🔌│tech

[marsh glade]

Saved by the bell

[vagrant pagoda]

Should have flipped it XD

[ashen spindle]

90% chance you wouldve missed it and got put onto backorder anyway

[marsh glade]

Possibly yea

Was fun though, took me back to my early 2021 days of trying to buy my current GPU.... Good times... NOT

[rough osprey]

someone should tell nvidia about preorders

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/not-borat-talk-conversation-gif-4797024

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean flipping doesn't mean scalping

[marsh glade]

They should take a page from the obviously superior business: Wooting BV

[vagrant pagoda]

Just sell it for a what you paid for it to someone you know

[sudden imp]

Batches?

[analog sinew]

true

[magic minnow]

We got Mr next gen up in here

[marsh glade]

Always available to purchase, delivery timeframe just depends on batch

[magic minnow]

[vagrant pagoda]

That's just preorder

[analog sinew]

i wonder what this weird sigmup page they have is doing but ig it doesnt matter

[vagrant pagoda]

The issue with gous is Nvidia never actually tells AIB when and how many gpus they get

[cedar fog]

the amount of posts ive seen online with retailers having like 10 total

or none

seems like there wasn't much supply of them in the first place

[gusty kiln]

Aib 5080s are like 1400+ euro in the eu

Rip 999

[vagrant pagoda]

Some microcenters got tons

[rough osprey]

https://www.e-tec.at/de/shop/produkt/99534/msi-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-suprim-soc.html

lol

[reef patrol]

[gusty kiln]

Website blocked for me

[marsh glade]

Off to #🐸│memes with that nonsense

[magic minnow]

Mmmmmm idk if I should have gotten the NH-D15 G2 instead of the original

[rough osprey]

reasonable pricing

[fair gull]

i thought you were watching here as well https://marketplace.nvidia.com/nl-nl/consumer/graphics-cards/?locale=nl-nl&page=1&limit=12&category=GPU&gpu=RTX 5090&gpu_filter=RTX 4090~3,RTX 4080 SUPER~9,RTX 4080~8,RTX 4070 Ti~7,RTX 4070 SUPER~4,RTX 4070~6,RTX 4060 Ti~18,RTX 4060~6,RTX 4050~2,RTX 3090 Ti~1,RTX 5080~1,RTX 5090~2,RTX 3080 Ti~4,RTX 3080~5,RTX 3070 Ti~2,RTX 3070~10,RTX 3060 Ti~3,RTX 3060~9,RTX 3050~5,RTX 2080 SUPER~1,RTX 2070 SUPER~1,RTX 2060~2,GTX 1660~2,GTX 1650 Ti~3,GTX 1650~3

[bold coyote]

[balmy vector]

Big link

[magic minnow]

This is the last link you click before you lose your entire identity

[bold coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-warrior-kung-fu-panda-rtx-gif-19233196

[rough osprey]

Grafische kaarten 🔥

[balmy vector]

Can’t believe you leaked the new kung fu panda game

[gusty kiln]

[pale sigil]

[gusty kiln]

Hwu overclocked the 5080 with the high end msi model and it's just barely match the 4090 at 4k

Uses like 40w now power

[analog sinew]

surprised it even matched I

[gusty kiln]

But that msi model is like pretty close to 4090 msrp

So you're basically just buying a 16gb 4090

[analog sinew]

ouch

[vagrant pagoda]

For like 1c better lol

[spiral island]

What's this in F

[vagrant pagoda]

Like 1

The noise is slightly better with the g2

Which lets you run the fans slightly faster at the same noise level

So technically you can get better temps

But unless you are running igpu, your GPU will be louder

[gentle osprey]

No 5090 but I got snow

With how many 5080s there are I could’ve bought 20 of em

[fair gull]

didnt wanna figure out how the grap their weird filter works in the url

nor why it has to be in the url this way

[vagrant pagoda]

But yeah unless you want a media center PC with a passive psu and igpu, the g2 isn't worth it

A liquid freezer 3 240 is cheaper and better at anything other than minimum fan speed noise

And what ever flavor of thermalright is out this week is way way way cheaper and will be lower noise than your gpu

This is coming from someone who owns a g2, and everything else noctua makes XD

[spiral island]

If you had a 5090 you could melt all that right quick 😢

[gentle osprey]

paired with a 14900k

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean it's bette than a 3090ti

People forget how much more efficient the 4090 was

[gentle osprey]

One thing I will say is it's nice that Nvidia cards hold their value lol

[vagrant pagoda]

4090s had a higher stock power, but AIB limit was 550w

Seems with 5090 Nvidia is keeping AIB locked down like 4090

So while FE vs FE the 5090 is higher, highend 3090ti were brutal

[gentle osprey]

at this rate ima make money buying a 5090 and selling my 4090 vs keeping it lol

[stray jacinth]

Although I guess the 5080 is basically the 4080 super duper

[stray jacinth]

LOL wtf

People are crazy

[gentle osprey]

[marsh glade]

[cunning charm]

they just as crazy in the motorcycle world lol. some 2006 motorcycles and people want to sell them for like 6k 🤣

[stray jacinth]

[gentle osprey]

Reminds me of my old job at an auction company and we sold an old 1960s Stratocaster for like $38k

[cunning charm]

or people post 2016 motorcycles for 15k when the new one is 17k 🤣

[vagrant pagoda]

Yep

When I got my dr650 it was like that

[gentle osprey]

When you think of gaming compared to other hobbies

its actually cheap af

[vagrant pagoda]

10 year old bike with 5k of shit on it for 2k over msrp

[gentle osprey]

lol

[cunning charm]

yeppp like make it make sense ITS USED!!!! 🤣

[cunning charm]

yeah somewhat lol

[gentle osprey]

maybe not "cheap af" lol but rather cheap comparatively

[cunning charm]

in a way yeah. like what u spend yes. but i think its still equal in the used vs new comparison

like look at people selling 4090’s over 2k

[gentle osprey]

Yeah its really just cause of the scarcity of these recent series

[cunning charm]

yeah true

cf plate finally cleared customs lol

🙌🏽

[spiral island]

Your board is about to get so hard

For what, 80HE?

[cunning charm]

😂😂

yes 80he

[spiral island]

Nice

[cunning charm]

everything else got delivered already

[spiral island]

Not your mint opal 👀

[gentle osprey]

Been enjoying my cf plate with TtC poms

[spiral island]

I'm impressed you stuck with it. I got scared off after a couple weeks and went back to PC.

[cunning charm]

🙌🏽

[cunning charm]

didnt order it yet. still debating. bc i wanna see how the cf plate looks with the keycaps lol

might turn around and order the amber keycaps 🤣

[spiral island]

Oh right you're using clear caps, right?

