🔌│tech

[wheat plume]

fair xd

ArcoLinux rc files have so many useful aliases for all types of system management, its pretty fun to look at

and steal some

[raw zephyr]

what is arcolinux

[umbral heron]

Mine is quite smaller

alias ls='exa --color=auto'
alias la='exa --color=auto -aabghHliS'
alias lt='exa --color=auto --tree --long'
alias pac='sudo pacman -Syu'
alias pacr='sudo pacman -Rscn'
alias pacd='pacman -Sii'
alias paca='paru -Syu'
alias sr='ssh ruby@ruby'
alias sw='ssh weiss@weiss'
alias swi='ssh winter@winter'
alias sizeof='du -sh'
export PATH=$PATH:~/.bash_files

fif(){ grep -rwn "$1" -e "$2" }
xch(){ mv "$1" "$1.bakxch" && mv "$2" "$1" && mv "$1.bakxch" "$2"; } 
mksh(){ touch "$1" && chmod +x "$1" && vim "$1"; }
mkcd(){ mkdir "$1" && cd "$1"; }

[wheat plume]

its a custom arch based distro that create and provide their own unique configuration apps and aliases

I used it for years before switching to regular Arch

but I keep using their Tweak Tool and a lot of their shell aliases

the tweak tool they make can be installed on any Arch distro, its the Arch Linux Tweak Tool

[raw zephyr]

those functions seem useful, thanks

[wheat plume]

yay

thefuck works xd

[wheat plume]

ooo imma steal the mkcd

wait how do I add this?

[raw zephyr]

add it to your zshrc

[wheat plume]

🤔

[fair gull]

its missing the end of the string

[raw zephyr]

you use like this mkcd test

[wheat plume]

oh

ayyoo

[balmy vector]

[wheat plume]

how can I make this an alias so it runs when I use regular mkdir?

just alias mkdir=mkcd ?

[umbral heron]

mkdir(){ command mkdir "$1" && cd "$1"; }

[wheat plume]

oo..

[umbral heron]

builtin for shell builtins, command for everything else

[wheat plume]

....yikes wtf

[umbral heron]

Must be something with .zshrc

[wheat plume]

aayy :D I made OMZSH autoupdate

glad to see that is working

the only alias you really need xd

🤔

[umbral heron]

You forgot about command

[wheat plume]

that still didnt work

I just added mkdir=mkcd to my aliases and now it works

[cursive summit]

Imagine you didn't need any of this... oh wait that's Windows

[wheat plume]

I dont have any need for this, but I want this

its nice to autoswap to the new folder when you make it

one command instead of two, faster

[thick elk]

Actually you can do somewhat similar things on windows if you really want to.

[wheat plume]

yeah xd

[umbral heron]

Mate, you have to do Set-Alias in powershell too to do so...

[cursive summit]

Why

[umbral heron]

Because there's no function for this in Windows either

[wheat plume]

can you customise dir command in Windows?

like how ls has a bunch of flags and shit

[umbral heron]

Well, in powershell you have ls too, it runs Get-Children builtin

[wheat plume]

🤔 I see

[umbral heron]

Powershell is basically Bash, Microsofted, 2016

Really great tool to interact with Windows in the same terminal way as on Linux

[thick elk]

I must say that I don't use shell aliasses often myself, usually just dump a shell script in ~/.local/bin to do something

I also don't do that often

[umbral heron]

I try to keep everything in least amount of files possible, so that so when I edit it, it's automatically updated in my gitea instance, from which all computers in my network pull customization files upon reboot

[thick elk]

I am way to lazy to set things up like that, so my systems will have wildly different setups, with different commands for the same thing.

[umbral heron]

My boss kicked me out from work for mandatory 2 week vacation, and I was so bored I reconfigured my whole network and computers
In the long run worth it though

[balmy vector]

Time well spent i say

[wheat plume]

got my .zshrc down to 64 lines

could be smaller if I collapsed the plugins array but no thanks

if I wanted to symlink ~/.zshrc to the one in my dotfiles repo folder, what would I do? is the one in the repo the symlink or the directory in this case?

[umbral heron]

You want the file from your dotfiles repo to act as .zshrc?

[wheat plume]

no, I want the zshrc in the repo to update anytime I make changes to the real .zshrc

so I can just do git add and git push to update the repo

instead of manually copying the new version of zshrc into the repo folder myself

[umbral heron]

Wouldn't it be easier to symlink your git zshrc so that it acts as the "real" one?

[wheat plume]

idk maybe, but idk what order the files go in on the ln command

[umbral heron]

ln -s original_file symlink

[wheat plume]

ln -s ~/.zshrc ~/git/dotfiles/.zshrc ?

[umbral heron]

Yeah, that'd work, however I'm not sure how git reacts to symlinks

[wheat plume]

it didnt like me adding .oh-my.zsh into it either cause thats techincally its own github repo ... wanted me to make a submodule but idk how

[halcyon moss]

STILL the most security issues are memory issues

[halcyon moss]

code golfing your rc files 🤣

its not like you understand what you configured in those files anyway after a year

[wheat plume]

I added comment for stuff I kept in it

[ashen spindle]

speaking of memory issues https://github.com/Speykious/cve-rs

[wheat plume]

and how to get the command to work again if its not preinstalled

[ashen spindle]

@plain axle @rugged pelican please add memory issues into future wooting software with rust

[umbral heron]

Try to do this the other way around - edit your git file, and it will be automatically used in zshrc, that's how I do it with my stuff
ln -s /home/lana/git/dotfiles/.zshrc /home/lana/.zshrc

[halcyon moss]

i used to have a tool that symlinked the dotfiles from a dotfiles dir

so you could keep that dotfiles dir in git.

but most dotfiles i really dont give a shit about. just vim basically.

