🔌│tech

[bright briar]

good choice

you go with asus or?

[balmy vector]

Mhm asus

[bright briar]

i know lg and asus has woled

[analog sinew]

when would you buy

[unkempt lake]

https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813162130 @bright briar

[balmy vector]

Returned my old for credit and paid less for the asus compared to my initial oled

For a new instead of open box

[astral haven]

when theres a local holiday?

[bright briar]

nice how many hz you gets?

[bright briar]

that micro though

[balmy vector]

240 cuz that’s perfectly fine for me

[bright briar]

[bright briar]

oohh you bought their newer ones

[unkempt lake]

Still has everything you need

And for the price it's pog

[bright briar]

i was looking at that look mango

[bright briar]

it is it is

[balmy vector]

Twas a very nice price here in the merica

[bright briar]

yeah

i wish the 480hz was 999.99 in canada but its like 1.4k💀

and sold out everywhere. Who's paying that much in cad

[balmy vector]

Thats bruutal

[bright briar]

it is

this country went to shit when the poutine didnt taste good anymore and my double double tasted like luke warm water

[unkempt lake]

I paid 1.3k for my monitor

:3

[bright briar]

yeah but you got an imax monitor

[balmy vector]

I love how this oled is so much brighter than my previous

[unkempt lake]

Worth it

[bright briar]

this price is for 27inch 480hz 1440p

[unkempt lake]

Borinnggggt

[bright briar]

3080 12gb

im also giving my current build to my little cousin

believe me i wouldnt upgrade my current build if i didnt love my family

because this is breaking my wallet

9800x3d

i have 5700x rn

but upgrading within the week

[balmy vector]

Still got me 9900k in the drawer

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-oh-yeah-that-is-what-i-am-talking-about-nodding-god-of-war-gif-15056722

[balmy vector]

For whenever i feel like using it

Thats why i keep it

[magic minnow]

Sold it to my Canadian friend for 100$ usd

[marsh glade]

I read that but didn't read "it to"

Was confused

[balmy vector]

Its so pretty

[pale sigil]

Gibbi

[balmy vector]

[magic minnow]

I can’t see the little deer statue :c

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-pokemon-squirtle-happy-content-gif-10841239

[hoary jackal]

Donate it to charity

Imagine poor kids in Africa without food and water

😞

The pc can wait

[bright briar]

"MR BeAsTTT !!!!"

[analog sinew]

Mr Yeast

[hoary jackal]

He’s Mr least

[leaden kiln]

did i cook
killed logitech grips
i should get some white griptape ☠️

[balmy vector]

I pray your mouse wont get crusty

Gotta retain as much blue as possible for miku

[hoary jackal]

Wtf is ts bro

[leaden kiln]

can just clean with usonic cleaner 👍

[hoary jackal]

Grips looks sad

[leaden kiln]

cut them with the worst scissors ever

[bright briar]

i bought that mouse and it smelled like shit (well burnt plastic)

[leaden kiln]

🤨

[bright briar]

thats what im saying

[leaden kiln]

will admit I dont think most brand new tech smells particularly nice though

mine doesn't stink

[bright briar]

it smelled so bad i had to leave it in my garage till i sold it to someone

[leaden kiln]

🤨🤨

[bright briar]

because final mouse were being sketchy with the return process

[hoary jackal]

Can’t comment on this but if ykyk

But kids got no wata

Poor kid

[leaden kiln]

ever since I got a mouse with holes im kinda worried about spilling drinks in kt

[hoary jackal]

@modest hill he can relate

[leaden kiln]

that's a crazy username to get
early account privilege

[hoary jackal]

Shhhhhh

Don’t get banned

[reef patrol]

[hoary jackal]

I’m don’t relate to a single word

[balmy marsh]

i need help dose anyone know abt gaming monitor

[hoary jackal]

Rtings

They have really good reviews I recommend them

[analog sinew]

mods are asleep

[leaden kiln]

no sleeping at work 💢

[hoary jackal]

Hi sperm

[modest hill]

I can indeed, keyboard is fine tho just put the sticky switches on a useless key

[hoary jackal]

…

[balmy vector]

Lets end this conversation

[hoary jackal]

Yea

[hoary jackal]

Very Segma

Don’t drop ur sticky vodka 🥶

[modest hill]

won’t do thanks mania 👍

[leaden kiln]

if the drink is strong enough it will make it clean instead of dirty

[modest hill]

35% pineapple so it was sticky

[leaden kiln]

Cooked

[hoary jackal]

Sure 🔥

65 other stuff

@modest hill might found most segma lube method

[modest hill]

water?

dafuq

[unkempt lake]

Wtf's going on

[hoary jackal]

Idk sperm

[severe phoenix]

https://vxtwitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1861543924470251771

[pale sigil]

Not sure how I feel about It tbh

But I can't wait to buy it on clearance!

[severe phoenix]

For 5 dollars

[safe berry]

why when I go to wootility just white screen?

[safe berry]

yo

[bright briar]

||eMeow||

[charred nexus]

woof

[reef patrol]

Chonk

[old marlin]

chomk

[umbral heron]

We just swapped to 3.84 and 7.68 ones

[old marlin]

inb4 it is sata

[umbral heron]

💀
NVMe obviously

[old marlin]

yea obv

would be funny tho

sata express for the memes

[cursive summit]

https://securityonline.info/cve-2024-11477-7-zip-vulnerability-allows-remote-code-execution-update-now/?utm_content=cmp-true

Damn I didn't know about this, this is pretty serious

I use Winrar though

[umbral heron]

Attackers could exploit this weakness by tricking users into opening specially crafted archive files. The consequences of successful exploitation could range from data theft to complete system compromise.
Meh

[cursive summit]

Could always be worse, nothing to worry about

If they just want my femboy pics they can just ask

[umbral heron]

For free?
There's quite... um... high demand for those

[cursive summit]

Anything's free for Calslock

https://x.com/simoncarless/status/1861586577585250751

Simon Carless (@simoncarless) on X

Notable: Wolfire & Dark Catt's antitrust suit against Steam has been certified as a 'class action', with 'all Steam devs who got paid out since 2017' now part of the eligible group: https://t.co/4vtL48qW0m (Doesn't mean the lawsuit succeeded, but it's an important milestone.)

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 1:43 AM

I can't see Steam losing an antitrust even if class action

[umbral heron]

omfg, they're still on it?

[digital cliff]

yes send me some pl- I mean huh

[cursive summit]

It would be nice if Steam lowered under 1 million sales share cut to like 12%

[mild dome]

Steam has engaged in seemingly no practices to cement its place as a monopoly other then being reliable?
Like there's an age old meme

[cursive summit]

Fleimi is here, the best finn

[lost carbon]

January is age old 😭

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/no-noodle-spray-bottle-animation-behave-gif-17954572

[mild dome]

It is in meme time

[umbral heron]

Honestly - I don't care
We'd pay the same price regardless, and only few indie devs would get to this threshold, which means AAA studios would get most of the cuts, which means more money for their execs (because people who actually work on games are on salary), so no, thank you
And at least Valve is doing something with the money they are earning from their cut, like literally carrying the whole Linux gaming ecosystem

[ashen spindle]

Nono you misunderstood, currently only AAA devs get a better cut when it should be indies who take a smaller hit

If it’s under 1 mil sales indie devs get 12% and if they explode and get more then they can join the higher tax bracket

Steam atm is literally reverse income tax brackets

[umbral heron]

Ooooh, yeah, you're right

My apologies

[ashen spindle]

and the only reason steam lowered that even is because that was the premise of the epic games launcher

they didnt want their big hits to jump to get 20% more money essentially since at that time people assumed epic would put more than 2 people on the dev team for that lol

which was nice because thats why ubi and EA decided to at least back onto those stores and probably big reason why r* launcher didnt leave steam either, but it still screws indie devs who have little sales and dont cost valve anything near the 30% they take

the point is they could lower the base cut significantly and still have enough money to do all the things they want to do

[mild dome]

Like:

