🔌│tech

[wheat plume]

MP3 players are expensive these days

[empty wren]

Why not an old lg v series

[iron wave]

Website gore: a black on dark gray QR code so you can't scan it instead of just giving you a NORMAL TRACKING LINK LIKE EVERY OTHER WEBSITE EVER. (the 0xFF00FF was me censoring the QR code).

[empty wren]

if only shop did not vaporize the dark mode

[gusty kiln]

Cuz the amp and dac are a lot better than the ones in the early 2000s

Also a lot of them are basically android phones with better audio components

[iron wave]

Also everyone has a phone so they are lower volume because most people will just use their phone instead of multiple dedicated devices.

[iron wave]

I bet that's just audiophile garbage at that price though.

[wheat plume]

Someone in the reviews said it's a nice and affordable daily driver

What tf part of this is affordable?!??

[ashen spindle]

what are they comparing it to, what do other ones cost, who says it was the same price when the review was made like 3 years ago etc.

[wheat plume]

This is the most expensive one I found on this site

[ashen spindle]

yeah but what do other amps of similar quality cost

who says the review is even real

[sharp badger]

https://www.headfonia.com/astell-kern-sp2000-review/4/ This was a review in 2020 and have some comparisons

Niche market & not for me though, too lazy to carry another device around when i've already got a phone

[iron wave]

I would just rather my $2000 phone to have a headset jack.

[empty wren]

What is rather disappointing is the lack of quality USB c audio. Could actually be good having not to rely on phone hardware but alas

[iron wave]

I mean, what stops you from making a USB C DAC?

Though I haven't had issues with audio quality from USB C.

[unkempt lake]

no one needs one of these unless they're crazy serious about audio

Everyone has an mp3 player it's called a phone

[wheat plume]

Yeh exactly

[unkempt lake]

I literally can't remember the last time i used the headphone jack on my phone

[iron wave]

I was using mine until it got deleted for no reason.

[unkempt lake]

It's been that long

[analog sinew]

i would use it if i had one

wearing headphones for grocery shopping

irl adblock

[modern sky]

It's why Im eyeing an pine phone unironically despite the extremely low specs

[unkempt lake]

I just use bluetooth audio in my car and only headphones i use are when im at my pc

[unkempt lake]

no

[iron wave]

I have one, not worth.

[unkempt lake]

i dont feel like getting stabbed @analog sinew

[iron wave]

I use USB audio in my car.

[unkempt lake]

gotta have situational awareness

[analog sinew]

you are not being stabbed because you have headphones in

[unkempt lake]

someone can sneak up on you

It makes you less aware of your surroundings

[analog sinew]

yes and

most places arent swarming with knife wielding murderers

youre just paranoid

and i know the PA ads

those are real

[unkempt lake]

won't deny it

[iron wave]

My headphones have audio passthough. :-)

[unkempt lake]

Fancy

[analog sinew]

and the pa ads hurt me more than any knife could

[iron wave]

Also yeah I would never walk around a store with headphones, too dangerous.

[analog sinew]

what

[unkempt lake]

Ayyy i'm not alone

[analog sinew]

is this some kind of north american fear i have never heard of

[iron wave]

There is always a chance that something is going on (doesn't have to be someone with a knife or whatever) that you can miss.

[analog sinew]

🤷‍♂️

then idgaf

and i still hear with headphones

my situational awareness is sharp too

[unkempt lake]

anyhow when im in the store i dont take my time

I hurry the fuck up and head back to my car

Headphones would just be a hassle

And slow me

[iron wave]

This too.

[lyric hatch]

Transparency mode works well on some headphones

Mainly apple ones

[bright briar]

tf is the apple AI app

playground or whatever

y'all seen it?

[rough osprey]

dont have it here

[lyric hatch]

It's just heavily censored chapgpt from what I hear about it

Gemini seems to be better in pretty much every way

[iron wave]

It works pretty well on mine, but I still miss the occasional thing from my music.

[iron wave]

Just download deep seek or whatever and run it locally.

[astral haven]

its for image generation, cant find where you can do queries

as meh as the quality is, its very nice that its 100% local
working perfectly in airplane mode

[lyric hatch]

Seems to be advertised as an emoji generator only really

And seems to recommend chatgpt for things it can't figure out from what I can see

[astral haven]

link?

[lyric hatch]

That might be being confused reading about both apple intelligence and image playground

[astral haven]

rip 20% of my battery in 30 minutes

yea i cant get it to do anything higher quality, and it just goes grey if theres a word it doesnt understand

I'm so shocked

[lyric hatch]

They do say they do "ethical training"

[iron wave]

Let's just not use it and maybe they'll delete it.

[lyric hatch]

Has made these product announcements a lot more boring, but I guess those aren't really for us anymore

[iron wave]

They are for investors.

[north oasis]

Anyone in uk got there’s

[magic minnow]

Noctua needs to hurry the fuck up with the Black G2

[bright briar]

fr and they need to blow on that thang

[unkempt lake]

YOU DONT NEED IT

STAWP

[magic minnow]

It has the lowest temps though out of any cpu cooler

[unkempt lake]

yes but your uh

Praetor whatever the fuck

Is fine

[rough osprey]

7 cpu thingies, 2 graphic stuff, 9 memory devices and 1 power station

[unkempt lake]

I rate it 69 moumous out of 100

[rough osprey]

nice

[magic minnow]

Only 6 heat pipes compare to the 8

[rough osprey]

less is more

[lyric hatch]

New iPhone look?

[rough osprey]

tf

[magic minnow]

For the thin one maybe?

[lyric hatch]

https://youtu.be/08JoSCHV9VY

[rough osprey]

i dont believe it

too ugly and kinda dumb

[edgy sluice]

is the apex pro mini better or the wooting 60he?

[gentle osprey]

im on 14 rn, ima wait till iphone 21 comes out

[unkempt lake]

Am on 14 pro and i don't need anything extra

[gentle osprey]

yeah same

pro max or whatever

[unkempt lake]

i'm on the pro smol

[gentle osprey]

oh ok

[unkempt lake]

But yeah i had my battery replaced by apple and they swapped out the whole phone cuz i live 4 hours away from an apple store

So they just shipped me a new phone and asked me to send the old one back

[gentle osprey]

at no extra cost?

