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[unkempt lake]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-completely-sold-out-in-europe-pre-orders-sell-out-incoming-shipments-before-they-hit-shelves

I dont remember there being availability issues with the 7800x3d

[ashen spindle]

there were

[smoky frigate]

everyone and their grandma bought them

[open ruin]

it's just scalpers

[ashen spindle]

nope

[unkempt lake]

Talking about scalpers

[ashen spindle]

took a good hour or so for it to sell

[unkempt lake]

I'm annoyed at myself

Newest pokemon card set i was like used to not having it go out of stock instantly

Anymore cuz scalper era has been over for some time now. I saw it in stock i was like oh i'll buy it later and then 3 hours later out of stock fully and it hasn't restocked since

):

How dare i have a life

[distant tapir]

Not sold out for me.

[shell temple]

Hello Team Red. I just bought a Ryzen 9800x3D today and im moving from my old intel 10900k. I need help with finding the FASTEST (best framerate, and affordable, kind of) memory. This is the MOBO I bought today: https://a.co/d/gbmE8Em . If I understand correctly, lowest CL and highest memorys speeds the best for framerate. I was looking at this memory: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820374614 but I wanted to get more than 32gb so a totally of 64gb. Will my CL still be 28 if I use more or what? I really dont know I would assume so but not sure.

I am trying to make the best framerate computer possible

[ashen spindle]

if you want more than 32 grab a pack of 2x24gb

[shell temple]

this memory does come in 64 pack

[ashen spindle]

yes but 24gb sticks are easier to run

[shell temple]

really? compare to what 16gb?

2 16gbs

[ashen spindle]

compared to 2x32

[shell temple]

oh those were 16gb

[ashen spindle]

you do not ever want to run 4 sticks for gaming

[unkempt lake]

2x32 single rank is easy to run

[ashen spindle]

doesnt change that 2x24 is easier

[shell temple]

why is this?

does that apply for intel cpus as well?

[ashen spindle]

because you will only get much lower memory clocks wioth 4 sticks on any board

[shell temple]

i have 4 in my intel build now lol

[ashen spindle]

yes

[unkempt lake]

Ddr4 was easy to run on 4 sticks

Ddr5 aint

[shell temple]

oh yeah i have DDR4 actually as well

[ashen spindle]

easier, still lower than 2 sticks even on ddr4

[shell temple]

well i also want the lowest latency

[unkempt lake]

All depends on your IMC

[shell temple]

can someone recommend what would be a good low latency memory. when i made this intel build, i wasn't to concern (because if i remember at the time it was a couple fps)

I mean if I get 2 32gb wouldnt the latency be high though

at 6000?

I guess, idk recommend me something

[ashen spindle]

get any ram kit that is DDR5-6000CL30 on 2x24gb thats the easiest if you just want more than 32 total

[umbral heron]

For AMD? Just stick 6000CL30 and you're good to go

[shell temple]

why would I want to get 6000CL30 when 6000CL28 is out and buyable

[umbral heron]

Any 2 stick kits should work with no issues

[ashen spindle]

its not though

[unkempt lake]

Because you can easily tighten the cl30 kit yourself

[unkempt lake]

It is

Theres a few kits

Not a lot of choice tho

[ashen spindle]

not with his requirement of more than 32gb

[shell temple]

well, I want the most FPS and having only 32gb does that then i will do it https://www.gskill.com/product/165/425/1723009556/F5-6000J2836G16GX2-TR5NS

[ashen spindle]

the lowest you get on 2x24 or 2x32 is cl30

[umbral heron]

2x16 is like 50% more expensive for CL28 than CL30

Not worth it

[ashen spindle]

cl28 instead of 30 is making maybe a single fps difference if even that

[shell temple]

yeah

[shell temple]

yeah i guess ur right

[unkempt lake]

True

[shell temple]

https://youtu.be/aD-4ScpDSo8 if you guys are interested

[umbral heron]

CL40 5200 vs CL30 6000 is way bigger difference than CL30 6000 and CL28 6000

[shell temple]

I have 32gb now, and I am getting

close to it with all my shit open

21gb ish

[unkempt lake]

That's plenty to spare...

[shell temple]

im assuming in the future it might get higher?

[ashen spindle]

just make sure you dont get 4x16gb sticks, get 2x24 or 2x32 whatever you want in capacity

[shell temple]

yeah i figured that too

[umbral heron]

Get 2x24 and you can forget about RAM until DDR6

2x32 even more so

[unkempt lake]

Kinda wish i had done that tbh but like... besides the new MSFS 24 i can't think of anything that would stress my 32gb

[shell temple]

has this always been a thing? never do 4 ram sticks?

i know NEVER 1 ram stick, but i thought anything after is ok

[ashen spindle]

later on in ddr4 platforms it was fine, but on ddr5 you never want it

[umbral heron]

Yeah... Zen 3 was okay with 4 sticks, but other than that don't go for 4 sticks if you want speed

[shell temple]

ah yeah thats right, ok

yeah im on DDR4 that would explain that

[ashen spindle]

4 sticks was done on ddr4 since most sticks were single rank, on ddr5 every stick is dual rank so you dont get the benefit

[shell temple]

i never researched DDR5 stuff yet

sooooo

I think https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820374614 this should be fine then

[ashen spindle]

I mean thats like twice the price for rgb but sure that works if you want the look

[astral haven]

yea the extra slots are for upgrading in the future or aesthetics, for performance its 2 sticks

[shell temple]

im okay with RGB if the latency is lower

[ashen spindle]

it will work completely fine

[shell temple]

is there cheaper? for the same specs?

when looking at timing the CL number is the first the most important?

[ashen spindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=32768002&S=6000,8400&L=25,300&sort=price&page=1

starts at like 84$

[shell temple]

shit this is so much better than newegg

i know of this site, but didnt think i could search timings

ius TEAMGROUP T-Force good stuff?

[ashen spindle]

its all the same

[shell temple]

thank you guys for all your help

i asked multiple places and you guys came through

I went this memory if your curious: https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820985264?Item=N82E16820985264

saved a couple bucks because of pcpartpicker

[umbral heron]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/scalpers-ryzen-7-9800x3d-sold-out/

[shell temple]

I bought mine earlier this morning on amazon

now i need to see if it actually comes in the date it says lol

[thick elk]

Don't think this is a good product for scalpers at all, gap between the previous gen is too small for them to make enough profit against the risk.

Their loss mostly.

[balmy vector]

They must’ve bought based on the youtuber hype

[umbral heron]

I dunno, lots of min-maxers lately...

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/zjSiY98EqnM

[thick elk]

Problem with scalping is used price is lower than a store price otherwise + shipping costs, if there is sufficient stock, scalpers can lose a decent chunk. I doubt they will be able to sell enough for the risk.

[shell temple]

I heard about the new power supplies, what are they called again?

for newer GPUs

ATX 3.0?

