🔌│tech

[karmic hedge]

Wooting also needs Cats on its product pics

[umbral heron]

As we could for 10 months already

[wheat plume]

yep :D

[wheat plume]

Indeed !!!

[umbral heron]

You have to contact support at [e-mail]

Also, put your order on hold https://hub.wooting.io/my/orders, so it won't go anywhere

[reef patrol]

You already received an answer over in #💬│general

[karmic hedge]

Added to #1141096226884956181

[wheat plume]

:P

AAAA I LOVE HAVING DEDICATED ARROW KEYS on my 60HE :D

they are shifted to the right by one key but thats fine cause right shift is long

I can position my fingers as if it wasnt shifted over

[clever temple]

I would also like to ask how long they respond to an email about order cancellation and how long I will have to wait for a refund

[vagrant pagoda]

The more you ask in more places the slower it takes

[umbral heron]

1~3 days until support responds to you, as refund tickets are given priority
Then 2~4 days until bank processes a refund

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah once a transaction has been processed it takes banks time to do it

[ashen spindle]

Msi claw released

No reviews because nobody got it early, software is bad and so is hardware

Also no embargo even lol

[analog sinew]

msi is the last company itd trust to make a handheld

[cursive summit]

Aaand nobody cares

I wonder how the Legion Go and the Asus one sold

I doubt they are that well selling

Trust is a major factor in selling anything nowadays, I don't trust Lenovo or Asus for a second

https://vxtwitter.com/lexfridman/status/1765869230308659483

Can't say I like Lex Fridman, but I like Yann, and they talk about great topics

[raw zephyr]

what do you dislike about lex

[cursive summit]

Way too buddy buddy with Elon

Not too familiar with them other than that

Meh they seem fine other than the Elon stanning

[marsh glade]

So you're blinded by the hate of one man so much that you let that seep into your opinions of other people who engage with them?

That seems silly...

[cursive summit]

Usually says a lot about someone when they stan a known idiot

Again, I didn't say I dislike Lex, they seem educated

I don't like them either

[steep creek]

i think he's fine, intereviews a few interesting people

[cursive summit]

I liked the one with Zuck

He's done many with a lot of cool people

[steep creek]

have not watched that but the one with jim keller was cool

[cursive summit]

Reminds me of Joe Rogan a bit

[steep creek]

he is like a toned down more relaxed version i guess lol

[cursive summit]

I should prolly watch that one with Keller

Jim's insanely inspirational

[steep creek]

yeah very knowledgeable guy

andrew huberman is also someone i like to listen to, lots of nice knowledge

[timber mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[cursive summit]

I was going to say, I don't like the insinuation of "blinded by the hate"

It's almost like there are no good reasons to dislike Musk

Especially with him using false facts and misinformation to try and influence elections in U.S rn

[timber mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[cursive summit]

But whatever I guess

[frozen ingot]

oh yah elon can eat a dick

[cursive summit]

Before the conversation derails, let's try to redirect

Let's discuss air fryers https://www.notebookcheck.net/Philips-3000-series-Dual-Basket-Airfryer-launching-soon.811060.0.html

[frozen ingot]

I just cook two or more different things in the same basket

[cursive summit]

I kinda fail to see how an air fryer is useful

I do have one, and I like mine

But it's just more bothersome than an oven or a normal pan

[frozen ingot]

uses a lot less electricity than my old crappy oven

and less hassle to clean than an oven tray of fries

[timber mantle]

Especially if you're in an apartment or just want to reheat

[cursive summit]

I guess I can see that yeah, less electrical consumption

But I'd rather clean an oven tray than a spinny cage

[timber mantle]

I wouldn't dump my oven but I dumped my microwave

[cursive summit]

Well that's why we invented microwave ovens

[frozen ingot]

I still have microwave but use it only for a few things

[timber mantle]

Depends on the type you have

[frozen ingot]

microwave also has hot air oven mode

[cursive summit]

Yeah my oven has grill, convection, microwave

[frozen ingot]

my old oven is just oven

[cursive summit]

Sadly not a normal "oven" mode

[frozen ingot]

built into my stove

[cursive summit]

Though this Samsung lasted for a long time now, and I bought it "refurbished"

Samsung do make good stuff as long as it's not phones

[timber mantle]

I have an insta pot one with shelves/trays. Stupid easy to clean.

[cursive summit]

I have an instant pot too but mine hasn't seen any use in years

Was really useful until I just got a normal induction stove

Induction stove is so much faster

[frozen ingot]

I got a crockpot multicooker and I use the pressure cooker and sous vide modes quite a lot

pressure also saves a ton of time and energy

[cursive summit]

My instant pot is prolly showing some age cause it's far slower than my induction

It takes like 15 mins just to pressurize

[frozen ingot]

induction is also really fast and strong

sometimes a bit too much

my parents got some induction setup and its kind of a pain getting it at the right heat sometime

[cursive summit]

Mine's really damn nice, timer, can control Watts in heating directly

[frozen ingot]

either boils too much or not at all

[cursive summit]

800W is more than enough to cook anything

Which is pretty damn economical imo

[frozen ingot]

yep I could def use a better stovetop

[cursive summit]

So yeah ever since I got an induction hob the instant pot has just been useless

I am insanely impressed with how quick induction is

I remember a pan heating up to danger territory in 30s and my primitive gas hob brain was insanely confuzzled how that's possible

[gusty kiln]

Bruh amd is going wild

@ashen spindle

[ashen spindle]

wtf

fucking hell man I wanted it to go down so I can buy in for cheaper

man I'm glad I didnt get tempted to sell when I breached 200 lol

[karmic hedge]

I got this one and I really love it https://www.amazon.de/COSORI-Heißluftfritteuse-Heissluftfriteuse-Touchscreen-Programmen/dp/B0936FGLQS/

you can fit in so much in this big boy slaps roof

[timber mantle]

You think you hate it now. Wait until you drive it!

[cursive summit]

Cosori is good

Ninja is better imo

[gusty kiln]

I have the instantpot air fryer oven

[cursive summit]

Man to think I could have bought AMD stock when it was 10$

[ashen spindle]

yeah except at that time you would not have known it would go even to 100

[cursive summit]

Lol no

I knew for a fact AMD was severely undervalued

I wanted to buy AMD for years now, no money 😦

[gusty kiln]

Ooo the fractal north xl looks nice

It can fit the asrock b650e taichi

[cursive summit]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/samsung-is-making-it-harder-to-know-what-type-of-oled-tv-youre-getting/

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD5aAd8Oy84

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LCEiVDHJmc

interesting watch

[pale sigil]

Inb4 we get SW-OLLED

[sullen torrent]

GPX 1st gen or Viper V2 pro?

[cursive summit]

https://insider-gaming.com/microsoft-confirms-russian-hackers-gained-access-to-source-code-and-internal-systems/

[pale sigil]

@misty saffron stop it

[cursive summit]

Just typical terrorist behavior

[marsh glade]

Midnight blizzard lol

As contrasted with Microsoft Blizzard

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/K-qAJA4B0p4

Subwoofer in IEMs?

[old marlin]

well

technically already a thing

what makes this one special is that it kinda emulates it with a 1dd iem

previously you could have 1dd tuned to do that and then different drivers for the rest

[cursive summit]

This one could have a pretty good quality DD and a sub instead of 2 mid DDs

Seems fine

[old marlin]

yea not a bad idea in principle

needs to show if it works well in practice

[cursive summit]

80$ competes with Hexa, I wonder if details are there

[umbral heron]

NVMe is amazing
From 40 minutes to install Helldivers 2 down to 3...

