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https://youtu.be/-_47bWBYutc?si=02CBnZ5RxnvZvQqJ
and here's a video in general where he does a status update
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⭕ We are an Amtec...
80 to 100 cards a month
But the titan prototype gn has used smt though board threaded bits
Would be easy to attach a nice silicone high strand count pigtail to the board
ah ok, you are right, still not the connectors fault tho, its the power circuitry (notice how he never mentions 30 series with (technically worse) connector)
Idk why they even went to another multiple pin connector
They should have went to 2 or 4 big pins and sense
watts to weight ratio is bad with larger connectors
Only for solid pins
its still worse with hollow, just less worse
We are only talking about 50a
have you seen the size of a 50a dc connector???
the 2 options are screw terminals (which would be omega easy to screw up) or gigantic chonkers
I have a hundred
With the tariffs aswell and production being so low I would wait a year or two before anyone were to buy these cards
other way around, tariffs arent on yet (apparently) so get em quick
scalpers this time are actually able to charge the tarrif pricing, not just evening out supply and demand like before
nope new tariffs annouced today on steel and aluminum
oh copper aswell
Hello my windows key stopped working randomly
ah yes graphics cards are famous for deriving most of their price from common earth metals
try pressing fn+caps lock+windows
fair point ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I assume tariffs would play a factor but most companies would find a way around them
You're probably right about it being mostly supply issues\
the campaign trail promise was tariff on everyone
Hey keep your lanthanides out for my gaming hardware
normally scalpers can only charge what people are willing to pay now
but with everyone knowing tarrifs are incoming, and the supply wont ease up prior to them, they can also charge the eventual cost of the tariffs
i said common not rare
could use gold as the material for the traces in the pcb, and still wouldnt be more than what nvidia charges for the core
4070 super or 5070? i mean ai is better ofc but is the raw performance as good
#wait for reviews
We don't know the performance of the 5070
#iwantafoundersedition
Will probably be something like the 5080/5090 benchmarks compared to the 4080/4090
aww shucks
But reviews will come later this month & those FE cards are nice
yea ig
Also with this ''paper'' launch of the 5080/5090 it'll probably be as difficult to get
yea but i can try
More like a used napkin launch.

good luck
Lol yeah
no 5080fe drop since last month 😔
Yes buy 2 lol
3 seems good icl
what did you mean by fe
Founders edition
time
more like Figurative Edition
founders edition is not all that💔
surely it will be widely available soon
Just like the 80/90 cards
Coming soon™️ to a scalper near you
80 cards are kinda available
Yeah so no 
maybe thats just their pricing strategy
@astral haven ever skimmed the vids?
@unkempt lake
Seems like one GPU is available and others are coming soon
Didn't see your message xD
the gigabyte aero 5080 is 2200€ in Hungary
💀
999$ msrp btw
Its more then double the msrp xd
Just in time for the psn network to go down!
Or i guess im just gonna play older games
Like whats the point of buying new games when i cant even run them xd
Time to go back to the wii
Wii u was good
it was
But everythint got ported to switch now
Except starfox zero which had bad controls anyways
Wouldnt mind a port with revamped controls
Just a PC and a switch kinda guy
Same but i owned a ps4 pro for exclusives
Which... no longer exist so
No ps5 needed yay
I got an Xbox one for halo what a mistake that was 
i... got one i played halo 5 then i returned it
lmao
And just went back to halo 3 multiplayer
Modded 3ds to complete the trio
gta6 soon...
I have two of those
I lost mine somewhere 
Who wants one
Do you want one @lyric hatch
I have a spare
Mango you and i can play the good monster hunter games using pretendo
🧠
Isn't GTA 6 for PS5?
Appreciate the offer but I should probably have a good look a my parents place beforehand 
This is mine
Gotta be there somewhere surely 
New nintendo moumouDS
mou is staring at me rn
Mou wants ur soul
probably
But she had 13 years to take it
And hasn't
And what if she taking it when u are asleep 
Pokemon cards
SHE HAD BOXES ALREADY
Snacks
Moumou is obviously not satiated enough
i need to go buy more pokemon cards
She wants the better umbreon
The one i got wasn't good enough
ye and xbox
She wanna be the very best 
still some time for ps5pro prices to drop...
