🔌│tech

[smoky frigate]

with the newest patch, even though anti-cheat was working

[bright briar]

yeah them nerfing every weapon in the past instead of some buffing weapons was a huge issue in the past

[frozen ingot]

its a great game now imo, if maybe a little too easy at times for machochists like me

[bright briar]

me either tbh

oh they did that. They would nerf weapons and buff enemies so it felt like constant hell

[frozen ingot]

the nerfpocalypse is old news since like a month now

but I get that its gonna take a while for it to shake that reputation

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-nerf-gun-full-combat-gear-gif-17402832

[bright briar]

yeah i dont enjoy live service games. Anytime i touched one of those games theyre either really bad at the beginning or have a great start then turn into shit

but i mean this is the gaming industry nowadays which sucks

[frozen ingot]

its hard to find good games with lasting appeal these days, lots of flavor of the month games that falls off fast or gets patched to oblivion

or is basically a corpse on arrival like starfield but people still buy it in the millions because its bethesda it has to be good

[steady sail]

yeah

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-stuff-i-got-something-for-ya-i-got-something-for-you-drug-dealer-guy-in-alley-gif-16918930

[unkempt lake]

Fleimi the broker

[analog sinew]

fleimi has a trenchcoat with gpus

hey kids

wanna buy some silicon

[frozen ingot]

new 8bitdong controller looks pretty gud value

[steady sail]

well yeah i had soo much scammer friend reqs

[frozen ingot]

I don't even like controllers but might be worth a shot

[analog sinew]

whats it called

[frozen ingot]

ultimate 2c

[analog sinew]

neither do i but same

[frozen ingot]

has hall effect sticks and buttons

for like €30

[analog sinew]

thats what i want yeah

[unkempt lake]

Keeping it as a backup tho could be useful

[analog sinew]

i looked at their other one before but it had n*ntendo layout

[wheat plume]

oo I have the Ultimate and its AMAZING

[unkempt lake]

You never know when shit will crap out on you

[analog sinew]

i have a gtx 550ti for that purpose

[umbral heron]

snel

[steady sail]

the thing is idk when im gonna sell it

first i have to sell all of my old stuff bc its too much

I have used 1070 with a broken fan 2 blades broke down while i was cleaning it bc it fell out of my hand
i have an old 22" 1080p AOC monitor and my old cpu

[umbral heron]

I'll buy 1070 off of you for 50€ so I can run proxmox on 2x1070 SLI

[balmy vector]

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/BOmbLyJ9PYc

[unkempt lake]

Just do what i did, sell all your parts as a bundle to a relative

Who doesn't mind an older rig or plays older games

[steady sail]

i dont really have younger relative soo

[smoky frigate]

I put all my old shit into a mate's computer who doesn't have any stutter in games anymore and is now super happy

[unkempt lake]

Friend then?

My brother's gf is happy with the 9400f + 1660 pc

From random spare parts i had around 😛

[steady sail]

i was just thinking selling everything for 200 euro overall dx

[final flame]

if you have enough total parts you could make a prebuilt rig or 2 and sell them as starter rigs

that way you sell the parts all at once instead, makes it a bit quicker

[steady sail]

i just have a gpu and a cpu and a monitor thats it

[north tide]

I'm glad SLI is not a thing any more so that i dont have to spend as long explaining to people why it's a terrible idea to use or buy around, and supporting those who did

Next up, Mobo's with multiple DIMMs per channel

[umbral heron]

What's fun with having a computer if you don't do dumb shit with it?

[final flame]

Sli was cool, wish it was still a thing
was a perfect excuse to have 2 gpus

now I have to use the excuse that one of them is for passthrough

[north tide]

sli latency was always worse than framegen latency is now, for example

[ashen spindle]

the idea of sli was nice, the technical issues were just too much

[north tide]

^

alternate frame rendering was always doomed to be awful and nobody really got multiple GPU's working together on the same frame or with the same memory, even when they were on the same PCB

[final flame]

main problem later on was the bandwidth limitations

aside from the microstutter

[ashen spindle]

in theory maybe a better system would be better for lower end gpu combinations but unlikely and usually its just more cost effective to have one slightly better gpu

and for high end we are moving to to just glue them together on package so no point also supporting the weird inbetween option

[north tide]

will be cool to see if nvidia does the 2x gpu thing sharing cache and memory via interposer like they did on the datacenter card

but mayb too expensive

maybe not if they sell it for $2k lol

[ashen spindle]

yeah not for now, maybe next gen

same for amd sadly and intel who knows if we even get to a 3rd desktop gen

would've been so nice if we had gotten a high end rdna4 card, even if not perfect I would have liked to see sick new tech..

[smoky frigate]

the GTX 690 had two processors from what I remember

[ashen spindle]

yup last one on nvidias side that did that

[smoky frigate]

was it good?

[bright briar]

do people still buy 1060?

[ashen spindle]

idk from before my time so dont know how the stutter compared to two 680 in sli

[bright briar]

damn

got one in my closet

https://tenor.com/view/blow-dust-joel-dawson-dylan-obrien-love-and-monsters-dusty-gif-18651670

[ashen spindle]

didnt care about hardware before like the 700 series slowly

[umbral heron]

Sure, 1060s, 1660s, they have NVENC after all, cheap GPUs to stuff in jellyfin or streaming boxes

[bright briar]

might have to sell that bad boy then

[umbral heron]

Funny stuff happening
Just realized that my server box has the exact same parts as my PC had 4 years ago
I swapped some parts in mine, gave to brother, now brother upgraded too, gave them back to me

[smoky frigate]

me with a worthless overheating vega 64: 😭

[umbral heron]

Perfectly cromulent AI accelerator

This bad boi sports HBM2 dies after all

[steady sail]

OOF

[smoky frigate]

do you want it? it's only catching evil glances on a shelf here

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

Hah
We said Valve pls fix and they listened

[exotic plinth]

Do not blame they got only 1 dev ok

[bright briar]

that box is looking into your soul

[steady sail]

indeed that do

[north tide]

In hardware it was the same as 2x 80 gpu's in SLI, but clocked lower

[ashen spindle]

makes sense, more heat at the same are but still same connection issues

[north tide]

yeah and half the pci-e BW per gpu also

[smoky frigate]

allelujah!
wayland devs: BLABLABLABLABLA

[onyx lynx]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/205029392468?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=dXihsyE6Rdu&sssrc=0&ssuid=dXihsyE6Rdu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Should U buy this

[ashen spindle]

if you want it

[wheat plume]

......wtf is this shit

[ashen spindle]

its called literal clickbait ad that you should should never see if you just use adblocker

[halcyon moss]

Or.. Browse sanely

[wheat plume]

I do use ad blocker

[magic minnow]

No case or fans?

[distant tapir]

You can disable ads by poking the charging port? 🤯

[sudden imp]

yikes from me I don’t think the app could be saved LOL

[wheat plume]

:')

[open ruin]

Hiyori lives on twitter

[late grove]

https://wccftech.com/usb4-2-0-80-gbps-240w-power-delivery-certified-cables-available/

So guys what do you think about USB 4 2.0? 🤦‍♂️

[distant tapir]

What's the fejspålm for?

[sudden imp]

Can’t wait for usb 5

[wheat plume]

I really hate the USB naming scheme

USB 4 2.... Great

[wraith reef]

Anyone know if the Lekker switches are able to work after being wet? My shipment came in and the box was destroyed with the lid open and wet inside.

