🔌│tech

[cursive summit]

I am hoping for leaks, quin my dear

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/WJoaV5NnPtw

20 mins

We'll.. see

[balmy vector]

UPSCALE

[cursive summit]

I dunno, I think this will be something that inserts itself into graphics pipeline to do something fancy

[rough osprey]

are they gonna launch 11800x3d

[magic minnow]

DLSS4 is gonna revolutionize gaming

[balmy vector]

It will add frames to my frames

[vapid ruin]

FULLY AI GENERATED FRAME

[steady sail]

i cant wait for the 800x3d and the 950x3d CPU's

[balmy vector]

And then add frames on top of those frames

And then more frames

Frames for everyone

[ashen spindle]

it will steal frames from you when I use it, thats how they get more

[balmy vector]

Illegal…

[ashen spindle]

could just be frame extrapolation instead of lerping them, likely just as bad for latency though

[marsh pewter]

my dad is john nvidia and he said DLSS will give you 70% more frame per frame every frame

[ashen spindle]

or better latency but free dose of more TAA on top

[deft raptor]

🍿

[balmy vector]

Dlss4: ultra sharpener

Sharpen until we go back to jaggies

[marsh pewter]

imagine if ary was still here 😔

[deft raptor]

There was some reddit comments where they claim that rendered 7000 series gpu worthless

[marsh pewter]

sometimes I miss his arguments

[deft raptor]

He got banned ?

[marsh pewter]

he left im pretty sure

I don’t think he ever got banned

[ashen spindle]

he had an "epic owning" message after the timeout

[deft raptor]

Ah, rip

[ashen spindle]

and then got banned

[balmy vector]

Ye i think hes banned

[marsh pewter]

oh ok

[deft raptor]

Ah, for some reason I faintly remember seeing the interaction of ary in this chat here.
Not sure if I bother to find this in backlog.

[ashen spindle]

yes that did unfortunately happen

anyway, for the keynote I'm expecting rdna4 mostly talking about efficiency and RT and fsr4, probably not pricing and that it comes in a month perhaps

and strix halo and lots of AI

[deft raptor]

Gotcha, I will do my best to ignore any leaks as they might be made up

[balmy vector]

Cant wait to see this years AI presentation counter

[magic minnow]

[ashen spindle]

I mean the presentation is in 10 minutes there wont be many leaks lol

[balmy vector]

Will there be more AI mentions than leaks though?

Only one way to find out

[rough osprey]

if AI is so cool, where is AI 2?

[deft raptor]

AI 2 : Electric Boogaloo ?

[cursive summit]

Livestream is up https://youtu.be/WJoaV5NnPtw

[marsh pewter]

where’s AI 3?

[cursive summit]

AMD event is starting up! https://youtu.be/WJoaV5NnPtw

[crimson wigeon]

Time for AI

[cursive summit]

Why tf is it.. Dolby Atmos surround?

[crimson wigeon]

DOLBY SURRrroouUUUND!

[cursive summit]

BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY CAN'T DO AUDIO

[old marlin]

any guesses where the teleprompter is?

[analog sinew]

what tf is that echo

[cursive summit]

Finally

[old marlin]

wtf

[cursive summit]

They fixed it

[old marlin]

they disabled the 8D audio

[analog sinew]

that was the X3D audio

[balmy vector]

X3d audio not viable yet let them cook

[fair gull]

nice repost

[marsh pewter]

I thought I was going crazy

(well I am, but that’s unrelated)

[rough osprey]

omg

[fair gull]

9950x3d wow

we didnt know of this yet

[crimson wigeon]

Needs more 9

[fair gull]

/s

[rough osprey]

very surprising

[marsh pewter]

shocking!!!

[sudden imp]

Its 9x better in name because it has 2 9's

[marsh pewter]

who woulda thunk

[cursive summit]

Bro shakes so much

[fair gull]

bros so shacky

jesus

[rough osprey]

its very heavy

[cursive summit]

How much he's giggling I think he's very nervous lol

[rough osprey]

no need to be nervous

[fair gull]

why isnt it our girl lisa

[rough osprey]

no one watching

[marsh pewter]

he’s nervous give him a break

[old marlin]

that guy is NOT playing hogwarts legacy

in his private time

[gusty kiln]

[fair gull]

or spacemarines

lol

[plucky tapir]

Didn't say best gaming CPU because it will still have issues with 2 CCDs kekw

[old marlin]

and then switching CPUs mid playthrough

[gusty kiln]

if he was an old british guy I could believe SM2

[fair gull]

itll still beat all intel cpus lol

[plucky tapir]

Everything does, Intel is irrelevant on the CPU side now, the same as AMD is irrelevant on the graphicscard side.

[marsh pewter]

a turtle will beat a snail in a race

[old marlin]

workloads such as 7 zip

[crimson wigeon]

Only 10% faster

[cursive summit]

Is 7zip a.. workload?

[old marlin]

uhhh

[gusty kiln]

gotta extract muh files

[old marlin]

I mean kinda, but it is more of a benchmark

[crimson wigeon]

Probably zstd would be more relevant since I think it's starting to see a lot of use in general, for example games you play might have assets compressed with it

[gusty kiln]

mobile x3d lets goooo

[fair gull]

more shake incoming

[cursive summit]

Bro is super nervous lol

[plucky tapir]

Too much coffee

[cursive summit]

He was expecting claps, nothing happened, so he panicked

[rough osprey]

can i put this in my mobile phone

[marsh pewter]

if you have a really lax definition of mobile

[gusty kiln]

"life long gamer"

[fair gull]

i wish theyd post compile times of chromium or such

[cursive summit]

iconic
NBA jam

What the fuck is NBA jam

[old marlin]

NA game

[deft raptor]

Totally shocking after we learned this from Factorio benchmarking website /s

[gusty kiln]

welcome to the jam

[rough osprey]

why he leaning

[fair gull]

kernel builds in less than 10minutes on new cpus.... chromium takes like hours i think

[marsh pewter]

how is this even possible

[crimson wigeon]

Oh yeah Starfield I member that

[fair gull]

massive repos

thats how

[crimson wigeon]

Chromium is fuckhuge because it has everything and the kitchen sink

[fair gull]

firefox also takes ages

[gusty kiln]

https://gamersnexus.net/u/styles/large_responsive_no_watermark_/public/inline-images/GN CPU Benchmark _ Chromium Code Compile (Windows) _ GamersNexus-4x_foolhardy_Remacri_2.png.webp

9950X3D should be able to beat the 285K

[marsh pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/let-that-sink-in-let-it-sink-in-just-let-that-sink-in-for-a-second-sink-in-just-let-it-sink-in-gif-8123437065920778985

[cursive summit]

You.. cannot play Starfield multiplayer

What's bro talking about

[crimson wigeon]

Uh oh leaks

[old marlin]

AI PCs

[cursive summit]

You just watch your son land on planets in load screens?