• AAAA companies make their own launchers: all their launchers wind up being the bare minimum yet at the same time resource hogs and players wind up hating their booger aids launchers so much they refuse to use them. Forcing the AAAA companies back to Steam anyway

• Indie games try to launch from their own websites: Find that running all the resources to distribute your game is a pain in the ass, and it's cheaper to just use Steam and GoG, which also do to their popularity allows more players to see you

• Google Stadia: Everyone is revolted by the idea that you have to pay for the game, then pay a subscription on Stadia, a service that if shutdown would lock people out of their purchases forever, from Google, a company infamous of shutting down their services. Stadia gets shutdown after no one uses it

• The Epic Game Store, a true Steam competitor launches: EGS is so barebones it doesn't even have a shopping cart never mind community pages or reviews, winds up resorting to paying hefty sums of cash to studios to use their launcher exclusively, immediately pissing of gamers who don't trust Epic Games. Allows crypto scams to flood their store with cheaply made unity asset flips designed to sell "NFTs". And although it forced Steam to drop their fees to devs to remain competitive hasn't achieved much more then expending billions of Epic's money

[reef patrol]

Website launched game - What is this, Battlefield?

the flasbacks begin

[umbral heron]

At least Google owned it with Stadia, refunded all purchases and updated controllers so you can use them as BT ones

[ashen spindle]

also all these points are not relevant, if you are a quasi monopol and you are currently being the good guys, you are still a monopol, those things can happen at the same time and need to not be conflated

[old marlin]

small reminder that valve is one of the most profitable companies per employee

they absolutely do not need the 30% cut

thing is their platform is still so good and ubiquitous that if you actually got a "finished" product it is almost certainly worth it to launch there vs itch.io or something

[ashen spindle]

due to the wolfire court docs we know valve literally had better profit margins than nvidia and apple combined in some years

[umbral heron]

As a customer - I don't care how much cut they take, games will cost the same anyway, and they have best policies for customers out there, so
As Linux user - They heavily invest in Linux gaming ecosystem, so I don't mind

[old marlin]

I would prefer if indies get a better cut

[ashen spindle]

as a customer you do care because especially indie and AA games would literally be able to make another game/patch/dlc if they had 20% more money from sales sometimes

[old marlin]

with AAA stuff I don't care about publishers getting more money

[ashen spindle]

its just the same issue why the EGS premise isnt attracting as many people, its less tangible to see that a lower cut means you get a follow up to your favorite indie game than if you pay 1-$ less

[mild dome]

Part of anti-trust investigations is that they have to prove you are being anti-competitive either through:

• Selling at a loss to choke out smaller players
• Contracts that hamstring your customers and clients from using alternative services
• Using an infrastructure or a technology advantage to keep people out
• Using the court system to legally beat your competitors to death with legal costs

As far as I know Steam's only crime is being better then everyone else

[old marlin]

yea too bad the entire plattform sucked so much

• sweeney said some very sus shit surrounding it

[cursive summit]

Does EGS have a Workshop yet? Steam Workshop is amazing

[old marlin]

good joke

[ashen spindle]

the second point is what the lawsuit is all about basically

[mild dome]

EGS is also partially owned by Tencent, a Chinese mega investor that's quite suspicious

[umbral heron]

Fortnite has something like that
In the future we will be launching games straight from Forknife, mark my words

[old marlin]

yea it's not a crime but I would prefer that they don't only give better deals to big publishers but all devs

since the ones that would actually benefit people the most would be the ones that do not get the better cut

[ashen spindle]

cool and other evil companies have minor stakes in other companies that are public or private, nothing new here

[mild dome]

Problem is that I have not seen any contracts that hamstring customers or clients. Games will often launch on multiple PC marketplaces

[cursive summit]

Doubt that much would change if Valve had to lower their share they take, what, Gabe Newell will be unable to buy yet another megayacht?

[umbral heron]

Tencent invests in almost every gaming company they can lay their hands on, but they only care about Chinese market with those in which they have like 10% stake

[ashen spindle]

read the wolfire lawsuit then?

[mild dome]

Tell me the news

[old marlin]

last I checked the thing they hung up on was steam forcing you to not resell steam keys for your own game for less than the steam price

although afaik you don't pay the 30% cut so you earn more money

[ashen spindle]

Wolfire was explicitly told by Valve that Valve would delist the title from Steam if sold at a lower price on other storefronts.

[old marlin]

yea that is litreally point 2 up here

from how I understood it they only mentioned that about steam keys but that is something else

[cursive summit]

Seems harsh if you think about it, Valve and let's say Epic would be getting the same amount of money in share, it's just "hey that one is technically cheaper"

[ashen spindle]

also valves operating margin since 2009 has been between 70% and 85% fwiw

[umbral heron]

Yeah, Valve doesn't get their cut from keys https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys
Which you know, seems fair that they don't allow for selling them for cheaper in that case

[old marlin]

yea obv

cause otherwise you can make a competing storefront to steam while using steams services

[ashen spindle]

idk sounds to me more like an issue that would not happen if your store is superior anyway on merits alone so no reason to have that clause

[old marlin]

you could always undercut

[ashen spindle]

for example if your base cut is 12 like egs not 30% it wouldnt be worth it to sell keys elsewhere so its not that hard to think of how they could do that

[old marlin]

running a webstore is dirt cheap

it would be absolutely worth to resell with a 5% cut

if you don't have to host anything but a webstore and a mailing system to send out a steam key

[ashen spindle]

and steam offers things like points for customizing profile and all that, so steam has things they offer you for spending money that those resells wouldnt have

sounds to me at least like something that could very well go forward on merit and then have people who crunch nubmers for a living present that to a court

[old marlin]

are you trying to tell me that steam points actually are a selling point to anyone

[ashen spindle]

hell yeah they are

[umbral heron]

They are kinda... useless once you buy stuff to decorate your profile
Only that you can buy a badge once every 6 months

[mild dome]

Ok so now I got interested in reading into this case and yeah
They are not bitching about being unable to lower their prices on other platforms like Itchio, or GoG, but instead are bitching they can't sell Steam keys for less even though Steam is providing them with literally all their services

[cursive summit]

I never understood what that whole point thing

It's just flexing I guess? I don't get the need for that

Steam though is amazing cause don't they also provide code for making self-hosted servers work for games?

[old marlin]

check this

[cursive summit]

And interconnect through Steam services?

Steam is great for developers, they just charge a lot for it

[ashen spindle]

I mean, just take how often lana posted about getting different steam deck loading things with steam points others do that with their profile and its not like valve couldn't add more benefits

[lost carbon]

Guess people weren't bothering with trading cards for decorations so they wanted something more mainstream

[cursive summit]

Can you buy a Steam Deck with that?

[old marlin]

hell no

[old marlin]

they give you more than the trading cards can

[cursive summit]

If it has a practical application, I'd agree it's not useless

[old marlin]

you can buy profile customizations and the cosmetics you can get from trading cards (outside the "achievements")

most "useful" thing is seasonal badges

[fair gull]

honestly been using bandizip since ages cause both 7zip and winrar had massive issues with unicode folder names

[mild dome]

The trading card system was kind of cool with the art, but man it was kind of annoying to use
"Hey man, now that you played that game you purchased 12 months ago, here's 4 cards that are all the same, you can sell each card on the market for 1 cent each, and buy the other 12 your are missing for 5 cents each, good luck!"

