🔌│tech

[gentle osprey]

I'm personally looking for Interspace Travel Grade

[rough patrol]

if they used aerospace grade screws, all the gpus would be like 10x price

or use no screws at all

[cursive summit]

Depends, is it Boeing?

[balmy vector]

Battle-scared 5080 APOCALYPSE ELITE

[gentle osprey]

Titanium Alloy GPU when

[cursive summit]

Bad thermal conductivity, not happening

Even GPU backplate needs to have some thermal conductivity

[unkempt lake]

Military grade... guys have you seen the quality of military equipment xddddd

[cursive summit]

What do you mean with that

[reef patrol]

Military Grade - Aka. "Lowest bidder wins"

[unkempt lake]

Lowest bidder

[rough patrol]

lowest bidder or "guy that has good connections"

[cursive summit]

Lowest bidder still needs to pass certifications for minimal durability requirements

[unkempt lake]

cut corners my beloved

[rough patrol]

cant forget about the guys that enrich themselves using their military connections

[sudden imp]

Crazy how the FE are somehow cheaper and nicer quality

[digital cliff]

blower-style fans are radial 🤪

[reef patrol]

How is that crazy? The first party charging partners, allowing them to undersell?

[lyric hatch]

Well when Nvidia sets the prices that's what happens

[unkempt lake]

The "requirements" are kinda meme worthy also we have no idea what certification they're talking about or what country it's based on

[gentle osprey]

yeah why is it crazy

The company that invest a load of money into R&D

[unkempt lake]

Like technically my phone case is "military grade" but if you look up the actual certification it's a meme

[cursive summit]

For ASUS always talk about MIL-STD 810H

[gentle osprey]

Yeah Military Grade in the US is just supposed to mean it passed certain specifcations according to the DoD

but it's just marketing

[unkempt lake]

Lemme look that one up real quick

[digital cliff]

and "aerospace grade" just means "aluminium" lmao

since literally every aluminium series can be found in an airplane, it's not that special

[cursive summit]

Could be carbon nanosheets tbf

[lyric hatch]

Profit margins for AIB cards are real slim to what Nvidia is making off each card so they can afford to slap a nice cooler on there for retail

[gentle osprey]

Yeah Nvidia been getting better and better with their FE designs, hence part of the reason why EVGA is gone now

[unkempt lake]

Also uh what part is considered "military grade"... i have a feel like liquid resistance doesn't apply to a gpu

Xdddd

[cursive summit]

doesn't apply
My sister in Christ, have you seen the amount of people that do water?

Liquid cooling is nuts, so there's some need for protection there

[ashen spindle]

the amount of... probably less than a percent

[unkempt lake]

Yes but I never heard of a gpu that can survive fucking immersion in water

[cursive summit]

Leaks mainly

[gentle osprey]

That new ASUS PCB coating can surely survive underwater

[unkempt lake]

A water repellant coating against splashes sure but IMMERSION

[balmy vector]

What im hearing is that we need to start using plutonium

[rough patrol]

gamers always chasing the best possible immersion but get angry when i dunk their pc into a tub of water

[lyric hatch]

AIO are more and more for looks over performance nowadays overclocking headroom just ain't there and air does pretty much the same thing

[rough patrol]

do you want it or not

[gentle osprey]

Yeah now you only need AIOs for Intel CPUs

[balmy vector]

Liquid nitrogen

[unkempt lake]

I take mine swimming at the lake

[lyric hatch]

When the best gaming CPU is running at 60°C on air when gaming I think we're chilling

[rough patrol]

that is very nice of you, my pc also needs some time off sometimes

gonna take it to see the fishies soon

[balmy vector]

An underwater adventure

[lyric hatch]

420mm AIO for those

[unkempt lake]

Mine's so heavy it takes me to see the fishies with it

[analog sinew]

that one does look nice

but the fan openings opening into each other

idk what that is

like this slot

but maybe it doesnt matter

[balmy vector]

Probably doesnt matter, just extra space to place those large boi fans

Just want it to be Wednesday already so i can get my new case

[analog sinew]

what did/will you get?

[balmy vector]

The frame 4000d corsair revealed at ces

[sharp badger]

Nice got the og 4000d

[distant tapir]

Pic? What is dat

[sharp badger]

Yeah kinda want to see what the 5070Ti SFF options are too

[analog sinew]

grater

[sharp badger]

Might be able to run these on the 3080 still and just prolong the life of it

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[balmy vector]

Perfect for making shredded cheese

[analog sinew]

yup

[sharp badger]

It does have some nice upgrades to it compared to the one i've got

[analog sinew]

apple inspired

[sharp badger]

Yeah

[magic minnow]

That’s why I want the FE for the 5090 gonna be perfect for a SFF build

[sharp badger]

Yeah very smol

[magic minnow]

What case do you use or plan on using?

[distant tapir]

Looks kinda cool

[sharp badger]

Did Fractal have any new cases at CES?

[distant tapir]

I still love the Mac Pro case. Very sad I backed that scam though

[cursive summit]

Pretty sure this guy is reliable https://x.com/All_The_Watts/status/1878490567014777077

All The Watts!! (@All_The_Watts) on X

1️⃣5️⃣🎮 🖼️&🔮

9️⃣0️⃣7️⃣0️⃣ XT 🙆🏾🕑 ≥ 4️⃣0️⃣7️⃣0️⃣ 👔 🏪 < 4️⃣0️⃣8️⃣0️⃣

9️⃣0️⃣7️⃣0️⃣ 🙆🏾🕑 ≥ 4️⃣0️⃣7️⃣0️⃣ 🏪 < 4️⃣0️⃣7️⃣0️⃣ 👔 🏪

9️⃣0️⃣7️⃣0️⃣ XT 🙆🏾🕑 3️⃣✖️✖️✖️ 3️⃣✖️✖️

9️⃣0️⃣7️⃣0️⃣ 🙆🏾🕑 2️⃣✖️✖️✖️ 2️⃣✖️✖️

💯⏩💨

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 5:13 PM

So pretty much equal or better to a 4070TiS at 480$

Sometimes it does seem to trade with 4080S which is quite pog

[magic minnow]

I haven’t seen anything

[cursive summit]

Man the pricing on 4070TiS is just.. nuts

[magic minnow]

I’d love a small fractal north

[balmy vector]

Modular, has slidable rails to fit the different fan sizes and 360mm support on top got me like

[gentle osprey]

It's for airflow transfer

middle fan is spinning in the opposite direction

[sharp badger]

Would like the Terra in Jade but just an upgraded version of it or a Fractal Ridge but ofc. there's the Ncase, Formd, SSUPD, Skyreach etc.