[umbral heron]

For GPUs with 12V-2x6, yeah

[shell temple]

yeah i have a 4090 that i will be using for it

yeahhh super flower has one too

maybe actually... hmm

now i need a case

but im kind of piss because phantek never came out withr their one updated case... yet

fuck i was going crazy trying to find a good performance/cooling case but i guess i might just go with this: https://phanteks.com/product/nv5-white/

[cosmic thunder]

98x3d already sold out wtf

[ashen spindle]

its going to be back in stock soon

this is normal

[trim crane]

Mine is not in store, but memory express is holding onto my processor until I come and pick it up! They gave me the receipt so I don't have to worry about the price changing :)

[north tide]

It depended on the motherboard wiring, but yes, multiple DIMMs per channel has never been best for signal quality and clocking performance

[bright briar]

that good of a cpu?

[cosmic thunder]

ye

[bright briar]

damn the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D is still $629.00 for me

[bright briar]

you bought the 98x3d?

[trim crane]

sorta

i placed my order for one and they gave me a receipt

and i just payt that amount

[bright briar]

thats not bad

[trim crane]

when I have time to go, I pay that 690 CAD

[trim crane]

USD or CAD

[bright briar]

CAD

[trim crane]

damn

also this is my first personal AMD system

[bright briar]

but compared to the new cpu the pricing aint bad

damn i was gonna buy an oled monitor

[trim crane]

i do some productivity but mostly gaming, so it will be a great all rounder

[bright briar]

but now i kinda want to buy that cpu but then i gotta buy a new mobo and ram

looking at the bundle deals rn

[trim crane]

and i can finally stop using raptor lake :)

[trim crane]

i got the X870-I STRIX

[bright briar]

how you like it?

[trim crane]

because I'm building a mini itx rig

i bought it but I'm waiting for it to get to memory express

[crisp granite]

not a horrid deal, all things considered

ram is basically free with that one

also lmao memory express

my least favourite place to buy puter parts

[trim crane]

i really like my memory express

they are super cool

[crisp granite]

ones nearest to me are kinda shitty

either way
Canada Computers have more locations near me and they're better

so like
yeah

[trim crane]

but don't they lower the price if you see lower canadian retail prices

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-giggles-peepogiggles-gif-21481319

microcenter

[trim crane]

i would love to visit microcenter

[dull hollow]

#merica

[dull hollow]

they have a full on sim in the stores

[trim crane]

that's a flip for me

[dull hollow]

its cool

[trim crane]

CC has more places but they are kinda...

[dull hollow]

like triple monitor setup, full rig, etc

[trim crane]

but ME has 2 places but they are good

[crisp granite]

Canada Computers does iirc

[bright briar]

better than canada computers

[trim crane]

ME does

[crisp granite]

there's like
one location in the GTA

[bright briar]

damn i dont even think i need to upgrade either and i was going to buy an oled monitor but now idk

its either i upgrade my cpu or get oled monitor

[crisp granite]

what's your current CPU?

[bright briar]

amd ryzen 7 5800X 8 core

[crisp granite]

get a 5700X3D if you need the performance bump now
otherwise I'd sit on it for a bit

it's still a perfectly capable CPU

[dull hollow]

i just recently bought a 7700x bundle, i just need a gpu upgrade tbh

[bright briar]

im running that with asus rog strix 3080 12gb

[crisp granite]

that's perfect

get a better monitor

[trim crane]

13700K and 3080Ti

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-handshake-deal-agree-gif-7134721403924803840

[crisp granite]

I mean
that's what I'm doing tomorrow lol

[dull hollow]

OLED OLED OLED

[crisp granite]

I have a 7800X3D and RTX 4080 Super

[bright briar]

the black friday sales hasnt started yet right?

[crisp granite]

and I'm running a 1080p

144hz

[dull hollow]

not even close

2 weeks

[crisp granite]

late this month, dawg

not till the yanks have turkey day

[dull hollow]

yeah ^

[bright briar]

yea but sometimes some places do it early

i just dont wanna miss out on those days

[dull hollow]

most places do it week of

[bright briar]

hopefully they aint shit

[dull hollow]

and it lasts 7 days

[crisp granite]

apparently this is sinful

baller rig
not baller monitor

[dull hollow]

1080p is criminal

with a 4080

[crisp granite]

this thing was like
220 CAD
when I got it
in...2019?

el cheapo

[dull hollow]

2070 super with 2x 1440p monitors (ones oled 360hz) B) (my gpu is on its knees)

[trim crane]

using 1440p 360Hz IPS (ULMB 2) tried OLED, but didn't like how smeary objects in motion were vs backlight strobing

[crisp granite]

I'm going to get a 5120x1440 144hz QD-OLED though

so like
redemption

for my sinful ways

[dull hollow]

is that the g9

[crisp granite]

not the G9
getting an MSI model for that burn in warranty

[dull hollow]

wait no, the g9 is 240hz

[crisp granite]

also because it's like
slightly cheaper

and my previous/current monitor
is MSI

and MSI hasn't pissed me off yet in terms of parts failing or shitty CS

guess I'll just be an MSI fangirl till they do so

then I'll move on to Assus

[crisp granite]

first game I'll play on it is probably Fallout 3 though

so like
not much better

[dull hollow]

yeah samsung flips you off for burn-in

as thats “caused by the user”

[crisp granite]

MSI offers that lovely 3 years of protection
and aren't assholes
in my experience

[crisp granite]

tmw the customer bought the monitor
to use
to display images
and not to display the work of art that is the monitor

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[dull hollow]

holup

i need to do a lil googling

oh wait

they offer burn-in warranty now

this is only for the newer oleds that have safeguard+

[bright briar]

does your have that warranty?

[dull hollow]

yeah

i bought my g6 1 or 2 months ago

[bright briar]

nice

[dull hollow]

1 month*

[bright briar]

i either going to get that or the aw2725df

that asus one aint bad either but its 240hz

[dull hollow]

wait for the g9 49” 1440p 360hz ultrawide

[bright briar]

naw i aint going higher than 27"

[dull hollow]

the g9’s aspect ratio is 32:9

[bright briar]

how many years you think i have with that cpu before i need to upgrade

[dull hollow]

i had my 3700x since the start of covid, swapped to a 7700x in august

[crisp granite]

idk
a few at least
a year more than current
but kind of a steal as for pricing

assuming there are some still being sold for reasonable prices

[bright briar]

thats what im thinking , that bundle not bad

[dull hollow]

7800x3d bundle from microcenter is $80 cheaper

they dont even offer a 5700x3d bundle

[bright briar]

yeah but for $80 more

i can get a better cpu

[dull hollow]

think again

its 160 for you buddy cause cad

[bright briar]

yeah

[crisp granite]

I'd still get a new panel over it, if I were you

your current CPU is FINE

it's still pretty recent and isn't a slouch

plus with that 3080, it's not being pushed to its limits either

[bright briar]

and i bought that cpu in 2021

you guys are right

[dull hollow]

also keep in mind

5700x3d is am4

next upgrade youd need to get a motherboard too probably

[bright briar]

yeah but i'll probably wait till the 9800x3d drops down into the $400ish

[bright briar]

i would

new mobo and ram

[dull hollow]

😭🙏

[bright briar]

dont you put that evil on me

https://tenor.com/view/ricky-bobby-gif-3478694

[dull hollow]

[bright briar]

thats why i was considering getting the 98x3d

not too bad

we'll see if theres any good black friday deals

[dull hollow]

$30 difference, before tax

[bright briar]

if the 7800x3d gets a good sale i'll upgrade

or do you guys think i should still wait?

