#🔌│tech
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Though prices seemed to have swelled up, 2 weeks ago 7900GRE was 515 euros, now it's back to 570
yes
Expecting RDNA3 to get cheaper due to RDNA4 is wishful thinking
RDNA2 is still priced the same as RDNA3 even when RDNA4 is about to launch
Only second hand maybe, and I don't trust second hand
yeah, thing is i already downloaded these but there are no keycaps, or i might be doing something wrong
same LMAOO
tho atm i wanna get a better pc case to fit a 280mm Radiator on the top
I should probably stop spending money on random bs so i can do this and also get a new gpu
It better be an ITX build and a Liquid Freezer III
I just bought this case a few years ago but its too small now since i got my arctic liquid freezer
😭
If answer is no to either you are doing something wrong, Takko 
i bought my aio before LQ III
like these?
LQII is fine too 
oh thanks!
its ass to fit in mid-tower cases
But is it an ITX build?
im on ATX
Oh thank god
If you are watercooling a fucking tower I'd be so pissed
Do not do watercooling jesus peeps
me too north gang
You can but Fractal North is not an ITX case now is it 
Fractal Terra?
That thing's ass
I remember when Terra launched the hype was so massive, all it took is to watch a single review, see the thing was hot as hell inside and the grills were making insane sounds that I went "nope" on
Got a Meshlicious instead
https://phanteks.com/product/eclipse-g500a-drgb-black/ i guess im just gonna stick to this pick of mine lmao
i need a tower case
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 8x 4.20GHz
32GB DDR5 RAM 6000 MHz Corsair RGB
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super - 12GB it this good for 1900?
im done with mid-tower cases
You are still getting scammed on the GPU, the CPU is fine though
If they sell you that without the GPU so you can just put in a 4070Ti Super yourself, go for it 
Though I bet the RAM sticks will be some low quality ones, case will be toasty, PSU low end cheap ass
okey
This is my.dream.caae but idk if it will launch ojtside of Japan
My parents PC is still in a 2005 case with a floppy port
Survived all these years the thing, even the red and green diodes still work just fine
I would normally not have considered this but it would be perfect for having my monitor on to raise it up to eye-level.
Nope.
CD drive though
my pc has right now a rtx2070 super and i7 9700k and a asus rog strix z370f , should i buy a new pc or just a new mb gpu and cpu
ye so i buy a new i guess
because this is 4years old
Depends on the rest of the components, what's your case like? What's the PSU? What's the SSD?
4 year PSU is still great, same with SSDs and cases
There are cases with oled displays?
where can i know that
Nowadays there are
By looking at your own computer rig
SSD you can figure out via sysinfo on your Windows
But case and PSU you will need to look into what you actually own right now
#🐸│memes ?
no his bed
So, memes then
idk i hate looking for pc cases 
if i dont look for a new pc case im not gonna be able to buy new gpu's at all
can we go back to smaller gpu size
Safe bet is Fractal Pop Air
Gamers Nexus do wonderful reviews
i want one pc case where i can put my 280mm rad on the top
I really like how the Fractal Era 2 looks. It was the one I wanted until the boomer case showed up.
Didn't GN review a case recently with just that
It was a bit expensive though
and Fractal Pop air is too small
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yeah i cant buy that case at all xd
Antec flux pro
im not spending 280 usd on a pc case
That one I also remember, got amazing reviews but price was big
Takko you looking specifically for ITX or any?
Try Fractal meshify 2
AGAIN FUCKING MID TOWER SHIT CASE
Fractal Torrent?
That'll become actually useful when Strix Halo launches and someone builds a handheld around it 
why didn’t valve think of this
i guess im just gonna stick with this shit case
they should’ve made the SD super chonky and shoved in water cooling
looks like i either just not gonna upgrade my pc or upgrade my case and my gpu
Why do you dislike Meshify 2?
It has more than one configuration
But it does?
yea the XL version but thats cost 255$
Some peeps sent this with a 360mm on top on the Meshify2
What's the hate with mid towers nowadays, they are nice and compact
I can't say I agree when you can just air cool

hey looking for some help with my keyboard would this be the right channel?
i guess im just kill my self
Are you doing some extreme overclocking or something
I hope you will not
yo Vex is 4070 Ti super and amd 7 78003xd good for 2300?
thanks!
im not doing OC
I then can't really understand why you went with a liquid cooler
You paid more than you should when you don't really need it
uhm it was cheaper than most of the air cooler that i wanted
Tbf it's Arctic and their AIOs are pretty cheap
I'd personally never buy an AIO just cause it's water
pick a cheaper air cooler then?
i cant sell the aio in the country
i could just throw it out to the trash at that point
Tbf isn't that what AIOs typically just do
Break and fuck up your PC so you throw the whole thing out 
if you already have aio, keep using whatever you have until it dies?
not like a case can really die...
so why change things now?
