🔌│tech

[lyric heath]

thanks

[wide sun]

you can always just get an external numpad

[lyric heath]

[unkempt lake]

no I will be the first order

Fight me

[crisp granite]

no, you won't
and you know I win if we fight

I always win
I'm like Vietnam
undefeated

[magic minnow]

If I can’t get an FE edition I’m skipping it

[lyric heath]

now im not sure if im schizophrenic or the 80he is a bit smaller than other 80% keyboards

[unkempt lake]

I'll... uh... use the power of distraction

[crisp granite]

both

[rough osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKUSMqrbzQ xD

[wide sun]

yeah it has a row cut off

[lyric heath]

its missing 1 column no?

[wide sun]

yeah whatever it's called

[lyric heath]

wait

i might have mixed it up

i still dont know my rows and columns

[crisp granite]

you got it right the first time

wish my parents said that

[lyric heath]

ah

[wide sun]

and then it doesn't have the context menu key or whatever it is

[lyric heath]

its okay youre a cat-snake

i feel like the 80he has an awkward layout

why is it not just a normal 80% layout 💔

[wide sun]

It has to be special

[winter patrol]

only 2 decent mag tkls other than the 80he on the market, this and the morkblade tkl

[hasty thunder]

i can't believe what i saw

1k for the 5080, my prayers have been listened to

[unkempt lake]

won't matter when it will be unobtainium

and scalped to hell

[hasty thunder]

well, true... it will be scalped to hell and back

[unkempt lake]

all my hobbies are being ruined by scalpers anyways

fun stuff

[astral haven]

Well the options are scalpers or more expensive msrp

I'll take scalpers tbh

[unkempt lake]

at least they dont scalp plushies

then again the stuffing would just all get out

wouldn't really work

pinnacle of comedy right here

[astral haven]

-_-

[unkempt lake]

Just received this cute little boi after it got lost for 2.5 months in the canada post strike

@astral haven look at him

its important

[astral haven]

Neat

I'm at the brightest manmade light in the world

[quaint dew]

well sikakeyb has hemu which has bad fw issues so thats out

why not a venom?

[unkempt lake]

fancy

[analog sinew]

yoo

i needit

[broken moat]

Biggest crime is 16 Gb vram

[digital cliff]

rip resale value of all cards from the past years

looking forward to nabbing a lower-class card secondhand for 300 lmao

[analog sinew]

nodders

i'm tempted to look for used 4090

[clever oar]

Does anyone know what the size for the spacebar is for the 60HE+? Is it 6u or 6.25u?

[halcyon moss]

This is the way

[lyric hatch]

6.25u

[clever oar]

You the GOAT! Ty

[cedar fog]

these 50 series prices aren't as bad as i thought they'd be

[halcyon moss]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0Rt8pnYGFms?si=LqXUTbOjA_s0wzKF

wraaaa (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[bold coyote]

[hasty thunder]

why are 16 GB a crime?

i've never actually achieved more than 13 GB in use

[reef patrol]

It's just a plateau of VRAM, in an era where more is needed.

My 3080 has 10GB. Two generations later and we're still only getting a meagre 6GB on top?

[cursive summit]

Haha, woke up, and first thing I figure out is that Nvidia watched a couple of videos of people combining AFMF2 with FSR3 for quadruple frames, were like "we want to do that" and created an FG mode for up to 8x FG

Did Nvidia not watch the part of the video where the actual experience was horrendous?

Also, faking benchmark numbers apparently, the graphs were fucked, 40 series cards used DLSS3 while 50 cards DLSS4 4X mode, while as far as I understand RTX 4000 cards will also get DLSS4

So that's fucked

[distant tapir]

Soon ™️

[cursive summit]

Nvidia has become a fan company it feels like

Those double slot coolers are kinda nuts, for a 575W card

Pricing is as fucked as always but not as bad as it could have been

[lyric hatch]

wish I could get those FE cards here

also only 50 series has the multi-frame stuff

[cursive summit]

Meh, we'll see how good this shit really is

[nimble arch]

Pretty happy that they're not locking the new models.

[cursive summit]

I like DLSS3, but more than 3x FG is kinda nuts

[nimble arch]

Reflex 2 is coming to all RTX GPUs also

[cursive summit]

(they are, DLSS4 only RTX 50)

[nimble arch]

Isn't DLSS4 just a combination of the enhanced models + multi-frame gen?

[lyric hatch]

and same for FSR4 is only on the new AMD cards

[cursive summit]

We don't actually know that

Q&A said they are looking into porting to RDNA3

So yes but no, we'll see by the time of launch

[lyric hatch]

I mean the slide says "developed for RDNA 4 and the unique compute aspects of the RDNA 4 AI accelerators"

sounds pretty exclusive to me

[latent mural]

Whats the diffrents beetween the v5 and v4 wootility

[reef patrol]

One is better.

[ivory kestrel]

I need help with my color profile, its not able to save on the website nor the app

It also wont apply to keyboard as well

[reef patrol]

Make a thread in #1019755933959733258 and share some screenshots of what's going on.

[steady sail]

Close signalRGB or any other rgb software

[latent mural]

?

[reef patrol]

You should use V5 in either case.

[digital cliff]

i mean just go take a look

[nimble arch]

Only $900 USD for Dell's 27" 4K OLED. That's a really good price, I was expecting over $1000 USD.

[tight dragon]

How much for shipping?

[nimble arch]

I don't know

[distant tapir]

It looks nice too

[nimble arch]

I'll have to wait until April for it to release in Europe anyway

[distant tapir]

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/6/24335564/alienware-27-inch-4k-240hz-oled-price-date

[winter patrol]

https://www.techpowerup.com/330460/asus-rog-announces-swift-oled-pg27ucdm-and-strix-oled-xg27aqdpg-gaming-monitors this as well

[distant tapir]

I hate how the Asus stand looks

[winter patrol]

peeps who get these usually have arms

[nimble arch]

ROG tax also

[slow trench]

Jan 30, RTX 5090 f5 spam begnings buy buy buy 🙂

[winter patrol]

pricing not out yet so we don't know

[nimble arch]

Sure but if last year's 32" OLEDs were anything to go by, the Alienware was £300 cheaper pretty much ever other 32" QD-OLED using the same panel.

[severe phoenix]

To be fair, that sldie is with DLSS Performance & Framegen x4 enabled lol

[ashen spindle]

Thank god I slept through this

The fact the main point aside from price was ai tops on the slide makes me want to vomit lmfao

[balmy vector]

But quin….. AI!!!!!

[ashen spindle]

Like no shit I can see that in Ai performance it will be a 4090 with the new changes lmfao

Not for gaming

[balmy vector]

AI MAKE THE WORLD GO ROUND PRAISE BE FOR THE FRAMES ON TOP OF FRAMES

[pale sigil]

I still wanna see none dlss benchies

Did they say the release date?

[lyric hatch]

gonna have to wait for independent benchmarks for those

[raw zephyr]

i wonder if nvidia is finally going to come out with driver based optical flow frame gen

wow that's a mouthful

[pale sigil]

5070ti is kinda desirable

[ashen spindle]

They don’t need to if they can just use the market position to put dlss into anything

No card is desirable yet because we don’t know performance

[pale sigil]

Is the 5080 also 16gb like shown in previous leaks?

