🔌│tech

[quaint dew]

but if you turn up the volume to match the treble how it was before its percieved as more bass

[umbral heron]

Boi
Have you ever heard about equalizers?

[fair gull]

im almost 100% sure it will not boost any frequency

[old marlin]

affects different frequencies in a different way

[umbral heron]

And if you prefer bassy headphones... just get bassy headphones

[quaint dew]

i mean literally every review says this

[old marlin]

so it takes out more the higher the frequency is and less the lower the frequency is

[quaint dew]

ye

[fair gull]

i cant see how putting a resistor or 2 between 2 cables affects frequencies differently

[old marlin]

I mean it is essentially just very slightly muffling the sound

[magic minnow]

And a physical equalizer, none of those programs

[old marlin]

nah software ones are good

if done right

[digital cliff]

due to how impedance matching and damping factor works

[old marlin]

aka parametric

[magic minnow]

I want this one for my stack

Just to be snobby

[old marlin]

you could get similar results by replacing the physical filter for example

[digital cliff]

it's a complex thing that I don't know much of anything about but you can look it up

[old marlin]

but would be a lot harder to do so accurately

[old marlin]

don't think that is as good as a parametric EQ

[magic minnow]

This is a lower end one for sure

[digital cliff]

a software one is infinitely adjustable and perfect whereas the hardware ones are like, 6 knobs for 500€ yeehaw

[old marlin]

I mean the knob count is not the issue, but it isn't parametric, which limits it a LOT

https://www.thomann.de/de/midas_parametric_equaliser_512_v2.htm

[magic minnow]

Ohhhh

[old marlin]

idk how good this is, but that IS parametric at least

but also eurorack

[magic minnow]

Ohhh that looks cool

I usually just mess around with the equalizer in MusicBee

[old marlin]

just get equalizer apo

not some graphic EQ bs

[magic minnow]

I'll check some out on my days off

[final flame]

effects the frequency response curve of the headphones depending on the impedance curve
if it's fully linear, yes it will only decrease volume but not all headphones are perfectly linear impedance wise
for example the focal clear

that red line will be what is boosted

high impedance sources such as tube amplifiers also give this similar effect

[graceful harness]

Finally shitseries released their version of snap tap/SOCD called rapid tap, but they made it very weird to get it

[devout citrus]

morning folks ❤️

[graceful harness]

You need to go into their beta firmware thing, which is new

[graceful harness]

Morning 😊👍

[vagrant pagoda]

@astral haven what's more likely CPU or mobo failure? I'm down a dimm slot too, in addition to the riser not working

Well dimm channel

Never seen such an issue with am4

[astral haven]

Mobo, but it also depends on what sort of sa you were running

SOC voltage then

[vagrant pagoda]

Had no storms yesterday so not lightning, plus I have good ups

1.05

I tried 1.10 and didn't help at all

Well I didn't test the riser

But it won't run anything on the second channel, even stock volts and a 2800 mhz oe dimm

Gotta dig out my 5600x and swap it in

[old marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXF_lVwA8A4

that is actually pretty cool

as long as the RP2350 will stay as cheap as the rpi2040

[umbral heron]

Ah bummer, only ARM version available here

Or is it both RISC-V and ARM in one chip?

[old marlin]

it's both apparently

[umbral heron]

Ah, interesting

Chip can have 2 CCXs on it, be it both ARM, both RISC-V or one of each, which is the default version of RP2350A

But only cores of one architecture can be enabled at a time

There's also RP2350B, which has 48 GPIO instead of 30, and 8 ADC pins instead of 4, whereas RP2350A has the same pinout as RP2040

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1821576308322930892?s=46

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

If you own one of the latest Intel desktop CPUs it's time to update your BIOS immediately. Asus and MSI have both started rolling out BIOS updates with Intel's new microcode that addresses crashing CPUs. Full details below 👇 https://t.co/vZ5tfcBlDe

Twitter · Aug 8, 2024, 3:56 PM

[ashen spindle]

notice how it says "addresses crashing" not fixes crashing

[reef patrol]

Don't want to overpromise 😄

[ashen spindle]

well yeah since we still dont know what the issue really is

[reef patrol]

The microcode deploys nanites that will fix the solder and silicon substructure in your CPU

[rough osprey]

damn

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254

[vagrant pagoda]

How is performance effected?

[ashen spindle]

hopefully the risc pi isn't affected this https://www.phoronix.com/news/GhostWrite-Vulnerability-RISC-V

[old marlin]

[ashen spindle]

dont think it uses that core but funny timing

[old marlin]

not like it matters at all for a small MCU thing

doesn't even run a real OS

[supple nest]

It's oxidization isn't it

[ashen spindle]

no

[supple nest]

So Intel cpus just got like 4 things wrong with them at once

Nice

[ashen spindle]

oxidation might not be anything that changes a single thing for consumers so it literally doesnt matter

[fickle ore]

LOL every patch note since ever says "adressed" rather than "fixed" 😛

It's corpo PR

[sudden imp]

Words have meaning and in this case means no promises

[ashen spindle]

I know it’s always addressed but in this case they also addressed customers and basically said three got no idea still so it’s just funny

[fickle ore]

made my gf buy intel today

[astral haven]

catching a falling knife?

[alpine patio]

you what?

making another catch a falling knife

good luck man

[astral haven]

thing is tho, how much worse can the news be for intel stock

the dividend is already gone, their competitors products are already popping, and they have big issues in the news

[alpine patio]

its definetly still a bad choice

considering the volitility rn

ok it depends on how much she bought

[fickle ore]

dw she put about the same onto world index

[alpine patio]

ngl i do think etfs are no longer what it was

hard to explain but etfs used to be a small % copying an efficient market right

[fickle ore]

another mans falling knife is another mans averaging down. I see a lot potential tehre

[alpine patio]

now etfs are much more popular and they are just net buying everything

so good luck

shit can turn fast

[alpine patio]

it should be fine

as long as its disposable income

[fickle ore]

Efficient market theory has been disproven. Actually Ben Felix went over this on a video whil ago. Yeah inflows to ETFs are at record highs but they're not at that high level yet. Forgot the exact % of. At the same time when people just average into index it allows more individual stocks to be mispriced by the market. More to gain and to lose.

[alpine patio]

ya ikik

not too high yet

so be aware of when to get out

[astral haven]

im gonna stick to my treasury bonds thank you lel

[fickle ore]

Noo

Are you buffet

[alpine patio]

but there is definetly more to lose than to gain

also consider the rising avg age

etfs might become net sellers in the future

so just keep check on the market

[fickle ore]

Yeah I hope so. There's def risk of total failure if fab side fails but 🙏

[astral haven]

these are bond rates we havent seen since 2006, gimme

[fickle ore]

What am I missing why it isn't 5%?