[dull hollow]

god this is painful, i couldve gotten a whole 9800x3d bundle for the price of my oled

[bright briar]

i know bro i know😭

[dull hollow]

whatever, no point in that when my old one only maxes at 144hz

[bright briar]

i can justify myself spending that money on pc parts but for a monitor alone idk😭

[dull hollow]

no bro you saw the video

its NEEDED

[bright briar]

i know!!!😭

fml i dont wanna drop 2k lol

anyways ima go to bed and think about that lovely oled monitor

https://tenor.com/view/gn-good-night-goku-goku-dies-dragon-ball-z-gif-23314304

[dull hollow]

gets monitor in dream

blows up

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-raise-gohan-fight-goku-cell-gif-15494163

me with the oled monitor

[leaden kiln]

me with the 15 dollar tn monitor

[unkempt lake]

I don't regret my g9 neo

[crisp granite]

considering you'll use it for a lot longer than your other components
like
probably 5-10 years

not hard to justify

where as you'd be upgrading your other components...every 4 or so?

[unkempt lake]

[steady sail]

I mean im wanna upgrade my pc in 2028 on cpu side and at least this year on GPU side

[bright briar]

talking about the monitor?

and yeah thats a fair point icl

[rough osprey]

yall dont upgrade every time a better product comes out?

[analog sinew]

yeah especially pc hardware where new shit launches all the time

its essential to buy everything

[rough osprey]

cant wait for the 8001hz mice

will be good upgrade

[steady sail]

I cant wait for my 5090 Ti Super card

[umbral heron]

5099 Ti, $5099 MSRP

[steady sail]

I want my nVidia Super RTX AI 5090 Super Ti card for $10 000 msrp

[cosmic thunder]

actually 🤓 ☝️ its called NVIDIA

[umbral heron]

Yeah yeah yeah, Endive 5090

[analog sinew]

🥗

rtx 5090 calories

[cosmic thunder]

i cant wait for the ntr 6090 gpu in 2026

[analog sinew]

ntr

[cosmic thunder]

NVIDIA'S Totally reused™️ series

let me pause the brainrotting for a moment, i have a question about memory oc

[deft raptor]

So much research I just did, neither cpu or gpu upgrades are good for me because AMD gonna release new cpu and gpu early 2025

[analog sinew]

amd just released their new cpu yesterday

there will always be new stuff

[deft raptor]

They also released 7600x3d to microcenter

[cosmic thunder]

so if i use ryzen 9000 series cpu and have a ddr5 6400 memory, will it work at 5600mhz if i dont turn on the oc stuff?

[analog sinew]

sure

but why downclock it

[cosmic thunder]

im not gonna downclock just wondering

[analog sinew]

oh ok. yeah you can.

and if you dont turn on xmp it will run at the base freq

[cosmic thunder]

5600mhz?

[deft raptor]

There's 5700x3d with 32gb of ram 3200Mhz CL16 being sold on Canada Computer for the price of this said cpu.

[analog sinew]

4000 i think

[cosmic thunder]

alright

[umbral heron]

CL16 of what frequency? Because that matters the most

[cosmic thunder]

will try overclocking when my new pc arrives

[analog sinew]

base speed is super slow, thats why xmp is important ^^

[deft raptor]

3200Mhz

[umbral heron]

Go to BIOS > Enable XMP > done overclocking

[analog sinew]

yea

[umbral heron]

Ah, so equivalent of 6000CL30

[deft raptor]

For me, I have ram of 3200Mhz CL14 for total of 16Gb : F4-3200C14-8GVK with my Ryzen 3600 ( non-x ) as my cpu

[steady sail]

2x8 or just 1x16gb module

[deft raptor]

Ah, 2x8

[trim crane]

DDR4-3200 CL16 and DDR5-6000 CL30 mmmm

[deft raptor]

Last I read about 5700x3d, it was said this cpu is equivalent to 7600x without a way to massively overclock

Lastly, I learned that 9800x3d cpu is different compared to previous x3Ds due having the cache being spread over the die to improve thermals and overclocking potential

[analog sinew]

yes

[trim crane]

on the under side

[umbral heron]

Woooo! https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.13-AMDGPU-Zero-Fan
First memory bug fix in 6.11, now zero fan in 6.13

[deft raptor]

Noice

I am going assume the first gpu being released by amd in 2025 will be suitable for 4k gaming which I don't plan for

[umbral heron]

According to all leaks 8800XT aka Navi 48 will be the most powerful from RDNA4 gen, and it'll be about as performant as 7900XT, just with improved ray-tracing

And more energy-efficient of course

[deft raptor]

Yeah, I have heard about FSR 4 being AI driven, however I don't use ray tracing stuff

[analog sinew]

the funny thing is

i maybe would use raytracing if the games didnt run like ass

all the perf of the card is eaten by shitty running games

so when can i turn rt on? older titles basically

[deft raptor]

classic

At this point, I would just go for raw performance except I hardly buy any new AAA games

[umbral heron]

I have made a very conscious purchase with my GPU
GW2 gets 80FPS and sits on 20% of GPU usage

[deft raptor]

Oh yeah, when you bought your 7800xt ?

[umbral heron]

I've got XTX
I bought it a bit over a month ago I think

[deft raptor]

Ah, interesting. for 1 month ago to be worth.

Oh yeah, 9800x3d was sold out

[analog sinew]

yeah of course it was

hm

if i get one till january thats fine

[deft raptor]

Right, I will be fine if I can get onto AM5 with 9800x3d then I can afford to wait for new gpu to drop

[steady sail]

Im fine with my 58x3d and 6700 xt combo but i want better gpu

[deft raptor]

I know 5800x3d is better than 5700x3d in some use cases

But jeez, this processor is GONE from market

[analog sinew]

yeah cause its old

[steady sail]

5700x3d is the same cpu as the 58x3d but slower

[analog sinew]

and good

[steady sail]

I bought mine for 300€

[umbral heron]

I'm just happy that I don't have to upgrade in the foreseeable future

[deft raptor]

Welp, I know that my current mobo is very capable of powering 5700x3d if I upgrade from 3600 ( MSI Tomahawk MAX )

[steady sail]

I mean im gonna upgrade when am6 is out screw am5

[analog sinew]

screw am6, wait for am7

[steady sail]

No thats too late

[deft raptor]

lol, for me I want jump from 5700xt straight to 8800xt

[old marlin]

so in like 4-5 years?