[lost carbon]

no collecting just use steam normally and open up a normal marketplace

Wayy easier

[lost carbon]

And then the foil badges

[old marlin]

foil cards are a cool concept, too bad they are so rare that you just don't get them

wanna guess how many of my foils have listing in the market

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah lets not forget the steam market that valve takes a cut out of for just moving a database entry from one profile to another

[old marlin]

oh actually nvm it was just bugged

only one does not have one

but also

how many people know that the cards have a full artwork lol

[mild dome]

tbh I didn't even know there were foils

[old marlin]

that katamari cow for example

[ashen spindle]

did you know if you sell some rare skin like a cs knife for 1500 on the market valve charges you 75 for changing the entry from your account to the buyer

definitely needed

[old marlin]

I mean they basically pioneered it

sure, cut could have been smaller

I doubt they expected it to explode as much as it did

[ashen spindle]

I mean they raised the max prices you can list something for and could have changed the cut at the same time since its the same cost for them

[umbral heron]

Reason why people sell high-value items outside of Steam market

[ashen spindle]

yup

[mild dome]

It's dumb that valve charges by percentile, but that's the way the cookie crumbles, and apparently no one else can make a competent game store marketplace

[ashen spindle]

lower cut or cap it at a certain amount or anything would mean people are more likely to use steam market, which means both less scams and more sales that end up getting taxed

[umbral heron]

Also, wouldn't Valve get 225 cut, because they are also developer?

[ashen spindle]

I think the market sales are just 5% flat iirc

[umbral heron]

5 for Valve, 10 for developer

[ashen spindle]

[mild dome]

EGS is like: "Instead of using your items on a database, we used an NFT. So it's yours to own,
But also we own the blockchain that your item is on so it's more like an extremely inefficient private database but you use ethereum to buy the tokens instead"

[ashen spindle]

yeah I forgot about that

[old marlin]

still not sure if it was legal for ubisoft to pay employees bonuses in nfts

sounds a lot like company scrip to me

[ashen spindle]

so yeah the only markets that are super active afaik are TF2, dota and CS skins which is valve games so they really do take more like 15% of all market sales lol

so that just shows my point being even worse than I thought xD

[old marlin]

there are some other popular ones like rust

[umbral heron]

If that was additional bonus not specified in contract then no problem with that

[ashen spindle]

but lets say they keep that, just another point showing why they really could easily afford to lower cuts on game sales very easily

[mild dome]

In theory it's like paying shares, but I have no idea how this would get taxed?

[old marlin]

it's not like shares

it's basically exactly like scrip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip

[mild dome]

Ahh so you can't sell it on the wider market?

[old marlin]

they are NFTs on ubisofts own blockchain

[umbral heron]

Also, also - tons and tons of trades everyday, but most of them for 0.03
But Valve gets their 5%, in this case 33% cut off 0.01, same as devs, same as seller

[old marlin]

if you wanna resell it you can only do so through ubisoft, paying their fees etc

[mild dome]

Yeah sorry I thought you meant like Ethereum NFTs, which although still shit can be freely sold to another sucker

[old marlin]

they can be sold to another sucker

but only if you can find one

and even then only on the ubisoft blockchain that thing was on

small reminder that ubisoft recently launched a "real" NFT game without any advertising and it flopped super hard

[mild dome]

Ubisoft "Internally we value this NFT at 100,000 bucks!"
Employee: "Great! Who can I sell it too?"
Ubisoft:

[mild dome]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-good-gif-12770262

[umbral heron]

You valued it, so that means it's worth that much to you, so here's your NFT, gimme moni please

[mild dome]

I wonder if their "NFTs" are actually hosted on a real blockchain, or just a database

[old marlin]

the answer usually is both

small token in blockchain, real data in database

[umbral heron]

This thingy? https://youtu.be/TS_UPDqXhFI

[old marlin]

yea

[mild dome]

I mean if it's a private blockchain, then there's no point in actually making it a blockchain to begin with yeah?

[old marlin]

you overestimate the stupidity of people

that is how you ended up with the blockchain to begin with

[thick elk]

Youtube is on a roll today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4i9xh-SXU4
Auto translates the video with a bad sounding AI translation, removes english as an option

[old marlin]

what

[thick elk]

small tech startup things I guess.

[ashen spindle]

https://bsky.app/profile/hardwareunboxed.bsky.social/post/3lbwfxfqg432l

Hardware Unboxed (@hardwareunboxed.bsky.social)

So ah... YouTube just deleted the English audio track on our latest video and replaced it with... auto-dubbed AI Spanish?

Bluesky · Nov 27, 2024, 11:08 AM

[old marlin]

yea is also in a comment on the video

[rough osprey]

do they do auto translate now or is that still uploaded by the creator?

[thick elk]

Seems they auto translated this one, nuking the original audio in the process.
Probably an experiment rolled out on some of the video's.

Obviously failing.

[old marlin]

whoops

[primal nymph]

can i use anyother then lekker switches in my wooting 60he+?
if i can can you say some hall efect ones that are good?

[cursive summit]

You can use HE switches like Gateron Jades and the such, there's plenty to choose from

I'll replace this with https://youtu.be/uTmfsY8fH68 cause rtings don't even review HE switches

It has to be a magnetic switch to work with HE keyboards

Imo Wooting switches are good enough especially the V2 ones

[quaint dew]

imo the best he switch is geon raw he

ttc magneto is good if u don't care about sound

or if u like their sound

[cursive summit]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-RDNA-4-release-date-and-announcement-leak-alleges-at-least-one-next-gen-RX-8000-series-GPU-launch-for-January.923538.0.html

[ashen spindle]

mlid

[cursive summit]

Thought Lisa Su was the source on that

[ashen spindle]

we had known ces will be used for months and lisa confirmed this on the earnings call by saying early 2025 and this is talking about one coming in january which comes from mlid but is neither a new speculation nor any more relevant since hes less accurate than a coinflip

[cursive summit]

So, CES will bring prolly the new Threadrippers, new X3Ds, RDNA4, new handheld chips

What else are we expecting?

[ashen spindle]

no threadrippers

stx halo

[cursive summit]

Why, they are in shipping manifests

[cursive summit]

That is what I'm really looking forwards to

[ashen spindle]

yeah and they always come late

TR is a small market

[cursive summit]

Has there been any new Epycs?

[old marlin]

it being said by mlid makes it less likely

[ashen spindle]

turin is out yes

but epycs aren consumer products anyway

[analog sinew]

do we know if nvidia show rtx50 on ces

[cursive summit]

Thought I remember Nvidia rambling a lot about automotive AI chips during CES

[analog sinew]

driving into oncoming traffic :D

[ashen spindle]

yeah we're expecting 5090 and 5080 there

[old marlin]

meanwhile cars still run on mobile chips from like half a decade ago

[cursive summit]

Huh, doesn't Nvidia constantly release new Tegras

Ah "Jetson" is what they are called now

[old marlin]

the jetson is the dev kit

[cursive summit]

I guess adoption in the car market is slow for new chips since there's virtually no need for that?

[old marlin]

it's kinda required for autonomous driving

[cursive summit]

Isn't autonomous driving nowadays just a glorified take on cruise control

[old marlin]

nah

[analog sinew]

yea

[old marlin]

that is not the kind I mean

not just lane assist etc

but like fully autonomous is what nvidia is marketing towards

dollar per die area should be higher for nvidia in that segment

at least that is what they are betting on

[cursive summit]

Hasn't Nvidia been marketing fully autonomous for like a full decade now with no real improvement on that area?

[old marlin]

I mean it has been on a slow update for a while

tho I feel like we kinda hit a stop on that topic again

[empty wren]

CM5 is out https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/compute-module-5-on-sale-now/

[old marlin]

ngl

don't see much of a point for the pi 5 still

not saying the pi 4 is the fastest humanity will ever need for that calss of device

[cursive summit]

Raspberry hype made me want to buy one and I have no clue what I'd do with it

[old marlin]

but I just don't see what the pi 5 does that the 4 doesn't

[cursive summit]

Isn't Raspberry trying to make their own OS and full fledged integrated mini computers nowadays?

So more power isn't that bad for that purpose eh?

[umbral heron]

Trying is a good word, yeah
Not sure if they already fixed their wireless drivers

[cursive summit]

I saw that keyboard-PC thingy and thought it was really cool, dunno if it's just a gimmick though

Isn't Raspberry-OS like full on proprietary software as well and not even Linux based?

[umbral heron]

Nah, it's Debian-based
Just that they are bit behind... well, everything

[rough patrol]

thinking of setting up a jellyfin server but i dont really want to do it on my home network

[empty wren]

Physically it does have a power button, and the dsi/csi connectors are interchangable

[old marlin]

waow

[empty wren]

I know it is not much

[opaque pulsar]

MSI MAG 321UPX QD OLED for 810€. Deal or no deal?