[alpine patio]

ngl these bond rates are shit

[astral haven]

this is the boost on top of inflation that the gov is giving

[fickle ore]

Buffet has like 270B in 5% T-bonds kekw

[unkempt lake]

@balmy vector is now literally a mango

[fickle ore]

Ah

[unkempt lake]

orange boy

[alpine patio]

ah make sens

[balmy vector]

I am now one with myself

[unkempt lake]

mango colored mango

my favorite

[fickle ore]

In EU I can prob buy some shitty ECB bond that yields 1.25 %

[astral haven]

if inflation drops to 0 tomorrow, i still get this for the next 50? years i forget how long im able to keep these

heres how much they are earning rn

[fickle ore]

Yeah and the price of the bond will go up should you choose to sell. Prob 5/10/30 year to mature

[astral haven]

nop, bond is a special bond that is quite limited

unsellable until maturity, but keeps growing after maturity

[fickle ore]

Never heard of those

[astral haven]

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/savings-bonds/i-bonds/i-bonds-interest-rates/

[fickle ore]

Ah I-bonds we dont have those and honestly I'm noob about bonds bc EU sucks for them. In the last decade you could buy bonds that yield -0.2 %

worth

[astral haven]

stonks

[alpine patio]

lmao we kinda have automated bonds in my country

but we can only take the money out after retirement

[astral haven]

thats an account not a bond?

[alpine patio]

its complicated

[fickle ore]

Prob some shitty retirement account

scammed

[alpine patio]

but we get 5% interest

[fickle ore]

[alpine patio]

and we can use the money to buy houses, invest and other stuff

bonds are one of them

[fickle ore]

doesnt sound bad nglk

[astral haven]

yea so as i said its an account that you were talking about

[alpine patio]

ya and account that we can automatically invest with

medical bills also i think

also ur employers have to contribute extra to that account

17% of your normal salary

[fickle ore]

PM your country I will come

[alpine patio]

kekw

[snow delta]

q

[fickle ore]

I asked my boss about stock based compensation and she didnt understand what it is

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[alpine patio]

our country is kinda a dictatorship

a successful 1st world dictatorship lmao

[fickle ore]

O.O

[astral haven]

im pretty sure thats a definitional contradiction

[alpine patio]

funnily enuf it isnt

the one party rule just works here idk

[fickle ore]

Turkey?

[alpine patio]

singapore

[fickle ore]

Oh I envy

Oh shiiet Samsung Smart Ring uses nRF5340

Finally (hopefully) some good volume for Nordic

Same as Oura

[astral haven]

you still pick who you elect
and just because you chose not to elect multiple parties doesnt mean your country is a dictatorship

[alpine patio]

ya lmao

but usually PAP wins 60% to 70% of the votes

[astral haven]

its hard to tell between corrupt elections and free and fair ones because the results say nothing

[alpine patio]

60% is actually considered a failure for them

its a quite strict government

but one of the least corrupt i think

like how selling drugs is an immediate death sentance

[astral haven]

yep
if the people actually ran that vote, then sure whatever
the problem is if actually 20% voted for them and they still ended up winning by 20%

[alpine patio]

ya lmao

but honestly

ill take anything over the usa's

[astral haven]

remember you can have an authoritarian that isnt running a dictatorship

its just never gonna happen

[alpine patio]

ya

[astral haven]

while our system is schitzo, its extremely effective

[alpine patio]

they do make it harder for other parties

but honestly honestly

its just easier this way

plus every party has the same goal anyway

[woven roost]

what the yap

[steady sail]

I mean my main reason of not going 240hz or above is that my gpu is not capable of doing it

[quartz token]

@magic minnow My samsung has pixel shifting continuesly. So it shifts a few pixels every several seconds to prevent burn-in. First I was a bit like ehhh. But kinda got used to it.

[balmy vector]

I personally don’t use pixel shift

[quartz token]

But yeah, all the browsers and UI stuff I just put it on pure black so the pixels don't have to do anything.

[balmy vector]

But for editing and such i can see why

[umbral heron]

Ae? 6700XT handles 240Hz in a lot of games with no problems

[steep creek]

i still need to check my monitor runtime hours to see if oled is a good buy or not for me

[steady sail]

I mean in cs and valo for sure but not in newer cods

[quartz token]

Honestly. OLED. Even though it lasts a shorter potentially. The pleasure I've had with gaming and just the overall picture quality has been so remarkable compared to my IPS I used to have.

Also going from 16:9 to 21:9 also helps with the experience heh.

[umbral heron]

Which card can handle 240Hz in newer CoDs?

[steady sail]

Like without AFMF i cant even get 100fps in MW23 on low 💀

[solemn remnant]

same experience here, though I'm still at 16:9

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-not-for-me-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-not-me-dont-count-on-me-gif-23378122

IPS all the way

[steady sail]

In mw19 i was able to get that and in cold war but after wards uhm no xdd

[sudden imp]

Doesn't WOLED panels last so much longer now?

[magic minnow]

Yeah it's fine since it's a benefit in the long run I've had the message pop up in the middle of hunt showdown for me before on the Alienware lol

[steady sail]

The cheapest oled panel in Hungary is 760€

[solemn remnant]

though I still use the my old monitor for dc etc

[sharp badger]

OLED would be nice but µLED would probably be endgame but prices will be high

[umbral heron]

[steady sail]

Im on windows for now but i might switch over to Plasma in the future

[quartz token]

Yeah they definitely upped their game.

[steady sail]

Tho for now i want a new gpu and a new monitor lol

Tho i might skip monitor

[quartz token]

I bought my OLED with my organs. It was like 1300. 😭

[umbral heron]

Yeah, I'm looking for new GPU too
Although I have to still get expansion to HoMM3 board game and keycaps for 80HE

[steady sail]

I feel u LOL

[sudden imp]

I have alot of faith in OLED Panels currently. My iPhone uses I believe an LG panel and its really nice been atleast 2~ years with it.

[quartz token]

Yeah hope it gets cheaper soon enough.

[steady sail]

I found some 7900 gre for good price and i was looking at those

[sudden imp]

and prices are going down alot for them

[quartz token]

LG has the best panels overall I believe yeah.

[sudden imp]

I saw an asus panel going for 600~ at microcenter

[quartz token]

damnnn

[umbral heron]

I'm eyeing at 7900XTX but I'd have to get a new PSU with it too

And another kit of RAM for the memes

[steady sail]

I got a 850w psu for a reason it was a great upgrade from a cooler master elite v3 bomb

[umbral heron]

I have 700W one I believe

[quartz token]

Does the 7900XTX use the 12 pin connector or nah?

[steady sail]

Nah

[umbral heron]

Nope, 3x8pin

[sudden imp]

$699

[magic minnow]

I got this one Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1JKK1YZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[sudden imp]

26.5 inches

[magic minnow]

One of the capacitors exploded and they sent me a new one

[steady sail]

Still on the old one tho there is rumors that next gen amd gpu’s are gonna use 12pin’s

[balmy vector]

12vhpwr ive adapted to

[umbral heron]

We should stay at 8-pins to be honest

3x8-pin can provide 2x150+75 = 525W, that's more than enough for now

[sudden imp]

Just directly plug your gpu into the outlet no more need for silly connectors

[steady sail]

Or just put on high-end cards

[sharp badger]

But but aesthetics!!! 😱😆

[balmy vector]

Definitely hate having the 12vhpwr not able to bend to the degree 8pins can

[umbral heron]

Would be way better too if 12VHPWR had 5 +12V lines and 7 GND lines, not 6 of both

[steady sail]

I mean i dont have the money to get a 4090 anyway

[magic minnow]

Prices are too high anyways to get one right now

The one I got is like 400 more than what I paid

[quartz token]

That's wild. I was too quick to jump on the OLED train when it was just new lmao.

[steady sail]

I dont even need a 4090 anyway

[magic minnow]

But Minecraft ray tracing???!!!

