🔌│tech

[cedar fog]

4090 seems like a better deal

[ashen spindle]

your decision, but I certainly would

[rain quiver]

But like whats the threshold

[cedar fog]

especially still getting all those software features of dlss

besides the 4x frames

[rain quiver]

I hate fake frames so im not interested in that AI bs

[cedar fog]

but that's gonna have higher latency anyway

[ashen spindle]

well you can save 700 and dont stand in waiting for an entire night infront of a store (who worst case could not have enough for you or didnt get the shipment in time etc.)

[gentle osprey]

Well considering the ASUS STRIX 4090 for example is $2000 MSRP, finding one of those used for $1300 would be odd, maybe closer to 1700-1800 for that model specifically just as an exmaple

[rain quiver]

But its gonna be a used card thats the only downside

[ashen spindle]

sure but unless they like put out cigars into it, thats not going to matter

[cedar fog]

I see a 4090 on ebay for $1000 rn

[rain quiver]

But at the same time 5090’s will not lose any of their value at all

[gentle osprey]

Could be a scammer

[cedar fog]

true

[gentle osprey]

Tons of scammers

[rain quiver]

Yeah im not buying off ebay

Only offerup/facebook (in person) or hardware swap

[gentle osprey]

Esp those $800 4090s from China

def scams

[cedar fog]

ebay has decent buyer protection if you use the site properly

[wheat yacht]

I’ve seen a bunch of 4090s drop in price rn ngl

[cedar fog]

• a credit card

[rain quiver]

I also gotta sell my 4080s

[wheat yacht]

But it’s in those lil shady aftermarket ones

[rain quiver]

Ok ill defo try to get a 4090 then

[wheat yacht]

Be a lil careful

[gentle osprey]

New Egg offers $1350 for 4090 TRADE IN

[wheat yacht]

Make sure you have buyers protection

[rain quiver]

I only meet inside police stations

[wheat yacht]

From whoever you get it

Ye that’s good

[cedar fog]

that's a good deal

if u just wanted to upgrade anyway

[gentle osprey]

wonder if they give more based on model

[rain quiver]

Theres literally a 4090 FE for $1400 near me so ill try to negotiate even tho the description says firm price

[ashen spindle]

yeah cant hurt to try

[cedar fog]

so what's peoples estimates on 5090 performance gains

[wheat yacht]

Let bro know the 50 series comes out at the end of the month

He isn’t getting msrp for a 4090

[rain quiver]

We already know its 20%-25% better than a 4090

[cedar fog]

people keep saying 30% I feel like it's gonna be lower

like 20%

[rain quiver]

While consuming 25% more and costing 25% more

So its a finesse

[unkempt lake]

Always found the idea of selling an old gpu BEFORE buying a new one

Strange

Why not buy the new gpu then sell the old one

[gusty kiln]

no liquid cash

[unkempt lake]

Then you shouldn't buy a gpu as you're clearly not doing well enough financially

[rain quiver]

Yeah thats how im gonna get one for a good price, i promise you some people do NOT care and just wanna sell it to upgrade

Best time to buy last gen

[rain quiver]

Exactly, im holding on to my current gpu until i replace it

[gentle osprey]

That's how I do it personally

[ashen spindle]

because the idea is the price drops even more then so you get more selling it before

[cedar fog]

idk I feel like it's fine to do that

[gentle osprey]

just incase new hardware has any issues , I'll still have my 4090

[ashen spindle]

alos no liquid cash != cant afford it

[cedar fog]

realistically the value of your GPU will go down with time

usually

[gentle osprey]

Yep

I'm not gonna get $2000 for my 4090 lol

[unkempt lake]

There's a difference between buying able to buy something and being able to afford it

I think if you don't have access to the liquid cash you're clearly making a bad financial decision

[rain quiver]

I already see a few people selling for $1350-$1450 so this will be easy

Just need to pick a decent brand

[gentle osprey]

Nice

[cedar fog]

you may have access to liquid cash by liquidating assets

[wheat yacht]

Yeah resellers kinda get cooked

[cedar fog]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wheat yacht]

But if you have a 4090 I don’t see any reason for a upgrade

[ashen spindle]

if I have 50k in cash just stuck in bonds till next month its a bad financial decision? wouldnt call it that

[gentle osprey]

Take out a loan against stocks and buy 5090, EZ

[wheat yacht]

Even a 4080 should be good for a while until at least the 60 series

[rain quiver]

My 4080 is crying i need it gone asap

Im worried even the 4090 wont be able to keep up with upcoming games

[cedar fog]

lots of people operate in "debt"

[rain quiver]

Cuz yk devs will just rely on fg

[cedar fog]

I mean even using a credit card before you have the money to pay it off

like you get paid biweekly or smth

[gentle osprey]

Credit Cards are a scam

get rid of em

[wheat yacht]

What games are you tryna play

[cedar fog]

I like credit cards

[rain quiver]

Triple A games at 4k

Thats all i play

[wheat yacht]

Do you have a 4k monitor

[unkempt lake]

If I use mine I pay it off immediately within my bank's app

[rain quiver]

Yes otherwise i wouldn’t play at 4k 😂

[cedar fog]

cash back + better protection

the only downside to a credit card is being irresponsible

[wheat yacht]

You’d be surprised the people that do it and don’t even have monitors to support 4k

[gentle osprey]

Pretty sure I know a guy with a 4090 playing 1080p still

[cedar fog]

based

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-12016032281853623374

[gentle osprey]

I can't remember what they told me

probs in a DM somewhere

[cedar fog]

well the real question is what is their monitors refresh rate

[gentle osprey]

I think it was 144hz or something

[cedar fog]

NOOooo

[gentle osprey]

wasn't crazy

[cedar fog]

that is just stupid

[unkempt lake]

Aaaa

[cedar fog]

I'm enjoying the increase in these dual mode monitors

[gentle osprey]

Me too, makes me want one now

That new LG GX9 Lineup piques my interest

[cedar fog]

I need one that's like 4k 120hz

[gusty kiln]

there's a miniled dual mode at CES

[cedar fog]

to like 2k 360hz

[gentle osprey]

https://www.lgnewsroom.com/2024/12/lg-unveils-worlds-first-bendable-5k2k-gaming-monitor-winner-of-three-awards-at-ces-2025/

Check these out if you haven't already

[gusty kiln]

so far it's usually 4k 180/1080p 360 or 160/320hz

[gentle osprey]

I would prefer QD-OLED but WOLED getting better so I'm still interested in these

[balmy vector]

I quite like woled

[gentle osprey]

Yeah just perference I think really, both have their pros and cons

[balmy vector]

Mhm

[nimble arch]

WOLED gang

I got webOS 24 on my LG C2 today. No Dolby Vision for PC until LG backport webOS 25 next year. I do have Dolby Vision Filmmaker preset for using any media apps though.

