🔌│tech

[pale sigil]

That and drowsy

[unkempt lake]

i mean makes time go faster

[random girder]

Are there any other double movement softwares you might know about ? @smoky fractal

[unkempt lake]

because it knocks you out

when in pain being knocked out is good

[pale sigil]

It definitely isn't knocking me out that much XD

[smoky fractal]

no, but you can ask in #1019723042244534282 to see if anyone else does

[analog sinew]

the biggest scam is valium

[unkempt lake]

idk i tried playing resident evil village while on morphine

[analog sinew]

it was good for about once for an hour

after that it was hell

[unkempt lake]

i stared at the main menu for like 2 hours

without realizing

i think i had fallen asleep

[pale sigil]

It's different for everyone.

[unkempt lake]

then again it felt like i had a drill going through my skull

[umbral heron]

Not currently working ones, Epic basically implemented their version in the game and broke other methods with last season update

[pale sigil]

People on my bay are saying it makes them very out of it and some people even say it just eases them but for me it's mainly constipation and drowsy.

[unkempt lake]

it made me hella constipated

[pale sigil]

I had my head cup open and parts of my skull removed :p

I'm aware how good it can be

Not today, but in the past oops

[unkempt lake]

honestly when the whole side of my face was swollen to shit i wish they coulda cut open my skull

lol

[hearty harness]

guys i just bought a 7800x3d with a 4070 ti super and i have this cpu cooler (Nfortec SCULPTOR X) already at home brand new, is it good enough?

[pale sigil]

Morphine definitely does wonders when you're in agony.

Better be out of it than in pain, however I'm not in that sort of pain and on a low dosage.

[unkempt lake]

probably fine worst case just run the cpu in eco mode

and upgrade the cooler later

i say give it a try

[unkempt lake]

understandable

then

[hearty harness]

isnt 220W tdp enough?

[unkempt lake]

i just took a quick look

saw a basic tower cooler should be plenty

you can tweak things if somehow it doesn't work out

[hearty harness]

i dont understand this :c

[analog sinew]

tdp is a made up number thats really hard to quantify

[hearty harness]

oh

[unkempt lake]

this

[hearty harness]

i mean the cooler i have looks like any other 2x120mm right?

what differnce can they have?

[unkempt lake]

heatpipes

soldered/not soldered

how many

what material

[hearty harness]

ohh

[analog sinew]

yeah

[unkempt lake]

the quality of the fans

[analog sinew]

but it should work

[unkempt lake]

^^

most likely

worst case

[analog sinew]

just might not give the best cooling in heavy load

[unkempt lake]

its just a cooler

easy swap

[hearty harness]

i mean if it also depends on the other cooling (case) i got a
Corsair 3000D RGB AIRFLOW

[hearty harness]

if that ends up happening should i go for liquid cooling or air?

[unkempt lake]

air

but that's just my preference

a good aircooler will last you a lifetime<

no pump to think about

just plain old fans

[hearty harness]

true

ive heard that liquid last less time

[unkempt lake]

noctua is making a new gen of the d15 soon

but im sticking with my old u12a

[sharp badger]

Well the NH-D15 G2 should release this month

Could potentially get a few coolers for cheaper like the Thermalright or DeepCool which would be good enough for most people

[hasty thunder]

didn't hear much about the G2... Probably because it's not a significant improvement

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDDxYlkp-_A Would want to see testing be done from more sources

[unkempt lake]

noctua does give you free mounting tho

[sharp badger]

Sure but the NH-D15 G2 also have a few variants depending on ones CPU

AK620 or Peerless Assassin 120 is usually good enough and quite a good price for most people

[pale sigil]

As a noctua fanboy and after using the peerless assassin I can't go back.

The value is just insanely good on alternatives

[sharp badger]

Yes, Thermalright have quite good performance/price atm. also they're releasing a lot of coolers

[analog sinew]

i wish i was cooler

[sharp badger]

You are cool™️

[gusty kiln]

The arctic freezer 3 might convert to water cooling

[rough osprey]

its nice

although i dont like the mount and the tubes are pretty stiff

[unkempt lake]

im finally

ready

to play a game

WHAT DO I PLAY FIRST???

[balmy vector]

Elden ring

[steep creek]

satisfactory

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/the-slug-slug-satisfactory-very-humorous-gif-26338706

Love those slugs

[steep creek]

saame, overclocking saves me too much space

[balmy vector]

Been a while since i played it

[rough osprey]

minecraft with shaders

[zenith silo]

MC with shaders + terralith world gen mod

Is beautiful

[umbral heron]

[gusty kiln]

Banana

[unkempt lake]

actually i took a break to relax

now i play

xd

[zenith silo]

The place I'm building with this mod has this massive cherry blossom biome tucked into a bunch of huge mountains/cliffs

[unkempt lake]

this shit gave me a headache

[zenith silo]

Very nice looking

[unkempt lake]

also some games needed validation

for some reason

all the ones on one specific drive

[zenith silo]

Can send screenshots soon

[umbral heron]

I had this one seed for vanilla where there was cherry blossom biome in a shape of volcano, with spawners and villages nearby

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-homelander-the-boys-gif-26742279

This one 1691256543523180978 X=12086 Z=1487

[zenith silo]

Damn that's vanilla

That's sick

[umbral heron]

Also this one https://www.reddit.com/r/minecraftseeds/comments/14ddy4z/villages_in_the_crater_of_the_cherry_grove_biome/

[unkempt lake]

im very happy

with my upgrade

now that all my issues are fixed lol

[gusty kiln]

nice

you are all AMD now

[unkempt lake]

yep

helldivers 2 got a MASSIVE performance boost

so did horizon in the DLC area

and forza motorsports is really cpu intensive when running over 60 fps

made it actually playable above it now

without stutters

also boot times have gotten better now

after like

a lot of reboots

it seems to have gotten a bit faster

still slower than i would like

[balmy vector]

[little silo]

Anyone have any idea why my computer is crashing?

I was having an issue where my computer was having a CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED BSOD, amongst others

[modest hamlet]

turn it off and check ALL connections

[little silo]

I did a hard reset and it's still doing the same thing.

[little silo]

Like which ones?

[modest hamlet]

make sure EVERY thing is seating correctly

[little silo]

I might have to do that. Fuck.

[modest hamlet]

Its good to do and also you get to know your hardware better

just make sure to have good light

turn off PSU and unplugg before

[little silo]

Everything that can go fucking wrong today, is going wrong lol. This is fucked.

[modest hamlet]

I cant know where you are (in life) but Im pretty sure your are doing ok in the grand scheme of things.

You remember to eat and drink water today?

I forget sometimes

speaking of which

https://tenor.com/view/cat-corn-ungry-hungry-eating-corn-gif-7897761002079597507

[little silo]

Yeah I'm doing fine, just pretty annoyed.

[modest hamlet]

cool

be sure to use ESD strap or touch metal to discharge static

https://tenor.com/view/opening-pc-lain-using-gif-20747153

dont wanna

https://tenor.com/view/lain-serial-experiments-lain-glowing-flowing-hair-sad-gif-24896447

[little silo]

lol

I'll see.

