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twin anchor
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you're hungarian too???????

cursive summit
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Though prices seemed to have swelled up, 2 weeks ago 7900GRE was 515 euros, now it's back to 570

steady sail
steady sail
cursive summit
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Expecting RDNA3 to get cheaper due to RDNA4 is wishful thinking

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RDNA2 is still priced the same as RDNA3 even when RDNA4 is about to launch

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Only second hand maybe, and I don't trust second hand

twin anchor
twin anchor
steady sail
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tho atm i wanna get a better pc case to fit a 280mm Radiator on the top

rough patrol
cursive summit
rough patrol
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I just bought this case a few years ago but its too small now since i got my arctic liquid freezer

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😭

cursive summit
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If answer is no to either you are doing something wrong, Takko havo

steady sail
twin anchor
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like these?

cursive summit
steady sail
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waaay before

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yeah LQII 280mm

twin anchor
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oh thanks!

steady sail
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its ass to fit in mid-tower cases

cursive summit
steady sail
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im on ATX

cursive summit
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Oh thank god

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If you are watercooling a fucking tower I'd be so pissed

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Do not do watercooling jesus peeps

analog sinew
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me too north gang

cursive summit
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Watercooling is an ITX only solution lol

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Where space actually matters

steady sail
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I hate this case btw xd

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BeQuiet 500DX

cursive summit
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You can but Fractal North is not an ITX case now is it havo

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Fractal Terra?

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That thing's ass

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I remember when Terra launched the hype was so massive, all it took is to watch a single review, see the thing was hot as hell inside and the grills were making insane sounds that I went "nope" on

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Got a Meshlicious instead

steady sail
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i need a tower case

tiny tree
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AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 8x 4.20GHz
32GB DDR5 RAM 6000 MHz Corsair RGB
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super - 12GB it this good for 1900?

steady sail
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im done with mid-tower cases

cursive summit
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If they sell you that without the GPU so you can just put in a 4070Ti Super yourself, go for it havo

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Though I bet the RAM sticks will be some low quality ones, case will be toasty, PSU low end cheap ass

distant tapir
tiny tree
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okey

distant tapir
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This is my.dream.caae but idk if it will launch ojtside of Japan

cursive summit
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My parents PC is still in a 2005 case with a floppy port

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Survived all these years the thing, even the red and green diodes still work just fine

distant tapir
cursive summit
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where's the oled miniled display?

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FTFY

distant tapir
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I would normally not have considered this but it would be perfect for having my monitor on to raise it up to eye-level.

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Nope.

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CD drive though

tiny tree
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my pc has right now a rtx2070 super and i7 9700k and a asus rog strix z370f , should i buy a new pc or just a new mb gpu and cpu

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ye so i buy a new i guess

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because this is 4years old

cursive summit
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4 year PSU is still great, same with SSDs and cases

distant tapir
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There are cases with oled displays?

cursive summit
cursive summit
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SSD you can figure out via sysinfo on your Windows

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But case and PSU you will need to look into what you actually own right now

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#🐸│memes ?

analog sinew
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no his bed

cursive summit
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So, memes then

steady sail
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idk i hate looking for pc cases Life

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if i dont look for a new pc case im not gonna be able to buy new gpu's at all

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can we go back to smaller gpu size

cursive summit
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Gamers Nexus do wonderful reviews

steady sail
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i want one pc case where i can put my 280mm rad on the top

distant tapir
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I really like how the Fractal Era 2 looks. It was the one I wanted until the boomer case showed up.

cursive summit
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It was a bit expensive though

steady sail
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and Fractal Pop air is too small

cursive summit
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Liquid Cooling Support Top: 280 / 360 / 420 mm (Thickness: 65mm, not overlapping with RAM)

steady sail
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yeah i cant buy that case at all xd

gusty kiln
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Antec flux pro

steady sail
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im not spending 280 usd on a pc case

cursive summit
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Takko you looking specifically for ITX or any?

steady sail
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ATX

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but i have a 280mm rad AIO

cursive summit
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Try Fractal meshify 2

steady sail
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AGAIN FUCKING MID TOWER SHIT CASE

cursive summit
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Meshify 2 has.. many configurations

distant tapir
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Fractal Torrent?

analog sinew
cursive summit
marsh pewter
steady sail
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i guess im just gonna stick with this shit case

marsh pewter
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they should’ve made the SD super chonky and shoved in water cooling

steady sail
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looks like i either just not gonna upgrade my pc or upgrade my case and my gpu

cursive summit
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Why do you dislike Meshify 2?

steady sail
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its a mid-tower case

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and doesnt support TOP 280mm

cursive summit
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It has more than one configuration

cursive summit
steady sail
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yea the XL version but thats cost 255$

cursive summit
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Some peeps sent this with a 360mm on top on the Meshify2

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What's the hate with mid towers nowadays, they are nice and compact

steady sail
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This shit

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mid-towers are fucking awful

cursive summit
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I can't say I agree when you can just air cool

steady sail
dire cloak
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hey looking for some help with my keyboard would this be the right channel?

steady sail
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i guess im just kill my self

cursive summit
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Are you doing some extreme overclocking or something

cursive summit
tiny tree
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yo Vex is 4070 Ti super and amd 7 78003xd good for 2300?

dire cloak
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thanks!

steady sail
cursive summit
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I then can't really understand why you went with a liquid cooler

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You paid more than you should when you don't really need it

steady sail
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uhm it was cheaper than most of the air cooler that i wanted

cursive summit
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Tbf it's Arctic and their AIOs are pretty cheap

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I'd personally never buy an AIO just cause it's water

astral haven
steady sail
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i cant sell the aio in the country

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i could just throw it out to the trash at that point

cursive summit
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Tbf isn't that what AIOs typically just do

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Break and fuck up your PC so you throw the whole thing out havo

astral haven
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if you already have aio, keep using whatever you have until it dies?

