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vagrant pagoda
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Good luck getting a replacement for that part XD

unkempt lake
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https://youtu.be/-_47bWBYutc?si=02CBnZ5RxnvZvQqJ

and here's a video in general where he does a status update

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▶ Play video
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80 to 100 cards a month

vagrant pagoda
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But the titan prototype gn has used smt though board threaded bits

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Would be easy to attach a nice silicone high strand count pigtail to the board

astral haven
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ah ok, you are right, still not the connectors fault tho, its the power circuitry (notice how he never mentions 30 series with (technically worse) connector)

vagrant pagoda
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Idk why they even went to another multiple pin connector

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They should have went to 2 or 4 big pins and sense

astral haven
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watts to weight ratio is bad with larger connectors

vagrant pagoda
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Only for solid pins

astral haven
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its still worse with hollow, just less worse

vagrant pagoda
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We are only talking about 50a

astral haven
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have you seen the size of a 50a dc connector???

vagrant pagoda
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Yeah but they would be harder for the user to fuck up

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Yeah xt60

astral haven
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the 2 options are screw terminals (which would be omega easy to screw up) or gigantic chonkers

vagrant pagoda
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I have a hundred

sudden imp
astral haven
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scalpers this time are actually able to charge the tarrif pricing, not just evening out supply and demand like before

sudden imp
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oh copper aswell

static fog
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Hello my windows key stopped working randomly

astral haven
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ah yes graphics cards are famous for deriving most of their price from common earth metals

undone sun
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try pressing fn+caps lock+windows

sudden imp
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fair point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I assume tariffs would play a factor but most companies would find a way around them

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You're probably right about it being mostly supply issues\

astral haven
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the campaign trail promise was tariff on everyone

vagrant pagoda
astral haven
astral haven
vagrant pagoda
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Exactly

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Common metals only in my $2000 gpu

astral haven
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could use gold as the material for the traces in the pcb, and still wouldnt be more than what nvidia charges for the core

vagrant pagoda
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Yeah

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The real question is what is tsmc's charge

undone sun
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4070 super or 5070? i mean ai is better ofc but is the raw performance as good

astral haven
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#wait for reviews

sharp badger
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We don't know the performance of the 5070

undone sun
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#iwantafoundersedition

sharp badger
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Will probably be something like the 5080/5090 benchmarks compared to the 4080/4090

undone sun
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aww shucks

sharp badger
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But reviews will come later this month & those FE cards are nice

undone sun
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yea ig

sharp badger
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Also with this ''paper'' launch of the 5080/5090 it'll probably be as difficult to get

undone sun
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yea but i can try

reef patrol
rough osprey
sharp badger
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Lol yeah

rough osprey
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no 5080fe drop since last month 😔

undone sun
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yall think this legit

sharp badger
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Yes buy 2 lol

undone sun
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3 seems good icl

undone sun
sharp badger
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Founders edition

undone sun
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ah

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why do we need all these short termes💔

rough osprey
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time

digital cliff
undone sun
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founders edition is not all that💔

rough osprey
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surely it will be widely available soon

steady sail
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Just like the 80/90 cards

sharp badger
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Coming soon™️ to a scalper near you

rough osprey
gentle osprey
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A lot more available than 90s

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For every 90 there’s like 10+ 80s

rough osprey
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there is a drop like every couple hours

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but the prices are uhhhh

steady sail
rough osprey
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maybe thats just their pricing strategy

unkempt lake
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@astral haven ever skimmed the vids?

sharp badger
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Seems like one GPU is available and others are coming soon

unkempt lake
steady sail
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MONKA the gigabyte aero 5080 is 2200€ in Hungary

rough osprey
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💀

steady sail
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999$ msrp btw

unkempt lake
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every single price has been raised

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The msrp cards were "promotional pricing"

steady sail
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Its more then double the msrp xd

unkempt lake
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yes

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PC gaming is doomed lol

steady sail
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I love ngreedia

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I guess time to switch to console xd

lyric hatch
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Just in time for the psn network to go down!

steady sail
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Or i guess im just gonna play older games

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Like whats the point of buying new games when i cant even run them xd

balmy vector
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Time to go back to the wii

unkempt lake
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my ps4 pro has a disk drive 😎

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So does my wii u

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Yes i own a wii u

balmy vector
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Wii u was good

unkempt lake
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it was

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But everythint got ported to switch now

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Except starfox zero which had bad controls anyways

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Wouldnt mind a port with revamped controls

lyric hatch
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Just a PC and a switch kinda guy

unkempt lake
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Which... no longer exist so

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No ps5 needed yay

lyric hatch
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I got an Xbox one for halo what a mistake that was dogekek

unkempt lake
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lmao

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And just went back to halo 3 multiplayer

balmy vector
rough osprey
unkempt lake
lyric hatch
unkempt lake
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Who wants one

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Do you want one @lyric hatch

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I have a spare

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Mango you and i can play the good monster hunter games using pretendo

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🧠

sharp badger
lyric hatch
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Appreciate the offer but I should probably have a good look a my parents place beforehand dogekek

balmy vector
lyric hatch
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Gotta be there somewhere surely COPIUM

unkempt lake
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@balmy vector

balmy vector
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New nintendo moumouDS

unkempt lake
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mou is staring at me rn

steady sail
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Mou wants ur soul

unkempt lake
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what do you think she wants

unkempt lake
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But she had 13 years to take it

