🔌│tech

[balmy vector]

noctua ftw

[unkempt lake]

I like noctua's sound signature better and they have good CS.

Thermal right is an amazing value tho

All depends on your budget and what you value personally

[whole axle]

See that’s the thing I don’t care about preference. Other than being the color black. Which performs best lol

Then I get that one

[lyric hatch]

From my thinking if I drop 3k on a PC going a little bit extra and getting a more premium cooler for an extra $80-100 ain't that big of a deal

[whole axle]

^^

[final flame]

I personally use a phantom spirit on my 9700k
perfectly good temps, better than the aio I was using prior

[lyric hatch]

For anyone that's not me and doesn't care the thermalright is the easy recommend. If I was building a PC for a friend I would use it 🤷‍♂️

[unkempt lake]

Acoustically the noctua i find more enjoyable (not saying thermalright fans are bad)
Thermally they're both amazing

[steep creek]

man i will just stick to noctua as well, i like that you can contact them and they give you a bracket for free, cooler lasts so long anyways

had mine since i was in my mid teens, cooler is just like day one

[unkempt lake]

You do kinda pay for them with the premium price lol

[steep creek]

yes true but since it’s lasted so long i’m willing to pay it

[whole axle]

Better than the people paying premium for a case manufacturer aio

[steep creek]

also it’s very quiet which i love

[unkempt lake]

That's the main thing for me that's wotth the ptemium

The sound signature it's less annoying

But i'll say for people who are less noise sentivie

Thermalright will do just fine

[final flame]

many aios are just rebranded from the same few companies that make them
asetek etc

[steep creek]

i get annoyed by sounds easily, especially when studying

[unkempt lake]

Most people won't be able to tell the difference tbh

[whole axle]

I was more going at the people who buy Corsair and Nzxt really

[unkempt lake]

I get that also back when i used to have my bedroom also be my office

[final flame]

asetek makes both of those kek

[unkempt lake]

Arctic fans are also pretty good for the price but again idk the sound bothers me

[whole axle]

exactly my point aios are pointless fr fr

Air coolers or liquid cooling only

[unkempt lake]

Unless you're running a 14900k

Or something like that

[whole axle]

Good thing I’m gonna have a 9800x3d

[final flame]

intel = space heater

good if you have a cold room

[unkempt lake]

Then you don't even need a big air cooler most likely

[unkempt lake]

combined with new gpus... yeah

[whole axle]

Probably

[unkempt lake]

My 7900xtx is a space heater its nuts

[final flame]

my 9700k does a good job at heating my room, a little too good actually

[steep creek]

yep likewise

[final flame]

14nm intel moment

[astral haven]

5950x does a better job of heating my room than my 9900k did...

[unkempt lake]

My 9700k at 5ghz + my 7900xtx before i upgraded to a 7800x3d

Oh boy thay was quite the e space heater setup

Still is just a little less xD

I mean not really cuz i put the 9700k in nico's rig to replace his 9400f so thermally im pretty sure its back to where it was

[balmy vector]

free heater when you need one at least now

[steep creek]

my 9900k runs cool, but i’m not sure of the newer ones so im open for going amd next time

nhd15 has no issue cooling it down even in the summer which is neat

[astral haven]

im more talking about room heating power

[steep creek]

aha

well yea i notice the room heating up a bit when im in a game, but not so much otherwise

[astral haven]

intel is still dramatically cooler at the same wattage, but the new stuff is dramatically more wattage than amd at the same performance

and they used to have an advantage at idle, but that seems gone now

[steep creek]

yeah seems so, all tho i am a bit excited to see how lunar lake performs on laptops unplugged

[graceful wedge]

I think I should just end up buying my old cpu cooler instead of thermal right

Seems more safer

[ashen spindle]

do you mean buy the same or reuse what you have

[graceful wedge]

But i haven’t ordered any of it yet besides regular fans

Just planning on buying parts, but keep ending up making last minute decisions

I have about 3 to 4 days to make up my mind (for prime day)

[ashen spindle]

well what cpu cooler is it and what are you doing with the old pc

because if you keep it for spare or sell parts individually just reuse the same cooler if it fits

[graceful wedge]

Well instead of selling my old pc, I kind of want to take apart parts and explore

[graceful wedge]

(Safely)

[astral haven]

yea id avoid a liquid cooler unless you really know what you are getting into

[ashen spindle]

whats the cooler in that pc you currently use

[astral haven]

🤷 save the money and spend it on better cpu, or ram or gpu idk

AIO is for looks, if you are into the look then go for it, but it aint gonna help with performance, where that $60 can help elsewhere

[graceful wedge]

I have to turn in my pc to check specs brb

[unkempt lake]

...?

[astral haven]

the cooler you need to actually take a picture of the insides

[unkempt lake]

^this

[graceful wedge]

Well I mean it’s Corsair

I have a 970evo plus too so that’s pretty cool

250gb so pretty bad

[unkempt lake]

huh

[graceful wedge]

I know that has nothing to do with the cooler

Just wanted to add

[astral haven]

corsair computer? corsair cooler?
both?

[astral haven]

hunh neat

yea you can just use that

[graceful wedge]

I’m getting 90 temps tho

Pc overheats everyday sometimes if I play long hours

[unkempt lake]

Dead pump

[astral haven]

dead pump or bad clip?

[unkempt lake]

Or pump not setup properly

[astral haven]

looks to me like it would be a broken clip

[graceful wedge]

Prob dead pump

Or yea maybe broken clip

it was my pc so i couldve taken care of it better

[astral haven]

can you put your finger on the corsair logo? does it feel like theres a bee in there trying to get out?

[graceful wedge]

No texture

[astral haven]

or does it feel loose

[umbral heron]

First parts ordered

[graceful wedge]

Just smooth

[unkempt lake]

you got fancy lookin ram

Rgb

[umbral heron]

One of the cheapest ones

[unkempt lake]

If its the same price why not

[astral haven]

do you feel any vibration at all? it should be humming slightly

[graceful wedge]

Barley

Like very very slightly

[shell chasm]

full send the 14900ks with custom waterloop

[graceful wedge]

Maybe not it’s hard to tell

[astral haven]

thats what it should be

does it feel loose?

[graceful wedge]

No feels pretty sturdy

[astral haven]

when the clips break it usually is alot worse than 90 degrees

yea im a bit confuzzled

90 degrees?

[graceful wedge]

Gets 97 a lot

So I have a fan going to the back so it cools to cpu from the back

[astral haven]

that wont help

[astral haven]

following the tubes, there should be a radiator thing, is the fan spinning on that?

[graceful wedge]

Yea a fan is spinning behind there

I don’t think it’s that effective tho

The fans blow air in the wrong way I think

Like they’re blowing air to the white wall

[whole axle]

What brand?

[unkempt lake]

I mean it's not that it doesn't run cool

It just puts a lot of heat into the room

[whole axle]

No no I’m getting one too I just wanna know which one you got

[unkempt lake]

Xfx merc

[whole axle]

W

[unkempt lake]

Love mine had it for a year

[whole axle]

I was gonna get the merc however xfx dropped the magnetic air so I’m getting that one

[graceful wedge]

What do u guys use to clean ur pcs? I used to use Clorox wipes but they would leave like residue stuff

Wouldnt use them on the dangerous parts that would make the pc break obv

[unkempt lake]

canned air and a microfiber

isopropyl alcohol

[graceful wedge]

But is it gunna be way better than the thermalright

Because with the aio cooler I feel like the fans are blowing out really cold air

That’s the impression this gives me

[ashen spindle]

thats not how this works at all

[unkempt lake]

No

[unkempt lake]

If it's blowing cold air then it's... not working

You blow the heat out of the radiator

The air being warm shows that well... the radiator is cooling down

[graceful wedge]

Ohh

[graceful wedge]

So it’s like this right?

