🔌│tech

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ its a non streamed ms event so im waiting till we get first results

[gusty kiln]

if the battery life is god-tier, then I might consider

[ashen spindle]

if battery is the main concern I would say lunar lake is probably the choice

no point dealing with WoA and translation or driver isssues of adreno for barely any benefit

yes its better and all but there isnt really an advantage

https://x.com/RyanSmithAT/status/1792654940919488963

Ryan Smith (@RyanSmithAT) on X

The lack of details on which chip SKU is being used in most of the Snapdragon X Elite laptops being announced today leaves me rather concerned. There are 3 different Elite SKUs, and on paper, there's a pretty sizeable difference between the top and bottom chips

Twitter · May 20, 2024, 8:33 PM

[lyric hatch]

Strix just makes me think of asus

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmLJlXALJuc

Apple part philosophy manages to make me angry once more. Tiny crack in the -glass- with an otherwise perfectly intact panel.

But of course the two are fused by Apple - even though there is literally no sensible reason for doing so. Hell the iPad doesn't even do that (or didn't at the time I repaired those)

[steep creek]

some testing with snapdragon tho idk if it’s reliable or not https://signal65.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/NewSurfaceLaptop2024_Signal65LabInsights.pdf

[sweet cairn]

If my mouse clicks sometimes just don't click, does that mean it's dying or is there some dirty or something i need to clean?

It literally happens like once a month for like 5 minutes then its back to normal, driving me crazy.

[final flame]

can someone please do me a favor
real simple, if you have a 1440p non ultrawide monitor on windows 11 set to 100% scaling
just take a screenshot of your taskbar

appreciate it

[balmy vector]

Heres how it looks from my phone from me sitting at my normal spot, about a bit over an arms length in my case

[final flame]

sorry but I'll need a screenshot as I need to do pixel measurements of the taskbar height

[balmy vector]

will this work?

[final flame]

yes, thank you

[balmy vector]

[grave dome]

is a GTX 1650 a good graphics card to switch to? i have a low end budget ibuypower pc that came with a GT 1030 and i can never record clips or run very high quality games. Im looking for good cheap graphics cards to buy and so far have high hopes for this one.

(ZOTAC Gaming GeForce GTX 1650 AMP CORE 4GB GDDR6 128-bit Gaming Graphics Card, Super Compact, ZT-T16520J-10L) btw

[zenith silo]

Whats your budget

[grave dome]

about like 180$ to 200$ max

ive heard good reviews about 1650 and 1080ti

[misty matrix]

if you can get a 1080ti that wasnt ran through for that price, defo the better choice

but keep in mind, those cards are nearing the end of their lifespan, support is running out

[grave dome]

wouldnt a 1650 be better than a 1080?

[lyric hatch]

Rx 6600 if you want new otherwise second hand

[umbral heron]

You can also look around for 5700XT, should be in the same price range

Nooooo, 1080 is way better than 1650

[lyric hatch]

1650 shouldn't even exist that card is trash

[grave dome]

i tried looking for an 1080 but most i can find it 600-1000$

[umbral heron]

1660Ti/Super is less powerful than 1070Ti, let alone 1080/Ti

[grave dome]

what would be my best option to buy for cheap?

[misty matrix]

very dependent on your local market

[grave dome]

im looking at nivida and amazon right now

[lyric hatch]

This should give you some indicator of whats better

[misty matrix]

check if you could get a used 3060 for around 200 bucks

[grave dome]

i found one on amazon for 179.99 thats called "ASUS Dual NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6GB OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card - PCIe 4.0, 6GB GDDR6 Memory, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, 2-Slot Design, Axial-tech Fan Design, 0dB Technology, Steel Bracket"

bad or nah?

[umbral heron]

3050 is around 1660Ti/Super or so

Maybe try looking around for an used one?

You can get way more bang for buck this way

[misty matrix]

a 3050 will be alright, but going used in this price bracket is defo the way

[lyric hatch]

Hop on ebay or w/e equivalent you have

[misty matrix]

3060/ti 6600xt/6700xt are good candidates

[lyric hatch]

Also if your PC came with a 1030 I don't think the psu is going to be able to handle any of these cards

[misty matrix]

6700xt should be the fastest on average, so if you can get one in your price bracket go ahead

[grave dome]

those are my cpu and gpu stats

[umbral heron]

8G of RAM That's going to be a bit of an issue too

[grave dome]

im not that big of a pc guy but if the ram is the stick things in the case i have 2 slots open for those

[lyric hatch]

Already chilling at 90% doing nothin

[umbral heron]

Good thing is that 11400F is still great for mid-end gaming

[lyric hatch]

Do you know how big your power supply is?

[grave dome]

like measurements or in settings

[lyric hatch]

Your PC ain't gonna tell you but it'll be written on the physical power supply or included in whatever receipt you got for it

[misty matrix]

yeah for gaming you will probably need to upgrade your ram alongside your gpu

but that should be reasonably cheap thankfully

[grave dome]

i think they stop selling the type of pc i have cause i got this one about almost 3 years ago and i cant find any close besides this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BT4PMNY4?tag=kitco079-20&geniuslink=true&th=1

[umbral heron]

3 years ago should be DDR4, so you're good

[misty matrix]

its a 600w psu if this is the model that you got

I would definitely double check though

[grave dome]

it looks about the same but mine is GT 1030

my ram sticks read FORZA on them and some lttle black box next to my grapics card reads UD series

is AMD ryzen bad? i found a pc thats 800$ about the same as mine for 749$

but it comes with a AMD ryzen 7

[misty matrix]

depends, past 2 generations of amd's processors were really good

[grave dome]

if this leads to the right one im looking at its this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CVWZKC6D?tag=kitco079-20&geniuslink=true&th=1

[misty matrix]

I'd dig up the invoice and check it to be completely sure about the psu

[grave dome]

besides the psu would that be considered a good upgrade?

id end up selling this old one after factory resetting it

[misty matrix]

if you want the best bang for the buck usually prebuilts arent the way

but if you value the convenience, sure

[grave dome]

yeah i know that much. but i know building one takes alot of knowledge and money which i dont have either of.

for a pre built this one has taken me a long way even tho its semi-bad

[misty matrix]

well building one yourself would be cheaper, especially if you already have something to work on

[lyric hatch]

I started off on prebuilts mainly because my dad didn't trust me building it myself and he helped me pay for my first PC

[grave dome]

i know pre builts are looked down upon but i know some of these arent half bad

esp for first time gaming pc owners

[misty matrix]

oh no its not that they are looked down upon lol

there are perfectly fine reasons to pick one up, no shame

however if you want to squeeze the most out of it on a budget, prebuilts usually are not the way

[grave dome]

id do a custom built but i dont really understand all the parts and building process so i just stuck to pre builts

[raw zephyr]

it's like lego, just watch a youtube video

[misty matrix]

upgrading a prebuilt is a really good way to get into building

while building a pc isnt something thats completely basic, it also isnt rocket science

[umbral heron]

Rule of thumb is - if you have to use hammer, you're doing it wrong

[reef patrol]

Depends on what kind of prebuilt.

A lot of them are far too proprietary to be worth the effort.

[grave dome]

i feel like an idiot when it comes to pc knowledge and building like earlier you asked about psu and literally had to look up what it meant

[grave dome]

in this case IBUYPOWER

[misty matrix]

well yeah true that, but I was thinking more like swapping out a gpu or ram etc

also ibp doesnt have prop stuff, right?

[grave dome]

how do i check ram size?

[misty matrix]

but hey you learned something, thats how you get into things ykno

cant expect to know everything right away

[reef patrol]

IBP uses off the shelf parts, so that's good.