Would fit if your cpu was air cooled 
new gpus arent out yet, and the first gpus of the new gen are always reference which are generally smaller
thanks amazon what a deal
and why did the assholes at caseking crank it yet again
yesterday it was 589
prices for products that are out of stock dont matter
even last gen gpu dont fit in this case bc the thicc aio
Why wouldnt they if people keep buying, and yep I hate it too
and amazon is probably some 3rd party reseller
you can preorder it for this price
not on caseking true
theres always a model that will fit even if its a bit more than you currently are iwlling to pay
but $200 on a case or whatever is more than youd spend on getting a nicer smaller model
yeah all 2 fan models
okay not all 4080 super not
🤷 4090fe is 2 fan and it still wrecks shop
i dont need a 4090 cringe
its the hottest gpu that exists besides the 3090ti (same size) and 295x2 (smaller)
and i dont have 1500$+
Oh man I remember wanting tje 295x2.
since im confident you can fit it, you can fit whatever you want
cut a 3 fan card in half and its fit
or just get a more expensive 2 fan
so grab a reference version of whatever you were planning on getting
no one sells Reference cards in Hungary
You indeed can't get reference cards in Europe at all
Best "referenceish" are dual coolers and those don't exist on 4090 or I haven't seen them
whats the actual length limit of your case?
Asus Dual, ASRock Challenger all exist but for 4070s and 4080s
they already said they dont want 4090 tho
the reference pcb 7900xtx are rather long, but im confident theres something
whats the thickness of your rad?
Be Quiet makes excellent cases - Just steer clear of their gator toothed front panel models.
(I am not sure if Fractal Design is the same as Fractal lol)
7900XT has been at an all time low recently, 640 euros for cheapest one
I'm a sheep, but I love how my Lian Li Dynamic case works. Only real criticism I've ever had is the front LED bar using a weird connector that I never bothered figuring out - and that they put rivets in a few spots that should be screws (I have rectified that)
Difference isn't gigantic between XT and XTX
the Asus dual is the cheapest at 800$ or 750 euro
I see one for 689
not in hungary LOL
It's an international shop so.. bleh
yeah and if the card is bad warranty is a fucking nightmare
Fair
What's the cheapest ASUS Dual 7900 GRE or ASRock Challenger 7900GRE cost?
Those are actually rather small length wise, around 280iirc?
asus is 720 euro asrock is 640
Bleh it was 515 just a week ago
not in Hungary lol
Can always buy off Amazon
They don't mind getting ripped off if you just chargeback or send an empty box back 
Amazon is not a thing in Hungary
wait so you can put the radiator on top???
oh nvm i misread
if it was a 240 yeah
Amazon.de is a thing that ships EU-wide
i dont fucking care
Sigh, balkan issue
When you ask for reccs and people send you Amazon links 
Or worse, microcentre etc.
Microcenter is fuckin goated chill your cheeks
I can't order from them that's what I mean.
Don't they ship?
Not globally.
i can get a 4070 super for the same price as the 7900 GRE Challenger
Microcenter is only a thing in U.S and.. I think U.K
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Move it outside
GRE is better
I bet you can rig up something similar
Just get some wood or plastic and drill some holes
i can just throw the AIO to the trash
hunh that actually is pretty slim pickings
Choose A Video Card
its cools my cpu good enough
Asus Dual is, Asrock Challenger from what I've read has memory die overheating issues on the 7900GRE model at least
I would never go big 3 for amd cards
https://hu.pcpartpicker.com/product/bbDQzy/asus-proart-oc-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-proart-rtx4080s-o16g
this is the only 4080s that fits, and thats a super tight fit
zero 4080 or 4090
zero amd cards
for 1200 euro for sure
Just take out a loan
but not in my budget xd
Ez
what is your budget, include what you would otherwise have spent on a case or cooler
They said about buying a 7800XT, I can't imagine their budget is above 500
500 is essentially GRE if you are lucky, and the typical 7800XT
Nvidia is ass unless it's a non-Super leftover 4070
zero gre available on pcpp
in hungarian pesos pls im using pcpartpicker
Just get that damn Meshify 2 and it'll fit your AIO 
56 300
for gpu as well?
for gpu around 250 000
so 300k total if you dont buy a new case?
Is it really called pesos
Hungarian Forint
Kek
thats why HUF
600 euros is RX 7900 GRE on Amazon.de, 340mm length model though
And you won't have problems with support there 
80 100 its 205$/196euro
7900gre is like a 50% upgrade, is that enough?
I usually wait for 100% upgrade at around the same price
Meh I'd wait for Battlemage in a few weeks and then for CES
slang for anything not usd
Choose A Video Card
yea the selection isnt great
anything not US is mexico, that's actually funny
and i just want a gpu for better 1440p gaming
Unironically if Battlemage is going to be competing with 4070 Super for.. let's say 60% of the price, it'll be mega pog
350 euro card that does 1440p high gaming on Stalker 2 woo
AND it's 16GBs of VRAM so suck it Nvidia
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/webapp-manager/
Ooooo 💜
Yay this app is amazing
And I'm glad someone I recognize is maintaining it for Fedora
Lana that's a phishing attempt if I've ever seen one
Nah
But this is the main person behind Bazzite
Does that mean they are adding web apps to Bazzite????
