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[cursive summit]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxLBqI6yg_h1rF1KE9irSNPv6MSN6D6qfT

This post is honestly amazing, GN will do what they do best, which is being honest about bs, while also doing enough segmenting for those that don't want "drama", I hope Steve can finally rest easier a bit

[reef patrol]

And allegedly not following good journalism ethics.

So... take that how you will.

[cursive summit]

And yeah another fuck Linus is in order

I've had a sour taste in my mouth about Linus Media Group since he started flaunting his wealth every video years ago

[frozen ingot]

tldr linus is a narcissisist manipulator

[pale trellis]

people just seem to like drinking the coolaid sometimes

[reef patrol]

Steve needs to put his money where his mouth is. You're not a journalist, if you don't follow some real basic shit like allowing parties to respond for comments.

You're not a spy. You're not a whistleblower.

[frozen ingot]

watch the video

[iron wave]

Both sides have their faults here and it is sounding like Steve is less correct than Linus from what little I know.

[frozen ingot]

and realize linus did him dirty

[reef patrol]

I don't care about their arguing. I care about objective failures on Steve's end.

[frozen ingot]

he doesn't owe him a right to reply though

[iron wave]

Yeah he does.

[pale trellis]

to be fair, Linus responses would make me tell you to go jam all future ones up your rectum

[reef patrol]

Yes he does. Because that is one of the core tenets of being a journalist.

[frozen ingot]

steve never claimed to be a journalist to my memory

[reef patrol]

Then you can provide that as part of your piece.

[reef patrol]

Buddy...

[iron wave]

It changes it from a smear peice to journalism, if you do it correctly.

[cursive summit]

He does claim that his content is investigative journalism

But he himself never said he's a journalist

[frozen ingot]

well it also gives the opportunity for a manipulative individual to spin the narrative in their favor

[pale trellis]

this, hard

[reef patrol]

I'm not a professional, I just do professional things is not a defense.

[cursive summit]

Idk if making investigative journalism content automatically makes you a journalist, probably yeah?

[iron wave]

I have never seen this before.

[reef patrol]

Yes - And that is something Journalism allows for. Hearing both sides.

[frozen ingot]

rossmann also brings up examples of why right to reply is often harmful

[reef patrol]

Bitch please.

[frozen ingot]

if your case is solid, you can respond to it after the fact without worry

[reef patrol]

If your critical piece can't stand up to having both sides heard, then your work is shoddy and doesn't hold up to journalistic guidelines.

[frozen ingot]

if you got some shit under your rug, right to reply just gives you time to gaslight people

[pale trellis]

Trendy responses, also great defense eh

[iron wave]

Exactly this, you also choose what information you use from the response if any at all.

[reef patrol]

And if you didn't actually do the shit they claim, then it's become a shitty slampiece where the accused party didn't get to defend themselves or be heard i any way.

[pale trellis]

hiding dogshit under traditional journalistic BS is some fkn cope if I ever heard it

[cursive summit]

Tbf when it comes to youtube drama the other party never gets to respond, their response is a youtube video usually

[reef patrol]

If you can - and I quote "gaslight" what you did, then clearly it wasn't serious enough, or your readers are absolute morons who can't think critically and recognize bullshit when exposed to it.

[iron wave]

Honestly with all of the lofty claims GN has made before about how they are the correct parties and do everything by the books, just not doing the most basic and easy to do part of a piece looks really really bad.

[reef patrol]

GN may have the story of the decade - But when they fail to uphold basic journalistic tenets, that's really shitty work on their part.

And that's entirely on them.

[old marlin]

can't blame them for not asking LMG anymore

since all the answers they get are bs

[pale trellis]

Newspaper readers 🙄

[frozen ingot]

this usually happens with parasocial relationships, people get so attached to the individual they forget to be critical of a lot of shit they do

[iron wave]

Linus is asking for people to stop, GN is talking lawyers.

[cursive summit]

Meh I'm on the same court, I don't care about GN not reaching out to Linus

[reef patrol]

You absolutely can. And then you provide their bullshit response in your article and comment on how shitty it was.

[cursive summit]

Especially since Linus is a known manipulator

[iron wave]

With this Steve is showing that he is too.

[distant tapir]

Huh

[misty matrix]

dont fight fire with fire

[cursive summit]

There's nothing manipulative about not upholding right to reply standard or whatever that is

[reef patrol]

Yes there is.

[misty matrix]

imo what gamers nexus did there is out of character, and I genuinely lost a bit of respect towards them

[iron wave]

There's also the fact that he was using quotes that are much less bad with context.

[pale trellis]

crybabies being cucks to manipulators

[iron wave]

Both sides suck for this honestly.

Just one more than the other.

[cursive summit]

You have evidence, and you talk about evidence, GN did not invent non existent evidence and paint Linus in a light that he was not, right to reply would have changed nothing

[iron wave]

If it would have changed nothing they wouldn't have been afraid to do it.

[reef patrol]

If you want to be a big online investigative journalist, you act like it. If you choose not to do your due dilligence, you are no better than any random react Youtuber who comments on a headline. You are manipulating the narrative in your favour.

[cursive summit]

Everything GN talked about was based on evidence and Linus's response changed none of it

[iron wave]

Eh, I'm going back to other stuff for now.

[pale trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/right-yeah-right-yeah-oh-yeah-ohh-gif-14553729619893238098

"only the truth comes from traditional journalistic practices"

[reef patrol]

You've brought absolutely nothing to this discussion, Stephen. Politely go roll down a hill.

[cursive summit]

Meh I just like people dogpiling on Linus I'm not impartial so maybe I'm missing something

[ashen spindle]

Steve wants to hold people to a very high standard and then you need to lead by doing that, including following proper procedures even if that means waiting on not getting a reply

[cursive summit]

There is that I guess

[pale trellis]

you've defended a point of "journalistic integrity" as if it's something that only applies to all manners of truth

https://tenor.com/view/chris-farley-falling-chris-farley-falling-rolling-gif-21434331

[iron wave]

So, does anyone know the "correct" way to do char* someFunc(const char* value) in Rust? The return value and the argument may be null, I tried to do someFunc(value: Optional<Path>) -> Optional<Path> but I couldn't quite figure out how to do the char* <-> Path conversions.

[crimson wigeon]

Just throw bindgen at your header and see what it spits out for inspiration

[iron wave]

I have no idea what that is.

Also wouldn't a native binding generator see char* as a string and not as a path?

[crimson wigeon]

A tool that automagically generates Rust bindings from C headers

[iron wave]

Similar but quite different things.

[crimson wigeon]

Seems like the Path type is not just a simple string, so you'd have to write a little wrapper function that wraps and unwraps the path as necessary when calling into the C code

[iron wave]

Yeah, I'm doing that I'm just having issues trying to figure out the exact dance Rust wants for that.

Also, the C func does make an internal copy of the string I pass so that's not a problem here.

[frozen ingot]

funny thing how linus intentionally sent a message to steves old number he wasn't using, then claiming he got no response from steve on wan show

[pale trellis]

facts don't matter, only traditional journalistic integrity, to do anything correct, one needs a license and must do a play for play or be spanked and made irrelevant

[ashen spindle]

Now you’re just trolling or being disingenuous on purpose

[pale trellis]

I bleed sarcasm

[iron wave]

I might be figuring this out?

[waxen tundra]

is the cable supposed to be fully in ? or ios this ok? this isw how mine looks with the cable a bit out

[reef patrol]

You mean the end of the cable showing a bit of metal? That's normal.