[cursive summit]

What SSD did you get

[umbral heron]

P5 Plus

[smoky frigate]

the difference is often not so big for loading times in games, but doing shit in the OS is gr8 with nvme

[cursive summit]

Meh sure it's fine

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-joker-joker-persona5-i-love-joker-persona5-gif-19781510

[umbral heron]

I went with it mostly because I'd rather have cache on SSD on PCIe 3.0
And because it was pretty cheap after coupon

[sharp badger]

Also will have use of that PCIe 4.0 once you're upgrading to a new mobo

[gusty kiln]

nvme can also read and write at the same time vs sata ssd

[cursive summit]

Hmmm https://www.headphonesty.com/2024/03/audio-technica-introduces-narukami-headphones-amplifier/

Far more than Sennies HE-1

[gusty kiln]

the only thing touching the HE-1 are the Shangri-la SR and Aperio

"HPA-KG NARU amplifier carries a price tag of $108,000"

breh

[cursive summit]

Seems very much like some kind of art piece

[gusty kiln]

you can buy 3 of these

https://headphones.com/products/warwick-acoustics-aperio

for the price of that amp

[cursive summit]

I've heard of Warwick recently, dunno how good they are for that kind of pricing

[gusty kiln]

they are top tier

[cursive summit]

Tbf regardless, in headphone sphere you hit diminishing returns real fast

2 grand set of amp and cans will be on par with whatever HE-1 is

[gusty kiln]

the energizer actually has EQ (analog?) built in

so it sounds close to harmon

[cursive summit]

Eventually I want to get AKG K812s and RME ADI-2 FS as my endgame rig

Really don't need anything else than that

[gusty kiln]

only the 3090s make sense for the VRAM

3080s need to be like 100 cheaper

[sharp badger]

But 100year old wood 🤯

The headphones feel more like an artpiece, the HE-1 too with them tubes

Why would one buy the 3000 series? to collect?

[ashen spindle]

cheaper than 40 series

not wanting to deal with the fire hazard 12pin

[astral haven]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-FreeSync-drops-60-Hz-in-the-name-of-immersion-144-Hz-new-minimum-spec-for-tear-free-gaming.811115.0.html
this headline scared me, fortunately it doesnt apply to 4k or higher displays

[latent kiln]

I wonder how nuts the RTX 5090 will be

Both in terms of price and in terms of performance

[analog sinew]

5090$

[latent kiln]

If it costs 1500 i might consider

[gusty kiln]

my guess is $1999

but they'll keep the 5080 at 999

[analog sinew]

who am i kidding, i might just buy one because i want a new pc and unless amd has something better that will be the go to

we'll see

[gusty kiln]

I've upgraded my CPU/GPU/RAM and Boot drive

should be good for another 4-5 years

3700X > 5800X3D
RTX 2080 > RTX4070 Ti Super
16GB 3600CL16 > 32GB 3200CL14 B-Die
and 990 Pro

[latent kiln]

I am still rocking a GTX 1070 and i7 6700k haha

I wanted to buy new but meh

Prices are dumb

[vague needle]

I just upgraded from my 6700k/1070 last year. Was very solid

Prices are honestly fine right now

At least in the US

[latent kiln]

Rtx 4080 Super sold out here

And places that have it it's much higher than MSRP

I might wait for 5090

if it comes in October-November

[astral haven]

3090 sep '20

ti mar '22

4080 nov 22
super jan '24

wouldnt break the pattern

[ashen spindle]

it's more likely next year

[astral haven]

🙁

[ashen spindle]

cpu looking good this year, gpu not so much

[astral haven]

not looking good for me, am5 still doesnt have any boards with 24 lanes in slots, didnt bother checking intel lel

any gen 5 x16 to dual x16 AIC's yee?

[ashen spindle]

cant say I really looked for that but also didnt notice anything new in that area

[astral haven]

im not desperate enough to get an apex x16 and praying it would support m.2 to pcie

[ashen spindle]

even if boards for z5 come out in time and it launches next month we'd not get leaks about boards so I never really look for that stuff before a launch

nobodys going to leak a mobo layout lol

stuff like accidental listings and such aside

[astral haven]

whats the likelyhood of them making a new category of board for z5 that they didnt have for z4

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral haven]

and the bigger question is did amd's rules banning chipset x8 slots get dropped

amd becoming more like intel is expected but still irritating

[ashen spindle]

I would assume they want to cash in on a big launch so I would guess they are making more boards but what specs those have, no clue

[astral haven]

i dont want threadripper 😦

[ashen spindle]

I mean I just want these damn things to finally release so I can put the older pc down as a nas

[astral haven]

these?

[ashen spindle]

z5 skus

[astral haven]

yea new stuff

time spy gpu score average for 7950x3d+ 4090

and the 2495x

[dusk marlin]

Does wooting stock cable support usb 3.0?

Also does the keyboard only need 2.0 to run properly?

[reef patrol]

Yes and yes

[dusk marlin]

alright

[lunar marsh]

the best score i was able to get

#4 apparently with this combo

[sharp badger]

Tried undervolting the 3080 and it did do something in Time Spy, running the 12700K @5.1GHz all cores now too

[cursive summit]

https://futurism.com/the-byte/mit-magnets-ready-fusion

https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-may-debut-its-first-ai-pcs-later-this-month-204522580.html

Snapdragon X Elite is coming this month

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-video-upscaler-arrives-for-rx-7000-gpu-owners-yearning-for-nvidias-rtx-video

[pale sigil]

Wait what

What's the real world difference though

Oh basically nothing

[sharp badger]

Yeah well the card should run cooler because it uses less power

[pale sigil]

Can't really say I have that issue myself with mine.

At least in most cases, I guess the vram is hot though.

[sharp badger]

Haven't really done anything to the 3080 before now with clocking and apparently it did something, even if it's slight might have to tinker more

[fickle ore]

could've would've 😛 it all seems so obvious in hindsight

Do the same with intel!

[cursive summit]

I don't trust Intel enough

[fickle ore]

My cost basis on Intel is 30$

[cursive summit]

AMD was going to go up in 2017, that was blindingly obvious

[fickle ore]

youll say the same about intel in 5 years

[cursive summit]

I just had no money and I continue to have no money for investments

[cursive summit]

Yeah but unlike with AMD, I didn't want to invest and continue to not want to invest in Intel

My biggest regret is not investing into AMD, that was an easy prediction it would go way up

[fickle ore]

no point regretting it, u didnt and thats it

look for the 2nd best thing now

[cursive summit]

Not too sure what that'd be

[fickle ore]

whatever that is for you

[cursive summit]

Whatever makes nanotech, AI tech, fusion tech, etc that isn't above 10$ lol

Dunno what ticks those boxes

[fickle ore]

Check some company that makes SiC or GaN semis

growing bis

[cursive summit]

Semiconductors are a very safe bet

The more we move up in the world, the more semiconductors we'll need

That's just obvious

[fickle ore]

Dont make it too hard then just ETF it

[cursive summit]

Holy shit what

800 to 2000 in a year?

Settled down for now lol

[fickle ore]

Yeah samsung is great, hard to buy tho

[cursive summit]

Meh, doubt they'll go up

Intel is pretty low, but Intel's biggest enemy is Intel

Would be nuts if they skyrocketed though

[fickle ore]

Meta was very good for me

[cursive summit]

What I was thinking though, and I will admit took me by complete surprise

Is Nvidia skyrocketing cause of AI hype

And just WSB shilling it hard

I was always hoping Nvidia would crash cause it was heavily inflated by their failed self driving cars

But alas, they are doing more well than they should

[fickle ore]

Well if theres a chance intel can go where nvidia is currently at market cap wise, which isnt impossible, intel would basically 10x

so you'd be looking at 400$ per share

[cursive summit]

Intel is investing into the right areas imo

AI, foundries

Just people are sceptical?

