🔌│tech

[unkempt lake]

I think i just didn't win the battery lottery

[steep creek]

got my 14 pm within the month it launched

[unkempt lake]

I'm jealous

Mine is a launch day 14 pro...

Not max

I have an iphone x in a drawer with a 56% battery health xD

[ashen spindle]

93% on my regular 14 too

[steep creek]

tho with this phone i tried to always stop charging at 80%
as an experiment

[distant tapir]

Is dat good?

[ashen spindle]

yeah

[steep creek]

yea i’d say so. 2 years ish and only 6% degradation

[steady sail]

I have a mobo problematic 11 pm in the drawer

[steep creek]

my aw ultra 1 which i preordered is at 98

[sudden imp]

I’ve seen this more than once for some reason seems deliberate

[unkempt lake]

I'm just... unlucky

:/

My battery was like melting ever since i got this thing

[ashen spindle]

oof

[steep creek]

dang

[unkempt lake]

It's technically within spec

Just

Shit

[steep creek]

well maybe they honor the replacement, worth to try i guess

[steady sail]

[distant tapir]

Idk what my iPhone 12 is at.

[ashen spindle]

went from 6s plus to 14 so thats quite good lifetime

[balmy vector]

Mhm, went from 8 to 14

[steep creek]

oh that’s a solid upgrade

[balmy vector]

My battery healths at 85% cuz i use it a lot

[steady sail]

I went from xr to 11 pm to 14

[unkempt lake]

Sending apple support a message lets see what they say

[steep creek]

nice

[distant tapir]

Remember when dropping you are phone on the ground meant that the back would come off and the battery would go flying?

[rough osprey]

i am phone?

[thin axle]

I used permanent glue on mine, jokes on you!

[minor citrus]

that only happened to me once, my Nokia 6210 fell front first on to the street and scratched so terribly I had to replace the front. we only had a color left that I really didn'T like... it was a sad day

[steep creek]

i thought you were toast

[rough osprey]

ye im confused

[unkempt lake]

I got a reply anything over 80 is not included and incurs a cost. The rep literally told me to extend it for 1 month and that it will most likely drop to 80 by the end of the month

[rough osprey]

getting my dex on tuesday

[steep creek]

ah what does it cost to extend?

[rough osprey]

such a long wait

whats gonna arrive first tho, mouse or 80he

[unkempt lake]

13.49cad/month

[thin axle]

Did you peek at ifixit to fix it yourself? that apple care program seems like a scam to me.

[steep creek]

personally i’d take that, seems pretty good. but up to you

[unkempt lake]

I got the og applecare for free

Was part of some promo with my carrier

[thin axle]

Why can't you just say it's 79%, then wait a few weeks for it to get there? I dunno.. 😐

[unkempt lake]

So effectively i'd only pay 13$ for a battery replacement

I'll just aggressively wirelessly charge it

LMAO

[minor citrus]

how many months can you try this before out of warranty repair would have been cheaper?

[thin axle]

Don't they have a pie calc for iphone? xD

[rough osprey]

also put a blanket or something over it

phone gotta be cozy

[thin axle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/ymvrrt/app_to_intentionally_drain_battery_quickly/ lol wow, they should just give you an exception... 😐

[minor citrus]

okay, I've looked into it myself. at 135 CAD you have 10 months, so one or two wouldn't be bad

[fierce terrace]

my iphone bricked

[unkempt lake]

Seems decent enough haha

[worthy garnet]

Hi I have a wooting 60he but when I try to add rappy snappy it tells me to update the firmware but when I try update, I can’t find any updates. Please advice

[steady sail]

beta.wootility.io

[thin axle]

Prolly need the beta version ^

[lucid robin]

guys the switched GEON RAW HE only have an actuation point from 0.1 to 3.4?

[gusty kiln]

@astral haven did samsung force you to use google messages? or did you always use google messages?

[astral haven]

ive always used google messages

[gusty kiln]

like it actually changed the icon on my screen, was like WTF for a sec

ah

wish google's dark mode was actually black

[astral haven]

It'll probably yeet Samsung messages eventually

[gusty kiln]

yeah that's what I got

[astral haven]

agreed 😦

wonder if theres a revanced patch for it 🤔

[gusty kiln]

that is the only reason I was using samsung messages, actually black

[astral haven]

ew no rcs

[gusty kiln]

true

but I did like the grouping feature

like it had tabs for contact groups

[astral haven]

oh yea hmm

[still loom]

yes

No one really uses above 3.4 anyway so there's nothing to worry about

[thin axle]

What if you add a riser between the switch and the pcb sensor?

[still loom]

That's for you to find out

It will likely result in a wobbly key

[thin axle]

0.6 mm gasket, got it, aliexpress here we go! 😄

[iron wave]

My userland Java USB library is coming along.

I'm going to guess that no one will be crazy enough to decode that message.

[sudden imp]

Apparently kingpin wanted to buy a wooting but couldn’t get one apparently

https://youtu.be/9Qx_76UhKeg?si=88kdQ4IiNArlDs__
9:07 minutes in he said it

He asked in another store if they had it at 10:34

[thin axle]

poor guy, he aint gunna find wooting at some asian market 😦

[dull hollow]

finally got my mb installed with my new cpu and ram

this shi took way too long

[final flame]

they've already by default been using google messages as the default installed for their lower end phones
that's how it was on my a14

[astral haven]

Neat
I wouldn't know when they changed, I swapped over to Google messages as soon as RCS dropped

[still loom]

who

[final flame]

competetive overclocker

[umbral heron]

Is Hiren’s BootCD PE kosher? I need to update firmware is some stuff and I don't really want to install the whole Windows only for that

[reef patrol]

I've used it before.

[fair gull]

its a good live windows cd/usb

used it almost daily at my old job

[old marlin]

yes

[umbral heron]

Alrighty, let's go with it then

[fair gull]

otherwise you can also always use freedos

[mighty olive]

hi, i just accidentally broke the stabiliser on my spacebar. Do I need any specific wootiong stabilizers? if i dont what stabiliser should i buy?

[fair gull]

they are standard clipin/screw in ones depending on which your pcb supports/you have

[mighty olive]

so i just google a clipin stabiliser and something will just come up that will work?

I think its the stabilizer that broke but im not 100% sure

[fair gull]

just need the right length

i mean you can make a post in #1019755933959733258 so people can help you figure out whats wrong

[mighty olive]

This is the stabiliser right?

[fair gull]

yes

idk how you determined its broken though

[mighty olive]

because my spacebar is crooked

like it leans one way

[fair gull]

pictures?

[fair gull]

have you checked that your spacebar is flat

[mighty olive]

wdym?

[fair gull]

put it on a flat surface like a kitchen tabletop

and see if it lays flat

or wobbles

looks like it has a bend

[mighty olive]

yeeah

its flat

[old marlin]

I mean it does sit crooked?

but I would check first if the stabilizer works

[old marlin]

if you pull the cross shaped stem on one side up the other one should follow

test that on both sides to make sure the wire is clipped in correctly

[mighty olive]

its 100% the stabilisers

one is aboive the other

[old marlin]

yea

looks like the wire is popped out

take the spacebar switch out

and remove the stabilizer

you just need to assemble it correctly

[mighty olive]

do i need a switch remover or anything?