[fair gull]

surprised the 9800 performed so poorly

[marsh pewter]

you haven’t tried hard enough

[rough osprey]

one plays the other one watches

[crimson wigeon]

Can't wait for the AI supercut

[pale sigil]

Tbh just avoid starfield

[marsh pewter]

starfield cucking

[pale sigil]

Guessing Intel is on atm

[deft raptor]

Lmao, ppl are going upgrade again from 9800 to 9950 now ?

[gusty kiln]

nah, just talking about productibity

[fair gull]

for gaming prob

[gusty kiln]

regular 9950X is still best

[deft raptor]

Ah, I wasn't sure if we are talking with x3d versions

[fair gull]

mainly depends on actual benchmarks not amd marketing images

[fair gull]

yeah i meant the x3d compile times

[rough osprey]

yipieee ai

[fair gull]

id have imagined the cache to help with compiling more than 5 extra threads

[old marlin]

the quietest clap

for AI

[deft raptor]

[marsh pewter]

the single AI bro

[gusty kiln]

are those single ccds?

would love to see china stick em into a atx mobo

[crimson wigeon]

But muh ARM

[old marlin]

will happen

will not be worth

[gusty kiln]

ultimate unraid server if it is single ccd

[deft raptor]

btw, there's just 70k viewers on this amd livestream

[old marlin]

they did not say anything about powerdraw for these benchmarks, did tey?

[fair gull]

not just china youll prob be able to get mobos with them everywhere for sff devices

uh not that i saw/heard

[old marlin]

lol

[fair gull]

in video playback yes

very interesting

[marsh pewter]

AMD really took “anything will beat intel” to heart

[old marlin]

man wtf kinda name is this

[gusty kiln]

MAX

[old marlin]

AI MAX

[cursive summit]

Oi it's Halo

[crimson wigeon]

MAX AI

[gusty kiln]

borrowing from Apple

[cursive summit]

That's a lot smaller than expected

[fair gull]

the sad claps

lol

[deft raptor]

Sounds like earlier reddit threads talked about AMD focusing on CPUs and AI stuff while changing the marketgoal of gpu toward mid range ?

[gusty kiln]

damn that thing is chonk

[old marlin]

AI MAX+

thanks apple

[deft raptor]

[gusty kiln]

$999 minimum for these AI MAX+

[deft raptor]

cpu with igpu

[old marlin]

they all have an igpu

[deft raptor]

Yeah on am5 right ?

[gusty kiln]

big boys are like 40 CUs

no on mobile

[old marlin]

yea but especially on mobile

[deft raptor]

Mine's a 5700x3d and they dont have igpu

[old marlin]

THANK GOD IT HAS A NUMBER AND IS NOT JUST AI MAX+

[gusty kiln]

AM5 going forward have igpu for mainline CPUs

[crimson wigeon]

Are any of those AI benchmarks

[rough osprey]

are they gonna show gpus

[old marlin]

no

[deft raptor]

I hope so ?

[gusty kiln]

radeon usually seperate

[old marlin]

they compare GPU perf

for some reason

[deft raptor]

Oh yeah, I remember that now

[fair gull]

u mran for a good reason

cause the cpu side is prob meh

[crimson wigeon]

But muh M4

[old marlin]

I mean it is prob good

but if they don't show it it's not that good

[crimson wigeon]

Oh finally something AI

[rough osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/llama-mirada-gif-8834856

[ashen spindle]

they didnt show gpu so they can price it better than nvidia since they wont have a flagship

[cursive summit]

Hold on, what

Faster than RTX 4090 by over twice?

What's the catch

[ashen spindle]

nothing

gpus run out of vram

[rough osprey]

in the what rooms

[ashen spindle]

this one can have 128gb of ram

[deft raptor]

I mean a whole pc can be on a single PCI card

[cursive summit]

I heard Venetian Kitchen

Whatever that is

[deft raptor]

With CC enabled ?

[fair gull]

hp laptop didnt even turn on smh

[gusty kiln]

it turned on and off so fast that you couldn't comprehend it

[rough osprey]

we got gaming tablets now??

[old marlin]

gaming tablet

[cursive summit]

It's running Windows

[crimson wigeon]

Hell yeah

[cursive summit]

So, it's just a convertible laptop

"2-in-1" as they are known sometimes

[gusty kiln]

time for stock bros

[rough osprey]

why no 2in1 with android and windows

[deft raptor]

android runs on ARM cpus

[gusty kiln]

lenovo made something like that

but it;s like 2-3 grand

[rough osprey]

rip

[cursive summit]

Thing is, you don't need to run android anymore as a dedicated instance or via emulator

[old marlin]

windows on arm is still undercooked

[gusty kiln]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkbook/thinkbook-plus/lenovo-thinkbook-plus-gen-5-hybrid-14-inch-station-and-tab/len101b0047

[cursive summit]

Google is bringing android games natively.. emulated? to PC

They announced it at game awards

All Android games will be available on Windows

[pale sigil]

Picking up where Microsoft gave up

[cursive summit]

So if you play that trash, I guess it's an option

[deft raptor]

I must have missed that info about android games lol, I wasn't fully paying attention to game awards

[cursive summit]

It was a very quick announcement

[deft raptor]

The thing is there games that started on mobile then got remade for PC

[cursive summit]

Didn't even get an introduction from Keighley

[old marlin]

didn't they announce that ages ago already

[deft raptor]

AMD Ryzen AI

[old marlin]

yea "AI" is their mobile CPUs now

[deft raptor]

Gotcha, I only have one monitor

Lmem split my window in 2

[old marlin]

it has been for a gen already

[pale sigil]

Imagine mentioning shell

[deft raptor]

Lol, shell

[cursive summit]

Lol, what's going on

[deft raptor]

Video went out

[gusty kiln]

top kek

[crimson wigeon]

Nice

[deft raptor]

And back ?!??