[cursive summit]

Cheaper version of this display https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/mpg-321urx-qd-oled

No USB-PD, which doesn't really seem like that much of a drawback

[opaque pulsar]

New OLED Monitors. Some new pixel matrix at ces and 27“ 4K Oleds. RGB Matrix Oleds end of 2025 sadly.

[cursive summit]

From.. AMD?

And I only care about microled, thank you

[opaque pulsar]

Guess I didn’t read correctly.

[steady sail]

Im more than happy with IPS

[cursive summit]

I'm also more than happy with my NanoIPS

Though I've seen minileds and how amazingly saturated they are, and I kinda want that, waiting for microled though

[opaque pulsar]

I got a Samsung S70B ips rn, but the Samsung tizen smart monitor stuff drives me crazy

[opaque pulsar]

I think you got that backwards. You linked the more expensive 90w version. The upx is the one without usb and only 15w pd. Urx is 500€ more expensive

[cursive summit]

By Rtings:

MSI also has a very similar monitor, the MAG 321UPX QD-OLED, which lacks some of the extra features of the 321URX, such as 90W of power delivery over USB-C

I think you got that wrong, I literally said the UPX is the cheaper version, same display just less features you prolly don't care about like USB-PD

[opaque pulsar]

Less rgb which is good and I don’t use the other features on my desktop

Firmware updates seem to work via windows since fw0.15 which seem to be all recent deliveries

I like that this one is cheap, glossy and has no fan

[reef hound]

Yooo guys out of the new Lekker v2 switches which ones are the Most popular ?

I cant decide

[steady sail]

I went with the Asus ROG Strix XG27ACS 1440p IPS 180hz monitor

[steady sail]

It’s preference

Lekker45 is lighter lekker60 is heavier

Bc i love heavy switches i went with lekker60

[opaque pulsar]

Lekker60 isn’t heavy, just heavier than 45. I also like them. Would compare them to mx reds I had before

[reef hound]

And the gateron Jades are something in between ?

Or More on the lighter side

[steady sail]

Idk Jades are expensive

If u want new switches go with geon raw he

[opaque pulsar]

Lekker45 are 30-45 force, jade are 30-50, lekker60 are 40-60

[rough osprey]

whats the best way to copy everything from a boot drive to then use a new c drive in its place rn

[reef patrol]

L60 are just MX Reds.

Not in any way heavy, just average 😄

[marsh glade]

Like average American or average European?

"Big Boned"

[steady sail]

Okay yeah but its heavier then Lekker45

[reef patrol]

No. The Lekker45 is lighter than the average, L60 😄

60 is the norm, the default, the standard. Stop trying to gaslight people into thinking 45 is the norm.

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-pitchfork-kill-burn-stake-gif-11227021

[steady sail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-troll-trolling-we-do-a-little-trolling-we-do-gif-21450570

[reef patrol]

[steady sail]

[rough osprey]

this is too much

[steady sail]

[analog sinew]

they need l500 just to keep the finger up

[steady sail]

Lekker1000

[gloomy linden]

Tbh the L60 feel a lot more stiff at the start than cherry reds, I kinda prefer the steeper cherry red curve to the L60

[opaque pulsar]

Usually your new drives manufacturer has a tool for that. Need to be able to have the new drive connected tho. Could use that change to do a fresh windows install, if your current one is rather old.

[reef patrol]

Cloning software.

[rough osprey]

ye samsung seems to have one

gonna try that

[umbral heron]

https://videocardz.com/newz/prototype-geforce-rtx-4090-ti-gpu-has-been-found-in-computer-junk-bin-massive-quad-slot-design-and-rotated-pcie

[cursive summit]

It has to be fake though

You don't find what basically still is a technological halo in a fuckin garbage bin

[reef patrol]

Probably stole it and "threw it in the garbage" to whitewash it.

Wouldn't surprise me if it WAS in some sort of internal burn pile

[charred nexus]

Just throw it in the lost and found bin

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWuc5ecsIg

[charred nexus]

Yes

That's exactly what I'm thinking about

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/dh34GhbCyqk?si=03Ms8fyD3rmIiLzZ

@cursive summit

[cursive summit]

Why'd you ping me

I don't buy coolers that cost more than 50$

If I did, I'd prolly buy Noctua if it didn't look disgusting

[old marlin]

if they make a version without the stupid screen it might be good

[empty wren]

So no AIOs or custom loops

[ashen spindle]

well yeah AiOs are some of the worst things to get

[analog sinew]

screens on coolers

dumbest stuff

[balmy vector]

Anything for aesthetic

[wheat plume]

🤔

First time ive ever seen this warning in Firefox

[quaint dew]

why?

[unkempt lake]

Reminds me of when i found a core i7 7700k in the ewaste bin at work in like 2017

Back then i worked for a pc repair shop and we had a bin for like ewasre stuff outside and uh... someone put a pc in there that really didn't seem old so i took a look

Was an i7 7700k pc without the gpu in... motherboard was dead but the cpu was fine lol

What's stupid is it was clearly still underwarranty and idiot just tossed it into an ewaste bin outside instead of like... warrantying it

It was like late 2017 thing was barely a year old lol

And no wasn't a rig that had been brought into the shop

[ashen spindle]

because on desktop you can get the same or better performance with an aircooler while it costing less, making less sound, having no chance to have water issues and only not working if you want tiny from factors

[unkempt lake]

Isnt deepcool gone

After the russia thing

[ashen spindle]

never was

just sub company sellin in the US now instead

[vagrant pagoda]

You sure?

That would still be a violation of sanctions

[pale sigil]

It's usually auto enabled for shit like Netflix etc

[vagrant pagoda]

Ah yeah

[pale sigil]

What were you using.

[wheat plume]

I was looking up song lyrics on Genius....

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/deepcool-penalizes-chinese-distributor-for-selling-sanctioned-products-on-amazon-in-the-us-blurred-logo-and-brand-name-change-violated-contract

[unkempt lake]

Havent seen them at canadian retailers tbh

In a while

@ashen spindle

And the few that have them in stock are on clearance

[ashen spindle]

well yeah you wont see "deepcool"

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah reselling their products in the US is a violation of being on sdn list

Buying thing from SND listed companies is pretty hard

Source I have done it once

You need approval from the state department for each individual item.

You then have to wire the state department who dose the actual transaction

Nice thing is you get to bypass cbp

Down side is you gotta wait like 2 months once it hits state side

[charred nexus]

I guess i found out Finalshit ULX Aceu coating can come off

I bath it too long in 70% IPA and it starting coming off

damn

[cursive summit]

Indeed, cause why'd I want that

Ryzen doesn't sip that much power and a good air cooler can easily power it

And even then, if I did want to do liquid for some reason, there's good options even for a fiddy

[verbal ice]

the hell are you even saying "disgusting"

[cursive summit]

See that actually looks good, but that version of NH-D15 G2 isn't even out yet

The vomit brown is what's disgusting

[verbal ice]

no but if you go with a build with that aesthetic it looks really nice

it's just a very odd default

[cursive summit]

Okay, but why'd I spend 150$ for it when there's so many good tower coolers for 3x cheaper

A tower cooler isn't anything I'd ever fess about to spend more, unlike a Wooting

[verbal ice]

cuz there's none that are as quiet as this one

[cursive summit]

I.. couldn't care less

I play with headphones

[distant tapir]

I like the brown more than the black.

