🔌│tech

[fringe rover]

Ok thanks I’ll probably check out the maya then

[thin axle]

This is a old take. Nobody buys high end laptops anymore because they're like $4,000.

[dull hollow]

anyone got some monitor arm recs?

[cedar fog]

Don't quite understand the comparison could you explain

[thin axle]

You should try the xm2 then, it's on sale on anazon.

[thin axle]

80 watt power draw is a bad take for most users who want gaming systems. If you read the article. The processing power is nearly the same as the 14900k and that means it will be comparable with the AM5. Which has a alot cheaper mobos you can buy to get into the latest processor. I expect Intel to lose more market share.

[cedar fog]

That's understandable yeah

this is the first socket change from Intel in a while no?

But still id be really happy to see less power draw from both amd and Intel going further tbh

[ashen spindle]

its been 2 gens usually for intel for a socket this one will be jsut one most likely

[open ruin]

Noooo

[thin axle]

It's pointless. But to be fair. I have a 12900K that pulls 200 watts when running cinebench. It is also broken, cause it crashes constantly.. lol

[open ruin]

What are the current prices right now

[thin axle]

I tried to buy a used 7800x3d* for $170. I got outbid by someone offering $400.. 😭

[open ruin]

I bought my wife a 5800x with a motherboard combo for 150

[cedar fog]

weren't amds next gen CPUs also pretty disappointing

I haven't really kept up in recent times

[open ruin]

7800x3d is 400?

[thin axle]

Yes.. but there is still hope that the 9000 series X3D will do better.

[ashen spindle]

for gaming it didnt do much yea

[cedar fog]

yeah that would be nice

[thin axle]

Lower power draw means you can buy a $30 cooling fan... lol

[cedar fog]

exactly

and that lets me get a newer Nvidia GPU with higher power draw

is Intel still working on their equivalent of stacked cache

[atomic dragon]

:v welp I just spent 300 bones on some new case fans

[ashen spindle]

yup but stacked cache on arrow lake got canned so not coming this generation

[cedar fog]

rip

I still believe in Intel making something cool in the future

one day they'll have their comeback

[ashen spindle]

I do hope so too

[cedar fog]

$22/share

😔

[steep creek]

i geniuenly hope so as well

[analog sinew]

intel is praying for china to invade taiwan rn

that could help em out

[smoky frigate]

rofl imagine that happened

then we truly arrived in the 21st century

[open ruin]

It can’t get any worse than this

This is 90s price

[dull hollow]

ended up buying this on samsungs website with a first responder discount on samsungs website so the totals 623

[cedar fog]

that's really good

stg this was like $700 the other day when I looked

[dull hollow]

thats around the average price for this

its usually 770

or something like that

[open ruin]

Oled’s nowadays are getting so good man

What a good time to be alive

[dull hollow]

hell yeah i cant wait for the true-blacks

[open ruin]

I wanna upgrade from my 165 hz 1440p monitor but it feels like a waste unless it’s a 4k monitor for me

[dull hollow]

i watch a lot of content so it'd be nice

[open ruin]

Ah I see, that’s pretty cool then

[cedar fog]

is that one better than the MSI mag one

[open ruin]

That’ll def do the job

Check the latency really good ones now are reporting 0.01 ms delay

But if that’s the only difference between a 1k monitor and 600 one then that's fine

[dull hollow]

theyre both oled 1440p 360hz

[cedar fog]

MSI mag is qd-oled

brighter it looks like

[dull hollow]

yeah

i dont need one that bright

qd oled is more prone to burn-in

[open ruin]

I think that’s the downside certain OLED panels struggle to pump out light

It makes a huge difference

[dull hollow]

samsungs been doing it for ages so ill trust them on it

[open ruin]

Check the year of the panel

Don’t be surprised if it’s not bright enough. I remember buying an LG panel I think last year brand new

And the brightness tbh was pretty underwhelming

It was another reason that I returned it

[late grove]

You have very, very, very high chance of receiving a poor QC panel. You may see scanline artifacts (similar to the old samsung VA monitors) and heavy flicker during VRR usage. As well as adaptive sync just straight up not working.

[thin axle]

What fans? I bought 9x high end phantek 140mm D fans for $90.

[atomic dragon]

Lian Li SL120 V2

[thin axle]

OLED burnout is common on those panels. I usually go for QLEDs for this reason.

[cedar fog]

it does have a 2 year warranty

I don't think the Samsung one even has a warranty on the panel

[late grove]

Yes but do be prepared for it. Carefully look for any possible defects and then have fun dealing with the hassle of packing it in and shipping it back.

[dull hollow]

product description says 250 and my current monitor is 350

i use it at 50% brightness

[open ruin]

I think you’ll definitely notice the difference. Hopefully natural light doesn’t hit your screen

My desk is close to my window and it messed me up man

[cedar fog]

it is a matte screen

[atomic dragon]

Best thing is to get a warranty from best buy and then enjoy OLED without a care in the world 💪

[dull hollow]

i got blackout blinds so im not worried about that

[dull hollow]

yeah samsung kinda shit with their warranty

its hard to get replacements if it isnt factory defective

[atomic dragon]

I got the G60SD from best buy slapped a warranty on it and in about a year or two I'll upgrade and hopefully OLED monitors at that point will be brighter

[lyric hatch]

[open ruin]

Some people say, because it’s a matt screen the color’s don’t pop out as much either but it helps with the screen burn out

That’s one of the fights OLED panels have been having few years ago

Idk nowadays

[atomic dragon]

I believe 2k nits to be my preference for highlights

[cedar fog]

id personal go for the brightest screen

I need my head to hurt after my day of gaming

[atomic dragon]

I wonder what happened there was a screen at some tech showcase and they had the world's brightest LCD monitor there or something

[open ruin]

If I’m not seeing dots after I’m done gaming then I don’t want the monitor

[atomic dragon]

What happened to it or what it was called idk but it was apparently blindingly bright

[leaden kiln]

Hate bright screens 💢

My eyes hurt using the 2016 vive because it was too bright and you couldn't change the brightness

[narrow cape]

man my oled coming next month

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-flashbang-friday-flashbang-csgo-cs2-cs-gif-10870382446082917936

[tawdry lantern]

Hi guys, i'm considering buying a new GPU soon, I'm using a 1080ti, I'm wondering if there's any GPU nowadays that has the same price point and longevity as the 1080ti on launch

[final flame]

nothing really tbh

[ashen spindle]

we cant see the future

[magic minnow]

4090

[atomic dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-glass-mortgage-brokers-are-better-one-stop-financial-group-red-gif-25293349

[final flame]

"same price point"

[magic minnow]

Inflation

[tawdry lantern]

nono well, inflation considered too

[atomic dragon]

Inflammation 💀

[final flame]

inflation isn't that high

[tawdry lantern]

so around 900?