[steady sail]

Yeah

[deft raptor]

5700x3d crushes all other cpus in games but not in general purpose

[steady sail]

Its for gaming not for productivity

[deft raptor]

Yeah but sometimes I update which can take long time if a package requires to be compiled

[steady sail]

If u need that am5 9700x

[umbral heron]

paru -S whatever-bin

Let other people compile, I can't be bothered

[deft raptor]

Yeah, btw 9700x can beat 5700x3d in recent benchmarks then lose to 5800x3d

[fair gull]

i assume this heavily depends on what you even bench

given the x to x3d comparison

[deft raptor]

Yes, that's fucking weird : 9800x3 beats 9700x by breaking 30 second barrier on Stellaris sim time benchmark at https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/rip-intel-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-7800x3d-285k-14900k-more

The 1% fps from 9800x3d is insane in Total Warhammer 3

[severe phoenix]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/8bitdo-pro-2-bluetooth-gamepad-gray/6475678.p?skuId=6475678

[old marlin]

got a very weird issue rn

server had it's storage run full (thanks 200 gigs of logs) and after that did not like to do networking things anymore

[umbral heron]

Networking?

Usually clearing space and hitting it with a hammer reboot works

[deft raptor]

Ah, good old percussive maintenance

[old marlin]

man I wish

all looks good

it does DNS things, dmesg looks clean even

but then it doesn't wanna do SSH even though the service is running

and networking just entirely drops for a few seconds every now and then

[umbral heron]

That's quite weird
I know that sometimes SSH may not connect you at all if it doesn't have space left, but haven't heard about dropping networking

[old marlin]

I mean with no space that wouldn't be surprising

but the server went through reboots now

[steady sail]

https://youtu.be/Awz_CG2320E?si=p5ORrDOBYTi2rvgl again a microcenter only cpu

[deft raptor]

Yes, fucking sucks

[distant tapir]

Smh

[cosmic thunder]

https://youtu.be/jOdR9kpj3sM

this is so interesting for me somehow

[old marlin]

ok I think it was a duplicate IP?

I changed it and it seemed to behave better

at least SSH works now

[old marlin]

yea some weird proxmox service kinda didn't want to anymore

[wheat plume]

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/shitbucket/dllahaphpgcogbldpendffkhccodgmeb?pli=1

[halcyon moss]

-_-

[spiral plume]

Snake peak of the design of the keypad I'll be making for my switch, i will make it more compact than this also

[topaz fog]

i sadly just succumbed to buying am5

[ashen spindle]

I mean am6 likely isnt here before 2028 so nothing lost there

[analog sinew]

what is the problem with am5

[analog sinew]

yeah

[steady sail]

I mean am5 is good but i did an upgrade from 2600x to 5800x3d in January

[topaz fog]

my old pc has a 1400x i found in the trash :)

somewhat overdue upgrade one could say

[analog sinew]

free shit best shit

[steady sail]

I mean if i waited i would gotten a 7800x3d instead

But i needed the cpu upgrade

[analog sinew]

i found this in a drawer at work

[topaz fog]

oieee

[umbral heron]

I have 2 new e5-2680v4s in my trash drawer at work

[steady sail]

We have a fully working i5-3470 with a gtx 950 in it

[analog sinew]

we have pcs that run xp

running devices that cost millions lol

[latent mural]

I still have an Intel i5 750 somewhere

[analog sinew]

Guten Tak

[latent mural]

guten tak

[old marlin]

just 3 more weeks though

[latent mural]

I used to service a CNC lathe that was running I think pre-NT Windows embedded

was still a machine worth like 150k even today

[analog sinew]

then what

[old marlin]

I got a new job

[analog sinew]

oh

gz

[latent mural]

gz

[fair gull]

time to make a mug warmer from it

[latent mural]

mug warmer?
it can double as a space heater

[gloomy linden]

depending on how old it is old cpus could almost be passively cooled if it wasnt for the chonky ribbons

[wheat plume]

Microsoft-tan spying on you on Windows 11

[latent mural]

I am slightly more comfortable with windows now

all Microsoft needs is waifus

[wheat plume]

Microsoft does infact have Waifus

[old marlin]

win 11 did not get one

[frozen ingot]

what ya'll need is touching grass

[latent mural]

as long as she's okay with it

[neat lion]

guys do i need a cpu frame for the ryzen 7700x

[latent mural]

no

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/endgamegear/status/1854925973650600128?s=46

￳Endgame Gear (@endgamegear) on X

Twitter · Nov 8, 2024, 4:36 PM

fast

[distant tapir]

I kinda want the 9800X3D. Since I'm a low resolution gamer (640x420 up to 1600x1200 at most) do you think getting it along with a mid to high end GPU is smart or should I go for a cheaper CPU with a higher end GPU?

(1600x1200 is fewer pixels than 1920x1080 btw so it's quite low)

[ashen spindle]

I mean at that point higher memory makes more sense than a better gpu

[unkempt lake]

dude's gonna play at 144p

[ashen spindle]

so 98x3d and good memory so you can OC that and a midrange gpu would be the way

[distant tapir]

I'm planning for 6000 MT/s CL30 ram.

[ashen spindle]

get 6400 or even 6600 and see if you get lucky or can get 6400/6200 with decent timings

[distant tapir]

Shouldn't be that much more expensive so I'll try. Thanks.

[distant tapir]

That's rare.

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-crank-dat-gif-19328104

[distant tapir]

My display sadly cannot natively display anything below 480p.

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-24532275

@distant tapir https://youtu.be/dsSsAjI0ISU?si=V4-MxUttmjWdYHSp

[latent mural]

mmm
mouldy

[distant tapir]

Gosh what is the framerate on that thing? 12 fps?

[unkempt lake]

lets watch shrek and shark tale on game boy advance

[analog sinew]

THE SACRED SCROLLS

[distant tapir]

8 year old me would not have complained.

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/CyOfPZQl4MI?si=o0oojyF_SiA0iIeI

[unkempt lake]

I loves GBA video

I had a blast watching pokemon episodes that way

The pokemon episodes actually looked decent and didnt have as much compression

The movies tho holy shit

They were so compressed

I'm surprised they even fit on a gba cart

[distant tapir]

GBA? The 1989 one?

Nvm lol

I'm dumb.

[latent mural]

apparently this is 33fps

[gusty kiln]

1000 fps gaming

[distant tapir]

Lol I wish. Even at 1200p not every game I want to play will hit my locked 60 fps target on ultra with RT.

[latent mural]

rt
low res
no upscaling

why???

[distant tapir]

We do a little trolling

I guess I can do that higher than display resolution rendering followed by DLSS technique.

Never tried that.

[unkempt lake]

A GBA cart only has 32mb of storage

@distant tapir

The video carts had 64mb

[distant tapir]

So there were two carts for a movie?

[latent mural]

no just another flash chip

[bright briar]

@dull hollow i bought it

[dull hollow]

proof or it didnt happen

[bright briar]

i'll send the proof in a bit

it droped from 1.1k to this

but the real sale will happen in 2 weeks

and amazon will price adjust it for me(if theres a sale)

[smoky frigate]

http://www.ka1mda.org/philipshdtv/101uses.htm

I may have stumbled over something slightly deranged

[dull hollow]

random link

[dull hollow]

you got monitor arms?

