🔌│tech

[astral haven]

its not really

[stiff path]

Yes this is just part of the program

[astral haven]

llama was doing this years and years ago

[ashen spindle]

people can run doom on a chip that shows you a pregnancy test, this is nothing in comparison

[astral haven]

no
its a different LLM

[stiff path]

Ohhhh

Got it

[astral haven]

its from the same company, and generated using the same techniques, but its a different device

[ashen spindle]

in terms of games, its like people are happy about witcher 4 coming out and needing 5090 to run well, and then one guy shows witcher 1 running well on a gpu from last year

[stiff path]

Still though, its amazing how much lower they have made it accessible

[astral haven]

would be more like a witcher 3 switch port but yea

[stiff path]

Got it

But isnt it still a massive decrease

And since its open source

[astral haven]

its pretty dramatically worse

[stiff path]

People could get creative plus smic could develop their own chips

[astral haven]

its better than llama 3.3 but not by much

[astral haven]

nah, rumor on the block is that deepseek still has 10s of thousands of nvidia gpus even tho they arent h and b 100s

[stiff path]

But for most people is that enough?

[stiff path]

Yeah read that too

[ashen spindle]

deepseek used a lot of hardware their parent company had for mining

[stiff path]

How did they get those

Or legal?

[ashen spindle]

they just bought them legally lol

[stiff path]

Forget

[astral haven]

its not really good enough yet just like copilot et al

[stiff path]

Check this answer out

Not mine, went viral

[astral haven]

this is like chatgpt again
neat, but this already existed, only thing special is you can get it on a website for free

[stiff path]

“deepseek r1 asked for 1 truly novel insight about humans”

[stiff path]

Yeah but the answer is pretty wild

[ashen spindle]

its just another expected jump we will get from any tech sector at certain times, we just dont know when exactly these jumps happen because its just dependent on smart people having enough time and sometimes getting lucky

it doesnt change that for the path AGI we still need LOTS more hardware and all

[nimble arch]

More like NVIDIA can sell every enterprise their own on site AI server

[astral haven]

nvidia doesnt really want to do that, and its damn expensive to regardless

[stiff path]

Privacy concerns?

[ashen spindle]

nvidia doesnt want it, but they can pivot to it, unlike after a crypto boom where the inventory would just be pure excess and cant be sold

[stiff path]

Some companies will 100% need their own, military etc

Look at china with EVs

[stiff path]

What happens if the next surprise is some cheap gpu that is pretty decent that sells like hot cakes

Or slim chance

[ashen spindle]

I mean its mostly the same principle, if some cheap gpu can do the basic, the expensive one can run two of them at once or train the next better version even faster

it would need something like a very different chip from like tenstorrent or some company that builts them entirely different and then the software would need to be able to properly take advantage of that

[stiff path]

I mean something on the level of raw gpu power since it looks like amd and nvdia are dragging their feet

[ashen spindle]

well take a look at how intel fails to compete, so how likely is it some other company finds a suddenly much cheaper way to do it

[astral haven]

raw gpu power is going up insanely quickly

[stiff path]

Good artists create, great artists steal

[astral haven]

the 5090 is "faster" than the fastest supercomputer in 2010 (at least for ai flops)

[vagrant pagoda]

Nvidia is famous for presell to enterprise

I doubt Blackwell we be affected

[ashen spindle]

yeah but here the paint (chips) costs you billions to use, so you cant just make a design and have a chip

[stiff path]

Did anyone see this deepseek thing coming, I wouldnt have believed it 2 weeks ago

[astral haven]

anyone with their nose in the day to day wouldnt be surprised in the slightest

predicting is different tho

[stiff path]

Haha okay

[ashen spindle]

depends, most people knew something like it was coming, what day maybe not, and not that the market would react like this

[astral haven]

even the deepseek ai couldnt predict it even when i pushed and prodded it

it thought that microsoft and apple would lose more

[ashen spindle]

nobody can expect the market to jump because articles dont do math correctly and act like it only costs 5% of the openai cost when thats just from reading papers incorrectly

if you are such a prophet please handle my investment

[vagrant pagoda]

Plus at scale is the only place it matters

For local it isn't even that much better

[marsh glade]

I stand by my opinion that the "market's reaction" is narrative applied to explain what has already happened. If it wasn't deepseek then the same action would have happened and it would have been blamed on some 50xx backlash or something

[vagrant pagoda]

The full model still out of 95% of people's reach

H200 is big big money

[stiff path]

How much we talking

[vagrant pagoda]

30-40k

[stiff path]

Ooooo

[vagrant pagoda]

And you'd need 2 for the full model

Or 4 h100s

[ashen spindle]

you can get a dgx with 8 of them for like 300k

[vagrant pagoda]

Well 3 I guess

[ashen spindle]

bulk price always different if you buy 500k of them, but for some random company that wants one system for local use, its that price range

[vagrant pagoda]

@astral haven did I send you the cheap ass v100 sxm system?

The 8xv100 smx2 system for 800 bucks

[astral haven]

we can blame this just like we can blame the 2008 crash on the housing bubble burst
the correlation is immediate

[astral haven]

no, wth?

[vagrant pagoda]

I ordered one

[marsh glade]

Correlation does not equal causation

[vagrant pagoda]

eBay is pretty good for buyers so I risked it

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256512665561

[wispy delta]

Whenever a peak occurs it’s gotta go back down but will rise in the future

[astral haven]

no, but theres no such thing as causation, we just use that word to mean a high probability

[vagrant pagoda]

It's only the 16gb version

But still

[marsh glade]

I don't agree with that at all but okay 😂

[astral haven]

causation only exists in math, otherwise its always probabilities

[astral haven]

really? i would have expected this listing to be barebones

[vagrant pagoda]

I asked the seller and they said loaded

No ram no drives

[astral haven]

woaw

[vagrant pagoda]

Unsold new stock

Basically super micro only ever manufactured them with CPUs and gpus

[ashen spindle]

I mean unless we find like the biggest first sellers and have them confirm if they sold because they saw deepseek and then it dropped or because they saw it drop and then checked for deepseek we wont ever know what happened in which order

[vagrant pagoda]

They got shipped to integrators like that

So you just got to add Ram that drives

So we'll see when he gets here

I'm really wondering if all eight of them can stack up to a single modern 100 Gb gpu

[astral haven]

probably should for llm stuffs

[vagrant pagoda]

Would be cool with grid too

But that will never happen

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah 128gb isn't a ton these days but I'm gonna try

[astral haven]

should be able to easily handle the 80b models even if you cant use the smallest quants

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah

You see the CPU run of r1 earlier though?

[astral haven]

was it 6tps on dual 8ch epyc?