[leaden kiln]

my ears burn

[final flame]

that's just what companies want you to think

[tawdry lantern]

but it would be best if i spend less than 800

haha

[atomic dragon]

Not the good doctor ahhh pfp ,😂

[leaden kiln]

the wjat

[atomic dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-meme-gif-15109026074961036062

[tawdry lantern]

thanks but this is like the best of the best right now lol. I'm still at 1080 resolution

[leaden kiln]

its just my face 😭

[magic minnow]

I loved my 1080ti though

[atomic dragon]

Best bet would be like idk a 7800xt imo

[magic minnow]

Amazing card

[final flame]

this is realistically what it would be

[tawdry lantern]

it still is but i was a bit sad when I played ff16, 40-60 fps on high

[magic minnow]

Add 1K and that’s what I spent on my 4090

[ashen spindle]

look for 4080 super prices, wait for 50 series early next year idk

[atomic dragon]

The old granny's sitting there with their money in a savings account thinking they actually earning a profit 💀

[analog sinew]

hey I do that too

i rly hate finance shit

[final flame]

I mean, it's better than no interest
sadly the interest tends to not be enough to combat inflation

[atomic dragon]

As it stands if you ain't got your money in stocks then your just not beating the inflation curve

[analog sinew]

i know

but I would rather drink toenails dissolved in acid than read through that stuff, it's vile I just dont wanna

fee this deposit that bla bla

[final flame]

best way is to invest in something like gold or put it into a fund of some sort
or relatively safe stocks

[atomic dragon]

Well tbf the dumb safe investment would be in the S@P 500

[analog sinew]

I would still have to read how to do that

[magic minnow]

I rather invest in my steam library

[atomic dragon]

My investment in manga 💀

I got about 3 grand in that

[analog sinew]

can you imagine how sick that would be

[atomic dragon]

Bout to have more if I fall victim to buying Dem Oshi no Ko volumes 👨‍🦯

[analog sinew]

i would like to be one of these they're really cute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramecium

they're my favorite microbial life

[smoky frigate]

the best are slime molds

[atomic dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/grox-spore-spore-grox-me-tbh-gif-24206204

[smoky frigate]

they are much more interesting than they sound, cause they pool together to form a larger animal and it's not really known how it works

[final flame]

ETF is very similar to ETH
both have very different meanings, yet both are considered investments

[smoky frigate]

slime molds are AWESOME

[atomic dragon]

If only I would have put 100 dollars into Bitcoin at the start

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1199848158394593460.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[final flame]

you didn't even have to put it in at the start, bitcoin dropped hard not too long ago, then peaked again at 74k

[atomic dragon]

Jokes on you id sold them at 100.01

Profit 💀

[smoky frigate]

I would have wasted all the 666 bitcoins on pizza orders

[tawdry lantern]

thanks again guys

[analog sinew]

what the dogma

[tawdry lantern]

getting gpu advice

[final flame]

coinbases USDC isn't so bad, it has some pretty good interest
iirc 13%

[atomic dragon]

Getting Gpu Advice: ❎
Getting Life Advice: ✅

[smoky frigate]

what's your best piece of life advice? mine is "be kind and forgiving, but don't be a pushover"

[atomic dragon]

The brain root is gonna be our next natural disaster

[tawdry lantern]

lol, get some roth set up, put some to match 401k, get a good lawyer friend and accountant 🙂

[analog sinew]

tell me o wise zeus

[open ruin]

Until it tanks sometime this or next year

[atomic dragon]

If all the top 500 growing companies all tank at the same time then we have larger problems

Gonna be like 2008 all over again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1199848158394593460.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[open ruin]

You don't need all 500, you only need the top 3-4

[analog sinew]

honestly you could also invest in gold and turn a solid profit

shit has been going up well

[smoky frigate]

or mercedes benz trucks

[atomic dragon]

My reaction when a meteor of gold slaps the earth and the price of gold falls: 🤕💀

Would be so funny though

[analog sinew]

yes

[atomic dragon]

Although that gold would be more valuable because ya know space gold has a ring to it

[analog sinew]

spaaaace

[final flame]

I was looking at palladium a while ago, damn it fell off

[smoky frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/space-tim-curry-gif-7935778

[lyric hatch]

If a meteor of gold big enough to disrupt the global gold market hit earth think we might have a bigger issue on our hands

[atomic dragon]

Or realistically invest in any material that is used for motherboards and processors and what not

[analog sinew]

rhodium is the craziest

and I also work with it

I have sealed ampoules of it that still say made in USSR

[final flame]

Rhodium looks nicer than silver lets be honest

[analog sinew]

rhodium is siick

[tawdry lantern]

Buy financial AI 😄

[final flame]

it's a silver, without the yellow creaminess silver has

[atomic dragon]

Invest in all the AI companies one of them will dominate eventually

[tawdry lantern]

let it do predictive scatter plot and dart to invest

[final flame]

💀

[analog sinew]

yeah shit was pricy for a hot minute

[final flame]

should've invested hard in 2016

[open ruin]

Probably crashed once bezo’s ship exploded

[analog sinew]

it was covid market disruption

honestly investing rn is probably a good idea

russia is the largest producer of rhodium

and the annual production is TINY

[final flame]

I only know of Rhodium as the cool audio plug metal

this stuff is everywhere

[analog sinew]

rhodium is extremely important for catalytical industrial applications

but ofc audiophile snake oil is always an option too

[final flame]

truly

[analog sinew]

it calms my mind to know that even some minutes before the heat death of the universe, someone will find a way to use the bose-einstein condensate to make an AUX connector

[final flame]

[final flame]

leave it to the audio community to shove as many precious metals as possible into a wire

[analog sinew]

lol

rt superconductors will not be discovered in a lab but by some audiobros building weird cables

[final flame]

I mean, considering how we have been sticking graphene of all things into cables, yes

[smoky frigate]

the grift that keeps on grifting

[final flame]

not to mention just the raw purity of the materials they claim they're using

6n is 99.9999% pure

[analog sinew]

you can get that but theyre probably not using it lol

[final flame]

I wouldn't be surprised if they are tbh, the price of this wire sure would make sense

[analog sinew]

but the grift part wouldnt

[final flame]

would have to be tested, but yea

if anybody has a spare electron spectrometer to test this, I'd appreciate it

[analog sinew]

I could ask the physicists but I dont know anyone in the department

[sweet swan]

I wish i did

[analog sinew]

I did test a 1969 silver half dollar once

[sweet swan]

I only learned about spectrometers in physics, never got to use one (my class only had 5 students so our budget was ass)

[astral haven]

ive got a gamma spectrometer, not particularly helpful
and an optical spectrometer is very very cheap to make these days

[magic minnow]

What the worm doing with silver

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/worm-national-worm-day-gummy-trolli-meme-gif-22350573

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/baffling-gif-24471655

[lunar sandal]

sigmas, hear me out on this one.

buy bitcoin 10 years ago

🤯

[smoky frigate]

you get a time machine, what do you do? prevent ww2 from happening or invest in bitcoin

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/327422/asustor-launches-lockerstor-gen3-nas-series-powered-by-amd-ryzen-cpus

4 bay nas for 1300

[ashen spindle]

no igpus meh

[gusty kiln]

Yeah idk why all these nas manufacturer are using amd processor without any igpu of any sort

Not even old ass vega graphics

[ashen spindle]

wait what cpus are these

do they have io dies that cant idle for shit

[gusty kiln]

Some weird embedded chips

V3C14

4c/8t

[ashen spindle]

hmm

cut down mobile ones maybe?

[fair gull]

https://youtu.be/zsA3X40nz9w it is time

[smoky frigate]

I do not remember these but it's cool as shit

mane.
I am an arrogant man and did my first GPU repaste a while ago without really checking what to do. it worked but my memory overheated, turns out I needed to replace the thermal putty. ordered thermal putty, replaced it, all good.
every sensor on my GPU stays cool now, way better than it was originally. but now I have the problem that my fans will spin way too high at light 1080p gaming or even the OS booting up. every sensor shows low temps.
so instead of trying to debug that I was thinking, what if I just replaced that with a compatible aio?