[unkempt lake]

No extra

[magic minnow]

I might honestly jump ship to OnePlus

If that 13 Mini is real

[gentle osprey]

[unkempt lake]

Well besides charging my credit card and then removing the autorisation after i shipped back my old one

But yeah its cool i got a new phone just cuz i had no apple store nearby lol

[gentle osprey]

[unkempt lake]

And asking me to drive 4 hours woulda made them look stupid

[gentle osprey]

imagine tho

if they did ask

[unkempt lake]

I'd have lost my shit xd

Been angy

lemme drive 4 hours for an 85$ battery

or whatever the cost was again

I'd have provably just waited and went at some point

This 14 pro's battery is way better than my old one's @gentle osprey

Had it since october and still an at 100% health

My old one would drop like... 1% per month fron the moment i got it

Ended up at 79% right after the 2 year mark

I got the phone at launch, was replaced this october

So far i'm 4 months in and it's still at 100 lets hope it stays that way

[gentle osprey]

I haven't even checked mine tbh

[lyric hatch]

I'm expecting this phone I just got to last a long time

Actually gonna use a case this time to give it an even better chance at lasting longer

[vapid ruin]

You dont usually use a case???

[gentle osprey]

I have a caudabe sheath on mine

[lyric hatch]

Haven't used a case in 3 phones

[vapid ruin]

Damn

[unkempt lake]

Get a spigen ultra hybrid case

I like mine

I drop my phone 10 trillion times a day

[lyric hatch]

I have faith in my ability to not drop my phone

[halcyon moss]

No stand?

[lyric hatch]

I did look at that case but ended up getting this Torras one instead

[unkempt lake]

Looks nice

it has a ring machine thingy

That's cool

[lyric hatch]

Yeah can use it to prop the phone up in both portrait and landscape

It's pretty neat

[crisp granite]

thankfully you no longer clean your phone daily as well

doofus

[unkempt lake]

AMD: fixes a random black screen issue with anti lag 2

Spiderman Devs: Remove anti lag 2 because of the black screen issue https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/anti-lag-2-removed-from-spider-man-2-pc-port-due-to-game-crashes-on-radeon-gpus

truly a good meme

all in the SAME day

[unkempt lake]

shaming me for texting in the shower smh

ITS WATERPROOF

IT WORKIES

[crisp granite]

that doesn't mean you tempt fate

[unkempt lake]

well we need to have more boring chats then

smh

[lyric hatch]

guess you need one of those IP69 phones

[unkempt lake]

nah

I don't hold it uhder the water of the shower xd

[balmy vector]

CarterPCs

[unkempt lake]

but you're right more water resistance more better, that way i can text @crisp granite in the shower without her calling me a dumbass

am i the wierd one texting people while i shower

It's not that wierd right?

I can't be the only one

[unkempt lake]

what

what is carterpcs

[crisp granite]

I still will

[unkempt lake]

you're my bestie it is your job to bully me

when i do

Stupid shit

[lyric hatch]

I'm half asleep when i shower so I get in get clean and get out

[balmy vector]

And then sleep

[lyric hatch]

I wish

[digital cliff]

I do it sometimes but the water messes up the digitizer and I get so many misinputs

[unkempt lake]

I just idk hold it away from the water

[analog sinew]

yall Text in the shower?

wild

[digital cliff]

yeah but then it's not so convenient

[shy radish]

Can you mod daughter board to 60he? Does it affect performance?

[analog sinew]

what kind of daughterboard? but that sounds nearly impossible unless you mod the firmware or sth

[shy radish]

Shame 🫠 I really like some case but they only support daughter board, back to tofu60 I guess

[digital cliff]

depends on how good you are with soldering, see no reason why you technically couldn't, if you wanted to

i meant it's basically just extending the leads so

[reef patrol]

The 60HE does not have a daughterboard. All of the power is controlled directly on the PCB itself.

Could you somehow extend the USB cable to support some third party 60% cases? Maybe. But you'd be working with soldering, and you'd be losing your warranty.

[distant tapir]

9800X3D IGPU is not very powerful!

I am barely hitting 60 fps in Pillars of Eternity 1 on lowest settings, 1600 x 1200

But I also feel like this game runs very poorly for how it looks

[reef patrol]

It's a 2D game with 3D sprites. I bet it's the engine having limits, not your hardware

[magic minnow]

7900xtx today fellas

I’ve betrayed Nvidia

[crimson wigeon]

B-BUT DLSS RTX ON

[magic minnow]

[sudden imp]

Can’t wait for 2018 crypto pricing

[thin axle]

I think they only dropped the 5000 series cards now because they wanted to avoid tariffs.

[marsh glade]

It's not about avoiding tariffs, it's about setting the pretariff MSRP

[ashen spindle]

They also habe set dates for launches but lowerr wafer supply because data center back well needed a respin to fix issue so that ate into client wafer allocation

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB75fEt7tH0 well

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-14400882110058374636

[stiff path]

Came here for this

Again this reminds me of 13/14 gen

Anyone with technical knowledge know if this is fixable or an inherent issue that is very problematic?

[steady sail]

im just gonna be happy with AMD

[stiff path]

Well my next cpu is def amd

[sudden imp]

2 8pin pcie is all you need :3

[steady sail]

its an issue with the connector, so if nvidia doesnt do something about it

[stiff path]

Amazing they didnt catch this

[sudden imp]

The 12x6 is cool and makes things easier but if it comes at the cost of a house fire that might be an issue

[steady sail]

i mean they have 4 12x6 connector

[reef patrol]

Not on production cards.

[steady sail]

👀

[analog sinew]

inherent

it combines 6 12v lines into one then has one shunt

the card has no way to know what is going on

yep those are just decoration

the colored connector plastic does the same thing (checking its plugged in)

[rough osprey]

this color makes me angry

[spiral island]

I found the bull ^

[rough osprey]

[analog sinew]

🐮

[stiff path]

So is it reasonable to compare it to the 13/14th gen in that the fix may require lowering voltage?

[analog sinew]

no the connector is just shit

and the cable

and everything attached to it

[astral haven]

I do think that the reporting on this is irresponsible, blaming the connector is shifting the blame away from nvidia when nvidia not only knows how to make the connector safe, but they did it before with 30 series

[astral haven]

and this is what i mean with irresponsible reporting
the solution exists and has been done before, and requires no change in the connector or cable

[reef patrol]

Which is?

[vagrant pagoda]

Per pin current regulation or at least per 2

[reef patrol]

So... something the cards can't do? A total recall?

