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frozen ingot
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the kind of investigative journalism they do on top of in-depth product testing don't come cheap

smoky frigate
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and steve's hairdresser

sudden imp
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They aren’t as big as LMG so i do think donations probably go a long way for them besides someone like lmg-

sudden imp
fair gull
balmy vector
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Someones gotta do it

fickle ore
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Yeah but when we're generalizing we're talking about the middle class. Or the young and poor, especially in the case of tech as a hobby/reddit/streamers/utube. Yeah sure there are couple millionaires here and there but theyre marginal

fair gull
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id also assume those donation amounts are marginal

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its not like every 5th comment donated 500usd/eur

balmy vector
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For now

fickle ore
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Yeah whatever, I like their content. If GN keeps afloat bc of the poors donating I'm not gonna cry over it

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I just hope it's 5-10$ not 500$ they give or else I feel bad for them

fair gull
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so out of all donations i coudl see from scrolling (havent seen one after a few new comment loads now) 6 of them are 100usd/eur or above. the rest are all just 2-20usd/eur after conversion with 2 or 3 50usd/eur ones (also after conversion). so i would more assume that those people with high donation amounts can also afford it

smoky frigate
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or they have to make up for a lot of bad karma

fair gull
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actually 6 one of them was in AED which i had to look up the exchange for

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although the arab emirate one is prob more than wealthy enough

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i feel more bad for the indian donators as (for all i know) they arent doing economically well as a country in general

sudden imp
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It’s really interesting on the politics there it’s like a single party has control over the whole country

fair gull
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but i would in general agree that its sad to see people in financial bad siutations overspent but its also something the US credit system seems to promote

ashen spindle
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for one these numbers are always off and I would guess its lower money from just youtube

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but also , with the teamsize I think that might only cover salaries lol

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like no they dont need donations in that form, sponsor blocks and store sales cover for that

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but if you want to support it and dont care about pateron support or dont want some merch, thats about the same

unkempt lake
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OwO

gusty kiln
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though my mobo of choice would be the Taichi Lite

unkempt lake
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Specs wise soes everything i need it to do

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I'm just... waiting on my ram kit

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Which should arrive on monday

gusty kiln
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I like the new teamgroup ram kits

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wait they start at 6800MHz

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rip

unkempt lake
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I just grabbed some cl30 6000mhz ram

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Will be hynix a die

gusty kiln
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think A-die is a current hotness

unkempt lake
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Should oc nicely

unkempt lake
gusty kiln
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but X3D should be less ram dependent

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even if you get some duds

unkempt lake
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What i got

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And was on sale so

ashen spindle
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well, am5 in general means put it at 6000, tighten timings, including secondaries down and done

gusty kiln
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have they said the rec ram speed for 9000 yet?

ashen spindle
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no

unkempt lake
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No one knows

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Prob not until the new mobos are out

ashen spindle
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boards wont change it

gusty kiln
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I wonder how finicky CL 30-36-36-76 kits are

ashen spindle
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just matters if its the exact same IO die or some better stepping that improves IMC

wheat plume
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Xiaomi's Find My Device network only works in China....
I guess that makes sense

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It still lets me login

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And makes me think it's gonna work

hearty harness
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hey guys, i am building a PC with a 7800x3d but i dont know if i should go for an AMD gpu like the 7900xtx or go for the 4070 ti super or the 4070 super

ashen spindle
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Look at a site like techpowerup to compare what the cards get in games that you play or are similar enough then decide based on price for cards in your area

gusty kiln
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7900XTX is on par with a 4080, but if you're willing to live with the quirks it's a good choice

sudden imp
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Apparently one of the three ASUS BTF gpu connectors melted >_>

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From last year

hearty harness
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should i get the PNY 4070 Ti Super Super Verto for 909€ instead of the Gigabyte 4070 Ti Super Super Gaming for 959€ or should i go for a 4070 Super (around 650-700€) to pair it with a 7800x3d?

gusty kiln
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what games do you play and what resolution and refresh rate?

hearty harness
gusty kiln
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at 1080p?

hearty harness
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yes

unkempt lake
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same with gta 5 its so old

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simracing wise what do you play

zenith silo
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gta 5 also just runs like shit past 144fps

unkempt lake
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ACC? Forza Motorsports?

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iracing?

hearty harness
unkempt lake
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honestly i'd say for sim racing

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either keep your current monitor and buy 2 more monitors

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or

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use a super ultrawide

hearty harness
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and what about the GPU?

gusty kiln
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probably go for the 4070ti super

unkempt lake
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or triple monitor setup

hearty harness
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1080p either way probably

unkempt lake
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i run a 5120x1440p monitor and i wouldn't go lower than the 7900xtx im using

gusty kiln
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unless you can find a $899 7900XTX

unkempt lake
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7900xtx is something i'd recommend

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as no RT games were listed

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and well... RT in racing games works fine on the XTX (in forza for example)

hearty harness
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where im buying the 7900xtx is 1050€ and the cheapest 4070 ti super is like 909 (PNY) and the most expensive one is 959 (Gigabyte)

zenith silo
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7900xt would be a good choice especially with graphics mods on ac

unkempt lake
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^^

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this

gusty kiln
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what about 4080 super?

unkempt lake
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you get the vram with the xtx

gusty kiln
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how much is that

unkempt lake
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for heavy acc modding its perfect

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😄

hearty harness
gusty kiln
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yikes

unkempt lake
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go xtx i say

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@hearty harness

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but consider a monitor upgrade

gusty kiln
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that EU tax

hearty harness
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i have some friends say amd for gpus isnt that great

unkempt lake
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you wont regret it

zenith silo
unkempt lake
hearty harness
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so no driver issues or anything?

unkempt lake
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i'Ve switched back and forth from amd to nvidia

hearty harness
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works as fine as an nvidia?

