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wheat plume
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Actually
That's a lie....Microsoft OneNote didn't like the pen at all, couldn't write or draw , it just registered taps on the screen using the pen

steep creek
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i see

wheat plume
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I could draw with my finger though .-. so idk wtf happened

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Idk any better drawing apps
Must look into it

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Don't ask me the one he's using in the screenshot I sent cause I haven't a clue

astral haven
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i use adobe sketchbook

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not adobe

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solidworks?

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on samsung with a built in pen, you just take out the pen and start writing on the screen

wheat plume
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I found an app called Bamboo from Wacom, the only one I trusted on the Play Store cause I didnt recognise the other brands other than Microsoft, but Microsofts one didnt work

wheat plume
astral haven
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if its not got a built in pen, you hold the button down then tap the screen

wheat plume
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Yeah

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You know how Apple is all about "seamless interconnectivity"?

To pair the Apple Pencil 1 to the iPad, you NEED TO PLUG IT IN WITH A CABLE

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oh yeah, sooooo seamless

cursive summit
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You pair it once and never again?

wheat plume
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but you also need to plug it in to charge it! hence the iPad on a Stick as I call it

cursive summit
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Don't they charge it wirelessly

wheat plume
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the Pen 2 does

astral haven
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yea dont you pair it by sticking it in?
do you need a cable?

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i do know apple makes their charging intentionally awful on their accessories ofc

wheat plume
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to pair you need cable, but for charge you just directly plug it in

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idk why or how it requires that difference

astral haven
steep creek
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yes for the gen 1 nonsense pen you need to either stick it in or charge via cable

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gen 2 is all wireless

wheat plume
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yep xd

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the Magic Mouse still sucks regardless cause its way too fucking flat, cant grip it while using the scroll gesture

steep creek
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it was nice when i first got it but man it became tiresome quick, i wanted the gen 2 a lot

wheat plume
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Ive launched it backwards off the desk a few times while trying it at the store

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.-. as soon as i tried to use the 2 finger scroll on it

steep creek
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lol only thing i like about that mouse is the smooth scrolling, because non apple mice on macs kinda 'pixel skip' idk how to describe it well

cursive summit
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Interesting

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RDNA4 Navi41 cancelled

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Idk exactly wtf RDNA3.5 is if not an iGPU

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RDNA4 "looking good" reminds me on how RX 7000 was going to be insane yet wasn't havo

ashen spindle
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everything currently is as it was said weeks/months ago
did you start working for wccftech or what

cursive summit
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No I just started working for your mom

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Don't get Radeon cancelling 2nd high end die in a row

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Navi31XL I think it was called, and now Navi41

ashen spindle
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no it was N36

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and N4C for rdna4

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and it should be obvious why N36 didnt get to see light of day

cursive summit
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Wasn't thinking RDNA4 was going to be good though

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If RDNA4 can achieve performance of an XTX for half the price, that'd be nice

ashen spindle
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wtf are these numbers

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is that from chatgpt

cursive summit
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TPU

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Navi 31 XTX+ is the die

ashen spindle
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is that some april fools leftover

cursive summit
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Navi 31 XTX being the 7900XTX die

cursive summit
ashen spindle
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yeah no those things were never a thing

cursive summit
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One of those was 100% a thing

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AMD was thinking of releasing a turbocharged XTX on par with 4090 back in the day

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Prolly the 7990XTX

ashen spindle
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N36 was much bigger and had 120CU

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whatever tpu has there are some hallucinations

cursive summit
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120CUs would wreck 4090 though in gaming

smoky frigate
cursive summit
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I don't get why AMD just doesn't want to compete in high end

wheat plume
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I love how weeb Moondrop are

ashen spindle
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for rdna3, because the the taped out silicon went kaboom

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no point in making a massive die that cant reach clocks it needs and would end up performing worse

cursive summit
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What's Kepler saying with RDNA3 having a major architectural defect?

ashen spindle
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and the rdna3.5 we will get in the upcoming apus should show that was the case

cursive summit
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RDNA2 was so damn good

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RDNA3 felt like a sidegrade

ashen spindle
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the same thing everyone has been saying since the release

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man did you have amnesia or something, this is far from the first time this was discussed

wheat plume
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These support LDAC, i thought that was Sony exclusive??

smoky frigate
cursive summit
ashen spindle
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since like the first week after launch when everyone was confused

cursive summit
wheat plume
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Ones made by Sony, yeah

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this is the first ive seen not Sony

cursive summit
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What

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Here are Maxwells

lyric hatch
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Rdna3 was first attempt at chiplet design on a gpu, think they ran into some early hiccups

ashen spindle
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nope

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the chiplets are not the cause

cursive summit
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RDNA3 issues are not chiplet related afaik

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Prolly just bad gains from power?

ashen spindle
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you can see that when looking at clocks in compute workloads and powerdraw as well as v/f curve, that isnt memory related

cursive summit
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Feed it power and you don't get the expected results

ashen spindle
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if it was chiplet that caused the issue, N33 being monolithic would have been killing everything around it lol

cursive summit
wheat plume
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yeah for sure

cursive summit
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Fuck AAC though

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The thing is shit

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Of course the standard Apple codec would be shit

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Miles inferior to aptX

wheat plume
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AAC is what my earbuds use, I think

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default was SBC

astral haven
wheat plume
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oohh

cursive summit
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Praige to aptX feelsgood

astral haven
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ldac is very nice but its very high bandwidth for the sound quality
def better than basic aptx but there are tiers of ldac, 330 really isnt that much better, where 990 is incredible

lyric hatch
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Pretty sure the high idle power draw with multi monitor and video playback on rdna 3 is a result of the new chiplet design or at least amds current design for it

ashen spindle
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nope that was mostly fixed driver issues

lyric hatch
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Because the lower tier cards that don't use chiplets don't have the issue

ashen spindle
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if you look at nvidia the higher tier cards also have proportionally higher idle power

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for example one of the first fixed issues was the memory not clocking to idle clocks when having multi monitor setups

astral haven
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for both nvidia and amd

lyric hatch
ashen spindle
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yeah I know the numbers that doesnt change it's just not chiplet related

astral haven
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look at the 5700xt lel

lyric hatch
astral haven
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yes?