[umbral heron]

Lower the fan curve and forget about it

[smoky frigate]

did that, does nothing, the gpu ignores it

flashed another vbios, same thing

I tried greenwithenvy, nvidia-settings on terminal, windows driver and afterburner, they all do nothing

[sudden imp]

DO NOT FEED TO BABIES

[unkempt lake]

Fan curve

[unkempt lake]

Most fan curves are overaggressive

[smoky frigate]

#🔌│tech message

I should mention it runs cool even when I torture it, the fans somewhat randomly spinning to 100% is the only problem. I can't find an explanation. I squished one fan cable during attempt #1 and it has a dent in it, but I can't imagine that to be the problem

so the obvious solution is to repaste it all over again, and triple check everything

and if that doesn't work fuck it, I'll stick an aio on it

[analog sinew]

what gpu is it

[sudden imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y36LMS5y34A&t=3078s

[smoky frigate]

3080 12gb

[sudden imp]

What parts are new?

I’m curious if it’s worth watching the whole thing

[ashen spindle]

mostly just a recap and how some adapters are worse than the cables

[sudden imp]

So basically saying adapters are shit? And what we already know?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[sudden imp]

Thanks

Saved me an hour

[fair gull]

well

i think the nuances and failure analysis was quite informative

but cant really TLDR it imo

[sudden imp]

I may watch that part then

[ashen spindle]

just put it at 2x speed

[harsh flume]

im building a pc and im trying to decided on cpu i do gaming and heavy intensive editing i was gonna get the 7800x3d but the 7900x3d is literally cheaper should I just go 7900?

[ashen spindle]

no

[gusty kiln]

If the editing workload could leverage the extra cores then maybe

But there's a reason it's cheaper

[harsh flume]

ahh okay so pay the extra for the 7800?

[ashen spindle]

the issue is the dual ccd will make it worse whenever it doesnt use the right ccd, or will only use 6 instead of 8 cores total if it can use all one one ccd

7800 means you dont need to deal with any issues like that

[astral haven]

editing is pretty good on threadripper tho, if it were just gaming sure but...

[gusty kiln]

What's the pricing of both for you?

[ashen spindle]

if you really want more editing then the 7950x3d so you can do full 8 cores on either ccd for gaming and have 16 for work

but the 7900 isnt great unless you know how to handle it

[harsh flume]

7900 is 489 usd rn and 7800 is 540 USD

hmm quin would u suggest 7950 or 7800 at this point? i do a good bit of both

[ashen spindle]

idk what your budget is or anything

[gusty kiln]

Wait for 9000x3d

Rumors is end of month

[ashen spindle]

well 9800x3d, the rest coming likely next year

[gusty kiln]

Or at least this year

[harsh flume]

price point for 9000x3d?

[ashen spindle]

unknown its not out yet

[gusty kiln]

9000 have good improvements over 7000 in terms of productivity

[harsh flume]

quin id like to save the extra 200-300 and get a 7800 but if 7950 is going to really have that extra impact I will spend that extra money

[ashen spindle]

idk it depends what your work is, you need to check benchmarks for that

for some things it does a lot for others not so much

[gusty kiln]

What kind of editing?

Video is offloaded to gpu nowadays

[harsh flume]

videography my insta is https://www.instagram.com/jacekjarr/ thats the type of stuff i edit lots of colograding etc

[gusty kiln]

What software

[harsh flume]

davinici resolve

[astral haven]

ayy the correct software

[gusty kiln]

Hmmm resolve does like more cores

[astral haven]

https://www.pugetsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Ryzen-7000X3D-CPU-DaVinci-Resolve-Extended-Overall-Score.png

[harsh flume]

https://gyazo.com/dcd9c4a084f57d62034ec3b0cd99ef10 i can literalyl get it for about the same price as 7800

[analog sinew]

where x3d tho

[gusty kiln]

Lol then just get that then

But gaming will be slower

Are you an esport gamer or AAA

[harsh flume]

i only play gaames like val maybe some r6 maybe dabble in some rust

i use to be a big gamer but trying to do editing full time so trying to focus on that a bit

i am gonna have a 4080 super honestly dont care about the 20-30 frames vs the 7080

[steady sail]

U mean 5080 ?

[scenic swallow]

But why a 16 core cpu ? Take a r7 7700

[analog sinew]

7080, uncke works at nvidia

[ashen spindle]

because its for work

[unkempt lake]

Then you don't need x3d

[gusty kiln]

If you're doing less and less gaming, then 7950x should be a good investment

[steady sail]

Ah yes my favorite NVIDIA Ryzen 7080

[unkempt lake]

Just buy a 7900x or a 7950x non 3d

[gusty kiln]

Still gets 500+ fps in valorant

[harsh flume]

yeah @gusty kiln i think 7950 cuz now of days i do mostly editing some games here and there

[unkempt lake]

They're great if you just want a workstation and like... they still do great in gaming

[harsh flume]

how come no 3d?

[open ruin]

Anybody got the new nvidia 5090x3d

[unkempt lake]

Saves some money + you don't game that much

So you wouldn't really take advantage of it anyways

[astral haven]

no joke x3d would be super awesome on gpus if the cooling issues could be fixed

[astral haven]

also yes resolve is faster with non x3d, see here

[unkempt lake]

That too

[harsh flume]

@unkempt lake im looking at this one https://i.gyazo.com/dcd9c4a084f57d62034ec3b0cd99ef10.png

[open ruin]

500 for a cpu

[unkempt lake]

Its for work

Time = money

[harsh flume]

its a 80 dollar difference between 3d version dashi

[umbral heron]

Didn't we already made you a PC build?

#🔌│tech message

[harsh flume]

HAHA YOO

[unkempt lake]

Do you game enough to justify it?

[open ruin]

That logic also applies to being able to optimally buy something that’s not 500

[harsh flume]

yeah but i saw that 7950 was cheaper than 7080 @umbral heron and did some research

[open ruin]

Just get the x3d

[umbral heron]

Sure 7950 non-X3D will be cheaper than 7800X3D
Also worse in games

[harsh flume]

prob not tbh im gonna go reg

[open ruin]

Gaming or not if you’re dishing out That cash for “work” put in an extra 80 for that

[harsh flume]

yes @umbral heron ur right but the cpu u suggested was 7080

[unkempt lake]

He can get more ram

With that money

😛

[umbral heron]

7800X3D, yes

[open ruin]

What 128 gigs of ram

[harsh flume]

its another 150-200 dollars where im at

[unkempt lake]

Which will be better for productivity

[open ruin]

If it’s not video editing or CAD rendering he’ll prob be fine with just 16 gigs

[unkempt lake]

We aint talking about a gaming rig deegs we're talking about a workstation

[unkempt lake]

he literally mentionned video editing

[harsh flume]

im going to get 64g ram

[unkempt lake]

Its why im saying get the non x3d use the extra 80 to splurge on ram

[open ruin]

Are you a pro or getting started

[umbral heron]

For workstation get 32, preferably 48/64
Not 16

[unkempt lake]

Go 96gb using the money saved from not going x3d 2x24

[harsh flume]

when it comes to pcs ive been using my 1070 since i was 12 ive been editing for a year i have a good idea about how to use davinici and edit videos wtc

[harsh flume]

okay sweet dashi thanks for your help bro

I agree with the non 3d

[umbral heron]

96 is overkill for anythig

[unkempt lake]

Or go 64 and keep the 80 in your pocket

[unkempt lake]

Yes lol i know

[open ruin]

Idk boss man, I don’t see it worth swiping that much for that. I’d recommend a 5800x3D, 64 gigs of ram DDR4 3600 or higher, and probably a 4070 or 4080

[harsh flume]

why ddr4 what

[unkempt lake]

He's... not gaming

[umbral heron]

If you're building a new PC don't go for AM4

[harsh flume]

im 75% of the time doing heavy intensive editing with 4k 10bit footage (fucks my 1070 up and my old processor)

[astral haven]

be careful, some codecs (sony im looking at you) use 4:2:2, and no gpus besides intel support it yet

[harsh flume]

im using pretty much ur exact build u made for me cal but with a 7950

[harsh flume]

oh shit i shoot on sony a7s3

[gusty kiln]

Cheeky lil a310 add in

[open ruin]

All I see is an additional 2000-3000 dollars being spent for the sake of a work station and buying parts that are currently in high demand

[astral haven]

that might be where the $80 you saved goes

[open ruin]

When he can have a system that’s 2-3x faster than what he has right now for probably 1500 bucks including the GPU

[harsh flume]

what parts are high demand that im currently getting?