[grave dome]

fair point

[reef patrol]

I was mainly referring to HP and other big OEMs

[umbral heron]

HWInfo will tell you pretty much everything about your PC

[misty matrix]

alternatively you can also check it in task manager

[grave dome]

found it

[lyric hatch]

Yeah probably worth chucking another 8gb in

[misty matrix]

or better yet just get a 16gb kit and sell/trash this one

[lyric hatch]

Yeah probably more safe that way

Good thing ddr4 is pretty cheap

[rough patrol]

Or get a 32gig kit

[umbral heron]

It's so ugly... I love it so much

[rough patrol]

Does it have like a shine if you move it under a light source?

Or are those colors printed on

[umbral heron]

I think it does have holo background

[rough patrol]

Ok that makes it a lot better

I still think having the different color fans is ugly, just pick one and stick with it

But holo good

[umbral heron]

If Yeston would make 7900xt/xtx with their previous design, I'd get it in a heartbeat

[rough patrol]

That‘s pretty

[raw zephyr]

whats the point of such cards? i just put my pc on the floor and never see it

[misty matrix]

well then, for you?

probably no point

[raw zephyr]

they cost more and you don't get any benefit from it

[umbral heron]

Eh, they cost about the same as other ones

[raw zephyr]

some fancy white 4090 costs 400€ more than a super generic one at local store

[misty matrix]

a fancy white 4090, which one?

mayhaps the strix one?

[raw zephyr]

yes indeed

[misty matrix]

but yeah a lot of them are just flex for an average customer

[umbral heron]

Oh, an ROG brick

[misty matrix]

if you wanna see a really fancy one

check out the 4090 matrix

[umbral heron]

Looks cool too
I don't think I like it that much, would be much better without REPUBLIC OF GAMERS plastered everywhere

[misty matrix]

as much as I dont really like the rog stuff

the matrix looks really nice

[raw zephyr]

i got the cheapest 7900xtx i could find, asrock phantom gaming or something

performs the same as others

[misty matrix]

welll...

[umbral heron]

Yeah, it's the cheapest one of the bunch here too

[misty matrix]

at stock it probably does more or less

[umbral heron]

Not sure if I should go all in for 7900xtx or for 7800xt

[reef patrol]

The point is for a setup like this.
https://imgur.com/a/cyberduck-v3-49-however-many-revisions-were-QVTYZp7

[rough patrol]

I‘m waiting for next gpu gen, surely those are realistic price wise

[reef patrol]

If that's not for you, then a pretty GPU obviously has no value for you 😄

[misty matrix]

at this point, probably wait till next gen

[umbral heron]

RDNA4 will be that much better? I dunno, especially since right after release there won't be any deals for it

[misty matrix]

will it be? not sure, cant really tell

however prices of current gen will go down

so worst case scenario you will get a cheaper 7X00xt

also since you mentioned professional workloads, might be wise to consider nvidia

however I can recommend the 7900xtx from first hand experience, never had issues with it, runs good, ocs well etc

rather powerful too

I mean, as one would expect probably

[umbral heron]

Nvidia? Fuck no
7900xtx is 4000zł, 4080Super is 5k, 4090 is 8~9k

[lyric hatch]

You can probably expect a decent jump in RT performance and a small bump in raster

[zenith silo]

Who cares about ray tracing though

[misty matrix]

you can get a 4080 super for 4300

and as much as I like amd, since I am primarily a gamer

cuda is pretty much noncontestable right now for prof workloads

obv there are edgecases

[lyric hatch]

Nvidia

[misty matrix]

but yeah, most of the time nvidia will take the cake for gpu productivity

[umbral heron]

I don't use CUDA
I need lotsa CPU and RAM, I don't really care about GPU, should my brother's one wasn't dying I would stay by my 6700XT

[misty matrix]

what apps do you use?

[umbral heron]

For work? Mostly VMs, docker containers, kubernetes stuff

[misty matrix]

ah I see

how much ram do you use when running your vms? im curious

[umbral heron]

8GB or so? I could easily trigger OOM while on 32GB
Now I have 64 in my work laptop, I can more or less comfortably work on it

[misty matrix]

what os do you work on?

[umbral heron]

Arch mostly, that's my main OS, I do use Rocky and Fedora too sometimes

[misty matrix]

nice

have you considered jumping on a workstation platform?

[lime agate]

Even on the floor it can be beautiful

[umbral heron]

Wouldn't that be an overkill? I just want a PC for a bit of work and a bit of gaming

[misty matrix]

to a certain extent yea

but if you virtualize a lot might be worth considering

good to have headroom if you use it for work

[ashen spindle]

Threadripper would mean quadruple the price, lower the gaming performance and remove upgrade paths which all doesn’t sound like it would fit for the bill for what the system is supposed to do

[misty matrix]

well, since this is for some time in the future, maybe a more suitable workstation platform will come out :)

[ashen spindle]

If you look at how delayed they come out compared to desktop platforms, that would be end of next year at the earliest then

[misty matrix]

mayhaps

[lyric hatch]

AMD really shafted those early threadripper adopters

[halcyon moss]

dont buy things on future promises

[tacit badge]

i was not expecting a femboy in the wild

[lyric hatch]

true that

[halcyon moss]

the only future promise i buy things on is phone software update support

[ashen spindle]

Neat https://www.jedec.org/sites/default/files/Tom_Schnell_FINAL_ 2024-05-03.pdf

First slides showing how next gen ram looks like on desktop

[umbral heron]

I like it already

[ashen spindle]

All that’s left is to hope we get a way to install lpddr6 camm without screws in time for first desktop platform

[raw zephyr]

we have different view on beautiful

[pale sigil]

Your right monitor looks way better

Angle? Panel?

[lime agate]

Lower refresh rate thoo and I cancelled the 2nd monitor, it doesn’t work cause of different hz of screen, its the alienware aw3418dw 3k 120hz curved

The left one is 4k160hz

[ashen spindle]

well, you could set the first one to 120hz and then it works

[pale sigil]

why does it look so poo though

[lime agate]

Camera angle i guess

[ashen spindle]

or if you set the secondary to 1/2 the main screens hz that could also work

[lime agate]

I bought it for 160hz cause of 120hz, i was lagging in cs2 and needed higher refresh

[ashen spindle]

unless cancelled means you dont have it anymore

[lime agate]

Its in my room on top of my closet😂

[ashen spindle]

ah well, if you want to try it again, having it on a multiplicative should also work so if its just secondary put it to 80hz with the 160hz screen

[lime agate]

I will try, so but funny enough i had to downclock to 100hz cause if i set it on 120hz the monitor will get black screen

[ashen spindle]

the other thing, as long as you dont have anything hardware accelerated on the other scrren mixing refresh rates is also fine

so if you just use it for discord for example turn off hardware accelleration and that should stop lags too

doesnt work if you watch streams or so on it of course

[lime agate]

I use discord via browser but steam has it on default

[ashen spindle]

yup, was annoying to have the steam friends list open on second screen and that alone caused frame drops lmao

[lime agate]

So if i try again, i should have the alienware put my default monitor and 80hz?

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter which one is the default, as long as the game is on the 160hz screen and the other is set to 80hz then

[lime agate]

Ah okay I get, i put the asus monitor on 1 anyway but the 80hz tip is great thanks

[ashen spindle]

its not guaranteed to work because usually thats best if its a multiplicative of 60 so might still fail but thats something to test

[lime agate]

If I tried it oneday I’ll let you know

[vagrant pagoda]

Damn Eypc 4004 doesn't even get a dual x3D sku

Also no single ccd x3D either. Just got 7900x3d/7950x3d equivalents

[pale sigil]

Ryzen 5 5625U Vs i5-1135G7

Seems somewhat similar but each has benefits.