lyric hatch
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Just a salty early 5700 xt buyer

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Put me off AMD

cursive summit
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RDNA1 was performance wise, really damn good

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RDNA2 was pretty incredible

astral haven
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🤷 point is its beeeeg chip on the 7000 series

cursive summit
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Idk what went wrong with RDNA3

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They should fix that shit up and improve on it

lyric hatch
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Rdna1 was good when the drivers weren't crashing PepEsAd

cursive summit
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Sad that 3nm or 2nm process isn't available yet I don't think

cursive summit
lyric hatch
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Pretty sure next gen apple products have first dibs on those nodes from TSMC

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(Like always)

astral haven
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and after next gen the amnesia about the real prices will come back and vex will be saying rdna3 and 2 were incredible that rdna4 sucks

lyric hatch
cursive summit
cursive summit
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It's a good stable arch that had a horrid launch

lyric hatch
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No product should launch in the state Rdna1 launched in

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Nothing more frustrating than constant crashes

astral haven
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intel has an excuse at least lol

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and they already caught up to amd at least crash wise, performance still isnt there for the same amount of gpu horsepower tho

wheat plume
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dafuq

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paypal seems really unreliable lately

cursive summit
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Just pay with revolut

wheat plume
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I wonder do they accept the one time use cards from Revolut

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a lot of sites dont 😢

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I forgot Beauty Of Annihilation has a section that only plays in the right channel and I thought my headphones had fucked up suddenly .-.

lyric hatch
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Didn't he just say he wanted to get better playing offline before he went online 🤔

old marlin
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(and not going vr to begin with)

lyric hatch
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He got it like that?

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Seems weird to judge someone for buying something they enjoy 🤷‍♂️

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He clearly ain't strapped for cash

old marlin
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giggle then he should stop making videos about flexing his newbie simrig setup

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does not make it less funny

lyric hatch
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Gatekeeping a hobby nice

old marlin
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he unnecessarily raises the bar for some people

rancid burrow
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guys is there any chance to use f keys on wooting 60he

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like F3

umbral heron
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Fn+3 duck_bopping

rancid burrow
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its not working

umbral heron
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Hmm... Could you please send a screenshot of Fn Layer 1 from Wootility?

frozen vale
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Probably doesn't exist, but does anyone know of a mouse that has a middle button separate from the wheel

astral haven
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old logitechs with the mechanical clicking mechanism for the scroll wheel

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or any gaming mouse with the ability to rebind the scroll wheel

frozen vale
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Damn, starting to realize after many years that my g903 just doesn't quite work and part I think is the position of the scroll / the amount of pressure it takes to click
Was thinking if you slip the scroll backwards a little you could put a stand alone middle mouse button in front and could make mid click lightweight like the other buttons...

astral haven
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logitech g600

fair gull
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my provider netcup started offering ARM64 vservers... hope they soon offer arm64 roots as well

frozen vale
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Thinking I need to develop my own mouse lol

ashen spindle
fair gull
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im mostly curious about pricing differences due to less powerconsumption and package compatibility

ashen spindle
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I doubt it uses less power

astral haven
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i mean if its drastically slower, itll probably use less power

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and for apps where you need privacy but not speed, thats a fine tradeoff

ashen spindle
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lmfao sure but in that case you just dont take the latest gen

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or a config thats lower clocked and thus achieves the same

astral haven
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older stuff could be expensive since they want to replace it and it uses alot of power

ashen spindle
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get a config that uses less cores or a sku with lower tdp and lower clocks

astral haven
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sure but often the providers dont install that, they just install a bunch of the same standardized stuff in a few brackets

vagrant pagoda
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Is there even arm with out of band?

fair gull
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good question

ashen spindle
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why would it not

fair gull
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i mean i assumed it was more a is it commercially available

astral haven
ashen spindle
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windows on arm even has it so I doubt it's a thing for just expensive enterprise

astral haven
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what

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software cant have a hardware feature

ashen spindle
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wait nvm this articles uses out of band for out of lifecycle lmao

fair gull
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gg in my infinite wisdom i ran apt purge docker.io to remove the GUI stuff of docker... and purged my volumes into the netherrealm

ashen spindle
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rip

fair gull
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time to download the backup and manually pick out the files

fair gull
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and we are back in business

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time to go to bed

marsh pewter
cold folio
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Hey everyone, I just bought a H60+. How risky is opening up the keyboard to lube it for someone who has never done this type of stuff before? I'll watch some videos about it but is there something that I can do very wrong that would break the keyboard?

sweet cairn
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Pretty hard to fuck up

cold folio
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So there is nothing I should be careful of when opening the case?

crisp granite
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sometimes they put a spring loaded fake snake in there to spook people

mild dome
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Last April fools they had real snakes, didn't turn out well...

crisp granite
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lmao that kid got pranked hard though

strong sundial
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wait isn't that just the cable

zinc meteor
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hey guys, is it possible to set a key to a side mouse button when remapping

analog sinew
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on the wooting? it cant do mouse inputs

sweet cairn
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On my razer I set one of my keys to be numpad 1,then in wootility I set a key of my choice to numpad 1 . Boom Done. Just a random example, I don't actually do this.

old marlin
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what

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that just means you set both your mouse and keyboard to do the same input

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not that you set your keyboard to actually input a keycode for a sidebutton

sweet cairn
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Like I said, I don't do this. If anything, I want more keys on my mouse.

cursive summit
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Mlid 🤢

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So it's a fake slide but mlid swears by the information being correct

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They never change

reef patrol
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Oh joy. Youtube shorts are finally unusable.

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They've started injecting ads into the scrolling, but adblockers know this.
So every fifth or so time I go to a new short, it'll be like a 5 frame flashbang of noise and light before the adblocker kills it and scrolls to the next one.

old marlin
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Wait you didn't consider them unusable before?