But on the topside of the pc and 3 fans

[final flame]

the idea is that the radiator is used to cool the water inside by blowing air over the pipes, the air transfers the heat out of the case

[final flame]

are your fans set to intake or outtake?

[graceful wedge]

Outtake

They’re are blowing air out of the pc, I have 1 fan that blows air into the pc tho

[whole axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVT8GP

[graceful wedge]

It’s blowing more air into the pc then I thought

[whole axle]

Here’s my pc build minus the 9800x3d and x870e im gonna put in

Deciding on my psu too idk if 850 gonna be enough

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/oAE4NWoyMZk?si=m6JFIpirJJ6Z-rmh

[lyric hatch]

Welp more reason to buy amd

Love Wendell

[unkempt lake]

I do hope intel get back on their feet

Competition is good

[whole axle]

Not if they keep charging $600 for a cpu that runs at 600c

[unkempt lake]

problem is if we don't have intel, amd will just become intel

A monopoly in an industry sucks

[whole axle]

Eh they said they are more of a software company today

[ashen spindle]

this is bad but not that bad that we need to worry about that at all xD

[whole axle]

Idk

[unkempt lake]

True

[umbral heron]

Yeah... Member what happened with Intel during Bulldozer era... Hoping Intel will recover

[unkempt lake]

Basically yeah

I don't want to go back to the 1 player days

Where you pay for overpriced stagnating tech

[astral haven]

To be fair tho, we got the 5775c prior to zen

[unkempt lake]

Broadwell

[astral haven]

Whereas in the athlon64 days we got refreshes after refreshes

[unkempt lake]

Kinda crazy how broadwell feels like it never existed

No one adopted it

No push was done for it

[astral haven]

Yea, it was expensive but it was shockingly ahead of its time

[unkempt lake]

I mean we got laptop with it?

Besides that things just shifted to skylake so quickly

[ashen spindle]

it doesnt seem like an issue that would affect ARL/LNL so im not worried about intel having issues after this again at least not in terms of reliability

[astral haven]

Yea
Skylake was cheaper but not faster 😦

[astral haven]

Yea, we haven't had any doas yet though we are laptop and t skus only

[unkempt lake]

I still have my old 5700HQ 970M laptop downstairs

[astral haven]

Boring

[unkempt lake]

nico uses it to play siege on the dinner table sometimes when i work cuz his pc is well next to mine in the office

On the odd days where i work but he doesn't

[astral haven]

The real interesting chips are the dudes with 128mb of edram

[unkempt lake]

True

[modest hamlet]

Wonder if Im gonna get a free 14 series?

[unkempt lake]

?

Why would you

[modest hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-the-dice-king-cuphead-gif-23368960

well if my 13 is one of the Half that bust

[ashen spindle]

I mean if you chip dies you might get a replacement 14th gen yes

[modest hamlet]

I mean so says Wendell

[ashen spindle]

but its literally the same so its just an annoyance for you

no thats for servers not regular consumers with one chip

[modest hamlet]

right I guess we will see what happens

[ashen spindle]

well normally one would hope their hardware doesnt randomly die xD

[modest hamlet]

wait is this the reason they did the rehash that is 14? like they knew that 13's were gonna die so they tried to fix and or made replacement's for busted 13? Thats crazy to think about

like why in the world would you make the same type of chip but call it the next gen?

[ashen spindle]

14th has more issues than 13

[ashen spindle]

marketing

[modest hamlet]

sure

hold on someone is at my door....

[ashen spindle]

same reason laptop chips get a new name for a new yer when its just the same cpu

[modest hamlet]

yeah

[graceful wedge]

U can put fans on the bottom of the hyte y60 right?

Bottom part of the gpu

[lyric hatch]

Looks like it

[graceful wedge]

Alr sick

[empty wren]

I think I saw that in microcenter

[graceful wedge]

Yea I saw it too, caught my eye

Looked unique but found out it was a “tiktok case”

Still looks cool and spacious so I’m buying it

[modest hamlet]

look for people building in it they will tell you a lot and have better perspective

[graceful wedge]

I just hope I can fit 3 fans on the side easily, other then that everything should be good

[modest hamlet]

hoping and knowing are two different things

[graceful wedge]

Idk how I’m going to fit 11 fans into this case

I already ordered 4

It seems like the most that I can fit is 9 in the case

It’s a stretch but maybe I can squeeze the other 2 fans in somewhere, I’ll just keep them as spare tho

[bright briar]

what gpu you putting in that

[graceful wedge]

7800xt

Something like that

[bright briar]

hell yeah

[graceful wedge]

[unkempt lake]

@graceful wedge are you like

Really inexperienced

[unkempt lake]

*7900xt is what is in your bundle

Why do i know your build more than you do xD

[still loom]

1 intake fan? Usually you'd want more intake than exhaust fans to create a positive pressure in your case

[graceful wedge]

Yea

[unkempt lake]

This

[graceful wedge]

I’ve had a pc for a few years but just never researched about it as much as I should have

[graceful wedge]

With the new pc it’ll def be more better

It’s nice how cool these fans are, no wonder I thought that these little fans didn’t blow much air

[merry osprey]

bro if u need help with that ask me im 300 iq

[unkempt lake]

https://alderongames.com/intel-crashes

[graceful wedge]

[merry osprey]

LMAO

imagine buying intel in 2020+

hahahahahha nc1

[halcyon moss]

Yikes..

[severe phoenix]

https://x.com/videogamedeals/status/1811416003101737080

Cheap Ass Gamer (@videogamedeals) on X

8BitDo SN30 Pro - Golden/Silver Limited Edition $99.99 via 8bitdo. Made With Metal. https://t.co/GwjxgcqpsN

Twitter · Jul 11, 2024, 3:03 PM

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

funnily enough maximum isnt what nvidia recommends for quality. they use hbao+ for example for ambient occlusion and also enable the LOD for distant objects and player shadows with LOD.

and i checked that those are the settings of the quality optimization not performance

[unkempt lake]

Morning tony

Also that's... interesting

[fair gull]

like my dlss run is the quality optimization from geforce experience. and its odd it wouldnt go with the maximum preset equivilant and just enable dlss on top

wonder if their drivers are optimized for thoe AO settings and such or if nvidia just knows smth sqex doesnt

especially the LOD one confuses me cause for quality youd always want the highest quality models at any distance i thought

[tulip flare]

chat my hyperx quadcast s is dying and im wondering if i should rebuy it again or does anyone have other mic suggestions

[old marlin]

either razer seiren mini (if they still carry the original one), should be less than 50 bucks

or a cheap dynamic mic with a cheap interface,
my go to here would be an xm8500 (~25€) and an m-track solo (~50€)

[tulip flare]

nahh i had this D; i dont like how i sound with it

people tolld me blue yeti but isnt it just the same with hyperx quadcast

[old marlin]

blue yeti sucks

[tulip flare]

dang. should i just rebuy hyperx then.

i prob had this for almost 2 yrs, mabye

[old marlin]

can't you rma it?

[tulip flare]

no

bought it off shopee i think

[old marlin]

[tulip flare]

mabye ill go with fifine am8

[lusty tide]

fifines are really good budget mics. i’m sure you’ll be happy with it

[umbral heron]

@wheat plume They delayed my order again
Apparently shipment from Nothing will arrive on 24th

[wheat plume]

Wait wait
It sold out already?!?!