[distant tapir]

In around 2019 I bought a 27 inch 1440p 165 Hz IPS monitor for a similar price.

[dull hollow]

oh hell naw wtf

usd?

[bright briar]

ye

[steady sail]

me with my 300 euro worth 1440p IPS monitor

[mellow idol]

my keyboard is connected to my pc but whenever i change something in the wootlity web nothing changes on my keyboard. for example, if i change the rgb layout on the web and save to keyboard it wont change anything on the keyboard.

[unkempt lake]

I bought a 27inch 1440p 165hz IPS with hdr for 250cad

[smoky frigate]

OELD??
OELD??????

[dull hollow]

i got my IPS 1440p 144hz LG for like 400 something

[dull hollow]

oled is superior in every way

[smoky frigate]

to OELD

[unkempt lake]

Sadly the monitor got damaged in shipping

[dull hollow]

wtf 💀

[unkempt lake]

Look at this beautiful curve people

[dull hollow]

that is some crazy work ngl

[smoky frigate]

"hey I didn't get a curved one"

[unkempt lake]

thanks purolator

[distant tapir]

Okay it was 2020 not 2019. Here it is.
In 2020 money, 9 000 NOK was $820. Now it's $817 so basically the same.

No I have no idea why it was that expensive.

[dull hollow]

i convinced goku to get the oled ehehe

[dull hollow]

why tf is this so expensive

[smoky frigate]

no hate on oled, it's gr8 shit
I'm just laughing at the typo in the image like the spiteful bastard I am

[distant tapir]

No clue.

I could probably have bought a 4k monitor for almost that price.

[dull hollow]

i didnt even notice it said oeld in the image 💀

i thought you spelled it wrong

[dull hollow]

fr

@bright briar its on sale again

[bright briar]

yeth

$849.99 CAD not usd

[bright briar]

yeah i saw that

if i bought it from the usa it would be like 1k CAD

[unkempt lake]

@bright briar i'll let you know if dell's CS is any good

Lol

[dull hollow]

buy it in the us and import it 💯

[distant tapir]

I remember some people in the monitor Discord used to think the first oled gaming monitor revealed (the curved 1440p 175 Hz Alienware one) would be $2000 - $3000 and here we are.

[bright briar]

where you buy it from?

[unkempt lake]

Dell directly

[bright briar]

i paid 960 cad for the alienware

[dull hollow]

yuh, 1440p 360hz oled for 580 before tax was how much i paid for my g6

[bright briar]

ahh sucks to hear that

fuck i forgot to ask for an extra box

with amazon

[unkempt lake]

Wxtra box?

Huh

I'm kinda bummed out about the monitor cuz welp it was a gift for nico and welp... it arrived like this ):

How dare i do nice things

Dell and purolator said NUH HUH

[distant tapir]

That's very good.

[unkempt lake]

You wanna give a gift? no

[bright briar]

yeah i can request them to hide my package because amazon is being cheap. In their order settings it just says something like "dont hide the package" so they dont put it in their amazon box and you receive the monitor box instead

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-kitty-komaru-cat-explosion-cat-cat-explosion-gif-4940756872467221811

[dull hollow]

youre about to receive it without discreet packaging

[bright briar]

someone gon steal my SHIT

[dull hollow]

i ordered my monitor from Samsung directly

their logo was all over it 💀

[bright briar]

little do they know. I'll be waiting for them thieves

[balmy vector]

i like that the lg oleds dont got a ton of logos lmao

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-goku-kakarot-apear-angry-gif-6006942456652139304

[dull hollow]

im surprised it didnt get stolen during shipping and delivery

[bright briar]

do we not like amazon here?

i notice not a lot of people like ordering for them

[dull hollow]

amazon is fine, most of the items come in the amazon box

[bright briar]

well at least from this discord

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/spazz-energetic-happy-excited-pokemon-gif-20733944

[marsh pewter]

I think the issue people have with amazon here is that its rotted people's brains, now if something doesnt deliver in 15 minutes its way too long.

[dull hollow]

my lg ips monitor got a gigachin and has LG in the center

[balmy vector]

ye they do that with their ips

[dull hollow]

my samsung monitor only has a small extention at the bottom center saying samsung

[marsh pewter]

so constantly (and especially a few months ago) you would have people complaining about their back-order taking too long to ship

[bright briar]

fair. I love amazon because of their return policy. I never had issues with them. I had this one idiot trying to deliver my package at 5am on a holiday that required me to give a code but beside that they been great for me

[unkempt lake]

Codes?

[balmy vector]

ive had a switch puller pack i was suppose to get deliver with nothing at all in the packaging lmao

[unkempt lake]

Amazon just yeets shit at the front door no matter the value lol

[bright briar]

for some reason when i bought a gaming mice it requested a password code

i didnt choose that

[unkempt lake]

Also the number of times where they deliver my shit to my neighbour is astonishing

[bright briar]

like the monitor i ordered i have to give a code when they show up since its almost 1k

[unkempt lake]

They left my 7900xtx at my doorstep lol

[marsh pewter]

thats wild

[unkempt lake]

No signature no confirmation just

Ploop it at my door

Walk away

[marsh pewter]

thankfully where I live theres no package thefts

mainly because its all old people

[unkempt lake]

Relatable

[dull hollow]

top number was price before tax
bottom 3 numbers are total discounts - main discount/first responder account discount (family members account)

[unkempt lake]

Same thing here

Crime isn't a big issue

[bright briar]

watching an unboxing video and bro got that charizard

[dull hollow]

for us, its signatures

[marsh pewter]

a lot of the people in my neighborhood have been living here for the 30 years this place has existed

[bright briar]

i got either code password or signatures

[unkempt lake]

I can't even remember the last time i was asked for a signature

Even if i answer the door they just hand it and leave

No signing

But like

Delivery drivers dont even knock anymore

They just plop the package on the ground and walk away

[marsh pewter]

thankfully here usps usually puts packages in the mailbox

and we have a big mailbox

[bright briar]

@dull hollow the proof

[zenith silo]

Same for my 6900xt

[dull hollow]

still funny it says oeld

[bright briar]

yeah whoever uploaded that mistake is a funny guy

[unkempt flax]

Help someone help me fast

My keyboard just stopped working. Tryed to update it and then it just disconnected and now I can find it in the browser. Really annoying. Can write anything or search for anything

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[neat lion]

can anyone help me out really quick

this keeps happening when i use a resolution like 1440x992 or 1568x1080 is there any fix to this?

much appreciated if someone finds an answer

[analog sinew]

what the fuck haha

but those resolutions are really nonstandard, why are you trying to use those, is that really what your monitor is?

[latent mural]

if the monitors VGA or D-SUB it probably doesn't like the resolution

could also be a poor quality cable

why the weird resolutions though?