[fickle ore]

• Mobileye

its better than Tesla FSD

everyones making AI chips though

[cursive summit]

I fail to care for Tesla but whatever

[fickle ore]

But ye Im in Intc bc it missed the current semi hype

risky but w/e

[cursive summit]

I'd rather buy options but in EU you can't sell them mid-term

Only at end date

And I have no clue how tf Intel can even do in a year

Not well in CPUs that's for sure, who knows in GPUs

Foundries will start up much later

Seems like a relatively obvious buy but that's a "hodl" for next 5 years

[fickle ore]

thats gambling, just buy stocks lol

[cursive summit]

Who doesn't love gambling lol

Also options are far cheaper than stocks

[rough osprey]

people that dont win

[fickle ore]

yea its gonna backfire

for most

@cursive summit it took microsoft 15 years to regain dot com bubble btw

dont be so sure intel cant do the same return story

[cursive summit]

Oh Intel will definitely go up it's a given

Just when

[fickle ore]

thats the exciting part

[cursive summit]

Defense industry seems like an alright buy rn

[fickle ore]

whats that

[cursive summit]

Thales? French company

Makes a fucky ton of stuff

Thermal cameras, vehicles, etc

They are very big

[fickle ore]

oh cool

Yeah defense as a whole just keeps reminding me how truly stupid I am

Humbling exp

[cursive summit]

Unironically could just buy Nokia

Those 5G towers aren't bringing them many riches

[fickle ore]

I have too much xD

mby 6G will be turning point

tbh they need a merger with ericsson

[cursive summit]

Tele2

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/rsgnl/status/1766489428539617672?s=46

Joe Rossignol (@rsgnl) on X

NEW: The base model M3 MacBook Air has significantly faster SSD speeds compared to the M2 base model. YouTube channel Max Tech/@VadimYuryev's teardown has revealed that Apple has returned to using two 128GB storage chips for this model, instead of a single 256GB chip.

Twitter · Mar 9, 2024, 3:41 PM

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QFJLszvDwg

oh boi

really sneaky

i like it

[quick ether]

does wny one know of any goodclear and black duble shot pbt key caps

[strong timber]

anyone have the new LG 4K 240Hz / 480Hz OLED 32GS95UE Monitor i want the asus version but its not coming out in time and lg has pre order already out (for a 4090 build)

[halcyon moss]

I already find 144 plenty, I can't imagine doing 480

[sweet cairn]

It's really a very specific market of 1080p competitive players

and tbh lets not kid ourself, its' marketing. Maybe the world champ with insane genetics can tell 480 apart, but the average competitive player can not.

[rough osprey]

1440p too soon

[gusty kiln]

I think 480hz with BFI will be obvious for most people

but by itself prob not

[rough osprey]

lets see if they even gonna do bfi at 480hz

[gusty kiln]

I thought zowie already did it

[rough osprey]

ye on the tn

same as asus

[gusty kiln]

oh you mean on oled

[rough osprey]

yes

[gusty kiln]

most likely not

[rough osprey]

although most reviews ive seen say that the bfi at 540hz isnt really noticeable

[gusty kiln]

yeah their 360hz dyac already looks very good

[rough osprey]

if the panel would look good 😵‍💫

[gusty kiln]

prob need to increase the UFO speed to see the benefit of 540hz

https://www.displayninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/BenQ-XL2566K-vs-ASUS-PG27AQDM-UFO-Test.png

so clear

[rough osprey]

now add contrast

[gusty kiln]

who needs constrast if need can see enemies in shadows

[rough osprey]

😵‍💫

[gusty kiln]

wonder if IPS panels are still going to innovate

oled took over the high-end good-looking monitors

TN corner the esport

VA for budget curved monitors

[uncut wing]

MicroLED is probably going to be the end game once it comes to market

[gusty kiln]

that's what I'm waiting for but $$$

holding onto my M27Q-X until then

[uncut wing]

yeah, apparently it's meant to be cheaper to manufacture but going to be a while till it comes to market

[rough osprey]

i wouldn't expect to see it in monitors first

probably gonna be available in tvs or phones before that

[mild dome]

Apparently Apple considered it for the next iwatch

[rough osprey]

its the "big" redesign or sum

would be cool

[mild dome]

I wasn't expecting the tech would get that small already

[uncut wing]

usually how it goes, but since it should be cheaper to make than OLED I can see it getting adopted pretty quickly

[ashen spindle]

no the issue is making it cheaper xD thats why its not on the market yet

we have the tech but it's way too expensive with the methods we have atm

[uncut wing]

For now, yes. It's predicted to be cheaper than OLED though.

[mild dome]

Irc making the microleds is the easy part, but the you need to attach them to the circuit board, test them, and the swap out the leds that are out of spec.

This all takes a while to complete

[ashen spindle]

I mean oled itself is already known to not be the end, if micro led or something else comes is the real question

[mild dome]

Meanwhile a Smash Melee player begs for a new CRT

[gusty kiln]

a good BFI monitor with scanlines not good enough for smash players?

[mild dome]

No, quite infamously Melee players absolutely must have the original hardware to run their games. That includes CRTs and gamecube controllers (Though the gamecube controllers needs a very specific manufacturing defect that makes wavedashing easier)

There were a dozen reasons everyone was moving up to Smash ultimate until the pedo shit crashed the tournaments popularity

[umbral heron]

Either KDE is actually pretty nice once it's not updated from 5 to 6, but fresh installed, and with some addons for it installed
Or it's just Stockholm syndrome talking
Floating panels are really cool, but the only issue I have with them is that you can't set constant width for widgets inside the panel, so when panel has "Fit content" width, and you have seconds in clock enabled, then panel "jumps" as its width changes every second, so for now I'm keeping to constant width option

[wheat plume]

Oh... Changing each second is awful

Can you fix it by adding a really thin flexible spacer next to it?

[halcyon moss]

Change the font to a monospaced one

[wheat plume]

That too

[thick elk]

Never used anything but full width panels myself, but interesting thing to run into. On a related note kde can be pretty fast with fixes sometimes:
reported a bug on friday, fix got merged the same day, landed on nate's blog yesterday and should be deployed with 6.0.2.

To be fair it was a crash, plasmashell crashed opening a window on a screen connected to a secondary gpu, in my case the primary device was integrated graphics.

[noble sluice]

someone who know about mouse which is the best settings here

[smoky frigate]

DPI setting depends on the size of your mousepad. I have a small mousepad and for best overall I run 2400dpi, sniping stuff in games I kick it down to 1600. not sure what "motion sync" is

[timber mantle]

1600 and adjust your sens

It's better than setting it at 800 with a higher sens.

[rough osprey]

keychron?

or lamzu

[noble sluice]

lamzu

[rough osprey]

i would turn motion sync off

other then that seems good

[timber mantle]

Love em

[smoky frigate]

one of these files is being sold as the "high res" version, the other one I upsampled from the CD version to the same sample rate and bit depth... excellent work

[rough osprey]

classic

[mild dome]

I notice less blue in the right side, does that mean less noise?

[smoky frigate]

it can, but in this case, it is probably a volume difference due to everything else being a bit shifted. in any case, the right one is the one I upsampled myself 🤦‍♂️

[crimson wigeon]

Nice

[marsh pewter]

if you value battery life set it to 1000hz

(also a lot of games dont support above 1khz)

[ashen spindle]

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/2024-03-04-looking-glass-news/208014 oh damn VFIO almost getting to the point where I'd consider using it, probably still just putting windows on my next machine but at thsi rate the one after might just be linux and vms

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/charlieintel/status/1766845216751841450?s=46

CharlieIntel (@charlieINTEL) on X

Former Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick has expressed interest in buying TikTok, per the Wall Street Journal.