[waxen tundra]

ye this is what i meant

[pale sigil]

https://www.techpowerup.com/331599/new-leak-reveals-nvidia-rtx-5080-is-slower-than-rtx-4090

[waxen tundra]

wondered if that would be the reason it sometimes keeps disconeccting thats all/

[pale trellis]

gee, I hope NVIDIA gets a chance to respond or what absolutely horrid journalism

https://tenor.com/view/slave-driver-gif-24863136

[proven turret]

5090 was advertised for 1600 gbp in the uk, now the estimated price to get one is around 2200+gbp

[crimson wigeon]

b-b-but 5070 equivalent to 4090!!!!

[ashen spindle]

Equivalent in price

[proven turret]

lol

[proven turret]

I was gonna get a 5090 suprim but im gonna get a 4090 suprim instead

saving like 700 bucks

[distant tapir]

5070 costs almost as much as I got my 1080 Ti for

[proven turret]

I got a 1050 ti rn so the upgrade to a 4090 is gonna be nuts

[distant tapir]

Nvm it's more

[proven turret]

founders edition cards are dookie

[iron wave]

I think I managed to get it working.

[pale trellis]

Imagine the heat on new versions of 590/5970

[old marlin]

I sense a strong bottleneck in the force

[proven turret]

?

[crimson wigeon]

If that is your current GPU then your current CPU might be a similar tier

[old marlin]

either that

or your current CPU is super bottlenecked by the 1050ti

[proven turret]

nah im getting a ryzen 7 9800x 4090 suprim x 32 gigs of ram

etc etc

[iron wave]

Crank up super sampling and your GPU will have to work much hrader. :-)

[proven turret]

arriving next week

[rigid tinsel]

how bad a cpu be to bottleneck a 50s card

has to*

[iron wave]

(Even if you are only using half of a new GPU it should use relitivly less power so)

[old marlin]

well for a 1050Ti I would not expect something faster than like a 1600X to be paired with it

[proven turret]

getting a hyte y70 touch too 😎

[old marlin]

💀

that poor 4090 is gonna get chocked

especially with how fat those coolers are

[iron wave]

I'm hoping to get a 5090 without too much hastle.

[fair gull]

ill wait for the second or third wave of restocks most likely

get a better picture of reviews

[sudden imp]

I can’t wait for the reviews of the sff cards

[iron wave]

I really hate dealing with natives with Rust, it's so draining for some reason.

I just wish there was a library for libcap...

[fair gull]

im more curious about the coil whine that does appear in more and more reviews i see

at the start of the reviews i only saw it mentioned once

now its multiple reports

[iron wave]

I don't care about that at all to be honest.

[sudden imp]

On the FE

or AIB models aswell

[lavish needle]

hi new to wooting keyboard...can any one suggest any profile for the finals game?

[proven turret]

wdym

Should have good airflow, I got 11 Lian Li fans too

[cedar rapids]

lets pull up to microcenter at 3 am

i hope but i also dont at the same time they have the asus strix one

[iron wave]

I plonked MicroCenter into Google maps and a suggestion was MicroCenter 5090.

I want a FE.

[ashen spindle]

lmao cute you think 3am is early enough

[cedar rapids]

i think microcenter dont get

fes

i only see them at best buy

[iron wave]

You have to be in line by the 29th at minimum. :V

[cedar rapids]

imma go at 7 am 😭

[cedar rapids]

i have a solution

skunk spray and fart spray become drenched in that

[iron wave]

I wish Rust had overloading right about now.

[fair gull]

why is it so god damn hard to find out what tool raspberry pi os uses for networking

[old marlin]

because they changed it like 3 times

[fair gull]

fudge me

finally i was able to just refetch an ipv6

why has the linux space not advanced to 1 universal command for this

or tool

[fiery veldt]

can anyone help me? ive just plugged ethernet cable in but im getting the same as non ethernet

[fair gull]

what

[fiery veldt]

i get the same download and upload speed on wifi and ethernet

ethernet should be better

[reef patrol]

Should it?

[fiery veldt]

yes#

[fair gull]

only if your contract is fast enough and your router as well?

[reef patrol]

That depends entirely on your internet connection and how your home network is set up 😄

[fair gull]

i can almost get 1gbit over wifi

the max speed of my connection

ethernet will not make it be 2 suddenly

[fiery veldt]

how do i check

[ashen spindle]

what speed do you get

and what speed do you pay for

[fiery veldt]

get about 120 download 20 upload and idk but its about 50 a month

[fair gull]

not the price

what does the contract say is the max speed

[ashen spindle]

well if you dont know what speed you pay for why do you think ethernet should give you more

[reef patrol]

[fiery veldt]

i dont have the contract

[fair gull]

login to the webpanel or smth

check a receipt you get monthly

they all state what product you pay for

[ashen spindle]

or ask your parents or whoever pays for it

[fair gull]

ye

[fiery veldt]

from what im seeing it looks like 1130 mbps

[reef patrol]

Well... until you actually KNOW what internet speed you're paying for, this conversation is kind of pointless. Cause you don't know if you're getting exactly what you should or less.

[fair gull]

not to mention you gave us 120 and 20 without a unit

could be kilobytes for all i know

[fiery veldt]

if its 1130 mbps what should it be

[ashen spindle]

first step is find what internet connection you have, if thats higher than what you get check if your router can even do faster speeds

[fair gull]

not how this works

[fair gull]

thats not 1130mbps

nor is 1130mbps anything an isp would sell

[fiery veldt]

no thats the speed the contracts say on the website

[ashen spindle]

..

[fair gull]

yeah

and no you cant just go on the website and check (unless you booked your internet connection recently and its new) cause the contracts constantly change and usually get upgraded over time

[fiery veldt]

so how do i check then cus my mum says she just does it over phone

[fair gull]

look at an invoice

it says the product name you pay for

then you can google that

if youre lucky the speed is in the product name

[umbral heron]

[fair gull]

holding the soldering iron weird and wrong

obviously its held like this

[reef patrol]

Oh god. Can't unsee it now

[fair gull]

theres a lot of these where people hold it wrong

its funny af

[fiery veldt]

Does m125 mean anything

Might have to upgrade tbh

[fair gull]

if i had to hazard a guess 125mbit

[iron wave]

Imagine the flux popping and burning your chest like that.

[fiery veldt]

Do you think that’s a good internet to upgrade to

[fair gull]

which is what youre getting in the screenshot you sent

+- a few % would match the best

[fiery veldt]

Is the screenshot I sent worth getting?

[fair gull]

yep

[umbral heron]

Why 1130 exactly?
Imperial system?

[fair gull]

132mbps average

so thats why your ethernet is as fast as your wifi

prob lower latency on ethernet though

[iron wave]

1130 is a weird number.

[fair gull]

yes 132 is as well

[fiery veldt]

Oh ok. Yeah way lower but is that one I sent better?

[iron wave]

I do enjoy my 1000/1000.

[fair gull]

its like 9-10times as fast

so yes

[fiery veldt]

It seems pretty cheap aswell

[fair gull]

132mbps (you measured 137mbps) vs 1130mbps

pretty sure you can tell which is faster

[fiery veldt]

Is the one I sent able to provide for full family tho?