[placid token]

Hey, I ordered a 80he module but didnt get any case or cables am I supposed to get it or do I need to buy it? https://gyazo.com/e21d787588863711e57503e2c51dce03

[steady sail]

u need to buy it

[ashen spindle]

The point of the module is for people who want a different case

[unkempt lake]

Guys... what would we call an ultrawide display wider than 32:9

Mega ultrawide?

🤔

[rain quiver]

I got them to lower the FE price to $1350 they wont do $1300

Still worth it?

[analog sinew]

Big Chungus

[cedar fog]

seamless dual monitor

[rain quiver]

Of the 4090

[unkempt lake]

Big moumounitor

[cedar fog]

$1350 is worth

is it used or new?

[ashen spindle]

Yeah that’s a good deal I’d say

[cedar fog]

you're getting below MSRP on a card that's probably 25% less powerful

what is that like

$700 less or smth than a 5090

[rain quiver]

Used

[rain quiver]

And no tax

So even less

[reef patrol]

You're going to have a non-functional keyboard. You DO need the case.

[gentle osprey]

Doesn't seem like a bad choice but I'd maybe recommend not rushing into buying it, wait for 5000 series benchmarks and who knows you maybe even find one for cheaper

[rain quiver]

I feel like 40 series prices will go back up again when 50 is out

Because ppl wont be panic selling anymore + stock issues like always

[nimble arch]

32:9 displays are usually referred to as super ultrawide

[rain quiver]

45 minute drive im cooked

[unkempt lake]

But i'm talking

Even wider

[nimble arch]

Is there even anything wider?

[unkempt lake]

What if there was

[nimble arch]

Can't really answer that until they exist

[gentle osprey]

Gib 21:10

[rain quiver]

Oo he said pay $50 extra and he’ll drive the full 90 minutes and let me test it at my place

Seems worth right? Its a FE with the box adapter and receipt

[cedar fog]

mm yeah

just make sure u got tests ready

[rain quiver]

Like furmark?

Smh i wanted to shower but guess not

[cedar fog]

I mean something to stress test it

then try to verify serial #

make sure it's legit

[rain quiver]

How do i do that

[cedar fog]

should be on the box n on the card usually

[rain quiver]

Oh match it up with the one on gpu z?

[cedar fog]

Nvidia control panel usually shows info too

[gentle osprey]

Should be a sticker on the backplate near the PCIe bracket that shows serial number

[cedar fog]

but u could enter it into like RMA check

to see if it shows up on Nvidia's side

[rain quiver]

And match that one up with the one on the box?

[gentle osprey]

Then go to manufacturer website and check warranty with that serial number

[rain quiver]

Hes gonna be here in 45 hopefully i dont get kidnapped

[umbral heron]

GPU in itself doesn't store its serial number, you have to check on backplate/near PCI connector, and check if it matches one on the box and if it's available on manufacturer's verification site
For stressing you can use 3DMark or Unigine

[rain quiver]

Okay will do thank you

Gotta prepare all that now before he arrives

[cedar fog]

yeah don't get scazammed

[rain quiver]

He seemed too desperate to sell tho hopefully its actually a good deal

[gentle osprey]

He getting prepared for 5090

wants to have his money ready

[rain quiver]

Yeah true

[analog sinew]

huh the FE has the angled 12v2x6 connector

[balmy vector]

I like the fe cards too much

Wish i had one

[analog sinew]

idgaf about what one i get tbh

on the angled connector i dont need a 90° cable

probbaly gonna buy it anyway

and maybe return it

[cedar fog]

guys just wait for the 6000 series to come out

it's not worth getting only 4x frames

[analog sinew]

nah 7000series

[cedar fog]

10x frames is what you need

[balmy vector]

Nah 90 series

[umbral heron]

I want my frames AI-hallucinated

[balmy vector]

Next well have ai hallucinated games

[cedar fog]

you can already get partial ai hallucinations by the reflex 2 in painting

we're inching closer and closer

[rain quiver]

Fake frames

And only in games that support it

[cedar fog]

it is a lot of games tbf

plus they have a feature to like inject the new version

[rain quiver]

Guys do i have to reinstall drivers to test the 4090?

I have 4080 super drivers installed

[steady sail]

no

[rain quiver]

So it will perform fine without doing that

[umbral heron]

It's the same driver for all Nvidia cards aaaaaall the way back to GTX700s

[rain quiver]

Oh okay

Ok i just need to find some reference points for furmark and whatever

So i know what to compare

Or isnt it better to just test it in games

I know what my 4080 super performs like and i know the difference between it and the 4090

So maybe thats enough

[cedar fog]

mm I mean the stress test would probably help you figure out if it has any hardware issues faster

[umbral heron]

FurMark for GPU burning

[rain quiver]

Whats the best stress test to use?

Ok furmark thanks

[steady sail]

3D mark

[umbral heron]

3DMark and Unigine for stressing and benchmarking, FurMark if you want to push it to absolute limits of power consumption

[steady sail]

yeah

[cedar fog]

do you know when they bought the gpu

wonder if it's still under warranty

[rain quiver]

Oh no i dont wanna do that i only have 850w thats risky

[rain quiver]

It is

Hes emailing me the receipt

I already have unigine heaven tho

And cinebench

[umbral heron]

For 450W an 850W PSU... you'll be fine

[rain quiver]

If you say so

Anyone know the 4090 scores by heart? Lol

Or like a normal range

[steady sail]

nope

[cedar fog]

no idea

[steady sail]

i could tell u some scores on 3Dmark

port royal scores with 4090

[umbral heron]

Will depend on CPU you have, RAM speed, etc.
Just check on benchmark websites

[rain quiver]

Ok thank you

[umbral heron]

https://www.3dmark.com/search
https://benchmark.unigine.com/leaderboards
https://gpumagick.com/scores/

[rain quiver]

Ok im gonna take that unigine one since its the only stress test i have out of those

Thank you

[gentle osprey]

Waiting for x20 frames

Like lossless scaling has

[rain quiver]

I wanted real frames

Otherwise i woulda gone 5090

[gentle osprey]

Yeah like I said before, I think rasterization has hit a bottleneck

[umbral heron]

Or that's an excuse which Nvidia is force-feeding us, and which conveniently suits game studios, less work and everything

[rain quiver]

Obviously cuz they wanna push AI

[cedar fog]

yeah I think it's more Nvidia

[rain quiver]

It makes more money and lets devs be lazy

Win win for everyone except us

[cedar fog]

has more business partnerships

ai is what makes them money rn

[rain quiver]

Why you think no game is optimized anymore

If they optimize games then no one will need FG

So it will hit nvidia

[umbral heron]

Everyone is in awe how good the games look
And yet Nvidia showcases Cyberpunk 2077 still, and everything newer is either smeary or stuttery mess

[rain quiver]

And if nvidia stops pushing fake frames then devs will have to actually go back to working

[cedar fog]

I don't think it's Nvidia's fault entirely

for profit publicly traded companies

they've slowly been absorbed into larger groups

and then they want faster development cycles

[gentle osprey]

Why invest in raw rasterization when FSR and DLSS can fool most humans eyes and be good enough