[open ruin]

The 7000 series is crazy hiked up in price right now

[gusty kiln]

Only x3d are in high demand

[umbral heron]

Because 7000 and 9000 are the only AM5 CPUs

Something like this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KpZ3fy

[open ruin]

And not to mention, he’ll pay a premium for DDR5 ram

[harsh flume]

why would I cheap out and get a slightly faster pc than spend the money now and keep this pc for years and have good parts so i dont have to upgrade in he ftureu

[astral haven]

https://www.pugetsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/R9k_DR_Overall.png
9000 isnt really faster

[umbral heron]

And platform which will be possible to upgrade for years
Instead of AM4 which is almost dead already

[harsh flume]

@umbral heron can u inform me on what the sparke eco card exactly does? im new to pcs pls dont forget

[astral haven]

also i wouldnt get the arc card since the cpu will brute force the 4:2:2 decoding

[open ruin]

It’s your money boss, if money is not a problem then buy it, you should have 4-5 years being able to upgrade it if you so desire

[umbral heron]

So only the 4080?

[astral haven]

personally yea

can always add it back later if they upgrade to 8k or something

[umbral heron]

Aite https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vJv728

[harsh flume]

i appreciate you @open ruin

[astral haven]

basically sony uses a codec that the 4080 doesnt understand, so your cpu has to convert it, but cpus are slow at converting so you buy the card to speed up the conversion
but your cpu is so fast that it wont be a problem

[harsh flume]

ahhh so should I buy the card or not?

[astral haven]

nah

[gusty kiln]

Free resolve is cpu only?

[astral haven]

upgrade to an a1 and record in 8k and maybe

[gusty kiln]

Or is that outdated?

[harsh flume]

okay sweet thank you bro

[open ruin]

What’s your budget Jace

Maybe I missed that part

[harsh flume]

3200 would be max im comfortable spending right now with what im buying im at about 2900-3k

[open ruin]

10-4

[harsh flume]

prioierty is video editing and i just want to get a really nice pc so i dont need to upgrade in the future for a bit and have 0 problem editing 4k 10bit footage

[astral haven]

personally id recommend waiting for nvidia 5000 to come out, and its possible they will add support for 4:2:2

but on the other hand you can just drop your recording from 4:2:2 to 4:2:0 and you probably wont notice a difference, and itll be alot faster

[harsh flume]

carmon that is like early jan next year yeah?

[astral haven]

announcement should be earlier, should know by the end of the year, dec probs

[open ruin]

For that budget this build is pretty nice

[astral haven]

wont be able to buy until jan or even feb tho

[open ruin]

Thanks giving black friday/ cyber Monday is around the corner

So there’s a lot of savings if you are patient

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-jensen-huang-ces-2025-keynote-confirmed-for-january-6-possible-rtx-50-series-reveal

[harsh flume]

carmon can u explain more as to like basically my 4080 cant break down 422 footage or? explain that a bit more pelase

[ashen spindle]

aka jan 6th for the announcement and end of january likely for purchase at the earliest

[harsh flume]

ohh sweet yeah i could wait for that

[astral haven]

basically it needs your cpu to digest it first, then it can do the gpu magic

[harsh flume]

so would it be a horrible idea to get a 4080 super now vs waiting for 5k seris?

[sudden imp]

Oh boy time to get a 2200 watt power supply to power my RTX 5090!!!

[ashen spindle]

I dont even expect it to increase the tdp over the 4090

maybe by 50w but the 4090 doesnt even hit 400 its rated for

[astral haven]

its fine, depends how much money you are missing out on by waiting for your computer to do stuff

[harsh flume]

hmm okay i see i also think cyber monday black friday will be nice if im paitent for that

[astral haven]

yea, theres no chance that 5000 will be a better deal than black friday / cyber monday

[harsh flume]

thanks for your help @astral haven

[astral haven]

well there is a chance but its only if all the ai stuff crashes hard

[gusty kiln]

Nvidia all time high today

[smoky frigate]

it will crash right after I get a new GPU

[astral haven]

not if you say it first smh

[ashen spindle]

please tell us before so I know when to sell

[gusty kiln]

Lol are you holding?

[ashen spindle]

not too much but yes, I mean the stock is basically apple at this point

[astral haven]

also nvidia is too stubborn to change prices, so they will only drop prices on 50 series if the crash is prior to launch

[gusty kiln]

What's your average

I'm at 110

[ashen spindle]

uhhh need to check

[astral haven]

im at 13 lol
unfortunately i already thought nvidia was overpriced back then, so i only got a dollar i think?

I just started gambling witj this account, and I very much wish I had gone big with this one

[ashen spindle]

lmao nice

yeah I'm just at 117

because everytime I wanted to enter they just had good earnings

litearlly before the big boom I wanted to enter but then I was busy for a week and earnings report came and then boom it exploded and thats not a good time to enter

[gusty kiln]

Kek

[astral haven]

yea :/

[ashen spindle]

was tempted to put like 50 or 100 into intel just as a meme, might do it if the next earning crashes it below 20 again lol

not because I think it will recover heavily

but I think if they get bought out that will be a win lol

[astral haven]

my current huge gamble is maxeon, but so far its not looking good, i bought right before earnings since it dipped pre earnings, and i was up for a bit, but then this news dropped https://www.pv-tech.org/maxeon-reports-losses-of-us7-8-million-cbp-details-module-imports/

and now they are doing a 100:1 reverse split

[ashen spindle]

ooof yeah that year to date graph doesnt look fun lol

[astral haven]

yea, but they still have most of a billion in revenue and they make the best single junction solar cell in the world

i still have hopium

[dull hollow]

can someone confirm for me my evga 2070 super can support 1440p @360hz

[balmy vector]

Depends on the game

[unkempt lake]

I think he means do i have the right version of displayport

To even get it at the desktop

It's 1.4

[median imp]

whats the best acuation and rapid for first bullet accuracy that you have tried? i swear to god my sheriff shoots to space

like instant first bullet everytime with the apex pro tkl

[dull hollow]

yeah thats what i meant

[unkempt lake]

Yeah thats fine

It will work just dont expect to reach it in games besides like.... old old stuff

[dull hollow]

thanks boss 🙏

[dull hollow]

oh yeah ofc

ill eventually get either 40 or 50 series

depends how big the jump is

and if its worth the difference

oled for content and 360hz for gaming on low

[astral haven]

yea nvidia hasnt updated their displayports since 20 series, 50 series may get an update hopefully

[unkempt lake]

4090 can't even run the 57inch neo g9

[astral haven]

welllll

according to the one person i know with a 57 g9, nothing can lel

[lyric hatch]

Hopefully displayport 2.1a

[astral haven]

and for the love of god hopefully not dp40 or dp54, hopefully they do a proper dp80

[lyric hatch]

Yeah isn't amds displayport 2.1 scuffed and limited to 54GBs anyway

[astral haven]

unfortunately that is an official dp2.1 standard

[lyric hatch]

Yeah they gotta sort that out

[astral haven]

the reason for that is the current displayport port cant handle dp80, but we just need to get over that and just switch to usbc

[unkempt lake]

7900xtx has the port for it but lacks the power

😛

i have a 49inch neo g9 and the 57inch makes me jelly

[lyric hatch]

The port isn't full dp80 though is the thing so you'd be using dsc anyway

[unkempt lake]

But you'd get the full hertz range

And tbh DSC doesn't really matter

[lyric hatch]

Isn't that the whole arguement for displayport 2.1 that you won't have to use dsc

If you end up using it anyway what's the point

[distant tapir]

One of them yes.