[old marlin]

spacebar switch

[mighty olive]

or can i just take it out with fingers

[old marlin]

remove the spacebar switch first

and then I would recommend any hard-ish point object

[mighty olive]

yeah can i do that with fingers oir nah

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KtpE1mv23s

[old marlin]

no use a switch puller

[mighty olive]

like a spoon or smth?

[mighty olive]

ok

[fair gull]

we give a few options

[old marlin]

flathead, a toothpick, whatever

long fingernails can also work ig

[mighty olive]

i bite mine too much lol

[mighty olive]

tysm tho

[old marlin]

once you removed the switch, you press that small nub and then tilt the entire side of the stabilizer back, towards the wire

then do that on the other side

and then you can take it out

[mighty olive]

i dont see the wire

[old marlin]

it's on the rear-facing side

on the other side of the nub

[mighty olive]

nvm i see it

[old marlin]

the entire housing should easily tilt back without much force if you press that nub in a bit

[mighty olive]

goddamn

my keyboard is nasty

lmao

wait so how do i do it?

i press down the nubs and pull it upwards and towards the wire?

[old marlin]

no

you tilt them back

[mighty olive]

towards the bottom of the keyboard?

[old marlin]

no

upwards

it basically rotates around the wire a bit

[mighty olive]

towards the wire?

[old marlin]

yea

[mighty olive]

sorry im confused lol

[old marlin]

llike the side of it

[old marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly_bvrwTlpk

[mighty olive]

pull on the circleand upwards?

[old marlin]

just press on it a bit

and do one side after the other

[mighty olive]

ohhhhhhhhh

you can do it individually

[old marlin]

yea

[mighty olive]

that makes it alot easier

[old marlin]

got it out?

[mighty olive]

yeah

just managd to just now

[wild coyote]

Y'all know any software for linux that controls Asus tuf gaming laptops settings with gpu?

[mighty olive]

what is wrong with it?

[old marlin]

you see how it is clipped in in the rear

one the side that sat high you rotate the housing now to unclip it like this

[mighty olive]

sorry would u mind if we went into a vc and did it?

[old marlin]

can't rn

[mighty olive]

because its kinda hard to explain over text

oh ok

[wild coyote]

Send a voice message lmao

[umbral heron]

AsusCTL? https://gitlab.com/asus-linux/asusctl

[old marlin]

I assume the wire is below the stem in the stabilizer on one side instead of inside the housing

[mighty olive]

yeah?

i think so?

[old marlin]

after it unclipped you can pull the wire out of the housing

[mighty olive]

im assuming the oneon the right is the problem?

[old marlin]

yea

[reef patrol]

https://thekey.company/pages/stabilizers-assembly-guide

[mighty olive]

ok

[reef patrol]

Plenty of guides online you can use to check if it's assembled properly.

[old marlin]

just twist it like that

to unclip it

[wild coyote]

Seems to be mainly ROG instead of TUF

[mighty olive]

ok doine

what do i do now?

[old marlin]

ok, keep the stem inside the housing

[wild coyote]

Even their webpage is for ROG

[old marlin]

there should be 2 holes inside the stem on the end the wire goes into, the wire goes in the lower one

[mighty olive]

shit

[old marlin]

ok, the stem has 2 sides with holes, one with one big one and one with 2 smaller ones

[old marlin]

the 2 smaller ones face towards the side where the wire enters

[mighty olive]

This side?

[old marlin]

that is the housing

I mean this guy

[mighty olive]

oh ok

sorry im new to this

ok yeah i got the side with 2 holes

[old marlin]

yae put the stem in the housing, with the side with 2 holes on the same side as the hole for the wire in the housing

[mighty olive]

ok yeagh done

sorry that took me a while i tried to put itin the top lol im stupid as

[old marlin]

yea dw

now put the wire in the bottom hole of the stem

and clip it in

[mighty olive]

done

tysm for the help btw

[umbral heron]

Ayy, firmware updated
Now back to Linux

[winter creek]

The same thing happened with my stabs... I just changed switches to jade pro and after pulling keycaps my enter key is pinging like crazy. no grease nearby 😦

such stupid ting that something in the industry cant be done about that stabs so they ger replaced with less moving parts..

[leaden kiln]

be the change you want to see in the world

[winter creek]

why cant for example enter or shift key have 2x switches? is there any reason for that

[reef patrol]

Because then you have two keys conflicting with which is correct.

Stabs are literally switches without functionality

The wires are there to ensure that if you push on the far end, the other side goes down and up consistently with it.

[winter creek]

i see. this is the last thing that is annoying on the keyboards

ohoo. you guys recommend Molykote on your website. Did not know that. I have some but a bit different. It could be fine for this. I service Jura coffee automatic with this Molykote but its 55 for O rings. do you think that would work? I mean it works for coffee machine..

[fair gull]

for stabs grease is best and as long as its non conductive it should be fine

[old marlin]

as well as not being aggressive to plastics and being stable

[fair gull]

id say thats given by it contacting plastic

[old marlin]

different plastics react differently, seen multiple people use vaseline already

which dissolves stabilizers more often than not

[fair gull]

wut

thats not even grease

[old marlin]

yea the reason why it is not classified as a grease it kind of because it is bad as a lubricant

[winter creek]

https://www.dupont.com/products/molykote-55-o-ring-grease.html

[old marlin]

looks like it should work

idk why you would use that over something else but sure

make sure to have your stabs clean before applying it tho

[winter creek]

Because i have this in storage, got nothing else

[fair gull]

all they got on hand

[old marlin]

ah

[winter creek]

• its food grade rated 😄

since you drink coffee you know 😛

[sudden imp]

I know 😭 he’s looking for a plug

[winter creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSgRt7ChJOE
I have shit ton of it. 1KG 😄 its tempting to not over lube

[old marlin]

wtf is this bs again

bad notsobot istg

[compact relic]

What is good software for case rbg control?

[pale sigil]

Anyone got any suggestions on cheap email hosting or beer self hosting for Linux?

[umbral heron]

Beer?
For mail I use ProtonMail, way less hassle

[spare wedge]

Managing your own emails

💀

Well I heard that it got a lot better

[digital cliff]

yeah just use protonmail or something else you trust instead of hassling with all that self-hosting stuff

[true obsidian]

i need the blue wave keycaps in a nordic layout so bad

[digital cliff]

not likely

you can learn to touch type and ignore the legends

[dull hollow]

all i want to do is run a benchmark

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[dapper schooner]

Hello, im having some problems witb my 60he letting go of W/D/D while strafing in games. Ive already changed my switch but the problem still persist. In multiple games. Anyone got an idea what direction i should look in to fix this?

[dry dove]

yo idk if I am stupid or smth but I have this issue where my wooting 60he keys randomly go crazy the escape key turns into windows key

the W turns into crl+ W

and other keys go crazy

and only fix is restarting my pc

is that normal?

[reef patrol]

Stock cable?

[dry dove]

yeah

[reef patrol]

Tachyon mode?
Plugged directly into PC or a USB hub?
Does using a different cable have the same issue?

[dry dove]

I don't have a different cable and yes I yse tachyon mode

plugged into pc

[reef patrol]

Do you have RGB turned on?

[dry dove]

no, I thought the RGB does not work with tachyon mode

[reef patrol]

Animations don't, but you can still have lighting on the keys.

[dry dove]

oh I do have some lighting

[dry dove]

its not colorful though its just some super basic soft grey light to make the keys slightly more visible

[reef patrol]

What you can try is disable the light completely, maybe tachyon. Just to see if the issue is still there.
If it goes away, then you may have a bad cable that's causing glitching.

