🔌│tech

[gentle osprey]

either way

[analog sinew]

i'm honestly scared devs are gonna make multiframegen mandatory xD

[gentle osprey]

Nah

[analog sinew]

idk i just want a top of the line thing for once but the 5080 isnt lookin that cool

but at the same time it is newer gen

but it doesnt sit right with me either

fucking nvidia

[gentle osprey]

If you want something you likely won't regret, get the 7900XTX, 4080Super, or 5080

or wait for 5080 Super

[umbral heron]

Good luck with getting 5080 now, every single one will be scalped
And it'll be somewhere near 1200€ in EU anyway

[analog sinew]

i would but i dunno if playing the waiting game again is the way

[gentle osprey]

Idk im more optimistic, everyone got ptsd from covid years but we'll see

I'm happy to be wrong

also a strong believer in manifestation and if I want something, I'll have it

[analog sinew]

super hopium is one thing but i dont rly wanna sit on old gpu for that long. frels wasteful of the rest of the system. but then again The 5080 doesnt seem that good

mehh i hate this

maybe i wait for benchmarks today

[gentle osprey]

how long you been using the 2070?

[analog sinew]

6 years

[gentle osprey]

not like using it any longer will hurt

[analog sinew]

yeah but i'm already major gaming slumping and wilds is the only game im really lookin forward to

soo it just feels like the pc is wasted if i dont grab a card soon

[vapid ruin]

When 1 insane AI hobbyist does it

[gentle osprey]

Well I'm not saying don't grab a card, I'm just saying maybe be patient and see how things turn out on launch

plus the more patient, the more money you may have saved up for something better

[analog sinew]

i just dont know myself,i always have bad buying anxiety and these gpus aint helpin ^^

[gentle osprey]

just use this lol

no 5080 yet tho

[analog sinew]

5090 at 2000 :D

[gentle osprey]

yeah if you can get one at that price lol

[lyric hatch]

yeah GL with that, seems like FE are the only cards at that price and there ain't much to go around

[gentle osprey]

10 GPUs per country

[gentle osprey]

tbf the 5080 could end up being better over time

like Steve says at the end of the 5090 review video the 5090 in some cases is 40-50% faster than the 4090 and believes it'll increase as drivers and optimization come out

Yeah I've heard, apparently my location isn't allowing campers and from what I've seen/heard doesn't have any campers outside so far

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-tom-holland-yoink-gif-11346283

[wraith stirrup]

Im going from a 3050 laptop to a 5090 desktop

My monitor comes today also but a little bit later

[gentle osprey]

which monitor?

[wraith stirrup]

Its the asus 540 hz but im getting a 4k 60 hz monitor also for single player games

[gentle osprey]

feel like you should get higher than 60hz

like at least 120 or more

[wraith stirrup]

I can check and see if I find one for a good price

[gentle osprey]

yeah if you find one for a good price

[wraith stirrup]

I found a 4k 60 hz 32 inch for 410 usd is that a gold deal?

Good*

Damn

4k?

What model since im getting eu tax untop of that

I will check it out now

The monitor you have is 730 usd for me

There are non for sale sadly🙁

I might be able to buy it if the 5090 does not cost way too much

Ah ok

Should I just get a 120 hz then

I just found a 44 inch 4k 60 hz for like 500 usd

I meant 120

Hz

Its this one LC-Power LC-M44-DFHD-120 44" Ultrawide Gaming IPS

Is that a good monitor?

I have a big desk

Nvm they lied to me it was just 1080p but extremly wide

I legit searched 4k 120 hz

Ok

I found a 32 inch for around 500 usd and its 144 hz

GIGABYTE M32U

Im gonna keep searching

I have the ASUS ROG Swift Pro PG248QP rn so im good for now

Im gonna either buy an msi 5090 or the astral

Oled is very expensive no?

If I have enough left for a oled after i have bought everything i might consider it

[gentle osprey]

waiting for this

[wraith stirrup]

Extra wide

[wraith stirrup]

I would never buy a bendable monitor im scared i would break it the first day

[gentle osprey]

waiting for reviews from Monitors Unboxed when it launches in April

[gentle osprey]

this one bends on its own

not like the janky corsair one

that you have to do yourself

[wraith stirrup]

Tf how?

[gentle osprey]

motorized

[wraith stirrup]

Cool

[wraith stirrup]

My monitor costed me 1000 usd with shipping

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/JSdT_t3EfpE?si=mlNGhAu1Z2JPIbtj

[wraith stirrup]

That monitor is gonna be insane with forza ngl

[gentle osprey]

better have like 4 year warranty on the motor lol

Yeah seems solid

[wraith stirrup]

How much does a 9800x3d cost for you guys?

Damn

Thats cheap

Mine was 620

Sometimes i wish i lived in the USA

[reef patrol]

615USD with tax.

[wraith stirrup]

Eu taxes are not nice

[reef patrol]

Oh but they are - Because we have (mostly) functioning countries.

https://tenor.com/view/german-tuba-music-horn-bill-murray-gif-15356878

[wraith stirrup]

Anyway i gtg to school now

Ty

[oblique solstice]

guys any1 here own a Finalmouse ULX?

[wispy delta]

https://x.com/finalmouse/status/1884456603224776935?s=46&t=kOyZPJo4T0IjGpmVT4AWu
watcha guys think?

Finalmouse (@finalmouse) on X

Introducing Centerpiece Pro

X · Jan 29, 2025, 4:20 AM

[reef patrol]

I'll believe it when I see it 😄

[modern cape]

Is it June already?

[analog sinew]

:c

maybe i should buy the xtx...

[umbral heron]

Get XTX or 4080S and be happy

[analog sinew]

i guess

maybe 60 series then

nitro+ for 1010€ ?

[ashen spindle]

rdna4 in march looking better and better for consumers, with stock being there and lunar new year meaning the 20 5090s nvidia have wont be restocked till march either lol

[vapid ruin]

WAOW

[analog sinew]

true rdna4

urgh

this is all such a circus lol

[wraith stirrup]

I heard the 9070 is gonna cost 900$

[umbral heron]

That was only one leak, and even then not sure if legitimate

[raw zephyr]

starts at “just” $350 😅

[wispy delta]

True. The 80he from wooting is 200$+ for an extra 150$ not bad..