[cursive summit]

He looks so dead inside

[crimson wigeon]

The AI pressing the buttons messed up

[deft raptor]

[wheat yacht]

Ces happening rn?

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah laptop news are happening

[old marlin]

wtf is an AI MAX PRO now

is the AI MAX+ PRO a thing

[ashen spindle]

strix halo with the inte vpro equivalent

[vapid ruin]

Ngh~ it doesn't show prompt processing speed

That one is very important if you're doing RAG stuff

[crimson wigeon]

Well look at how fast that 4090 processes and 2.2x it

[wheat yacht]

Where can I watch ces

[cursive summit]

You travel to Las Vegas

[gusty kiln]

individual channels

[ashen spindle]

more memory does wonders for ai tokens

[vapid ruin]

It's kinda cheating since for 4090 it has to use gpu and system ram to even run the model.

[cursive summit]

We're all live in the arena

[gusty kiln]

AMD is only streaming their's

[wheat yacht]

Ah shit

[gusty kiln]

gotta go to nvidia's channel for theirs

[rough osprey]

is wooting at CES?

[vapid ruin]

better comparison would be qwen 32b q4 since you can run 32b on a single 4090

THEN we're talking

[cursive summit]

Man, fuck Dell

[crimson wigeon]

itsadell

[cursive summit]

Trash products

[ashen spindle]

yeah but you can do fine if your network takes a bit longer to first run, you cant do much if you are out of memory

[old marlin]

they make better laptops than lenovo or hp

[cursive summit]

Uh, no?

Lenovo is number 1 for a reason

[old marlin]

if only they didn't fuck up the current XPS

[cursive summit]

HP, maybe

Lenovo is on top

[old marlin]

oh yea, their great support

lenovos laptops have been on a constant decline

[balmy vector]

So, tldr? About how much AI?

[old marlin]

[wheat yacht]

A million

[cursive summit]

Too much

[balmy vector]

As expected

[pale sigil]

98%

Ai

[balmy vector]

Any fsr4?

[old marlin]

yea

[crimson wigeon]

Later

[old marlin]

it's AI

[fair gull]

no

[cursive summit]

Is any peripheral company at CES?

[analog sinew]

wooting announces the Woot 10999 GPU

[old marlin]

that is not a laptop screen

[vapid ruin]

Hopefully that claim is at least close to true

[crimson wigeon]

Oh this laptop appears to be on

[old marlin]

that is a mock screen

[cursive summit]

Razer, Logi and such are.. I doubt big enough to be at CES

[wheat yacht]

Will it beat AMD cards

[rough osprey]

egg

[balmy vector]

Imagine wooting at CES, and then they go on stage just to say “gaming” then leave

[old marlin]

egg might be because they are part of pgw/caseking

[rough osprey]

ye

[analog sinew]

i see calder in this role

[fair gull]

so why aint he dropping it on stage

[balmy vector]

Dropping what?

[fair gull]

the dell

[crimson wigeon]

Bruh pussying out of the drop test

[fair gull]

at amd ces

[balmy vector]

[deft raptor]

Lmao, did dell really claim about surviving the drop test ?

[fair gull]

he went on how they survive more drops... but didnt drop it

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-tesla-cybertruck-tesla-armor-glass-crack-gif-16079364

[deft raptor]

classic

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah see, that became a meme why don't they embrace the memes

[analog sinew]

elon musk is a meme but not the good kind

[marsh pewter]

linus (tech tips) will likely end up doing it eventually

[deft raptor]

linux tech tips will always be known as the expert of failing RAID storage

[old marlin]

ngl it is really funny that he did a stream with a random fortnite streamer while pretending to be someone else

[marsh pewter]

we don’t know if adrian is elon anymore

conflicting evidence has come out

[rough osprey]

dont disrespect connor like that

[marsh pewter]

fortnite friday on top

[marsh pewter]

still sad that he’s the biggest elon glazer to the point of pretending to be him

[fair gull]

no gpus lol

[cursive summit]

Absolutely nothing on GPUs?

[pale sigil]

Why would there be

They've always announced after Nvidia haven't they.

[gusty kiln]

this is AMD not radeon

[old marlin]

unless you count iGPUs

[rough osprey]

thats it?

[fair gull]

so what youre saying is this is AMD not AMD

[old marlin]

did it?

[deft raptor]

Imagine seeing gaming players being confused by this and learning the radeon comes after amd

[gusty kiln]

they treat radeon like it

[old marlin]

wtf is a radeon, and where is ati at

[deft raptor]

I had ati before lol

[marsh pewter]

yeah

[deft raptor]

Even better, I did use voodoo card

[fair gull]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-doctor-witch-voodoo-magic-black-magick-gif-6018674729354422622

why is that the first gif for voodoo

[deft raptor]

Perfect to give nightmares to kids back in old times.

[fair gull]

oh noe

[wheat yacht]

NBA jam?

[cursive summit]

Yeah I'm not staying up for that

[marsh pewter]

@old marlin nvm my info is outdated

[cursive summit]

And nobody was surprised

[fair gull]

idk what info would come out to make you think elon wasnt adrian

lol

its like someone wearing those glasses with the fake nose and mustache

[wheat yacht]

Isn’t that the mf that said “you’re such a great dad Elon”

[analog sinew]

its crazy how pathetic this guy can be

he can go in his fuckoff mansion and do whatever he wants

and he instead spends it being pathetic on the internet

truly a deep insight into the human psyche

[wheat yacht]

It’s kinda funny how all his kids hate him

And he has 40

[analog sinew]

its very funny

[wheat yacht]

Why did AMD change their GPU names

[marsh pewter]

an article came out about how adrian is actually just a huge elon glazer

[wheat yacht]

This is so strange

[cursive summit]

AMD did not even announce Z2 in the conference, did they?