[steep creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3BKjZMGoIw

[quaint dew]

oh damn those bezels now

[reef patrol]

Why is it so rounded.

[steep creek]

they've been rounded for a long time, i guess its bit more comfortable to hold

[digital cliff]

that's extremely rounded yeah, not a fan

[late grove]

Rounded is indeed better but I think they are taking it too far.

[steep creek]

my 14pm also looks similarly rounded, personally i like it but its preference

[frozen ingot]

that

is rather smexy

am not paying whatever apples askin for it though

[quaint dew]

agreed

[frozen ingot]

maybe I can replace my 13 with that in like 2 years

[wheat plume]

Rounded is better
But less than this
Cause this intrudes on the status bar and the app margins at the bottom of the screen

The roundness levels on the Redmi Note 5 pro were great
Or the pixel 6a

[frozen ingot]

I like the roundness

together with those slim bezels

[wheat plume]

idc too much about the thickness of the bezels as long as they are all the same width

I hate phones that have super slim bezels but the bottom one is noticably thicker than the other 3

Thats why the design of the Nothing Phone is appealing to me, cause of the even bezel width on all 4 sides

[old marlin]

wdym, having stupid design flaws is the apple way™️

[wheat plume]

Nah, Android phones are just as rounded

and unlike iOS, the navigation gestire bar takes a tiny sliver of room across the display

while on iOS, its over the app content itself

so on iOS, the apps need to move content from the edges

[frozen ingot]

its not though?

[wheat plume]

it is, iOS doesnt have a bar across the display for the gesture bar to live inside

like a much slimmer 3 button navbar

[frozen ingot]

you mean the line at the bottom of the display?

[wheat plume]

this....

the app content doesnt go to the bottom of the display on Android

there is a margin where the navbar lives

[frozen ingot]

that's not what you said

you said it covers the apps content

[wheat plume]

on iOS yes

[frozen ingot]

which it isn't

[wheat plume]

apps need to redesign so it doesnt cover them

add more padding to the bottom edge and sides

[frozen ingot]

its not covering any content

[old marlin]

it does, depending on what kinda navigation thing you have

[frozen ingot]

it sits at the bottom in its own space

[old marlin]

but everyone copied that stupid bar from apple

[steep creek]

ive never noticed the bar cover anything for me either

[wheat plume]

I do prefer the gestures.....

3 button nav is so clunky

[old marlin]

yea because stuff gets pushed up

[steep creek]

yep

[leaden kiln]

Where is my 2 button navigation 😭 google had to kill it

[wheat plume]

I did like the 2 button one in Android 9 though

[old marlin]

same, you still have that useless bar there tho

[wheat plume]

2 NAV GANG REPRESENT WOOO

[leaden kiln]

It was kinda neat

[wheat plume]

on some brands you can hide it! like Xiaomi

[wheat plume]

yeah, I loved the app switching by sliding the bar!

it stills exists on Custom roms ...

[old marlin]

yea but xiaomi also hides other stuff

like a timer you set

[wheat plume]

huh?

[pale sigil]

Yes

It does and it pisses me off

[old marlin]

(i'm talking about their aggressive background task purging)

[wheat plume]

hides timers?

[pale sigil]

It also stops the timer because of battery shite

[wheat plume]

oohhh yeah...

[old marlin]

yea they just kill your clock app

[wheat plume]

wow

[frozen ingot]

like yeah the bar takes up some 3mm on the bottom of the display, but it doesn't cover any of the content

[old marlin]

so that food you tried to have in the oven for 15 minutes?

whoops, timer was over 3 minutes ago when you decided to check it yourself again

even if you manually exclude the clock from that

[wheat plume]

some apps do go under the navbar, like the settings

[old marlin]

that is scrollable content tho

on samsung it disappears on fullscreen content

doesn't change the way it acts obv

[wheat plume]

yeah, if the app has a tab bar at the bottom, then it shouldnt go under the navbar

Like youtube or gmail etc etc

[frozen ingot]

yeah it doesn't do that in the youtube app

[old marlin]

it does on samsung

as in, moves the bottom menu thing up

[leaden kiln]

What pisses me off more than 2 button nav being gone is that google keeps making 3 button less and less useful by taking stuff away

[old marlin]

so they are not obstructed

[wheat plume]

on iOS, its it up the app itself to add the padding so its not covered by the navbar, or does iOS tell the app how much space the navbar takes and to only drawn the app as far as that?

[wheat plume]

such as?

You can Circle To Search on 3 button AFAIK

and summon Assistant

[old marlin]

I would be surprised if iOS doesn't require apps to be as flexible as android apps in regards to screen ratios etc

[frozen ingot]

nevermind, if you're watching a video and scrolling the recommended videos underneath that it has the bar showing over the content, but not on the main scoll feed

[old marlin]

would make no sense to not do that

[wheat plume]

Arent all the iPhones at the same ratio?

[old marlin]

no

[wheat plume]

just different sizes

oh

[leaden kiln]

Can no longer have assistant open with the circle, can't have it on the corner either, can't do the history thing in chrome holding the back button, can't use one handed mode on pixel, can't open split screen by holding the square...

[old marlin]

SE still exists for example

[frozen ingot]

doesn't see how it really matters tho given that's not really where your eyes focus are

[wheat plume]

the history thing?

[old marlin]

and if apple ever changes the screen ratio, thickness of the bottom bar or something about the status bar all apps would break

[leaden kiln]

You could hold the back button to bring up a little popup with the history of the open tab

[wheat plume]

o.o

[leaden kiln]

Not super useful

[wheat plume]

cant do that on gestures it seems, it aint working for me

[leaden kiln]

But the rest are annoying

[old marlin]

history?

of a browser?

[leaden kiln]

In chrome

[old marlin]

seems like a chrome issue to me

[leaden kiln]

Well yeah google who makes chrome and makes android removed that feature

[old marlin]

android still does it

firefox still did it apparently

[wheat plume]

Android 15 has nice changes....but I heard its also removing sideloading????????

At the same time iPhone is ADDING sideloading??

[leaden kiln]

oh that's cool

[old marlin]

wasn't that just making it harder to give permissions to sideloaded apps?

which is still bs

but something different

[wheat plume]

oh maybe... .

[frozen ingot]

I mean lets face it google would love their own walled garden ecosystem just as much as apple, they just couldn't compete under those premises in androids early days so they marketed themselves as being more open to attract customers looking for that, now that they have a massive established userbase its a lot easier to start closing in the walls

[wheat plume]

Discord, please add this feature natively

[wheat plume]

Android cant have a walled garden as long as AOSP exists

[old marlin]

discord, please just don't add features and stop breaking more and more

[sudden imp]

I dont mess w/ side loading for security reasons easier to get malware when downloading something Apple doesn’t vet

[wheat plume]

use common sense and trusted sources and you are perfectly safe

[old marlin]

nobody needed this, instead let me send an image on my phone instead of trying to open the image picker 3 times

slightly different in what it does exactly, but #⏬│rappy_and_snappy

[sudden imp]

Oh definitely but I have younger siblings so it only takes a simple mistake for something like that yk

[wheat plume]

yeah :/

[leaden kiln]

Discord, go back to the mobile ui that had the dm button at the bottom

[old marlin]

oh also

[wheat plume]

Ive seen people fall for the "download GTA V on Android with this simple APK download" trick so many times....