NOTIFY ME

[umbral heron]

So is here
There's only 2 blue ones left

[wheat plume]

Oh my

[crimson wigeon]

Neat

[halcyon moss]

Cheap Smartwatch sells

[bold coyote]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/747287659/tetra-keyboard-split-touch-type?ref=section-homepage-projectcollection-16-staff-picks-popular

[halcyon moss]

Ergonomics and a screen in the keyboard.... Yeaaahhhh right

[bold coyote]

[marsh glade]

I just use two 60HE's, one for my left hand and one for my right. Then each of my feet have an UwU

Still waiting on Simon to make it so that holding a button on my UwU lets me access layers on my 60HEs. The instead of fn layers I'll call them feet layers 😎

[halcyon moss]

The split keyboard is interesting though...

[balmy vector]

Maximum gaming form, you have truly mastered the art of play

[oak ember]

My Z fold 4 is stuck open rn cause screen protector lifted

I use it like a normal sized phone too much. Weird having a big screen

These things are pretty great but need more support. Discord has been bugging out on it

[fair gull]

i use 4 60hes cause my feet need more than 3 keys each

[marsh glade]

Showoff

[fair gull]

i mean i lied anyway id use twohes

[rigid kiln]

if i press A and D to bottom out, will i stay still when using rappy snappy? does it pick a random key or does it default to one direction (some games do SOCD like this)

[fair gull]

it doesnt do socd

both are active

the game should handle the socd not the keyboard

[pale trellis]

I once played the first disc of Final Fantasy 8 with my feet 👍

[scarlet jackal]

You must have really good feet control to fully utilize the improvement Hall effect brings to feet pedals. That’s impressive. I’m still on mechanical feet pedals which I pride myself over membrane feet pedals but I’ll never develop the control needed to master rapid trigger feet pedalling techniques

[balmy vector]

perhaps you just need some extra practice to master this technique

[pale sigil]

Wasn't it disabled though

[sharp badger]

Where do one see if it's enabled?

[sudden imp]

The eu and the US need to do something

It’s ridiculous how they can violate our consent while telling us our voices matter???

[digital cliff]

there's one easy solution

[ashen spindle]

but its expensive to run macos

[digital cliff]

skill issue

[crimson wigeon]

Copilot? I've still not seen it in Windows

Even on the latest insider build I tried

[digital cliff]

what is copilot

[crimson wigeon]

Does it not get enabled if one is using a local account?

[hasty thunder]

actually we have the right to install and uninstall whatever we want here in the EU without them being dicks and re-installing their shit.
Microsoft pulled that shit off before and had to pay a juicy fine for that

[hasty thunder]

basically an AI companion trash thing. Like Siri, Gemini, etc.

[digital cliff]

sounds useful ngl, AI's kinda great

[sudden imp]

Can Americans get an EU verison of windows…?

[digital cliff]

least chatgpt regularly solves problems for me search engines can't

[hasty thunder]

it's more of the annoying kind of help

[reef patrol]

Less so when it stops becoming an option, and it starts intefering with regular searches.

[hasty thunder]

like bonzy buddy

[fair gull]

the group policy for copilot is in win11 even if you dont have it yet

[hasty thunder]

[fair gull]

User config > Admin templates > Win componenet > win copilot

[hasty thunder]

should've changed the comment to Nope imo

[crimson wigeon]

Ooh right because of my country I'll probably never get copilot, just like Cortana

[hasty thunder]

be glad

these things are the worst and most annoying

[digital cliff]

I can get behind that

[unkempt lake]

Next ms project: master chief

[reef patrol]

And it flipped back with the latest update.

[sudden imp]

I swear they slip a switch every so often hoping no one would notice

[ancient python]

Finally arrived

[narrow breach]

yum

[ancient python]

Shit about to be lit 360hz with 2k and QD oled

[fair gull]

u sure they didnt mean the one in settings?

theres also this which you have to intentionally do

[reef patrol]

No.

I had it disabled prior to the update today, it went back on "not set" in GP - Just like the example I posted further up had.

[fair gull]

interesting

[reef patrol]

Conclusion - Microsoft doesn't respect group policies anymore 😄

[fair gull]

time to remove the appx package for it

apparently theres also a registry key for it

reg add HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot /v TurnOffWindowsCopilot /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

and ofc the appx removal via Get-AppxPackage *CoPilot* -AllUsers | Remove-AppPackage -AllUsers in an admin powershell

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean windows update will reinstall it soon after

[fair gull]

i mean it didnt for me

and idk how they pick who gets the preview

[ashen spindle]

very much doubt they dont respect GPE anymore

like thats how they screw over business accounts and thats the money so I have a hard time believing that

[fair gull]

i mean microsoft not respecting GPE would immediately start a dumpster fire in the business world

[reef patrol]

Whether intentional or not, that is exactly what happened here.

[ashen spindle]

I mean did you turn it off or did you set a group policy to have it be off

[reef patrol]

Both infact

Disabled it in the control panel, and checked GP afterwards.

[ashen spindle]

if you disable it that means you didnt set it as group policy though?

[reef patrol]

Whaddya mean?

I did both.

[astral haven]

if the switch is interactable, the group policy isnt set

right has group policy set, left doesnt

[crimson wigeon]

How to get it

[astral haven]

if its outright gone, dont worry about it until it shows back up again 🤷

[sour sparrow]

hey so i just got my wooting rn and the rgb is only showing on the the very top row and nothing else anyone have a fix?

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[pale trellis]

Simeon on Security Optimize Harden and Debloat script and done, look at the code on GitHub if you don't trust it 👍

"Windows 10 and Windows 11 are invasive and insecure operating system out of the box. Organizations like PrivacyTools.io, Microsoft, Cyber.mil, the Department of Defense, and the National Security Agency have recommended configuration changes to lockdown, harden, and secure the operating system. These changes cover a wide range of mitigations including blocking telemetry, macros, removing bloatware, and preventing many digital and physical attacks on a system. This script aims to automate the configurations recommended by those organizations."

[digital cliff]

maybe just don't use windows if you care about that stuff

[pale trellis]

I dual boot with Cachy OS too 😊

[sudden imp]

Issue is many people are locked into windows because of their monopoly and lack of programs supporting other operating systems.

[digital cliff]

I can see that

just depends on how much weight you place on the privacy stuff and otherwise

when the cost of dealing with windows is more than the cost of dealing with macos or linux, you switch

[sudden imp]

that is true

[digital cliff]

I passed that point years ago, I urge others to do the same if they can haha

in time maybe the tide will turn

[sudden imp]

Hope so

for the moment are there programs that clean windows shit/ a tutorial of what you need to rid of to help people who are locked in?

[digital cliff]

I think there are lots of stuff that "harden" windows against privacy invasion but I'm not so convinced they do much of anything except disable things other windows functionality relies on

so you're just constantly fighting against this or that feature not working because you used a hack that disabled this or that thing in the registry

[astral haven]

generally it wont do too much since most of the settings are there so that businesses who need them can use them

[digital cliff]

try the things this comment recommends, YMMV I guess

[astral haven]

remember its not like apple where there are hard lines between capability and incapability

[sudden imp]

WAIT MICROSOFT THEMSELVES RECOMMEND THIS???