[pale sigil]

Ok desirable is the wrong word

[lyric hatch]

yep

[pale sigil]

Interesting and I'm keeping my eye on

[pale sigil]

That's stupid

[pale sigil]

^

[balmy vector]

30th

[halcyon moss]

let see what the benches will say

curious as well as to what AMD will deliver

[pale sigil]

Same

[balmy vector]

Gonna be fun watching the benches since im just gonna keep my 4080

[halcyon moss]

does that even need an upgrade? O_O

[balmy vector]

No

[halcyon moss]

my 5700xt does most things still fine

[pale sigil]

My 3080 doesn't even really need an upgrade tbf

Barley use it

[lyric hatch]

30th for the 5090 and 5080

feb for 5070

[hasty thunder]

yeahhhhh... go fuck yourself, nVidia...

"1000 USD...." my ass

[analog sinew]

have you heard of tax

us price is without VAT

you cant trust the burgers nyumi

[balmy vector]

You can trust that they’re tasty though

[hasty thunder]

no shit Sherlock, but have you checked the currency exchange rate?

[vapid tree]

benchmarks done with MFG and they thought we wouldn't notice
Far cry 6 is non dlss but rt which is also not a like for like comparison since new gen RT cores but even then It looks to be about 20-25% at most
In raster It's prob less

[modern sphinx]

just sell one of your many keyboards

[ashen spindle]

That is the correct price more or less though after exchange and taxes?

[old marlin]

do you really care about 30€ that much at the end?

the card is already overpriced anyways

[hasty thunder]

Gonna wait for the benchmarks anyway

[old marlin]

like you should

[hasty thunder]

and as Dashi already said, the GPUs will be scalped for at least half a year

[lyric hatch]

it's alright US will play catch up soon with the tariff coming

[old marlin]

💀

man that hl2 RTX on/off thing is just such a lie

[hasty thunder]

[balmy vector]

Very real, just add RT to generate plants

[distant tapir]

5090 is $2557 for me

[old marlin]

what dollars

[alpine patio]

import tax?

[distant tapir]

US

[lyric hatch]

RTX so good it remade all the textures and added bump-mapping

[balmy vector]

Very efficient

[fair gull]

except you wont get any of the vram and less bandwidth apparently

[balmy vector]

But, the multi frames!

[bronze vessel]

AMD already shared something. But in general it means they don't really compete with the NV 5000 series only with the 4000 series. https://www.techpowerup.com/330549/amd-debuts-radeon-rx-9070-xt-and-rx-9070-powered-by-rdna-4-and-fsr-4

AMD appears to suggest the 9070 series will offer similar performance to the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4070 Super.

[halcyon moss]

beeenchmarks is what counts :p

[fair gull]

ye in general the pricing and on paper specs are nice to know but benchmarks will put it all into perspective

[old marlin]

no

they just did not want to share pricing before nvidia

[fair gull]

lots of display port 2.1 is what i like to see

[lyric hatch]

https://vesa.org/press/vesa-to-update-displayport-2-1-with-new-active-cable-specification-for-up-to-3x-longer-dp80-cables/

hey we get proper cables too

[fair gull]

yeah thats the spec the 50series supports

(unsuprisingly as the a and b specs often are just cable stuff)

[whole axle]

Best 50 series card?

What’s it looking like

[fair gull]

prob the 70 or 80

depends on if the price is a factor tbh

[whole axle]

Price to performance ( rn doesn’t matter I’m assuming since we have no real numbers lmao)

[hasty thunder]

looking at the price of 550 for the 70 the winner is already obvious

[fair gull]

depends on performance

for me relative to the 4090 (i got a feeling the 5090 is the only real option)

and then its only the new amd cpus that need to battle it out

[hasty thunder]

for 2.4k

[fair gull]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[analog sinew]

idk xD

[fair gull]

also where is the 2.4k coming from

its like 2k

[halcyon moss]

nvidia is likely more power efficient..

[alpine patio]

[fair gull]

ah 2.3k eur

well still ok if the performance pulls through

[cursive summit]

Considering they are obfuscating the real raster performance with their multi-level frame generator, I don't think they are confident

There's no need for 4090 owners to buy a 5090

[fair gull]

thats why the benches next month are the interesting part now

[hasty thunder]

say again?
https://www.nvidia.com/de-de/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/rtx-5090/

[fair gull]

thats 2.3k

last i checked 2 isnt rounding up

[cursive summit]

2.3k is such an insane price for a GPU

And they are selling them to you without even demonstrating what DLSS4 does?

Oh this just.. gives you 8x more frames!

We all know that 2x frames comes with a price, how tf does 8x look like

[fair gull]

its funny that basically the same kinda stuff was said for the 4090 and yet people bought it

including me. and i dont regret it at all

[cursive summit]

Nvidia is a fan design company for me at this point, that 2-slot cooler cooling a 575W beast is quite nuts

Reflex 2 is also cool

[reef patrol]

Thankfully reviewers will do proper raster tests.

No way anyone should buy hardware sight unseen.

[fair gull]

oh people will to try and scalp

[cursive summit]

I'll take Nvidia as the Apple of our day until someone like AMD or Lossless Scaling just copy their features in an affordable product

RTX 5070 is 4090!!!*

• requires 4X frame generator and DLSS2 to achieve

Just trust us bro, 4090 performance

Kind of insane the feeling of game rendering is not quantifiable as performance

Nvidia really is marketing 50 FPS triple multiplied and upscaled as the same thing as native 150FPS

[lyric hatch]

to the shock of everyone tech company stretched the truth during presentation slideshow at tech event

[sturdy raven]

The problem is they seriously devalued the 4090 with that statement

[crimson wigeon]

Oh no!

[lyric hatch]

I'm sure they care a lot about the value of the 4090 they stopped making and was in short supply back in september https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2024/09/21/buy-an-nvidia-rtx-4090-before-its-too-late-shortages-predicted/

[fair gull]

so like every card before

[old marlin]

the 2080 wishes it could have done that

[halcyon moss]

unless you make money with it, a gpu is never an investment

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[sturdy raven]

I don’t remember any other time nvidia was saying new generation x70 card are comparable to the previous x90 card

[lyric hatch]

I can the 3070 was compared to the 2080 ti

[sturdy raven]

Did the benchmarks prove it or was it bs?

[lyric hatch]

1% faster according to techpowerup @ 1440p

[crimson wigeon]

Wonder how it is now with games using so much VRAM

[lyric hatch]

still looks about the same from what I can see

in a more recent benchmark at 4k

[reef patrol]

The floating head has spoken.

[whole axle]

So technically the 5070 could be faster than the 4090

Nvm

[fair gull]

their marketing tried to

[steady sail]

Did any if the 4070 cards beat the 3090 ?

[ashen spindle]

Yes

In ai performance

[frozen ingot]

welp the printer has at long last joined the ranks of its fellow printerkind in promptly refusing to work and complaining over the wrong symptoms

did take it some 8 years to break down so that's at least 7 years over most printers out there, gj xerox I suppose

[pale sigil]

https://youtu.be/Far7GJch2KA

People seriously need to stop taking the claims seriously

[steady sail]

Every 2 year nvidia do this

[pale sigil]

Ye

[balmy vector]

Its how you build unnecessary wallet tremblings to those who can’t help themselves

[steady sail]

I wanna see that in real time without dlss and any ai stuff

Most ppl would love to buy a new GPU or something new on a reasonable price

[oblique solstice]

guys, is it smart to buy a 4070 ti super now or wait for 5070 ti?

what would u reckon

[wispy delta]

[gusty nexus]

Wait for the launch of the 5070ti to buy a 4070ti much cheaper

[oblique solstice]

wait actually 200iq

[ashen spindle]

Never happens like that

[oblique solstice]

i didnt even think about that wtf

[ashen spindle]

New ones will sell out and old ones keep prices

[oblique solstice]

i mean i doubt it will in the NEAR future, maybe spring time it might drop but still

[unkempt lake]

Nvidia is good at that

[oblique solstice]

ye but thats cuz ppl are scalpers

fking nerds

they kill the market, mostly

[ashen spindle]

No because they just don’t make enough cards to satisfy demand at the start

[oblique solstice]

nvidia said theyre making more now with launch of 50 series

[ashen spindle]

They can’t produce enough, even if scalpers didn’t exist

[oblique solstice]

more than they ever did previously

[ashen spindle]

They say that every time

[oblique solstice]

truth be told...