[verbal ice]

ok that's sus

[cursive summit]

The laptop I have at 120W GPU mode is as loud as TV speakers

I can't hear that at all with headphones on

So I don't and never cared about quietness of fans

All that matters is price

[verbal ice]

when I work I don't like to wear headphones, I don't listen to anything cuz distracting, so I want a quiet workstation

If you just game, yeah sure, doesn't matter

[cursive summit]

I work with constant background audio on, so, headphones or IEMs

Everyone is different

[verbal ice]

I mean it also depends on the type of work you're doing, if you are solving something hard, you can't really listen to kendrick go off in the bg

[cursive summit]

Wtf you mean I literally code with the new Kenny album playing

wacced out murals goes hard

[verbal ice]

again, depends on what you're coding

it's one thing coding up a UI or a CRUD endpoint, and another thing debugging a race condition

[charred nexus]

i listen to music, but like if i need to lock in, i either go for something calm like lofi or something hard but without vocal

[verbal ice]

yeah it's levels for sure

[charred nexus]

things with vocal i would sing it so its not helping sometimes. but like most of the time it would just fade in the background so i dont really gaf

[verbal ice]

everyone is different, to me, when I listen to music and try to debug / refactor something, I feel like it's getting in the way, like wasting brain resources for no reason

if i'm prototyping something / fixing something I already know how, not an issue

but when actually working on something difficult I find any noise just distracting

going back on topic, especially loud / wobbly fans

[wheat plume]

which one should I use in my update and cleanup script?!

[charred nexus]

idk, my pc is next to me and it idle at around 46-7 db next to it (or at least my room is around that with the PC on and idling) . when you are doing stuff its not really that noticeable

[verbal ice]

one after the other usually?

[charred nexus]

it dont get louder unless it goes like full load, and still it doesnt get louder than 60

[verbal ice]

but I don't use whatever distro this is, so no idea

wait how can i measure that? can my phone measure?

[charred nexus]

its not that accurate i think but sure

[verbal ice]

my phone can pick up 30flat with normal usage

40 while in cs vs bots

[fair gull]

that isnt apt

[fair gull]

also you answered yourself in your question

update

[verbal ice]

Idk, arch btw

[fair gull]

also lana check if one isnt an alias for the other

[wheat plume]

im using Fedora, which uses DNF to update, but seems upgrade option can cause breakage

No, its not.....they are different but subtley

[fair gull]

iirc dnf upgrade isnt the same as system-upgrade and if memory serves right upgrade was just an alias for update

[wheat plume]

thats the case for apt, iirc

not dnf it would seem

[verbal ice]

no

[fair gull]

no

[verbal ice]

apt update updates repos

sync repos*

[wheat plume]

upgrade can remove the older package while update keeps it

[verbal ice]

and upgrade upgrades the actual software

[fair gull]

you know from that 1 website or cause you actually checked the man page/help text?

[charred nexus]

My room is quite noisy, it avg around 40 with the doors open directly leading to the living room

Full load I think my pc go to 50

at my set it’s around 44-5 db at idle

So probably like 5-10 db difference

[verbal ice]

the loudest my pc gets is when I play something, and it's the gpu's coil whine

[wheat plume]

alias dnfs="dnf search "
alias dnfi="sudo dnf install "
alias dnfu="sudo dnf --refresh upgrade"
alias dnfr="sudo dnf remove "
alias dnfar="sudo dnf autoremove"

I'll add this then

[verbal ice]

it's not even the fans

[fair gull]

id just "man dnf" and check what the difference is

[wheat plume]

the man page doesnt mention update, just upgrade...so I will use upgrade instead

maybe update was removed in dnf 5?? I could check

[charred nexus]

I don’t get coil whine, but I have 9 case fans in my pc plus 3 GPU

[fair gull]

prob

[verbal ice]

9 case fans?!
I have 4 + cpu fan

why tf 9 fans

what chip are you running?

[charred nexus]

11900K

3 for aio

[verbal ice]

ooh you have aio

[charred nexus]

I have NV7 so bottom 3 and side 3 for intake

Basically this excluding the left two

[verbal ice]

that's a lotta fans

what's your cpu temp at normal usage?

[charred nexus]

40? I think

60 something full load

[verbal ice]

that's pretty good

[charred nexus]

I mean on a hot day it can get to 70 something

[charred nexus]

I mean 11900K ain’t that hot but I was getting 80 with a 240 so I swap out for a 360

[verbal ice]

240 360?

what are these numbers?

[charred nexus]

aio size

[verbal ice]

oh

[charred nexus]

240 is basically two 120mm fan

[alpine patio]

[charred nexus]

360 3 120fans

[alpine patio]

waiting for it to blow up

[charred nexus]

It’s fine, I run it up to 120

[alpine patio]

lmao

[charred nexus]

Let the cpu cook itself

It’s fun

[fair gull]

only thing i can find for dnf man and update is this

Deprecated alias for the Upgrade Command.```

[barren pike]

And that's what it's always been for dnf.

You have to go back into the distant past of yum for it to be anything else.

[wheat plume]

ooo it was removed

[ashen spindle]

how old is that comparison you found when its been a deprecated alias for years

[reef patrol]

Finally received my Ghostglide pads. They are... smaller than I expected 😄

[fair gull]

given that comparison said dnf and yum it might also be ai slop

[charred nexus]

I just forgot ghostglides make mousepad

[reef patrol]

Uh... SKATES.

[charred nexus]

I just remember their “not another anime pad” that’s all

[charred nexus]

lmao

I have 3 packs I bought from Japan

[reef patrol]

Fixing the Superlight one mod at a time. Hotswap PCB, new switches and most importantly skates that lets me open it as needed, when the scroll wheel clogs.

[deft raptor]

Oh yeah, Endgame Gear Op1 8k mouse works just fine aid fits my hand

[charred nexus]

I don’t want what to buy as gift so I bought 3 packs, one for myself and 2 for my 2 other friends, none of em wants it, so I kept it to myself lmao

[deft raptor]

I am curious how much modding this logitech superlight can take

[tight dragon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XR6KBq

What do yall think of this build?

[deft raptor]

Ah, thank you for these pictures

[charred nexus]

Gonna replace the whole mouse to fix the superlight

[reef patrol]

Without being an expert. I think you can get a better, more square air cooler.
The motherboard seems over the top? B650 not doing it for you in terms of sockets?
4TB NVME? I mean it's your money. I would go for a 2TB one and a massive harddisk for slow media storage. Could even chuck games you don't use over there on occasion if your internet is slow.

[tight dragon]

Does the mouse ever feel hot?

[charred nexus]

Wdym

[deft raptor]

There's a crazy deal about 4tb nvme if you live in Canada

[tight dragon]

I only say that because I can see the openings, unless that's just for the design itself.

[reef patrol]

Fair enough! 🙂

[charred nexus]

Less material = lighter

[deft raptor]

Here's it : https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00130705

[reef patrol]

I just know from experience how hard it can be to fill up 4TB, if you actually uninstall games you stop playing 😄

[tight dragon]

Makes sense. 👍 It's not a bad mouse too, I like it. I choose the Razor Viper V3 Pro though.

[ashen spindle]

holy expensive ass board, are you sure you need that?

[deft raptor]

Lmao, I nearly filled up my 1tb ssd and I have ordered a new nvme Samsung 990 Evo after testing and finding out the new WD SN770 is a pile of crap for BTRFS file system with typical gaming workloads

[tight dragon]

Strictly for gaming and streaming.

[charred nexus]

I never really use that mouse, I have way better mouse on my hand

[analog sinew]

hello citizens of the tech channel, I am a refugee from general seeking asylum

[ashen spindle]

get one for 1/6th the price then lol

[tight dragon]

If you have advise , I could use it 🙏

[wheat plume]

my attempts to change the fastfetch logo arent working properly

[tight dragon]

I'm missing some parts

[deft raptor]

Join us, I have muted #💬│general

[analog sinew]

looks great

i like general but recently there have been a few... incidents

[charred nexus]

As the citizens of tech channel I grant you the privilege to stay here

[deft raptor]

Remember, some shells can interpret some characters

[wheat plume]

this is zsh

[ashen spindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

[wheat plume]

that being said, these ascii arts were made for neofetch, not fastfetch

[analog sinew]

thank you kind sir

[deft raptor]

Oh

[analog sinew]

or maam

[tight dragon]

Sorry, I kind of ignored your comment here. Would you have any recommendations on what parts I should add for a 7800X3D CPU and TUF 4080 Super GPU?