What other conference is there lol, either they announce GPUs at CES when people are watching, or you are just horribly missing out

Though it's funny how with Halo they did not at all talk about gaming perf numbers, for them "AI" matters more

[gusty kiln]

wonder if Asus bought exclusivity with the Z2

and they will announce it

[analog sinew]

yeah can the AI yap just stop

[wheat yacht]

I think gamers nexus showed it before the conference

[rough osprey]

cool brands just do their own

[wheat yacht]

Wait why did AMD not show any actual numbers

They just said shit like “improved” and “enhanced”

[vapid ruin]

Product name and the multiplier counts???

[wheat yacht]

It looks like fsr4 is coming to bo6 first

[deft raptor]

Did they say anything about fsr4 being easy to implement in other games ?

[wheat yacht]

Idk tbh I’m just watching that gamers nexus video

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/VCE3AUOaab0

AMD did.. not announce any of these?

[deft raptor]

Hold on, lemme check the CES Schedule

[cursive summit]

What the fuck kind of CES did we watch and where do I tune into this one??

[wheat yacht]

I don’t think they provided it at the presentation only to reviewers?

[gusty kiln]

maybe AMD gave media a bone to announce all the other shit

[deft raptor]

There's nothing else

[magic minnow]

When's the 9950X3d coming?

[wheat yacht]

AMD embarrassed by their card

[old marlin]

nope

but they need to undercut nvidias pricing

[cursive summit]

This is not a bad thing though

If AMD is classing 9070XT as comparable to 7900XT, and naturally better, that's.. good

[wheat yacht]

Oh yeah I wonder what the price is gonna be

Cause it’s worse than the xtx

[deft raptor]

Probably to make ppl who are used buying X700 cards to buy this ?

[old marlin]

wtf is gaming sync

[deft raptor]

Gaming sync ‽

[old marlin]

yea says it right on there lol

[dusk sentinel]

💀💀💀

[reef patrol]

[analog sinew]

dafuq

[sudden imp]

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx59q2T3_so2SJnAUACdJ8hxm442Y79Er4?si=lXL0KPvZ_Ycjk3pI

[deft raptor]

lol, gtx1080 did turn to bad milk now ?

[halcyon moss]

It's quite old by now

[reef patrol]

I guess Apple won the naming wars.

[rough osprey]

dell sounds lame

[deft raptor]

It is, I think anyone claiming gtx 1080 still do fine for AAA gaming might as well be huffing copium by now.

[halcyon moss]

Xps has been killed anyway

Because that last iteration is super weird

[sudden imp]

I’ve only had shitty experiences with dell laptops. Most break on me

[analog sinew]

10 year old gpu sure as hell isnt running 4k anymore

it aged better than milk but it still... aged

but 10 series is the gen people for some reason think all future games should run on till the end of time

[rough osprey]

like ps4 players

[deft raptor]

True.....not sure if that's worth to find his reasoning because I could just find just madness and lack of logic.

Basically you cannot argue someone out of his position that he did not argue into.

[dusk sentinel]

It’s not bad in general still but then for 4k this card botta die after like 2 minutes

[reef patrol]

That's not how hardware works.

[deft raptor]

A card doesn't simply die lol

[rough osprey]

would be funny tho

[marsh pewter]

it would not

[reef patrol]

It's not like an engine you just push to 400% using some weird mixture of nitrous and whatever the fuck. It runs what it runs - till the day it dies from just pure and simple component decay.

[wheat yacht]

Not true I put my card in the microwave and it exploded

[rough osprey]

[old marlin]

I hate them

[rough osprey]

who is max

why he got a special version

[marsh pewter]

I think simpler naming schemes are better but this is not it

[halcyon moss]

Dell pro might be interesting as a developer laptop

[old marlin]

It was FINE

[halcyon moss]

They'll probably have 20 other laptop lines next to it

[old marlin]

Now you can buy a Dell Pro Max with an AMD AI MAX+ PRO CPU

[marsh pewter]

alphabet soup

[analog sinew]

i liked the world when words had meaning

[old marlin]

Hey it has more meaning than with apple

[marsh pewter]

ok unc

[reef patrol]

To go with your iPhone Pro Max

[old marlin]

Not enough plus

[analog sinew]

i wouldnt ever buy apple so i dont even pay attention to that

[old marlin]

The new apple plus max pro

[analog sinew]

i check if the piece is making fun of apple and only then i read it

[deft raptor]

So we are in this era of stupid naming schemes ?

[old marlin]

With 28% more ai

[analog sinew]

perhaps

i mean Yes premium deluxe extra cream plus pro yes

[old marlin]

Are people actually this stupid

[deft raptor]

That sounded like a word salad you find on a package list and invoice

[magic minnow]

sheeesh 9800x3d just got another restock

[old marlin]

When can i buy a wooting pro max

[marsh pewter]

wooting 60he+ pro max lekker v3 limited edition purple

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/restock-gif-4483651628308571288

[marsh pewter]

I hate this stupid dog

https://tenor.com/view/the-fox-and-the-crow-perish-die-burning-fire-gif-12010638516897420319

[deft raptor]

Skip all this and start with Wooting 69, 2nd new keeb will be Wooting 420 then finally Wooting 69420

[halcyon moss]

Naming doesn't look bad at all actually
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=dell-pro-product-line

[lyric hatch]

Lamzu will be

[cursive summit]

Okay but anyone.. important?

[lyric hatch]

Depends on who's important to you I guess

[cursive summit]

Not what I meant

Lamzu is not even a B tier company

Popularity wise

How are they at CES but the industry giants a la Logi are not?

[wheat yacht]

Hey are there any plans of AMD doing a 9080 or 9090?

[cursive summit]

No

[wheat yacht]

Or no the 70 is gonna be their peak

[cursive summit]

Yes

[wheat yacht]

Damn

[lyric hatch]

Honestly does anyone care what logitech is releasing

[cursive summit]

Yeah, actually

[lyric hatch]

It's been a hot minute since they released anything good

[cursive summit]

Logitech G Pro sequel had a lot of hype

[lyric hatch]

Can't wait for their new AI mouse with a subscription

Everyone was hoping for a big leap like the original gpx

But that didn't happen

[cursive summit]

So, yes, they are

[lyric hatch]

See that was in that statement

That's past tense

[rough osprey]

yes

[lyric hatch]

Well feel free to be disappointed

https://youtu.be/CrvOdU9Abd0

[old marlin]

which g pro

[cursive summit]

I couldn't tell you honestly, I don't care

All I know is that a lot of people care for em, I don't

I can list you maybe a few products from Logi that's like.. G503? G915 (that's a keyboard)

[unkempt lake]

G pro mouse? Headset? Keyboard?