Any input? @ashen spindle

[ashen spindle]

Ehh similar enough that I’d look at the rest of the laptop

[gusty kiln]

5625u sounds like zen 2

😬

[vagrant pagoda]

It's Z3

Zen3 with vega I believe

[ashen spindle]

Yeah it’s cezanne so zen3

[vagrant pagoda]

2 year old soc

[ashen spindle]

Basically close enough that I’d look at screen or battery size and stuff instead

[vagrant pagoda]

It's going to be a low end machine at this point

Like sub $400

[pale sigil]

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-255-g9-amd-ryzen-7-5825u-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-15.6-inch-windows-11-pro-lap-816r4ea/version.asp

[gusty kiln]

Perfectly fine for emails

[pale sigil]

https://uk.store.asus.com/rog/asus-vivobook-14-x1400-11th-gen-intel-206742417-90nb0tt4-m01rr0.html

16gb version

[pale sigil]

Lol a bit more than emails but sure

It'll.be used for uni pretty much

It's the better option id say

The Vivo one isn't the exact model but ye

@ashen spindle

Y'all think it's worth fixing my pixel 7a for £130?

[vagrant pagoda]

No protector?

[pale sigil]

Correct

[digital cliff]

for 130 pounds I'd just buy a new phone

[pale sigil]

Ye part of me thinks this too as I'm also kinda sick of this phone.

[ashen spindle]

Yeah honestly it’s so close that I’d just pick whatever of those laptops is found for cheaper

[misty saffron]

no

i shattered the glass on my phone and quickly learned to ignore it

sometimes i’m in awe of my ability to not give a shit

[gusty kiln]

Unless they are doing fluid simulations or compiling a lot of code, should be fine

[gusty kiln]

Pixel 8a just released

[pale sigil]

I don't want a pixel again

[pale sigil]

It cut me lol

[ashen spindle]

get a protective casing for a few bucks and continue using it would be the cheapest if its still working

[pale sigil]

Btw these laptops will only cost like £60-80

Because it's via university disability scene (she has ms) :p

[pale sigil]

Ye I'm getting mum to bring them in tomorrow

[empty wren]

Honestly if it was on the back could slap a vinyl sticker on it

[empty wren]

Maybe slap a film on that

[analog sinew]

are u in the hospital 👀

[pale sigil]

3rd week

[analog sinew]

get well soon

[gusty kiln]

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-high-performance-computing/introducing-the-new-azure-ai-infrastructure-vm-series-nd-mi300x/ba-p/4145152

[ashen spindle]

ohhh finally

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/JokLRV6KLeE?si=JTFDK1WJV8ew_y9V

[astral haven]

yea but how about xeon w 2400 competition 😦

[ashen spindle]

youll get zen5 TR (maybe)(eventually)

[astral haven]

tbh the competitor is probably gonna be halo

[ashen spindle]

ehhhh

[astral haven]

256b lpddr with 16 cores, should be higher bandwidth

w2400 is 256b d5

[ashen spindle]

I guess halo in a sense is zen6 prototype so maybe

[astral haven]

also the cheapest threadripper 7k is about on par with the most expensive w2400

actually the boards are cheaper than i remember

[smoky frigate]

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/224751/en-us/

wooo explicit sync is here

[balmy vector]

[crimson wigeon]

Nice

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah I mentioned that

No 2 ccd x3D is major L

Having 3xd on half the cores is wild for a "server" part

[tough grove]

took a couple of days of fine tuning / testing, but finally have a really stable undervolt on my 5900x, beat my oc cinebench scores with less power and running cooler!

[smoky frigate]

sudo pacman -U https://mirror.cachyos.org/nvidia/lib32-nvidia-utils-555.42.02-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst https://mirror.cachyos.org/nvidia/lib32-opencl-nvidia-555.42.02-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst https://mirror.cachyos.org/nvidia/nvidia-dkms-555.42.02-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst https://mirror.cachyos.org/nvidia/nvidia-utils-555.42.02-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst https://mirror.cachyos.org/nvidia/opencl-nvidia-555.42.02-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
try at your own risk

KDE users reported issues, according to this post it's fixed by appending NVreg_EnableGpuFirmware=0 to boot parameters

also it's a beta driver so expect some buggery

[crimson wigeon]

And then finally NV users no longer suffer from the https://megastutter.org ... if it all works, that is

[smoky frigate]

first impressions: flawless !!

playing games on gnome with VRR on, no issue so far

[tropic kettle]

If I have a mid end pc, would it be better to downgrade to windows 10??

[woven laurel]

no

[tropic kettle]

okay ty !!

where should I look to find good amd adrenaline settings?? i tried the ones on youtube and some have made my performance worse

[umbral heron]

Don'tcha mean upgrade to Windows 10?

[tropic kettle]

yeah!!

Even on my older pc my windows didn't lag this much

[umbral heron]

As for Adrenaline settings... Use defaults and enable Radeon optimizers stuff? Not sure what else there would be to change, most settings you'd change in games anyway

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/AlX1vB7ItJc?si=aU1q6ilmdcJPnOju

Turning off a lot of unneeded services and settings can help with your windows 11

[tropic kettle]

THANK YOU

[gusty kiln]

Lil bit outdated, but a seperate video to disable copilot should be enough

[smoky frigate]

windows 10 enterprise LTSC version comes with a lot less shit, it's basically the successor to windows 7 if you want to try a lightened windows OS

win11 LTSC version should release this year tho last I heard

[gusty kiln]

If you're willing to reinstall that would be nice, there's also ntlite which stripes down the normal windows install

[tropic kettle]

my pc feels way faster and it's not stuttering anymore

thank you!!

[gusty kiln]

nice

[steep nebula]

anyone know how to order the PCR frost I can only see the PCR ghost

[lyric hatch]

Can only get the frost by getting the module version of the 80he

[steep nebula]

oh thank you!!

[crystal saddle]

yo guys how do i make it when i press a key like it lights up and when i release it it goes back

[halcyon moss]

goddammit cant get this optical switch out of my keychron k3

my f3 key isnt working fully

ah these are not hotswappable

i am an idiot.. now its proper borked

[raw zephyr]

a story in 4 lines

[digital cliff]

it says hotswappable online though

[reef patrol]

Anything is hot swappable, if you apply enough heat.

What do you MEAN that's not what HOT swappable means???

[final flame]

hmm, gonna hotswap some m series storage, just give me a moment

[halcyon moss]

gotta open it up and solder it i guess :/

thats not going to be a fun job

[vagrant pagoda]

What optical switch needs solder?

[fair gull]

yeah im also confused how its not hotswap

[marsh glade]

The Logitech keyboard

[fair gull]

like are the IR LED/Photoresistor inside the switch?

because that would be the shit way to do optical switches

same for HE

[distant tapir]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1cx8c63/samsung_showcases_worlds_first_qdled_display/

Already 200 PPI. MicroLED could never...

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean MicroLED is way higher than that. Just not that large

[distant tapir]

Way higher than what?

MicroLED is all low PPI because it's hard to scale down.

[vagrant pagoda]

What

They have vr/ar displays

[distant tapir]

So this epic stuff will hit the consoomer market way sooner.

[vagrant pagoda]

Sub 1 inch full hd

And 1/3 inch VGA

[distant tapir]

Afaik that process is different.

They don't have monitor sized displays.

[vagrant pagoda]

All thousands of ppi

It's still mircoled

[distant tapir]

I'm talking about for monitors (and TVs).

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah they have 0.13 inch VGA

That's like 5000 ppi

I mean the only thing stopping MicroLED is cost

Matching and stitching panels is incredibly expensive

So it only makes sense on halo products

They could make a 4k monitor. But no one is paying 50 grand for a monitor

[distant tapir]

I don't expect we'll get high PPI MicroLED monitors this decade even.

(At a feasable cost)

QDEL all the way (for now).

[vagrant pagoda]

Eh we have seen led drop by orders of magnitudes every few years

You know qdel is a type of led display right?

[distant tapir]

Yes? What about it?

[vagrant pagoda]

It takes the same fab tech as microled

As it's just a quantum dot directly into a led instead of having a led+phosphor.