TikTok is facing a potential ban in the US as a bill advances through Congress, and Kotick has expressed interest in acquiring the company. https://t.co/7PWEBn1Lqn

Twitter · Mar 10, 2024, 3:15 PM

😵‍💫

[reef patrol]

[smoky frigate]

koticktock soon??

[rough osprey]

[cursive summit]

Bobby does not have the money to buy TikTok lol

https://www.forbes.com/sites/elanagross/2020/07/29/a-reported-takeover-bid-values-tiktok-at-50-billion/#:~:text=TikTok expects to bring in %246 billion in,using the current 50 times projected revenue model.

With what money is he buying it

[halcyon moss]

Investors

[cursive summit]

He could buy maybe... 20% at best?

Nowhere near to have a majority ownership of it

It's also Chinese which complicates matters

[reef patrol]

Let him pull an Elon, and turn the platform into even more of a dumpster fire.

[cursive summit]

As much as Elon ruining Twitter is a good thing

Elon is extremely harmful rn and I hope he gets disappeared

[steep creek]

Tiktok with micro transactions lol

[reef patrol]

Just watched a news segment of how kids are constantly treated to beheadings, graphic sex and very violent content on a nest daily basis on TikTok.

[smoky frigate]

doesn't sound worse than growing up on 4chan

[cursive summit]

Hahah

NVDA is overvalued by at LEAST 10x

[reef patrol]

Sure. But you had to seek out 4chan. It was never a mainstream social media platform.

[cursive summit]

Has been for over a decade

Yes, what Nvidia does is important

Yes, they hold a key to the future

But their valuation is just 10x over the top, no question about it

Has been since self driving cars

Impressive revenue though

[analog sinew]

dotcom bubble? never heard of it

line goes up

[summer condor]

most games are dumb with how they handle mouse inputs, but for games that give you a proper multiplier for the sensitivity like source engine games usually do for example, you'll want it as high as it'll go, as long as your mouse's sensors doesn't have any issues tracking there. otherwise- 1600 is a decent general purpose dpi.

[reef patrol]

Fuck that.

That means I have to tweak my mouse DPI up and down constantly.

Give me a game that increases the read rate, but keeps the movement consistent. Not like in dragging the mouse any faster.

[marsh pewter]

high DPI low sense

[reef patrol]

Yeah - having to adjust this constantly.

Cause not every game offers a consistent setting.

[summer condor]

which is super dumb tbh. highdpi/low sensitivity makes for better responsiveness and control overall. Dunno why games insist on having some weirdly high minimum sensitivity.

that said- i just use a dpi button and/or game profiles on my razer mouse

auto switching profiles works fine (until it doesn't and you have to alt-tab a couple times to make it work. love razer software...)

[coarse brook]

There’s diminishing returns above 1600 and some mice introduce smoothing above 3200. It’s not recommended to use above 3200.

800-1600 is the sweet spot

@noble sluice

[ashen spindle]

thats kinda outdated info, for old mice it still applies but with higher Hz you want >1600dpi and lower sens instead

[summer condor]

modern mice have good enough sensors for DPI in the tens of thousasnds with zero issues, so long as the game supports it

old mice would have issues even if the mice technically let you set it that high but i think that's not the case with any decent mouse nowadays

[sharp badger]

Hmm maybe i'd need to change up my DPI then 🤔

Currently using Windows mouse sensitivity at 4 & DPI 1000

[pale sigil]

That's high dpi

[sharp badger]

I've used 600 & 800 too

Was using mouse sense at 6 with DPI at 600 for a while, need to test some in game sense to get a feel, Mouse sense 6 and 1600 DPI feels waay to fast on the desktop though lol

[ashen spindle]

for games you just want higher dpi, not faster aiming as you can just turn down sensitiviy by half if you double dpi

especially on higher hz polling mice 800dpi isn't ideal and even 1600 not that much

[sharp badger]

Ah i see

Need to change mouse pointer setting back to 10/20(default) and test things, 600DPI felt good on the desktop then but have to test using the 1600DPI with lower in game sense later

[fickle ore]

high dpi is more taxing for CPU

If you're experiencing stutters use lower dpi

[ashen spindle]

are you sure you are not mixing up higher dpi with higher hz

[fickle ore]

Of course not, it's just compounded by higher hz

[astral haven]

dpi is the hz of the photosensor of the mouse

[fickle ore]

The dpi count defines the amount of crosses or deltas to be processed, i.e the game has 2 x movement deltas (at 1600 dpi) to process compared to say 800 dpi.

[astral haven]

but it has no direct impact on the report rate and thus the data sent to the pc unless you also increase the report rate higher than the dpi

[ashen spindle]

I just never heard of anyones mouse dpi settings being the cause for stutter

certainly not 3200

[astral haven]

thats internal to the mouse, not external

[fickle ore]

Its external

because the cpu still has to process it

even if the cumulated x/y will be applied to the game

[astral haven]

X movement: This is a signed 8-bit integer that represents the X movement. Bit 7 (value 0x80) determines the sign of the value. When this value is negative, the mouse is being moved to the left. When this value is positive, the mouse is being moved to the right. Notice that unlike PS/2 mice, the movement values for USB mice are 8-bit signed integers and not 9-bit integers.

Y movement: This is also a signed 8-bit integer that represents the Y movement. When this value is negative, the mouse is being moved up. When the value is positive, the mouse is being moved down (towards the user.)

that is the data sent over hid

you can have a maximum of report rate of these per second

minimum absolute value is 1

https://wiki.osdev.org/USB_Human_Interface_Devices#USB_mouse:~:text=the interface descriptor.-,Report format,-This report must

[fickle ore]

Yes thats true, how is that relevant tho?

[astral haven]

the mouse submits the total

there can never be more than report rate totals

[summer condor]

yeah dpi has zero performance impact

[fickle ore]

not true

[astral haven]

if you have a sens of lets say .1 vs 1 and a dpi of 10k vs 1k, the result is identical

[summer condor]

it's all the same from the computer's perspective

it's just a higher or lower decimal value being sent

[astral haven]

the only difference is when you are moving so little that the movement isnt picked up

[summer condor]

^

higher dpi makes the sensor know you're moving a teeny bit sooner

[fickle ore]

Wrong

[summer condor]

but even then it's virtually nothing for computer performance

[astral haven]

look dag you keep saying to the contrary, but i linked the actual packet composition of HID mice

[fickle ore]

idgaf, I will think how to explain this to you

[summer condor]

oh it's an integer value not decimal? mb.

still though it's gonna be a numb-

m8 that's hz

[astral haven]

you read dag

[summer condor]

missed the left there but there's still nothing here backing up what you said??

you've got a chart with next to zero context

and no explanation

apple performance graph vibes tbh

[astral haven]

nah its pretty self explanatory

[fickle ore]

the amount of saturation (=cpu usage) is dependent on dpi and hz and moving speed. i.e dpi plays a part especially at high hz for stutters.

[astral haven]

no

well yes, but no

[fickle ore]

yes.

Especially at 8khz you'll want to test if your game will lag at e.g 400 dpi. For some it doesnt if it does at say 2k+

But games are bad at handling buffers too

[astral haven]

if you are doing something that stupid sure

but we are talking about someone with reasonable figures like 800 and 1600 at 1khz

[fickle ore]

1 khz shouldnt lag on modern pc even at full saturation

idk about 10 yo laptops

[astral haven]

ive had it happen

usually with slow programs

on desktop

i had to drop from 1k to 500 on a 8700 non k

[fickle ore]

prob after the security thing fiasco, my sandybridge became so sloppy after that

it was good and giving like 300 fps before all those patches

[fickle ore]

First graph was bugged, but yeah at 8khz and 400 dpi you'd have to be constantly moving the mouse like at 0.5 m/s to saturate, so it's safe to say you'd not be fully saturating it for 90 % of the time.