[neat lion]

its for valorant

they recently nerfed normal resolutions

[distant tapir]

Wat?

[neat lion]

i used to play on a resolution like 1280x1080 for a streched view on games

[distant tapir]

Yum, scaling blur

[neat lion]

whats a fix for that cus this is getting on my nerves

[ashen spindle]

try different cables, try reinstaling drivers, could be the monitor, could be the gpu

easiest would be to use a normal resolution

[analog sinew]

you must understand, the advantadge is crucial.

[neat lion]

i cant aim now

[crimson wigeon]

Also find the scaling setting, see whether having the GPU doing the scaling works, or the monitor

[neat lion]

both dont work

i really need a fix to this

[smoky frigate]

holy shit, that tiny 17" CRT monitor supports nearly 4k resolution rofl

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah, CRTs be like that

[smoky frigate]

normally you have to fuck with the modes to get anything line this

this one io just "sure why not"

and it's actually readable

[latent mural]

yea thats one thing crts have lcds beat in
you can push it to absurdly high resolutions and it eats it

[analog sinew]

electron beam go brr

[distant tapir]

They can't truly display a resolution as high as that. Highest is 1440p.

[latent mural]

displaying is another thing

but you can drive them at whatever

[distant tapir]

It's kinda like upping the rendering resolution.

[latent mural]

at most you'll need to dip the framerate, but you can 8k a crt

[unkempt lake]

https://hothardware.com/news/exclusive-intel-promises-arrow-lake-fixes

zen5 all over again

GUYS WE CAN PATCH IT I SWEARRRRR

[ashen spindle]

I mean yeah in some games it does really bad and thats clearly some microcode or scheduling issue

doesnt change it will still be <14900k

[smoky frigate]

just one more gen bro I swear it will be good this time

[latent mural]

the shareholder cope

[ashen spindle]

nah desktop DiY is not relevant for shareholders

[latent mural]

the lack of performance still effects servers built on the same architecture

[ashen spindle]

there are no server chips built on the same architecture

[latent mural]

its consumer only?

[fickle ore]

SSSHARESSS

[ashen spindle]

arrow lake and lunar lake only

the e cores are in xeon6 and those perform fine, its lion cove and the interconnects that slow it down

[fickle ore]

Good news on patching ARL

Seems like they're hurrying the CHIPS ACT funds now for some reason

Intel TSM getting some fat checks soon

[ashen spindle]

because trump wants to cut it so if they dont hurry it intel might get nothing

[smoky frigate]

trying the integrated graphics on my 12900ks now for larks

[fickle ore]

mhmh Trump should mean good for intel in any case

[ashen spindle]

maybe for the short term, not in 2+ years if the current plans stay

[fickle ore]

How so?

[ashen spindle]

because the current plans means no chips money if that gets cut, harder hurdles for getting workers in and more difficulty to keep a lot of their employes in the us

[fickle ore]

isolationism should mean even more support and subsidizing tho

Tho it might mean less int. revenue

[ashen spindle]

too bad they have not enough skilled workers to do that the isolation way

[fickle ore]

Possible

INTC ran from $22 to $26 in 2 days since Trump. A lot of stuff did anyway so idk if it means much

[ashen spindle]

yeah as I said for short term, because the market doesnt care about what happens in a year

[fickle ore]

Usually the market is forward looking by 6-12 months

But ye trump effect will be interesting to see

living at nato-russia border evne more so

[ashen spindle]

intel already denounced his plans last time because it was screwing over their employment options

[fickle ore]

whose?

[ashen spindle]

well who could it have been

trumps attempt last time

[fickle ore]

that sentence isnt coming thru lol

[ashen spindle]

last time trump was in power, intel denounced his plans for immigration and such because they were suffering from worker shortage of skilled labor

so you can take a guess what happens now when they are supposed to do even more leading edge on main land

[fickle ore]

mhm mhm

That will affect TSM too and they aint even doing most advanced node on US soil

[ashen spindle]

its not going to affect their taiwan leading edge fabs lol

but yes that would make it harder for them to do what trump wanted last time as well

[fickle ore]

No but their US fabs

But Taiwan has its own issues

[hollow ginkgo]

can anyone give me some spec advice?

[latent mural]

probably

[hollow ginkgo]

so im buildin a new pc soon and idk what gpu to get and i only play cs2

4070ti or 4070ti super

cs there's not much of a price difference so idk which to get

[fickle ore]

is money an issue? Just look at $/fps values

[hollow ginkgo]

not really i can spend an extra 200

[fickle ore]

If not why not get 4090 ti super

[hollow ginkgo]

the original budget was 1.6k but i could spend a bit extra

[fickle ore]

Dude, the more you spend the more you save

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDpDesU_0zo

[hollow ginkgo]

i literally only play cs2 lmao 😭

[smoky frigate]

oh damn, it's a fuckin Mitsubishi Diamondtron tube

[final flame]

bro is applying a business logic onto a guy wanting to just play cs2

[hollow ginkgo]

😭

[fickle ore]

LOL

[smoky frigate]

get the ti super

[fickle ore]

Okay have my educated guess: watch the $/fps values in meta reviews or just random reviews

decide based on that

[latent mural]

bigger number better

[hollow ginkgo]

alr i hope that helps me get a final decison tghnaks

thanks

oops

[final flame]

I would also recommend using pcpartpicker if you already aren't using it
that way you can ask people whether the options you chose are good

it's a lot easier to just send a single permalink of a part list rather than list out parts

[hollow ginkgo]

yeah im gonna get the 7800x3d

[ashen spindle]

just get the 9800x3d

[north tide]

if they do that here they have to replace the item

[hollow ginkgo]

yeah im js looking for specs that can run 360 fps well

[trim crane]

going to but the 9800X3D in a few minutes

$669.99 CAD is almost $479.99 USD

[cedar fog]

really not that bad

[trim crane]

yep :)

im getting from memory express with a price match with best buy

[cedar fog]

I feel that's what I paid for flagship years ago

so it's nice to see prices haven't gotten crazy

compared to GPU shithole land

[trim crane]

finally a reasonable price for a flagship

scaling with inflation that is

[balmy vector]

And a quite good one

Not bad for a new gen chip

[trim crane]

didnt flagships used to cost like 300 USD and 450 CAD ish

[balmy vector]

At some point probably

[trim crane]

😓

dang

[cedar fog]

i think i9 9900k launched at like $450+ atleast

[trim crane]

USD?