So it has all of the exact same manufacturing limitations as micro LED

You still have to fab the semiconductors in sections, then match and stitch them

Matching and stitching being the expensive part

Quantum dot is just a more efficient color conversion tech, it does not fundamentally change how a LED works or is manufactured.

[distant tapir]

But they say that QDEL is very cheap to produce.

[vagrant pagoda]

Depends on scale

But a qdel is still good ole Nakamura GaN LEDs

All hail the mighty GaN blue LED

[astral haven]

absolutely tf not lmao
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1771-5

[astral haven]

and no it doesnt, even in perfect optimal conditions you still need some vacuum deposition and spin coating steps for classic leds, the quantum dots from the qdel can be batch manufactured and turning the dots into diodes can be done by inkjet printing them

[vagrant pagoda]

I guess I never looked at the big ones

The micro qd led displays which are doing qd gan on silicon

[astral haven]

maybe the tft is gan, but any gan qd display is not gonna be qdel, it would be microled panels with qd on top

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah that's what I was referring to

They now have direct on silicon dry qd printing for micro LED displays

[astral haven]

that is an oxymoron

[vagrant pagoda]

Which is also how they are making qd pumped lasers

[astral haven]

if its a micro led display, its not direct on silicon qds

"qd pumped lasers"

i dont think you understand

there are 2 different techs
zappy the qd with electricity and get light
and
beam the qd with light and get different light

qdel cannot be the latter

qdel is only referring to the former

[vagrant pagoda]

The terminology for them all is garbage is why it's confusing

The photo they posted says qd led

[astral haven]

qd led is not light emitting quantum dots

now samsung has called their qdel qled because ew, but (not that ive seen) qd led

so yes samsung calls the real stuff qled, and lg calls lcds with qdef qled too

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah thats where I got confused the display that was posted is a MicroLED qd

And I just read a paper about how they have a dry process for doing MicroLED qd to get ultra high ppi

They print the qd then bond to the silicon

[astral haven]

ion no

[vagrant pagoda]

Dropping the qd into holes in the microled

[vagrant pagoda]

?

[astral haven]

oh i misread, i thought you were saying anything here is quantum dot microleds

[vagrant pagoda]

No just that the actual text above the monitor is qd-led

[astral haven]

yea but they clarify below

[vagrant pagoda]

Which could refer to either

[astral haven]

these are in fact quantum dot diodes

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah totally different tech

Not really been paying attention to large format

Small stuff is much more interesting

[astral haven]

i want qd phone displays asap

[vagrant pagoda]

Qd micro LED is future for VR/ar

The paper I was reading was 1500ppi

[astral haven]

meh, we have plenty of ppi already, we just need dramatically brighter

[distant tapir]

QD-LED is QDEL.

They haven't settled on naming apparently (unless QD-LED is final).

[lime agate]

guys is this normal? and should i allow acces

[final flame]

are you the only user of your PC?
are you the admin user of your PC?

[lime agate]

yes both

[vagrant pagoda]

Which is why qd on GaN is the best

[astral haven]

how is that even theoretically possible

[final flame]

very suspicious

[vagrant pagoda]

How is what?

[astral haven]

leds can only be so efficient, add in conversion requiring
1 your leds be higher wavelength to begin with (thus less stable)
2 you have another conversion process requiring more manufacturing steps

[vagrant pagoda]

It's just green and red qd on blue gan led

[astral haven]

but how about just spitting red green and blue qds on the tft directly?

[lime agate]

I think it has to something with saving and there is an setting in windows security ransomware protection and if you enable controlled solder access

I’ve played it yesterday and i did alot of missions and it took all my 1 hour of progess without saving

[final flame]

it's weird that it specifically would be added though
maybe it's just because the documents folder itself is added by default

[vagrant pagoda]

Same reason led is brighter then OLED. More heat tolerant so it can be driven harder. Aren't qd led printed on pmma still?

[lime agate]

I’ve did many malware scans with different types of software, all 0

[final flame]

eh I'd just leave it then

[astral haven]

you can print it on whatever tf you want, but its usually sio2 aka glass lol

[vagrant pagoda]

Direct to glass?

[astral haven]

you use whatever tft you want

[vagrant pagoda]

So no binder or transition is needed?

[astral haven]

pretty sure the quantum dots just rest mechanically on the tft

be it ltpo, igzo, or whatever else new abominations the world hath wrought

on qd microdisplays, the silicon would only be used for wiring, which you would probably just do via standard copper in silicon processes

[vagrant pagoda]

I thought pedot on pmma was the hotness for OLED and qd

Still tft on glass isn't as thermally efficient as silicon

[astral haven]

yea if you want to make flexible versions of x

[astral haven]

who gaf, its 10 bajillion times cheaper

[lime agate]

The game is saving now so i guess it worked and that was the issue

[astral haven]

again tho you still arent doing gan, even if you use atomic silicon, you would be using it with emissive quantum dots, not gan leds then quantum conversion

[gusty kiln]

https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/1792953227841015897?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1792953227841015897|twgr^6b190903184e2c2c0cdd68c7fb332459f26fc18b|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F1cxu8rc%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dtrue

Ryan Shrout (@ryanshrout) on X

Best price to performance on GPT-4? @satyanadella says it’s on @AMD and the MI300X.

Twitter · May 21, 2024, 4:18 PM

just like radeon, but seems like people are actually buying it

[ashen spindle]

nah unlike radeon it also outperforms

[gusty kiln]

but better price/perf means they are not making as big as margins. thus stock goes mid

[ashen spindle]

I mean its lower margin compared to one unit sales sure

they still have high margins like nvidia

[gusty kiln]

yeah, baseline price with that tsmc allotment

[atomic hornet]

Also at this point in the race market share / getting out there is more important than making higher profit margins.

[ashen spindle]

somewhat yes

[gusty kiln]

what happened to regular qlum

did you kill him

[ashen spindle]

but having better price/performance is still possible wiht high margins

[atomic hornet]

He will be back somewhere in the next two years

[gusty kiln]

[atomic hornet]

Very much true.

[gentle osprey]

https://x.com/tansuyegen/status/1793045981954523464?s=46&t=t6RlGv-NqpnhsThSBDFrDw

Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) on X

🤖 BrainBridge, the first head transplant system, uses robotics and AI for head and face transplants, offering hope to those with severe conditions like stage-4 cancer and neurodegenerative diseases…

Twitter · May 21, 2024, 10:27 PM

[analog sinew]

INVESTOR SCAM, the first buzzword system, uses AI and other buzzwords to scam investors, offering hope to those looking to make money.

[crisp granite]

the concept of transplants like that has been touchy in the international medical space
some italian dude got his university professorship cut after announcing he was planning on conducting one
and found a new one in China

his previous donor/subject backed out after finding a wife and settling down, so I recall he's still on the hunt for a donor

the procedure is so complex
said italian dude outlined that he'd need shitloads of people because it is really two surgeries conducted at the same time, and would need to painstakingly label the various nerves, vessels, etc as the heads are being removed
and then painstakingly reattach it all bit by bit

there's a couple missing parts to the surgery as it is, such as inability to reattach the spinal cord, etc

[smoky frigate]

that italian dude also made a cameo in metal gear solid 5 as the cyprian doctor in the intro

[crisp granite]

either way
an AI system tacked onto something like the davinci operative machine could do a much better job and theoretically quicker than two massive surgical teams

but quick enough to not kill the brains even with hypothermia induced to buy time?
doubt it?