[vagrant pagoda]

6 to 8 yeah

Makes me wonder what a set of first or second gen epic blades would do

[fickle ore]

its just algos feeding on news

[lyric hatch]

So I guess the speculated performance for the 5080 was pretty bang on

[fickle ore]

dno how they make the logical jump

[vagrant pagoda]

4xh100 i got 25 to 30

I think it should do more though

[astral haven]

is that big enough?

thats 320gb out of 400 by my math

[ashen spindle]

wonder if someone is trying it on Mi300c just for the hbm xD

or if the future for llm is just cpus with cxl memory for capacity

[vagrant pagoda]

*h200

[astral haven]

you need the capacity to run it, but you need the speed too

[astral haven]

oh wow yea thatll do it

[vagrant pagoda]

It's was a image I already had ready to run on lambda

I didn't do any tuning or nothing

[astral haven]

as soon as one of the mining company manages to turn their old ethereum asics into llm running stuff its ogre for gpus

[vagrant pagoda]

So run some shit I found online to do the test

But 6-8 on a blade vs 25-30 on a dedicated GPU machine is wild

I'll wait for better benching though because my run could be ass

I do work for an architect and they use flux for background and details on renders

[astral haven]

i also wonder how optimized the memory layout is for running these MOE models

[vagrant pagoda]

They pay me to spin up lambda and tunnel them a comfyui interface on demand lol

So I had a 4xh200 instance image I could test on easy

And free XD

Someone else footing the bill

[astral haven]

cause if one expert is all on one gpu, by rearranging the memory they could get a 4x speedup

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah no idea if it was running perfectly

[broken moat]

Nvidia fanboys in shambles after benchmarks love to see it

[lyric hatch]

Not suprising considering it's basically using the same node as their 4000 series cards

Big performance and efficiency gains won't come until that happens

[ashen spindle]

it can, if they do bigger changes in the hardware

[spiral island]

Unless architecture changes happen

[broken moat]

But that’s insane that the 4080 super performs better 5-10% in some games then the 5080

Im just bitter because I was crucified in pc master Reddit for saying nvidia new series was over priced junk

[lyric hatch]

Where is that true

[broken moat]

Check the charts in 1440p

I know cs is one of them

[lyric hatch]

I'm not seeing

[ashen spindle]

dont trust outliers just found on one review

that could be a lot of things

for cs for example some test replays other test bot mtaches etc.

[broken moat]

Wait sorry wrong one

But this this test could have been outlier but that’s insane the 5080 is not a huge performance gain

[astral haven]

🤷 meh 10% cheaper for 4% less perf in the absolute worst case extreme outlier?

[broken moat]

I would be surprised to get at MRSP with all the scalpers and bots

[ashen spindle]

10% cheaper? dream on

the 4080s unoffical msrp was also 999$

after the 4080 for 1200 was laughed at

[astral haven]

🤷 they will only charge what they can get away with, if folks dont buy them at 1200, they will lower the price

[broken moat]

No they won’t that’s the problem

[ashen spindle]

it worked for the 4080 what makes you think it wouldn't work now lol

its basically after 2 year they did not inflation adjust and thats it

or I guess technicall it worked for teh 4080s to be 10% above msrp so we wont get a msrp 5080 aside from FE either for a while lol

[astral haven]

scalpers only make money if people are willing to pay more for it, if you think scalpers, that means you think people will pay

[ashen spindle]

yes, which means its not going to be cheaper xd

[broken moat]

Yes

[lyric hatch]

It'll even out although I'm not sure there will be any cards at actual MSRP outside of FE cards

[astral haven]

maybe, but again thats saying "this card is good enough that people will still buy even above msrp"

[lyric hatch]

Well it's not like AMD has a competing product

If you want a certain performance level it's Nvidia or nothing

[broken moat]

True we don’t really know until it comes out in March

[unkempt lake]

16gb of vram is such a meme

For 4k gaming

[ashen spindle]

memory allocation is not usage

this shows allocation

[unkempt lake]

Beep boop you're wrong

Game actively uses ~15gb

sorry but 16gb is cutting it hella close

[broken moat]

That’s why I’m happy with my 7900xt for 4k

[ashen spindle]

and how do you know it actively uses 15gb?

[astral haven]

why would you show this graph then?

[unkempt lake]

Also some games like space marine 2 with the 4k texture back

Really take a lor of vram

[ashen spindle]

how do you know its used and not allocated

[unkempt lake]

Game crashes at anything higher due to being out of vram?

[ashen spindle]

where is that info because its not on the graph

[unkempt lake]

in... the audio

[lyric hatch]

Unless you can find a chart that shows meaningful performance loss at lower vram I don't see the issue. the 12GB 4070 super still beats the 7900 XT at 4K with RT and doesn't seem to have atrocious 1% lows like what would happen if vram was being maxed

[unkempt lake]

sorry if i posted a darn picture

[ashen spindle]

so is this a graph of how much it needs before i crashes?

[spiral island]

Y'all gotta ease up a smidge

[unkempt lake]

you know what, you can just go watch the video if you want more info how about that

yes it's technically allocation shown

[ashen spindle]

I'm just asking because the driver cant differentiate between used and extra vram thats just allocated for caching

[unkempt lake]

But the game will crash if the settings are cranked higher

[astral haven]

crash doesnt mean out of vram

[unkempt lake]

Same shit as RE4R if you crank the textures too high

It will run but you'll exceed your vram eventually causing a crash

[unkempt lake]

You're right it could also mean terrible stutter

[astral haven]

thats also unusual for being out of vram

usually all you get is popin

[unkempt lake]

Go play indiana jones on an 8gb framebuffer with the textures cranked

And come back later

[astral haven]

there isnt an 8gb card fast enough for that 🤷

[lyric hatch]

You got more issues then vram on those cards at 4k

[unkempt lake]

Game runs fine on a 2080 with settings cranked except textures and hair

At 1440p

It's all about that vram

[lyric hatch]

We're talking games that run at 28fps on a 7900 xtx at 4k with RT on

[astral haven]

you do know that 4k is twice the pixels of 1440p right?