[unkempt lake]

Check temps run stress test

[modest hamlet]

Then mobo Bios? maybe?

[little silo]

I can replicate the crash every time that I load up CS2. Task Manager isn't showing anything strange. The only thing I notice is that RAM usage spikes up to 8 gigabytes. I don't know if that's normal or not.

[unkempt lake]

run DDU

check if your drivers are up to date

[little silo]

Funny that when I try to record the crash, all of a sudden it runs perfectly. What the fuck is going on today?

I can't fucking deal with this shit.

I'm running the program now.

[little silo]

How do I know which driver I need to install?

[unkempt lake]

game ready

if you game

studio if you do productivity

[wheat plume]

Imagine if song lyrics on YouTube Music has the same level of censorship required as a typical YouTube video does....

Basically 90% of songs would be demonitized

Especially ones with swear words in the name like this xd

New songs now can't have anything not family friendly in the first 30 seconds to match with YouTube video guidelines
😅
Most songs would be fucked

[reef patrol]

Whaaaat - Youtube enforcing policies in a sensible and logical manner?

[wheat plume]

Youtube Music would lose its already tiny music streaming platform marketshare

There were rumours Google are going to kill YT Music app after they let the dev team for it go...

but that doesnt make sense, cause they killed Google Podcasts recently also and merged it with YT Music, so surely they wont?! right?!

[rough osprey]

pls kill it and then make yt premium cheaper :D

[wheat plume]

Nah, I cant use Spotify cause a lot of the songs in my playlist arent on there.... and I dont want to use Youtube for music streaming cause that pulls down the video and all the other shit too

[rough osprey]

😬

[reef patrol]

Spotify supports local music btw. You CAN just download stuff.

[wheat plume]

Yeah, but the metadata of my local music collection sucks for songs that arent on spotify cause its only got the low res youtube thumbnail as album art

[rough osprey]

change your music taste

[wheat plume]

no xd

https://youtu.be/PaWyhs16NOs

[wheat plume]

🤔 This malware is checking what language packs you have installed on your system

did they localise the malware for multiple languages ?! xd

[analog sinew]

probably? it would make it much more effective

[wheat plume]

I also heard that a lot of Russian made malware will check if you have the Russian language pack installed and stop the virus from running xd

idk if thats true or not though

[fair gull]

i wouldnt trust that information even in the slightest

[wheat plume]

yeah same, idk how true that is XD

[halcyon moss]

It sounds plausible though

[iron wave]

Does someone have a grammer for Markdown?

[halcyon moss]

Markdown has lots of dialects

[iron wave]

I just want the "correct" one that matches the website.

[fair gull]

depends on which markdown ye

which website

[iron wave]

https://www.markdownguide.org/

[halcyon moss]

That sounds like the grammar to me!

[fair gull]

should work for most standard markdown

just not all markdown lol

[iron wave]

Was there a grammer on that?

[fair gull]

what the heck is a grammer

heres a comparison of just some markdown flavors https://gist.github.com/vimtaai/99f8c89e7d3d02a362117284684baa0f

then you have weird outliers like Slack and discord which technically are markdown but super cutdown and with custom extensions

there just is no one markdown

[iron wave]

https://craftinginterpreters.com/representing-code.html

[fair gull]

oh grammar not grammer

[reef patrol]

What the heck is "a grammar"

[fair gull]

https://pgrandinetti.github.io/compilers/page/what-is-a-programming-language-grammar/

this extends into interpreted things like javascript, markdown and markup and such

many markdown especially down have any well defined grammar whitepapers and just have a list of things they allow you to put for headings and other features. they dont include if lists can be headings and what not which a grammar would strictly define

the most common place people run into grammars is prob RFCs since they specify very detailed on how the grammar is layed out if it needs to be for an RFC

things like this which then in later subpoints explain what subexpressions like scheme and such are and how their grammar needs to be structured

[iron wave]

So it's pretty much "make your own".

[fair gull]

for markdown? yes

anyone and everyone can just make it up and extend it as they please

most companies like discord dont have concrete specifications in whitepapers on how their extensions work

id guesstimate that most use CommonMark as their base https://commonmark.org/

[iron wave]

I'm just barely getting into this stuff so I was hoping for something more concrete.

[fair gull]

commonmark has solid grammar but you wont find any universal markdown grammar that works in every service that claims to support markdown

[iron wave]

I'm writing my own parser.

[fair gull]

i imagine if you stick to common mark youll cover 99% of most users usecases

and you can always add specific ones like slack, discord, discount and whatever else people name their flavours

[iron wave]

I guess when I get done with my IRL stuff I'll just have to try to come up with my own and write a recursive decent parser off of that.

[fair gull]

but yeah if i were you id implement commonmark and then see if its missing something super obvious you want to be able to parse

[iron wave]

I guess it's good practice to make a grammar for this anyway.

[indigo leaf]

i just tried to update my keyboard now its not working can anyone help

currently on a old keyboard

[iron wave]

Uhm, #1019755933959733258 ?

markdown -> header | text
header -> (#{1,6} \s+ text \n) |
    (text \n (={2,} | -{2,}))
text -> [\s\]S+?

So I suppose it would be something like this for just the headers?

[weary dirge]

I just got one

for anyone interested the Zaunkoenig M3K can now be purchased again, I just bought one

[iron wave]

Huh.

[analog sinew]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQw5djIaIAA5Tt7?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

lol

[modest hamlet]

Killing YT music would suck. I had the 3 month trial of TIDAL and even though the quality was superb I couldn't find any of the music I wanted. the only other place I have look is yt music and I have found most of the music I want to listen to even though some of its isn't the greatest of quality. Id rather rent a giant tape collection then a small record collection.

[iron wave]

I really wish that I could talk in my normal programming channel.

[modest hamlet]

the meme channel is just a click away...

[iron wave]

That can't be real.

[iron wave]

Nah, some stuff happened.

[modest hamlet]

poopy

[iron wave]

This probably has some pretty large, glaring errors but I would like someone to look it over anyway. It is based off of this webpage.

[fickle ore]

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/solar-panel-home-theoretical-limit/3318/

[fair gull]

have others replicated the result yet?

[fickle ore]

I mean sure, higher efficiency exists, but this is related to commercial scale progress I think

[fair gull]

all i saw was a uni made it and published a paper. nothing about reproducability and thus legitimacy of this

[fickle ore]

this was already in 2017

perovskite is good for commercialization

A commercial 30% panels would be huge

[fair gull]

great that the article doesnt mention any of that

[fickle ore]

Yeah its kinda hype article

Commercial panels are currently maxing out at 27 % or so efficiency wise

Above are high cost / NASA stuff

[sudden imp]

Charts, thats terrifying

[pale sigil]

People shouldn't own tech

[umbral heron]

Should of

[stray loom]

@exotic plinth

it just swings no matter what i do unless I keep it in that certain spot

[sudden imp]

rip

I don't think their standard one will be any better

[stray loom]

its always done that since i got it

[sudden imp]

I don't think your floor being unlevel should effect it like that.

so I have no clue why it would do that.