[ashen spindle]

Because more people want one every time

[oblique solstice]

fking circus

ugh then it doesnt matter if i get it now or in 100 years

itll be the same

[ashen spindle]

Can’t wait for a month of telling people no the 5070 isn’t close to being faster than the 4090

[oblique solstice]

no what you do is you do not interact with those people at all

save your nerves for something else

[iron wave]

Who else is attempting to make a poor financial decision on the 30th?

[pale sigil]

What gpu is on the 30th

[iron wave]

5090

[pale sigil]

Ah ye no

[ashen spindle]

Im waiting for reviews

Since we don’t know how much better it is

[pale sigil]

I'll never understand why a lot of people get a 9 class

[wispy delta]

Same drop date for the rest of the 5000 series cards ?

[iron wave]

It's a dual slot and it should be at least as good as the 4090 and I have my reasons for wanting that without reviews.

[pale sigil]

No

[wispy delta]

SMH

[sturdy raven]

What about people trying to sell their 4090? They will get low balled by people that listen to nvidia

[pale sigil]

I hope so

[ashen spindle]

They won’t

[pale sigil]

I'll be keeping my eye out

[iron wave]

I'm not selling mine I have a use for it.

[ashen spindle]

You had like a day of people trying to sell their 2080ti for super cheap and then it was noticed it doesn’t make sense

And we get reviews before release

[iron wave]

After I get a 5090 I'm not buying another GPU for years.

[ashen spindle]

So people will see the 4090 is still better for gaming than a 5070 by a lot

[frozen ingot]

so many people charging close to msrp for their 1-2 year old cards on ad listings, its bizarre

[iron wave]

Yeah they are lying through their teeth about the 5070.

[wispy delta]

Was compared to have similar performance

[frozen ingot]

do they actually get sold eventually or why these copium priced cards keep popping up

[ashen spindle]

It was not clamped at all lol

They have similar performance if you use dlss to have 4x frames on it when the 4090 has only 2x lmfao

[iron wave]

The DLSS lies are pretty awful.

[ashen spindle]

And in Ai tasks it might be similar

[fair gull]

i wont. ill wait for reviews

[ashen spindle]

In gaming? Not even close

[fair gull]

so prob well after the 30th

[ashen spindle]

Remember NVIDIA doesn’t show comparisons they show you marketing

[wispy delta]

So everyone buy a 4090 lmaooo

[marsh glade]

I'll stick with my 3070 thanks

[iron wave]

The reviews should drop on the 30th.

[frozen ingot]

they're doing apple comparisons

[iron wave]

Nah I'm good with one.

[wispy delta]

Rocking a 3080 from 3 years ago still

[fair gull]

should and prob after all the stock is sold

[ashen spindle]

No it will be before

[pale sigil]

Same

[iron wave]

Nvidia has done embargos after the launch before IIRC.

[sturdy raven]

Buy but don’t open it. Return if reviews are not favorable?

[frozen ingot]

look how much faster it is over the old one on these very specific and carefully curated benchmark picks of tasks and softwares we think you'll care about

[ashen spindle]

Not in recent history and embargoes can’t last longer than launch

[pale sigil]

Sell it to a worthy owner

[iron wave]

Wasn't it like a single day?

[vague bronze]

is that true?

[ashen spindle]

No

[fair gull]

with DLSS and framegen maybe

but not raw performance

[ashen spindle]

They usually do reviews a day before

[vague bronze]

I wonder what the real prices will be for the 50xx series)

[frozen ingot]

gpu manufacturers and devs doing everything in their power to blur and misrepresent what is real frames per second and what's the result of their lazy optimization bandaids

[iron wave]

My plan is to put the 5090 in my workstation, move the 4090 to my VR computer, move the 3060 to my workstation for VMs and then not buy GPUs for 5+ years.

[steady sail]

Me who just want a GPU upgrade from the 6700 XT

[ashen spindle]

I imagine we get amd to reveal pricing and match it to 5070 for a chunk cheaper in a while too

[steady sail]

I just hope that the 9070 gonna be priced fairly

[iron wave]

Yeah there's no way that isn't their game and why they didn't announce anything with their GPUs.

[balmy vector]

Ai maxxing

[ashen spindle]

Might even reach 5070ti, we’ll have to see and hope

[sturdy raven]

Moving to 5090 allows more room between the gpu and the 10gb nic. Currently about 1mm of gap between them

[analog sinew]

5090 is so expensive....

[balmy vector]

Can buy many frogs with that money

And food for them

[ashen spindle]

Also I expect this gen’s actual performance to be smaller than what the 40 series gained over the 30

[gusty nexus]

It's the price of the 4090 in France (in euros)
So for the 5090 it's now over 2k in euros

[steel haven]

HAJA so true, I’m so hyped for the 50X series just for that

[frozen ingot]

its still going to sell more than what should be considered reasonable

[analog sinew]

i think i just get the 5080 i dont see it being worth double

[steel haven]

(Reseller on Leboncoin are gonna go crazy with that one)

[vague bronze]

What do you think the price will be at the start of sales?

[ashen spindle]

Exactly what they showed

And custom models a bit more as usual

[steady sail]

Me who thinking about that 4080 non-super for 722€

[cursive summit]

https://x.com/LaurakBuzz/status/1876581687842558371/photo/1

Laura Kate Dale - Bluesky @LauraKBuzz.bsky.social (@LaurakBuzz) on X

This is a new photo I have recieved from a trusted source showing a Switch 2 Dock, featuring visible input and output voltage information (other information obscured).

In addition, I have learned that the Switch 2 ships with a 60W charger for use with the dock.

Twitter · Jan 7, 2025, 10:48 AM

60W huh

Now, does the handheld have to do 60W docked

I certainly hope it does

[steel haven]

Would be insane tbh

[cursive summit]

More power more FPS

[steel haven]

People say it have the same performance as the PS4

[cursive summit]

PS4 Pro at that

[wild coyote]

Ill use a steam deck as a server

[old marlin]

wdym, it gets under 45W from the dock

[balmy vector]

At least more power than the ds lite

[steel haven]

All that to have a shitty 3D open world Pokémon game

[cursive summit]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DEg58MsvVpJ/

xfx_middleeast

Coming soon...24.1.25

#navi4 #navi48 #xfxglobal #xfx #xfxforcme

Instagram

Huh, so they are literally just waiting for Nvidia lol

[wild coyote]

I'll use the APU for server hosting 100%

[cursive summit]

January 24th RDNA4

[reef patrol]

Let me know when they succeed in that.

[steel haven]

We’ll be dead by then

[fair gull]

id wait for 50series prices and performance comprisons

[old marlin]

hey, at least might not drop like 10% of frames

[steady sail]

If in gonna wait for the 50 series i might be able to buy a 5060 with 8gb of vram

[steel haven]

Hating but will still buy new gen Pokémon game tho

[reef patrol]

All I know about the latest Pokeman games is that speedrunners won't use one of the two (not a bike) mons because the exhaust slows down FPS so much it kills runs 😄

[fair gull]

i mean atm the 5070 would be at the price point you posted

[old marlin]

and that is why they will stay bad

[fair gull]

i also buy them... yes

[steel haven]

HAHA wait for real ??
Didn’t except much from Nintendo but damn

[old marlin]

to be fair

games could look and run better on the switch

[steel haven]

yes we all buy Nintendo solo player game ofc

[old marlin]

the pokemon games just are horribly optimized

[reef patrol]

Sword and Shield was acceptable from what I recall. But definely hitting some noticeable drops in places.