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With no audio or playback controls outside double speed

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Oh and fully muting + pausing obv

reef patrol
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Simple addons fix that

old marlin
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Ah didn't look for any

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One of my odder addons for youtube already doesn't function properly

umbral heron
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Very simple filter which replaces /shorts/ to /watch/ in URL is enough

old marlin
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For windowed fullscreen

cursive summit
old marlin
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Lol

cursive summit
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It defaults to last short you didn't say no to, and if you scroll down it just serves you an ad, glitches out and brings you back to the previous short

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Constantly

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Basically just unusable

old marlin
cursive summit
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And yes I've at this point clicked "Don't recommend channel" like thousands of times now just cause shorts have virtually zero personalization

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It's just generic mind numbing trash

old marlin
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List for that is short for me

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If you just scroll past it knows what you don't like

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Much more effective than filtering channels

ashen spindle
cursive summit
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It's come to my attention that a picture in my recent video is fake. However, every quote in said video took input from long-term sources that insist it's correct. Thus, I've decided to pull the pic, but leave the video up. I apologize for my mistake, but stand by what remains.

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MLiD, how can a fake made up image have information that's correct

ashen spindle
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It gets even better, he put stuff from that same single email source as multiple sources on his video and it’s contradictory lmao

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God computex will be so funny

cursive summit
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Realistically what's the point of PCIe nowadays if not for basically just SSDs

lyric hatch
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Bros been at it a while suprised there's enough people out there that still take him seriously

cursive summit
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GPUs don't make use of that PCIe bandwidth

ashen spindle
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They do

cursive summit
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Barely judging from performance gains

ashen spindle
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Gaming isn’t everything for gpu use

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HPC loves it

cursive summit
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SSDs do but consumers don't need those speed increases

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PCIe nowadays seems just primarily enterprise benefiting from new revisions

old marlin
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would be somewhat useless without a bigger interface on both ends

ashen spindle
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Well yeah nothing in there says consumer and it’s not consumer focused

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Yeah

old marlin
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I would be surprised if we got tasks in 5-10 years for normal consumers where pcie gen 4 vs 5 matters

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outside of like TB stuff

cursive summit
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Is it logical to say that the fact that since PCIe is used by consumers as well, but the newest versions of it bring virtually no improvements to anything a typical PC user would do, it's a hardware design defect?

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The hardware isn't designed the right way to make full use of the extra bandwidth

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Or is it just completely normal

rough patrol
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Games just dont keep up file size wise and honestly it‘s probably a good thing

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Game sizes are already inflated af

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And caching stuff on the video card is faster and less prone to other bottlenecks like slow disk etc

reef patrol
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Surely pushing for faster standards, means more lanes for consumers on existing products? Meaning less need to split lanes for additional nvme and such?

ashen spindle
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Maybe but that also costs more

cursive summit
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Most peeps just need like PCIe 3.0 1-2 SSDs

ashen spindle
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And saying it’s a design defect is like saying 800GB/s Ethernet is a defect because your consumer cpu couldn’t write it that fast on a normal ssd

reef patrol
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Facebook just keeps pushing weirder and weirder UI changes.

First they remove the feed sorted by date (or hiding it at least)

Then they change the Groups feed to only show sporadic "curated" content from each group

Then they make groups shift from post to post, like it's TikTok or YouTube Shorts, instead of a smooth scrolling down the feed.

And now they just completely removed Groups feeds, and turned it into a "here's a list of groups you might find cool" system. No content.

reef patrol
lyric hatch
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Could be useful if DirectStorage gets off the ground properly

ashen spindle
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Nah

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Current stuff is already fast enough for that also latency matters more than rather than bandwidth

umbral heron
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IOPS angery

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Gotta love SD cards
over 1.5 hours and nothing cutieCry

lyric hatch
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That reminds me I can't find my 3ds PepEsAd

umbral heron
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Mine is... somewhere duck_bopping

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But it's rpi backup image, and if that won't work then I'll have to spend next week creating a new one from scratch SilvFacePalm

halcyon moss
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SD cards go to die inside rpis

reef patrol
umbral heron
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I've set it up with overlayfs, despite that SDs still die after several months -.-

wheat plume
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Ive had my SD card in my Steam Deck since I got it

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and then moved it to the OLED when I got that

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its so satisfying popping in the SD card and seeing all the games immediately show up in the library tab

halcyon moss
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yeah but a rarely written game storage is something completely different from a os storage

ashen spindle
# cursive summit https://vxtwitter.com/SquashBionic/status/1776085853804413035

I'll do you one better. Here's the original PNG of the fake slide and the original email sent to MLID. Oh and btw, "FezPrinceEvent" is an anagram for "ZenFivePercent"

【QRT of Bionic_Squash (@SquashBionic):】
'Lmao, @mooreslawisdead took the bait. This slide is not from AMD. It's actually made by some of my friends who wanted to …

💖 6 🔁 2

cursive summit
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What's the joke with Zen 5%?

ashen spindle
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zen5% ipc

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because mlid thinks its a really small uplift and that name is jsut a joke from it

cursive summit
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None of the Zen generations had 5% IPC?

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Zen 5 will be like 20% if it's good mm

ashen spindle
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yeah but the joke is his early slides had zen5 at like no big uplift and ARL at 30-40%

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so take the name zen5 and add % to it, joke done

cursive summit
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I have heavy doubts ARL will not be a flop

ashen spindle
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which makes it all the more funny

umbral heron
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Ah... Good to see my grafana dashboard is finally working correctly pepecry

cursive summit
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Grafana? thonk

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That's a modern housing if you know how many kW you are consuming

old marlin
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giggle not sure if that is right

umbral heron
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That's AC power usage in server room at my workplace

old marlin
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wait

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ah rip

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forgot where the right webpanel for me was

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but we average out at like ~400kW

umbral heron
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And that power factor justright

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Eh, I'll rewire it tomorrow

analog sinew
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on saturday?

umbral heron
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Yeah, no one will bother me about "icinga sent an alarm, there's no data from sensors SilvREE "

cursive summit
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VideoCardz.com

AMD Navi 48 is the first confirmed RDNA4 GPU The company indirectly confirms its first GPU for the new series.  The NV48, not to be mistaken with 20-year-old NVIDIA NV48 GPU is the short codename for AMD Navi 48, the next generation discrete GPU. The development for this RDNA4-based GPUs has progressed, and it has […]

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"Begins development"?

ashen spindle
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yes

cursive summit
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It's already in development, what kind of title is "begins development"

ashen spindle
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read the full sentence please

umbral heron
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Navi 48 and 44? Of course AMD would do that - change naming convention after it was kinda established with Navi X3/X2/X1

ashen spindle
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well no not really

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those arent names for marketing but internal code names anyway

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like the top rdna3 sku was supposed to be N36 😛

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its mostly just based on when they begin working on it

pale sigil
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Good

wheat plume
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ooo a streaming service just for horror content 😍

reef patrol
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I thought it was another bad horror game.