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not like a case can really die...

steady sail
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i mean cpu wise im not wanna upgrade till am6

astral haven
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so why change things now?

steady sail
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i want a GPU change not CPU

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but 90% of cards cant fit in a mid-tower case

gloomy linden
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Would fit if your cpu was air cooled dogekek

astral haven
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new gpus arent out yet, and the first gpus of the new gen are always reference which are generally smaller

analog sinew
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thanks amazon what a deal

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and why did the assholes at caseking crank it yet again

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yesterday it was 589

ashen spindle
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prices for products that are out of stock dont matter

steady sail
gloomy linden
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Why wouldnt they if people keep buying, and yep I hate it too

ashen spindle
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and amazon is probably some 3rd party reseller

analog sinew
ashen spindle
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no?

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you can set a reminder but not pre order on caseking atm

analog sinew
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not on caseking true

astral haven
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but $200 on a case or whatever is more than youd spend on getting a nicer smaller model

steady sail
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okay not all 4080 super not

astral haven
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🤷 4090fe is 2 fan and it still wrecks shop

steady sail
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i dont need a 4090 cringe

astral haven
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its the hottest gpu that exists besides the 3090ti (same size) and 295x2 (smaller)

steady sail
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and i dont have 1500$+

distant tapir
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Oh man I remember wanting tje 295x2.

astral haven
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since im confident you can fit it, you can fit whatever you want

steady sail
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NOTED cut a 3 fan card in half and its fit

astral haven
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or just get a more expensive 2 fan

steady sail
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the 4090FE from 2nd hand is 1700$

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i dont need a top notch gpu

astral haven
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so grab a reference version of whatever you were planning on getting

steady sail
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no one sells Reference cards in Hungary

astral haven
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so go refrenceish

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even the refrenceish cards are relatively small

cursive summit
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You indeed can't get reference cards in Europe at all

steady sail
cursive summit
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Best "referenceish" are dual coolers and those don't exist on 4090 or I haven't seen them

astral haven
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whats the actual length limit of your case?

cursive summit
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Asus Dual, ASRock Challenger all exist but for 4070s and 4080s

astral haven
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the reference pcb 7900xtx are rather long, but im confident theres something

steady sail
cursive summit
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ASUS DUAL 7900XTX does exist

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Though it's as long as a normal card

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2.8 slot

astral haven
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whats the thickness of your rad?

reef patrol
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Be Quiet makes excellent cases - Just steer clear of their gator toothed front panel models.

cursive summit
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Nowadays I kinda have "brand loyalty" to Fractal

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Cases are great, PSUs are great

steady sail
cursive summit
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(I am not sure if Fractal Design is the same as Fractal lol)

steady sail
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1200$

cursive summit
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7900XT has been at an all time low recently, 640 euros for cheapest one

reef patrol
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I'm a sheep, but I love how my Lian Li Dynamic case works. Only real criticism I've ever had is the front LED bar using a weird connector that I never bothered figuring out - and that they put rivets in a few spots that should be screws (I have rectified that)

cursive summit
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Difference isn't gigantic between XT and XTX

steady sail
cursive summit
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I see one for 689

steady sail
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not in hungary LOL

cursive summit
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It's an international shop so.. bleh

steady sail
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yeah and if the card is bad warranty is a fucking nightmare

cursive summit
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Fair

steady sail
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im not gonna look at shops outside of Hungary

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only inside the country

cursive summit
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What's the cheapest ASUS Dual 7900 GRE or ASRock Challenger 7900GRE cost?

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Those are actually rather small length wise, around 280iirc?

steady sail
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asus is 720 euro asrock is 640

cursive summit
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Bleh it was 515 just a week ago

steady sail
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not in Hungary lol

cursive summit
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Can always buy off Amazon

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They don't mind getting ripped off if you just chargeback or send an empty box back havo

steady sail
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Amazon is not a thing in Hungary

astral haven
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oh nvm i misread

steady sail
cursive summit
steady sail
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i dont fucking care

cursive summit
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Sigh, balkan issue

steady sail
distant tapir
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When you ask for reccs and people send you Amazon links soydespair

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Or worse, microcentre etc.

cursive summit
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Microcenter is fuckin goated chill your cheeks

steady sail
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the cheapest 4070 ti super is 906 euro

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from a 2nd hand seller in Hungary

cursive summit
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4070 Ti Super is not a thing in EU

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The pricing is insane

distant tapir
cursive summit
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Don't they ship?

distant tapir
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Not globally.

cursive summit
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Heh

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Who are you asking for advise if they are giving you microcenter links

steady sail
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i can get a 4070 super for the same price as the 7900 GRE Challenger

cursive summit
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Microcenter is only a thing in U.S and.. I think U.K

gusty kiln
gusty kiln
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I bet you can rig up something similar

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Just get some wood or plastic and drill some holes

steady sail
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i can just throw the AIO to the trash

cursive summit
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Do that and just get a Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin havo

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AIOs are so ass

astral haven
gusty kiln
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Asus dual is pretty decent

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My friend have the 4070 super version

cursive summit
gusty kiln
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I would never go big 3 for amd cards

astral haven
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zero 4080 or 4090

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zero amd cards

steady sail
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for 1200 euro for sure

cursive summit
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Just take out a loan

steady sail
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but not in my budget xd

cursive summit
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Ez

astral haven
cursive summit
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They said about buying a 7800XT, I can't imagine their budget is above 500

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500 is essentially GRE if you are lucky, and the typical 7800XT

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Nvidia is ass unless it's a non-Super leftover 4070

astral haven
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zero gre available on pcpp

steady sail
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the case around 140$

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without cooler

astral haven
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in hungarian pesos pls im using pcpartpicker

cursive summit
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Just get that damn Meshify 2 and it'll fit your AIO havo

steady sail
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56 300

astral haven
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for gpu as well?

steady sail
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for gpu around 250 000

astral haven
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so 300k total if you dont buy a new case?

steady sail
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yeah kinda

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but i would sell my 6700 xt and the BQ 500DX case

gusty kiln
steady sail
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Hungarian Forint

gusty kiln
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Kek

steady sail
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thats why HUF

cursive summit
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600 euros is RX 7900 GRE on Amazon.de, 340mm length model though

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And you won't have problems with support there havo

gusty kiln
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7900gre is like a 50% upgrade, is that enough?