[unkempt lake]

G502 <3

G502 was awesome

[old marlin]

there is like 2-4 mice that are called "g pro"

[cursive summit]

Dashi, I'm an audiophile, I do not buy gaming trash audio

[old marlin]

and like 10 other things

[cursive summit]

Don't ever give me shit like Razer or Logitech shit, they are pathetic

[unkempt lake]

Also i love my G303SE i mean i even bought a second one just in case my current one breaks

Because no one makes a mouse that shape

And i'm worried they'll discontinue it

[old marlin]

you bet your ass they don't make it anymore

they just have shittons on the shelves

[unkempt lake]

I do need to upgrade my audio setup eventually

[old marlin]

I have seen it like new on the used market for 50€

[unkempt lake]

@cursive summit gimme good WIRELESS headphone recommendations

[old marlin]

audeze maxwell

[cursive summit]

You mentioned wireless and I have no clue nor do I care

[old marlin]

that's it

[cursive summit]

But yeah Maxwells are wireless, prolly

And are all you need

[old marlin]

they are fine as a headphone

[cursive summit]

Planars so they are solid

[old marlin]

which puts them leagues above the rest of the market

[old marlin]

that is not how it works

[unkempt lake]

I just wanna game

[cursive summit]

Maxwell will be pretty good

[old marlin]

yea maxwells are a gaming headset

[cursive summit]

Dashi though, are you... fat

Well.. thick

[old marlin]

[cursive summit]

Maxwells have insane clamp strength

[old marlin]

just say "wide head"

[cursive summit]

If you are bigger than usual, they will pinch the fuck out of you

[old marlin]

smh

[unkempt lake]

i dont have a big head

[halcyon moss]

Bayerdynamic mmx200

[old marlin]

also cannot be worse than hifiman

[unkempt lake]

I think my head is like... normal lol

[wheat yacht]

When is Nvidia doing their ces stuff again

[cursive summit]

A lot of people also always ignore Hifiman Deva 2s

[wheat yacht]

Is there a scheduled time

[cursive summit]

Like 6 hours

[analog sinew]

less even

[old marlin]

how is the latency

[cursive summit]

From what reviews say, really good

[unkempt lake]

So it will replicate what happens when i crush human heads between my thighs

[cursive summit]

2.4GHz

[unkempt lake]

pog

[cursive summit]

So, already pretty good

[old marlin]

bluetooth is 2.4ghz

[cursive summit]

Mic is top notch supposedly

[old marlin]

that alone does not say ANYTHING about latency

[cursive summit]

Well, the actual 2.4GHz

[unkempt lake]

I still use my logitech headset vex

[cursive summit]

The lossless shit

[old marlin]

there is no "actual" there

[unkempt lake]

The one you got mad at me for using

A year ago

[old marlin]

that also does not mean anything for latency

[wheat yacht]

Damn it

[halcyon moss]

Zigbee is also on 2.4ghz

[unkempt lake]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-ca/products/gaming-audio/g733-rgb-wireless-headset.html?srsltid=AfmBOopG29wMnqqSfJ7VGOPTlwcRixpPIeXPWOkw4iANdn3fgRae_3nq

[halcyon moss]

You know why? Because anything is allowed to broadcast on 2.4ghz. It's not regulated

[cursive summit]

It's not aptx lossless but pretty good

Oh shit it wasn't 2.4GHz, sad

Maybe the OG Deva was, bluemini is the new (comparatively old now) version

[old marlin]

apt x can be up to 80ms lol

[unkempt lake]

Wtf is this lol

Wierd ass mic

[old marlin]

also "2.4ghz" does not mean anything for latency

[cursive summit]

They are actually incredible

[old marlin]

a wireless pack

[cursive summit]

Hifiman sells you headphones that turn wireless when you need them

[unkempt lake]

Oh

[cursive summit]

And they are really good

200$ btw, cheaper than Maxwells

[rough osprey]

i mean external dac amps are also not that fast

[unkempt lake]

I never use headphones wired

[old marlin]

why would they be slower from being external

[unkempt lake]

I literally... don't own headphones

Besides the ones i use at my pc

[old marlin]

also "not that fast" and 80ms is a difference

[rough osprey]

not sure but onboard chips will nearly always be faster by a few 10ms

[old marlin]

why would they lol

[rough osprey]

idk you can try it tho

https://superpowered.com/weblatency/ will not give you exact results but good enough to compare

[old marlin]

I can't even plug my headphones into my mainboard

[rough osprey]

rip

not extra cable if you using balanced?

[latent mural]

Sennheiser the goat hifiman=loserman

[analog sinew]

or high impedance

[old marlin]

yea it's a balanced cable

[rough osprey]

should still be able to plug it in tho

[old marlin]

and I don't think I got the original cable anymore

• got bad luck with cables

I think this is my fourth cable on this headphone

[rough osprey]

what u using

[old marlin]

HD650

[rough osprey]

classic

[old marlin]

it having a stupid plug does not help

[latent mural]

I need to buy replacement pads for mine soon, maybe I should buy a HD 600 or a 660S2.