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And hasn't

steady sail
balmy vector
unkempt lake
steady sail
balmy vector
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Moumou is obviously not satiated enough

unkempt lake
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She wants the better umbreon

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The one i got wasn't good enough

rough osprey
steady sail
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She wanna be the very best SwitchyHeHe

rough osprey
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still some time for ps5pro prices to drop...

sharp badger
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Yeah so that PS4 is not worth it for exclusives anymore

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Yup or that PS5 Pro GTA6 bundle lol

rough osprey
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just getting a used one probably cheaper

vital glacier
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can anyone help me? I've had a wooting keyboard for under a year and today it won't turn on randomly?

leaden halo
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Hello! Can I bind gamepad on-off to a specific key or key combination within a profile?

gentle osprey
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Then you won’t complain about $2000 GPUs

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Just make more money

steady sail
gentle osprey
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Find another career

spiral island
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How many tflops is the most recent moumou?

balmy vector
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At least 50

sharp badger
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The cost of having a PC for 4+ years isn't that bad though either

balmy vector
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Just dont do the nzxt route

vital glacier
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was a bit worried lol

steady sail
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Cool lol

vital glacier
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is it normal to lose all your profiles though?

steady sail
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@hollow carbon

reef patrol
hollow carbon
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An update will only change the firmware and leave the onboard profiles alone.

On the other hand, a keyboard restore is more thorough as it will reset the firmware, profiles, or any other settings changes to a stable state, which can help if the issue is caused by a certain setting.

marsh pewter
sharp badger
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The great moumou takeover

fickle ore
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im excited about my Geon Raw HE 40g's coming soon

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My conscience is knocking

balmy vector
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Moumou revolution

spiral island
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I have always supported our moumou overlord

pale sigil
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Man i hate Windows so much.... i updated to 24h2 and everything was running bad... d2 i struggled with, 60-90fps low stutter madness..... same with other games.... today i reverted to 23H2 and im back to 180fps on highes, wtf MS, is there no testing?

rough osprey
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weird

pale sigil
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google says im not the only one

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PoS update

spiral island
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Maybe a graphics driver reinstall was needed? That is bizarre

gentle osprey
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yeah F Windows

astral haven
# pale sigil PoS update

reddit reaction when microsoft keeps their legacy compatibility, and keeping it around so that everything functions

astral haven
crimson wigeon
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Hm I did not notice any such regressions.. but I also only boot up Windows for those things that refuse to work outside it

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Wonder if it's something that affects team green more 🤔

astral haven
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24h2 has new graphics driver stuffs, gotta update otherwise pain

fair gull
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i did it

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its ported

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because i stumbled into sony aosp and found the source code for the app so transfering and verifying i did it the same was easy peasy.....

lyric hatch
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I am still on windows 10 boomerChatting

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Once I get around to upgrading my PC ill fresh install 11

balmy vector
reef patrol
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Can't say I've had any issues with 24*

pale sigil
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pretty much did everything you could imagine.

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It only seemed to effect some games

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not all

spiral island
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That’s bananas. Nothing like that on my end, wonder what the root cause is 🤔

unkempt lake
unkempt lake
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Unless you wanted to gamble that issues weren't gonna be a thing

unkempt lake
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Which well they were a thing in many ubisoft titles, path of exile 2, the freedom wars remake and plenty of other games

sharp badger
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Can't say that i've noticed anything different with 24H2

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Other than W11 might be janky sometimes overall

gentle osprey
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One of the windows updates made my camera completely stop working

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Uninstalled a bunch of updates and security updates and nothing fixed it so I reinstalled windows completely

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And then it worked

sharp badger
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Lol just windows things

gentle osprey
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Yeah

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Typical

balmy vector
gusty nexus
unkempt lake
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I explained this to you before

steady sail
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On a note for that i should upgrade my bios dogekek

gusty nexus
steady sail
rough osprey
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kinda want one...

steady sail
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Its yours for 5000$

rough osprey
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worth

steady sail
reef patrol
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I am way way too lazy to do that tonight, but I can definitely do that tomorrow.

sage path
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i just updated my wooting and it is suddenly not working at all cam amyone help me?#

fair gull
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there she is

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XDA thread and all

latent mural
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Does anyone have some good profiles settings for 60he ( Fortnite and valorant)

fair gull
pale sigil
rough osprey
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why is LG so nice

astral haven
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because Life is Good (not actually where their name comes from)

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lucky goldstar

halcyon moss
empty wren
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My dad is like that too

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Buttons are very simple and logical without little training

distant tapir
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My PC is on for the first time! However I have no signal to the display

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Sigh...

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I'll check...

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I am highly suspicious that it might be the display itself and how I am using 2 adapters

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Don't think my motherboard has status leds

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I don't see any lights at all

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I'm mad now...