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I usually wait for 100% upgrade at around the same price

cursive summit
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Meh I'd wait for Battlemage in a few weeks and then for CES

gusty kiln
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Battlemage is going up be such encoding beast

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And sometimes gaming

steady sail
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i dont wanna cry bc of intel gpu's

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soo i skip that thanks

smoky frigate
steady sail
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and i just want a gpu for better 1440p gaming

cursive summit
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Unironically if Battlemage is going to be competing with 4070 Super for.. let's say 60% of the price, it'll be mega pog

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350 euro card that does 1440p high gaming on Stalker 2 woo

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AND it's 16GBs of VRAM so suck it Nvidia

wheat plume
cursive summit
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Lana that's a phishing attempt if I've ever seen one

steady sail
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ah yes random Lana post

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we love it :3

wheat plume
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Nah
But this is the main person behind Bazzite
Does that mean they are adding web apps to Bazzite????

cursive summit
astral haven
steady sail
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i would be happy with the 7800 xt performance overall as i dont care about ngreedia cards

cursive summit
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What are 6800XT prices like

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Get a second hand RDNA2 card if they are cheaper nowadays

steady sail
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i wanna get off RDNA2

astral haven
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7800xt is the best available amd

cursive summit
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4070S is fine as long as you understand that AAA gaming isn't happening in a year or two on 12GB of VRAM

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Good features though havo

steady sail
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i dont care about RT soo shrug

gusty kiln
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Just don't play on ultra

astral haven
cursive summit
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Also 4070S is priced the same as GRE, how are you not able to afford GRE but able to do Super

astral haven
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with rt its obvious

gusty kiln
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Carm did you ever upgrade

astral haven
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nope

gusty kiln
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The wait continues

astral haven
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yep

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50 series looking gud

gusty kiln
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Yeah

steady sail
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thats the thing PCPP is not looking at all the Hungarian shops

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bc there is a few GRE cards

gusty kiln
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I'm happy with my 4070ti super, unless there is a huge leap in perf. I can trade it back into microcenter

astral haven
cursive summit
sudden imp
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▶ Play video
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These designs might be catching on

cursive summit
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Expensive tho, 260k Freedom Tokens

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AMD prices are expensive, I'd get one of these

steady sail
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Asus DUAL RTX4070S-12G-EVO 249 290 <- 610 euro/640 usd from 2nd hand

cursive summit
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When it comes to RTX I think virtually all of them would fit in your case

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I don't think they are 3slots

astral haven
steady sail
gusty kiln
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Can't want to see PNY kingpin 5000 gpu next year

astral haven
steady sail
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its 700$ for a new one

gusty kiln
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Bring back the black and copper

astral haven
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palit time then?

cursive summit
astral haven
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yea well different markets

cursive summit
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Balkans be having it hard

steady sail
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27% vat YEP

cursive summit
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Wtf just go to Cyprus, you are like not far from it

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0% VAT pepe_yes

astral haven
gusty kiln
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Lowest 7900xt at microcenter is a power color hellhound for 620

steady sail
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yeah welcome to Hungary

cursive summit
astral haven
# cursive summit Wtf just go to Cyprus, you are like not far from it

ah yes i love going to places that need un buffer troops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_problem

The Cyprus problem, also known as the Cyprus conflict, Cyprus issue, Cyprus dispute, or Cyprus question, is an ongoing dispute between the Greek Cypriot and the Turkish Cypriot community in the north of the island, where troops of the Republic of Turkey are deployed. This dispute is an example of a protracted social conflict. The Cyprus dispute ...

cursive summit
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Doesn't matter, Cyprus is a tax haven

astral haven
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its a tax haven for a reason

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barbados etc are because they are expensive to get to, cyprus is because its disputed territory

cursive summit
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Last I checked nothing has happened in Cyprus in several decades

astral haven
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yea because the un is keeping the groups fighting separated

cursive summit
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Yes because Greece and Turkey are both NATO members and they will not fight each other

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There's nothing to be gained from such conflict other than major losses for both sides in International scene

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They always just poke at eachother, nothing will happen

astral haven
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the korean dmz has koreans manning it, cyprus has the un there...

gusty kiln
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It's like the China-india border

cursive summit
gusty kiln
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They melee fight each other to avoid real warfare

cursive summit
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That Sino-indian agreement to fight with sticks is incredible

astral haven
cursive summit
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They just form stick walls and go ham battering eachother

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It's almost like a fun pasttime

gusty kiln
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Or else it gets gobbled up

astral haven
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not really exist

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its more, prevent the fighting

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its a "proxy" war with greece and turkey

cursive summit
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There's nothing really proxy about Greece and Turkey

astral haven
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yea...

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the greek cypriots do want their own nation tho

gusty kiln
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Damn last gen hifiman are almost dirt cheap

cursive summit
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Not that long ago I remember that Turkish jets flagged some Greek ones

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They'll never fire though, it's been a good several decades since any actual incidents

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Back when, you know, Bosnian war and such were actually happening

gusty kiln
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Edition xs is cheaper than the sundara

cursive summit
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Edition XS is ridiculously cheap nowadays

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It launched for what, 500? I've seen some for 200

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Hifiman is just flooding the market with good planars

gusty kiln
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I've been looking at the Nan-7

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A weird he-6/susvara clone

cursive summit
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I'm kind of in the market for a good closed back

gusty kiln
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Fiio ft1

cursive summit
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Was kind of looking into the.. what was it called.. Aura?