[analog sinew]

the time could maybe be bought

but how are you gonna attach a whole spinal cord and the blood vessels for the brain

that italian doctors apporach was basically to smear glue on it and hope it works

[marsh glade]

I'd wager that only in training an AI to direct a robot on millions+ of attempts at a simulation of the surgery could possibly get enough learning in to make the required precision a possibility

[analog sinew]

but most likely you'd be paralyzed with maybe some weird crosswired nerves

[fickle ore]

nanobot fluid

[analog sinew]

1 million connections on a few square cm

[marsh glade]

In related news, I read that something like 85% of the nerves detached from the NeuralLink implant

[analog sinew]

not surprising i assume with something so untested

also bodies dont really like that whole foreign body thing

I would like to live in the scifi world where this is possible but I'm not buying it

[halcyon moss]

"Rejected by the body"

[marsh glade]

Gotta start somewhere I guess? Better them than me

[final flame]

that's what immune suppressors are for

[analog sinew]

mmh

[marsh glade]

Which is a pretty brutish way to avoid a problem by causing another problem, instead of solving the problem

The immune system is kinda important

[final flame]

then solve the problem by just constantly taking antibiotics

when drugs cause issues, use more drugs

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/think-emoji-thonk-meme-gif-11987870

[marsh glade]

What could possibly go wrong

[final flame]

we also don't talk about the opioid you've been prescribed as a painkiller

[fickle ore]

wont help for cancer no? 😛

[final flame]

eh underlying issue, aint got time for that

[fickle ore]

what

[lyric hatch]

Can confirm

[marsh glade]

Fun fact, people who are on immunosuppressants can get tattoos that stay sharper and more vibrant for longer

[analog sinew]

i sense a market opportunity

[fickle ore]

and get cancer easier too :p

[lyric hatch]

Not sure if doctors are recommending tattoos to those who are on immunosupressants tho

[marsh glade]

In fact, they particularly recommend against it...

[analog sinew]

clearly a conspiracy

[lyric hatch]

Fun fact when you lose all your neutrophils you develop a condition called mucositis where all the bacteria normally in your mouth start attacking and ulcerating your digestive tract

Don't recommend

[empty wren]

||Pp falls off||

[fair gull]

got this really odd feeling my gpu is busted ever since i ran hashcat on it.... only getting this shit

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-woof-bark-ruh-roh-gif-4303248

[vivid fox]

Hi, after the firmware 2.8.0 i have a problem with my input of the w button - in games i run for a short time, then i stop, then i run again etc. i.e. the input is not pulled constantly

[ashen spindle]

#1019723042244534282

[fair gull]

ram is good... i cant see a driver directly causing it...

ugh... i dont wanna get a new gpu just before all the new stuff drops

[gusty kiln]

buy something super cheap 2nd hand?

[vivid fox]

thx

[ashen spindle]

could just try a warranty claim?

[gusty kiln]

inb4 asus gpu

[fair gull]

the warranty is out since years

pc is 5.5yrs old now

[ashen spindle]

ah lol

[gusty kiln]

oh damn then a 6500xt would be an upgrade lol

[fair gull]

i wanted to wait for the new cpus and gpus to drop and then build a new pc

[ashen spindle]

oh is it the 2080 ti?

[fair gull]

ye

[ashen spindle]

well if you want nvidia again thats gonna be likely not this year

[fair gull]

na i toyed with amd

depending on how their perf is this year ill go with them most likely

cpu will be amd as well this time

[gusty kiln]

RDNA 4 lets gooooo

[fair gull]

while i had a shit experience with bulldozer.... i had great amd experiences before and at work

athlon2 still ran the show over there on my main debug pc

[gusty kiln]

lol bulldozer is where intel is at now

[ashen spindle]

ironically the big changes in zen5 are a bulldozer repeat somewhat, just minus the bad parts

[gusty kiln]

kek

seems like you'll want at least a 4080S or 7900XTX to get 2X a 2080ti

I only upgrade if I can get about 2X for around the same money

[fair gull]

see the bad parts was that mc had microstuttering

[halcyon moss]

I upgrade when I need to..

[fair gull]

im not in for a 2x... this will be a need to at this point

[halcyon moss]

Last time was because I was just under the minimum cpu requirements for battlefield 2

[fair gull]

i aint gonna lug a 9700k into the next gpu era

[gusty kiln]

kek

9700K is basically arrowlake without the e-cores

[fair gull]

imma try DDU just to be safe but i fear the GPU is toast thanks to hashcat

[halcyon moss]

Uh.. The world war 1 battlefield

[gusty kiln]

I was able to trade in my old gpu at microcenter

that made me take the plunge

[fair gull]

im not a US burger

[gusty kiln]

rip

what is hashcat?

[fair gull]

tool for bruteforcing/cracking password hashes

[gusty kiln]

you got one of those gpu repair shops?

prob just a smd compoenet that gave out

[unkempt lake]

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/gigabyte-intel-z890-motherboard-lineup-leaks-including-ai-top-models/

AI GUYS

AI READY STICKERS

SMACK THAT SHIT EVERYWHEREEEE

LIKE VR READY STICKERS IN 2014

EVERYONE GETS A STICKER

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-winfrey-sticker-you-get-a-sticker-gif-15228957

[lyric hatch]

Mines still going strong, but yes upgrade next gen of gpu/cpu

[fair gull]

last 2 things to try rn are sfc/dism and DDU clean install

[balmy vector]

[fair gull]

on the topic of new gpu/cpu have we seen anything yet or heard anything yet

[ashen spindle]

2 weeks till computex

zen5 pretty much guaranteed to be there, rdna4 likely mentioned at least, intel confirmed arl is Q4

[fair gull]

crashes happening more often now

[gusty kiln]

oof

[ashen spindle]

could get something temporary and sell the ti on ebay then upgrade later

[fair gull]

i mean i still have an ancient amd card from my gf before i put the 2070 in her pc

[crisp granite]

it'll hold you over
assuming you don't have an iGPU, no?

[fair gull]

also good to know that crashing causes ffxiv dungeon cutscenes to skip

[fair gull]

id still like to play games at my full screen res

so igpu is a no

[crisp granite]

people not wanting to play games at 720p

smh 720p best resolution

[fair gull]

debil... i have a 32:9 monitor

[balmy vector]

720p on 32:9 is truly peak gaming

[fair gull]

ill finish the ffxiv dungeon real quick and then do DDU

the only one coming to mind is the weird 5 finger mouse

https://www.azeron.eu/

this one

[gusty kiln]

damn

[fair gull]

good? bad?

[ashen spindle]

about what the market expected

[gusty kiln]

yeah

the were down last quarter

but recover to about the quarter before that

just mean AI is not a 1 year fad

but a multi-year fad

what about this
https://amz.run/9E0s

[fair gull]

tbf thats still a razer

[gusty kiln]

an alternative to a mouse

regular mouse + that

[vagrant pagoda]

G13 is the king

Logitech dosent care about good products anymore

Just like Razer and corsiar

Their software is horrible bloat

I remember when I had a g13, g9x and g19

Well I mean I still own them all

But when I used them

[fierce terrace]

holy shit viper v3 pro absolutely nailed competition in performance

at least according to rtings tests

[empty wren]

Um this looks weird now

[reef patrol]

What does?

[sudden imp]

Discord changed the mobile UI so Dm's are back in the place it was before

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

You have an Amazon update.

[pale sigil]

I'm still rocking an ancient version of discord because I refuse change.

[empty wren]

Fair enough muscle memory gonna be wrecked now for me

[pale sigil]

Downgrade

[empty wren]

Maybe later when I unlock the bootloader

[pale sigil]

You don't need to unlock the bootloader

If we are on about discord

[empty wren]

I get that part but if I did downgrade then after I unlock the bootloader, basically a waste of time as it wipes all data

[pale sigil]

Eh I'm on about the app

[empty wren]

Alright generally sure I agree

[zenith silo]

This has happened like 5 times in the last 2 months

Why can't they just make up their mind

[empty wren]

Maybe cuz they are hot when they are cold, yes when they are no, in when they are out

[unkempt lake]

@pale sigil

THIS LOOKS STRANGELY LIKE A PAW

WHAT ARE YOU SOME FUCKING FURRY 😡😡😡😡

e x p o s e d

[gusty kiln]

wait how do you put servers in folders

[unkempt lake]

Even more exposed

2 ANIMALS

COINCIDENCE

I THINK NOT

[unkempt lake]

just drag em on top of each other

?