gusty kiln
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wait

astral haven
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there are advantages to either

lyric hatch
gusty kiln
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how much is your energy bill since you're in the EU

unkempt lake
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in the year of owning my xtx i only hadd a single time where a driver had an issue and reinstalling it was fine

zenith silo
astral haven
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nvidia has some fancy features, amd is generally faster for the same price

unkempt lake
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nothing that i havent had on nvidia issues wise tbh

astral haven
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and amd does tend to be more problematic in 10+ year old games

unkempt lake
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@hearty harness

gusty kiln
hearty harness
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yeah i guess that excuse worked some years ago now its 100% fine

gusty kiln
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are you buying online or in person

hearty harness
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online bcs i need to get it build (ive never built one on my own so im not trying to fuck it up)

lyric hatch
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I mean it was only 8 months ago they released anti lag which got players banned due to how poorly implemented it was dogekek

gusty kiln
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yeah I'm more hesitant to reccomend AMD for 1st time builders

unkempt lake
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seriously

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i dont feel the difference

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same for reflex on nvidia

gusty kiln
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turbo nerds can deal with and figure out any issues IF they arise

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but nvidia is a noob friendlier choice

hearty harness
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what build would you guys recommend for around 2k 2.1k € with 7800x3d and 7900xtx?

hearty harness
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haha

unkempt lake
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i havent really seen anything that i didnt see on nvidia in the last year

lyric hatch
unkempt lake
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affected people got unbanned

lyric hatch
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Yeah but it shouldn't have happened

unkempt lake
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honestly

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yeah

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but

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it really isn't a big deal

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valve bans people for stupid reasons by mistake all the time

lyric hatch
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Nowhere along the line was there somebody to be like, hey this isn't such a good idea

unkempt lake
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i got banned for credit card fraud for a week because of a mistake valve did

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so

hearty harness
unkempt lake
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i'm just like that one issue because valve anti cheat didnt like the amd software and the bans got reverted

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is no biggie

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valve gave me 5$ store credit for losing my steam acc for a week

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xD

lyric hatch
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It was more then just valve games, the way it was implemented was literally the way cheats inject into game clients

unkempt lake
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you get what i mean tho

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fuck ups happen

zenith silo
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yeah anti lag literally injected itself like a cheat

unkempt lake
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this is a reversible one

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and not a permanent one

zenith silo
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wouldnt be surprised if there are people out there that didnt get unbanned though

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happens quite often with false ban waves where some are missed and dont get unbanned

astral haven
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and thats only if you exclude this issue for all cards that just happened to be this generation

hasty thunder
zenith silo
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And face punch

orchid grove
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anybody know how to read the data in keyboard inspector?

wispy pecan
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Sorry for off-topic, did someone have an issue of twitch buffering when changing the resolution to 1080p before? It keep loading at the time. unless I change to 480p, when my interenet speed is fine.

wheat plume
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Is it possible to have Linux setup kind of like Ms dos
Where there is no desktop
Just command prompt
And you can still run GUI programs if you launch them via the command

crimson wigeon
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Yes

halcyon moss
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Dude.. Wtf. Of course

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In the past I used to run xinit

vagrant pagoda
wispy pecan
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my download and upload speed is fine

vagrant pagoda
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I mean like your isp

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You can a Ethernet connection to a mobile network router

reef patrol
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Do not the ethernet connection.

rough osprey
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But i wanna the ethernet 😡

wispy pecan
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I don't understand but my pc is using the ethernet connection.

halcyon moss
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Get faster internet

woven laurel
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play in the server room

smoky frigate
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I am beginning to really hate AI

sudden imp
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Everyone is, it’s a marketing gimmick right now.

crimson wigeon
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No it's the future come on you should be using an AI companion for everything, all your writing, all your coding...

mellow ice
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I have now bought the WS Dash HE magnetic switch, and I have to say they are awesome, great sound, pre lube, and smooth

soft quartz
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Does anybody know how i stop the rgb from turning off after i didnt touch the keyboard for a few minutes?

umbral heron
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In Wootility Settings > Keyboard Settings > RGB Sleep Mode

gusty kiln
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@wheat plume

wheat plume
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I literally started watching this before opening discord xd

gusty kiln
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kek

wheat plume
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why is his menu so fucking huge?

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oh, cant change TDP

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only GPU Clock

gusty kiln
wheat plume
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Oh...

crimson wigeon
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But that's no Deck

wheat plume
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no, but its closer

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a lot of the comments be like "why do? now no can play most games"

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Bazzite, why are you doing this?!?!?!

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the Next button on the LEFT?!

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just casually showing off roughly 3 grand worth of handhelds......

ashen spindle
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content creator showing things he makes content about
wow such amazing

wheat plume
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XD

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he has a Keychron keyboard in that shot yet for the part of the guide he wants a keyboard, he uses some cheap ugly membrane office board

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why not use the Keychron you literally have beside you?!

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wait wait, Forza Horizon is considered an arcade racer??

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so its technically the same genre of game as mariokart? XDD

zenith silo
wheat plume
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..yeah

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fair point LOL

zenith silo
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If Forza horizon actually tried to make a game with good physics, a decent map, and fun gameplay/campaign. It would actually be amazing

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Because aside from the sounds the car models are incredible

unkempt lake
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I mean... you can make it a little more realistic? But it's still very srcady

zenith silo
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Yeah but like, nothing about the physics is actually any bit realistic compared to something like beamng

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Imo Forza horizon would be wayyy more fun if they actually just made cars have realistic amounts of grip/tire physics

rough osprey
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least important change that the game needs imo

smoky frigate
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we need Forza Kart

unkempt lake
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New isp plan go woosh

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I had 400/50 which was the max i could get

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But apparently now there's a new 500/50 plan for 4$ cheaper than what i was paying for mine

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Free internet upgrade

vagrant pagoda
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also im pretty sure hes using wireless kb in that

ashen spindle
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is there a simple way in linux to get the system powerdraw?