[empty wren]

Actually it is USB4 2.0

[verbal nimbus]

I’d get a replacement if you don’t want to wait dry them and they’ll be fine

But you’ll most likely have to open the switches and dry them if the water got through

[wraith reef]

Shoot. I didn’t wanna go through the hassle to return them but I guess better safe than sorry them. There’s too many swifches to open them all up lol Ty tho

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah and the lube probably washed too

[scenic thunder]

even if it dried, if any water got in, the lubes fucked on those switches. 100% return unless your willing to hand lube

[north tide]

I'm waiting for USB4 2.0 gen3.2 Type D, personally

[late grove]

second revision

[vapid ruin]

2x69

[night jungle]

This feels ilegal to talk abt but im considering buying a blackwidow v3 yellows (40€) or an huntsman mini (55€) what would be better?

[late grove]

Well the black widow is more poisonous but the huntsman is more aggressive and runs faster.
I'd say get the black widow because there is less chance of it escaping.

[night jungle]

Very sigma

[hasty thunder]

what feels illegal is most of the time illegal

On the ground! You're hereby under arrest of the Wooting Police Department

[quaint dew]

neither at that price get ak820

[fair gull]

thats not what its called but sure

i mean maybe its marketing name but usb can fuck off with those in general

[ashen spindle]

2.0 is just the spec revision ts not the name

[fair gull]

welp i just checked its apparently their marketing name

as in itll be on products

and they rnemaed usb4 to usb4 v1

i highly doubt theyd put the name usb4 gen4 symmetric on anything

[ashen spindle]

No I imagine you see speed like with DisplayPort

[fair gull]

thats what id hope

[ashen spindle]

So usb 80gbps

[fair gull]

i wish thats how theyd handle all usb tbh

[umbral heron]

Ay, it's not bad

[wheat plume]

OOOO wait you can enable VRR in Gnome

you need to use dconf editor

Or use Bazzite if you have it on a dedicated gaming machine

[ashen spindle]

#💻│wootomation

[mild dome]

Looking forward to the new USB 1d20+π.2.2^e^-4 Doom of Halo Eternal Evolved AlphaDev 0.5 500MB/s 5W multiplied by 1000

[ashen spindle]

they are literally moving in the opposite direction by just having it be the bandwidth instead of the weird usb3 naming

and if all cables do it thats the best going forward

[balmy vector]

Yeah this certification is far more clear than current usb labeling

[sudden imp]

That’s definitely more clear

[ashen spindle]

because these cables litearlly are the first ones to be certified so they couldnt have been out before

[old marlin]

USB-C is just a physical spec

[ashen spindle]

this is the new usb4 spec

[old marlin]

has nothing to do with the version

[ashen spindle]

connector shape is just that

[umbral heron]

I only want DP over USB-C to be finally a widely-used standard
Death to HDMI

[ashen spindle]

..which this now clearly shows

which was the whole point of what was talked about

and they also dont have the 80gbps spec

which nobody ever said you could because this was purely about the usb4 2.0 spec

[balmy vector]

Bring on the dp 2.1

[wheat plume]

Wasn't it either HDMI or DP that rejected some commit AMD made?

But yeah .... DP ftw

[umbral heron]

And DP is backwards-compatible with HDMI, yet another reason to get rid of it

[wheat plume]

Hek

[balmy vector]

Hoping to see 50 series have 2.1 dp, even if i wont use it immediately since my monitors are 1.4

[umbral heron]

[wheat plume]

24gb Vram
Holy shit

[umbral heron]

I still remember Nvidia fanboys screaming at others at 40-series launch

IT DoeSn't neED Dp 2.1, tHeRE'S NO moNiToRS TO UtilIZE It

[wheat plume]

AMD are goated

[umbral heron]

Yeah, 70W while idle because 280Hz is not a multiple of 60Hz

And memory clocks are running at 100%

[wheat plume]

What is "Anti-Lag* technology"?

[umbral heron]

Because StABlIiTY
How come 6700XT didn't had any problems with that then?

[balmy vector]

Amd’s reflex

[wheat plume]

Which does what?

[steady sail]

same like nvidia reflex

[balmy vector]

Reduce input lag

[umbral heron]

It optimizes render queue between CPU and GPU, thus lower latency and more responsiveness

[steady sail]

looks nice

[vapid ruin]

Nice gpu

[steady sail]

tho i still love my 6700 xt

[umbral heron]

Yeah, it's a bit overkill
Especially since I play only Minecraft and GW2 nowadays

[gusty nexus]

nice

7900 xtx enjoyer like me

[vagrant pagoda]

why is it so hard to find usb 2.0 cables with chokes these days lol

[gusty nexus]

with what ?

[vagrant pagoda]

ferrite chokes

they help filter high frequency noise

[gusty nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[vagrant pagoda]

not used anymore because usb is high speed

but for 2.0 stuff they help a ton

[vagrant pagoda]

kids these days smh

[umbral heron]

To be honest 6700xt was enough for me for 1440p

[vagrant pagoda]

the lumps on the cable are chokes

[gusty nexus]

oh like ps2/ps3 cable 👀

[iron wave]

Do the Android find my trackers require third party software?

[iron wave]

You can buy them and clip them on yourself.

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but the cable is going to be shit if it dosent come with them

[iron wave]

PS3 isn't a thing?

[vagrant pagoda]

if you wanted to make a quailty usb cable it would have them

[vagrant pagoda]

ps2 is like 500khz spi, and ps3 is usb2

both can use chokes

[gusty nexus]

I'm talking about the playstation 3 cable for charging the controller ?

[iron wave]

Oh.

[vagrant pagoda]

its literally usb 2.0 mini for ps3 controllers

[iron wave]

I thought you meant like PS2 as in the old keyboard and mouse protocols.

[vagrant pagoda]

hence the chokes because sony shipped them with a quailtiy dual shielded cable with choke

[gusty nexus]

no 😅

[late grove]

To be fair AMD doesn't use full DP 2.1 either. Aside from 2 of their Radeon Pro cards.

[vagrant pagoda]

ps2 kb/mouse are full 5v ttl for signal, so noise isnt as much of an issue

[iron wave]

I'm still annoyed at Nvidia for their HDMI implementation.

[iron wave]

Yeah it's a very simple serial thing.

[vagrant pagoda]

usb is a 3.3v

[iron wave]

Yeah.

[late grove]

What's wrong with it?

[iron wave]

No variable refresh rate.

[balmy vector]

Huh?

[late grove]

I am pretty sure even HDMI 2.0 has VRR on Nvidia.

[iron wave]

I got these monitors because they were on sale with variable refresh rate but Nvidia doesn't support it over HDMI.

[late grove]

Hell iirc it's AMD that doesn't have it support on HDMI.

[iron wave]

Nah they support it over HDMI.

[balmy vector]

40 series at least i know for sure has vrr on hdmi, used it before

Which series is it?

[iron wave]

I have a 4090, it doesn't.

[late grove]

Yes because it's HDMI 2.1 it has VRR built into the spec.

[balmy vector]

Wtf, how? My 4080 does it

[late grove]

Maybe that's the issue.

The monitor probbaly has HDMI 2.0

Or hell i believe there are monitors that don't run adaptive sync on HDMI at all.
It was really messy back then.

[ashen spindle]

no vrr issues on ada via hdmi are known

[vagrant pagoda]

but yeah i found tripp lite sells a 6ft cable with chokes, but cant find a good 10ft

[late grove]

Ugh sec let me try it on mine.