That's just as bad as "the connector or cable is wrong"

[astral haven]

yea but its a recall of specific pcbs, not of the connector

the amd cards, 30 series are unaffected

[vagrant pagoda]

On the 5090 Fe they need a new connector

[astral haven]

or a new pcb

[vagrant pagoda]

The connector physically connects the pins

[astral haven]

wut

[vagrant pagoda]

On the fe

The 90 degree one for the fe

[astral haven]

ffs

[vagrant pagoda]

All the pins are literally one piece of metal

They literally had a plated slot in the PCB that it gets soldered to

[unkempt lake]

Imagine recalling every 40 and 50 series

That'd be... quite the recall

[reef patrol]

I mean... frankly they should be forced to do exactly that. For every PCB that is affected by this.

[astral haven]

it would only be the cards over 275w, 325 by eating up safety margins

[spiral island]

Sorry I'm late to the conversation, is there a news article about what's going on so I can catch up?

[astral haven]

vid

[reef patrol]

Nvidia don't have wire balancing, so in some situations a single wire will pull a LOT more than it should.

[unkempt lake]

So 4080 and 4090, 5080 and 5090

[reef patrol]

Wires aren't specced for that, and could catch fire. Very TLDR*

[astral haven]

yep pretty much

[spiral island]

Delightful T_T fuck me and thanks for the tl;dr (watching vid)

[vagrant pagoda]

Solid connector lol

Also note that all high-end gpus and motherboards already do that. This is literally a new thing for the 40 and 50 series with the 12 volt

[unkempt lake]

Why fuck you

Do you have a 50 series?

[spiral island]

4090

[vagrant pagoda]

And Nvidia is obviously preventing partners from correcting it. Has Asus already has six current shunts on their board but they have it going to one vrm rail

So the shunts just warn you if the connection is bad

[reef patrol]

Wasn't that over the top 5090 safe from this or did I misunderstand the video?

The... astral or somesuch

[vagrant pagoda]

It can't actually prevent you from burning the connector it will just warn you

[unkempt lake]

I struggle to understand why people kept buying those with the whole connector crap

[astral haven]

because noone else makes as fast a gpu

[reef patrol]

Marketing downplaying it, most consumers don't actually watch reviews or news.

[vagrant pagoda]

It's not that common of an issue

It just shouldn't be an issue

[unkempt lake]

Like we've known about this for ages yet 4080 and 4090s sold like hotcakes

[spiral island]

At the time the guidance seemed to be "if you give it the proper slack and don't bend it you're good"

[reef patrol]

I recall Linus going into this in the LTT Show recently. That most consumers don't even watch reviews, and rely purely on word of mouth from friends.

[vagrant pagoda]

Nvidia has decided to make it worse and keeps doubling down on it

[unkempt lake]

Because people kept blaming user error

[spiral island]

So I did just that - took great care to not bend and give it plenty of room

[astral haven]

people also kept blaming the connector when the root cause was the monitoring

[vagrant pagoda]

Nvidia knows how to fix it and they are actively preventing it from being fixed

[unkempt lake]

What would be the logic in thay tho

[astral haven]

if nvidia had this same circuitry with 3x8 pin, this exact issue would still occur

[vagrant pagoda]

Ask Jensen

[vagrant pagoda]

It happened a lot with triple connector cards with per connector rail ocp on psus

[sharp badger]

Lmao secondhand market go brrr

[vagrant pagoda]

When you were doing xoc it would pull too much from one of the connectors and trip the OCP

So you had to get single rail psus

[unkempt lake]

The more crap happens with nvidia the more i feel like a 7900xtx was a good decision

Fastest card that won't fricking melt xD

[vagrant pagoda]

But once they went to separate shunts per connector the GPU would balance

[astral haven]

the actual reason probably has to do with firmware updates, if everyone has the exact same power monitoring, nvidia can quickly push firmware updates

[unkempt lake]

I wonder if the melt panic 2.0 will make people sell 40 series for cheap

As no one will want them atm

[vagrant pagoda]

Don't GPUs also have on die ldo? Can't they get current there?

[vagrant pagoda]

Lmao

[unkempt lake]

Assuming people have half a braincell which... i doubt

[sharp badger]

If i'll get a good deal on a 4090 i'd buy that any day lol

[vagrant pagoda]

China is pulling 4090 cores and vram and putting them in dual 8pin eps pcbs

So the market is still high for used 4090s

[astral haven]

if that thing detects a current spike, its already too late and your core is a crater

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but oes have always done the power control on the PCB, I'm saying why did nivida cut them out of that

[spiral island]

This is making me think I should finally invest in a clamp ammeter 😕

[astral haven]

get a thermal camera

[spiral island]

Way more expensive for a good one

[astral haven]

that is not true at all lol

[spiral island]

Uh

Okay 🤷

[astral haven]

good clamp amp meters cost in the 2-3k region for the sensor and 20k for the scope attached to them

[sharp badger]

Cheapest 7900XTX here & over 25 cards available

[spiral island]

Not to nitpick, but can you show me a multi-G clamp ammeter?

I usually go w/ Fluke and even though they're expensive they're worth the investment, and even those are on the order of $300

[astral haven]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/teledyne-lecroy/CP031A/5298057?gQT=1

this is just the sensor, also need an oscilloscope

[spiral island]

I suspect we are talking about different tools

[astral haven]

nope

same function just faster

[sharp badger]

Fluke should be good enough for most people?

[unkempt lake]

It's back to launch price lmao

[steady sail]

the fluke is more then enough

[spiral island]

I know... whatever, you win dude.

[astral haven]

as are the cheap usb infrared cameras

[spiral island]

Ya GOT MEH

[vagrant pagoda]

Nah USB scopes fast enough for any current clamp aren't that much

And you want a shunt not a clamp anyway

Inductive sensors suck for transients.

Best option is just to pay Igor

[astral haven]

alot of these use much fancier stuff
remember the rating is the rating

[spiral island]

I'm just an idiot comp sci kid who likes to play at EE.

[astral haven]

100mhz = 100mhz

[unkempt lake]

@spiral island why do you not run a turing gpu

[vagrant pagoda]

Tell me how a clamp meter isn't an inductive sensor?

[spiral island]

I did and still have it.

[unkempt lake]

That way it can match your username

For extra cool points

[spiral island]

I have enough cool points for a lifetime

[astral haven]

hall effect for example

[vagrant pagoda]

Hall effect is inductive lol

[unkempt lake]

Pfffft

[astral haven]

no

[unkempt lake]

Ok your pfp is pretty cool i'll give you that

[steady sail]

u dont need a multi thousand dollar worth clamp meter

[astral haven]

and u dont need a multi thousand dollar worth infrared camera

[spiral island]

Anyway, I've had my eyes on a current clamp for years not just for thermal concerns but just roughly measuring current in projects without having to go in-line

Thermal camera would be nice too but we can't have all the toys can we?

