#🔌│tech
distant tapir
crude pebble
I’ve had my Wooting 80 for about 10 days now, but it randomly deactivates while I’m playing a game. To fix it, I have to unplug and reconnect it. This has already happened three times, and it’s getting pretty annoying. Has anyone else experienced this?
magic minnow
I have a 7950X3D instead 
lyric hatch
Well there's only one option if you want the best
Would be less boring if competitors made competitive products
cosmic thunder
imma buying new pc with 9800x3d tomorrow
final flame
distant tapir
Well there's only one option if you want the best
Sad butt true
mild dome
I mean you can't imagine someone using an Ultra 9 for a gaming CPU
It's a joke compared to AMD's tech
Anyhow I plan on also getting a 9800x3D, dunno if I want to get it tomorrow, or if I should wait. I've been using a 5900x with a 7900xtx, so I figure a CPU upgrade would be worth getting
old marlin
nahh bro, I'd use EPYC cpus with the 4090
the prices for them are quite something
TR W as well
cosmic thunder
wondering if 9800x3d is overkill for my rtx 3060
halcyon moss
Ah, anything is overkill then right? Because that game runs on a potato?
cosmic thunder
yeah i know, but i5 10400f is kinda weak for me
feels like it can't handle all the gpu power or something, idk
and when playing valo sometimes it's slightly lagging
dull hollow
i mostly play valo
im using a 7700x for valor 300+fps max settings
running one 99hz 1440p and one 360hz 1440p
with a 2070 super
low settings 450+fps
dull hollow
wondering if 9800x3d is overkill for my rtx 3060
9800x3d is definitely overkill for valorant and osu and youre gonna be gpu bottlenecked if you want to play some more graphic intensive games
dull hollow
im currently gpu bottlenecked
and the 2070 super is better than 3060 (tested both cards myself)
lofty pivot
eh depends on what he's playing on for his monitor though
9800x3d will be great for valorant if he's planning to also try run oled 1440p monitors
some would say required even if your plan is 1440p 480hz oled
severe phoenix
lofty pivot
the thing about valorant is you have to look at your 1% lows too. When there's a lot of utility on the screen you're not maintaining 450fps in a lot of cases
which is also unfortunately when you need the higher fps the most
on 1440p a 9800x3d would actually be really nice to have for valorant to keep those lows up
old marlin
https://preview.redd.it/1znq7cs674zd1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=a0bd41568b41f69305708779b...
is that an ai generated steamdeck
severe phoenix
Someones mockup of a Steam Deck 2 yeah
umbral heron
Oh, those touchpads are abysmal 
cosmic thunder
im using qhd 240hz monitor
umbral heron
For 240 any 7xxx or 9xxx CPU will do 
cosmic thunder
nicee
umbral heron
My brother has 7600X with 6700XT, smooth sailing when it comes to Valo
cosmic thunder
how about cs2? will it work smoothly with my gpu and 98x3d?
umbral heron
That I have no idea about, I'll ask him how CS2 works for him once I'm home 
lofty pivot
for 240hz you're fine, although honestly I'd still max out my cpu if my main game was valorant
fickle ore
you mean someone with middle income lol
somber forge
how about cs2? will it work smoothly with my gpu and 98x3d?
cs2 need why more gpu power then valo
umbral heron
CS2 needs CPU, way more than Valorant too 
somber forge
thats also true
if you have the money to buy 98x3d then go for it
you can later upgrade gpu without problems
cosmic thunder
that's exactly my plan for the next year or 2026
jaunty marsh
CS2 needs CPU, way more than Valorant too <:hanaSusSips:1141243263362281492>
cs2 can run on a toaster
gusty nexus
cs2 can run on a toaster
My old GTX 1050 will say no 
jaunty marsh
how?
i ran it on an old intergrated graphics laptop
just go 1080x1080 and all lowes settings
umbral heron
Square CS? 
gusty nexus
just go 1080x1080 and all lowes settings
I don't need to lower my settings now because I have a new computer but before it was hard to hit 60fps low settings 1080p
jaunty marsh
I don't need to lower my settings now because I have a new computer but before i...
then i dont want to hear that cpu cause what?
i get like 1200 fps with my old computer
lyric hatch
1:1 goat scale
fair gull
1080x1080 and 1200fps sounds like a console person trying to pretend that they have a pc for gaming
umbral heron
I'll try it once I'm home, I'm curious
gusty nexus
then i dont want to hear that cpu cause what?
I don't understand ;-;
distant tapir
you mean someone with middle income lol
The price of a 4090 alone was around what I earn in a month. I'd feel like an idiot if I bought one.
cedar fog
does cs2 really hit 60fps on integrated
jaunty marsh
1080x1080 and 1200fps sounds like a console person trying to pretend that they h...
what?
somber forge
cs2 can run on a toaster
csgo yes, but not cs2
fickle ore
The price of a 4090 alone was around what I earn in a month. I'd feel like an id...
Yet most 4090 owners prob bought 4090 on credit lmao but yeah its kinda idiotic to buy if ur not rich
gusty nexus
probably like 55
Not 1200 FPS ? 
somber forge
1080x1080 stretch res
i prefer 1920:1440
jaunty marsh
what's specs of old pc
stupidly overclocked 1080 ti
cedar fog
I prefer using a larger physical monitor
jaunty marsh
and cpu
cedar fog
on cs2 or csgo?
somber forge
cs2 is more optimized
but also need a lot more power
and in low settings it looks shit
umbral heron
Makes my GPU whine
jaunty marsh
what cpu do you have 😭
raw zephyr
1080x1080 will stretch your eyes and turn you into an alien 👽
somber forge
what cpu do you have 😭
78x3d and 7900xtx
cant get constand 360fps with my settings
fair gull
so the 1080ti gets almost as many fps as the 4090 is what you wanna tell me
somber forge
Makes my GPU whine <:havo:975821613415157860>
my gpu wine is crazy
umbral heron
Which XTX do you have? 
jaunty marsh
so the 1080ti gets almost as many fps as the 4090 is what you wanna tell me
on csgo
yeah
somber forge
Which XTX do you have? <a:kleenotes:879699556550475816>
the worst (hellhound)
jaunty marsh
on settings that make it hard to see people
cedar fog
tbh I feel like 400 fps would be like the highest you'd get on a 1080ti on csgo
at 1080x1080
fair gull
id feel like thats the max at even lower ones
umbral heron
Ah, I see
I have ASRock Phantom, thought that it's just that AIB
jaunty marsh
id feel like thats the max at even lower ones
its not hard for csgo and cs2
fair gull
sure
somber forge
Ah, I see
I have ASRock Phantom, thought that it's just that AIB
hellhound was the only one that fit my case
and got it for a good price
4080s fe would fir better, but price ist way to high
somber forge
its not hard for csgo and cs2
max i got in cs2 was avg ~800fps with 1920:1080 and low settings
umbral heron
Eh, my 6700XT wouldn't fit my brother's case
So we just cut the case around it 
In my case I have about 5mm clearance between GPU and fans
cedar fog
Eh, my 6700XT wouldn't fit my brother's case
So we just cut the case around it <...