[wheat plume]

oo

xd

43 lines

[plain axle]

literally just working with unsafe rust 😄

[ashen spindle]

finally, segfaulting keyboards again

[umbral heron]

stow? Great tool

[halcyon moss]

I don't remember

[thick elk]

Oh, yea sidenote of a nice improvement on Plasma 6 powerdevil now seems to have working brightness control using ddcutil using the brightness widget.
Doesn't work per monitor but if they have a similar brightness curve it's a nice quick way to adjust.

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/hwinfo-beta-update-brings-built-in-osd-drops-windows-xp-support nice

[analog sinew]

uuh cool

[ashen spindle]

once thats working in stable hwinfo really is the all around diagnostics tool

[raw zephyr]

make bare repo

https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/dotfiles

[wheat plume]

o..

[silent igloo]

yo fellas

im on am4 and best cpu i can get for this dead platform is 5800x3d. i have 16gb ram rn but im doing a lot of vm shit for school so i wanna get more ram. my middle name is overkill and i am tossing up between getting 2x16gb rn and another set of the same kit in the future for a total of 64gb of 2x32gb and doing the same thing for 128gb LOL

what do yall think

[marsh glade]

5800x3d is better than my CPU 😐

[balmy vector]

[marsh glade]

Also 64gb of ram is plenty for most usecases

[ashen spindle]

get 2x32gb now if you think you can make use of it because 2 sticks is much easier to run than 4

[marsh glade]

Agreed on 2 sticks instead of 4 though

5600x represent 🦾

[steep creek]

5600x is nice, have a few friends who are happy with it

[marsh glade]

I paid too much for it

Thought it would go the way of the GPU at the time of purchase

[reef patrol]

You can buy mine cheaper, and feel like it was a good deal. 😉

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[silent igloo]

real

[cursive summit]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/feb/28/google-chief-ai-tools-photo-diversity-offended-users

Good

[astral haven]

Welp hopefully it's a true windows precision track pad, otherwise this will be a huge waste

[unkempt lake]

Odd laptop stand

[astral haven]

yea that part is dumb, its actually just an overpriced case for the touchpad and keyboard

[unkempt lake]

Why not connect a keyboard and a mouse and an external display

I don't really get who this appeals to

[halcyon moss]

It's a keyboard and mouse

[astral haven]

this is the only windows wireless precision touchpad

they just tacked on some bs to raise the price

[unkempt lake]

Why not use a mouse tho?

Thats what im wondering about

[halcyon moss]

Why not not being a furry

[astral haven]

couch/bed use

[unkempt lake]

I guess that works?

[astral haven]

its this or trackball, and touchpad actually has a ton of features

[unkempt lake]

I ise one of these for couch use

[astral haven]

thats not a precision touchpad tho

and you get far more control and features out of a precision touchpad

[unkempt lake]

I mean i don't use it much

It works for the little use i do

[astral haven]

and i use a wired trackpad currently, works alright, but the cable is inconvenient

[cursive summit]

WHOA https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-limited-oc-of-radeon-rx-7900-gre-is-a-bug-fix-incoming

@ashen spindle thoughts?

Holy shit this can become a must-buy

7900XT-ish performance, basically stock XT - 5-7% for 200-250 cheaper

[ashen spindle]

unlocking sliders doesnt mean the hardware can do it

[cursive summit]

VRAM chips can 100% do it

[ashen spindle]

again, it's still a smaller bus and 4/6 mcds

[cursive summit]

It shares the same chips as the XT

[ashen spindle]

well, not quite

[cursive summit]

You counteract the bus with heavier clock

Get the same bandwidth

Which.. I haven't found answers for online, but should perform the same?

Bandwidth is basically memory speed x bus width, so in theory you can achieve same results by clocking higher?

Not too sure with MCDs, but 80CUs is a fuck ton more than 60 or so on 7800XT

[ashen spindle]

depends, but again, it's worse hardware or maybe equal at best with the memory chips, if you get to similar performance it will be at cranked up powerdraw

[cursive summit]

I kinda doubt cranking the memory chips to where they are supposed to be will raised the TDP by much

GRE consumes less TDP than both 900 and 800XT's, it's really artificially limited

[ashen spindle]

no? TPU has it at like 50w more than the 7800xt

[cursive summit]

If they finally unlock it properly, and you can place where the mem chips are supposed to be, or just do a bit of an OC, it'll perform just shy of a 900XT, at similar TDP

Huh

TPU says they are equal

[ashen spindle]

are you looking at rated tdp or power draw in gaming

[cursive summit]

Thermal Design Power on paper

7800XT - 263 W
GRE - 260W

900XT- 315

[ashen spindle]

yeah im looking at the powerdraw in reality from the gaming tests

so the possible overclock already puts its above the 900xt then

[cursive summit]

Well yeah it seems it's a bit above 800XT

[ashen spindle]

for one thats furmark

but also why not just look at the results from the linked article

[cursive summit]

But it should be compared to 900XT cause it's very much just a gimped 900XT

Linked article?

[ashen spindle]

i forgot you dont read what you link yourself

[cursive summit]

Fuck off sometimes, this article doesn't say anything about effective TDP

Like, GAMING TDP

[ashen spindle]

so click on the review going to TPU which is where they got the oc numbers from

and I said I was using the TPU numbers

[cursive summit]

How's furmark different from normal gaming?