[cunning charm]

clear teal yeah

[spiral island]

Yeah. That's gonna look amazing over the CF

[cunning charm]

this rgb on them looks 😍😍

[spiral island]

RGB is gonna tone way down, hope you expect that

[cunning charm]

thats fine i dont even have it that bright lol

it was bright in that picture bc i had just put it on lol. but after turning light off in room to play, i had to turn the rgb down bc it was like a flashlight in my face

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/eevee-eevee-wow-eevee-happy-gif-20429806

[fresh flower]

Does wooting 2 he support HID lamp array to control the rgb leds trough lets say windows dynamic lighting?

[wispy delta]

These better 😉

[crimson wigeon]

No lamp arrays... yet

[open berry]

I'm looking for a 75% PCB with Hall Effect technology (HE). Does anyone know where I could find such a PCB or have any recommendations for a custom project?

I’m planning to use it for my own keyboard build. Any help would be much appreciated!

[gentle osprey]

Damn really? Lol

[spiral island]

It was a bit much for me. Felt like I had to swap to my gentler 60HE at night to not wake the other poor mammals in my house.

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/IERjPCjnVnI?si=3N3P1ZrTAAF8fAg-

[indigo leaf]

Does anyone know a popular multi-stream plugin that most use for OBS

[reef patrol]

I'll believe it if I see non-influencers confirm.

[astral haven]

most use an external service

[reef patrol]

Restream?

[indigo leaf]

Thank you, as I am currently doing research on streaming platforms and plugins for them

[gentle osprey]

yeah Im waiting for others to share, thought I'd share tho

[reef patrol]

Given the paper launch and Nvidia well knowing exactly what reviews would be like, I can't in good conscience take the word of any influencer who received samples.

This sudden shift in narrative is just a little TOO convenient.

OMG 5080 suddenly goated with the cheese?

[gentle osprey]

Haha I definitely feel you

right and then 5080 stock is decent while 90s are abyssmal

[marsh glade]

Goat cheese?

[gentle osprey]

goat cheese is good

[astral haven]

it would be a huge surprise if a gpu which was much more efficient than other units on the same node wasnt overclocked as hard out of the box -_-

[gentle osprey]

Nvidia simply forgot

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-painting-bob-ross-paint-gif-4952931

[wheat plume]

Yeh
But desktop mode is X still

The only solution I found was the enable Full System vsync and that introduced input lag

[zealous halo]

I've never seen a single FE card being available, they where "Comming Soon" for 20m and then straight went to "Out of Stock" ^^

[fair gull]

its called bots

[zealous halo]

I know but damn, its sad for such a big company.

[steady sail]

AI bought all of it

[zealous halo]

I guess so

[gentle osprey]

DeepSeek R1 has all the 5090s

[cunning charm]

we must find this deepseek and bring him to justice

😂😂

[marsh glade]

Is this DeepSeek in the room with you now?

[sudden nebula]

is it possible to factory reset uwu keypad?

[marsh glade]

Yes, hold the top right and bottom right button while plugging the device in and then perform a factory reset via Wootility

(this is the same for all our keyboards)

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean it's the first Blackwell card so it's likely AI snatched up all the 90s

Tons of people will dump 2k+ for 32gb or vram these days

[ashen spindle]

doesnt change that stock for it was a joke

[spiral island]

If the bots require GPUs to run, and the bots are acquiring the GPUs does that mean... they're time traveling? 😨

[zealous halo]

The 5080s stock was the same paper stock as the 5090 from the feeling.

At least for the FE

[unkempt lake]

I agree

I like goat cheese

And well

Cheese in general

[spiral island]

Goat cheese is as good as its name implies

[vagrant pagoda]

What source do you have for that

No one has the number that Nvidia actually shipped

[gentle osprey]

same same

cheese enjoyer

[ashen spindle]

the stores themselves saying they had more 80 than 90s in stock?

[unkempt lake]

Agreed

The whole ah yes magically the 5080 is an oc beast the next day after we put out a review calling it meh

And now ah yes it's worth it if you overclock it

[vagrant pagoda]

Compare the 5090 to the l40

[vagrant pagoda]

And you'll see why they sell

[gentle osprey]

this was for US Micro Centers

[ashen spindle]

its not news that the 5080 has some decent overclocking gains compared to others

tpu and others had that day one

[unkempt lake]

Influencers are already putting out vids saying the card is worth it for overclocking

[ashen spindle]

keep in mind decent doesnt mean it suddenly is better than a 4090

[unkempt lake]

Overclocking is such a variable thing

[gentle osprey]

yeah even Jay says that in his video

[unkempt lake]

I don't consider it a thing you can sell a product on

[gentle osprey]

tbf

[spiral island]

Silicon lottery

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[unkempt lake]

Could get one that crashes after barely any changes yep

[ashen spindle]

this isnt perfect scaling but its better than anyone expected tbf

[cursive summit]

5080 > 4090, it's been proven

[fickle ore]

why do u ppl care if 5090/5080 was in stock bc u werent gonna buy it anyway

[vagrant pagoda]

6000 ada and l40 are 10 grand. Granted they have 48gb, but that's the next step up over 24gb, so the 5090 with 32gb is a steal

If your model can fit in 32gb it's golden

[unkempt lake]

What are you on about

[ashen spindle]

we know why they sell, that doesnt change anything about the 5090 having less stock than the 5080 lol

[astral haven]

in retrospect it shouldnt be a surprice considering the early high efficiency
id bet all the efficiency gains go out the window with this oc

[ashen spindle]

the 4090 sold more than the 4080 so thats nothing new

[vagrant pagoda]

How do you know the shipped less 509ps

[broken moat]

Troll bait

[ashen spindle]

because we have the numbers here

[vagrant pagoda]

There is no proof of how many they actually shipped

[astral haven]

more just trolling not really bait

[vagrant pagoda]

That's scraping data from a retailer

[ashen spindle]

EVERYONE is saying it, aibs, supply chain people, retail stores, online venfors

[broken moat]

I mean my local Best Buy only got 10 5090s I know someone who works there

[vagrant pagoda]

And who sells the most of them nvidia

[ashen spindle]

why do you think this is how stores showed it

[gentle osprey]

yeah these are official numbers from MC

[ashen spindle]

if nvidia does big deals selling them as l50 or whatever I do not care

[astral haven]

to be fair nvidia couldnt have predicted that such a miserable uplift would be met with such hype

[ashen spindle]

this entire discussion does not include deals that arent made via public retailers

[gentle osprey]

yep

[ashen spindle]

they could have easily expected that people would be more willing to get the best of the best rather than the 4080super-refresh

be it for gaming or ai or whatever

[vagrant pagoda]

Did Nvidia not sell fe cards directly for the launch

[gentle osprey]

No

but MC had FE cards

surprisingly

[ashen spindle]

they link to the stores that sell them in your region

so mc, or nbb or ldlc or proshop

or w/e else

[marsh glade]

I read that as lidl

[gentle osprey]

MC funny too,
MC: "No Camping" - Allows Camping
Also MC: "No FE Cards" - Almost only FE 5090s

[marsh glade]

And when I realized that you did not in fact suggest that the Lidl had 5090s, well, suffice to say...

[ashen spindle]

well maybe ldlc is the french lidl I dont know xD

[analog rose]

Hi, sorry if this is the wrong channel. Any recommendations for a wireless numpad?