[distant tapir]

This design is still goated

[gentle osprey]

I need my PC to be smaller than my Internet router

[balmy vector]

Ultra mini itx

[gentle osprey]

Like this

SFF needs to work on getting down to this size

otherwise lame

[sharp badger]

That would be nice

The Skyreach is quite small though

[magic minnow]

I’ll go SFF once MSI releases the AM5 version of this motherboard

[ashen spindle]

this guy has never been anything but unrealiable

only posts stuff others speculated on forums or discord before

[gentle osprey]

Bro posted a bunch of emoji lol

[distant tapir]

I'm having a hard time reading the tweet. Why did he have to do it in such a confusing way

[gentle osprey]

It’s not worth reading into it that’s why

[lyric hatch]

True

AMD should release some actual details on their card the fact they haven't yet makes me think it ain't looking that good

[gentle osprey]

Yeah they being kinda weird

[lyric hatch]

I get wanting to wait for Nvidia before announcing pricing

[unkempt lake]

https://x.com/3DCenter_org/status/1878004170080309650

3DCenter.org (@3DCenter_org) on X

At 3DCenter forum, 5080's perf was evaluated acc. to this DF video using manual frame counting. A 4080 was tested in exactly the same scene and sequence.
4080 -> 5080 w/o DLSS +17.8% (14.8 vs 17.4 fps)
... with DLSS Perf. + 2xFG +18.8% (79.9 vs 94.9 fps)
https://t.co/bqmsKtv5aF

Twitter · Jan 11, 2025, 9:01 AM

[gentle osprey]

Yeah but it’s been days now

[cursive summit]

They are not the only ones that post emojis but are considered reliable

[unkempt lake]

22-01

[gentle osprey]

I know lol

[ashen spindle]

they are NOT reliable

[gentle osprey]

Other use emoji too

And they are not reliable imo

[cursive summit]

Yes, they are not

[gentle osprey]

Yeah like quin said

[unkempt lake]

Everyone ignored the insanity i posted

;-;

[ashen spindle]

well you said reliable here

[gentle osprey]

I missed it

Was putting bacon on a plate

[balmy vector]

Tasty

[unkempt lake]

Put it into my mouth instead

[lyric hatch]

Well we'll get real numbers soon hopefully

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

Excited for benchmarks

[unkempt lake]

Soon tm

[gentle osprey]

With these new “axial” fan designs, I wanna see how thermals are for all the models

[lyric hatch]

I don't mind a thicc card as long as it's dead silent

[analog sinew]

neither do i as long as it fits in my case

i have 160 mm of sideways clearance with connectors

thats all

but this is assuming we can buy any at all

i'm tempted to write to the electronics shop next city and ask if theyll have any

[magic minnow]

That would be smart

Wowie!

[balmy vector]

Oh wow

Its got the big boy in there

[magic minnow]

Look at this super slim itx

[fallow escarp]

no way that's real

[distant tapir]

This is a high quality replica of the Mac Pro you can buy which supports regular PC parts. It's damn tempting but it's very xpensive

[fallow escarp]

Build a normal PC into this

[fallow escarp]

how many vbucks?

[distant tapir]

$1149 USD

[sudden imp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1hvw7vs/frame_4000d_a_new_look_to_the_4000d/

[fallow escarp]

AIN'T NO WAY

[distant tapir]

It's made of real aluminium and is a very high quality case

https://www.mcprue.com/store/mcprue-apolloone

[magic minnow]

https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X600TM-ITX/index.asp

[distant tapir]

(there are no pics with the cover on here to avoid issues with Apple)

[fallow escarp]

It's still insanely expensive, that's almost a whole PC worth

[distant tapir]

I know. It's a boutique product

[fallow escarp]

Is there a cheaper alternative?

[lyric hatch]

14kg case

[fallow escarp]

You can probably buy an apple pc tower for cheaper and just custom weld it up for cheaper?

original quality for less?

(idk I'm not an apple product guy)

nvm it's 6g's

6grand for these specs is insane

Last iPhone I had was an iPhone 3G

I'm still waiting for something new to buy it but I will probably never will

[distant tapir]

Maybe somewhere but I imagine it's either much less faithful or built much worse

[fallow escarp]

I use an 300 bucks android and change it every couple of years that's the way

I want that chinese shit vivo x200

That looks sick

But it's china exclusive

If you buy it in EU it works but half of the shit is in chinese

And it's a LOT more expensive here

Then in china

[lyric hatch]

I've just been buying the base samsung galaxy for my past 3 phones and keeping them until the battery starts getting too degraded

I'm at the 4 year mark nearly for my s21

Might have to switch it up this time though s25 looking mid

[magic minnow]

I’m looking forward to the Pixel 10 hopefully the new chip is going to be good

If not I might just go One Plus

[lyric hatch]

Yeah OnePlus 13r could be the one

[magic minnow]

It looks much nicer than the 13

[reef patrol]

Yes? That's the entire point.

[analog sinew]

but its still ugly

[distant tapir]

I love the look

If I had it I would go for all black internals and try to make it look as clean as a real Mac Pro

[analog sinew]

all black internals now that i like

too much rgb vomit on components all the time

my mobo has rbg, i hope i can turn it off easily

[magic minnow]

Just wait for project Christine

[analog sinew]

i would unplug it if i could

[magic minnow]

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2014/01/08/ces2014-razer-showcases-christine-futuristic-modular-pc-concept/

[distant tapir]

CES2014?

[magic minnow]

[analog sinew]

any day now

[magic minnow]

I believe in them

Imagine the extra Razer tax on a 5090 modular component

Okay that will be 3k

[lyric hatch]

Just gimmi this

[cursive summit]

Whatever that is, that looks really good as long as it comes with so mesh panels

I hate PCIe risers, I already have encountered multiple issues with them

microATX support is awesome cause ITX motherboards.. kinda suck?

Ah NCASE M2, that looks like an amazing case

[balmy vector]

And they just give you one of those rubix cubes but its just the razer logo, all sides are green

[unkempt lake]

Dont leave this next to my cat

She'll think it's her next cat tree

[magic minnow]

She'd be super duper toasty

[unkempt lake]

She'll topple it xD

Put her little paws on the psu and try climbing

[rough osprey]

nice

[trim crane]

yoooo same, I think you will really love my new build :)

[latent mural]

where should i install my argb fan hub?

its magnetic, this is what my case looks like

idk where to put it because i dont wanna like circuit anything

[analog sinew]

whatcha got

[trim crane]

can i send my part picker list

[trim crane]

I want the AC168

[lyric hatch]

It is very cool

Definitely looking at it as my next case and I can salvage my NH-D15 for another PC

[trim crane]

I should get a D15 G2 Chromax when out

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Aerobrake/saved/3cF6Bm

[analog sinew]

whatcha need the fan grills for

[sharp badger]

To protect the cables, might not need them

Do you have the 3080Ti?

[trim crane]

in case I had space I figured I would place them on some of my fans to prevent things getting caught in fans

[trim crane]

yeah I had it for about 2 years

i like my FE card

i got it sealed for 75% MSRP because at the time RTX 40 series was just coming out

[sharp badger]

Ok

[unkempt lake]

I love noctua but... the D15 G2 ain't it

it's just too damn expensive

and well it's a pain in the ass

Fucking torx screws for that one part in your build?

yes i know they're technically better than phillips screws but they still annoy me

I'll just keep using my U12A till it can't cool something I use anymore

but after seeing how good thermalright's coolers are i'd go for those if i was making a new build

hell getting a thermalright and putting noctua fans on it is cheaper and gives the same performance as buying a noctua lol

[wraith rain]

how do i fix this?