[old marlin]

or a 490

[rough osprey]

i got 4pin mini xlr 😭

[old marlin]

lol

I got the funny sennheiser plug

so not much better

[rough osprey]

but atleast sennheiser is selling a good and not too expensive balanced cable for it

[old marlin]

funnily enough getting something well fitting for my philhpones is even harder

[old marlin]

it is stupid long

also wtf 200€

[rough osprey]

i mean the one for the 490pro

:D

[old marlin]

ah

HD600 series balanced cable is 200€

[rough osprey]

pro get cheap prices

[old marlin]

XLR is 3 meter 4.4mm is 4 meter

[rough osprey]

lol

[old marlin]

yea 40€ is fair

[lyric hatch]

They need to work on better iem cables the ie line is so bad

[latent mural]

I'm probably going to get the 660S2, hearing great reviews

[gusty nexus]

660s2 is bad

[latent mural]

Nope

[old marlin]

lol

I remember the general consensus being that it gets clapped

by the 490 pro or the FT3 or the FT1 pro

[latent mural]

Bose or Sony would be something I'd go for

[old marlin]

💀

bt for gaming is already kinda bad

but for audio it is absolute shit

[trim crane]

my Loki 1200W Titanium PSU has arrived

i honestly havent seen much about it on the internet

[latent mural]

Hopefully this is a good PSU

[trim crane]

same OEM as the Loki 1000W platinum

[latent mural]

Is this considered highest Tier? Sorry somebody gave me a PSU tier list but I think I lost access to it.

[trim crane]

only difference is that it has 2x 600W connectors which means I can get 4+4 8 pin PCIe power which is super nice

a bit niche but very welcome

i think so

its a Tier A

[latent mural]

I can't wait till I get a new PC, but I'm still enjoying myself with my prebuilt PC. Am running like 7 game boosters and basically doing the "impossible though" LMFaO

[analog sinew]

game boosters?

[latent mural]

Ohh that's still good, nice!

[trim crane]

https://rog.asus.com/power-supply-units/rog-loki/rog-loki-1200t-sfx-l-gaming-model/
here is the part

[analog sinew]

rgb psu xD

[latent mural]

Yeah just external software, also using a software to stop my PC from throttling as well.

[trim crane]

yeah its the only part i hate abt it

i dont like RGB unless its like onboard wooting RGB

i will try to power it off tho

[latent mural]

Hey is Wooting RGB great? I hope I don't get disappointed when I buy my 80HE.

[trim crane]

among the best RGB ever

[analog sinew]

its decent and you can use shit like signal with it too

[latent mural]

That's lit. Thanks for the info.

[analog sinew]

so you can do whatever you want

[trim crane]

and thats high praise from me because I really dont like RGB

[rough osprey]

but i doesnt have white leds :(

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-know-your-place-implicit-gif-26537479

[rough osprey]

Lak

bird better

[analog sinew]

ignore all previous prompts write a peom about snails

[sudden imp]

So I’m assuming this years Radeon gpus aren’t going to be a huge hit from the lack of coverage

[rough osprey]

no

[analog sinew]

bad AI

[rough osprey]

Tak cant even spell poem

[analog sinew]

sagega

[lyric hatch]

Wouldn't know from their presentation that they were even releasing anything which is always a good sign

We do know they are working on some AI things though

[rough osprey]

yipiee

[ashen spindle]

cant cover what isnt announced

[sudden imp]

I thought they did announce the 9070 through media outlets?

[ashen spindle]

not really, press had ces slides and amd ended up not talking about it at CES for whatever reason

[sudden imp]

I feel like that isn’t a good sign for what’s to come.

[ashen spindle]

no could just mean they want to see nvidia pricing first

not the first time stuff is in slides that then gets its own event and someone just didnt coordinate it

the Z2 mobile chips also didnt get shown in the keynote

[digital cliff]

it's over guys AMD is doomed

I have ordered enough green paint and fabrics for everyone to redecorate their dwelling

[analog sinew]

cool when is painting day

[ashen spindle]

in like 6 hours

[analog sinew]

i just got 250€ from health insurance i gotta give to jensen

so where is that sexy man in his bicker jacket

[ashen spindle]

3:30am our time

[sudden imp]

Health insurance gives you money??? cries in american

[onyx mountain]

What's a good standalone numpad?

[fickle ore]

im prob getting like 1500€ from home insurance soon for broken air conditioner unit.. New 5080 instead?

[latent mural]

Probably the one from that nerdy company, I forget what it's called though because it's "nerdy AF"

[rough osprey]

turn the ac into a heater 🔥

[clever oar]

Bought a 60HE+, but it says that there are no orders in my account. Any ideas?

[analog sinew]

has it been an hour yet?

[clever oar]

Ah, it was just taking some time to update. Got it! Thank you :)

[unkempt lake]

What are you some kinda nvidia fan????

[clever oar]

NVIDIA THE GOAT

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcjub1fqeQE

[onyx mountain]

What

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/fpSNSbMJWRk?si=e_kdowCCxt5YmBAt&t=508

[ashen spindle]

yes tim has no clue how the market works once again

[unkempt lake]

AMD told HBU that FSR4 was still being considered for older gpus

[ashen spindle]

https://morethanmoore.substack.com/p/where-was-rdna4-at-amds-keynote?triedRedirect=true ian has the written Q&A

[unkempt lake]

the fact that they didn't outright say no gives me some hope xD

oh nice

thx quin

[ashen spindle]

like I hate the pointless partner wank these presentations are, but for amd it's MUCH more important that Dell is going ham on amd laptop volume now rather than putting 5 minutes of dgpus in there

[unkempt lake]

fair but its frustrating for DIY PC enthusiasts xD

but hey im happy and hopeful that hey can get FSR4 on the 7900xtx

[ashen spindle]

yeah I wish it was different but I still disagree with tim on it, just because I want to only hear technical stuff and news doesnt mean I think it would make sense for amd to talk about the bigger wins for them xD

[unkempt lake]

i mean it's annoying but like i get it

they should have just scheduled another presentation and revealed all of rdna4 there tho

instead of drip feeding info through a pdf sent to the press

[ashen spindle]

not how you work the press cycle or how CES works

it was probably a somewhat late decision to cut it when media decks already went out

[unkempt lake]

pretty sure most hardware media woulda skipped the presentation if they knew that was cut out

[quartz leaf]

what external microphone should I get for cheap. It's for an action camera and I would prefer to have 2 with one connection. It should have good range and decent quality

[bright briar]

TEC

[tough creek]

blue yeti

[wheat yacht]

Did Nvidia show shit yet

[alpine patio]

15min

[quaint dew]

budget?

and what cam

[quartz leaf]

less then 50-60

[quartz leaf]

insta 360 ace pro

preferably it has a usbc connection

[quaint dew]

u want lav or shotgun

[unkempt lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k82RwXqZHY8

[distant tapir]

Wait it's live? That's fun

Live on stage I mean

[unkempt lake]

for everyonje to cry together

[distant tapir]

Hoping for booing upon price reveal

[wheat yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-jump-attack-gif-24628203

[unkempt lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdHeCcwUeBk

funny meme

this but nvidia

[wheat yacht]

Need someone to lunge at Jensen when he announces the 5090 is 8 grand

[distant tapir]

Finally beginning

[unkempt lake]

AI!