[steady sail]

I dont care about ray tracing

[quartz token]

My samsung is 700 rn as well lol

[sudden imp]

dayum

[quartz token]

500 euro down from 1300 a year ago

[steady sail]

It’s pointless while the top card is dying on it

[magic minnow]

I don't even look at the price of the monitors I bought, cause of how much cheaper they are right now, it hurts

[sudden imp]

anything above $900 when it comes to pc consumer tech is just absurd to me

[quartz token]

I was still living at my parents place while working full time. So I was like... ehhhh.. the heck with it 😂

[sharp badger]

You need it for Solitaire 9000fps+ lol

[magic minnow]

I feel like the GPU is always justified. I was running a 1080ti for like 4-5 years before I upgraded to a 4090

[sudden imp]

super fair ngl

[balmy vector]

Huuuge upgrade in that regard

[steady sail]

The cheapest 4090 in Hungary is 1955€

[magic minnow]

Honestly I was ready to "experience" Starfield and built a completely new rig for it. Then I was sad

[quartz token]

Remember my 3080 in corona times being 2500 once lmao

[unkempt lake]

My psu is complete overkill for my 7800x3d:7900xtx system but i got it for so cheap i was like why not. Corsair HX1500i for 200canadian brand new in box on clearance (iust cuz it didn't have the 12vhpwr in it's literally the same just with 3x8 pin instead)

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-feel-i-know-that-feel-feel-with-it-hugs-gif-5686290

[sudden imp]

3070 being atleast 800

[sharp badger]

The 34" G8 OLED is €779 here

[umbral heron]

Yeah, I want to pay... half that

[quartz token]

Believe that hit even like 1300 here

[unkempt lake]

Considering its normal retail price was 500canadian

I didn't mind

[steady sail]

1300€ here

[sudden imp]

[sharp badger]

Cheapest 4090 is still at €1799 (GameRock)

[magic minnow]

Yeah I got my 4090 for like 1,800$ USD which I think is around 1,400€ according to Google

[umbral heron]

Ah wait, 200CAD is pretty good for it, yeah
It's 1500zł/350€ here, no way I'm getting it for that much

[quartz token]

3070

[unkempt lake]

Yep

Only was worth it cuz of the price xD

Coulda went by with something way cheaper

[steady sail]

Oh wait its the 32” that is 1300€ the 34” is 901€

[unkempt lake]

If we were talking reg price

But the discount was just too good not to take it

[umbral heron]

So new GPU, PSU and RAM kit
I want to see Zen 4 eating through that 192GB

[unkempt lake]

10 year warranty too

[sudden imp]

that is actually terrible

[unkempt lake]

I had a 860w hooked up to my 7900xtx before and it worked fine... ish its from like 2014 and i got a current shutdown once, nowadays my old ax860 lives in nico's rig

Like i ran it for months without any issues but tripped ocp while playing dead island 2 (i was also running my heavily oced 9700k at the time so...)

With a more power efficient chip i could have probably been fine

[pale sigil]

I overpaid for mine but not remotely as bad as Rona prices thankfully

[unkempt lake]

But that was like months ago and nico's rig needed a psu upgrade to have my 2080 in so it all worked out

[unkempt lake]

I just avoided buying tech entirely during corona cuz my setup was from like 2018ish so i was still fine lol

[steady sail]

I mean i would choose a 4080 super over a 4090 any day

[balmy vector]

Im chilling with my 4080 at this point

[umbral heron]

Hmmm... I could barely squeeze into 700W

[magic minnow]

But you'll miss out on the 5% fps gains?!

[solemn remnant]

be aware that not all 700w psu's output that much in reality

[fair gull]

keep in mind PSUs arent 100% efficient id choose one size up

[steady sail]

On 1080p

[unkempt lake]

The 4090 is cool but i just don't get paying that much for one parts. My 1200cad 7900xtx already made me feel like i was being bled dry even tho it was a great deal

I remember 80 class cards costing 999 cad

I miss that

[umbral heron]

Never said it was a good idea

[magic minnow]

Lol always afford what you can imo. I did splurge really hard

[steady sail]

I gonna choose a 7900 gre anyway

[magic minnow]

7950X3D with the 4090 Suprim X

[umbral heron]

850~1000W seems like good pick

[unkempt lake]

Anything over 1000 is a waste of money unless you find a deal like i did

[umbral heron]

Ayy, fellow 7950X3D enjoyer 🤝

[balmy vector]

true gaming

[magic minnow]

I only play games so it's probably wasted on me lol

[steady sail]

Im gonna stay with the 5800x3d for a few more years before upgrading it

[gusty kiln]

5800x3d is going to be like the 2600K

[umbral heron]

Slaps CPU
This bad boy can run so many VMs at once

[steady sail]

I mean there is no reason for a long time

[sudden imp]

Is the 7900X3D better than the 7800X3D in gaming or is it only marginal?

[steady sail]

Worse

[magic minnow]

Sometimes I do get a little crazy and run Darktide while running MuseDash in the background

[gusty kiln]

Slightly worst

[sharp badger]

7800X3D would be go to for gaming

[fair gull]

technically better but the 7800x3d gets there without the work

[gusty kiln]

But it's still decent compared to the test of 7000

[balmy vector]

ill be running so many emulators

[sudden imp]

Yikes so why do people go for the anything above the 7800x3d

[steady sail]

Thats true

[umbral heron]

For gaming 7800X3D > 7900X3D and ~= 7950X3D if you set CPU affinity to CCD0, the one with more L3 cache

[umbral heron]

It's more of a workstation stuff than gaming for me

[fair gull]

also some people do the same as for keyboards and mice polling.... higher number = better obviously

[steady sail]

I could see 2k polling worth on mouse but anything higher not really

[fair gull]

8khz seems to be actually useful on mice as you get more data points

so technically better tracking in games

[steep creek]

obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRI94x5MEMM

[steady sail]

Yeah thats true but i have to sell my organs for a pc

Its just me tho

[lyric hatch]

Yeah it's noticeable more so on higher refresh rate displays and it only works on a very limited amount of games

[fair gull]

for now

in the future more games will handle it well and well PCs will ofc improve

[lyric hatch]

Yeah and the other downside is it destroys battery life

[fair gull]

ok yeah now you lost me

[still loom]

What did I just listen to?

[magic minnow]

[lyric hatch]

I have a 4k dongle but use my mouse in 1k for battery life

[fair gull]

yeah i dont understand

[still loom]

higher roll rate = more battery drain on wireless mouse mr tony 😂 nothing related to performance tho lol

[fair gull]

i dont get it

[still loom]

or just use an op1 8k

[fair gull]

now that i understand

[lyric hatch]

Would like to get one but would have to buy through a proxy since they don't ship to nz

[steady sail]

LUL

[magic minnow]

Mouse doesn't have a setting to only turn on 4K or 8K only when gaming?

[lyric hatch]

Not my mouse no

[magic minnow]

Ah v.v ok ok

[steady sail]

I never owned a mouse that has more than 1k polling

[lyric hatch]

It's alright you're not missing much

[fair gull]

im almost certain you can prob compete in pro league with just 1k polling on mouse and kbd

[magic minnow]

I love when this gets brought up in general lol some of the takes people have

[balmy vector]

its funny

[magic minnow]

The placebo effect

[balmy vector]

shape is always king 💪

[fair gull]

i mean it makes a difference

in some eprcentage of cases

where the case is an eventuallity

that may or may not happen

id argue its the same after some point of refresh rate

[young granite]

Hey guys, I just spilled some water w a magnesium tablet onto my wooting. Got the keycaps out and dried them (weren't that soaked actually). Didnt take the PCBA off tho. Do I need to worry abt the spillage or do i need to take the PCBA off also to see if it caused any damage?