[unkempt lake]

my argument is that 16gb is fucking small for a brand new 1000usd card and that running out of vram sucks ass

Doesn't matter what resolution

[astral haven]

whats happening isnt running out of vram tho

[unkempt lake]

crank the damn settings and it will

future releases

Go look at some of the current new gen games out and their vram usage

[astral haven]

the vram usage of most games is pretty low, they just pack all the data they can into the vram so they dont have to decode it later

[ashen spindle]

yes they are cheaping out on vram, my point is you cant see actual vram usage because the driver cant differentiate what its used for caching or necessary data

[gentle osprey]

nah if you hangout here enough, this is normal

[unkempt lake]

I know that

But we can't just pretend like this will not cause issues eventually

And like it's acceptable to cheap out this much

On a 1000usd product

[astral haven]

there has been 1 card that almost didnt have enough vram and it was the fury x

[gentle osprey]

plus nvidia has been becoming more vram efficient

[unkempt lake]

Say thay to 8gb nvidia owners

[astral haven]

the reason we know the fury x didnt have enough vram is because in several games, details were missing on many items that existed on other cards at the same settings, and sometimes popped in later but sometimes never popped in

[unkempt lake]

With a straight face

Or owners of cards like the 3050 6gb

Or hell even the laptop 3050 4gb

[ashen spindle]

huh? the 6gb of textures is 6gb, doesnt matter if its amd or nvidia, the hardware cant really change that

[astral haven]

actually thats not true

pascal was able to fit around 5% more in raw texture into vram than maxwell due to an improved hardware texture engine

[broken moat]

I think that’s just a fancy way to say they’re being cheap

[astral haven]

but its not gonna be the difference of an entire gigabyte

[steady sail]

nvidia apple things cheaps out of vram but if u want more vram buy expensive

[jaunty rose]

Is nvidia actually cutting support for the 10 series soon?

[ashen spindle]

pascal will likely not get further game ready drivers yes

but it still works just fine

[astral haven]

actually thats a funny coincidence because apple also silently changes core count and memory bandwidth depending on your ram quantity, so its a perfect analogy
people think they are getting a perf boost from ram but its actually just more cores

[gentle osprey]

no , we're talking like 400mb

its not huge

[astral haven]

but like thats 400mb on 12 or 16gb, less than 10%

[spiral island]

@gentle osprey You travelling to mecca for this after all?

[jaunty rose]

I’m excited for DLSS 4, I have a 3070 so I never got to experience 3.8

[gentle osprey]

nah I'll just buy online

[ashen spindle]

thats also only conditional, if I were to manually fill the vram with data the gpu cant compress when I give it uncompressable data

[latent mural]

Going to mecca?

[astral haven]

not exactly
you are required to give it in a format that it can process, and nvidia does have a few more supported formats (at least did in pascal generation i hope less now)

now you could fill it with garbage data but then you cant use it

[spiral island]

Microcenter

[latent mural]

Ohh

[ashen spindle]

but not every piece of data in the vram is a texture

[spiral island]

Must have mistyped

[latent mural]

My bad

[astral haven]

true, but alot of the other data is treated as textures and encoded and decoded as such

[ashen spindle]

yeah but that means the total gains of any lossless compression are even lower in practice

[unkempt lake]

Segregation 🤮

[jaunty rose]

Vram usage on modern games is the bane of my existence

[gentle osprey]

here, I'll change it to "very slightly more"

lol

[ashen spindle]

xD yeah its nothing that warrants them sticking to such little ram on each card

[latent mural]

My GPU has like 8gb vram xD

[gentle osprey]

yeah my brain don't understand that picture besides that single word

[latent mural]

Never failed me babygirl

[gentle osprey]

Oh I totally agree

[lyric hatch]

Yeah it incentivizes you to buy their next card

[gusty kiln]

1080ti, never again

[astral haven]

its really a fomo tactic more than any real performance loss in game

and it really seems its working perfectly just with the downside of pushing some folks to amd

[gentle osprey]

yeah I need 32gb

[lyric hatch]

Still rocking my 3060 ti with 8gb of vram and the biggest issue I have is definitely not vram

[gentle osprey]

my games need more than 24gb

[astral haven]

but the cool bit for nvidia is that when people downgrade from say a 10gb card to a slower 16gb card, they think that its amds fault

[gentle osprey]

textures popping in

its bad

[ashen spindle]

{anything happens}, they think that its amds fault

[gentle osprey]

always blame AMD

its easier

[lyric hatch]

AMD gonna pull the old classic $50 undercut from Nvidia for same performance but offer more vram

[gentle osprey]

likely

[latent mural]

Amd is betterest

[ashen spindle]

well the hope is they also offer better power efficency so that would make it quite a good option

[latent mural]

Amd cpu is satisfrying

[gentle osprey]

Would be nice if they went even $100 under Nvidia

make more peeps switch probs

than $50

[latent mural]

The 7800x3d. Is so far very nice ngl

[spiral island]

And bundle a game. What can you bundle that the kids are into, Fortnite?

[latent mural]

For CS2 it alao felt way better thn my intel cpu

[gentle osprey]

cause most already biased towards team green so $50 isn't gonna be enough to persuade

[ashen spindle]

well you see the thing is they dont need more marketshare

[gentle osprey]

they gonna be like "DLSS, Ray tracing" for $50

[ashen spindle]

if they can sell at 50$ discount enough then 100$ discount wont make sense

[spiral island]

Though I guess the new FSR is sounding promising

And doesn't it only run on the new amd silicon?

[ashen spindle]

plus the 50 series didnt improve RT at all so if the RT of amd catches up its only dlss

[ashen spindle]

yes, rdna3 is a maybe for fsr4

[gentle osprey]

I mean I somewhat agree but even then I feel like people will buy just for DLSS

[ashen spindle]

I mean.. 4x frame gen wasnt very well taken even on nvidia reddits, fsr4 in person at ces looked great from everyone who saw it

[lyric hatch]

In the one game it's implemented in currently

[ashen spindle]

no it was shown in multiple

[lyric hatch]

Which was horrible in FSR3 so really made tge comparison look good

[gentle osprey]

I just feel like the nvidia bias is so strong that people won't switch to AMD for $50 idk

[ashen spindle]

thats fine for amd, they dont need marketshare at the cost of margins

[ashen spindle]

no I mean people who looked at it in person said they couldnt really directly find issues, not some pre made slides or side by sides

[gentle osprey]

Why don't they need marketshare?

[ashen spindle]

what do they get from marketshare?

[gentle osprey]

money, influence

[ashen spindle]

how do they get money from it?

[lyric hatch]

By selling more cards

[ashen spindle]

but less money on each card

you want margins not marketshare at the cost of margins

[spiral island]

Uh

[ashen spindle]

of course, ideally you are like nvidia and have so much you have both

[spiral island]

If your marketshare is large enough you can push margins

see: nvidia

[ashen spindle]

yeah but nvidia isnt getting marketshare at the cost of margins

[lyric hatch]

When you have a better product you can push margins

[spiral island]

Sounds a lot like circular logic to me but maybe I'm just hyperventillating thinking about 50xx

[marsh ice]

question is the iqunix ez60 better than the wooting ? it has 8k hz it has 0.05 actuation and its cheaper ?