(wait can we)

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean magnetic not inductive

[astral haven]

with hall effect you can do some insane stuff like measuring the ac current in a wire that has live and neutral without stripping

[vagrant pagoda]

The little uni-t one is amazing

[spiral island]

Sweet, thank you for the rec

[vagrant pagoda]

The 210

You can always loop the wire in a clamp for more resolution within reason

And the 2a on that is pretty good

also thing remember with any cheap meter. i wouldnt use it on anything more than a branch circuit in your home. It isnt bad, but i wouldnt trust it with a main 200a 220v feed

thats with voltage, the current clamp is basicly measure any voltage that the wire insulation can handle

[stiff path]

Should we be worried about 4090s

Even with atx 3.0?

[spiral island]

I try to avoid messing w/ my home's AC as much as possible, but I appreciate the word of warning 🙂

[spiral island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB75fEt7tH0
I don't have any additional info to provide really. Seems like there's some valid concerns, and should probably keep your ear out for any further news.

[spiral island]

I appreciate the info, I just think it’s a little above my pay grade and needs.

[astral haven]

I'm obviously not recommending it

I'm just saying you can spend that much on it, just like you can on infrared cameras

[stiff path]

Skimmed through this, thought it was 5090s only

[astral haven]

My ir camera was $109, although it's become a lot more expensive recently

[stiff path]

You do if you want to see UAPs

[vagrant pagoda]

4080/4090/5090/5080 have the same flaw

[stiff path]

Fak

[vagrant pagoda]

my $300 phones thermal camera can check that

[spiral island]

I stand corrected

[vagrant pagoda]

love al the people who said that 20a over a single 18g was impossible XD

like that isnt even that high

[astral haven]

That's pretty funny

[spiral island]

Isn’t the current over gage limits very well documented?

[steady sail]

u can easily put more on a single cable

[astral haven]

2k amps over 18 guage will be like what they describe lel

[astral haven]

For safety, not actual physical limits

[somber coral]

yo guys whats the difference between thhese 3

[spiral island]

I would have thought failure thresholds as well

[vagrant pagoda]

yep

[steady sail]

beta is the newer

[astral haven]

Yea but failure thresholds of safety over an extreme long term are not the same as failure thresholds for instant combustion

[spiral island]

Still very much a student in this area

Sure fair enough

[vagrant pagoda]

also 80c rated 16awg can do 19a

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywaTX-nLm6Y

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[astral haven]

dont remember what gauge copper wire he threw in there, but it detonated with something on the order of 10ka

[vagrant pagoda]

my pc is all 17awg mpdc and thats 125c and 25 amps

[astral haven]

the way people are describing 50 series it sounds like this will happen but no

[vagrant pagoda]

well i think my older cables are 15 so those would be 30a

but you can literaly get a 30a rated wire into a 12vhpwr connector

wouldnt stop the connector from melting, but the wire would be not only fine, but under the spec

also that is 900v@125C, pretty sure even with a exponential breakdown, at 12v it could easily take 150 or even 175

[astral haven]

weak link has always been the connections,

[vagrant pagoda]

yep

[cedar fog]

so I'm not really aware what's up

[vagrant pagoda]

mdpx extreme is ptfe, so thats good to 200c before failure

[cedar fog]

are these newer cards $1500+ fire starters

?

[vagrant pagoda]

so even 40-50a wouldnt melt it

even pvc jacket will be fine at 100+c

[astral haven]

if you are not even that unlucky, yes

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah pvc soften temp is 92c

[stiff path]

Ping me if you find a solution to the 4090s

[astral haven]

look at then touch the housing,

if it looks melted dont touch it, if its very hot to the touch, then replug

[vagrant pagoda]

get a elmor labs inline current meter and use a 2x8 to 12vhpwr

[stiff path]

Wut is that

[vagrant pagoda]

it goes inline of your psu cables and will tell you want the current is between them

[balmy vector]

Can i eat it?

[vagrant pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[stiff path]

It tells me what the current is but thats it?

[steady sail]

overall i think u are safer on a 4090 bc of the headroom over the 5090's headroom xd

[vagrant pagoda]

you can have it alarm is current goes over a set point per connector

using 3x8pin to 12vhpwer you can monitor 2 pins at a time for current

[spiral island]

Please don’t rely on me for your safety 😅 but I will let you know if I hear something

[vagrant pagoda]

so set that to like 16a

and youll know if the connector is loose or bad contact

though it like 90% not worth it

@astral haven perfect time for elmor to make a per pin 12vhpwr pmd

[steady sail]

https://elmorlabs.com/product/elmorlabs-pmd2/ its nice yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

elmore or roman

[topaz quest]

yo i need help im looking for a good gaming router that allows me to use micro sims

[reef patrol]

Please don't crosspost. Asking in one channel is sufficient.

[topaz quest]

sorry

i js need help desperatly

can you help? or

[somber coral]

ty

[topaz quest]

hey can u help me out

[somber coral]

i mean maybe

ngl idk much abt gaming routers

i wouldnt feel comfortable reccomending you anything lol\

just cuz idk much on that topic

[topaz quest]

alr

[steady sail]

yes

soo Takyon can u recommend me some nice frogs please

[vagrant pagoda]

no way you can actually be desperate a router

[topaz quest]

yes..

[balmy vector]

To add to this, Mission golden eyed tree frog

[topaz quest]

router not a modem

[cedar fog]

weren't tp link routers getting actively investigated for security concerns

[topaz quest]

is a pcie card support same as micro sim

wtf is a pcie then

wait takyon i got a question u seem u know alot abt routers

if i get a gaming router n attach my ethernet cable

how much i pay monthly

[cedar fog]

this is so cool

[topaz quest]

how much u pay monthly

[cedar fog]

you don't pay extra to use Ethernet 😭

[steady sail]

different countries and monthly pays

[topaz quest]

no like heres the thing i use a micro sim cuz i dont know wtf else to use

[vagrant pagoda]

i still want one of these

[steady sail]

how old and where are u living ?

[topaz quest]

13 n dubai

[cedar fog]

so you're using 5g likely

[topaz quest]

yes 5g

[steady sail]

ask your parents

[topaz quest]

but my router is so horrid its on 50 mb

[topaz quest]

my parents dont know nun abt routers

what do i ask him

[steady sail]

about an internet provider and u parents

[cedar fog]

it's likely their Internet is 5g internet no?