[magic minnow]

I'd let everything dry and take it apart

[lyric hatch]

#1271099888696033300 message

Untamed's guide on everything to do when you spill something on your keyboard

[ashen spindle]

https://x.com/ryanshrout/status/1821316021736612201 fun numbers to look at especially for servers that's massive

Ryan Shrout (@ryanshrout) on X

AMD shared Mercury Research market share numbers for its CPU product segments with the media today and the results are really interesting across all segments. Let's take a quick look.

I've charted the most recent Q2'24 results, as well as Q2'23 and added in Q1 from 2019 as it

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 10:42 PM

[steep creek]

aha that’s nice

[wheat plume]

Hmm...... YouTube got a problem xd

[ashen spindle]

just yours

[charred forge]

stock, on intel safety limits with enforce limits

[ashen spindle]

well now to hope it didnt already degrade your chip and this fixes it

[unkempt lake]

as usual

[wheat plume]

TIL you can install custom launchers on iPhones????

Idk how else they could be doing this
Unless it's custom widgets???
Can you have those?

[astral haven]

its an app, and you dont go to it when you swipe using the home button

[steep creek]

yeah launchers aren’t a thing on ios

[astral haven]

actually that could be widgets

the home bar cant be completely removed, but with no apps in it on a black background its probably invisible

either way its a pain, you either have to spend a bunch of time to switch back and forth or its just an app and accidentally swiping the home button dismisses it

[pastel nacelle]

i change the windows icon on startup

i wish i could change my bios start up logo like i could on older motherboards

this has been muh logo for years

[iron wave]

The new Pi chip is crazy: https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/rp2350/

[ashen spindle]

have you seen the naming scheme though

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/X-vR4NvRYEU3sZFGVEukzYBcIrJPnJrDTDhgFMbHRKk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/GUeCEq9aAAAuE5H.jpg%3Alarge?format=webp&width=912&height=692

[iron wave]

Doesn't that match the other one?

2040, different CPU and double the memory matches.

[ashen spindle]

maybe, I just didnt see it before then

but like, the type of core could be different on the same number? whats the point then lol

[iron wave]

I'm pretty sure it's the same.

[ashen spindle]

also having a name that you get by using log (component) is very funny to me

[iron wave]

It has the Cortex and the Hazard cores on the same chip.

ARM and RISC-V.

You get to pick which pair you want to use and it sounds like you might be able to abuse it for one of each?

https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/microcontrollers/silicon.html#architecture-switching

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah its an otherwise neat product I just think the naming pattern makes little sense

[iron wave]

I think they have another chip with a different CPU in slot 2.

Or 1?

But both names have a 3 so it works.

I can't wait for a RV64 SBC from them.

[north tide]

The wattage that they give you is output, not input

so a 700w, 90% efficient PSU would output 700w continuous but draw 778w from the wall

[sudden imp]

More = better

[magic parcel]

Thats my pure performance, no rgb, black pc build for sub 1200€ lmk what yall think

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R3ZDt7

[wild shoal]

good

[magic parcel]

Coazy just wanna lyk

I fw you heavy

Mf what

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-freak-ass-freak-ass-cmon-gif-9422505402862248782

[magic parcel]

I will pray everyday from now on that your pc just blows up in your face while you try to rankup in any game

Damn

Das

Sad i guess

[still loom]

looks good 🙂

[magic parcel]

Stanks yu alan 🙏

Idk

Damn

?

[magic parcel]

@craggy bough deleting messages corny ngl

[potent bear]

got banned 🥺

[jaunty rose]

Deserved

Hope that kid doesn’t come back

Annoying as hell

[potent bear]

frfr ong

hate that guy

[still loom]

😂

[potent bear]

i think its like his 4th ban

crazy work

[still loom]

Bro has discord account creation on speed dial

At least you chose a better character this time

[potent bear]

wdym

[jaunty rose]

Nah aint no fuckin way

[potent bear]

this is my first time

[still loom]

welcome

i mean... what?

[potent bear]

see it says "im new here"

[potent bear]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-gojo-discord-gif-8659389586165116291

[jaunty rose]

This guy needs to get ip banned

[potent bear]

probably am

i mean whaaat

[still loom]

Eh, just better to ignore and let mods deal with it whenever 😂

[jaunty rose]

Yeah

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/葬送的芙莉蓮-sousou-no-frieren-fern-費倫-肥倫-gif-4201572790560447616

[jaunty rose]

Waiting for this guy to say stupid things again so I can report him

[potent bear]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-meme-gif-7049869581778885102

my dad owns wooting

im going to get you banned

[jaunty rose]

I sure would love to have a talk with Calder

[potent bear]

erm, please refer to him as "daddy" 😤

[hasty thunder]

[strange quest]

idk if this fits the channel but PLEASE be wary of razer, they have terrible customer support

if you want to read about my experience, it's really long, but i feel like i need to spread this information since they're such a famous & reputable brand https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/1enqvdj/razercare_is_a_scam_worst_customer_support_ever/

[potent bear]

you got a wooting?

[strange quest]

yea i pre ordered the 80he

[potent bear]

nvm

[north tide]

famous yes, reputable no

[strange quest]

okay that's a fair correction

lmfao

[north tide]

sorry to hear that you got screwed by this but it is not new 😄

[strange quest]

yeah i wish i knew before buying from them but i never heard anything bad

[north tide]

to be honest most customer support is pretty bad

but yeah they are bad bad

[strange quest]

bunch of creators i watch partner/partnered with razer & i have heard so many good things about the quality of their products

but

products v customer support are different

[north tide]

noctua, arctic and wooting are good

[strange quest]

whatever. a year ago, i swore off ever giving them more money & have been warning everyone i know to stay away whenever computer brands come up

i have a keychron kb rn and logitech mouse

terrified about the logitech "forever mouse" shit but i can't get rid of my precious g502

[north tide]

that was just some executive larping

[strange quest]

that's what i'd hope

[north tide]

but i can confirm personally that logitech has support and shipping as bad as razer 😛

[strange quest]

but people are crazy, you saw what unity did last year

[north tide]

yeah

[strange quest]

i've never had to deal with logitech support ig

[north tide]

it helps to have some big consumer protection laws to cite (eu)

[strange quest]

i hate how scamming is barely prosecuted because of the hoops they make you go through to get to that point

[pastel nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/quby-high-five-wave-pentol-qubysani-gif-19935273

[unkempt lake]

Wooting is good but incredibly slow

They did fix the issue i had tho

Better than the average i guess?

I mean nowadays you get lucky to have issues resolved with most companies

Hell look at asus and their rma disaster

Also i saw a wild @umbral heron appear

Hi calllll

i saw you the typity type

[umbral heron]

Morning

[unkempt lake]

you can't hide from me

no one can

[umbral heron]

I was plugging in the keyboard into work laptop

[unkempt lake]

how dare you not plug it in FASTER

[umbral heron]

Because I'm still half asleep

[unkempt lake]

caffeine

machine

[umbral heron]

My tummy doesn't like coffee ;-;

[unkempt lake]

Sad

[reef patrol]

Howso? In the EU you deal with the seller, not the manufacturer.