[cedar fog]

nvidia has launched some cool stuff for game engines alongside 5090 tho

[steady sail]

not bad

[cedar fog]

I think Nvidia's goal right now

is to platform lock people

like console exclusives used to do

and still do

[gentle osprey]

And I also don’t think it’s just Nvidia, games like FF16 apparently can’t even run without resolution upscalers

[cedar fog]

oh u want that u need a Nvidia card

best looking games need a Nvidia card

etc

[balmy vector]

Hair and particles is their worst enemy

[rain quiver]

@umbral heron Sorry for ping but how sure are you that a 850w psu is enough for a 4090

[nimble arch]

NVIDIA going from "the way it's meant to be played" to "the way it can only be played"

[gentle osprey]

100% sure

850w is enough

[umbral heron]

Yeah
Why would they spend time and effort optimizing games, when they can just slap DLSS and pat themselves on the back

[rain quiver]

Okay nice thanks

[umbral heron]

Yup, it sure is

[rain quiver]

Bet thanks

[cedar fog]

unfortunately the input latency hit makes upscaling and frame gen feel awful to me

[steady sail]

i wanna get a 4090 as well one day

[cedar fog]

and it looks even worse on engines like unreal where the fake frames sample

blurry static shit

[lyric hatch]

Well xbox and Playstation don't have DLSS so I don't think anybody is designing games with it in mind

[cedar fog]

PS5 has upscaling now

idk about xbox

[lyric hatch]

Yeah but not dlss

[balmy vector]

Wouldnt regular ps5 and xbox use fsr?

[gentle osprey]

Yeah part of me thinks some of it is laziness or just simply being a new dev that’s never used said engine, for example Helldivers CEO said they used their old engine instead of a new one because they knew that’s what they were comfortable with and had experience with

So I think a lot of these devs are just new to UE5

Not necessarily lazy

Just don’t know how to optimize properly yet

[cedar fog]

i mean part of the issue with unreal engine is it's such a large engine

versus inhouse engines they could check performance hits of stuff

n just got optimize it

[balmy vector]

Wondering how late-stage UE5 will go

[cedar fog]

lot harder in unreal

[gentle osprey]

That and UE5 has its own problems

[balmy vector]

Compared to late stage ue4

[gentle osprey]

Which are being fixed

Which is nice to see

[cedar fog]

yeah they've been a lot better with including performance fixes

in each new release

[rain quiver]

Ok hes 3 minutes away ima pray i dont get traffo

Trafficked

[cedar fog]

still waiting on the full engine multi threading

[umbral heron]

Thing is there's now way bigger dev turnover rate too
Lots of studios use UE5 nowadays, so lots of new devs to hire, but also to replace them with
So they can get devs only for short-term, where they won't even be familiar with the project to optimize it, but studios can replace them and avoid paying higher paychecks and giving them benefits in the long-term

[cedar fog]

yeah true

[balmy vector]

Yeah lots of contractors

[cedar fog]

like what was that one game Palia

bro they fired like their whole team basically

after release

:/

[lyric hatch]

Simply the way it is with an industry lots of people want to get into, there's 50 people waiting if you don't want to do the work

[cedar fog]

nah some studios it's just release IP

fire lots of people and go into maintenance mode

[gentle osprey]

Truth

[lyric hatch]

Yeah but the reason they can do that is there's enough people willing to work under those conditions that they can just keep doing that

[cedar fog]

true

then so many spinoff game companies and new ips

rinse and repeat

old employees start company

indie game developers are superior

well that reminds me that like unreal engine for fortnite, s&box, garry's mod, roblox, etc

once it's like super easy for indie developers you'll just get platform fee's that are wayy higher

[gentle osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/f1YrfK5Zi7I?si=17U8TyHcMyunetjZ

[shut vector]

can anyone help me fix steam issue? keep getting

this

[rain quiver]

Any idea why it wont boot

4080 super works fine

[gentle osprey]

Are daisy chaining 2 of those cables?

Looks like you're only using 2x8 pin cables and daisy chaining the rest

which you're not supposed to do

Each of those cables only supports 150W

Each one is supposed to have it's own cable

[fair gull]

easy fix have a psu that just has a 12vhpwr directly

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I hate these octopus adapters lol I got a custom cable

and yeah the new ATX 3.0 PSUs have em

[fair gull]

apparently mine is atx3.1

didnt even know thats a thing

[gentle osprey]

Yeah the 3.1 is just more efficient

less hold up time

[fair gull]

oh its not 12vhpwr but 12v-2x6

so the improved 12vhpwr

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

[fair gull]

good to know

i unknowingly bought the good stuff

[balmy vector]

Gambled and won

[analog sinew]

i am just about to buy my atx3.1 psu lol

[fair gull]

lol i just bought the cheapest 1000w psu i found that was modular

[analog sinew]

what brand?

[fair gull]

i honestly expected to need the adapter for my 4090

[balmy vector]

Basically gambling

[fair gull]

corsair rm1000e v2

[nimble arch]

I already have a cable that's rated for 600W so I'm ready for the 5090 that I'm not even getting

[analog sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1111708083756998676.webp?size=96&animated=true

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I'm still rocking my Corsair RM1000x from 2021

Zero issues

Corsair PSUs are also made by Seasonic so

[fair gull]

ill prob rebuy the same stuff i run rn but with the new 9800x3d/9950x3d, 5090 and a smaller cpu cooler if the 9xxx cpus run as hot as the 7800x3d

[gentle osprey]

and Seasonic be the best

[latent mural]

guys is there a way for me to reamap a key to be mutiple impuits (EG shift+alt+R) so that i can link it to my amd adrenaline for hotkeys

[fair gull]

actually maybe a different mobo

[nimble arch]

I'd love to do an ITX 9800X3D + 5090 build but I don't need a full new system at this point

[latent mural]

im lookin i dont see an option

[fair gull]

the one i got sucks with the d15 and gpu placement

only way to reach the pcie latch is a screwdriver

[gentle osprey]

Lol, yeah if I get an FE Model I'll need to use my regular 12vhpwr cable cause right now I'm using a 90 degree angled cable

[latent mural]

oh wait is that what dynamic keystroke is for

[ashen spindle]

98x3d runs cooler because the heat isnt trapped beneath the cache die now

[gentle osprey]

^^^

[fair gull]

guess a smaller noctua it is then

still gonna see for other mobo options.

[gentle osprey]

which is nice cause the 7000 series chips were already easier to cool than Intel chips lol

[nimble arch]

Luckily my North XL has enough room to curve the cable without it being a sharp turn

[gentle osprey]

now even easier

Can chuck a $35 air cooler on it and call it a day

[nimble arch]

Noctua's low profile cooler seems to work really well with the 9800X3D

[rain quiver]

Youre right

[analog sinew]

same same. I'm buying a 90°cable just incase. never know what youll get

[gentle osprey]

Ah nice, I wanted that case at one point but ended up with a Lancool 3

plenty of space lol

[glass falcon]

one question i have a 240 hz monitor and like whenever i try to pick the option for 240 hz it goes straight back to 144 hz any reason why

[rain quiver]

I wish it looked as nice as the 4080 super

But i bought it

The cables are so ugly this one is 600w but didn’t work idk why

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I have a regular straight 12vhpwr cable from Corsair that they sent me and then I have my custom angled one

[reef patrol]

Does your monitor support 240hz on the connection you're using?