[fair gull]

turn of tachyon mode also #tech isnt the place for this

[wraith rain]

myb'

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/7dQqX1qmSew?si=DLvpo7lXBL3oH3cj

[lyric hatch]

Gimmi that boring flat panel please

[ashen spindle]

nah on ultrawides you want a small curvature, makes it much nicer

[gentle osprey]

I feel like if you haven't tried Ultrawide, you should at least try it

[ashen spindle]

especially if they are that massive

[gentle osprey]

or go check one out at a shop somewhere

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I don't like the 800R ones, I'm more like Tim and prefer 1800R

What's cool about that motorized bendable one is that you can change it by 10% increments, so you don't have to either be flat or be 800R, you can choose somewhere in between

[ashen spindle]

those are probably the go to for the future higher end ones I think

because then you dont need different models and it makes it so you dont have awkard uneven bends when doing it manually

[gentle osprey]

Yeah the Corsair one was jank lol

things like that help pave the way for where it's at now tho so can't hate on it

https://youtu.be/pNp7GfKpn8g?si=__I7AsxVyu4Us93J

[trim crane]

this is definitely for you

[gentle osprey]

you know me too well

[ashen spindle]

I love comparing uncertain data vs uncertain data

[gentle osprey]

same, these times before release are fun

[ashen spindle]

no I think these are the least fun ones xD

before its less data and more interesting to consider things, now its just a mess and half is false leaks the other marketing and a third half that just doesnt add up xD

[gentle osprey]

I don't disagree but that's why I find it funny lol idk

[lyric hatch]

I think I just play too many comp games

Also for the specs I want you can just add like another 1-2k onto the pricetag

[gentle osprey]

Yeah if you play comp then don't get UW ofc

[gentle osprey]

I agree with Daniel, the 9070XT has to be $499 or cheaper

[unkempt lake]

I disagree

I like my aggressive curve on my neo g9

[astral haven]

g9 is superultrawide not ultrawide

[unkempt lake]

1000r go nyommm

[astral haven]

its much less pleasant on 16 or 21:9

[gentle osprey]

yeah but that's different on 32:9 vs 21:9 like Carmon is saying

[unkempt lake]

True

I saw some flatter super uw and i enjoy them less

[gentle osprey]

For gaming it's fine, it's just when doing other stuff it can look stretched

[unkempt lake]

Idk this just feel nice to sit at

[gentle osprey]

Yeah for 32:9 it's probably better

[unkempt lake]

Also like when i was running triple 1080 i always had my side displays angled

So idk i think i'm just used to that

[bright briar]

tec

[ashen spindle]

.. im talking about not having it flat

on top of 21:9 != 32:9

[unkempt lake]

I'm tired (:

the reading part of my brain no workies rn

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[fair gull]

i didnt know der8auer made hardware gore videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJxu_99EmHw

[tidal umbra]

would anyone know why my 60HE keys keep getting stuck. like not physically but in game my character keeps walking in a certain direction even when my hands aren't on my keyboard. Its fully updated and I've restarted it :/

[astral haven]

#1019755933959733258

[tidal umbra]

well you see I clicked that and got confused

[astral haven]

shame, if only there were an easy to press big blue button to add a new post that is very large on both mobile and on desktop

[magic minnow]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/liquid-cooling/pump-free-360mm-aio-liquid-cooler-goes-up-for-preorder-at-usd419-threadripper-variant-caries-an-eye-watering-usd599-price-tag

Did someone post this already?

[warped gull]

I've heard people were working on pumpless liquid coolers, hope for all our sakes it performs well, would definitely be a game changer.

[magic minnow]

It looks cool

[crisp granite]

HOLY SHIT
they made a thermosiphon that isn't just as comically large air cooler but a pumpless AIO

that's awesome
I just hope they make a 240 or 280mm version I can throw into an ITX case

[vapid ruin]

How does this work?

[crisp granite]

um, the third grade version is as follows:
water pressure inside the loop, differences in temperature and clever engineering make the water circulate

without a pump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BWEDfrE9c

Linus did a vid on the previous version

[vapid ruin]

very cool

[unkempt lake]

oooo

these are cool put too expensive imo

420$usd is ouch

for a cooler

fun toy for overclocking

but i dont really see the practical aspect

[quaint dew]

owww

[crisp granite]

not great for, tbh

chances are it won't do better than a regular AIO, with pump

[reef patrol]

Would be safer though :3

[warped gull]

https://youtu.be/2L4HItnm6nY?si=heoGxkReneft6vro&t=5 Probably the only monitor that was exciting for me for this year's CES, and it's not even built for gaming . Alot of localized dimming zones which sounds promising, but want to check it out IRL.

[distant tapir]

Quick, pose for our thumbnail:

Imagine his kids looking him up on the internet and they see 1 000+ humiliating images of him like that

[warped gull]

Priceless, which is also near what that monitor costs

[reef patrol]

It's a video editing monitor. It isn't for consumers.

[warped gull]

Yes well aware.

[umbral heron]

But there absolutely will be someone who'll buy it for Valorant or CS

[analog sinew]

: o

[reef patrol]

Huehuehue

[wheat yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/ritz-balls-soyjak-pog-gif-1306777620801093075

[reef patrol]

LISTEN - You need a top notch monitor to truly enjoy the vision that Chris had for de_aztec.

[cursive summit]

https://x.com/9550pro/status/1878245486781706510

HXL (@9550pro) on X

ROG X870E 1001 beta BIOS (AGESA 1203) new option

"Gaming Adaptive CCD parker"

Parks the less prioritized CCD when the active CCD is not fully utilized.

https://t.co/Dadgz0Jido

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 12:59 AM

[ashen spindle]

? That’s what happens already on the dual ccd SKUs

[umbral heron]

Hit it with the good ol'
WINE_CPU_TOPOLOGY=16:0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23 %command%

Doubling UPS in Factorio by giving it half of the cores

#🔌│tech message

[ashen spindle]

That’s what the windows chipset driver does ever since they released the 7950x3d

[raw zephyr]

have they fixed it? i remember it had some issues

[ashen spindle]

I mean it still has some issues but it’s still doing the ccd parking so that bios feature is nothing new

[umbral heron]

Both Windows drivers and Linux kernel have CCD parking
Just... it doesn't work great
I mean, maybe now it does, iunno

I just hit it with taskset and done

Other thing - I'm really surprised that Plasma is handling my whole multi-monitor setup with VRR, HDR, multiple refresh rates, everything, and there's like no issues at all, just plug in and it works

[cursive summit]

https://x.com/AnhPhuH/status/1878758606751072701

Hoang Anh Phu (@AnhPhuH) on X

Report/Rumor about NVIDIA WoA SoC:
- Architecture: Blackwell, 180-200 TOPS
- Launch/Announcement: Computex 2025
- Collaborate with: MediaTek
- Lineup: N1x (High-end), N1 (Mid-range (?!)
- Production Estimates: Q4 2025: 3 million units
FY 2026: 13 million units

Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 10:58 AM

NVIDIA WoA?

[umbral heron]

Windows on Arm SOC?

Will we repeat the story of Qualcomm?

[nimble arch]

Gaming laptops

[umbral heron]

Yeah
On ARM

[cursive summit]

Oooh the long rumoured Nvidia CPUs

Tbf by the specs these seem like a Strix Halo rather than a Snapdragon X

[umbral heron]

MediaTek processing and Nvidia's AI and GPU stuff

[cursive summit]

Considering MediaTek is incredibly competitive in mobile right now, probably more than Qualcomm

That's.. kinda nice

[nimble arch]

DLSS4 makes up for an ARM CPU not going above 30 FPS

[umbral heron]

I think the problem may be running the game at all

[ashen spindle]

Office laptops, chromebooks etc. it’s not going to do much for gaming

[vapid ruin]

mmm, hope there's one that's being paired with 32 or even 48gb of fast ram

assuming it has native cuda it could be a nice alternative to M series mac when it comes to running AI locally

[umbral heron]

I wonder which arrangement would be better

[halcyon moss]

Super weird both

[ashen spindle]

You want to deal with windows on arm to set up local ai stuff

[halcyon moss]

2x2 1080ps and the 1440p next to it :p

[ashen spindle]

Get a strix halo laptop if you want 128gb ram for ai

[vapid ruin]

I mean... setting up AI on anything can be pain, I have to either dual boot or setup WSL just to use one of the backend that I like

[umbral heron]

I want them kinda around my main monitor, so it's easier to work with

[ashen spindle]

Hmm I don’t even know if WSL works on WoA

[vapid ruin]

nah, a cheap pc with a used 3090 or 2 3060 is better. Assuming that thing cost like $1500

[umbral heron]

There's WSL for WoA, but not all distributions are there

[ashen spindle]

Well I guess depends on what you need, but no cheap used gpus will get you 96gb of vram

But if you can’t make use of more vram the mediatek chip won’t have any benefit over a current amd or intel laptop either

[vapid ruin]

pain

price to pay for a private AI

[umbral heron]

With 96/128G I'd expect them to allow for changing vram allocation
But on the other hand - that's Nvidia, so...