[gusty kiln]

oh lol, just never tried

[unkempt lake]

Lmao

Funny

[rough osprey]

why is the message tab gone 😭

[empty wren]

That wolf is a destiny 2 server/group chat from what I remember

[unkempt lake]

lies! Cover up!

[median pawn]

Wooting 60he+ on the way, looking at mice to go with it. Sora v2 or op1 8k, some advice would be appreciated!

[reef patrol]

Is Bugcat!

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[old marlin]

https://mstdn.social/@Kurt/112488468889090491

[reef patrol]

Imagine using a single source as your truth about something on the internet.

[old marlin]

and that source is reddit

[fair gull]

looked up second hand prices for my GPU just in case its actually dead and the DDU clean driver install doesnt fix it....

400eur

for roughly 2x i could get a 7900xtx

[reef patrol]

I am praying 5000 series won't be crazy, and that plenty of waterblocks are made for it. So tired of being "stuck" with a 3080 😄

[old marlin]

what GPU do you have

ik a german guy that fixes Nvidia ones

[fair gull]

zotac 2080ti amp

idk if its actually broke yet though

the BSOD while pointing to the nvidia driver could be driver or hardware at this point

[old marlin]

mmh

brother also had his system break yesterday

I think his mobo is ded

[fair gull]

yeah i mean it could be that hashcat is a coincidence and i somehow had a (to me unknown) OC on my CPU and this is causing it

just odd that it was rock solid and never had a bsod (except some i cause myself with homemade drivers) besides this one that happened when i loaded the GPU with hashcat

[umbral heron]

[reef patrol]

I just remembered that I no longer remember the XP key Is used back in the day.

Used it so often to install Pro on school machines, that I could recite the whole thing by heart

[fair gull]

so you all have fun with this here https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/thermal-paste/cooler-master-introduces-color[…]hermal-paste-cryofuze-5-comes-with-nano-diamond-technology

[severe phoenix]

https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1793428629378208057 Fucking Linus is a scumbagf

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech) on X

There were a series of accusations about our company last August from a former employee. Immediately following these accusations, LMG hired Roper Greyell - a large Vancouver-based law firm specializing in labor and employment law, to conduct a third-party investigation. Their

Twitter · May 22, 2024, 11:48 PM

All boils down to "The investigator said we did everything right on our end"

[umbral heron]

At this time, we feel our case for a defamation suit would be very strong

[severe phoenix]

They threaten it at the end

Yeah

[sudden imp]

Does this address any of the concerns GN raised or only the ones the former employee had brought up.

[rough patrol]

the concerns gn raised were addressed last year and have not come up since

[sudden imp]

Ah okay 👍

[old marlin]

at least not in bigger media

[rough patrol]

this is about the stuff that madison brought up, which may or may not be true, who knows really

i dont think it was the right play to address it publicly like this, since it gives them a bad look regardless imo

[old marlin]

https://www.lttlabs.com/categories/keyboards

their keyboard test suck absolute ass for example

those are all quite recent

[rough patrol]

i havent seen those

[old marlin]

the chassis material is the same as on most keyboards (it is ABS)

and they same it is good price to performance for a 50 dollar membrane

[rough patrol]

but yeah, publicly posting about these allegations on twitter just seems petty for me

[old marlin]

eh that is fine

should have posted the actual report but

[rough patrol]

that and not in a big ass tweet but instead just have a link and say "here's what was found" and leave it there

[sudden imp]

^^^ maybe just of posted the actual report and left it at that. If LMG wanted to take litigious action then they shouldn’t explicitly vocalize it.

[rough patrol]

that part is especially weird to me

could have just left it at "there was an investigation that found no issue"

and not say anything about a lawsuit cause that just looks really bad

[old marlin]

I mean they did find an issue

just one that already was resolved back then

also was a minor one

it should be an expected one

defamation is illegal

[rough patrol]

i hope that the employee doesnt get any harrassment from this, since i remember they already had to deal with when the allegations came out, and they might have been legitimate concerns that they felt were correct

[lyric hatch]

I've seen enough vindictive people in my time to know sometimes the person is just a real piece of work

[rough patrol]

yeah but that doesnt mean they should be harrassed and all that

[lyric hatch]

do we even know who the employee is? I've never seen them named not like I would bother looking it up

[rough patrol]

ye it is known

obviously they dont name them in their statements as to not bring people to them or cause any harrassment

but yes if you want to know who it is i can just tell you

[lyric hatch]

na, i just wanted to know if it was known

[rough patrol]

it is public information, just that they will not name the person

[reef patrol]

Facebook's pushing AI, so they sent a "do you object to us using your stuff for ai learning" and you had to give a reason.

Oddly enough no one at Meta thought that "fuck you" would be something people would say and to filter that...so

[lime agate]

Can we use AI to cancel AI?

🫣😂

[frozen ingot]

lets take everything AI says and put back into it again

[umbral heron]

Habsburg AI theory?

[pale sigil]

Doesn't address the leaked audio of a meeting of people making literal crude sexual jokes

While dealing with this situation

[severe phoenix]

Yes

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-x-specs-leaked-24gb-lpddr5x-7500-memory-and-massive-80-wh-battery

literally doubled the battery lol

[umbral heron]

678g is not that bad honestly, still not in "break nose when dropped on face in bed" territory

Oh, and 2280 SSD

[ashen spindle]

second usbc port added too

[umbral heron]

Imagine how many hours of Balatro you can squeeze out of this guy on 1W with 80Wh battery

[halcyon moss]

24gb is nice, more space for igpu memory

ohuh.. duckduck go is down

[umbral heron]

duckduckstop

I wonder how much will it cost for €799+

I could definitely see it for 3899zł around here

[frozen ingot]

thought it was just me

[halcyon moss]

i like that they added links to the !bang commands 😄

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/msigaming/status/1793628162334621754

MSI Gaming (@msigaming) on X

MSI and @kingstontech are previewing the next revolution in memory design, the DDR5 CAMM2. Featured on a Z790 PROJECT ZERO PLUS, the Kingston FURY Impact DDR5 CAMM2 prototype module demonstrates the compact size, thin profile, and potential OC performance.
#MSIxComputex2024

Twitter · May 23, 2024, 1:00 PM

[reef patrol]

Seems weird to need to screw it in on so many points.

It needs a clip system ala CPUs

[ashen spindle]

you need contact pressure for now

screw less design is for the future revisions

[frozen ingot]

how is that more space efficient than current dimms

[reef patrol]

Mmm... I spose one doesn't exclude the other. Can use pressure widgets like on CPU, even if the RAM comes with screw ones.

[reef patrol]

Heightwise I guess? Makes some coolers a lot easier to install.

[ashen spindle]

the jedec pdf I linked yesterday talked about it how they havent solved the no screw issues yet

[frozen ingot]

true, but also looks worse for heat dissipation of the ram chips

[gusty kiln]

https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1793428629378208057

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech) on X

There were a series of accusations about our company last August from a former employee. Immediately following these accusations, LMG hired Roper Greyell - a large Vancouver-based law firm specializing in labor and employment law, to conduct a third-party investigation. Their

Twitter · May 22, 2024, 11:48 PM

[ashen spindle]

https://www.jedec.org/sites/default/files/Tom_Schnell_FINAL_ 2024-05-03.pdf here

[ashen spindle]

yeah was posted further up already

also this in regards to screws

[reef patrol]

I missed it 😄

[reef patrol]

Kind of makes me want to see LPDDR5 CAMM2 be what's used for both. Let the controller stick out a bit and just use those instead as two stacks on Desktop 😄

Mirrored away from each other like a diamond shape.

[ashen spindle]

yes lpddr is what we get in the future

this is just because ddr5 is currently used anyway so they dont need to change traces or anything and can use OEM designs

but the future will be LPDDR6 CAMM2 for desktops

idk if we get lpddr5, probably not

[reef patrol]

Neat.