[ashen spindle]

It won’t and it never was planned to cost that much

[umbral heron]

Still, finalmeme

[vapid ruin]

That's like TTC POM kind of money, and you actually get a bit more performance with TTC (although maybe barely noticable)

[analog sinew]

i will just not game and live in the mountains

[marsh glade]

Build a cave base

[fair gull]

you know they havent even released the non pro right

[umbral heron]

There isn't non-pro one
It's clear that it's for professionals only

[slate solar]

How long you think production gonna be LOL

then again it’s final mouse, QC gonna be interesting

[jaunty rose]

Dlss 4 drops tomorrow!!!! Pretty excited :D

[leaden kiln]

I have a ulx pro

[fair gull]

yeah now after over half a year of the centerpiece "dropping" in june or what it was

like i respect their hustle but their artifically limited supply for their mice is already kinda a clown show and now this

[cursive summit]

I saw an incredible comment about this

AMD: We will not participate in high end
Nvidia: well we will not release any good products so your mid end will compete with our high end!
AMD: Wait, what

[ashen spindle]

??? That makes no sense

[cursive summit]

Depending on what happens with 9070XT, it could directly compete with 5080

Which is just nuts that Nvidia dropped the ball that hard on Blackwell

Blackwell really is disappointing eh

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-reportedly-preparing-nuc-with-ryzen-ai-max-395-strix-halo-apu

Hell yeah Halo NUCs

[steady sail]

I mean with that knowledge i think nvidia gonna drop a Super or Ti variant in the near future

[ashen spindle]

In a year maybe as they usually do

[cursive summit]

So Nvidia release a shit gen only to partially fix it with a midlife refresh and make the generation seem a tiny bit better than it actually is?

[steady sail]

Yes

[cursive summit]

Seems fair

[spiral island]

That does seem likely

[steady sail]

And charge u 1500$

[cursive summit]

They did it with 40 series so yeah, that's perfectly reasonable

[spiral island]

Remember: you don't have to buy

[cursive summit]

I'm never going to buy Nvidia with the bs that they are pulling

Hoping that 9070XT competes with 4080S and is 500$

RX 5700 still pulling its weight but can use an upgrade by now

[rough osprey]

i will

[steady sail]

I mean the numbers are doesnt add up at all

Like the 4070 Ti Super is gonna be a beast against the 5070/ti

[cursive summit]

5070Ti from raw specs is looking to be the best positioned card I think

[spiral island]

I haven't dug in - are the 50s on the same process node as the 40s?

[cursive summit]

It got a decent CUDA uplift

5070 is going to be faster than RTX 4090 though, trust

[ashen spindle]

Basically yes

[cursive summit]

Same TSMC node, basically same architecture too from what it looks like lol

The most they did is just add some extra CUDA cores and slap on more TDP

And that's literally what they did since 5080 is 60W over 4080 and a few extra cores = up to 10% uplift

[spiral island]

Thanks

[rough osprey]

atleast they made it cheaper

[steady sail]

That 4080 for 760$ looking like a great deal

[cursive summit]

If AMD gives me a 4080 equivalent for less than 600$ I'll nut

But AMD never ever misses an opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot

[rough osprey]

used?

[steady sail]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

Ooh finally, we got a numbers joke for Nvidia, from Zen 5% to RTX 50 8.0%

[rough osprey]

damn used 4090 still expensive af

[spiral island]

Still a really good card

But wow, yeah, looks like used 4090s are still going for near MSRP

[wispy delta]

Yep at that point might as well by a 5000 series.

[cursive summit]

No?

[umbral heron]

4080/S
Not really a difference over 5080 and still gets DLSS4 and all that fluff

[spiral island]

Not the multi frame generation, if that matters

[wispy delta]

15% better performance😏

[cursive summit]

I'm seeing a 4090 for 1,601.01€ rn

[umbral heron]

8.3%

[cursive summit]

Yeah I'll defo go out of my way to spend a full grand extra for a 5090

[rough osprey]

big gaps there

[cursive summit]

1,601.01€ for 4090 is unironically also killing off RTX 5080, local suppliers are saying it's going to be 1500€ and up depending on model

Nvidia really fucked up Blackwell

[rough osprey]

5080 ~1170 4090 used ~1500

[umbral heron]

FE maybe will be for ~1200
AIBs... yeah, 1500€ it may be

[cursive summit]

That's what local suppliers are saying, they're getting 5080s in February and it'll be 1500 minimum

[rough osprey]

FE best

[cursive summit]

Why the fuck would I buy a 5080 when for 100 more I can get a far better 4090?

Nvidia, wat doink?

[steady sail]

bc no 4x frame gen

oh wait

[cursive summit]

20x frame gen with Lossless Scaling

[steady sail]

i mean i dont really use frame gen i tried it its okay but i dont need it

[wispy delta]

Damn sounds like the 5080 ain’t worth the buy?

[cursive summit]

What card do you have right now

[wispy delta]

3080

[umbral heron]

I wan

[cursive summit]

You'll be fine for another gen I'd say

[balmy vector]

Steel legend gpu

[cursive summit]

Like, you'd have very noticeable improvements if you do buy a 5080

But 3080 can still run games at 1440p

[umbral heron]

B580

[cursive summit]

Want or won?

[oblique solstice]

where did u get it? and where can i buy one

the ULX is what im aiming for

[rough osprey]

used market or wait for another drop

[leaden kiln]

og ulx? any global or local reselling website I guess

they only release batches of their new mice semi often

[balmy vector]

Finalmouse

[steady sail]

oh nyo finalmeme

[balmy vector]

Finalmeme corporation

[magic minnow]

Isn’t the hard part going to be finding a 4090?

[cursive summit]

There's one on sale right now for 1600 flat

[rough osprey]

maybe all the 5090 buyers will be nice and offer them for cheap

[spiral island]

Sorry mine is staying put

[balmy vector]

I ate mine

[rough osprey]

hungry ahh

[magic minnow]

[wispy delta]

Yeah running at 1440p rn works well.

[umbral heron]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/alibaba-releases-ai-model-it-claims-surpasses-deepseek-v3-2025-01-29/

[cursive summit]

Yeah then you can just sit tight until next gen

No real need for you to upgrade yet

I play games at 1440p with a far worse GPU than yours

[wispy delta]

True.. but if I have an opportunity to buy a 5080 & 5090 I might.

[cursive summit]

Well if you have disposable income, who's stopping you

Do whatever the hell you want, world's your oyster

Until you eat an old one and get oyster poisoning but whatever

[rough osprey]

more fps - more happiness

[oblique solstice]

really??

i mean ULX or the comp version too, any ULX tbh, but reselling is expensive plus for it to ship to my country from ebay id pay 3x the price of the mouse xd

way too dumb tbh

[rough osprey]

rip

[rain quiver]

Yes

[oblique solstice]

its 189 base price right? id pay around 350 with taxes and import...

[leaden kiln]

I meant if you want specifically the original you gotta buy used, otherwise wait for a drop

[oblique solstice]

ah thats cringe

[leaden kiln]

I got mine for less than new and for less than it would've cost to buy a wlmouse here

[oblique solstice]

so they only do drops

[rough osprey]

ye

[oblique solstice]

ye fucking eu taxes and import

[rain quiver]

They refund you the import fees

[oblique solstice]

what

is that true?

[rough osprey]

5080 nda

[rain quiver]

Go ask in their server then

[oblique solstice]

im trying but no1 is answering xd

also heard finalmouse QC is terrible

[rough osprey]

where are u in eu

[rain quiver]

I just checked no you didn’t

[oblique solstice]

east eu, thing is my country isnt part of the eu yet

[rough osprey]

its not great but probably fine in the areas you touch when using it

[oblique solstice]

i did

[rain quiver]

My ulx comp doesn’t have any issues

[rain quiver]

You didn’t ask anything about fees stop cappin

[rough osprey]

and yall got none on local used platforms?