[ashen spindle]

Oh we don’t know if those ram sites are what you can get for the meditek chip lol

I was just talking about strix halo specs

[umbral heron]

I hope it won't be 32G with forced 24G/8G vram

[ashen spindle]

First you need to hope it’s 32g and not 16

[pulsar elk]

ong

anything above 1080p/1440p is overkill imo

also those are all 60 hz i think

[halcyon moss]

Oh I want 4k for gaming. Absolutely makes sense in games with lots of smaller things, like Sims or rts

[warped gull]

Yup love playing CIV6 on 4K! Wondering how 7 is going to be, though the requirements are quite steep for 4k60 on ultra setting.

[marsh glade]

They're making it to be able to be played on mobile, so I'm sure it'll be fine...

[nimble arch]

It's Steam Deck verified also

I'm sure it'll be fine

[pulsar elk]

single player gaming yea

multiplayer no

[ashen spindle]

Multiplayer yes

Not every multiplayer is a competitive shooter

[balmy vector]

Deep rock galactic

[umbral heron]

Most games worth playing in multi like Stardew Valley, DRG, etc. you can run in 4k with no problem now
Just AAA slop has problem with this

And our beloved singular AAAA game

[balmy vector]

Cant wait for deep rock rogue core

[umbral heron]

co-op FPS roguelite
Say no more

Now I wanna play Roboquest again

[vagrant pagoda]

Two GPUs don't combine vram for models

[vapid ruin]

It does, I mix in both 3090 and 4070tiS all the time to fit text gen model that wouldn't usually fit on a single 3090

[vagrant pagoda]

It's no different then having it in system ram

[vapid ruin]

Yeah, maybe, but it's a lot faster than having to use system ram

[vagrant pagoda]

If that was true there wouldn't be a 2x premium on high mem GPUs

[vapid ruin]

Nvidia be nvidia

[vagrant pagoda]

I'm talking prices on GPU time for cloud

Going look at a100 40g vs 80g

Going from a a100 80g to a h100 80g isn't nearly the same price jump even though the cost per GPU is massive

[wind moss]

Just a quick question: I have a rx 6750xt and 5600x and am currently on a 1080p monitor. I’ve heard that this configuration makes it so my cpu bottlenecks my gpu a bit in games? If I switched to 1440p my CPU would bottleneck less, right?

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes but is it actually bottle necking in the games your playing?

[wind moss]

Not sure, I don’t really know if im using 100% of my GPUs potential

Feels kind of a waste if I can’t fully use my gpu

[vagrant pagoda]

So then why are you worried about it?

[ashen spindle]

You can’t ever use 100% of your hardware one part is always a bottleneck for the other

[vagrant pagoda]

It's going to change for every game and even different parts of the same game

[wind moss]

Yeah I guess that makes sense

[sudden imp]

Are you a stock broker why so many monitors??

Also the second one

[crimson wigeon]

Must see everything

[umbral heron]

I do lots of stuff at once when working
Also quite useful when playing MMOs

[vagrant pagoda]

5 isn't a lot

Also it's 4 1080p 23"

Tiny monitors

[digital cliff]

clearly this arrangement

[vagrant pagoda]

What are you some sort of single screen pleb

[digital cliff]

I'm a single screen overlord

I had 2, i threw the other one away

[umbral heron]

But you didn't had to throw throw it
My head still hurts back there

[digital cliff]

next time it'll be the TV!

[umbral heron]

[digital cliff]

well joke's on you guys at any rate, the other monitor I had I... liberated from my old workplace, and then sold it to some chump for 10€

https://tenor.com/view/im-a-bit-of-an-entrepreneur-gary-williams-kenan-im-business-minded-inm-a-business-person-gif-21233981

[analog sinew]

damn invite us to your yacht

[vagrant pagoda]

I guess if you only did like fps/action games and didn't do any work on your PC one screen might work

But I couldn't do strategy games single screen

To many boring parts

And 0 chance I'd ever work single screen

[topaz fog]

i need a bed tv so bad

[halcyon moss]

ಠ_ಠ

[vagrant pagoda]

For what purpose.....

[halcyon moss]

porn.

[topaz fog]

watching tv in bed

[topaz fog]

???

[halcyon moss]

wat

[topaz fog]

no innuendo detected

[halcyon moss]

too innocent

[topaz fog]

im actually so clueless rn

[digital cliff]

all I do for "work" is CAD stuff which is completely fine on one screen tbh

[vagrant pagoda]

How do you look at notes or your measurements at the same time?

[halcyon moss]

alt - tab ?

[vagrant pagoda]

I do cad too and that's the main use for multi screen

[digital cliff]

I don't have those

[marsh glade]

How do you have Wooting's discord on your second monitor if you only have one monitor?

Does not compute

[marsh pewter]

there’s no need to call me out mark

wooting discord best discord

[vagrant pagoda]

What are you doing in cad for work with no specs?

[digital cliff]

my own stuff?

[digital cliff]

in fact that's one of the positives for me in not having the second monitor, no compulsive disorder to glance over at the server 24/7

[marsh glade]

Heresy!

[digital cliff]

haha

[analog sinew]

detox

[latent mural]

Someone help me bro my argb ain't working on my CPU cooler😭

[reef patrol]

Did you plug the cooler into an aRGB header?

With the THREE, not FOUR pins?

[cursive summit]

Looks like it's time, Switch 2 is supposed to happen January 16th

Just in 3 days

Eurogamer, Tom Warren, VGC and NateTheHate are all strongly sure that it's January 16th

Supposedly hardware only, no software

[rough osprey]

when can i buy

[cursive summit]

I suspect March

But it's anywhere from now to what, June?

Likely not February or January lol, we'd already know about this far more if it was launching this month

Though supposedly it is being produced in big enough numbers that some units started leaking in China and people literally have one on hand

I suspect March, I think that's a good time slot

[latent mural]

Am I supposed to? I just plugged it into the CPU cooler part

[reef patrol]

... yes 😄

Your fan needs some way of being told how to RGB.

[distant tapir]

I see people say there won't be a 5070 Ti FE but from what I know there's hasn't been said anything official about that

[latent mural]

I plugged it into this

Damn I'm gonna need a fan hub then I only got one argb header

[ashen spindle]

the slides from the keynote said it

[latent mural]

We ain't even get a 4090ti yet

[ashen spindle]

how is that relevant

[distant tapir]

That there won't be one?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[latent mural]

Jus sayin we ain't get a 4090ti

[distant tapir]

Awwwww

[latent mural]

Lowkey sad

They ending the flagship TI trend🥺

[ashen spindle]

why sad, we dont even know how it would have performed if at all

its literally just a name

[latent mural]

cause I have a 3090ti and wanted to get a 4090ti

[ashen spindle]

if they give you a fully enabled 102 die on the xx90 then there is nothing they could do to make a 90 ti

[reef patrol]

Yeah that only powers the fan. You need the aRGB header to control the RGB separately.