[ashen spindle]

it only works on certified monitors not on the spec itself

[late grove]

I have an HDMI 2.0 monitor without Gsync module. GOnna connect my laptop with 3080 to it and see what happens.

[ashen spindle]

gsync module isnt what defines certified monitor

[late grove]

I mean that I do have a gsync module monitor with HDMI 2.0 as well and that one I know for sure does work.

So I will test on one that has no module.

[ashen spindle]

its not about having a module or not its about if its recognized as supported or not

[iron wave]

Nvidia is just a tool.

[umbral heron]

Be me:

plug cable
works
happy

[iron wave]

You must have a special card.

Somehow.

[ashen spindle]

yeah its an amd card

[iron wave]

Oh.

[gusty nexus]

same for me

[iron wave]

Yeah that would do it.

[spice citrus]

gsync should have its own menu in the drop down on the left

[iron wave]

What do you guys think about the 5090 rumored memory spec?

[ashen spindle]

could still change so im not thinking much about it

[umbral heron]

And a perfect solution for memory clock issue
Integrated GPU takes care of 2 other displays

[spice citrus]

it would be right about the set up multiple displays if it was detected

[iron wave]

I think 32GB doesn't sound too outlandish.

[iron wave]

Yeah Nvidia just hates their customers.

[ashen spindle]

someone else in another discord has the same frustrations (and guess what, on 7900xtx it just works)

[iron wave]

Where is that?

[ashen spindle]

in the gsync setting lol

[iron wave]

I thought that was a DP only thing from my research.

Oh. Yeah I don't have that.

[late grove]

Well, no Gsync on that monitor.

Gudenau was right after all.

But yeah some monitors will work. Depending on how the stars align..

[iron wave]

Gotta print this out.

[balmy vector]

Interesting

TIL

[ashen spindle]

basically the nvidia dispaly controller is old af and still the same as on pascal

so we better get a new one with the 50 series

[iron wave]

Probably not because that doesn't benefit them.

I wonder if they'll advertise 8k gaming again or if they'll claim 16k.

[umbral heron]

Oh, btw, why I get better benchmark score in Unigine for 4k than for 1080p?

[gusty nexus]

they are working (nvidia) on a new program but it's in beta for now

[ashen spindle]

idk never used that bench

maybe the score cares about gpu more than actual performance?

[umbral heron]

That may be, it's mostly GPU-focused benchmark

[iron wave]

40 series is more optimized for the higher resolutions and AMD for lower, kinda interesting.

Also with higher GPU load the CPU is less of a bottleneck.

[ashen spindle]

wouldnt say they are more optimized for either, just that the driver limitations from cpu overhead dont matter anymore at 4k

[iron wave]

The benchmarks had the 40 cards beating the AMD ones at 4k and vise versa at 1080p.

[ashen spindle]

not really? what benches did you look at

[iron wave]

Wasn't that the case? I swear that's what GN was getting.

[ashen spindle]

RT aside the 4080 and 7900xtx are basically getting the same performance

few percent more or less depending on what comparisons you look at but thats usualyl consistent on all resolutions

[iron wave]

I must be misremembering then.

[umbral heron]

Oh, the difference between 4080 and 4080S is that small?

[steady sail]

[halcyon moss]

Is the 5700xt j that chart? :p

[steady sail]

yes

[ashen spindle]

you need to compare what resolution this is at, TPU changes what the resolution comparison is at some point so its not that accurate of older vs newer cards

[vapid ruin]

mmm, 4070tiS staying up

[steady sail]

"Based on TPU review data: "Performance Summary" at 1920x1080, 4K for 2080 Ti and faster."

[magic minnow]

Mouse king

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/908005844/jethro-v1-ultimate-chatgpt-powered-ai-mouse

[unkempt lake]

7900xtx club

[halcyon moss]

So time to upgrade next gen..

[steady sail]

i mean even a GeForce 210 is on the list

[unkempt lake]

Yep 4080 super was literally just... we matched the 7900xtx in raster and its cheaper

[unkempt lake]

I have one of those in my closet!

xD

[median imp]

hey guys anyone got a good profile for valorant my first bullet shoots to the moon 80% of the time

half tempted to go back to mechanical

[analog sinew]

and you aim with your keyboard?

[magic minnow]

#🌈│wootabase_profiles

Or profile as in crosshair

[vagrant pagoda]

is there some shortage on psus? like all the tiatiums are oos

[gusty kiln]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Android/s/9os2ZytQn6

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

[analog sinew]

urgh

ig at some point the internet just becomes unfun to use

[umbral heron]

Just... don't use Chrome?

[analog sinew]

I never used chromium shit anyway

its just how the internet is currently moving in general

and poogle is a big part of that

[marsh glade]

https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
Common Brave W

[umbral heron]

Chromium browser with full uBlock support? That's a huge W

I'm very interested to see where Ladybird and Servo will end up
Given Mozilla just keeps shooting itself in the foot nowadays

But Servo being the engine of choice that'd replace Chromium in most browsers? That'd be beautiful

[ashen spindle]

yeah but brave is made by the guy who made javascript so thats an L

(plus his political views)

[steady sail]

im happy with Vivaldi LUL

[marsh glade]

I live in blissful ignorance of this

[glacial furnace]

hi! does someone know if a 4060ti, i9 12900k, 32 gb ram good for fn comp settings?

[steady sail]

that 4060 ti hurts but i mean kinda sure

[glacial furnace]

why?

its not a bad gpu

[umbral heron]

7800XT costs more or less the same as 4060Ti
And 7800XT smashes 4060Ti

[dapper vessel]

ye amd kinda cooking nvidia in the low-mid range rn

[umbral heron]

But... you can do that without it too?

[willow moss]

Is this backlight bleed too bad out of the box?

[supple torrent]

Any pc building expert dm me pls

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-facepalm-stress-gif-14656227

[wild coyote]

I'm checking for other cheap vps, but it's difficult man

I currently got a 2vcore, 14gb ram and 75gb nvme for 8$/m

[ashen spindle]

check out hetzner

maybe they have a good option

[wild coyote]

Already checked

Nothin' good compared to what I'm payin rn

Their dedicated server are a W

vps kinda meh

[hasty thunder]

We don't do that here

if you want support building a PC you can simply ask in the server

[steady sail]

get some light

[smoky frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZy5pLoIz2Q

finally this shit's on track, after 15-odd years of this broken governance model

[oblique solstice]

any1 elses games microstutter when using the 8k polling mode on wooting 60he?

not all games tho, i only experience fps drops in CS and CoD but its all the time..

[dull hollow]

the 60he doesnt have 8k polling

[oblique solstice]

w/e the tachyon is, sorry

[steady sail]

nope

[oblique solstice]

tachyon mode or what its called, im assuming its 4k

[ashen spindle]

60he is 1k

[dull hollow]

ive only use tachyon in OW2

[ashen spindle]

only 80he is 8k

[dull hollow]

and havent had any issues

[oblique solstice]

weird

[ashen spindle]

do you have an 8k mouse

[oblique solstice]

yes

and the 60he+ which had a software update couple of days ago

i read the notes states they added 8k support for the 60 as well

but i never use my mouse on 8k, only 2-4k deppending on the game

for example, league of legends only supports up to 2k since its an old game running on and old engine, anything after 2k u get hella lag

cs works fine on 4k+ on mice

same with newer games, valorant, cod, ow2 etc.