Yeah so that PS4 is not worth it for exclusives anymore
Yup or that PS5 Pro GTA6 bundle lol
just getting a used one probably cheaper
can anyone help me? I've had a wooting keyboard for under a year and today it won't turn on randomly?
Hello! Can I bind gamepad on-off to a specific key or key combination within a profile?
U cant
Or find ways to increase your income
Then you won’t complain about $2000 GPUs
Just make more money

Time for a heist
Find another career
How many tflops is the most recent moumou?
At least 50
The cost of having a PC for 4+ years isn't that bad though either
Just dont do the nzxt route
thank you this actually fixed it
was a bit worried lol
Cool lol
is it normal to lose all your profiles though?
@hollow carbon
Factory resetting your keyboard? Yes.
An update will only change the firmware and leave the onboard profiles alone.
On the other hand, a keyboard restore is more thorough as it will reset the firmware, profiles, or any other settings changes to a stable state, which can help if the issue is caused by a certain setting.
moumou is taking over every channel
The great moumou takeover
Moumou revolution
I have always supported our moumou overlord
Man i hate Windows so much.... i updated to 24h2 and everything was running bad... d2 i struggled with, 60-90fps low stutter madness..... same with other games.... today i reverted to 23H2 and im back to 180fps on highes, wtf MS, is there no testing?
weird
Maybe a graphics driver reinstall was needed? That is bizarre
yeah F Windows
reddit reaction when microsoft keeps their legacy compatibility, and keeping it around so that everything functions
also reddit when microsoft updates their api making old things slower but new things faster
Hm I did not notice any such regressions.. but I also only boot up Windows for those things that refuse to work outside it
Wonder if it's something that affects team green more 🤔
24h2 has new graphics driver stuffs, gotta update otherwise pain
i did it
its ported
because i stumbled into sony aosp and found the source code for the app so transfering and verifying i did it the same was easy peasy.....
Weird, nothing performance wise changed for me when i went to 24h2
i did
with DDU
Can't say I've had any issues with 24*
pretty much did everything you could imagine.
It only seemed to effect some games
not all
That’s bananas. Nothing like that on my end, wonder what the root cause is 🤔
I told all of yall about the issues with it a while ago xd
The amd performance improvements had been backported to 23h2 making 24h2... useless
Unless you wanted to gamble that issues weren't gonna be a thing
Based
Which well they were a thing in many ubisoft titles, path of exile 2, the freedom wars remake and plenty of other games
Can't say that i've noticed anything different with 24H2
Other than W11 might be janky sometimes overall
One of the windows updates made my camera completely stop working
Uninstalled a bunch of updates and security updates and nothing fixed it so I reinstalled windows completely
And then it worked

Lol just windows things
Oh i know that, i just have had no problems with 24h2 personally
Same and I saw a perf boost and I gain 200mhz
or you could run 23h2 fully updated and update your chipset drivers...
I explained this to you before
On a note for that i should upgrade my bios 
Yeah probably but nothing broke since the update (if we don't count the keyboard layout that appeared in windows since the last update that I can't remove) 🤷
kinda want one...
Its yours for 5000$
worth
For a sec I tough it was calder in the gif

I am way way too lazy to do that tonight, but I can definitely do that tomorrow.
i just updated my wooting and it is suddenly not working at all cam amyone help me?#
there she is
XDA thread and all
Does anyone have some good profiles settings for 60he ( Fortnite and valorant)
It no work
why is LG so nice
because Life is Good (not actually where their name comes from)
lucky goldstar
discount oscilloscope maker
https://www.ebay.com/itm/204758580821
not even worth the cost of shipping
Buttons supreme
My PC is on for the first time! However I have no signal to the display
Sigh...
I'll check...
I am highly suspicious that it might be the display itself and how I am using 2 adapters
Don't think my motherboard has status leds
I don't see any lights at all
I'm mad now...
I hate PCs 
can you test it with another display @distant tapir
What's the model
No I don't have another display
Asrock B650I
gimme a model
Yes
Grab a usb stick and go download the latest bios
Put it on the usb stick
You plug it into the orange port that's sureounded with blue
Press the bios flashback button that's next to the audio ports
@distant tapir written guide explaining it step by step
but won't work with a 9800x3d without bios flashback
3.15 yeah
It's a ROM file now on the USB stick
Plug it in when PC is off?