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Cause they all look CGI as fuck

fair gull
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braflix still better

wheat plume
reef patrol
# fair gull

Someone less honest would probably say that it is morally acceptable to pirate content, no one's willing to sell you.

wheat plume
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If its literally impossible to buy it legally, then yeah...what else can you do?

fair gull
wheat plume
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XD

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sus name

reef patrol
wheat plume
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yeah 🤦‍♀️

fair gull
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we have reached a point where you sometimes dont know if youre even pirating or not

wheat plume
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TRUE .-.

fair gull
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suddenly

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youre a pirate

wheat plume
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Isnt that site the only "legal" way to obtain games not sold anymore?

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because nintendo themsevles have some of their games on there

fair gull
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nintendo has their games on there what?

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thats the first i heard of that

wheat plume
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yeah, I got super mario bros wii on there

fair gull
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yeah uploaded by some random user

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anyone can submit content to the archive

wheat plume
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nah, said nintendo was the uploader

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lemme try to find it again

fair gull
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highly doubt it

ashen spindle
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yeah if some rando typed nintendo as the user name probably xd

wheat plume
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probably

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but braflix sounds like the name of some offbrand videos website

fair gull
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open it

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just a video streaming platform

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they even have an app

wheat plume
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Hazbin Hotel is on there :O HELL YEAH can actually watch it in HD now

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Cause Amazon Prime doesnt do HD on Linux cause DRM .-.

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so I was forced to watch it in 480p 🤢

serene otter
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streaming services hate pc, almost never been able to actually get 1080p on any service on pc

reef patrol
fair gull
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dont know what that is

reef patrol
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Pirate streaming service that everyone thought was legal until police clamped down internationally

fair gull
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i see

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but then again as i said earlier it is tricky to determine sometimes

reef patrol
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Mhmm.

fair gull
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then theres the whole darkside of yt

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with cryptic video titles leading to 18+ content and full movies etc

marsh pewter
fair gull
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i wish

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that would be easy to follow

marsh pewter
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I mean if you search family guy on youtube you will just find hours long videos of family guy episodes

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however they zoom in every 4.13289 pico seconds

fair gull
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yeah im talking basically unaltered full on content

marsh pewter
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yea

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theres also the shockingly large amount of accounts that upload videos with 18+ "anime" content as a thumbnail

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be it shitpost status content or some random russian youtuber

reef patrol
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On the kids version of YT no less.

marsh pewter
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tbh...

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yt kids is actually worse than regular yt

zenith silo
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It really is

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My little brothers found this channel that just "finds" a bunch of "abandoned" kittens stuck in weird places like sewer drains

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But the dude posts like 3 videos a day of it

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Every video had millions of views as well

analog sinew
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oh theres tons of that

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or seaturtles with shit magically stuck to them

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yeah sure that turtle just had a coral reef on its back you totally didnt glue that on

zenith silo
analog sinew
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there are also animal fighting videos that just get recommended to you

zenith silo
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They were made of cardboard, but very clearly could kill them still🤣

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Those had like 20m views

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It was wild

marsh pewter
empty wren
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So they lied

atomic hornet
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would be better if they just provided the tools.

crimson wigeon
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That requires effort

old marlin
smoky frigate
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quite the avant-garde article from the Verge

fair gull
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"bulkier size" wha... the one in their image is the same size as print only color led from brother... they are about the same or smaller than normal ink copiers

smoky frigate
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it should be noted that this bit is right under sub-headline of "Here’s what Google Gemini had to say when I asked it about Brother laser printers, which is not worth reading but which is by definition an incredible example of experience, expertise, authority, and trustworthiness because Google is synthesizing the entire web for this information, right? Isn’t that the whole idea of these LLMs, or are we just kind of fooling ourselves"

fair gull
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my biggest gripe is that brother doesnt make laser printers

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at least all ive seen from them is LED printers

analog sinew
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pretty sure i have one

fair gull
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one what

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brother laser printer?

analog sinew
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yes

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they make plenty

steep creek
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same i think mines also laser

fair gull
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i mean yes they are all called laser

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but they dont use a laser like a laserprinter should

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they use LED bars

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laser copiers from xerox, kyocera and such use fancy mirrors and stuff to move a single laser beam accross the imaging drum

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brother just uses a LED bar thats very close with tons of LEDs

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saves spaces and price

analog sinew
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oh well i'm not that deep into printers

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they are all shite anyway

steep creek
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oh thats news to me

fair gull
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id say brother lasers are quite good

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although id personally prefer a kyocera or an OEM using kyocera parts/PCBs

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and not just a black/white printer of theirs but full on copier

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with a nice 3000 sheet A4 cassette or smth

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🤤

analog sinew
#

its decent for the random stuff i print. it does have some streakyness now though, no idea why

fair gull
#

depends on which direction the streaks go

#

its either toner dust on the imaging drum and it doesnt get discharged/charged properly OR the coating of the drum is wearing out

#

which the wearing out is expected after like 30k-250k pages depending on manufacturer and the general printer expected lifespan

analog sinew
#

i think dust got into contact with the drum

#

i have no idea what the cartridge is at, it was used

#

no biggie tho

#

one day i'm gonna take it apart and clean it

#

one day...

fair gull
#

depending on model its easier or a bit more involved to print a status page of the drum life

#

if it has a display and menu button its usually somewhere under machine info or such

#

if it doesnt have a menu button or display you usually have to hold some button(s) for it to print the status

#

if its used your brother could even be one of those ancient ones with like 10k pages per drum

#

also dont forget to get a new waste toner container

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and dispose of the old one properly