[lyric hatch]

Well we got 5080s listed but no 5090s here in NZ

[gentle osprey]

tryna sell that snake oil

[lyric hatch]

Not that we ever get FE cards either so all AIB

[gentle osprey]

overclock it bro, itll be almost a 4090

[gusty kiln]

$1300 4090 with 8gb less vram

[spiral island]

That 1 triggers me, don't make it look more like a 7 than you have to 😣

Or is it a 7? 🤷

[broken moat]

Turing you have confused me

[spiral island]

Dunno if that's 19 or 79

[broken moat]

19

[raw prawn]

But that’s a long top

[spiral island]

Very!

[gentle osprey]

thats a 79

for 5080s

[marsh glade]

Cross your 7's people

[lyric hatch]

I think I'm going pass on these ($2700 is about $1530 USD)

[gentle osprey]

I do personally

[lofty pivot]

I wonder if it’ll even be hard to get in Korea. The gpu market here always seem not as crazy

[spiral island]

And Zs and 0s!

[gentle osprey]

that I don't do

just my 7s

[spiral island]

And while we're improving ourselves, learn a phonetic alphabet 😤

If I'm writing a serial number or something I cross anything I can for clarity.

Anyway, sorry for the tangent

[lofty pivot]

Take it a $tep further. cro$$ your $ a$ well

I hope that help$

[gentle osprey]

much better, thanks sno

https://tenor.com/view/i-can-see-clearly-now-gif-4338022760107143449

[gusty nexus]

That's the price of a 4090 in France

[lyric hatch]

I'm broke anyway after buying new phone 💸

[lofty pivot]

You mean thank$ $no

[reef patrol]

Take it a dollartep further?

[gentle osprey]

Damn, my bad, thank$ $no

[balmy vector]

What a polite correction, thank$ $no

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-all-chris-turner-i-dont-like-you-all-i-hate-everyone-here-i-dont-like-you-people-gif-25643129

[bright briar]

what phone ddid you end up getting?

[lyric hatch]

Got an s25 ultra they threw too many discounts at me to say no

[bright briar]

damnnnnnn

[wheat plume]

How??? The only discount I have on the website is the one to get 256Gb for the same price as the 128gb model

[cunning charm]

they gave him a free plastic bag too

usually helps make my choice for me 😂

[wheat plume]

LOL

[unkempt lake]

Carrier discounts

[lofty pivot]

Hopper is in New Zealand. If you shave 2 sheep they give you 10% extra discount

[lyric hatch]

Depends on your region I guess I got it through the Samsung app

[lofty pivot]

They call that the sheep activation

[unkempt lake]

guys im an idiot

I freed 150gb of space on the steam deck

To install spiderman

But then realized it says ssd required

[whole axle]

Anyone know when reviewers will get 5070/ti?

[unkempt lake]

I freed space on my sd card

[bright briar]

oop

[spiral island]

Huh, that's the first I've heard of a game demanding being installed on the ssd

[unkempt lake]

New games

[lyric hatch]

10% off when through the app, signed up for pre-reg, stacked another code from somewhere and they txt me a code for being a "loyal customer" which ended up being about $550 off (USD)

[unkempt lake]

Pretty common now

[lyric hatch]

Also doubled my storage from 256 to 512

[spiral island]

I don't bother firing up anything too demanding on my deck anymore, good to know.

[lyric hatch]

This was before trade in (in NZD)

[halcyon moss]

Same, got it for less than €800

[lofty pivot]

this year I think I’ll finally upgrade phone maybe

[halcyon moss]

€762 to be more precise

[lofty pivot]

I haven’t done it since the updates stopped offering anything new a few years back

Nowadays feel like only reason to upgrade phone is when the software starts to actually have issues

[halcyon moss]

There. Are. Other. Places. That. Sell. Phones.

[latent mural]

Me who buys refurbished phones 👍

[halcyon moss]

Now imagine that line with clap hands between every word

[ashen spindle]

lel

[latent mural]

I can recommend that somehow

[halcyon moss]

But we all know that Lana doesn't read

[spiral island]

That's a good chart, though the price should have been adjusted for inflation 😕

Also damning

[ashen spindle]

eh inflation matters if you look at like 980 maybe

not for performance or recent gens

[lofty pivot]

Is 80 series that popular? I always guessed most folks buy 70ti/super instead and if they ball then they go the 90

[astral haven]

80 is more popular than 70ti or 70s

but its less popular than base 70 or 60

[lofty pivot]

That makes sense since those versions come out later I guess

[steady sail]

i mean gaming coffes are a thing with those gpu's

[lofty pivot]

Yeah I meant more as in once the alternatives are out though

The steam chart id assume is going to be heavily influenced by release dates if you’re going by total cards

[astral haven]

so would you change your mind if more 70s were being added to the chart each month than 70tis and supers?

[lofty pivot]

you mean 80s?

I was asking regarding 80 vs 70ti/s

[vagrant pagoda]

60 sells the most as its in loads of pre built

[astral haven]

sure

[lofty pivot]

Yeah that’s what I’d assume too

[vagrant pagoda]

4060 is the top you can get in-store at Walmart and office depot

[lofty pivot]

They’re more regular joe priced cards. I know friends that went for that despite me telling them to spend the tad extra for a 4070 or 4060ti because it crossed a price barrier for them

[vagrant pagoda]

Though my local Walmart has x3d 7900xt machine

[astral haven]

yea even tho the us is doing insanely well for inflation compared to the rest of the world, its still pain

[vagrant pagoda]

But that is new and very abnormal

The high-end desktops and laptops 3 months ago only had 4060

[wheat plume]

I don't want carrier locked phones
Hate that shit so much

[astral haven]

you do know that most places sell unlocked phones right?

[vagrant pagoda]

Idk how Walmart keeps employees from stealing 2k+ desktop lol

[astral haven]

cameras

and control over their paychecks

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean that still doesn't stop them from stealing other shit

[astral haven]

the computers are in special locations usually, and inventoried often

[vagrant pagoda]

these are locked under the computers on the floor

[astral haven]

often enough that the tapes havent been overwritten since the last one

[vagrant pagoda]

It's the new "gamer zone" thing they are rolling out

[astral haven]

ah idk about a new thing

[vagrant pagoda]

Idk why my store got it, we in nowherevil

[astral haven]

but id guess the locks are unlockable by a manager

[vagrant pagoda]

But they have a 7800x3d-7900xt machine

And a 7600+7800xt machine

The 7600 machine I could see maybe selling

But I can't imagine there is a market for a 2000 machine here

They don't even stock OLED TVs here

[steady sail]

i just want a great GPU

[halcyon moss]

Thankfully carrier locking isn't a thing here in nl.

[vagrant pagoda]

Get a 5080 at msrp

[wheat plume]

...really??? Even if you buy the phone at the physical carrier shop?

What about carrier bloatware?