HDMI or DP?

[rain quiver]

Whats a good one to buy that supports the 4090

[glass falcon]

dp

[gentle osprey]

I'm always right, jk

[glass falcon]

i have the ben q zowie xl2540k also

[analog sinew]

custom, like cablemod?

[gentle osprey]

That's odd, that actually looks like that cable should work

[rain quiver]

I think its cuz it only has 2 ends

And each psu port supports less than 300 watts ? Idk

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I ended up getting it for free in a sense cause of their initial adapter issues with 12vhpwr and they just sent me full refunds in store credit and I ended up using that to get a fully custom cable kit

Even tho I had no issues

[placid token]

Shouldnt you get one automaticlly when you buy the wooting 80he module?

[fair gull]

really hope nvidia AIB partners also can pull a 3 slot cooler

would be so dope

[gentle osprey]

They can

but

have you seen the ASUS ROG Astral yet?

3.8 slots lol

[rain quiver]

Its this

Doesnt work on 4090

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I have one of those, should've worked

Odd

[rain quiver]

Weird

[fair gull]

i heard but its why im partially confused. nvidia showed you can engineer a good solution

[reef patrol]

It's in the case - That you should have bought together with your Module.

[gentle osprey]

Ya know I'm actually trying to figure that out myself currently, unless there's some crazy overclocking headroom that we don't know about, I don't see why AIBs are still using these over-engineered cooler designs

[analog sinew]

yeah thats strange

its huuge

[placid token]

Alright thanks, will buy one 🙂

[fair gull]

more like underengineered, they just throw mass and fans at it

[gentle osprey]

lmao true

[rain quiver]

Is it my psu? Maybe my ports dont do enough power

[fair gull]

didnt msi do some 5 fan design

like why

[gentle osprey]

It's the RM850x from 2021?

Shouldn't be an issue

I have the same one but 1000W

[gentle osprey]

I haven't looked yet, that's crazy if so lol

[fair gull]

there it is

[gentle osprey]

Also makes me wonder how much more they'll charge for these designs vs opting for the smaller cooler design like the FE

Guess we ran out of ideas

just add more fans

[fair gull]

im fully aware its expensive to design a cooler like the FE one for the 5090 due to the high amount of custom fin shapes.... but damn

[gentle osprey]

I will admit I like the ROG Astral design tho

[fair gull]

at some point EATX needs ot be a standard just to fit those GPUs anywhere

[rain quiver]

No x, its a white corsair rm850 2021

[gentle osprey]

Yeah the FE has those curved fins

[gentle osprey]

Weird, looking it up says it should work with that corsair cable

[fair gull]

if only the FE has a 3 slot design for the 5090 ill have to go FE

i was barely able to fit the 3.2slot cooler my 4090 has

[gentle osprey]

Says that cable works with Type 4 and type 3 older PSUs and yours is a type 4

[rain quiver]

I think my psu ports cant 300 watts each

[fair gull]

non x

[rain quiver]

Maybe thats why?

[gentle osprey]

oh wait

I think it is cause of non-X

[rain quiver]

Whats the difference

what cable would i need to make it work

[gentle osprey]

Well no, hmm

says yours still have type 4 connectors

even non X

[nimble arch]

I have the RM1000e but did buy Corsair's own braided cable for the 12+4 pin, it wass slightly easy to get the curve right with that.

[rain quiver]

Weird

Idk then

[nimble arch]

Actually huge that NVIDIA put the connector at a 45 degree angle on the 50-series though

[rain quiver]

So even a new cable wont fix it

[gentle osprey]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/s/psu-cable-compatibility

[fair gull]

on their design at least

AIB partners still have it point striaght out from what i saw

[rain quiver]

Ugly mess

[gentle osprey]

Yeah Corsair PSU Cable Compat shows it should work so idk what up with your PSU

weird

[nimble arch]

I can't see myself getting AIB cards again in the future if they keep making great FE cards.

Especially as they're great at keeping them stocked in the UK

[rain quiver]

Its gotta be that the psu ports dont give enough power or something

So maybe i need a cable with 3 ends

[halcyon moss]

Just close it, you don't see it

[rain quiver]

I just gotta buy one that works

But the question is what will work

[lyric hatch]

[gentle osprey]

Damn

[lyric hatch]

they never are so no big suprise but still sad

[gentle osprey]

True

[reef patrol]

(Or anywhere)

[analog sinew]

hi sam

ok i ordered the last pc shit apart from gpu obv

[lyric hatch]

what'd you end up with

guess I'm just gonna have to put some thicc card in my SFF case

[nimble arch]

Oh lord she thicc

[analog sinew]

oh i just ordered the psu and a ssd, so nothing all that cool

[magic minnow]

What psu

[analog sinew]

vertex gx1000

seasonic that is

[magic minnow]

You didn’t get the ASUS Thor with all the RGB

[analog sinew]

so it would seem

[balmy vector]

Waiting eagerly for the next nvidia driver update

I want to make all my games have the updated dlss transformer

[cedar fog]

I wanna see how fast reflex 2 gets adopted

I have a feeling it's gonna be slow af

[gentle osprey]

I'm hoping fast

cause if it does what it says it does then that's gonna be really nice for latency

I'd assume Esports titles will adopt it first, may take some time for single player games to get it though

[rain quiver]

Ok turns out my psu isnt pcie 5 thats why its not working, 2 connectors cant give out 600 watts

So i need a custom cable with 3 or 4 ends instead of just 2, anyone got high quality suggestions? Cant risk it melting

What brands are good? Corsair doesn’t have anything that would work

[gentle osprey]

It's not the PSU, it's the cable

that message is from a Corsair Rep.

[rain quiver]

I looked at the reviews people were using it with a 4090, only pcie 5 psu connectors can supply 300 watts each

Looks like mine only does 150 or 190 watt per connector thats why

And the cable only has 2 connectors

[gentle osprey]

Isn't the cable you were trying to use a PCIE 5.0 cable?

[rain quiver]

So i need a cable with 3 or 4 connectors but i cant find ang

[rain quiver]

Yes but not the psu

[gentle osprey]

Right

but that's what I"m saying

[rain quiver]

My psu connectors cant do 300 watt per connector

[gentle osprey]

The PSU is fine, just need a different cable

[magic minnow]

So a type 4?

[rain quiver]

Because its not pcie 5

[magic minnow]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cp-8920347/corsair-type-4-psu-90-12v-2x6-style-a-cable-cp-8920347

This?