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I hate PCs weird

unkempt lake
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can you test it with another display @distant tapir

unkempt lake
distant tapir
distant tapir
unkempt lake
distant tapir
unkempt lake
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Also was it bios updated for your 9800x3d

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Did you do bios flashback @distant tapir

distant tapir
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I haven't done anything no

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Can I update it without a display?

unkempt lake
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Yes

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Grab a usb stick and go download the latest bios

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Put it on the usb stick

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You plug it into the orange port that's sureounded with blue

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Press the bios flashback button that's next to the audio ports

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@distant tapir written guide explaining it step by step

crisp granite
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it's rock solid

unkempt lake
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but won't work with a 9800x3d without bios flashback

crisp granite
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crunge

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just buy a 7800x3d

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that's the meta now

distant tapir
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This the right file?

unkempt lake
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3.15 yeah

distant tapir
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It's a ROM file now on the USB stick

unkempt lake
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Good

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Now go plug it into the port i told you to plug it into first

distant tapir
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Plug it in when PC is off?

unkempt lake
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A light should start flashing in the pc

distant tapir
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Ah I have to rename the file? Wtf

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No idea

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Formatted now

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I download the newest one right

unkempt lake
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You have agranite bridge cpu

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You need to use the flasher that goes with your cpu

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Not the most recent

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Phoenix will not work

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@distant tapir

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You have 2 files you need

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The rom and the flasher

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The rom you downloader earlier

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The flasher you need to use the granite ridge one

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ur wrong you're making him use the wrong flasher

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Asrock mobos need 2 files for bios flashback

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no

distant tapir
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Okay I downloaded that one

unkempt lake
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Which one did you pick

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Top or bottom

distant tapir
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Bottom

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It says to hold in the bios button thing for 3 seconds and the system will turn on but it isn't doing that

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Even tried 10 seconds

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The blue one

unkempt lake
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did you use the correct usb slot

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The middle one?

distant tapir
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Yes

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Orange surrounded by blue

dawn pecan
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please bro

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i need help

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anyone

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so

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im building my pc

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rn

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okay my fault

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im building my pc right now and im stuck

unkempt lake
dawn pecan
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i got to the power supply point and connected the motherboard and cpu power

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but now im stuck

unkempt lake
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help stepbro im stuck

dawn pecan
distant tapir
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I turned the PSU off and will wait a few mins before trying again shruge

dawn pecan
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and i also chipped this

unkempt lake
dawn pecan
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instructions on what to do from this point

dawn pecan
unkempt lake
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We don't know what rhe problem is besides

dawn pecan
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i connected the usb 3

unkempt lake
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fucked up a usb header

dawn pecan
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i dtill need to install my case fans and aio

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but idk how to do it

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ye and the manuels been so useless

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it says nothing

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so ive just been trying to find someone to help

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alright

unkempt lake
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i think he just wants someone to tell him

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Step by step

dawn pecan
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i js need help figuring iut how to install the aio and case fans

unkempt lake
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But.. that's what a video guide does

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Look up your model and how to install

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Case fans are just 4 screws and you plug in your fans to the mobo

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Aio, mount your fans to the rad mount the rad to your pc

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mount the bracket to the cpu

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Plug in pump fan 1-2-3 headers

distant tapir
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It's blinking green now

unkempt lake
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Yay

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When it stops blinking it means its done

distant tapir
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It says it restarts automatically when done

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Okay well there's no video signal! It's definitely because of the adapter nonsense

unkempt lake
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especially without any video drivers installed

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also... 2 adapters into each other is really janky xD

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can't you just get 1 adapter with what you need?

distant tapir
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Yes. I'm just impatient. I'll have to go like 2 weeks before I can use the PC at all aiu_cry

unkempt lake
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not like you have a gpu anyways so

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performance aint gonna be great xD

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9800x3d igpu is the same

distant tapir
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Haven't found anyone who sells HDMI to VGA ones

distant tapir
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Retailers with physical stores in my area: Elkjøp, Power, Kjell og Co

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All have a tiny selection

rough osprey
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when we getting uhbr20 displays man

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everyone cheaping out

distant tapir
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What I hate about these converters is that they never specify how high the pixel clock actually can go

unkempt lake
distant tapir
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Ofc

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It's like using Displayport 1,2 with your 4k 240 Hz display

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I'm gonna buy a new cooler

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Did not like the Liquid Freezer 3 fit here. Far too big and it's a hell to deal with the tubes

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Gonna just buy an air cooler like I should have done in the first place

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I can go higher than that!

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Yes

unkempt lake
magic minnow
distant tapir
unkempt lake
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hi res cat videos

distant tapir
unkempt lake
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hi res moumou

distant tapir
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So yeah... Not a great fit

distant tapir
keen steppe
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Building a PC for a friend and need a good AIO, for am5 7600x. Any good recommendations, that are value for money?

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RGB mandatory obv

unkempt lake
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dont put an aio on a 7600x

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it's stupid

keen steppe
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Oh

unkempt lake
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Get an air cooler

keen steppe
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I got one on mine tho...

keen steppe
unkempt lake
keen steppe
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Oh lemme see

unkempt lake
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Assassin 4 for example is beautiful

analog sinew
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blöck

unkempt lake
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If you want looks

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XD

keen steppe
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Hmmm

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Does block come with RGB?