Iirc apex used to be one laggy game with over 1khz mice

@astral haven but your right, it would still cause stutters at times even with low dpi

[astral haven]

and yet we were talking about 1kdpi+

[rough osprey]

the saturation is also different from mouse to mouse

[astral haven]

and those speeds are really slow

[fickle ore]

@astral haven from what i've measured with mousegraph, most desktop movements if Im slow are in the ballpark of 0.01-0.3 m/s, its only higher in games if im flicking then I can reach over 4 m/s

slow tracking will be def below 0.5 m/s i feel like

[astral haven]

so you still would be saturating at 1kdpi on desktop

[fickle ore]

Yep

[astral haven]

so whats your point

and heres another thing

[fickle ore]

1 khz

This graph doesnt show saturation % though, so we can't know if, i.e 2000 dpi at 1 khz will have 100 % but 400 dpi at 1 khz will have 75 %?

Each poll can have data or not

[astral haven]

400dpi is 400hz, so its 40%

[fickle ore]

75% saturation rate would imply every 4th packet doesnt not need to be processed

[astral haven]

no

[fickle ore]

well on average

[astral haven]

75% saturation means that 3/4 of the packets are sent

[fickle ore]

Ya

[astral haven]

only the shittiest of devices report without movement

[fickle ore]

Huh? Mice don't report anything without movement

atleast deltas

[astral haven]

they are allowed to report nothing and some awfully programmed mice do that

[fickle ore]

Wooting won't either in normal mode. In Xbox or was it p/s mode iirc it spams inputs and floods all of the avialable polls

[astral haven]

i have a macropad that does

[fickle ore]

ah nvm I read you said shittiest device dont report without movement

[astral haven]

but the point is more that if anyone is using even remotely reasonable settings, it will saturate 1khz no problem

and the settings proposed earlier were extremely reasonable

[fickle ore]

yeah you cant leverage dpi on 1 khz to alleviate stutters, but to be fair they're only issue on > 1khz

[astral haven]

but you can run 32kdpi and .01 sens or 3.2k dpi .1 sens and they are identical

at least at 2khz

[fickle ore]

Not saturation wise. 32k dpi would have over 10x deltas in the same time frame over y distance., 0.1 sens would just imply game is using more granular yaw angle

[astral haven]

no dag you dont get it

as soon as you saturate, thats it, theres always the same 2k reports

[fickle ore]

Yeah if you saturate it then its identical, unless there are buffer issues which there are in many games as per Fiend

Games need to get better

[astral haven]

you receive the 2k packts of a movement of lets say 40 for 32k dpi and 4 for 3.2k, both get multiplied out to the same result in the end

[fickle ore]

But are they different in the raw input api level? The other is 10x the other until they're multiplied?

[astral haven]

nope

its still the same 8 bits

[fickle ore]

mmh

[fickle ore]

Yeah that makes sense. The same cumulative delta is sent to raw input api, and that api gets flooded solely by higher hz (in combination with high dpi fully saturating it)

@astral haven What would happen at 32k dpi @ 125 hz flicking 7 m/s (=70551 counts per update) then? 16-bit mcu data path is 65535 wide. Would that result in oversaturating data path and packets getting discarded? Actually that's exactly what happened in older mice (8-bit mcu's) but idk nowadays.

[astral haven]

no packets would get discarded, but counts over the limit would within the mouse

[fickle ore]

Would've thought mcus were smarter these days and saved it on the buffer for the next update

[astral haven]

i mean who knows, they might do that, but it would have no effect on the computer

[fickle ore]

Just lag tho? x amount of deltas getting defferrend to the next 8ms packet

[astral haven]

it would still only be 125 packets per second, at that dpi youd probably keep filling up every packet

1 packet = 1 delta

at least that the computer processes

the magnitude of each delta would be huge, but its still just 1 integer being processed, and its however big it is

[fickle ore]

Gotta test it one day maybe the lag is noticeable or we can see if overhead counts (above 65535) getting buffered indefinitely.

[astral haven]

id be shocked if they buffered tbh

btw its +- 32k for 16 bits

• being left and + being right etc

[fickle ore]

mh yeah half of 65k then if just going to left or right

[strong timber]

what should i get for my 4090 oc i9 14900k build

LG 4K 240Hz / 480Hz 1080P OLED 32GS95UE Monitor

or ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP 240hz 4K / 480HZ 1080P OLED

[astral haven]

they are the same panel, get whichever is cheaper or has better warranty in your area

[sweet cairn]

Kinda crazy to play 1080p with 4090

[ashen spindle]

maybe thats why he's looking at 4k screens

[sweet cairn]

shouldn't even be entertaining 1080p and yet here we are lol

[marsh pewter]

he isnt, thats probably why he listed 4k monitors

[astral haven]

the panel is 4k240 and can run at 1080p480hz

[soft kelp]

I would still choose xt 7900 xtx over 4090

[sweet cairn]

even more crazy to run 1080p on a higher resolution monitor

[ashen spindle]

I think you are missing the point these screens are made for that

so you can get double the refresh rate when doing that

[astral haven]

neither can get anywhere near 4k240, and thus you need to use dlss/fsr, and dlss is quite significantly better

besides the 4090 does at least get closer

[rough osprey]

depends on what he plays lol

[soft kelp]

Yep.... (me at home regreting at owning 3060 ti, that i bought in april last year, instead of 4070 ti or 4070 super)

[soft kelp]

Good thing is that it has oc option

[sweet cairn]

OC is hella overrated in 2024

[soft kelp]

I donno if its any better if its on 3060 ti

Cuz this card ia made up to 1440p

[sweet cairn]

I owened an Asus OC 3070ti a couple of years ago and OCing it produced very minor results. Not wroth it.

[soft kelp]

This card is gainward ghost rtx 3060 ti oc, and it has some expertool II, and I would prob overclock it for lower voltage usage and more fps

[astral haven]

use the native nvidia tool

[soft kelp]

Cuz it goes imidiately up to 80°C when running ScrapMechanic or Valorant on normal graphic setings

[soft kelp]

Or I will mby use the programe from Msi, and fan spinning(RPM setting) curve on different temps

[uncut wing]

Probably best to wait for reviews. Even though they’re likely the same panel, the price and factory tuning can be very different. Monitors Unboxed on YouTube usually does really good reviews on the newest monitors.

[pale sigil]

480hz

[ashen spindle]

?

[summer condor]

genuinely really looking forward to 480hz 1440p tbh. Hoping it's... about as affordable as a monitor like that could possibly be expected to be lol

would get the 360hz 1440p oleds that dropped recently but apparently the motion clarity's visibly not as good as 500hz-ish monitors or even some of its LCD competition?! and that clarity's important for me tbh

[strong timber]

ive seen some on the LG but NONE like nothing has been release on the asus one

like no prices or nothing

bur LG has pre order rn

[uncut wing]

There is OLEDs coming with Black frame insertion (BFI) but they’re limited to 120fps with it on and lower brightness. Very good motion clarity.

480hz 1440p probably won’t be till 2026 or late 2025 at the very earliest.

[summer condor]

iirc i heard there's one expected toward the end of the year?

nah though i specifically want higher refreshrate

even 390hz leaves enough lack of clarity for my eyes and brain to not fully process things well when i'm not feeling great

and motion sickness gets better for me the higher my fps too

[uncut wing]

Actually yeah I think 480hz was coming sooner, was thinking 500hz+ that was later

[summer condor]

sure HOPE it's coming sooner at the very least

want

comfy

though i also hope games start adopting asynchronous projection to let more people take advantage of those monitors' framerates...

[uncut wing]

For better motion clarity you do want WOLED which I think the 480hz was going to be in. QD-OLED isn’t as good in that regard.

[summer condor]

oh w-oled's better for motion clarity? i was excited that the 480hz was woled for entirely different reasons lol

nice

(also on that note yes, it was announced to be W-oled)

[ashen spindle]

why would woled have better clarity?