[stray loom]

@exotic plinth does urs do that

[exotic plinth]

Rma, because mine would go 90 degress without problem

[stray loom]

whats rma

[exotic plinth]

I mean sent it to warranty

It look like defect

[stray loom]

yeah seems like it I got it from best buy I was looking at just getting a different one if they were all like that but idk which ones are good

[exotic plinth]

You got it new or from return

[stray loom]

new

[exotic plinth]

Try sending it to warranty

[exotic plinth]

Your clamp is not fully in

[stray loom]

? wdym

omg

I fixed it

thats been annoying the shit out of me for months

u mentioned the clasp so I unclasped it, moved it back on the desk so it would be on my metal piece instead of deeper onto the glasses and that made it more level so I tightened it all the way and now it stays when I move it

thanks lol

@exotic plinth

that was a daily struggle

[exotic plinth]

I could see it trough table

[stray loom]

legend

[exotic plinth]

Yeah like 3-5cm gap

So no wonder

[iron wave]

Does anyone know how to get nginx to function with HTTP PUT?

I can't seem to make it work, everything returns 404.

[unkempt lake]

Just put my old 9700k in nico's rig

To replace his 9400f

Its reunited with my old 2080 lol

[latent mural]

computer

[rough osprey]

correct

[umbral heron]

Windows was utterly confused why I want to install .Net Framework 2.0
I love proprietary legacy software

IT WANTS WEP WI-FI

Piece of crap old printer

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Tis a nice combo

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle are there any actual benchmarks for the snapdragon laptops?

[median mirage]

[wheat plume]

MacOS Sequoia FINALLY SUPPORTS WINDOW TILING

you can snap windows to half or each of the 4 corners

[umbral heron]

Meanwhile KDE

[wheat plume]

yyeh :D

every other desktop since decades did that

Nice Bliss wallpaper...xxdd

"Apple Intelligence" barely runs on macs with only 8GB RAM, which means that maybe the next range will have to start at 16GB, right?!

Or will Apple pull the "No AI for you unless you get more RAM for 200 dollars per 8GB extra" route?

[steep creek]

not sure because it runs just fine on m# ipads and 15 pro and above. haven’t looked into if mac’s have any special features touch devices don’t get however

but also “no ai for you” is real, it’s illegal in the eu

[wheat plume]

🤔 ooofff

Sequioa

Sequoia

this word is gonna give so many people a hard time to spell

There are so many defending the 8GB RAM in the comments

The iPhone 15 Pro only has 8GB and it runs the AI just fine

If Apple made it struggle to run on 8GB RAM, most of their users would be angry at them and they wont want that

This is the same company that accused iPhone users of holding their phones incorrectly back when the iPhone 5 had data signal issues due to the antennea being where your hand is when holding it

So no, making it run badly on 8GB ram is probably intentional so that people upgrade to a newer laptop

[steep creek]

perhaps, guess we will find out when reviews come out

[wheat plume]

🤔

[iron wave]

Sounds about right.

Though you'd think the 8Gb modules would be cheaper at this point.

[wheat plume]

Probably, its the new baseline for everyone else

[steep creek]

honestly i'd like to see 16 as the new baseline for computers but maybe a while until that happens

[wheat plume]

With Apple, it will probably happen by 2040 or some shit

They are still going on about how 8GB RAM on Mac is the same as 16GB on Windows

[steep creek]

yea that article was funny to read

[iron wave]

You guys know that 8Gb is only 1GB right?

[wheat plume]

8gb macs make so much use of the swap space
and the base model of mac have only half the SSD Speed of the upgraded models...so not only are you use the swap more than 16 or higher, but its twice as slow as 16 or higher models

[iron wave]

While not entirely wrong because Windows isn't super efficient, it does seem like a lot of the baseline memory usage Windows reports is from disk cache stuff and *nix generally doesn't report that as being in use from my experience.

[wheat plume]

Their claim is not totally incorrect, but its more like 8GB Mac is similar to 10GB Windows maybe

that seems more accurate

[iron wave]

I could see the argument on Linux for some workloads.

Especially server stuff because Windows forces a UI.

Though OSX server does too.

[steep creek]

to be fair macs tend to swap quite a bit, even if you have memory available. i remember on my 18gig mac while i often had serveral gbs free it used swap

[iron wave]

That's very silly.

[steep creek]

it is

[iron wave]

Windows does it a little bit IIRC, not sure about Linux.

[wheat plume]

You can change that value in Linux, can you do that on Mac too?

to make it use less swap

[steep creek]

also for example when i had safari open with just one tab it'd "use" as much memory as it could. but technically safari isnt that memory hungry

[iron wave]

I haven't had dwap enabled on my Linux desktops.

You can change it on Windows too.

[wheat plume]

swappiness

fun word

[iron wave]

Oh that.

You can on Linux, no idea on the others.

I thought you meant the total size.

[steep creek]

seems to me m# macs rely a lot more on swap than the x86 ones, tho i might be remembering wrong

i dont think you can adjust swap size on macos

[wheat plume]

Whats the base RAM usage on MacOS now?

Like, you boot up the MacBook and login to the desktop and just let it sit there

How much does it use before you open anything you want to open

[steep creek]

technically its lower than it shows in activity monitor, but it just likes to use as much memory as possible

[wheat plume]

hmm

[steep creek]

safari with one tab for example used some 12 gigs but the browser doesnt actually need that much

[old marlin]

so same as windows

[steep creek]

yea kinda

[old marlin]

I swear linux people never get that

[wheat plume]

its so stupid that Chrome doesnt have touchpad gesture support

cant two finger swipe left or right to go back or forward pages

Firefox FTW

shows a little arrow too when the gesture is activated :D

[steep creek]

windows laptops have this feature

[wheat plume]

on Chrome?

[steep creek]

yes

[iron wave]

Two fingers is for zooming?

[vagrant pagoda]

Had a weird issue where dark mode stopped working on Google last week with FF

[iron wave]

Sounds like a Google feature.

[fair helm]

wdym we do get it

[vagrant pagoda]

It's just that people can't read beyond the first memory usage number. All 3 OS's will show you total memory, as well as the reserved

Linux just shows reserved first by default

And Mac and windows dont

[iron wave]

The Linux one is the most correct.

:V

[astral haven]

its absolutely atrocious in windows explorer, because for some reason microsoft decided the levels of zoom would be this bs, so 2 finger zoom swaps through all these options

[iron wave]

It's always been that way.

[astral haven]

yea but pinch to zoom isnt the same as ctrl+ scroll wheel in any of the browsers including edge

[iron wave]

That's just Chrome anyway.

[little silo]

happens

[astral haven]

and all other chromium browsers

[iron wave]

Yeah it's pretty bad.

I want GEF.

[thick elk]

*Insert it's all chrome in the future meme

[wheat plume]

And scrolling to the last or previous page in web browser

[astral haven]

yep, works on both touchpad and touchscreen

[fierce terrace]

is someone here that knows a lil bit about aio coolers?

im about to buy a 360mm

and my acoustic friend is trying to tell me that i will need to dry pump and change coolant once every 2 years

[iron wave]

Acoustic?