[fair gull]

yes i like buying games

[old marlin]

small reminder that sword and shield already was a 3ds asset flip

and already had performance issues

[analog sinew]

if you consider n64 graphics not running well acceptable

[reef patrol]

Couldn't tell you - Never played Zeldork on anything than GBC or emulator.

[steel haven]

70$ Game btw

[fair gull]

weird i got a huge discount on it

although a certain other switch and game cost me an arm and a leg cause the special edition of the switch for the damn game came without the game

for whatever ungodly reason

[steel haven]

sksks wait what 😭 ?

[frozen ingot]

well it ran like ass for most part on the original system so that's the authentic experience

[old marlin]

btw

can't wait for the mortal kombat 9 switch 2

[steel haven]

make me remember that back in the game my mom bought me the 3ds Pokemon Y Edition cluelessly thinking it came WITH the game
Deeply hate nintendo since then

[fair gull]

ye unlike my new 3ds with pokemon plates for alpha sapphire the zelda TotK switch came with 0 game

[analog sinew]

didnt miss out on anything

[steel haven]

😭 Damn, isn't it like 500$ also ~ ?

[analog sinew]

trash of the kingdom

[iron wave]

TotK is pretty decent.

[fair gull]

i paid 369eur

so like 380 or 390usd

[steel haven]

Oh you're german ?

[fair gull]

well its complicated

i live in NL

[reef patrol]

Occupation? No just visiting.

[fair gull]

i was mainly bummed out cause while it is an oled swiotch those werent that expensive back then

either way at the end i was a bit sad but im also a massive zelda fan and welkcome my first oled switch

[atomic nimbus]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/keyboards/ch-9109410-na/k70-rgb-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-with-pbt-double-shot-pro-keycaps-cherry-mx-red-ch-9109410-na

I'm cheap, should I get this?

70$ off right now

[frozen ingot]

used those a bit and not a fan personally

[atomic nimbus]

Which part do you dislike?

[digital cliff]

2009 purchase

with 1980s switches let's gooo

[frozen ingot]

not a fan of the case design or how it feels in terms of fit and finish, weird mix of cheap plastic and alu top plate to make it more "premium"

[atomic nimbus]

Hmm, I might buy it still if it's that's like the only problem

I'm not particularly sensitive to touch because I'm used to rough surfaces

[frozen ingot]

the stock switches are pretty bland too, not sure if you can swap them but that would at least improve the typing aspect

[atomic nimbus]

There is key caps options, so it's definitely swappable

[quaint dew]

dogshit

[atomic nimbus]

Elaborate please

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle any laptop news

[quaint dew]

build and materials severely lacking
performance is nothing special
low quality keycaps
bad switches tolerance wise
sounds pretty bad

you want a fullsize mech board?

[frozen ingot]

I dunno for a low enough price it might be considerable, but then am kinda ruined by my wootings for me I would either go cheapo mech kb or save up for a wooting, most of the expensive mech kbs that still use regular switches doesn't really perform better in any significant way

[balmy vector]

ITS BACK!!!

[atomic nimbus]

I want high responsive full keyboards

[quaint dew]

keychron v5/6 max are gonna be way way better than k70

if you want responsive get a wooting two HE

best fullsize HE

[atomic nimbus]

Hmm

Hold on lemme check it

[frozen ingot]

you're mostly paying for the case and rgb when you're paying more than like €50-70 for a typical mech board

[steady sail]

Thats true tho

[atomic nimbus]

Ah alright

[atomic nimbus]

I'm gonna have this as an option

Thanks

[reef patrol]

@quin any gpu news

[quaint dew]

if you want normal mechanical get keychron v5/6 max

if you want hall effect which is more responsive wooting two he is the best option

[pale sigil]

You forgot to tag hun

[atomic nimbus]

Thanks a lot for the info

[reef patrol]

I'd never.

[balmy vector]

Mansen doesnt wanna ping quin more than whats necessary

[frozen ingot]

might be worth considering bst listings for a used two HE if you can't afford the full retail

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle did it for you don't worry

[atomic nimbus]

I could save up

Does wooting do sales or not?

[steady sail]

Nope

[frozen ingot]

imo its worth it if you really want the best performance and also a long-term investment you can trust to work for many years

[atomic nimbus]

Thanks for letting me know

[frozen ingot]

and when it eventually doesn't you can fix basically everything on a wooting board

[atomic nimbus]

Long investment, yeah I can keep my stuff working for years

[frozen ingot]

I can pretty much guarantee the big bois like razer, corsair etc won't be able to or be interested in fixing an old broken kb of theirs

they're not designed to be servicable, the wootings are

[atomic nimbus]

Razer keyboards are mostly a miss, I never had a Corsair so I needed some information.

Okay so I think I'm saving some cash for the two HE then

[pale sigil]

I had Corsair years ago

It was nice till I got my wooting one

[frozen ingot]

steelseries still use thruhole rgb leds on their apex pro boards that mounts through the switch casing so you can't even replace a switch should one break there's a theme of designing stuff to be manufactured as cheap and painless as possible for these corpos, when it breaks you just buy a new keyboard amiright

[atomic nimbus]

lol, seems like keyboard service is the main reason for anything to be good. Seems like wooting outperforms them in that context

[frozen ingot]

60HE and 80HE in particular has taken a lot of cues from the custom kb community in terms of compatibility and construction, basically you can swap out every individual part should it be nescessary

[atomic nimbus]

If modern phones were the same man..

[frozen ingot]

its an issue in general with modern electronics, I see it as a big plus if I can find anything user service friendly period now

wooting wants an excuse to innovate on mice before considering making one, I say just make a fully servicable one, that's as innovative as can be in todays market

[atomic nimbus]

The problem with mice is that you can't just easily open them up and replace all the parts, I have a g402 for 7 years and it's getting really dirty and stuff so that's getting replaced eventually. Watching the tutorials for cleaning one is absolutely diabolical

[lyric hatch]

EGG is already pretty mod friendly

[balmy vector]

🥚

[frozen ingot]

I've fixed a few mice myself but yes they are on average a royal pita to work on

[atomic nimbus]

Not like modern laptops 😭

[cursive summit]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-50-series-graphics-cards-gpu-laptop-announcements/

Thisi is cool honestly

[lyric hatch]

they have holes in the skates so you can easily take their mice apart without taking off the skates and they sell switches you can easily swap between https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/accessories/op1-universal-switch-pack

[cursive summit]

The texture compression is kinda nice

[atomic nimbus]

That looks cool

[severe phoenix]

https://youtu.be/HGQ_evDIkHQ

[frozen ingot]

yeah the modern thinbois are basically just held together by glue everywhere, whatever components you were hoping to swap are hard soldered in anyways so why would you wanna open it

[atomic nimbus]

Frankenstein my laptop

No other reason

[frozen ingot]

had one of those big chonker 17" asus gaming laptops for a long time, to their credit I was able to access all 4 ram slots and 3 drivebays for replacements and expansions, also managed to track down replacement cooling fans on aliexpress and replace those, probably got another 2-3 years out of that thing bc of it

[atomic nimbus]