It's been like that for at least 4 years
yea because everyone we traded with in the past were spanish colonies, peso isnt just mexico, its anything spanish that hasnt euroized yet
i would be happy with the 7800 xt performance overall as i dont care about ngreedia cards
What are 6800XT prices like
Get a second hand RDNA2 card if they are cheaper nowadays
i wanna get off RDNA2
https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-super-founders-edition/images/performance-matchup-rx-7800-xt.png
the best you can afford is 4070s
7800xt is the best available amd
4070S is fine as long as you understand that AAA gaming isn't happening in a year or two on 12GB of VRAM
Good features though 
i dont care about RT soo 
Just don't play on ultra
this is excluding rt
Also 4070S is priced the same as GRE, how are you not able to afford GRE but able to do Super
with rt its obvious
no gre available in hungary
Carm did you ever upgrade
nope
The wait continues
Yeah
thats the thing PCPP is not looking at all the Hungarian shops
bc there is a few GRE cards
I'm happy with my 4070ti super, unless there is a huge leap in perf. I can trade it back into microcenter
ah then thats probably your best option if its cheaper than a 4070s
I'm looking at one rn, something "arukereso"
https://youtu.be/RvbJU-BL1Es?si=nitP-2efZ4XxXNRP
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These designs might be catching on
Expensive tho, 260k Freedom Tokens
AMD prices are expensive, I'd get one of these
Asus DUAL RTX4070S-12G-EVO 249 290 <- 610 euro/640 usd from 2nd hand
When it comes to RTX I think virtually all of them would fit in your case
I don't think they are 3slots
isnt that the same price as new?
not for the asus model
Can't want to see PNY kingpin 5000 gpu next year
its 700$ for a new one
Bring back the black and copper
palit time then?
I can literally buy a 7900XT for that price 
yea well different markets
Balkans be having it hard
27% vat 
Lowest 7900xt at microcenter is a power color hellhound for 620
yeah welcome to Hungary
ASRock Phantom Gaming OC and stock XFX MERC here
ah yes i love going to places that need un buffer troops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_problem
The Cyprus problem, also known as the Cyprus conflict, Cyprus issue, Cyprus dispute, or Cyprus question, is an ongoing dispute between the Greek Cypriot and the Turkish Cypriot community in the north of the island, where troops of the Republic of Turkey are deployed. This dispute is an example of a protracted social conflict. The Cyprus dispute ...
Doesn't matter, Cyprus is a tax haven
its a tax haven for a reason
barbados etc are because they are expensive to get to, cyprus is because its disputed territory
Last I checked nothing has happened in Cyprus in several decades
yea because the un is keeping the groups fighting separated
Yes because Greece and Turkey are both NATO members and they will not fight each other
There's nothing to be gained from such conflict other than major losses for both sides in International scene
They always just poke at eachother, nothing will happen
the korean dmz has koreans manning it, cyprus has the un there...
It's like the China-india border
That shit is actually funny btw
They melee fight each other to avoid real warfare
That Sino-indian agreement to fight with sticks is incredible
except again china and india are having their own troops there not un peacekeeping forces
They just form stick walls and go ham battering eachother
It's almost like a fun pasttime
So basically un there so that Cyprus can exist
Or else it gets gobbled up
not really exist
its more, prevent the fighting
its a "proxy" war with greece and turkey
There's nothing really proxy about Greece and Turkey
Damn last gen hifiman are almost dirt cheap
Not that long ago I remember that Turkish jets flagged some Greek ones
They'll never fire though, it's been a good several decades since any actual incidents
Back when, you know, Bosnian war and such were actually happening
Edition xs is cheaper than the sundara
Edition XS is ridiculously cheap nowadays
It launched for what, 500? I've seen some for 200
Hifiman is just flooding the market with good planars
I'm kind of in the market for a good closed back
Fiio ft1
Was kind of looking into the.. what was it called.. Aura?
There's a weird company that makes some really interesting headphones
Aune it was
Basically the same bass as the ft1
Closed backs are just a lot more expensive for the good stuff nowadays
And not wonky treble
I hope I will not have to get another NDH20 that shit was horrid
ndh20 is the one example of good technical performance that isnt harman lol
Idk what NDH20s you are a talking about cause mine were horrible
It did nothing right
so you probably prefer harman like 99% of people
they are harman with 2 random peaks and -bass
That is not very harman
remember harman iem vs harman OE is very different
harman speaker is a perfectly flat line, and the closer it gets to your ears it transforms into what you see in iem
other thing is you can always fix preference with eq, but if the technical performance is bad you are stuck with it
Minor EQ (esp bass shelf) and this prolly sounds great.