#

and no you definitely dont wanna just dump the contents somewhere

#

youll never get rid of anything not landing where you want it to cause it sticks to literally anything and everything

analog sinew
#

ik ik

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i just rarely use it and never brothered with it

fair gull
#

reminds me of all those times a new coworker at my old job dropped em and spilled em throughout the entire workshop

steep creek
#

now im a little curious if those big printer / copy combo machines use real laser or not

fair gull
#

they do

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they also still include mirror/laser glass cleaning mechanisms

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always sounds brutal when they run

steep creek
#

oh yeah it’s pretty loud, but color and all always comes out so nicely

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the ones at my university at least

fair gull
#

having disassembled quite a few at my old job i can at least speak for kyocera and xerox of the last few years having real lasers inside

steep creek
#

ah I can’t remember now which brand my university has but I believe it was either hp or canon

fair gull
#

oh noe im sorry for you uni

steep creek
#

lol

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they don’t get that much use tho afaik

fair gull
#

the ones id trust the most would prob be konica, sharp, kyocera and xerox in that order

steep creek
#

I will have to check the brand once I’m there but yes I am pretty sure it’s not one of those

fair gull
#

funny that the 3 top companies are japanese lol

steep creek
#

they make good products can’t deny that, ive had very good experiences with sharp but haven’t tried their printers

fair gull
#

konica is prob most well known in other circles but they make office copy machines as well

#

i think their main market printerwise is digital printing presses with things like the Konica PRESS C1070 and 1200

#

these lovely ladies

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sad i never got to work on one

steep creek
#

Aha the presser is there, I saw the picture before i read your message and assumed the whole thing was just a printer lol

#

The printer looks about the same size as ours though

fair gull
#

that would be concerning

#

given its like 2 m or more in length

steep creek
#

Yea definitely

cursive summit
#

Huh, @ashen spindle , I had a thought

#

One reason I am reluctant to upgrade my GPU is just cause it's very power efficient

#

Or so I think

#

RX 5700 seems to be 225W

#

I had a thought, if something like GRE is over twice as fast effectively

#

Wouldn't it also in theory be consuming less power?

ashen spindle
#

jsut wait till computex and get rdna4

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it depends power draw doesnt scale linearly

cursive summit
#

Yeah yeah but my question is, if something is twice as fast, does it also run half as fast to achieve same performance

#

Cause then GRE would be more power efficient than my RX 5700

#

Which already is very nicely efficient

ashen spindle
#

it doesnt scale linearly so idk without checking

cursive summit
#

Well, I tried

#

100W extra on top of my current card would amount to extra spendings over time

#

.. huh

#

Sure, I guess

ashen spindle
#

rdna4 seems to work fine aka not rdna3 power hungry

cursive summit
#

Well, can't wait for those cards

#

XTX perf for half price would be nice

cursive summit
#

That doesn't actually mean anything

#

You double that, and you end up with more watts cause you get double the frames

#

What's the power consumption on light tasks

lyric hatch
#

Idk look yourself

ashen spindle
ashen spindle
#

I would guess low resolution

#

I'm sure as hell not trying it

zenith rune
#

lol

astral haven
fair gull
fair gull
#

or is the font just garbage

#

cant even get the font preview to open the font file

crimson wigeon
#

Good now make a discord client for UEFI

#

Or matrix because muh TOS

cursive summit
#

Since when was there a DLSS 3.6

#

I fail to see any image improvements

#

Well I'm easy to please and I fail to see any graphical improvements lol

vagrant pagoda
#

some crouching tiger hidden dragon pvp game

wheat plume
#

Only AAC on these wireless buds 😢

#

And their bass is way too high even on the lowest setting

jaunty sandal
terse violet
#

If 80HE use as 8K, will I hear high frequency noise?

wheat plume
#

I hear such noise on my 60he if I turn the lighting to 100%
But it's barely audible
Just typing on the board normally drowns it out

#

But I doubt the polling rate will cause any noise

#

And I am also very VERY sensitive to high pitched noise

#

I hear that crap even if most others don't

terse violet
#

cool

#

thx for answering

wheat plume
#

Don't let that effect your decision to get the board or not
Especially considering how bright the lighting is
You'll never get anywhere close to 100% unless you use it outside on a sunny af day

#

I have mine around 40% and it's slightly too bright for my room xd

terse violet
#

thats ok I think I'm gonna use 50% brightness or less

wheat plume
#

Yeah aha most likely!

terse violet
wheat plume
#

Yep yep!

dapper onyx
#

is the wooting two (the fullsize keyboard) the same speed as the 60he? and is the 80he coming out significantly better than the previous 2?

unkempt lake
dapper onyx
#

have a wonderful week

sharp badger
astral haven
#

thats crazy good lel

#

i suspect most cases will look worse than that

lyric hatch
#

Yeah I tried to do the same thing with the older version without ai stuff and it was trash

#

Here's what it leaves on mine 😂

unkempt lake
dawn roost
#

Seems fun

cosmic thunder
wheat plume
#

Y'all think Intel are gonna make publishers lock games to systems with their cpus / gpus?

vital geyser
#

No

wheat plume
#

Like the MSI Claw etc etc ?

ashen spindle
#

what are you on about

crimson wigeon
#

Wat

wheat plume
#

Just my early morning corporate greed conspiracy theory moment

#

After experiencing the OLED Deck
These bezels are way way too large

severe phoenix
#

That is why these kinda things are silly

analog sinew
wheat plume
#

How you know?

analog sinew
#

msi is shitty, the device is whacko and the market has plenty of offerings

#

i dont see why you would go for it

cursive summit
#

MSI is pretty shit

#

Don't buy the Claw, bad hardware

#

Deck remains the number one handheld

#

Valve should just stuff some RDNA 3.5 iGPU and Zen 4 into the Deck, FHD panel and call it Deck 2

wheat plume
#

Surprised you think the Linux powered handheld is the best one currently

cursive summit
#

Sigh

#

I'd much rather have Windows

#

But hardware wise it's by far the best

#

Refined and near perfect

wheat plume
#

True true

analog sinew
#

and the price is good too

wheat plume
#

Very good!