[ashen spindle]

where did you read that the 60he has 8k now

[oblique solstice]

on reddit and the patches

[ashen spindle]

can you link it

[steady sail]

thats impossible without a new MCU

[fickle ore]

60he mcu prob can do 4 khz or even 8khz

but not stable

[analog sinew]

source:reddit lmao

i love reddit

[hasty thunder]

Nope... Not at all

If you did your homeworks you'd know that MCU isn't even capable of 2k

[latent mural]

viper v3 pro sensor is better than the scyrox v8??

[steady sail]

VV3 uses PAW3995 i think

or somekind of modified PAW sensor

[latent mural]

i see

but perfomance wise

is scyrox v8 better?

[steady sail]

dont know

[latent mural]

cuz i have 3 mice on my consideration list

[steady sail]

im just using my x2h mini from pulsar right now

[vagrant pagoda]

why would windows explorer be accessing location

[zenith silo]

im probably getting a beastx max next

they dont have a lilac one like the mini though so i cant have them match

[late grove]

Sensor performance doesn't matter

Asuming it's not outright faulty.

[fair gull]

it can maybe scan faster but thats almost worthless without the polling

[fair gull]

it should be able to push above 2khz internal scanning

pretty sure its roughly 50% clock speed of the new mcu in the 80he

[hasty thunder]

hm... lemme check the MCU after my bath

[sudden imp]

2 questions?

1. What has firefixes recent fumbles been?
2. When will lady bird be out and can it be used on mobile?

[fair gull]

the only one im not 100% sure about is the exact mcu on the 60he(+) its some GD32F303 (i think its CGT6) but the 80he uses a GD32F325RGT6. should be 120 vs 200mhz

[rough osprey]

ye

[fair gull]

id mainly wonder id the adcs and sensors on the 60 are fast enough

[umbral heron]

1. All the privacy and ads kerfuffle, mostly the fact it was all opt-out and not opt-in
2. 2026 is target for Linux and macOS, probably even later for Windows and mobile

[hasty thunder]

according to the data sheets it is capable of WHAT? Am i reading the sheets right or is there something wrong? Because as far as i can tell you could easily go up to 8k

https://www.endrich.com/Datenblätter/Aktive Komponenten/GD32F303.pdf

it'd need a whole new PCB, but it is possible

[umbral heron]

It can go up to 8K
It cannot serve as USB device at 8k polling

It supports USB Full Speed at most

[hasty thunder]

So we could've gotten an 8k 60HE since its change to ARM

[hasty thunder]

i mean internally we could still run the 60HE ARMs at 8k

which would make Tachyon obsolete to begin with

[umbral heron]

8k scanning? Sure, maybe
8k polling? Nope

[smoky frigate]

they went into the data collection business against their users' wishes and this is after years of fumbling their mission to protect standards and build infrastructure, they're just going from one grift to the next

[hasty thunder]

i'm feeling scammed... Tell @loud hemlock to swing his ass and get to work right away

[smoky frigate]

it wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't position themselves as the internet's hope or some shit

[latent mural]

can a diffrent mousepad fuck up your aim?

[hasty thunder]

yes, obviously

[hasty thunder]

Think about your mouse as a car. The skates are the tires and the road is your mousepad

what happens when you decide to go with slicks on a dirt road?

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/lamborghini-car-drift-parking-circle-gif-1924216117029971181

[sudden imp]

Thanks for the answer! Shame the two platforms I’m not on is getting supported first 😭

[hasty thunder]

ah yes, Mozilla pulling an Anakin

[sudden imp]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-darthvader-gif-5533636

[umbral heron]

I'm really tempted to move to Brave after their announcement

[hasty thunder]

You won't regret it

[smoky frigate]

brave are at least honest about being scum lol

[hasty thunder]

i like Brave a lot

[steep creek]

i want to use arc but i can’t on windows, just doesn’t feel as good as macos version for now

brave pulls me back every time

[ashen spindle]

I'm not going to try brave as long as eich is still on board of that team

[hasty thunder]

excitement?

[steep creek]

but their ceo something for sure, quin makes a fair point

[hasty thunder]

well, Eich is a bitch, i agree

but he won't go anywhere either

[steep creek]

if i could only choose one browser it’d probably be arc and just deal with it being unpolished

[smoky frigate]

why is that icky when they're all about crypto, replacing ads, and sneaking referral links into the code

[hasty thunder]

i mean where would he go? Mozilla? They're too broke.
Google? They'd laugh at him the moment he steps into the building

[steep creek]

he left mozilla i doubt he wants to go back

[ashen spindle]

he left before they could kick him out

[steep creek]

yep

[hasty thunder]

Apple wouldn't want that bitch either, despite being a perfect match

[smoky frigate]

ungoogled chromium has the manifest v3 changes so no

oh hush my mouth then

[ashen spindle]

I mean I dont care where he would go to, he's likely already set with money and worst case can just take a random coder job

[umbral heron]

I'd love to use Arc, but they don't give a fuck about Linux, so

[ashen spindle]

doesnt change that if I still need to not comply with my morals by using brave I might as well use chrome which also doesnt comply but at least does more

[steep creek]

ladybird browser is your bestie

[fair gull]

no

[smoky frigate]

I do💗

[umbral heron]

All other browsers are available on Linux

[hasty thunder]

well, the datasheets tell a different story

oh wait... yeah...

i've totally ignored the other components

[fair gull]

also no

[wheat plume]

Not Arc :'(

I wanna try ARC but the Windows version is bad

[fair gull]

idk its basically where macos is just no little arc

[steep creek]

it’s worse than macos but it’s fine to be fair

[fair gull]

theres only some cosmetic stuff im missing in the win version

[steep creek]

i’ll probably switch to it full time soon

[hasty thunder]

yeahhhhh, forget what i said. I just realized it's not possible with the other components. It would require a whole new PCB design and more expensive components

[fair gull]

i did as soon as it released and even upgraded to win11 for it. i just love the way it handles tabs and bookmarks

[umbral heron]

I mean, they ported swift toolkit to Windows, because that was the only obstacle to have it on Windows
Meanwhile on Linux Apple offers their own, official, open-source port - and yet they couldn't use that to make Arc work on Linux

[fair gull]

its not possible with the mcu. if it was the 80 would also use the 303

[smoky frigate]

anyone got recommendations for dirt cheap SATA SSDs? it's for a steam library so nothing important

[steep creek]

yeah same, i love the separation between studying / personal usage etc, also makes lots of tabs easy to handle

[fair gull]

they do have some other hurdles but that might alao be swift port related

[ashen spindle]

does it have to be sata?

[fair gull]

oh yeah definitely. the only real gripe i still have is multi window sessions

[ashen spindle]

because m2 and sata are the same prices these days

[steep creek]

yep fair, hopefully they improve it soon

[umbral heron]

My bet is "market share"
Despite the fact most of the code would be almost identical as on macOS given it runs on Swift and Chromium

[smoky frigate]

preferred, I want to leave my remaining m.2 slot for something more important

[hasty thunder]

Crucial BX500? Unless you want something with cache, in that case i'd get an MX500

[steep creek]

arc team tbh haven’t totally denied the possibility of porting over to linux. it might happen but this is just my speculation

[unkempt lake]

Some people are out of m.2 ports

[fair gull]

im not too hopeful although lately my windows remember the space they were in before i hit shutdown. but updates and killing arc process still dont reopen all windows

[ashen spindle]

yes thats why I asked him

[smoky frigate]

will cache make an appreciable difference for load times on games?