A light should start flashing in the pc
Ah I have to rename the file? Wtf
No idea
Formatted now
I download the newest one right
You have agranite bridge cpu
You need to use the flasher that goes with your cpu
Not the most recent
Phoenix will not work
@distant tapir
You have 2 files you need
The rom and the flasher
The rom you downloader earlier
The flasher you need to use the granite ridge one
ur wrong you're making him use the wrong flasher
Asrock mobos need 2 files for bios flashback
no
But rhe second file
Which one did you pick
Top or bottom
Bottom
It says to hold in the bios button thing for 3 seconds and the system will turn on but it isn't doing that
Even tried 10 seconds
The blue one
please bro
i need help
anyone
so
im building my pc
rn
okay my fault
im building my pc right now and im stuck
Ask your stepbro
i got to the power supply point and connected the motherboard and cpu power
but now im stuck
help stepbro im stuck
I turned the PSU off and will wait a few mins before trying again 
and i also chipped this
That's a usb header
instructions on what to do from this point
for usb c right
We don't know what rhe problem is besides
i connected the usb 3
fucked up a usb header
i dtill need to install my case fans and aio
but idk how to do it
ye and the manuels been so useless
it says nothing
so ive just been trying to find someone to help
alright
i js need help figuring iut how to install the aio and case fans
But.. that's what a video guide does
Look up your model and how to install
Case fans are just 4 screws and you plug in your fans to the mobo
Aio, mount your fans to the rad mount the rad to your pc
mount the bracket to the cpu
Plug in pump fan 1-2-3 headers
Oki
It says it restarts automatically when done
Okay well there's no video signal! It's definitely because of the adapter nonsense
yeah no way it will detect a display as active with this
especially without any video drivers installed
also... 2 adapters into each other is really janky xD
can't you just get 1 adapter with what you need?
Yes. I'm just impatient. I'll have to go like 2 weeks before I can use the PC at all 
not like you have a gpu anyways so
performance aint gonna be great xD
@distant tapir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yymkevYwVqQ
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9800x3d igpu is the same
Haven't found anyone who sells HDMI to VGA ones
But does it run Sims 3
Retailers with physical stores in my area: Elkjøp, Power, Kjell og Co
All have a tiny selection
What I hate about these converters is that they never specify how high the pixel clock actually can go
Just return it if it no workies
Ofc
It's like using Displayport 1,2 with your 4k 240 Hz display
I'm gonna buy a new cooler
Did not like the Liquid Freezer 3 fit here. Far too big and it's a hell to deal with the tubes
Gonna just buy an air cooler like I should have done in the first place
I can go higher than that!
Yes
told ya so
What's the point if you don't have a gpu to drive more pixels
Yeah it’s really thick that’s why I didn’t get it personally
Desktop browsing
hi res cat videos
I had to remove one of the fans because the GPU riser was pressing up against it
hi res moumou
So yeah... Not a great fit
Hi-res this
Building a PC for a friend and need a good AIO, for am5 7600x. Any good recommendations, that are value for money?
RGB mandatory obv
no
dont put an aio on a 7600x
it's stupid
Oh
Get an air cooler
I got one on mine tho...
But they so ugly...
There's nice looking ones
Oh lemme see
Assassin 4 for example is beautiful
blöck

i have noticed that i am priortising looks a lot for no reason
wd black is a must for storage lmao
mmh yes argeebee
every other ssd has random words plastered everywhere
who sees their ssd
i see
I think the evo is one of the nicest looking coolers
Das nice
I see people recommend Noctua NH-L12S over it due to avoiding turbulence or something
And I don't mind spending a little xtra
I know Dashi likes noctua a lot
I assume you meant the AXP 120-X67 when you said Thermalright
little gamery for me, I think I like the noctua blackouts the best or something like the be.quiet ones
I used this one for my 7950x3d
Well that would not fit
noctua gang
I have max height clearance of 70 mm
Oh then yeah just get thermalright noctua one
extra cooling by touching the side panel
No mesh on sides?
noe
What about Deepcool AN600
Thermalright one is apparently very slightly better
Enough clearance?