[charred nexus]

Lmao I have 2 sn770

[deft raptor]

Yeah, several crashes. I did run memtest, no errors for my ram.

It always happens when you do massive amount of reads on it like checksumming a big game

Even on most current firmware, still ocurring. I happen to have a github link detailing this issue

[charred nexus]

Idk mine works fine, but I never throw stuffs at it so idk

[deft raptor]

https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/discussions/14793#discussioncomment-11310878

[tight dragon]

Air cooler or liquid cooler? I kind of don't want to do too much high maintenance.

[reef patrol]

Air is always less maintenance overall. And easier to install imo

[tight dragon]

PC is gonna run hot, so I gotta find the right air cooler you know. You know which would be the best for this build?

[deft raptor]

On budget ? Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 for air cpu cooler

[charred nexus]

Interesting, but I’m out of the loop on ssds anyway

[gusty kiln]

rip I bought SN770 for my cache drives for unraid

dunno if that correlates

[tight dragon]

If it were on budget, will it still be in good condition, because I don't want to be worrying about it in the future.

[deft raptor]

No worries, you wouldn't check out these issues when you aren't having problems with your sn770s

[tight dragon]

I'll check it out, thanks.

[charred nexus]

Yeah, plus I bought it back in 2022/3 I think

[cursive summit]

Not Peerless Assassin, check if the upgraded version Phantom Spirit is about the same price

[tight dragon]

What's the difference between the too?

[charred nexus]

And I’m only using it for my windows drive

[cursive summit]

Phantom Spirit has.. I think 2 extra copper heatpipes?

For a similar price, it's a general upgrade

And you'd save about 70$ over NH-D15

I don't see why you need X870E either

[deft raptor]

Oh yeah, follow him, they perform slightly better for similar price

[tight dragon]

I'm not trying to future proof, although I really should keep it on the table

[cursive summit]

If you just get a B650 you can get like 450$ off

[deft raptor]

The acceptable max amd chipset would be x670e, no more

[cursive summit]

Trident Z5 Neo, great binned memory usually, try checking for DDR-8000, sometimes they can rarely be on a bargain deal for 200ish

[deft raptor]

x870e will always demand high premium and bigger board size for no reason for someone that does have one gpu

[wise condor]

Anyone know if any keycaps that match the optimum case aesthetic in an ISO layout. Real pain in the arse trying to find a good match.

[cursive summit]

I'd nowadays steer clear from Samsung, but 4TB for 270$ is a decent deal, would check for SN850X or such

[tight dragon]

Alright bet, it was hard trying to find a x870e motherboard anyways. Some YouTubers manage to find the right one but they never show the longevity of the build itself

[cursive summit]

Toughpower GF1 iirc when I checked though has horrid overcurrent protection

You could get a tiny bit better units for a little bit more

[tight dragon]

Would you recommend single or dual GPU?

[cursive summit]

And honestly, since you are already spending an insane amount on the motherboard, if you save 450$ on that and another 70$ on cooler, you can try looking for a 4090

[cursive summit]

Single, dual GPU is for servers

Nobody should dual GPU unless you are doing something very specific

[charred nexus]

Ain’t dual dual gpu dead like 6 years ago

[deft raptor]

Ah, I always been on a single gpu. Never dabbled with dual gpu

dual gpu makes sense in some niche workloads including in servers

[cursive summit]

Still a thing

[tight dragon]

alr

[charred nexus]

I mean like consumer level

[cursive summit]

Still a thing there too but very rare

[charred nexus]

ain’t sli dead? Unless you doing ai stuff

[cursive summit]

You don't need an SLI bridge to dual GPU as far as I'm aware

[tight dragon]

Going back to the CPU Cooler, a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE has 1550 RPM, while a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE has 1500 RPM.

Isn't higher better?

[cursive summit]

Phantom Spirit is the better option

It's a literal upgrade from the company

When it comes to RPM, that's not a higher = better thing, fan design and obviously, the heatsink is a major component

Phantom Spirit has more heatpipes, it's a better product

[tight dragon]

Alright I trust you.

[charred nexus]

right but you can’t game on them? I mean I have two gpu in my tower rig for kvm

[cursive summit]

Why wouldn't you be able to game on them

[tight dragon]

?

[compact relic]

I think he means games wont use both like in sli

[charred nexus]

Idk I don’t really look at dual gpu stuff since GTX 10 series stuff correct me if I’m wrong

[deft raptor]

One of niche cases of dual gpus is be able to run 2 operating systems at same time on a pc with 2 gpus

[cursive summit]

Well that's not cause you can't, that's just cause nothing is optimized for that

[deft raptor]

Or 2 desktop sessions at same time, I don't remember which is true

[tight dragon]

I'm not going for dual, I'll keep a single GPU for now

[cursive summit]

Do not get a dual GPU, that's incredibly stupid

That's an artifact from 2015 era that people still remember

[compact relic]

Dual is pointless for gaming

[charred nexus]

Right, it’s not optimized since like forever. But I didn’t know you can game on both at the same time without sli or nvlink

[tight dragon]

Which operating system should I go for?

[cursive summit]

That just increases the interconnect between cards

[analog sinew]

dual gpu is only for AI shit right

[cursive summit]

There's only one correct choice

[cursive summit]

Nowadays, that's what it's used for

[analog sinew]

maybe 3d rendering

like professionally

[wild coyote]

I had 1 AMD and 1 Nvidia gpu on my pc, but then problems occurred on Cyberpunk 2077

[compact relic]

just get win11 if you're not experienced with linux

[steady sail]

macOS

[charred nexus]

dos

[cursive summit]

Indeed, go with MS-DOS

[analog sinew]

hannah montana linux

[wild coyote]

Android

[cursive summit]

Maybe just unix shell

[deft raptor]

TempleOS

[compact relic]

TempleOS

[analog sinew]

red star Os

[compact relic]

damn beat me to it

[charred nexus]

Ubuntu Satanic

[tight dragon]

I'm gonna be using DLSS 3.5 Super Resolution DLAA with 4080 Super OC

[analog sinew]

ok

[wild coyote]

Arch

[charred nexus]

Yes

[wild coyote]

Arch + Hyprland

[cursive summit]

Anyways, @tight dragon I have tweaked your list a bit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VTD2x

For a bit more you get a 4090, (and don't buy an OS license cause.. you don't need it, just buy a 2$ key if you want)

[wild coyote]

Valid or nah?

[cursive summit]

Suno that be?

[wild coyote]

hUh

[tight dragon]

Looks good. I noticed you removed the 990 samsung pro, are yo sure?

[charred nexus]

nah Arch + Gnome or Pop!_OS + Hyprland cuz why not

[wild coyote]

frfr

[cursive summit]

990 Pro is not that great

[wild coyote]

Yeah 990 pro aint great

WD Black is an absolute W

[cursive summit]

Also you save a bit

[tight dragon]

Is it because of budget or../

Storage

[wild coyote]

WD Black is more reliable

[cursive summit]

Samsung has issues

[charred nexus]

Then someone gonna bring up that SN770 have problem with ZFS

[cursive summit]

Reliability, overpriced, other SSDs are just better

As in, other SSDs are more reliable, faster and cheaper

[tight dragon]

Hm.

[wild coyote]

The dude has a WD Black SN850X

[cursive summit]

Samsung is good, not best

[wild coyote]

Dodged xd

[cursive summit]

SN850X is great

[gusty kiln]

Sn770 as a cache? or array?

zfs usually don't need ssd cache

[cursive summit]

Which is the Samsung drive that they sell as a high end one that's literally DRAMless?

Is it the 980?

[unkempt lake]

I run an SN770 lol

I got it for like... 75 cad on clearance for a 1tb

It's a great drive no issues there

[unkempt lake]

990 evo

[tight dragon]

Can you send me a link plz?