[cedar fog]

yes

[trim crane]

yeah I have no idea what intel was smoking

[balmy vector]

9900k pretty good

[cedar fog]

amd was kinda shit back then tbf

[trim crane]

yeah my dad owns one

[balmy vector]

Still got mine chilling

[ashen spindle]

I mean chips do more than gaming, for working the 9800x3d is far away from being the flagship

[cedar fog]

yeah stacked cache is so good

[ashen spindle]

the 9950x3d will be more like 700 or something

[trim crane]

i used an 8700K in my first custom pc (could get a stable 5.1GHz on a 120 AIO)

[cedar fog]

especially at the speeds they're getting them at

[trim crane]

this is my third personal custom and first personal AMD

[balmy vector]

9950x3d will be pretty cool to see in action

[cedar fog]

im waiting for some better GPUs to come out

before I upgrade again

I feel like it's not worth upgrading from 2080ti

[trim crane]

Im excited to build in my NCASE M2

[cedar fog]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cedar fog]

black or white

[trim crane]

black round flatpack

[trim crane]

BOUGHT THE 9800X3D

[cosmic thunder]

[bright briar]

whats the price match from bestbuy?

[trim crane]

670 CAD

[balmy vector]

Mmmyes, made my laptop not reach 105C on cpu simply reducing maximum processor power

Should’ve done this sooner

[deft raptor]

You must have AM5 mobo at this moment ?

[north tide]

i wonder if they are doing something cool like an extra cache stack or new interconnect mid-gen

[ashen spindle]

man you're hoping for too much

I just hope the scheduler works lmao

[balmy vector]

Itll be fine im sure

[north tide]

this needs an explanation 😛

and the delay, and unveil at the same time as strix halo (which has the new interconnect) is also an interesting pointer

(linux results are 15-20% faster, the 655 is on windows)

[ashen spindle]

Iwell givent hat one board vendors leak seem to indicate we dont even get dual v$ on it

and I think the later release is simply volume and because they wanted the 98 against arrow lake timing wise

[north tide]

dual vcache is a way better product now because vcache ccd's are faster for productivity too

[trim crane]

is that a hypothetical 9950X3D

[north tide]

no, it's a result that somebody ran with factorio benchmark

[ashen spindle]

yeah it should be dual v$ but so far we only have few points and some that point towards it not being one lol

[north tide]

they either faked the submission somehow or it's on NDA'd hardware and they screwed up

but nobody is able to touch it with a 9800x3d on windows

[ashen spindle]

hoping mine gets there tomorrow

[balmy vector]

What if i eat it

[trim crane]

you and eating inedible things lmao

[balmy vector]

Is tradition

[trim crane]

real

[bright briar]

nice

should i buy the 7800x3d if it goes on sale this black friday or wait till next year to buy the 9800x3d

[trim crane]

depends, what cpu and mobo rn

[bright briar]

5800x and am4

[ashen spindle]

I dont think it will go on sale because it basically out of stock or same price anyway

[bright briar]

its msi b550 tomahawk max wifi

[bright briar]

yeah if the price doesnt drop i'll get the 9800x3d

unless i should wait longer

[trim crane]

I would suggest 9800X3D for that generational pergormance and being able to still use it for productivity (why I didnt get the 7800X3D, bc I dont purely game)

[bright briar]

you dont coding?

or like video editing and etc

[trim crane]

I actually do want to learn coding and I do video editing

[balmy vector]

I want to learn blender personally

[trim crane]

sameeeee

Im getting the Pathfinder so I can maybe make some really cool shapes with the rail guides

[balmy vector]

I know java a decent amount, learning python right now with my uni class, and blender would be just some fun for me

[trim crane]

Also learning Python is useful for learning C++ right

[balmy vector]

Yeah

Either or is good knowledge

[trim crane]

The reason I wanna learn is to design code for MCUs for mice and keyboards abd maybe games

[balmy vector]

Also learning OOP is good in general

(Object oriented programming)

[trim crane]

does that mean programming for MCUs

[cosmic thunder]

me too but when i tried to learn it i realized i cant even make a simple donut

[trim crane]

refining craft

does anyone know if blender runs fine on linux

[cosmic thunder]

it will run fine as windows

i tried to make something with blender in linux

gave up after 5 minutes though

but yeah, it just works in any operating systems

[crimson wigeon]

Blender works better on Linux tbh

Rendering is just straight up faster

[dull hollow]

2 quick questions, i need a longer dp cable and i was wondering if this could support 1440p @360hz. my 2nd question is can i use this even though my gpu dp is 1.4? ty
https://www.amazon.com/DisplayPort-Stouchi-32-4Gbps-FreeSync-Graphics/dp/B0CFLJ9KVR?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._rewbpkpE7gmTwBKqI-vNUkO6ssG2x0zToMtt4XAFrE6xok75GuPBmGSc7QqDA1WHa2VVfeXHWNprL-_ZK9EUisI-Pupr2CR8ndEROgdEGJytBnsKzYT-8tGoY0TrbmZuEikdU95o7RGnDCIQG9SI-xBgXJksuwdWEUXGGUlU0eZ4tQ-R8wToM48Scbl8wxntQA3BayZxZwHy3EOQyXnTpLN0X_2yv43jYD4Ms0sG78.kz989-np1luM-9DBzqMxeS3qQPeaXrn8H5n-ckGmhwY&dib_tag=se&th=1

[weary harness]

What an amazing Friday. Finished work to find out that my gaming PC doesn't work. It keeps restarting no matter what I do and to the point it went into recovery screen

Ended up ordering a new PSU so hopefully that's good.

[frank prawn]

hey keyboard warriors, anyone got some advice for me? (pulling 165 FPS with insane screen tearing while g-sync is enabled btw)

graphics card driver freshly installed, nvidia control panel settings reset, and freshly restarted

[vagrant pagoda]

what is the adpative sync range of your display?

[lyric hatch]

Yeah might have to put a cap on your fps to what range your monitor supports

[frank prawn]

no idea what u saying but my monitor is 165hz

[vagrant pagoda]

what display is it

[frank prawn]

and i've been usign gsync since day one, only discovered what screen tearing looked like a month ago on someone else's pc

[frank prawn]

a samsung odyssey g5

[vagrant pagoda]

oh good ole shitty va right?

[frank prawn]

no, IPS

27 inch 1440p

[vagrant pagoda]

maybe your 1%s are dopping below the sync range of the display

[frank prawn]

wdym lmao

like the gpu is not syncing, so its not showing?

[vagrant pagoda]

gsync isnt magic

[frank prawn]

yes it is

but continue

[vagrant pagoda]

it just adjusts the refreshrate to match the gpus render rate

[frank prawn]

yeah

and then magically removes vsync

[vagrant pagoda]

it has a maxium rate, which is the max of the panel

[frank prawn]

i mean screen tearing

[vagrant pagoda]

and a minium

it dosent remove vsync or tearing

it literally is fancy vsync

[frank prawn]

thats the whole purpose of it though-

to be a low latency vsync

so you don't make compromises when the screen tearing is screwing you over

[vagrant pagoda]

but the g55c has a sync range of 48-165

[frank prawn]

i've never dropped below 48

[vagrant pagoda]

so if your lows are dipping under 48 you will get tearing

[frank prawn]

my 99% is 133

nvidia overlay reports 25% gpu usage

[vagrant pagoda]

99 desnt matter

what is your 0.1% low?