[old marlin]

If the product has extended warranty or they do a recall you typically deal with the manufacturer

[reef patrol]

Sure. But none of that has anything to do with "big consumer protection laws (EU)"

[thick elk]

Logitech in this case also has it's own store, makes sense to harmonize support for both.
EU laws do very much apply to them as a seller though.

Have not really followed all of this convo though

[reef patrol]

Oh they do?

[thick elk]

Even ordered there once, a long time ago. Hardest newsletter to get rid off.

[magic parcel]

Was wacky ash. No suprise that nobody aswered his messages

[slow trench]

is the lekker v2 switches "out" yet? any review on them? i really enjoy the Gateron jade switches, and since i prolly will end up getting the 80he anyhow, im trying to decide more Jade or lekker v2 45

[reef patrol]

Not yet

[slow trench]

ok 🙂

[dapper laurel]

Hey i was just wondering, but is it worth it to hot swap the wooting 60he stock switches

[balmy vector]

If you’re trying to change the sound or just try something new, id say its worth trying stuff

[dapper laurel]

ok sweet

btw do u know if the 60he+ keyboard is hot swappable

[reef patrol]

All of our keyboards are - with compatible HE switches

[umbral heron]

Steelseries promo is interesting
Do I want to give my PC temporary cancer just to get a month of free Nitro for alt account?

[balmy vector]

Perfect task for a VM

[umbral heron]

A splendid idea indeed!

[magic minnow]

Got this Drunkdeer G75 from the Kickstarter

[umbral heron]

[balmy vector]

how dare they

[quaint dew]

LOL

[umbral heron]

You have to confirm account and sign up for their newsletter

[balmy vector]

Eeewwww

[river socket]

I have an 165Hz monitor but limited to 144Hz, Is it possible to get to 165Hz without overclocking ?

[crimson wigeon]

Many such monitors claim 165Hz but it really means they can be "safely" overclocked to 165Hz

So look around in the OSD for an option to enable it, and also make sure you connect to the monitor with a cable that supports it (it might only be supported on DisplayPort, for example)

[digital cliff]

yeah the OC usually sucks though so probably better to keep it at 144

[balmy vector]

@magic minnow soon!!

[reef patrol]

Welcoem to the clueb

[magic minnow]

Whaaaa! Gonna be ready for zombies c:

[balmy vector]

i will be ready!

[magic minnow]

[steady sail]

Use display port instead of HDMI

[steady sail]

Thats a big upgrade

[balmy vector]

Gonna be fun to put together

[steep creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oBOFTOsFNI

fractal design chair

[balmy vector]

Looks comfy

[steady sail]

I hope u gonna enjoy every minute of it :3

[balmy vector]

Oh that fractal chairs only gonna be 549 usd

Interesting

a 4080

[marsh glade]

We have the tech

[rough osprey]

WTF

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-say-what-wait-what-eh-gif-23269873

[marsh glade]

Is this not a thing everyone has? They replaced my create thread button with it, hid the one I actually use behind a burger menu -_-

[fair gull]

no thats not a reply

its a forward as in you cant get pinged as the original author

plus its cross discord afaik

and yes its only a select chunk of users

as with all experimental features

[rough osprey]

i dont see it on mobile ye

[marsh glade]

If I could grant it to someone else and get my thread button back I'd be thrilled

[fair gull]

get rekt

[balmy vector]

flexed on

[fair gull]

i mean mark can always hold shift to get all options

[sudden imp]

Lost thread permissions now you are condemned to only forward conversations

[digital cliff]

today I learned this is a thing

thanks for not telling me about it, discord

[marsh glade]

If you hold shift while replying then it's a silent message

[unkempt lake]

I still don't understand what was limiting you with a 12600k and a 4080

[fair gull]

even better you can also mark messages as unread if you use arrows to navigate and then alt+enter on the highlighted messages marks it unread

time for fleimi to read the discord cheat sheet

[unkempt lake]

But it's a pretty cool upgrade

[fair gull]

i mean if they play ffxiv it was the cpu

[unkempt lake]

prettt sure he doesn't

[balmy vector]

ffxiv does have issues thats true

Free trial is fun

[fair gull]

my 4090 is starved cause my cpu is maxed

smh

[unkempt lake]

i remember it being fine on a 9700k

did they change the game THAT much?

since

[severe phoenix]

https://www.androidauthority.com/nova-launcher-layoff-3469604/

[halcyon moss]

sadly.. i havent needed nova launcher in a long time

[digital cliff]

what the

[fair gull]

macos isnt feeling good today

[digital cliff]

not sure what I'm looking at

[fair gull]

the trashcan is empty but the icon indicates theres smth in it

[balmy vector]

It’s throwing itself in

[minor citrus]

have you tried killing Finder? 😄

[fair gull]

i will kill macbook

[minor citrus]

throwing hardware out of the window is always the fastest solution to problems

[steep creek]

i await the day discord allows you always keep the ping off

[magic minnow]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bitpit.launcher

This is what I've been using

[astral haven]

thats a very different kind of launcher

[bright briar]

https://a.co/d/fNGVLpU

[halcyon geode]

hi

[severe phoenix]

https://electronics.woot.com/offers/8bitdo-retro-mechanical-keyboard-fami-edition

[cloud birch]

hi guys, is it possible to make Fn key a toggle key like caps lock?

[reef patrol]

In a sense. Not with a single key

[cloud birch]

erm, how?

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/325413/intel-postpones-innovation-2024-event-to-2025-no-word-on-arrow-lake-launch

yet another intel delay

[ashen spindle]

nope thats not related to products

just the event is cancelled and it was a yearly dev/analyst etc. thing not product launch as the main reason

[gusty kiln]

ah

[sharp badger]

Do you want something like this?

[cloud birch]

@sharp badgeri found it and i made it happen somehow. but how can i change the colour of toggle on state now?

[sharp badger]

Could add colours to Fn layers, the little dot does nothing for me when adding another colour but it does on the Caps

[cloud birch]

@sharp badgerill check it out thanks

[sharp badger]

The little dots here should change colour otherwise just add different colour/s to the other layers to know that it has changed

[shadow minnow]

Was that still not added

[sharp badger]

Well it works with 1 key how I've got it

[reef patrol]

I don't see how or why it should

You hold FN to get to the layer you want, then you tap the lock key on that layer. Pesto

I'm not giving up a base layer key to swap and lock to a different layer 😄

[astral haven]

also profiles exist

[shadow minnow]

Yeah but they well take time

[reef patrol]

You can duplicate a profile.

[whole axle]

So when i plugged in ethernet rn \

my internet is slower

hows that possible lmao

[halcyon moss]

100mbit connection?

10mbit?

[whole axle]

1gb

[gusty kiln]

or maybe a cat4 cable

[whole axle]

cat6

went from 700 wireless

to 300 wired

[gusty kiln]

I guess check for driver update for your ethernet controller

[whole axle]

yup updated

what about the advanced settings?

in ethernet

[halcyon moss]

Does it say it has a 1gb connection in the network settings?

[astral haven]

300 means its got 1gig, theres nothing between 100m and 1g

[carmine moon]

dose enyone know how to get this light effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvQo5S103fY

[whole axle]

yes im saying 300 for the speed test lmao

[umbral heron]

That's Ripple RGB effect you can set in Wootility

[north tide]

idk how people play osu with seizure lighting enabled 😄

[carmine moon]

but how do i get 1 main coler and 1 ripple coler

[umbral heron]

Oh, thata way
I think you can make this with external RGB software, OpenRGB or Artemis for example

[sharp badger]

Play around with this

Can always adjust brightness & colour to your liking

[unkempt lake]

Is it like hard capped to 300 or is it like an odd number

Maybe your router's capping the device somehow

some QOS policy maybe

[whole axle]

i watched an optimization vid

followed it

now i have like 800

i hoped ethernet would give full 1000

but 100 more is aight ill take it

[unkempt lake]

Something's clearly fishy with this

[umbral heron]

Yeah, what optimisation guide?