[frozen ingot]

and you think megacorpos really care about such things in the end if it stands in the way of ultimate profitability?

[old marlin]

let me delete the voice message button, that is a feature that I never wanna use that can just send an audio recording in a random large server I have open at the time with a simple fatfingering

[wheat plume]

I know AOSP is not profitable, but it does allow more devs to get onboard without having to pay to make an account like on iOS

[frozen ingot]

hate to break it to ya but google is not your friend

[wheat plume]

Yep

[frozen ingot]

if they stand to make more profit by throwing open source communities under the bus they will without a moments hesitation

[wheat plume]

IDK if they can simple delete AOSP out of existance

especially since most manufactors use it to make their skins of Android for their devices

[frozen ingot]

I mean they created and develop android, ultimately they can make whatever changes they like

[wheat plume]

......2050, Android is only on Pixel devices

[old marlin]

assuming there is either one in 2050

[wheat plume]

assuming humanity isnt wiped out by 2050

[digital cliff]

yeah but since AOSP is open-source, someone else can just fork it

[wheat plume]

^

[frozen ingot]

sure someone else can just keep an alternate version alive

[old marlin]

yea or we get a replacement

[wheat plume]

you just may not be able to have microG or Gapps alive on it

[old marlin]

some weird tizen fork or a new symbian

[wheat plume]

the return of Tizen?

HarmonyOS is the closest we have to a non-Android OS, I think

but that still uses some AOSP shit

Ah, they are restricting "draw over screen", "Acting as device admin", "accessibilty access", "SMS access" and "Dialer access" permissions

[leaden kiln]

phosh

[wheat plume]

phosh is a cool project :D

and Plasma Mobile

[frozen ingot]

they should start by making the linux desktop good before thinking about the phone side of things

[wheat plume]

the desktop itself is great if you use a mainstream one like Gnome and Plasma

Gnome 47 is getting a whole shit ton of improvements for VR too

DRM Leasing stuff, idk what that is but its been a major block for good VR experiences apparently

VRR and HDR work great too on Gnome

Plasma is getting there too but I hate Plasma for gaming on, it feels stuttery in game despite having an FPS much higher than 60 ;-;

[spare wedge]

Me still waiting for gnome to implement HDR

[wheat plume]

It already does

[spare wedge]

No, not really

[wheat plume]

I have HDR option in my Bazzite install

[spare wedge]

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2356

[wheat plume]

whats with the - in the URL?

Oh maybe I have HDR because of GameScope

[spare wedge]

I have no clue what’s with the - actually lol

[wheat plume]

never seen that before just on its own :')

This change is GREAT for screen recording, cause RN, you have to open your notification shade to stop the screen recording and sometimes you dont wanna do that because you dont want others to see your messages

you can just tap this and it stops the recording

Oh, screen casting works the same way now...very neat

[leaden kiln]

samsong gives you a massive thing to manage screen recordings lol

[wheat plume]

Yeah, I like that too but its visible in the recording

[leaden kiln]

nah it isn't

[wheat plume]

ooooo, Desktop mode works on tablets now :D no longer needto be using an external display

this is great :D

[leaden kiln]

better work on the fold too

[wheat plume]

Im sure it will, that is a tablet pretty much

whats this horrible drop shadow on the left side of the window???

I blame being in beta

[sudden imp]

Did anyone see the “I was right video” if Microsoft stops using kearnal access anticheats would it make window and Linux parity better?

[balmy vector]

Never liked window drop shadows

[wheat plume]

I hope it will allow more anticheats to support Linux but I doubt it

[wheat plume]

same, I prefer how Windows does it with a colored border around the app window

[balmy vector]

Mhm, even in windows i turn off the drop shadows. Just more clearer

[wheat plume]

yeah, drop shadows arent good in dark theme either,cant see them

[balmy vector]

Yup

[wheat plume]

Lets switch to colored border

[ashen spindle]

entirely depends on how the new method works

[balmy vector]

Rgb rainbow cycle borders when

[wheat plume]

LOL

you can do that ona tiling window manager, theoretically anyway

you could make a script that changes the color iin your config file,

[balmy vector]

I should invest in that

Id go coffee borders

[wheat plume]

but that would require reloading the window manager each time it changes

[leaden kiln]

unless you use one that auto reloads when the config changes

[wheat plume]

you still get your keyboard and mouse inputs disrupted for a second or so

and the desktop freezes during the reload,so its not seamless at all

I should give Hyprland a go sometime

but I cant be assed to manage every single detail of the config files .-.

or finding out how to set up wifi and shit and wallpaper and themes

[leaden kiln]

mfw wiki

I like swayfx better

and also the devs aren't insane

[wheat plume]

....good point LOL

does it have the pretty animations when you open and close windows?

I want window manager animation, got too disorientated and nauseous when there arent any animations

[leaden kiln]

I don't know
Probably not yet
last time I used it animations were wip

[wheat plume]

ah..thats the main draw of Hyprland for me TBH, or InstantWM

but idk if InstantWM is still being worked on... or if it even supports Wayland

[digital cliff]

I don't care about animations but hyprland is nuts in terms of development speed

keep adding new features so damn quickly

and the ecosystem they're building is really nice I have to say

[wheat plume]

yeah, the dev speed is crazy

just like the dev..........

[digital cliff]

i don't know much about vaxry

i've opened a bunch of issue on git and sometimes they've not been the best rep there is but been interested in fixing the bugs at least

[wheat plume]

The only issues ive made on Github is a PR to fix Steam Deck detection in ani-cli

it checked for default hostname ...which I change... so it no longer worked

[digital cliff]

oh I can't code

I just go complain when my odd and particular usecase makes a bug happen

then I usually get treated like shit because I don't understand coder speak when they ask me to do something complicated to check something

[dull hollow]

now that i got the time to troubleshoot the issue i had with my last build, it seemed like a memory controller on my 3700x somehow died

all pins on the back of the cpu were fine and it was tested on 2 different motherboards

tripled checked with 3 different sets of ram

if a stick of ram was occupying the 3rd slot (left to right), the pc wont boot into windows

[late grove]

Ryzen and RAM.
The never ending war.

[ashen spindle]

hmm sounds like a board issue if the slot being occupied caused it

but hey new pc parts are nice too I guess

[dull hollow]

tested on 2 different motherboards

[ashen spindle]

oohh thats what you mean

I see, did you oc or did it just stop working one day?

[dull hollow]

it was also posting earlier and was working fine, a simple on-off and then it wouldnt post anymore

[dull hollow]

it just stopped working when i was done dusting the pc

you know i was just tryna take care of it and then that happens

oh well new parts

[ashen spindle]

@fickle ore who needs crypto when you can just gamble the same on intel

[dull hollow]

iphone 16 reveal 💀

[alpine patio]

[magic minnow]

Battery life what conditions idk

[steep creek]

neat

[magic minnow]

https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/iphones/apple-iphone-16-pro-max-review

[reef patrol]

The day when the EU enforces Apple and other manufacturers to make batteries swappable without shattering two glass surfaces and risking getting NOT LEGITIMATE BATTERY warnings, is the day I'll - consider an iPhone 😄

[steep creek]

yeah very fair. 2027 couldnt come sooner

[steep creek]

so far at least the battery seems very nice

[magic minnow]

They actually made it easier to swap now, compared to older phones

[steep creek]

my 14 pm already lasts so long ahah

[dull hollow]

wasnt the 14pm battery “bad” compared to the 13pm

[reef patrol]

You still need to replace the water resistance goop as far as I know, and you can't get a legitimate battery replacement in a fair and easy manner.