[topaz quest]

yeah

[cedar fog]

I've used it before seems more common nowadays

like verizon 5g internet or T-Mobile

[topaz quest]

wait how does a internet provider work

isnt it more expensive

like 200 monthly

[cedar fog]

yeah but it's probably still a service provider offering 5g internet

[sonic adder]

there are tiers

[topaz quest]

so its possible to find a decently priced one that supports 2k mb

well noto even supports that depends on router

i mean i js want a good router n i found one that supports 5k but it aint expensive

mb

like 200 dollars router

;(

[cedar fog]

It seems likely you currently have an internet plan that is using 5g instead of a wired connection

[topaz quest]

wdym meaningless

[cedar fog]

you cant just buy a router and get faster speeds

[topaz quest]

no ill get a internet provider like you guys said

instead of a micro sim

[cedar fog]

most providers will offer you a modem/router combo

so just ask your parents about swapping to a wired connection

and connect via Ethernet

[topaz quest]

im srry for the dumb question but by wired do you mean ethernet

[cedar fog]

no they run cables to houses for the connection versus 5g being a radio wave

[topaz quest]

what i use rn is just a huawei router with a ethernet cable and a microsim

[vagrant pagoda]

microsim = 5g though?

[topaz quest]

yes

[cedar fog]

basically this

[topaz quest]

wait im so confused so a better router doesnt mean better connection?

[cedar fog]

cables vs radio wave

[cedar fog]

no the router/modem can have better hardware and better firmware to handle other issues

[rough osprey]

5G dangerous

[topaz quest]

i thought even if ur internet plan sucks ur router will boost it insanely

[rough osprey]

huh

[cedar fog]

yeah sometimes too the infrastructure in place like the cables routed are older or being used by multiple people

[topaz quest]

so it doesnt rlly matter what router i get?

[cedar fog]

no

the one provided by an ISP is typically good enough for your plan

[topaz quest]

how much mb do yall get

[alpine patio]

https://prismplus.sg/collections/gaming-monitors/products/prism-w270c-ultra

👀 thoughts?

[topaz quest]

just generally

[balmy vector]

its a monitor

[alpine patio]

[cedar fog]

fairly good price for what it is

[topaz quest]

wait but i have a question im concerned about when i put the micro sim into my phone i get 1k mb but when its in my router i get 100-50.

[cedar fog]

I get gigabit

[alpine patio]

ye its a good offer

[topaz quest]

whats the problem?

yes

i get download 1k

my router only supports 300 mb

yes.

[cedar fog]

something you could do to try to increase speeds with 5g routers is positioning them higher up

like putting it up on a shelf

[topaz quest]

yes thats the main problem im looking to find a microsim router

[cedar fog]

or near windows

[topaz quest]

that supports micro sim

[cedar fog]

yeah tmk those 5g routers/modems are fairly expensive

[topaz quest]

heres the thing my router was good and runs perfectly ffine. but js like 2 weeks ago it became rlly slow for no reason

im not sure if its the router or micro sim

[cedar fog]

T-Mobile was gonna charge me $300 if I didn't return it

xD

[topaz quest]

that means..?

wt

[cedar fog]

You either ran into a datacap meaning they downgraded you to a slower speed or another possibility is you lost connection to the 5g band and it downgraded to 4g

so as I said

you could attempt to reposition your router

and see if it improves

[topaz quest]

i did

didnt improve

wdym by rollover sorry

huh.

i had this router for like 3 years

this is the first time it stopped being good

wait is that why when i try to download something my pc just acts like its in life support n becomes slow

nah js my wifi

tbf my pc sucks too

but mainly wifi

tysm takyon and bryiac

yall helped me sm

[cedar fog]

do you have du.ae

Du may reduce speeds for heavy users during peak hours. This includes users who download more than 300 GB per month.

[topaz quest]

whats du.ae

[cedar fog]

internet provider in dubai

[topaz quest]

OH

i dont think

[cedar fog]

tbh if you should just tell your parents the Internet is slow

and discuss it with them

[topaz quest]

i told them

alr tyt

tbf my only issue is i dont want the provider to be expensive

[cedar fog]

on the topic of 5g internet it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be I happened to live right next to a cellular tower at one point

and was pulling like 1.5-2gbps

both down and up

[topaz quest]

wait i had a wired connection before

[cedar fog]

crazy at the time it was cheaper at around $40 a month

[topaz quest]

but my dad says celluar is cheaper..?

i was paying 100 dollars monthly for only 100 mb speed

[cedar fog]

T-Mobile was trying to break into the Internet market so they offer piss low rates

[topaz quest]

what'd do it?

oh mb

is 100 dollars monthly considered normal?

well js to you

[cedar fog]

yeah it's different for everyone

[topaz quest]

alr

ty guys for helpin me

appreciate it alot

[cedar fog]

nvm T-Mobile 5g internet is still $35/m

I don't think Verizon is much more expensive either

that's crazy

guess it's just cause the infrastructure is here

they put 5g literally everywhere

not worth

id be out there digging a trench to run fiber lines before I used 4g for gaming

[topaz quest]

wait yall.

each country has a diff ips right

so whats direct internet?

not irrelvant just asking whats direct internet

it says on the ips

direct internet 100 mbps 1600/monthly.

1600 aed

so 300 dollars.

is that what yall told me to get?

why df is it so overpriced

wait takyon

[steady sail]

i guess work fees and shit

[topaz quest]

whats fiber packages

isnt that what u have

wait theres alot of options in the internet thingy

baity packages/coverage solutions/smart home/add-ons/international call charges

wait

fiber max speed.

is that monthly or one time pay

[steady sail]

monthly

[topaz quest]

oh fuck

why is this so expensive

1000 dollars monthly for 1gb

am i bein cheap or is that overpriced

[rough osprey]

ye your 1dollar might be 10 dollar for someone else

[topaz quest]

where u from>

an australlian dollar is 2 dollars to me

[cedar fog]

so like $275 USD

they probably just don't have much infrastructure in place for fiber

[topaz quest]

whats postpaid and prepaid

so prepaid is not monthly

im confused

[cedar fog]

prepaid is monthly but you're paying for a set amount of data

like 50gb

[topaz quest]

postpaid?