[astral haven]

windows is made to be able to work for everyone

[astral haven]

not that specific script
they recommend a series of settings to make things more secure

[reef patrol]

Huehuehue

Imagine keeping your RMA systems closed, and not publicly accessible by literally anyone. Couldn't be MSI.

[fair gull]

that quote makes no sense

[nimble canopy]

if I had a nickel for every time a computer part company leaked their rma to the bublic, I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[reef patrol]

Via google and duckduckgo no less.

[fair gull]

also not thousands of google links

but a handy dandy database

lol

[reef patrol]

export to Excel

Intranet, yet publicly available.
No logins, no authentication or anything.

babbys first server

[fair gull]

i really wonder how the fudge a clearly marked INTRANET url goes public

how does that subdomain point to anything with a public IP and not a well INTRANET one

[reef patrol]

This is going to hurt when the FTC spins up.

Cause it isn't even a leak. It is gross negligence.

[pale trellis]

Lol, Optus in Australia did something similar in scope.

The FBI email also keeps getting hacked.

[fair gull]

well this isnt hacked though

you literally google msi rma website click the 4th or so result and done

the website is open

[pale trellis]

Oh wow, wtf, I thought Optus was fkd, well done MSI 🤣

[fair gull]

same with zotac like

start of this week

google rma site:zotacusa.com and boom

all the rma data you want from zotac

[pale trellis]

Yeah I heard the zotac one, RMA receipts searchable on Google, companies were pissed, SuperMicro etc, big clients

[nimble canopy]

And it happend so close to each other

[fair gull]

yeah thats what i dont get

2 pretty high profile cases of the same nature

in 1 week no less

this is like spectre and meltdown all over

[pale trellis]

Care to speculate on correlations?

[fair gull]

when CPU issues were found back to back for a while

[nimble canopy]

Msi saw the publicity zottac got and needed some more publicity

[fair gull]

i dont think what zotac got was really the kind of publicity any other company wants

[nimble canopy]

You now what they say any publicity is good publicity

[fair gull]

well some of it can just ruin your shareholders view or customers view on you as a company

and leaking all sorts of RMA data ever and your personal info is just there... well

[ashen spindle]

just long outstanding issues and just needed to get some catalyst to have it be exposed, in this case a viewr thinking the zotac tweets are about msi lol

[pale trellis]

I wonder if any other companies have done such things in similarly stupid ways that may be exposed soon 🤔

[fair gull]

also interesting google first indexed the intranet site in 2023

april

[reef patrol]

[sudden imp]

omg the quote from one of deepcools partner when they said something along of the lines of 'how do they run a fucking buisness??'

[trim crane]

@bright briar i have a 3080Ti, what kinda stuttering do you mean

[bright briar]

i have a 3080 12 gb and just notice sometimes, not as much anymore but my game stutter/lags for a second

i notice it when i tried playing elden ring last year so i refunded the game

could of been a bad drivers update

[trim crane]

My carrd seems to be fine 3080Ti FE, 1440p 360Hz

[bright briar]

idk then tbh, i got my card when the shortages were happening over here and canada got hit hard with that barely any gpus around so i wouldnt be surprised if my gpu isnt made "properly". I also have coil whine on my gpu when i start up most games

do you have coil whine?

[trim crane]

my only issue is that I live with no AC and I need an efficient video card with AV1

around 200W or less

so probably gonna take a few generations, probably RTX 70 series or something

[bright briar]

that sucks

[trim crane]

thats fine, I mean at least half the year I can use it as a space heater

[bright briar]

thats what i do lmfao

[ashen spindle]

i mean you could get a 4090 and just powerlimit it or undervolt/mem oc it to 200W max

[bright briar]

when its too cold outside i turn on dead space remastered lmfao

[trim crane]

The idea is getting a mid high end card (70 class) and an 8 core X3D CPU with an ITX mobo and CAMM2 hopefully with low latency

[bright briar]

how many watts is your psu for your 3080ti?

[trim crane]

assuming those are gonna be 200~W

[trim crane]

1,100 platinum in case i upgraded it, but priorities shifted...

[bright briar]

i have 850w gold

you think i should upgrade that?

[trim crane]

also accounting for 30 series transience

[ashen spindle]

unless you want to overclock 850w is more than fine

[bright briar]

yeah i dont overclock, the gpu comes factory overclocked though

https://a.co/d/fAfyNnG

[trim crane]

i also will need something beyond DP80 for an endgame display

[ashen spindle]

nah those tiny overclocks dont do anything big in power consumption

[bright briar]

this is the psu i have

[bright briar]

fair i appreciate the advice

[trim crane]

so I cant settle for DP 2.1 UHBR20

[ashen spindle]

wtf are you trying to use that that wont be enough

that can do 8k 120hz and higher

[trim crane]

no

im a motion clarity junkie

[ashen spindle]

what does that even mean

[trim crane]

1440p 720Hz 12 bit no DSC

even todays sample and hold displays look like vaseline to me compared to ULMB 2

[ashen spindle]

did anyone even announce to work on a 12bit screen lol

[trim crane]

no idea, plus this would be like 5 years from now so theres lots of time

[distant tapir]

Just get a CRT (Sony GDM F520) ||unironically||.

[trim crane]

lol

[distant tapir]

I'm not kidding. You'd probably be happy.

[trim crane]

i also want it in OLED too so

[ashen spindle]

uhbr20 can already do 1440p 720hz no DSC btw

[trim crane]

12 bit?

[distant tapir]

OLED and great motion clarity? Damn son. You can't have both.

[trim crane]

that requires DP120

[ashen spindle]

idk at what bit depth but even if thats just at 8bit you can do the lowest DSC verison then and thats no issue

DSC has different modes, if you notice a difference it will be the 3 slices one

[trim crane]

more colors

[ashen spindle]

so if you just need a tiny bit more you wont notice it

yeah so do 12bit with minimal amount of DSC and you will not notice it using DSC

[trim crane]

i just wanna avoid it all together

[ashen spindle]

yeah but thats placebo

[trim crane]

tabbing in and out, as well as custom resolutions and screen flickers on secondary monitors have been an issue for me

when I disable it i have no issues

but i would lost my ULMB 2 and go to 1440p 240Hz

it doesnt look that good

and thats where the 720Hz OLED sample and hold comes into play

1440p 480Hz is around the corner

[ashen spindle]

do you play anything remotely modern? because the bigger issue would be having something that can even reach that framerate to consider if DSC is an issue or not

[trim crane]

not modern perse

but anything that benefits from MPRT yes

its nothing most people coukd ever justify, but I have played this for about half of my life

[distant tapir]

One of the biggest reasons why 'get a CRT' is real advice is because of just that.

[lyric hatch]

Also the alt tab "issue" in modern games can be addressed with turning borderless windowed on, or just waiting the 1-2 seconds it takes longer

[trim crane]

its not modern or retro

its 2013

[distant tapir]

CS:GO?

[trim crane]

nop

i think im gonna get curbstomped if anyone hears the game

[distant tapir]

Ratz Instagibs?

[trim crane]

what

[lyric hatch]

Geometry dash?

[distant tapir]

Still shocked that it's alive.

Although that's a game where MPRT motion blur is super noticeable at least.

120 Hz OLED on it looks awful to me. So eyestrainy and blurry.

Idk how many frames the game can run it.