[oblique solstice]

not fees but asked where i can buy one IN GENERAL sheesh xd

in my country no cuz its a shithole

id have to pay a fortune to get it here

[rain quiver]

Unless you buy it from them

[umbral heron]

[oblique solstice]

i checked the site everything is off-sale and not in stock

[rain quiver]

Gotta wait until they announce a new batch

[oblique solstice]

the ULX comp is not available

[rain quiver]

Last one was January 7th you missed out

[oblique solstice]

i wanted that one

[rain quiver]

Comp is never coming back

That was in october

[oblique solstice]

ggwp

[rough osprey]

they gonna make ultra pro super mega edition soon with a slightly different color

[oblique solstice]

thats cuz i just recently started looking for mice couple of days ago

[oblique solstice]

ofc i missed it xd

[balmy vector]

Finalmouse gonna make their next totally a constant production, trust

[rain quiver]

Innovation

[bronze vessel]

RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7k4XWg-TcA

[cursive summit]

+8% but sure whatever you say

[rain quiver]

Is there anything special about the keyboard they announced

[rough osprey]

screen

[rain quiver]

Like spec wise

[balmy vector]

Hall effect

“Better than hall effect”

Its just hall effect

[rough osprey]

how could there

[rain quiver]

Damn

[rain quiver]

Idk the owner kept talking about how great it is and all that

And that it doesn’t have switches or something

[balmy vector]

Because its a hype beast company

[rough osprey]

the switches and keycaps are like all in one

[rain quiver]

Is that good

[rough osprey]

it probably makes the screen look better

[rain quiver]

Im obviously not buying that shit i just got my wooting this month

Too flashy

And i dont wanna be the test subject

[rough osprey]

no one has one so

[rain quiver]

Plus its probably gonna take a year to deliver

I mean i held off from buying 5 ulx batches so i get a better quality one

And im glad i did cuz my comp is nice

[balmy vector]

But finalboy signature on box

[rain quiver]

Yeah he can have fun signing 18k boxes

It aint special if everyone has one

[balmy vector]

Doubt he actually will, just digitally signed lol

[rough osprey]

i wish i could use the shape

[sudden imp]

Radeon might clutch this gen.. 🙏

[rain quiver]

You probably right knowing their shady practices

[rain quiver]

For 3d printing or what

[rough osprey]

nah i had one but i didnt like it

[leaden kiln]

the centerpiece is kinda cool I would maybe get from the second batch if I see some reviews

[rough osprey]

its lowkey reasonably priced

[leaden kiln]

yeah if it's actually decent I don't think the price is that bad
could've been a lot more

[rain quiver]

Is it tho

Its like $70 more than a zinc alloy 80he and the centerpiece prolly doesnt come with any accessories just bare minimum since FM loves doing that

Its also gonna have horrible quality and you need to buy a mouse to be eligible to buy the keyboard

Or the code of the mouse which goes for an extra $70-$100

[leaden kiln]

I thought first batch was for people with codes and then one more batch for anyone, maybe they changed that though, wouldn't put it past them

[rain quiver]

They made over a dozen different mice and they still can barely get the quality right even tho they sell limited quantities (10k) units and mice are their specialty

So imagine 18k units of a keyboard

[rough osprey]

but its a unique product with no competition

[oblique solstice]

so the ulx comp wont be coming back at all

whats the 2nd best option then? the og ulx

[rough osprey]

its just different colors

[leaden kiln]

not with that name, the prophecy or whatever is basically the same mouse and that was the most recent drop

[rough osprey]

pick one you like

[rain quiver]

Thats the only reason their stuff sells

[oblique solstice]

oh sweet

ok ill check when it drops cuz it doesnt say shit on their site

[rough osprey]

oh and some have full sides

[rain quiver]

Nope the raw carbon is never coming back

[oblique solstice]

it just says out of stock all of them or not available

[rain quiver]

Best option is to wait for a new batch

[oblique solstice]

its a shame cuz i liked that one, i hate color so black looked cool

[rain quiver]

Yeah its their best looking ulx

[oblique solstice]

plus it didnt have holes on the sides

[rain quiver]

Yeah they got rid of those for good now

[oblique solstice]

oh well unlucky, when is the batch? do u know

[rain quiver]

You shoulda bought a prophecy

[rough osprey]

isnt that how a market works

[rain quiver]

No one knows

[oblique solstice]

lol so no1 knows yet

and they dont do constant production

what a meme

[rain quiver]

I mean they make a batch every 3 months thats not bad

[oblique solstice]

how? when i had only learned 2 days ago

[rain quiver]

You just missed out

[rain quiver]

Shoulda looked it up idk

[oblique solstice]

well thats just unfortunate tho it aint my fault

[rain quiver]

Okay its my fault you missed out then

[oblique solstice]

no obv not

[rough osprey]

ye why didnt u tell him

[oblique solstice]

just saying, i legit STARTED looking for mice 2 days ago and only learned they exist at the same time

[rain quiver]

I forgot my bad

[oblique solstice]

u shouldve told me bro

[rough osprey]

there are a lot of options

[rain quiver]

Nah but FM is different cause their brand lives off of FOMO

[oblique solstice]

whats fomo

[rain quiver]

Fear of missing out

[oblique solstice]

oh naaah thats gay

i couldnt care less i jsut want a new mouse

[rain quiver]

They’ll tell you its limited quantities, its never coming back, its better than ever etc

So you run to their website and buy

[oblique solstice]

i have gpx2 maya x

[rough osprey]

why do u want a fm

[oblique solstice]

cuz they make a lightweight small symm mouse, what i need

[rain quiver]

Dont get me wrong i hate the company but i think their designs are cool

[oblique solstice]

for my gripstyle

i used a lot of mice and always liked smaller ones

[rain quiver]

Thats why i waited so long to buy until they fixed most of their QC issues

[oblique solstice]

so im looking for the perfect small wireless fingertip mouse and fm made one, other options are lamzu ig

[cursive summit]

What do you mean by that

[rough osprey]

bottom plate and shell still not that secure 😬

[rain quiver]

Idk about that my ulx comp has been fine

And I haven’t seen many people complain about the comp in their server

But the first few ulx batches? Nightmare

[rough osprey]

mine had a lot of movement there if u press on it

[rain quiver]

You have a comp?

[rough osprey]

had

[rain quiver]

I’d send it back ngl

You sold it or what

[rough osprey]

i bought a used one for like a week and sold it again for same price

[rain quiver]

How much you buy it for

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/nShh_j4s2YE

[rough osprey]

like 230€

[rain quiver]

Damn not bad

I got a lot of cleaning to do today im definitely not looking forward to that

[cursive summit]

GN also finds the XTX, 4080 and 5080 within 10% of eachother lel

[oblique solstice]

people are selling them for 250 usd shipping included on ebay

ulx comps

[rain quiver]

Yeah thats good

[oblique solstice]

i mean i could buy that but it seems kinda too much

given it costs 190 from FM

costed* mb

[rain quiver]

Yeah plus taxes plus shipping

Plus the fact that you cant buy em anymore

$250 isnt bad

[oblique solstice]

didnt u say they refund u for taxes?