[spiral island]

I mean the modern tech company MO is to run at negative margins to get marketshare, then pump pump

[ashen spindle]

if its your main business or something like that perhaps

[spiral island]

Granted not necessarily mappable to the consumer GPU market, but you get my point

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I guess I'm expecting AMD to be more aggressive in some way

[ashen spindle]

and what intel needs to do since they need marketshare to gain driver experience etc.

[lyric hatch]

Depends what your business model is AMD doesn't make money from getting people to buy their GPUs like a subscription type model would

[ashen spindle]

but for amd who have a market place, working drivers, you want to use what you have to make margin products

the entire plan from amd was make reusable chiplets to push better margins

[lyric hatch]

Chiplet design seems to have not been very smooth release for their GPUs

[ashen spindle]

no its been fine

the issues rdna3 had were not related to chiplets at all

and on datacenter instinct has massive chiplets

[lyric hatch]

What were they related to

[ashen spindle]

we dont quite know except something fucks with thermals, the cards were targeted to clock 3+ghz

and you can reach that in compute workloads

and N33 has the same issues and is monolithic so any chiplet part isnt the cause

[astral haven]

this only works for

1. must be software
2. must increase in utility when more people are using it
3. must have very low per user costs and just large fixed up front costs

[spiral island]

I disagree with all these points, but also don't think I have the will to argue

[ashen spindle]

the main point is that more radeon user doesnt mean they will buy radeon next time again

so selling at a loss wont do anything if you dont then make a product that can be sold at profit

and if you can do that, might as well start selling less but all at profit

[spiral island]

Alright, I'll give it a quick response

1. Many gaming consoles have been sold at a loss with the expectation being software attach from 1st party or 3rd party licensing will more than make up for the loss
2. You might argue that for gaming consoles their online ecosystem increases utility, but selling gaming hardware at a loss predated online gaming
3. I suppose this is true in this example 🤷

[ashen spindle]

amd doesnt make sales from games unlike microsoft/sony

they dont have any value to gain from having a bigger marketshare like that

[spiral island]

I honestly didn't expect I'd be picked apart for this

I concede, pass me the dunce cap

[ashen spindle]

xD its not like it's a hostile discussion

[spiral island]

Nah like I said I just don't have the energy right now

All good

[astral haven]

this actually is a misconception, the consoles dont outright lose money on their own, they just dont make enough money to pay for the investment

eg it takes a billion bucks to do R&D and marketing for a console generation, and what pays for that is the games
microsoft doesnt lose money if you buy the console, they just lose money if noone buys the games

[magic minnow]

https://www.techradar.com/gaming/steam-deck/steam-deck-fans-youre-in-for-a-good-one-amds-fsr-3-frame-generation-is-now-available-on-valves-handheld-thanks-to-a-new-decky-plugin

[unkempt lake]

Ah yes

Useless

Because the base framerate ain't high enough

[umbral heron]

Hence why upscaler

It's not framegen

[unkempt lake]

The article says

[unkempt lake]

Framegen

[lyric hatch]

Don't see the appeal at resolutions that low is where it performs the worst

[unkempt lake]

Maybe on a 90hz oled deck where you have a base of 60?

[umbral heron]

Ah ok, my bad
I don't read titles nowadays, almost all being clickbaits

[unkempt lake]

But even then the low res would look bad

[spiral island]

Well, title or the article.

[astral haven]

imo it actually matters less when using a controller due to the ineherent disconnect already

[thick elk]

Some people may still like frame interpolation at lower frame rates though, so not a bad thing to exist.

[unkempt lake]

True but under 60 it will feel and look like ass

[thick elk]

Also game dependent.

[ashen spindle]

yeah but even on controller you notice the issue when you use 30fps as base lol

and thats not considering the artifacts

[astral haven]

maybe
havent tried it yet so idk
i was about to say ill update it when i get home but its not even valve??? nvm

[thick elk]

I'm just saying it's a nice niche thing to exist for the people that like it in games that work well enough with it.

[ashen spindle]

valve knows that the fsr3 manual says you should not use it at that low framerate lol

[umbral heron]

Could be useful for games that fluctualte 60~80fps to stable 90 on OLED

[thick elk]

Would still be from a 45fps base though, maybe not the worst but not great either for most.

Meanwhile me playing rdr2: vsync off, allow tearing, left trackpad for aiming, definitely not the usecase.

[umbral heron]

I mean more 60~80 -> 120~160 capped to 90

[ashen spindle]

idk if the gpu is strong enough for that

[umbral heron]

Oh, right, it needs to replace DLSS, so it won't really work for indies

[thick elk]

There are indies using dlss, though I don't know of good examples for that.

[ashen spindle]

upscaling alone on the resolution it runs on would take like 1ms+ on a similar dgpu

so I imagine frame gen would take even more so it might just straight up not be worth running it

[sharp badger]

A upgrade from 3080 -> 5080 would be kinda good but as of now i'll just be able to run the games i want this year, would also rather just go to a 5090 if i'd upgrade

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/IvQwlN1sE0U?si=GPhZ8_quzRhNZxh2

Pcie 5 being buggy

[latent mural]

My friend wonders why his CD isnt detected

[ashen spindle]

a 5080 super might be worth it next year or whenever

[sharp badger]

Yeah will probably wait for that

[gusty kiln]

finally, greater than 50% of a 5090

[lyric hatch]

But then you might as well wait for 6000 series

[sharp badger]

True

[thick elk]

Just an annoyance though, card doesn't need it, so setting to pcie-4 helps. Still not nice that it has this problem.

[ashen spindle]

likely from him using press bios with press drivers, there were some known issues about pcie

and nobody but reviewers have press bios for the board+ press drivers

[thick elk]

He also suspects it's an FE issue, so inevitably most are going to be on partner models which don't have the issue.

[unkempt lake]

Hopefully it gets ironed out

[ashen spindle]

what gets ironed out?

nobody is running a press bios on their board from retail lol

[sharp badger]

Hopefully there's some nice game reveals during the year

Still got 2 endings to go through on Stalker 2

[spiral island]

TIL What the car exists 🤤

[magic minnow]

goodbye 7950x3d

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-crying-sad-gif-15286789

[gentle osprey]

I come in here to learn things from these fine folks, most discussions are pretty civil imo

[spiral island]

It wasn't a big deal, I'm just tired and disagreed. Probably shoulda just kept my trap shut.