[fierce terrace]

yea

[iron wave]

Like they play guitar?

[fierce terrace]

so... anyone knows if its true or hes casually 🧢🧢

[astral haven]

is the aio for
A) Appearance
B) performance

[fierce terrace]

B)

[astral haven]

intel or amd cpu

[fierce terrace]

amd

[astral haven]

buy a tower cooler

[iron wave]

For maintenance they shouldn't be anything more than cleaning, but check the manual. They'll need maintenance/replacement eventually but it's not once every 0.5 years.

Air cooling is still pretty viable unless you're doing crazy junk or maybe if you have the absolute top of the line like a maxed out Threadripper.

[fierce terrace]

cleaning you mean screwing the shit down and refilling coolant or just changing paste

[iron wave]

Blowing the dust out of the rad and off of the fans.

[fierce terrace]

im about to change the processor and buying aio for the future upgrade i suppose

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-cooling-requirements-thermal-throttling/images/fan-scaling-noctua.png

amd doesnt seem to want to make furnaces, and their current chips dont need aios

[fierce terrace]

everywhere where i go i see that i shouldnt change the coolant unless the warranty comes off

[astral haven]

get aio if you want looks

[distant tapir]

I personally love how the brown and silver Noctua aircoolers look. 👍

[iron wave]

You really don't have to worry about the coolant for at least 5 years, once it starts making a gurgling noise you can top some of them off but that's about it.

[astral haven]

and if you mount your aio properly, even that shouldnt happen

[iron wave]

It'll just take much longer.

[astral haven]

long enough for the pump to die which is usually why most aios die

[iron wave]

Honestly just go with an air cooler, less to go wrong and much cheaper.

[astral haven]

spend the money instead on better ram

[fierce terrace]

already got the one of better rams

even tho was considering noctua

[astral haven]

unless you got threadripper, i wouldnt even bother with noctua

[fierce terrace]

but in the tests its throttling at high loads

[astral haven]

on your cpu?

[iron wave]

Also what tests?

[fierce terrace]

im not mainly buying aio for my 7800x3d but also for the future upgrade

[astral haven]

you will not be purchasing a 225w amd cpu

[iron wave]

That's an awful chart.

[astral haven]

for intel it would have been useful

but you have amd

[iron wave]

It could drop a single clock bin and it gets DQed....

[astral haven]

that is not how tpu tests it

they use hardware measured power usage, and wait until that drops to count as throttling

[iron wave]

A little better but still weird.

[astral haven]

the current hottest amd chip is the 7950x, and that one averages 90w in game, 128w in applications

https://tpucdn.com/review/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-evo-argb-cpu-air-cooler/images/maximum-heat-amd.png

and here is where the coolers throttle

even the worst cooler has plenty of overclocking headroom

[iron wave]

Oh so that was even OCed?

[astral haven]

obviously

[fierce terrace]

ok but how does nh-d15 performs in noise levels

[iron wave]

A very silly test it seems.

[fierce terrace]

in comparison to nucleus

[astral haven]

why do you say that?

[iron wave]

Just doesn't sound particularly useful.

[astral haven]

?

[iron wave]

I have some deep cool thing myself, but that's not really an option now.

[astral haven]

you look up the watts of your cpu (real watts not tdp bs)

and then you look up the graph of the cooler

you then get your temps

[iron wave]

This is overclocked with a custom definition of throttling.

[astral haven]

you are thinking about it backwards

this is a pass/fail test

[astral haven]

this is the watts number where it fails

you can look up the watts number in a cpu review of your cpu

[iron wave]

The CPU doesn't instantly die when it gets hot.

[astral haven]

at the throttle point, the cooler is no longer keeping the cpu cool, the cpu is keeping the cooler cool

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/images/power-per-game.png
but even in the worst case scenario, you are still fine

the 7800x3d uses a peak in game around 60 watts

so you look on the graph, and you get somewhere between 35 and 40c

if that is an ok temp for you, them awesome

https://tpucdn.com/review/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-evo-argb-cpu-air-cooler/images/amd-noise-normalized.png

heres a better graph, noise normalized

[iron wave]

I'm saying pass fail is kinda bad for this and doesn't mirror real world stuff, clearly I'm correct because it did confuse the other person here.

[astral haven]

just because you are confused doesnt mean the other person is

[iron wave]

I'm not, I'm just saying it's not a good way of doing this stuff.

[astral haven]

its the best yet

[fierce terrace]

ive checked the test platform and they are using 420 arctic freezer for it

[iron wave]

Not really.

[astral haven]

i think you pointed to the wrong graph

and yes they use the biggest aio they have for testing because they want to use the same cooler for everything, and some intel cpus actually use a ton of power

but you just need to look at the watts

coolers handle watts

[fierce terrace]

yea right

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900ks/images/power-per-application.png

🔥

[fierce terrace]

intel is on fking fire

thank you partner you explained lotta things to me

conclusion aio will be an overkill at the time but more "future proof" for incoming upgrades

[astral haven]

would you buy any cpu that is that much of a furnace tho?

[fierce terrace]

who knows what amd will show up with their new x3d cpus

[astral haven]

x3d has to be alot lower power than regular for various reasons

[rough osprey]

new apple betas are out

[fierce terrace]

yea and i dont really know if the next upgrade will be for x3d really

so just taking aio just to be safe i guess

[astral haven]

look at all of the amd cpus

the only ones that are that hot are threadripper

if amd makes a furnace like intel has, itll probably be a bad cpu to buy

[rough osprey]

whats your definition of "hot"

[fierce terrace]

honestly was considering intel cpu since i will have to change motherboard for upcoming PCIe 5.0 5090

so then i will get even more use of an aio

[astral haven]

over 200w in any game

[little silo]

not remotely as hot as any Intel chip

[fierce terrace]

that is what worries me a bit

[astral haven]

why tho?

remember x3d generally gets you an extra generation of cpu performance in game

[iron wave]

The 4090 doesn't saturate a gen 4 x16 link, the 5090 will be fine on gen 4.

[astral haven]

its still a few percent performance loss dropping from 4x16 to 4x8

[rough osprey]

the x3ds can just be hard to cool in some scenarios ig

[iron wave]

Heck I'm running a 4090 on gen 4 x8 and it's faster than I need.

[astral haven]

[citation needed]

[rough osprey]

[experience]

[astral haven]

people "experience" flat earth, doesnt make it true

[fierce terrace]

my upgrade contains going to 4k resolutions so that is why more bandwith is needed i suppose

[iron wave]

You'd need less not more.

[rough osprey]

it reaches its thermal limit pretty fast

[fierce terrace]

amd cpus are designed to reach thermal limit

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-scaling/images/relative-performance_3840-2160.png

[iron wave]

Higher resolutions load the GPU more.

So it would need to talk to the CPU less.

[distant tapir]

Reject 4k embrace 1600 x 1200.