FM themselves

[rain quiver]

I said import/customs fees

[rough osprey]

and something like wlmouse aint for you?

[rain quiver]

Not sales tax

[oblique solstice]

oh myu bad import fees

well if thats true its better to wait for a batch and buy from them no?

itd cost me way way less

[rain quiver]

Thats what i told you

[oblique solstice]

i checked out wlmouse too actually but cant find it anywhere as well, hard to buy

[rain quiver]

Just wait

[reef patrol]

Welp. Guess I'm getting a used 4080 Super then.

[oblique solstice]

ill take ur advice troya 🙂

u seem like u know ur shit

[reef patrol]

Or an AMD card. What a time to live in.

[rain quiver]

Idk what you mean

[oblique solstice]

i mean what i said

[rain quiver]

If you find one for cheap

[reef patrol]

No such thing.

[rain quiver]

I just sold mine a few days ago for $1k

[oblique solstice]

mansen i got a used 4070ti super a week ago

[rain quiver]

And im still surprised about that

[oblique solstice]

dont fall into the pit of lies of greedivia

[rain quiver]

I was 100% ready to lose money on it

[oblique solstice]

40 series will be fine for another 3 years

[vagrant pagoda]

They are under 1k new lol

[rain quiver]

Which 40 series tho

[oblique solstice]

4070+ easilyyy

[rain quiver]

Where? Also she wanted a FE i guess

[reef patrol]

Since the 5080 didn't push any boundaries, then the 4000 series will indeed continue living. Unfortunately I am on a 3080 😄

[oblique solstice]

3080 is more than enough

amazing card id use it still if i were u tbh, 1080p and 2k

[reef patrol]

No. No it is not.

[rain quiver]

I mean it depends on his needs

If he wants to upgrade then it aint enough obv

[oblique solstice]

i bet u it runs train on 1080p still.

[vagrant pagoda]

3080 to a 4080s is a good upgrade

[rain quiver]

Yeah most people wish they could have a 3080

[vagrant pagoda]

Especially at $950

[oblique solstice]

u have ppl gaming on 2080s still btw

[reef patrol]

Good for them. I need more than a 3080 😛

[oblique solstice]

well ofc if thats what u want then sure

[rain quiver]

He could just yoink a used 4080 off hardware swap for $800

[oblique solstice]

u wont mess up either way, 4080s is a beast

[oblique solstice]

i paid more than that for a 4070tiS in my country imagine that

[rain quiver]

But i need to know where did you find new 4080 supers for less than $1000

@vagrant pagoda

[rain quiver]

Yeah sad some countries just have it rough with pc parts

[vagrant pagoda]

Newegg

[oblique solstice]

and we earn way less than the avg american, so a gpu costs 2x ur monthly salary...

[rain quiver]

I dont know pcpp wont show any of them

[oblique solstice]

even more in some cases

[wispy delta]

Yep same 3080 gang

[oblique solstice]

so troya ud suggest i wait for a ulx drop and instantly order it?

[rain quiver]

Cap

I filtered $750-$1000

[vagrant pagoda]

Lightly there's tons of people are buying them right now because how disappointing the 50 is

[rain quiver]

If you like whatever colorway they make next yeah

Or if you find a new one for a decent price (locally)

[oblique solstice]

idc about colors so ig thats cool

[rain quiver]

Decent price as in $250 usd or less

[oblique solstice]

locally that wont happen it doesnt exist, or id have to pay 1million usd

[rain quiver]

Assuming it aint some old version

[oblique solstice]

ye okay makes sense, thank you!

[balmy vector]

Or buy from a more respectable brand

[rain quiver]

That works too if ur not like me

[oblique solstice]

mice manufacturers and respect xddd

[rain quiver]

I wanted one of their designs really bad

[oblique solstice]

i hated logitech viper, only ones i liked are lamzu tbf

[rain quiver]

Which cost me a wait of over one year until they got the QC right

[oblique solstice]

ye i heard Finalmeme has issues with qc but i hope itd be fine by now

[rough osprey]

pulsar might be goated

[rain quiver]

Only worry if they made a whole new line of mice

But as long as its a ulx you’ll be fine quality wise

Unless you’re unlucky then you just send it back

[oblique solstice]

exactly

ill just wait for a ulx and pray its not e-trash

and buy directly from their site and not some random scalper

[rough osprey]

https://fixupx.com/pseudoku3/status/1884408837664387293?s=46

best mouse

[spiral island]

Is that a torture device?

[rain quiver]

Shit looks like a space probe

[oblique solstice]

wtf hjahahahahahhahaa

whats that hovercar in star wars called

[sharp badger]

White SFF Gigabyte card is 340€ more lol

[pale sigil]

So disappointing

[sharp badger]

Both the 80 and 90 series have some that are close to FE prices

[rough osprey]

any below fe yet?

[sharp badger]

But having the 5090 Rog Strix being 764€ more just feels meh

[rough osprey]

lowkey how they even getting this prices, the fe looks much more expensive haha

[sharp badger]

Haven't found any lower

[rough osprey]

2329€ here

[sharp badger]

Some at same FE price here

[steady sail]

u guys have access to 50 series

[digital cliff]

yeah you just go online and buy it

🤨

[rough osprey]

we got 11800x3d too

[steady sail]

uhm where xD

[sharp badger]

I'd rather buy the 5090 than the 5080 now lol

[digital cliff]

www.google.com

[sharp badger]

IF i'd buy a new card

[pale sigil]

Did they just come out for sale

Scan crashed

[sharp badger]

Tomorrow

[ashen spindle]

Sale is tomorrow

[rain quiver]

Stalking bestbuy from midnight to 10 am is gonna be annoying

But im ready i slept alot

[ashen spindle]

Gl getting one of three cards on stock lol

[pale sigil]

Scan has crashed lol

[rain quiver]

I have like 8 best buy stores near me so it should be way more than 3

[pale sigil]

It's alive again

[ashen spindle]

If you aren’t at one store that has stock you won’t get in on the next store in time lol

[pale sigil]

Cheap

[rain quiver]

Wdym theyre not selling them in person

Its online only

[ashen spindle]

Oh well then it’s still only 3 since they won’t give one to every location probably xD

[rain quiver]

Idk ima try regardless

Im not gonna bother trying the nvidia website tho

[ashen spindle]

Idk what you mean to stalk them midnight to 10am then if you check online anyway?