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There's a weird company that makes some really interesting headphones

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Aune it was

gusty kiln
cursive summit
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I don't like Harman, I do neutral with a tiny bass shelf

gusty kiln
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Ehhhhhh

cursive summit
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That looks good to me

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Price is a bit oof though

gusty kiln
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Basically the same bass as the ft1

cursive summit
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Closed backs are just a lot more expensive for the good stuff nowadays

gusty kiln
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And not wonky treble

cursive summit
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I hope I will not have to get another NDH20 that shit was horrid

astral haven
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ndh20 is the one example of good technical performance that isnt harman lol

cursive summit
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Idk what NDH20s you are a talking about cause mine were horrible

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It did nothing right

astral haven
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so you probably prefer harman like 99% of people

cursive summit
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I'm a K702 enjoyer

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Which is neutral from what I remember

astral haven
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they are harman with 2 random peaks and -bass

cursive summit
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That is not very harman

astral haven
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remember harman iem vs harman OE is very different

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harman speaker is a perfectly flat line, and the closer it gets to your ears it transforms into what you see in iem

gusty kiln
astral haven
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other thing is you can always fix preference with eq, but if the technical performance is bad you are stuck with it

distant tapir
cursive summit
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Bass means very little to me, I specifically like my mids

lyric hatch
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my only gripe with the edition XS is comfort and build quality

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but I guess that's what you get for that price

old marlin
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seentoomuch ngl it is kinda funny how I am just one good TPU print away from my "endgame" headphones

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tho I might check out fiio FT3s at some point

astral haven
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@gusty kiln
Hopefully it's legit 🤞

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about $130 before tax for the r2r? hype

lyric hatch
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was tempted on those linsoul deals pepe_business

gusty kiln
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Impressions soon tm

pale sigil
wheat plume
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🤔 how much better is this than the G305?

lyric hatch
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About -305

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Nothing alike at all in shape, and all the other things don't matter that much

astral haven
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its rechargeable and has 1 fewer button
but its microusb still

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its also noticeably lighter even if you use a lithium battery in the g305

wheat plume
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Steam is updating a game on the SSD, why is it also spiking SD card usage too?!

ashen spindle
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because something is reading from it

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or writing idk it doesnt show

wheat plume
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there shouldnt be anything using the SD card rn

ashen spindle
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probably steam being on c or something idk

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not like it matters

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usage of things unless there is some issue isnt particulary relevant or easy to follow

wheat plume
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steam isnt telling me the disk usage either for some reason

hoary jackal
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Instead get op1 8k and a monitor pungee

proper warren
# pale sigil hmmmm

I've had one for a couple of years now. If you've not used a lightweight mouse before, are they great? Yes. But are there now better options on the market? Definitely.

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I use a Pulsar mouse now after the scrollwheel died.

magic minnow
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Damn this is a steal

proper warren
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The flex in the plastic of the Superlight is not pleasant.

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Got an Xlite V3, and it just feels better.

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Despite being 7g lighter.

magic minnow
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balmy vector
lyric hatch
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That's a big boy fatt

balmy vector
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I want that so badly

magic minnow
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Amazon fucked up and sent me and extra set of ram

balmy vector
sudden imp
unkempt lake
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Or give it to someone

distant tapir
tribal dirge
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Stupid? Maybe

verbal nimbus
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Just for the 4080 to be like 4070 level

trim crane
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the only difference is its the XMP variant

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but it's otherwise identical

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2x48GB DDR5-6000 30-36-36-76 1.4V 10ns

magic minnow
trim crane
idle kettle
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any pc techs here ? 🙂

halcyon moss
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Just ask

deft raptor
halcyon moss
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96gb? 😮

scenic thunder
magic minnow
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reallyb___ch and I'm gonna lose

scenic thunder
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Amazingly it would be the one case he'd lose if your in canada or us

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Most places, unsolicited gifts are considered yours

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If it's not addressed to you, different story.

magic minnow
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I might sell the ram sticks to my friend more than likely he lives in Canada so should be a lot cheaper

unkempt lake
magic minnow
unkempt lake
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its all about the value of the item

magic minnow
unkempt lake
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Gifts only qualify under 60$

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Under 60 its tax free

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No checks by customs

magic minnow
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big lame

unkempt lake
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But sometimes they don't check

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Tbh i'd just remove the corsair packaging

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And just wrap the sticks in bubble wrap

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And put a value under 60$ they likely won't check

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Cuz that'd involve reading the sticker

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And like... it being not in a commercial box will make it"used"

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therefore less valuable

#

And then your friend doesn't get to pay taxes

magic minnow
unkempt lake
#

yes i just taught you how to game the system you are welcome

idle kettle
#

anyone had issue using NVidia control panel when on "manage my 3d settings" it gets very laggy

#

tried clean driver install and everything possible it would not fix it

compact relic
#

Does hdr400 suck even on oled panels?

reef patrol
#

HDR400 is not real HDR.
Neither is HDR10.

#

The specifications are so low, that any odd panel can basically pass these, and you don't get the HDR effect at all.

#

It is the HDR equivalent of saying "yes my car has wheels"

halcyon moss
#

isnt hdr10 a format for telling the screen how to do hdr?

ashen spindle
#

I don’t think oleds can have that low hdr?

#

careful to not mix up hdr400 true black if that’s the thing advertised on it

rough osprey
#

everything on a oled is hdr ReallyInnocent

deft raptor
#

Huh, I am on DisplayHDR True Black if that's something about HDR

old marlin
#

nvm

#

also includes extra metadata for brightness etc which compatible displays use to tune the image themselves

#

similar to dolby vision for example

old marlin
#

they just have to be rather dim

#

though imo it is more about contrast than peak brightness so naming it by peak brightness is kinda stupid

cursive summit
#

Do you think the Silicon Power SSDs are as reliable as Sammy ones?

#

Prolly Kioxia flash?

#

US75 2TB is like 50$ cheaper here over Samsung lol, also cheaper than WDs SN850X, new go-to maybe?

old marlin
#

samsung ones are kinda known for bad reliabilty atm

cursive summit
#

My Sammy ones are of the older gen and I don't think those are as bad

#

New ones do have a bit of a reputation though

#

Which memory manufacturer is the "best" nowadays anyways, Micron? Kioxia? Samsung?