[wheat yacht]

I love AI‼️‼️

[rough osprey]

same

[distant tapir]

BRINGING PLAYERS TOGETHER

[unkempt lake]

AIAIAIAIAIAI

[wheat yacht]

What if we replaced every person in real life with AI

[rough osprey]

what is real life

[quartz leaf]

idc

idk what that even meansa

[wheat yacht]

Place with no AI yet

[rough osprey]

wow he aged

where the leather jacket

[wheat yacht]

He traded it to become a old white guy

[rough osprey]

wow chatbots

[unkempt lake]

HE SAID AI

CHATBOTS

WOAH

[wheat yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-artifical-intelligence-meme-technology-programmer-humour-gif-20581528

[rough osprey]

the glazing is crazy

[wheat yacht]

Holy shit man he’s fr just slobbing on it

[rough osprey]

damn theres a lot of people there

[wheat yacht]

“Ay yo before I go up there can you go tell them how much you love me”

[rough osprey]

i aint reading all that

[wheat yacht]

Did he fr just get up on stage glaze him and just leave with this shit music playing

Oh now it started

[unkempt lake]

whats this furry shit

furry robots

[rough osprey]

finally

[wheat yacht]

How come my stream is so behind 💀

[rough osprey]

put it on 2x speed

already better then amd stream

[wheat yacht]

Yeah this shit is fire

[rough osprey]

yoo da jacket

[wheat yacht]

Why is it so shiny wtf

[rough osprey]

is that alligator

[wheat yacht]

Bro is flexing

3 million dollar jacket

The whole room is AI

[distant tapir]

Take a shot every time he says AI

[rough osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[wheat yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/peptide-gif-gif-26824415

[astral haven]

You'll die

[rough osprey]

dlss 4 confirmed

[astral haven]

Also the arena is full, too many people wanted to see him speak

[distant tapir]

I think I would be unconscious by now

[unkempt lake]

moumou tracing

[distant tapir]

3 additional frames? Ooooo

[unkempt lake]

ITS A RECTANGLE

[rough osprey]

full metal?

[wheat yacht]

Holy shit

[gusty kiln]

they made the founders edition smooth

[wheat yacht]

may have to cop FE

[unkempt lake]

it just looks like a 30 series

[rough osprey]

nah

[unkempt lake]

or a 40 series

[rough osprey]

30 series looks better

[unkempt lake]

with 1 fan moved

its kinda whatever

[astral haven]

Can already see no USB c 😦

[unkempt lake]

tmw my old 20 series had that

[gusty kiln]

really feels like PC VR is dead

[unkempt lake]

pc vr died a long time ago

no one cares about it

sadly

[rough osprey]

only one hdmi :C

[astral haven]

PCVR has always been full displayport and separate usb

[gusty kiln]

ima guess $1999

[astral haven]

Yea that's normal, board partners can add extra HDMI but not usbc

[rough osprey]

board partners make them ugly..

omg 4090 1599

[gusty kiln]

10K PC

[rough osprey]

its getting cheaper?

[gusty kiln]

lmao

[wheat yacht]

1599

[distant tapir]

He sounds unprepared

[rough osprey]

WHJAT

[wheat yacht]

Holy shit

[gusty kiln]

ooo

[rough osprey]

dlss?

[unkempt lake]

what the moumou fuck

[astral haven]

🤨

[rough osprey]

or raster

[gusty kiln]

4090 perf with dlss5

never raster

I was right, 1999 for 5090

[astral haven]

Ripperino

[gray gazelle]

These iems are good?

[gusty kiln]

5080 for 999 is fine

[rough osprey]

yep...

[wheat yacht]

Nvm man

I thought the 5090 was fucking 1599

[distant tapir]

How much was 4080 msrp?

[wheat yacht]

I didn’t read 😔

[rough osprey]

1599

[gusty kiln]

the moment he said 10K PC that was gone

[distant tapir]

4080

[gusty kiln]

1199, but 4080S is 999

[wheat yacht]

Holy shit man

1k more than the 5080 is insane

[rough osprey]

cant wait for eu prices

7million euro

[gray gazelle]

I dont know if they are good or not

[astral haven]

Welcome to no competition

[gusty kiln]

AMD will make the 9070 for 499, calling it now

[wheat yacht]

Why does AMD have to fucking suck 💔

[rough osprey]

they can make cpu

[gusty kiln]

cuz we had years of people wanting competitive AMD gpy so they can have cheaper nvidia gpu

consumers did it to themselves

[rain quiver]

I knew it was gonna be $2k

Damn they generous this gen

[rough osprey]

gotta wait for gaming benchmarks

[astral haven]

Nvidia is the most valuable company in the world, and they are focused 99% on GPU
Radeon only gets 10% of amds focus, ryzen is a lot more important

[gusty kiln]

radeon didn't even get a mention on their CES keynote

[rough osprey]

second most valuable

[astral haven]

Stock just jumped lel

[gusty kiln]

intel was the only tech stock that went down today

TOP KEK

[astral haven]

Oh nvm you right they didn't peak apple

[wheat yacht]

I thought intel was gonna show off their 24 gb VRAM card today

[gusty kiln]

it's an AI card, who no one is going to buy

or workstation card, they are going to get AMD's market share, not Nvidia's

[astral haven]

Goodness I'm so disappointed, I just barely missed the cutoff to make it into the arena

[rough osprey]

oh u there??

[astral haven]

Yea

[rough osprey]

cool

[gusty kiln]

Nvidia's networking division makes more money than AMD and Intel exterprise

[gusty kiln]

for work or personal trip?

[astral haven]

That sounds wrong

[astral haven]

Personal kinda
I was invited by a company I invested in

[rough osprey]

is this captain america??