[spiral island]

Hm down payment on a house or…

[ashen spindle]

There is one global sales embargo and that’s it

[rain quiver]

Exactly i gotta keep refreshing because no one knows what time the cards will drop

[ashen spindle]

Uhh

[rain quiver]

And they’ll only last seconds so

[ashen spindle]

9am EDT

[rain quiver]

Stalking the website

Says who

Some random redditor or what

[ashen spindle]

Says every single hardware launch for ages they did

[rain quiver]

Is there proof

[ashen spindle]

Also Reviews are up 24 hours before launch and reviews were up at 9

It’s like the same time amd Intel and everyone launches stuff

[cursive summit]

5080 has very little stock from what Overclockers said, more than 5090 but still few

It'll fly off stock in minutes

[spiral island]

https://youtu.be/k7hDtGh0wIo?feature=shared

[ashen spindle]

Like I didn’t even consider it would be any other time than 9 for the review because why would it be lol

[rain quiver]

Idk if i should trust that

I cant miss it so i have to stalk the site like a freak

[ashen spindle]

You do you I’ll have a normal day lol

[rain quiver]

I mean i can still have a normal day

I just have to refresh in 15-30 minute increments

Because i doubt it’ll drop at some odd time like 1:53 am

[ashen spindle]

If your normal day means being up midnight to 9am sure

[rain quiver]

Ill fuck up my schedule for one night idc

I can still do what i normally do

[cursive summit]

Tf does "I can't miss it" even mean, are you a scalper or are you held at gunpoint and forced to buy it?

[rain quiver]

I want it

[cursive summit]

It's a shite card, just buy a 4080S and it's the same card

[rain quiver]

Dont worry about it

[cursive summit]

I mean, you do you but there are a lot of questions lol

[rain quiver]

[reef patrol]

I am suddenly a LOT more curious to see what those secret AMD GPUs locked away in retail warehouses can do 😄

[vagrant pagoda]

Less

[marsh glade]

"We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."

[vagrant pagoda]

9000 is lower spec than the 7900xtx

[cursive summit]

Who knows, it can honestly be competitive with 5080 to worse than 4070Ti depending on what they want it to do

Pricing is what kills that card for me, they better price it right

[vagrant pagoda]

7900xtx id barely competitive with 5080

[rain quiver]

Well at least we know that people still wont buy them

[ashen spindle]

People will buy them lol

[rain quiver]

Like 6 people

[vagrant pagoda]

AMD is eating for 5070 to compete

[ashen spindle]

No a lot more especially if nvidia has like no stock lol

[vagrant pagoda]

Hey maybe they will hit 9!

[reef patrol]

At least now they have a chance to do exactly that I guess. 😄

[unkempt lake]

Wait werent you the guy that bought a 4090 like a week ago

[ashen spindle]

Currently rdna4 shapes up to be a better launch than rdna3 so people will buy it lol

[rain quiver]

How many people will amd fire from their gpu department this year

[rain quiver]

Yes

[vagrant pagoda]

Nvidia likely sells more cards release day than AMD sells totl

[rain quiver]

2 weeks

[ashen spindle]

??????

[vagrant pagoda]

Y'all act like Nvidia has no stock

[unkempt lake]

Wtf are you smoking wanting to buy a 50 series now

[vagrant pagoda]

No they have tons of sales

[rain quiver]

I dont know i have a problem

Plus i can sell the 4090 for more than what i paid for

That made me think

[balmy vector]

lmao what

[ashen spindle]

Yes because we literally have msi and all aib says they basically have no stock and all their 5090 orders will be pre orders

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean if 5080 cost the same as a 4080s, why buy a 4080

[rain quiver]

Also my chances of getting one are low as heck

[vagrant pagoda]

FE

[ashen spindle]

Yeah that’s always low stock as well lol

[vagrant pagoda]

It's not low stock

[rain quiver]

Then people will simply buy a previous gen

[ashen spindle]

We have stores saying they are getting like single digit FE cards for a country

[rain quiver]

Instead of amd

[steady sail]

bc fanboys

[rain quiver]

Yeah ik

[ashen spindle]

Idk what your weird anti-amd obsession is either lol

[rain quiver]

But it still doesn’t change the fact that amd will barely sell

[vagrant pagoda]

That isn't the US

[reef patrol]

If the performance and price is good, that's fine by me. More cards to pick from.

[rain quiver]

I love amd cpus

Im just saying the truth, ppl follow trends and the trend is to love nvidia and hate amd

Numbers prove that

[vagrant pagoda]

Canada is a third world market for Nvidia, Europe 100% is too

[ashen spindle]

Okay so don’t follow a Trend and think for yourself?

[rain quiver]

Say that to the millions of kids who buy nvidia

Not me

[vagrant pagoda]

Nvidia sells by the boat load

[ashen spindle]

Ofc nvidia will sell more but that’s not going to cause anyone at Radeon to lose their job

[digital cliff]

amd is doomed guys, here's green shirts for everyone

[spiral island]

GPU wars having me nostalgic for the console wars

[rain quiver]

Didn’t they fire some of their gpu department last year

[unkempt lake]

I think thinking is hard for him... he wants to buy a 50 series 2 weeks after buying a 4090

[spiral island]

A bit rude

[rain quiver]

Bruh what?? Amd barely selling has nothing to do with me

[ashen spindle]

They closed some locations in other countries yes, they are still hiring more and more each day lol

[rain quiver]

I dont follow trends

[vagrant pagoda]

Just take a look at steam survey some time. AMDs top 7000 card is the 7900xtx.

[rain quiver]

Theyre wrong too thats the best part, because im not the person who’s buying nvidia cause its a trend

[ashen spindle]

I think you really don’t understand that dgpus are amds lowest priority of any market they have lol

[rough osprey]

so much bad press, hope i can get one tomorrow then

[rain quiver]

Same with nvidia and their consumer gpus

[ashen spindle]

They could sell 0 rdna4 gpus and nobody would get fired

[ashen spindle]

Not that’s just stupid to think

[vagrant pagoda]

4090 has 2x the share on steam vs 7900xtx

[rain quiver]

Bruh nvidia barely makes money from gaming gpus compared to everything else lmao

So what you said applies to both amd and nvidia

[ashen spindle]

No it really doesn’t

[rain quiver]

Ok

[vagrant pagoda]

The 7800 and 7900xt are nowhere to be found.

[ashen spindle]

nvidia needs their cards in academic uses and all so people get used to using cuda

all the datacenters that will know how to write cuda can just get hopper/blackwell and use the same code

[spiral island]

Gaming is about 10% of nvidia's revenue compared to data center

[rain quiver]

Well well well

[digital cliff]

as we all know, AI is great for factual questions

[ashen spindle]

holy shit I'm not arguing with someone who uses google ai overview to get "facts"

[spiral island]

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-third-quarter-fiscal-2025

It's about correct

[vagrant pagoda]

All people I know that did big academic with cuda had donated hardware that was just one gen behind

[rain quiver]

Thanks

[vagrant pagoda]

They all had quadro

[ashen spindle]

thats not the problem

the issues is gaming for amd is not dgpu

thats like me comparing amds gaming to nvidias automotive sales

makes no sense

[rain quiver]

I dunno it makes perfect sense

[digital cliff]

how many cars did nvidia sell in 2024

[vagrant pagoda]

AMD is doing much better in laptops and handheld

[rain quiver]

Gaming gpus are clearly more important to amd than it is to nvidia

[ashen spindle]

for amd it includes stuff like console contracts for the apus

[rain quiver]

Yet nvidia dominates

[ashen spindle]

no they are not ffs can you please read

[vagrant pagoda]

Highend dgou isn't their market anymore

[ashen spindle]

gaming for amd is NOT dGPUs

also you're insane to think that nvidia has one year or maybe two soon where gaming is no longer the biggest revenue and that means they no longer need it

whereas for amd data center has been the biggest one since zen

[rain quiver]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/gpu-sales-have-slumped-badly-as-pc-gamers-wait-for-next-gen-amd-and-nvidia-graphics-cards-and-i-dont-blame-them

[digital cliff]

heard it here first, last chance to get an nvidia GPU, they will cease to exist soon

[rain quiver]

Insane difference even tho nvidia barely cares about gaming gpus

[vagrant pagoda]

Eypc or Radeon?