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Do I just slap on RGB fans?

alpine patio
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i have noticed that i am priortising looks a lot for no reason

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wd black is a must for storage lmao

analog sinew
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mmh yes argeebee

alpine patio
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every other ssd has random words plastered everywhere

analog sinew
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who sees their ssd

alpine patio
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my brain

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and it's one cell

analog sinew
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i see

magic minnow
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I think the evo is one of the nicest looking coolers

distant tapir
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Das nice

magic minnow
distant tapir
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And I don't mind spending a little xtra

magic minnow
distant tapir
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I assume you meant the AXP 120-X67 when you said Thermalright

digital cliff
distant tapir
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Well that would not fit

analog sinew
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noctua gang

distant tapir
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I have max height clearance of 70 mm

analog sinew
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pc has to be shit brown

magic minnow
distant tapir
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The noctua one is 70 mm

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I find it scary when there is zero clearance

analog sinew
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extra cooling by touching the side panel

magic minnow
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No mesh on sides?

distant tapir
magic minnow
distant tapir
magic minnow
distant tapir
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Yes

magic minnow
distant tapir
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But there is (should be) enuff clearance for the Noctua one too

analog sinew
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soriamoria

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why is your pfp staring into my soul

distant tapir
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Tak

distant tapir
undone sun
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i need help when i buy dans do i need to look out for something like them being exhaust or something like that? or can i use normal fans and just turn them around and have exhaust and one pulling air inside

analog sinew
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its just the orientation.

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all fans move air in one direction thats it

undone sun
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ok but should i buy special ones fir exhaust?

digital cliff
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yes and no

analog sinew
digital cliff
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there's fans optimized for airflow and fans optimized for pressure

undone sun
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but dont i need dns pulling air out and fans for pulling air in

digital cliff
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fans for pressure you want on heatsinks and fans for airflow somewhere where there's not much obstruction like exhaust

analog sinew
distant tapir
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Holy sh*it the NF-A14x25 G2 fans are xpensive

digital cliff
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but regardless what you do any fan works anywhere

analog sinew
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just pointing different ways

undone sun
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ok thx

magic minnow
digital cliff
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there's just some that are a little better here and some that are little better there

analog sinew
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yeah but

distant tapir
magic minnow
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I’m waiting for the NH-D15 G2 to come out in black

analog sinew
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noctuaa

distant tapir
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Since I'm returning my Liquid Freezer 3 I need to get two fans as exhaust for the top of my case

magic minnow
distant tapir
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It supports 2x 120 mm ones or 2x 140 mm fans

magic minnow
digital cliff
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for exhaust pretty much anything works I guess

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I recently bought an S12B for my only exhaust fan since I figured if I'm buying something for the express purpose I might as well make it the most purposeful one

distant tapir
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I run exhaust at minimum fan speed anyway though

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So usually 20% or so

digital cliff
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the S12B is kinda designed for that

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it's inaudible up to like 60-70% and moves mega air anyway

distant tapir
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The Redux fans are the ugliest ones to the point where it bothers me

digital cliff
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or is it s12a I got

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it comes in all black with the swap corners

magic minnow
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Chroma?

digital cliff
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regardless the all black model

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yeah I dunno why they have a s12b and s12a

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sounds like B should be the next one up from A but it's the other way around apparently

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A is the "next-gen"

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so they started with B like sane people and finished with A dogenek

magic minnow
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lol

distant tapir
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One is called ULN and one is PWM

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What does ULN mean?

digital cliff
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Ultra Low Noise

distant tapir
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Oh so that's the one I want then?

digital cliff
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basically it's just got a resistor in it that makes it run at 7V and spin so slow you could run circles around it

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I have the normal PWM one which is already silent

distant tapir
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Ah, I'll do PWM then

digital cliff
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the PWM goes slow enough if you just put it to like 20% so not sure why the ULN exists catnod

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yeah maybe something like that

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for those that want to have it slow and silent and only have 3-pins left

distant tapir
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I don't like splitters. They make it so messy

digital cliff
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yeah I dislike extra connections and stuff

fair gull
# pale sigil

interesting. seems the opengl works but the randomness doesnt somehow. what phone is this and what android version?

distant tapir
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4 case fans though

leaden kiln
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got splitters with my noctua fans but they were tricky to put away out of the blades

leaden kiln
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understandable

digital cliff
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my case came with a hub in the back so I have all my case fans hooked up to that and just control the one curve then

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AssUs mobo doesn't let me control the fans from the OS and the UEFI control tool is.... anemic, but it works enough I suppose

leaden kiln
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my asus board has a tiny fan built in but I never even bothered looking for its settings in the bios

digital cliff
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yeah dunno about those chipset fans, never really looked at em

distant tapir
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I avoided picking a motherboard with a tiny fan

fair gull
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they come with a few adapters for varying reductions in noise due to the voltage

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i used a few in my networking equipment

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yeah sometimes not possible

distant tapir
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I remember I once foolishly bought Noctua industrial fans for my PC and when I turned the PC on something was wrong and every fan went to 100% speed and my grandfather the floor above heard it (though my door was open)

analog sinew
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dont think sth was wrong

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isnt that how they work

distant tapir
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I messed up something and they stayed at 100% speed. I fixed it later

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Yes but they were at 100% all the time

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Even on desktop

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Unbearable experience

fair gull
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unless its 2 pin without pwm at all

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or sata powered

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true for fanheader ones but youd need to also set it in bios if the bios supports it

ancient cedar
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Oh so if Stem: MX style, it works. I am worried about the size of each keys like control/shift

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So I will be fine with this?

digital cliff
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yeah it won't fit

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the sizes are clearly wrong

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they have a 1.75u shift and not enough 1.25 bottomrow mods

ancient cedar
reef patrol
digital cliff
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you seem to have it figured out 👍

ancient cedar
digital cliff
ancient cedar
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Thank you!

steady sail
reef patrol
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Jesus...