[fair gull]

i mean it has some very windows specific issues related to the ui and functionality bound to ui elements

[steep creek]

yeah hm true

[ashen spindle]

then just look at pcppartpicker sorted by price in your region and just avoid super cheap kingstons

[umbral heron]

Windows is fundamentally different from Linux and macOS, so that doesn't surprise me

[hasty thunder]

well, yes. Non-Cached SSDs have the tendency to act like an HDD after a while

[fair gull]

yeah im still impressed with how much they already got working though

[smoky frigate]

yeah kingston I will leave the fuck alone, had 2 and they both broke in a year. they're on my shitlist

[unkempt lake]

Like nico already had an m.2 and some sata ssds and wanted a bit more storage for games, chucked a 2tb team group vulcan z qlc on sale in his system

[smoky frigate]

okey dokey thäänx

[unkempt lake]

Not the best but it works fine as a game drive

As a game drive who cares also we talking for older stuff

[hasty thunder]

rarely happens tbh. Never ran the cache full on my MX500

[umbral heron]

Same here on my P5

[stuck crest]

do you guys have any idea on how I would fix this problem: as im playing a game or typing keys randomly get stuck, or activate more than they should, even when im just pressing WASD a random key like M would press down. (not physically) I've tried reinstalling drivers and have gotten nowhere

[umbral heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ojU_8ASVE

[unkempt lake]

It all depends on your use tbh

[hasty thunder]

damn it

i was just about to post it...

[steep creek]

#calspower

[unkempt lake]

Dramless is fine for games only

[hasty thunder]

i wish i could tag these

[umbral heron]

DRAMless is fine if you're doing read only or if you don't want to spend 5€ more for one with DRAM

[fair gull]

dram less is really nice in school notebooks where you need hundreds of ssds and the resilience of ssds over hdds when children do dumb things with the notebooks

[hasty thunder]

please tell me with updated firmware

[unkempt lake]

A having a husband is basically like taking care of a man sized child so i guess it's why nico has dramless ssds 🙂

[fair gull]

i somehow doubt you get the write speed of 4gbps on 980s in raid 1 none the less

[smoky frigate]

actually I should update the firmware on mine, it's already worn lol

[hasty thunder]

possible, depending on the adult film he's loading

[steep creek]

my 990 pro is fine. i didn’t have to update firmware as it was already on the newest version. got it in july ish

[umbral heron]

RAID 0 maybe, 1 - no way

[hasty thunder]

uh... that's not how it works?

[fair gull]

raid 1 is always a perf hit on write

you can maybe gain read speed but thats about it

[umbral heron]

RAID 1 is a mirror, RAID 0 strips volumes

[fair gull]

arent 980s 3gbps write alone

[hasty thunder]

lemme check quickly

[fair gull]

so how do you get more in a raid 1 setup

[umbral heron]

My P5 is enough to match my internet connection, so I'm happy

[steep creek]

good emote

[hasty thunder]

2000 MB/s TLC

[umbral heron]

[fair gull]

so you arent even writing to the ssds directly great

[hasty thunder]

[umbral heron]

sync

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-yee-cowboy-dallas-cowboys-gif-27512215

[hasty thunder]

Yeah, but it never writes at that speed on the SSDs, DUH!

i mean com'on... It should've been obvious the 980s wouldn't be capable of that

[stuck crest]

yo i appreaciate it gang

[smoky frigate]

awesome

[analog sinew]

bwesome

[hasty thunder]

@umbral heron Bonk him to bed please. May our patient rest well

Tomorrow's gonna be the great experiment

[analog sinew]

what we doin?

[hasty thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/well-see-whether-im-crazy-or-not-henry-frankenstein-frankenstein-we-shall-see-lets-find-out-gif-18799202

[steady sail]

my bx500 is a year old and its still going great

[umbral heron]

I thought we'll check why we shouldn't use dd with sudo until completely necessary

[smoky frigate]

for what job are you using it?

[steady sail]

only gaming

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/allenxandria-theres-no-fun-to-be-had-here-gif-23231859

[smoky frigate]

I see. currently undecided whether to go cache or cacheless for the same job. with cache I can probably use for more stuff if I wanted to

[hasty thunder]

that's for another day, living creation. Now bonk our guest to bed

[ashen spindle]

the prices are so cheap there isnt a point in going with cacheless since those also cheap out on other components

[smoky frigate]

ic ic

MX500 it is, then

[hasty thunder]

well chosen you have, young padawan

[smoky frigate]

thäänx for advice, saved me a couple hours of autistic research

yeah but the starting point is always fucking reddit, which is mostly worthless

[steep creek]

i just saw a juicy discount for an nvme and sent it, back when i needed one

[hasty thunder]

Well, if i need NVMe's i go with SN 770s, but not anymore since SanDisk bought that series. Preferably i'm looking for an Infineon chip

[smoky frigate]

https://www.amazon.de/fanxiang-Schreiben-Festplatte-Datenübertragung-S101Q/dp/B0CM8QWND1 by total coincidence (or maybe not) this was the banner on amazon for me now, these claim to have cache and are dirt cheap

[wheat plume]

Fanxiang??

[hasty thunder]

Is Kioxia selling Sata SSDs finally?

last time i checked they only sold NVMes

Kioxia's actually well known. They used to part of Crucial iirc

[umbral heron]

Great cup coasters

[hasty thunder]

or some other big brand, i don't remember

[steady sail]

Toshiba

[hasty thunder]

thx

[smoky frigate]

great, I'll sleep over it and maybe give them a shot

[latent mural]

well i better get my old mousepad back

[hasty thunder]

hmmm... interesting

[unkempt lake]

Ssds just don't really die unless you write a lot on them. I have a 10 year old sata ssd in my rig lol

[hasty thunder]

prices went quite low

[unkempt lake]

And it's still at 85% health

[dark wren]

yo

[umbral heron]

Teamgroup
Adata
No wonder

[latent mural]

is this any good? i’m looking for 27 inch 240 hz good and vibrant colours and uhm like no delay

[steady sail]

i mean my 2TB HDD is still doing stron and its 10 years old

[hasty thunder]

forget what i said

[latent mural]

ty!

[hasty thunder]

but yeah, MX500 is still the cheapest of the bunch

[latent mural]

also this someone help me 😭😭

can’t decide between them

might just buy all 3

that’s what i’m saying it so underrated

[fair gull]

my smthsmthsmth is like 5 or 6 yrs old and still doing great

860 evo

[hasty thunder]

Adata suck my left cheek 690?