[rain quiver]

No this wouldn’t work

[magic minnow]

;-;

[rain quiver]

It needs 3 or 4 connectors

[magic minnow]

Ooooh

[rain quiver]

But i cant find any good ones i need a good brand

[unkempt lake]

I have an HX1500I and it's technically not ATX 3.0 certified because I have the 2022 model instead of the 2023 model. It met the certification on everything except well the cable not being included

ATX3.0/PCIE5 certification is odd

[rain quiver]

So if i want this cable to work then i need a pcie 5 psu, but im not buying a new psu so i need a 12vhpwr cable with 3 or 4 ends

So if anyone knows a good one please let me know thanks

Like these

But idk if theyre good brands

[gentle osprey]

Yes this would work, it's not the connectors that matter, it's the type of cable

as the Corsair Rep said

You need type 4

[rain quiver]

The corsair rep is trippin

How come it worked with my 4080 super?

Its the fact that my psu connectors cant give enough wattage, cuz its not a pcie 5.0

[ashen spindle]

what, the spec doesnt change how much power can be pushed through an 8 pin

[rain quiver]

“You're using an rm850 with a 12vhwpr 600w adapter.
It does supply 600w, only if your psu supplies 300w per pcie connection. It needs to be a pcie 5.0 psu for that. Your psu can't do that.
So your psu doesn't supply enough power for that, so you either need a psu that does or an adapter than takes more cables”

This is what someone told me

And it adds up because it worked with my 4080 super but not 4090

But i just need to find a good brand

[gentle osprey]

You're saying this same cable here worked on your 4080?

[sharp badger]

The power table of that PSU

[rain quiver]

Yes been using it for a year

150 watt max output see

Thats why, 4080 super can run on that but not 4090

Thats why i need a cable with 3 or 4 ends so i can get 450 watts or 600

[gentle osprey]

Somethings not adding up here

[rain quiver]

What is it

150 watt max output per, so 300 is what i was getting instead of 600

[gentle osprey]

I literally use a RM1000x (2021) with a 4090 and that same Corsair Cable but black and it works fine

same 150w output

[rain quiver]

Is your 4090 undervolted

[gentle osprey]

Nope

Overclocked actually

to 600

[rain quiver]

I dont know then but it makes no sense because how would your 4090 run on 300 watts

[gentle osprey]

Exactly

[rain quiver]

I dont know

But i know i need a new cable

So can someone please recommend me one

[gentle osprey]

Yeah basically

The one you showed should be fine

I use cablemod tho

[rain quiver]

But its not fine

[gentle osprey]

the new ones you showed

[rain quiver]

So youre not using the same cable

[gentle osprey]

not the old one

[rain quiver]

Oh these?

[gentle osprey]

these

yeah

[rain quiver]

Are they really the best i could buy? I dont wanna risk it

And theyre not even 90 degree angles

[gentle osprey]

Do you want 90?

[rain quiver]

Is it better/safer?

I want the best

[gentle osprey]

Doesn't make a difference really, just changes the angle

[rain quiver]

Hm i thought they were less prone to melting

I guess not, well then can you please link me the best one i can buy

Cuz i really dont wanna lose this gpu

Also you think i should get one with 3 ends or 4? Since 3 is 450 watts and 4 is 600 watts

Wanna play it safe

[gentle osprey]

Does your PSU have a yellow or black label?

[analog sinew]

isnt 8 pin pcie rated to line 225 watts

[gentle osprey]

150W

[analog sinew]

ouch

[gentle osprey]

https://imgur.com/gallery/corsair-yellow-label-vs-black-label-Q9KbJkN

Yellow Label is older aka Type 3

[rain quiver]

Mine is type 4

[gentle osprey]

kk

just wanted to make sure

[rain quiver]

I defo appreciate that

Because i barely know anything about this stuff

[gentle osprey]

https://store.cablemod.com/product/cablemod-c-series-pro-modmesh-sleeved-12vhpwr-90-degree-stealthsense-pci-e-cable-for-corsair/

I already choose the correct PSU for you so these should be compatible

[rain quiver]

You think this the best money can buy? In terms of quality and safety

[rain quiver]

Thank you i will check it out

[gentle osprey]

Yes, CableMod has great customer service imo if anything goes wrong

[rain quiver]

I cant see how many ends this cable has

[gentle osprey]

You choose yourself

2x8 or 3x8 or 4x8

[rain quiver]

Oh i can pick sickk

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

[rain quiver]

Ill do 4 just to be safe

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I would

Just make sure your PSU can fit that many

some don't have that many slots

[rain quiver]

Whats the difference between variant A and B?

[gentle osprey]

the direction of the angle

so if you want the cable to go under your GPU or over the top

[rain quiver]

Okay will do

Defo under

So variant A?

Nvm it says everything at the bottom, thanks again for the help

[gentle osprey]

Yeah it should show examples at the bottom

and your PSU by the looks of it can only support 3x8 pins

[rain quiver]

You sure?

That sucks but oh well

[marble tartan]

what sort of switches can you use for the wooting?

[rain quiver]

Can i not plug em into sata

[unkempt lake]

You bought a 4090 tho, melting is a feature not a bug

[rain quiver]

Dont scare me like that

[unkempt lake]

:P

[rain quiver]

The chances are low right

[unkempt lake]

perhaps

Make sure your stuff's plugged in properly and cross your fingers

[rain quiver]

I got the warranty anyway

[fair gull]

how are you gonna plug an 8pin into a 6pin slot

[gentle osprey]

yeah so these are what you have available, you'd be using 2 of them for your mothboard/cpu and the rest for GPU

and no they can't go into SATA lol

[rain quiver]

The ones to the right

[fair gull]

they are pcie

[rain quiver]

Shit so i can only do 3

[fair gull]

the sata/pata are 6pins

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

[rain quiver]

Damn

[gentle osprey]

thats what I was tryna point out

so don't get the 4x8 pin cable

get the 3x8

[fair gull]

wait why only 3

you have 5 ports

4 for gpu and 1 for the 4+4cpu

[gentle osprey]

He is using two of those for the motherboard

[fair gull]

or do you need more than 4+4

[gentle osprey]

You don't need more than 4x4 for motherboard unless you're overclocking tbh

you can use one

[rain quiver]

Can i get it and leave one unplugged for the future incase i upgrade my psu

[fair gull]

no

[gentle osprey]

Yes

Why no lol

[fair gull]

arent they wired separate

[sharp badger]

Isn't it PSU specific?

[fair gull]

pretty sure if you get a 4xpcie to 12vhpwr you need to give it 4

not 3

[gentle osprey]

Shouldn't be, each cable just allows more draw power, so 3x8 would be 450w and 4x8 would be 600w

[rain quiver]

Tbh idk all i know is that i need 4x8 but i can only use 3 of my slots apparently

[rain quiver]

Alright if thats the case ill get 4x8 and leave one unplugged incase i upgrade

[fair gull]

NOTE: This cable requires four unoccupied 8-pin PCI-e ports on your power supply to properly function. Connecting fewer than four connectors to your power supply may cause system damage.

literally in bright red on the page

[rain quiver]

Nevermind then ill get 3x8

Thank you for all the help i defo woulda made mistakes if not for yall

[rain quiver]

The cables will provide 600 but we already established that my psu can only do 150 per connector right??