#

Iirc everyone went crazy for Micron but that was a few years back

old marlin
#

solidigm afaik

#

lexar nm790 also is often recommended nowadays

cursive summit
#

US75 has no DRAM and TLC from some company called YMTC

#

That's rather sad

cursive summit
#

Ah, a mainland China manufacturer

#

Meh, was promising, no DRAM and potential reliability issues is a dealbreaker

#

I suppose SN850X remains the go-to drive even if it had some kind of problems a year or two back

mossy prawn
#

Guys what do you think about the framework laptops compared to MacBook Pros?

marsh glade
#

I support Framework and their mission.
They are more expensive than other options (not sure about vs Apple) but in my opinion if it's an option in your budget, you should do it

umbral heron
#

Framework breaks
Order part from the company, replace, works

MacBook breaks
Either buy new or pay almost the same in repairs hanaSit

reef patrol
fair gull
#

enough horror stories of it departments and individuals who had massive issues with framework spare parts stuff

marsh glade
#

To be fair if we send a replacement PCBA to someone and it doesn't resolve their problem, we're not going to send another replacement PCBA without some seriously deep investigation

fair gull
#

yeah but framework cheaped out on some known issues like camera modules being broken on arrival not just once (and they are only a few euros so not a big investment)

wheat plume
#

Framework is a smarter long term investment since when it's time to upgrade you just buy the new motherboard CPU combo and swap it in
If you don't care about keeping the laptop longer than 3 years then it doesn't matter, I guess

fair gull
#

for some people its macos

#

id prefer using a macbook at work over anything else really

wheat plume
#

Yeh
I guess so
Just a pretty short term purchase though
It won't last like 5 years cause if it breaks that's it

halcyon moss
#

Macs usually last quite long

fair gull
#

cant speak about that as my 3 yr old mbp is fine and works fine ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

idk how youd break it really

halcyon moss
#

But you got to handle it normal

wheat plume
#

How much MacOS updates do they get now?

fair gull
#

7yrs

#

thats an average not a promise

wheat plume
#

For all models or just Pro Max and Ultra?

#

Ah.... Rip

fair gull
#

all mac models on average

#

so some get 6 some 8

old marlin
wheat plume
#

Ok
So it's a random chance

old marlin
#

whatever apple feels like

fair gull
#

i mean even if youre on a slightly outdated macos its not immediately dead

wheat plume
#

And you can use that patcher to get newer versions working too if you are techy enough

#

Or hope Asahi Linux is much more stable once you wanna swap to it

alpine patio
#

bruh, my laptop was fked, contacted warraty support and did hrs and hrs of figuring out the issue including a 7.5 hr scan of the laptop, the day before the guy is supposed to come to my place physically fix it, my laptop fixes it self

old marlin
fair gull
#

lol

old marlin
#

support guy won't care from my experience

fair gull
#

drill through it quick

alpine patio
#

dogekek i have 4 projects due tmr

#

i cant

fair gull
#

they dont even know their own products lol

balmy vector
#

@bright briar @magic minnow SCRAFT CHRISTMAS COLLECTION LIVE!!!!

brave walrus
#

Whats better Iqunix ez 60 or wooting 60he?

balmy vector
balmy vector
magic minnow
balmy vector
#

i love the mew and eevee, but i could only spare myself one pick

#

had to go the eevee

marsh glade
#

I know just for whom I'd get these

balmy vector
marsh glade
#

Fawking $220

balmy vector
#

for the pokefans no cost is too high

jovial ivy
balmy vector
#

think those are long gone, they dont really do restock batches from what i gathered

jovial ivy
#

Oh my apologies, the site didn't show the "sold out" thing for me

marsh glade
balmy vector
#

Whoever gets that is one lucky sob

marsh glade
balmy vector
#

Photogenic

cursive summit
#

You use your computer from the fucking center/middle, not from side right

bold coyote
cursive summit
#

Also isn't this literally illegal?

#

Infringing on Nintendo's property with no permission from original rights holders?

#

And also selling it for monetary gain?

balmy vector
bold coyote
#

fan art and fan made products is always a bit of a crazy area

#

dont know what the exact rules are

cursive summit
#

Fan made products are within the legal area if they are "free"

umbral heron
#

With Nintendo crazy is an understatement hanaSit

cursive summit
#

That goes within fair use laws

bold coyote
#

think technically nintendo can sue, but going after all the artists that make pokemon stuff, they rather go after the bigger things

cursive summit
#

This is literally just sold to you, that's not fair use nor legal unless they hold a license

balmy vector
cursive summit
#

If there is a license then cool, but I still don't understand why the keycaps are sideways havo

balmy vector
#

Either keyboard usually for me in the center or a bit off to the left, so id be able to see the friends

bold coyote
#

dont think too much about it

balmy vector
#

No think, just cute pokemon keycaps

cursive summit
#

Ultimate gamer isn't a pokemon fan either though

bold coyote
cursive summit
#

Those are very different audiences

#

Bleh, if I wanted to get that I'd rather buy a printer and some resin for that price and DIY a whole set

balmy vector
#

Ultimate gamers minmax stats, pokemon players do that lots

bold coyote
#

thats like every card tournament

#

its stinky

balmy vector
unkempt lake
marsh glade
#

I don't care if they get sued over it, as long as I get my order 😛

balmy vector
#

Dont think so?

#

I know theyve done flareon, jolteon, umbreon (normal and shiny)

#

And eevee a few times now

fair gull
balmy vector
#

Kirby hungry

fair gull
#

from last clackycon... only 200eur total i believe

#

or 150 or so

#

i dont remember if it was 30 or 40 per cap

cursive summit
#

Mad60he?

#

Why's it.. mad?