[ashen spindle]

instinct and epyc are both under data center

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but they are still different teams

[ashen spindle]

yeah but thats not relevant to the argument at hand

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean it is for GPUs, eypc is doing well, Radeon DC isn't

[ashen spindle]

of these .5B in income most of that is from console sales

?? instinct with mi300 is their fastest growing sales ever

yes epyc has much higher margins because its cheaper to product

that doesnt mean instinct isnt doing well lol

[spiral island]

What exactly is being argued at the moment?

I'm afraid I've lost the plot

[rain quiver]

I dont know anymore thats why im getting ready to shower

[rain quiver]

All i know is that this applies to both nvidia and amd

Anything else is irrelevant

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but I'm willing to bet most if not all of that success is just Nvidias high pricing

[ashen spindle]

the point is that this post he made makes 0 sense

[vagrant pagoda]

When the bubble pops eypc will still sell

[rain quiver]

No their success when it comes to gaming gpus is cuz of word of mouth

Ppl always hate on amd and ride nvidia thats why

[ashen spindle]

okay but that doesnt matter to your point that amd would fire anyone for low sales when they expect low sales

and for nvidia gaming is still EASILY #2

[rain quiver]

All i did was ask how many will they fire this year? What does that have to do with anything

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah amd is knowm for keeping talent

[rain quiver]

Ultimate strawmanning

[ashen spindle]

and I'm saying why would they fire anyone for what seems to be a better working uarch than rdna3

[rain quiver]

And then i said “didnt they fire people from their gpu department last year?”

[vagrant pagoda]

Also you know how hard that talent is to find

[rain quiver]

So again what does that have to do with anything lmao i was just asking

[vagrant pagoda]

Both amd and Nvidia are ran by engineers for a reason

[ashen spindle]

because that clearly implies something because you wouldnt ask how many are nvidia firing before the 50 series launch even though this generation is underwhelming as fuck?

[rain quiver]

Also why did they give up on competing at the high end level i wonder

[ashen spindle]

TTM

[rain quiver]

Well nvidia are doing good when it comes to gaming gpus so why would i ask

[vagrant pagoda]

Low margin

[rain quiver]

Even this shitty gen will do good

[steady sail]

bc amd cant create a Titan Class card like what nvidia did

and no point in it

[ashen spindle]

you can afford having a lower selling year or two, you cant afford to delay a gpu ip generation that both console manufacturers use be delayed evena bit to get some sales in a low margin halo tier that not many will buy

[rain quiver]

Im talking about gaming gpus

[vagrant pagoda]

In nvidias best-selling cards are 60 series

[steady sail]

and u think the 90 class GPU's arent Titans?

[vagrant pagoda]

Not 90 or 80

[vagrant pagoda]

They arent

Titan is full die

[steady sail]

They are the titans

[rain quiver]

Anyway this is getting way off topic i wasn’t even talking about any of this

[vagrant pagoda]

3090, 4090 are cut down

[rain quiver]

All i said was this and its true

[vagrant pagoda]

Titan is full die with 1/2 vram

[ashen spindle]

no this is demonstrably false

i literally showed you the revenue stream from both companies

[steady sail]

i mean its not like nvidia doesnt firing ppl

[rain quiver]

So? What you sent doesn’t mean that gaming gpus are a high priority for nvidia

[digital cliff]

then what does

[rain quiver]

Nothing because gaming gpus arent a high priority for nvidia

[steady sail]

nvidia main is Data Center, but 2nd is Gaming to this day

[rain quiver]

Because they barely make money off it

[digital cliff]

so just your opinion, gotcha

no you were just shown it's the second largest segment they have

[rain quiver]

I already sent screenshots and links

[ashen spindle]

for nvidia gaming is like second highest by a long mile and for amd its like 5th or 6th

[spiral island]

I wouldn't say 10% of net revenue is barely making money

[rain quiver]

They barely make money off it so why would it be a high priority

[steady sail]

idk 2.6 billion is barely to you

[rain quiver]

To them not me

[digital cliff]

so not only are you wrong, you're also doubling down on it and your only counterpoint is "nuh-uh"

[rain quiver]

I already sent proof you just refuse to look at it

[ashen spindle]

so you think it would be smart to abandon a 3 billion market, then ai bubble bursts and data center is back to pre ai days and then they're fine?

[rain quiver]

Why would they abandon it

Idk what you’re talking about, the numbers prove that they barely make money off it

[ashen spindle]

how is this not proof its clearly still second highest priority

[rain quiver]

And if they dont make much then why would it be a high priority

[ashen spindle]

they are making almost 3 BILLION in a quarter

barely make money

[rain quiver]

Yeah thats nothing to them

[cursive summit]

Jesus, 22B in data center per quarter, 4 quarters and that's the current market cap of Intel

[rain quiver]

Numbers dont lie

[digital cliff]

yes but you see, I feel that it isn't a high priority, therefore the numbers don't matter

[cursive summit]

That's insane

[vagrant pagoda]

Wild to think how hard Nvidia works on tegra for it to be that small lol

[rain quiver]

10% of their revenue is from gaming gpus

[spiral island]

Just because it's a smaller slice of their net revenue doesn't mean it's not important to them. It's a source of diversification. As quin mentioned, if the bubble pops they would want their 2nd best revenue generator by a wide margin to still be there.

[rain quiver]

But you wanna act like its a high priority for them

[vagrant pagoda]

260% yoy is diabolical

[ashen spindle]

YES IT IS

[vagrant pagoda]

Most companies would literally commit murder for thet

[steady sail]

BC IT IS

[ashen spindle]

you think because they recently look like this they dont put it as important anymore

[spiral island]

CAPS LOCK

[rain quiver]

Then how come its not important for amd?

[cursive summit]

Are we arguing that gaming GPUs are high priority to Nvidia or data center?

[rain quiver]

Nothing you say is making sense

[vagrant pagoda]

Also if it wasn't a priority why would the CEO even bother showing up in person for it?

[rain quiver]

% wise it should be more important for amd but you claim its not

[ashen spindle]

bcause unlike nvidia, amd is not a gpu company first, they are a cpu company

[cursive summit]

10% of revenue is still a fuck ton of money

[vagrant pagoda]

If it's low priority he wouldn't bother

[ashen spindle]

GAMING IS NOT ONLY DGPU ON AMDS SIDE

[vagrant pagoda]

Man has a lot more things to do with his fancy leather jacket

[ashen spindle]

how many more times do I need to say that

% wise amd is making even less from dgpus than nvidia from automotive sometimes

[rain quiver]

Im talking about gaming gpus

[balmy vector]

Do you like my new jacket?!