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It goes to show how little consumer interest there is in electronics like these compared to say cars. If something like this had happened to a car model, there would have been a massive recall just in case.

And sure - Cars go road, PC goes office - but a house fire is still something that can spread to surrounding homes.

old marlin
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in cars you would not be allowed to ride so close to your margin to begin with

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even if the cable was easy to plug in etc

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the 600W it is rated at basically is the maximum the plug is specced for

reef patrol
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Good point.

old marlin
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also if "user error" is such a big issue now

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the plug design still is bad

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because "user error" was not nearly as much of a thing

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a decent system would prevent it

reef patrol
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Agreed. You should always design something aimed at end-users to be as idiot proof as possible.

old marlin
#

nvidia specced it to 8.3A

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and roman experienced a casual 20A here

reef patrol
old marlin
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and others chilling at 2A

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pepeThonk he mentioned that he assumed it to be 18AWG

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which would be kinda thin

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next gen will just use NACS or something idk

steady sail
#

Just like what he said nvidia should have put 2 of those connectors on the card

analog sinew
#

why the fuck does it draw power so asymmetrically to begin with

old marlin
#

I'd agree but almost no PSUs support that

steady sail
halcyon moss
old marlin
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requiring 6-8 8 pin plugs

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aka 900-1200 watts

steady sail
#

I mean looking at the comments someone said the card consumed 770w

old marlin
reef patrol
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It's a thermal camera...

halcyon moss
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That's real good resolution for a thermal cam

zealous halo
#

The thermal cameras date is 1970 xD

steady sail
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Soo from now on everyone gonna invest into water cooled cables right?

old marlin
#

yea that is why we are gonna switch to NACS

steady sail
#

With these kind of power draws what nvidia gonna make for the 6000 series MONKA

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800w for a single cable ?

old marlin
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if the 770W are true it is 670W to still be in spec on the PCIe slot

frozen ingot
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they really should rework the power standards for pc hardware going forward

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switch gpus over to 24 or even 48 volt

old marlin
#

nah

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you can stay on 12V

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just don't use a stupid plug

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and respec 8 pin PCIe plugs

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they can handle a hell of a lot more than 150W

frozen ingot
#

hard to make reliable plugs and cables at these sizes for pushing close to a kilowatt over 12 volts apparently

rough osprey
#

lets use

old marlin
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not in official spec

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but they can handle it no problem

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and any 1kw PSU can handle it

marsh glade
#

Just use a wireless GPU, how hard can it be

rough osprey
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or 3 usbc cables

ashen spindle
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Just use 2 EPS rated for 300W each done

old marlin
#

yea

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8 pin PCIe could just be rated at 300W tbh

ashen spindle
#

Yeah but runs into issue of what if you use an older standard cable etc. they used EPS on server cards already with like 300W for one pin

steady sail
#

Or i guess its time to make a separate psu just for nvidia gpu’s

old marlin
zealous halo
old marlin
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unnecessaryjust don't make the new standard stupid

ashen spindle
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Would also get rid of psus using different cable pinouts if you move away from pcie to eps

fair gull
rough osprey
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the 80 is fine tho or

ashen spindle
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

magic minnow
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Or they just sell a GPU hardwired to the PSU joepray

steady sail
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Or just remane RTX to RBMK

halcyon moss
fair gull
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still curious. i tested it in various android emulators

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and it looks like callums phone doesnt do math.random

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cause it renders the particles but doesnt randomize the location and such

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as far as im aware the device emu also just runs the pixel roms

severe phoenix
steady sail
rough osprey
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what kinda psu they got

steady sail
#

Good question

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A very custom made i guess

fair gull
#

idk why peopel think adding a second 16pin sovles this issue tbh

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this seems very much a pcb design or psu issue where pins arent balanced

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5090fe apparently just ties all positive and negatives into 1 plane each

analog sinew
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it's wild the PCB can handle that

digital cliff
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yeah if you perfectly balance everything shouldn't it be 100W per line at max

analog sinew
#

that one plane just fires 600W like its nothin

ashen spindle
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If you had a second one and only draw like 400w over each it would balance it better is the idea

sudden imp
#

There is clearly a very simple solution to this problem. We need to attach the hamster wheel the the gpu and power it using hamster power.

digital cliff
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clearly there's like 2 wires sharing the entire thing almost by themselves

rough osprey
#

do we really need electricity

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cant we power it with friendship

analog sinew
#

completely nuts

digital cliff
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yeah something on the balancing side is fucked it seems

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or I suppose since the card just combines it all of course you have electricity being pulled through the least resistance

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in the video der8auer says it's all combined so yeah any variance in resistance be it for any reason would result in one cable bearing most of the load

ashen spindle
#

Yeah the contact in the card puts it all into two metal rods before it hits the pcb

digital cliff
#

it's really weird that someone like me with a cursory understanding of electricity, in light of these results, can immediately figure out the issue

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how do the people in the million dollar R&D facilities not manage to

rough osprey
#

they wanna be apple so bad

analog sinew
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8pin did the same but it was fine since it didnt pull such an assload of current

nimble arch
#

All for the price of $5000

rough osprey
#

it would just stop working

ashen spindle
#

Nono it would cost 5k and also overheat like the laptops

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And the reply is you’re holding it wrong

rough osprey
#

they device was made to be used in a 0 degree celsius room

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your power is just weird

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get premium electricity

magic minnow
#

I believe them joepray

balmy vector
#

Very reasonable

nimble arch
#

What is this for anyway? thinkies

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So you're asking them to delete all the messages?