[cedar fog]

you just pay for your usage id assume

[topaz quest]

wait ips in countries are only 1 company?

or multiple

ahh

[bright briar]

i love it when my door dash driver cant drive properly and blame the "map in the app" tech doesnt deserve such hate

[topaz quest]

ah

isps have diff prices correct

[cedar fog]

it's also worth looking to see if other isp's around you have cheaper plans

as they might have the infrastructure

[topaz quest]

yeah imma check cuz i dont wanna be paying 1k monthly for 100 mbps

[steady sail]

where are u getting ur sim cards ?

[marsh pewter]

oh you know tim?

I guess the one constant in the world is a shady guy behind target

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-denies-rumors-of-radeon-rx-9070-xt-with-32gb-memory

[steady sail]

imo its gonna be a pro card or something

[balmy vector]

A mango classed card

[sudden imp]

Probably a ai card

Extra vram wouldnt give performance uplift in gaming

Maybe we get a 9080xt?

A procumer?

[steady sail]

nope its gonna be a Radeon Pro model card most likely

[sudden imp]

ahh

[vagrant pagoda]

not all ai need that much

[rough osprey]

ai cards lol

people gotta grow up

[vagrant pagoda]

128 isnt enough for bit models

saying that 128 is some bar isnt accurate

32 will run models 16 wont though

its a workstation card not a dc card

[ashen spindle]

if its a things it will just be the Workstation cards aka follow up to the W7900

[vagrant pagoda]

thats what radeon pro is

hence the video outputs

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-cards-at-msrp-spotted-at-retailers-all-two-of-them

[vagrant pagoda]

everything is an ai card these days

[ashen spindle]

though its funny because W7900 has 48GB xD

[unkempt lake]

I don't understand who would buy a 5070 ti

The pricing is insane

[vagrant pagoda]

9070 isnt replacing 7900xtx so yeah

[ashen spindle]

the people who cant pay more and dont want used

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean what else you gonna buy

[ashen spindle]

but for workstation the newer things for AI and such are much better than just the raw raster improvement

[vagrant pagoda]

4080 is oos everywhere pretty much

maybe

[analog sinew]

caseking are being majorily scummy

so i wouldnt take that as an indicator

[unkempt lake]

@analog sinew are 7900xtx vanished from germany yet xd

If they're not maybe you should consider one and cancel your 5080 lol

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-3989603362345473118

[analog sinew]

nah they arent

the uncertainty of that preorder is too much I dont think i can cancel it. What if it ships tomorrow

[unkempt lake]

I guess keep it and if you can get a 9070xt or something else then cancel it lol

Worse case you can always return it

[analog sinew]

tbh

if i get it at that price

it is still worth more on ebay lol

I could become the scalper

[digital cliff]

i don't get why anyone's buying the 5080 to be fair

[analog sinew]

if i get it for the price i bought it at, it's cheaper than i couldve gotten a 4080Super for

so that is an upgrade if slight

[digital cliff]

damn

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQtyxRtsqvA

[sharp badger]

Coming from a 20 series too is a massive gain

[astral haven]

cant think of a single reason?
its dramatically better at encoding https://www.pugetsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/5080_DR_LongGOP.png
its more efficient in gaming https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/images/energy-efficiency.png
and it overclocks quite well https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/images/overclocked-performance.png

[analog sinew]

markets fucked. But if it ever ships, I got a 5080 for 1.2k, which is fair.

[digital cliff]

is it?

[analog sinew]

well considering the situation the market is in yes

msrp is 1169

and its an AIB model

[digital cliff]

long as you like it

[analog sinew]

what the card should really cost is another thing

but i can't force nvidia to change that

[digital cliff]

anything else doesn't really matter

[analog sinew]

if it doesnt ship till i've played mhwilds i'm probably cancelling it and buying something else down the line

fucking sucks

tbf i'm pissed about the entire pc crap

no 7900xtx dashi

[unkempt lake]

You probably won't be done with the game by the time the 9070xt releases, that's always an option?

[digital cliff]

yeah pc crap sucks

[analog sinew]

sure

[unkempt lake]

I mean mh has a lot of replayablity

[analog sinew]

if the 9070xt is good i consider that

[digital cliff]

it's why I only buy secondhand and at a good price, I hate the new market

[sharp badger]

Well as long as the secondhand market is priced fairly, Tori have some stupid prices

[astral haven]

much slower tho unless amd makes an x3d variant

[unkempt lake]

I'll say tho pc parts last longer than they used to if you're just willing to drop a few settings

[unkempt lake]

He just wants an uograde to his 2070 super

[sharp badger]

Yes

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle yeeeeeeeeep https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsmc-considers-running-intel-us-190303431.html

[astral haven]

why bother upgrading if you wont get the perf you want in the end

[ashen spindle]

nah I still call BS

[unkempt lake]

Like... ultra settings are not required to have fun

[fickle ore]

its so weird lol

idk how it makes sense

[gusty kiln]

lmao what a name

[unkempt lake]

Mainly because he says his 2070 can't pay mh wilds at all. It's an unoptimized mess

[astral haven]

and even with reduced settings you are still not gonna be running most monitors maxed out, and raytracing does look much better

[sharp badger]

Personally just have periods where i don't want to play anything at all even though i've got games to play but just got other things to do or hobbies that are more interesting

[unkempt lake]

Gameplay > visuals

[fickle ore]

I would play more if I didnt have to work

[unkempt lake]

You can have an insanely fun game look fairly basic

[astral haven]

and you can have a game that relies on the spectacle

different types of games exist

[gentle osprey]

As well as different types of people

[unkempt lake]

Monster hunter looks ugly af no matter the settings you set it to i'll say

I think it's more about tak just being able to play the game at all lol

At a decent framerate

[astral haven]

screenies im seeing of world look decent

[sharp badger]

Competitive is boring, grinding games can suck but depends etc.

[astral haven]

is wild even out?

[balmy vector]

not yet

end of month

[unkempt lake]

Different game

[sharp badger]

I've had games where i started to play for 5 minutes and just uninstalled after that because i just felt nah, can't be spending time on this

[unkempt lake]

World actually looks better than wilds lol

[unkempt lake]

Beta was out

And uh... damn what an ugly game

• runs like doodoo

The only nice thing about the game are the weather effects

[marsh pewter]

I thought its been out for a while no? I mean I assumed it was a PS1 game .