[spiral island]

What, like bake it?

[rain quiver]

Yet its a larger percentage than nvidias

[ashen spindle]

yes and gaming gpus is SUPER lower in amds % of revenue

IT IS NOT

[rain quiver]

But somehow nvidia cares and amd doesnt

[vagrant pagoda]

GPU doesn't only mean dgpu

[rain quiver]

Lmaoo

[ashen spindle]

for fucks sake dont argue with google AI numbers as fact

[vagrant pagoda]

AMD igpu is a massive part of their lineup

[rain quiver]

And they still make nothing

But according to him amd doesnt care and nvidia does

[spiral island]

I forget, are they providing for both PS5 and Xbox?

[ashen spindle]

nvidia gaming % = dgpu
amd gaming % = consoles, igpu, dgpu

[gusty kiln]

Wow they really cut down the 5080 too much

[ashen spindle]

yes

[vagrant pagoda]

Also making money isn't the only thing they do XD

[spiral island]

Thanks

[vagrant pagoda]

They also like making good products

100% steam deck was a monetary loss for AMD

But the engineering was well spent

[ashen spindle]

consoles makes amd more money than igpu products and those make more money than dGPUs so yes, obviously gaming gpus are MUCH less important for them

[vagrant pagoda]

As they have made massive improvements to low power performance

[pale sigil]

Who needs raw performance when you have AI

[rain quiver]

Yet all of it combined is less than what nvidia makes

[ashen spindle]

yes thats my point it matter less

for nvidia its Data center >>gaming>>the rest
for amd its instinct >epyc>consoles>apus>cpus>gaming gpus

[rain quiver]

Yeah but compare the numbers to their total revenue and all of a sudden it should be more important for amd than it is for nvidia

Yet you claim the reverse

[ashen spindle]

but it isnt

[rain quiver]

Its numbers

[ashen spindle]

you are looking at the wrong numbers

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/roxxxy-andrews-im-not-good-at-math-i-told-you-why-we-still-mathin-theres-a-lot-of-math-i-thought-the-mathin-was-done-gif-13394857940130773970

[vagrant pagoda]

Has AMD ever separated gaming by market?

[wispy delta]

5080 ain’t worth it no more hahaha

[rain quiver]

Its only worth if you can get it for msrp

Which you wont

[gusty kiln]

Literally 4080 ti

[ashen spindle]

lets look at this again, total revenue is like 7 billion, gaming is consoles first then apus then gpus, so lets say gaming gpus are 0.1 thats like 1% of total revenue

[spiral island]

https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1224/amd-reports-third-quarter-2024-financial-results

[wispy delta]

Yep but you can’t buy 4080 ti’s brand new I don’t think can you ?

[spiral island]

The Gaming segment primarily includes discrete GPUs, and semi-custom SoC products and development services.
Seems like they lump it together

[ashen spindle]

yes they dont break it up thats my point the entire time, the gaming number he got from google isnt even close to how little the dgpus alone are

[spiral island]

Sure, just verifying.

[ashen spindle]

console deals are what kept them alive before zen and its still a big mix

[vagrant pagoda]

Console was down and that was why gaming was down so far

[gusty kiln]

Yes it's called a 5080 lol, only a 4080 super exist

[rain quiver]

So if we dont even have the real numbers then how are you gonna say dgpus arent important to them

[wispy delta]

Can you buy 4080 supers brand new?

[ashen spindle]

I'm literally giving you better odds than it could be to make it easier to compare

[vagrant pagoda]

Wonder if deck is console or under APu?

[rain quiver]

Not worth it get a used one off hardware swap for $800

[gusty kiln]

Yeah there's still a little stock left

[wispy delta]

Price?

[vagrant pagoda]

Go look

[spiral island]

That's a good question 🤔

[ashen spindle]

lets say i would be completely wrong and dgpu would be the same as consoles and apus combined, then you still onyl have like 2-3% for dGPU sales

[spiral island]

I would guess APU but 🤷

[ashen spindle]

likely semi-custom

[wispy delta]

Ehhhh I don’t like buying used gpus, for some reason imo

[ashen spindle]

bc its first reusing the microsoft chip before they got their own 6nm cut down of van gogh

and the first one definitely was under semi-custom

[rain quiver]

This screenshot isnt enough only one quarter and doesn’t even tell you how much they made off dgpus

[ashen spindle]

holy shit then take the entire gaming segment and its still less than nvidia in %

[rain quiver]

So you just going based off assumptions and estimates

[ashen spindle]

I'm literally using assumptions that are impossible to be true if I put 100% of it as dgpus because its multiple markets and you still say its estimates

[vagrant pagoda]

Also it makes any money means they aren't firing

If it turned 10 bucks in profit they would keep it

[ashen spindle]

they need gpu ip for instinct, then for consoles, then for apus then they are at a point where they might as well make dGPUs because the have the IP for it

if they wouldnt make dGPUs they would still make the rest and its the same people

[spiral island]

Surprisingly not true, unfortunately

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean look at AMDs GPU department history then

[ashen spindle]

the only thing they will not do is make halo cards if that would kill margins for no reason

as long as you make 1% margin its worth it

[spiral island]

I'm not picking a fight, I've just been involved in several profitable branches of companies, or seen other profitable branches, where they get cut down

[ashen spindle]

because you do most of the work for other products anyway

[vagrant pagoda]

But not AMD lol

[ashen spindle]

yes but for amd it's true because its massive IP reuse across branches

[spiral island]

Sometimes line not going up fast enough, sometimes other reasons like reallocating to new ventures 🤷

Sure, maybe so, I don't know much about it to be quite honest.

[ashen spindle]

unless amd would quit consoles business and apu business they will keep dGPUs around because its low risk and uses the same IP

[spiral island]

Sure, I do love that reuse strategy they have going on

[ashen spindle]

hence it makes 0 sense that amd would fire anyone for a gpu gen that basically cant be worse than the one we have

[gusty kiln]

Apparently people are starting to run deepseek on dual epyc cpu without any dgpu

[vagrant pagoda]

Good way to run the full model I guess

If you need quality over quantity

Easier to get 200gb of ram than vram

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[distant tapir]

Finally here

[vagrant pagoda]

Probably like 3 tokens a second?

[gusty kiln]

I bet 1tb of ddr4 ecc is cheap

[vagrant pagoda]

Super

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/njfl5YW3Jx

[vagrant pagoda]

8 channel

[gusty kiln]

6-8 apparently

[spiral island]

Nice! Never tried any Audeze, but I've heard good things. Hope you dig it 🙂

[vagrant pagoda]

Damn 8 isn't terrible

But yeah 8 channel makes 512 cheap

[gusty kiln]

Time for more sea shanty 2

[distant tapir]

Damn they sound great. Best sounding headphones I have ever had

[vagrant pagoda]

Would be wild if we go back to blades for cost lol

Wonder if a stack of dual eypc blades competes on price per token/s vs gpus

[spiral island]

What are you coming from?