I like that the way it is
Bass means very little to me, I specifically like my mids
my only gripe with the edition XS is comfort and build quality
but I guess that's what you get for that price
ngl it is kinda funny how I am just one good TPU print away from my "endgame" headphones
tho I might check out fiio FT3s at some point
was tempted on those linsoul deals 
Sounds about right
Impressions soon tm
hmmmm
🤔 how much better is this than the G305?
About -305
Nothing alike at all in shape, and all the other things don't matter that much
its rechargeable and has 1 fewer button
but its microusb still
its also noticeably lighter even if you use a lithium battery in the g305
Steam is updating a game on the SSD, why is it also spiking SD card usage too?!
probably steam being on c or something idk
not like it matters
usage of things unless there is some issue isnt particulary relevant or easy to follow
steam isnt telling me the disk usage either for some reason
I've had one for a couple of years now. If you've not used a lightweight mouse before, are they great? Yes. But are there now better options on the market? Definitely.
I use a Pulsar mouse now after the scrollwheel died.
Damn this is a steal
The flex in the plastic of the Superlight is not pleasant.
Got an Xlite V3, and it just feels better.
Despite being 7g lighter.
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That's a big boy 
I want that so badly
Amazon fucked up and sent me and extra set of ram

Someone must’ve doubled it to the next person then
Sell it i guess
Or give it to someone
Lucky. That will fetch some nice money.
Stupid? Maybe
Just for the 4080 to be like 4070 level
i got the same kit
the only difference is its the XMP variant
but it's otherwise identical
2x48GB DDR5-6000 30-36-36-76 1.4V 10ns
Ohhhhh ok I had asked that last time! Thank you 
4070-4060Ti ish, thermal constraints
any pc techs here ? 🙂
Just ask
Lmao, that's practically free money they sent you
96gb? 😮
I lucked out on that once, ordered a rode mic arm for 130$ and they didn't take the 4 individual mic arm boxes out of the manufacturer warehouse shipping box. Got all 4 lol
Jeff Bezos is gonna sue me
and I'm gonna lose
Amazingly it would be the one case he'd lose if your in canada or us
Most places, unsolicited gifts are considered yours
If it's not addressed to you, different story.
I might sell the ram sticks to my friend more than likely he lives in Canada so should be a lot cheaper
i got a free lamp once
Remember your friend will probably be charged taxes on em
even if it's a gift :C?
its all about the value of the item
awww
big lame
But sometimes they don't check
Tbh i'd just remove the corsair packaging
And just wrap the sticks in bubble wrap
And put a value under 60$ they likely won't check
Cuz that'd involve reading the sticker
And like... it being not in a commercial box will make it"used"
therefore less valuable
And then your friend doesn't get to pay taxes
very big brain Dashi
yes i just taught you how to game the system you are welcome
anyone had issue using NVidia control panel when on "manage my 3d settings" it gets very laggy
tried clean driver install and everything possible it would not fix it
Does hdr400 suck even on oled panels?
HDR400 is not real HDR.
Neither is HDR10.
The specifications are so low, that any odd panel can basically pass these, and you don't get the HDR effect at all.
It is the HDR equivalent of saying "yes my car has wheels"
isnt hdr10 a format for telling the screen how to do hdr?
I don’t think oleds can have that low hdr?
careful to not mix up hdr400 true black if that’s the thing advertised on it
everything on a oled is hdr 
Huh, I am on DisplayHDR True Black if that's something about HDR
HDR10 just means it is 10 bit color I think
nvm
also includes extra metadata for brightness etc which compatible displays use to tune the image themselves
similar to dolby vision for example
I mean they can
they just have to be rather dim
though imo it is more about contrast than peak brightness so naming it by peak brightness is kinda stupid
@ashen spindle https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1h04daf/samsung_990_pro_vs_silicon_power_gen4x4_nvme/
Do you think the Silicon Power SSDs are as reliable as Sammy ones?
Prolly Kioxia flash?
US75 2TB is like 50$ cheaper here over Samsung lol, also cheaper than WDs SN850X, new go-to maybe?
I better hope they are more reliable
samsung ones are kinda known for bad reliabilty atm
My Sammy ones are of the older gen and I don't think those are as bad
New ones do have a bit of a reputation though
Which memory manufacturer is the "best" nowadays anyways, Micron? Kioxia? Samsung?
Iirc everyone went crazy for Micron but that was a few years back
nm790 also uses TLC from YMTC
Ah, a mainland China manufacturer
Meh, was promising, no DRAM and potential reliability issues is a dealbreaker
I suppose SN850X remains the go-to drive even if it had some kind of problems a year or two back
Guys what do you think about the framework laptops compared to MacBook Pros?
I support Framework and their mission.