[steep creek]

aren't intel ones also designed to push for max all the time

[iron wave]

Also 2% is essentially margin of error and other things will affect it more.

[astral haven]

not as well, amd does alot better job

[steep creek]

i see

[astral haven]

those are two very different statements
second is true, first is not

[fierce terrace]

doesnt it depend on what game it is?

[astral haven]

vastly, this is across their entire test suite

[iron wave]

Run to run variance is generally a few percent at best.

[astral haven]

kinda

the more runs you do, the less variance you have

and because this is an average of hundreds of runs, the variance is extremely low

[iron wave]

Even if it was actually 2% and that was outside of the error margin you're highly unlikely to notice.

[astral haven]

correct

which is why i pushed back on the margins and not on the conclusion

[iron wave]

Your silly voice chat overlay might have 2% by itself, if you use one.

[astral haven]

sure, it would be 2% regardless tho (probably)

also rumors are nvidia is still making a chonker gpu even tho amd has given up, and intel wasnt planning to to begin with

the chonkier the gpu, the more it cares

and these things are gonna be v expensive

[gusty kiln]

Nvidia never lost their hunger unlike intel a decade ago

that's why they are competing with Microsoft and Apple in market cap now

[astral haven]

wait a gosh darn second, 7800x3d has 5.0x16 why would you need to change?

[fierce terrace]

because of the motherboard

[astral haven]

yea except nvidia could just outright not release any gaming gpus and their stock would drop less than 1%

[astral haven]

do you already have the motherboard?

[gusty kiln]

today yeah, but they needed to grind that cuda development and gaming dominance along the way

[astral haven]

cuda yes, why gaming?

[gusty kiln]

mindshare type of thing

[astral haven]

nonsense
gaming is only alive still because it is a hedge

[vagrant pagoda]

do you know how small geforce is for nvidia?

[gusty kiln]

right NOW yes it is small

[fierce terrace]

yeah i got my 7800x3d installed in it

[vagrant pagoda]

for 10+ years

[supple nest]

Nvidia is 10x overvalued

And I'm going to retire when it pops

[astral haven]

wait so whats wrong with your current setup?

[fierce terrace]

the graphics card and motherboard and cpu cooler

[gusty kiln]

https://i.redd.it/2fu75pjci1kc1.jpeg

doesn't look like 10+ years

[fierce terrace]

motherboard got PCIe 4.0 16x

[astral haven]

pe ratio of 70 is high but its not 10x
7x maybe

[astral haven]

ok so are you waiting for new gpus to upgrade your gpu?

[fierce terrace]

yes

[astral haven]

so right now you arent changing gpu

so motherboard and cooler
what are wrong with them now

[vagrant pagoda]

most of "gaming" sales for the last 5-6 years has been propped up by mining

[astral haven]

pretty sure the switch is counted in gaming

[fierce terrace]

my cooler is cheap and loud for now

and i said that i (will) have to change motherboard too

[astral haven]

my proposal is you save as much money as possible by doing the minimum cooler upgrade and keeping the same motherboard so you can get the best possible gpu

[fierce terrace]

already got money saved for the 5090

[fickle ore]

Wait for Arrow Lake it will be better than AMD

Q4 2024

TSMC N3B

[astral haven]

are you sure about that? rumors are prices going uppies

[fierce terrace]

yeah im more than sure

[gusty kiln]

and it's only the 5080 rumored to be end of this year

[fickle ore]

tbh I foresee AMD/Intel having better gaming gpus soon if Nvidia keeps focusing on AI, well that aint gonna drop the stock but still

[fierce terrace]

my upgrade contains 4k oled too since for now i got 2k lg oled

[astral haven]

well the most recent rumors are 2500 for base, a good model is likely to be north of 3k
or the 5090 might even be 2k but cut down from the full gpu which would be a ti at 2500

[fickle ore]

Anyone with a 5090 will be laughed at

[gusty kiln]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F82mOZ6bAAACktW.jpg

^ nvidia

[astral haven]

and yet it will still be the fastest gpu

[fierce terrace]

seriously tought about founders edition

deffinitely not overpaying for rog strix

[fickle ore]

you guys remember the days where u could get 3x new PC for 3k

Jesus

[astral haven]

you still can

[fickle ore]

Yeah but high end

[astral haven]

nope

its been at least 20 years

[fickle ore]

Tbh in 2010 it was doable

[gusty kiln]

1440p 144hz is still ez for around $1000

[astral haven]

you can always get a great pc for 1k

[fickle ore]

high end doesnt necessarily mean the bestest

[astral haven]

only time you couldnt was in the middle of the mining boom

[gusty kiln]

people are just so used to 4k and 360hz+ now

[astral haven]

if you are including x90 series, you are talking about bestest

[distant tapir]

Are xx70 Ti cards considered high end or is high end xx80 and above?

[fierce terrace]

you cant really achieve 360hz in 4k in games like cyberpunk or rdr2

its mostly competetive games

[astral haven]

high end is in the eye of the beholder

[fickle ore]

Yeah true, tbh these days im fine with 240 hz 140+ fps. Dont even need more

[astral haven]

sure but thats not what the 5090 is for

[fickle ore]

Soon corpos will need to give me money at this rate

[distant tapir]

115 Hz for me.

[fickle ore]

I would consider xx70 and xx80 or amd equivalent high end, before xx70 was inflated to shit tier category

xx70 was pretty good back then

[astral haven]

you say that, but current xx60 can game excellently even with maxed out settings

[gusty kiln]

well maybe the not 8gb 4060

[fickle ore]

@gusty kiln

[gusty kiln]

I'm still up

[fickle ore]

So is my world index that bought Nvidia

[astral haven]

ez 60 fps in almost every game at 1080p without frame scaling

[vagrant pagoda]

arent they up like 150% in 6mo?

[fickle ore]

Yea and 3000 % 5 year

[gusty kiln]

meanwhile intel

[fickle ore]

Be greedy when others are fearful

[fierce terrace]

cant name a single person playing at 1080p

unless the competetive benq monitor users

[astral haven]

you probably if you dont go into settings and manually disable the upscaling that most games enable by default now

[fickle ore]

that would be me, coz daddy didnt buy me a gpu

[gusty kiln]

I mean that's what I did with AMD, when did you 1st buy intel?

[fickle ore]

2023

[fierce terrace]

if my game runs unstable framerates without upscaling/dlss i just dont play it

[vagrant pagoda]

fam hes saying loads of games default to upscaling

[fierce terrace]

which ones for example

[astral haven]

even if you menu dive before trying out every game (which i still doubt) i doubt all your friends do

[gusty kiln]

lol so at best +$5 per share since 2023 if you are still holding today

[fickle ore]

im about even with divs atm

[gusty kiln]

Dec 2023 would have been a good time to sell then rebuy

[fierce terrace]

yeah probably but even that upscaling none of them use 1080p screen nor these resolutions

[astral haven]

every single game techpowerup has listed on this https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Game+Testing&p=2 in 2023 or 2024

except baldurs gate maybe?