[cursive summit]

Oh lawd that brings back some memories

[cursive summit]

I don't have any links, and they are not hard to find

[charred nexus]

Idk I don’t run my SN770 as an array but someone said they have issue with SN770 as an array with zfs

Idk you can look at the message earlier I’m just sayin

[tight dragon]

They sell it on amazon right?

[unkempt lake]

Paid 53usd for mine in june :3

[cursive summit]

Windows keys? I doubt they sell them on amazon lol

The 5$ ones are on ebay and such

[charred nexus]

I got two 1TB and one 2 TB

[cursive summit]

Other.. more controversial marketplaces are like G2A, Kinguin, Eneba

All "potentially illegal" marketplaces that may or may not sell you a stolen key for ridiculously cheap

[unkempt lake]

My other m.2 is an sn750 1tb

[gusty kiln]

right now it's the lowest since last year before the AI boom

[unkempt lake]

In the us yeah

[tight dragon]

Yeah, AI is really booming

[unkempt lake]

Also heavily discounted in canada

Idk thinking about picking up more storage

[gusty kiln]

43 USD in august 2023

damn

[charred nexus]

Damn I can get a ssd with 43 USB

[unkempt lake]

But at the same time I feel like i'm most likely fine?

[gusty kiln]

ninja edit

[tight dragon]

Does it matter how much storage or RAM you have? Probably a dumb question.

[cursive summit]

It does, but there's a limit how much you need

[charred nexus]

It does

[cursive summit]

Are you a data hoarder? Do you do.. video editing?

[unkempt lake]

2x1tb of m.2 storage
3x1tb of sata ssds

[gusty kiln]

my SN770 are going to be write cache

[unkempt lake]

I'll say sata ssds are still fine for a lot of stuff

[cursive summit]

RAM is like, 32GBs is still fine, 48GBs you'd be golden if you only do gaming, 64GBs you can also do many productivity scenarios perfectly fine

[unkempt lake]

Including games

[cursive summit]

Storage is literally, how many games do you have installed?

Do you download movies and shows and shit

I'm fine with 2TB and 32GB, you might not

[wild coyote]

me rn 💀

[cursive summit]

Wot ze fak

[gusty kiln]

that's why I'm building an unraid server

[cursive summit]

I don't watch movies at all so I don't care

[gusty kiln]

I got 3X 12tb red plus on the way

[tight dragon]

Can a single WD_Black store a program like Google, Spotify, Discord, Games?

1tb

[cursive summit]

Why even hoard data when streaming services exist

[gusty kiln]

easily

[cursive summit]

Which games

Answer is yes until you install multiple COD copies

[wild coyote]

That really depends on the games part 😄

[tight dragon]

Steam games/console games

[gusty kiln]

cuz they can easily just remove the content anytime they want

[charred nexus]

Trust me, you still gonna have stuff on you pc even if you have an unraid server. Cuz I do

[tight dragon]

Maybe like

Warzone

[cursive summit]

Warzone is yeesh

2TB will be enough for you, they are like 130$

[wild coyote]

You'd be filling that drive up pretty fast

[gusty kiln]

I have 3x 1TB ssd on my pc, so I'm fine

[wild coyote]

Especially when COD is crazy with storage taking

[tight dragon]

What about warhammer

[wild coyote]

I need to get myself a 4TB M.2 for everything

[tight dragon]

on steam

[deft raptor]

lol, Mass Effect Legendary edition takes 120gb

[cursive summit]

That's a smaller game afaik

@tight dragon Just get this, it's cheap as peanuts

[charred nexus]

I have 2 4TB HDD inside my PC with 2 2TB ssd I’m still filling up stuffs

[wild coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[cursive summit]

I remember spending 110$ on 1TB a few years back.. why is data storage fuckin cheap now

[wild coyote]

I dunno

[deft raptor]

I hardly hear any issues with SN850x for others, only about SN770 having issues

[gusty kiln]

I'm going to have 24TB with a single parity once I'm done

[wild coyote]

tbh I did get my 8TB hdd for 80 bucks

[tight dragon]

The only problem I have is like, optimization, configuration, BIOs

[charred nexus]

plus the 1TB windows drive and a 512 for Linux

[cursive summit]

What's the problem there

[tight dragon]

Well for one this is my first build XD

[cursive summit]

There's nothing to worry about there

[wild coyote]

To optimize your system, just delete bloatware from Windows and install the necessary softwares and apps that you use and need

[deft raptor]

This is rarely needed that you need to go into bios, you only have do 2 or 3 times and that's it.

[gusty kiln]

if you don't care about noise, there are some great HDD deals atm

https://serverpartdeals.com/collections/black-friday-deals

[cursive summit]

Though depending on what motherboard you get, it might not support 7800X3D out of the box

[wild coyote]

BIOS, just enable XMP/EXPO

[cursive summit]

You'll need a laptop or such to download and flash bios onto the mobo

[tight dragon]

I want to just keep it on default until I need to overclock you know

[cursive summit]

Hell even a phone might be enough if you have a USB-C to USB-A dongle

[wild coyote]

Unless they got a dual drive for phone as well yk

[cursive summit]

You never need to overclock imo

I've never overclocked in my life

[deft raptor]

Well, phones can function as storage drive.

[wild coyote]

You really don't need to overclock whatsoever

[cursive summit]

Overclocking is geek shit

[tight dragon]

lol

[wild coyote]

You have a pretty powerful system, there's no requirement for overclocking unless you got a low-end pc tryna get some better frames

[deft raptor]

The popular adjustment for amd cpus is undervolting so they can boost far longer

[cursive summit]

Overclocking is for the same kind of people that always claim that you are buying wrong things and you need to spend 2x more for 1% extra performance

[tight dragon]

I'll keep that in mind then, thanks

[charred nexus]

Damn, I have like 12TB or something on my unraid server, it’s almost full. I keep all my photos and video from my phones on it, it already takes up like 2 TB of it. Let alone my huge ass collection of raw + jpeg from my A7R4
Plus a bunch of game clips and files that I kept.

[cursive summit]

I'd also be careful with that cause any wrong use of overclocking or undervolting can and potentially will void your warranty

Just do not overclock/volt

[wild coyote]

Too bad getting a NAS is useless for me 🤷‍♂️

[gusty kiln]

I got a huge flac music library and a bunch of movies and shows on my 8TB external. Going to be nice upgrading to this

[tight dragon]

power consumption is another thing people are worried about

[cursive summit]

When you can't tell apart 128kbps from lossless

[analog sinew]

my pc has its own nuclear reactor

[compact relic]

literally no reason to be worried about it

[cursive summit]

With an RTX 4080 or 4090 you will be consuming plenty of power, that's just the nature of those high end cards

[gusty kiln]

nah 128 is ass, but a good 320 would be hard

[cursive summit]

If you have a good PSU though that's not a problem

[wild coyote]

You don't need to worry about it unless you run your PC 24/7 without any shutdown

[tight dragon]

Nah, I got work to do. So it'll def have some free time once in a while.

[steady sail]

and im perfectly fine with spotify's music quality

[charred nexus]

I don’t have much of a flac music library. I used to have, then I try Apple Music and I no longer bother to use a player when I’m outside
I do have some blue ray on my server but that’s just a small part of my data. My Android phone rom zip/gsi image collection is larger than the whole music plus movie library 💀

[deft raptor]

Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W is a very good PSU

I think they are still on big sale as of now

[cursive summit]

An 850W one will be just fine lol

[wild coyote]

You'll be fine. The whole build would take less than 800W just fine

[deft raptor]

Yeah, I don't know if 4090 did require 1000W or 850w psu

[cursive summit]

I don't notice a 12V connector either

[wild coyote]

It's not like you'll have an entire server farm in your own home

[deft raptor]

But 850W also works

[cursive summit]

So it's not ATX 3.0 compliant

[gusty kiln]

I don't use iOS, but I've tried spotify/youtube music/qobuz/tidal and each of them would be missing a couple albums/artists I like

[deft raptor]

Ah, eh well damn

[tight dragon]

If I wanted to go over 850W for a 1000W, would it interfere with anything in particular?