fair gull
#

why not ask to get access back

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odd that they wanna make it possible to do exactly that

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get people their accounts back

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from inside discord no less

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have you tried calling your old number

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and see if the person agrees to help

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wut

analog sinew
#

i wanted to remove some dingy ass heatsink from an old mobo for funsies

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mfer drew blood

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actually cut pretty well

reef patrol
marsh glade
#

Tak a-Tak'd

sharp badger
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Tak : 0 , Mobo : 1

rough patrol
#

Is it ok if i run my 4070ti super using 2 8 pins on the 12v high power connector instead of 3 for a bit

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I have the extra psu cable somewhere but i‘ll have to find the box and all that

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Probably at my parents house cause i left all my shit there once

sharp badger
#

Wouldn't it be better to just finnish it properly?

rough patrol
#

Ah yes let me just sit here with a half finished pc for a week while i figure out the cable situation

umbral heron
#

It'll be fine, 4070Ti doesn't even draw 300W, let alone over 500W those 2 8-pins can supply hanaSusSips

sharp badger
#

Was thinking you lived close to your parents or if you have the box at your place

spiral island
rough patrol
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Also god damn something is making my skin all itchy am i developing a dust allergy or something

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My radiator had fur that shit was bad

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I‘ll try it with the 2 and we‘ll see

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Also i figured out why my front panel usb wasnt working, those pins are CRUSHED

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I tried fixing it but one broke off maybe itll still work but i highly doubt it

spiral island
#

The pins on the mobo?

analog sinew
#

what happened to the pc

rough osprey
#

is there a reason nvidia doesnt like pulling power from the pcie port?

#

better signal or sum

reef patrol
#

It's only 75W.

#

At that point you might as well grab everything straight from the PSU, instead of going through the motherboard.

rough osprey
#

75w could make a difference in the cable thing 😄

reef patrol
#

Not really - Because clearly the cables that these GPUs get aren't pulling the load evenly. It isn't an issue of enough power.

halcyon moss
#

It's time Nvidia does it with an external power brick :p

balmy vector
#

Xbox 360 style

reef patrol
#

Nvidia ready stickers on all PSUs 😄

analog sinew
halcyon moss
analog sinew
#

is it? it's over 10%.

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it wont help it much but its something

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but ig pulling more is too complicated for whats it worth

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none of this has to happen if they just make the wire gauge and pins a bit thicker

#

that is what we are discussing yes

reef patrol
#

Yes 😄

stiff path
#

Anyone experience it here?

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That has a 5090

distant tapir
stiff path
#

Same lol

stiff path
rough osprey
#

thats a nice name

stiff path
#

I dunno if somebody has said it

#

But coming from a 14 series cpu with the voltage issues, it feels very similar

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Same architecture just pushing the power

#

Sorry but not sorry, this gen is a grift

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I mean if you have a low 3000 or below then I guess you get the general uplift

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I sincerely hope not, even these AI ‘fake frames’ are controversial

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Im a raw brute force Vram enjoyer

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Imagine if the solution is to lower voltages like the 14th and 13th gen and they get slower dogekek

balmy vector
#

What if the temporal noise was the frames we generated along the way

rough patrol
#

Update: is POSTed

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Awful terrible amounts of rgb tho i gotta find a way to turn that shit off

rough patrol
#

Still need to take some stickers off n shit

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But lookin good so far

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Ty

#

I didnt know how to tell you

distant tapir
#

I'm too ashamed to post my new build its_over

vagrant pagoda
#

No NSFW content here

#

As a frog you should be more cautious of the duck

rough patrol
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Yes i know i just wanted to see if it runs first

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Theres also still some stuff on the fans etc

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I just wanted to see if it runs and wash my hands before i do anything with the peels

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Also still have to put side panels on and peel those

distant tapir
rough patrol
#

4070 ti super

distant tapir
#

Naisu

rough patrol
#

I apologize i fucked up the peel on gpu most of the way

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I can give you like half of it tho

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And the fans

gentle osprey
rough patrol
#

It looks decent and it was the cheapest i could buy

gentle osprey
#

Yeah it’s not bad

vagrant pagoda
#

Why isn't it actually a boat?

analog sinew
#

what gpu is that

gentle osprey
#

4070ti

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Zotac Yacht edition

analog sinew
gentle osprey
#

yes

vagrant pagoda
analog sinew
#

a cause worth sacrificng for

vagrant pagoda
#

Idk if he actually has a yacht, but that's what rich people do right?

fickle ore
#

New microcode made Arrowlake a lot faster?

vagrant pagoda
#

Is it faster than 14900ks?

analog sinew
#

yeah they really broke that dominance

fickle ore
#

Overall performance is top 1. But loses in gaming still

spiral island
#

Belated apology to anyone that I said I had no problem with 24H2 to. I'm still on 23H2 😎

vagrant pagoda
fickle ore
#

just click the link idk

vagrant pagoda
#

I don't speak the language fam

analog sinew
#

it just says "cpu index"

#

no clue what that is

vagrant pagoda
#

Ah

fickle ore
#

average of games + application

vagrant pagoda
#

They don't give each bench separate?