It's a game simulation

[ashen spindle]

no its really not its more like a powervirus

it used to break cards and they have specific stops against it now and they also tried to have it void warranty on nvidias side in the past

but regardless, unless we get someone to test it with no limits we wont know, maybe scaling is nice, maybe it goes even worse

if it reaches parity at 450w it certainly isn't a great deal

[cursive summit]

Memory is typically very power minimal though

[vagrant pagoda]

Furmark is worse case

[cursive summit]

I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure VRAM is energy efficient, so to say

Just putting the sliders to spec with memory chips shouldn't give you more than 10W or so?

[vagrant pagoda]

And Nvidia famously didn't make the vrm strong enough to handle a full load on the GPU, and would overheat in furmark

So they made a driver fix to reduce clocks in furmark

[ashen spindle]

default memory speeds also likely isn't going to do enough without increasing core clocks

[astral haven]

well to be clear thats still the case, now it just automatic and for all gpus

[ashen spindle]

if the cores are slow feeding more memory isnt going to change much

[cursive summit]

Yeah GRE is pretty underclocked too, but I don't bother with that usually

[vagrant pagoda]

You can 100% get furmark level load with good enough programing in a real task

Just super rare

[cursive summit]

Just a raw memory clock should greatly increase perf

[vagrant pagoda]

I thought furmark made a bypass for it

[ashen spindle]

no it shouldn't because if they cut down the sku correctly it's not memory starved

[astral haven]

as much as they can, however ive never seen a gpu hold even half of boost in furmark newer than 900 series

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah that's more power limiting though?

[cursive summit]

Isn't RDNA as an arch a bit memory starved?

[astral haven]

sure, but disable that and the gpus crater

[ashen spindle]

literally the opposite

if it was memory starved we would see the stacked MCD skus that got canned

[cursive summit]

I would have read something wrong then, I read it's like Zen and it loves memory speed

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah that's just all modern silicon

[astral haven]

furmark can blow up gpus if you dont power limit them

same was true with nvidia, nvidias mechanism was just a super stupid patch

back in the 400 series

[vagrant pagoda]

Any load will blow up a GPU with unlimited power XD

[ashen spindle]

zen especially early ones like high speed memory for higher internal clocks mostly

[astral haven]

wrong

most things are actually bandwidth limited somewhere

pcie, memory, draw calls from cpu

[ashen spindle]

but rdna3 has had designs with 1,2,3hi MCDs and none of them made it out because the resulting rdna3 had more than enough memory access

[astral haven]

often there are gpu components in the render path that limit you even beyond these
the furry donut however is optimized for maximum compute complexity, and as it uses incredible amounts of geometry, it also scales compute nearly perfectly with msaa

[cursive summit]

@ashen spindle Best I could find is https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-shrank-navi-31-in-rx-7900-gre, so we don't really know, but it seems 31XL is just a bus width reduced and physically shrunk die

So it should perform and behave similarly to 31XT if OC'd to about same levels as a 900XT

[ashen spindle]

if it gets there stable sure, but if it can and at what power is the question

[cursive summit]

Well TPU did GPU OC testing, for 15% GPU and memory clock it went 15% up in TDP

It does have decent results from OCing though, nowhere near to where the memory chips should be though, more to gain

Not too worried about the core clocks, kinda just wanting to crank the memory bandwidth back to 20gbps or even 22gbps or so

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean raw throughput isn't everything, gre has narrower bus

[cursive summit]

Sure, but you OC the memory higher and it has the same effective bandwidth

Clock differences you can also make up with a moderate OC

At that point how are the 900XT and GRE exactly different? You just lose 2 CUs and 4GBs of VRAM

[vagrant pagoda]

Lasered cus and missing mcd

No memory OC will make up for the missing mcd

Memory latency and bus width matter a lot to a GPU

[cursive summit]

I don't quite get how an MCD is important

It has the same amount of infinity cache

[vagrant pagoda]

Its how the GPU interfaces with memory

[cursive summit]

Same size of MCD apparently

[vagrant pagoda]

It has one less mcd

[cursive summit]

Quin said 2, 4/6

Well, if AMD does remove the limits we can see how well it boosts and at what cost

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah 7800 and gre have 4, 900xt has 5 and xtx has 6

[cursive summit]

I don't believe it can't come close to an XT with a reasonable OC

Those memory chips on GRE are same as XT's, XT runs them at 2500 MHz, GRE at 2250 MHz

[vagrant pagoda]

But then you can still oc a 7900 the same

Yes but the bus is narrower and it has less cache

[cursive summit]

Doesn't really matter

I am not spending 200+ euros more if I can get same results with a 550ish card

[wheat plume]

nitpicking all of Zed's marketing claims LOL https://youtu.be/Fk08oNi0j1Y

[crimson wigeon]

Wake me when it's available for an operating system I use

[wheat plume]

ikr....

same for Arc browser, it looks amazing but its only Mac currently

[fair gull]

no?

its win and mac

[wheat plume]

and since they are too busy trying to make Arc AI, I dont think Arc Browser will be coming to Windows and Linux any time soon

[wheat plume]

the Windows version is technically not released yet, you need an invite last i checked

[fair gull]

yes but it exists

they make it very actively so

[wheat plume]

waitlist

so yeah, not available until who knows how long

[fair gull]

except it is. just ask someone who has arc for mac and they can invite you

takes a day at best to get the mail

[wheat plume]

right, lets test that xd

[fair gull]

thats not an invite

idk if you cant read or dont wanna read

[wheat plume]

so someone who has it already for mac can get the windows build early?