[sharp badger]

Also dislike playing games again but it depends on the game

[unkempt lake]

The models look ugly textures are low res the antialiasing solution they used is some of the worse TAA I've ever eeen and i'm generally not picky on the whole taa bad thing

Literally i'd rather play monster hunter rise because at least the models look clear and not like a blurry mess

Also the overall color palette of wilds is just so... bland

[sharp badger]

Got quite a lot of playtime of No man's sky

[unkempt lake]

Game makes me feel depressed not happy

Like come on game give me a bit of color or a few things that stand out

[vagrant pagoda]

just enough to get though all the gameplay

[unkempt lake]

Not just... boring bland crap

[sharp badger]

I think i got MH:Rise for free and didn't play lol

Oh ffs

[balmy vector]

bonk

[unkempt lake]

It's fun

[ashen spindle]

weird spam <@&1098943457654997093>

[analog sinew]

it can play it but its more eh

it runs barely 60 on medium settings

i dont need 120fps ultra but eh

and i bought a whole rest of the computer

so i wanna get a gpu to match what i bought

[marsh glade]

Man y'all having a blast tagging moderators today

Glad I don't have that role

[halcyon moss]

That's what it's for 🙂

[ashen spindle]

@/Calder mark needs a new role

[sharp badger]

Lmao another one

[ashen spindle]

sorry person didnt mean to ping, discord didnt swap the userlist

[analog sinew]

we can ping you manually if you want us to

[halcyon moss]

So you choose death

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-dance-dancing-lizard-end-my-suffering-gif-26435006

[astral haven]

@/Wooting Team Mod

[marsh glade]

Okay I (think) I've updated the regex to account for this new variant

Ping me if it pops back up

[spiral island]

.*

[thick elk]

Oh boy youtuber drama time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1W8YYOPSu4&t=219s
Ares really lost it in this one, for no good reason.

[ashen spindle]

oh hey hes using a wooting

[wild coyote]

Got my new hardware, gg

[thick elk]

Just noticed that, let's for get that bit for now.

[ashen spindle]

does look like roman commented and maybe they'll sort it out in detail before another video

[vagrant pagoda]

That's just like rambling the whole time lol

[thick elk]

I think there will be little reason for him to respond in video either way.
Let's hope bridges don't get burned too badly on this one.

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/good-hate-powerful-gif-15638077193945198456

[steady sail]

<@&1098943457654997093> its payday

[ashen spindle]

@marsh glade tag just for you

[sudden imp]

'The sith talk is absolutes'

[unkempt lake]

angry guy with an accent is yelling at the camera

i don't even care what he's saying he just seems stupid lol

[ashen spindle]

...Aris is most definitely not stupid

[unkempt lake]

i said he seems

Stupid

Being able to articulate a point in a calm and collected manner is kinda basic

If someone can't do that then I don't give a fuck what they have to say

Dude's practically yelling at the camera lol

And getting visibly heated over shit

[ashen spindle]

thats like the opposite of how it should be done lol

I dont care if someone can do a good presentation if the content is correct

[vagrant pagoda]

and being wrong dosent make it better

[ashen spindle]

who cares if you present bad facts in a good way

[unkempt lake]

What's the point of presenting facts if you don't even try to make it decent

[ashen spindle]

because people care about the facts not the presentation?

[vagrant pagoda]

tell that to rossman XD

[unkempt lake]

both matter

[astral haven]

thats the opposite of true on average

[unkempt lake]

The facts matter more but I'm not gonna waste my time listening to him talk

[ashen spindle]

"I dismiss his points because he isnt presenting well" is just kind of a bad way and how we get to all these clickbait bs

[unkempt lake]

Someone who presents well i can focus more on the facts and destroy the shit coming out of their mouths easier

[astral haven]

its a heuristic that works 99% of the time

[unkempt lake]

Someone who just yells isn't worth even talking to

They can come back when they're calmer

Same applies with youtube videos lol

Dude shoulda taken a chill pill then recorded xD

[astral haven]

if you are getting emotional about the presentation, how can we trust you to not be emotional about the factfinding

[unkempt lake]

Exactly

It becomes about the emotions not the facts

Or it blends into each other

Car gets it

[astral haven]

also this is a trap that i see a bunch of folks fall into recently
Knowledgable, experienced, skilled? none of these are indicators of lack of stupidity
and being stupid doesnt mean someone isnt knowledgable, experienced, or skilled
there are some really dumb folks who worked incredibly hard to be experts on their subject, and really smart folks who put in so little effort they are useless

[ashen spindle]

yes and I'm not saying he's right here because idk but just like not every skilled person is smart just dismissing his take due to presentation when he has proven understanding of the topic makes little sense

cybenetics doing good work doesnt mean he cant be wrong but shows it's more likely than not that its his field of expertise

[astral haven]

people throw their brains out the window the moment they hear something that triggers them
he seems triggered
qed

[ashen spindle]

difference between considering he might not view it unbiased vs dismissing it outright

[astral haven]

maybe offline, but when its online and you can just close it and lose nothing, its better to wait for the more thought out and considered followup

[ashen spindle]

sure but I'd make my opinon of that after understanding what his point is not before

[astral haven]

maybe if someones home is immediately in danger of being demolished is that level of anger appropriate, but for a technical argument, no thanks

ive seen too many folks mind f* by considering bs too much

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-radeon-rx-9070-xt-purchased-and-unboxed-ahead-of-launch

[crimson wigeon]

where benchmark

[unkempt lake]

no benchmark

only for sale

[crimson wigeon]

Sad

[vagrant pagoda]

def a lie if no bench

[ashen spindle]

no drivers

[crimson wigeon]

Driver CD

[magic minnow]

Big ass box

[gusty kiln]

chungus

[unkempt lake]

yep

Also comes with the most overkill anti sag bracket ever xD

[magic minnow]

Jesus Christ it’s huge idk if it’s bigger than my 4090

[unkempt lake]

It's beautiful

[sudden imp]

what card is this

[unkempt lake]

Xfx 7900xtx merc

I have the same card lol

[bright briar]

bigooo cardooo

[magic minnow]

little dusty

[languid blaze]

getting wooting 60he or 80he soon

what one should i get?

i maily play minecraft and roblox

and some other random steam games

[bright briar]

do people not like aio pump?

[languid blaze]

idk

i have a 4060 ryzen 5 5500 16 gigs of ram 1tb storage

[languid blaze]

get a white case

[languid blaze]

then less dusty

or clean it

[analog sinew]

[balmy vector]

They’re tasty though

[bright briar]

y

[analog sinew]

is that a meaningful upgrade or was the 4090 ded

[balmy vector]

It’s his little brothers build iirc

[analog sinew]

i love introducing additional failure modes for no reason

[analog sinew]

aah

[magic minnow]

yeh this!