[latent mural]

i got a 3 yr old gpx 1 now

need an upgrade

[fair gull]

fuck me no adata pls....

and no kingston A series

[hasty thunder]

[fair gull]

god i had so many of those fail at my old workpalce

[umbral heron]

So many coasters

[fair gull]

oh no wdgreen ssds... were they sent us firmware updates.... to fix them not dying

[hasty thunder]

yeah... Adata wasn't very great... They failed on us almost daily

[latent mural]

gpc was very good, still good now but outclassed by a lot of mice it is what it is

[steep creek]

elevated stand for each of your uwus

[steady sail]

my 2tb hdd is almost at 1 million

[fair gull]

who is us

[hasty thunder]

back when i worked at adesso

but hey, our hardware department for some unknown reasons swears on adata SSDs

[latent mural]

it’s classic mouse now but if logitech actually did something they would be top tier rn

EXACTLY

[hasty thunder]

wonder if people still get their notebooks with this garbage

[latent mural]

mannn fuck this maya x 8k is not in stock whyyyyy

[umbral heron]

Ironically WD one has survived the longest
But goodram is straight up dogshit, slow af and one of them died on me after 8TBW or so

[smoky frigate]

oh my gaaawd

[fair gull]

im so far from 1 mil

also funny how it cant read the 3tb disks smart properly

[analog sinew]

hey

thats cool

[steady sail]

i mean my father bought that hdd 10 years ago or what a long time ago and its still runing without any problem

[hasty thunder]

yep, seems about right

[steady sail]

i could get another BX500 for more games

[smoky frigate]

I still have one of these as a movie drive for my projector. very old. insidious though, since they wear out faster unless you disable a feature of them in their firmware

[smoky frigate]

I almost want to take advantage of that price and snag a handful, but that would be overkill

[fair gull]

i should really replace my OS ssd and games SSD to take advantage of the newer stuff my mobo can now do

especially cause my 860eco is sata m2

[steady sail]

i never gonna change that 860 evo sata m.2 ssd

[hasty thunder]

there won't be a lot of advantage tbh, the difference in boot ups between PCIe 4 and 5 is non-existent

[analog sinew]

same now that i see it i wanna snag one for the next pc

[hasty thunder]

the real advantage comes when you choose to load a video into a video editor

[analog sinew]

pcie5 is there to be hot

but yeah pcie4 is good enough for gaming

unless you need to load the whole game into memory for some reason

ig

[hasty thunder]

like the guy who loaded Doom 2016 into the VRAM of a 3090?

[steady sail]

3:

[hasty thunder]

i'm starting to like editing videos

[fair gull]

im booting at sata speed

[steady sail]

same

[hasty thunder]

wait... How on fucking earth do you guys boot at 14 seconds with shit using Sata speed?

[steady sail]

whats your load up speed

[hasty thunder]

are you guys even shutting it down properly?

21 seconds using a PCIe 4 NVMe

no bloatware at all

[fair gull]

im botting in uh

lemme quickly remove the taskmanager debugger

that much

with bitlocker and all

[ashen spindle]

ddr4 still I assume?

[hasty thunder]

what on... That's no boot time... that's deep sleep at best

[fair gull]

no im on ddr5 since the new 7800x3d

[ashen spindle]

ah nice

[fair gull]

no that shit gets disabled on any win install i ever did even for customers

it causes so many issues its not worth it

[hasty thunder]

Ok... something is fucky...

[ashen spindle]

the task manager counter also doesnt start counting the moment its powered on but the moment after mem training happened and then boots up

[unkempt lake]

All depends on mobo tbh

We had this discussion the other day

[fair gull]

pretty sure all OSs can only count from after that

[hasty thunder]

how on earth can you guys boot into Win 10 in less than 20 seconds with slower hardware? That's pissing me off rn

[ashen spindle]

yes but in terms of actual bootup time from power on which can be different you cant just compare that counter

[analog sinew]

burn ur pc

[unkempt lake]

Am5 slow boot times be like

[steady sail]

uhm im on win 11

[ashen spindle]

whats your board and ram?

[fair gull]

spend more of your ceo money on a good pc maybe?

[analog sinew]

lol

[hasty thunder]

X570 Aorus Master Rev 1.2
4x 8 GB 3800 14-14-14-34

[unkempt lake]

4 sticks that's why

[fair gull]

not that i think my 9-10seconds i have is a particularly good time

[unkempt lake]

You'd boot faster with 2

[ashen spindle]

4 sticks hurts boot times as well as not running at jedec limits

[steady sail]

but im on 4 sticks as well

b450 4x8gb 3200

[ashen spindle]

3200 jedec or xmp timings?

[steady sail]

docp timings

[hasty thunder]

probably XMP

3200 isn't JEDEC standard for DDR4

[ashen spindle]

ddr4 jedec goes up to 3200

[unkempt lake]

Yep

[ashen spindle]

1600 to 3200

[hasty thunder]

So... You tell me i'd boost faster with 3200 14-14-14-34?

[unkempt lake]

@hasty thunder 7800x3d 32gb 6000cl30 msi x670e gaming plus wifi sn770

[ashen spindle]

dunno, most people that run 4 sticks usually run workstations

so could be anything from bios to board to ram to cpu to all of them making it slower

[hasty thunder]

ok, guess i'll check what on fucking earth might be wrong with my PC

[fair gull]

i just run 2 32gb stick CL40 with some timings

dont care. everything runs well

[ashen spindle]

could just be the board being slow to train the memory

[steady sail]

[unkempt lake]

Mine was horrendous before the bios update

[smoky frigate]

my CPU undervolt+overclock and RAM overclock may have some weird side effects, I remember x265 encodes taking 100% all the time, now it oscillates

[ashen spindle]

as an example so same differences can happen on other boards

[unkempt lake]

Like... sometimes i'd literally stand up go grab some water come back and it still wasn't booted

[hasty thunder]

oh right... Wasn't there a new AGESA version recently?

[unkempt lake]

Msi is the slowest xD

[unkempt lake]

Yep

[smoky frigate]

this is mission-center on linux

[steady sail]

i have to do a bios upgrade xd

[unkempt lake]

It dramatically improved boottimes on my msi board

[ashen spindle]

the agesa boot times are am5 improvements not am4

x570 is am4 so wont matter there

[steady sail]

on a b450 board

[smoky frigate]

it's the best task manager clone, I highly recommend it

[fair gull]

whatever this frequency is supposed to be

2595.3mhz

yes

[ashen spindle]

2600 so 5200MT

[hasty thunder]

5200

[unkempt lake]

slo boi

[smoky frigate]

so do I but mission-center is better

[fair gull]

ikik just funny it reads the base clock as 99.8mhz

[hasty thunder]

slow indeed

especially at CL40

[fair gull]

fast enough for everything i do

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter, for one its jedec so its stable for another reason hes far from 1080p so ram performance basically doesnt matter

[unkempt lake]

Then you didn't need a 7800x3d lol

;P

[ashen spindle]

thats not how that works

[hasty thunder]

[fair gull]

youre right id need a faster cpu

[unkempt lake]

You get what i mean tho

[ashen spindle]

yes but it doesnt apply in his case

[hasty thunder]

tbf, he definitely needed an upgraded

[unkempt lake]

What's an extra few bucks when spending that much

[ashen spindle]

whats an extra few bucks that dont change anything

wasted extra few bucks it is

[unkempt lake]

I play at the same res as him and i still got myself some decently fast ram

[fair gull]

it wasnt a money problem.... it was an ICBA to figure out the best option problem

[unkempt lake]

Was on sale too

[fair gull]

so i picked the first suggested one

[ashen spindle]

and hes happier at jedec so its stable and wont lose any fps really

[hasty thunder]

[fair gull]

yall can rebuild my setup and test faster ram in the one scenario i do get massive fps drops. and then i can decide to just... buy new ram

[fair gull]

not like itll kill me

ah also reconfirms i remembered right my 860evo is an m2 sata drive

[astral haven]

The advantage of slow RAM is there's no penalty for mixing and matching, especially when you go super high capacity

[ashen spindle]

and jedec stability

[fair gull]

not like ill go 4sticks

ever

[hasty thunder]

i mean you could go with...