[crimson wigeon]

I'd rather just wait until they let plebes just have it without begging

[fair gull]

they can invite 5 friends via email to arc on windows

idk if it really is just 5

i can check in a sec if i can send more invites

[wheat plume]

if my battery is only charging at 25W...why is my charger not able to maintain charge for my phone and laptop at the same time if both devices are powered on???

[fair gull]

idk what you just asked

[halcyon moss]

I do but your charger might just not be able to

[wheat plume]

its a 65w, the phone charges at 15W max and the laptop apparently is pulling 25W

maybe it cant do both cause the laptop needs 3A

[fair gull]

ok so what should your laptop run on

[wheat plume]

idk

[fair gull]

0w doesnt work for laptop

[halcyon moss]

Aan other reason not to trust multi port chargers :p

[wheat plume]

it works fine for the Steam Deck + Phone + Earbuds

steam deck doesnt need 3A though, that may be the issue here in the laptop's case

[fair gull]

i assume your laptop needs 30-40w to run and then charges with the rest

[wheat plume]

oh maybe

I have fast charge disabled in the BIOS

well, I didnt know it was disabled by default so I never knew I could enable it until recently

😢

vs code problems

[fair gull]

interesting. cant say i ever got vscode to crash

[wheat plume]

does the OSS version support the same extensions and whatnot??

[astral haven]

is there a non oss version?

[wheat plume]

oh, they have an RPM, dont need to use flatpak

[wheat plume]

LOL

I think its like ungoogle-chromium but for VS Code and microsoft

[halcyon moss]

3w? 3a?

[wheat plume]

A

oops my bad

now I got to figure out where to put the Java JDK so VS Code is happy

[thick elk]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/HDMI-2.1-OSS-Rejected
Well that is stupid

[ashen spindle]

hdmi needs to die

[fickle ore]

Yes

[thick elk]

Outside of this, the hdmi connector is also not that good.

[woven laurel]

however everything has it. im fine with it

ok the versions are a bit annoying with hdmi now we get 120hz support

[thick elk]

Eventually more devices will just move to usb-c which really only uses displayport for video.

hdmi over usb-c but will not be updated and nobody ever cared about it.

[fickle ore]

dont really want usbc for monitor

[thick elk]

I agree, the full displayport connector is more secure

but hdmi is not

[fickle ore]

yeah I like DP better for monitor

[smoky frigate]

HDMI forum, brought to you by the dodo consortium

[wheat plume]

....Ive been using Linux for like 7 years or so and I only now learned the difference between >` and >>``

.-.

[wheat plume]

...got to escape ! characters, hmmmm ok

[crimson wigeon]

https://zsh.sourceforge.io/Doc/Release/Expansion.html#History-Expansion

[reef patrol]

Oh snappe. Linus political with that china only PC build video.

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-pooh-bear-winnie-the-pooh-cute-blow-kiss-gif-17530534

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-pirate-this-is-politics-gif-15660465

POLITICS IN MY LINUS VIDEO 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[astral haven]

im really sad they didnt even try that hard for the cpu and gpu, not even running the zhaoxin that im pretty sure they bought, and trying to get a moore threads gpu

[ashen spindle]

yeah that was one boring clickbait

all china *

*normal components with a packaing for china mostly

[reef patrol]

What did you expect? The goal was to find parts you'd buy IN China specifically, not "let's go out of our way to find the weirdest shit possible"

At least it wasn't a repeat of his trio to Shenzhen to build a PC with a guy who does completely different tech.

[ashen spindle]

I mean if you open the video with west vs china and whats going on I would expect using something that comes from that and not something that's just the same gpu with different spray paint

[reef patrol]

That's literally how it is though.

nVidia still makes your GPU in China.

[ashen spindle]

yeah but we also have moore threads as chinese gpus now

so why not use them or even mention them like they did for cpu

[reef patrol]

Scope and time. These videos with China purchases are usually months delayed due to slow or lost shipping.

[ashen spindle]

"we wanted to make this a video to show whats going on over there"
proceeds to use almost nothing that comes from the tensions

[astral haven]

the whole point of the china scare is they have an entire (except for ram for some reason) chinese phone
SOC, storage, screen, minor components and its kinda sorta competitive, and very popular

[reef patrol]

Because...the tensions doesn't affect them in this range.

[astral haven]

the 4090 is now banned

[ashen spindle]

I mean then the title and intro is misleading/clickbaity to the moon

[reef patrol]

It really isn't.

[unkempt lake]

Guys

I know this is tech talk

But look in game talk

I'm angy

[astral haven]

its a us CPU manufactured in israel, and a US gpu manufacturered in taiwan

both are banned from being used in the government of china

moorethreads was reviewed by GN in 2023
zhaoxin was reviewed by GN and LTT 3 years ago

[ashen spindle]

use a loongson cpu so you dont repeat your zhaoxin content, use the MTT S80 gpu and wow you got something unique to show that actually has china relevancy

[wheat plume]

Bruh

THIS WINTER

[astral haven]

are those two compatible?