Yes

But there is (should be) enuff clearance for the Noctua one too
Tak
i need help when i buy dans do i need to look out for something like them being exhaust or something like that? or can i use normal fans and just turn them around and have exhaust and one pulling air inside
ok but should i buy special ones fir exhaust?
yes and no
i just said such a thing doesnt exist
there's fans optimized for airflow and fans optimized for pressure
but dont i need dns pulling air out and fans for pulling air in
fans for pressure you want on heatsinks and fans for airflow somewhere where there's not much obstruction like exhaust
yes and they are the same
Holy sh*it the NF-A14x25 G2 fans are xpensive
but regardless what you do any fan works anywhere
just pointing different ways
ok thx
Noctua?
there's just some that are a little better here and some that are little better there
yeah but
Yes
I’m waiting for the NH-D15 G2 to come out in black
noctuaa
Since I'm returning my Liquid Freezer 3 I need to get two fans as exhaust for the top of my case
Yeh very pricey 
It supports 2x 120 mm ones or 2x 140 mm fans
Why not get the arctic p12 or p14
for exhaust pretty much anything works I guess
I recently bought an S12B for my only exhaust fan since I figured if I'm buying something for the express purpose I might as well make it the most purposeful one
Yeah as long as it's quiet
I run exhaust at minimum fan speed anyway though
So usually 20% or so
the S12B is kinda designed for that
it's inaudible up to like 60-70% and moves mega air anyway
Kinda uggy though...
The Redux fans are the ugliest ones to the point where it bothers me
Chroma?
regardless the all black model
yeah I dunno why they have a s12b and s12a
sounds like B should be the next one up from A but it's the other way around apparently
A is the "next-gen"
so they started with B like sane people and finished with A 
lol
It says there are two
One is called ULN and one is PWM
What does ULN mean?
Ultra Low Noise
Oh so that's the one I want then?
basically it's just got a resistor in it that makes it run at 7V and spin so slow you could run circles around it
I have the normal PWM one which is already silent
Ah, I'll do PWM then
the PWM goes slow enough if you just put it to like 20% so not sure why the ULN exists 
yeah maybe something like that
for those that want to have it slow and silent and only have 3-pins left
I don't like splitters. They make it so messy
yeah I dislike extra connections and stuff
interesting. seems the opengl works but the randomness doesnt somehow. what phone is this and what android version?
I only have 1 chassis fan header on my motherboard
4 case fans though
same but only 2 fans for me
got splitters with my noctua fans but they were tricky to put away out of the blades
Yeah I don't like them
understandable
my case came with a hub in the back so I have all my case fans hooked up to that and just control the one curve then
AssUs mobo doesn't let me control the fans from the OS and the UEFI control tool is.... anemic, but it works enough I suppose
my asus board has a tiny fan built in but I never even bothered looking for its settings in the bios
yeah dunno about those chipset fans, never really looked at em
I avoided picking a motherboard with a tiny fan
ULNs exist for embed devices and devices that have no fancurve control
they come with a few adapters for varying reductions in noise due to the voltage
i used a few in my networking equipment
yeah sometimes not possible
I remember I once foolishly bought Noctua industrial fans for my PC and when I turned the PC on something was wrong and every fan went to 100% speed and my grandfather the floor above heard it (though my door was open)
They are PWM
I messed up something and they stayed at 100% speed. I fixed it later
Yes but they were at 100% all the time
Even on desktop
Unbearable experience
unless its 2 pin without pwm at all
or sata powered
true for fanheader ones but youd need to also set it in bios if the bios supports it
Hello!
https://www.keychron.com/products/iso-q1-q2-k2-oem-retro-keycap-set
this keycaps work with the 80He? Thank you
Oh so if Stem: MX style, it works. I am worried about the size of each keys like control/shift
So I will be fine with this?
yeah it won't fit
the sizes are clearly wrong
they have a 1.75u shift and not enough 1.25 bottomrow mods
Whatever that last screenshot is, is not this product?
you seem to have it figured out 👍
Oh indeed
yeah if you find these caps, they would work
Thank you!
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Samples used in this vid...
Jesus...
It goes to show how little consumer interest there is in electronics like these compared to say cars. If something like this had happened to a car model, there would have been a massive recall just in case.