[gentle osprey]

lol nah man you’re good

[broken moat]

No worrres Turing we love you

Unlike mark that edge lord

[gentle osprey]

Wrong sticker

Oops

[lyric hatch]

Well finally pulled the trigger and got the s25 ultra

[latent mural]

Pizza edge

Ofc

[broken moat]

I’m kinda a pizza connoisseur myself

[lyric hatch]

Why is all this pizza in the #🔌│tech channel

[wispy delta]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-cheese-deep-dish-pizza-cheesy-food-gif-7799582189935666001

[latent mural]

Pizza is main food for chaos computerclub sessiobs

[magic minnow]

[analog sinew]

why'd you get that

[spiral island]

This is not pizza

[magic minnow]

My old cpu just put in the 9800

[magic minnow]

Piza

[analog sinew]

ah

[magic minnow]

Are you using turbo mode?

[analog sinew]

ready to join the melee tomorrow?

[unkempt lake]

no

[analog sinew]

nah

[magic minnow]

I’m still on the fence but I’ll make up my mind by tonigff hr

Tonight

[analog sinew]

my PC is giga bottlenecked by my gpu

[unkempt lake]

dont do it kitten

[analog sinew]

since its old

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/weather-report-jojo-part6-jjba-gif-22681290

[unkempt lake]

YOUR 4090 IS GOOD ENOUGH

[gentle osprey]

The outside of my Micro Center

[unkempt lake]

Peiple are cringe

[gentle osprey]

indeed

more power to em tho

[unkempt lake]

CONSUME

at least the subway will be making bank

Strategic location

[gentle osprey]

Got portable space heaters and all

[analog sinew]

its a fun camping trip

[latent mural]

These people ...

What is it worth it to devote time and yourself for ??

[analog sinew]

5090

[umbral heron]

A chance to get an overpriced GPU

[latent mural]

These people are helpless and godless

Familyless

Friendless

Jobless??

I assume everything is lacking

[reef patrol]

Including your understanding of the context?

[latent mural]

I mock them

[gentle osprey]

Idk about all that, but can’t be jobless if buying 5090s

Gotta be doing something

I’m sure they all have friends and families

And believe in a god or higher power

[spiral island]

I guess I should have expected but... jesus

[gentle osprey]

Right lol

This is Denver btw

[latent mural]

I am mocking them with that message, are you guys acting that u dont get anything

[reef patrol]

wat

[gentle osprey]

Not acting

[umbral heron]

I mean their money and time, so whatever

[gentle osprey]

Exactly

[spiral island]

Did you ask any of 'em when they got there?

[gentle osprey]

I just wanted to share with you guys lol

[gentle osprey]

Some been there since early morning

Like 9am

[spiral island]

Ah, I guess that's better than overnight?

[reef patrol]

Please don't make jokes about self harm or suicide...

[latent mural]

I didnt ??

[reef patrol]

Yes...yes you did.

[latent mural]

Wait, it is actually used in such context?

Bruh

[reef patrol]

I'm going to go drink acetone

[spiral island]

If you did with it what you said it would absolutely not do good things to your health.

Anyway

[gentle osprey]

Also has nothing to do with the current conversation

[spiral island]

I choose to believe they are all avid gamers excited to upgrade their rig, and not 90% people looking to post them up on eBay before they even get home.

[gentle osprey]

Apparently the manager came out and said they’d be giving out vouchers and letting them know how much stock there is I guess so people in the back of the line don’t wait for no reason

[reef patrol]

That's nice of them.

[spiral island]

That's very wise, especially with how cold it is there (I assume, it is here in new england)

[gentle osprey]

Yeah and supposed to be a storm tonight lol

Snow storm

https://youtu.be/WXP-e8g4Kzw?si=xysXLLxQTWzyNIAq

Micro Center Manager giving a speech

Jk lol , just explaining the vouchers

[analog sinew]

but are you waiting too

[gentle osprey]

No

Not my videos

I’m just observing the chaos from a distance

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

Manager seems chill tho

Nice of them to not make the nerds freeze to death

[magic minnow]

do you use HWinfo or Afterburner to keep track of your temps?

[spiral island]

Hwinfo is the way

Tap into its data with stream deck and always know what’s up

[gentle osprey]

Both are fine if by Afterburner you mean RTSS

[spiral island]

Or overlay it

[gentle osprey]

I would disable any sensors you're not actively using in RTSS tho

[unkempt lake]

Dude's doing a documentary on scalpers

[magic minnow]

yeh rtss

[gentle osprey]

I'll have the netflix special out soon

[spiral island]

Why’s that?

[magic minnow]

It's not picking up the cpu temps on the 9800x3d :c

[spiral island]

Oh sorry you said rtss

[gentle osprey]

to put it simply, hurts performance

[spiral island]

I’ve never a/b’d stats perf

[unkempt lake]

give us your best nature documentary impression

[gentle osprey]

haha nah I'll just get snoop dogg to do it

[unkempt lake]

Power draw metrics do

[spiral island]

David Attenborough

The realest of the real.

[gentle osprey]

what the

[spiral island]

Get em

Speaking of which, I’m getting nervous for the elderly with how many AI spam calls I’m getting 😰

[gentle osprey]

really?

haven't noticed any calls lately, you number got tapped

lol

[balmy vector]

For shizzle, these people out here stapled to the pavement trying to get that graphics payment. A 5090 their minds wilding some even spiraling 🌀

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/LJmnuR0wAeo?si=yBaLRObxefOmmV-J

time to check out Steve standing on a chair for the 5080

4080Ti Super*

[umbral heron]

So... if 5080 is like 8% over 4080/XTX
And AMD said that they want to change their branding of GPU to make it easier for consumers to compare GPUs, ergo 9070 = 5070...
How much worse than 4080/XTX will it be?

[ashen spindle]

I mean the hope is they assumed nvidia would make more and its better than the 5070

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I would hope it's better than 5070

[unkempt lake]

7900xt with fsr4 and better rt for 499usd would be neat

[gentle osprey]

Yeah basically the 9070XT should be $499 imo

[broken moat]

Doubt it would be nice tho

[gentle osprey]

@lyric hatch man you were right that 5080 is sad

but like Steve said "at least its faster"

sometimes

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-sunglass-smile-smile-in-pain-gif-24285519

[umbral heron]

Microsoft: We are investigating with OpenAI if DeepSeek has violated OpenAI ToS
Also Microsoft: https://www.theverge.com/news/602162/microsoft-deepseek-r1-model-azure-ai-foundry-github

[crimson wigeon]

Well why not, users want that so why not provide it

[ashen spindle]

dell already is selling instance for local hosting it

too bad the article doesnt mention if or how much it costs to acces it on azure

[lyric hatch]

If it's not $500 then it better perform better then I expect it to

Because 5070 is $550 and $500 is already the classic $50 undercut

[gentle osprey]

Agreed

and yeah it is the classic undercut lol

[lyric hatch]

Not too sure on the 5070 though it looks very cut down

[broken moat]

Wait what’s yall gpus and price you got them for?