#

As a customer of Wooting I'll tell you that for good support you should buy a Wooting

marsh glade
#

If you care about performance and longevity, no.
If your most important consideration is price and you don't mind throwing it away in half a year when it breaks, sure I guess?

cursive summit
#

Elsewhere your warranty will be fucked, no feature support

#

If you bought a Wooting Two in let's say.. in 2016, you are still getting feature support even today, 8 years later

#

You pay less but how much do your value features, reliability, customer service

final flame
#

out of any server you ask this question in, you ask this in the wooting server...

cursive summit
#

Idk I don't think Wooting is even that much overpriced for how much you get from the product, keyboards aren't a yearly purchase, you buy it for like.. 8 years lol

#

Wootings have great reliability and if anything goes wrong, support will help you

marsh glade
#

They have taken every possible shortcut they can find to offer a ridiculous price. That has consequences...

cursive summit
#

Support is honestly incredible

#

Wooting has good faith, and that's hard to come by

#

Which model, 80?

mortal grove
#

no lad dont buy mad

cursive summit
#

That's a bit expensive, you can always try to minimize costs by buying the module and sourcing everything else yourself

#

Module isn't that damn expensive

mortal grove
cursive summit
#

Get the module, some random "case", idk what they are called, Gateron Jade switches since everyone loves them, rando keycaps and you have a great keeb

mortal grove
#

the support, firmware, software and community is just incomparable to any other keyboard company

#

uh that doesnt sound right

cursive summit
#

PBoks what do you mean 230 bucks to Poland, I live in Litwa

mortal grove
#

^

cursive summit
#

How am I as your neighbour paying less

#

? what

#

Brother, you are doing something wrong

cursive summit
#

What converter are you using? Just use Google one

#

It's tied to live currency exchanges

mortal grove
#

yea 170 usd is equal to about 160 eur

cursive summit
#

It's 155 eur or 166 USD from what I'm seeing

#

In Lithuania or "Litwa" I'm paying the same

#

For the 45 remaining euros I think it's doable to either buy Wooting's offerings of switches and everything, or DIY the rest

#

If you want to have it break in a year and have no customer support, go for it

#

What you in theory save is arbitrary until it breaks and you have to buy a new one havo

#

Then it's "damn I wish I bought a wooting"

final flame
#

you're better off just using a cheap normal mechanical keyboard that'll last longer until you can afford a wooting

cursive summit
#

I've been using a Keychron V6

#

It's.. really nice to type on

#

And I don't particularly care for features like SOCD or Rapid Trigger

#

Unironically though, Keychron is kinda goated havo

#

And their HE boards have volume knobs... come on Wooting give us the knob

#

I don't care if it's a knob or a slider, give us those haptic mechanics

gusty kiln
#

Wooting numpad with a knob would get all the 80he and 60he buyers

cursive summit
#

Programmable touch display that controls your whole PC on the keyboard would be so.. omegapog

#

Though that'd be also extremely expensive

gusty kiln
#

They already have those, just not bolted on a keyboard

cursive summit
#

Indeed, and it'd be nice if it was bolted where the function keys are

gusty kiln
#

Damn, my nas is coming Saturday but my hard drives on Dec 3rd.

oblique solstice
#

how possible is it that double-shot PBT keycaps can develop a significant shine within 1 month of use? 60he+

gusty kiln
#

Acidic skin sweat

charred nexus
#

or it can be bad quality PBT keycaps

#

I've been told that I have acidic skin sweat, but my abs set from PBTFans doesnt get shine until like 4 month of use

scenic thunder
#

This abomination lol

#

I still have one sitting in my closet

analog sinew
#

eww haha

bold coyote
gusty kiln
devout raptor
#

I cant enter bios on my wooting

scenic thunder
#

Laptop keys, a proprietary software nobody wanted to design things for, and backlighting that you could see the clear strips of. And it retailed for like 300$. I bought mine from a mac user that updates his tech every 5 months and just buys the most expensive thing he can get his hands on, so he resold this boi for 70$ cad lol.

devout raptor
#

this has not been an issue in the past i know that for sure

#

for some reason my bios is in legacy mode and i cant install faceit anticheat and i cant access bios either because my keyboard doesnt register any button press during boot

ashen spindle
#

Just restart from windows directly into bios

#

Don’t need to spam buttons

devout raptor
#

doing some weird cmd command did nothing since i got some message about not having admin perms (?)

analog sinew
devout raptor
analog sinew
#

advanced settings or sth

#

and there it is

ashen spindle
devout raptor
#

maybe some issue with typing profiles or wootility itself

analog sinew
#

cant be wootility

ashen spindle
#

no more likely that you just kept spamming the key and thus it didnt have time to calibrate so it didnt register as a key press

analog sinew
#

calibration could be it

ashen spindle
#

but as I said just restart from windows into it via the option

devout raptor
#

this seems difficult

ashen spindle
#

restart now, then advanced options or smth then bios and it reboots into bios

#

thats it

unkempt lake
cursive summit
reef lichen
#

i received my wooting 60he today but when i plug it in my headset mic (from steelseries) stops working and the other way around (when my headset mic works my keyboard doesnt). ive tried all the possible fixes but idk nothing seems to work. does anyone have experience with this?

cursive summit
#

2000s "futuristic" trash was just.. the worst, all plastic e-waste out of the box, works terribly, no reliability

distant tapir
unkempt lake
cursive summit
#

Indeed t'was a shit era

dark venture
#

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296834706082?_skw=wooting&itmmeta=01JDMNZ355TQVTJP5Y1J20Y94H&hash=item451cba2aa2:g:A-cAAOSwElBnQfRM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKnw1cZBwtmnzHtlkVPZWLtKdAdFOYIqZLHkUEwMmDeKzF0Olp%2Fpwf9Ls5z8NwtepNOMy5Y7%2FsPA0%2F7AcA6d5tTXA%2Fe1QryqGrUHB77nTbZJYVFtOiRf9OqbvUCxbl4jQkGxpAm%2BhPkyRAf4BJ9cZFQkgrlGK5qebJ%2BEm1nzzqJzgrVtL2QSY3URzrFCqAyQrw6wbBfZnJcXKkmG4Qr9ghSvyWj5sTHc4XoRWrO3YxebVg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9Sy_JXtZA

I found this keyboard on Ebay, but I cant find any info about it on the wooting website.
I tried the 60HE+ at my friend´s house and i fw it, but I wanna get a 100% keyboard, I was gonna get the Wooting two HE, but I saw this one which looks better, does it have the same features and switches as the two or whats the difference?

steady sail
dark venture
ashen spindle
#

yes

ashen spindle
#

the colorful lekker edition is just how they made the first 1000 from the fundraiser to get it started

dark venture
#

so its more of a collectible than a good keyboard right?