[gusty kiln]

never going to get the full 1000

[unkempt lake]

Also maybe it's just your internet itself not reaching 1000

[gusty kiln]

there's always loss

[unkempt lake]

Which is highly possible idk what plan you have

[umbral heron]

Well yeah, ISP will usually give you 70~90% whatever you have on contact

[gusty kiln]

this is the best I can do with my 1gig plan

[unkempt lake]

actually we overprovision generally

By around 10%

[pastel nacelle]

My isp is trying to get me to switch.

But I have a locked in gigabit contract.

[unkempt lake]

If there's any loss it's due to congestion in the area or that specific customer's house

[vocal otter]

Socd has arrived in the apex pro series 💀

[pastel nacelle]

That im only paying 35 ! Month.

[umbral heron]

I'm pretty sure no one does that here, just says "average 80%, minimal 40%" and done

[umbral heron]

Yeah, hardcoded and you can't turn it off

[unkempt lake]

I'm just saying the isp i work for we give 10% extra but don't advertise it

[gusty kiln]

waiting for multi-gig to become more available

[unkempt lake]

We use it as a buffer to guarantee a speed

In case rf signal is slightly off or something happens

[gusty kiln]

2.5gig will be actually useful for the average person

[umbral heron]

For average person 300Mbps is enough

[balmy vector]

Oh its HARDCODED?

[umbral heron]

Yeah, only A and D

[unkempt lake]

Honestly... even less

[balmy vector]

Why did i expect anything less from SS

[unkempt lake]

Most households barely saturate 100mbps

[gusty kiln]

🏴‍☠️

[balmy vector]

Yeah my home gets 300-400mbps, got 4 in the household

[umbral heron]

Maybe you're right
Netflix, YouTube, some social media... 100 would be enough

[unkempt lake]

I know I am lol

It's not a maybe lol

😛

[umbral heron]

[balmy vector]

As long as i can download my games timely im a-ok

[gusty kiln]

as long as it is not COD, should never have an issue

[umbral heron]

I'm quite comfortable with 2000, it's enough for my whole network to work with no slowdowns

[unkempt lake]

That's like the one thing you may have to wait a little longer for with a lesser speed

I got like 500mbps at home.

[gusty kiln]

who is your provider?

[balmy vector]

Yeah, but ive been used to slower downloads

[umbral heron]

Netia

[balmy vector]

300 is perfect for my needs

[unkempt lake]

Tmw i live like a few streets off from where the ISP i work for's line ends

Can't get my free employee internet

[gusty kiln]

Ah it's polish

[unkempt lake]

😦 instead they write me a check for like 25$ as a compensation cuz i work from home

Still pretty poggers

[gusty kiln]

I'm in murica where some poeple are still on dial-up

[unkempt lake]

I mean nothing wrong with coax newer docsis standards still have a lot of potential

And honestly... it's plenty

[umbral heron]

Play offers 5Gbit, but no DNS, DDNS or port forwarding settings on their modem, and you have to use their modem
Netia gives you some random Huawei modem, but also auth data to their GPON and you can do whatever you want

[unkempt lake]

Cant you just bridge your own router to their modem

Set up your own dns and port fowards

There's no way that's not possible

Unless they're ultrascummy and just don't feel like it

[umbral heron]

Well no, it can only work in modem+router+AP mode, no pure bridge option

[unkempt lake]

That's just sad

[pastel nacelle]

I hate my isp giving us these gatekeep modems.

Then they get mad that I formatted it.

[unkempt lake]

just use your own router

Plug it in ask them to enable bridge mode ez pz

Turns off the erouter and problem solved

[gusty kiln]

I remember there was a lot of hype around google fiber, but they haven't expanded much

[unkempt lake]

IT SAYS YOU CANT TURN IT OFF LMAO

WTF ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO DO IF THEY PLAY LIKE IDK

A GAME WITH A QUICK TIME EVENT PRESS BOTH AT THE SAME TIME

[gusty kiln]

[balmy vector]

Die i guess

Steelseries fumbles once again

[pastel nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[unkempt lake]

I pay like 70cad for 500mbps the most i can get here

[gusty kiln]

the one steelseries mouse I have constantly flakes on the connection

[pastel nacelle]

Im paying half for gigabit.

New Jersey is awesome for interwebs.

[gusty kiln]

I would get the 5 gig plan

5gig/10gig my entire setup

[balmy vector]

converting, 50usd for that is nice

[gusty kiln]

or dual 2.5gig SMB

[unkempt lake]

• my work gives me 25cad a month extra for internet expenses cuz i live right outside of my work's terriroty meaning i can't get the free employee internet

So effectively i pay like 45cad after i get that in my bank acc

[balmy vector]

Thats kinda nutty

[unkempt lake]

I'd like the free employee internet tho i'd have gigabit + a cable box with every channel for free xD

but hey can't have everything

i'm not moving 2 streets closer for that

[gusty kiln]

Man I haven't watched actual TV in years

[balmy vector]

Same

[unkempt lake]

I used to when i lived at my parents cuz i had a cable box in my room and i'd use it mostly hust as background noise

always on the channel that has crime documentaries

[gusty kiln]

only had local channel tv growing up

remember those late night infomercials

[unkempt lake]

my parents liked tv so had quite a few channels

But yeah i havent watched tv since i moved out tbh

Like years ago

Cuz i couldn't be bothered to well pay for it

[gusty kiln]

on-demand streaming ftw

[unkempt lake]

But nowadays that's basically like cable too

you want x show you need y streaming service you want y show you need x streaming service

[gusty kiln]

I use stremio

[unkempt lake]

i'm talking if people want to be legit lol

[gusty kiln]

[unkempt lake]

Comparing legit to legit

[gusty kiln]

usually they have families each paying for 1 service

family plan

then they all share

[unkempt lake]

But netflix and shit cracks down on sharing

I mean

[gusty kiln]

at least you can pick and choose rather then buying ther whole 500+ channels for only 3-4 ones you actually want

[unkempt lake]

Still works for me cuz i use wireguard

Netflix thinks my apple tv is at my dads place

[gusty kiln]

the competitive fishing channel

[latent mural]

Serious question is zowie fucking stupid ?

[umbral heron]

That's possible... Why?

[sacred eagle]

what about Zowie

[little silo]

Netflix when I pirate everything instead.

[latent mural]

400 hz monitor when they have a 540 hz

[sacred eagle]

Oh. Was wondering if you were referring to mice

[magic minnow]

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/Assassin-IV-Premium-CPU-Air-Cooler-1700-AM5/2023/17129.shtml

This looks so cool

[clever scarab]

Hey, anyone know how to add the SOCD feature because every time i add it and save to my keyboard it never saves. It's so annoying.