[fair gull]

again its faster

how would it be worse than now

[umbral heron]

As long as no one is full-time torrenting then sure

[fiery veldt]

After 18 months it jumps to 85 quid a month

[fair gull]

im so confused by the logic

[loud hemlock]

inb4 1000 down and 50 up

[fair gull]

how a lot of these go yes

[fair gull]

given the weird 132 one is also pretty spot on id not be surprised if the modem can actually do 1130

ofc the ethernet would prob be limited to 1gbit spot on

really wonder how they come up with the weird numbers

[umbral heron]

1130 down/100 up https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginMedia/comments/1ecrty7/virgin_gig1_fibre_broadband_internet_speeds/

[fiery veldt]

Is 85 a month for that still decent price tho?

[balmy vector]

Can i use AI to make the internet go faster with 4x multi-bit-generating

[loud hemlock]

of course lol

[loud hemlock]

this is highly region dependent. i can get 10gbps symmetric for 15 euro in portugal

[fair gull]

idk uk ISPs enough to judge this

[loud hemlock]

yeah

[fair gull]

@pale sigil

give us insight

[fiery veldt]

How?? I want that fast for that cheap

[fair gull]

move countries

thats how

[loud hemlock]

^

[steady sail]

idk we pay like 10euro for 1gig

[fair gull]

also keep in mind getting 10gbps for that cheap you still need to get network equipment that can do 10gbps

[nimble arch]

I've seen people get 1150/100 on Virgin Media connections... Although once you factor in overhead, you're only ever getting 950 on a gigabit ethernet cable anyway. So that one 2.5 GbE port on the Hub 5, assuming you stick with the ISP router, is a lifeline.

[fair gull]

so youll prob spend hundreds or thousands

[loud hemlock]

yeah i dont have that plan, i have 1gbps for 10

[nimble arch]

Although I'm on the gigabit package but stuck on the older Hub 4 and they've, so far, refused to send a Hub 5. Sucks because it means I lack WiFi 6 if I'm using the ISP router and also means I top out at 950/100 if I put the Hub 4 into bridge mode to use my own router.

[fair gull]

i really wanna get the 4gbit plan kpn wants to bring soonish and then upgrade my unifi stuff to 10gbit

then i can dedicate 1gbit to each pc and wifi as well

[loud hemlock]

i find i barely take advantage of my 1gbit in practice

2.5gbe to my NAS is very nice though

[fair gull]

i wish

[nimble arch]

There's a few smaller ISPs in the UK, we call them alt nets here, that offer 2.5 Gbps parallel. I've also seen one that covers like two villages in t' norf somewhere which offer 8000/8000 for like £70 per month.

They also provide some ASUS ROG router instead of any locked down/restricted device.

[fair gull]

the asus rog router is a locked down restricted device imo

but i guess its all a matter of perspective

[nimble arch]

Relative to other ISP routers it's basically anarchy

[fiery veldt]

Hopefully my mum agrees to getting it. I’ve offered to pay and it’s the same price as our current one for a few months

[nimble arch]

EE have a pretty decently specced WiFi 7 router, on paper at least, but it seems the early firmware is kinda buggy.

But it's a decent enough out-of-the-box device for normies

Plus the parental controls seem to be functional

[fiery veldt]

If I currently get 10-30 ping on Fortnite which is the lowest one I should get for 0

[fair gull]

no

0 isnt a possible ping really

the lowest you will realistically see is 5-10ms prob

[fiery veldt]

Which will get me to that then? M125 is what I’m on it goes to m250 m500 and 1gbt

[ashen spindle]

your ping stays the same

[nimble arch]

Virgin Media connections have higher latency across the board than any Openreach connection does

[fair gull]

the speed is not related to ping

some ISPs offer fast routing packages which CAN potentially improve ping but no guarantees

[nimble arch]

Not that it makes games unplayable

[fiery veldt]

How do I get better ping then

[wide sun]

you have good ping

[nimble arch]

You ask the ISP to provision a better network

[fiery veldt]

My latency is low or it feels low

Whats that

[ashen spindle]

if you get 10-30 ping you probably cant make your ping lower unless you move and live in the server room of the game

[fiery veldt]

I get 0-5 in creative and 10-30 in normal games

[wide sun]

Complaining about 30 ping is wild to me

[nimble arch]

That's probably the best you're ever going to get in the UK

That's entirely playable

[fiery veldt]

I did when I first plugged the Ethernet in anyways now I’m on 20 in creative

[ashen spindle]

isnt creative when you play locally on your pc?

either way you wont get a better ping really 20 is very good

[fiery veldt]

Yeah but I don’t get why I was on 0-5 and now it’s on 25

Eve in a real game before I was 15 ping or less and now up to 30

[ashen spindle]

because it doesnt stay consistent

might've been on a different server where the game was hosted etc.

[fiery veldt]

Oh. I bought Ethernet Cus everyone said it was better and consistent

[ashen spindle]

yes wifi can have more dropouts but its not going to change your ping if its that low already

and even if you could it wouldnt really make the game any different

[fiery veldt]

30 ping compared to 10 ping is really really notciable

[umbral heron]

[fiery veldt]

We’ll I guess the lower latency makes up for the ping

Like with Ethernet 30 ping feels like 10-15

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/XzCRb1nTZL0?si=FHsm8b8zE6nMS5dA

[ashen spindle]

no

ping is your latency

ethernet 30ms ping is the exact same as wifi 30ms ping

[fiery veldt]

Well input delay then

[ashen spindle]

no its still the same

[wide sun]

Ping is the time it takes for you to get a response from the server

[ashen spindle]

at best you have a placebo effect

[unkempt lake]

Ya know you can just report him, he technically breaks ebay's TOS, I do the same with pokemon card scalpers who make those "presale" listings

[fiery veldt]

Cus without Ethernet 30 ping feels likes 30 ping while editing but with Ethernet editing feels like 15 ping or less

[wide sun]

30ms is not going to feel really really different from 10ms unless you're a super human

[fiery veldt]

It’s not placebo lol

[umbral heron]

It's taken from Reddit
And eBay doesn't give a shit either way

[fiery veldt]

When editing you can really feel it

[ashen spindle]

if its not placebo you are either changing something else or the laws of physics dont apply to you

soooo I'd say placebo or you are looking at the wrong numbers

[fiery veldt]

Guess they don’t apply Cus ik what im playing.

[unkempt lake]

They actually changed their TOS on presales recently. People nust don't report the listings so nothing changes

But i've seen many pokemon tcg listings taken down scter being reported

[umbral heron]

Wi-Fi and Ethernet are just an interface to connect to the Internet
All that matters is ping and packets dropped, not how computer is connected to router

[fiery veldt]

Ask anyone who plays Fortnite 30 ping vs 10 ping is a massive difference

[marsh pewter]

it’s not

[fiery veldt]

It is tho

[marsh pewter]

ethernet won’t lower your ping but it can make your connection more stable

[fiery veldt]

Other than shooting. building and editing you can feel the difference

[marsh pewter]

I doubt you’d be feeling a huge difference however

[marsh pewter]

placebo

humanly impossible to tell the difference

[fiery veldt]

It’s not. I can’t edit like this on 30 ping but I can with 10

[marsh pewter]

that’s literally what a placebo would do

[ashen spindle]

or the ping isnt showing you the ping or your wifi is lagging and dropping out but still keeping the same ping

[unkempt lake]

The listing needs to guarantee shipping within 40days and already be acquired, someone like this who sells an item saying he'll get "as many as possibls" and allowing purchasing presales he doesn't yet have breaks tos, if people report him his listing will be taken doen @umbral heron
Literally got a bunch of pokemon scalper lidtings taken down on the same technjcality

[fiery veldt]

I still don’t get why I was getting 5 ping to 0 before on creative and now I get 30. I’ve restarted pc and switched lobbied

[wide sun]

Because it's a different server?