[bright briar]

sorry i cant anwser your question but if no one knows the answer you could contact samsung support and ask

[dull hollow]

1am

[bright briar]

yes i know

you would contact them tomorrow if theyre available on the weekend

let me have this 10000iq moment bro😭

[dull hollow]

oh

[dull hollow]

i just looked at the product page

its dp 1.4 and hdmi 2.1

[bright briar]

sometime talking to strangers is good😌

[dull hollow]

nuh ih

i hate socializing

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/kidnap-ready-to-go-ready-packing-revenge-gif-14345059

[dull hollow]

youre just a fitment of my imagination im schizophrenic

in fact this server isnt real

[bright briar]

bro no the voices

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-9719118294569977870

LMAO

[distant tapir]

I'd go for hdmi 2,1.

Higher bandwidth.

[dull hollow]

i already got a hdmi 2.1 on the way for a different reason

but ig ill just use that for the monitor

[alpine patio]

👏

[harsh flume]

is 9800x3d better for productivity/gaming (mostly productivity) or should i stick with 7950x?

[halcyon moss]

Look at benchmarks

[naive dew]

I will take for a while My 7800x3d

[cosmic thunder]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-devastating-gaming-performance/3

[fair gull]

the answer is: depends on what productivity tasks you wanna run

[balmy vector]

My oled has now at this point crossed the 1k hour uptime mark

[iron wave]

"Devastating gaming performance" makes it sound like it can't run games.

For productivity, wait until the higher core count X3D parts come out before you buy.

[latent mural]

wait until the threadripper x3ds come out

they'll be fucking monstrous

[iron wave]

If they come out.

I would love to have a 64C/128T monster with 768MB of L3 cache.

I would like to install DOOM into my L3 cache 133 times please.

[latent mural]

it can store crysis in cache

[smoky frigate]

and probably run it exactly as fast as a computer 10 years ago

[weary harness]

I’ll stick with my 5800X3D.

[steel cave]

Any channel for help with the build? The module isnt fitting/loose top left corner

[dull hollow]

my lg ips has almost 13000 hours 💀

i think its weird i cant find out where it is on my smasung oled

[iron wave]

Samsung hides that in service menus.

I have a 5900X.

[dull hollow]

theyve done a hell of a job to hide how to get into the service menu, its not on the manual

[iron wave]

Yeah that's normal these days.

[smoky frigate]

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/wayland-support-for-the-565-release-series/312688

[wheat plume]

Finally
A use for that divot in the steam deck case was found!

[wild coyote]

For some odd reason, I can't stand drinking energy drinks that are 0.5L

but I'm fine drinking a smaller can

[steady sail]

for some ppl .5l is too much

[wheat plume]

Yeah
It can be

[leaden kiln]

.25l is the optimal can size
even .333 is too big

Too bad the only .25 can is redbull and that's no good

[marsh pewter]

i'm lame

I just use it for the charger in the little bag

[wild coyote]

If monster made smaller cans, I'd consider taking them instead

[leaden kiln]

haven't seen my fav monster in so long 😔

[wheat plume]

Little bag?

[leaden kiln]

u suck at unboxing if u missed it

[wheat plume]

???

I just looked it up
The bag only comes with the higher end models

[leaden kiln]

wtf poor people issue

couldn't be me

[wheat plume]

Xd

Only the 1tb storage models get the bag

[marsh pewter]

thats kinda dumb

[wheat plume]

Yeh

[marsh pewter]

do they really need to save the 15 cents?

[wheat plume]

Only the 1tb models get the slim case you can remove from the large one

[leaden kiln]

I never used that bag
I think there's a 3d printed insert that the charger wraps around perfectly
But I don't have my deck anymore

[magic minnow]

Was gonna buy a 650 mATX but saw the new mobos starting to come out should I wait for a 850 or 870 mATX?

[wheat plume]

Only fit the US charger :'(

[leaden kiln]

why wouldn't someone just modify it for eu charger

Yeah https://www.printables.com/model/270615-steam-deck-carrying-case-insert-with-stand-eu-plug

[marsh pewter]

yo send that to me

[leaden kiln]

nah just use a 3d print service
or some1 prob sells on etsy 💀

[marsh pewter]

no I mean send the file to me lol

[leaden kiln]

buddy

[leaden kiln]

#🔌│tech message

[steady sail]

meanwhile im just waiting for the best moment when im buying a new pc case for myself

[ivory roost]

Does anybody know if there will be a black friday deal on wooting ?

[steady sail]

there is not gonna be black friday deals at wooting

[marsh pewter]

thats for the eu plug

[ivory roost]

😦

Okay thx

[marsh pewter]

nvm I found it

[steady sail]

overall wooting doesnt do sales

[leaden kiln]

Idk bro get a search engine

[ivory roost]

Okay, might order a 60he with the take control keycaps next week

[magic minnow]

Decker bro

[marsh pewter]

[bright briar]

what cases do you have in mind?

[steady sail]

Phanteks Eclipse g500a

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-mewing-mew-slytherin-gif-8263298459687914233

[deft raptor]

Wasnt they always have huge L3 caches making the suffix X3D redundant ?

[steady sail]

With that case i could get 3 fan variant cards as well

[deft raptor]

Ah, 3 fans was for being less loud than 2 fans card ?

[latent mural]

that's just due to the sheer die space available

but x3d is more than that, it isn't just more L3, it's better latency L3 too

and shoving all the L3 into the X3D cache allows monstrous amounts of L1 and L2 as well

[deft raptor]

Ah, I see.

Knowing the AMD changed how the L3 cache get laid down for the 9800x3d and thus having better thermal which gave better overclocking

[astral haven]

The x3d isn't better latency l3
Its just bigger and 3d stacked

[latent mural]

latency is also improved lol

goes from like 7us to 5us or something

[ashen spindle]

thats the opposite of what happens, larger l3 means the roundtrip latency increases

and it doesnt change L1 or L2

[astral haven]

And 5us latency is atrocious

You can get to dram and back way more than 10 times in that time

[latent mural]

probably got my unit wrong

but l3 did get better, not just larger

[astral haven]

I thought so too, and I was wrong

[latent mural]

it can't literally just be "hehe big cache"

[astral haven]

The only improvements come after the first 32 megabytes.

[astral haven]

Why not?

[ashen spindle]

It literally has to get worse, larger caches means physically bigger so it takes longer to traverse it

[latent mural]

idk i heard that X3D had better L3 latencies over standard L3s

[astral haven]

Edram was hehe big cache, and it was slower than regular cache and it still helped alot

[ashen spindle]

Otherwise we would have boy L1 and 5gb of it

[steady sail]

Not bc of that i dont hear my gpu fans, my pc case is just too compact to fit 3 fan variant cards

[latent mural]

well it just gets really hard to put it close enough

[bright briar]

i got the P600s

[ashen spindle]

I mean would just make l1 cache if that was all

[deft raptor]

Ah, I saw xfx 7900 gre being discounted which sapphire pulse 7800xt costing 100$ less, so I am not sure which is a good choice for 1440p at this moment.

[latent mural]

both are damn good