just get an extender and set the GPU down next to the case
umbral heron
I think it's time to get a new case anyway
The amount of duck tape and zip ties there is a bit too high
jaunty marsh
what case should i get for my pc? i got no idea what is good
i just have some old case from a prebuild i got 7 years ago
alpine patio
what case should i get for my pc? i got no idea what is good
look at fractal first
there a large variety of popular types there
so you get an idea on what u like
somber forge
what case should i get for my pc? i got no idea what is good
what are you looking for in a case
umbral heron
jaunty marsh
what are you looking for in a case
a case that fits a 3 fan GPU
umbral heron
It's absolutely perfect for my shitbox 
umbral heron
jaunty marsh
somber forge
a case that fits a 3 fan GPU
should fit a atx mainboard?
somber forge
regular size everything
i like the fractal north(xl)
cedar fog
when I build my next PC I really wanna go like
atx route small af
maybe one of those custom machined cases
mini atx
jaunty marsh
that would be sick
but idk im more a performance>looks type guy
i just want a new case cause i dont have the side panel anymore
somber forge
atx route small af
why not itx then?
cedar fog
idk tbh I forgot the terminology
I just know when I last looked it was hard to get good motherboards with all the featuresets
on some of them
somber forge
I just know when I last looked it was hard to get good motherboards with all the...
what you need on your mainboard?
cedar fog
nothing rn not buying a PC lol
I just recall from prior research
I also recall they get increasingly more expensive
like some of them were $600 at the time
somber forge
asus hast x670e and x870 itx board with that price
but they are pointless
umbral heron
Just get B650 
One PCIe 5.0 for SSD, rest PCIe 4.0s, what else would you need
somber forge
https://www.xtia.design/products/xtia-xproto-l
would like this case if i switch
cedar fog
my cat would probably knock that over
somber forge
throw the cat away then
cedar fog
never
latent mural
i try he comes back
somber forge
my cat would probably knock that over
train your cat not to
cedar fog
they don't do anything I tell them to
they still meow for food at random hours of the day
umbral ermine
anyone know why they not selling black zinc alloy case for 80he module in NA region?
latent mural
they are?
cedar fog
for the module alone
umbral ermine
yeah
jaunty marsh
umbral ermine
I just got paid and ready to order but like
umbral heron
There used to be all case choices with module 
umbral ermine
for the zinc alloy I only see the raw color, the rest are up there
jaunty marsh
There used to be all case choices with module <:Think:546937411867901962>
why dont they just sell cases too 😭
alpine patio
anyone know why they not selling black zinc alloy case for 80he module in NA reg...
bug probably
only for na ya
i think they know
been there for weeks
marsh glade
hopefully they fix it soon
I'm planning to get one lol
Fixed
umbral ermine
awesome!!!
alpine spear
Can i replace my existing UwU keypad switches from Lekker L45 V1 to V2 when it arrives? does it fits or works?
umbral heron
Sure, I did that
alpine spear
Sure, I did that <a:duck_bopping:1116002209012928545>
does that works when you swapped from Lekker v1 to v2? it looks switch housing is different so
latent mural
they still work
umbral heron
does that works when you swapped from Lekker v1 to v2? it looks switch housing i...
Of course, why wouldn't they?
alpine spear
Of course, why wouldn't they? <:Think:546937411867901962>
ok thank you for the confirm :p
rough osprey
so 9800x3d
balmy vector
Edible
steady sail
tho the temps are cooler
cursive summit
As expected it’s the new best gaming cpu
Better than expected surprisingly
Pricing a bit steep but it's a great GPU
Where's Intel's X3D eh? They been working on that tech for a few years now
cursive summit
I'm surprised to see Intel stock go up today
Prolly cause of the news that AMD would take over Intel (the report was false though, neither ARM or AMD nor Qualcomm are taking over Intel yet)
cedar fog
is it still related to them being bought
steady sail
userbenchmark
ashen spindle
why is Intel up 6% today
There’s this little thing called election that happened
Which made not just Intel but many stock go up and some down
cursive summit
Why'd Intel's stock go up if their earnings are very likely down?
cedar fog
they also had talks of being bought out recently too
cursive summit
Yeah I'm looking, 6 days ago, though "better-than-expected earnings "
cedar fog
mb
cursive summit
Anyway good to see AMD winning, Intel should get their stuff together and launch an X3D product
steady sail
i just wanna forgor about the Intel Core Ultra name, can we go back to intel core i7 or i9 
cursive summit
Imo Intel should segment their CPU line into HEDT and gaming, with X3D being their gaming line and what would be the new Xeon being their current stuff
Intel rn does better at software, AMD excels at gaming
cedar fog
I'm a simp for Intel
Intel is just letting amd win rn and then they're gonna drop a super mega gaming CPU that outperforms amd by 1000%
and have 1 billion in puts in amd
cursive summit
Been a while I've seen anyone mention Intel Xeon anymore, everyone just either buys Threadripper (which I haven't heard of lately either) or just Epyc
cedar fog
and make billions
oblique solstice
the black coating on my shift key is slowly fading away/being worn off, anything i can do to restore it? usually my pinky always sits there, 60he+
analog sinew
you can paint it back on but a new keycapwould be easier, doubt it lasts long. buy doubleshot for the future so this isnt an issue
gusty kiln
Rip, them tariffs are going to be rough on tech prices
latent mural
the black coating on my shift key is slowly fading away/being worn off, anything...
are you using the default keycaps or like cheap ABS ones?
double shot pbt its impossible for the legends to fade because it's the same material
oblique solstice
are you using the default keycaps or like cheap ABS ones?
default keycaps that came with the 60he
whats doubleshot?
gusty kiln
60he comes with doubleshot pbt, shouldn't be wearing down
Might be skin oil collecting?
fair gull
we dont do dyesub abs afaik
only dyesub pbt and for abs the best we have is laser etched
gusty kiln
only dyesub pbt and for abs the best we have is laser etched
And the abs only came with the early wootings right?
Though 60he only used pbt
fair gull
no abs is our default set for iso etc
fair gull
60he and newer have double shot PBT for ANSI only though
latent mural
might just be getting the shine
gusty kiln
Yeah hadzo is from the EU
Might just need to get a nice keycap set
Laser abs will only get worse over time
fair gull
people from the eu can order ANSI boards
steady sail
im from the EU as well with an ANSI board 
fair gull
and for iso the default recommendation the cart does is ABS but you got a choice to go PBT as well
if you truly checkout default youd get no keycaps
gusty kiln
Just gotta see what hadzo ordered
@fair gull also good luck with any potential tariffs next year
fair gull
?
gusty kiln
Going to be some interesting time again
gusty kiln
?
Dumb American politics
Heavily implied that there will be import tariffs next year on goods
analog sinew
there will be a lot of things happening...
cedar fog
Heavily implied that there will be import tariffs next year on goods
The president doesn't just make up a policy and it gets enforced instantly
I highly doubt it would even pass legislation
it was more of a threat implied directly to john deere
ashen spindle
did you forget the years where he used executives orders to basically do exactly that?
not to mention a lot of consumer electronics are temporarily excempt form current tarrifs so removing that exception to start hitting it is even easier
gusty kiln
I highly doubt it would even pass legislation
The republican also control both the house and senate
It's open season on everything but the most ridiculous policies
cedar fog
did you forget the years where he used executives orders to basically do exactly...