Or is that not the case

[fair gull]

see

[rain quiver]

Yeah i see, thank you

[fair gull]

was more for cals to the why no

[gentle osprey]

Yeah for some reason I thought you could just leave one hanging since it's just for redundancy but hey

[proven turret]

any advice on where to go for a 300 hz + monitor?

[astral haven]

Bestbuy or newegg

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/Y36LMS5y34A?si=XPUkZcGaLxqQBKG8

I wish we never went to this cable spec

[rain quiver]

Bruh their variant A and B descriptions are so confusing lmao

[gentle osprey]

btw I should've mentioned it is 225w but 75w from the motherboard 150w for the connector

[fair gull]

they have images

[rain quiver]

I just ordered variant B, $30 cable and $30 shipping

[trim crane]

B looks like a pain to remove :(

[fair gull]

yeah well some people like esthetics more than non broken fingers/gpus/cables

[trim crane]

btw does anyone know aboht the Loki 1200W Titanium

because it only seems like a few people have ever used it

[gentle osprey]

It is, I used to have one

Cause yanno for some reason Gigabytes connector is flipped comapared to ASUS

[magic minnow]

I use A

[rain quiver]

Wdym theyre both just as easy to remove

I dont want the cable to be going over the gpu thats why

[balmy vector]

Beeg gpu

[rain quiver]

Im confused so A doesnt go over the gpu

[gentle osprey]

It depends on your GPU connector

Some are flipped

[rain quiver]

Ok maybe i should cancel my order, their website is confusing i thought variant B would have the cable going down to my psu

[gentle osprey]

Just look at where your cable clips into the GPU, is the clip on the top or bottom of the connector, then just match that with the one you want to buy

if you want the cable to go underneath your GPU that is

[rain quiver]

Aight i got the correct one then

[gentle osprey]

Yeah, if you wanted the cable to go over the top of the GPU aka the backplate, then you'd get the flipped version

[rain quiver]

Thanks

[gentle osprey]

No problem

[magic minnow]

;3; if I don’t get the 5090 I’ll explode

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[gentle osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-comaru-komaru-cat-komaru-cat-explosion-cat-explode-gif-1725161613750857467

[magic minnow]

[gentle osprey]

Yeah that thing is not a 4090 lol

Huge asterisk

[ashen spindle]

same shit as last time

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/same-old-shit-shawshank-redemption-morgan-freeman-gif-9157330

[rough osprey]

why did they list reflex 2

[gentle osprey]

Yeah exactly, only thing I don't agree with is people saying Nvidia is lying, I mean Jensen literally said it wouldn't be possible "without AI or GDDR7"

[gentle osprey]

and why did they list Ray Reconstruction

[rough osprey]

this meme weird

[gentle osprey]

I get it but yeah some flaws

[rough osprey]

the idea was good

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/ORXoOKND1Tk?si=fqTzqc57mfZjRKEM

I always love these lol

In the future games will be 1 static frame and your GPU will hallucinate the rest for you

On the other hand why do we care so much about real frames in a fake video game world? Just go outside and use your eyes for real frames , video games are fake anyway

[rough osprey]

😭

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/Qv9SLtojkTU?si=8w32YRQuNtZpec25 old but good video

kinda TLDW

[rain quiver]

I was so excited for the 5090 smh

[unkempt lake]

well you have a 4090 now

so stop looking at 50 series

[rain quiver]

True and im happy with it tbh

[unkempt lake]

exactly

that's what you should do

play some games and have fun

[rain quiver]

[unkempt lake]

and turn your brain off from the 50 series stuff

[rain quiver]

I will

[unkempt lake]

if you do that you'll enjoy it a lot more :P

[rain quiver]

Im just hella disappointed

[unkempt lake]

what game are you hyped to play

on your new card

[rain quiver]

Witcher 3 without having to use fg/dlss 💀

And minecraft at more than 60 fps

[unkempt lake]

That's... an odd one

[rain quiver]

Also i held off from buying wukong cuz of how demanding it is so now i can play it

And final fantasy xvi without fg/dlss

[unkempt lake]

Last time I played witcher 3 was on my 980 when blood wine dlc released

lol

[rain quiver]

My 4080super couldnt handle it without both dlss and fg its insane

[unkempt lake]

what

[rain quiver]

4k max settings tho

[unkempt lake]

i was maxing this out at 1080p on a 980 back in the day

[rain quiver]

Yeah i was getting like 30 fps

[rain quiver]

They released a big update later on

[unkempt lake]

oh

like a graphical update?

i mean i guess if they added DLSS/FG they did lol

[rain quiver]

Yeah a dx11 update

Or was it dx12 idk

But thats when it became demanding as hell i think

[rain quiver]

I play with max rt settings too

[wide sun]

Fake frames >

[rain quiver]

I hate being forced to use fake frames so much

I'd understand if i was on a budget tier card

[unkempt lake]

You could probably have those on medium and have it still look pretty

[rain quiver]

Well with this gpu i can play at whatever settings i want

Also ghost of tsushima wihout fg

[unkempt lake]

I run a 7900xtx and I play rt games but i generally just turn on global illumination and reflections on like medium

and leave rt shadows off

rt shadows are just whatever

[rain quiver]

Oh also skyrim nolvus v6 which is 2000 mods

That one needs 24gb vram at 4k so i couldnt play it before

[unkempt lake]

what about your system ram lol

with that many mods

[rain quiver]

I got 32 of ddr5 i should be good

The requirements say im good

Oh yeah i can do fortnite without dlss now too

Cool

[rain quiver]

Tbh im just a weirdo that refuses to play anything if not at max or damn near max settings

Oh yeah rdr2 too

So many games i can play properly now

[unkempt lake]

RT shadows i just... literally can't tell

RT reflexions i can tell

RT gi i can tell

but shadows? they look the damn same xD

[rain quiver]

Yeah you're probably right

If it starts struggling ill turn some settings down

[unkempt lake]

start with RT shadows

[rain quiver]

But i dont see it struggling on any game except wukong and cyberpunk

[unkempt lake]

:P

[rain quiver]

At least out the games i play

[unkempt lake]

well cyberpunk is actually one of those games

I'll have reflexions on but not shadows

[rain quiver]

Yeah my game looked horrible on the 4080super cuz i had to use both dlss and fg with RT and they make RT look horrible

[unkempt lake]

if you had lowered the rt effects a little or picked and choose the ones you notice the most

woulda ran well

and looked better

[rain quiver]

Maybe i should have but instead i told myself ill wait until i get a better gpu

I did that with a few games

Cyberpunk is overrated anyway i have like 20 games in mind that i need to play before it

[unkempt lake]

one game i max out RT in

Forza motorsport

because uh game caps at 60fps online

so like... why wouldn't i make my game look better

[rain quiver]

Oh yeah honestly forza is either just not demanding or its optimized well

Cause i ran it really well without fake frames

[unkempt lake]

I'm talking about motorsport

not horizon

[rain quiver]

Oh okay

Never played it

[unkempt lake]

motorsport is more demanding

new engine

[rain quiver]

Did that come out after 5?