[magic minnow]

That is true

[steep creek]

yeah its for sure not as easy as a fairphone, or those old phones with plastic back covers

[magic minnow]

Ordered this for my Steamdeck

[distant tapir]

My dream case (Era 2) got a positive review from Gamer's Nexus. That's fortunate.

[wheat plume]

Why would you want squishy anything for a button?

[magic minnow]

;3; ask Valve

[wheat plume]

The only squishy buttons on the stock deck are the steam and QAM buttons.... And that's just on LCD models

[leaden kiln]

The og buttons are really nice

[wheat plume]

Yeh they are!

Better on OLED model imo

[magic minnow]

I'm swapping out the D Pad and Buttons too

I'm hoping this makes the dpad feel better

[wheat plume]

Oo

Hmm
Replacing a dpad with 4 separate buttons seems counterintuitive?

[magic minnow]

It's connected at the middle but has more of a circular finish

[wheat plume]

Ohh
Hmm

So you can still do diagonals
I'll admit
It looks way nicer than the smooth all black stock dpad

Would look even better on the Limited Edition OLED model

[magic minnow]

;3; yeah just hoping it feels nice irl

[magic minnow]

Yeh! That's why I got it in that color

[wheat plume]

Oh
These aren't your photos?

[wheat plume]

You have the LE????

[magic minnow]

No those are from the Etsy page

[magic minnow]

Yeh!

[wheat plume]

Lucky bastard.....

[magic minnow]

They had a lot in stock honestly

[wheat plume]

These are the best quality Etsy photos I've ever seen.

[wheat plume]

Yeh but money ..... I only got 350 for my LCD deck

[magic minnow]

I sold my friend my old LCD one for the same price too!

[wheat plume]

Oo the material you theme!

I love that shit so much

Sadly
My decky loader has been unreliable since the last stable update :'(
Sometimes it shows up
Sometimes it's not there anymore

[magic minnow]

Have you tried doing a fresh install of it? :c

[wheat plume]

No
Got too much games installed that I don't wanna redownload because my Wi-Fi is way too slow for that shit

[magic minnow]

Ohhh no just like reinstall deck loader

Not a complete format of the device

[wheat plume]

The problem is
The decky installer doesn't work on Bazzite
Bazzite has its own way to install it and idk how to run that other than in the initial Bazzite setup process

It worked up until the last update
Maybe it's on bazzite's end and not steam

[magic minnow]

Ohhhhh! I don't have that :c is it a different OS?

[wheat plume]

Yep
It's a Fedora Atomic based version of Linux that works the same as SteamOS :D
And way way more up to date for the kernel and graphics drivers

It's got game mode and desktop mode just like SteamOS
Updates are handled the same way too

But
Unlike SteamOS
If you wanna install system packages you can do so using rpm-ostree and they aren't removed during system updates

Sadly
You have to install the packages via command line
There is no GUI for rpm-ostree

But that's fine, you can use a GUI to lookup the package names beforehand

[magic minnow]

Ohhhh that sounds neat!

[magic minnow]

Me too dumb for command lines

[leaden kiln]

I got almost full price selling my deck but it was the oled

I liked watching videos on it but I didn't use it enough

Video players are kinda caner without keyboard shortcuts and now my phone is almost as big as the deck

[wheat plume]

rpm-ostree install Firefox
Is all you need

Well, replace Firefox with the name of whatever it is you wanna install

[wheat plume]

Wtf phone you got that's 7.2 inches?

[leaden kiln]

I found flatpak to be sufficient for my deck usage

[leaden kiln]

Yeah but not the right aspect ratio

Foldable

[hasty thunder]

how about npm install?

[stuck fox]

So I applied to a role at wooting and the role has been taken down. I guess I got rejected. Any chance I can get some feedback or somethin.

[wheat plume]

Npm is specifically for web dev shit xd

[wheat plume]

Ooohhhhh

[leaden kiln]

7.6" but videos are still probably bigger on a deck, since the aspect ratio will fit most videos better

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/326753/asus-republic-of-gamers-announces-availability-of-rog-harpe-ace-extreme

[late grove]

Thanks, that's all I needed to know.

[steep creek]

wow lol it is expensive

[late grove]

Yeah this new "extreme" lineup is nonsensical.

Expensive for sake of being expensive.

[leaden kiln]

One device to use every usb port on the back of my mobo

[frozen ingot]

asus executives smoking crack

isn't that like what a zaunkoenig costs

[astral haven]

can confirm

[frozen ingot]

like I'd maybe pay something like that for a carbon fiber shell mouse if 1. it had a very comfy shape and 2. you could actually replace/upgrade the guts of it

like I don't want to pay that kind of money then throw it away in 2 years because the mousewheel or a switch fucked off

[astral haven]

thats not very pro gamer of you

[gusty kiln]

there are some pros who use Qck like consumables

[steep creek]

my superlight scroll wheel barely lasted one year before i rma'd it

i doubt this asus one will last longer

[gusty kiln]

at least you can RMA it, still up in the air with Asus

claim to be making changes

[frozen ingot]

I'm actually amazed how long my gpw has lasted given all the problems I've heard its started having one issue though and its one of the sidebuttons of all the things

[steep creek]

lol yeah

[gusty kiln]

GPW was a tank

80g for a reason

[steep creek]

ironically enough my other one has the same sidebutton issue as yours, but scroll wheel is fine

[frozen ingot]

I actually really like it, but am not a competitive sweatlord either

[gusty kiln]

it's a good shape

it's like the vanilla flavor of mouse shape

[steep creek]

yeah shape fit my hand well too, battey was super nice

[frozen ingot]

I did upgrade the skates on it

[gusty kiln]

GPX2 skates were dog water

changed it ASAP

[frozen ingot]

and yes battery life decent, I have no complaints about the responsiveness or accuracy of the sensor, weight isn't that bad for someone who used to grow up with 150g ball mice and yeah pretty comfy to use overall

[astral haven]

low key regret upgrading to superlight
an update permanently broke my settings 😦
even the new competitive app or w/e couldnt fix it

[gusty kiln]

rip

[frozen ingot]

there was a blowout sale on gpw recently and I actually grabbed another to keep me going another couple years

[leaden kiln]

I love using my wireless mouse wired for like a week because I don't bother unplugging it
Battery life has been really good on my gpx though but my usage habits are maybe weird

[frozen ingot]

haven't started using that one yet tho, probably should soon so the battery don't start to rot

just gonna order some skates for it

[gusty kiln]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/pro-2-lightspeed.910-007246.html

they made an update to the original GPW

[frozen ingot]

they're really large too compared to the gpw, wouldn't that create more friction?

[gusty kiln]

some people go with dots to combat that issue

but the materials of the original GPX2 skates was bottom bin tier

[leaden kiln]

I though surface area didn't affect friction?