[ashen spindle]

assuming zen6 comes to AM5 we should see the lpddr6 version of this starting with zen7 then

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah most motherboards are vertical meaning this would put ram flat with out good convection

Current dimms are excellent for convection

[frozen ingot]

yeah figured there'd be a pretty good reason for them to be mounted like that, especially these days where everything runs hotter than ever

[ashen spindle]

hot ram is fine and if you dont have module one blocking module 2 you now get airflow over the entire thing so thats not an issue

after all this comes from laptops where you have even less airflow

[vagrant pagoda]

Laptops that already used flat mounted sodimms

[ashen spindle]

yes?

[vagrant pagoda]

So they are no different for cooling in laptops

These are double sided just like a sodimm

[ashen spindle]

yeah im saying it already works there so on desktop it also wont make any changes

[vagrant pagoda]

On desktop sff stuff that uses sodimms for space, they can be mounted vertical

Camm cannot be mounted vertical

Also it's not feasible to mount 2 camm for the equivalent of 4 dimms

Seems like it's a complete downgrade for desktops

[ashen spindle]

ddr5 camm is not double sided btw just lpddr camm

you have dual channel in one module and you can have better signal integrity thus higher density in the end

there is like no downside for desktops

some more area used maybe but that's negligible

[vagrant pagoda]

Cammv2 has spec for both

It's not higher density as it uses the exact same chips

The only higher density is for lpddr5 single sided

Which is only marginally smaller than lpddr5 sodimms

[ashen spindle]

you will get higher density on future modules because of better signal integrity, what you get on a ddr5 camm right now doesnt matter really thats just a transitonary thing

[vagrant pagoda]

You think they will make special chips for just these modules vs the standard ones every other dimm uses?

[ashen spindle]

what do you mean every other dimm

ddr6 in dimms like we have them now is not coming to desktop/laptop

its all going to be lpddr6 camm2

[vagrant pagoda]

Lol

[ashen spindle]

and servers want more and more mcr dimms for much much more ram so it's going to be different there too

[vagrant pagoda]

So ddr6 going to skip servers?

[ashen spindle]

no?

but you will likely only see it it in servers

[vagrant pagoda]

You're crazy if you think desktop will not get ddr6 dimm

[ashen spindle]

whats the benefit desktop would have using ddr6 over lp6

[vagrant pagoda]

Speed?

Ddr6 lower width will need speed to makeup

[ashen spindle]

you get higher speeds with better signal integrity and camm modules have the advantage there

[vagrant pagoda]

Lpddr6 isn't going to much faster than high end ddr5

Lpddr6 is only targeting 14000 mt

[ashen spindle]

the slides in the pdf here are pretty self explanatory of why lpcamm on desktop would be the prefered solution

[vagrant pagoda]

That's only like 38GB/s

That entire thing is for sff and laptops not desktops

[ashen spindle]

it explicity shows the 2DPC issues it solves for desktops

[vagrant pagoda]

That's all vs sodimms not dimms

[ashen spindle]

?

[unkempt lake]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-anti-lag-2-game-integrated-tech-counter-strike-2-preview-available/

[fair gull]

wait but isnt that the same as just having 2 dimm slots? or is the cam module extendible

im really confused as to what problem it solves

[ashen spindle]

could be extended or could be a second slot and since its seperate lines it doesnt creat stubs on active connections if only one is used

what it mostly solves is issues with signal stability

[gusty kiln]

I can see evga use this on their next high end board

Shame they haven't done any am5 yet

Honestly don't know what evga is doing any more

Seems to just be coasting on PSU

[sudden imp]

I hope they aren’t going under

Wish they would do AMD stuff but they seem to really like intel

[astral haven]

its almost like intel provided support, and noone bought their amd boards

[ashen spindle]

its an insanely low margin market and till recently there was no amd high end so hard for them to enter there now with limited resources

[gusty kiln]

They should re-enter the case market. Their design language is pretty unique.

Maybe something in the $100 range

Instead of the expensive concept case kits they were selling

[fair gull]

i love all the typos

also #🐸│memes

and it still crashes

gpu most likely rekt

so to order a second hand gpu and hope to get rid of it for the same amount OR to order a new top of the line gpu from amd/nvidia

although i might first try with my GFs old gpu

rx 570 8gb version....

thatll be a downgrade in performance

[astral haven]

are you getting errors in a gpu testing program?

if you have nvidia, you can run nvidia smi to see if nvidia is correcting a bunch of errors already

also hashcat probably fried the memory, but the error correction is pretty strong, even if it cant maintain stock clocks, droppiing 200 or 500 mhz on the memory might keep the gpu working

[fair gull]

no clue where nvidia smi is on windows

welp looks ok

also would be odd if mem causes a video TDR issue

the bsod is specifically VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE

tried inspecting the dumps yesterday going through the stack available but nothing out of the ordinary

oh no... new bsod now... same symptoms. now its thread exceptions inside nvlddmkm

might run furmark tomorrow while at work

see if i can provoke the crash and the swap GPUs and see if its gone

[astral haven]

try occt with error checking

occt gpu memory and if that doesnt show errors directly, do occt memory (non gpu)

[fair gull]

first i hope the trial goes fine in ffxiv

i wanna finish this damn shit

[unkempt lake]

It's all related

Adjust your TDR delay

https://docs.nvidia.com/gameworks/content/developertools/desktop/timeout_detection_recovery.htm

Hopefully it helps make the card usable again

Enough at least

[fair gull]

i dont see why all of the sudden the delay of 10 seconds isnt enough

pc has also been stable since that crash

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume I've become like you

[thick elk]

I'm alive

Discord support, useless, but I got a random message that they detected suspicious activity.

[woven laurel]

do u want

[thick elk]

I guess moving back to my main now, neoqlum can rest in peace.

[steep creek]

oh sweet you got your account back

[gusty kiln]

Manifest V3 starts next month, what browsers are you guys on/migrating to?

[thick elk]

Firefox, always has been.

[steep creek]

arc / brave for chromium

[marsh glade]

Currently Brave, in a few months maybe Arc

[gusty kiln]

Arc looks nice

[pale sigil]

Brave baby

But arc needs a lot of work before I switch

[gusty kiln]

floorp seems decent

[steep creek]

arc on macos is prime, on windows its not yet ready in my opinion

[ashen spindle]

iirc ublock continues to work on v3? I'll see what happens

[gusty kiln]

how do you set up profiles for firefox?

cuz I got a work profile on chrome

[thick elk]

They will add it in the future, but there is a about: page for it and you can just launch firefox with -p

for the profile manager

[gusty kiln]

mullvad browser seems good if you're super paranoid

[wheat plume]

Ooff
Rookie numbers

[visual swift]

old message but you ever check cex?

[wheat plume]

Yes
They are overpriced as hell and barely give you anything for selling to them

[lyric hatch]

Be like that, the resale value of apple stuff is always high

[trim crane]

i have a question

polling, scanning and response times are all different I suppose

how is the response time on the 80HE, it's not 0.125ms that can't be right? I know that True 8k means that polling = scanning = 8k

[ashen spindle]

Response time usually means until it’s registered so depends on what the pc/game does

So it could be 0.125ms on average

[unkempt lake]

https://www.404media.co/samsung-requires-independent-repair-shops-to-share-customer-data-snitch-on-people-who-use-aftermarket-parts-leaked-contract-shows/

[astral haven]

this likely isnt an independent repair shop

[mild dome]

Independent as in they do not operate under Samsung, but in order to get parts they need to sign this unfair contract

[lime agate]

I once went to an official Samsung repair store back in 2018 or something, for my Note8, it had some liquid inside my camera lens and it annoyed me so i got repaired free of charge cause i never opened it, so after the repair was done it was just like opening it up and cleaning the lens and re applying adhesive and putting the backplate on and boom ez pz but noo Samsung forced me to completely reset my phone and I’m like why? It doesn’t make any sense to reset my phone since nothing is changed with my hardware or software…. And I soft modded my note8 with soft root mods and nova launcher and I didn’t wanna re do them all ugh and all my pictures and data, i was so mad

[umbral heron]

I don't like where PC industry is going
Why RAM with RGB is cheaper than one without?