[unkempt lake]

yes

it's basically just track racing

instead of horizon which has arcadey physics

[rain quiver]

Damn its not open world yet its more demanding?

[unkempt lake]

and well isnt on a track

[rain quiver]

Ig the open world has always been kinda empty

[rain quiver]

So closer to like beamng or wtv its called

[unkempt lake]

gran turismo

asseto corsa

those kinds of games

[rain quiver]

Oh i think i have that game

I refunded it

Idk why it has so many reviews

There is nothing to do in the game and they only have like 18 cars

[unkempt lake]

simulate car crashes

[rain quiver]

Ig im just not the target audience

[unkempt lake]

and mods

[rain quiver]

And i found out the hard way that asseto corsa is basically unplayable without a wheel

Thats when i was like damn i shoulda stuck to forza

[gentle osprey]

lmao

NikTek memes be pretty good

[vagrant pagoda]

Man that sucks Bitwit lost his house.

https://youtu.be/U22zM_tr-CU

[lyric hatch]

Damn that sucks, glad he managed to get his cats out though

[vagrant pagoda]

Yep that had to really suck to be in Vegas and trying to get someone to save your pets.

[lofty pivot]

that's rough. Seems colin and samir also lost their homes. Might be more creators coming out about it over the week as a lot of them live in california

[digital cliff]

you know what's rough? not creators losing their houses, but anyone losing their houses

[lofty pivot]

yeah bitwit points that out in his video. I think it's just interesting because there'll be way more videos on this just due to the nature of the fire happening where large amounts of creators live

[upper imp]

8K / 4K polling > 1k polling in almost every scenario as long as the CPU / game doesn't have issues with it!

[umbral heron]

2k is enough
There's a slight difference when mice polling is bigger than 1k and on high refresh rates
But changing to anything more than 2k is not noticeable
For keyboards I don't really think anyone could even perceive a difference in 1k vs 250Hz polling

[upper imp]

It is like asking if you can notice a 0.875 ms difference I think... And that only applies if the mouse is moved very fast as well... I see what you mean but it is a difference that might not be noticeable but then again it is there and in a perfect world could make a difference? Maybe like that?

[marsh glade]

Top tier players of rhythm games and precision games will be able to tell

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-here-we-go-again-shut-up-oh-damn-omg-gif-15678990

Maybe up to 1k, not more

[upper imp]

A study of U.S. Navy fighter pilots found that their simple visual reaction times ranged from 143 to 461 milliseconds, with a mean of 223 milliseconds. This represents the minimum time required to detect a visual stimulus and initiate a motor response.

I knew they did that somewhere...

Just had to find it.

[marsh glade]

Reaction time and being able to feel a difference are very, very different things.

[umbral heron]

Well, there's also a difference in discrete and continuous stimuli
That's why even if we don't exactly see it, we can "feel" difference in mice polling on high refresh rate monitors

[upper imp]

Do they not correlate... If I can feel something visually and then react to it, it will mean I already did an input...

[umbral heron]

Yeah, but in, for example, rhythm games, you're expecting that you'll have to do an input beforehand, thus lower reaction time

[upper imp]

I am thinking pro scene CS. They do not always know where someone is lurking and have to react to the situation...

Rythm games do not really have that issue yes. You learn a track by heart if necessary...

[umbral heron]

Maybe Still, the game is very... methodical? Most of pro players know where to expect an enemy
If somebody goes out of their way to do something unusual, pro players usually get surprised just as other players would, and we get clip on YT from that

[astral haven]

The actual difference is more from the cursor being painted to the screen at every location the mouse reports within a frame
The more reports the better you can see how your corrections are doing, and the less distance between cursors

[upper imp]

I get where you are coming from. But I see it simple. If you can react faster and reduce input delay why not do it. It minimizes the time to flick on a lurking enemy and adjust to the next...

[umbral heron]

But of course - still to an extent, after all we are not machines, just sacks of meat
And at some point the difference between lower and higher polling... just won't be there

[astral haven]

https://blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/project480-mousearrow-690x518.jpg.webp

[upper imp]

That is hz refresh rate of monitors we are talking about mouse and keyboard polling atm. But then again that also a thing. 8k hz polling are not always even displayed because the mouse doesn't always update at 8k only at like high DPI and loads of movement...

[astral haven]

Perhaps
But when you are using the mouse at sufficient dpi to activate the 8khz you still see it
https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3472749.3474783

[upper imp]

By the time 16k polling will be not too taxing on CPUs we would need to be cyborgs or somehow augmented to notice the difference between a display at 1200 hz and 850 hz LUL

[astral haven]

50% of people will be able to tell the difference between 8k and 16k on a 10khz+ display

Now will we get a 10khz+ display? Maybe not

Also 8khz is 1 IPS at 8000 DPI
That's really slow...

[upper imp]

Who runs 8000 DPI though?

[astral haven]

Anyone who understands that you can turn down sense in game and windows to make your mouse movements more precise

[whole axle]

So I’ve been held back not using 16000 dpi

[analog sinew]

the snail has acquired more cpu power. @jovial ivy @latent mural

[latent mural]

7800x3d?

no ij see 9

but its so unintelligble for me

[analog sinew]

yeah its 9800x3d

[latent mural]

NICEEEE

but the snail is more cuter

[analog sinew]

there is condensation on the plastic yea

[latent mural]

❤️

[marsh glade]

You can learn the track by heart, but if your inputs are randomly plus or minus half a millisecond, you're going to notice

[umbral heron]

Not really?
Even on highest diff in osu you have like ±13ms, in DJMax it's ±15ms, in beatmania ±16ms...

[digital cliff]

it's difficult to say for sure because humans can generally adapt to a reasonable (I'm just guessing but probably on the order of 25-50ms) latency very easily as long as it's consistent

so a 25ms consistent latency wouldn't be the worst thing in the world in rhythm games up to a certain point because your brain is plastic and can just learn to compensate/offset without you really consciously thinking about it

[analog sinew]

my brain is organic but it does contain microplastic

[digital cliff]

when it comes to reading very fast charts you're obviously taking away 25 milliseconds of time for your brain to process it however, so at a very high level it is a huge downside for sure

but in general I'd say consistency beats strict latency improvements, like cals pointed out rhythm games tend to have judgment windows of around +-15ms for a perfect hit at the top-level, if your input device has spikes of 3, 4, 5ms when it's normally a consistent 1ms, it's going to result in a noticeable increase in less-than-desireable judgments at the end of the day

[latent mural]

i am microplastic but i contain organic

[digital cliff]

but I agree that in shooters and stuff, the faster you can react to a thing the better. then again the hooman reaction time is like 200ms or whatever so does a 1ms difference for a faster keyboard really make or break a firefight? probably not. given enough rolls yeah you might win one fight out of a 1000 perhaps

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-viralhog-lick-biting-plastic-chewing-bag-gif-18493092

[tiny oyster]

Tbf, even if it's largely placebo, it just feels nicer playing on something high end and gives that extra boost of confidence

[lofty pivot]

For shooters you definitely notice even when your reactions can’t necessarily take advantage of it for all situations

like the slight delay before someone dies when you hs them with 50ms vs 5ms is noticable for sure

[fickle ore]

That should illustrate how much it helps

[whole axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NRxNpK

would yall change anything?