They can be revoked by the following president alongside Congress having a say if needed
ashen spindle
great so it's only 4 years of tarrifs, that doesnt make it better or changes anything during that time lol
cedar fog
Realistically consumerism is already at an all time low
most people aren't spending much currently
ashen spindle
that makes it even worse then lol
cedar fog
Nah I honestly don't think the tariffs are that bad
latent mural
hm yes
technology politics
ashen spindle
so you say consumerism is at an all time low, tarrifs make it cost more, that makes it worse then lol
cedar fog
Id rather see the companies in our stock market suffer during YTD reportings
gusty kiln
hm yes
technology politics
Tsmc Arizona looking real spicy atm
cedar fog
there is a really unrealistic precedent of companies surpassing their ytd every subsequent year
if consumers aren't buying products that aren't essential they'll be forced to change something
fickle ore
there is a really unrealistic precedent of companies surpassing their ytd every ...
you do realize ytd's need to be passed every year because of inflation?
nominal gains NEED to go up all year every year
cedar fog
Employment rate has been good since 2008
gusty kiln
Rather a housing market crash than the stock market
fickle ore
Employment rate has been good since 2008
and how it will be if market crash? bc it aint crashing unless ppl stop spending
cedar fog
Tariffs
fickle ore
make it make sense bc im not seeing it
cedar fog
both outcomes are fine
gusty kiln
If intel foundry were actually good, they would be golden right now
cedar fog
make it make sense bc im not seeing it
People already aren't spending
gusty kiln
But everybody of waiting for tsmc Arizona
cedar fog
the majority of people are living paycheck to paycheck
fickle ore
People already aren't spending
not true 😄
crisp granite
People already aren't spending
the US consumer is somehow keeping it afloat
especially with that buy now, pay later crap
that's just phantom debt waiting to implode
gusty kiln
Our debt grows each year without stopping
cedar fog
not true 😄
are we talking necessities like rent, food, health products or ?
gusty kiln
The MAMGA/MANGA stock companies have been spending like crazy
cedar fog
delinquency rates have been going up
interest rates have been going up
lots of this current market situation has been fed trying their hardest to maintain it
we've added more jobs into the market and have increased unemployment rate
I personally think this growth is temporary
because people are basically forced to spend
and eventually it's going to catch up
it's not like inflation goes down and our prices go down either
yet our GDP growth is also supposed to slow down
analog sinew
gahd damn the 9800X3D is cooking
oblique solstice
Might be skin oil collecting?
dont think so it looks like its wearing down
analog sinew
got a pic?
oblique solstice
got a vid
latent mural
ABS develops a shine when used just a fact of ABS
oblique solstice
does look a bit shiny under light
under a certain angle of reflection, but still kinda "worn down" very noticable
quick kayak
what’s the best ergonomic chair i can get under $200
oblique solstice
well would you post it
here or?
rough patrol
gahd damn the 9800X3D is cooking
doesnt look worth upgrading from 7800X3D tho
analog sinew
yeah thats shine
gusty kiln
gahd damn the 9800X3D is cooking
Yeah, way better than anyone though
analog sinew
doesnt look worth upgrading from 7800X3D tho
well yes if you got the nr2 gaming cpu its not worth
oblique solstice
soooo its not an issue? is there any way t oget rid of it
it looks off on sunlight tbf and on white light
analog sinew
soooo its not an issue? is there any way t oget rid of it
you can try soap/alcohol but it might just be rubbed smooth
latent mural
there's not a way to reverse it I don't think
analog sinew
you could rough sand it ig? but thats really hacky
gusty kiln
what’s the best ergonomic chair i can get under $200
Save a little more to get a staples Ayalon on sale
gusty kiln
Doubleshot caps are really cheap now, you can get for like 20
oblique solstice
so not abs? better plastic?
ashen spindle
wooting has PBT keycaps, you want those for no shine
oblique solstice
does wooting sell 60he pbt caps
oblique solstice
aight ill check it out then ty guys
analog sinew
all ABS develops shine overtime
just a fact of the material
and other materials too
oblique solstice
and also another thing, i sent a support request 2 weeks ago, my spacebar went wonky on the right side
analog sinew
it's just wear after all
oblique solstice
caps went rattly as well
still havednt heard back but the spacebar bugs me the most, the right side sinks before being actuated
gusty kiln
Probably need to adjust the stabilizers on both keys
oblique solstice
havent touched anything yet waiting for a reply before i diy it
but its been 3 weeks since my email darn
astral haven
Yeah, way better than anyone though
https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/images/relative-performance-games-1920-1080.png
"better than anyone thought"
hasnt it always been zen 5%?
ashen spindle
tpu doesnt really align with many other findings
astral haven
the results that are the same match, tpu just tests more games
ashen spindle
astral haven
oh hmm starfield is different
ashen spindle
GN had even bigger outliers with BG at 33%, they also have a 5% lead in FF14 benchmark but that includes very gpu bound scenes so in use that is bigger there too
cedar fog
anyone got escape from tarkov stats
ashen spindle
yes, you will still play vs cheaters
astral haven
were these on 24h2?
ashen spindle
lyric hatch
all ABS develops shine overtime
just a fact of the material
And all PBT aside from MTNU has some kind of ABS blend mixed into the PBT
astral haven
tpu was on 23h2 apparently according to amds recommendation
vapid ruin
Dayum x3d kicking ass
latent mural
And all PBT aside from MTNU has some kind of ABS blend mixed into the PBT
not really super familiar with what mixes are used tbh
all I know is most pbt keycaps don't shine
lyric hatch
not really super familiar with what mixes are used tbh
all I know is most pbt ke...
They do is what I'm saying and depending on how much ABS they can vary greatly on how fast it happebs
latent mural
hm, all double shot pbt I've used haven't had any shine developed over time
could be I just got lucky with them
analog sinew
could be I just got lucky with them
it's ur soft hands
latent mural
funny, because I have corrosive oils on my hands
analog sinew
funny, because I have corrosive oils on my hands
latent mural
pitted my thrustmaster warthogs metal pretty quickly
vapid ruin
hmm, if I go from 5600g to 9800x3d, I effectively be getting 2x the performance at least
astral haven
if you have a gpu
vapid ruin
if you have a gpu
I got a 4070tiS
astral haven
real question tho is spending an additional ~400+ram on a 98x3d worth over 57x3d
vapid ruin
Plus I can still have the benefit of Igpu since that's the reason I got the 5600g in the first place. Freeing up as much vram as possible for AI
vapid ruin
real question tho is spending an additional ~400+ram on a 98x3d worth over 57x3d
Also considering that
aliexpress 5700x3d comes in clutch
analog sinew
how is that saving you money
analog sinew
how are you getting it cheaper off ali
vapid ruin
how are you getting it cheaper off ali
Ali version has those for like 1.5x less compared to what I can buy in my place. Though without boxes of course, just the cpu inside a plastic package
analog sinew
so at best used/open box and at worst scam
I wouldn't buy hightech that isnt even made in china on ali but you do you
astral haven
I wouldn't buy hightech that isnt even made in china on ali but you do you
true in the us, elsewhere its different
gusty kiln
Excited to see 9950X3D, ultimate gaming and productivity
ashen spindle
I mean we still don’t know for certain if it’s double v$ or not on them
ashen spindle
idk how well the 7900x3d sold
might still make sense even if in low volume to sell defects
gusty kiln
Just gather them up and sell them as 9600x3d in late 2025
Microcenter exclusive again
cedar fog
is it so much better though
no I stopped playing the game
:( I had 2000+ hours
and I just quit
lyric hatch
Well now I just have to wait for new gpus to drop before upgrading my whole PC 
analog sinew
Well now I just have to wait for new gpus to drop before upgrading my whole PC <...