[frozen ingot]

more surface area touching something = always more friction

physics innit

[gusty kiln]

yeah especially if the skates are uneven

gets really scratchy

[frozen ingot]

its pretty meh on the og gpw too tbh, I compared the brand new one to my old gpw with near 2yo tiger ice skates on it and the difference is huge

[gusty kiln]

the GPW 2.0 have usb c finally

and optical switches

[solemn marsh]

wait what

[frozen ingot]

yeah that's nice, tho to be fair I haven't had issues with the micro-usb on my gpw

[solemn marsh]

how long has logitech still been using micro usb lmao

[frozen ingot]

and I normally hate micro-usb with a burning passion

[gusty kiln]

GPX2 finally had usb-c

the original GPW finally got an update to USB-c

[frozen ingot]

the reinforced cable with the stabilizing fins or what to call them does make a difference to the longevity of the micro-usb on it

least bit of flexing and shits ruined

just pulled the trigger on a new mobo

getting the rest in a few weeks

[leaden kiln]

with more contact area the pressure on the skates will be spread out on a larger area, so less pressure on each part of the skates
I don't remember hs physics super well but I think friction force isn't dependant on contact area

[frozen ingot]

in engines it plays a big part

you generally want to avoid as many contacting elements as possible

[leaden kiln]

is that because of friction forces being higher with increased contact area or is it for other reasons

[astral haven]

its because nothing is perfectly flat, and nothing is perfectly toleranced either

[empty wren]

Actually it is static friction for a larger surface area of contact that is larger

[astral haven]

yea but its still not dependent on the area

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/326755/terramaster-announces-9-new-nas-models-with-tos-6-system

terramaster actually using laptop cpus in their nas

[astral haven]

well the options are laptop chips and xeon D

and xeon D starts at obscene prices and goes up from there

[gusty kiln]

xeon D?

[astral haven]

cheapest product i can find with the most expensive cpu there

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Generation-Processor-Fingerprint-Bluetooth/dp/B0CCPN5TQJ

https://www.wdlsystems.com/ADLINK-Express-ID7-Intel-Xeon-D-1712TR-7COM-Express-Type7
cheapest product i can find with the cheapest xeon d, which is as close as you get to this market in the pro skus

[gusty kiln]

hmmm

[astral haven]

also the xeon is slooow

and the n### cpus are goated

they arent strong but they are insane perf/watt

[gusty kiln]

yeah the only issue is limit pcie

[astral haven]

why is that an issue?

[gusty kiln]

for people who want an all SSD nas

n305 would be great

[astral haven]

people who want an all ssd nas but are only going 10 gig dont need more than 1 lane per m.2

[gusty kiln]

unlkess you're talking general use

[astral haven]

even for general use n95 is solid

and the n305 is sweet

[gusty kiln]

I want a N305 with like 8+ 3.5 bays

[astral haven]

trouble with that tho is it only has 6 sata on board

[gusty kiln]

yeah

would have to sacrifice some lanes for a sata adapter

[astral haven]

m.2 to sata adapters 😛

https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Adapter-Desktop-Support-RAID-PM2TS6/dp/B09N34NKT1

love this cursed bs

[gusty kiln]

kek

[fickle ore]

5%`? Oo my recent watchlist says -2

[astral haven]

different exchanges prolly

[fickle ore]

FED cut 50 bps econ in shambles

RIEP

[vapid ruin]

Lookin at Logitech's new HE KB. Could be worth if it's good enough, but regular 80he cost the same and it's only extra $50 for shipping+import tax.

[fickle ore]

i wudnt trust logikek

its better to have f/w thats semi transparent than not

[umbral heron]

Looks like usual OEM board in Logitech's case
Also you'd have to use G Hub

[vapid ruin]

at least in my area, rm900 (~$200)

[vapid ruin]

Logitech's stuff have on board memory, been using my g915tkl with it all the time and don't have to look back at it. Not sure about the HE keyboard though.

[hasty thunder]

you guys didn't see shit yet

[astral haven]

scarey but i wouldnt be too spooked, things are funky now

[hasty thunder]

[vapid ruin]

tbh, logitech released it too little too late or else I would've considered it

[fickle ore]

Its gonna be Septembear, octobear, novembear and decembull

lol i cant write for shit

[steep creek]

lol funny name

[ashen spindle]

defautl google shows me frankfurt not nasdaq

[smoky frigate]

The latest GNOME release introduces the ability to play games that uses Virtual Reality (VR) headsets, while using Wayland desktop sessions. This feature will not be used automatically by all games and gaming platforms, and will require integration work on the part of games vendors.

[halcyon moss]

oh.. doomed to fail then

[smoky frigate]

yeah. not to mention that Linux VR headset gaming is a subset of a subset of a subset

VR users -> PC VR users -> Linux PC VR users
I think there's like 3 of those

[astral haven]

except this is probably being pushed by valve

[leaden kiln]

valve doesn't care about vr on linux
steamvr is ass on linux

[umbral heron]

If Valve were pushing this, they'd probably do so with KDE

[astral haven]

kinda but no
valve is solo developing vr on linux, but they are developing it for a standalone headset, not normal steamvr

[leaden kiln]

I think it will just work at this point
After the regular steps to get vr on linux, not every game will work but proton works for a lot

[ashen spindle]

steamvr is ass now on linux but they likely make a push on the release of next hardware

[leaden kiln]

If this is that they added drm leasing finally

[astral haven]

nah, i think steamvr is gonna stay bad on linux, but whatever headset they make will be running linux

[smoky frigate]

the weird part is the gnome part of it. who would specifically tailor their VR application for gnome? that's not even the go-to gaming DE

[ashen spindle]

might still be worse but I imagine at least a bigger push one release

[smoky frigate]

you're tailoring it to one single window manager, mutter, and that's an atrocious idea

so this just boggles my mind

[crimson wigeon]

No one's doing that, this just means they added support for the standard DRM lease protocol

[leaden kiln]

Where is this from? Can I have the article or pull or whatever

[smoky frigate]

https://release.gnome.org/47/

[leaden kiln]

Well yeah this doesn't seem like anything gnome specific, just a disclaimer that not everything will work

[crimson wigeon]

https://wayland.app/protocols/drm-lease-v1 This proto, observe how Mutter is one of the few compositors that didn't support it... until now!

[smoky frigate]

ermahgerd, so it's just catching up. that makes far more sense than what I initially thought

COSMIC supported it in alpha 1? wow!

[halcyon moss]

current is alpha 1?

[leaden kiln]

aint nobody gonna play vr in their alpha de but that's neat i guess
not even particularly surprising it's just gnome that's slow

[smoky frigate]

yeah, alpha 2 is already announced

[smoky frigate]

I met one guy who mained the git packages from the AUR directly after alpha 1 dropped, which is certainly a choice

[dull hollow]

does anyone know what program this is?

app name was cut off

[umbral heron]

HWInfo

Sensors part of HWInfo to be exact

[dull hollow]

thanks

[dull hollow]

i need to undervolt the 7700x to overclock it

also it runs way too hot

[umbral heron]

Hm... it's 105W TDP CPU, shouldn't run that hot
Although yeah, I reused my cooler from 3600X for 7950

[ashen spindle]

you might just want to reseat the cooler

[late grove]

It does run hot due to high heat density and one of the worst designed IHS in recent history.

[ashen spindle]

and for undervolting many zen4 chips can do a like a -20 or -30 CO offset

[late grove]

Remember the whole "95C is fine" AMD marketing? It was there for a reason.

[halcyon moss]

Stock cooler?

[ashen spindle]

though it depends what you look at for temperatures

if you run stock cooler in blender 95C is completely fine

[dull hollow]

my 7700x was running 97C in Apex.... resuing the cooler from a 3700x

[dull hollow]

already did

[late grove]

Pretty sure 7700X does not have a stock cooler.