They are more expensive than other options (not sure about vs Apple) but in my opinion if it's an option in your budget, you should do it
Framework breaks
Order part from the company, replace, works
MacBook breaks
Either buy new or pay almost the same in repairs

or replacement part doesnt work and framework doesnt wanna send another one without you spending months on emailing back and forth
enough horror stories of it departments and individuals who had massive issues with framework spare parts stuff
To be fair if we send a replacement PCBA to someone and it doesn't resolve their problem, we're not going to send another replacement PCBA without some seriously deep investigation
yeah but framework cheaped out on some known issues like camera modules being broken on arrival not just once (and they are only a few euros so not a big investment)
Framework
- repairable
- upgradable, including the CPU and display
- Windows or Linux
- Less powerful and battery efficient
MacBook
- basically need to buy a new one if it breaks
- can't upgrade the hardware, not even ram and storage
- stuck with 256gb storage unless you spend an extra $200 for 512gb
- MacOS
- more powerful with longer battery life
Framework is a smarter long term investment since when it's time to upgrade you just buy the new motherboard CPU combo and swap it in
If you don't care about keeping the laptop longer than 3 years then it doesn't matter, I guess
Yeh
I guess so
Just a pretty short term purchase though
It won't last like 5 years cause if it breaks that's it
Macs usually last quite long
cant speak about that as my 3 yr old mbp is fine and works fine ¯_(ツ)_/¯
idk how youd break it really
But you got to handle it normal
How much MacOS updates do they get now?
makes no difference for that afaik
Ok
So it's a random chance
whatever apple feels like
i mean even if youre on a slightly outdated macos its not immediately dead
And you can use that patcher to get newer versions working too if you are techy enough
Or hope Asahi Linux is much more stable once you wanna swap to it
bruh, my laptop was fked, contacted warraty support and did hrs and hrs of figuring out the issue including a 7.5 hr scan of the laptop, the day before the guy is supposed to come to my place physically fix it, my laptop fixes it self


lol
support guy won't care from my experience
drill through it quick
i mean having seend some of the on site support people... yes
they dont even know their own products lol
@bright briar @magic minnow SCRAFT CHRISTMAS COLLECTION LIVE!!!!
Whats better Iqunix ez 60 or wooting 60he?
the investment has been made, the blood pact sealed
Idk what that is ;3;
So cute
very cute caos
That psyduck one is so cute too
i love the mew and eevee, but i could only spare myself one pick
had to go the eevee
Link me these are amazing
I know just for whom I'd get these
they're in-stock so you gotta be quick!
https://www.s-craft.studio/shop/in-stock
Fawking $220
for the pokefans no cost is too high
think those are long gone, they dont really do restock batches from what i gathered
Oh my apologies, the site didn't show the "sold out" thing for me
y

Why are they sideways??
Photogenic
You use your computer from the fucking center/middle, not from side right

Also isn't this literally illegal?
Infringing on Nintendo's property with no permission from original rights holders?
And also selling it for monetary gain?
They have a license from what i gather
fan art and fan made products is always a bit of a crazy area
dont know what the exact rules are
Fan made products are within the legal area if they are "free"
With Nintendo crazy is an understatement 
That goes within fair use laws
think technically nintendo can sue, but going after all the artists that make pokemon stuff, they rather go after the bigger things
This is literally just sold to you, that's not fair use nor legal unless they hold a license
If there is a license then cool, but I still don't understand why the keycaps are sideways 
Either keyboard usually for me in the center or a bit off to the left, so id be able to see the friends
Ultimate gamer isn't a pokemon fan either though

Those are very different audiences
Bleh, if I wanted to get that I'd rather buy a printer and some resin for that price and DIY a whole set
No flareon ):
Ultimate gamers minmax stats, pokemon players do that lots
They already did that 
And i missed it
I don't care if they get sued over it, as long as I get my order 😛
Dont think so?
I know theyve done flareon, jolteon, umbreon (normal and shiny)
And eevee a few times now
meanwhile me
Kirby hungry
from last clackycon... only 200eur total i believe
or 150 or so
i dont remember if it was 30 or 40 per cap
Mad60he?
Why's it.. mad?
As a customer of Wooting I'll tell you that for good support you should buy a Wooting
If you care about performance and longevity, no.
If your most important consideration is price and you don't mind throwing it away in half a year when it breaks, sure I guess?
Elsewhere your warranty will be fucked, no feature support
If you bought a Wooting Two in let's say.. in 2016, you are still getting feature support even today, 8 years later
You pay less but how much do your value features, reliability, customer service
out of any server you ask this question in, you ask this in the wooting server...
Idk I don't think Wooting is even that much overpriced for how much you get from the product, keyboards aren't a yearly purchase, you buy it for like.. 8 years lol
Wootings have great reliability and if anything goes wrong, support will help you
They have taken every possible shortcut they can find to offer a ridiculous price. That has consequences...