And sure - Cars go road, PC goes office - but a house fire is still something that can spread to surrounding homes.
in cars you would not be allowed to ride so close to your margin to begin with
even if the cable was easy to plug in etc
the 600W it is rated at basically is the maximum the plug is specced for
Good point.
also if "user error" is such a big issue now
the plug design still is bad
because "user error" was not nearly as much of a thing
a decent system would prevent it
Agreed. You should always design something aimed at end-users to be as idiot proof as possible.
btw, Molex specced Microfit (what this plug is based on) to 8.5A per pin
nvidia specced it to 8.3A
and roman experienced a casual 20A here

and others chilling at 2A
he mentioned that he assumed it to be 18AWG
which would be kinda thin
next gen will just use NACS or something idk
Just like what he said nvidia should have put 2 of those connectors on the card
why the fuck does it draw power so asymmetrically to begin with
I'd agree but almost no PSUs support that
"User error"
Bc AI needs power and user error
They'll make m :p
yea and nvidia includes 2 power adapters
requiring 6-8 8 pin plugs
aka 900-1200 watts
I mean looking at the comments someone said the card consumed 770w
yea that is what happens if you run 20A on a cable/plug designed for 8.5A at the highest
damn footage from 1970
It's a thermal camera...
That's real good resolution for a thermal cam
The thermal cameras date is 1970 xD
Soo from now on everyone gonna invest into water cooled cables right?
yea that is why we are gonna switch to NACS
With these kind of power draws what nvidia gonna make for the 6000 series 
800w for a single cable ?
if the 770W are true it is 670W to still be in spec on the PCIe slot
they really should rework the power standards for pc hardware going forward
switch gpus over to 24 or even 48 volt
nah
you can stay on 12V
just don't use a stupid plug
and respec 8 pin PCIe plugs
they can handle a hell of a lot more than 150W
hard to make reliable plugs and cables at these sizes for pushing close to a kilowatt over 12 volts apparently
lets use
3-4 8 pin PCIe are fine for that
not in official spec
but they can handle it no problem
and any 1kw PSU can handle it
Just use a wireless GPU, how hard can it be
or 3 usbc cables
Just use 2 EPS rated for 300W each done
Yeah but runs into issue of what if you use an older standard cable etc. they used EPS on server cards already with like 300W for one pin
Or i guess its time to make a separate psu just for nvidia gpu’s
like already stated
Just a plain power supply cord...
unnecessaryjust don't make the new standard stupid
Pixel 7a and 15
Would also get rid of psus using different cable pinouts if you move away from pcie to eps
hmmm
the 80 is fine tho or
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Or they just sell a GPU hardwired to the PSU 
laptop
Or just remane RTX to RBMK
It works for you, you made it for yourself :p
still curious. i tested it in various android emulators
and it looks like callums phone doesnt do math.random
cause it renders the particles but doesnt randomize the location and such
as far as im aware the device emu also just runs the pixel roms
16pin current is severely uneven.
https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/1888860091744739476
Quoting Beyond FPS (@beyond_fps)
5090 has severe load distribution issues .... yes these are celsius. Yes, over 150c.
what kinda psu they got
idk why peopel think adding a second 16pin sovles this issue tbh
this seems very much a pcb design or psu issue where pins arent balanced
5090fe apparently just ties all positive and negatives into 1 plane each
it's wild the PCB can handle that
yeah if you perfectly balance everything shouldn't it be 100W per line at max
that one plane just fires 600W like its nothin
If you had a second one and only draw like 400w over each it would balance it better is the idea
There is clearly a very simple solution to this problem. We need to attach the hamster wheel the the gpu and power it using hamster power.
clearly there's like 2 wires sharing the entire thing almost by themselves
yup thats what roman had. Two wires with >15A on em
completely nuts
yeah something on the balancing side is fucked it seems
or I suppose since the card just combines it all of course you have electricity being pulled through the least resistance
in the video der8auer says it's all combined so yeah any variance in resistance be it for any reason would result in one cable bearing most of the load
Yeah the contact in the card puts it all into two metal rods before it hits the pcb
it's really weird that someone like me with a cursory understanding of electricity, in light of these results, can immediately figure out the issue
how do the people in the million dollar R&D facilities not manage to
they wanna be apple so bad
8pin did the same but it was fine since it didnt pull such an assload of current
Apple would make a GPU that doesn't do this
All for the price of $5000
it would just stop working
Nono it would cost 5k and also overheat like the laptops
And the reply is you’re holding it wrong
they device was made to be used in a 0 degree celsius room
your power is just weird
get premium electricity
I believe them 
Very reasonable
why not ask to get access back
odd that they wanna make it possible to do exactly that
get people their accounts back
from inside discord no less
have you tried calling your old number
and see if the person agrees to help
wut
i wanted to remove some dingy ass heatsink from an old mobo for funsies
mfer drew blood
actually cut pretty well

Tak a-Tak'd
Tak : 0 , Mobo : 1
Is it ok if i run my 4070ti super using 2 8 pins on the 12v high power connector instead of 3 for a bit
I have the extra psu cable somewhere but i‘ll have to find the box and all that
Probably at my parents house cause i left all my shit there once

Wouldn't it be better to just finnish it properly?