[unkempt lake]

The argument is that 2.1 allows you to use a crazy res like 7120x1440 @ 240hz lol

[astral haven]

Implying that the port works properly lel

[umbral heron]

Ah, I thought I got it
Ran stress test again, everything was whirring, suddenly the whole PC froze

But it wasn't due to test, I touched USB stick, it unplugged and KDE didn't like that

So I have no idea how to trip overcurrent protection on 700W

[unkempt lake]

Why are you intentionally trying to do that

[alpine patio]

o7 chrome

you will not be missed

[north tide]

Better DSC (less awful looking compression), higher color bit depth etc.

But yeah they should crank out a DP3.0 that can do raw 4k1000hz 12bit even if the cable is 3 inches thick 😄

[north tide]

It certainly will

AMD already beat them by a gen to DP2

they held off to launch a few months earlier

[lyric hatch]

All that so you can be limited to a 1m long cable

[astral haven]

I already own 2m long thunderbolt cables and thunderbolt has 80gbps of total bandwidth already

[north tide]

my monitor is <0.5m away from the gpu

what's dumb is having the stuff right there and spending the hardware to render it only to poopify it so that a CABLE can move it 40 centimeters.

like turning 10 bit hdr into compressed 8 bit to run 480hz was not good lol

[latent mural]

Is wooting Double movement still working in Fortnite?

[lyric hatch]

Nope #🎮│game message

[latent mural]

Sad can wooting fix it?

[lyric hatch]

Nope epic disabled it for every third party double movement software

[unkempt lake]

Crazy

[lofty stag]

anyone know about this 😭

my space bar is constantly actuated

[verbal nimbus]

I had that issue too just replug keyboard

[lofty stag]

or thats what wootility says at least

[verbal nimbus]

Lower the actuation to point and see if it’s actually spamming space bar or it’s just a visual bug

Mine was a visual bug and fixed after replugging

[lofty stag]

tysm bro

yea probably because i swapped switches with it plugged in

[alpine patio]

if it persists

try different ports on ur comp

[raw ridge]

[dull hollow]

for duel monitor setups

yall got the main monitor on the right or left?

ah yes

@latent mural is this overkill

cant wait to try oled monitor for the first time

360hz 🔥

i hope my 2070 super survives this 🙏

[narrow cape]

Same but mines not coming until next month

[dull hollow]

a month?!?!

mine comes next week lol

[harsh flume]

anyone reccomend any comfy office chairs?

LMAO funny as fuck

[atomic dragon]

Bless up to these Lian Li v2 fans they're amazing

[narrow cape]

WHAT

[vivid reef]

I love lian li

[atomic dragon]

You get that when it on sale even more?

[narrow cape]

WHERE AND HOW KUCH

[atomic dragon]

Amazon

600 bones

[narrow cape]

Oh ya that’s how much I got it for

[atomic dragon]

It was hovering around the 650 mark but dropped more

[narrow cape]

Ya I was waiting for it to go to 600$ and when I checked earlier it was so I just bought it

[atomic dragon]

I got the G60SD for 300 bucks after using my best buy warranty to "upgrade" my monitor

[narrow cape]

Huge brain move

[atomic dragon]

You want a settings for that?

From personal experience this monitor out of box looks disappointing but once you set it up it then becomes amazing

[narrow cape]

what’s the first game yall played with oled

[atomic dragon]

Best buy warranty is a free wat to upgrade every couple years

[atomic dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/754543057294327838.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

Overwatch

Then rdr 2 and cyberpunk

[vivid reef]

wish there was 24in oled

[atomic dragon]

HDR is a must imo

Also get used to long black screens when alt tabing if you plan on using 2k 360hz

Been a bug with Nvidia for ages although they're finally looking into it so bless up they fix it

[narrow cape]

Oh yeah alt tab is weird with Nvidia no?

I got amd card so I should be ok

[atomic dragon]

Yeah no issue when it comes to AMD

My 7900xtx had no issues

Although Nvidia hopefully will fix it soon so my 4090 stops feeling like a downgrade

💀

[narrow cape]

I rlly wanna play assesto, I feel like going from 144hz ips to 360hz oled is gonne be great

[vivid reef]

i thought it was my 540hz taking so long to alt tab is it my gpu?

I have 3080ti

[atomic dragon]

DAMN

[narrow cape]

I haven’t bought a monitor since before Covid

So I think that says a lot

[atomic dragon]

You got the unreleased 1440hz monitor??????

Dude give me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/754543057294327838.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[narrow cape]

Oh wait LOL

[atomic dragon]

Yup

[narrow cape]

Didn’t mean to reveal secret information like that my b

[atomic dragon]

It's under a known bug list for Nvidia so maybe a fix in the next drivers hopefully?

[vivid reef]

😡

[atomic dragon]

It's been a larger problem now that people have moved to higher bandwidth intensive screens

So they're forced to notice and fix it

[narrow cape]

Is it that bad?

[vivid reef]

just annoying

[atomic dragon]

I mean you can have a nice long sip in between it lol

3-5 seconds

[vivid reef]

i alt tab a lot in val in between roubds

[atomic dragon]

Or play everything on borderless window

[narrow cape]

This

[atomic dragon]

Which in some games limits fps or cases thing to be weird

For instance Overwatch limits the fps to some weird ahh number like 326

[umbral heron]

Because I want to see if 700W is enough
If it is, I don't really think buying new PSU would be worthwhile
Although modular one would be nice

[vivid reef]

i think i need a new psu cause my pc keeps turning off randomly

[narrow cape]

With 540hz monitor better be radiant

[vivid reef]

im only low immo3😔

[atomic dragon]

Ehh idk

[narrow cape]

bsod? Or random restarts

[vivid reef]

random

[atomic dragon]

360hz OLED is close to a 540hz ips

If anything the motion clarity is nice

[narrow cape]

What cpu

[vivid reef]

think it stopped after i turned off all rgb

7950x3d

[atomic dragon]

And there not that much of a difference let's be real

[vivid reef]

8 sl infinity fans

[narrow cape]

Yup welcome my friend 7950x3d gave me all kinds of problems

[vivid reef]

750w psu

[unkempt lake]

I thought my 860w was failing a few months after i got my 7900xtx, turns out it was my UPS having an issue, so i upgraded to an HX1500i and put the AX860 in nico's system (he needed it for my 2080 anyways cuz he had a 500w cheapo thermaltake psu in his rig)

[atomic dragon]

Yeah I replaced all my radiator fans and everything so ik matching all Lian Li SL120 V2's

Life's up

[narrow cape]

go to event viewer and see what’s causing it

[vivid reef]

ok ill try tomorrow ty

[unkempt lake]

did i got overkill with a 1500w psu absolutely but 250cad brand new in box on clearance just cuz no 12vhpwr in the box lol

was a no brainer

[umbral heron]

Oh, that's quite nice

[vivid reef]

but other than that the cpu has been amazing

[atomic dragon]

I got the EVGA 1300 GT

[unkempt lake]

literally 50% off for not having cables i can just buy from corsair directly...

that i didnt even need

[atomic dragon]

Because EVGA is on top

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1245795086248444018.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[vivid reef]

Is that a psu?