Support is honestly incredible
Wooting has good faith, and that's hard to come by
Which model, 80?
no lad dont buy mad
That's a bit expensive, you can always try to minimize costs by buying the module and sourcing everything else yourself
Module isn't that damn expensive
price is definitely up there, but ur definitely getting your money's worth
Get the module, some random "case", idk what they are called, Gateron Jade switches since everyone loves them, rando keycaps and you have a great keeb
the support, firmware, software and community is just incomparable to any other keyboard company
uh that doesnt sound right
^
How am I as your neighbour paying less
? what
Brother, you are doing something wrong
What converter are you using? Just use Google one
It's tied to live currency exchanges
yea 170 usd is equal to about 160 eur
It's 155 eur or 166 USD from what I'm seeing
In Lithuania or "Litwa" I'm paying the same
For the 45 remaining euros I think it's doable to either buy Wooting's offerings of switches and everything, or DIY the rest
If you want to have it break in a year and have no customer support, go for it
What you in theory save is arbitrary until it breaks and you have to buy a new one 
Then it's "damn I wish I bought a wooting"
you're better off just using a cheap normal mechanical keyboard that'll last longer until you can afford a wooting
Or that
I've been using a Keychron V6
It's.. really nice to type on
And I don't particularly care for features like SOCD or Rapid Trigger
Unironically though, Keychron is kinda goated 
And their HE boards have volume knobs... come on Wooting give us the knob
I don't care if it's a knob or a slider, give us those haptic mechanics
Wooting numpad with a knob would get all the 80he and 60he buyers
Programmable touch display that controls your whole PC on the keyboard would be so.. omegapog
Though that'd be also extremely expensive
They already have those, just not bolted on a keyboard
Indeed, and it'd be nice if it was bolted where the function keys are
Damn, my nas is coming Saturday but my hard drives on Dec 3rd.
how possible is it that double-shot PBT keycaps can develop a significant shine within 1 month of use? 60he+
Acidic skin sweat
or it can be bad quality PBT keycaps
I've been told that I have acidic skin sweat, but my abs set from PBTFans doesnt get shine until like 4 month of use
Razer tried and it sucked. The screen would fail first and cause the board to stop working lol
This abomination lol
I still have one sitting in my closet
eww haha

I can feel the mush from here
I cant enter bios on my wooting
Laptop keys, a proprietary software nobody wanted to design things for, and backlighting that you could see the clear strips of. And it retailed for like 300$. I bought mine from a mac user that updates his tech every 5 months and just buys the most expensive thing he can get his hands on, so he resold this boi for 70$ cad lol.
this has not been an issue in the past i know that for sure
for some reason my bios is in legacy mode and i cant install faceit anticheat and i cant access bios either because my keyboard doesnt register any button press during boot
i couldnt find a way to do so in the 5 minutes i tried
doing some weird cmd command did nothing since i got some message about not having admin perms (?)
recovery options
i played with those and didnt find the option
i got a blue screen with options from f1-10 with f10 being more options and any key press didnt do anything, even press enter to exit did nothing
maybe some issue with typing profiles or wootility itself
cant be wootility
no more likely that you just kept spamming the key and thus it didnt have time to calibrate so it didnt register as a key press
calibration could be it
but as I said just restart from windows into it via the option
this seems difficult
restart now, then advanced options or smth then bios and it reboots into bios
thats it
I say we bring back this
This was the worst era
i received my wooting 60he today but when i plug it in my headset mic (from steelseries) stops working and the other way around (when my headset mic works my keyboard doesnt). ive tried all the possible fixes but idk nothing seems to work. does anyone have experience with this?
2000s "futuristic" trash was just.. the worst, all plastic e-waste out of the box, works terribly, no reliability
I can feel the cheap hollowness of this keyboard.
Indeed t'was a shit era
I found this keyboard on Ebay, but I cant find any info about it on the wooting website.
I tried the 60HE+ at my friend´s house and i fw it, but I wanna get a 100% keyboard, I was gonna get the Wooting two HE, but I saw this one which looks better, does it have the same features and switches as the two or whats the difference?
its the same as the 2HE on the website but with custom keycaps as this is when Lekker swithces where debuted
got it got it, so does the 2he come with lekker switches?
yes
Yes
the colorful lekker edition is just how they made the first 1000 from the fundraiser to get it started
so its more of a collectible than a good keyboard right?
if i was to buy any it should be the 2he
This is literally a 2he
its the same so whatever you prefer
just with different stuff
Just with different keycaps on
but didnt it have the first gen of lekker switches?
Keycaps are replacable
and now theres more
2he still has the 1st gen
To this day
okk
so just re colored with the same features
yh
Yep
The switches?
It's literally just a 2he
should i just treat the 2HE as the same as this one like is there 0 differences appart from asthetic
Yes
okokoko
It's all the same
Least modable, but I love it
the lekker edition was a normal 2he, just limited edition for being the first 1000 units people pre ordered to get the development funded
https://wooting.io/wooting-two-he the one that u looking at is the same as this but with custom keycaps
okkk got it
the thing is i want all those sick features of the 60HE I tried at my friends house but
i hate non 100% keyboards
is there any downside to the 2he?
they perform exactly the same
yh ik i just
and have all the same features
The only thing you'll be missing is 8k polling which you physically can't feel
like the numpad, alr i see
the 60he doesn’t have 8k
well if all keyboards are using the same designs for switches etc then they all the same
apart from layout
Thing works well and is built well imo
ya should be fine
I find the build quality is great, it's one of the few plastic keyboards I can barely flex
so whats actually new on the others then apart from the layout?
the biggest thing is that iirc the warranty is 2 years on the 2he and 4 years on every other wooting keyboard
ah shit i see
its the only 100% tho right?