Ah yes let me just sit here with a half finished pc for a week while i figure out the cable situation
It'll be fine, 4070Ti doesn't even draw 300W, let alone over 500W those 2 8-pins can supply 
Was thinking you lived close to your parents or if you have the box at your place
Honestly if I could use those I would
Also god damn something is making my skin all itchy am i developing a dust allergy or something
My radiator had fur that shit was bad
I‘ll try it with the 2 and we‘ll see
Also i figured out why my front panel usb wasnt working, those pins are CRUSHED
I tried fixing it but one broke off maybe itll still work but i highly doubt it
The pins on the mobo?
what happened to the pc
is there a reason nvidia doesnt like pulling power from the pcie port?
better signal or sum
It's only 75W.
At that point you might as well grab everything straight from the PSU, instead of going through the motherboard.
75w could make a difference in the cable thing 😄
Not really - Because clearly the cables that these GPUs get aren't pulling the load evenly. It isn't an issue of enough power.
It's time Nvidia does it with an external power brick :p
Xbox 360 style
Nvidia ready stickers on all PSUs 😄

I had that one in my hands the other day.. Geez that was a monster
is it? it's over 10%.
it wont help it much but its something
but ig pulling more is too complicated for whats it worth
none of this has to happen if they just make the wire gauge and pins a bit thicker
that is what we are discussing yes
Yes 😄
Experienced what?
Same lol
Heated cables as per de bauer
thats a nice name
I dunno if somebody has said it
But coming from a 14 series cpu with the voltage issues, it feels very similar
Same architecture just pushing the power
Sorry but not sorry, this gen is a grift
I mean if you have a low 3000 or below then I guess you get the general uplift
I sincerely hope not, even these AI ‘fake frames’ are controversial
Im a raw brute force Vram enjoyer
Imagine if the solution is to lower voltages like the 14th and 13th gen and they get slower 
What if the temporal noise was the frames we generated along the way
Update: is POSTed
Awful terrible amounts of rgb tho i gotta find a way to turn that shit off
Or just used 2 8pin eps XD
Still need to take some stickers off n shit
But lookin good so far
Ty
I didnt know how to tell you
I'm too ashamed to post my new build 
^
Yes i know i just wanted to see if it runs first
Theres also still some stuff on the fans etc
I just wanted to see if it runs and wash my hands before i do anything with the peels
Also still have to put side panels on and peel those
Wat gpu is dat
4070 ti super
Naisu
I apologize i fucked up the peel on gpu most of the way
I can give you like half of it tho
And the fans
@sonic adder
The Zotac Yacht
It looks decent and it was the cheapest i could buy
Yeah it’s not bad
Why isn't it actually a boat?
what gpu is that
is it really calledthat
yes
Yes all proceeds went towards Jensen's yacht
a cause worth sacrificng for
Idk if he actually has a yacht, but that's what rich people do right?
New microcode made Arrowlake a lot faster?
Is it faster than 14900ks?
yeah they really broke that dominance
Overall performance is top 1. But loses in gaming still
Belated apology to anyone that I said I had no problem with 24H2 to. I'm still on 23H2 😎
What benchmark is that?
just click the link idk
I don't speak the language fam
Ah
They don't give each bench separate?
they do
That's kind of sketch
the intel cpu did well in handbrake and ciner24
got shat on in vray n 7 zip
even in corona10
apparently that makes it good for application idk
i would call that even but I'm no reviewer
2:2 1 draw xD
Don't get that on mobile
Happi I went for 9800X3D 
The thing is, 285k beats Zen 5 9900 NON X3D, So when Intel release their X3D its gonna be tight for gaming
If Intel scales with cache
ok cool
I dont see why not but Quin will pull his crystal soon
Intel has historically been better with memory bandwidth and latency than zen
they also never specify which resolution they test at so I bet they still do 720p tests for gaming so in actual gaming its still worse
Zen has historically had worse memory bandwidth and latency
kitguru and others had already made comparisons and it didnt do that well
Which stands to reason zen would scale better with more cache
Leo finally brings the end to the 3 and a half month Intel Core Ultra 200S saga with a review featuring all the latest bug fixes and patches. its been a long journey and now we can finally move onto the motherboard content.