[trim crane]

yes

unfortunately

but i love the game

[distant tapir]

I beat clubstep on my Samsung Galaxy S3. Slow screen with lots of lag. 😎

[trim crane]

the game I always come bacj to

[lyric hatch]

I believe you can bypass the normal fps limit and max out at 360fps in geometry dash

[trim crane]

i was just playing shitty slaughterhouse on my phone lol

unfortunately because of 2.2 you need PHYSICS BYPASS to DISPLAY more than 240 because thebgame is hard locked to 240TPS

which means yeah you can render 1 million fps buy see only 240

[distant tapir]

You're just coming up with reason after reason to get a CRT instead.

[trim crane]

so I play at 360TPS despite it being cheating, and play with click between frames so the game polls the same as the input device (60HE+ = 1k polling)

but colors

[exotic plinth]

Tick per seconds?

[trim crane]

ye

robs code seriously made it so the TPS has to match the Displayed FPS, completely unlinked from Rendered FPS

so the ingame FPS unlocker is completely useless

anyways I still wanna have the benefits of having a great OLED display for other things like media consumption, other games, gfx, all that good stuff

[lusty tide]

Are you doing a Velka build or something super small form factor?

[trim crane]

ptobably more like Ncase M2 sized or a bit smaller

[lusty tide]

i can't imagine the price on an ITX motherboard with CAMM2 slots

[trim crane]

i like the fact that you do not need a riser

[lusty tide]

N2 is a really nice case tho

[trim crane]

i would glaze that

[lusty tide]

yeah fs

[trim crane]

also CAMM2 sounds perfect for laptops and handhelds

[ashen spindle]

its where it comes from

dell made CAMM now laptops are getting camm2/lpcamm just like desktops

[whole axle]

When is camm 2 coming to desktop

Hopefully in the x870e boards

[lusty tide]

Some X870 boards already have the feature. The prices are kinda… insane though

[whole axle]

The boards aren’t out yet right?

Oh yeah September

[lusty tide]

I don’t expect CAMM2 to be widely available to consumers by even 2026. And the boards for X870 release when Ryzen 9000 series comes out

[whole axle]

Gotcha

[lusty tide]

Oh September my mistake

[whole axle]

I would upgrade to a camm2 board

[ashen spindle]

well the first boards shown with it are for arrow lake which isn't out yet, that will be Q4, if we get camm2 for zen5 launch we dont know yet

[whole axle]

Looks cool

Heard it has better performance too

[lusty tide]

Ahhh

[ashen spindle]

no its the same performance

[lusty tide]

Are there CAMM2 benchmarks

[ashen spindle]

its the same memory

[balmy vector]

Pancake memory

[ashen spindle]

but the memory itself can be pushed higher due to it, but for amd platforms thats not relevant for now while the memory controller cant keep up anyway

and for intel that is just for OC for now

but 6000MT ddr5 dimm vs 6000MT ddr5 camm2 is the same

[whole axle]

Well same memory but I heard since it’s closer to the board the latency is better

Or sum

[ashen spindle]

as I said above, that will lead to being able to make better ram but the same ram on either a dimm or a camm module performs the same

actual benefits wont be for the current desktop platforms so if you think it's futureproofing to get one now, that's also not really happening

[trim crane]

DDR4 and DDR5 performed the same in the early alderlake days

this is probably gonna be the same

[exotic plinth]

Camm is only good for laptops

[ashen spindle]

well no

[trim crane]

CAMM can be used for both

why not lol

[exotic plinth]

Eww camm looks horrible

[balmy vector]

Mmm pancakes

[ashen spindle]

ddr4/ddr5 is different memory standards, so that is a much much bigger difference than changing the way the memory is connected

[trim crane]

are you gonna eat CAMM2 memory because it reminds you of pancakes

[balmy vector]

Why not?

[trim crane]

fair

[ashen spindle]

camm is doing more for laptops yet but it is also good for desktops since it allows better signal integrity which will allow better/faster modules eventually and means prices can come down since you will end up using the same ram in all but servers

[trim crane]

Still I believe in CAMM2

[ashen spindle]

if you make laptop sodimms and desktop dimms vs just camm (simplified for this example) you cut down cost

which is one of the reasons why I definitely believe we get lpcamm2 for lpddr6 in the next generations

[trim crane]

it will be steep for early adopters with a promising future

[ashen spindle]

difference is that early adopters likely wont get any benefit

[trim crane]

plus it will make room for cool designs like getting ram from specific vendors will be easier, and then you can get the best heatsink design and slap it on, make it your own

no warranty voided

since its per part

[astral haven]

hopefully too we can later get much closer camms

distance from socket co camm is alot larger than it has to be just bc the socket wasnt designed to have memory right there

[ashen spindle]

yeah the current camm desigsn are just using current layouts and change the connector

thats why I dont think we see even 6400 camm2 without retimers and still need cudimms for that this gen

[trim crane]

i mean next time im upgrading is like what 5 years? 6?

so i have lots of time

[ashen spindle]

by that time I hope we just have lpcamm2 boards

[trim crane]

these discussions are getting so interesting

[fair gull]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/12/business/att-customers-massive-breach/index.html

gg

seems to be the week of leaked/stolen data

[whole axle]

I’m just waiting to build my new pc till the 9800x3d and x870e boards come out

So I got some waiting sigh

[ashen spindle]

grabbing that cpu too but just going to replace my 7800x3d, b650 does all I need so it's cheap haha

[whole axle]

I’m just gonna be an early adopter to the pcie5 GPU slot and the better power output ig

5090 I’m assuming will be pcie5

[ashen spindle]

nah

4090 isnt even close to maxing out gen4

[whole axle]

Hmm

Well either way I’m willing to pay extra for the boards

[ashen spindle]

like

half the lanes for the 4090 and you lose a whole 3% lmao

[whole axle]

Gonna be honest no clue what that means lol

[ashen spindle]

relative performance based on pcie generations

[whole axle]

So the pcie5 will be 103%

[ashen spindle]

lmao would be nice

but nah that means a 4090 on gen 3 in most games wont even lose fps

so gen5 is not going to be needed for a 5090

[whole axle]

I mean I think it’s kind of a thing like why not right?

They could charge more with it

[ashen spindle]

well because you could just save the money

[whole axle]

Yeah but if they add it they will make more money

[ashen spindle]

not really, if it needs to work with gen5 but doesnt add benefit you add costs for the card

when that isn't going to be something that causes people to buy them over something else

[whole axle]

I don’t think nividia really cares for saving us money

[lusty tide]

something like that doesn't need to be added to slowly evolve the market overtime too tho

[ashen spindle]

no I mean it saves them money

it's not free to make something validated for a higher pcie spec

[whole axle]

Well I know but I just figured they would charge more and nividia fan boys would make up for it lol

I guess we will see when they announce it in 2028

[ashen spindle]

they will just charge the same but not add gen5 support lol

[lusty tide]

like for example, there are use cases for CAMM2 and it saves costs for manufacturers and there is a use to it but gen 5 isn't something that's crazy needed

[ashen spindle]

nobody is going to say "well I would buy the 5090 but its only pcie gen4 so I wont"

[whole axle]

Yeah fair

Eh I’ll probably be getting the new magnetic air 7900xtx anyway

Idk why I care for the 5090 lol

[dawn yarrow]

https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2024/p3142r0.pdf

the postscript😭

c++ devs are trolling

[mint owl]

Man.. I have been going down the IEM rabbithole for the past couple days. I have tried some budget stuff and found a like more of a neautral or warm leaning sound, anyone have some reqs for me?

[bright briar]

i was thinking of getting IEM because headphones hurt my head after long gaming hours

hows your researching going?