analog sinew
#

they do

vagrant pagoda
#

That's kind of sketch

fickle ore
#

they do on different benchg

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GO SITE

analog sinew
#

the intel cpu did well in handbrake and ciner24

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got shat on in vray n 7 zip

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even in corona10

gentle osprey
analog sinew
#

apparently that makes it good for application idk

#

i would call that even but I'm no reviewer

#

2:2 1 draw xD

vagrant pagoda
distant tapir
fickle ore
#

The thing is, 285k beats Zen 5 9900 NON X3D, So when Intel release their X3D its gonna be tight for gaming

gentle osprey
#

I had to click on page 2 at the bottom

vagrant pagoda
#

It's a side scroll thing on mobile

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So I didn't see it at first

vagrant pagoda
analog sinew
#

ok cool

fickle ore
vagrant pagoda
#

Intel has historically been better with memory bandwidth and latency than zen

ashen spindle
#

they also never specify which resolution they test at so I bet they still do 720p tests for gaming so in actual gaming its still worse

vagrant pagoda
#

Zen has historically had worse memory bandwidth and latency

ashen spindle
#

kitguru and others had already made comparisons and it didnt do that well

vagrant pagoda
#

Which stands to reason zen would scale better with more cache

ashen spindle
#

Leo finally brings the end to the 3 and a half month Intel Core Ultra 200S saga with a review featuring all the latest bug fixes and patches. its been a long journey and now we can finally move onto the motherboard content.

00:00 Intro
01:10 Architectural recap / pricing
07:01 Retesting and hardware
10:33 Cinebench 2024 Multi Core
11:41 Cineben...

▶ Play video
vagrant pagoda
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I mean on zen3 you get more performance frame memory/flck than core oc

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Which is why x3d gave it such a big boost

ashen spindle
fickle ore
vagrant pagoda
#

Just proving how memory starved it was

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DDR5 helped a ton with zen4, but x3d is still in the lead

ashen spindle
#

why is it not fair, its the same price that intel puts the 285 at

fickle ore
#

Anyways good job Intel

ashen spindle
#

and same thread count too

rough patrol
#

Anyone know a good rgb app where i can turn off all rgb effects and then close the app and never reopen it

gusty kiln
#

285k still need expensive cu dimm

vagrant pagoda
#

It's still worse than. 14900 on average though?

gentle osprey
#

Just realized it’s -14C outside rn

vagrant pagoda
fickle ore
vagrant pagoda
fickle ore
#

Still pretty good hehe

vagrant pagoda
#

Granted 14900ks is literally burning itself alive for them frames

rough patrol
fickle ore
#

But just shows how good 14900k was power usage aside

gentle osprey
#

14900ks pulls more watts than a 4090
/s

vagrant pagoda
#

Can you push a 285k to match with equal power?

ashen spindle
#

zen4->zen5 made the cores insanely fast for server, java/javascript gets eaten alive, avx512 is a monster path now and the desktop platfomr is held back by limited memory IOD
RPL->ARL it draws less power and is the same performance or worse, wow

vagrant pagoda
#

I haven't been a Intel user in so long XD

ashen spindle
#

oc on arl is very sad, doesnt really scale well

vagrant pagoda
fickle ore
ashen spindle
#

well its the exact same client IO die so memory couldnt change

vagrant pagoda
vagrant pagoda
fickle ore
#

Nova lake wen

ashen spindle
#

after zen6

gusty kiln
#

When is zen 6

vagrant pagoda
#

Yeah Intel isn't playing catch-up

ashen spindle
#

and I would like to remind you of

For the 16-core 9950X to not be bottlenecked by memory here, it needs DDR5-20000.
for avx512 paths in y-cruncher

vagrant pagoda
#

They have to leapfrog

fickle ore
ashen spindle
#

yes and nova lake will also not have it

vagrant pagoda
fickle ore
#

Yeah so if its beating zen 5 on application side witrhout avx512 tahts impressive?

ashen spindle
#

it doesnt

gusty kiln
vagrant pagoda
rough osprey
#

hope its cl28 too

vagrant pagoda
#

Aka -200C

fickle ore
ashen spindle
#

we wont get dual x3d this gen because they already said it introduces cache choherency issues and not much of a benefit

ashen spindle
fickle ore
#

Oh oke

#

still

vagrant pagoda
#

Though I think the DDR5 and record is only 10000

ashen spindle
#

if you have some workloads that make use of it it looks verty different

ashen spindle
gentle osprey
#

Ryzen just better

gusty kiln
#

Ryzen better everywhere except idle power

ashen spindle
gusty kiln
#

But how does 285k idle?

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Since it's tile base

vagrant pagoda
#

Just it isn't worth the price hike

ashen spindle
#

there was a amd open forum that will have it's Q&A public soon with analysts and thats where they said it

#

I think Ian said that as an example on his streama while ago

ashen spindle
vagrant pagoda
#

Also just watched the new 5090 12v video. I'm so glad Roman got the bad 5090 and had the same issue. Now no one can really use the user error excuse.

ashen spindle
severe phoenix
gusty kiln
fickle ore
ashen spindle
fickle ore
#

I started this INTC AMD war with new set of benches bro

vagrant pagoda
#

Yeah amd has amazing server socs too

fickle ore
ashen spindle
gusty kiln
ashen spindle
#

so nothing big could change

vagrant pagoda
#

Intel has cheaper stuff, but the AMD soc are amazing

fickle ore
vagrant pagoda
#

What kills amd mini severers is the cost of good nics

#

You can get a Intel system that is a little slower but with dual x510s

#

For what amd has with realteks

fickle ore
ashen spindle
#

yeah but read more of the article

#

. For high density logic cells TSMC is well ahead of Samsung and Intel on density, Intel is second, and Samsung is third.