[ashen spindle]

they cant just put 50 extra cores onto it out of nowhere

[latent mural]

Ahh I see.
I bought a argb fan header hub and it says I need a SATA cable, would using a USB to SATA converter be dangerous to power the fan hub

[latent mural]

🥺

but a 4090ti would've been so sick

[ashen spindle]

why, what do you think it would have done

[latent mural]

Idk they usually lock in on the visuals on the TI versions

I haven't seen a good 4090 under like 2.5k

[ashen spindle]

so you want a different cooler not a higher tier gpu

[latent mural]

yea

Idk maybe I'm trippin but my 3090ti looks amazing compared to anything else I've seen

[ashen spindle]

I mean usually I look at my monitor not my pc

[latent mural]

I'm lowkey bugging I'm just attached to the flagship TI

I had a 980ti, then a 1080ti, then a 2080ti, 3090ti and I wanted a 4090ti

[ashen spindle]

3090ti is basically the same as th e3090 for the fe cooler?

and if you look at the price and cooler for the 5090 that will be the same, fancier cooler than anything below

just instead of calling it a 5080ti its a 5090 now

[latent mural]

So no 5090ti I'm assuming then

[ashen spindle]

we dont know, would depend on how much of the chip is disabled if there is more performance on the table later

[latent mural]

I preordered a 5090, hope I get it 💀

A little under the table but shh nobody gotta know

[halcyon moss]

Rich boy here

[ashen spindle]

but seriously, if they hadn't name things 3090 with the 30 series, every xx90 would have just been the xx80ti from before

so looking at names and not the product is a bit silly

[latent mural]

I'm just attached to the past😔

[ashen spindle]

attached to marketing*

[latent mural]

Type shit

[halcyon moss]

Attached to titan

[latent mural]

I might get a 5070 too

[distant tapir]

I agree and I don't like cases where one can see inside the PC, but I still love the feeling of having cool looking internals even if I only see them when I open it up to dust every 6 months

[ashen spindle]

I mean I have a side panel to look into it for issues lol, otherwise its on the ground outside of my view

[latent mural]

Is the difference between 5070 and 5080 worth it if I were able to buy either at MSRP? wanna get one for my girlfriends build

[ashen spindle]

we dont know performance of any of the cards

[latent mural]

I'm fine with buying the 5080 if it's like that big of a difference

[ashen spindle]

you'll have to wait for reviews

[latent mural]

Damn

I might just thug it out anyways and buy a 5080 cause it can't be bad right?

[ashen spindle]

we only know that estimates so far from frame counting and such put each card like 15-30% above the 40 series

but thats just estimates and could vary

[latent mural]

what about amds variant? Do we know if it's any good

[ashen spindle]

it appears to land somewhere 4080/5070(ti) but we dont know till we have reviews of those either

nothing certain till we have the first reviews end of month

[latent mural]

Damn. I might just buy a 9070XT, and a 5080 and worst case I make a profit no matter which I buy

Scalp maxxing😍

[ashen spindle]

could also be they dont get scalped and have more supply or prices drop after the others release etc.

so worst case you lose money or it doesnt sell 😛

[balmy vector]

And even better case is that i eat both

[lyric hatch]

Yeah which is probably way more likely on AMD just given how many more cards Nvidia sells

[latent mural]

Okay but let's keep it a buck any new 50 series card is selling for more than MSRP unless it comes out like the 13th and 14th gen Intel cpus did and shit starts burning

And 9070xt I'm sure is gonna sell decently ig

I have hope

[ashen spindle]

I mean, what if reviews come out and the 5080 costs 20% more than a 4080 and only does 15% more performance?

people aint storming for that then

[latent mural]

I mean if the 5090 is 2x the performance of a 4090, and allegedly a 5070 is the performance of a 4090, then surely a 5080 is crazy right

[rough osprey]

will 5070ti be better then 4080

[latent mural]

To be fair though I'm fine either way because the reviews I'm sure will come out in a week or two and I don't get my GPU until the 30th so I can just cancel worst case

[rough osprey]

im scared

[magic minnow]

I like mesh as well

[latent mural]

I presume so AI or not

Raw performance will prolly be wtv

[rough osprey]

Lets ban DLSS

[ashen spindle]

The 5090 is at best 30% over a 4090

[distant tapir]

Mmmmm, I'm not a huge fan. I prefer solid side panels and a solid top

[magic minnow]

[distant tapir]

[rough osprey]

mesh goated

[ashen spindle]

And the 5070 is not even close to the 4090

[magic minnow]

Mesh the best

[rough osprey]

(if it doesnt create annoying turbulences)

[distant tapir]

Wat case?

[balmy vector]

Edible

[magic minnow]

Lian Li A3

[distant tapir]

Fractal North?

Goated case coming through:

[magic minnow]

https://lian-li.com/product/a3-matx/

[magic minnow]

The closest I’ll get to one at a smaller size

When I get the 5090 I’ll get the Terra though

[distant tapir]

I'm not a big fan. The wood looks so tacked on

[marsh glade]

Doesn't the 50xx have a relatively large jump in power required? More power = more heat

More heat in that tiny thing won't do great...

[balmy vector]

5090 575w

[magic minnow]

[cursive summit]

Do not get the Tera lol

It's not a good case, overrated cause it looks unique

Mechanically it's just.. not good

[craggy aspen]

arent 3rd party 5090 insanely huge and thick will it fit

[nimble arch]

What's that one ITX case from the optimum videos?

[leaden kiln]

t1? it has basically the same mechanism as the terra

[craggy aspen]

cheese grater

https://ncased.com/collections/m-series/products/m2-grater

[cursive summit]

Ncase M2 looks very nuts, I've seen some incredible reviews for it

Pricing wise it's also not bad

[nimble arch]

£8 cheaper in black than white

[cursive summit]

I love the fact that the M2 is just.. a normal case but basically still ITX size

The weakest part of ITX is the riser, no doubt

I've already had to repair and ITX build multiple times due to a riser

M2 having no riser is just incredible

[latent mural]

Is my case slept on or what

Idk why that sent in 240p

[cursive summit]

Tf is that

[craggy aspen]

https://meshless.design/

this one is cool but overpriced

[cursive summit]

Why are they thinking meshless is a good thing lol

Mesh is the future

[reef patrol]

Dynamic O11 clan represent

[leaden kiln]

oh those look really nice
haven't seen that brand before

[unkempt lake]

Everyone should just buy

Fractal design meshifys

[unkempt lake]

Mesh is already here

[cursive summit]

And I hope it replaces glass

Nobody needs glass

[magic minnow]

I’m going for a Founders personally since it’s a 2slot and the length is 304mm

[unkempt lake]

This

[leaden kiln]

why does it have to be replaced, why can't both exist, people like different things

[unkempt lake]

Main issue i have with a mesh side panel tho is... lack of dust filtration

I need cat hair filters

[cursive summit]

As long as glass exists it'll be far more utilized than mesh

I want nothing but mesh cases whenever I look at shops

[leaden kiln]

you can get filter material and make your own filters, it's a bit involved and will probably raise your temps by a few c but it's doable if you need it

[unkempt lake]

I mean most people remove the filters from their meshify but like if i take mine off uh...

It's gonna be messy

[reef patrol]

Involved? Gluegun, mesh, scissors.

[unkempt lake]

Good idea tbh

[leaden kiln]

well you might want them to be removable for easier cleaning, it's definitely not difficult but it's a bit more involved than getting them with the case

[unkempt lake]

Magnets

[leaden kiln]

I have 100 3x1mm magnets left from vr stuff

I was thinking of making some filters since my case has none currently

[unkempt lake]

Anyone hungry?