[steady sail]

im not paying 1400 euro for a gpu that is that bad

[vagrant pagoda]

999 is MSRP

And that is the same as the 4080S

It's better in every way vs a 4080s

[steady sail]

in the US maybe

not in Hungary

[astral haven]

it hasnt launched for you yet, yall have to add a few months to release dates

[steady sail]

it is for a price of 1400 euro

and thats the cheapest

[astral haven]

thats us import bs, wait for it to come natively in the country

unless thats including 40% taxes in which case get rekt

[vagrant pagoda]

How much is a 4080s

[steady sail]

27% vat

[gusty kiln]

Now to see where the 9070xt ends up performance wise

[steady sail]

im gonna wait for the 9070

[astral haven]

9070 is gonna be cheaper but its also slower

[steady sail]

its not that i fucking care

[astral haven]

?

[vagrant pagoda]

You either care about max frames or frames per dollar

[astral haven]

if you just want an amd gpu thats fine, but if you werent in the market for a 1k gpu, dont trash talk the zoomy bois that are expensive

[steady sail]

so u can just pay 1k for a gpu out of pocket

[astral haven]

correct, i have been saving up 2 years and ill decide if that goes to a new vr headset (standalone) , headset+ gpu, or just gpu

[gusty kiln]

Think your 3090 is still fine in 2025

[astral haven]

not for vr

[gusty kiln]

Buh PC VR iz ded

[astral haven]

i cant max out hla

and i might just upgrade gpu alone and keep current headset and old games

[halcyon moss]

I didn't buy it at a carrier. I bought it at a shop that does bundle deals with a new contract.
But it's just a Samsung phone

[gusty kiln]

So 5090?

[astral haven]

cant afford it and headset, but maybe can by the time the samsung xr releases

was more thinking whatever middle ground that nvidia releases between 5090 and 80 if i also get a headset

[gusty kiln]

I hoping for a mid tier vr after the os is released

Samsung vr is definitely in the 2000+ range

Companies that will focus only on the hardware and not the software

[astral haven]

well yea, im expecting vision pro pricing

[gusty kiln]

700-1000 range for those

[astral haven]

im not compromising on display tho

gotta be > 4k per eye

(by pixel count, 3840x3552 is fine)

[steady sail]

i never said i want a gpu thats 1k

[astral haven]

so ignore the gpus that are that price?

[steady sail]

soo 90% of the cards

[astral haven]

name a single generation that released slower cards first?

[steady sail]

we dont even know the specs for sure

[astral haven]

heck theyve already been announced, altho amd hasnt announced pricing yet

amd hasnt started on the new gen yet, but you can just look at 7900xtx and know its worse than that

[steady sail]

im not gonna belive in rummors for a card spec

[astral haven]

ok? so why are you joining the discussion now? amd already said everythings a rumor until end of march

[gusty kiln]

Intel earnings 👀

[cursive summit]

When?

I'm interested if Intel is going to rebound

[astral haven]

half an hour right?

[cursive summit]

They're prolly going to record another loss quarter

That's.. 2nd or 3rd in a row?

Maybe they can give updates on Foundry progress though

[gusty kiln]

They did cut prices on xeon 6 recently

Some people say they might split up intel

Though I honestly would like a 16 e-core cpu for an efficient server

[cursive summit]

Get a Zen-C product?

They come with what most people would call proper small cores

[astral haven]

amd is not efficient unless you go laptop chips

without chipsets

amd chipsets are pain

[cursive summit]

Ah yeah AMD's EPYC now have C cores too

[gusty kiln]

If you want performance, you almost always go Epyc, but efficiency still goes to intel

[cursive summit]

You're running a server, there's efficiency in servers?

You get what performs the best

[pale sigil]

There can be

[gusty kiln]

Home server yeah

[pale sigil]

XD

Still a server XD

[gusty kiln]

You're not going to have 100% up time with a home server

[astral haven]

even at work i dont work with a single server with more than 16 cores, and we are mostly virtualized

[gusty kiln]

So efficiency is nice

[pale sigil]

You sure?

[unkempt lake]

My steam deck sd card died

Rip sweet prince

[pale sigil]

What brand

[unkempt lake]

Sandisk

[gusty kiln]

I mean unless you're hosting for a lot of other people

[gusty kiln]

Sandick

[unkempt lake]

I have had the same 1tb cards in my 2 switches for years

Same model too

[pale sigil]

Thought so

The steam deck is aggressive with SD cards.

[astral haven]

youll never get 100% uptime unless you have multiple isps, especially in the us

[pale sigil]

But tbh SanDisk is that cheap I don't mind replacing every so often for not important things.

[pale sigil]

When you say uptime?

Do you mean just being on or usage

[unkempt lake]

@pale sigil a few months ago it'd randomly unmount itself

Then today it just went poof

Windows doesn't see it

[astral haven]

accessible

[unkempt lake]

Steam deck sees it but i get errors when formatting it

[gusty kiln]

Uptime for me is just not being idle

[astral haven]

oh you mean usage?

[unkempt lake]

@pale sigil have you had sd cards die too in the deck?

[gusty kiln]

For the efficiency argument, I want an efficient cpu because a home server might be idle for hours at a time. Unless you got have home camera security.

[astral haven]

well you dont actually need efficiency then

you just need low idle

[gusty kiln]

I would like both but yeah

[astral haven]

my 9900k is vastly less efficient than my 5950x but it idled 10-20w lower

[pale sigil]

Not yet

[gusty kiln]

Yeah, that's why intel is still preferred for at small home server

That's where e core cpu comes in

Also quicksync

[unkempt lake]

Ok

Sandisk's rma

Was

Really easy

Its done already lol

[analog sinew]

👍

[gusty kiln]

Intel earnings not looking good, but after hours action is confusing

[wheat plume]

Copilot Key is just Win+Shift+F23

[fickle ore]

they beat expectations and its rock bottom price with 0 sentiment so its pretty expected

[spiral island]

I knew I had this set up for a reason

[wheat plume]

XXDD

[gusty kiln]

Guidance is pretty yikes

[analog sinew]

good

so i can never press it

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/HMMIxFEIlHY

Why arent all smartwatches using e-ink displays?

the battery life gains would be crazy cause when its displaying the time it only needs to update once a minute

[minor citrus]

most smartwatches don't just show the time

[wheat plume]

Yeah, but when thats all they are doing they could drop to updating just once a minute :P

[minor citrus]

yeah, LTPO made 1Hz possible

[spiral island]

Sure but they still use power to keep the display on. Rosie's point is that e-ink uses 0 power to keep a static image up.

While we're wishing, I want more R&D put into e-ink monitors so I can work w/ happy eyes. I know there's one company working on them, but it's early days.

[lyric hatch]

Garmin has MIP displays which is kind of like an inbetween

[spiral island]

Never heard of this, will look into it

🤷 But I don't want to read on emissive

[lyric hatch]

Yeah they don't look the best but the readability in direct sunlight and battery savings are nice

[spiral island]

Sure but I can't bring my library with me

I have lots of reference books that are 1000+ pages each, nice to have on hand ideally.