[ashen spindle]

5070 is very cut down and 5070ti doesnt have a FE so msrp likel is completely made up for that

[umbral heron]

Nah, that means no 5070Ti will be cheaper than $800

[lyric hatch]

Prices in aus are going to be around the $700 mark when converted to USD

For the 5070

[broken moat]

[umbral heron]

Same for EU I guess

[lyric hatch]

Well 7900 XT was about $850 here too so

[analog sinew]

piss

[broken moat]

What the 850??

[analog sinew]

i kinda dont even wanna buy a new gpu anymore

[broken moat]

In USD?

[gentle osprey]

yes

[magic minnow]

Does it make ai girlfriend?

[gentle osprey]

yes

[broken moat]

wtf damn I lucked out at $550

[gentle osprey]

its like genie in bottle, make anything you want

[gentle osprey]

thats AUD converted to USD after VAT/Taxes

[lyric hatch]

Yeah does include taxes

But we typically don't get the price drops that the US gets either

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

[broken moat]

That sucks

[gentle osprey]

Yeah that's why peeps in other countries complain sometimes it's like 25% price increase just flat out

[unkempt lake]

Stop worrying

Buy something and enjoy it

You wanna play mh wilds

You need a better gpu

Buy a gpu

Overthinking it is just bad

[gentle osprey]

Mans getting sad thinking about GPUs lol

[unkempt lake]

So will stressing out to save a few bucks

[umbral heron]

Get 4080S or XTX and be happy

[unkempt lake]

Literally what i was telling him earlier

[gentle osprey]

Always think of ways you CAN do something, thinking of all the ways you CANT doesn't do you any good

[broken moat]

How can I learn how to fly then like a bird cam

[unkempt lake]

But he was upset that he didn't get a top of the line gpu to go with his 9800x3d but like... the generation is just a generation who csres if it runs good

And plays the games you care about

[gentle osprey]

same way the wright brothers did when they invented the airplane

[broken moat]

No like fly like Superman

[umbral heron]

I mean given how 5080 looks in benchmarks 4080S looks pretty good

[unkempt lake]

Agreed

So does the xtx

[gentle osprey]

You'll have to invent something that lets you fly like superman then

nothing is impossible

[unkempt lake]

Rn it's either buy that or wait for the 9070xt and cross your fingers its good

[broken moat]

I already tried got kicked out of the military

[umbral heron]

XTX doesn't know how it made it there and is just chilling

[unkempt lake]

Also like

If there's a game you want to upgrade for then its the best reason to upgrade

Rather than for the sake of upgrading

[lyric hatch]

Highest end cards that are still in stock here are 4070 supers and 7800 XTs

[unkempt lake]

Yeah people rushing to buy 7900xtx and 4080s

[gentle osprey]

ebay is crazy rn too

[lyric hatch]

Been like that for months though

[gentle osprey]

lots of china scammers but also the legit ones are selling for crazy prices used

[gentle osprey]

yeah but now theres an influx of 4090 owners and stuff selling

[umbral heron]

Oh, prices went up here
Still in stock, but more expensive

[gentle osprey]

selling used for what they are brand new

like my model used is going for around 2100-2200

[umbral heron]

I bought mine for 950, now it's for 1100

[gentle osprey]

in stores or ebay for 1100?

[umbral heron]

In stores, haven't checked ebay

[gentle osprey]

ah okay

[fair gull]

ill just chill a few months till all the stuff i want is nicely in stock

aint gonna worry about 5090 in a few hrs and bashing my head on a keyboard

[balmy vector]

Cant wait for the nvidia driver update tomorrow

[gentle osprey]

Yeah curious to see people's experiences on different cards

[gentle osprey]

I'll let you know how it goes

and if I need to place another order for an 80HE

[fair gull]

sure

[nimble arch]

New update to the NVIDIA app for the native DLSS overrides is what I’m looking forward to more

[gentle osprey]

nother micro center docuseries update

[bright briar]

happy...?.....what is this feeling i never heard of

[gentle osprey]

it starts from within

[bright briar]

maybe one day

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-that-within-us-tovino-thomas-pinkvilla-we-have-what-it-takes-it's-part-of-us-gif-12368876260954485471

[umbral heron]

Am happy with my puter

[bright briar]

when i decide not to do solo queue in comp

[balmy vector]

New puter?

Whatcha make?

[gentle osprey]

cals got the happy puter

[balmy vector]

Happy?!

[umbral heron]

Yeah, I don't think I'll upgrade anything in next 2 years at least

[balmy vector]

I feel the same

Only peripherals ill change if needed

Except keyboard obviously

[gentle osprey]

I just want a new monitor tbh

[balmy vector]

Thats real

Gimme 1000hz true black

[gentle osprey]

haha right

need that 20x frame gen

[nimble arch]

I’d like a monitor that’s actually a monitor. C2 42” has incredible HDR performance though. 😔

[gentle osprey]

Yeah, waiting for Tim from HUB to do a review on the new LG GX9s

[nimble arch]

I really should try one of these 27” 4K QD-OLEDs though

[gentle osprey]

He said that new bendy one might become part of his main setup

[balmy vector]

Id kill for hdr to work perfectly for me lmaoo

I always have hdr messing up

[nimble arch]

Never have any issues here

Or maybe I’m just accustomed to the issues

Who knows

[astral haven]

@ashen spindle oh my god i want to run the full size r1 now

[magic minnow]

Are you camping out too?

[umbral heron]

Is simple
Just click the checkbox

[gentle osprey]

Damn nice

[gentle osprey]

Hell no

Who you think I am

[ashen spindle]

oh god llm run via swap file? xD

[astral haven]

yaas

[balmy vector]

i didnt see that setting wtf windows

[astral haven]

optane lets gooo

[magic minnow]

lol

[balmy vector]

(Joke)

[gentle osprey]

I will try online tho

[balmy vector]

Cam is gonna instant transmission into the store and nab one

[gentle osprey]

I’m not panicked like everyone else tho, I really don’t care if I get one or not, more for fun than anything

See if I can beat the robots

The AI super models tryna get 5090s

[gentle osprey]

Make me a 5090 bot with it (jk)

[astral haven]

should take about 5 seconds per token at worst or about 2 hours per normal response

for a more complicated task like this one, 8 hours

[ashen spindle]

lmao

[balmy vector]

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[astral haven]

making the context length so long that it shoves me into system ram already tanks me from 32 tokens/s to 2
so it makes sense that dropping to 10x slower media would make it 10x slower

[magic minnow]

Nvidia tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-money-in-the-bag-gif-21484249

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chair-rocking-gif-27414583

[magic minnow]

Lol

[gentle osprey]

someone got the aerial view drone

[magic minnow]

Jesus lol planning the heist of the century

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/dow-game-den-of-wolves-den-of-wolves-game-dow-heist-gif-17451024491295517659

[spiral island]

Stop. Please.