cursive summit
#

With the LCD model Valve was just lowballing

#

Now it seems a lot more.. proper

#

It just felt like Valve was selling an incredibly low margin product to just get you into the "ecosystem", so when they release their proper toys next, you'd feel compelled to pay the proper price

#

350$ is really damn low

#

Then again, Switch is about the same price, with none of the quality though

crimson wigeon
#

Deckaaaaarrdd

cursive summit
#

It doesn't exist

frozen ingot
#

its pretty well known that valve is selling the steam deck for basically no profit

ashen spindle
#

no that is pretty well known to be speculation

analog sinew
#

they cn afford to, hence why the others will never beat them in price

ashen spindle
#

there is the assumption and some parts would make sense but we do not know the margins on the deck

frozen ingot
ashen spindle
#

we dont know their parts cost though

#

what you can get quoted for smaller batches is not what is paid at mass production

frozen ingot
#

I know

#

had an electronics business for a good 7 years, obviously nowhere close to corporate scale but still involves plenty economics of scale

ashen spindle
#

the only official comment we have is gabe saying the price was painful to hit

#

that could mean anything from decent loss to extremely low margin

#

also margins on oled deck are a lot better from the cheaper chips alone I imagine

cursive summit
#

Valve prolly made from breaking even to what, 20% profit margin or someshit on OLED?

#

Deck 1 was a statement, Deck OLED is the profit maker

#

If it's not memory overclocked, results mean nothing

#

Though I completely forgot 4070Super exists

#

Let's see... cheapest GRE locally 585, SUPER 681

wheat plume
cursive summit
#

Buy the DOS version mm

wheat plume
#

:')

#

Freedos gaming handheld when?

ashen spindle
#

I mean they are working with microsoft, there doesnt have to be a windows upcharge

#

it could be low, hell ms could even be subsidizing it

cursive summit
#

It's funny how different things are in EU

#

"At just 50$ off, GRE doesn't make a compelling option over Nvidia"

#

It's more like 130$ havo

#

NV seems to be priced fine in U.S, absolutely horribly in EU

ashen spindle
#

What? It’s like 30€ difference here

cursive summit
#

How

ashen spindle
#

570 for the cheapest gre 600 for the 70 super

lyric hatch
#

it's not avaiable here in NZ yet 👀

cursive summit
#

I do see some options for 600 4070S on Amazon.de

ashen spindle
#

Probably isn’t going to be at this point

cursive summit
#

Locally it's 557 for a three fan Sapphire GRE, and 600 for double fan SUPER

#

Which isn't even "local" cause the 600 SUPER is actually an outside the country seller who somehow always underbids local companies

#

Dunno why specifically here Nvidia GPUs are vastly more expensive unless you buy abroad

#

I still wouldn't buy Nvidia, too expensive, waiting for Blackwell/RDNA4

lyric hatch
#

AMD prices are pretty similar to Nvidia in NZ

cursive summit
#

I am extremely not picky when it comes to graphics, I like old looking stuff like Oblivion/Morrowind and I like bugs, glitches, visual artifacts, as long as they are just minor

#

So I wonder how much I would use the AFMF thingy

#

I heard it's very jittery, but double frames on any game sounds kinda cool

sturdy fog
#

Hi guys this might seem dumb but I just ordered my wooting 60 he in the iso layout and it seems I have to put my own keycaps on and I just was wondering that all I have to do it push them on gently in the right position.

cursive summit
#

You have to put on your own keycaps?

sturdy fog
#

I believe for the iso layout

cursive summit
#

Did you buy the prebuilt keyboard, or the module

analog sinew
#

iso comes without keycaps on yes

cursive summit
analog sinew
#

you just press them down

sturdy fog
#

Ok thank you @analog sinew

#

@cursive summit inside of that when you choose your keyboard layout it shows up

analog sinew
#

since iso covers multiple languages they arrive separately

#

only ansi is preinstalled

cursive summit
#

As far as I'm seeing 60HE is prebuilt even with ISO

analog sinew
#

no it is not

sturdy fog
analog sinew
cursive summit
#

Well if they are not, it's really simple to put them on

analog sinew
#

if you want it from staff

steep creek
#

yea tak is right

cursive summit
#

Meh I guess it makes sense for ISO to just send a set to DIY it

#

It takes like maybe 2 minutes at most

sturdy fog
#

ok thank you guys I just wasn’t sure because I have no experience in this lol and wasn’t sure if it would be easy

cursive summit
#

Those keycaps are really easy to put on

sturdy fog
#

Good to know I was slightly worried for a second

cursive summit
#

They kinda find their own way

steep creek
#

in the quickstart theres a picture of the layouts if you dont know where caps go and such

cursive summit
#

Only problem I have is that they take like 10% of the effort to put them in over taking em out

#

They are actually just really glued in there once they are in

#

A lot more force to pull em out

sturdy fog
#

well as long as it’s easy to get them in that perfect for me

cursive summit
#

Yeah to push them in is kinda akin to.. clicking the side button on your phone?

#

Very little force

#

To pull them out though dogekek

sturdy fog
#

😄

cursive summit
#

Oh yeah just the obvious cautionary reminder

#

When you are putting on keycaps, or messing with switches, position them the right way

#

Don't do it sideways or at oblique angles so you somehow don't snap the switch stem off

#

I mess with my keycaps quite a bit and I hadn't managed to do it in years, but it is reported that you can just snap the stems with haphazard application

alpine ibex
#

more money for less vram and slower card

cursive summit
#

All Nvidia cards are a scam here

alpine ibex
cursive summit
#

Hardware Unboxed are like "Oh yeah look at how useless RTX 2000 series are at raytracing, so don't plan your purchase with RTX in mind years later"

alpine ibex
#

usa cheapest
4070s $600
7900gre $550

cursive summit
#

But also "We are unable to say how much 4GBs of extra VRAM will be useful for you in the future"

#

Uh, what?