And I can't write code on a book (well, not very effectively)

Books are great, I agree

[lyric hatch]

I do have a collection of books that I haven't read

[spiral island]

That's what retirement is for, I'm told 😌

[minor citrus]

that's the m/billionaire mindset! books as decoration

[spiral island]

Gotta delete that, hate seeing that nerd's face

[ashen spindle]

almost a year ago xD

[ashen spindle]

so @fickle ore hows that intel future looking falcon shores cancelled, clearwater forest delayed by 6 months

[fickle ore]

idk im whatever just waiting for 18A, it'll bounce when trump tariffs and mag7 switch over

[analog sinew]

🚀

[magic minnow]

did you get 5080/

?

[whole axle]

Best motherboard for 9800x3d?

[ashen spindle]

the cheapest that has all the ports you need

[magic minnow]

I just use a B650

[whole axle]

Do I need pcie 5 for the gpu?

[ashen spindle]

no

[whole axle]

And pcie5 for the ssd

[ashen spindle]

no

[whole axle]

Gotcha

Is there a specific brand that works better

Or performs better?

[ashen spindle]

performance is all the same really

[gusty kiln]

asrock usually best value

[gentle osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[whole axle]

?

[gentle osprey]

Oops forgot to add it

[whole axle]

Blank lol

[gentle osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GZFyQP

[whole axle]

Gigabyte was really bad no?

I heard they ruined performance or sum

[magic minnow]

MSI needs to hurry up and release their mini itx

[magic minnow]

I use one and it runs perfect

[ashen spindle]

every brand is fine for AM5 boards

[gentle osprey]

All the bad stuff you heard about gigabyte was from years ago

[ashen spindle]

if you dont do overclocking it doesnt matter what you get

[whole axle]

What’s the point of the 800 series if it’s basically just the 600 series

Like no performance uplift right

[magic minnow]

Thunderbolt no?

Or really fast usb speed I think

[ashen spindle]

thunderbolt/some pcie lanes but mostly because board vendors want refreshes to sell more

[gusty kiln]

a lot of nice features that won't give you more fps

[magic minnow]

I just like a bunch of usb ports

[gusty kiln]

like pcie bifurcation is pretty rare on cheaper boards

[ashen spindle]

usually boards only matter for two things, IO so usb ports, pcie lane count etc. and overclocking features

if you got all the ssd/usb etc. slots you need and dont OC then just take whatever fits the bill

[gusty kiln]

Asrock B650 livemixer is the best value board atm

[magic minnow]

if only MSI released this for AM5

4xM.2 slots

[whole axle]

Ok so 990 pro, Op18k mouse, wooting 60he, 9800x3d. B650 will be fine for that?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[whole axle]

OK cool

These are scams no?

[gentle osprey]

Could get a Crucial P3 Plus 2Tb instead of Samsung 990 Pro

[whole axle]

Any performance difference?

[gentle osprey]

I mean the crucial is slower but you’re not gonna notice it

[whole axle]

Kk

[magic minnow]

We got people in here who can feel 8k polling don’t forget

[whole axle]

lol

Idk if I don’t feel the performance difference I’ll save the money

If I can I’ll pay extra

That’s how I see it

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-feel-it-droop-droopy-eyes-gif-8991026

[cunning charm]

i went western digital

[gentle osprey]

lol yeah idk why they’re listed so low

Should be around $100-150

For a decent b650 mobo

[cunning charm]

100-150? for a mobo ?

[gentle osprey]

Yeah unless you want all the fancy shit

Or overclock

[cunning charm]

ahh gotcha gotcha

i have bunch of usb 10gb port 😂😂

[whole axle]

Those are new x870 💀

[cunning charm]

like 10

[ashen spindle]

yeah those listings seem weird, might be some amazon listing thats just false or something

b650 starts around 100 or so for most boards

[whole axle]

Asus good?

[ashen spindle]

sure

[cunning charm]

i have an asus mobo

i like it. gave me all the usb ports i could possibly need. still have my previous msi mobo just sitting there in box lol

[gentle osprey]

Oh I didn’t even notice XD was assuming B650

Yeah idk why those are so low

[whole axle]

I’m on gigabyte rn and the bios is terrible

So I just want a reliable good bios good performance board lol

[cunning charm]

u east or west coast

[whole axle]

East

Also for ram is the best 6000 cl28?

[magic minnow]

I downgraded from my Asus to a gigabyte

[whole axle]

Any reason?

[magic minnow]

Wanted a smaller form factor

[whole axle]

Gotcha

[ashen spindle]

6000 is fine, cl 28/30/32/36 will all be the same really, x3d cpus dont scale with ram that much

[cunning charm]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-VC-WIFI-II/Overview

i have that sitting in box if u want it

[whole axle]

Is 6000 optimal?

[ashen spindle]

yes

basically every chip supports 6000 so its a simple enable expo and forget about it setting

[whole axle]

I’m getting AMD

[cunning charm]

ahh gotcha

[gusty kiln]

cl28 might be a bit tough though

cl30 is easier

[whole axle]

Ok I just saw some people saying 6400 and 8000 now lol

[minor zealot]

Is this a hardware only tech or can i ask a software related question

[gentle osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b650-pg-lightning-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813162077

[ashen spindle]

it often works but isnt guaranteed so might need you to manually set timings etc if you get unlucky

[gentle osprey]

Iirc this one is pretty good

[ashen spindle]

asrock has some good cheap b650 options yeah

the hdv, the pg lighting or pg riptide are all quite good for the price range

[whole axle]

Asrock aka nzxt

[gusty kiln]

Other way around

[whole axle]

Or flip flopped

[gentle osprey]

lol yeah

[gusty kiln]

You should not buy anything more expensive than the b650e taichi lite

[whole axle]

So PG lightning, 6000 cl30, 9800x3d

Good?

[gusty kiln]

But I think it's sold out at most places

Yeah that's fine

[gentle osprey]

It is

[whole axle]

And this cooler is what I was gonna get

[ashen spindle]

yup thermalright is good and cheap

[gusty kiln]

Shame that is end game mobo for 99% of am5 users

[gentle osprey]

Yeah that one is nice

[minor zealot]

Can i ask a software related tech question in here?