[fickle ore]

stupid broker wont let me show the p/l

[astral haven]

sure but default upscaling for a 1440p screen (quite common) is probably gonna be 1080p or lower base

also 1080p is still the most common screen res on steam

[fierce terrace]

it may be since majority playing only cs or other competetive games

[gusty kiln]

@astral haven are you going to stay on your VA or upgrade to the OLEDs?

[fierce terrace]

even tho when i see dlss on i just switch it off because it irritates me

[astral haven]

yes

[astral haven]

and most people dont need more than 8gb of vram either
what would be bad is another vram mismatch situation, but as long as all 8gb of it is real attached vram, itll be fine on average

[astral haven]

i am very confident that i use my main monitor far more than average, i havent checked again recently but 2500 hours in less than 2 years is alot of use, i am considering a vision pro clone tho, whenever those come out, and those will be oled

[fierce terrace]

curious what pc case do you use carmonben

[gusty kiln]

you mean the LG tandem?

[astral haven]

caseless

[astral haven]

no, microoleds

[gusty kiln]

ooooh

[astral haven]

tandem might be interesting but it means using dogshit lg panels

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

if lg makes a 5k or 6k 240hz tandem panel tho, 👀

[rough osprey]

xD

[astral haven]

i always feel bad about downgrading any specs which is why im super stuck

[fierce terrace]

what u mean? you got your pc in your desk or what?

[astral haven]

my pc is a pile of parts arranged somewhat on a testbench/ mining rig/ janky pile of wires

[fierce terrace]

oh thats rare

[astral haven]

and even rarer that those setups are running not oc'd but here we are

after fighting with agesa for a year i gave up and embraced stock

[fierce terrace]

im about to find a case this week

considering pa602 and lancool 3

[astral haven]

there are plenty of people who pay attention to that stuff, and i am not one of them

[fierce terrace]

pa602 would be perfect unless radiator limitation

guess i will got with lancool since its cheaper and got more room for things

[astral haven]

you really shouldnt get an aio unless its for the looks

[fierce terrace]

im getting it for the noise performance too

nucleus seems good

[astral haven]

be careful tho, if you want reaaaally quiet, pump noise is constant

[gusty kiln]

be like ion and go full passive

[astral haven]

the x3ds are chill enough that that can work, but i wouldnt

[little silo]

Have a question for you all, my monitor has a max resolution of 280hz. I recently uninstalled my drivers with DDU and installed the latest driver on NVIDIA's website, but in my NVIDIA Control Panel I have no way of selecting the 280hz option. Is there any reason why for this?

[astral haven]

if you had 280 before, idk windows borked
but if you havent ever seen 280, you probably need a new displayport cable?

or you gpu is too old for 280hz

or the monitor doesnt allow 280hz unless you set it in the monitor settings

[little silo]

It's not the monitor or the cable since I've used it like this before. I mean it's happening now that I can't select it anymore.

Nevermind. I've just restarted the computer and I have it now.

I'm sorry to bother.

[astral haven]

me with my server having a 9900k passively cooled

[fierce terrace]

anyway thanks for explaining few things to me tho

[distant tapir]

When I got a 42 inch C2 I thought it would be an 'upgrade' since it's smaller and more comfortable to use as a result but god damn how much I missed the BFI of CX. Worst purchase I have ever done imo.

[gusty kiln]

I need to build a server at some point for self hosting

or just buy something

[astral haven]

meh i already have 240hz and i refuse to downgrade

[astral haven]

raspberry pi

i use my raspberry to do alot of the networking stuff and remote access for the other systems when they die

[little silo]

Which monitor?

[astral haven]

g8 neo

[distant tapir]

I'd love a 27 inch 5k 120 Hz VA monitor that I could use as a second monitor. But no one will ever make this. Never.

[astral haven]

no strobing 😦
600 nit full screen white 😦
2k flash, 1200 sustained 🙂
4k native contrast, enough for haloing to be ok with the dimming zones

[distant tapir]

no strobing 😦
Automatic no buy from me.

[astral haven]

yea, my last monitor was strobed and i miss it

[distant tapir]

Which was it?

[astral haven]

the 180hz 1080p rog swift

[gusty kiln]

QNED waiting room

[astral haven]

well i had another samsung between then and that, but it was pretty much the same as the g8 except dimmer

[gusty kiln]

or whatever it is called

[distant tapir]

QD-LED I think is the latest name for it.

[astral haven]

god no please

[distant tapir]

Pretty sure it has changed name two times or something by now.

[little silo]

Have another question for you all. My computer has been BSODing for a long time, and I reset my Windows install because of it. I've got the latest Windows update, 23H2, used DDU to uninstall my GPU drivers and installed the latest ones for my GPU (3060 Ti), installed all my chipset drivers and upgraded my BIOS, and I've run SFC and DISM commands so many times that I'm honestly going insane opening my command prompt.

Is there anything in here anyone recommend that I do to fix this once and for all?

[astral haven]

i believe someone has already called their qdef lcd tvs qd-led

reset bios

[little silo]

How so?

I've also enabled XMP for my RAM in BIOS.

[astral haven]

turn it off

[distant tapir]

I wouldn't be surprised.

I think the first name I can remember for it was nanorod LED or something.

Unless that's something else. It's been so long.

QNED. QD-LED.

[little silo]

For some reason, it always reverts my hertz on my panel to 144hz or 60hz after every crash/restart.

[astral haven]

thanks lg for runing that name

[little silo]

How do I turn it off?

[distant tapir]

I def wouldn't have wanted to use the name when a different technology also uses it.

The LG ones would be the 'please accidentally buy me' ones.

[astral haven]

and the qd-led name is ruined by qd mini-led tvs

[distant tapir]

I honestly think they should take ideas from Apple here.

[gusty kiln]

easy fix, AI-LED

[distant tapir]

Instead of having some technical name that people can easily confuse for something else just name it something silly.

[astral haven]

someone will instantly release a miniled that uses ai for dimming zones

[gusty kiln]

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[astral haven]

they do that too, we just ignore it

[distant tapir]

Apple calls high refresh rate ProMotion.

So they need to do something like that.

(When I hear ProMotion I think of BFI)

[astral haven]

Fast-ips

Elmb-sync

[little silo]

I've reset it. Is there anything else I can possibly do? Also, should I turn on XMP after that or leave the BIOS like it is?

[astral haven]

Leave it for a while, see if the crashes still happen

[unkempt lake]

https://www.xda-developers.com/apple-finally-admits-that-8gb-ram-isnt-enough/

[steep creek]

lana looks like you were right

[wheat plume]

I wasn't right

My theory was they set base model at 8gb still and lock out users from the features that need more via software limits

Oh wait
LOL THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING

[fierce terrace]

https://www.sikakeyb.com/ looks like a competition is growin' up

[little silo]

Alright. Just in case it doesn't work, is there anything else I can do?

It's not like this system has never worked, it's worked fine for a long time. It's just now that it's doing this.

[astral haven]

what changed?

[little silo]

I don't know if it's something that I installed or anything.

[little silo]

The latest upgrade I've done has been the 3060 Ti and a new monitor.