alpine ibex
#

exactly

#

thats why i never use hub

cursive summit
#

In 2017 I still remember people rocking 4GB VRAM cards

alpine ibex
#

tpu ftw

cursive summit
#

It's 2024, 7 years later, and 8GBs of VRAM is no longer enough

#

12GBs will prolly be obsolete in new titles in like 3 years

#

16 is defo a major futureproofer

alpine ibex
#

even at 1080p 8gb vram isnt enough on new titles

#

with no rt

cursive summit
#

Honestly, I'd buy a card that'd allow me to run Arma 4 when that comes out

#

I wonder how that will run tbf

alpine ibex
#

3070 = half the fps of 6800 bc of vram

cursive summit
#

VRAM is a big limiting factor nowadays

cursive summit
#

12 is enough for now but defo not for the upcoming future

#

Bohemia's own

sharp badger
#

The 3080 i've got is doing fine still. Will have to see what prices are once one upgrades next time

cursive summit
#

I forgot what it's called

#

It's a pretty damn great engine

#

Enfusion?

alpine ibex
alpine ibex
cursive summit
#

Enfusion runs really well even on my old RX 5700

#

A very friendly engine

#

In stark contrast to the engine it replaced, the Real Virtuality, which keeps fuckin lagging if you place more than 10 objects on the ground havo

#

I am incredibly hyped for Arma 4 pepecry

#

Many thousands of hours spent in Arma 3

alpine ibex
#

they use the same engine but there isnt benchmarks with new gpis 😦

cursive summit
#

AM5+?

#

So it seems 700 chipset might come with new cool stuff

ashen spindle
#

no it just means AM5 and going forward

cursive summit
#

How reliable is Kepler?

ashen spindle
#

very

cursive summit
#

Cause Kepler is on anandtech forums saying that AMD was planning a large iGPU with 16CUs RDNA 3.5

#

But it was cancelled cause Microsoft demanded an NPU and AI features

ashen spindle
#

oh yeah remember pluton? only added to amd chips because of MS, same with hawkpoint refresh adding more xdna tops for AI that nobody uses

cursive summit
#

Do we need NPUs in CPUs, genuinely?

#

Like, outside of AI, where are they useful

ashen spindle
#

other ai

#

like, MS teams background blur

cursive summit
#

So, nowhere really

#

I don't really get the need for an NPU in a processor

ashen spindle
#

dont you want more ai

#

you could do more AI with it

#

like, ai stuff or ai stuff

cursive summit
#

AI should run in a cloud

#

And NPUs should be in GPUs

#

Not in processors

steep creek
#

i mean what if you dont have internet access at that moment

cursive summit
#

You have a GPU with one

#

Business class laptops have no business running a local AI model

ashen spindle
#

nah it should not be cloud based

#

for training it sure for the big models, but then run locally

#

privacy reasons alone

cursive summit
#

Doesn't really explain what MES is?

#

Or how would this make things easier to tweak

ashen spindle
#

firmware stuff, not really relevant for consumers

#

basically hotz being dumb but public demand ligns up with what amd is doing anyway with rocm for some part so they open stuff for that

tepid helm
#

does optipoint switches fit in a wooting 60he

cursive summit
#

Severely doubt those work in a Wooting

#

Something like Gateron Jades that are specifically made to be compatible with Wooting, do

#

But if Gaterons are compatible with SteelSeries and Wooting, maybe OptiPoints work on Wooting, somehow, dunno why you'd want that though

reef patrol
cursive summit
#

They are optical

#

I dunno why you'd want to use not the official switches from the company you are buying

#

Wooting switches are great

cursive summit
#

I'd argue greatest GPU is RX 580 duck_sip

#

Or RX 480, that one was cool as fuck too

frozen ingot
#

you and all the 20 people who bought it

cursive summit
#

Polaris was massive here

#

Prolly cause of mining

#

But you could buy a 580 for 120$ in 2018

gusty kiln
#

the 580 was the default 1080p gpu for years

unkempt lake
cursive summit
#

In 2024 I can say that you were dumb back then

unkempt lake
#

For 150$ i didn't mind paying the extra

#

Dlss is dope

#

I was coming from a 980 back then

unkempt lake
#

I'd have upgraded earlier if it wasn't for it

cursive summit
#

It very much was not when 1080Ti can make use of FSR2 and XeSS

unkempt lake
#

Fsr2 looks like ass

#

I wouldn't use it

cursive summit
#

Wrong but whatever

unkempt lake
#

It literally looks like ass

cursive summit
#

Also wasn't 2080.. 10GB of VRAM?

#

Or was that 3080

cursive summit
unkempt lake
#

The new improvements with fsr 3.1 seem neat

#

I'll say

unkempt lake
#

I hate it

#

XESS is better

#

But not in every game

sweet cairn
#

DLSS does look better than FSR

#

But DLSS also looks like ass.

#

DLAA only gang

cursive summit
unkempt lake
unkempt lake
#

I did buy a 7900xtx after all

sweet cairn
unkempt lake
#

I know i can be picky

whole axle
#

would yall change anything?

#

ty

cursive summit
#

DLAA seems like one of the few good techs lately to come out of Nvidia

cursive summit
unkempt lake
#

In cyberpunk in particular the FSR was awful

#

So much artifacting around street lights when driving

cursive summit
unkempt lake
#

Felt like i was smearing vaseline on my screen

#

XESS quality looked nice tho

#

But xess aint in every game

#

Sadly

whole axle
unkempt lake
#

DLSS>XESS>FSR

cursive summit
#

Some games don't even allow XeSS to run on all hardware

#

Which is extremely dumb

cursive summit
#

Fractals are generally best but you seem to like NZXT then go for it

unkempt lake
#

Its a good card

#

Just install the anti sag bracket that comes with it

#

Thing's a fucking tank in weight

whole axle
#

someone told me the 4080 super was way better so i was getting second opinions

cursive summit
#

Super is not way better in any metric

unkempt lake
#

If the xtx is on sale

#

Sure

cursive summit
#

Definitely not in pricing

whole axle
unkempt lake
#

Same price i'd go 4080 super

whole axle
#

nzxt

unkempt lake
#

Significantly cheaper i'd go xtx

cursive summit
#

XTX is at least 10% cheaper than Super nowadays

#

Performs on par

unkempt lake
#

Except in RT if he cares about that

whole axle
#

i should mention the only games i play are fps. Val and CS. and Souls like. Maybe some cyberpunk.