[ashen spindle]

whats the cooler you're using?

[umbral heron]

Nah, with stock cooler it was getting to scary temperatures

[halcyon moss]

The 3700x Def does (im using it)

[dull hollow]

im just gonna follow this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOYYHNGlLs

daddy optimum

[dull hollow]

its the amd wraith

[late grove]

Do yourself a favor and buy the peerless assasin for 30 bucks.

[late grove]

It is better to lock all your cores to a specific frequency.

idk how far new Ryzens can go, you will have to find that out for yourself.

[ashen spindle]

ah yeah the wraith might not cut it for the 105W baseline

[late grove]

But especially after the recent Intel boosting fiasco you should not trust any boosting algorithms whatsoever.
Considering old Ryzens were also known to cooking themselves.

[dull hollow]

i can drop it by 30c and get the same base clock speeds

ill see if i can get a cooler soon

[late grove]

PBO may introduce instability.

[dull hollow]

👍 will test

after all tuing is all trial and error

[frozen ingot]

so looks like I'll be building a new pc this weekend

[steady sail]

waow finally the peerless assassin's are in Hungary as well

[old marlin]

That sounds involuntarily

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N5MlZg_Cdg imagine a ltt video about 8bitdo

[gusty kiln]

wat da specs

[frozen ingot]

to be fair its not my favourite activity but am looking forward to the performance boost

went for the asrock b650m-hdv/m.2 mobo, ryzen 7600x with a thermalright phantom spirit 120 cooler and 32gb 6000mhz cl30

will be moving over a 4060 and 750w seasonic psu from my current rig

[gusty kiln]

hope the ram is A-Die

[late grove]

What even is in your current rig?

[gusty nexus]

Phantom Spirit enjoyer 👀

[frozen ingot]

b450-f strix gaming, 2700x, 32gb 2666mhz ddr4

[gusty kiln]

7600 will run cooler unless you got a deal on the 7600X

[late grove]

I see. Will be a big boost indeed. Tho keeping everything and putting a 5800X3D in there might have been a more sensible option.

[frozen ingot]

cpu already bought, getting the rest in a couple days

[late grove]

Especially considering that we are approaching the stagnation era.

[frozen ingot]

5800x3d is quite a lot more here

[umbral heron]

That's more of a work rig than gaming one iirc, so 7600X will do nicely

[gusty kiln]

people have been slurping up all the X3D

[frozen ingot]

it'll be a reasonable upgrade for gaming over a 2700x still

[gusty nexus]

It's just the best for gaming

[frozen ingot]

also its not unlikely I'll be upgrading the cpu further down the line

[gusty kiln]

5700X3D is still 200 on amazon

great deal

[umbral heron]

Oh, betcha, jump will be definitely noticeable

[frozen ingot]

I hope I'll enjoy it, heard the mounting is still a bit fiddly

[steady sail]

im so happy that i went with a 5800x3d from a 2600x

[frozen ingot]

I used to have a thermalright ultra-120 extreme back in the day

[gusty nexus]

I don't have a single problem with it 🤷

[frozen ingot]

that one was kind of a hassle to get mounted too but the temps were godtier

[little silo]

I went from 5700G to 5700X3D and it was a mind-blowing difference

[frozen ingot]

the peerless assassin got a bit of flack for being tricky to mount too but then I also don't know what reference the author behind that had

its really good value vs the noctuas or deepcools with similar performance

[steady sail]

btw i do love to get a gpu upgrade but in the meanwhile im working in 3 shifts and every gpu is expensive overall

[gusty nexus]

It was my first time building a computer and it was easy to put the Phantom Spirit so idk 🤷

[old marlin]

If you wanna stay on am4, 5700x3d or bust

Everything else ain't worth it

[umbral heron]

12 days till GPU upgrade

[umbral heron]

Here 5700x3d is half the price of 5800x3d

[frozen ingot]

looking at kingston fury beast 2x16gb 6000mhz cl30

[old marlin]

Same

[frozen ingot]

nah decided to go am5 for better future prospects

[old marlin]

Used to be 30% less, now it's 50

[frozen ingot]

mainly for ram speeds

[old marlin]

Fair

[gusty kiln]

I bought my 5800X3D Day 1

[ashen spindle]

you do start to see more games making use of mroe memoy bandwidth so the jump to am5 will be nice

[steady sail]

the only reason i went with the 5800x3d bc 7000 series prices are pretty high

[frozen ingot]

was considering going for as fast a cpu/ram as I could for am4 but it woulda ended up almost as pricy as just going am5 so

[gusty kiln]

7800X3D is gone from amazon

crazy

[umbral heron]

I wouldn't order 7800X3D specifically from Amazon nowadays
Tons of fakes

[ashen spindle]

I do still have some hope they drop the 9800x3d early and its coming this year, would be nice with the 7800x3d just hopping in price

eh, as long as you dont mind returning it it's fine

and if its from amazon directly and not market it's going to be amd stock

[frozen ingot]

yeah amazon has some really seedy too-good-to-be-true prices on a lot of stuff I find

[gusty kiln]

gotta make a pilgrimage to your microcenter

[frozen ingot]

I'll probably upgrade to an x3d variant in the future

[ashen spindle]

sir you are surrounded by europeans

[frozen ingot]

but this one should last me 2-3 years ez

especially given what am used to now

[steady sail]

i could clean my aio a lil bit better but

[gusty kiln]

kekeke, tend for forget

[frozen ingot]

good to hear

the ol ultra 120 back in the day had to be lowkey wrestled in place

had to push down on the screws with quite a bit of force to reach the threads

[solemn marsh]

does anyone have recommendations for a processor to pair with a 4070 super? i'm currently on a 10900kf which looks to be like a slight bottleneck on my system, and i've been wanting to upgrade to something ddr5 compatible soon anyway

[umbral heron]

Preferably 7800X3D, that's go-to CPU nowadays

Or wait for 9800X3D

[ashen spindle]

yeah pretty much, though the price is a bit up at the moment so might want to wait for that to come down or perhaps a 9800x3d to drop

[solemn marsh]

yeah im still saving up right now anyway, plus my cat has some vet bills which need to come first 😔

[ashen spindle]

what country

[solemn marsh]

us

so u know they're stupid expensive

[ashen spindle]

nah then you can maybe get a good deal at a microcenter like this one

[solemn marsh]

i'd need a new motherboard as well since my current one is out of date, so it'll be a little while

i think i'll just get a new case and do a new build at that point as well

[ashen spindle]

cooler board and ram would be like 250-300$ so whatever you can find as a price for a 7800x3d would be a rough estimate for what you can look for

[solemn marsh]

got it thanks, i'll keep my eyes out especially for holiday sales and stuff like that

[ashen spindle]

case and psu are usuallly good to keep unless you want to sell it and get a complete new one, then it might be easier to not scrap parts

[solemn marsh]

oh yeah my case is perfectly functional i just want a different aesthetic so i can actually show it off instead of hiding it under my desk lol

[steady sail]

LUL

actually not bad after a few match in mw23 on 1440p

[little silo]

nice temps

after a lot of games of the finals

[steady sail]

my gpu is chillin overall

[bright briar]

looking for advice, Im doing a fresh all white build because im giving my current build to my little cousin. I have Mobo: msi mag b550 tomahawk max wifi, Cpu : ryzen 7 5800x, 32 gb ram corsair vengeance pro sl 3600 mhz DDR4, power supply : corsair rm850x 850w 80 plus gold, Gpu : asus rog strix 3080 12 gb.

i was thinking of going for either amd gpu or msi 4070 or 4080

or do you think i should wait for the 5000's gpu

[ashen spindle]

depends on if you want to upgrade or not

50 series likely isnt coming this year

[bright briar]

i want to upgrade

[gusty kiln]

what games does he play?

oh wait

what is your current

[bright briar]

usually triple AAA games and fps

[ashen spindle]

wait so all the items just go to your brother and you make a fully new build?

like the stuff you listed does that all go away or is that parts you want to use

[bright briar]

i do alot of competitive gaming

[bright briar]

thats the build i have now and giving that pc to my little cousin

[gusty kiln]

wana max out your CPU then

[bright briar]

is it true with powerful gpus you end up getting coil whine? Or was i unlucky with my card

[ashen spindle]

it depends

[umbral heron]

4070S or 4080, from AMD... 7900XT or 7900GRE
For competitive x3d chip would be nice

[bright briar]

ryzen 9 then?