Awesome

[frozen ingot]

phones and laptops in particular end up near unfixable as a result of people wanting the thinnest device possible, those modular options are interesting but too much compromises to consider

ain't noone gonna pay 50% more for a fairphone over an assmung with the same internals

[modern sky]

Same with frameworks

[frozen ingot]

yep

[modern sky]

Even tho i love framework I can't justify buying a model 16 for 2.5k over a 2k pc and a 500 euro laptop to pair it with for travels because cloud computing is just cheaper

[frozen ingot]

I love the idea of framework, but the cost penalties you get from having such niche functionality kinda affects those most interested in such a device for financial reasons

[modern sky]

Also almost 2 years without new gpu options makes me question frameworks future

[modern sky]

Yeah and even the factory seconds even tho they are good aren't great there are some features you just can't justify

Unironically most people get a better use from their boards alone than the units

[frozen ingot]

imo it would kinda have to become a multi manufacturer ecosystem to really have a shot at mainstream adaption

[modern sky]

Yeah

I mean framework 13 factory second unit is a good deal you can score one for 400 euro

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/WXaM4WK3bzg

Honestly, kinda nice

[frozen ingot]

now you're basically buying into an apple ecosystem but instead of a software walled garden its a hardware one

[modern sky]

But as it stands framework 16 isn't worth it

[cursive summit]

DLSS is just becoming better and better

And AMD didn't even bother to show off FSR4

[wispy delta]

How much do you think 4090 would be after 5000 series drop? I feel like it’s gonna be expensive still

[cursive summit]

Yes

[modern sky]

It won't drop for a while

[frozen ingot]

are the framework module addon design documents even open sourced so anyone can have a crack at making 3rd party modules

[modern sky]

You can sign an NDA to get access to the motherboard docs

And im p sure even cad files for cases

[rough osprey]

is dlss like sharp now or still a noticeable downgrade compared to without

[modern sky]

Wait no their cases are cast

[frozen ingot]

well that's something, but you'd think making it as easy as possible for third parties to get encouraged making more modules would be in frameworks best interests

[balmy vector]

New update to it should improve clarity but will have to test out first i think

[rough osprey]

i hope

[frozen ingot]

nerds sitting on piles of developer boards and a 3d printer would be all over that if they could

[lyric hatch]

I mean even now I use it in pretty much every new game I play, added performance for very little degredation in quality

in some aspects it improves quality

[balmy vector]

1440p dlss quality is just very nice

[rough osprey]

dont know about 3.5 but 3 looked kinda bad to me :/

[lyric hatch]

Oh not frame gen, I don't own a card that even supports that so I can't tell you how that is

[modern sky]

Honestly whatever lets you escape 1080p rabbit hole

I cant wait to upgrade from my laptop will defo toy with that

[upper imp]

Aged pretty badly... But ey, he was spot on #🔌│tech message

[wispy delta]

I’ve got a 1440p atm but want to upgrade to a OLED 1440p

[steady sail]

a normal IPS 1440p monitor is more than enough for me i dont need "cleaner blacks"

[balmy vector]

Oled main and ips secondary is great

[digital cliff]

i'm just too cheap to pay money for a nicer monitor when I got my 165hz1440p IPS for 150€ used like 3 years ago

[frozen ingot]

dlss is getting pretty gud but also relies on the game devs contiously updating their already released titles to make use of it

can't just use whatever version was most recent when your game released and never touch it again

[lyric hatch]

well 75 titles with DLSS 4 support on release is pretty solid

[balmy vector]

Apparently you can override the dlss in the nvidia app when it gets updated

[rough osprey]

oled main and oled secondary

[balmy vector]

To use the latest

[digital cliff]

no secondary 🤝

[balmy vector]

A single monitor fiend

I respect it

[rough osprey]

but only 2 games with reflex 2...

[frozen ingot]

really wish they'd add dlss to HD2, their proprietary upscaler is rather awful

[cursive summit]

2300 euro here so close enough lol

[rough osprey]

atleast 5080 is exactly same price as 4080

[balmy vector]

Having to use native during the dives otherwise ill be sad

[lyric hatch]

yeah I think that might be significantly more work to implement

[steady sail]

that 5070 looks more and more juicy

[balmy vector]

Wonder how it tastes

[frozen ingot]

am stuck on ultra quality to get sufficiently smooth gameplay, it's tolerable but sadly a bit too noticable

[steady sail]

Lekker switches is still the best taste wise

[rough osprey]

why did the finals decide to do it

dont they have other problems

[lyric hatch]

gotta do something to revive their dead game I guess

[balmy vector]

Maybe one day

[rough osprey]

less latency will save it 🔥

[steady sail]

atleast on 1440p low its not that bad

nah i lied

[balmy vector]

The finals has the issue of a good game but declining playerbase

[lyric hatch]

at least 3 people will redownload to try it out

[frozen ingot]

any lower and it kinda starts affecting your gameplay performance because things are so damn blurry and aliased it gets harder to make stuff out at range and in busy engagements

[balmy vector]

Maybe the updated dlss will help with black ops 6s fuzziness

[frozen ingot]

am running 1440p medium on most settings

[rough osprey]

another game where i dont understand how it runs so bad

[balmy vector]

Ragdolls are funny though

[frozen ingot]

tbh the game looks good enough on medium already but the upscaler is the main partypooper

[balmy vector]

Glad they brought back ragdolls

[frozen ingot]

use dlss and image sharpening to replace the detail you lost having to turn down the settings and TAA being the only AA option with machinelearned guesswork

[steady sail]

why do i play older games most of the time

[balmy vector]

Because good games stay good games even years after release

[frozen ingot]

I wonder how much of the image on screen will be literally made up by your gpu in a couple years when UE5 is the only game engine still being used and it won't run well even on your 20 grand RTX10900

upscaling restoring the lost details that was never there in the first place

[balmy vector]

Cant restore the lost details in my wallet though

[frozen ingot]

inb4 banks develop a system using arbitrary interest rates and savings predictions to bring us an upscaled account balance

[digital cliff]

multiple-worth-generation

1000€ = 4000€

[frozen ingot]

experience a significant increase in your perceived wealth and social stature without the actual financial leverage required

[modern sky]

Im gonna be starting uni soon, any recommendations when trying to pick a budget laptop that could surive 10 hours of lectures on one charge ?

[analog sinew]

plug it in at your seat

[modern sky]

Im split between getting a chromebook or a post lease U rated laptop from 2018

[modern sky]

Im not sure we are getting charging ports at uni

[analog sinew]

waow

[wispy delta]

Can you even buy 4090 or 4080’s atm?

[old marlin]

man I love MLID for all the wrong reasons

[old marlin]

4080 yes, 4090 has been discontinued for months

AMD -0.13%

nvidia -4.97%

[rough osprey]

nvidia lost??

[wispy delta]

No way fr ?

[severe phoenix]

Lmao the fguck

https://fixupx.com/finalmouse/status/1872356724130390482

Seriously Finalmeme is insane https://fixupx.com/finalmouse/status/1871641169614250419

129$ mousepad

[leaden kiln]

yeah costs the same as a limited wallhack pad 😭

[magic minnow]

The newest Macbook

[severe phoenix]

And they spend so much money doing a dune parody...for a FUCKING MOUSEPAD

[cedar fog]

what is the use case of this

[reef patrol]

Surfaces that flex and shrink slightly?

[leaden kiln]

isn't that for the new mice? not the pad

[sudden imp]

That’s really cool!