00:00 Intro
01:10 Architectural recap / pricing
07:01 Retesting and hardware
10:33 Cinebench 2024 Multi Core
11:41 Cineben...
I mean on zen3 you get more performance frame memory/flck than core oc
Which is why x3d gave it such a big boost
except it still loses to the 9950 at the same price
9950 lol :p not fair
Just proving how memory starved it was
DDR5 helped a ton with zen4, but x3d is still in the lead
why is it not fair, its the same price that intel puts the 285 at
Anyways good job Intel
and same thread count too
Anyone know a good rgb app where i can turn off all rgb effects and then close the app and never reopen it
285k still need expensive cu dimm
It's still worse than. 14900 on average though?
Just realized it’s -14C outside rn
wire cutter
Depends if the hardware supports saving settings
This is sorted by GAMING score (yellow)
Yeah that's what I ment
Still pretty good hehe
Granted 14900ks is literally burning itself alive for them frames
I assume not since its all fans and shit

But just shows how good 14900k was power usage aside
14900ks pulls more watts than a 4090
/s
Can you push a 285k to match with equal power?
zen4->zen5 made the cores insanely fast for server, java/javascript gets eaten alive, avx512 is a monster path now and the desktop platfomr is held back by limited memory IOD
RPL->ARL it draws less power and is the same performance or worse, wow
I haven't been a Intel user in so long XD
oc on arl is very sad, doesnt really scale well
Yeah 3-4 was great for memory, but 4-5 stagnated memory again
Yea ARL matches performance of 14900ks at like 2/3 power? So win-win but for power user next gen is where it at, esp. if they make X3D 😄
well its the exact same client IO die so memory couldnt change
Very likely x3d isn't worth it on arrow lake
That's what stagnate means XD
after zen6
When is zen 6
Yeah Intel isn't playing catch-up
and I would like to remind you of
For the 16-core 9950X to not be bottlenecked by memory here, it needs DDR5-20000.
for avx512 paths in y-cruncher
They have to leapfrog
ARL 285k doesnt even have AVX512 does it?
yes and nova lake will also not have it
Why I'm still hopeful for dual x3d or x3d tr
Yeah so if its beating zen 5 on application side witrhout avx512 tahts impressive?
it doesnt
where can i buy that ram
X3d tr sounds so expensive
The moon
hope its cl28 too
Aka -200C
I mean without AVX512 its pretty fkin close (green)
we wont get dual x3d this gen because they already said it introduces cache choherency issues and not much of a benefit
none of that uses avx512
Though I think the DDR5 and record is only 10000
I mean it works on epyc
if you have some workloads that make use of it it looks verty different
different io die and also no zen5 epyc with x3d
Ryzen just better
thats old mcu/bios??
Ryzen better everywhere except idle power
can you spot where they avx512 cpus are? xD
Yeah but I've never seen anything that says there is a technical reason.
Just it isn't worth the price hike
there was a amd open forum that will have it's Q&A public soon with analysts and thats where they said it
I think Ian said that as an example on his streama while ago
quit good
Also just watched the new 5090 12v video. I'm so glad Roman got the bad 5090 and had the same issue. Now no one can really use the user error excuse.
not latency sensitive or whatever fucks gaming performance, retesting doesnt change anything here
Guess the diy nas /homelab would still use intel
linking old benches == disqualified!
or the APUs that are monolithic
I started this INTC AMD war with new set of benches bro
Yeah amd has amazing server socs too
Yeah its noticeable 😄
except intel confirmed those are the result they also saw and what they expected
8700g idles low?
so nothing big could change
Intel has cheaper stuff, but the AMD soc are amazing
https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-services/techinsights/352972-iedm-2025-tsmc-2nm-process-disclosure-how-does-it-measure-up/ Seems like A18 > TSM 2nm
What kills amd mini severers is the cost of good nics
You can get a Intel system that is a little slower but with dual x510s
For what amd has with realteks
yeah but read more of the article
. For high density logic cells TSMC is well ahead of Samsung and Intel on density, Intel is second, and Samsung is third.