[summer condor]

i'm curious too.

that's news to me

[strong timber]

what oleds are the LG 4K 240Hz / 480Hz 1080P OLED 32GS95UE Monitor
and
ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP 240hz 4K / 480HZ 1080P OLED

[ashen spindle]

you can just put it in google and find that

and it will tell you its woled

[summer condor]

no idea, i was referring to the upcoming 1440p 480hz w-oled

[uncut wing]

I assume it’s to do with sub-pixel layout and MLA. It seemed to be the consensus of last gen OLEDs.

[ashen spindle]

whats the source of the claim then

[uncut wing]

Pretty sure when most reviewers showed blur buster tests, WOLED seemed to come out on top.

[ashen spindle]

you mean when they mostly looked at screens with different refresh rates?

[uncut wing]

I want to say it was with screens at the same refresh rates, but it’s been almost a year since I properly looked into it. I can imagine higher refresh would make more of a difference than the panel technology though.

[zealous raptor]

what mouse yall recommend for gaming(currently have a superlight just want to see what else is popular)

[crisp granite]

MX Master 3

[halcyon moss]

3S :p

[zenith silo]

Lamzu makes good mice

Been using theirs for a while

Been looking at the darmoshark m2 I think it's called

125 euro magnesium mouse

I believe that's click latency not motion latency

[naive dagger]

What site do u use for latency checker

[zenith silo]

thats from a review on youtube

i just talk to people in discord servers/watch videos of people who can test it

[naive dagger]

what mice has the least click latency

from all mice

[zenith silo]

idk

but it genuinely doesnt matter at this point

most of the top end mice are so close in latency its unnoticeable from a person

for example these 4 mice are all within 0.01ms in click latency

[ionic sparrow]

fwiw, im using a Ninjutso Sora V2 rn and its great

39 grams (40grams with skates on mine)

its just only 1k rn without the new dongle

[uncut wing]

OP1 8K

Which I think was 0.077ms

[old marlin]

measured in what way

cause with ldat that amount is basically measurement tolerance

[uncut wing]

Using XLAT

[cursive summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1767076754500559137?

512bit memory bus

28gbps gddr7

[old marlin]

might be accurate then

[cursive summit]

Not that much higher than gddr6 tbf

Current gddr6 is like what, 20gbps typical on a 320bit bus?

[uncut wing]

Having a quick look was able to find some getting 83us

[old marlin]

I'd trust viscose

with input latency that low and a stdev being not that much lower

both could be accurate

[uncut wing]

I think it’s because they do something special with their custom switch & firmware

[old marlin]

xlat not having scaling on it at all is kinda funny

[old marlin]

yea they got a patented way to read out switch states

which is really quick

[uncut wing]

Yeah, doesn’t require it to bottom out to activate or something

[old marlin]

still does

but they skip some time when the voltage needs to ramp up

[uncut wing]

Ah ok

[pale sigil]

Going to see if I can rma my cooler that broke a year ago, may as well and sell the replacement.

Completely forgot

[rough osprey]

business

[atomic storm]

hi guys do you know how to find '{' in remapping section of wootility\

[reef patrol]

You don't - Because you need to hold a modifier key to do it.

[atomic storm]

so how could i insert it in my layers

[reef patrol]

Two options - Bind it the right way

(A key that would be shift + 8 would become FN1 + Shift + 8)

Or use a DKS keybind that combines two or more keypresses together.

[atomic storm]

okay thank you, out of curiosity wouldn't it be easy to just add it there as like more characters

for future versions

[reef patrol]

Like I said - The keyboard doesn't understand a {

This is all handled entirely by your operating system, based on which language you've selected there.

[ashen spindle]

Yeah that’s handled by your operating system. The closest they could do would be to make presets that are DKS setups like mansens example but that has another set of issues

[spring turtle]

@reef patrol sir question the wooting one tkl does it have rapid trigger ?

[reef patrol]

[umbral heron]

It does, however keys have not 0.1~4.0mm range, but 1.5~3.6mm

[spring turtle]

Lowest is 1.5 thank you

[naive dagger]

Where do i find it

[uncut wing]

Endgame gear

[naive dagger]

its out of stock

how much latency does razer 8k have

[uncut wing]

Yeah, it’s very popular. Might be some other resellers that have them since I know they sent out a new batch last week.

[naive dagger]

when is there a new batch

[uncut wing]

https://www.endgamegear.com/en-gb/gaming-mice/op1-8k?attribute[color]=Black

Having a look the black one is still in stock

As for next white restock, no idea

Think it took about a month for the UK reseller to get more.

[naive dagger]

ah it sold out in my country

[pale sigil]

😘

[halcyon moss]

[hearty magnet]

Hi have a quick question, don't know if this should be in the modding channel, if so let me know, but i bought an epomaker coiled cable for my wooting and i was wondering if this could hurt the performance of the keyboard or not. Probably a dumb question but i just want to make sure if you guys had any idea.

[summer condor]

the only concern is power delivery

it may or may not be able to give enough juice to the keyboard

[hearty magnet]

is there anyway i could check that?

[summer condor]

no idea how to check though

i'm not aware of any drawback to just plugging it in and cranking up the rgb to check, beyond it simply losing power. Don't think it'd harm the keyboard. but i'd wait for someone more knowledgable than me to confirm

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19dQ8czJr6A

[cursive summit]

Fireside?

They literally having barbeque and talking tech?

Cozy

[reef patrol]

No no. They're sitting at the exhaust of an Nvidia based server farm.

[eager lantern]

Wootility 4.6.14 and 4.6.15 are ignoring the user-order of keys when using same trigger points for keys and using some magical pre-determined order instead (scancodes? Something else?) - did anyone else notice this? The results for these two should NOT be identical.

[reef patrol]

Land of the free

[astral haven]

free to screw consumers over lel

[marsh glade]

Been that way for years. Used to be that you could get a discount on your insurance if you let them install a box that would record this. Now they just do it and bill you after lol

[reef patrol]

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle amd below 200, go buy em

[cursive summit]

A bit high

[glass nacelle]

I just had a very weird thing happen on my wooting keeb just now

[cursive summit]

I'd position AMD's value right now around 150

Intel is underselling but idk how many shares do they have out in the wild

Nvidia is just shockingly overpriced, I would not pay more than 300

[glass nacelle]

I was trying to change my profile then the wootility website was bugging out a bit, I unplugged and replugged my keyboard back in and all of my profiles got wiped

[marsh pewter]

did you press save to keyboard?

[glass nacelle]

no I didn't change anything on the profile themselves, just trying to change from one profile to the other

[marsh pewter]

oh

[fickle ore]

this was a few weeks ago

[marsh pewter]

the keyboard always starts in the topmost profile

you just have you change your profile again

[frozen ingot]

reason 34809235787354364 to loathe modern cars

[cursive summit]

Agreed

Nvidia is NOT worth the money they are worth right now

Eventually they will crash hard

I hope for no layoffs since NV is rather profitable

[frozen ingot]

just like apple amirite

[cursive summit]

Nah Apple is valued well

Undervalued

One of the biggest manufacturers of premium products in the world with massive global following

Doesn't matter I hate them, I have to admit they exist for a reason

[marsh pewter]

only apple product thats actually worth it over other options is probably their macbooks

they're great specifically for work

[cursive summit]

I like their watches

I don't know how they compare to specialized watches, like Garmin

But Apple does well with their watches and their high quality components

[astral haven]

hiiiighly depends on the type of work you do lel

[cursive summit]

Not going to buy one, but they are frankly really good

[marsh pewter]

thats fair

[astral haven]

if you have to interface with any equipment that isnt thunderbolt you are gonna have a bad time lel