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or something like hwinfo64 that I can use to just get a rough powerdraw monitoring without using a physical thing, dont care about it being super accurate

wheat plume
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Powerstat allegedly

ashen spindle
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no im not on a laptop

wheat plume
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?

ashen spindle
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Powerstat measures the power consumption of a laptop using the ACPI battery information.
literally first line of it

steep creek
ashen spindle
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hm maybe, but that looks a bit heavy for just wanting a readout of all powerdraw sensors added together lol

steep creek
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yeah haha thats fair

ashen spindle
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oh wait nvm I do have a smart plug that can read the powerdraw so I can just use that then

steep creek
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nice no software needed for that

umbral heron
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lm_sensors for motherboard sensors, s-tui and cpupower (on Intel) for CPUs, nvtop for GPUs, and powertop

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To be fair it wouldn't be hard to make a small python+tk app which would do that, I might look into that once I get bored at work nod

ashen spindle
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I was just curious what proxmox/HA/pihole use since its just a repurposed desktop and was surprised proxmox doesnt even list cpu power alone

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like yeah unless it has good hardware sensors its not very accurate but as an estimate that seems like something handy

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but just in general having a script that just grabs all powersensors it can find and adds them and does update while you run it every second or so would be handy

hearty harness
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guys whats the best mobo for 7800x3d? x670e or b650

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for gaming

unkempt lake
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What are you needs

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Do you need fast storage

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Do you need lots of usb ports

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Do you need wifi?

hearty harness
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i have 5k speed m.2 and 6k ram cl30

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no wifi no need for lots of usb i think

unkempt lake
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Save some money

hearty harness
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just want the best for the 7800x3d

unkempt lake
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You can save some momey by going with a b series of x non e board

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I got an x670e board for myself personally but it worked with my use case

gusty kiln
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7800X3D don't need lots of power either

hearty harness
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a good b650 (gigabyte b650 eagle ax) for 175€ and the cheapest x670e (asus tuf gaming plus) for 295€

unkempt lake
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They have good rma on mobos

balmy vector
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Msi nice

hearty harness
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yes but ive been told they are shit

unkempt lake
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I had to rma a mobo once and had a great experience

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They rmaed my out of warranty board

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3 months after warranty ended

gusty kiln
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MSI and Asrock have the least amount of contraversies recently

balmy vector
hearty harness
gusty kiln
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The Tomahawk have been solid for almost all MSI mobos

unkempt lake
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I recently grabbed myself the x670e gaming plus for my build

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Got a good deal

hearty harness
unkempt lake
hearty harness
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so from the list i sent you would go for the Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX?

unkempt lake
hearty harness
# unkempt lake

but that only shows the connectors right? so theres no difference in performance (at least gaming wise)

unkempt lake
hearty harness
unkempt lake
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For most people they're not worth it

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But for me lets say

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I deemed it worth it to go x670e

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Got a good price, had a nice rear io/connectivity was happy

hearty harness
hearty harness
unkempt lake
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Ayyy found my mobo lol

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Also @hearty harness you forgot to tell me your price range

hearty harness
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the one you think is the best quality/price

unkempt lake
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Just for basic gaming?

hearty harness
unkempt lake
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Probably what i'd go with to save a few bucks if i were in your situation

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And with your needs

gusty kiln
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spend less on mobo, put it into gpu

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and psu

hearty harness
unkempt lake
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Their bios is more intuitive and just better

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  • msi has good CS
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as i told you i had an msi motherboard die

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I was 3 months out of warranty

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They still replaced it free of charge

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To me that matters

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XD

burnt epoch
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Y'all have any recommendations for desks (avoiding magnetic desks after seeing horror stories of them)

unkempt lake
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Gigabyte has has issues with customer service before

hearty harness
unkempt lake
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Buy the one i linked

hearty harness
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yeah the one i sent looks a bit sketchy urs looks good

unkempt lake
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Also maybe they were just angry at msi cuz they scalped gpus during the pandemic and sold gpus to bitcoin miners

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Ur friends

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I mean

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XD

hearty harness
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probably haha

unkempt lake
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Memory Express permanently closed 4 locations- Ottawa, Mississauga, Hamilton,
London

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Rip canafian pc gamers

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I hope their other stores dont close

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And that they keep selling online

pale sigil
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Screw gigabyte

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I've had way too many of their mobos fail and my friends

rough patrol
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Ive had 2 and neither failed

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Maybe low sample size

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But their uefi sucks ass i gotta say

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Some settings are impossible to find

digital cliff
unkempt lake
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Gigabyte's durability for their more budget lines is horrible

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Unless you pay good money for a board

steep creek
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without watching this video im just gonna guess, if this is about woa im with macos dogekek

fair gull
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its about software ecosystem yes

unkempt lake
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The hell is emudeck's creator doing

steep creek
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aha

unkempt lake
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Just oosted this on emudeck's patreon page

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And im like

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What

final flame
fair gull
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also surface doesnt have speaker holes next to keyboard

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very important

final flame
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yea, that was another one

fair gull
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i do agree on how easy macos/macbook integrates with your phone and a lot of macos software being very easy to use/install/configure

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but i still dont think that means macbooks have no killer

steep creek
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i think it just depends on what you do and of course if you prefer macs or not

fair gull
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exactly

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same for linux in the mix

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theres a lot of usecase and personal preference involved

wheat plume
final flame
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it's been the same thing with the whole console debate
but yet people love to shill trillion dollar corpos

fair gull
steep creek
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yes for sure, there is no one 'perfect' computer or OS for everyone imo

old marlin
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(and is not in posession of a spirit level)

lyric hatch
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Macbooks are very nice 👌

hasty thunder
frozen ingot
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they used to be at least

steep creek
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i get keeping boxes for rma purposes and such but never as decorating pieces

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maybe is just me

old marlin
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better glue them to your wall

hasty thunder
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jesus fucking... 6 hours for a simple diagnosis

frozen ingot
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welcome to healthcare

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where everyone is seemingly juggling 400 different tasks at any given time

hasty thunder
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and the worst part? It suddenly bursted when getting ready for the surgery

final flame
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at least it's better than being tossed around because a doctor doesn't want to actually solve the issue

steep creek
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arc gives mac all the cool features first PepeHands

raw zephyr
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i still don't understand this browser

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mostly the mandatory login part

umbral heron
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Twas the same with Warp terminal
I think it's Apple kind of a thing

steep creek
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its so you can sync your browser history, tabs and such acoss multiple devices

umbral heron
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Sure, like every other browser