[rough osprey]

yoooo

[reef patrol]

A Mark PC if ever I saw one.

And Discord eggs up tags yet again...

[marsh glade]

I've already stolen it and shared it many places

[reef patrol]

[balmy vector]

“So what kind of processor does it have?”
steak

[unkempt lake]

7 meats per second

[reef patrol]

Spawning pigs in minecraft just to get the crackling done on the GPU.

[marsh glade]

Whole new meaning to the term "meat processor"

[deft raptor]

Nah, just run Furmark on it. Meat will be ready in time.

[vagrant pagoda]

with some gtx 480s

[sudden imp]

https://youtu.be/u2_fzwVqCUM?si=ArQUokSgmSYkSY22

[unkempt lake]

Thats good looking

[distant tapir]

Is there a more minimalistic black motherboard on the market than this?

[gentle osprey]

no

[umbral heron]

Best board out there

[distant tapir]

Is NZXT bios good?

[gentle osprey]

NZXT also rubs me the wrong way after their recent scam

[gentle osprey]

My buddy has one for his 12400f, I don't think he's complained about it

[minor citrus]

don't forget this specific one is AM4 only

[gentle osprey]

^

[distant tapir]

I'm not looking to buy right now I just sent that pic as an example

Sad that my favourite looking motherboard is made by NZXT

[ashen spindle]

I think there were some similar ones at ces for the budget amd/intel lines

so x850/840 and such but dont have a link atm

[distant tapir]

It actually looks cooler without the shroud imo

[ashen spindle]

I mena that just looks like any other board imo

[distant tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[gentle osprey]

get you one of these /s

[distant tapir]

Motherboards that glow are so annoying. I didn't manage to disable the lights on my previous one. They would turn back on after I restarted the pc

[magic minnow]

I just want an ITX with 4x m.2 slots is that too much to ask for

[gentle osprey]

I have mine turned off

[distant tapir]

"for those who dare"
Dare to what exactly

[ashen spindle]

I dont even know if mine has lights or not, the gpu/cpu coler cover most things

[gentle osprey]

Dare to spend a lot of money on brand name parts

[sharp badger]

I'd probably buy this one if i wanted to get a 9800X3D to replace my 12700K https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-PRO-ICE#kf

[gusty nexus]

Dare to waste money on useless feature/RGB

[gentle osprey]

yeah the white ones from gigglebit are cool

[sharp badger]

Think it would look nice in the current case & with a white aero card

[magic minnow]

I hope MSI announces some motherboards this month

[distant tapir]

Crazy just how much empty space PCs often have when you think about it

[sharp badger]

Yeah was thinking of getting an aircooler but would just get one when i'm switching out the motherboard

Would be nice to build a SFF pc but would like to have the case to be tall like the ridge so i could put it on the desk

But buying SFF components limits building into ATX again or it can be done but with workarounds like the SFX psus

https://www.minisforum.com/pages/ai-x1-pro This would be kinda nice but having a GPU connected with Oculink is kinda meh

[gentle osprey]

air flow

[deft raptor]

I have been hearing about gigabyte being good mobo brand, does asrock is on the same level of it ?

[sharp badger]

Many prefer Asrock over Gigabyte, i've been happy with the current Gigabyte i've got though

[umbral heron]

AsRock makes good motherboards

GPUs too... just their RGB software is an absolute pain in the ass to use

[magic minnow]

I have a gigabyte I like it

Always used Asus before this one

[sharp badger]

I just use OpenRGB

[deft raptor]

I was on asus then now currrently MSI AM4

[umbral heron]

Didn't work, it didn't detect the GPU
I had to use their own weird tool, but thankfully you can save to onboard memory and forget about it

[sharp badger]

Maybe it wasn't supported?

[deft raptor]

Well, the fate of my am4 is sealed when I chose to install 5700x3d to extend my pc's current gaming life then in future might buy AM6 skipping AM5

[fair gull]

no

[magic minnow]

I’m hoping MSI announces their itx line up this month and I’ll swap over to them if they bring an equivalent of this to AM5

[fair gull]

i still cant change my boot logo

[sharp badger]

It can find the one i've got though

[deft raptor]

rgb control is done via i2c protocols

[fair gull]

wmic baseboard get product,Manufacturer,version

in cmd

and your good to go

also helpful when some of those arent populated by the manufacturer
ASRock X670E PG Lightning Default string

[umbral heron]

Yeah, ASRock Polychrome is very not good at all to drive via external software
On previous board I used Arduino which was sending RGB signal to fans and stuff

Besides I don't want to have RBG software running in background

[nimble arch]

At least Windows 11 provides that as an OS feature now (even if it is kinda ass at times)

[undone sun]

what are good fans for the lian li o11 vision? thought abt some cheap ones like thes

[reef patrol]

Do you want a good fan, or RGB?

[sudden imp]

I feel like intel gets all the good itx boards

[unkempt lake]

Msi pog

[magic minnow]

That mobo would be perfect for me ;3;

With all the usb ports and the M.2 slots

[unkempt lake]

Asrock's bios makes me vomit in my mouth a little

But their boards are good hardware wise

They just... suck at software

Hell even Gigabyte's bios is better than asrock's

And gigabyte's bios is shit too

Like... basic ui design crap

Also gigabyte's rgb fusion crap is also bad

[sudden imp]

I feel like all bios isn't great

nobody will ever rival EVGA

RIP MY MAN

[unkempt lake]

Evga more like never even bothered updating the bios of the last mobo they ever released

Rip those people

[sudden imp]

they really died with their gpus

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-technology-patrick-hung-gif-5567497

[cursive summit]

Good god AMD sales are slaughtering Intel

Why are there two numbers though, is one GPUs and other CPUs?

[ashen spindle]

one retailer does not show an accurate picture

[cursive summit]

One thing is obvious though, Intel is struggling

[astral haven]

ah yes "struggling"

[ashen spindle]

these sales numbers mean nothing in the whole picture

[umbral heron]

They can struggle all they want, in the end government will bail them out regardless

But they are not... because of governmental and corporate contracts

[astral haven]

nah, they were removed from nasdaq, they will have to do some serious bribery to be bailed out

[cursive summit]

I mean, yeah. But at some point if Intel fails to bounce back, U.S gov might just decide to merge Intel with another company.

Intel will do fine though, they are posting negative profits but they'll just minimize expenses, cut some divisions

[marsh glade]

Intel is a curious company when viewed from the singular perspective of the US Department of Defense

[umbral heron]

Wasn't that Dow Jones?

[astral haven]

oh yea got that backwards

still in ndasdaq, out of djia

[marsh glade]

Their fabs on US soil are national security assets

[astral haven]

maybe

TI , micron, and IBM sure, but we can drop intel now probably

[marsh glade]

Maybe

You know my opinion is that Intel couldn't innovate their way out of a paperbag

But that doesn't mean that they aren't "too big to fail"

[umbral heron]

Still, their contracts with HP, Dell and Amazon are more than enough to comfortably keep them afloat

[astral haven]

they have to honor the contracts tho

and despite their falures, intel does have an excellent track record of honoring contracts

[gentle osprey]

I don’t have a problem with MSI but I can’t rock that dragon in my builds

Not a fan lol

I used to have an MSI mobo and just don’t like the dragon

[marsh glade]

The collectible dragons you get with a 5090 from MSI not tickle your fancy?

[gentle osprey]

Lmao

[magic minnow]

Benefit of using mesh case won’t have to see the inside

[marsh glade]

Only need to spend 22 grand to get them all, assuming you get no duplicates

[magic minnow]

Wait is that a thing

[gentle osprey]

Was that actually true? To spend that much to get them all?