[ashen spindle]

honestly no clue but that would have been a nice video

worst case have two options

[astral haven]

loong is their own isa

[steep creek]

I got access to it just a couple days ago after being in the waitlist for a month or two

[astral haven]

zhaoxin has updated products since 2021 too

[ashen spindle]

I mean, get both options and see what you can do

[astral haven]

yup

[ashen spindle]

if you cant run it on loongson make it a new video and people would be interessted too

[astral haven]

or heck get the new huawei

[ashen spindle]

we have https://chipsandcheese.com/2023/04/09/loongsons-3a5000-chinas-best-shot/ but that's not content for the LTT viewerbase

[astral haven]

its also not a video

[ashen spindle]

even in video form that wouldn't be digestible for LTT viewerbase

[astral haven]

eh i think ltt could figure something out

a techquickie or something

[ashen spindle]

well yes I'm saying we only have this and LTT could have made something with a loongson cpu, even if it wouldnt fully work with a all china pc as easily

[astral haven]

yep, or they could have gotten one of the newer zhaoxin s

[wheat plume]

be me
Used to despise Chat Heads on FB Messenger
Google clone that feature in Android and call it Bubbles
Actually really like that feature
Use it for any app that supports Bubbles

[astral haven]

wow its almost like different implementations of the same idea are different

[wheat plume]

They are basically the same implementation :')

I think the only app rn that supports them is Google Messages...
;_:

Please app devs, support Bubbles plz

[latent mural]

no😡👎

[quasi kite]

so is wooting the only analog keyboard out there?

[astral haven]

depending on definitions yes or no

[marsh pewter]

no

[astral haven]

it is the only one that emulates a controller without special software

[plain steeple]

OI when is wooting gonna make the fastest analoge mouse

[steady sail]

Never kinda xd

[steady sail]

Idk whats that ( ios user here XD)

[plain steeple]

y not

[steady sail]

Its not in their interest

[plain steeple]

😭

[steady sail]

And u can hardly can get into the mouse space

[plain steeple]

i would use a mouse with switches wooting uses

[rough osprey]

hmm

there are mice with analog switches

not with lekkers tho :/

from my knowledge

[steady sail]

I mean i dont think that u can gain anything with analog switchis in mice anyway

[hasty thunder]

you won't gain anything at all from it

[old marlin]

It's a solution in search of a problem

[wheat plume]

You know Facebook Messenger chat heads?

Bubbles are that but for any app that wants to support it

[steady sail]

I know that and those are not a thing on iOS

[wheat plume]

O... Really??

I guess iOS doesn't allow apps to float above others

[wheat plume]

O

[steady sail]

Hence why i said ios user here

[wheat plume]

Bubbles are basically a text conversation you can keep pinned to your screen and then when you tap the person's profile photo, it opens a window the floats above everything else on the screen so you can see and reply to messages

[steady sail]

I had android phones before i switched to iphone

[wheat plume]

See
Little floating app!

[steady sail]

Even if i get any sms security code its automatically pasted in or its just copied already

[wheat plume]

Yeah.... I'm just showing this text conversation cause I can easily censor any sensitive information xd

You can use the entire app like this

[halcyon moss]

samsung can float any app 😉

[wheat plume]

I know
But I despise Samsung UI
Especially their fuck ugly status bar icons

[reef patrol]

Ughhh.... OnePlus pushed a new UI update.

I hate the new sounds and graphics 😄

[wheat plume]

The control panel looks great

But those icons in the system status bar.....so fucking ugly

They are tiny and look like Android 4

[halcyon moss]

meh, fine with me

tiny is good

[wheat plume]

I like Pixel Android icons

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-no-nope-nah-naw-gif-16159366

[wheat plume]

LOL XD

[halcyon moss]

its better, thats true

[wheat plume]

Finally
No more notification sounds anytime a small server I'm in gets a new message

[umbral heron]

I have only one grudge against One UI
Those fugly default fonts...

[wheat plume]

What is the default font?

[umbral heron]

SamsungOne

There's also Samsung Gothic Bold and Roboto, which... aren't great

And One UI 6 font looks like a knockoff of Product Sans

[wheat plume]

Oh
Roboto is Android default

But Pixel moved to Google Sans afaik

[umbral heron]

Product Sans, yeah

[wheat plume]

.......I'm so low on space

Yikes

One thing I do prefer oneUI for is that their fucking system settings uses AMOLED dark theme

And it's not smeared with the accent color like my screenshot is

[steady sail]

Same xd

[wheat plume]

Bish shush you have lots of room left xd

I have 4gb left

[umbral heron]

[wheat plume]

IM SORRY LOL

Filmy wideo

That ain't a real language bruh

Why are there 3 gesture bars??

[umbral heron]

Back, home, menu

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/directsr-is-not-replacing-existing-upscalers-its-an-api-for-multi-vendor-super-resolution thats nice

[halcyon moss]

buttons are best gestures

[umbral heron]

Wonder how long till it's going to be implemented into VKD3D after release

[ashen spindle]

Depends on how well it works I guess

I assume they saw streamline fail and are now making sure the vendors will actually use this, so good guy Microsoft

Should mean any game using it has all options and we don’t get messes of fsr3 but no dlss3 and half XeSS added

[wheat plume]

..so this replaced the buttons with 3 swipes??

[umbral heron]

Basically, yeah

[final flame]

it's objectively the best way to do gestures, and for whatever reason samsung is the only ones to do it this way afaik

have used them since they were released originally, and have them hidden

[umbral heron]

I love how they still support changing buttons, so that back is on the left

[wheat plume]

The left is the normal spot for it xd

Only Samsung and Xiaomi have it on the right

[final flame]

it objectively makes sense to have it on the right, most people use their phone with the right hand

[halcyon moss]

and thats the best spot

[umbral heron]

I'm still used to how it used to be on old Androids

[wheat plume]

Hehe
This is why I like the gesture navigation
I can go back from any side of the screen

And each side can be edited

[final flame]

except it tends to fail when you're really quick with it
and can be buggy, but just not going to talk about it

apples implementation of it is alright but still has issues, can't imagine the android side being any better

[wheat plume]

What fails?