It’d suck if a cat popped it though

[magic minnow]

If I don’t get a 5090 I’m gonna lose my mind

[severe phoenix]

Lol

[frozen ingot]

$129 is way too cheap for a finalmouse

[ashen spindle]

oh no, I'm sure not having a 4090 iwht 25% more performance is going to be horrible

[leaden kiln]

Yeah $129 is for the pad
I'm saying the dune video is the mice, and they cost the usual $189

[frozen ingot]

idk I can't really justify spending more than like $600 on a gpu and my position on that hasn't really changed since...ever

[undone sun]

Hey whats the best graphic card for up to 400€?

[frozen ingot]

I enjoy muh vidyagaems like anyone else but not to a point where it cost me thousands of $

[compact relic]

RX 7700 XT maybe

[modern sky]

its twice my budget

actually no 3 times

[undone sun]

I was told a 4060 ti was good so which one?

[modern sky]

also unironically if I could mac book m1 would be almost perfect for that

altho a tad overkill

[ashen spindle]

7700xt is quite a bit ahead of the 4060ti

[undone sun]

oh okay then

[ashen spindle]

also has more vram so if you play something newer you wont run into the 8gb issue on the 4060ti potentially

[undone sun]

Does the ryzen 7600x still work with it tho?

[undone sun]

ok nice ill get that then

[frozen ingot]

I usually look at things like factory overclocked versions and also how its cooler is done, higher clock from factory suggests a nicer specimen was selected for that version, also larger diameter fans is generally preferable to smaller and more fans in terms of noise which is what I mainly care about

then try to find what best matches my budget on those criterias

[undone sun]

damn so i dont understand that quite well

[ashen spindle]

find the model you want, sort by price, check if the cheapest models have reviews, look if they have any issue and if not grab that one

[undone sun]

ok ill do that

[frozen ingot]

almost every gpu model like 4060, 4070, ti or not is usually available in like 2-3 or more versions based on the same core chipset but with various levels of overclocking and often in case of the highest oc ones they have beefed up cooling over the manufacturers default specs

[undone sun]

ohhhh i see bit i think ill just stick to the 7700xt

[frozen ingot]

am guessing its a similar ordeal with a lot of the radeon models but its been a while since I last got any of those

[leaden kiln]

https://x.com/WallhackHQ/status/1876660567085039993

WALLHACK© (@WallhackHQ) on X

5080: $999
5070 Ti: $749
5070: $549
Cat GPU: Priceless

Twitter · Jan 7, 2025, 4:02 PM

[undone sun]

@frozen ingot you think you could take a look at the things i have so far?

[frozen ingot]

post it in here if possible and others can have a peek also

[undone sun]

this is what i came up with idk any of that stuff so pls font flame me for some mistakes🙏😭

[frozen ingot]

you will have to swap out the ram at least, socket am5 is ddr5 only

[wispy delta]

& need storage so an SSD would be good

& also fans

[frozen ingot]

can recommend the ones am using, same branding as the ones you picked, kingston fury ddr5 6000mhz cl30 2x16gb

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7k6Ydb

[analog sinew]

that ssd seems expensive

[frozen ingot]

this is what I built a couple months ago as a good bang for buck platform

yeah should be the 1tb version in my case

[analog sinew]

oh is pcie 5

why that

[frozen ingot]

it had a nice discount at the time of purchase

[analog sinew]

ah ok i see

[frozen ingot]

same with the 4060, its def a pass for msrp

[undone sun]

these any good?

[rich hound]

razer deathadder v3 feels like shit compared to the v2

[undone sun]

fax

[undone sun]

whats that??

[analog sinew]

a type of hard drive

[frozen ingot]

am using arctic p12 pwm pst fans in my case, like €7-8 a pop and they nice and quiet

[whole axle]

wwwwww

[rough osprey]

👍

[frozen ingot]

you want an nvme ssd for your operating system and preferably most newer games, there's so called m.2 ports on your motherboard for it

[magic minnow]

Best mouse

[wispy delta]

Bruh fr ??

[undone sun]

this good?

[undone sun]

yes fr idk anything abt that

[frozen ingot]

if its the 6000mhz cl30 then yeah they've been rock solid for me

[whole axle]

it was this or getting ulx today. think i made the smarter choice

[magic minnow]

I love my VV3P

[whole axle]

how do i check for updates

firmware

[magic minnow]

https://mysupport.razer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14169/~/razer-viper-v3-pro-firmware-updater-|-rz01-0512

[severe phoenix]

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/7/24338028/lenovo-legion-go-s-steam-windows

[broken moat]

Well the 5070ti also has 16 Gb

Why the heck would you put both the 5070ti and 5080 at 16 gb

[magic minnow]

To sell the 5080super later on

[broken moat]

Precisely

[steady sail]

to release a 5080 Ti or Super with 20GB

[broken moat]

So it makes no sense to buy the 5070ti or the 5080 if the super ever comes out

[frozen ingot]

vram blueballing is nvidia tradition at this point

[hasty thunder]

because nVidia got blamed for undersizing their memory for years while AMD even packed their lower SKU cards with 16 GB. Whether you need it or not

[undone sun]

so i have this now still missing something?

[magic minnow]

The only one that’s worth buying is the 5090

[frozen ingot]

cpu cooler, other than that I think you got a working pc out of those things

[broken moat]

It’s so infuriating, luckily I manage to get a 7900xt for good price

[broken moat]

Yup but break the bank for $2000

[hasty thunder]

still, i haven't seen any regular gamer actually utilizing more than 13 GB VRAM

[whole axle]

this the latest version or it auto detects the m,o9st recent?

[magic minnow]

Should be the most recent

[broken moat]

It’s 4k gaming, you need 16 gb minimum to be comfortable

If you’re on 1440p you’re fine

[hasty thunder]

[magic minnow]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D949MRNM?

[hasty thunder]

did you check the Steam Hardware Survey and how many actually run their games at 4k?

[steady sail]

[ashen spindle]

a number bigger than the people owning a 4090/4080

[broken moat]

Makes sense most people play competitive games you don’t give a crap about image quality just how much frames you can get

[frozen ingot]

am using this also but the SE one, different paint scheme

[ashen spindle]

point is we have seen games now where the 8gb of cards has not been enough on 1440p even and these cards will have to run much more demanding games

[magic minnow]

Where are you from if you don’t mind me asking

[steady sail]

i took that picture from wallhack

[magic minnow]

Oh ok lol was about to ask because of the Spanish

[frozen ingot]

yeah am still not gonna bother with stalker 2 on my 4060

[unkempt lake]

Some people just set some super low res upscaling

[unkempt lake]

It'd probably be fine tbh

[hasty thunder]

that's certainly true, yet there's no point in worrying about 16 GB being not enough. Most people won't even use 12 GB VRAM

[unkempt lake]

Just lower some settings

[frozen ingot]

at least not until they've done at least some polishing on the performance side

[ashen spindle]

they push it as AI cards the same time and you need vram there even more

and for the price they could easily add more

[unkempt lake]

12gb is the minimum for a new card nowadays

[hasty thunder]

nVidias logic: But GDDR7 goes brrr

[unkempt lake]

Imo

[steady sail]

uhm RIP AU

[unkempt lake]

What's their tax rate

[hasty thunder]

insanity

[sudden imp]

Australia always got the short end of the stick when it comes to imports

[unkempt lake]

Remember tax is included in the price in some countries and not in some others

[sudden imp]

Honestly they should build fabs to make use of all the unused space

[magic minnow]

@floral copper Buy it bro

[hasty thunder]

Fabs require freaking expensive equipment, work force, knowledge and work force to train the upcoming work force. Before a fab starts to become profitable they run for years on debts

[frozen ingot]

not to mention running such a factory in the scorching australian outback

[hasty thunder]

Sometimes they don't even equal the debt to build the fab

[frozen ingot]

would need as much power as the whole factory or more just to cool it with air conditioning

[steady sail]

so in most EU countries the 5090 gonna cost 2.329 €

[hasty thunder]

basically, yeah

[ashen spindle]

thats not an issue the bigger one is you would need all the packaging and co there as well since it cant be shipped to malaysia and back to back assembled and such

[hasty thunder]

don't forget that partner GPUs will cost even more

AssUs will probably charge like 3k€ for their Rog Strix

[fickle ore]

cant afford? Too bad. Get intel

[frozen ingot]

so who's hyped for those rumored new tarriffs in the states

[ashen spindle]

the gpus might not even be hit by them

because they are already excempt atm

[fickle ore]

its gonna suck lol

[ashen spindle]

and also they dont really package them in china so wouldnt hit them anyway

[hasty thunder]

you know they'll put the additional costs onto the final customer at the end, right?