[gusty kiln]

so I gave up and now trying to self host

[cursive summit]

A 2023 Corsair 850W will be with a 12V, ATX 3.1 probably and be affordable and plenty for a 4090

Great efficiency

No need to overspend

[wild coyote]

^^

[tight dragon]

So I wouldn't need to change or upgrade anything?

[wild coyote]

Vex you should change your discord status since stalker 2 is out 🤷‍♂️

[cursive summit]

What's your current list

[steady sail]

me with my phanteks (seasonic) 850w Revolt Pro psu

[cursive summit]

You are right

[tight dragon]

The one you corrected

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VTD2x

[charred nexus]

Spotify sounds bad, I used to have tidal but Apple Music have lossless streams and I tried it it’s good enough for me. Btw I use Apple Music android app

[cursive summit]

Well, anyone stand for corrections on that?

[cursive summit]

I did so just for you bby

[wild coyote]

<3

[wild coyote]

I use spotify due to the features, it's bussin

[gusty kiln]

ah lol, I think it's not lossless on android unless they updated it

[cursive summit]

All of my playlists are on youtube and I'm not paying for Spotify premium, so I'm using Youtube music cause that's good enough for me

[tight dragon]

What's the lifespan of this build? Typically 5-6 years right, depending on the clock in & out?

[charred nexus]

I still have Spotify tho, just because its shuffle feature. (I’m those person who doesn’t have a playlist other than the liked music playlist which is a mess)

[wild coyote]

I don't mind switching services, but considering I'm using student discount I'll use what I can

[cursive summit]

I mean, it'll last as long as you are happy with it

[leaden kiln]

A lot of music I listen to is not on services I've tried
But spotify let's me play local files and put them in playlists so that's my current choice

[cursive summit]

PCs lifespan is like, near eternal until something is just weak and you replace it

[tight dragon]

Yeah.

[cursive summit]

If you are happy with it it'll last you like 8 years I imagine until you get a new GPU or CPU

[steady sail]

(joke) with the 5090 is nearly here the 4090 is gonna be outdated

[wild coyote]

That's a horrible joke, understandable

[cursive summit]

That's a horrible joke, agreed

[tight dragon]

I used to have a Del PC, it got so dirty and started to have malfunctions. It was pretty slow even connected to the ethernet.

[leaden kiln]

Let's me mix local music, streamed music, and podcasts in the same queue too
Which is nice

[cursive summit]

Delete PC?

[tight dragon]

Just Dell

[wild coyote]

Average Dell experience

[tight dragon]

It's old

[cursive summit]

Ah, I thought you deleted the PC

[wild coyote]

Your build is basically a beast

[charred nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-old-man-my-computer-delete-my-computer-delete-gif-12348422

[cursive summit]

Dell does deserve to be deleted anyways

[wild coyote]

It'll feel so much faster and absolute smooth

[charred nexus]

I don’t want my XPS to be gone

[deft raptor]

That's from qudelix ?

[cursive summit]

As a fellow XPS owner, fuck XPS

Also fuck HP

[charred nexus]

No? That’s Apple Music

[wild coyote]

Me and a friend got a Dell server rack for the price of a coffee bag

[cursive summit]

Dell and HP are probably my least favourite companies that exist, just pure trash and ass

[charred nexus]

It looks cool, it run macOS so I’m fine with it

[deft raptor]

Ah, I was wondering because UI has similar color with qudelix app I had

[gusty kiln]

oh nice

[cursive summit]

Mac on a Dell device.. wat?

[deft raptor]

Hackitosh

[cursive summit]

Why'd you torture yourself

Shit OS on a shit device

[wild coyote]

Ahh yes, hackitosh

[tight dragon]

Vex, you mind if I add you. I don't really know that much about optimization, I might need some hand holdings yk

[cursive summit]

Add me to where? Your gooner hideout?

[tight dragon]

😆

[cursive summit]

Just @ me

[charred nexus]

Nah macOS on dell xps looks way better than a macbook

[tight dragon]

alright then

[steady sail]

he is always online

[hoary jackal]

💀

Keep ur opinion to ur self

[cursive summit]

I always come online but I'm not always online

[deft raptor]

Way too much handholding, I worry the hand to hand contacts will incur some powerful pixelation field around it

[cursive summit]

A shinier turd is literally a turd still

[tight dragon]

ty for everyone who helped me by the way 👍 🙏

[wild coyote]

Alright, now to start my very not-so-funny joke.
Donate some kebab plz <<333

[charred nexus]

Not my pic but I stand by my opinion

[cursive summit]

Where are you from homeboy?

[wild coyote]

Finland :)

[cursive summit]

You do not get kebab unless slav, that's cultural appropriation

[wild coyote]

Parents are from Kosovo

[cursive summit]

Good enough, let's have kebab some time together

[wild coyote]

Fight me now xd

[steady sail]

https://tenor.com/view/kebab-pass-the-kebab-pass-down-pass-the-kebab-down-gif-23345457

[compact relic]

Yoink

[wild coyote]

NOOO

[compact relic]

ty

[hoary jackal]

Unstable structure

https://tenor.com/view/falling-building-gif-21858656

[charred nexus]

My Windows install is worst so idgaf

[hoary jackal]

Windows ltsc

[steady sail]

everyone buys 4090's meanwhile me that 3090 looks good enough

[charred nexus]

What am I, an enterprise? No thanks

[wild coyote]

fr

[hoary jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/laughingez-gif-26187560

[cedar fog]

I heard the 5090 is 4x more expensive

just buy that

[hoary jackal]

Or don’t be dumb

[steady sail]

im gonna wait till everyone starts selling their 4090's and check 2nd hand prices

[cursive summit]

You got some of dem burnt fuses?

[hoary jackal]

Segma mindset

[charred nexus]

I’m good with a 7900XTX, so anyone gonna donate me one?

[deft raptor]

I have seen 7900 gre having their prices jacked up HARD after getting mine for 533 usd

[wheat plume]

thought that word was a different word...my brain is cursed

[hoary jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/gpu-rtx-3080-gif-19640317

[cursive summit]

Wym, GRE is still perfectly normal

[wheat plume]

^ RTX 6090

[hoary jackal]

Wat word

Wat da segma

[compact relic]

Gucci card, i have one too

[wheat plume]

(add an m after the s)

[charred nexus]

segma meal

[deft raptor]

Ah, last I checked was on newegg.ca on listings of 7900 gre

[tight dragon]

@cursive summit RTX has a shortage on 4090's in Amazon, I could try newegg but I don't really want a used one. That's also why I wanted to go for a 4080 Super.

[deft raptor]

Looks it sold out ! : https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00129014

[charred nexus]

I’m too poor to have one

[hoary jackal]

😈

[cursive summit]

I mean if you want to save get a 4080 Super, if you want the best get a 4090

[hoary jackal]

U need god

[cursive summit]

If you want to save even more get the 7900 XTX

[hoary jackal]

I eat 1050 ti

[hoary jackal]

Poor kids in Africa aren’t thinking bout this

[cursive summit]

Also RTX 4080 is basically the RTX 4080 Super, they did virtually nothing for the Super model of the 80 card

[tight dragon]

If I wanted to switch the GPU right now, would I need to change anything with my build or is it fine? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VTD2x

[charred nexus]

Half height 1050ti

[compact relic]

7900xtx aint a bad alternative for 4080

[cursive summit]

Looks good, perhaps get a better display

[hoary jackal]

Wat do u meaning

😱

[tight dragon]

So motherboard?

Or case

[cursive summit]

Motherboard and case are fine imo

[steady sail]

nothing

[cursive summit]

I meant your monitor, panel, display

[tight dragon]

Oh, sorry

[cursive summit]

That one is VA, and those are bleh

[charred nexus]

Eat this, this the goat

[tight dragon]

Monitors rn are so expensive

[cursive summit]

Get a NanoIPS at least, miniled and OLED are also options

[hoary jackal]

🔥

[cursive summit]

They are.. kinda not afaik?

Last I checked displays have been getting cheaper year by year

[hoary jackal]

My mouth is getting an erection