[halcyon moss]

volume

[umbral heron]

Makes sense

[halcyon moss]

i miss the plain green sticks

[umbral heron]

Shuck them out

[unkempt lake]

set brightness to 0

Call it a day

[umbral heron]

Additional software... for RAM sticks...
Hell naw

[reef patrol]

Just need to do it once typically.

[fair gull]

just desolder the leds

easy

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/good-to-hear-thats-what-i-want-to-hear-want-to-hear-good-good-news-gif-13143914

[lyric hatch]

it's like they made these sticks just for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOaYzuArpgk

[reef patrol]

[umbral heron]

Yes! This! But exact opposite of this

[reef patrol]

Indeed. Or just make software that actually does the control you expect.

My XPG ram's app won't let me change individual LEDs. But if I use G.Skill's app to control them, I can do it just fine

[umbral heron]

Oh, Artemis seems to support iCue

[fair gull]

ofc they do

i would expect a non rgb option

[umbral heron]

Nevermind

[lyric hatch]

idk if i've ever seen a teaser trailer for ram sticks before

[umbral heron]

Yeah, imma just pay €10 more for non-RGB version, seems like an easier solution

I wanna reuse my current case

And get some small ITX one for the parts I replace

1000zł
Yeah, I'll stay by my old one...

[visual swift]

selling ye

i did get a deal on a xbox controller though

[pale sigil]

I just store none RGB on the on board memory then uninstall icue xd

[pale sigil]

iPads are pretty good to buy from cex tbh

[umbral heron]

Yeah, I'll have an issue even with installing iCue

[old marlin]

Synapse is fine if you just need to change settings and then never open it again

G hub is a buggy mess

[reef patrol]

I'd uninstall iCue in an instant, if it wasn't the central core of keeping my PC cooled 😄

I rely on it for temp sensors and pump control - as well as fans of course.

Downsides of custom watercooling. 😄

[old marlin]

also I cannot find out how to turn off rgb on the one logitech mouse I own

which is a shitty g705

[reef patrol]

There's no direct CPU cooler. It's all based off of component and liquid temps.

[old marlin]

[old marlin]

like I tried both ghub and omm

and it used to work

but now it just turns blue/pink after a random time

[pale sigil]

IDK why people say this

Personally never had a problem

[old marlin]

then I can press the dpi/profile button (even though I only have one setting) and then it turns white and then off again

[old marlin]

it LOVES to break

which can brick your stuff

you can't cleanly uninstall it

[umbral heron]

I have a big block which barely fits in the case

[old marlin]

doing basic things like removing a dpi step is a puzzle in it's own

[reef patrol]

iCue also isn't super stable. I have to manually hard crash it in task manager once a month or so, where it just doesn't do shit all until fully restarted.

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it's shit just save config to hardware then nuke ghub

[pale sigil]

I just wish it had a more easier way to backup profiles

[old marlin]

just use omm if you have the option

(and then hope it actually works)

oh also saving on a device with ghub is a mystery to me

last time I tried doing that I just gave up

[pale sigil]

I use program detection too much but I did export to on board in case

[old marlin]

like you "just" toggle a setting to do that

[pale sigil]

But it's so easy lol

[old marlin]

but it never actually applied for me

[crimson wigeon]

Oh yeah no idea how it is now I've been rocking the same config for yonks and if I do need to change I do it on the Linux side where I get to use piper

[pale sigil]

Sounds like a you problem..

Piper is great.

[old marlin]

yea ghub is so popular that people say to just use omm if oyu have the chance

simple trick, don't buy anything else from logitech

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it's easy

[old marlin]

do they have any worthwhile products anyways

outside maybe cheap wheels

[pale sigil]

I prefer it over a lot of software

It ain't perfect though

[old marlin]

like with synapse stuff at least works as expected

(I also unironically like roccat swarm )

even though it clearly has a lot of afterthought features

too bad there is like 2 worthwhile modern mice that use it

neither of which is sold as roccat in the west

[crimson wigeon]

Nah we gotta have bloated softwares always running in the background it's what the people want

[old marlin]

true

I mean I would be fine with a CLI tool

plenty of mouse options?

the ULX and uhh, the ploopy mouse?

wait no don't think the ploopy mouse actually does web stuff

[umbral heron]

Razer's peripherals are suprisingly well supported on Linux through OpenRazer+RazerGenie

[lyric hatch]

G wolves, Ninjutso, Sprime and VGN have web based software also with Pulsar and Lamzu working on it

Also Vaxee, Zowie and Xtrfy have no software at all being all built into the mouse

[rough patrol]

You listed 7 brands and ive only heard of 2 of those

[umbral heron]

Aite, that's sounds okayish as for today https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Calslock/saved/JJMdFT
I wonder how much Ryzens 9xxx will cost right after release though, and Computex' soon

[tawdry carbon]

Hello I don't know what the best place is to talk about that problem

Since the last update my wooting 60HE got some massiv problems with reaction delay and RGB

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[tawdry carbon]

thx

[ashen spindle]

ram you can go quite a bit cheaper and psu a cheaper one with platinum rating but as a rough start that first

prices... well lets hope for the best

[umbral heron]

I guess I'll pick them last minute anyway, something that will match best and won't be too expensive
Pretty sure about GPU and mobo though

[lyric hatch]

what are you running you need a 10gb lan card for

[umbral heron]

Slowly but surely upgrading home network to 10Gbit one

[ashen spindle]

Oh yeah I guess there is a low chance we get more boards and maybe 10gig on board that doesn’t start at 400 but wouldn’t bet on that

[ashen spindle]

It’s not for isp connections it’s for home network in cals case

[fierce cobalt]

Hey I have question about https://wootility.io/ and connectic with keyboards ? I dont see how can be connected

I can post this question here ?

[umbral heron]

Sure, it uses WebUSB API to connect to keyboard, so you need a Chromium-based browser in this case

[fierce cobalt]

So with Safari for exemple its didnt work or just Fox ?

[reef patrol]

Needs to be Chromium based.

So Chrome, Edge, Brave and such.

[umbral heron]

It won't work with Safari because... Apple, and it won't with Firefox because Mozilla doesn't want to add WebUSB support

[fierce cobalt]

Yep and do u expend that to other ? based ?

[reef patrol]

We do explain it on the website.

[fierce cobalt]

Oh sorry I didnt see it

[reef patrol]

https://wooting.io/wootility
There's also an app you can use if you don't have a compatible browser.

[fierce cobalt]

And on ur website I didnt see, have u some datasheet or what ever like that ? I see u have some git for opensource

[reef patrol]

Not sure what you're asking exactly - The browsers supported will not change. We rely on WebUSB which not all browsers want to suppoirt.

[fierce cobalt]

Okay thank !
Sorry my eng is not really good
My question is about ur keyboard. I didnt see datasheet about what component u use ?

[digital cliff]

what information you need

[fierce cobalt]

The processor what used in ?

[digital cliff]

gd32f303

for the 80HE it's something F4xx

[umbral heron]

F425

[digital cliff]

there we go

[fierce cobalt]

So actually they used gd32f303, is it right ? So what is F425 ?

[digital cliff]

bro

[fierce cobalt]

yep ?

[digital cliff]

GD32F303 for everything else but the 80HE, it has GD32F425

[fierce cobalt]

Oh right x) I dont understand sorry

[sharp badger]

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/handheld-gaming/msi-issues-new-claw-bios-update-claims-to-outperform-rog-ally-in-top-100-most-popular-steam-games Wonder if the lows got better too