[mint owl]

Pretty good, I bought some cheap ones just to get a feeling for what I like and didn't like

Directional audio in just about any of them are better than most gaming headsets lol

Comfort is of course subjective but I found them to be pretty comfy, just have to find the right tips etc.. Also I think some of the IEMs have a larger bore which can be fatiguing so all different things to consider

@bright briar

[bright briar]

fair enough i feel like ear buds would take away head pressure and jaw pressure but i heard wearing earbuds for long period of time can be bad if your room gets hot and could cause ear infections

[vagrant pagoda]

Speaker master race>headphone plebs

[lyric hatch]

If you live by yourself and never speak to people on discord I guess, ideally both for the right situations

[vagrant pagoda]

I use VoIP all the time

Have a good mic+stand, isn't an issue

But yeah I have my own house, not an apartment

[lyric hatch]

Not sure my gf would appreciate me blasting my music all day through the house

[mint owl]

I use speakers 80% of the time unless I'm sweating on FPS games lol

[vagrant pagoda]

She doesn't enjoy the same music?

We just use YouTube to play what ever in the living room for music

[lyric hatch]

some of the same music

[mint owl]

I think just maintain good hygiene, sterilze your IEMs and clean your ears regularly

[bright briar]

i have good hygiene but i appreciate your advice

[mint owl]

Nah man I didn't mean it like that lmao

I just see people saying they clear their inner ears like daily due to using IEMs

I never knew that was really a thing but I can see how having some plastic in your ears that lays on your desk all day might cause something

[final flame]

not really, most iem users just give them the normal wipedown
clean the tips with disinfectant when necessary, when you use iems often enough there's going to be less overall wax

[mint owl]

true

[lusty tide]

Moondrop has a bunch of neutral leaning sound signatures. Honestly, crinacle does a good job reviewing a bunch of IEMs and telling sound signatures

[supple salmon]

how can i add an insert key to my wooting keyboard?

[sharp badger]

Remap the key in Wootility

[supple salmon]

trying to figure out how to do it

[sharp badger]

Drag and drop

[supple salmon]

okay thank you

[sharp badger]

You can add Insert in other ways too like e.g. MT

[unkempt lake]

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1405008-instability-on-recent-intel-processors/

[supple salmon]

is anybody here really good with computers?

I need help reformatting my drives

I'm not sure how to do it and I definitely dont want to do it wrong

[halcyon moss]

It's making the rounds... Intel fucked uuuup

[lusty tide]

Intel threw a 3-1 lead against AMD the last 6 years

[thick elk]

Probably one of the studio's Wendell got data from. But damn.

[analog sinew]

including the one with the OS on it?

the non os ones you can just reformat from partition manager rq

the one with the os would require a reinstall. tho you can do that in one go, format and install from a bootable usb.

[dark knoll]

is there a way to make my new profile default whenever i turn my pc on ? it always switch to random profile and i have to manually switch to my profile when i turn my pc on

[sharp badger]

It loads the first profile always

So drag it to the top

[fair gull]

glad my x670e mobo has a signle pcie5 slot which is also the only slot actually wired up to be x16

[scenic thunder]

AT&T, Disney, and MSI so far lol. Lets see if we can't hit 4 major leaks in one week.

[wheat plume]

I may need to make a better Microsoft password

[ashen spindle]

most likely no

unless its along the lines of 12345

[wheat plume]

I also never get asked my password when I login to MS
It asks for the approval via the auth app

[ashen spindle]

why does that relate to how strong the password is

the only thing a strong or weak password matters for is some sort of bruteforce attack

doesnt matter for 2FA or leaks

[wheat plume]

I guess ..

[severe phoenix]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D7ZRXBY4 15% off coupon to boot to launch

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k
Related

[pale trellis]

Ticketmaster, Santander Bank, Anheuser-Busch, Allstate, Advance Auto Parts, Mitsubishi, Neiman Marcus, Progressive, and State Farm were previously named as potential victims in the Snowflake attack campaign.

AT&T is just the latest, there is more to come.

[unkempt lake]

Do you really need more cpu perf?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[unkempt lake]

give an example

[ashen spindle]

ff14

[fair gull]

and zotac

i might also upgrade cpu when new amd releases next year

ffxiv completely cpu bound for me

even in the benchmarks

[marsh glade]

9000 seriers but no 3D cache

"Fuck you, gamers" -AMD

[fair gull]

no we are waiting for the 9000x3d

series

and itll come

[marsh glade]

How to bungle a product launch 101: launch your least interesting version first so that by the time the cool stuff comes out, nobody gives a shit anymore

[ashen spindle]

nah

diy is the lowest marktshare, doesnt matter

[marsh glade]

Lowest marketshare but highest visibility and most clicks

AMD could use a publicity win

[ashen spindle]

and they get highest clicks once x3d is out once again

[fair gull]

doesnt matter of oem market runs well

[ashen spindle]

mark did you miss the last days of intel cpus literally dying non stop

they are winning hard in desktop publicity lol

[marsh glade]

Well to be fair, I've been saying that Intel is a dead company walking for literal years now

[ashen spindle]

its their only competition so what else do they need to win against

[marsh glade]

Not exactly a glowing opinion

[ashen spindle]

them as a company is different from their strongest market segment, consumer cpus

[sudden imp]

What was this all about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAE4NWoyMZk&pp=ygUMZ2FtZXJzIG5leHVz

I watched it and I’m still as confused as I was before watching

[ashen spindle]

last few gens of intel cpus are having more and more instability issues

root cause unknown so far

[sudden imp]

Thank you!

[marsh glade]

ChatGPT summary

[sudden imp]

That’s a really decent summary.

[sharp badger]

12700K i still doing fine but kinda wish that i'd waited for the 7800X3D but wanted a PC then and not wait half a year+ & didn't want to buy AM4 but can reuse the DDR5 i've got now for an AM5 build

[balmy vector]

i feel you

As a 12600k user

[fair gull]

i can just put in a 9000series prob into my mobo

[balmy vector]

Yeah

[sharp badger]

Yeah with a BIOS update

[pale sigil]

https://twitter.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1812052772436443221?t=XpdTKmbvlrPlD04J5KQFAw&s=19

Pirat_Nation 🔴 (@Pirat_Nation) on X

Disney has been hacked

1TiB of data stolen (unreleased projects, logins, images codes..)

Twitter · Jul 13, 2024, 9:13 AM

They leaked his 1password vault ouch

[analog sinew]

"our inside man got cold feet so now we dox him" yeah surely people will want to work with you in the future

[lime agate]

Unknown? Its easy, useless e cores and HT putting more stress into P cores and bam BSOD

[ashen spindle]

That’s just false

like for one it doesn't even cause BSOD in many cases

then for others it's doing it with all e cores off and if it was e cores and HT why is 12th gen basically not affected?

[lime agate]

13th and 14th and the upcoming 15th are all over clocked 12th gens

Even 12th gen is more superior with e off

[ashen spindle]

yeah no thats not even remotely true

15th gen is tile based and more like MTL/LNL

and not even called 15th gen

[lime agate]

15th gen is already confirmed to be on the same socket as before right? So it is

[ashen spindle]

no?

its confirmed to launch on a new socket

[steep creek]

yea 15th gen is using 1851 while previous ones are on lga 1700 afaik

[ashen spindle]

yup

[lime agate]

Then the leaks were false

[ashen spindle]

??? the leaks have been saying its a new gen since like over a year and even have known the exact pinout

thats from summer 22

[lime agate]

As far as I know that was meant for 16th cause intel is removing HT

[ashen spindle]

please clarify what you mean with 15th and 16th because those are not names intel is using

rpl-r is 14th and the next one is called core ultra so what do you mean with 15th and 16th

[lime agate]

The leaks bro

[ashen spindle]

no I'm asking what do you mean with 15th gen, which core is that

MTL? ARL?