I didn’t look into it lol

[gentle osprey]

Yes

[sudden imp]

20K+ MINIMUM

[magic minnow]

Imagine if they all connected to form the 5090ti

[sudden imp]

cheap plastics is certainly a plus clearllyyy

[marsh glade]

https://youtu.be/WlND7pFg2pk?t=282

[gloomy niche]

Does anyone know how to use the wooting 60he on ps5

[gentle osprey]

Ah yeah I watched that, he did talk about it lol

[magic minnow]

I can’t wait for the 5090

[gentle osprey]

Mark have you considered adding axial fans, circles, and dual TUF balls into the Wooting design?

[marsh glade]

Three circles maybe yea

So perfect

[magic minnow]

Did you guys ever think of adding a nub?

[marsh glade]

I think nipple is the technical term

[astral haven]

trackpoint unfortunately is a ™️

[unkempt lake]

just buy them on ebay

[sudden imp]

All I could think of when they were saying that was the video of the girl going “very demure, very mindful”

[vagrant pagoda]

ive always head a different anatomy used for it

[dawn pecan]

is this a good final build

or should i replace anything

[ashen spindle]

get a 30$ thermalright aircooler

[unkempt lake]

I dont understand why people love wasting money on aios

[ashen spindle]

oh its very simple, for years you had no good cheap air coolers and water is good at cooling and chips used to run hot

[unkempt lake]

But like... we've had good aircoolers for a while now

Why hasn't this went in people heads

By now

[ashen spindle]

because why would someone know if they check when they buy new pcs which is like once every blue moon

[unkempt lake]

Hell even an older noctua was good and cheaper than the aios fron back then

[ashen spindle]

depends, there were decent cheap aios and now you just see them cheaper you assume thats the obvious go to

[lyric hatch]

aios look cooler same reason people have RGB on everything

[crisp granite]

you could get a liquid freezer II 240 for less than a D15 most of the time

believe that's still the case with the liquid freezer III

Arctic AIOs are GOOD

[ashen spindle]

lf3 isnt that great

[lyric hatch]

lf 3 360 is the best gamers nexus tested in their Best CPU coolers video that came out a month ago

[ashen spindle]

yes but other tests have shown it doesnt quite match up that and depends how much you load the cpu vs gpu in a case too

[lyric hatch]

think the quote from the full review is "it's the best, but it could be even better"

[ashen spindle]

yes but they also say to never just look at one review and others like tomshardware have found the LF3 to be a bit lacking compared to to other AiO options

[dawn pecan]

i like how aios look :c

whats a good ssd

is klevv any good

[bright briar]

are there bench marks out yet for the 5080 and 5090?

[dawn pecan]

are western digitals any good

[astral haven]

no

[astral haven]

most of them, not greens tho

[trim crane]

I used to spend money on AIOs but I find the reliability, practicality, and longevity of air coolers much nicer imo

[gentle osprey]

I've never had any issues with AIOs personally and I prefer the aesthetic over a giant metal block on my CPU

plus my aio has a 6 year warranty and a 3 year warranty for any parts it damages if it leaks

[lyric hatch]

you mean the same Toms Hardware which has testing methodology nobody else uses for cpu cooler testing because it doesn't make any sense?

also this part is hilarious considering they tested on a 13700k

[astral haven]

gns testing is unique

tomshardware is at least similar to techpowerup's testing

[lyric hatch]

yeah but tpu tested both intel and amd and came to a completely different conclusion

[astral haven]

yea its almost like intel and amd are very different to cool

[modern sky]

Im thinking about it day and night tbh, I used to have one in my old laptop and its actually incredibly comfortable to use once you learn how to do it

Its a reason why I might unironically go with a thinkpad for my uni laptop despite their bad battery life

[lyric hatch]

Well the Intel socket bracket was borked and using a third party one fixed the thermal issues which both gamersnexus and tpu cover but is missing in the Tom's hardware coverage for some reason

[astral haven]

🤷 rando on the internet will just use the instructions on the box, so that should be how the performance is tested

[lyric hatch]

Well it's fine for all those AMD users which dare I say might be the majority of people nowadays

[astral haven]

the amd users who probably cant even max out a 120 air cooler

[lyric hatch]

Well that's an entirely different arguement

[astral haven]

the argument that amd has already overclocked the snot out of their processors and yet they emit so little heat that its fine on a 120 air cooler?

[lyric hatch]

Yeah nobody needs this cooler on an AMD cpu

But if you want the best cooler on the market

That's it

[astral haven]

is it tho?

[lyric hatch]

In everyone's testing aside from Tom's hardware yes

[astral haven]

i dont think so

[lyric hatch]

I should clarify best performing cooler

[astral haven]

also no

its the lowest temperature at some noise levels and price points

but if you want really quiet when not loaded, liquid is not the way to go

and if you want min temps, aio is not the way to go

but if you only have $100 and you want min temps, then maybe

[trim crane]

I love the placement of the power connector on this card so much

[gusty kiln]

@astral haven one of the arms on my xreal broke, but it seems like everyone gets 1 free replacement

[astral haven]

neat

mine probably wont get a chance to break since i never use it

[gusty kiln]

rip

[astral haven]

wish it didnt make me sick 🤢

[gusty kiln]

oh yeah

guess you're waiting for the next VR milestone

[astral haven]

Got to try the Pimax crystal light and its siiiick

Also the meganex, also sick

But I really want something standaloneable at least for watching vids

[gentle osprey]

So what’s the best then lol

If everyone seems to be wrong

[astral haven]

As always it depends
But usually loooop

[gusty kiln]

Samsung XR seems interesting

[astral haven]

But for 99% of folks can't max out single tower 120,should just go with a cheap dual tower and spend the cash on better other components

[gentle osprey]

I agree

I know some people want AIO for the looks tho

But yeah it does really depend

[astral haven]

Idk wasn't at ces 😦
Also where specs

[gusty kiln]

soon tm

[lyric hatch]

Preaching to the choir I've had my NH-D15 a long time, but the original point was that the AF3 "isn't that great"

[astral haven]

Sure but aesthetics isn't performance.

[gentle osprey]

For some it is /s
But yeah I mean nowadays a lot of air coolers can compete with AIOs and for a cheaper price

[astral haven]

Its not
Its pretty similar temps to all the other aios if you spend an equal amount of time mounting and remounting them
And that is very similar to the dual towers...

Like if everyone was going Threadripper and xeon W, sure, aio it up

But no everyone is going am5
And mostly x3d on top of that

[lyric hatch]

That's seems like just a blanket statement for every AIO not the AF3 though

In terms of AIOs it is great

[astral haven]

Fkn block of aluminum Intel extrusion is gonna get you the same performance

[dawn pecan]

once the 5070 and the 5070 ti drops, how long do yall think the shipping will take?

[lyric hatch]

From every reputable review that not Tom's hardware it's great

[astral haven]

From every review that I've seen that's not Gamers Nexus, it's pretty middling.

[astral haven]

What cooler doesn't have excellent performance tho

[unkempt lake]

I feel like people are hating DLSS4 but whenever the 50 series launches people will be like oh my moumou this is amazing

[astral haven]

No, they won't because they won't be buying this because the cheapest one's over 500 bucks.