[gusty kiln]

it depends on the card power design

[umbral heron]

Nononono - 7800X3D, don't go for 7900/7950

[bright briar]

im trying to stick to all white parts but if some parts are different colour it is what it is

[gusty kiln]

7800X3D is ideal

[bright briar]

so basically get the 3d version of the current cpu i have

[ashen spindle]

you can get unlucky but it also changes the higher your fps go the more likely you are to hear coil whine

I think the easiest is you make a list on pcpartpicker with what you think you would want and post it here so we can give you feedback

[umbral heron]

Yeah
7900X3D is weaker than 7800X3D in games, and with 7950X3D you'd have to play around with CPPC for the same performance

[gusty kiln]

just look up reviews for the aib card

[bright briar]

i see i see, the 3080 coil whine isnt that bad but i never had a problem with my 3060 so i guess im doomed to have coil whine

[bright briar]

bet i'll do this

[ashen spindle]

nah it really depends, i dont have any on my 4090 unless I hit like 500fps in a menu

[bright briar]

okok writing this down

i was thinking of getting a 1440p monitor with 240hz

[umbral heron]

OLED? IPS?

[bright briar]

ips is better no?

[steady sail]

no

[umbral heron]

OLED's better, IPS' cheaper

[bright briar]

aaahh okay i'll go for oled

[gusty kiln]

IPS does handle VRR way better

[bright briar]

any brand for oled or whats the recommended brand?

[astral haven]

my card is completely immune to coil whine, but thats cause it has a 5 pound waterblock

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah? time to test a 15k fps scenario

[umbral heron]

PG27AQDM, Odyssey G6, AW2725DF...

[astral haven]

osu time

[bright briar]

ty ty

[late grove]

What OLED are you looking for?

what res and refreshrate

[bright briar]

i really appreciate ya'll advice and tips

[bright briar]

1440p 240hz

[late grove]

There your only option is PG27AQDMG as it's the only glossy OLED with those specs.

Tho I believe we now have downgraded QD OLEDs at 1440p 240hz too...

Which aren't much cheaper than the 360hz versions.

[bright briar]

ahh i see

so for power supply 850w gold is still good? or good higher

[astral haven]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=344001440,256001440&D=240000,540000&P=7,9

[late grove]

850W is enough for everything

(asuming you aren't building an HEDT system)

[bright briar]

alr ty

since i dont know amd gpus which one is the better performance 7900xt or 7900gre?

[late grove]

7900XT is faster

[bright briar]

ty for this

[late grove]

Careful with going AMD tho. Be prepared to fight their drivers.

[umbral heron]

Not anymore for RDNA3

[steady sail]

Not a single problem for me :3

[bright briar]

is upgrading to ddr5 worth it or stay with ddr4?

[astral haven]

no choice on amd

[umbral heron]

With 7xxx you'll be going with DDR5 regardless

[bright briar]

okok

[ashen spindle]

techpowerup is a good site to have a rough overview, it's not always accurate but within a vendor it will roughly show you where the cards place

[spare wedge]

ddr5 is cheap anyways

[umbral heron]

Nowadays yeah, DDR5 is nice

[distant tapir]

64 or 32 GB ram guys? If 32 then faster ofc.

[spare wedge]

Wat

[astral haven]

192gb ofc

[umbral heron]

If you have use for 64G then go for 64

[spare wedge]

1TB of ram

[ashen spindle]

48gb (not a joke)

[umbral heron]

2x24G would work well too, yeah

[distant tapir]

Is that a common size?

[astral haven]

😬 can the amd imc handle that properly yet?

[ashen spindle]

2x24g is often same price and trains better on many boards seemingly

[astral haven]

yea

but for a while there it was janky on ryzen

[ashen spindle]

it's been for a few months on ddr5 now yea

[umbral heron]

Yeah, but update UEFI

[distant tapir]

Oh. Maybe I'll consider 48 then.

[ashen spindle]

it's easier on the mem controller, it just needed the first update

[astral haven]

i still heard folks whining on 1.2.0.1?

[ashen spindle]

which should give the added benefit if MCR fails your boot times are still fast

[umbral heron]

I'm kinda sad there's no more of my kit available around here
I really wanted to do 192G meme

[late grove]

Yes still for RDNA 3. UE3 performance still not fixed, DXVK still unusable... and when installing drivers for my RX 7900XT the driver literally put my PC into a boot loop. I had to take out my SSD and DDU it from another PC.
I swear I am not making this up.

[ashen spindle]

idk folks whine about anything, mine and the other systems I put 2x24g in worked smooth as butter

[astral haven]

aight
192gb is definetly cooked tho, but maybe its a 48g stick problem

[ashen spindle]

yes and my 4090 regularly needs reboots because the display engine is shit can we please stop making recommendations on your single experience in either direction

[spare wedge]

Zen 4 allows more than 128gb?

[ashen spindle]

I mean thats 4 sticks being the issue not the odd memory

[astral haven]

4 sticks dual rank on top of that

[umbral heron]

Yeah, since some UEFI update, I don't recall which one

[late grove]

I had years of experience with Radeon because the cards were cheaper and I was a poor kid. If it was a one off thing I would not have complained.

[astral haven]

correct, 4 sticks, up to 48gb per stick, soon 64 (but not yet)

[ashen spindle]

even 256 is ready on the right boards

[umbral heron]

2x48G work great, I'm running that currently, for 4x48G afaik you have to dive in in manual timings

[astral haven]

yea but the pattern of radeon having uncooked drivers appears to have stopped with rdna2

[astral haven]

wait what dies can make 64GB sticks?

[ashen spindle]

rdna3 had issues on launch and past launch week it was basically just idle the rest is more or less the same on either gpu vendor now

[spare wedge]

rdna3 when reset bug

[ashen spindle]

I dont know if the kits are out yet but msi made both intel and amd boards ready with whatever test kits they had

[late grove]

I heard the same shit with rdna 1 and vega. I think at this point they will never truly match Nvidia.

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-teases-256gb-memory-support-on-amd-x670-motherboard

rdna1 literally has defective hardware that needed later revisions to fix, nobody said drivers are fine with that lol

[umbral heron]

256G would fry poor B650 I guess

[astral haven]

well thats not true, there were folks who even said v2 was fine lel

[ashen spindle]

well, allegedly every AM5 board works

including A620

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

(from msi that is)