same
the pcpart picker list is growing
marsh pewter
Well now I just have to wait for new gpus to drop before upgrading my whole PC <...
you just like me fr!
lyric hatch
Can't wait, the fps increase is going to be 
marsh pewter
I just wanna get off of intel 11th gen 🤢
im tired of my stupid cpu getting stupid hot because intel is stupid and dumb
lyric hatch
I just wanna get off of intel 11th gen 🤢
Well I'm still on my 9700k, it's still holding on 
lyric hatch
The difference between a decent air cooler and aio is negligible
ashen spindle
its cooler than 7800x3d and that is dead silent on air
analog sinew
its cooler than 7800x3d and that is dead silent on air
lyric hatch
Averages what 64w when gaming should be pretty easy to cool that
analog sinew
oh yeah thats nbd
i was just scared it was gonna be some thermonuclear warhead for whatever reason
ashen spindle
It can go higher because the core are not beneath the cache now so it’s easier to cool them
analog sinew
yepo that sounded good
bright briar
where the canadians at i have a question for you
lyric hatch
i was just scared it was gonna be some thermonuclear warhead for whatever reason
Techpowerup tested on a NH-D15 and was averaging 60°C when gaming
bright briar
@unkempt lake have you bought from bestbuy website third party seller before?
analog sinew
Techpowerup tested on a NH-D15 and was averaging 60°C when gaming
music to my ears
unkempt lake
<@159037941916762112> have you bought from bestbuy website third party seller be...
No
smoky frigate
meanwhile I might need to get an actual watercooler for my 12900KS rofl
halcyon moss
Intel space heater is real
smoky frigate
with intel you get either space heater or laughable power
bright briar
gotta love america and how i would save $400
analog sinew
hmm i wonder if it is even worth to go for offset mounting on the 9800x3d
kinda doest seem that way
but at the same time it costs basically nothing
gusty kiln
Noctua provides it for free
bright briar
smoky frigate
man this blows, but at least it doesn't suck
balmy vector
Spits air out
bright briar
you questioning the nawk tuah abilities?
leaden nest
what sites are u guys trying to buy a 9800x3d from
looking at newegg but idk if ill be able to buy one before bots pick them up
analog sinew
i dont think im buying it rn tbh
marsh glade
looking at newegg but idk if ill be able to buy one before bots pick them up
It's statements like this that make me really proud of how we launched the 80HE founder's campaign in a way that allowed end-consumers to get first dibs on the first batch of keyboards, and forced all bulk buyers and B2B purchasing into the second batch
bright briar
this has been posted in this server like 5 times
scarlet jackal
latent mural
wheres the sub?
analog sinew
wheres the sub?
🪞
latent mural
finally, i am become the yellow submarine
smoky frigate
time to read the catcher in the rye I guess
latent mural
I liked thrower in the rice better
analog sinew
better to piss in the shower than to shower in the piss (unless you like that)
smoky frigate
how else is anyone supposed to win that coveted golden shower award
vagrant pagoda
umbral heron
analog sinew
magic minnow
mild dome
Wouldn't think glass company could've forced Apple to bow, but if what that contract says is true, that's kind screwed up.
astral haven
well apple i think actually has separated themselves with their ceramic shield
but corning has an insane monopoly on any glass that isnt for cameras pretty much
oh wow i need to read the article, didnt know that corning was making "ceramic shield"
ashen spindle
yeah I never even thought about it but it makes a lot of sense
umbral heron
50m
magic minnow
Apple keeps spoiling us with all these new features!!!! https://9to5mac.com/2024/11/05/ios-18-how-long-iphone-charge/
astral haven
"new"
umbral heron
You must be joking 
magic minnow
You must be joking <:hanaSit:1040501917165559808>
I am Cal lol
gloomy linden
magic minnow
dull hollow
no you're attackonkitten
aTakonKitten 
latent mural
one of us! one of us!!
magic minnow
latent mural
welcome to the takmind, brother
latent mural
our numbers grow ever larger, brother
umbral heron
A virus! 
latent mural
soon, takslock
dull hollow
A virus! <:neuroCross:1149082870535704596>
we wont stand for this slander!
latent mural
we will accept you with open arms brother
lilac shoal
Hey guys ! It's been months since I'm saving up to upgrade my poor computer, and when I finally decide to commit to the 7800x3d even though I was worried about making a mistake, they release the 9800 one 
I'm not sure if it's right to ask this here, if it isn't I can just delete the message
I actually have a Ryzen 7 1700X (yeah, old), so AM4, so in any case I was going to switch to AM5, because ANY cpu will be a major upgrade for me 
My GPU is an rtx 3060, I plan to upgrade it in the future, like 1-2 years
MB I will be going onto the Tomahawk Wifi B650 (seemed like the more convenient for me), unless there is a better choice
I don't know a lot about the details of things, only what I was able to find, so I'd like to ask people that know better than me what's their opinion on the 9800 instead of the 7800 ? The price seems to be about the same, or not too much more pricey (around 50-100€ more, unless the 7800 could have black friday deals (eu) which I doubt) so is it worth it to go on this one instead ?
Tasks include some basic rendering in blender, zbrush, other non really too intensive cpu tasks, and obviously gaming (competitive, single player, everything basically), so I was worried about the 7800 at first, but when I compared it to my actual one.. yeah
I have a 240hz 1080p monitor rn, but I'd like to go onto 1440p on the main one when I upgrade the gpu
I think I didn't forget something ?
Again, I'm sorry if I;m being a bother, but thank you for your time 
ashen spindle
you'll want the 9800x3d because it does a lot better in multithreaded for workloads like zbrush
umbral heron
For 1440p difference between 7800X3D and 9800X3D is very tiny, so...
latent mural
I'd go with the 9800/x3d just for general usage and multitasking
ashen spindle
for gaming alone its not a big difference but for production it does make quite a big difference
lilac shoal
Thanks a bunch, I really wasn't sure about this
I mean I thought it would just be better since it was new, but we never know
umbral heron
If you do a lot of work in Blender and ZBrush maybe wait for 9950X3D
Although 9800X3D is already a beast
unkempt lake
@lilac shoal get 7000 non 3d on clearance
astral haven
for best performance tho, youll get much more out of saving ~500 and keeping your motherboard, going 5700x3d, and spending 500 more on the gpu
unkempt lake
If you're doing production work and are at 1440 do you really need the extra x3d frames in gaming
ashen spindle
why would you suggest that when one aspect it gaming at 240hz...
unkempt lake
why would you suggest that when one aspect it gaming at 240hz...
Doesn't matter for shit like csgo and valorant
ashen spindle
yes it does
lilac shoal
If you do a lot of work in Blender and ZBrush maybe wait for 9950X3D <:Think:546...