[fickle ore]

How is it dead again when they've been investing into fabs the past 2 years and will invest a total of 100B+ over the next 3-5 years? Their design sucks and are dying (13xxx, 14xxx) because they use their 7nm node. Switching over to TSM node for the next couple gens until they take back node lead will likely solve the degradation issues as well.

Again I would agree with you if they had literally no plans at all going forward

Gaudi 3 was well received

Their software revenue is picking up and they're looking to grow from 0.2B to 1B in the next few years.

[ashen spindle]

lol

because they use their 7nm node
12th gen is same node and doesnt have the issues it seems

I would agree with you if they had literally no plans at all going forward
gaudi3 is the last line for gaudi xD then it just gets merged because its not worth keeping it

[lime agate]

This

[ashen spindle]

those are two different things, which one is 15th for you

[lime agate]

Im trying to find the leak holdon

But its mtl for sure i guess

[ashen spindle]

mtl was supposed to be the first one on lga1851 but that got canned so we never get it and just have arl on it now

so instead of MTL starting that socket it's coming out with ARL: later this year, the current socket is not getting either one of those

[sharp badger]

Or are you confusing the leaks with MLID? lol

[ashen spindle]

dont think even mlid got that wrong because it seemed obvious how this is going

[fickle ore]

Same node but higher temperature/voltage to keep up with AMD

[ashen spindle]

except the failures occur even on like 13700k at same/lower than a 12900k

[fickle ore]

if it was something they could fix they would have, can't fix shit node have to gamble with temp/volt related deg

[ashen spindle]

yeah but if it was just temp/voltage related that would likely be something we know for certain now

[fickle ore]

doubt it

them acknowledging it, or saying they knew of the issue before selling would open them to lawsuits

easier to just keep it under cover bc nobody is gonna spend time to confirm the cause

and move quick to new node

[ashen spindle]

if it was just temp related it wouldn't happen on the w680 workstaion boards since those all have lower limits

[fickle ore]

temp related doesnt need to be strictly temp, it can be temp at y volt, or temp at y volt over z time, or temp at z package material over y volt over t time

idk how w680 differs

bigger die?

[ashen spindle]

ECC support, IPMI and all that for workstation

and a max of 65 or 125W depending on which boards

at this point its simply too early to be certain what the issue is, just that we can be certain you aren't fixing it by just lowering memory speeds or capping other things off

and if it was just they pushed RPL too much over ADL we would not see 13700 skus have these issues

[fickle ore]

Just saying Intel cannot be dead company if they're investing billions into new shit. They have a lot of dead products now and they used to be dead a while ago. Now this investing might not amount to much but calling them dead is waay late.

[analog sinew]

intel will be kept alive by the gov if need be. They are the crucial supply of western made silicon

[fickle ore]

Yep

[analog sinew]

(not saying this is coming soon)

[fickle ore]

They will do everything it takes ot keep them afloat

their current cpus are a turd however

[ashen spindle]

IFS being a seperate entity means they could keep that and everything else dies

[fickle ore]

Yes

But Intel is the whole company

Owns 95% of Mobileye

5% of ARM

They may spin off other companies as well

[reef patrol]

Great way to do a giveaway. Provide a broken link 😄

[analog sinew]

what giveaway

[sharp badger]

Look at the other tab

[reef patrol]

Giveaway from the just released AMD upgrade video from LTT

[analog sinew]

ew ltt

[ashen spindle]

free loot is free loot

[analog sinew]

well yeah but who ever wins a giveaway

[sharp badger]

Not those who don't participate

[reef patrol]

Indeed. And for once it's open to Europe.
Takes a minute to get an entry. So in the one in a billion chance I win another 7800X3D, I ain't gonna complain. Not like I needed to sign up to something new.

[analog sinew]

well if you could enter that is :P

[sharp badger]

Oh wow 340 more entries!!! 😮

[analog sinew]

what a silly system

[sharp badger]

Log in each day for another chance 😉

[reef patrol]

They tend to go wild yeah. But one ticket is infinitely more than zero.

And that's all I'm going to do. Those initial four.

[analog sinew]

they can ligma balls for a chance to get my personal info

[quaint dew]

what no mobile data does to a mf

[vagrant pagoda]

If no data then how discord?

[quaint dew]

back home now

[iron wave]

Does anyone happen to know how to use the WDK in CLion?

[woven laurel]

install visual studio

I have no idea

😄

[iron wave]

Yeah but that's bad.

[ashen spindle]

post in #1019755933959733258

[fickle ore]

ya got any more of those links? I cant find it ;_;

[supple salmon]

im really just trying to rid cheats off of my computer

i factory reset my computer so i believe that has solved the issue

[whole axle]

Have you tried not doing it in the first place 💀💀💀

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-piccolo-dragon-ball-funny-as-hell-skill-issue-gif-21337105

[supple salmon]

no

[wheat plume]

Is this a good quality flac file??

It sounds really nice 💜 though I'm using wireless buds that only support AAC...

[ashen spindle]

you wont hear a difference anyway

[wheat plume]

Difference compared to what?

[ashen spindle]

to flac

[wheat plume]

Vs mp3??

[ashen spindle]

didnt you just say you hear it via AAC

[wheat plume]

Would it be worth getting earbuds that support LDAC or AptX HD?

[ashen spindle]

go to a store and try it

[wheat plume]

I hate doing that because I can't choose the music

[ashen spindle]

well cant find it out otherwise

[wheat plume]

Yeah...

[reef patrol]

EU 14 day return baby

[halcyon moss]

You'll be testing the buds, not the codec. Aac is good. Hell modern sbc is great

[wheat plume]

Oh really?!

[halcyon moss]

I'll repost it again
http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-sbc-xq-bluetooth-audio-codec

[lusty tide]

lol what game did u install cheats for

[severe phoenix]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/warframe-devs-report-80-percent-of-game-crashes-happen-on-intel-overclockable-core-i9-chips

https://content.invisioncic.com/Mwarframe/monthly_2024_07/nvgpucomp64.dllcrashes.png.4a8d5497d37d35c7d88cc44ab1ced9e3.png

[gusty mauve]

how is this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xdYKRK

[final flame]

you could fit more fans in there to get more airflow in that case

it fits 10 120mm fans

and personally I would go with all nvme based storage, it's just simpler nowadays, and there isn't much price difference

Single 4tb nvme drive comes out to cheaper than the 2 different ssd's you have in there and it performs better @gusty mauve

would also check to see if LianLi sells a 3 pack of the reverse blades, it's a little cheaper that way

[unkempt lake]

Why a 7950x3d

Do you do actual productivity

[sharp badger]

https://gleam.io/6O7Ln/linus-tech-tips-and-amd-gaming-red-team-win-one-of-three-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-cpu Everything should be here 👀

Quite a lot of entries already lol

[analog sinew]

dont you have to divide that by like several hundred

[reef patrol]

Or more, yeah.

[supple salmon]

r6

lol so easy to not get banned off that game its actually comedic

game is in its worst state ever

[fair gull]

ah yes inflating entries by unnecessarily multiplying how many you get for a task

[still loom]

maybe just get better instead of cheating 🙂

[fair gull]

unless you wanna do productivity tasks like rendering or compiling massive codebases or such id go with a 7800x3d for gaming

although i guess if you constantly change the core affinity each time you start a game you could get the same performance as a 7800x3d in games

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeE_gLl3j94

finally we're back to digging into this garbage company

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dial-dialup-internet-gif-10475099

We already covered this 😄

[frozen ingot]

my bad, I missed the meeting

[marsh glade]

Unbelievable

We even sent a telegram!