[analog sinew]

4 sticks is the devils memory

any good christian knows the LORD intended for two sticks

[balmy vector]

1 stick

[steady sail]

a single 16gb stick

[analog sinew]

heretic, the one stick is the stake you'll be burned at

[balmy vector]

I use 2

[analog sinew]

✝️

[fair gull]

mainly dont wanna deal with any ddr5 stuff related to 4sticks

[analog sinew]

yeh

[fair gull]

its another debate i just dont wanna deal with cause lazy

[hasty thunder]

you guys are lame ass. 4 it is, 4 it will be

[analog sinew]

i will just buy two ddr5 and that will be that

i need flat ones tho to fit a phat aircooler

[balmy vector]

Yeah 2 ddr5 to 32gb is enough for me

[analog sinew]

thats the main concerm

[fair gull]

i mean i assume theres single 64gb sticks of ddr5

[hasty thunder]

yep

[analog sinew]

sick

ill get 2x32 prolly

[hasty thunder]

oh, wait... no

[fair gull]

thats my current config is 2x32

[hasty thunder]

wonder what a kit with 48 GB per stick costs

[analog sinew]

money

[ashen spindle]

50% more than 32gb kits

[steady sail]

im happy with 32gb ram :)

[analog sinew]

32 GIGS OF MEMORY AT RAM RANCH SUCKING DDR5 BANDWIDTH

[hasty thunder]

ok, i'm definitely stupid... There you go, @fair gull

[steady sail]

just go with 2x96gb module

[analog sinew]

128

wild

[fair gull]

is that non ecc though

[unkempt lake]

Kinda regret going 2x16 instead of 2x24/2x32

MSFS 24 gonna kill my system ram wise

._.

[ashen spindle]

you can get 512gb sticks in the spec but that wont be on consumer dimms

[unkempt lake]

They hadn't announced it back then ):

[ashen spindle]

you'll need mrdimms or similar for that

[fair gull]

yeah biggest i can find is 96gb kit with 2x48

[ashen spindle]

we will get up to 4x64 on consumer but not more

[hasty thunder]

holy crap...

yeaaaahhhh... no

[umbral heron]

Can't wait

[fair gull]

i was hoping for dual 64gb if i ever need more than 64gb

[analog sinew]

guys just stick a m.2 in the ram slot for 1tb of memory are they stupid?

[ashen spindle]

just go to server boards

[balmy vector]

Taky solution

[fair gull]

i use ram to sata adapters to plug in my 10tb hdd

[analog sinew]

mmmh

[fair gull]

work hard not smart

or smth

[umbral heron]

Just use cloud storage as swap
Terabytes of RAM to download

[unkempt lake]

@balmy vector how much ram are you running

[balmy vector]

Downloaded

I use 32gb total, 2 16 sticks

[unkempt lake]

Same as me

[ashen spindle]

I mean on servers they are going to expand ram via CXL so they reuse DDR4 vis pcie as expanded storage but thats specialzied usecases

[analog sinew]

just overvolt your ram to 5V and it becomes a cloud all by itself

[unkempt lake]

I'm just... really hoping MSFS24 won't stutter like a bitch on 32gb of ram

._.

[hasty thunder]

the best 2 stick kits i can find are 92 GB... sry

[umbral heron]

No, magic smoke must be inside, otherwise it won't work

[hasty thunder]

[unkempt lake]

Msfs2020 takes ~24gb of my ram

[analog sinew]

when will they make W models finally

[unkempt lake]

2024 is supposed to be even more ram hungry

[umbral heron]

2x48 is the most you can get nowadays, soon should pop up 2x64 kits

I spent a lot of time looking for 64G sticks

[fair gull]

im aware

[hasty thunder]

honestly, there's a simple rule. If it ain't listed on Geizhals it simply doesn't exist yet

[umbral heron]

Are there Corsair Vengeances RGB 6000CL30 2x48 available?
Here they're out of stock everywhere

[unkempt lake]

Saw them on newegg canada lol

I'll dropship em to you

Lol

https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-96gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820982050

[umbral heron]

I'd rather buy in EU, warranty and stuff

[unkempt lake]

500cad

These boys are expensive

[hasty thunder]

https://geizhals.de/corsair-vengeance-rgb-schwarz-dimm-kit-96gb-cmh96gx5m2b6000c30-a2999912.html?hloc=de&hloc=at

oddly enough Amazon germany has some for 350€ and 14 Cents

[umbral heron]

Oh, Amazon, nice

They try really hard to gain market share here, so shipping for almost everything is free from EU

[unkempt lake]

yes

I just said they were 500cad earlier

368usd in canada

[hasty thunder]

sucks to be canadian

[ashen spindle]

keep in mind eu prices include about 20% VAT so if you convert that you need to remove that much first

[unkempt lake]

Price i was talking about was direct from newegg here

[hasty thunder]

but hey, that happens when you live by the slogan 'it's never a war crime the first crime'

[unkempt lake]

I didnt convert to euros

In denmark it's 25%

[ashen spindle]

its a different tax system, only comparing one of them doesnt make sense

[hasty thunder]

well, 19% in germany

[hasty thunder]

exactly

[umbral heron]

23%

[hasty thunder]

well, yeah, just like every US state has different taxes

[ashen spindle]

every country has their own tax laws

[unkempt lake]

A bit like each province pays a different amount

[ashen spindle]

because well, they are all their own country

[unkempt lake]

Like here it's 5% federal + 9.975% provincial for me but go elsewhere in canada and it will vary (the provincial sales tax)

[hasty thunder]

besides, RAM for 350€ this big is still quite cheap for european standards

[hasty thunder]

wait for the upcoming G.Skill Royals and tell me these are cheap

[unkempt lake]

They're so ugly

I hare them

Looks like they're made from like... halloween jewelry from a dollar store

[hasty thunder]

well, agree... compared to their DDR4 equivalent the DDR5s are like a freak show

[unkempt lake]

Who the fuck buys them

Seriously

[hasty thunder]

Who designed them should be the real question here

definitely not YTer

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-i-love-gold-goldmember-gif-19735343

[unkempt lake]

^this guy

[umbral heron]

G.Skill Royals Goldmember edition

[median imp]

u guys actually thinks this makes a different in game or just for typing??

[unkempt lake]

Even has a gpu to match it

[hasty thunder]

Wait... Are you guys sure we're talking about the same G.Skill Royals? Because honestly? They don't look so bad apparently

[balmy vector]

The cheesePU

[unkempt lake]

@hasty thunder

[hasty thunder]

ah yes, the eWoke

[smoky frigate]

rofl this looks fucking dumb

[unkempt lake]

The ddr5 version

[hasty thunder]

these were the standard DDR4 royals... and yeah, no one liked the gold ones

[unkempt lake]

Ddr5 still looks horrendous

[hasty thunder]

the royal elites however.... hoooooo boy

what a sight to look at these

[unkempt lake]

The gold still looks awful

Silver looks... not great but at least it's not horrible

[umbral heron]

That "Trident" font makes it look so cheap

[unkempt lake]

They still look tacky

But big improvement

Like... maybe with the rgb off in a white system?

[hasty thunder]

yeah... got a bad angle when i took the Pic

they look way better in person

just ask @reef patrol

he got some from his time as a hardware reviewer too

but boy, do these things like to get fingerprints all over them

no wonder G.Skill included a cloth

the perks these kits came with was nothing short of a royal treatment either

life long warranty AND for each royal Elite kit sold they'd put the same kit in their storage, just in case you'd need a full replacement

they dropped the spare kit practice after the 4th or 5th batch tho

[reef patrol]

How is this a complaint? Stop touching your RAM after it's installed.

It takes all of five seconds to wipe a glossy surface clean with a towel or something.