[gusty kiln]

Even a 14900k could run ez on that vrm

Just ask

[whole axle]

Should I get Corsair or gskill or are those random brands fine

[ashen spindle]

they are all fine

[gusty kiln]

Just get whatever looks good to you

[minor zealot]

So i stopped playing TFT when riot introduced RIOT VANGUARD to league, i know completely nothing about this kind of stuff but the fear mongering and horror stories of it bricking ppl's pc's, it making your pc more vulnerable to hackers and it suspiciously having to run 24/7 on your pc even when ur not playing or have the game opened made me quit but i miss the game and think to myself, they have MILLIONS of ppl playing it daily can it really be that bad?
i also heard about the anti cheat is gonna stop being kernel level and only run when u are playing the game.
Should i wait untill they roll this change out or am i fine to just go ahead and reinstall league?
https://www.reddit.com/r/riotgames/comments/1gxhfmh/the_future_of_riot_vanguard_and_kernel_level/?rdt=37392

[whole axle]

Whatever people who know more say is Good is what’s good to me

[minor zealot]

Mb for the copy paste

[gusty kiln]

I've been playing tft this while time

Haven't notice anything funky with vanguard

[cunning charm]

lol i have corsair but they do get pricey lol

[gentle osprey]

Most stuff is marketing and unless you’re overclocking, you don’t need half the stuff they tryna sell

[cunning charm]

facts

[gusty kiln]

Gskill is the most popular

[minor zealot]

Yea league, tft and val have millions of players but you also have ppl saying it can brick ur system or make it more vulnerable

[ashen spindle]

so tl;dr it is very invasive because in theory malicious actors could use it for nefarious things, so it depends on how much you trust riot and all that. the change out of the kernel wont happen for many months at the least

[gusty kiln]

proceed at your own risk

[whole axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCWZzP

Ok so final build. Good?

GPU is placeholder

Idk what I should get yet

[gusty kiln]

5070ti is probably just barely faster than 4070 ti super

[gentle osprey]

Not a huge fan of the H5 flow but not against it either , is that the one that had better thermals tho?

[minor zealot]

I mean i have stopped playing for over a year but ppl speculate it might happen near october since thats when windows is gonna enforce the change

[whole axle]

Yes I just bought the 2024 refreshed version. Much improved

[minor zealot]

Thanks for the replies, ill do some more research on it and see what i can find

[ashen spindle]

we dont know when/if windows changes it, they made some roadmap but its not final yet

[gentle osprey]

Yeah that one’s fine

[ashen spindle]

because even the current plan could take a longer time if they find more issues on the way etc.

[sudden imp]

Intel gets all the fun ITX boards

[magic minnow]

Literally I wonder why

[minor zealot]

Ah i see, my main issue is it having the possibility of bricking my system/making it more vulnerable, i already played league so if they wanted to do fucky shit they didnt need vanguard to do it

[minor zealot]

Fair

[cunning charm]

i just stay away from anything nzxt

[gentle osprey]

Yeah not a big fan after their recent scam or whatever but

[cunning charm]

had bad luck with their aio

[whole axle]

All aio are bad

[cunning charm]

2 of them just went up in smoke from turning the pc on after installing them

[whole axle]

Air is better

[cunning charm]

my lian li aio is doing a beautiful job

[gentle osprey]

I have never had bad luck with AIOs (yet)

[whole axle]

Also cannot find a b650e taichi lite anywhere 💀💀

So nvm on that

[magic minnow]

Knock on wood

[gentle osprey]

Used DeepCool, NZXT, Lian Li, Corsair AIOs and never had a leak or anything

[gentle osprey]

Right lol

I’m not against Air at all tho

[cunning charm]

lian li is working beautiful for me so far lol the nzxt are the ones that fried for me.

[gentle osprey]

AIOs are overpriced

Sometimes

[gentle osprey]

Yeah that’s gonna be hard to find

If you want a slightly fancier looking mobo for $50 then can look at the b650 TUF and MSI Tomahawk

But the PG Lightning should be solid

And those ASUS prime boards can be good too

[magic minnow]

Same I swapped over to air, I think I have a peerless assassin right now, but ordered a Noctua Nh-d15

[cunning charm]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813162130?srsltid=AfmBOoq6_Io4stE-X7jWqc5HN8Ys2CAWAKoXkUWwKc_SFb2byF13pUpM

what about that

[gentle osprey]

Yeah the pro rs is good

Just dunno if they want mATX

So I avoided

[magic minnow]

Matx the goat

[gusty kiln]

thermalright making AIO for $50-60

[gentle osprey]

Yeah ^

Why I corrected myself to “sometimes” lol

[whole axle]

I don’t care for looks other than I’d rather have all black. Size doesn’t matter either as long as it works. And again brand doesn’t matter unless it affects performance

[gentle osprey]

And the Artic freezers are cheap imo

In a good way

[cunning charm]

they have different versions there under that link

[magic minnow]

Yeah the liquid freezer 3 is like 90$ right now

And I think that’s one of the best cost to performance

AIO

[gentle osprey]

Yeah it performs really well

and good value

[magic minnow]

I almost got one but it fits weird in my case so just went with the noctua

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/57X2FygcqLE?si=QVJezkKGQhQ6vgif

[sudden imp]

They also have a good track record for being pro active about issues with the products

[gentle osprey]

here just watch this and decide on a board tbh

has most of the ones we've said

[whole axle]

Oh I did see the Msi one

[gentle osprey]

and then just compare to current pricing, in case any sales or price drops have happened

[whole axle]

Looked interesting

[latent mural]

How can I cancel a order That didnt ship

I really wanted a 80he

'But its to much 💀

nvm cancelled

[vagrant pagoda]

And it's a 360 which is the crazy part

The 240 is 40 bucks

[gentle osprey]

Know what 50 series reminds me of

new iPhones

not much different from the last

[cunning charm]

for normal use its not bad. but for gaming the thermalright wasnt doing enough for me. thats what my pc came with.

[vagrant pagoda]

Wut

Ain't no way you are capping a 360 rad

Like not even close

[cunning charm]

under load cpu was hittin 75-85

switched to lian li and now cpu doesnt go over 65

[vagrant pagoda]

Bad mount on the old one

[gentle osprey]

Yea, I was gonna say maybe bad contact

[cunning charm]

it was on there just fine

[gentle osprey]

damn

bad unit idk

[vagrant pagoda]

A 360 will do 300+w with normal fans

[cunning charm]

the store from jawa i got it from even told me id prob need a better aio if i was gonna overclock or play for too long

[vagrant pagoda]

And it comes with high airflow fans

So either a bad mount or someone set the fans/pump slow

[cunning charm]

nah that was after i set the fans to high

[vagrant pagoda]

Then it had a bad mount

[cunning charm]

the guy had experience with them

he said they ok for normal use. but extended gaming the cpu will get hot

[vagrant pagoda]

The prism is loud as hell at 100% but due to coming with high rpm fans it's literally one of the best 360 AIO you can get full tilt

[cunning charm]

now with lian li i can game comfortably

[vagrant pagoda]

What your saying doesn't agree with literally any testing of the prism

[cunning charm]

ok if u say so

[vagrant pagoda]

Everyone else has the opposite problem as you

[cunning charm]

i didnt have prism

[vagrant pagoda]

Then you don't have the cooler we are talking about

The prism is the $50 360 aio

[cunning charm]

i just know my experience with thermalright as a brand

[vagrant pagoda]

$40 for the 240

I mean they tons of coolers

[cunning charm]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-V3-Cooler-Cooling-LGA1150/dp/B0CDPKSTWP/ref=asc_df_B0CDPKSTWP?mcid=457460eef3ff3836b99ce1fd228d066b&hvocijid=16475161752705699814-B0CDPKSTWP-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16475161752705699814&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004379&hvtargid=pla-2281435178298&th=1

thats the one i had

[vagrant pagoda]

And have literally made some of the highest end coolers ever made

[vagrant pagoda]

That comes with shitty 1500rpm argb fans so it isn't comparable to the cooler that was being discussed

[cunning charm]

so i just had the small bootleg version lol

temu version

[astral haven]

It liiiiiives

About a sentence a minute

[gentle osprey]

Meaning of Life is 42

[astral haven]

One day I'll ask and it'll get the right answer, but for now I'll just let it run to see what it says

[vapid ruin]

Mmmm, Hopefully it's the q1 or q2 version. Q4 needs like 400gb of ram

[astral haven]

Its the full q4

You can see the disk usage, that's why I said Optane

[vapid ruin]

😭

[astral haven]

lovely

4 seconds per token ended up
a bit strange since the disk usage never hit 100 and it only used 2GB/s of bandwidth but this MOE probably helped with that

[vapid ruin]

The moe is pretty small yeah

What did it generat

E?