[reef patrol]

See #⏬│rappy_and_snappy pins

[clever scarab]

ty ill look at it

[lavish flame]

Your monitor doesn't have 8khz 🤣

[little silo]

instant l

[lavish flame]

Can you even tell after 300hz

Mine has 144hz and tbh I'm happy with it as cheap as I am

[little silo]

are you insane??!!

everyone knows you need 480hz minimum, 8k polling mouse and keyboard in order to get any competitive advantage

[tawny sinew]

can someone help me? i have the wooting 60HE plus, i wanna bind alt plus F11 to a key, how do i do it?

[rustic ravine]

do i have to continuously lube my wooting 60he?

[steady sail]

add an FN layer and u can do it

[tawny sinew]

how do i do it?

[latent mural]

When did I say that

[steady sail]

wootility.io

[lavish flame]

Yea yea that 0.125 ms boost is game changing but no 💵

[lavish flame]

So you do have an 8khz monitor

[latent mural]

I said 8k polling rate mouse

[sacred eagle]

Necessary?

[rough osprey]

yes

[lavish flame]

Dude did you read the comments?

[latent mural]

No

[lavish flame]

We were joking about how you could never be good at video games without a 8khz monitor

[latent mural]

I thought you were making a joke about me saying 8k hz monitor

What year will it be when we can run 240 hz on 8k

[sacred eagle]

define "run"

[latent mural]

Have the hardware strong enough do that

[little silo]

no

[sacred eagle]

Thats a loose definition though

Like what game, what graphics levels

[tiny vessel]

anyone know what to do if you're wooting 60he stopped working after a software update had a error?
for more context mine was working fine and i went to update it and a error happened once i clicked on update again the keyboard lights flickered and turned off and now it wont turn on.

it makes the windows sound when i plug it in and unplug it and i've tried different cords and factory resetting the keyboard. nothing is broken and the software/web browser wont even let me get past the initializing point anymore

[sacred eagle]

Are you able to rollback the update (I am unfamiliar with how to do it though)

[tiny vessel]

do you mean via a pc restore point? or in the wootility?

restore point is out because i upgraded my motherboard and cpu a month before it stopped working

[sacred eagle]

For the keyboard, not so much the PC

Wooting software update?

[tiny vessel]

this is as far as i get

i unplugged and replugged a lot

even waiting a few minutes

the port is fine i checked it earlier for any bends or damage there's nothing

barely had it for 4-5 months which sucks a lot

[tiny vessel]

i see the wooting restore in my pc device settings just dont know if i gotta remove it or what

[sacred eagle]

Idk I have not needed to restore mine

Idk if control panel issues either

if its a driver goof

[tiny vessel]

im trying to look through everything rn

not a huge deal if it doesnt work i got a $95 replacement which is fine just really sucks

[tiny vessel]

i got it working

so

[sacred eagle]

What fixed it

[tiny vessel]

to fix it i clicked the try out wootility button and then troubleshooting and the reset device and it worked

i feel dumb

[sacred eagle]

Nice

[alpine patio]

yup once every 2 days

[analog sinew]

just store it in a lube bath when not in use

[undone rose]

^

[rustic ravine]

[tidal basin]

İ got a technical question regarding the analog mode:

Will we be able to use this mode as a touch-pad for Android games that need touch control, on LİNUX (Waydroid)?

[reef patrol]

Touchpad? You mean like with a finger or stylus? No? They're keys.

You can do CONTROLLER inputs

Wroom wroom gaspedal

[analog sinew]

i guess you could map two inputs together as x/y axes

but the resolution would only be 30sth x 30sth

[tidal basin]

What i mean is that android games are mostly played on phone or tablets with a touch screen right?
So they use analog input to register on certain spots on the screen to make you move/turn left or right etc.

My quetion is will we be able to use the analog mode to feed that signal to those games to turn left right etc...
(Which implies setting coordinates where the keys analog input is meant to go)

[analog sinew]

no

the analog mode is a linear input from 0.15 to 4 mm

the resolution of a phone tocuhscreen is much higher

[tidal basin]

i guess you don't understand what i mean, nevermind...

[analog sinew]

you want to use the input directly in game?

i mean if the game has an interface that allows that

[reef patrol]

Like I said - Not possible.

[analog sinew]

but translating the wooting input into a movement signal the game can detect would probably only work for select games

[reef patrol]

Controller inputs? Yes.

Acting as a mouse and clicking specific coordinates on the screen? No. And a lot of games would consider such tech botting and against their TOS

(Especially MMOs)

[tidal basin]

Controller inputs? Yes.
That's most likely what i meant... 👍

[final flame]

if you're playing on a android emulator they do support controller input, but that would be through the emulator
not the keyboard

[tidal basin]

Yea i guess controller support is easiest to try.

Otherwise we would need extra software that maps the analog input from each key to a region on screen, and provide that data as touch screen data...
(Which is actually what i asked for)

But as said controller input is best next option if supported by the emulator plus games...

Maybe its an idea for the techies here to create such a touch-screen driver for the analog mode of wooting KBs...

Mostly minimal config would be the WASD keys...
(OR...another mini KB that has that build in 🤣 )

[wheat plume]

Aswd...
WASD*

[tidal basin]

same keys 🤣
There i rearanged them to please all

They should have named them WSAD instead, to group up/down and left/right keys, but ahh well

[wheat plume]

Xd WASD is just fun to say lol

[pale sigil]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/handheld-gaming-pcs/new-steamos-beta-hints-at-an-imminent-general-install-with-rog-ally-support-added/

[tidal basin]

İ'm using https://bazzite.gg/ the SteamOS for PC's 😉

[wheat plume]

Bazzite ftw 💜💜

[mighty inlet]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/intel-cpu-crashes-what-you-need-to-knowmicrocode-to-blame-but-fix-incoming-this-month-alongside-two-year-extended-warranty/
Did anyone got CPU crash on 13th/14th gen?
I think mine is dead and i really dk what to do with that

[reef patrol]

Do additional testing and contact your seller for RMA?

[mighty inlet]

i do some tests on intel diagnostic tool, but all green and passed
But all my games in cs2/deadlock is hell for me bcoz pc can just shutdown with black screen
_
will drive to seller today to ask what's wrong, bcoz they just remove this order in profile and i cant make RMA on site, lmao

[tidal basin]

Sounds to me more like a problem with your motherboard and RAM combo...

[mighty inlet]

i did ram test and all fine

[tidal basin]

did you try a GPU stress test also?
İt might be related to overheating in that case

[mighty inlet]

occt, cinebench
all works fine with gpu tests

[tidal basin]

Well if it aint overheating, then might as well try replacing the CPU indeed

btw a normal test aint the same as a stress test....

[mighty inlet]

occt on extreme mode is good for stress test i guess

[tidal basin]

My PC is running at ~42 degrees Celsius, with 33 degrees outside...

Liquid cooling FTW 😉

[mighty inlet]

im sure there is 0 errors with temperatures, bcoz i tested with riva and it happened even with 60-70 degrees on gpu/cpu

but only in cs2 faceit and deadlock, lmao

[crimson wigeon]

And your motherboard firmware is uptodate?

[tidal basin]

🤷‍♀️

[mighty inlet]

yuh, last version
they said "fixed microcode bug", but i think damage is permanent

[tidal basin]

When you to the reseller make sure to show them the deadlock with the game running...

Otherwise they will simply do the tests you already did and say nothing wrong...

Oh and before i forget try to post your issue on the Game's developers site also, because it might also be just a bug in their game

[mighty inlet]

it happened with 13th/14th gen on faceit for some people and they said its cpu bug

[crimson wigeon]

Yes those CPUs are known problematic for many, new motherboard firmware help but I guess some are just unlucky

[tidal basin]

forget what "people said", thats not an official reply...