[atomic dragon]

Yurp

[narrow cape]

I had a whole lots of problem when I got a 7950x3d tbh, I think you really have to spend time to make sure your overclocks are stable (if you did any) and to make sure your ccd drivers are working, usually 7950x3ds have a driver problem (from what I’ve seen on Reddit and from what I experienced myself). There’s plenty of guides on the internet but going into event viewer shows what really going on.

[atomic dragon]

1300 watter

And again it's from EVGA so you know it's quality

[umbral heron]

I think I'll run mine for now
If I get bonus next month, I'll get some 850W, that'd be more than enough for my box of wonders
I still want to double the RAM, do the ultimate overkill

[vivid reef]

when did you get it?

[narrow cape]

I felt like one of those hackers in the movies doing commands in power shell lol

[vivid reef]

ok think ill get a evga 1000

[narrow cape]

Last year

[vivid reef]

i see

[narrow cape]

The random restarts really made me want to sell it. Legit happened every like 15 min

[atomic dragon]

There newer stuff is mainly sold on anything but Amazon which is sad

But yurp quality at its finest

That or seasonic

[vivid reef]

i have a corsair 750x rn i think

[narrow cape]

I have a lot to say abt 7950x3d, I love it, and hate it at the same time. But I’m excited to see 9800x3d performance bc tinkering with bios and all that is a long process

[vivid reef]

how has it been recently?

[atomic dragon]

I just went with a 7800x3d

[vivid reef]

also i just undervolted and changed pbo to enhancement i think

and disabled virtualization

[narrow cape]

Very good, now that I fixed the crashes whatever I did also seemed to fix stuttering in games as well

[atomic dragon]

Them hybrid chips were bad news from the get go

But maybe the 2nd gen versions will be better typically are

[narrow cape]

Also make sure to disable igpu

[vivid reef]

I got this originally but ended up returning it because microcenter sells refurbished parts as new

[narrow cape]

Integrated gpu was wonky working with the ccd parking

[vivid reef]

then just ended up with 7950 cause bestbuy didnt have 7800 in stock but im glad

[vivid reef]

bet

[atomic dragon]

If you do that might as well disable core isolation in Windows

[vivid reef]

yeah i have that off

[umbral heron]

Update BIOS and enable CPPC there

That's it

[vivid reef]

ok ill check for that too

[narrow cape]

Is updating bios the move? I thought it was generally a bad idea no?

[vivid reef]

i did it instantly cause my board came with an old old version

@umbral heron what mb u have?

[umbral heron]

B650 Livemixer

[proud herald]

Its like, if it aint broke dont fix it, but at the same time if you dont you might expose yourself to some nasty rootkit malware

[umbral heron]

I'm on 3.06 now, I don't want to update to 3.08, it's kinda buggy when not with Ryzen 9000, they said they'll push fixes in the next month

[narrow cape]

Ohhhh when that comes out I’ll prob update my bios as well

[vivid reef]

that boards so clean

i had the taichi but it was used with scratches

stay away frim microcenter if u in usa

[umbral heron]

Am on the other side of the world

https://tenor.com/view/polska-gurom-polska-gurom-pudzian-pudzianowski-gif-18323120

[steady sail]

🇭🇺 🇵🇱

[late grove]

Arrow Lake announcement is tomorrow. And honestly the only thing I am remotely interested in is the Godlike board.

[umbral heron]

https://www.theverge.com/policy/2024/10/7/24243316/epic-google-permanent-injunction-ruling-third-party-stores

[ashen spindle]

google is very sad currently becuase they also got this going on currently https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/doj-search-remedies-framework/

[steep creek]

the title of this article

[ashen spindle]

please shed a moment of tears for the poor google company that might not be able to monopolize everything about you

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-mr-crabs-small-violin-tiny-violin-frown-gif-17817462

[steady sail]

[steep creek]

compensate by emailing all your data to google

[wheat plume]

huh?? you can have any third party store you want

[ashen spindle]

lana please

reading should not stop at the headline

[wheat plume]

oohhh, wait wtf

I doubt even wuth this theyd allow Fdroid or Aurora onto play store?!

some apps in there take away potential income from their products

[ashen spindle]

idk what those are

read the points that they must do now/cant do and you will know

[wheat plume]

Aurora is basically an app store that lets you download from the actual play store without needing a google account

[ashen spindle]

it must give rival third-party app stores access to the full catalog of Google Play apps,

[wheat plume]

wild

[reef patrol]

Hmm

[umbral heron]

That messes a bit Google's plans with blocking side-loading and making Play Store the only place you can get apps from

Good

[ashen spindle]

and we have epic and amazon to thank for this

[steep creek]

it would be hilarious if the doj went after amazon next

[steady sail]

interesting ios update

[umbral heron]

Oh, touch screen fixes, nice

[steep creek]

i updated couple days ago, battery life improved a tiny bit which is nice

i think at least

[umbral heron]

Can I install Android on an iPhone? I want the pink one

[compact relic]

why would you want to do that

[bold coyote]

valid but I dont think you can? or have to go through a lot of work

[steep creek]

at that point just stick to android

[steady sail]

Jailbreak might work but cya warranty

[steep creek]

jailbreak is as good as dead these days. last i saw was ios 14-15 ish

[magic minnow]

You guys think the 9950x3d will come out this month?

[ashen spindle]

no

[umbral heron]

Samsung nor any other Android phone manufacturer doesn't make nice pink phones

[magic minnow]

[ashen spindle]

we're only getting 9800x3d supposedly this year

[magic minnow]

Awww ok

[leaden kiln]

(I will agree that pixels are not nice, but the color is ok imo)

oh yeah...

[umbral heron]

But this
Not some pastel pink, or some light pink, or some gold pink
Vivid, nice, deep pink

miku

[bold coyote]

[narrow cape]

Another common Apple L

[vapid ruin]

Nya, I like this pink. Better than apple one imo

[leaden kiln]

Regular pixel 9 maybe?

[umbral heron]

[old marlin]

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/box-cat-hermit-hide-stuck-gif-5786352

[vapid ruin]

that pink looks disgusting

[old marlin]

I assume it doesn't translate well with a screen

[umbral heron]

I guess I'm happy with my phone
I can call, use Discord, play Balatro, I'm fine

[vapid ruin]

prop

[leaden kiln]

I assumed you didn't mind since your other plan was an iphone

[wheat plume]

The images of the pixels on Google's site are very saturated

The color is a lot more pastel irl

I prefer it IRL than the websites photos

[old marlin]

depensd heavily on the screen you view it on

and even then

some colors do not translate well to current digital imagery

[wheat plume]

The 8a green on the website is a lot lot lighter irl
I've seen them

Same for the 6A coral color

[old marlin]

that is why places like pantone exist afterall

[wheat plume]

Yeh

[dull hollow]

yeah sure please 🙏 thank you

sorry i passed out

[ashen spindle]

finally, new AMD gpus

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-launch-radeon-rx-7650-gre-at-ces-2025

[umbral heron]

We wanted new AMD GPUs

But not like this

[old marlin]

prob is a banger budget GPU

[ashen spindle]

yeah but doesnt make sense if the next gen should cover budget to mid range lol

might just be excess stock or something

[magic minnow]

my battery is amazing after this one

I get like 12 hours of heavy use

My s24u would give me like 9

[sudden imp]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gamora-what-did-it-cost-everything-gif-21564640

[primal musk]

What’s a good monitor 240hz 27”

Because my monitor is 165hz 32” 💀

[scenic swallow]

1080p 1440p ? M27qx is really good but a Bad HDR so if you have a higher budget and you want/need a decent HDR there is other monitors that are better

[halcyon moss]

1080p at 27inch? 😱

[frozen ingot]

am currently on a 144hz 32"

[halcyon moss]

Do you want to count the pixels or something?