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Why it's mandatory though cutieCry

steep creek
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but yea fair they could have done this without mandatory logins

fair gull
# raw zephyr mostly the mandatory login part

the main reason rn is that its an invite only browser still so its mainly used for bug report tracking and such. but other than that its a very apple software thing to have logins for syncing and stuff.

fair gull
lyric hatch
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Having been in the hosptial for extended periods you learn to be extremely patient peepo_wait

steep creek
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i guess they just prioritize the macos version for now

fair gull
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yes until they finish their whatever magic to get swiftui working on macos fully

unkempt lake
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@wheat plume @umbral heron

halcyon moss
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I remember doing that on a ds. It's was very useless

vagrant pagoda
umbral heron
vagrant pagoda
umbral heron
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I had both way before that nod

halcyon moss
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looks at falke cozy shoes

vagrant pagoda
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My spell correct didn't want that to be correct

wheat plume
vagrant pagoda
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God damn zoomers, I've owned computers that had less ram than that lol

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Our first family computer was a 95 machine with 8 mb

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Well first that I recall

halcyon moss
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i remember an msx

umbral heron
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My first, well my auntie's first, was P3 with 256MB d_nyaffienod

fair gull
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idk how the kernel boots exactly and how its reserved

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so 96mb would usually be freely available

wheat plume
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O...

frozen ingot
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my first home computer had 512 kilobytes of ram

fair gull
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let me guess 20mb of HDD space is more than anyone will ever need

halcyon moss
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thats almost 1 "photo" these days

fair gull
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less than 1 flac file with song length

smoky frigate
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trigger warning

fair gull
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how is that a trigger warning worthy image... just hold the power button or virsh destroy domain

smoky frigate
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oh no, this shit has driven me nuts and I felt genuine anger looking at this image 😛

fair gull
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idk i just kill of the machine when that happens

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i dont give a damn

chrome lava
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does anyone here use Gmail?

rough patrol
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I do but i probably shouldnt

vagrant pagoda
smoky frigate
vagrant pagoda
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You don't use butterflies to affect the atmosphere in order to direct cosmic particles directly onto a platter?

pale sigil
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Nobs

halcyon moss
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Vnc is paid?

crimson wigeon
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Yeah some implementations are

reef patrol
sudden imp
astral haven
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lina khan has been doing it a bunch

pale sigil
halcyon moss
pale sigil
halcyon moss
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I've used it 20 years ago, never paid for it

halcyon moss
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That's just one of many vnc clients

pale sigil
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Aye

halcyon moss
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Rdp not an option?

wheat plume
wheat plume
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I thought the US would be all for this though
Late stage capitalism and pulling as much money from people as possible

ashen spindle
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scroll up like 10 lines

astral haven
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its just non boomers being elected to important positions

sharp badger
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Maybe i need to change name and get that money lol 🤑

scenic thunder
wheat plume
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aha

pale sigil
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But I don't like how it logs the user out, however id imagine that's also something you can fix.

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However I also used realvnc on my other devices/Linux.

It was just convenient and secure.

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I used to use TeamViewer but moved away from them when people got hacked and I also tried any desk but I very much dislike it.

crimson wigeon
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RustDesk.
It's written in Rust so it must be amazing!

ashen spindle
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rust really is like linux

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has good usecases and would be so much better if people could stop jerking it and talk about it normally dogekek

smoky frigate
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what would constitute talking normally about it? usually users give it shit where it deserves it

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the "true believer" types are rarely taken seriously

ashen spindle
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just had to witness one of these a few times recently so its got a stronger impression on my mind right now lol

smoky frigate
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well that can happen 😛

sharp badger
sudden imp
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I do like how they did their dongnle

lyric hatch
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Rumored to be $250 USD

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I'll pass

balmy vector
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Holy

sharp badger
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Second M3K batch is arriving on June 23

sudden imp
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And you’ll probably get a even worse experience

lyric hatch
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Idk asus probably wouldn't blatantly lie about specs

sharp badger
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https://youtu.be/1T02xb-H8QE?si=3eJXSgVpA9Q9sFKA&t=1094 Linked the carbon mouse here & yeah, projected price is $249

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lyric hatch
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But yeah full carbon fibre just for the mouse to be 47g anyway

sharp badger
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Do like that it's not full of holes and it's not as small as the M3K & the Arye FCC1 looks decent too but don't like the holes

lyric hatch
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I can't justify spending $250 on a mouse from asus

sharp badger
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Yeah can always wait for sales

lyric hatch
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Most expensive mouse I've purchased recently was $140

sharp badger
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Still happy with the G502 X LS, wish it would be available in Grey though

sudden imp
lyric hatch
sudden imp
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True

lyric hatch
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Can buy it in a actual shop and RMA through the shop instead of having to deal with Asus at all

sharp badger
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Maybe things will change after this meeting with Steve, time will tell

pale sigil
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But you need to pay for a login

pale sigil
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Well then

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Ty, I think I'll check this out more.

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Hmm it still doesn't address the whole saved clients aspect

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People suggest just using favourites

pale sigil
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New record I think?

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On my 4g

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Nope nvm it's not

jade lintel
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o shit

marsh glade
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It will also come to all of the Flaretech boards

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Just a little later

marsh glade
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One orange braincell?

woven laurel
marsh glade
woven laurel
ashen spindle
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oh great another chanel to mute dogekek

tidal frost
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will the 60he+ go 8k or no? in the future possibly? or is that more of a hardware thing?

marsh glade
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Hardware

ashen spindle
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a future hardware revision might but has to be new hardware

tidal frost
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ahhh wondering if that 8k difference will be that huge to me. i was pretty confident in getting the 80 and now im thinking the 60. i think i could live with the arrow keys missing. what i have now is a 60 but i got a pcb that allows arrow keys and make the other keys next to it smaller

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doesnt seem to bad to wanna use the arrow keys on the 60HE

ashen spindle
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wont make a difference just get what layout you prefer

tidal frost
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true. im thinking a lot of ppl are going more towards tkl (makes me think thats the better option) this has my brain going crazy tonight haha

zenith silo
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I don't use arrows often aside from certain games which I can just use a keyboard profile/fn layer for

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You can setup an fn layer toggle for arrow keys

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Or use mod tap but I haven't messed with that

ashen kindle
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yeah i got no problems with my arrow keys on 60he

lilac wren
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Who makes low pofile key caps for the wootings?