Gasket mounting for the 80HE makes a pretty large difference in sound and feel
the 80he is gasket mount, so better sound imo
plus it has a led bar which is cool
yh i imagine
oh and more likely to get cases
i was tryna build a custom keyboard but i just liked the wooting features 2 much, and i want a 100% so idk
60 and 80 both have a bunch of available mods. There's nothing aside from switches/caps for the upgrade path on the 2he, so if you want improvements in sound or feel, it's all on you find stuff.
wym cases
not sure if they have a 2he custom case planned
Well you can still do mods like tape mod, or filling the interior with duck feathers
but the 60he and the 80he has options if u want to upgrade
nooo, not mansen
There are no custom cases available for the W2HE, and we aren't planning on making one
For sure, just nothing like straps/board specific cases.
LOL?
There's a German company who was prototyping a custom aluminum case for the W2HE but the price would be upwards of 300 euros and I haven't heard from them in probably six months, if not longer
I've searched long and hard for third party 2he cases and I'm pretty convinced it's a fully untapped market lol
so ig the 2HE has no customization and worse sound, is that it? do the other keyboards use the same analog switches?
I wouldn't say 2he is worse, just different
i mean bro the sound test they put on this sounds crazy
https://wooting.io/wooting-80he
Center of the board sounds a bit more hollow, but I slapped on jades on mine and I'm unironically addicted to the sound of typing now
Same switches
wym jades?
ok sorry but what is this lekker v1 v2 shit then, which keyboards have the latest, do they all?
Gateron jade switches. I think everyone is going for the geon raws now because they sound similar and are designed a bit better.
W2HE comes with Lekker v1.5 switches which are almost as good as Lekker V2s but made by a different manufacturer
i see
80he is the only one with v2s rn afaik. the 60he and 2he come with v1.5s which arent too far off from v2s.
so u can put any switches on the keyboards and they would still work? thought only lekker would be compatible
alr alr
Nope, there's a good chunk of compatible he switches for this board. I dont have the list that I see get posted now and then on hand.
alr got u
this?
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Bless your soul
alright my fellow discord peeps
im going to pick up my 9800x3d today
just debating what mobo to get either x870 asus rog strix, x870 msi tomahawk or msi mag b650 tomahawk
i heard asrock b650 is a good mobo too
but duck me bro mobo are so expensive nowadays
B650m hdv if it has enough slots for your needs
Yes but don’t need to overpay for boards that had things you never use
measly 180$ diff
that could be my ram right there
B650m hdv should be like 100
since i gotta buy new ram as well
RAM is cheap rn
@bright briar discounted x670e
Supports AMD Socket AM5 Ryzen™ 7000 Series Processors 8+2+1 Power Phase, Dr.MOS Supports DDR5 6400+ MHz (OC) 2 PCIe 4.0 x16, 1 PCIe 4.0 x1, 1 M.2 Key E for WiFi Integrated AMD RDNA™ 2 Graphics* Graphics Output Options: HDMI, DisplayPort Realtek ALC897 7.1 CH HD Audio Codec, Nahimic Audio 4 SATA3,...
this one?
Damn that’s expensive even for cad prices
Rip that was suppose to be like 50% cheaper lol
with the b650 tomahawk i can also update the bios no problem if msi has the software to support 9800x3d
wut
@bright briar
It’s literally the same shit you miss out on nothing
been there done that
fk asus
this was only true between 8th and 9th gen intel where the power usage went up 100w
every single time ive had a system in the past
No like literally there isn’t anything that zen6 if it comes to am5 could bring that doesn’t work on these boards
It can handle CPU’s with more powerdraw than the socket supports
i should probably give up on the all white pc build. Fucking so hard to find white parts at a good price
during zen 2-3 u could get zen 3 cpu zen 2 board and it was limited feature set for ages, like no SAM etc
Its always something
You could get stuff like the original boards not having enough memory to support all cpus at once but that’s about it
ah yes a feature that only took an extra year to come out and you could enable by setting the old bios setting that just hadnt been renamed yet
great example
Not really
now that amd is getting more and more competent, their old boards are getting pretty timely updates
That was equally mostly due to board makers not putting much into first gen amd boards since they wouldn’t know how much they can recover
Asus didnt evne bother to update my sandy bridge bios afte 1-2 year it launched
had to do some bios modding myself
to get new microcode
Why is that relevant from last decade
JUST SAYING
No that’s not an example
na its my opinion dont cheap out on mobos
what brand is the better choice for mobo? Asrock and msi? i heard mix reviews on gigabyte
higher $$ mobo get frequent updates
Every brand is good and shit, gotta look at the individual boards
anyone ever had the problem of BT audio being low volume on android? I tried disabling absolute volume and A2DP hardware offload. the first makes no difference in volume, the second renders the sound nonexistent
yueah good luck extrapolating into the future, let me pull up crystal :kekew:
does anyone knows why my 80he can not delet or esc?