[astral haven]

nothing out of the ordinary for these llms

[vapid ruin]

Yeah, seems about right.

[vagrant pagoda]

On CPU?

[vagrant pagoda]

What is average access time?

Also I got tracking in the v100s

[astral haven]

not really seeing any other numbers

and except for a spike at the beginning theres no gpu usage

[vagrant pagoda]

Also you ever used optane dimms?

[astral haven]

not for more than decoration lol

[vagrant pagoda]

The v100 mobo supports it

Also in the pictures they sent me the box is sxm3 so I might get 32gb

Which would be amazing

[astral haven]

that would be capable of running the big llama

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/wMd2WHKnceI?si=X_a33j3rUg79oSqm

"He didn't even choose the Scalper Life, the Scalper Life chose him"

[vagrant pagoda]

Also it comes with 240w CPUs it seems unless the box just says the max of the system

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah 256gb will be nice

I didn't know Skylake had 240w parts?

[astral haven]

i mean they had a "750w" sku if you pushed it hard enough lel

[vagrant pagoda]

This is a server so I doubt it can oc

Also seller says it has 8 dimms of 128

They cant test it as they don't have 220v to power it but it's sold nos and not doa

[astral haven]

oh wow thats real sweet

[vagrant pagoda]

But it has 8 GPU heat sinks so it's def 8 v100s

They said the box may not be original

It's rated for 2200w total system power XD

Which seems low for 8 v100s

V100 pcie are 300w and they are just sxm on a carrier

[astral haven]

sxm are 250 tho

[vagrant pagoda]

Still

250x8 is 2000w

[sudden imp]

Can’t wait for ampere like pricing again

[vagrant pagoda]

It supports dual 200w CPUs and like 3tb of ram

Hell there is gotta be 200w of fans

[astral haven]

you sure its 2200w total system?

does it only have 1 psu?

[vagrant pagoda]

Oh shit I'm an idoit

It's 2+2

Not redundant 2200

It's dual redundant

So 4400w

[astral haven]

4400 definetly seems normal

[vagrant pagoda]

That's more like it

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgia-glasses-sun-gif-18551027

[vagrant pagoda]

Also v100 is 300/350w for sxm

[gentle osprey]

reminds me of when my friend bought a 3070 for like $1300 and I was chillin with my GTX 970

[vagrant pagoda]

250/300 for pcie

Though pcie 32gbs are just sxm on a carrier

The 16gb is the same as a titan v

[lyric hatch]

What if I told you this has happened with pretty much every flagship release

[astral haven]

ampere was different with crypto

[lyric hatch]

Ampere was longer

[gentle osprey]

yeah the crypto did a number

I remember all the pics of the gpu farms

[lyric hatch]

But on first release

[vagrant pagoda]

I should get like 120+ tflop of fp32

[lyric hatch]

https://wccftech.com/gtx-1080-ti-sold-out-restocking-custom-aib-variants

[astral haven]

1080ti was insane tho

[gentle osprey]

It was, but yeah pretty much same effect

[vagrant pagoda]

The real question is how fucked is big boy nvlink to get working Carmonben

[gentle osprey]

lol wonder how this guy feels now

if he was sayin 8 years ago that gpu department is boring

[astral haven]

#aged like milk

cant find anyone complaining about stock tho

[gentle osprey]

true

[gentle osprey]

some of the comments on here are hilarious

can't post them here tho

[vagrant pagoda]

What's wild is all 8 gpus share a x16 3.0 to one cpu

It's setup for connectx nics direct to GPUs over pcie

No way I get that working

@astral haven optane dimms are as much as ddr4

[astral haven]

yes?

[vapid ruin]

Censored AI in action

[vagrant pagoda]

Figured they would be cheaper these days

[astral haven]

it is what it is

[gentle osprey]

I thought it was kinda funny

[astral haven]

the persistence without needing backup batteries is special

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but what can actually use it in memory mode?

Figured this would be the only time I'd ever actually use the dimms

[vapid ruin]

Some AI are soo censored, saying unsavory thing could be one of the way to know if it's AI

[vagrant pagoda]

But 3200 128s are 50-60 each

[astral haven]

also this isnt correct, they are connected with multiple pcie links and pcie switches

[vagrant pagoda]

Nope

Single x16 3.0 to CPU 0 for the gpus

The pcie version uses multiple links

The sxm uses a single

[astral haven]

no there are two options for mobo

if you go single root, you still get all 8 gpus with 1 cpu

dual root means you need dual cpu to boot 8 gpu

[vagrant pagoda]

The option is for the 6u that uses pcie slots

It can have dual or single per cpu

The nvlink only has single as an option

[astral haven]

https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/system/gpu/4u/sys-420gp-tnr

oh wait you right hmm

strange, the dgx 1 is dual root

[vagrant pagoda]

It's because nvlink is used with rdma

[astral haven]

btw supermicro claims 2x dual x16 links for single root

[vagrant pagoda]

It has 4 nvlink switches and each has a dedicated x16 slot for a nic

I'd imagine it had 4 dual 40g in mind

[astral haven]

should have been 100 by then no?

or at least 56

[vagrant pagoda]

Oh wow

It specs dual 200g

They are x16x2 cards

That's why it has 2 x16 on each side of the gpus

[astral haven]

gen 4??

[vagrant pagoda]

Gen 3

Gen3 x32

Nvlink was only gen3 then

[astral haven]

ah so 2 200g nics not 2x dual 200g nics

[vagrant pagoda]

So if you look at a connectx 6

There is a connector on the bottom

You plug in an aux card to get x32

[astral haven]

sure but x32 is 256gbps

[astral haven]

my cx5 dual 100g cards are the max that 4.0x16 can handle

[vagrant pagoda]

Dual 200g as in 2 200g

[astral haven]

dual 200g is over the limit

[vagrant pagoda]

It has 4 slots so 2 cards

[astral haven]

just bottlenecking?