So they get to go home tonight cause of the ticket system?

[gentle osprey]

Im guessing so

store manager said they'll post stock of how many of each model on the window

at 7pm

so like 1 1/2 hrs from now

so by then people can decide if they even need to wait in line any longer based on stock or whatever

[spiral island]

I can already empathize with the first person at the cutoff T_T

[gentle osprey]

right you're just standing there while they hand out vouchers and the last one gets handed out to the person in front of you

https://tenor.com/view/ummmmmm-excuse-me-what-gif-19629790

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-uncontrollable-shower-cry-gif-3550874

[ashen spindle]

nah I couldnt empathize if you can just order a 40 series aka 20% worse at the 5090 level from home lol

[spiral island]

But it's cold...

[ashen spindle]

thats why I'd say at home in the warmth xD

[unkempt lake]

it's not even cold

It's cold here

Not there

Yall just weak

[thick ermine]

-7°F here

[spiral island]

Yes, I am weak. I hate the cold.

[unkempt lake]

-16.6f here

Why can't you guys use celcius

I had to fricking convert

[thick ermine]

Although my state doesn’t keep inventory of graphics cards. MSI US won’t even ship to my state 💀

[spiral island]

Hey wasn't my call

[rough patrol]

I dont understand people camping out for a gpu when you can just buy it normally in a few weeks

[unkempt lake]

That's the funny thing

You won't

[gentle osprey]

i enjoy cold

[unkempt lake]

I do too

Its why i live here

[thick ermine]

You can literally just pay like $100 for access to the stellar bot which is the most common bot used by scalpers.

[balmy vector]

Winter best part of the year

[spiral island]

I simply do not understand you people

[ashen spindle]

theres not enough stock for every scalper to get one even with bots xD

[unkempt lake]

i was born in the cold

therefore its normal

[gentle osprey]

funny cause when it comes to alot of things we do use celsius like computers, space, etc just not for our weather

[thick ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-knight-rises-batman-bane-you-merely-adopted-the-dark-i-was-born-in-it-gif-3456094

[rough patrol]

I dont think i will get away with saying what i think should happen to scalpers but suffice to say that nobody likes them

[unkempt lake]

Guys is my cpu cooled correctly it's running at 140f!!!

[spiral island]

Uh water boils at... 230F?

I don't think anybody knows

[gentle osprey]

and freezes at 32

[rough patrol]

Water boils at 420

[thick ermine]

Ngl I’ll be using a bot but not to scalp. Bunch of friends and I put $ in a pot so we could get access to the bot.

[rough patrol]

Freezes at 69

[unkempt lake]

100c and freezes at 0c

[spiral island]

Freezes at 32 I can remember

[balmy vector]

Could say it’s…. Blazing hot

[gentle osprey]

celsius is easier

[spiral island]

Yeah I know, just pointing out how silly it is

[gentle osprey]

0 to 100

[unkempt lake]

Same

[thick ermine]

Kelvin is even easier

[spiral island]

Plus I genuinely don't know the boiling temp of water in F

[astral haven]

maybe but noone knows the temperature books burn at in c

[gentle osprey]

books?

lol

[unkempt lake]

We should base ourselves on the boiling point of alcohol

[astral haven]

everyone who went to hs in the us knows tho

[unkempt lake]

Because getting drunk is something everyonel likes

[spiral island]

I guess I was about right, around 212F depending on altitude

[thick ermine]

26 and never been drunk

[astral haven]

highly variable depending on purity

[gentle osprey]

451°F (233°C)

[astral haven]

yep

[unkempt lake]

Good for you!

[gentle osprey]

[spiral island]

What's the prize?

[unkempt lake]

Idk

Alcohol free beer?

[thick ermine]

Alcohol?

[unkempt lake]

Drugs

[thick ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/drugs-gif-26893586

[balmy vector]

Gambling addiction is your prize

[iron wave]

Huh, apparently browsers on Apple AARCH64 machines are using the CPU wrong and enabling side channel attacks.

[ashen spindle]

only in safari from what I read

which is funny if true

[astral haven]

if its also on ios, theres nothing else...

[iron wave]

The "researchers" didn't bother to test the other ones.

[ashen spindle]

no just m series apparently

so not ios

oh nvm its more than the m series

[iron wave]

iOS has some M chips, iPad Pros.

Pretty sure at least.

But yeah, https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/113914534615474981

There's an actual bug in here, but most of it's just bad software.

It's unfortunate that it seems the only way to really make these things faster is to use unsafe methods like this though.

[lyric hatch]

Can almost get an extra 240W out of a 5090

Now that's an upgrade

Just pair that with a high end intel cpu and that's winter sorted

[gentle osprey]

yeah I use my PC to heat my room

and my soul

[balmy vector]

When an avalanche hits just use the [5090 14900K HEAT EXPANSION] technique and youll have no snow by next day on your house

[unkempt lake]

Because there's more than meets the eye

[ashen spindle]

What data type

[unkempt lake]

Yall boring, didn't even laugh at my joke i'm rolling out

smh

[bright briar]

i laughed🥺

at the video not the corny eye joke you made

:p

[unkempt lake]

BUT ITS LITERALLY THE TRANSFORMERS THEME SONG

TRANSFORMERS MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE DUDUDUDUDUDUDUU

[bright briar]

believe me.. i know

[unkempt lake]

Good

If you didn't i'd punish you

[bright briar]

i would post gifs but im on high alert

from mod staff....👀 theyre in the walls

[unkempt lake]

On high alert for what

[bright briar]

i been warned for gif spam.....

it all started since i changed my name to goku black....

sus

[unkempt lake]

👀

[bright briar]

👀

[vapid ruin]

Shouldn't matter much

A lot of people I know uses fp4/q4 and even prefer it for creative/RP usage

[gentle osprey]

im crying lmfao

4 x 5090s at the Illinois Micro Center

my location

at least we beat 4

lmfao

[unkempt lake]

Lmao

because AI

[gentle osprey]

been laughing so hard

they tryna sell them 5080s forsure

[cunning charm]

u camping it out?

[gentle osprey]

nah

and if I was

I'd be leaving right now

[cunning charm]

lol

[gentle osprey]

the line at my location is about 100 people

and only 10 5090s available

[cunning charm]

damnnnnn

[unkempt lake]

You're documenting wild animals

[gentle osprey]

lol feels like it

Nvidia got them out of their natural habitats

out in the wild

[unkempt lake]

It's a psyop

[magic minnow]

wtf lmao

[gentle osprey]

kinda funny is I guessed there'd be exactly 100 gpus total at my location and its 101

I was spot on basically lol

[magic minnow]

did you get a voucher?