Otherwise, nothing.

[astral haven]

gpu could be memory busted

[little silo]

For a while I was running on integrated graphics.

Don't know if that can be the culprit of anything.

[little silo]

That something I can test for?

[astral haven]

not super easily

but occt gpu has a memory option

[little silo]

That's what it's showing in Event Viewer

@astral haven

I don't even know if it's BSODing anymore since it just restarts my computer

What is this?

[astral haven]

radeon bs, if you dont have a radeon gpu, you need to ddu the radeon and uninstall any software

[unkempt lake]

Guessing he didn't ddu before the 3060

[little silo]

Nope.

[unkempt lake]

And now shit's conflicting with each other

[fair gull]

always DDU when switching GPUs as a rule of thumb

[unkempt lake]

Ywah do that

Clean and restart

Then do it for nvidia after

[little silo]

Wondering why this didn't happen before. It's just happening now, nearing a month after I've installed it.

[unkempt lake]

Windows updates

[little silo]

Makes sense.

[fair gull]

any update to drivers or such can cause instability like this if you got 2 gpu drivers and their software

not necessarily win updates even

[astral haven]

nvidia to nvidia and intel to nvidia is fine

[little silo]

How do I know if it's fine now? I've just cleaned and restarted.

[astral haven]

you wait and see

[balmy vector]

[little silo]

Just start playing?

[unkempt lake]

@little silo if you have an amd cpu make sure yo reinstall ur chipset driver after

[fair gull]

given ive had BSODs from nvidia to nvidia upgrades id say no

[little silo]

Cheers, doing that now.

[unkempt lake]

Ddu on amd alsodeletes chipset drivers fo youcpu

[sudden imp]

I saw someone say, I do not know if it was in this server that NVIDIA was target AI consumers instead of making gaming GPUS.

Would that mean Intel/AMD may be able to supass them in gaming performance?

[fair gull]

lol no

nvidias biggest market is indeed the server space but thats been the case for a while now

theyll still make consumer gpus for both gaming and professional usage

[little silo]

I can get that from the software, right?

[unkempt lake]

Amd's website

[sudden imp]

makes sense money is money

[unkempt lake]

Just make sure to uncheck integrated graphics in the installer xd

[lyric hatch]

Nvidia loves being market leaders doubt they will fall behind

[fair gull]

ye

[unkempt lake]

Same

I had bsods going nv to nv

[fair gull]

also they already have the currently best tech so i doubt they wouldnt just improve consumer GPUs with advancements made in DC tech

[little silo]

done

[fair gull]

amd i think said they wont try compete in the high end market for GPUs

and intel is too far behind rn to consider currently

[unkempt lake]

Thats fine yeah

[fair gull]

although i hear intel is catching up nicely

[lyric hatch]

Yeah that's the rumour is no high end cards from AMD next gen

[unkempt lake]

Sad

[sudden imp]

RNDA 4 is apparently just a refresh. Rumour mill is saying RNDA 5 will be the next sliced bread

🤞

[little silo]

So it should be fine now?

[fair gull]

idk i feel like nvidia will just beat amd either way

[little silo]

Anything I need to double check?

[fair gull]

wait and see

[unkempt lake]

This

[little silo]

Got you

[sudden imp]

probably

But NVIDIA is getting investigated by the US

[unkempt lake]

Nvidia's just too far ahead

[sudden imp]

so im curious if that will have any lasting effects

[little silo]

What for?

[unkempt lake]

They have so much money they dont care

[fair gull]

like nvidia 50series will beat up amd, amd does the gen after the upcoming one and nvidia will go you just activated my trap card and blows amd cards out the water

[sudden imp]

Antitrust

Probably for thier aquistion for ARM

[unkempt lake]

And then amd will do a mediocre jebaited and do a meh price drop

Lol

[astral haven]

nah
amd is simply not making a high end gpu, just going for midrange and low end

[fair gull]

like the only real advantage amd has is price/perf in the gpu sector

[unkempt lake]

I'm just glad i got my 7900xtx for so cheap because of a price error 😎

[balmy vector]

How much we talkin?

[unkempt lake]

Got it for like 1200cad instead of 1550cad

[balmy vector]

[unkempt lake]

Last summer

[fair gull]

depends on if they want to never commit to high end market ever again with gpus

[astral haven]

im just saying for 2025 and 6

[fair gull]

idk why it didnt reply initially

[unkempt lake]

Like they had a sale going on and they fucked it up i bought it and the next day they corrected the price

[lyric hatch]

They gotta work on their regional pricing

[unkempt lake]

Card was still sent to me tho @balmy vector

😎

Cuz thats the law

[lyric hatch]

I can get a 4080 super for pretty much the same price as a 7900 xtx

[balmy vector]

based

[unkempt lake]

Nowadays yeah

[little silo]

It crashed even faster lol

[unkempt lake]

I'm talking a year ago @lyric hatch

[fair gull]

did you ever check bluescreenview for what BSOD it even comes up with?

[unkempt lake]

878usd 7900xtx was awesome especially for the canadian market

[lyric hatch]

I'm not sure they've ever been that competitive in my market

[unkempt lake]

I just got lucky

Sale + price error

[little silo]

Don't have it, downloading it now.

[fair gull]

my biggest fear is 50series will need 2 nuclear powerplants in your backyard/basement and the connectors melt and glow green

[balmy vector]

50 connectors

For unlimited power

[fair gull]

no 2 12vhpwr

or whatever the new one is called

or just 8 8pin connectors

who knows

[balmy vector]

Roll the dice to see

[unkempt lake]

I got an hx1500i from corsair for 200$ brand new all because it was the old packaging without the 12vhpwr... came with extra 8 pins instead

With that im set for a while

[lyric hatch]

I got my 3060 ti with a single 8 pin

[unkempt lake]

My ax860 lives in nico's rig

[fair gull]

rip my 2080ti

[unkempt lake]

Rip

[fair gull]

rip me still trying to figure out how to proceed

[balmy vector]

May it rest peacefully

[little silo]

@unkempt lake Do you mind if I DM you with any questions?

[unkempt lake]

Fine by me

[lyric hatch]

2080 ti was a big ass gpu in terms of die size

[sudden imp]

Asus's BTF 12vhwpr connector in the back of the motherboard died that was displayed at CES.

That was one of the three boards they had there

[unkempt lake]

You know maybe you could just reset your windows since all the errors point to driver related issues just pick reset and keep my files @little silo should be painless and you'll be sure its not software related after

🙂

[balmy vector]

[fair gull]

u see i wanted to build a new PC with a 4090... but i realised itll prob have a the new 12pin connector... and idk if i wanna risk it melting or not

[little silo]

But I did do that.

[unkempt lake]

Besides amd sadly no one cares about 8pin conmectors anymore

[unkempt lake]

Well rhen it's clearly not software

[sudden imp]

Some of the issues on the newer connectors have been fixed

[unkempt lake]

Have you run a memtest on your ram?

@little silo

[sudden imp]

It clearly was a rushed specification

[little silo]

I did that because it was BSODing before, and I was getting sick of it. Only to find out it's doing the same thing again.