[mighty inlet]

that was official faceit support reply

[tidal basin]

Then use their reply to complain to İntel and see what they say...

İm glad im on pure AMD, CPU+GPU 😛

[mighty inlet]

probably >month for RMA, already sent them a ticket

[tidal basin]

We all learn by experience to drop İntel and nVidea....

[mighty inlet]

true, had ryzen 7 5800x and all was fine, but gpu im still fine with nvidia

[tidal basin]

Still is the keyword there, but for how long 🤭

[mighty inlet]

radeon had many issues with drivers in past and people with radeon receive VAC ban for drivers maybe 6 month ago, lmao

[tidal basin]

Took me 30+ years to switch also, so dont feel bad

🤣

[mighty inlet]

so probably will stay on my 3080 for sometime, till new gen for sure

[tidal basin]

That kind of bands are reverted, because the market aint İntel only...

İm using 7950x3D / 7900 XTX, which will be a good combo for many years to come...

[mighty inlet]

yuh

[wheat plume]

Fucking hell
This is way way wat more updated than SteamOS

SteamOS is getting really outdated :'(
Especially the stable branch

[ashen spindle]

Classic valve time

[tidal basin]

Yup it's the new SteamOS version to be...

[halcyon moss]

you run steam os on a desktop?

[tidal basin]

No i do better i run Bazzite 😛

[halcyon moss]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[wheat plume]

SteamOS is very possible to run on desktop
If you can find a way to make it no longer immutable

Or all the apps you need are on Flatpak

[halcyon moss]

right. thats like saying LFS is suitable for desktop :p

[wheat plume]

Lol

Nah not really

[tidal basin]

Who needs SteamOS when you have the Deck version of Bazzite?

[wheat plume]

Yeh xd
I'm so tempted to switch over

But I can't be bothered waiting for games to redownload

[tidal basin]

İts working super and getting better every single day

[wheat plume]

Yeh I know !

[steady sail]

same

[halcyon moss]

ok. so bezzite is fedora

[tidal basin]

Do your selfs a favor and switch NOW... 😉
You won't regret it

[tidal basin]

İts a fedore based system... thats not same as being fedore...

[halcyon moss]

im on popos. and im not a distro hopper :p

a distro gets a chance when i get new hardware

[umbral heron]

So Fedora
So worse, because it's not Arch
Your honour, I rest my case

[halcyon moss]

lana, the biggest arch fan, settled on fedora :p

[tidal basin]

İts not a distro... its an immutable variant....
There is a technical diff we wont go into right now...

İn the end all distros are LINUX...

[halcyon moss]

sounds nice for gaming, but not for work 😉

[steady sail]

Lunix my favorite

[umbral heron]

Immutable

[tidal basin]

İts nice for gaming but not only... you have all the options for work also...

[wheat plume]

Yeh :') it's wonderful

I'm not settling
I like it a lot xd

[tidal basin]

The best part of immutable is that one team fixes problems, and everyone gets a system that "Just works"...
You still have possibilities to personalize and tweak tho like any other Linux...

[steep creek]

i’m with drakonen i really like pop. think im done with arch for now lol

[umbral heron]

[halcyon moss]

yeah i wonder where immutable is going to go. it does sound nice

[steady sail]

and im just stupid

[steep creek]

however i’ve distro hopped about 20 times past few months so take my preference with grain of salt

[tidal basin]

İts like Android, base system and config is fixed by a team, but on top of that the user can still add and change stuff on top of that...

[wheat plume]

Yes
But SteamOS overwrites changes you make to /

When you update

[umbral heron]

Doesn't overwrite /home or /var still

[tidal basin]

İve tried ALL distros in my past years with PC's, over 40 years, but Bazzite is truely the only one i can recommend by heart...

[halcyon moss]

config fixing has been a thing in debian as long as i can remember

but thats not what you meant

[tidal basin]

No indeed because they, bazzite team, fix config in combination with software versons and kernel and drivers etc etc

İf you fuckup your system by your local changes, just rebase to the previous unmodified verson and your ready to go again...

[halcyon moss]

i once worked with solaris, and that had zfs snapshots before doing a system update.
that was magical.

glad i've never worked with solaris ever again

[tidal basin]

bazzite uses BTRFS...

[wheat plume]

Sounds like standard Fedora Atomic

[halcyon moss]

thats what it is based on

[wheat plume]

Thought it was silverblue based?

[tidal basin]

Yes bazzite is a Fedora Atomic variant indeed

[halcyon moss]

i just read that on the bezzite website

[wheat plume]

Oh

[tidal basin]

İn short its Linux with so many layers of newest tech on top....

Most stable Linux so far İMHO, while at same time using latest software

[halcyon moss]

İn
the fuck is that magical capital i

[tidal basin]

İts the turkish version of a captital i

My KB is Turkish 😉

[halcyon moss]

İ
Latin letter I with dot above; used in Turkic languages

İ, or i, called dotted I or i-dot, is a letter used in the Latin-script alphabets of Azerbaijani, Crimean Tatar, Gagauz, Kazakh, Tatar, and Turkish. It commonly represents the close front unrounded vowel /i/

[tidal basin]

in about 3 months, when my 80HE arrives i will be on US again...

[wheat plume]

Yep
Regular Fedora Workstation is rock solid too

But I image if you mess more with it then maybe not

[tidal basin]

You are always able to mess stuff up no matter which Linux variant, thats where the atomic versions come into play to make it easier to recover from mistakes...

[wheat plume]

Yeh xd

[tidal basin]

For those interested, and wanting to ask or read more about bazzite you can join their discord: https://discord.bazzite.gg/

[steady sail]

im more into gaming that anyhthing else soo

im gonna be fine on windoge

[tidal basin]

Yea im more into gaming also last few years...
My geek days are over, getting old 🤣

Talking about gaming, i better go play some WOTB again

[steady sail]

but one of my issue is that i wanna play the newer cods and bc of cods anticheat i cant

[tidal basin]

2 choices, either drop the games with anti cheat that doesnt work on Linux or complain till they do support Linux...

You as a consumer has the right to choose your OS...

[steady sail]

overall i never really had any issue with windows bc im not a poweruser im just a normal user with a little bit more knowledge

[tidal basin]

Not to forget that Valve is trying to force game companies to make their games compatible and working on Linux because of their DECK 😉

[steady sail]

i know that that why i wanna wait for it

even if i have to wait years

[tidal basin]

Then buy another drive / SSD to install Bazite on to dual boot...

İ promise you will use Bazzite more as your MicroCrap OS hahaha

[steady sail]

i mean i play riot games with friends and R6 as well and those are not on linux soo

[tidal basin]

FREE THE WORLD from MS ! - TriMoon 2024

[digital cliff]

what is bazzite

[tidal basin]

https://bazzite.gg/

Well all im off for a gaming session cyall l8r

[digital cliff]

so fedora with preinstalled steam

big woop

[steady sail]

yeah i cant bc of 1 m.2 slot overall xd

• i dont know how to create dual boot anyway soo im fine xd

im just gonna wait till games that i wanna play are supported

[digital cliff]

that's gonna be never, but windows is fine for gaming already so probably just stay there

[tidal basin]

https://tenor.com/bQSNq.gif

[umbral heron]

Resize Windows NTFS drive, install Linux on the free space, add Windows Boot Manager to GRUB, done