[unkempt lake]

Also they need to write those details in the description :3

[ashen spindle]

if it shows 0 it is not showing you a ping anyway because a ping cant be 0

[fiery veldt]

Wdym by that tho. Surely I should be on a similar server

[fiery veldt]

Say that to all pros on hard 0 ping

[ashen spindle]

10-20ms differences are not much that could be the difference between just slightly different servers

then its not showing you what your actual ping is

[pale sigil]

I left Virgin because of these speeds

[wide sun]

Fortnite creative uses their servers, so it's possible you're just getting a server that's further

[ashen spindle]

I dont care what pros say they dont know anything about hardware/software

[fiery veldt]

30 ping compared to 10 is really noticeable. Maybe not to you but to me it is

[marsh pewter]

they would have to be playing on the server itself to have zero ping

[pale sigil]

It's 1000/20

[wide sun]

Its not guaranteed to get the same server each time

[pale sigil]

Sometimes 50 if you're lucky

[ashen spindle]

if you can notice it then its not your actual ping because you can not notice 30ms of ping

[pale sigil]

However the last few years there has been a major push for fttp

For example I have 1000/1000 with a different provider

[marsh pewter]

if you’re superman maybe

[ashen spindle]

counter strike servers in the best cases usually are like up to 50ms and its fine and they notice it much more than on fortnite

on lan you have lower and if you get lucky mabye you get 10-20 in competetive games that are really close to you

[fiery veldt]

Just ask anyone who plays the game a lot. It’s a clear difference

[marsh pewter]

maybe if they’re superman

[fiery veldt]

No

It’s a clear difference

Maybe your ping means something else but on Fortnite 30-10 is a clear difference

[ashen spindle]

then what you are seeing is not your actual ping

[umbral heron]

Between 15 and 30? No way
We're humans, not machines

[ashen spindle]

check in settings, apparently thats showing you an accurate ping

[fiery veldt]

Wdym check in settings

[ashen spindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FortniteCompetitive/comments/l74nv0/is_ping_accurate_on_fn/

basically it seems what you are seing is not your ping idk what they show you

[fiery veldt]

I’m on 40 ping but the matchmaking region I’m on says 20 ms

[unkempt lake]

https://boilingsteam.com/ff7-rebirth-valve-messes-up-with-a-verified-rating-again/

[fiery veldt]

How do I check my actual ping then

[fair gull]

thats

not even related to your thing

[sudden imp]

I’m curious do aibs actually make any profit off factory overclocked cards anymore?

[fiery veldt]

It is tho. I want to see what ping I’m on or how to fix it cus when it says 0-5 ping I’m able to do way more things that’s 20-30

[ashen spindle]

idk gotta check where fortnite shows you your actual ping then

[unkempt lake]

There's nothing to fix

[ashen spindle]

but thats also not relevant to the original questions, the ping will not change with a better internet speed

and if its the same one thernet vs. wifi its still the same

[umbral heron]

There may be a case of packets dropped when connected to wi-fi if you feel like some actions aren't accepted by server

[fiery veldt]

There has to be a way to keep it below 20 seeing as that’s what I get sometimes

[marsh pewter]

the ping counter is not at all accurate

[ashen spindle]

move to a different house or play on a different server

[unkempt lake]

Fiber will generally give you a slightly lower ping than coax

[ashen spindle]

not really still depends on the routing

[fiery veldt]

I play on eu server which says 20 ms

[unkempt lake]

Hence why i said slightly

[ashen spindle]

then move to a house closer to them, you cant fix physical distance with software and thats what ping is mostly about

[balmy vector]

Fortnite

[unkempt lake]

Tech

[balmy vector]

Technical Fortnite

[steady sail]

Fortnite technology

[marsh pewter]

Technite

[fiery veldt]

5 ping vs 20 ping.... look at how like much more the 20 messes up

[reef patrol]

"5ms ping"

So you're in the Epic offices.

[fiery veldt]

That’s what it says. I’m when I’m editing 20 ping fees more delayed than 5

[ashen spindle]

thats not ping then as I linked earlier it seems they show you something else

no clue what that means then

but you dont have a ping of 5ms

[fiery veldt]

It says ping

[ashen spindle]

yes and I dont care what it says

its not ping

[ashen spindle]

omg thats not ping at all

thats render time

[fiery veldt]

Ik it’s not. I’m showing different stuff it says I’m on 25 ping

[minor citrus]

25 ping is at least more realistic, not like 5 is

[ashen spindle]

nothing on that screen has any relation to ping or network connection

[reef patrol]

[sleek cradle]

whats a good mic for 100€, im would use it for streaming and gaming

[fiery veldt]

Does this have anything to do with input delay

Put performance mode on and went from 9 to 4

[ashen spindle]

thats just your fps

[fiery veldt]

Wdym

[ashen spindle]

but instead of frames it shows the duration of one frame

[fiery veldt]

So is it better or worse

[ashen spindle]

just ignore it and look at your fps

[unkempt lake]

Quin

Why are you trying so hard to nake fortnite kiddo understand

[fiery veldt]

About 3-400 fps

[ashen spindle]

more fps = less latency thats all you need to know

dont need to look at the stats you're showing at all

[fiery veldt]

So performance mode gives me less delay?

[ashen spindle]

dont know look at your fps

[fiery veldt]

Average about 300

I’ll cap it at 240 tho

Is a 1440p 240 hz monitor for £230 a good deal

[unkempt lake]

there's more than just res and refresh rate...

[fiery veldt]

Like what

All details should be at top

[unkempt lake]

Panel type, response time...

[fiery veldt]

Is it a good deal?

[unkempt lake]

No

[fiery veldt]

Why

[unkempt lake]

Wtf even is prechen in the first place

Never heard of this brand at all

[fiery veldt]

Idc about the brand I care about the monitor

I don’t have the money to fork out 700 quid for a screen

I’m currently using 1080p 280 hz

[unkempt lake]

Also if you want more hz... why do you want to play at a higher res

And get less frames

[fiery veldt]

Idc about the hz I just want around 240. Everyone is saying for my specs that 1440p is way better for gaming

[unkempt lake]

...

wants less latency
wants to play at a higher resolution and get a lesser framerate

You don't make sense

[fiery veldt]

I don’t get what you mean. If your talking about dpd on pc then I have more than enough

Fps

[halcyon moss]

Halflife used to report sub 10ms pings me me quite often in the past

[ashen spindle]

yes source often uses ~half as the ping instead of the roundtrip time

[fiery veldt]

My specs should be able to handle 1440 p just fine. I just wanted to know if that monitor was good or not

[ashen spindle]

and I wasnt replying to that?

[fiery veldt]

You replied to me saying that I want less frame rate or something. I asked if the monitor was good

[cursive summit]

Well I'm downloading a cracked apk to remove reddit ads

This one honestly pissed me off

[iron wave]

Just use Firefox and uBlock.

[cursive summit]

Galaxy S25 owners love this product! [checks release date] the whole 0 of them!

[cursive summit]

Not doing that on mobile

Works well on desktop, not doing that on mobile

[fiery veldt]

I have a few really good gaming stuff. Is there anything else I can buy to enhance my gaming experience

[pale sigil]

Just patch it

With revanced

[unkempt lake]

just delete reddit

[cursive summit]

I have tried using the revanced patcher before but it would not run on my phone at all

I guess a retry is in order cause I'm honestly beyond annoyed with trash ads

[pale sigil]

What phone

[cursive summit]

At least give me a fuckin good ad, not constant gacha ads

[fiery veldt]

I have a few really good gaming stuff. Is there anything else I can buy to enhance my gaming experience

[pale sigil]

Guessing Samsung?