[frozen ingot]

clearly I need faster dial-up

[analog sinew]

what is it with hw companies leaking all the warranty stuff

[whole axle]

Bro all these companies need to chill

I can’t keep switching my motherboard in pcpartpicker

[iron wave]

They all suck just pick one.

I have a 5900X and I'm pretty happy with it.

The only problem is the lack of PCI-e lanes but I knew that was a limitation of AM4/AM5.

[analog sinew]

yeah at this point theyre all shit

[iron wave]

It goes back to the "if you never purchase from a company that did something bad you'll never purchase anything" thing.

[smoky frigate]

what can you do, not buy anything? that's hardly an option

I hear good stuff about ASRock for what it's worth

[ashen spindle]

as in the EU my first RMA step would be with the store not the company anyway

doesnt really concern me and I care more about the product itself

[whole axle]

I mean asrock is what I got in there rn

Might just say F it and add a case company in there. Nzxt motherboard here I come

At least it looks good 😂😂

[ashen spindle]

they just take someone elses and add their logo on it though

[whole axle]

Ye it’s an asrock board

At least the b550

Was

[iron wave]

Imagine EVGA.

Also imagine having more PCI-e without needing a HEDT or server platform.

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[whole axle]

Just need me XFX motherboard

[iron wave]

Is TR still stuck on Zen 2? I thought there was a Zen 4 one...

[ashen spindle]

there is zen4 TR

[iron wave]

Huh....

[ashen spindle]

dont think pcpartpicker includes xeon or TR platforms

[ashen spindle]

goes up to the 7995WX

96 cores for like 10 grand

https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-linux-threadripper-pro-7995wx

its 2 chipsets now though, trx50 for the regular one and wrx90 for threadripper pro

[iron wave]

Weird that it isn't on PC Part Picker.

[vagrant pagoda]

Pcpartpicker isn't good, it gets stuff wrong all the time

[sharp badger]

Mainly use pcpartpicker as an overview, usually gather the more detailed stuff from the homepages of products

Also i dislike Mobo pages that don't have a quick overview e.g. MSI X670E could just make a simple picture at the top

Just make it like this so one can have a quick overview and then go into tech specs for the more detailed stuff

[balmy vector]

Hate when i have to scroll for 1000 years to find the info i want in there

[analog sinew]

urgh yeah and those fancy animated scrollsites

[balmy vector]

Yep

[sharp badger]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X670E-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI/Overview This it ain't bad but compared to the picture above it's just meh

[analog sinew]

INSANE GAMING PERFORMANCE (USELESS OVERCLOCK FEATURE YOU WILL NEVER USE)

[balmy vector]

PERFECT YOUR COOLING (shows VRMs)

[analog sinew]

like, cool that you have 2x8pin EPS power delivery

now what is that good for without LN2 idk

no radiator nor chip can just take 500W

next intel gen maybe

[balmy vector]

Dont think, just buy

[frozen ingot]

audiophile grade wima capacitors

the fuck does that even mean

[analog sinew]

audiophile = expensive for no reason :p

[balmy vector]

[sharp badger]

https://www.wima.de/en/ Hmm? dunno if they're good or not

[frozen ingot]

no I mean its just marketing snakeoil

[sharp badger]

Yeah but still give a quick overview and i'll be happy

[smoky frigate]

sprinkle it with holy water and it'll work better, trust me

no testing required!

[analog sinew]

that sentence makes no sense

ofc it is in the production?

[marsh glade]

Quality is defined as the adherence to specification, and quality assurance measures the standard deviation within any given manufacturing process to determine if a given characteristic falls inside or outside of critical control limits.

[golden elk]

Hello i need help

[crimson wigeon]

Then just ask away

[umbral heron]

Hmm... Will 700W PSU be enough for 7950X3D + 6700XT? That way I could wait with buying a new PSU until buying a new GPU

[ashen spindle]

yes

its like 200W for either on full load which only happens on weird work stuff that somehow maxes out both

so add the rest of the pc and we are like idk 500w powerdraw

[exotic plinth]

Should be.

[umbral heron]

Alright then, mobo should arrive tomorrow, RAM is already here, and CPU I'll order sometime next week once they'll pay me for overtime

[vagrant pagoda]

Dual 8 helps with transients

[iron wave]

I have a 750 with a 4090. :V

[ashen spindle]

same!

[unkempt lake]

Hey that's my motherboard!

[balmy vector]

can i eat it?

[sharp badger]

Are all MSI mobo pages like that? 😅

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X670E-GODLIKE The godlike scrolling™️

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-mouse-scrolling-mouse-scroll-canned-air-logitech-gif-20346749

[sharp badger]

Such an amazing feature

[vagrant pagoda]

I miss tilt scroll

[sharp badger]

MX Master would be nice might get the next version

[digital cliff]

I really hate the no-feedback scrollwheel

[analog sinew]

for when you have to really scroll the memes

[digital cliff]

when you turn the click on it feels like crap and when you free it you can't control it at all

[zenith silo]

ive only had 1 mouse with it

was an awesome feature

[vagrant pagoda]

Yep

The no feed back is nice for things that have analog scroll instead of steps

Like zoom

[umbral heron]

It's nice for scrolling logs up and down when it's early Monday morning and you forgot you can use PgUp/PgDn for this

And I had to fix my poor G502, middle button was not as much clicky anymore ;-;

[analog sinew]

i have that mouse but i never use the tilt scroll

kinda forgot it existed

[vagrant pagoda]

Idk why it's not more common

Id trade the wheel for a clit mouse any day

Or a pov hat

[umbral heron]

I much more prefer Shift/Alt+scroll than tilt scroll tbh
Usually feedback on tilt scroll is terrible

[hasty thunder]

middle click and point your mouse down or up?

that way you don't need any scroll keys

[steep creek]

i might have made a mistake

[umbral heron]

Have you updated systemd?

[steep creek]

going to try that

[smoky frigate]

oh shit oh fuck

[nimble canopy]

i remember that happening when my hdd with my home partition died

[marsh pewter]

that doesn’t look good

[umbral heron]

Eh, just init soiled its pants, nothing weird

[steep creek]

think it’s fine just gotta try some things

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/xhZUhttuLsU

Tesla TV?!

[umbral heron]

Tesla TV? 24/7 streams of Musk and Trump?

[wheat plume]

:') lol imagine

Android 11 LOL

[sharp badger]

https://www.amazon.com/TESLA-Smartphone-Expandable-Resistant-64MP-16MP/dp/B0CTBNRJ7G/ref=sr_1_2

[wheat plume]

its just AOSP Android 11

why not 14?!

[sharp badger]

Lol

[wheat plume]

:')

[sharp badger]

They do have quite a few products

[wheat plume]

such confidence inspiring /S

[shadow minnow]

I have two Tesla turntables from 90s

Now the factory makes pro-ject tables

[whole axle]

Idk if this counts for TikTok but T-Mobile is really pissing me off rn

[lyric hatch]

https://youtu.be/eUzbNNhECp4

Love a good buildzoid rant

[fair gull]

what pearless assassin was a good budget option?

120SE?

[ashen spindle]

they are all kinda the same

some are just not budget in some regions