[primal musk]

Ya I have Samsung 165hz 32”

[gusty kiln]

Same ppi as 1080 24"

[frozen ingot]

imo its fine for 1440p but any larger and things might go a bit too pixelated

[primal musk]

I use 1920/1080 should I use 1440p

[frozen ingot]

if the actual monitor is 1440p native I would

[primal musk]

I would display port cable. Should I use that or HDMI cable?

Cause where I bought the HDMI cable and display port cable are high-quality

[frozen ingot]

my monitor would only run at full 144hz refreshrate with a displayport cable, hdmi was locked at 60 for some reason

[primal musk]

I mean, does HDR have any advantage for performance?

[frozen ingot]

it shouldn't have a performance impact either way afaik, but I don't have it on my setup

[primal musk]

Should I have free sync on or off?

[frozen ingot]

tbh I noticed mine was off too, maybe I should activate it

[primal musk]

To be honest, it’s probably a good idea

[frozen ingot]

there's standard engine and ultimate engine though, no idea wth that means

[steep creek]

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/lunar-lakes-igpu-debut-of-intels?triedRedirect=true

[scenic swallow]

HDR is not really about the performance

[frozen ingot]

supposedly its for reducing image tearing but I haven't noticed that being an issue on this thing

I'll have to try out some games and see if I notice anything

[late grove]

For cursor games not using Gsync can indeed be a good idea.

In every other case I disagree.

[umbral heron]

My first thing for every game is to turn off any and all *syncs

[thick elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9FRadIkkE0
Probably doesn't impact much but lovely.

[sudden imp]

NO

Why Microsoft!!!

[sudden imp]

Is there actually no way to disable this bullshit?

[thick elk]

Basically it is a dependency for newer features in windows explorer, you can no longer completely remove recall without breaking tabs in there for example.

[umbral heron]

I use mangohud for that
Vsync makes my games laggy for some reason

[thick elk]

Disable sure, remove no.

[sudden imp]

Oh phew

[late grove]

That's what Vsync does naturally. And since you are on linux, I assume that gsync outright doesn't work there. So you are missing big time.

[primal musk]

I have free sync premium

[late grove]

Same thing. I mean adaptive sync in general.

[umbral heron]

You can even set up a shortcut to switch between no-limit, 120 and 60 fps for example
With goverlay you can choose between some 12 values, in conf you can specify any you want

[umbral heron]

GSync works on Linux
Won't work for me, I have Radeon

[primal musk]

I run 144hz

[late grove]

Well, freesync then. Does it work?

Gsync did not work on my end when I was testing Linux distros. But that being said, most things did not work so...

[umbral heron]

Sure, I just never bothered to turn it on

goverlay can do tons of stuff with mangohud as a gui configurator, and with conf you can do so much more

[steady sail]

i enjoy using freesync premium

[crimson wigeon]

VRR is great

[ashen spindle]

I love VRR flicker because its implemented like shit!

[crimson wigeon]

It eliminates tearing and games can run at whatever framerate without any stuttering

[ashen spindle]

thats how it should be..

[crimson wigeon]

I would not have it any other way

[gusty kiln]

Only a problem on VA and Oled

[crimson wigeon]

And I'm not rich enough for OLED or VA, or whatever so flicker is not a problem for me

[gusty kiln]

Miniled IPS is still the least compromised display tech atm

[crimson wigeon]

#StutterStruggle

[steady sail]

we love optimized video games

[ashen spindle]

nah very muhc depends on the game and even optimized games can go low and if I stay in the 40-60fps range in a dark area it flickers like hell

thats purely on the monitor

[gusty kiln]

The only way to fix it for oled is to frame cap each game

Through nvidia app or rtss

At least oled responses time is the same regardless of refresh rate

[ashen spindle]

fuck that im not capping an mmo at 45fps just because it can be 200 in some and 30 fps in other places

[gusty kiln]

Kek

So how are you running your qd oled atm?

No vrr?

[ashen spindle]

yup

[gusty kiln]

Shame

[ashen spindle]

yup

but I take some rare tearing over getting a headache from playin alan wake

[gusty kiln]

I'm gunna be on my 1440p 240hz ips for a while

[ashen spindle]

I know the solution for it too

[gusty kiln]

Until a real upgrade comes along

[ashen spindle]

we just need to force every panel engineer to wathc 2 hours of AW2 in a forest at 30-45fps with VRR on every day and VRR flicker is gone in the next panel

[gusty kiln]

Capping a game like Alan wake to 60 would be reasonable though

[thick elk]

Wouldn't in theory anything below half refresh rate simply be a case to solve for low framerate compensation?

[gusty kiln]

Kek, they'll just get used to the flicker and say it's normal

[ashen spindle]

I mean ever since the gamescope dev had a hdr screen hdr support on linux suddenly appeared, its a working method to just expose devs to the issues

[crimson wigeon]

It's a feature to encourage you to get better hardware that can handle the game

[gusty kiln]

Sharp already have a working qdel prototype at the beginning of this year. Wonder how much progress they have made.

[crimson wigeon]

And yeah, pretty impressive how fast you can get shit done if you just go and do it instead of yap all day about how to do it

[brazen kraken]

that's anti motion blur usually

[ashen spindle]

thats how you konw nobody at microsoft uses teams

[brazen kraken]

if the fps don't match the monitor's refresh rate

u can get some really bad headaches

[ashen spindle]

you do understand what the purpose of VRR is?

[crimson wigeon]

And that's what VRR is meant to solve, but it does not quite work on certain monitors yet

[brazen kraken]

yeah i am just saying

w motion blur reduction it doesn't work sometimes

i know cuz it's a problem my monitor has

[ashen spindle]

its not motion blur reduction it's just VRR on oleds especially in dark areas flickering unpredictably

[brazen kraken]

depends on the type of technology tho

[brazen kraken]

i guess

can't u disable it?

[ashen spindle]

yes if I dont use VRR

but then im back to the mismatched monitor hz and game fps as well as tearing due to inconsistent fps

[brazen kraken]

am glad i don't have that problem

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ZMmMWi_yA if you want to learn about it

its a known issue and not some anti motion blur stuff

[marsh pewter]

https://youtu.be/dMqWTkgDt6A?si=LqVuGqyKnQ7iJKRs

guh

[smoky frigate]

wonder if VRR flicker is the reason Pulsar is taking so long

[gusty kiln]

They are making a monitor?

[smoky frigate]

no I'm just purely speculating. my monitor does it too at lower hz, and I wonder how common that is

[gusty kiln]

Pretty much all va and oled

Asus have a vrr limiting feature

But it's only a bandaid fix

[umbral heron]

Time to look for patent of smart clock and 20 other arbitrary patents used there filed by Nintendo of Japan and Nintendo of America...

[smoky frigate]

yeah my train of thought is if so many panels flicker, and then you add strobing on top, how fast that could result in eyerape

[north tide]

The biggest issue with games are that frametimes are not stable or predictable

if you have a 90hz screen and a solid 40fps output as in every frame is 25ms apart, yeah, that's easy. Refresh twice a frame with a bit of waiting & hit 80hz @ 40fps.

It's not all 25ms though, there is some 35ms and some 15ms thrown in there erratically.

[thick elk]

Obviously will not fix all ills but flickering type issues.

[north tide]

those erratic frames are where flickering is most prominent

when a frame comes sooner than expected, it pulses brightness again and percieved luminance goes up

when it's later, there is no pulse, luminance down

[slim cave]

whqt is good budget like 200€ monitor?

[north tide]

what for

[slim cave]

like for gaming and etc

[north tide]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#X=0,30383&D=240000,540000&P=2

fast IPS monitors

[vivid reef]

zowie 144hz

[north tide]

those are dated and not good anymore unless it's way cheaper than 200 euros

[bright briar]

$800 oled steam deck worth it? also has that anti glare etch glass with 1tb

[late grove]

Bro.