[cursive summit]

Shitty xiaomi

[pale sigil]

Oh ye

[cursive summit]

Poco X3

[pale sigil]

Turn off um

System optimization

In dev settings when patching

[lyric hatch]

i have a s21 and use revanced fine

[pale sigil]

Or click make a copy of the patched APK

[cursive summit]

I use youtube revanced and revanced YTmusic, but the patcher would not patch reddit for some reason

[pale sigil]

What's the error

Failed to install?

[cursive summit]

Again, I'll retry cause my motivation for deadding is high

[pale sigil]

Or failed to patch?

Do you want me to send a patched APK?

[cursive summit]

Sounds about right

I'll look one up on android forums

[pale sigil]

Turn off system optimisations

And try

[cursive summit]

There's always good shit on XDA developers

[pale sigil]

Not really

Then off system optimisations

[fiery veldt]

I have a few really good gaming stuff. Is there anything else I can buy to enhance my gaming experience

[pale trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/shensch-gif-10623977881312639243

[fiery veldt]

Can anyone answer??

[sly hawk]

what do you have currently @fiery veldt

[fiery veldt]

As in items? Or specs

[cursive summit]

I heard you should buy rgb led strips to enhance your gaming experience with

[fiery veldt]

Cus I’m not looking to upgrade specs

[cursive summit]

And gamersupps

[fiery veldt]

I don’t really want leds lol

[cursive summit]

You can't "enhance" your gaming experience with nothing else but good games, you know

[lyric hatch]

better monitor, audio, PC hardware, mouse, mousepad

[cursive summit]

Though good audio is useful

[sly hawk]

Higher quality headphones? Audio Mixers like Scarlett Solo or Clarett+ 2pre, custom mouse skates? Stream deck plus?

[cursive summit]

You don't need an audio mixer for gaming

[sly hawk]

I know, but I'm just offering ideas

[cursive summit]

And if you are thinking amps then you don't need that either

[fiery veldt]

I don’t use headphones

[cursive summit]

Gaming headset user?

[sly hawk]

what do you use

[cursive summit]

I hope you come to the light eventually, my child

I will accept IEMs as an answer

[fiery veldt]

I just use a sound bar

[cursive summit]

Oh god a speaker user?

[sly hawk]

what games do you play

[fiery veldt]

At the moment Fortnite Minecraft and Roblox

[cursive summit]

Well if you have no neighbors some people prefer speakers, idk, I've always prefered the intimacy of headphones or iems

[sly hawk]

the only game you would maybe need headphones for is fortnite tbh

are you console or pc

[fiery veldt]

I don’t like wearing them lol Cus if someone walks in or tries speaking to me I won’t hear them

Pc

[cursive summit]

Not with open backs lel

You can hear things just fine with open backs

[sly hawk]

comfy chair?

[fiery veldt]

Whats open back and yeah pretty comfy

[sly hawk]

closed back= the sound is trapped in the headphones open back= the sound can leak out of the headphones for better audio quality/better soundstage

open backs can kinda imitate listening to speakers in a room

[fiery veldt]

Might give them a try

Do you think I should keep my monitor or buy the one I showed before

[sly hawk]

you said you had 1080 280hz?

[fiery veldt]

Yeah

The one I showed was 240 hz 1440p

[sly hawk]

I think you're set for a while with that monitor

[fiery veldt]

Ok

What are some good open back headphones ? And will they somehow make me a bit better?

[sly hawk]

they won't really make you better, but you might be able to hear footsteps better and be able to better hear which direction they are coming from

how much are you willing to spend on headphones

[fiery veldt]

Not that much tbf I don’t even know if I’ll use them

[sly hawk]

the EPOS PC38X headphones are a pretty popular choice

[fiery veldt]

They are £250 it says for me

Way too much

[sly hawk]

ok, let me try to find better deal

[fiery veldt]

I don’t think I’d be willing to spend over 50

[unkempt lake]

Atleast gigabyte has a model close to the msrp

Asus is fucking insane

[sly hawk]

PHILIPS SHP9600

[fiery veldt]

Think I’ll just leave the headphones lol way to expensive

Is there anything else I could get like any good accessories

[sly hawk]

what mouse do you have

[fiery veldt]

Razor viper v3 pro

[sly hawk]

okay, good mouse, good skates'

[fiery veldt]

Wats skates

[sly hawk]

the things on the bottom of the mouse that lets it slide around

your mouse has good ones

[fiery veldt]

Oh ok

[sly hawk]

only other thing I can think of is trying out different types of mousepads but that is a very niche subject

alot of different materials and opinions online

[verbal nimbus]

are stock skates on deatheradderv3 good compared to other third party skates

[sly hawk]

what color are the skates on the bottom of your mouse

[verbal nimbus]

white

[sly hawk]

then they are the nice updated skates

[verbal nimbus]

oh nice

[verbal nimbus]

Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro is what a lot of streamers use (around 150 usd)

also theres hd 560

[sly hawk]

I personally use some basic dt 770s

thinking of upgrading eventually

[verbal nimbus]

to what

[sly hawk]

I almost spent way too much

I was almost going to get the focal celestee

I overheat so I always have fans running in my room. Open backs are a no-go for me

[verbal nimbus]

damn 1k

[steady sail]

me with my 50$ IEMS

[sly hawk]

hey

Iems are great

[verbal nimbus]

would you ever get planar headphones

rn i just use my momentum 4s for everything and i switched out the stock pad to a gel cooled one

[balmy vector]

Tech

[sly hawk]

I had the momentum 4s but they died for me after about a year idk why

[steady sail]

Tech

[sly hawk]

It might be tech

[lyric hatch]

open backs allow for more air to travel through to your ears then a closed back headphone like the dt 770s

[sly hawk]

yeah, I prefer open backs due to all the sound in my room, so it makes it harder to look for good headphones

[lyric hatch]

I just don't have the set up right now for open backs

[sturdy raven]

Hd800 are open back and they sound good

[sly hawk]

darn, I meant to say closed backs, not open backs

[steady sail]

i just dont wanna spend too much on audio tech at all xd

[sly hawk]

closed backs are the ones for me

due to my window fan that gets no rest

[lyric hatch]

that's what my iems are for if I don't want to hear outside noises

[steady sail]

even with IEMS i hear everything outside

[sturdy raven]

Hd820 is close back

[steady sail]

all of the headsets that i used the earcups just became dirty and after cleaning them most of them just died xd

[gentle osprey]

insane

[steady sail]

soo i had enough and switched to IEMs

[gentle osprey]

Simgot SuperMix 4s

[lyric hatch]

it's also a very widely hated headphone, although you won't find many closed back audiophile fans in general

[steady sail]

i enjoy my Zero:Reds

[gentle osprey]

Those are good $50 iems

I usually recommend them to peeps who never tried IEMs

and everyone I've recommended them too likes them

[steady sail]

i was hesitant between the Zero:Reds or Linsoul SIMGOT EM6L

[sturdy raven]

They’re bias against closed back

[gentle osprey]

I have those too

Also really good

[lyric hatch]

still using my em6ls

[gentle osprey]

The Supermix 4s fit my ears better so I prefer them but EM6Ls are great

[unkempt lake]