Aren't those the one with double CCD trouble ? I was tempted by the 7950x3d at first, but saw a lot of issue on those
unkempt lake
Like
latent mural
it does lol what are you on about
unkempt lake
A non x3d can push that easy in esport stuff
ashen spindle
cs2 loves the vcache
umbral heron
Aren't those the one with double CCD trouble ? I was tempted by the 7950x3d at f...
Exactly why 9x3d, they're rumored to have 2 v-cached CCDs
ashen spindle
Exactly why 9x3d, they're rumored to have 2 v-cached CCDs
well, potentially, we dont know for certain
umbral heron
Hence rumored 
lilac shoal
But if that's the case, won;t the price be double the 9800x3d ? 
ashen spindle
Yes so you can go from like 500 to 600 fps
1% lows, when going to 1440p later it will matter more too
latent mural
But if that's the case, won;t the price be double the 9800x3d ? <:thinking:30818...
semiconductor manufacturing scales weirdly
lilac shoal
A non x3d can push that easy in esport stuff
I'm also playing singleplayer heavy 3d, and I need to have the power o try some dumb shits on my projects sometimes
astral haven
But if that's the case, won;t the price be double the 9800x3d ? <:thinking:30818...
nah, its usually about $200 extra, you arent also getting a second motherboard and ram and iodie
umbral heron
Aren't those the one with double CCD trouble ? I was tempted by the 7950x3d at f...
If you figure out CPPC on 7950X3D it's a great CPU, but the difference in some games while running on all 16 cores and only v-cached 8 it's sometimes astounding
unkempt lake
1% lows, when going to 1440p later it will matter more too
I think im just out of touch with the competitive gamer crowd tbh
ashen spindle
also x3d on zen5 doesnt only help gaming it also helps production workloads
because thats how much the IOdie is bottlenecking the cores
astral haven
again tho gpu is key atm, cpus rn arent moving that fast, if you cant already get a 5090 or w/e, its worth saving money on cpu to get more on gpu
especially for productivity
latent mural
at least those that aren't entirely threadbound like CPU encoding
astral haven
5700x3d is $500 cheaper once you include motherboard and ram
$500 in a gpu unless you already are near top end is gonna double perf
57>98 wont
lilac shoal
If you figure out CPPC on 7950X3D it's a great CPU, but the difference in some g...
I'm a complete amateur
I know how to mount a computer, but selecting parts is a whole another process, it took me so much time to figure out things correctly, like chosing the good ram, what to take care of, etc
So figuring out how to use different cores and everything, I was affraid I would mess something up
I did read about undervolting x3d cpus, and even only that makes me scared a bit
umbral heron
PBO is just a one switch in Ryzen Master
lilac shoal
because thats how much the IOdie is bottlenecking the cores
IOdie ? Is it like something that compose the CPU ?
lilac shoal
5700x3d is $500 cheaper once you include motherboard and ram
$500 in a gpu unles...
I thought about it, but since some deals are gonna come, I was going to make the switch to AM5 before my computer dies on me, and then upgrade the GPU later haha
ashen spindle
amds current desktop cpus are split into a chiplet that has the cores and a chiplet that has the Input/output like ram controller, usb por tlogics etc. and thats all on the IO die
lilac shoal
PBO is just a one switch in Ryzen Master <a:duck_bopping:1116002209012928545>
That simple ?
umbral heron
Basically, yeah
lilac shoal
amds current desktop cpus are split into a chiplet that has the cores and a chip...
Oh I see, thanks for explaining this
lilac shoal
Basically, yeah <a:nod:1167999126735167641>
I'm even more lost on what to do, now 
9950x3d won;t be until last year right ?
next
umbral heron
January/February
ashen spindle
well imo I'd say go for the cpu upgrade since that matters more while you use it, 9950x3d we dont know prices or how it works, and even if your gpu upgrade will come later, if you render something you can do that over night while not at the pc or similar, while during the usage you want to have faster responses
so unless you are limited by how fast your renders are done because you need to constantly send them out I would wait with the gpu
umbral heron
5080 
ashen spindle
but that comes down to what you use it for
lilac shoal
I'm not limited in time, my actual CPU does a render in 8 hours if it doesn't auto restart or crash or anything for some basic projects sometimes, and I think the 9800 would be done in maximum 1 hours on what I do... so.. yeah
astral haven
nah, its still 8 cores and 80 watts
cpu architecture is only about twice as good as then so if it was 8 hours, now itll be 4 maybe 3
ashen spindle
it depends, if its avx accelerated it will be much shorter than 3
but idk the current status of zbrush optimizations
lilac shoal
I honestly don't know about the details, but if it's 3 hours then I can do 3 a day instead of 1
lilac shoal
but idk the current status of zbrush optimizations
I honestly can't tell, always has been long as heck for me
ashen spindle
the imo biggest benefit is that big files will also load faster and are easier to use in the viewport, which can be much nicer than the total rendertime of a completed product
umbral heron
Ah, ZBrush doesn't have GPU accel
So maybe 16 cores is not that bad of an idea
lilac shoal
the imo biggest benefit is that big files will also load faster and are easier t...
That's true yeah, I didn't think about that
astral haven
could also export to blender, and render on gpu in 5 minutes lel
lilac shoal
Ah, ZBrush doesn't have GPU accel
So maybe 16 cores is not that bad of an idea <...
ZBrush is not my main one, so if only this one is slow but I can save 300+€ it's good for me
umbral heron
Then back to x800
ashen spindle
it's going to be a very solid and futureproof option for both work and gaming until you get hired at a job that just renders on a 64 cores server
lilac shoal
Then x800 it'll be Will there be a need to undervolt or something since it sill is a x3d ?
ashen spindle
nope runs fine on stock
umbral heron
You can, but don't have to, I run mine on stock
lilac shoal
(yeah as you can see my keyboard has trouble with [t], can't wait for my wooting to come home 
)
So undervolt really just is for... what ? Supposedly better performances ?
astral haven
intel lol
agile slate
How has AMD's HW encoder been lately? I know about 2-3 years ago I was comparing it to QuickSync on Intel and Intel was still quite a bit better at encoding streams
umbral heron
AMF? Not good...
astral haven
How has AMD's HW encoder been lately? I know about 2-3 years ago I was comparin...
meh, use nvidia
ashen spindle
So undervolt really just is for... what ? Supposedly better performances ?
it helped on the older x3d chips due to the heat getting trapped more which was a bigger issue and is not one this generation
umbral heron
Intel>Nvidia> ... >AMD
agile slate
Bleh
astral haven
although intel is still the only company that works with the high quality sony and canon files (4:2:2)
agile slate
meh, use nvidia
I do, but I use my Nvidia card to encode local saved 4k120 footage, then use my CPU encoder to send off to twitch.
astral haven
on the other hand nvidia can bruteforce it in compute
umbral heron
Intel>Nvidia> ... >AMD <:hanaSusSips:1141243263362281492>
For encoding Mark 
ashen spindle
for twitch amd is more than fine now
for twitch any of the vendors has quality that doesnt look different due to twitchs low bitrate even with the latest improvements
agile slate
My other option, though way overkill, when I upgrade to the 5000 series GPUs, put my 4000 series into the same machine, then I just have it do all the encoding.
astral haven
nah nvidia still is noticeably better at h264 low bitrate
astral haven
for twitch any of the vendors has quality that doesnt look different due to twit...
amd has only caught up on h265 low bitrate
remember the higher the bitrate the less the encoder matters
when its rough you need all you can get
umbral heron
My other option, though way overkill, when I upgrade to the 5000 series GPUs, pu...