[marsh pewter]

you could use a usb hub

[cursive summit]

Honestly at this point I'd say that Apple's weakest product is the iPhone

It's just.. a bit shite lol

[astral haven]

and run windows for the drivers

[cursive summit]

Oh wait they have the airpods

Yeah airpods are shittiest, then the iphone

[steep creek]

extremely lmao

[astral haven]

tbh my work would probably be fine on a macbook at this point

just annoys me that they dont have a touchscreen

[frozen ingot]

phone innovation in 2024 in general is a fucking dry wasteland

[cursive summit]

If Apple did gaming properly, I wouldn't mind Mac that much I don't think

[astral haven]

god touchscreens are so excellent

[frozen ingot]

we had the first folds in what, 2021

[astral haven]

iterations on a theme are fine

[frozen ingot]

that's the first real breakthrough for ages and still a pretty dumb product kek

[cursive summit]

Well we are yet to see rollables come out, they are a bit behind the schedule

[steep creek]

i would be fine with it for like 50% of the things i do or around that

[cursive summit]

First rolly rollies should have been out a few years back, but product cancellations, etc

Rollables are foldables, but not shit

Same effect just without a crease

[astral haven]

cell reception i feel is improving gen over gen as is bluetooth
now sure theres no reason to jump each gen any more, but each gen has improvements

[fickle ore]

smartphones have been stagnant for a decade now, Iphone sales are wayy down

[cursive summit]

Oh god I wish I didn't search for "rollable phones in the market 2024", it reminded me of this piece of shit actually existing

https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/IMG_0392.2024-02-27-11_23_30.gif

[steep creek]

yeah i feel for my usage, bluetooth is good enough that i use it on a daily basis

[fickle ore]

folding and whatnot is still very small evolution

[cursive summit]

The lenovo / motorola piece of shit

[steep creek]

the range and battery life i feel are pretty great now

[cursive summit]

Seriously, we need rollables NOW

[astral haven]

same could be said for silicon fabbing tho, yet its still obviously improving and highly critical

[fickle ore]

declining sales speak on behalf of it; not much reasoning to buy 1.5k phone where u can get nearly the same on cheap china brand

[astral haven]

but thats not whats happening

[fickle ore]

They need to find the next best thing

[marsh pewter]

I agree

[fickle ore]

It is actually

[astral haven]

people are buying fewer phones total

[marsh pewter]

rollables are very cool

[fickle ore]

no, market share has improved on other brands vs apple

[cursive summit]

It's the perfection of the foldable idea

Without the drawbacks of foldables

No crease, less annoying to operate, not as thick as folds

[astral haven]

apple loses more because they make better devices that dont get replaced as often

[cursive summit]

Rollables > foldables

We need them in the market stat

https://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/OPPO-x-2021-rollable-screen-phone-designboom-001.gif

I wonder what the durability of the mechanism is like

[fickle ore]

maybe but they price themselves out the market outside of US mostly

I can't think of buying an apple phone and I'm living in one of top 10 economies gdp wise

[astral haven]

sure but top 10 is very different from top 1

and the gdp of the us is massively inflated by credit

much of which is personal

actually incredible

[fickle ore]

Yeah crazy, but even then the median wages post tax are 2 to 2.5 times higher than EU average

US having low income tax helps a bit

[astral haven]

sure but whats the wage post living expenses to cashflow ratio

id argue in the us its probably at least 3x if not 4x

theres a reason stupid stuff sells so well here

yo wtf
whats the assets per citizen of your country?

[fickle ore]

@astral haven that's real purchasing power: 97 for Fin and 120 for US

But do you mean something else?

[astral haven]

actual insanity

[fickle ore]

average per individual is 35.7k € in 2023

fml the US is rich

[astral haven]

no thats net

https://pxdata.stat.fi/PxWeb/pxweb/en/StatFin/StatFin__vtutk/statfin_vtutk_pxt_136l.px/table/tableViewLayout1/
finland reports 260k eur assets

[fickle ore]

uhhuh thats gross meaning debt isnt excluded? or what

[astral haven]

no i specifically excluded net lemme pull up more

[fickle ore]

11.3 k $ savings per household lol

[astral haven]

yup
the us moves mucho money, doesnt keep it

[fickle ore]

tho that isnt prob having 401k's included

wud be cool to see median 401k

[astral haven]

https://www.usdebtclock.org/
you can see all the major stuff here

[marsh pewter]

how does that even work

[cursive summit]

Good question

I have no clue lol

But it does, it's magic, and I love it

Just a far better concept than foldables

[marsh pewter]

fr

foldables are so clunky

and the crease would really bother me

[cursive summit]

Whenever I touch a foldable, I love the size, I hate how chunky they are

They are just so fat

Rollables remove that negative

Crease? Gone

The only negative maybe is that they can't extend to the point that a Fold can?

So you have less screen size?

But it's still just better

[marsh pewter]

hopefully they're more durable too

[cursive summit]

Although

That just looks like Fold size

But yeah it's only the screen and mechanism durability that I have questions with

[marsh pewter]

I would assume the screen is very thin to pull this off

[cursive summit]

Also prolly same plastic shit that folds are made out of

So, absolutely no scratch resistance

[astral haven]

either way smartphones still go beaucaup bucks
https://www.statista.com/statistics/619821/smartphone-sales-revenue-in-the-us/

[fickle ore]

wud be cool if smartwatch would switch shape to handheld on demand with bigger screen like regular smartphone

gimme

[cursive summit]

This piece of shit? https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/QpJ3oXV1reAnq2QyCZl_g8TLEC8nSQjkgF33xyTCzzU/https/techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/IMG_0392.2024-02-27-11_23_30.gif

[marsh pewter]

yeah this is where foldables have an upper hand, at least you have a way of protecting the very delicate screen

[cursive summit]

Go ask Motorola to give one to you

[cursive summit]

Oo, fair point

[marsh pewter]

those viewing angles are rough

[astral haven]

fkn statistica with their projections making me crop the graphs but yea its pretty crazy how money go up and number go down https://www.statista.com/statistics/619811/smartphone-unit-shipments-in-the-us/

[cursive summit]

Foldables have a proper glass outer screen

I doubt it'll be even possible to install a screen protector on a rollable

Huh, durability could be a major issue

[marsh pewter]

yea

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/tsk-pikachu-grumpy-mad-gif-15468882

Now that annoyed me

But maybe they actually made screens of proper rollable glass now lol

[frozen ingot]

I never use screen protectors on my phones

[marsh pewter]

hopefully yea

[marsh pewter]

you madman

[frozen ingot]

there's already glass over the screen, that's the protection

[marsh pewter]

nah you actually need to put some effort into breaking a phone screen, I have no idea how people do it

probably being careless

I've dropped my phone on concrete multiple times and not even a scratch

[cursive summit]

Same and

[cursive summit]

Same

But I do have a screen protector and a case

[marsh pewter]

same

[cursive summit]

I have never in my life broke a phone's screen

Quite proud of it

[fickle ore]

always breaks on contact with hard stone floor tile ;_;

[marsh pewter]

same

idk if this is just my experience, but why are nintendo switch screen protectors so damn easy to break

[cursive summit]

Exactly why I am also not buying an iphone 15

[marsh pewter]

[cursive summit]

Glass backs are so shit

[marsh pewter]

what a joke

you can literally bend the phone a little bit and break glass

[cursive summit]

"you can literally bend the phone a little bit"
Like.. putting it in a back pocket and sitting somewhere

[marsh pewter]

yea

[cursive summit]

I have, admittedly, done that to a phone before and the screen has gotten permanently bent in and would press on a location constantly

Which wasn't fully ruined but quite a nuisance

Iphone it would have just shattered

[frozen ingot]