[vagrant pagoda]

It's a single 200g per card

[astral haven]

ok thats what i thought

[vagrant pagoda]

Check the pic

[astral haven]

so this

[vagrant pagoda]

Never seen a pcie x32 device before

But only way to get 200g on nvlink then

Likely some overhead or latency bonus on using 200 vs 2x100 on rdma

[astral haven]

half as many ports needed on your switch

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but cost per port on 200g vs 100g

Plus I bet that 200g card with the aux board is almost as much as 2 100g

Plus 200g transceivers

[astral haven]

these aint gonna use transceivers

[vagrant pagoda]

Could you get 200g dac back then?

[astral haven]

dacs all the way

only problem with dac is distance, but coax can do some insane speeds

[vagrant pagoda]

The ieee for 200g passed like 6 months before these was released lol

[astral haven]

yea but 56g serdes links have been around for quite a while

2014 for the first one i can find

[vagrant pagoda]

But you still need actual cables to exist and be on market

[astral haven]

they made them themselves...

nvidia was already doing the whole vertical integration thing at that point

[vagrant pagoda]

Dgx-1 was 100g

This was the first to have 200g, at least sm claims

[astral haven]

nvidia was still selling the cables 🤷

also these arent ethernet

[vagrant pagoda]

They do infiniband or Ethernet but yeah

But yeah dgx-1 was p100/v100 16gb with only 50g

Dgx-2 was v100 32g with 8x100g

Sm offered v100 32g with only 2x200

The a100 dgx moved to 8x200g

16 GPU would be dope, but I doubt they would ever go cheap

[astral haven]

fun

16 gpu with 32gb dudes would be enough to run the new deepseek

but at that point just get 4 strix halo machines

[astral haven]

yea my client open webui automatically hides the bs for me

[vagrant pagoda]

I'm tempted to hunt down a 10x16 chassis now and get 8 converter cards

It's not hard to get the converter and cooler on ali

[astral haven]

i really want to try out this llm all in ram but its gonna be around $800 in sticks alone 😭

otherwise i need to get a new system

yea but if i had the cash for gpu systems id buy a house with that kinda money

im trying to run 671b, 32b works just fine no problemo

to run these gigantic models there is still a minimum size per gpu, and i dont know what it is

and again its only $800 and ill get a 10x speedup

i have a ton of pcie splitters already

and nice ones not the mining bs

yes and no

minimum model size exists

for llama 405b the minimum size is around 5GB, so basically anything works

but if you bought 50 4gb 580s youd be sorely disappointed

deepseek 671b idk what the minimum size is, it could very well be 20ish GB

(moe size is 37B)

zfs?

oh repurposing it into a storage server after

[magic minnow]

I ended up getting XTX for little bro instead of XT

[analog sinew]

i Got an order through, it seems to have become a backorder from what i can tell. So... kind of? considerin you cant order anymore i sorta did get in

[unkempt lake]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/102886/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-performance-leaks-less-than-10-slower-rtx-5080-in-4k-gaming/index.html

moore's law is dead did napkin math quick make an artocle

[lyric hatch]

if 9070 xt beats 4080 super I would be very surprised

[analog sinew]

moores law is super dead

[lyric hatch]

but if you delete your bad made up predictions then all your predictions are accurate

[magic minnow]

Ayyyy that’s a win

[analog sinew]

yea i hope it stays that way and gets shipped soonish. but considering the circumstances thats further than i expected to get

[latent mural]

I have never done this, hope i dont kill it

[analog sinew]

weekend trip with the nerds

more social activities than my weekends

mines cheaper tho

[cursive summit]

less than 10% slower
So it's an XTX

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-believe-his-lies-memento-gif-11382090

[cursive summit]

But yeah it's mlid so the article is just invalid

Can they just shadowban him across the industry so he goes away

[reef patrol]

Oh Steve... 😄

The 5090 doesn't exist. The 5080 SHOULDN'T exist, but the 5090 doesn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMd2WHKnceI
Even the US got shafted hard on this paper launch. Fewer than 300, 5090s for the entire US in Microcenter.

[lyric hatch]

$3616 USD

guess ill buy two

[analog sinew]

yeah its really wild that this is even a launch

300 sounds like review samples numbers

[lyric hatch]

im sure AMD has more 9070 XT's sitting in microcenters already

[reef patrol]

TLDR from the video: Weird timing of the launch and lack of products, is likely a combination of wanting to hit CES for media coverage, getting ahead of US tariffs (It's not us setting high prices, that's your government, the MSRP is before Trump tax) and as a consequence - CNY, meaning low production at the worst time possible 😄

[analog sinew]

:/

[vapid ruin]

fuwaa, at that point might as well get A6000 48gb if your usage is AI

waow, thought that was dollar, nvm

[whole axle]

Just to make sure getting 6000 cl28 vs cl30 doesn’t matter right?

Or should I get cl28

[analog sinew]

minimal diff, but not that you would really notice

[whole axle]

And then should I go ahead and get 64gb or is 32gb fine for a couple of years?

[ashen spindle]

32 is fine for a long time

[rough osprey]

for gaming ye

[analog drum]

Why it is always pressed? It’s new btw

in games i always crouch

[vapid ruin]

try unplug and replugging without touching the key

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/3dcenter_org/status/1885290161623425159?s=46

3DCenter.org (@3DCenter_org) on X

GeForce RTX 5080 & 5090 were sold at Proshop 🇩🇪 before the official sales start. Selected people were provided with special links ~40min before the official sales start, via which the cards could already be (successfully) ordered. Everything was sold out ~30min before the launch.

X · Jan 31, 2025, 11:32 AM

lol

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/reviewer-reports-rtx-5080-fe-instability-pcie-5-0-signal-integrity-likely-the-culprit

I think it's been discussed today or yesterday already but meh

[analog sinew]

tf

but proshop always seemed sketch to me

[marsh glade]

This amuses me

[rough osprey]

didnt have a problem with them yet

was able to get a monitor before reviewer nda ended bc of them tho

but this thing is weird

[analog sinew]

i saw weird prices from them

and this confirms they are shady ^^

[rough osprey]

time to send them an email to get an early link for next drop

[analog sinew]

that is funny

[wheat yacht]

Holy shit why have I suddenly started caring about pc aesthetics

Before I didn’t give a shit why am I trying to justify a Hyperion case

[latent mural]

Desires

[ashen spindle]

Proshop is fine they aren’t shady, the issue is scrapers found the links from the NVIDIA website to it and managed to trick the system, it’s not that they gave the link to friends

[latent mural]

I couldnt care less about aesthetics, it just has to works and with perfomance

[rough patrol]

Once again scalpers being the ones causing issues

[rough osprey]

is there a source for that?

[analog sinew]

well wouldnt they cancel it then

[wheat yacht]

I’m like this but idk I really like this case even tho it’s completely stupid and unnecessary

[rough osprey]

money is money

[ashen spindle]

I know someone who showed me where they discussed this xD

[analog sinew]

yea but if they take it they bevome shady if they were innocent before

[ashen spindle]

I mean they aren’t at fault for NVIDIA making a shit website that leaks the link