[fickle ore]

ill be mad if my McD bögö price goes up due to tariffs

[sudden imp]

rip

[ashen spindle]

gpus get made in taiwan, packaged mostly in malaysia or indonesia, so china tarrifs wont really hit them aside from maybe some component costs

[fickle ore]

USA tariffs dude

[frozen ingot]

you mean there's cases where they don't put the additional costs on someone other than the end customer?

[ashen spindle]

yeah the us isnt going to put tarrifs onto taiwan?

[hasty thunder]

Tarife or not. It's highly unlikely the end customer gets any benefits from that

[fickle ore]

there putting tariffs on everyone including EU

[marsh glade]

Googles: "What is a tariff?"

[ashen spindle]

thats what the average trump voter understood of tarrifs

they assumed china pays for it

[cursive summit]

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/6/24337345/intel-discrete-gpu-ces-2025

When do they give up though

[marsh glade]

wErEE guNNa MaKe TeM PaY!!

[fickle ore]

shocked pikatchu

[ashen spindle]

the headline is stupid, they are not going to kill graphics as long as intel exists

[cursive summit]

I mean, already investing billions makes no sense to just can it after 2 gens lol, and B580 is doing fine in sales

[frozen ingot]

just like that time mexico paid for the wall

[ashen spindle]

the question is if they are going to axe dedicated GPUs

[hasty thunder]

You didn't realize their Battlemage Launch was extremely successful for them, did you?

[ashen spindle]

it doesnt make them money, doesnt matter how successful it is

[cursive summit]

You seem to have not read the article this time

[fickle ore]

Really? Remains to be seen imo

[cursive summit]

"Intel will not kill off its discrete graphics business."

[cursive summit]

And no, they are vowing not to

[ashen spindle]

yes I didnt say they are not talking about it, I just said the headline makes no sese since that's never a question

even the url is more accurate so I assume the editor has no clue and changed it

[hasty thunder]

well, anyway, all i'm hoping for now is a 5080 Aorus Master for around 1.3k

[frozen ingot]

hopefully amd and intel can duke it out in the midrange segment to hopefully result in actually solid midrange picks

[ashen spindle]

lmao amd doesnt care about intel in gpus

[frozen ingot]

yet

[hasty thunder]

They do since Intel isn't eating from nVidias cake, but AMDs instead

[ashen spindle]

no they dont

[fickle ore]

amd and intel catching up seems more a case of when Nvidia is quitting consumer gpus, so likely not in atleast for the next 5-10 yrs

[ashen spindle]

amd wants margins, intel is losing money, they arent going to cut their prices to lose money and gain nothing

[fickle ore]

software isnt there

[ashen spindle]

alchemist got intel a <1% marketshare

[frozen ingot]

don't think nvidia will quit the consumer space anytime soon

[unkempt lake]

Gigabyte is just as bad as asus warranty wise tho

[ashen spindle]

nvidia will never abandon consumer because thats how they have the education->hpc/DC/AI pipeline set up

learn cuda, do cuda later

[hasty thunder]

Actually never had any issues with Gigabyte. In fact they've treated me very nicely

[ashen spindle]

its a profitable segment that ensures people will be wanting more nvidia in data center

[unkempt lake]

Maybe it's changed since then

Was a few years ago

[frozen ingot]

even though the consumer/gaming slice of their income is rather insignificant to what they rake in on the AI/server stuff

[unkempt lake]

I had good rma experiences with MSI personally @hasty thunder

[ashen spindle]

its like a >50% hardware research overlap for the area and the money they make on gaming alone is more than other companies

[fickle ore]

Gaming prob gets relegated to shit tier nodes before that happens, personally

[ashen spindle]

nope, because then they would lose the consumer market

[fickle ore]

nm 2 nodes and below are too costly for gaming

[hasty thunder]

So did i with Gigabyte. When my X570 was DoA they apologized for it and sent me a replacement without questions

[ashen spindle]

that would just make it even more costly to do R&D on multiple nodes with very different abilities

you would not actually save money doing that

[hasty thunder]

even forgot to put the Sata Cables back into the box, yet they didn't give a fuck

Got a replacement the same week i've RMA'd the board, sealed AND express shipped

[broken moat]

Nyumi just be careful with Asus and gigabyte mixed reviews when it comes to rma and customer service

[fickle ore]

Nvidia is already looking for other node than tmsc 2 nm based on leaks. Prob bs but TSM and Nvidia has a history. Nvidia has to keep those 70% gross margins to keep share price stable. It's priced to perfection atm. TSM doesnt like how much money Nvidia is making off of them.

[ashen spindle]

yes its massive bs lmfao

[fickle ore]

Nah

[ashen spindle]

everything that says amd or nvidia are going big on samsung is massive bs

[unkempt lake]

I had a dead out of warranty z390 board from msi which was like 3 months out of warranty and they replaced it without any issues no fees nothing

[ashen spindle]

samsung advanced nodes are not working well enough

[fickle ore]

Jensen doesnt like TSMC jacking up prices just for them

It could be 18A

14A

Tahts fine for me

[ashen spindle]

that would be nice

[cursive summit]

What's the source on "TSMC jacking up prices"

[ashen spindle]

common sense and tsmc literally talking about it

[fickle ore]

LE REDDIT 😄

[hasty thunder]

Neither does TSMC like that AMD gained a massive profit, yet they don't really care since they've gained a shit ton of money too by AMDs success themself

it's a win/win for both sides

[ashen spindle]

what, why would tsmc not like that amd has good profits now

they are nowhere near apple or nvidia margins

tsmc are happy they have another big customer thats dependent on them lol

[fickle ore]

Nvidia switched to samsung 8 nm a few years back? Was it 3000 gen?

cuz Jensen is greedy goblin 😄

[ashen spindle]

that was dual sourced, data center was still on tsmc

and the nodes were similar enough

[fickle ore]

but the motivation was still there

hes looking for cheaper deals that lets him buy next yacht

[ashen spindle]

also 8nm was fine, samsung has not had any great node since

[fickle ore]

it was hot

amd nearly catched up

[ashen spindle]

but only tsmc really had a good EUV node since then and now samsung struggles with GAAFET so more nodes that dont look great

[whole axle]

should i have game mode n?

on

[fickle ore]

yea

[whole axle]

ive heard yes and no so wasnt sure

[ashen spindle]

game mode of what

[whole axle]

windows

[wispy delta]

What website is best to purchase 5000 series?

[ashen spindle]

wherever it will be in stock

[analog sinew]

ebay

[slow trench]

23days left till 5090 time!