[graceful wedge]

Really worried that my gpu DisplayPort is broken

Thinking it is

I did 😔

Used my other display port and it did the same thing and didn’t turn on

No signal

But if I swapped them to the port that would work, it would turn on right away

This doesn’t seem like a good sign 🤔

Very unfortunate

Do u guys think there’s a chance it’s not a broken port

[graceful wedge]

Hey

Maybe it’s not a broken port if

My pc was rebooted

?

Just got my pc back today so haven’t really installed anything besides like steam and some games

Or updated drivers yet

I’m not sure it doesn’t look broken

[graceful wedge]

It’s hard to tell, I’m just trying to see if there’s a chance that maybe it’s not broken

[halcyon moss]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[graceful wedge]

Yep

[digital cliff]

got your pc back? from where? what's wrong with the displayport

[graceful wedge]

Family member helped me fix it, because bios was corrupted

So had to get everything wiped from pc

[digital cliff]

well those two things have nothing to do with each other 💀 but alright

and what's wrong with the displayport

[graceful wedge]

Used my display port on gpu for monitor 1, it works, used my other display port on another port in the gpu for monitor 2, it doesn’t turn on monitor and says signal off and turns off, but if I swapped it to the port monitor 1 was on, it works, but if I put monitor 1 with monitor 2 port, it doesn’t work? Faulty port?

[halcyon moss]

Have you looked at the display settings

In Windows

[graceful wedge]

I can’t even change my display settings 😠

It’s on the grey mode

Windows isn’t activated yet

The product key

[digital cliff]

I'd just test with one monitor on the second port

if that works then the issue is rather settings, if it doesn't then I guess there's a chance for a busted port but I find that very unlikely

[graceful wedge]

Just ends up saying No signal and goes black

Lights are on the monitor tho

Hopefully it doesn’t end up being a broken port, I’ll be able to still play

Just on 60hz and low res, but it has been like 2 weeks without playing so rip, more time to wait for repair 🧑‍🔧

Pray for me guys 🙏

[halcyon moss]

Nah

[graceful wedge]

Dam

[halcyon moss]

Is it Still under warranty?

[graceful wedge]

Idk, maybe

[halcyon moss]

...

[graceful wedge]

If I got warranty, it should be since i got it in 2024

[halcyon moss]

Talk to your parents..

[graceful wedge]

Little do u know 😂

I know what date it was purchased

And ID transaction but I’m going to test the monitor and port stuff tommarow

Hopefully something good happens overnight

Pc might decide to be nice to me tommarow

[thick elk]

Have the xt version, not a fan of it, it's pretty loud and that anti sag bracket is bad.
What I do in that regard is have a ziptie attaching it to the case from the top, works really well.

[digital cliff]

redneck engineering moment

[thick elk]

Maybe but it does the job and is pretty subtle

[gentle osprey]

Dope

[graceful wedge]

I love ur cable skills

[magic minnow]

That’s clean

[thick elk]

Definitely seen nicer builds, but it's alright.

[rough osprey]

strong ahh noise reduction

[hasty wren]

WHY it keep white plsss guys

[sharp badger]

Read that, change the base layer

[hasty wren]

how can I do can u help me?

[sharp badger]

E.g.

[hasty wren]

I can’t bro idk why

[digital cliff]

bro has signalRGB running

[sharp badger]

Either that or something else that's taking over the RGB

[marsh beacon]

Gyus can I get help?

[hasty wren]

IF i UNINSTALL ALL GOOD?

[digital cliff]

don't need to yell

just turn off the wooting integration in signalRGB and replug the keyboard

[digital cliff]

i don't know, can you?

[hasty wren]

but idk how to use it

[marsh beacon]

Not turn on anymore,i just doing an update and my wifi turn off and my keyboard never back on

it says if it doesn't work unplug and plug back in contact support

[digital cliff]

go to the settings and do a restore

[digital cliff]

then why do you have it 🤨

regardless gotta turn it off

[hasty wren]

idk bro now my ram are black now

[marsh beacon]

Me?

[hasty wren]

how for my keyboard it work thx

[digital cliff]

yes

[sharp badger]

Can go to the website

[marsh beacon]

How can I do that without the keyboard

[sharp badger]

https://wootility.io/

[digital cliff]

on-screen keyboard exists for this reason just so you know 👍

[marsh beacon]

It the same screen

The browser don't find the keyboard

[digital cliff]

go through anyway and go to the help

[marsh beacon]

I just follow the step but still now work

[fair gull]

i have finished my opengl es2 journey on androif for now i believe. api 9 up to 35 compatible... renders nice and fast. even figured out why pixel phones didnt render them correctly... (hint it was MALI gpus assigning shader attributes in reverse order to Adreno GPUs)

fudge me

only left goal which isnt too important would be API 8 compatbility to cover the entire range i possibly could

[ashen spindle]

yeah adreno is one big mess

Or rather mobile gpus in general

Biggest pain for VR is what hardware standalone hmds are using not what power they have lol

[fair gull]

actually

imo adreno made sense with how it assigned the shader data

it was top to bottom as declared in the glsl and vertex then fragment

exactly how you pass it in code when constructing the shader program

MALI just does it backward

so the last decalred one in the frag shader is 0

and the first declared one in vert is N

i wrongly assumed all GPUs to do it like the adreno where first in vert is 0 and last in frag is N

so after implementing a lot of glGetAttribLocation and glGetUniformLocation it worked

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah not saying in that case its wrong but in general compared to amd/nvidia there is so much pain lmao

[fair gull]

i mean im glad they fixed an issue where apparentl you also cant put the MVP matrix as the first operator in the multiplication in the shader

MALI apparently had an issue where you HAD to place it second so it multiplies correctly

im not even sure if my android API8 goal can be easily done.

[analog sinew]

the toolless removal of the top panel on the fractal north is cool

[fair gull]

apparently API8 doesnt have glVertexAttribPointer

[analog sinew]

its fun to peek in on it while the pc is on

[steady sail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1io4a67/an_electrical_engineers_take_on_12vhpwr_and/?rdt=63270

[analog sinew]

its fucked?

[near fox]

Quick question my usbc Port went off what do I do

[steady sail]

nothing RMA

[reef patrol]

https://wooting.io/support

[near fox]

i wrote the support no answer since one week

[reef patrol]

Yes - Technical tickets take a while for an initial response.

[near fox]

i am cooked

[steady sail]

yes

[analog sinew]

yea doesnt sound much different from what buildzoid said