Pretty sure that A380 would be more than happy with such encoding
And use way less power
agile slate
Pretty sure that A380 would be more than happy with such encoding <a:duck_boppin...
I actually completely forgot that intel had dedicated GPUs now, I may just pick one up to use for my low bitrate encoder.
lilac shoal
it helped on the older x3d chips due to the heat getting trapped more which was ...
Oh speaking about cooling, I never used AIO so I still use air (seems to take less maintenance and stay alive longer )
I have a big air cooled case, and a midrange cooler (I think it's an old dark rock pure 2 or somehing ? never failed me at least)
I suppose that it's enough for a cpu since the case does ventilate a lot (nzxt h7 flow 2022), but should I still consider taking a better cooler ? Like a noctua dh15 or it'll be more than fine ?
astral haven
i still havent seen testing of a380 as a dedicated encoder card
idk if it works with quicksync if its not an intel cpu
nor does intel publish if it supports 4:2:2
ashen spindle
Oh speaking about cooling, I never used AIO so I still use air (seems to take le...
the 9800x3d uses very low power compared to intels last gen or such, air cooling is more than enough
umbral heron
Oh speaking about cooling, I never used AIO so I still use air (seems to take le...
Ya stick a Peerless Assassin for 40€ and you're good to go
ashen spindle
^
or if you have one you can keep that
that works just fine
just check if the mounting bracket fits on the AM5 socket
magic minnow
well imo I'd say go for the cpu upgrade since that matters more while you use it...
I need to get rid of my 7950X3D
Slow ass chip
umbral heron
lilac shoal
Alright, thanks a bunch for all of this insight, I didn't think about the cpu cooler socket so I'll check that out right now, and if it doesn't fit I'll follow Calslock's recommendation !
Is there anything I need to know for when I do install the new system ? Like, new windows debloated maybe, bios modifications, or I can just follow something on youtube about the specific MB maybe ?
ashen spindle
amd has only caught up on h265 low bitrate
I think the latest version of twitch enhanced broadcast means everyone can use h265
its a bit confusing since the ehanced beta is both open and closed and its not clear what the closed ebta testers get
umbral heron
Alright, thanks a bunch for all of this insight, I didn't think about the cpu co...
If anything use official Windows and de-bloat it yourself, do not install any alternative distros
For BIOS just update to newest version and you're good to go
As for motherboards if you don't need more go for B650 with PCIe 5.0 NVMe slot, I use ASRock's stuff for almost 5 years now and I really like them
astral haven
I think the latest version of twitch enhanced broadcast means everyone can use h...
big if true, but twitch rn is kinda sketch
ashen spindle
I mean on youtube you can send AV1 on like 50k bitrate so even better xD
lilac shoal
If anything use official Windows and de-bloat it yourself, do not install any al...
Yeah for sure, I'll have to rebuy a key tho but it's alright haha
I think I never did update a bios, but it's just a button that you press while the computer is on right ? (my MB is a b350 rn so I never bothered)
I was thinking of taking the msi tomahawk, but it doesn't have the 5.0 nvmie I'll have to take a look at this
ashen spindle
if you have a windows account it just links the key to that, no need to rebuy windows codes
lilac shoal
Oh that's nice
umbral heron
For BIOS yeah, basically put .bin on a flash drive, stick on the back, press button, done
lilac shoal
That .bin is on the manufacturer site then ?
umbral heron
Yup, should be on page for given motherboard
astral haven
there are instructions and a download with everything you need
there should be a bin and a program to rename it
umbral heron
Just do not put .zip and wonder why it can't detect it like I did several times 
lilac shoal
Alright I'll be careful of that then
astral haven
i recommend using the menu in the bios rather than the button if everything is working
lilac shoal
Just to be safe I assume ?
astral haven
its easier and you get a progress bar
lilac shoal
Oh
astral haven
safety is the same, if your power goes out youll end up pressing the button anyways
umbral heron
astral haven
how long until its on the deck?
latent mural
they're still not even on kde6
astral haven
how long until its on the deck
latent mural
a duration of time one may consider significant
umbral heron
Valve is working on reworking Wayland a bit with their KDE6 changes, so... few months I guess
quick kayak
Save a little more to get a staples Ayalon on sale
i currently have a staples chair and it frickign sucks
um sced to get anything staples related
astral haven
staples doesnt make chairs, they rebrand from a variety of sources
the ayalon is quite excellent
quick kayak
staples doesnt make chairs, they rebrand from a variety of sources
the ayalon is...
i got the hyken and i had to like do everything for it to be slightly comfortable
like seat pad and take off the lumbar
BUTT the good thing is i got warranty so if it breaks i can get a refund
astral haven
yea but for $80 its not bad for the people that it does fit
quick kayak
Will i get a refund of what i paid or what the chair is worth now
because i paid like $150 then lol
quick kayak
o the ayalon has a coupon rn for $50 off on it
lol they still selling it at this price
quick kayak
probably pre black friday antisales
do you think this chair is good ? Theres a guy selling it locally for $200
https://www.autonomous.ai/office-chairs/autonomous-chair-ultra?is_open=true
astral haven
no clue
gusty kiln
i got the hyken and i had to like do everything for it to be slightly comfortabl...
I upgraded from the hyken to the ayalon and worlds better
The ayalon is a rebranded eurotech vera with a different back rest
And the eurotech vera is one of best under 500
quick kayak
hmmm Ok thank u
sudden imp
do you think this chair is good ? Theres a guy selling it locally for $200
http...
It looks similar to HM embody
distant tapir
Chairs are super ultra risky buys without testing them.
If you're like me then you live somewhere where you can't test them. So it's a pain in the ass and a random choice.
quick kayak
staples is rad cause u can go and test them
lyric hatch
Don't have much choice unfortunately where I live
distant tapir
Don't have much choice unfortunately where I live
Same.
quick kayak
but its not really accurate because whos going to sit in each chair for like a hour to test it
gusty kiln
At around 600-700, remanufactured steelcase leap v2 are pretty nice
lyric hatch
but its not really accurate because whos going to sit in each chair for like a h...
That's true but you should be able to immediately tell for some things if it's going to be really bad
gusty kiln
The hyken was bad because the mesh sank over time
Became really uncomfortable
High quality foam seat for me only now
Unless it's an aeron
quick kayak
The hyken was bad because the mesh sank over time
real
i had to get a big seat cushion off of amazon and remove the lumbar beucase the seat on the chair was digging into my thigh and the lumbar was digging into my back
gusty kiln
Yeah, it's even worse if you are a tall and/or big person
I'm about 6 feet and it never really fit me properly
5'8" was the ideal height for that chair
lyric hatch
Yeah lumbar you should be able to tell pretty quickly if it's a good fit when you try it out
Although in saying that proper lumbar support can take an adjustment if you're not use to having it
ashen spindle
yeah for the first few days I thoguht the chair was going to give me backpain lmao
gusty kiln
yeah for the first few days I thoguht the chair was going to give me backpain lm...