i been researching and some people have comment about asrock b650e taichi lite being good. But i guess i'll research more and i'll look at the mobo dashi sent me too
high price is a leading indicator of higher future bios update frequency
i'll just pick up the cpu for today if anything since theres shit sales for black friday over here
B650e taichi lite
maybe i'll catch a break on boxing day
Endgame mobo for mid tier price
what about it
found it, poweramp had a headroom of 6dB set, maybe it's by default or maybe I set it myself and forgot. volume is better now. not as high as on linux, but now I can listen to metal on my $30 cans at least
i just took apart my old old pc and if i were to describe it in one word: "molex"
any molex to 6pin
i didnt check the 6pin but it certainly couldve been
help when i press my one key it comes up as this ;;;;;;;;;
now it doesnt work completly
guys I think my 4 years old AirPods Pro is giving up on me
I charged it yesterday
Used it once
Now the case is dead
I mean i thought of buying the gen 2 when it came out
I’m waiting for the gen 3 now
I thought it gonna last longer
I ain’t replacing nothing, it’s glued in. Apple doesn’t even replace it’s battery
Yeah, but ngl it have been the longest lasting and most consistent modern tech product I ever own
I dropped it like a million times
Got the case in the washing machine like 30 times at least
And it still works
So like I ain’t complaining that it’s dying after 4 years
Meh I have replaced my other pair of earbuds (I keep two cuz it’s a pain trying to use it with multiple devices that’s not Apple) I’ve use WF-1000XM3 it have connection issues so I buy the XM4 when it came out, my XM4 case broke so I bought the Pixel Buds Pro
But I’m still using the same pair of AirPods Pro since I bought it late 2020
I bought a second pair of budsd2 pros, I like them and the 3s that came out recently were so much uglier so I just got another pair
my first pair are still fine after about a year, but one of the buds lasts a little bit shorter than the other, but that isn't much of a problem when I have two pairs
*and I also work in a factory full of metal dust
for x870 boards my ram shouldnt be more than 6000mhz right?
im looking for 32gb (2x16)
Crucial or g.skill make some good ram
Corsair is also good
All the same...
What matters is the specs/timings
It's 6000 for 7XXX processor but I think you can go a little bit more for 9XXX
The price is not
You can but you won't get much scaling
how much more
yeah i have corsair now and i like it
but been looking at team group and gskill
🤷
I wouldn't, save some money instead
just use pcpartpicker or whatever price comparison site, filter 6000cl30 and get the cheapest
thats fair
i guess i should look up the ram list for my mobo
or at this point all ram works as long as its ddr5 with 6000mhz
6000cl30 works basically on all combinations
No need to
QVL is a joke
okay thx
and for my power supply i have fully modular 850w gold i should be fine right? Till i upgrade my gpu
Whats your current gpu
3080 12gb
i read "fully modded psu"
And yeah an 850 should power whayever's out there
asus rog strix
Not a problem
Also for mobo as i said earlier
B650 or x670e dont spend your money on an x8** they're overpriced to shit
If you need the extra features that the x670e boards have go for that i sent you a good deal earlier, if you don't then go b650
foir the price memory express is offering
for their bundle
its a $50 difference between the x870 and a b650 mobo
Becausw it's a stupid idea
Are you gonna use the x870 features
.....yes....
for that small of a price difference, its gotta be a low tier x870 and at least a midrange b650
name one
nah just fucked canadian prices
installing m.2
pain

the hdv which should be like 100$ is like 80% there it seems
the two i was comparing is msi b650 tomahawk and x870 msi pro
skill issue, also im pretty sure x870 and b650 have the same pcie lanes
i told you canada sucks
I went for an x670e cuz i wanted a fuck ton of usb ports, 4 nvmes at once because i'm insane
Yep
Literally won't gain anything
Unless he goes x670e
x870e is the one that adds more, but its only matching x670e not better
and im pretty sure x670 non e has more than x870 non e
You literally lose features for the sake of usb 4
Literally x670e is better
And yes i know i'm a storage cray cray but still my point stands
well also x870 is price adjusted for inflation
gpu lanes on b650 are pcie4 x870 is gen5
no they arent because they dont have a pcie5 gpu
the slots are and blackwell is most likely gen5 on consumer too
i will be upgrading to 5090 or 5080 next year
why are you buying things now?
Cuz he's hoping to get a deal on mobo/ram
For his shiny new 9800x3d
$80 off
$ off is lies
im also giving my current build to my little cousin to game on (eventually)
no reason to waste money on it
Updated my oled to a semi glossy one thanks to my plan 
be careful
i had the aw2725df and the auto brightness fatigued my eyes too quickly
and returned that shit
I stay woled