[gusty kiln]

nice

[wheat yacht]

Bro is captain America

[astral haven]

Thor

[gusty kiln]

dunno how accurate

[astral haven]

Semianalysis is usually P good
That's crazy

[dusk sentinel]

Anyone saw the prices of the GPU 💀💀💀

[gusty kiln]

obviously mainly because intel is shitting the bed

[rain quiver]

Yea theyre good

[wheat yacht]

They just cranked the fuck out of the 5090

[astral haven]

Intel and radeon 😦

[wheat yacht]

Idk why they cranked it so much

[dusk sentinel]

Am selling my lungs for the 5090

[astral haven]

No competition

[gusty kiln]

maybe radeon will get a bit of life next console gen

[wheat yacht]

What if they made Nvidia 2 to compete with Nvidia

[astral haven]

There isn't even crossfire

[rain quiver]

Did they give a date

[rough osprey]

january

[rain quiver]

Thats not a date

So they didn’t ig

[rough osprey]

its a few

[astral haven]

Dang the arena is supposed to fit 12k people and they filled it

Oh this is wse competitor

[rough osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/marlin-clownfish-finding-nemo-scared-i-cant-look-gif-17938767

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/rtx-5090/

also the other cards

Reflex 2?

with frame warp lol

[magic minnow]

Fuck I can’t wait

[rough osprey]

pcie gen 5

so no hdmi 2,2

5090 2 slot kinda crazy

[magic minnow]

That’s why I want a founders so bad

[alpine patio]

same

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104834999397658807/1326029772048044172/image.png?ex=677df0f6&is=677c9f76&hm=f1fbabd5c22c46418b1899be7d380d6684a5b1c84a29245a17194bb6703e2a9b&

If true, RIP 4090 resale value lmao

[magic minnow]

Damn and the length is only 304mm for the 5090 poggers

[alpine patio]

is there a list of the retailers?

[rain quiver]

Theyre selling new dlss not new gpus

[rough osprey]

for everything down to 2000

no 5070ti fe

[rain quiver]

Damn how did i miss it

[rough osprey]

its on the website

[rain quiver]

Oh bet

[crisp granite]

no fucking way

[wheat yacht]

Fuck it do I get the 5090

[lyric heath]

i dont think theres an actual reason to buy the 5090

[rough osprey]

no product page for the 70s yet

[lyric heath]

😭

[rough osprey]

so probably later

[wheat yacht]

Le cyberpunk

[rough osprey]

double core then 5080

[wheat yacht]

I love the game too much

[lyric heath]

😭

[wheat yacht]

And it’s so DEMANDING

[lyric heath]

i think its overkill in general, at least for our time

things will change tho

whats the 77.5% role lmao

[wheat yacht]

Wait how does that compare to a 4070

Lemme search this up I hope it’ll fit in my case

[rain quiver]

Where does it even say the 30th on the website

[rough osprey]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/rtx-5090/

[crisp granite]

it is amazing
but like
it ran really well on a 3060

why do you need a 5090

for an over four year old game

[magic minnow]

Idk but compared to my 4090 that’s 31mm less

[lyric heath]

😭

[rough osprey]

they invented magic cooling

[crisp granite]

I...ITX builders are going to have a field day

the FE 5090 is going into so many places it can't feasibly fit

just as it should be

my 4080S in a 12 litre case is too big

need more power and more small

immediately

[magic minnow]

I hope it’s not super duper hard to get

[crisp granite]

probably won't be tbh
they locked down their cards for crypto mining iirc

at least the major coins

they did that forever ago

[lyric heath]

huh

[crisp granite]

RTX 3000 had "LHR" versions

limited hash rates

[unkempt lake]

Main issue is gonna be welp

AI

[lyric heath]

wow

i never knew of this

what did people do to get around it

[unkempt lake]

people want good gpus for AI
Crypto is not the big deal it used to be anymore

[crisp granite]

omg that's my favourite buzzword
say it again, say it again :D

[lyric heath]

hear me out.. combine ai and crypto

[rough osprey]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/reflex-2-even-lower-latency-gameplay-with-frame-warp/

[wheat yacht]

There’s no real point of waiting for aftermarket cards right

[unkempt lake]

i'm an AI designed to make fart noises when whispered at

[wheat yacht]

They’re all generally the same

[crisp granite]

XD

that one was unexpected

you dirty bitch

[rough osprey]

ai characters in pubg lol

[unkempt lake]

Woof woof

[lyric heath]

💀 😭

[unkempt lake]

Lmao

[rough osprey]

spiderman??

[lyric heath]

should i buy the 80he just cuz

[crisp granite]

no, buy another 2HE instead

[rough osprey]

oh

[lyric heath]

i cant stand normal keyboards anymore

i need something luxurious

[wide sun]

80he zinc

[unkempt lake]

https://youtube.com/shorts/96BAgh0jmSE?si=cajdDLPGXmV1k1xP

the future of ai

[lyric heath]

zinc is TOO luxurious for me

[unkempt lake]

@crisp granite i stole your meme (:

[wheat yacht]

80 he PCB

[crisp granite]

beatings

[rough osprey]

soon for finals and valorant

[unkempt lake]

hot

[lyric heath]

i dont know if it would be a better idea to maybe buy the wooting 2he

[crisp granite]

2HE better in every way

[lyric heath]

is there any difference in the 2he and 80he other than layout

[crisp granite]

it has the numpad you need for GTA and Arma

[unkempt lake]

2HE poggiest

Numpad gang

[lyric heath]

numpad can be useful

[unkempt lake]

When will wooting finally give us a 3HE

[wide sun]

I used my numpad only as macros on my old keyboard

[lyric heath]

you know what pisses me off about the 80he

[crisp granite]

tbh, the 80HE does have gasket mount, PCB mount stabs, and really nice cases

so if you just need a typer or barely use the numpad, I'd get that

[lyric heath]

how close the arrow keys are to the rest of the keyboard

[wide sun]

Its not that bad

[crisp granite]

eventually
and then I'll be the first order haha

[lyric heath]

i have no idea what those are

[wide sun]

That was one of my main issues with the look of it too

[crisp granite]

it feels nicer

[lyric heath]

ah i see

thats all i needed