#

if i was to buy any it should be the 2he

unkempt lake
ashen spindle
#

its the same so whatever you prefer

dark venture
unkempt lake
#

Just with different keycaps on

dark venture
#

but didnt it have the first gen of lekker switches?

unkempt lake
#

Keycaps are replacable

dark venture
#

and now theres more

unkempt lake
#

To this day

dark venture
#

okk

unkempt lake
#

You can replace them if you want they're hotswappable

#

Same with the keycaps

dark venture
#

so just re colored with the same features

unkempt lake
#

Yep

dark venture
#

alr alr

#

is it somewhere on the website?

#

or is it just the 2HE section

unkempt lake
#

The switches?

dark venture
#

the keyboard itself

#

yk how each keyboard has info in the website

unkempt lake
dark venture
#

should i just treat the 2HE as the same as this one like is there 0 differences appart from asthetic

unkempt lake
#

Yes

dark venture
#

okokoko

unkempt lake
#

It's all the same

scenic thunder
ashen spindle
#

the lekker edition was a normal 2he, just limited edition for being the first 1000 units people pre ordered to get the development funded

steady sail
dark venture
#

okkk got it

#

the thing is i want all those sick features of the 60HE I tried at my friends house but

#

i hate non 100% keyboards

#

is there any downside to the 2he?

marsh pewter
#

they perform exactly the same

dark venture
#

yh ik i just

marsh pewter
#

and have all the same features

scenic thunder
#

The only thing you'll be missing is 8k polling which you physically can't feel

dark venture
#

like the numpad, alr i see

alpine patio
#

as in build quality

dark venture
# alpine patio old

well if all keyboards are using the same designs for switches etc then they all the same

#

apart from layout

unkempt lake
alpine patio
#

ya should be fine

scenic thunder
#

I find the build quality is great, it's one of the few plastic keyboards I can barely flex

dark venture
#

so whats actually new on the others then apart from the layout?

marsh pewter
dark venture
#

its the only 100% tho right?

marsh glade
alpine patio
#

plus it has a led bar which is cool

dark venture
#

yh i imagine

alpine patio
#

oh and more likely to get cases

dark venture
#

i was tryna build a custom keyboard but i just liked the wooting features 2 much, and i want a 100% so idk

scenic thunder
#

60 and 80 both have a bunch of available mods. There's nothing aside from switches/caps for the upgrade path on the 2he, so if you want improvements in sound or feel, it's all on you find stuff.

dark venture
alpine patio
marsh glade
alpine patio
#

but the 60he and the 80he has options if u want to upgrade

steady sail
#

nooo, not mansen

marsh glade
#

There are no custom cases available for the W2HE, and we aren't planning on making one

scenic thunder
marsh glade
#

There's a German company who was prototyping a custom aluminum case for the W2HE but the price would be upwards of 300 euros and I haven't heard from them in probably six months, if not longer

scenic thunder
#

I've searched long and hard for third party 2he cases and I'm pretty convinced it's a fully untapped market lol

dark venture
#

so ig the 2HE has no customization and worse sound, is that it? do the other keyboards use the same analog switches?

scenic thunder
#

I wouldn't say 2he is worse, just different

dark venture
scenic thunder
#

Center of the board sounds a bit more hollow, but I slapped on jades on mine and I'm unironically addicted to the sound of typing now

marsh glade
#

Same switches

dark venture
scenic thunder
#

Gateron jade switches. I think everyone is going for the geon raws now because they sound similar and are designed a bit better.

marsh glade
#

W2HE comes with Lekker v1.5 switches which are almost as good as Lekker V2s but made by a different manufacturer

marsh pewter
dark venture
scenic thunder
#

Nope, there's a good chunk of compatible he switches for this board. I dont have the list that I see get posted now and then on hand.

noble drum
#

'

scenic thunder
bright briar
#

alright my fellow discord peeps

#

im going to pick up my 9800x3d today

#

just debating what mobo to get either x870 asus rog strix, x870 msi tomahawk or msi mag b650 tomahawk

#

i heard asrock b650 is a good mobo too

#

but duck me bro mobo are so expensive nowadays

ashen spindle
#

B650m hdv if it has enough slots for your needs

fickle ore
#

if u get newest cpu u get newest board

#

no other way about it

ashen spindle
#

Yes but don’t need to overpay for boards that had things you never use

bright briar
#

for example b650 msi tomahawk is $239 and the x870 msi tomahawk is $419

fickle ore
#

measly 180$ diff

bright briar
#

that could be my ram right there

ashen spindle
#

B650m hdv should be like 100

bright briar
#

since i gotta buy new ram as well

fickle ore
#

RAM is cheap rn

unkempt lake
#

@bright briar discounted x670e

bright briar
#

this one?

ashen spindle
#

Damn that’s expensive even for cad prices

#

Rip that was suppose to be like 50% cheaper lol

bright briar
fickle ore
#

until it doesnt

#

u never cheap out on old mobos with new gen cpus

astral haven
#

wut

unkempt lake
#

@bright briar

bright briar
ashen spindle
fickle ore
#

been there done that

fickle ore
#

fk asus

astral haven
fickle ore
ashen spindle
#

No like literally there isn’t anything that zen6 if it comes to am5 could bring that doesn’t work on these boards

#

It can handle CPU’s with more powerdraw than the socket supports

bright briar
#

i should probably give up on the all white pc build. Fucking so hard to find white parts at a good price

fickle ore
#

Its always something

ashen spindle
#

You could get stuff like the original boards not having enough memory to support all cpus at once but that’s about it

astral haven
#

ah yes a feature that only took an extra year to come out and you could enable by setting the old bios setting that just hadnt been renamed yet
great example

fickle ore
#

I mean its also delayed bioses etc

#

if u can wait thats fine ig

ashen spindle
#

Not really

astral haven
#

now that amd is getting more and more competent, their old boards are getting pretty timely updates

ashen spindle
#

That was equally mostly due to board makers not putting much into first gen amd boards since they wouldn’t know how much they can recover

fickle ore
#

Asus didnt evne bother to update my sandy bridge bios afte 1-2 year it launched

#

had to do some bios modding myself

#

to get new microcode

ashen spindle
#

Why is that relevant from last decade

fickle ore
#

JUST SAYING

ashen spindle
#

No that’s not an example

fickle ore
#

na its my opinion dont cheap out on mobos

bright briar
#

what brand is the better choice for mobo? Asrock and msi? i heard mix reviews on gigabyte

fickle ore
#

higher $$ mobo get frequent updates

ashen spindle
#

Every brand is good and shit, gotta look at the individual boards

smoky frigate
#

anyone ever had the problem of BT audio being low volume on android? I tried disabling absolute volume and A2DP hardware offload. the first makes no difference in volume, the second renders the sound nonexistent

fickle ore
knotty lodge
#

does anyone knows why my 80he can not delet or esc?

