used for like 3 years straight

[cursive summit]

I don't think this was posted yet https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-gaming-performance-leaked-rx-9070xt-is-42-faster-on-average-than-7900-gre-at-4k

Supposedly leaked from official slides

+42% is RTX 4080 territory

Looks like a really good card, if the pricing is right

And if they are comparing it heavily against the GRE and not the XT, that means the pricing should be similar, so a bit above 550$? So 599?

599$ card with 4080 performance is very welcome

Yeah Nvidia can fuck off with these prices, cheapest Ti being over a grand

[rough osprey]

msrp models sold out ig

[cursive summit]

Yeah it's a bit annoying that AMD likely miscalculated just how bad Nvidia's Blackwell is going to be so they were only going to target mid-end

They could have easily competed with 5080 with a higher end model which they just didn't work on

[rough osprey]

evil sellers using the situation 😡

[cursive summit]

I hope UDNA1 is an RDNA2 moment and NV will get fucked across the whole stack

[rough osprey]

im staying team green

[crimson wigeon]

Don't worry that was just a jebait they'll release a competitor to 5080 and 5090

[cursive summit]

So, reading about this https://xcancel.com/facegamefps/status/1893067000202584119

People managed to enable MFG3X and 4X on 4000 series

MFG4X is pretty ass, suppose cause MFG does use some kind of tech features that RTX 50 has improved massively over 40 series, but 40 series can still attempt to work with, but MFG3X apparently works rather well

[rough osprey]

wth is that website

[cursive summit]

What website

Xcancel? Same shit as vxtwitter or fxtwitter as I think it was known years ago, bypassing Twitter's direct login requirements

[rough osprey]

but it doesnt open the app :/

[cursive summit]

There's a twitter app?

Not installing that trash

[chrome prawn]

UDNA1? New architecture on the wat already?

[cursive summit]

Well yeah that's what it'll be called, no it's not coming out before 2026

[rough osprey]

and it kinda breaks the reddit link without logging in lol

the comments kinda say that its just duplicating the frames and compare it to the framegen on 30 cards when 40 launched

[cursive summit]

duplicating the frames
So, exactly what DLSS-FG does

(t'was a joke)

Some comments are saying it just duplicates the 2nd fake frame from 1st fake frame, but others are saying it just feels fine so... who the hell knows I need testing

https://xcancel.com/GawroskiT/status/1893647608481997259/photo/1
https://xcancel.com/GawroskiT/status/1893643303611977976