[lyric hatch]

Wait for next gen

[little silo]

No, do I download OCCT?

[unkempt lake]

Just do a regular memtest first

For your system ram

There's a built in tool in windows (not the best but it works) or you can make a bootable memtest86 usb

[balmy vector]

im just glad my 12vhpwr situation is more clean

Stock cable is so ugly

[fair gull]

will have the same issues but in 6months

[fair gull]

ye amd no choice

for gpu that is

[unkempt lake]

Arent they switching it to some new revision?

[balmy vector]

I heard about that i think?

[fair gull]

idk but the issue is im basically playing on a pc that if it was a pirate it would be a pirate with 2 wooden legs, 2 hooks and 2 eyepatches

[unkempt lake]

Maybe time to clean things up a bit

[balmy vector]

Yarrs sadly

[fair gull]

cant cleanup a shit spare gpu

lol

i basically dismissed buying a replacement 2080ti cause theyre pretty expensive still

[unkempt lake]

You could just get a 4080 or a 7900xtx if you want a new hi end card

Or just find something more affordable

[fair gull]

again amd gpu no option

[unkempt lake]

Why

Also only the 4090s had the melting connector bs basically

[fair gull]

im not even 100% sure anymore what the exact conclusion was but it was a day or 2 of discussing in here that made AMD a nogo choice

[unkempt lake]

...?

You don't even know yourself

[balmy vector]

[unkempt lake]

I'm kinda at a loss here

[fair gull]

yes cause like i said we discussed for days and all i took note of was amd no good for what i want

[unkempt lake]

I've switched back and forth between intel amd nvidia

Brand loyalty dumb

[fair gull]

i was actually having an amd build planned before the discussion

[unkempt lake]

seems like a boatload of nothing to me

If you can't explain it

[fair gull]

ill scrollback a few weeks and find it if necessary

[unkempt lake]

You don't even remember

Why would it be important

If it was you'd remember

It's pcs not rocket science

[fair gull]

oh right it was multimonitor related when diogo gave input on his amd experience. #💬│general message
made it immediately a no go
cause i plan to use 2 or 3 G9s
and if its 2 ill put the second one as 2 PbP monitors for better window management
and i already have issues with my current amd spare gpu of some driver issues
until i found the magically working older driver version that somehow runs better

this way dashi cant escape not seeing the mention

[unkempt lake]

i saw your post

hi

lol

i use a neo g9 with my 7900xtx

[fair gull]

ye just incase you didnt check/notice

[unkempt lake]

been using it for like a year

im happy with it

[fair gull]

as mentioned the plan is 2 and one as 2 monitors via pbp

[unkempt lake]

also

what g9 we talking about

49 or 57

[fair gull]

49 for now but prob bigger in the future

[unkempt lake]

cuz 57 is a nogo on nvidia unless you want to kill your refreshrate

• nvidia has DSC problems

its well documented

[fair gull]

if nvidia can do 60 im fine

[unkempt lake]

your call

[glass stag]

bro what

Why drop that much money on a monitor if you don't give a shit about FPS?

[fair gull]

i only have the g9 since they can act as 2 screens without a bezel

and thus only need 1 arm

[unkempt lake]

its a nice feature

i like it

[fair gull]

im already dreading the future 2 G9 setup cause itll have a somewhat bezel inbetween even if i reverse mount the second one

[unkempt lake]

especially with my work laptop through hdmi in PBP with my desktop

[fair gull]

cause the screen isnt edge to edge at the top

[unkempt lake]

but yeah

in my 1 year with the 7900xtx

i only had like

1 issues

forza motorsports<

at launch

which was patched within like a week

• the game itself was a mess so it was honestly kind of a combo of both

[fair gull]

all i basically want from a GPU is pure raster perf and being able to run 3 or 4 monitors at 60fps without those weird issues diogo for example had with 3 monitors that go away when unplugging one

and mixed with my own AMD issues atm it just leaves a sour taste

[unkempt lake]

sounds like a really wierd issue

i've had some monitor issues with nvidia before

when i was using 3 gsync monitors

took like... months before they fixed this crap

[fair gull]

yeah well i dont use such fancy features

its also why i hoped AMD is a choice

[unkempt lake]

i sent them emails and shit and they were like yeah its a real issue we know we working on a fix

[fair gull]

cause idc about RTX and DLSS and such

[unkempt lake]

only got a fix like 6 months later

kinda sucked cuz i had bought these monitors with well gsync hi refresh 3 monitor sim racing in mind

and they had some stupid compatibility problem after a driver update

😦

[fair gull]

i think the only issue with nvidia gpus i ever had was ark on release of the 2080ti

was it even ark

[unkempt lake]

it was back when i was still on my 2080

[fair gull]

i dont recall

but that was game specific as well and otherwise i had 0 issues

[unkempt lake]

also i remember nvidia having many issues with samsung g9s

[fair gull]

if only hashcat didnt kill it

[unkempt lake]

for a while

eventually they patched itt

but i remember on every driver release you had people with g9s complaining

[fair gull]

have had 0 issues. it recognizes both inputs as a separate monitor and all

[unkempt lake]

im just saying that it's not perfect with any company

[fair gull]

im aware

i just had far less issues with nvidia over my own experience personally and a good 8years as a pc tech

where i meanwhile even had customers rage at me for "breaking their gpu" when adrenalin was just shite and i had to rollback to some older version

[little silo]

Hey Dashi, ran a memtest and nothing is out of the ordinary. How can I guarantee that I don't have any graphics drivers installed for my iGPU? It's a 5700G if that helps.

[unkempt lake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/j1h2q4/new_nvidia_driver_does_it_fix_the_g9rtx3xxx_issues/ @fair gull

it was on 3000 series

with g9 monitors

explains why you didnt see it

[fair gull]

wouldnt have affected me either way

[fair gull]

its specifically HDR at 240hz

[unkempt lake]

i care about that

xD

[fair gull]

yeah well i dont

[unkempt lake]

hm

[fair gull]

@little silo did you do the bluescreenview thing?

[little silo]

Yeah, but it hasn't crashed yet.

Trying to see if I can uninstall those iGPU drivers.

[fair gull]

i thought it did crash and thats why you are looking for the issue?

im confused

[little silo]

I'm going to do this first and then see.

Running this right now.

[fair gull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/j1h2q4/comment/g73w0pg/ also 20series

[unkempt lake]

just trying to be helpful btw @fair gull
ill say the last time i bought an amd gpu before this one was a 270X and i returned it to the store like 2 weeks later and got a 760

it had been a while since i had considered amd

[fair gull]

i have been running AMD until the 2080 cause i just couldnt be arsed anymore

[unkempt lake]

last 2 gpus before my 7900xtx were a 980 and a 2080

it sucks that the 2080 ti memory is garbo

was an issue since launch

and makes buying second hand a gamble

[fair gull]

well mine survived till uh 2 weeks ago or so

[unkempt lake]

rip

[fair gull]

it did everything so nicely

except ffxiv at full res of both screens

it didnt like that