2k usd should be 2869cad

So yeah those prices are fucked

[gentle osprey]

Yeah thats wild lol

[unkempt lake]

Only gigabyte has an msrp card in canada

Asus is like fuck you guys

[gentle osprey]

ASUS is wildin out

[lyric hatch]

i probably would have got the supermix 4s but they came out later

[steady sail]

i dont even wanna know whats gonna be the 5090's price in Hungary xD

[sly hawk]

yikes

I wouldn't want to get the 50 series due to all the ai frames

[lyric hatch]

one day i'll ball out and get some mega5est's or something

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I got the EM6Ls first too and then saw the Supermix 4s drop and was like hmmm, and waited a bit then finally got em after watching a few reviews of em comapred to the 6Ls

Both are great , really can't go wrong

[steady sail]

sadly AI is the future so u either adopt or u are not playing video games

[gentle osprey]

I want some Susvaras lol

[lyric hatch]

i spent about as much as i did on the em6ls on trying different eartips

[marsh pewter]

play exclusively stylized indie games

[sly hawk]

I meant too much, I currently have 4070ti. I like ai frames I just don't want the future of gpus to heavily depend on fake frames

I'm all for a 50/50 relationship with that

[gentle osprey]

Haha yeah I tried out a few diff ones as well, I like the Dunu and Final Audio tips

[steady sail]

yeah so u gonna play Indie games

[gentle osprey]

and SpinFit is good too

[sly hawk]

nuh uh

[lyric hatch]

yeah I ended up with the Dunu S&S being the best for me with the em6l at least

[steady sail]

there is better indie games than 3A

[sly hawk]

oh yeah for sure

[steady sail]

tho im still waiting for getting a better GPU first :3

[sly hawk]

what do you have right now

[steady sail]

6700 xt

[sly hawk]

what are you hoping to upgrade to

[steady sail]

either gonna wait for RX 9070 or just something else

[gentle osprey]

Why ASUS gotta be so crazy

[sly hawk]

are you sticking with AMD

[steady sail]

or im thinking about that 3090 for 640 euro dx

[sly hawk]

3090 for 640?

[steady sail]

yeah

[sly hawk]

hell of a deal

[cunning charm]

dunu are good

the comply 500 with tech defender have helped with my tea pro set

they too sensitive for moisture build up and after 4hrs u get audio imbalance

but the tech defender fixed it

[sly hawk]

I got my 4070ti for about 690-700 and it's a noticeable performance difference

'

I use this site to compare

[steady sail]

overall i just want a better card for 1440p gaming

[sly hawk]

yes, I would go for 40 series then

do you have any micro centers near you?

they typically have good deals

[steady sail]

im from the EU

[ashen spindle]

waiting for march seems the best idea because form the numbers we do have it does seem like 9070 will be better in efficency so thats nice

[sly hawk]

what country

[steady sail]

Hungary

[unkempt lake]

Cuz it's ASSus

[gentle osprey]

[unkempt lake]

I don't need a gpu upgrade but this shit is kinda nuts lol

[gentle osprey]

Me neither but I want one

[unkempt lake]

7900xtx will keep going strong for a while

[gentle osprey]

I want them 1% lows

[sly hawk]

so do you use Ipon?

[steady sail]

i would use 2nd hand market not new market dx

[mortal swallow]

does anyone know how im supposed to find the strong and weak cores in my cpu if they all max out at pretty much the same speeds?

[ashen spindle]

for what, OC?

[unkempt lake]

Maybe i'll pick up a 9070xt if the pricing is good and repurpose the 2080 in nico's rig as a living room pc @gentle osprey

[mortal swallow]

curve optimizer

[unkempt lake]

Idk yet

[slate solar]

I just seen cad 5090 pricing and fell to my knees

[gentle osprey]

download AMD Ryzen Master software

[ashen spindle]

ryzen master shows you the two preferd cores

[analog sinew]

to earn some money suckin' or to pray to the lord

[mortal swallow]

can i download it and then instantly delete it

ive had alot of problems in the past with ryzen master

when it comes to changing settings in there so i prefer bios

can i just check the better cores and hten uninstall it?

[sly hawk]

jofogas.hu?

[gentle osprey]

Yeah you don't have to use it to change settings, just to identify cores

[ashen spindle]

well if you already had the tool you should know what you can do with it lol

[mortal swallow]

alright holup

[steady sail]

nope that

[mortal swallow]

i was just testing the profiles on there and tried tinkering with stuff and it was just a big confusing process and some of it didnt work properly vs doing it in bios

[sly hawk]

ok, we plan a robbery

[mortal swallow]

i have minimal knowledge on the whole features

[slate solar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975643195016892419/1332812246555951187/IMG_1584.png?ex=67969da2&is=67954c22&hm=4484c7fea5c7b8c0d063215d22f190bec762e29caeb26b0a5a0b693624803123&

I’m gonna be hauling ass for those prices

[analog sinew]

ouch

[slate solar]

Need to marry rich

[unkempt lake]

Just buy a gigabyte

Gigabyte is literally msrp

[analog sinew]

maybe some american refugees are in the market

[mortal swallow]

where do i find it in the app?

[broken moat]

5090 more like 4090ti

[slate solar]

[unkempt lake]

2k usd = 2897 cad @slate solar

Windforce pricing is fine

Asus is fucking us over tho

[slate solar]

[astral haven]

Tarrifs

[slate solar]

Crazy how it’s almost a $900 difference

[unkempt lake]

Nope

[slate solar]

holy our currency is cooked

[unkempt lake]

It woulda been that a while ago

[analog sinew]

i so hope i can grab a 5080

fe or aib

just a card

[slate solar]

fe looks pretty

[unkempt lake]

Our currency's always been worth less and it's beneficial to our exports @slate solar

[astral haven]

Yes, if they are importing from the US, they will get hit with 25% after Feb 1

[analog sinew]

wouldnt mind FE yea

[slate solar]

25% more on a tofu redux case gg

[unkempt lake]

Why would they

[analog sinew]

and I imagine the cooler on it will work quite well if its the same as the 5090

[sudden imp]

I find nowadays OC models are useless. Suprised the premium for ASUS’s OC astral isn’t that high.

[slate solar]

Surely it can run crysis now right

with a 5090

[unkempt lake]

You seem to underestimate how nuch stuff goes through ports in BC @astral haven

[astral haven]

Because us ports have much higher capacity

[unkempt lake]

Straight from taiwan

[ashen spindle]

because if you dont import from the us but have it stored in ca you need warehouses there so not every company will have that

[astral haven]

BC is big, but I'm pretty sure that it's smaller than either of long beach or sf

[analog sinew]

yeah there isnt really much to gain with all those AIB cards besides design and RGB

[unkempt lake]

Most big retailers do...

[analog sinew]

we're getting 5090AIB tests in a few days right

[ashen spindle]

we already have aib reviews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jw6ZEhqhvo

[gentle osprey]

that card is massive

[ashen spindle]

we're just missing the 5080 nda being up

[gentle osprey]

like wtf

6.25 pounds

[analog sinew]

yeah thats a weapon

[balmy vector]

Absolute chonker

[gentle osprey]

PCIE slot gonna be crying

[lyric hatch]

[analog sinew]

hm thats more than i expected ig

but not a lot still

i wish i could see some EU prices

[ashen spindle]

yeah but look at the powerdraw increase lmfao

thats from another like 50-100w on top

[balmy vector]

Tasty power

[gentle osprey]

They are more power efficient but yeah its crazy

[sudden imp]

—> Founders sold out
—> Look for black card near MSRP
—> ????
—> Profit

[astral haven]

I've been pretty shocked by how much more power customs draw in game even though it's only 25w tdp

[sudden imp]

Genuinely speaking will that much more performance be noticeable in the real world for the pricing?