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Am I able to change the shortcut map;s? Like change the volume down from FN+Home to FN+page dn?

zenith silo
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you can rebind literally any key/key on fn layers on your keyboard

hasty thunder
ashen kindle
zenith silo
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my / was the distinction between the two

tidal frost
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Alright I’ll most likely go 60HE

It’s just do I buy a whole board now as is and swap the case once I get it

Or pay just under $20 to wait till July to get the module and switches 😅

zenith silo
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if you arent getting a case upgrade right away id just go prebuilt

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but if you plan on swapping it immediately might as well go module

tidal frost
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I already have a case, I’d just throw it in the one I have now

zenith silo
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which case is it?

hasty thunder
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it depends on your needs and personal preference. You can go crazy with the 60HE in any way you like

tidal frost
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It’s more or so do I wanna wait 😂

tidal frost
zenith silo
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the tofu?

hasty thunder
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Still have to buy some ShitSeries keycaps for my Bamboozle...

zenith silo
hasty thunder
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that's exactly what it is for

zenith silo
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its fucking perfect at doing it

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but its so cursed......

tidal frost
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I’m too pumped, don’t wanna wait 😂😂

hasty thunder
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i mean i broke an entire Apex Pro Mini for it, salvaged the springs and stems, put them in L60 switch housings, put a 60HE PCB into the case, put a black PC plate in without any kind of foam, put the same stupid SteelSeries stabs in

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it was a lengthy product for trolling at the end and it was worth it

zenith silo
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does steelseries not even use plate foam for the apex?

hasty thunder
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nope

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they don't use any foam whatsoever

zenith silo
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thats, kinda dumb for the price LOL

hasty thunder
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i mean... they use a 5mm thick ABS case, which feels more like 3-4mm, they use a cheap aluminum plate that gets scuffed the moment you get close to it with anything out of metal, the cheap ass keycap puller breaks the moment the keycaps are a bit too tight

zenith silo
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and that costs, basically the same as a 60he, some models of it even more dogekek

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ah shitseries you surprise me in the worst ways....

hasty thunder
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you're paying more for the name than actual quality when it comes to ShitSeries

zenith silo
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makes sense

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paying for a name that isnt even good havo

ashen kindle
zenith silo
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memes

hasty thunder
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because i had a spare PCB anyway

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and rather than giving that atrocity of a ShitSeries product i decided to go ham. No i can hand over my Wooting Bamboozle to any shitseries fanboy and when they say it doesn't behave like a SteelSeries Apex i'll be there like: "oh really?"

unkempt lake
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Tmw new build won't collaborate

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I just got annoyed

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I'll deal with this tommorow

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No power no lights nothing

ashen kindle
hasty thunder
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exactly

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then i open up Wootility and surprise, surprise. It's not an Apex Pro

final oak
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i keep getting a permission denied when trying to create a .rules file on linux

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even with sudo

hasty thunder
final oak
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i got it working thanks, i was originally using echo

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fixed is running sudo touch 70-wooting.rules

mild dome
frozen ingot
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the triple A game of automobiles

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release broken and unfinished at an inflated price tag and let the customers do the beta testing

rough osprey
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lol

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maybe without the inflated price tag tho

old marlin
rough osprey
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similar electric trucks kinda cost the same

halcyon moss
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its too expensive anyway

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and too big

misty saffron
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any mice that are basically superlight but not logitech?

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i broke my “never buy logitech” rule and i’ve now paid for it. scrollwheel broke

rough osprey
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razer viper v3 pro is pretty similar

tender scarab
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Would be kinda the same everywhere now tbh most of them put all the budget in the commercial non-sense and when the production moment come.... well no budget anymore eheheh.... So yeah some years ago i treated myself a G903 + the charching mat (That charge with they proprietary protocol instead of just basic wireless charging ) well fast forward 2y (and looking internet i've been lucky) and on of the click what acting up... They cheap out on the switches.... just went to my local micro hardware shop they had it, 2euros later i have 5 replacement switches and after one soldering session it's better than brand new but this trouble lead me to so many simillar problem for all big vendors

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Funilly enough i heard of wooting around the same time and well i long for my 80he to arrive, and if one day they start to make mice i'm instantlly switching even if i loose the wireless part

gusty kiln
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There's also the zowie U2

misty saffron
misty saffron
misty saffron
rough osprey
misty saffron
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(i don’t give a flying fuck about rgb or 4khz polling or whatever fancy shit there is)

rough osprey
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would still say the big two are pretty good reliability wise

wheat vault
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Was wondering if someone could answer these questions: Does Wooting’s analog movement compete with a controller? Do Xbox’s read wooting’s input the same as they would a controller? If a guy is ximming against me, does his Wooting 60HE trick in-game software such as mouse trap into believing he is playing on controller?

steep creek
vagrant pagoda
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Wooting has nothing to do with mouse

steep creek
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ok fair

gusty kiln
misty saffron
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now i’m interested

gusty kiln
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Attack shark, jazz, mchose

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Those 3 have a shape that it's pretty close

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But not exact

misty saffron
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mchose is an excellent brand name

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i’m getting that

gusty kiln
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The A5 model

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Almost all of them are slightly smaller than the gpx though

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If that is an issue

misty saffron
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this actually seems really good what the hell

gusty kiln
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Rate of return dogenek

misty saffron
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not 18 million cameras at least

balmy vector
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Rotund

gusty kiln
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There should be a solid shell plastic one

misty saffron
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honestly i’d try the baller one since it’s so cheap anyways

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thanks

gusty kiln
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How much is it?

misty saffron
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about 80 euro

gusty kiln
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The pro version?

misty saffron
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pro max, apparently

gusty kiln
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Oh damn

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Apple mm

misty saffron
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recently i’ve noticed the chinese love slapping pro on literally everything

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they be calling cars like phones

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chery tiggo 8 pro 💀

gusty kiln
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Get the bubble gum color

misty saffron
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oh if i didn’t have terribly sweaty hands

gusty kiln
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The holes should help with that actually