[fickle ore]

mm yeah they suck now but im still bullish on samsung

[ashen spindle]

well, you might be the only one outside of korea

[fickle ore]

lOl

tehy made some partnership with intel where they share knowledge relating to gaafet + bspd etc

could be epic fusion

[ashen spindle]

like they are on the second 3nm/gaafet node and the only chip is some watch chip because yields are still atrocious

[broken moat]

I wish you luck

[pale sigil]

This is interesting.... Google is offering either a free battery replacement, $50 cash or $100 towards an upgrade for the pixel 4, did something happen?

[fickle ore]

gaafet is hard maybe, or samsung just sucks

[ashen spindle]

both?

[slow trench]

Ty! will be alot of f5 spam 🙂

[ashen spindle]

they also had long time issues with EUV

[fickle ore]

theyre too burnout from working 18h days lol

0 creativity, rip

[pale sigil]

Apparently reports of battery swelling

[ashen spindle]

but like 2nm should be in mass production this year from samsun and last repots still had it at like 20% yields

[fickle ore]

mm

wait isnt 18A gaafet + bspd

samsung is goners if so

[ashen spindle]

yeah

[cedar fog]

they had issues with the pixel 8 as well

with lines appearing on the screen

they started offering free repairs

only after a bunch of people complained and they got in trouble

[undone sun]

hey so i can not afford 1.2k pc anyway to make it cheaper?

[analog sinew]

can you reuse your current pc case?

[cedar fog]

cheaper case or reuse

[bronze vessel]

Pretty exciting insights https://youtu.be/xpzufsxtZpA?si=rDbORDjvul_qqgpY

[undone sun]

i dont have one😭

[undone sun]

thatll save me like 70€ max

are pc cases universal or do I have to look out for something?

[analog sinew]

there are size standards

you need one that fits ATX motherboards as thats what you chose

also you need to check clearances but none of your parts are big enough for that to be an issue

so unless you chose a super small case it should fit

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/ i also heavily recommend using pcpartpicker

[wispy delta]

Lian-Li cases are fire

[analog sinew]

its easier for sharing and it gives you price comparisons

[analog sinew]

not for someone trying to save money and over budget

[cedar fog]

this new model does seem like a substantial improvement

especially if paired with reflex

[magic minnow]

Damn all the one plus 13 reviews came out at the same time lol

[undone sun]

Thank you

[cedar fog]

dlss 4 actually seems nice

only thing id want in that video is more of those comparisons including native

[magic minnow]

I’ll genuinely cry if I can’t snag a founders edition

[cedar fog]

I'm glad to see reflex 2 and dlss 4 are backwards compat

[analog sinew]

i can never decide if I want FE or partner board

[magic minnow]

FE for the size imo

[ashen spindle]

you mean like they had a first look at the 4090 and oversold the shit out of RT and dlss?

[analog sinew]

hmm i dont think i'm so size constrained.

[ashen spindle]

sorry but for nvidia cards digital foundry have sorta lost all credit

[analog sinew]

price and cooling performance are my concerns. the price on FE is usually good but no idea how the cooler performs

[cedar fog]

it is a red flag they aren't comparing native

[magic minnow]

Gonna have to wait and see

[cedar fog]

but the improvements to the smear if true are huge imo

[ashen spindle]

ofc they are only showing what nvidia says is okay so its more marketing than a actual first look

[cedar fog]

especially on older gen cards

[magic minnow]

But the 5090fe being a 2slot is crazy cause I think the 4090fe was a 3 slot

[ashen spindle]

this is just them doing marketing for nvidia not a serious review

[cedar fog]

I could tell

they have like zero negatives to say about dlss 4

we shall see

[light drum]

yo i have a problem i set my keyboard rgb to plain white and yet it puts cyan and pink everytime

[cedar fog]

once cards drop

[cedar fog]

it doesn't have a dedicated white led

so it will never be truly white

[analog sinew]

i have enough slots 🤷‍♂️

[light drum]

well still when i put it on rainbow it does this

[cedar fog]

oh like

[ashen spindle]

its just so funny because on DLSS they say DLLS gives free performance, for fsr they say it could reduce performance lmfao

[light drum]

and i set the rgb to rainbow

[analog sinew]

show your wootility

[ashen spindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/TechnicallyLog1/status/1710430545346191534/video/1

[cedar fog]

yeah no I don't expect dlss or fsr to improve performance

you're usually sacrificing input latency

it just makes it visually smoother

[analog sinew]

can you maybe crop it more i could almost see something

[cedar fog]

that's crazy

what a shill ass company

[ashen spindle]

its so funny, but also sad

[cedar fog]

they're both gonna have that same cost

that's so crazy

they're glazing Nvidia

[ashen spindle]

see thats the best part

[light drum]

tak?

[ashen spindle]

fsr frame gen is actually lower overhead than dlss3

[cedar fog]

yeah I've used it a few times with better performance

[undone sun]

Choose Your Parts - PCPartPicker

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/
this shit still so expensive what am I doing wrong☠️🙏

[cedar fog]

worse picture quality tho for sure

they all have a cost

[light drum]

@analog sinew

[ashen spindle]

well if you use dlss upscaling and fsr framegen thats the best you can get

[cedar fog]

still really curious about this transformer model

[light drum]

can anyone help me please?

[cedar fog]

I wanna see the tech behind it

to reconstruct motion so well

[compact relic]

You linked the website not your parts list

[light drum]

can someone help me please

[undone sun]

click on the top one should work

[light drum]

Shampa can u help me perhaps

[compact relic]

I can see from the url it's just the site

[undone sun]

wait i’ll retry

[light drum]

please can just any1 help me with my 60he rgb lighting

[undone sun]

there it is

[compact relic]

What is your budget if 1k is too much

[reef patrol]

That all looks reasonable, except overpaying for Windows.

[undone sun]

like 700-900€

[undone sun]

oh okay thanks

[undone sun]

thatll still be 1k😭

[compact relic]

If you want to get it to 700 range you might wanna go with am4 cpu and mobo

[pale sigil]

Wrong video

https://youtu.be/3a8dScJg6O0

[compact relic]

B450 mobo with like ryzen 5600 and ddr4 ram

could drop the psu to 650w with this setup too

[cedar fog]

if you're at like 900€ couldn't you save a bit more

do you have any form of income

[undone sun]

yeah ig but you could say that at every budget

[compact relic]

Also dont get a 3060

[undone sun]

as soon as i choose a budget for the cpu it wont show me the prices of them

[compact relic]

100 eur doesnt get you that much further after ~1k

[undone sun]

what cpu would you recommend as of the am4

[compact relic]

something like 5700 altho im not that familiar with am4

[vapid ruin]

5700x3d

[steady sail]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/pPMRVF and with going with am4 its even cheaper

[vapid ruin]

going am5 immediately not bad either, could prop score 9800x3d used in 2-3 years

[undone sun]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
i do think ill just get the other one its „just“ 150€ more

[steady sail]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/X9sqHW ?

[steady sail]

There is that to copy the part list

[compact relic]

You linked an empty list again

[undone sun]

fucking hell

[steady sail]

The am4 setup price is Total:
€943.64
AM5: Total:
€983.01

[cedar fog]

yeah also

[steady sail]

The ones that i built atleast

[cedar fog]

don't buy a windows licenses for $100

[undone sun]

i think i have one now hold up

[steady sail]

U can just buy a key somewhere else

Or from someone

[sudden imp]

https://youtu.be/dQ8gSV_KyDw?si=8baT3wYbAjB1vRPP “DO YOU LIKE MY JACKET” goes hard

[undone sun]

@steady sail could you send the link from your list again with a case which has two transparent sides