[ashen spindle]

lmao no

[lyric hatch]

we gotta start bringing back some of these classic memes

[ashen spindle]

realistically you want to set a 90% power target and maybe see if you can OC the memory a bit

[balmy vector]

Can i pull my gpu out of my gpu oven

[sudden imp]

Makes sense, the more I look at the GeForce card launches I see why EVGA stopped. Which cost them their business but still.

[astral haven]

Noone looking at spending 3 grand on the GPU cares about "noticeable"
If you want the best there are few options

[ashen spindle]

nah, 90% powertarget also means you dont have insane coil whine and the fans are lower

same thing I do on my 4090 sometimes

[gentle osprey]

Thats what I do

[astral haven]

Customs should whine less?

[ashen spindle]

sometimes

[astral haven]

My ftw3 was whiney and my kp doesnt

3090

[lyric hatch]

my 660 ti ftw signature 2 had coil whine

taking the factory overclock off stopped it though

[mortal swallow]

Ryzen master is so confusing ts crashed multiple times and told me to open without administrator and then after the fifth crash I tried opening with admin and it worked

Ts is wicked😭

[analog sinew]

not really, but i expect it to be closer

[analog sinew]

yeaa

thats how it will go

[lyric hatch]

sounds like the FE cards will be very limited

[analog sinew]

strange that nvidia isnt capitalizing on the market more

they could have that shit on lockdown

[ashen spindle]

they cant

if every aib jumps ship if they compete too much they suddenly need to enter into low margin business

they dont have the same supply chain set up from product to customer

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/B_fGlVqKs1k?si=FloN68va--2r1EdK

[ashen spindle]

yeah tim made a good point, it's sort of like when older titles used motion blur

it has some upsides but it just isnt native smooth performance

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

Wondering how Reflex 2 can help with that

[thick elk]

I would say it's a nice to have, still, just situational.

[gentle osprey]

and subjective/preference

[ashen spindle]

the issue is still it works the best when its needed the least

if you have reflex2 its even better if you dont decrease your latency with framegen

[gentle osprey]

Right but I'm wondering how Reflex2 can help with FG latency

[ashen spindle]

honestly I dont think it can because I'm not quite sure if those are compatible

[gentle osprey]

Yeah Im curious to see

I'm not sure either

If they are I think that's a big plus for FG

if you can reduce the latency hit

[ashen spindle]

yeah then it will be nice once frame gen gets rid of more artifacts

[gentle osprey]

Right yeah, especially since if using MFG 4x, you're seeing generated frames more often than regular FG 2x

So chance to notice visual artifacts is higher

(you knew that already tho lol)

[gentle osprey]

and yeah it works best when you're already getting high frame rates lol, if you're at lower frame rates like 20 -30 fps, it feels like crap

[ashen spindle]

I like it and reflex2 as the thing blurbusters does, making a path to 1000hz screens and gaming

but nvidia just sells it as borderline snakeoil xD

[gentle osprey]

Indeed and agreed lol

Nvidia acts as if they're insecure

like their products aren't good

So they gotta do this weird sales tactic

[ashen spindle]

im just pissed amd didnt go for bigger gpus partly because they said they dont want to raise power to the ceiling and now we have 600W for a 20% gain lol

[gentle osprey]

or think they do anyway

[gentle osprey]

Yeah AMD upsets me too

Want more out of them

[ashen spindle]

the next amd rep I see at gamescom or another event better have time for me to complain that they better get their ass back into high end

[lyric hatch]

isn't reflex basically built into FG

[ashen spindle]

1 yes, 2 no

[gentle osprey]

It gets enabled by default in a few games when you turn on FG but it's not inherently built in

[ashen spindle]

that too

reflex 1 basically lets the input skip the renderqueue so the input is closer to the event of it happening but has to be manually added and isnt part of dlss

reflex2 is also its own sdk and basically makes it synced to the frame the cpu is already working on by projecting where the movement would end up in the next frame without doing everything else

very rough tldr

[lyric hatch]

seems like it has some integration

[ashen spindle]

the issue is just like with dlls, reflex 2 includes both the new and old reflex tech

so you could say you use reflex2 with dlss4 but it could be any sort of combination lmao

[gentle osprey]

Yeah they're designed to work together forsure but I think they're two separate things you can turn one on or off and so with the other

but like I said most or at last a few games I've seen enabled reflex by default when you enabled FG

[ashen spindle]

since reflex2's space warp fills in the new pixels just for where you aim the question is, does that mess up frame gen or can they do the revert in time

[gentle osprey]

Some let you disable it, some lock you out

[lyric hatch]

either way I'm interested in trying it out

[gentle osprey]

Nah yeah same

[ashen spindle]

space warp is cool tech definitely, but since its really mostly coming to valorant and the likes, its a question if we even get any games that have frame gen and reflex2 lol

[gentle osprey]

Right yeah I was just gonna say something like that, I wonder how long it'll take to come to our single player games

cause its marketed towards competitive FPS

[ashen spindle]

if its not getting an unreal plugin or something we might only see reflex1 in most games

[gentle osprey]

Yeah, I think Nvidia smart enough to get a plugin for it

and UE

[lyric hatch]

does seem to imply they are separate later on

[gentle osprey]

Yeah its options

which is nice tbh

Don't wanna use FG but want reduced latency, you can have it

Should let that Bryan Catanzaro guy talk about the tech instead of Jensen

would sell it better imo as funny as Jensens moments are

[ashen spindle]

bryan is good and all I just personally dislike him because hes pushing dlss upscaling/framegen and I'd rather we dont have that shit at all

[nimble arch]

Do NVIDIA take ownership of Fine Wine™️ from AMD given that all this new DLSS tech, outside of MFG, works even on the 20-Series GPUs?

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I get you, fair enough lol

but hey if he can make it look better, and feel better, more power to him

these things are just gonna take time

[ashen spindle]

reflex2 is only 50 and 40 gen

and from the new dlss4 tech only better ray reconstruction is coming to 20 series and that is just still absolute trash

[gentle osprey]

Yeah they want to see if they can bring these techs to 20 and 30 series

[ashen spindle]

yeah they wont lmao

[gentle osprey]

Yeah bryan said something along the lines of tech being a result of the time in which its built

[ashen spindle]

they could even make something like reflex2 open and work on amd/intel but they wont

[gentle osprey]

so probably gonna be hard

at least in a playable optimized sense I imagine

least that's how he kinda put it

[gentle osprey]

That'd be interesting

[ashen spindle]

could make it industry standard so unity/unreal/crytek etc. could all add it as basic feature to the engine and intel and amd just add it to their drivers stack

but ofc why would nvidia want to do that

[gentle osprey]

Yeah who would want that

[ashen spindle]

so we need to wait on microsoft out of all the players to do thinks like the ml upscaling sdk and force vendors to play nice

[gentle osprey]

That'd be a game changer

[ashen spindle]

you could still market it as nvidia tech and everything but just make the entire industry better

[gentle osprey]

Yep agreed

[lyric hatch]