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Lmao

misty saffron
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yeah the thing that worries me is it’ll become far more disgusting far quicker

gusty kiln
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Yeah...

wheat plume
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Surface has OLED screen now, hek

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but the keyboard is still 250 dollars extra .-.

reef patrol
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Buy a 60HE and get some good coffee for that money.

wheat plume
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WAIT WAIT 439 DOLLARS for the keyboard and pen combo

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🤢

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WTF microsoft

empty wren
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Windows precision mousepad with glass. if they are still using alacantra for the keyboard body must feel nice.

wheat plume
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it feels nice but id worry too much about getting it dirty and stained

astral haven
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the expensive one is also capable of being wireless now

wheat plume
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the keyboard?

balmy vector
steep creek
wheat plume
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ahhh, thats useful

ashen spindle
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lmao its a sucha mess with the changes about recall that instead of getting SDXE reviews today media only gets new models so we dont really get any relevant info still lol

wheat plume
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Ok, the base Surface is still LCD display but at least it starts with 16GB RAM unlike a Macbook or Mac Mini

ashen spindle
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yeah but the base SDX cpus appear to be shit so you likely want to upgrade those which is more than the ram lel

steep creek
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the name copilot+ pc is kinda weird to me

wheat plume
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ok, you can get the cheaper keyboard

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and a constant reminder about the Pen you dont have built right in!

astral haven
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you dont always see the pen

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the pen storage area is generally magneted up to the surface

wheat plume
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yeah if you angle the keyboard, I do like that feature

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most other keyboard cases cant angle like that

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even the iPad keyboard case cant angle

astral haven
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dont really think of it as a keyboard case

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its just a keyboard, case is separate

wheat plume
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oh wait, yeah

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the Surface already has a kickstand on it

astral haven
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yep

wheat vault
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What I am trying to ask, are the key presses for WASD read the same way as joystick movements through xinput to the xbox?

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And does this trick games like R6 into letting ximmers playing kbm?

vagrant pagoda
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It dose nothing for mouse Input so it would trick anything for aiming, the game would see your mouse still

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You can use a wooting and a mouse with a xim like device, but wooting isn't going to do anything for mouse Input by itself

reef patrol
hybrid girder
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currently using razer huntsman, will i feel any difference if i buy a wooting?

astral haven
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isnt that a mouse?

hybrid girder
gusty kiln
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Depends on the games

hybrid girder
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valorant

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like straffing and stopping to shoot

gusty kiln
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Probably yeah

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Rapid trigger gives you more room for error

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Rather than any sort of improvement

latent mural
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Hello guys, I need a fast 240hz monitor. Send links for me budget 500$

tidal frost
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Decided to go 60 over the 80. Hope I made the right choice

gusty kiln
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Snapdragon x elite reviews are out, basically a M3

empty wren
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Well that is a good sign

ashen spindle
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not really many reviews just some asus reviews because they changed the recall feature

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and so far it's definitely not a m3 lol

wheat plume
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now Microsoft need to hold their end of the bargin and make a good x64 to arm translation layer that doesnt wipe out 50% of the performance of the app

ashen spindle
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lana we already have a translation layer

wheat plume
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yeah

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but it reduces app performance by like 50%

ashen spindle
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no?

wheat plume
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I sqaw in two reviews they shpwed benchmarks about it

ashen spindle
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benchmarks of what

wheat plume
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the new x elite chip running arm and x64 versions of the same app

ashen spindle
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yes I asked WHAT

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what app

wheat plume
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davinci resolve

halcyon moss
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Dave2d says 10%

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Which is really really good

wheat plume
ashen spindle
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yeah its still a translation layer but 50% is not a norm of performance loss

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even older layers werent that bad in general

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still no big reason to get them but it's an option

unkempt lake
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My upgrade was a disaster

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@ashen spindle

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Lol

ashen spindle
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lol how so

unkempt lake
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No power no lights no fans nothing
Rebuilt the entire thing
Different psu tested
Ram different slots and shit
Tested with bare minimum

hasty thunder
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did you re-seat the CPU?

unkempt lake
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It boots without the cpu

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Lol

hasty thunder
unkempt lake
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But doesn't boot with it no power no lights nothing

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Time to try a bios flashback

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Cross my fingers

hasty thunder
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probably outdated BIOS

unkempt lake
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Possible

ashen spindle
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one ram slot?

unkempt lake
ashen spindle
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stick I mean, tried it with one stick?

unkempt lake
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Tried no ram either to see if i could het the ram light to turn on

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Lol

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It did nothing

scenic thunder
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when i built my fiancé's computer i had to do a bios upgrade before it would do literally anything. Weird B550 board issue with AMD. they had a program where they would fully mail you an older cpu so you could do the upgrade and then mail it back to them.

unkempt lake
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I have a feel like either

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The cpu a dud and is shorting something

unkempt lake
ashen spindle
scenic thunder
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Yeah i figure were a few years out of that issue, sounds more like a dead CPU

astral haven
gusty kiln
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Motherboard might be old stock without a recent bios for x3D

unkempt lake
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It was a later release

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I looked it up

astral haven
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next to your cpu it says bios ver All?

unkempt lake
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Supports it from the initial bios

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7E16v10.zip

analog sinew
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do you have another cpu to try?

unkempt lake
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No

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@analog sinew first amd cpu since my old athlon from when i was a child lol

misty matrix
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interesting, had a similar thing happen to a pc I was working on

analog sinew
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sadge

unkempt lake
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I have a bunch of intel cpus lying around and ddr3 and 4 tho

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Lmao

misty matrix
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was driving me nuts, but I am 99% sure that it is just the mobo

ashen spindle
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did you do a linus to your cpu before you put it in xD

misty matrix
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tried diff ram, tried diff cpus

misty matrix
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tested psu

unkempt lake
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Also you can see in the pic the pins look perfect

misty matrix
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not sure what was wrong with the motherboard exactly, but it was the mobo

ashen spindle
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that is not high resolution enough to see if the pins are ok xD

misty matrix
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returned it, and will see what happens

unkempt lake
ashen spindle
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any pc store around where you could test the cpu or the board?