and thats mostly what cpus use
3950xs are real cheap
7900 non x is pretty nice too
Some people got it to idle at 20w
Also first gen TR can be had cheap if you want pcie
what tech it uses doesnt matter, for the end result what gets achieved not how it gets achieved
performance at the cost of power just puts you back to 14900k lol
- cache isnt shrinking nearly as much anymore and we all know how important caches are for cpus thanks to x3d
so that being much denser is super important
On the next sentence it says Intel 18A is the leader
LOL
Yea aint gonna be 14900k on Bspd + 18A density
yeah and I explained why that doesnt make much sense when HD libraries are how amd and co make the cpus
we'll see it probably in about a year, zen6 if on track should be less than 24months after 5
and for 18A we will have laptop chips this year
also you forget one imporant part, even if intel node is good, doesnt mean the product is good 
yeah it looks like intel will be splti/sold anyway
idk why else it would be up 8% today with 0 news
or Jacona made it rise
Nah
Intel is too important to dod these days
China hits Taiwan who makes chips for US
Apparently because of Mobileye
And sentiments are so low that a good enough product gets people thinking an intel comeback
Intel still owns 88% of mobileye
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If only this had more sata ports
Wouldn't have to waste the pcie slot or nvme slot
What nic?
They make a good 5 port sata to m.2
There is an 8 port mini sas one, but I haven't used it
But just throw that in the e key
Interesting
They also make Nics
Cool is about 2gbps
But single 2.5 puts it out of what I can use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw
Buildzoid video dropped and pretty much confirmed what i was saying (altho he says the connector is bad because it can be abused which i think is victim blaming)
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Have you seen derbauer's vid today
I wouldn't call buildzoid an "influencer"
saw it happened but only after the bz, and didnt figure i needed to, is there anything bz doesnt cover?
Cable temperature
Oh wait
This is a NEW buildzoid video
yea no shit if you throw 600w through 1 cable, its gonna get hawt
Just finding it amusing how this video keeps being passed around with another layer of reaction.
150c is uh... kinda abnornal
literally look at the thumbnail, its a circuit analysis
literally why i watch buildzoid
I - know -
not abnormal throwing what 40a through 16awg?
That's a really poor lightbulb
ah yea now i remember why i dont watch der8auer, he doesnt go into the cause in the video, hopefully he addresses it next time
Well he doesn't know the cause
well buildzoid was able to figure it out from der8auers video and pcb pics online, im sure he could have figured it out
Cost cutting yippee
So was it a bad connection, a bad cable or what?
We dont know why there was an imbalance
Lack of shunt resistors to evenly distribute the load
All buildzoid posted about is that the GPU doesn't have safety for current imbalance.
thats not quite right, its that the shunt resistors dont limit the power on any more granular level than the entire power connector
which would in the worst case allow the full 500w (not 575w) to go through that 1 pin
when im updating my wooting on wootility is it normally supposed to be black or should there be a progress bar or something?
I skimmed the new vid xD
I'll watch it fully soon
der8auer also misstates the power through the cable as 575w and uses that to calculate safety margins
but he doesnt check the power through pcie which nvidia uses (and often overdraws from but shh)
Buildzoid has nothing about what caused the issue, just that new cards lack protections against the issue.
so you get into a car crash and fly out the front window of your car, and you didnt have your seatbelt on (or in nvidias case you removed the seatbelt)
That or the news that 285k doesnt suck as bad, or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64E9O1Gv99o JD Vance saying USG will ensure powerful AI systems will be built in US with American made chips
honestly whats up with mbly anyways
arent they so far behind waymo
Yeah but the cause of the accident is what you want to know
accidents always happen
That's what we are talking about
🤔
Also the entire point of Roman's video is it isn't user error.
while it was more common than i anticipated, there are still millions of cards and only thousands of accidents, which you would expect from electronics generally
but nvidia removing the guardrails is what we can blame for the issue occurring
whos even getting a 5090 realistically anyway
and resistance imbalances are amplified by current
cant find any interest in talking about 4k gpus
Some guy is getting two
eh people will be able to get em for 3k in a month and 2.5k in 2 months, itll be fiiiine
Have you tried not being poor?
4k?