[old marlin]

Tbh i got 0 complaints about it

With samsung

[wheat plume]

Same on "Pixel"

[old marlin]

With miui it's shit since it is baked into their launcher

[wheat plume]

And really slow animations too

Slower than iOS

[old marlin]

Apple gestures just seem more convoluted than they'd need to be

[wheat plume]

It is cause the back gesture depends on the app itself

Either swipe from the left
Or tap from the top left
Or there is a button on the bottom right

[final flame]

samsung's implementation is finnicky when going to the app tray
you can't be too fast with it, you have to kinda stop mid swipe, it's quicker to just swipe to go to home then swipe again to go to the app tray

[wheat plume]

Hmm

[old marlin]

What

No

[old marlin]

You just have to stop at the end

[fair gull]

@wheat plume just to get back to you since i forgot yesterday: i cant send out any more arc on windows invites.

but you can ask pleasant. i also invited him and he got the email the next day so there was/is a way to get arc on windows easily if you know someone who can invite you

[wheat plume]

Yeh they stopped accepting invite links

[raw zephyr]

what is arc on windows

[fair gull]

its arc browser but on windows

[raw zephyr]

what's so special about the browser that you need an invite link lol

[fair gull]

they just dont wanna be flooded with duplicate bug reports

the reason they expect this is they are the first company to try and port swift UI from macos to windows and linux

[lofty pivot]

they're sending out a lot of beta invites lately too for those who signed up to the beta invite list

[raw zephyr]

interesting

[lofty pivot]

got in yesterday, just been messing around with it today

[wheat plume]

They said the Windows build will be released near Christmas

[raw zephyr]

i think i'm just gonna stick with my ol' trusted firefox

[wheat plume]

And who knows of the Linux build

What engine is Arc on? Chromium?

[raw zephyr]

probably, what isn't chromium nowadays lol

[fair gull]

i really wanted to but i switched to arc and left firefox behind

im mainly in love with how heavily they cut out unnecessary stuff from chromium

[raw zephyr]

i just do arkenfox userjs with some sane overrides and it does the job

[fair gull]

for me a big part of the switch is user experience of browsing

i like the way it does tabs, tab management and such

[raw zephyr]

i keep my max 10 tabs rule

[fair gull]

i did that until arc... cause now my tabs dont use up any ram or screenspace really

[wheat plume]

I cheat by using tab groups..... LOL so I can hide the tabs in the groups when Im not using them

[fair gull]

well arc also has that i guess

with folders

folders can contain tabs or other folders

and ofc everything can be freely renamed

then you have spaces and profiles

profiles is what stores your cookies etc. spaces is just like different windows but all accessible in any window

[wheat plume]

Does Firefox have profiles? I cant seem to find it

[raw zephyr]

about:profiles

[wheat plume]

uh hmm,

[umbral heron]

Also Multi-Account Containers, really useful add-on

[raw zephyr]

about:preferences#containers

no need for an addon

[fair gull]

also spaces can use different profiles. its just really nice cause arc removes the need for addons just to switch around work spaces and website data associated with them

[wheat plume]

oh....what one does Firefox use by default? Personal maybe?

[raw zephyr]

probably none

[umbral heron]

Well, it was an add-on before https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/

[raw zephyr]

you just right click new tab

[fair gull]

this is why i like arcs UX... no button and fold out, no settings page or anything. its right in the ui

also fully customizable ofc

[wheat plume]

Ooohh

[fair gull]

oh and ofc tabs are vertically arranged on the side by default

dont even know if you can change that but its better either way

also love the auto PIP for websites that support it and have a video playing. if i switch tabs it automatically spawns the video as pip and when i go back to the tab the pip window automatically closes

also music player gets put into tab bar as well with full controls

[wheat plume]

Ok that's cool

I like this

[umbral heron]

I dunno, they require an account and all that stuff with invites, reinventing the wheel by porting Swift to Windows, keeping to proprietary license... Doesn't really sit right with me, imma stick to Firefox

[fair gull]

arc in general has a lot of these small but really nice UX things... although as mentioned the way tabs work on arc is the best... i hated it at first due to being on a 13" mbp but ever since going back to my 1080p monitors its the best

[wheat plume]

Why are all these cool apps coming to MacOS first or maybe exclusive to Mac ???

Arc
Zed
Warp Terminal

[fair gull]

they require an account yes but... nothings stored or done with it except verify youre a valid arc user

[raw zephyr]

what is zed and warp terminal lol

now i know what arc is though

[wheat plume]

Zed is a "VS Code killer"

[raw zephyr]

there has been so many of those already

[fair gull]

i personally doubt itll kill vs code

[wheat plume]

It's a code editor that uses the GPU to render itself

So it's mega responsive

[umbral heron]

[wheat plume]

And there is AI and collab stuff

[wheat plume]

Oo

Is already on Linux
Hek

[fair gull]

idk if people even use warp on macos

[wheat plume]

Ayy
RPM package :D

[fair gull]

i just use zsh as its default and starship ontop

[ashen spindle]

tf are people doing that you need to use the gpu to render text

[raw zephyr]

right

[wheat plume]

Zsh is great
I have the best setup rn on it

Oh My ZSH
Powrlevek10k

Few omz plugins too
💜

[wheat plume]

Apparently it decreased the input latency when typing by 13ms compared to vs code LOL

[fair gull]

https://starship.rs/ all you need instead of replacing your terminal

[ashen spindle]

link to those input benchmarks

[fair gull]

having used zed... the thing i hate the most is its too responsive

[ashen spindle]

are they doing them on some dual core notebook or what

[fair gull]

their intellisense like suggestions are... like watching a 750fps video with each frame having different suggestions

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/zf_ooHoBuP0

[fair gull]

cause literally every letter you type can change it immediately without any cooldown

also zed doesnt have port tunneling so rip zed

[umbral heron]

Oh ffs

[wheat plume]

.....