Proper posture is a weird feeling kek
leaden nest
any websites u guys are using to see if 9800x3d is in stock
im only on newegg so far
and also, would it be possible to compete with bots if i try to buy at 6 am sharp?
runic girder
Yo I’ve got the wooting 60 he + does anyone know if there is an option to enable adaptive color so it changes with my wallpaper?
steady sail
Yo I’ve got the wooting 60 he + does anyone know if there is an option to enable...
Nope
That requires wootility to run always
runic girder
So I have to change it manually
steady sail
Yeah
runic girder
Alr thanks
severe phoenix
halcyon moss
It's more needed than ever 'o
fair gull
no just integrate the 4090 in a ryzen cpu
or better yet in the intel cpus
then try figure out how to cool that pos
umbral heron
Kinda funny, how he's making one bad decision after another, and yet still will be bailed by US gov in case shit hits the fan, and even more so, he wanted $170M paycheck
Corporate welfare my ass
Just make CPUs that don't need small power plant and GPUs that'll actually be worth something for more than one use case, low/mid-end market would use one or two nice GPUs
old marlin
Kinda funny, how he's making one bad decision after another, and yet still will ...
it would still take quite a while until dGPUs would be worth their money to intel
money which they don't have atm
umbral heron
Gee, I wonder why https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/bypn9cdrc
analog sinew
its crazy how intel is just flopping about
umbral heron
Truth is they could see it coming from a mile, 5 years back or so
But why should they care? Government will bail them out anyway, other corporate partners and OEMs are still buying their chips, so why bother?
mild dome
I invested in Intel less then a week ago anticipating that it can only go up from here
latent mural
just like before Ryzen, intel didn't see competition or a need to innovate so they just rested on their marketshare until another company came in and took them by surprise
latent mural
I invested in Intel less then a week ago anticipating that it can only go up fro...
Nah I would've shorted the stock, but yea it's too big to fail they'll get government bailouts
alpine patio
🔥
latent mural
Mozilla has been dead a long time, everything is just the shambling corpse of what once was
cosmic thunder
chromium is taking all over the world
halcyon moss
and its a damn shame
cosmic thunder
every application in the earth except operating systems running on web tech
tough condor
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/intel-ceo-sees-less-need-for-dis...
Intel lost a lot of money on paper during their recent earnings report and have slashed a lot of staff. They're getting slaughtered in the consumer cpu segment while NVIDIA ate their datacenter lunch. Their 18A fab is going to make or break them. They never had a chance with ARC. Even AMD threw in the towel against NVIDIA in the high end market. The funny thing is NVIDIA isn't even trying that hard, they're just executing flawlessly in the datacenter/ai market and trickling down those architectures (albeit modified) to consumer geforce cards. They aren't even a gaming company anymore
ashen spindle
The article is overblown we get battlemage info next month and launch probably at ces, even if intel would suddenly outdo amd in dgpu sales, integrated is still more important so his comments make sense, there is a reason why amd does strix halo and why arrow lake had a similar configuration planned originally
Pat also only started at the company in 2021 and you usually don’t see effects from a ceo change in a company like that until 4-5 years in
umbral heron
ashen spindle
I mean that’s purely intel foundry related which is the only chance Intel has at recovery and he set it out as a 4 year plan so next year is the decoding factor
Wallstreet doesn’t care about what’s in 4 years they want next quarter earnings, maybe 2 at most
wheat plume
old marlin
at least they tried something new 
not much has changed from the S5 to the S7 otherwise
ashen spindle
currency exchange and VAT
cedar fog
480 usd prolly
wheat plume
They elected a fascist
They are extremely stupid
analog sinew
yeah then its ok
analog sinew
They elected a fascist
They are extremely stupid
yeah but i meant like financially
politically it was long clear
wheat plume
Oh yeah
That too
cedar fog
hey not all Americans are stupid
we got trump for example
very smart commits crimes and gets away with them
wheat plume
He's the most stupid of them all
ashen spindle
nono hes smart by getting the stupids to vote for him
umbral heron
Are we in #tech? 
wheat plume
He isn't getting away with them
Just keeps deferring the trials until he's president
analog sinew
Are we in #tech? <:hanaSusSip:1141243244378861588>
yes yes mr mod
cedar fog
Are we in #tech? <:hanaSusSip:1141243244378861588>
it's related since he is gonna put tariffs on electronics
obviously 😅
halcyon moss
better do it in #🎥│entertainment 😉
wheat plume
it's related since he is gonna put tariffs on electronics
Every product not from America
But yeah
Especially tech .....
60% no less
cedar fog
better do it in <#1257616620373676102> 😉
omg vegetable man you've saved us from doom
halcyon moss
i dont like this
gloomy linden
I like it
wheat plume
Wooting 80he gonna cost $320 in the US soon
gloomy linden
You are my favourite vegetable
ashen spindle
lana please dont believe any headlines like they are facts that happen in one day
latent mural
god i'm probably just gonna unplug my internet for the next week i'm so fucking tired of seeing fucking US politics
halcyon moss
Wooting 80he gonna cost $320 in the US soon
this is based on nothing
latent mural
i dont care leave me alone
wheat plume
god i'm probably just gonna unplug my internet for the next week i'm so fucking ...
Yeah lemme join you on that one
analog sinew
***i dont care leave me alone***
must be nice to be on the other side of the world
umbral heron
it's related since he is gonna put tariffs on electronics
Is this some kind of American joke I'm too European to understand?
latent mural
Yeah lemme join you on that one
you're the one that started it (again)
don't lie
analog sinew
haha
wheat plume
Xd
Someone mentioned Americans being stupid soooooo yeah
umbral heron
Today we got a bit more spicy Lanapost
wheat plume
:')
steady sail
Ah we love spicy lana
steady sail
latent mural
too spicy and painfully white
wheat plume
Yes xd
latent mural
steady sail
Im out of chilli oil
gloomy linden
I do have some wasabi mayonaise, kinda spicy
wheat plume
Chilli sauso
latent mural
chiri*
cedar fog
Im out of chilli oil
I put that shit in everything
wheat plume
Oi eat yapalayno and drink da chilli sawso cawx I'm a hard man
steady sail
I put that shit in everything
Yeah same and thats the problem bc i make waaay too less chilli oil
balmy vector
Give me anything spicy and it’ll be gone within seconds
wheat plume
Xd same
umbral heron
wheat plume
Sos
umbral heron
Tartar sauce
gloomy linden
I read that as winrar sauce
wheat plume
LOL
wheat plume
I read that as winrar sauce
That's what they send you if you actually buy the WinRAR license
old marlin
Oi eat yapalayno and drink da chilli sawso cawx I'm a hard man
good video
latent mural
well, i'm off to crawl under my rock away from the sun laser for a week until the garbageposting cools down
and to mark, i leave a present
a peace offering
analog sinew
i'm sure he will appreciate it
umbral heron
nervously looking at ban logs 
bold coyote
halcyon moss
it doesnt even get to the title part, it cant reach netflix
umbral heron
You gotta check your DNS, Jesse!