unkempt lake
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I mean the only place that still did proper repairs around here was the one i worked for when i was in college a few years back and they closed like 3 months ago

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My closest best buy has a 7800x3d in stock

ashen spindle
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just meant a store that has one you can borrow or so, doesnt have to be a repair place

unkempt lake
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I mean idk what their return policy is

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Could be worth a shot

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The first 7800x3d was from amazon

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I could easily return it

ashen spindle
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I mean if you just ask to borrow one or can bring the pc in to try it in person that might work

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oh yeah right, forgot not every place has EU warranty

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where you can just return it withing two weeks without any reason

unkempt lake
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I'm thinking

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Return the cou to amazon cuz they have their whole 30 day easy return policy

woven laurel
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not sure if its good

unkempt lake
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And drive to buy to buy tommorow and pick up a 7800x3d

ashen spindle
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get another cpu and board and try what the issue is and send backj whatever doesnt work to amazon dogekek

woven laurel
unkempt lake
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Both the cpu and the biard were from amazon...

ashen spindle
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well yeah if the board is broken another cpu isn't fixing it

unkempt lake
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Hmmm

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Honestly may be the smartest choice

ashen spindle
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so if you get both you have a second set to try or just see if after a cpu swap it works and then you dont even need to unbox the board

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more stuff to handle but better than waiting another day if its the board

gusty kiln
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oof man, rare to see a DOA cpu nowadays

ashen spindle
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could be the board

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my first 8600k died after a day but havent gotten a DOA piece yet

misty matrix
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it really should be the board

unkempt lake
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Well im gonna have to wait

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Thunder

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Be going crazy

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Lights flickering

ashen spindle
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meanwhile I got to have fun and find out why said 8600k pc that is now my proxmox servers just randomly hangs like once a day

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just freezes up with nothing in the log that says anything

unkempt lake
ashen spindle
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if that doesnt randomly hang sure dogekek

unkempt lake
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Lol

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I'm just sitting here

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Waiting for lightning storm to stop

umbral heron
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Perfect weather to nap nod

ashen spindle
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I wish proxmox had the windows event viewre since that could likely tell me whats going on lol

umbral heron
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dmesg and journalctl?

ashen spindle
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is the systemlog tab not showing journalctl? dmes idk what that is so I guess I take a look at that

umbral heron
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I think tab in proxmox shows /var/log/syslog and not /var/log/journal, but I'm not 100% sure

ashen spindle
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ok how do I read dmesg, that doesnt seemt o have a timestamp lol

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also there is no syslog so I assumed it would show the journal but idk

umbral heron
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dmesg -T will show timestamps

ashen spindle
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ty

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oh it doesnt show anything from before me rebooting the pc

umbral heron
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journalctl shows info from previous boots with -b

ashen spindle
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yeah I tried journalctl -o short-precise -k -b -1 but that stops like some hours before it stopped working

umbral heron
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Try journalctl --since "2024-06-18 12:00" for example

ashen spindle
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that worked

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but also confirms its just what the system log tab showed so no useful info sadly

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session closed then new successful auth because it just did the reconnect via the webui and then next line is the reboot

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this si the only thing colored and while it should be fine there are reports that some people had issues so I guess trying to apply the microcode patch would be one thing

umbral heron
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Probably something Debian 12 related and not proxmox related
Upgrading to deb12 is a headache

ashen spindle
umbral heron
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Oh yeah, that too dogekek

ashen spindle
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this is insane how can this be so convoluted

crisp sandal
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Guys my wooting stopped working After a pc restart

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Is this a known Problem

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?

ashen spindle
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replug the keyboard and dont press a button while you reconnect it

crisp sandal
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Okay so i start the pc unplugd

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An then Plug it in

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The keyboard didnt get connected and the led did Not Work

ashen spindle
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sounds like a pc issue then or something, make a thread in the support section

crisp sandal
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The cable still World

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Works

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My other keyboard still works fine

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When i use the wooting Cable

umbral heron
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Have you tried to connect it to some other PC?

crisp sandal
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Yes

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Still Not working but the other works again

ashen spindle
umbral heron
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Or lsusb if on Linux

crisp sandal
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The device Manager is Not even refreshing

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So the keyboard Not Even get connected

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Where should is restore?

umbral heron
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How about Windows Settings (Win + I) and Devices menu?

crisp sandal
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DM

umbral heron
ashen spindle
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ok microcode warning is gone lets see if that causes it because otherwise I have no clue since there is nothing at all in the logs

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celebrated too early, now pihole isnt responding but HA/proxmox is at least still there

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nevermind it just changed the ip for pihole lel

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guess that can happen but if this stops rebooting I dont need to look out for that

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so time to wait and hope it stays online I guess

vagrant pagoda
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who is buying readio telescopes on fb marketplace

severe marten
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Me

hybrid girder
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bread

umbral heron
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It is done evilDeadge
ffmpeg -i $1 -vf "crop=3/4*in_w:in_h" -c:v mpeg4 -q:v 5 -tag:v DIVX -s 768x576 -c:a libmp3lame -q:a 5 -ac 2 -ar 44100 $2
Converts 16:9 video to 4:3 divx I can watch on PS2 with SMS

wheat plume
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.....ffmpeg commands still look far far less decipherable than PHP to me

unkempt lake
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Guys

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Power is back

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And no more lightning

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Its time

rough osprey
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very creative

unkempt lake
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Bios flashback didnt save it

gusty kiln
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shame I like the FE design

unkempt lake
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New mobo and cpu ordered

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Again

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I'll pop in the new cpu

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Return the old one as defective if need be

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And the extra mobo i'll return it as not needed sealed

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If i don't need it

gusty kiln
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how fast will it ship?

unkempt lake
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Motherboard saturday

balmy vector
misty saffron
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i wish more earphones had pinch gestures(?)