unkempt lake
#

Do you care about having RT on in cyberpunk

#

And in aaa games

whole axle
#

not really

#

my monitor will be the 1440p 480hz from asus when that releases

unkempt lake
#

The xtx can still do some rt fine

whole axle
#

so i just need a card good for that

unkempt lake
#

It's just not amazing at rt

cursive summit
#

I'd take Radeon for competitive games just cause of better rasterization performance

unkempt lake
#

Just leave rt on like medium/high instead of maxed out

cursive summit
#

But there's an argument to be made for Nvidia reflex

whole axle
#

Is the 7900xtx overkill?

unkempt lake
#

Games run on a damn potato

cursive summit
unkempt lake
#

And he'll probably play hen on low

whole axle
#

I just need it to be able to get full frames on that monitor

unkempt lake
#

He could go cheaper and be fine

whole axle
#

so if i can get a cheaper gpu

#

all good by me

unkempt lake
#

Oh 480 fucking herts

whole axle
#

i just dont know which ones would be good

unkempt lake
#

I just read that

whole axle
#

yeah LMAO

cursive summit
#

480Hz, I am not familiar with Valorant that much, but I doubt anything can reach 480FPS in that game

#

CS.. high end GPUs can do that as far as I remember, but really high end ones

#

Cyberpunk nothing can reach that kind of framerate at 1440p

unkempt lake
#

Amd is significantly worse for CS than nvidia

#

@cursive summit since cs2

cursive summit
#

Meh then it'll do just fine

#

CSGO used to pull thousands of FPS on high end GPUs lol in some scenarios, CS2 is a lot worse

unkempt lake
#

I don't really play cs

#

But i was getting like 200 something fps in cs last time i was playinng

#

But i was running at native 5120x1440

cursive summit
#

Meh XTX will do prolly 400-500FPS in Dust or Mirage or even more if I am severely overestimating how hard is CS2 to run

unkempt lake
#

Because i don't really care

cursive summit
#

Ancient could drop prolly

whole axle
#

could i get away with like

#

a 7800xt

#

or sum

unkempt lake
#

Let me test

cursive summit
unkempt lake
#

7900xt probably would be fine

cursive summit
whole axle
#

gre or xt

cursive summit
#

GRE

unkempt lake
#

Depends on region

#

And price

whole axle
#

im in us

unkempt lake
#

What country are you in eriz

cursive summit
#

Cheaper, do a memory OC and it'll perform near 900XT performance

#

NV is ass at that price range

whole axle
#

memory oc hella unstable no?

cursive summit
#

Not on GRE

#

GRE is literally XT but factory underclocked cause reasons

#

With certain pipeline changes

whole axle
#

i usually go with xfx for my gpus is there a better one?

cursive summit
#

Sapphire and Red Devil are best imo

#

I forgot who makes Red Devil, Powercolor?

#

There's also Hellhound models which have been extremely good, I think also Powercolor

#

I'd go Hellhound as best you can buy on AMD side

whole axle
#

dude my info is wrong

#

people be telling me hellhound were bad

#

LMAO

cursive summit
#

Your people are shills or trolls

#

Hellhounds are considered the best

unkempt lake
#

If it helps

#

I booted up dust 2

cursive summit
#

Boot up Ancient

#

Ancient is a fucky map in terms of FPS

unkempt lake
#

Getting 300fps but am cpu bound, gpu is at 62% usage lol

whole axle
#

the hellhound is $150 more. Is that worth it?

cursive summit
whole axle
#

yup

cursive summit
#

Definitely not

#

No, not worth it

whole axle
unkempt lake
#

I'm running a 9700k @ 5ghz so

#

Yeah

cursive summit
#

I'd go with Sapphire

unkempt lake
#

I made it 2560x1440 low settings

cursive summit
#

No wait Sapphire is +50$

#

Fuck mobile Discord is hard to work with

#

Wait no Sapphire is 549 not 599

#

Yeah go with that

unkempt lake
#

Goal was to test the gpu perf tho

whole axle
#

puls eor nitro?

unkempt lake
#

Sorry that my cpu was holding back the results lol

cursive summit
unkempt lake
#

I like my XFX

#

ok ancient

#

Lets test

cursive summit
#

Gl

unkempt lake
#

Yeah this map uses a lot more gpu

#

But am getting 300fps

whole axle
unkempt lake
#

70% gpu usage

#

Still cpu bound

#

But with a much higher gpu usage

whole axle
#

wait no

#

101

#

mhz

cursive summit
#

Nitro is just a better quality card usually

#

For overclocking and such

whole axle
#

if its worth the $50 ill do it

unkempt lake
#

And here's ancient on max settings

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1440p

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@whole axle hopefully it helps

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updated list

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i got the price from $2400 to $1900

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switched a few things

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Guess it all depends on what settings you want to play at

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i play low

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for fps

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Well you can see my 2 screenshots

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Consider i'm on an older cpu

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and like medium for everything else lmao

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What's your PSU and cooler

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How much

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get like a 30$ thermalright asassin instead of a liquid cooler

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Anything nzxt i picked

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LMAO

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liquid coolers are overkill for amd cpus

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Oh ffs NXZT liquid?

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Defo not

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Peerless Assassin 30$

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This.

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so thats like 230$ saved

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yea thats good advice

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the 120 se?

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Unless you like the aesthetic of the AIO, just know it's extremely unnecessary.

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What's the PSU, how much

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And here's at 5120x1440 max settings xd

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for 110

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Aka how i'd play

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I'd rework it to make a 4080 super or 4090 work.

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Super ultrawide cs

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Lets gooo

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yeah the 120 should be like 30-50$

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Im not a competitive gamer idk if you could tell

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Good

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but if there is better

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ill do it

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I wonder when Antilag + will be back

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After the disaster

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Of vac bans

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Only regular antilag

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Also when you are looking at GPUs of that price bracket, the 5% extra FPS from games that favor red or green don't really mean much imo

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I only decided amd bc of SAM

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I remember Herkelman tweeting something about antilag+ coming back not too long ago

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Intel has its own SAM equivalent

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Lol

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huh

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how

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Resizable BAR

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Is what SAM is

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wtf

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i thought it was amd to amd only

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