[gentle osprey]

DLSS4 has good improvements

Don’t listen to everyone

[balmy vector]

only stinker is 4x mfg

[unkempt lake]

I mean frame gen as a whole seems pretty controversial

[gentle osprey]

Yeah that people can hate on if they want lol but at the same time if they can reduce latency and it looks better and feels better then why not

[unkempt lake]

I don't have an nvidia gpu but it works well in certain games

Its situational mostly

In some games it works in some games it doesn't

[lyric hatch]

haven't used it but I'm expecting disappoint but willing to be pleasantly surprised

[unkempt lake]

Like playing path of exile right now with AFMF2 a game with a static camera... i literally can't see anything wierd about the image

And the latency increase is so small i don't notice it

[gentle osprey]

I mean they put more money into R&D than anyone else so I’d expect it to be better

[unkempt lake]

I wonder when nvidia will make an AFMF2 equivalent

That works in everything

Without dev support needed

Pretty sure that wasn't added to dlss4 yet

[gusty kiln]

why would they when it already works on 85% of everything

[unkempt lake]

It... doesn't

Anything older

Or games with an fps cap

[astral haven]

I'm still salty that the tech that VR uses to re-project forward and reduce latency isn't being used

[unkempt lake]

Or hell even some modern games

[gentle osprey]

We get Frame Warp instead

[astral haven]

Actually, frame warp is pretty close to reprojection maybe?

[gentle osprey]

I think so, haven’t looked into VR much recently tbh

[lyric hatch]

"support for the 4:2:2 pro-grade color format, multiview-HEVC (MV-HEVC) for 3D and VR video, and support for the new AV1 Ultra High Quality mode"

[astral haven]

Still "14ms" claimed is worse than vr's 0ms

[trim crane]

im excited for the new encoders and decoders

[unkempt lake]

Meanwhile me who literally never records anything couldn't care less

[astral haven]

This would have been huge
Except it's still cheaper to grab a 40 series and an intel card...

[trim crane]

also 2 slot FE cards with the 12V-2x6 placed like a 30 series FE card's 12 pin molex connector

[lyric hatch]

well at least you won't need both now

[trim crane]

teeny cards

[astral haven]

As a loop person I'm disappointed that I'll probably be stuck buying a pre blocked card 😦

And if I even do that I'm not sure yet

Fe is already an insane amount of cash

Who knows it might be more than RTX 50%

If it's able to drive 4k240 most of the time I might just do it

I did ask for a 512b gpu

[lyric hatch]

Do we know die size that's gotta be a chonker

744mm were the rumors

Still puts it under the 2080 ti but that's a big boy

[marsh pewter]

rate my GPU sag

its pretty bad

hard to see in that photo but its pretty bad

[gentle osprey]

about 2 degree deviation

[marsh pewter]

fair

I needa get a support bracket alr lol

[gentle osprey]

how long has it been like that

[marsh pewter]

true

[marsh pewter]

forever

ok its not THAT bad

[unkempt lake]

pcb go crack

[quiet remnant]

oh nah I just took out my gpu support yesterday Ima put that shit back in immediatly if thats the result

[marsh pewter]

this was over like 3 years

[quiet remnant]

alright Im putting it in

[unkempt lake]

i like the over the top support that came with my xfx card

xfx just be like have a big ass piece of metal

then again i feel like my 7900xtx weighs enough that i could bludgeon someone to death wit hit

[severe phoenix]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/yeston-reveals-geforce-rtx-50-sakura-and-sakura-atlantis-gpus

[stray jacinth]

Man I remember when I had a XFX 7900XTX right next to my 6800 XT

It's big

[unkempt lake]

Indeed

large chungus

[dawn pecan]

for the arctic liquid freezer III 360 do i need to buy a amd mount

[halcyon moss]

You don't need an aio

[wheat yacht]

Yo monkeys did they drop the pricing for AIB cards

[rough osprey]

You need an aio

[gentle osprey]

You don't need a PC

[digital cliff]

you don't need a body, I have already transferred my consciousness to the internet

[halcyon moss]

You don't need the internet, I've ascended to pure energy

[severe phoenix]

https://youtu.be/vybLi25Q8Fw

wtf

[unkempt lake]

wtf

x2

WHY IS LINUS ON TV

[severe phoenix]

And he's cringier than usual

His voice breaks several times lol

[analog sinew]

did he drop sth

[severe phoenix]

He also tried making some anime / waifu jokes that nobody got

https://tenor.com/view/linus-pog-linustechtips-poggers-pogchamp-gif-17411429

[distant tapir]

Does even a single audience member know who he is

[severe phoenix]

I'm sure at least SOME do like he's decentlyish well known

I just can't imagine how the fuck he got on

[unkempt lake]

The hard R

[whole axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KjKW9C

Updated build

W?

[analog sinew]

[analog sinew]

18$ cooler in a 5090 build

nice meme

[whole axle]

A cooler that perfectly works for the 9800x3d

How is that a meme?

I save money there

[umbral heron]

If you don't need X870-specific features you can save some more by swapping it to B650 motherboard

[unkempt lake]

wan show on live tv

lets gooo

I sleep now

[whole axle]

I would if I could find one with pcie5 for the 5090. I know benchmarks aren’t out but I’m sure it’ll be better to have it since it supports it. From what I’ve seen I can’t find one lmao

[unkempt lake]

Night people

[whole axle]

Night Brodie

[umbral heron]

Most B650s have PCIe 5

Besides 5090 for sure won't need it, 4090 barely maxes out 3.0

[whole axle]

Maybe I was looking at the wrong thing???

[whole axle]

I figured but bigger number means better

Idk I was trying to build a 5+ year lasting pc but with best price to performance in mind. So I just figured getting newer board would make it all perform better?if that makes sense cal lmao

[umbral heron]

Oop, right, B650 has 5.0 M.2 and 4.0 x16
B650E and B850 have 5.0 x16 ones
But still, X870 is really only when you want to go for overclocking and/or multiple GPU setup, you can save quite some money by going with B650E if you want 5.0 x16

[whole axle]

Ah okay I thought the e boards were for WiFi only

Cuz I’m on Ethernet so it wouldn’t be needed

[umbral heron]

[whole axle]

Which board should I do? If you have a recommendation?

[trim crane]

I defo went overkill on my board (X870-I STRIX)

but i heard the B650E-I and B850-I STRIX boards are really nice

they dont sacrifice much

at least for mini itx

what form factor?

[sturdy raven]

Anyone selling their 4090 and getting a 5070?

[whole axle]

Atx

Or whatever regular is

[trim crane]

yeah ATX

[umbral heron]

It's really up to which one you prefer how it looks nowadays, I like ASRock stuff, because it's great when it comes to price/quality
B650E Steel Legend WiFi seem to be popular for example

[whole axle]

I’m just looking for best price to performance that won’t sacrifice any performance lmao. And black if it can be

[umbral heron]

B650E Taichi is also nice

[trim crane]

asrock has insane value, and you can also try to snag the X870 Tomahawk for a really good price

[whole axle]

Looks don’t matter to me to be honest. Just good price. Good performance. And not a dumb bios

[trim crane]

i think there may be a B850 variant too maybe?

X870 Tomahawk I heard has great features, rich I/O and a polished BIOS/UEFI and I would imagine its B850 variant to also have the same treatment?

[umbral heron]

B650E Steel Legend then

[whole axle]

Ok I lied

I don’t want white 😭

[umbral heron]

[trim crane]

is there a Taichi Lite

[umbral heron]

B650E PG RIPTIDE maybe then

[whole axle]

Yes but it’s like $600

[trim crane]

which is basically no RGB version of taichi? or the phantom gaming versions for less money?

[whole axle]

I did look at that! However that brand looks a little sketch

[trim crane]

asrock is really good

[whole axle]

Especially since I have them rn and the bios is a nightmare