[ashen spindle]

Why such an expensive board

[whole axle]

239?

[ashen spindle]

Can get some b650 for like half price

[whole axle]

doesnt x870 have a better power stage for the new cpus?

[ashen spindle]

No

Well yes but in the sense of they produce maybe a watt less heat, which doesn’t matter

[nimble arch]

You'll get integrated WiFi 7 on the newer boards though

If you ever need to use WiFi

[whole axle]

im on ethernet

[ashen spindle]

You can get a cheaper WiFi card if it’s need that or just wifi6 integrated anyway and still save half price

[whole axle]

which b650 then?

specific brand thats better

[ashen spindle]

Doesn’t really matter

Asrock b650 HDV is a cheap one usually, if that misses anything you can look for more but if you don’t need more why spend more

[whole axle]

i just dont want to leave performance on the table

[ashen spindle]

It doesn’t change performance even one bit

[whole axle]

razer v3 pro, wooting 60he, oled 480 hz (soon)

ok cool

[ashen spindle]

It’s just a plane to deliver power and connect parts

[whole axle]

so everything will be fine

on the 600 motherboards

[ashen spindle]

Yes

[whole axle]

is there a board considered the best or nah

[digital cliff]

no because it's literally just about what features you need

it doesn't affect performance one bit

I mean technically the best board is the most expensive one so go ham if you want to

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/zotacs-safety-light-feature-averts-16-pin-power-connector-meltdowns-on-rtx-50-gpus-the-mechanism-prevents-gpu-power-on-until-the-cable-is-fully-inserted

This needs testing

[ashen spindle]

Best boards are only a thing if you do stuff like extreme memory overcloking

[reef patrol]

safety light

I feel so safe now.

[tiny oyster]

pretty sure mine was just like MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi and it's served me perfectly well since I bought it (like two years ago now, judging by the 4070 release date)

I bought most of my parts before the 4070 released. Played on integrated graphics while waiting for it

[tiny oyster]

prices are from two years back, you can get so many of those parts for nearly half the cost now

[whole axle]

No gen 5 tho which I’m assuming I should have for the 50 series cards

[tiny oyster]

I can't imagine it making any noticeable difference

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/retailer-in-philippines-lists-radeon-rx-9070-xt-with-4096-cores-2-97-ghz-boost-at-600

[magic minnow]

Sucks that I just bought a PSU as well should have gone for 1200 instead of 1000

[analog sinew]

why? shouldnt 1000W suffice

[reef patrol]

Go for a high quality one instead of more watts.

Good PSUs provide more than they claim, and can handle spikes better.

[umbral heron]

Maybe 14900k

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-fires-back-at-radeon-rx-9070-leaks-performance-will-be-better-than-reported

Better than 4080S?

[analog sinew]

👁️

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/powercolor-radeon-rx-9070-series-revealed-reaper-confirmed-as-dual-slot-design

Dual slot cards hell yeah

[vapid ruin]

4080S performance for <$700 would be insane

[cursive summit]

If it's not 480$ I ain't bothering

[magic minnow]

The minimum for the 5090 is 1000w

[ashen spindle]

No that’s what they recommend

You could easily make a pc that runs it just fine on 750 even

[lyric hatch]

Bastion of truth Frank Azor

[cursive summit]

Jebaited

[magic minnow]

Then I explode

[magic minnow]

I have this one

[analog sinew]

i wouldnt buy a new psu if i have a 1000W platinum

seems like a waste of money

[ashen spindle]

Yup

[cursive summit]

80+ Platinum 1000W? How much did you pay for this shit, 300$?

[hollow nebula]

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\kbdclass\Parameters - KeyboardDataQueueSize
Changing this below 100 gives any benefits on wooting keyboards?

[magic minnow]

180$ I think

It was on sale

[cursive summit]

That's not going to need an upgrade anytime soon

And a bloody steal at that price

[magic minnow]

200$

I lied

[ashen spindle]

No

[cursive summit]

Looks like a really good PSU at that

[digital cliff]

regedits

[crimson wigeon]

Nah man it'll boost your gameplay tenfold

[modern sky]

Going off just my knowledge with no testing, I assume this value references to the amount of data that Windows can que from your keyboard, setting the value to very low might lead to missed inputs and it could in theory change the delay but not significantly you are better off just enabling tychoon mode

[oblique solstice]

hey guys, i just got a new gpu but it came with nvidias official adapter, the adapter has 2 8 pin connectors but my psu only has 1 8 pin, do i need a new psu? its a 4070 ti super, my psu is 600w

[sharp badger]

On NVIDIAs page it's stated that 700W is ''needed''

[oblique solstice]

oh okay, and 2x8 pcie, which my psu doesnt have anyways lol, only 1x8pin xd

[fair gull]

the system power is somewhat of a psu recommendation

[soft sparrow]

anybody knows if it's possible to let some apps like spotify and discord to start on my second monitor, I'm lazy to keep moving them to my 2nd screen every boot 😭

[digital cliff]

that's how it supposed to work -- for windows to remember their position so you don't have to keep moving them over and over and over again... but because windows is such a great operating system, that hardly ever works

you may want to look into powertoys or whatever they are called, I seem to remember there being some for window management

[leaden kiln]

I think there's a config file in discords program folder where you can set the size and position of the window, spotify is also an electron app so maybe it would work the same for it

[celest needle]

will the sound stay then same of my wooting

[vagrant pagoda]

Display fusion= 10/10

[vagrant pagoda]

Why wouldn't they just shut off the GPU instead of a led you won't see

[reef patrol]

Attention - Your GPU is on fire

blink blink blink

[soft sparrow]

hm

[celest needle]

?

[vagrant pagoda]

Is that even English?

[soft sparrow]

interesting just need these both apps anyways

it's hella annoyin movin em back to place every single reboot.

[unkempt lake]

I got a better steal on a psu

Hx1500i for 250 canadian instead of 500 something

😎

All because it didn't have the 12vhwpr cable in the box

Because it was the 2022 version

So it came with 8pin cables instead

[fickle ore]

Any diamond efficiency tier PSU's yet?

[unkempt lake]

And the hx1500i was already atx3.0 compliant... it just technically wasn't because there was 8 pin cables in the box

[atomic nimbus]

Does wooting use installments?

[unkempt lake]

Uhhhh idk

But tbh... it's not like it matters

[umbral heron]

Nope
Afaik Shop Pay does have them, but not Wooting store

[atomic nimbus]

Thanks

[halcyon moss]

Don't buy a keyboard if you need to do it in installments 😮

[atomic nimbus]

I was just making sure, I can pay full price

[halcyon moss]

K

[charred pier]

hey, anyone knows what to do in this case ?