Bruh

[frozen ingot]

cReAtE aN aCcOuNt

[wheat plume]

Fucking online account FOR A TERMINAL????

[fair gull]

its to store settings prob

a very common thing on macos

[frozen ingot]

member local saves

me neither

[wheat plume]

Vs code stores settings on a json file you can install

So you don't need account

[fair gull]

yes but macos apps take the icloud approach

so you can just setup a new macbook and all settings are already there

or mac

[umbral heron]

I could log in with GitHub, that's nice

[ashen spindle]

this doesnt mention any benchmark or comparison?

[wheat plume]

He did a slow motion test at the start to test their input latency claim

Typed a letter to see how fast it appears

Opened it from console in a folder full of code

Etc etc

[ashen spindle]

he just goes over a blogpost for 80% of the video?

[wheat plume]

Hmm
Did I link the wrong one???
One sec

Oh
I did

Here you go

https://youtu.be/Fk08oNi0j1Y

hes running it on M2 Max macbook

Firefox with GNOME UI is great 😍

[ashen spindle]

so it uses gpu to show input faster, still slower than the rendertime though and assuming the 120fps blogpost means they reach 120fps for scrolling etc. works now, that's still slower than VS? what exactly did it kill

[wheat plume]

idk!

I aint the one making these claims LOL

even the collab stuff is worse than VS Code

you got to voice call people in order to edit a document together

.-.

and you can only see what they edited once they are done editing that line

[ashen spindle]

it's also not mega responsive if the scrolling is slower and just 120fps

[umbral heron]

[wheat plume]

the only warp I got LOL

well, not really but I can have them

[umbral heron]

It just doesn't like powerline, but it's a really nice terminal

If I could only make it "drop-down"able like quake/yakuake, it'd perfect

[raw zephyr]

i just use alacritty

[wheat plume]

oh, you cant even use the terminal without making an account first

fml

bye bye Warp

its also ignoring my window button layout :/

[fair gull]

ill need some brain power from some fellow tech wizards. so i put a new wifi card in my gfs PC yesterday and after installing the drivers and cleaning up the old ones i just routinely ran sfc/dism and a chkdsk. during the chkdsk stage 5 the screen went blank and into no signal mode. waiting for when chkdsk should have finished and forcing it off i couldnt get it to show any video output (not even bios) until i unplugged the second monitor. it booted to windows i could plugin the second monitor and it worked fine... until i needed to reboot again. no signal and blank screen. unplugging second monitor didnt work. a lot of unplugging the power cord and power cycling later it somehow showed an output and as before connecting the second monitor after it booted it works fine. gf plays a bit, pc goes to screen saver, no signal and blank screen.

My current suspicion is that the GPU might have died but im not sure. I updated the bios and set the pcie link to x8 just to be safe its not some maxed otu pcie lanes on the cpu. anyone got another clue what this could be?

[ashen spindle]

what gpu

[analog sinew]

have you tried reseating the gpu/ its power?

[umbral heron]

First thing I'd try putting GPU in other PC, to make sure it's the culprit

[raw zephyr]

put it in the oven and bake it

[fair gull]

2070

[fair gull]

got her old gpu handy so i can easily just swap it

[fair gull]

no i wanted to try today during lunch cause it was 1am when i encountered this

list of things to try rn:

1. reseat gpu and its power cables
2. try old gpu
3. try swapping ram slots

[wheat plume]

TIL Chuwi are still using DDR3 ram in their PC tablets.... 🤢

this is their 2023 model

[fair gull]

which is ok?

idk how this is bad

[ashen spindle]

yeah could be pcie connection got loose when moving things, check if it's sagging down but I doubt it, otherwise could be somewhat related to the display engine I guess if it was still spinning fans and didnt show other issues aside from no output

[fair gull]

wouldnt be too bad if the gpu died cause her old one wasnt that much worse

[wheat plume]

https://eu.chuwi.com/products/ubook-x-i5-10210y not too bad for the price maybe?

418 Euro with keyboard + pen

[fair gull]

any tablet pc wont be the next gaming device or such

itll just be a general purpose device so ram speeds are almost irrelevant

[wheat plume]

yeah I know but as a work laptop it could do

[fair gull]

even for work your ram wont influence speed much

[ashen spindle]

the things is with nvidia display engine is that there are often issues from it that are covered by monitor/cables but technically the card is at fault so it's hard to diagnose sometimes

[wheat plume]

I also dont even need much storage either, I am only using 18% of my SSD

[fair gull]

well it worked fine for almost a year which is the odd thing

although she did have 2 BSODs during that time both of which were just page fault in non paged area and i couldnt figure out what would cause it

memtest ran 3 passes no errors etc

[ashen spindle]

did you try removing the wifi card

[fair gull]

not yet

ill put it on the list

although she should have enough lanes to run both

[ashen spindle]

yeah it could just be some signal issue that the card has when the wifi cards active or something

if it's not an obvious problem it can be so many things lol

[fair gull]

yeah thats what im facing.... it can be literally anything at this point

[wheat plume]

I assume this is fanless??
https://eu.chuwi.com/products/ubook-x-i5-10210y?variant=47451225456984

[fair gull]

reseating gpu and its pcie 8pin connectors seems to have fixed it

[ashen spindle]

I envy the people in 2250 or later when ai is finally good enough we could troubleshoot these things instantly and know what caused it

[umbral heron]

Why both Wayland and KDE must be so needlessly complicated?
I just want to switch focus between windows with one command with PID/name of window, that's all

[wheat plume]

You can switch focus with a command???