#

and thats mostly what cpus use

vagrant pagoda
gusty kiln
#

7900 non x is pretty nice too

fickle ore
gusty kiln
#

Some people got it to idle at 20w

vagrant pagoda
#

Also first gen TR can be had cheap if you want pcie

ashen spindle
# fickle ore

what tech it uses doesnt matter, for the end result what gets achieved not how it gets achieved

#

performance at the cost of power just puts you back to 14900k lol

#
  • cache isnt shrinking nearly as much anymore and we all know how important caches are for cpus thanks to x3d
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so that being much denser is super important

fickle ore
#

LOL

#

Yea aint gonna be 14900k on Bspd + 18A density

ashen spindle
#

yeah and I explained why that doesnt make much sense when HD libraries are how amd and co make the cpus

#

we'll see it probably in about a year, zen6 if on track should be less than 24months after 5

#

and for 18A we will have laptop chips this year

#

also you forget one imporant part, even if intel node is good, doesnt mean the product is good dogekek

fickle ore
#

yeah it looks like intel will be splti/sold anyway

#

idk why else it would be up 8% today with 0 news

#

or Jacona made it rise

vagrant pagoda
#

Nah

#

Intel is too important to dod these days

#

China hits Taiwan who makes chips for US

gusty kiln
#

And sentiments are so low that a good enough product gets people thinking an intel comeback

#

Intel still owns 88% of mobileye

#
#

If only this had more sata ports

#

Wouldn't have to waste the pcie slot or nvme slot

vagrant pagoda
#

What nic?

#

They make a good 5 port sata to m.2

#

There is an 8 port mini sas one, but I haven't used it

#

But just throw that in the e key

gusty kiln
#

Doesn't say, only 1 2.5g

#

E key can use storage?

vagrant pagoda
#

It's x1 pcie

#

They make a+e sata controllers

gusty kiln
#

Interesting

vagrant pagoda
#

They also make Nics

gusty kiln
#

Cool is about 2gbps

vagrant pagoda
#

But single 2.5 puts it out of what I can use

gusty kiln
#

For 4.0 1x

#

Yeah

vagrant pagoda
#

I need at least a 10 gig plus an x16

#

GPU for Plex

#

I just use my old 4790k rig

gusty kiln
#

^uses intel nics

#

Dual 2.5 and 10g

astral haven
# unkempt lake Didn't see your message xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw
Buildzoid video dropped and pretty much confirmed what i was saying (altho he says the connector is bad because it can be abused which i think is victim blaming)

unkempt lake
reef patrol
#

Oh boy. Another influencer continues the spiral.

#

reaction media!

unkempt lake
astral haven
unkempt lake
#

Oh wait

#

This is a NEW buildzoid video

astral haven
#

yea no shit if you throw 600w through 1 cable, its gonna get hawt

reef patrol
unkempt lake
astral haven
unkempt lake
reef patrol
#

I - know -

astral haven
vagrant pagoda
astral haven
#

ah yea now i remember why i dont watch der8auer, he doesnt go into the cause in the video, hopefully he addresses it next time

vagrant pagoda
#

Well he doesn't know the cause

unkempt lake
#

i still find it insane that nvidia just kinda

#

Doubled down on the 12vhpwr

astral haven
unkempt lake
#

Cost cutting yippee

vagrant pagoda
#

So was it a bad connection, a bad cable or what?

#

We dont know why there was an imbalance

unkempt lake
#

Lack of shunt resistors to evenly distribute the load

vagrant pagoda
#

All buildzoid posted about is that the GPU doesn't have safety for current imbalance.

astral haven
#

which would in the worst case allow the full 500w (not 575w) to go through that 1 pin

tepid hatch
#

when im updating my wooting on wootility is it normally supposed to be black or should there be a progress bar or something?

unkempt lake
#

I'll watch it fully soon

astral haven
# vagrant pagoda Well he doesn't know the cause

der8auer also misstates the power through the cable as 575w and uses that to calculate safety margins
but he doesnt check the power through pcie which nvidia uses (and often overdraws from but shh)

vagrant pagoda
astral haven
#

so you get into a car crash and fly out the front window of your car, and you didnt have your seatbelt on (or in nvidias case you removed the seatbelt)

fickle ore
#

honestly whats up with mbly anyways

#

arent they so far behind waymo

vagrant pagoda
astral haven
#

accidents always happen

unkempt lake
vagrant pagoda
#

That's what we are talking about

unkempt lake
#

🤔

vagrant pagoda
#

Also the entire point of Roman's video is it isn't user error.

astral haven
#

but nvidia removing the guardrails is what we can blame for the issue occurring

fickle ore
#

whos even getting a 5090 realistically anyway

astral haven
#

and resistance imbalances are amplified by current

fickle ore
#

cant find any interest in talking about 4k gpus

stiff path
astral haven
vagrant pagoda
sharp badger
#

4k?