[gentle osprey]

Nah Im not there

just observing my cities chat in the unofficial micro center discord

[magic minnow]

They really wanna push that shit 5080 before they launch the super huh

[gentle osprey]

yeah they have a ton of 5080s lol

[magic minnow]

[cunning charm]

lol

i havent even been keeping up with all the videos on em or whatever been said in here

just saw a vid on youtube and comments all said 50 series not worth it

[gentle osprey]

basically

super hyped up under hype generation

at least the designs are kinda nice

imo over last gen

[magic minnow]

What card should I get for 2k gaming?

For my little brother

[gentle osprey]

9070XT

[magic minnow]

Techradar says this one

[gentle osprey]

Lol yeah

the SFF size from Nvidia was probs the best thing from 50 series

[gentle osprey]

I always lowkey recommend this but people get put off by it

but imo the GRE is super solid

[magic minnow]

what about this one?

[cunning charm]

wouldnt a 5070 be good enough for 2k

[gentle osprey]

Thats good too

[magic minnow]

ok it's 790$

[upper imp]

Random question would these work on a Wooting 80HE DE-ISO would the RGB work? https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-shadow-international-keycap-set/

[cunning charm]

doesnt it drop soon though

ahh gotcha

[gentle osprey]

I mean I'd wait on 5070 and 9070XT benchmarks before making a decision but likely, the last gen cards will be better options

[cunning charm]

i havent been following

[cunning charm]

ahh gotcha

[gentle osprey]

just based on what we've seen so far

9070XT might be solid

[magic minnow]

I'm so scared of trusting AMD gpus I've been brainwashed by nvidia

[gentle osprey]

esp if it beats 5070 at $499

[cunning charm]

499????

[gentle osprey]

yeah

thats my speculation price

[cunning charm]

so amd gpu are cheaper? i never looked into em lol

[gentle osprey]

the classic $50 cut

[gentle osprey]

yeah typically

while offering more vram

and sometimes better raster

but worse RT

and then FSR vs DLSS

[cunning charm]

ahh gotcha

[magic minnow]

so between the 2 cards I posted which one do you recommend ;-;?

[gentle osprey]

^

[magic minnow]

There's a used one on amazon for 622$

the gre

[distant tapir]

umu

[magic minnow]

7900 XT Red Devil 😮

[gentle osprey]

Id just get XT at that point

basically same price and more VRAM

[magic minnow]

hellhound or red devil

[gentle osprey]

preference really

Id probs get red devil

[magic minnow]

okok

red devil only 40$ more

[distant tapir]

[magic minnow]

debating if I should get an aio for my 7800 >...> as well

9800*

[distant tapir]

No need

But I went for that as well

[gentle osprey]

yeah I personally don't like the clear plastic fans on the hellhound

[distant tapir]

I boat a Liquid Freezer III 240 for my 9800X3D

[gentle osprey]

lol why

[distant tapir]

It looks cool and is pretty cheap

[gentle osprey]

yeah I mean its good

and good price

[magic minnow]

idk if I need to repaste or what

idk when it hit 90c

[gentle osprey]

probs when you booted something up

like a game or program

[magic minnow]

mmmmm

[magic minnow]

gonna get the liquid freezer 3 as well

yeh!

[cunning charm]

those numbers high sheesh

[gentle osprey]

what cooler you have on it ?

[cunning charm]

do u feel the pump running

[distant tapir]

Yarp

[gentle osprey]

these idle temps or you running stuff?

[magic minnow]

I was just playing Marvel rivals

[magic minnow]

these are idle though

not playing anything right now

2k ultrawide

[cunning charm]

thats hot

whats your pc case like

[magic minnow]

yes

[cunning charm]

u have tempered glass ?

[magic minnow]

full mesh

[cunning charm]

yeah u needa do something about that

[gentle osprey]

have you tried running cinebench or anything with it?

[cunning charm]

my cpu in idle just browsing stays at like 30-35

[magic minnow]

let me repaste then

[gentle osprey]

you also using 9800x3d??

[magic minnow]

I'll be back

[magic minnow]

nu

[cunning charm]

i7 14700kf

[magic minnow]

Can I do wukong benchmark?;-;

[cunning charm]

intel runs hotter than amd

[gentle osprey]

oh then not comparable

nah the new amd chips run warmer at idle

the intel chips run cooler at idle

[cunning charm]

everywhere i seen they say amd runs cooler

[gentle osprey]

yeah under load

[cunning charm]

interesting

[gentle osprey]

not at idle

[cunning charm]

even under load i dont go over 65

[gentle osprey]

yeah around the 40s C is fine for the X3D chips

at idle

thats normal

[magic minnow]

Mmmm I might swap away from an aircooler

:c back to Aio

[cunning charm]

just dont do nzxt lol

[magic minnow]

It's a thermalright give me a sec

[cunning charm]

i tried them and 2 of them went up in smoke just from turning them on 😂

[magic minnow]

thermalright peerless assassin 120

I'll repaste then

It might have been me

I was using this on the 7950x3d so no plastic to remove :c

yeh before I swapped

brb

I cleaned it and reapplied fresh paste

Maybe I didn’t tighten enough

[gentle osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Microcenter/comments/1idbbba/50_series_stock_announcement/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[magic minnow]

I’m gonna order a Nhd15 just in case

[gentle osprey]

damn the Tustin location has 67x 5090s

they got a lot

and 199 x 5080s

they done stole the whole truck

[magic minnow]

Idk if I should order a new air cooler

I’m scared

[gentle osprey]

hell yeah

this for you or brother?

[magic minnow]

For my little brother

Since I have a 4090

[gentle osprey]

ah okay

[lyric hatch]

Damn it

[magic minnow]

I’ll skip the 5090 for now

[gentle osprey]

yeah this is a pretty easy skip imo, ima get one but like I said earlier, only because I can likely get it at no extra cost or minimal extra cost

[distant tapir]

Is it good? How much does it cost?

[magic minnow]

It was around 780$ before tax which is retail I believe since Amazon was selling it and the peeps in here said it was good

[distant tapir]

Ah, kewl

Too xpensive for me

[gentle osprey]

kinda forgot to ask, were hellhound and red devil the only models you were willing to get?

could've technically got cheaper model

like the XFX or Sapphires

[balmy vector]

Xfx are so pretty

[gentle osprey]

yeah I really like those

[magic minnow]

Oh just went with the 2 cool name sounding ones lol

[balmy vector]

Also can the 50 series driver officially drop now pls im begging

[magic minnow]

Should I have chosen a different one?

I just want cool temps