I wonder if AMD adds FSR4 support for RDNA3

[gentle osprey]

mmhh

idk

prossibly

lol

[ashen spindle]

they said they will try but cant guarantee it

because it seems that its not a thing of it it works, but if it works good enough

the model is heavier so it takes more time, and if you make it work on rdna3 but now the frame gen takes longer than the time you would save, you just reduce fps in the end lol

its not a case of acting like tensor cores limit it being able to run on it at all

at least thats how they presented it to press so far, that rdna4 is just faster in some areas which allowed them to run a heavier model

[lyric hatch]

is FSR4 purely frame gen

[ashen spindle]

not sure

I think it is both

[sturdy raven]

Lightest mouse I’ve ever owned…so far. Pulsar CrazyLight

[leaden kiln]

nice are you liking it so far
my wrist started hurting almost immediately when i was using my coworkers 150g mouse

[balmy vector]

Gotta beef up those arms

[sturdy raven]

Fits me perfectly but I've been using the x2v2 mini for a while

They have the same size and shape so I'm used to it

My take on lightweight mice is how effortlessly it is to move around especially in fps games. That was my initial impression when I got the GProX superlight a few years ago. I regretted not getting a lightweight mice sooner

[charred nexus]

Alright I think my 4 years old AirPods Pro is finally dying

The case won’t work unless I plug it in

💀🙏

[charred nexus]

How’s the shape, is it like a smaller X2 mini. I haven’t watch any reviews yet

[unkempt lake]

Get a replacement case

[leaden kiln]

my job is basically physical labor and my wrists dont hurt from that so idk

[lyric hatch]

same shape as x2 mini

[sturdy raven]

Same size and shape as the x2 mini

[charred nexus]

Oh, cool
I like the X2 mini shape, I think I would buy one when it’s available locally

[charred nexus]

Ain’t it like 80 dollars for one, better off buy the gen 2 at that point

But I’m thinking about when will the gen 3 release

Ain’t it gonna come out this year?

[balmy vector]

Mouse is too powerful for you

[slim patrol]

should I get an ATK Fierce X or Scyrox V8? I have a slight claw grip with medium sized hands

I currently have a glorious model d wireless and that fits in my hands good

[steady sail]

?

[gaunt shard]

sorry

mistake

[still loom]

Think it might just be luck of the draw with whine, silicon lottery I guess 😂

My last 2 GPU have zero whine

[magic minnow]

My 9800x3d is here but I can’t pick it up until Monday

[distant tapir]

Rip

Mine is hopefully here next week

[astral haven]

Every GPU can be made to whine, just depends what load

Rhythm games are famous for whine since they usually have really high fps

[magic minnow]

Very soon

[distant tapir]

Ah, nvm... Not until first half of February since the motherboard wasn't in stock

I have to get by with this TRASH laptop a bit more

[unkempt lake]

Finally you decided against the 9950x3d xd

[slim patrol]

im pretty locked in on scyrox. it should fit my hands fine i guess anything smaller would just get uncomfortable like the atk fierce x

if i knew more mouse then i could have a better option but idk

[still loom]

Idk bro I guess I don’t put it under heavy load a lot but played Indiana jones pretty much maxed out over the Xmas period for multiple periods of over 10 hours 😂

There is never any audible whine over the sound of the fans but I guess there might be if the fans weee completely turned off

But in terms of people actually talking about coil whine it’s usually when it is fairly audible even over fans

[ashen spindle]

he didnt say heavy load because heavy load is usually not what causes coil whine

[still loom]

And btw those 10 hour+ periods of gaming the GPU is at 99% load 😂

[ashen spindle]

something 2d that runs 1000fps will give you coilwhine, fully pathtraced cyberpunk will get you 2fps and fans and max speed but no coil whine

[still loom]

Well fair

But I game a lot on valorant and that’s consistently 500-600fps

What’s the metric of a GPU coil whining 😅 if it’s the case that we need to get a minimum of 1k fos then yeah I’m probably not gonna get it

[astral haven]

Its when the load switches a lot in the middle of the frame

[still loom]

And what kind of example can you give that is a definitive test that can guarantee the whine

[astral haven]

A game that has really hard load for part of the frame, and the rest of the frame is light load, and the fps is really high, 500+

[still loom]

I mean that’s too broad of an answer

What game and what frame

And I will test it

[ashen spindle]

well it depends on the card what game fits the criteria

[still loom]

Sounds like avoidance to me tbh 😂

If any card can coil whine then give the definitive test that does it

[ashen spindle]

already had one here, if you get like 900 fps in osu or the likes it could happen

older games that run super high could do it, think I had it in tf2 once

some games that have uncapped pause menus but idk at the top of my head which ones that are

probably new world since that killed some cards xD

[astral haven]

Yea I usually can trigger it with osu

[still loom]

I played new world for over 1000 hours on my previous card 😂

I’ll try on osu maybe, in the next few days

[magic minnow]

It wasn’t meant to ship until next month but they pulled a fast one on me

[unkempt lake]

Why the sad face

[magic minnow]

I was still debating it

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/rlePeTM-tv0?si=bT7Jk5YvsU4V7pi1

[bright briar]

whats the verdict with the 5090 and 5080 waste of money or naw?

[ashen spindle]

5080 review isnt out yet

[bright briar]

oh mb

[ashen spindle]

5090 is 20% more money with 20% more powerdraw and 25% more performance(at4k) than the 4090

[bright briar]

damn

[gentle osprey]

yeah pretty much what quin said, lower performance in some cases, and up to 40% in some titles, will likely increase as drivers and optimization comes out

[magic minnow]

So I’m stealing 5% performance from nvidia

[ashen spindle]

no thats just inflation

[bright briar]

probably just get a 4090 but knowing where i live they wont drop the prices

for the 4090

[gentle osprey]

4090 is one of the best value flagships in recent years considering it was same price as 3090ti and 60% performance increase

[bright briar]

damn

thats pretty good

and its shaped like brick so if someone wants to break into my house i have another weapon to use

first weapon is 60he+ modded kb

[cunning charm]

might be better off just throwing the whole pc tower at them

😂😂

[bright briar]

i like the way you think boy

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-cat-gato-god-of-war-gif-9879305093256610302

[cunning charm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-spirit-kitchen-sink-gif-24993423

[slim patrol]

mad r major plus or scyrox v8 for claw grip and medium / large sized hands

[steady sail]

[magic minnow]

Viper v3 pro

Best fitting mouse imo

[slim patrol]

So expensive

[magic minnow]

It’s worth every penny

Or you could get the viper v2 pro

[vagrant pagoda]

wait discord embeds have ads now for youtube?

[slim patrol]

How

Isn’t there better mouse out there?

For like 80

[magic minnow]

I believe the Viper V3 Pro has the best sensor some people like to hype up the Sora V2 though

[slim patrol]

They say the scyrox v8 is better than the sora

But does sensor matter a lot though?

[mortal swallow]

Bro can someone help me find my preferred cores ts is driving me crazy, what do these numbers even mean😭

[magic minnow]

Very very little

Since it’ll be in the ms

[magic minnow]

https://youtu.be/27KYaGPf86A?

[empty wren]

Cool update

[modern sphinx]

I need this.. in IOS though

[mortal swallow]

I gave up trying to figure out curve optimizer my core 0 and 1 were the fastest but anything id do to offset them from the others would make the PC unstable

At one point I had core 0 and 1 on -8 and the rest on -10 and it was still crashing so I just gave up

I don't understand how it works and the guides are so confusing

[pale trellis]

just wondering, would not these eliminate coil wine?

https://www.chilisin.com/upload/media/product/power/file/BMCx_Series.pdf