bright briar
fickle ore
#

high price is a leading indicator of higher future bios update frequency

ashen spindle
#

LOL no

#

Higher price means nothing for that

bright briar
#

i'll just pick up the cpu for today if anything since theres shit sales for black friday over here

gusty kiln
#

B650e taichi lite

bright briar
#

maybe i'll catch a break on boxing day

gusty kiln
#

Endgame mobo for mid tier price

bright briar
gusty kiln
#

Hey that

#

Get

smoky frigate
analog sinew
#

i just took apart my old old pc and if i were to describe it in one word: "molex"

analog sinew
#

i didnt check the 6pin but it certainly couldve been

outer fractal
#

help when i press my one key it comes up as this ;;;;;;;;;

#

now it doesnt work completly

charred nexus
#

guys I think my 4 years old AirPods Pro is giving up on me

#

I charged it yesterday

#

Used it once

#

Now the case is dead

#

I mean i thought of buying the gen 2 when it came out

#

I’m waiting for the gen 3 now

#

I thought it gonna last longer

#

I ain’t replacing nothing, it’s glued in. Apple doesn’t even replace it’s battery

#

Yeah, but ngl it have been the longest lasting and most consistent modern tech product I ever own

#

I dropped it like a million times

#

Got the case in the washing machine like 30 times at least

#

And it still works

#

So like I ain’t complaining that it’s dying after 4 years

#

Meh I have replaced my other pair of earbuds (I keep two cuz it’s a pain trying to use it with multiple devices that’s not Apple) I’ve use WF-1000XM3 it have connection issues so I buy the XM4 when it came out, my XM4 case broke so I bought the Pixel Buds Pro

#

But I’m still using the same pair of AirPods Pro since I bought it late 2020

leaden kiln
#

I bought a second pair of budsd2 pros, I like them and the 3s that came out recently were so much uglier so I just got another pair
my first pair are still fine after about a year, but one of the buds lasts a little bit shorter than the other, but that isn't much of a problem when I have two pairs

leaden kiln
bright briar
#

for x870 boards my ram shouldnt be more than 6000mhz right?

#

im looking for 32gb (2x16)

gusty nexus
unkempt lake
#

What matters is the specs/timings

gusty nexus
gusty nexus
unkempt lake
ashen spindle
#

no its the same

#

exact same IO die

unkempt lake
#

^^^^

#

Team group gskill corsair its all the same just go with what's cheapest

bright briar
#

yeah i have corsair now and i like it

#

but been looking at team group and gskill

gusty nexus
unkempt lake
ashen spindle
#

just use pcpartpicker or whatever price comparison site, filter 6000cl30 and get the cheapest

bright briar
#

thats fair

#

i guess i should look up the ram list for my mobo

#

or at this point all ram works as long as its ddr5 with 6000mhz

ashen spindle
#

6000cl30 works basically on all combinations

unkempt lake
#

QVL is a joke

bright briar
#

okay thx

unkempt lake
#

Like it's bare minimum stability testing

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Just "does it boot yes no"

bright briar
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and for my power supply i have fully modular 850w gold i should be fine right? Till i upgrade my gpu

unkempt lake
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Whats your current gpu

bright briar
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3080 12gb

analog sinew
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i read "fully modded psu"

unkempt lake
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And yeah an 850 should power whayever's out there

bright briar
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asus rog strix

unkempt lake
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Not a problem

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Also for mobo as i said earlier

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B650 or x670e dont spend your money on an x8** they're overpriced to shit

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If you need the extra features that the x670e boards have go for that i sent you a good deal earlier, if you don't then go b650

analog sinew
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dont let dashi know

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she threatened me in dms if i buy x870

bright briar
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for their bundle

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its a $50 difference between the x870 and a b650 mobo

unkempt lake
unkempt lake
bright briar
astral haven
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for that small of a price difference, its gotta be a low tier x870 and at least a midrange b650

astral haven
ashen spindle
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nah just fucked canadian prices

bright briar
astral haven
bright briar
ashen spindle
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the hdv which should be like 100$ is like 80% there it seems

bright briar
astral haven
bright briar
unkempt lake
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I went for an x670e cuz i wanted a fuck ton of usb ports, 4 nvmes at once because i'm insane

unkempt lake
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Literally won't gain anything

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Unless he goes x670e

astral haven
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x870e is the one that adds more, but its only matching x670e not better

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and im pretty sure x670 non e has more than x870 non e

unkempt lake
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Literally x670e is better

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And yes i know i'm a storage cray cray but still my point stands

astral haven
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well also x870 is price adjusted for inflation

ashen spindle
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gpu lanes on b650 are pcie4 x870 is gen5

astral haven
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no they arent because they dont have a pcie5 gpu

ashen spindle
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the slots are and blackwell is most likely gen5 on consumer too

bright briar
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i will be upgrading to 5090 or 5080 next year

astral haven
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why are you buying things now?

unkempt lake
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For his shiny new 9800x3d

bright briar
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$80 off

astral haven
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$ off is lies

bright briar
astral haven
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no reason to waste money on it

balmy vector
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Updated my oled to a semi glossy one thanks to my plan CalderHappy

bright briar
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be careful

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i had the aw2725df and the auto brightness fatigued my eyes too quickly

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and returned that shit

balmy vector
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I stay woled