[distant tapir]

From audiophool trash

[spiral island]

Never heard that word before 😄
Enjoy the tunes 🎧

[vagrant pagoda]

Just tested h100x4 at 30/s

8/s is killer

[gusty kiln]

Like actual ai gpus not gaming gpu?

[gusty kiln]

Damn

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/sEu6k-MdZgc?si=n-PgrFT5-IbWDjPn

STEVE STOP GOING UP

LEVITATION POWERS

[balmy vector]

Steve in his leg day arc

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-jump-levitate-levitating-gif-1084401962356635236

[bright briar]

we as people need to come together and not pay 4k for these gpu

[balmy vector]

Luckily bots arent people

So they’ll buy them

[bright briar]

real life skynet are the ads saying "Create an A.I Girlfriend and keep the convos private"

[spiral island]

Man it really is 4080Ti

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/images/energy-efficiency.png

ask for efficiency and youll get it

but you wont get efficiency and performance at the same time

[wispy delta]

Worth buying the 5080 or 5090 at MSRP?

[severe phoenix]

No

[reef patrol]

If you can't be bothered to skim the numerous review videos, or just skip to their conclusion, you are beyond help 😄

It genuinely can't be provided in a more digestible fashion.

[balmy vector]

Get 6090

[ashen spindle]

Power numbers don’t look that great on some review either so I do not trust tpu necessarily

And even then 9% lol

[wispy delta]

Just watched optimum’s YouTube video 8% performance difference between 5080 to 4080 super🤣

[analog sinew]

yea its pretty sad

[wispy delta]

Well looks like I’m not gonna wake up early and try to buy before scalpers snag 😅

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/images/power-gaming.png

[astral haven]

worse than this?

[ashen spindle]

Hub had it a lot better, gn in f1 had them be basically equal

[wispy delta]

5090 msrp worth it?

[frozen ingot]

[cursive summit]

They really struggle in CS?

I wonder why

[ashen spindle]

Get a 4090 for like half price used or much lower at least and it’s a way better deal

[cursive summit]

Der8auer clocked +17% for 5080

Damn it really depends on settings huh

[unkempt lake]

XTX STRONG

https://tenor.com/view/standing-cat-kitten-gala-irl-stronk-strong-cat-gif-7243367229475960601

[unkempt lake]

Don't pay 4k, Play at 4k instead

[bright briar]

guuuurrlll have you seen these prices😭

[wispy delta]

Not possible to find 4090’s going for well over $2k🥲

[ashen spindle]

Ebay?

[bright briar]

bruh where i live i wont be surprised if the 4090 cost doesnt go down

[wispy delta]

YEAH GG BRO

[spiral island]

Lowst Buy It Now used 4090 on ebay I can find is around MSRP if not higher 😣

[gusty kiln]

Feels like rtx 2000 series all over again

[unkempt lake]

panic sell 10 series
reviews release
OH SHIT HIKE UP THE PRICE

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean 5080 is the same MSRP as 4080s

So wait until it comes out and see what happens to 4080s prices

[vagrant pagoda]

2000 was mining inflated like 3000

4000 is ai inflated

Hopefully the bubble bursts soon

[frozen ingot]

what bubble

we're in this forever

[ashen spindle]

The launch of Turing wasn’t mining inflated though

[frozen ingot]

[ashen spindle]

2080ti was just insanely priced for little gain

[vagrant pagoda]

Not as bad

[unkempt lake]

Pascal was mining inflated

[vagrant pagoda]

You could get 1080 and 1080ti for msrp

[unkempt lake]

After the mining boom

[vagrant pagoda]

Nah at launch

Source I got two

[unkempt lake]

But then the mining boom hapoenned

After

[vagrant pagoda]

The third mining boom

Lol

[unkempt lake]

And calmed down around the 2k series

[vagrant pagoda]

Nah 3000 was mining peak

3090 and 3080 launch were peak mining craz3

But yeah the rise in MSRP followed the craze

Plus the removal of the consumer Titan and adding the 90 series as being cut off single die

[stiff path]

Im keeping my 4000 series card haha

[carmine turret]

Hello, how can you deactivate the Windows key on the left side? I have ISO German layout, thanks ! Keyboard 60he+

[stiff path]

5080

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean generation to generation upgrades have never been good value

[vagrant pagoda]

?

Why would that change

4070 is the top of mid range

[ashen spindle]

Because leaks and rumors put the 9070xt anywhere from 4070 to 5080

And if it were to compete with the xx80 that’s not halo but high end still

[stiff path]

3000 to 4000 was substantial

[ashen spindle]

Still not a good value to upgrade

[stiff path]

Fair

[ashen spindle]

Just better than on average

[stiff path]

I skip a generation

Came from 2000 series

Will wait for 6000

[vagrant pagoda]

Not at the release MSRP

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but 30 series msrp was never really a thing xD

[vagrant pagoda]

Neither was 4080 at launch

[stiff path]

Yeah lol

[vagrant pagoda]

4080 was more than a 3090ti at launch

[stiff path]

I hope this deepseek saga will be karma for nvidia

[vagrant pagoda]

Now the efficiency was amazing

[stiff path]

Then they will give some respect back to gamers again

[vagrant pagoda]

And 5080 is improving again

[ashen spindle]

ehhhh

[stiff path]

That will really help the frames lol

[ashen spindle]

only a tiny bit

[stiff path]

Eco friendly 😂

[stiff path]

/ sar

[halcyon moss]

Looking at the power stats.. Amds are fine

[ashen spindle]

no I mean in some games its really not even a efficency increase

[stiff path]

Got it

[lyric hatch]

Ain't no way 9070xt is reaching 5080 it won't even beat 7900XTX

[ashen spindle]

I mean thats the expectation I have, 7900xt level, with rt basically equivalent to nvidia now

[stiff path]

This AI debacle is hilarious

[ashen spindle]

doesnt stop some people from expecting more xD

[agile plover]

what usb hub is this

[stiff path]

They are saying moores law is dead, but IF there is a large backlash on this 5000 series generation and the possible implosion of the needs of AI cards… then I have a feeling they will find a way to make a large jump on the 6000 series

This cant be good for nvdia

[stiff path]

Total cope agreed

[gusty kiln]

deepseek runing very well on 7900xtx apparently too

[ashen spindle]

just means instead of meta getting 100k orders and companies using llama, you have 100k companies ordering 10 gpus to run it locally lmfao

[gusty kiln]

lol

[ashen spindle]

they are still selling the shovels to the goldrush, doesnt matter where the gold is expected

[stiff path]

Not every company will need one

Apples to oranges

[gusty kiln]

means smaller companies don't need to rely on renting from big bois

[stiff path]

Plus it lowers the bar for everyone

[ashen spindle]

like especially the first point, companies were reluctant? now they dont have to be and can run it but that still needs hardware

[stiff path]

They were even able to get part of it to run on the ras pi lol

[ashen spindle]

is this the same argument from yesterday? you could also get tiny models of llama on a rpi

[astral haven]

this is misleading if not outright lying

[ashen spindle]

that doesnt mean anything because its not the same model

[stiff path]

I know but its amazing how they are able to do this

[astral haven]

the full r1 requires 400gb of ram (if not vram)