Or probably just reconnect to wi-fi
wheat plume
oh yeah, the DNS has Netflix under the Social Media category for some reason 🤦♀️
halcyon moss
..wat
cedar fog
wow
halcyon moss
what are you even using
wheat plume
what are you even using
a custom NextDNS profile
halcyon moss
no i mean like, which drugs
wheat plume
no i mean like, which drugs
caffeine
Wonder when Apple are going to remove the headphone jack on the desktops too
wheat plume
Framework have a headphone jack
Headphone jack + 4 or 6 expansion cards depending if you get the 13 or 16 inch model
halcyon moss
not on the 16" one
wheat plume
you need to get headphone jack expansion card?
halcyon moss
YES
old marlin
yea
wheat plume
🤦♀️ ah
old marlin
or ya know
umbral heron
I'd really like Ryzen 13 one
Sounds like a good replacement for my ol Thinkpad
wheat plume
sammmeeeee
old marlin
get a USB-C port and plug a CX31993 dongle in
wheat plume
I want 13 model AMD DIY
halcyon moss
the expansion cards are just usbc dongles
wheat plume
thunderbolt, I think
old marlin
most of them are not thunderbolt
halcyon moss
and if its amd its def not thunderbolt
wheat plume
The two on the back of the 13 model are thunderbolt afaik
halcyon moss
usb4 though
wheat plume
oh wow
halcyon moss
doesnt it pull air through the bottom?
wheat plume
the power button is also on the bottom too
you have to pick up the computer in one hand and use the other to press the button
umbral heron
This one supports M1 and M2, they're working on M4 version
wheat plume
idk how tf they will do an M4 one
unless they find a way to move the power button on the dock itself
umbral heron
A simple plastic lever? 
wheat plume
maybe
old marlin
or have a button going through
fringe tangle
hello I just received my keyboard it worked but when I launched the app none of the keys worked I can configure the colors but the keys do not write I think I must have done something wrong
steady sail
hello I just received my keyboard it worked but when I launched the app none of ...
can u send a picture about your wootility ?
analog sinew
can u send a picture about your wootility ?
i told em twice but apparently no 🤷♂️
fringe tangle
analog sinew
looks fine... and if you close it it has issues?
fringe tangle
I just installed the app but when I press a key it doesn't work
analog sinew
the app isnt supposed to be open when you use it
only to configure it
but it should work while open
halcyon moss
did you press save?
fringe tangle
did you press save?
No
halcyon moss
press save
analog sinew
there are no unsaved changes, this should work
fringe tangle
yes I know but the keys don't work I will try to restart my PC maybe
analog sinew
can't hurt
halcyon moss
i also dont understand the question
analog sinew
not sure what the issue was then
maybe analog SDK update or sth
but if it works 🤷♂️
ashen spindle
9800x3d at one vendor has just sold more today than all ARL DiY skus total in the country lmao
analog sinew
ARL?
steady sail
Arrow Lake
analog sinew
ah
analog sinew
yeah
arrow lake is only good for some productivity tasks and even then amd is no slouch there
and in gaming intel has no answer to x3d tech
steady sail
imagine Intel Core Ultra 285KX3D cpu's
distant tapir
How can Intel recover from this?
analog sinew
I do wonder why they havent added more cache. But it's probably not so simple.
analog sinew
How can Intel recover from this?
make em cheaper lol
steady sail
or intel would just go with Intel Core Ultra+ 285K
ashen spindle
recover what? desktop? its the smallest market and if nova lake is good it will be fine again
distant tapir
I'm excited for the write up Userbenchmark will do on it to see how they can twist the product into sounding bad.
ashen spindle
we need intel to be fine in desktop, intel doesnt need desktop as much
analog sinew
I'm excited for the write up Userbenchmark will do on it to see how they can twi...
well clearly the 9800x3d is sold out everywhere (cause of amd media shills!) therefore intel is superior cause it is in stock.
gusty kiln
Plenty of 9800x3d at my local microcenter
unkempt lake
gusty kiln
What do they do?
magic minnow
buying my 9800X3D
Nice 
trim crane
gusty kiln
buying my 9800X3D
fringe glen
how do i find a new case for a whooting 60he?
cedar fog
fringe glen
thanks
gusty kiln
As long as it uses universal 60% tray mount holes, it should work
digital grove
Any1 having trouble with their 80HE ?
ashen spindle
no
digital grove
Im having major problems with mine
ashen spindle
#1019755933959733258 look/post there
digital grove
i cant post in there
stray hazel
How long is the stock cable that comes with the 60HE in meters?
I heard someone on reddit say it was like 1.8 meters?
smoky frigate
I measure 1.94m exactly, without the plugs
analog sinew
I measure 1.94m exactly, without the plugs
you're a tall guy but why would your buttplug count?
smoky frigate
I confuse it with the one I plug my head with all the time lol
stray hazel
Also did Mansen Resign as part of the wooting team?
analog sinew
i dont think so, he just wanted off the wild discord ride
stray hazel
Ah
ashen spindle
discord was always just an add on to his actual customer support role
stray hazel
I gotcha
stray hazel
Lol
Is there a way I could get away with tachyon mode with 100% RGB off, and using a 2.5 meter usb cord?
The RGB is nice but for me being on the spectrum it distracts me
May just get Double Shot PBT cherry color keycaps
ashen spindle
if the cable is good enough quality yes
analog sinew
Is there a way I could get away with tachyon mode with 100% RGB off, and using a...
with a good cable yeah
stray hazel
Okay, could someone help me look for one? If so that would be incredibly helpful
Might have to be 3 meters tbh 💀
Does the 60HE support thunderbolt, if I have a thunderbolt port on my Motherboard?
empty wren
I think you are misunderstanding what thunderbolt is. Yes you can plug in your keyboard into a thunderbolt 3/4 female c shaped receptacle.
The keyboard runs just fine on a USB A 2.0 port.
stray hazel
I'm trying to use the keyboard on a seperate desk somewhat close to my PC, the stock usb c cord doesn't have enough length to reach over to where the keyboard will be.
Will it supply enough volts needed for the keyboard to use, to properly allow use from a far range at 3.5 meters?
empty wren
Will it supply enough volts needed for the keyboard to use, to properly allow us...
Like others said use a proper cable like good shielding and what not.
That is probably fine also
stray hazel
Good shielding? I don't know what that means
empty wren
The cable has many layers to it
So typically when people make say coiled cable it is bare bones as far as I have seen. It becomes a detriment to the keyboard performance. So I guess my point is find a good premade cable, unless you want to research how to make a good one yourself.
stray hazel
Okay, so you're thinking I can get away with a thick cable that is 4 meters, and still get tachyon mode, and rapid trigger?
astral haven
can also get an active cable, ive used some real cheap 25' usb extension cables for webcams, and those need alot more data than a keyboard
stray hazel
Will cause any voltage issues though?
empty wren
Okay, so you're thinking I can get away with a thick cable that is 4 meters, and...
It can be 3.5m not a big deal just keep in mind the cable quality and staying under 5m.
stray hazel
Okay, I just need help finding a good cable that is lol
I have no idea what's good what's not
stray hazel
I'm testing a VR headset cable that I use for my Oculus Quest 2
I love using the 60HE cuz it doesn't make an annoying clicky sound, I like the thocky sound it has
umbral heron
Ah, I found old photo of my server stack
It looked so small and innocent back then
analog sinew
hows it look now
umbral heron
Uh... that's my PC table
There's racks under the table and 2 racks in a small cabinet