[vivid reef]

180 usd

[north tide]

RAM cooling helps OCing, RAM OC is where most performance gains are

[vivid reef]

and i mean theyre fine for the price

[frozen ingot]

motherboard comes with a case

[north tide]

they have to massively undercut a 270hz fast IPS to be at all relevant, because those panels are far higher quality and also much faster. They also support VRR.

A 144hz TN would have to be like 100 euros and i don't see them for less than 220.

[late grove]

I think we can crown this as the ugliest motherboard ever made.

Maybe only behind the Z890 Tachyon

And that XTREME AI TOP doesn't help either.

[frozen ingot]

I like how they blocked airflow to the ram to put fan cooling there instead

because who doesn't like tiny high rpm fans

[final flame]

why are the intel boards always the cool looking ones

[north tide]

It will probably be a lot cooler than having no active cooling

just yeah, an actual fan there does better

[vivid reef]

Prolly cuz its zowie and comes with dyac and stuff

[frozen ingot]

I sincerely hope its temperature controlled

[late grove]

Idk, I think it looks horrendous. I have an urge to call it he Roblox board.

[smoky frigate]

dyac at 144hz sounds painful

[north tide]

Strobing at capped / vsynced 144hz is still nowhere near as useful as just having a higher refresh rate, and it's also kind of eyestrain hell.

It was a good feature when it was 144hz TN against 144hz TN and IPS were down around 60hz, and when VRR didn't exist. World has changed since

[late grove]

Apparently it's wider than E-ATX. So similar to the Z690 and Z790 Godlike boards.

[vivid reef]

i agree but doesnt cause eyestrain for me

[late grove]

RUS 🇷🇺

[final flame]

imo it's one of the better looking mobo's out there
there's a lot of mobos that have large unremovable gamer text, or dragons 😉

at the very least you can disable these, since they're leds

[north tide]

I can say confidently at least that it greatly increases the risk of strain being a problem. It always did for me, whereas 540hz strobing was not at all bad by comparison - but i later developed severe light-sensitive migraines. A lot of other people have issues specifically with strobing at lower rates (we can detect it to khz frequency, but the lower frequency the worse)

[late grove]

No you can't, it's printed on there... I think.

That RAM cooler looks comical

I kinda like it tho.

[vivid reef]

oh i have 540hz so maybe thats why

[smoky frigate]

at 240hz and lower strobing wears my eyes out, but only after like 8 hours of heated gaming

[north tide]

yeah it really depends on the strobe rate. Higher refresh rate strobing is a lot closer to a continuous light.

[final flame]

the ram cooler imo is the worst part
I like how ram looks, especially when every slot is filled

[vivid reef]

cant remember what my low hz monitor strobing felt like

[smoky frigate]

yeah it's awful you don't want that

[frozen ingot]

is there even room for any of the popular tower cpu coolers on that thing or is this strictly intended for watercooling

[final flame]

if you use the ram cooler there won't be enough space

many air coolers even struggle with relatively tall memory

probably one of the coolest designs I've seen
the reflective diamonds are really cool

[frozen ingot]

my ram is about as low profile as modern ram goes and there's only just enough room for the cpu fan

[final flame]

I like mobo's that have reflective surfaces

[final flame]

it looks really nice

[late grove]

Yeah Gigabyte is... ain't it.

[smoky frigate]

stylish!

[late grove]

However the board I posted is the best motherboard ever made.

[frozen ingot]

finally, 6-channel memory

[late grove]

Minus the IO, which you have to fix yourself by adding expansion cards.

[final flame]

sadly no mobo company really doesn't have any controversy
especially recently

[smoky frigate]

gigabyte eats anal grease from an elephan't rectum

[late grove]

Colorful:

[final flame]

idk if Asrock has had any controversy

[late grove]

No

[ashen spindle]

depends on how recently you are speaking of

[late grove]

Asrock's last controversy was trying to sell NFTs but that was a while ago. Since then they seem to be doing pretty good.

[ashen spindle]

but they had their issues like all, like blocking reviewers and having boards that had vrms that couldnt keep up with the cpus

[late grove]

They do post cringe every now and then but it is tame.

[smoky frigate]

got 2 boards, both died within a year and I didn't even do anything with them. they're on the top of my shitlist for mobos now

[frozen ingot]

they blacklisted hardware unboxed from receiving products for review a few years back for reasons I forgot, but they have since lifted that

[ashen spindle]

because HUB pointed out the vrm was overheating and the board thermal throttled cpus that were on the supported list

[late grove]

I mean to be fair I can't blame them. HUB finding the absolute lowest end board they can, put a 12900K in it, run Prime95 and then scream that it throttles.
No shit, what did you expect?

[final flame]

also a sucker for this design

so damn clean

[late grove]

You call that clean? Meh.

[ashen spindle]

who says prime95 they only ran cinebench and it was throttling

[umbral heron]

If only they had B650 variant of this

[late grove]

Same thing

[ashen spindle]

and it doesnt matter what you run, if your board says it supports cpus at their rated powerdraw and it doesnt then its a shit product

[final flame]

it's good, but then they toss a massive big black dragon on it

[late grove]

You don't like dragons?

[frozen ingot]

those logos are pretty corny ngl

[final flame]

I have a msi mobo in my pc right now, I covered it up with a air cooler because I hate the aesthetic now

[frozen ingot]

borderline tramp stamp tattoo territory

[final flame]

tastes get refined and changed over time

[late grove]

pfft

[final flame]

this is what I have currently

ugly ahh board looking at it now

[balmy vector]

Too round for MSI

[late grove]

I quite like it.

[frozen ingot]

"carbon"

is it though

[final flame]

lokking at the other option from msi at the time, I should've gotten this one

[gusty kiln]

Nzxt mobo are the cleanest

[late grove]

I see you like edging?

[final flame]

yes

there is no shame

[balmy vector]

[late grove]

[gusty kiln]

Kek

[frozen ingot]

idk looks is pretty low prio for me when choosing a mobo

[gusty kiln]

Taichi lite or bust imo

[late grove]

Tbh CPUs are so boring now, motherboards are more interesting.

[gusty kiln]

Can just buy a pcie card. Most people only every use the top slot for gpu

[frozen ingot]

specs v. price point is all that matters to me really

[final flame]

kinda torn on the new be quiet dark rock 4

[gusty kiln]

Would you use the asrock livemixer?

[final flame]

the top of it looks weird

[balmy vector]

Cuuuube

[final flame]

looks odd

[gusty kiln]

Bequiet is kinda bad on am5

[frozen ingot]

if it fit my needs and budget probably

[balmy vector]

Inb4 cals with their livemixer

[gusty kiln]

[frozen ingot]

I am aware what it looks like

[late grove]

Oh we finally got dual 10 gig network now.

We can finally put the meme to rest.

[final flame]

full industrial design on the older version was nice

[gusty kiln]

3 m.2 on the livemixer is nice

[final flame]

while the new one is meh

nothing can, but we are talking about looks

[balmy vector]

Keep the rest of this, but remove the top bumps

[frozen ingot]

used to do graffiti for a couple years in my youth so that livemixer aesthetic is lowkey nostalgic to me

[balmy vector]

[gusty kiln]

I hope arctic makes a dual tower version of the freezer 36

[final flame]

the Noctua NH-D15 is just better in looks compared to the cube

[smoky frigate]

https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/ this is not strictly my area of interest, but I love weapons-grade autism like this

[gusty kiln]

Clean

[final flame]

better photo

[balmy vector]

Dont disrespect the brown color, its their trademark