I've never had this happen and I had one of the infamous bendy iphones

how much of a fatarse do you have to be to bend your phone like a banana with your butt

[marsh pewter]

imagine not realizing you shattered the back of your phone and you grab it just to cut yourself badly

[cursive summit]

It actually wasn't a case of fatarse but small clothes lol

Jeans were so tight that a phone wasn't a good thing to keep there

Add in sitting down, extra tension, and it got fookd

[frozen ingot]

usually its kinda hard to cut yourself on broken phone glass, as someone who's held and used a few

you don't really get much large sharp edges from it

[marsh pewter]

true, but you can get glass stuck in your fingers

[frozen ingot]

it feels awkward as heck touching it tho

[marsh pewter]

oh yeah it feels horrible

[velvet radish]

tempered glass doesnt produce shards

I used a broken iphone 10 for probably 2 years

switched to an iphone 13 pro max and that hasn't broken on me despite not using anything other than a $10 case

[frozen ingot]

took 4 years before I finally got a crack in the glass back on my iphone 11 with no case or screen protector at all

[gusty kiln]

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-8-display-output-3424412/

finally

[fickle ore]

https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1683/intel-releases-continuous-profiler-to-increase-cpu

[cursive summit]

I don't think this does what the headline makes you think

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Continuous-Profiler-OSS

"Intel Continuous Profiler evolved out of gProfiler and aims to be an ideal cloud-native solution for CPU-based profiling. Intel acquired Granulate Cloud Solutions in 2022 to help boost their optimization software efforts. "

It's a tool to.. help with optimizations for specific softwares?

Why's it cloud based

[rough osprey]

apple really wants you to use 3d audio for everything

[eager lantern]

More radical, possibly easier: ABCD should NOT yield the same testing result as DCBA... and yet it does, since the keys are not evaluated top-down when equal, but rather according to something else.

[ashen spindle]

I think it's best if you copy that into #1141096226884956181 I'd say since it will get lost here before anyone will have a chance to really look at that

[eager aurora]

you cant be serious

they release the price for the 80he

a couple days after my 30 day return period for the 60he ends

🥹

[ashen spindle]

price was mostly known before anyway lol

but wrong channel

[pale sigil]

No 7a? 😦

[tight jetty]

Pros and Cons

Wooting 2 HE and Wooting 60

[umbral heron]

Big and small

[tight jetty]

Also which one did you all decide to get

[umbral heron]

Two HE, numpad master race

[tight jetty]

I also ended up going for the Full Size

[umbral heron]

And about the differences - 60HE has more options to mod it; 2HE is a bit slower, but the difference is imperceptible when in Tachyon mode, and you can enable focus mode on 2HE, which will match the latency of 60HE for a part of keys... that's about it

[ashen spindle]

#💻│wootomation

[stable rock]

Thanks, will post there

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/9to5google/status/1767245495762551005?s=46

9to5Google (@9to5Google) on X

Samsung reportedly switching to square screen for Galaxy Watch https://t.co/Rj8Qa597xd by @nexusben

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 5:45 PM

lol

[wheat plume]

Hmm
I like square or rectangular screens for watches more

[ashen spindle]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/MS-March-2024-DX-Compiler neat

[ashen spindle]

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/never-before-seen-linux-malware-gets-installed-using-1-day-exploits/

[rough osprey]

probably more useful

but they look worse imo

an apple watch with pixel watch design would be very cool

[near sedge]

How do you use the analog input that comes with the keyboard? A lot of games aren't recognizing it.

[zenith silo]

The game needs to support xinput/Xbox controllers

And you need to bind the Xbox buttons/binds in wootility

Also make sure in wootility settings it's set to emulate a controller

[near sedge]

Ah alright, thank you

[zenith silo]

Also a lot of games don't support dual input where you can use analog inputs with a mouse at the same time

[near sedge]

I'm not currently seeing an emulate to controller option

Where would that be?

[idle raft]

are there any hall effect tactile/clicky switches available commercially?

[unkempt lake]

No because it defeats the point of an HE switch

It will never happen

Since the actuation point being customizable is well... the whole point of an HE switch

Even if you made a fake bump/click the problem is the moment you change the actuation point it doesn't match the keyboard anymore

[idle raft]

it defeats the purpose of the variable actuation point, but that's not the only advantage that hall effect switches have

I personally don't care for the rapid trigger/variable actuation point, I just like having switches that won't begin to chatter over time

the other advantage that hall effect switches have is the entire lack of a metal contact, which does allow for smoother keystrokes, which again, tactile switches can benefit from

[idle raft]

I don't care for the bump being coordinated with the activation point. I'm currently using holy pandas in a regular keyboard, and they activate after the tactile bump anyway

[unkempt lake]

I mean it doesn't make commercial sense for a company to do when they can just sell you replacement switches

[idle raft]

I mean, same thing goes for linear switches, but here we are

[unkempt lake]

Rapid trigger/analog movement being the selling point

[idle raft]

I mean, rapid trigger/analog input are still usable with a tactile switch

the original wooting keyboard did have the option of tactile switches, just fyi

[unkempt lake]

Wooting one also only ever got a super basic version of the features offered on the 2he/60he

When it comes to rapid trigger

[idle raft]

ok?

those other advantages were still very much there, and the keyboard was successful enough

[unkempt lake]

It also wasn't HE

it was optical

[idle raft]

ya, but it still had the variable actuation, analog input and lack of chatter, which is all I'm looking for

if those features were lost on non-linear switches, they just wouldn't have been sold, no?

it's not like tactile HE switches can't work; I'm well aware that they can be modded, but I'd like to avoid that if I can

[unkempt lake]

I get it it's just i don't expect any companies to make it in the near future

[idle raft]

I'm asking if it exists, not about the logistics of it. If there aren't any commercially available, then can someone direct me to the right type of magnets to use in modding?

[unkempt lake]

Doesn't exist as far as i know, and regarding modding im not aware

@idle raft https://youtu.be/Y0BMkV8P9a4?si=jd4pdaMiZQkcJZIz
Apparently some company named APT once made HE leyboards that were clicky/linear

But they never sold their switches separately and its discountinued

And it doesn't look like they're still around can't find anything about this company

[idle raft]

Yeah, I'm aware of those, but I'm mainly looking for the switches

[fair gull]

i like how they say the report provides indicators of compromise that people can use to determine if they've been targeted but they dont include them

[old marlin]

security is less important than a headline

[fair gull]

i read the report and its only for ivantiy something it seems

some specific vpn tool

[old marlin]

sounds like less of a linux security issue

but just a VPN issue?

which makes it sound like it's just a mitm?

[fair gull]

apparently uses perl scripts and python packages to infect these specific vpn tools

apparently not even software but vpn gateway devices

why wasnt this a default before

lol

[old marlin]

ok that is stupider than expected

[narrow snow]

Guys

Dell g2524h or S2522HG oe acer predator xb253qgw

Which better?

[mild dome]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/podcast-episode/people-scared-screaming-crying-what-happened-to-latam-flight-la800/8gc8kf56f

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-gif-26093316

[narrow snow]

Which of these best option?

[frozen ingot]

rip boeing

you were the best once

not anymore

[latent mural]

you could but you would need an electromagnet

and then you're shooting yourself on the foot

[analog sinew]

but you know the new Management is proud of turning it from emgineer run to a proper profit oriented business

[idle raft]

How is an electromagnet related?

[latent mural]

you can increase resistance by imposing a magnetic field and make the key push on your finger

[idle raft]

...or you can just have a click bar or any other mechanical tactility generation

[latent mural]

ok and how do you dynamically adjust it?

[idle raft]

Who mentioned dynamically adjusting it?

[latent mural]

adjust your actuation distance to 1mm

the tactile bump is at 2mm

[idle raft]

Ok?

I'm really not seeing what your point here is