[hasty thunder]

but you'd need to touch them anyway when installing

[reef patrol]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hasty thunder]

that wasn't the reason for the ping tho

i was talking about the look of them

[unkempt lake]

Only way i could see someone using thos

White or silver mobo

Set color to #00000

Profit

[umbral heron]

I hate iCUE
No matter what I do, I still have rainbow vomit
IT'S NOT EVEN SYNCED

Works until next boot

[unkempt lake]

@umbral heron i never had issues with icue back when i was running ddr4 vengeance pros

I set it once to purple uninstalled it

And then it stayed synced forever

[hasty thunder]

Artemis?

[unkempt lake]

I even put them in a different system and the color followed the sticks

[umbral heron]

Needs iCUE installed alongside of it

[unkempt lake]

Guessing they must have changed something... shame

[hasty thunder]

wouldn't surprise me, Corsair are scumbags

[umbral heron]

I want to boot to Windows PE, change RGB, save to onboard memory and forget

[unkempt lake]

I know that's how it should work

It's how it did before!

Random question @hasty thunder wtf does gskill use for their rgb on their rgb ram

Just curious

Only ever had rgbless gskill kits

[hasty thunder]

i have the same issue rn. In order to control the display of my GPU i need GCC, but GCC doesn't support my mobo, because for some unknown, fucking weird reason they don't support X570, but do support B550. So my RAM is out of sync too

and without GCC the display of my GPU returns to default which is this stupid ass Aorus Pet

[hasty thunder]

whatcha mean?

wait... you're giving me an idea

[crimson wigeon]

There is

[hasty thunder]

no, there isn't

[crimson wigeon]

HID LampArray, in Windows known as Dynamic lighting

Yes

[hasty thunder]

Gigabyte uses their stupid proprietary ITE8688 protocol, Asus has armory crate communicating via their own proprietary bus system, etc.

[steady sail]

just broke the rgb on it

[umbral heron]

Corsair I believe is the biggest when it comes to RGB, and they won't budge from iCUE

[steady sail]

womp womp

[umbral heron]

At least it's a bit better than Polychrome piece of shit ASRock what the fuck?!

[crimson wigeon]

Acer AASUS ROG HP Logitech Razer SteelSeries

[hasty thunder]

oh pls, Corsair obviously won't budge, because there'd be no point in selling their iCue controllers

[hasty thunder]

Asus? No way... They'd rather die using their armory crate bullshit

[unkempt lake]

?

[hasty thunder]

i can get my RAM in sync again

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah, sadly

Because that would require actually updating those older devices

Can't have that!

[umbral heron]

I think I figured it out, I'll check later
Anywho, next paycheck comes with bonus
And it'll be time to see 192G of RAM in action

[hasty thunder]

lol

[steady sail]

i can already see Cals with 512gb ram

[hasty thunder]

yep...

[umbral heron]

Just wait until they'll retire Gen8 Proliants at my work
It'll be so much fun

[steady sail]

i wanna download some ram from u cals ?

[balmy vector]

About how much ram?
“Enough”

[hasty thunder]

not quite sure what he's about to do with this amount of RAM, but if he wants to keep 600 tabs open then all the power to him

[hasty thunder]

How to piss off a server? Just remove a fan

[steady sail]

he is building his own VPN's on his own pc

server angy

[umbral heron]

When I'm working from home I usually have all VMs with target OSes open at once, it takes too long to swap between each one
That takes about 50~55G of RAM
I can easily create and replicate OOM on my 32G work laptop

Anywho, sleep time, gotta wake up at 7 again
Goodnight

[steady sail]

eep well

[sudden imp]

Is carbon fiber the new mouse trend??

Pwnage, akitsu, wlmouse, fm, and asus all jumping on this

I was just suprised lol

fair lol

suprised logitech hasn't tried it or razer

true

yeah

[north tide]

that was for cleaning up the blood after the TridentZ metal thing cut you

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/afcn-chikn-nuggit-dialogue-english-iscream-gif-12011862864847136549

[north tide]

There was a DDR5 vendor advertising that their new and improved "heat spreader" resulted in temperatures only slightly hotter than bare DIMMs

[harsh flume]

I’m building a pc and like the simplistic all black look can anyone recommend good pc cases that aren’t massive and have good airflow?

[north tide]

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/torrent/torrent-compact/Black RGB TG Light Tint/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGBQcYvsgFM

[harsh flume]

I’ve heard lots of good things about that specific case I’m just not a big fan of the design I was looking into the pop silent but I also read that it’s airflow isint great and I need good airflow since no liquid cooling just fans

[leaden kiln]

formd t1 is not massive with good airflow 😎

[wind ferry]

anyone in here?

[wild coyote]

Opinion: Gigabyte has a shit software since the "update center" selects all and updates. Including installing Norton AV

You can remove, but after restart it re-selects all

ikr

[sweet tiger]

Hey good morning everyone I hope this is ok to ask but I’m looking for a new keyboard lately and currently stuck between two keyboards. Woofing or iqunox. I’m a Val player and saw both can be used for Valorant but I wanted to ask what ur opinions on it.

[old marlin]

actually intended feature

they are supposed to run for 30 seconds without throwing any errors if you remove a fan

so you can hotswap them

[thick elk]

Gigabyte hg as always had shit software imo. from redesigning their rgb, to their dual bios implementatuon.

[wild coyote]

Luckily I don't need their software

[old marlin]

no it ramps up to compensate for the lost airflow so it can continue working

that is a dl380 g8, I had quite a lot of them at work

in fact got one sitting right behind me atm

no it's off

got replaced recently

now that g9s are cheap

yea these don't take other mobos

they are not even intended to be removed out of the chassis unless you need to replace it

[harsh flume]

https://secure.newegg.com/shop/cart thoughts on this build?

[steady sail]

Just make a screenshot of it

Bc no one gonna see that cart

[harsh flume]

aw shit

https://gyazo.com/5ab6b5cdb7e11f7945c0109e8daaf31e

https://gyazo.com/98ac86dc2a45b35327763a6b08339bff

https://gyazo.com/ff86c723e63ab523d427ce650efa51a1

https://gyazo.com/24c4de208e9b330c1c9a1080b909228d

[umbral heron]

7950X3D?

[harsh flume]

this my first time building a pc if u have suggestions pls give them lol

[umbral heron]

If that's for gaming then 7800X3D will be better
If that's for workstation/gaming rig, 7950X3D is a way to go

[hasty thunder]

kinda, but not really. With the proper settings the 7950X3D will be just fine

[umbral heron]

If you want to play around with CPPC and CPU affinity, be my guest

[harsh flume]

i do content creation on davinici and lots of gaming so both of those kinds of things

[hasty thunder]

DaVinci had an update specifically for AMD. I can render a whole minute video in mere seconds now on a 5800X3D

[reef patrol]

It's 64GB

And RGB 😄

[hasty thunder]

even 5 minute stuff is rendered in less than 30 seconds

[umbral heron]

I'd say get 7800X3D and with difference in price check if you can get 4080

[harsh flume]

its not the rendering mostly the process intensive editing of 4k footage with lots of color grading my 1070 (yes 1070 dont roast me) is struggling so bad just with editing raw footage not color graded

i think im all good on space if thats what ur talking about the asus is a bigger itx case for sure should I still switch to an itx mobo?

oh shoot the asus cant fit that motherboard?

[harsh flume]

hmm what about 5080 coming out in early 2025?

[hasty thunder]

get a Fractal Design North or Torrent instead?

[harsh flume]

i really like the simplstic cases no rgb simple clean black any suggestions?

[umbral heron]

If you don't mind waiting a bit, then sure