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just so much better than awkwardly tapping on some surface and works in gloves

cosmic thunder
old marlin
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With one of their pixels

cosmic thunder
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pixel buds?

old marlin
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No

unkempt lake
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Does anyone want to bet on what the actual culprit will be

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Cpu? Or motherboard

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🧠 reaction for cpu
🤰 reaction for motherboard

fleet parrot
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for?

unkempt lake
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My new build

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Shit's fucked i think i have a dud cpu

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But im technically not 100% sure

fleet parrot
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Does it post?

unkempt lake
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Basically pc will not get ANY power if a cpu is inserted in the socket

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No fans no lights nothing

fleet parrot
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Did you try an old cpu?

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old compatible*

unkempt lake
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Without the cpu gets stuck on the cpu light but fans soin and i get power

unkempt lake
fleet parrot
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Ah

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I'm gonna say cpu

unkempt lake
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That's what im thinking too

fleet parrot
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Let me know anything

unkempt lake
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Bios flashback did the all is good light pattern

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So its why i really feel like it must be the cpu

unkempt lake
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Just in case it may be the mobo after all

reef patrol
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Without another CPU, Motherboard and RAM, you can be guessing till the cows come home unfortunately.

fleet parrot
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Wait did you check everything was compatiable?

unkempt lake
unkempt lake
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So i think the ram is safe

reef patrol
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Only one way to find out.

unkempt lake
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I just want it to be friday

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So i can have my shit running

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And enjoy the long weekend

fleet parrot
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I wish you luck

unkempt lake
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Cuz its quebec national day next monday

wraith steppe
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@vague flint but yeah omen 27qs

marsh pewter
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my nova 7 just died

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it wouldnt turn on and there was no indicator when charging

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I had to take the ear cushion off and reset it

umbral heron
halcyon moss
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its just something you construct with a manual. once
and then never touch it again 😄

marsh pewter
umbral heron
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I don't think PS2 will support AV1 decoding anytime soon dogekek

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I think we've successfully made isopropyl vinegar at work thonk

halcyon moss
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wtf

umbral heron
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Dunno, but whole blade enclosure smells like vinegar now duck_sip

pale sigil
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It could also not be as concentrated as you suspected/told

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I've had it with some I had for ages and barely used.

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I just binned it

umbral heron
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It's not mine, just some bottle we had laying around in the office, so there may be something else mixed in there too thonk

young trail
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Hello, I'm wondering if the Gateron Jade Switches are the same as the GATERON KS-20 Magnetic White Hall Sensor Switch Set ?(https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-magnetic-white-switch-set?VariantsId=10681)

'Cause full white sounds better for RBG to me, firstly, and also because it's a little cheaper 🥲

Also, I'm considering cerakeys, do you have recommandations for springs to fit well with the gateron switches please ?

Thanks c:

Gateron

Tip ! This switch is only compatible with keyboard fit lekker switch-Wooting. • Type: Linear • Operating Force:30gf • Total Travel: 4.1±0.2mm• Initial magnetic flux: 102Gs• Bottom-out magnetic flux: 905Gs• Action travel: Freely setting • Spring: 15mm • LED Support:SMD • Pre-lubed: Yes • Lifetime: 100 million

umbral heron
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For RGB the color of bottom housing doesn't matter, only the color of the top housing, and it is transparent on both Jades and Whites
As for differences - Jades have closed bottom, so they have different sound

burnt epoch
ashen spindle
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You would need some hardware to test it any website can only give you inaccurate results

strong plaza
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any reccomended settings for the wooting UwU in Osu?

vagrant pagoda
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Something like a arm micro running USB host. Have it firing a solenoid with a load cell. Timing the difference in the USB response vs the load cell would give you the latency

ashen spindle
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you would need something like that

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(no there is no website or simple cheap thing to get accurate latency measurements)

marsh pewter
unkempt lake
ashen spindle
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nothing too relevant

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the part they are selling isn't showing stuff that would be worth for any leaks or anything, at most some orders to guess what they do and personal data from people working at other companies but just name an business data etc.

gusty kiln
ashen spindle
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

umbral heron
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Oh great, Linux now has its own BSoD

crimson wigeon
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Good

pale sigil
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Any laptop news @ashen spindle

ashen spindle
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still the same, amd laptops start middle next month, intel further out, snapdragon doesnt look great

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so wait longer or get something older

pale sigil
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Pain

ashen spindle
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and again the amd laptops especially arent going to be cheap

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so if you look at not high end current gen will be the better deal

ashen spindle
little silo
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Don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I wanted to know if anyone knew how much bandwith actually gets used in a call.

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Likewise, how much data is being used when I stay in a call?

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Will it drive my internet bill high? If I'm in calls that last days or more

fair gull
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the discord bandwidth

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not yours

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watching a youtube video per day is prob worse than a week of discord calls

ashen spindle
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calls use almost nothing on your end if you just do voicecalls and dont do videostreams or anything

little silo
ashen spindle
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no he means bandwidth on discords end

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not what goes through your network

fair gull
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yes on your end is basically nothing

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but for discords servers its a lot of data going around

little silo
ashen spindle
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oh YOU mean to ask what is uses on discords end?

little silo
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Yep!

ashen spindle
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still not a lot but it adds up since they obviously have every single call going on

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so random accounts just being in empty calls could be one way to ddos them quite easily otherwise and such

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as well as some extra overhead depending on how they handle data, hard to say

fair gull
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well its definitely more than for you since they have to do a lot of internal back and forth, advertising to people that youre in a voice chat (dm calls would be lighter on this due to limited scope) and also having to keep ports open and such

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its a lot of small things that just need to be kept in check at a scale of discord

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the main thing is also that bandwidth costs money in general so no matter how little it takes up theyd want to reduce it as much as possible.

unkempt lake
little silo
unkempt lake
little silo
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oops haha

little silo
fair gull
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although there also is ways to force dm calls to last indefinitely

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especially with how broken discord mobile is

little silo
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That's the thing, if I were to force a call to last, say a week, how much bandwidth on average would that use?

fair gull
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from just you still basically nothing

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lets say 500k users doing it (not too many in discords scale tbh) it can be gigabytes in a double or triple digit range prob

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the main issue really is just the pure scale of their network and how many users are active at any given time that makes it best to enforce disconnects after X minutes alone in a DM call

unkempt lake
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Woosh

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@pale sigil your move

little silo
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there's two Dogebots?

little silo
unkempt lake
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Unless you use video