Huh
I guess I'm not surprised
Everything is a command in Linux.

[fair gull]

tbf i could have done this yesterday/this morning but her pc is in a shitty spot and needs to be disconnected and lifted onto her bed to open it properly

so for me it was more like reconfirming my suspicion rather than troubleshoot

[ashen spindle]

yea but imagine you just put a tricorder or something fancy next to it and it can tell you signal from pcie lane 14 is having interruptions

[fair gull]

that would be... quite mind blowing

idk why no one makes good pcie debug cards... with external power and processing

[umbral heron]

On GNOME/X11 it was as simple as wmctrl -f <app>, that's all
Now I have to play around with custom port of ydotool for KDE
Or I could just swap to GNOME and use quake-mode extension, because all I want to do is either focus an app, or have it in quake-like container, so I can access and minimize it by pressing a button

[wheat plume]

I do like gnome desktop

mainly on a laptop cause of the overview and workspace touchpad gestures

[steady sail]

https://vxtwitter.com/tomshardware/status/1762920979775328423 atleast something nice

[pale panther]

Which cpu is better intel i5 10600kf or intel i5 11400f?

[raw zephyr]

what's cheaper

[pale sigil]

10600k is better in most games but price matters really

@pale panther prices?

[pale panther]

1 sec

[raw zephyr]

i'd get the 11400f, just cuz it's newer and probably a bit cheaper

[ashen spindle]

its just a tiny difference so just get the cheaper one

[pale sigil]

Ye

[pale panther]

10600kf is 122 and the 11400f is 120

Euro

[pale sigil]

Personally I'd get the 10600k because it seems to be better in games most of the time but 11400f has its advantages

Pcie4

[ashen spindle]

10600 the 11th gen doesnt have any benefits that you need

[pale panther]

Yh i was thinking the same thing

[pale sigil]

What GPU?

[pale panther]

10600 is 4.1 ghz

[pale panther]

Not gonna tell you cuz its bad

[ashen spindle]

clockspeeds aren't going to tell the difference between different cpu generations

[pale panther]

Yh

But 10600 is better right?

[ashen spindle]

Tiny bit yes

[pale sigil]

In certain situations no but in most yes

[pale panther]

Alright then

[pale sigil]

Just bare in mind it's a hot boi

[pale panther]

Rtx 3060 or 4060?

[pale sigil]

And you'll need a z board to OC

Which i doubt you will anyway

[ashen spindle]

Not running that hot in games it’s still one of the older gens with sane power limits

[pale panther]

For what?

[pale sigil]

Overclocking

[pale panther]

Oh

Oh to oc i didnt saw that

But should i upgrade my motherboard or not

Is it matter?

[fair gull]

shouldnt praise the day before the evening i guess. screen went blank mid game with her audio being the only thing that remained

[wheat plume]

this is amazing XD

https://github.com/ohmyzsh/ohmyzsh/tree/master/plugins/lol

[steep creek]

If your current motherboard has the same socket type as the cpu you’re thinking about upgrading to then not needed (except if you want to oc or need other features), otherwise yes

lga something

[pale panther]

It has the same socket

But like the performance is gonna be the same with every motherb?

[ashen spindle]

Yeah

[pale sigil]

If it doesn't have RGB guy lose roughly ~10% performance

[pale panther]

Yh thats true😞

Ill guess ill just buy some led lights in the pc so i can push 1000 fps

[pale sigil]

Sounds good

[halcyon moss]

i just realised.. theres 4 star trek series running

[warped inlet]

My friend says rgb light on a keyboard gives delay 💀

[marsh pewter]

they're wrong

sorta

[warped inlet]

They? I know he is fat but

[analog sinew]

what

[marsh pewter]

RGB effects can take up some processing power and add a small amount of delay (see tachyon mode on wooting keyboards), but RGB itself is fine

[warped inlet]

Much delay?

[marsh pewter]

what? you didnt state the gender of your friend, its much easier to just use an ungendered pronoun.

[timber mantle]

Hahaha

[timber mantle]

LuigiThey 🤔

[warped inlet]

I was just joking, thx for the help

[marsh pewter]

tachyon disables RGB effects to prioritize scanning, reducing delay by 1ms

[marsh pewter]

oh all good

np

[hasty thunder]

It?

[timber mantle]

I'm sure that's what's separating homie from peak alpha pro gaming too

[marsh pewter]

true, their friend could be a dog that learned how to speak

you just never know

[marsh pewter]

totally

[timber mantle]

How dare you assume their species. It could be Mr. Ed.

[marsh pewter]

before we jump to conclusions, I was merely giving an example

[timber mantle]

Surely you realize that I'm joking

Unless people actually jump on folk for misspecies'ing

[rough osprey]

imagine lg releases the 480hz oled at the same msrp as the 240hz one

surely that will happen 😄

[marsh pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[pale sigil]

I love screen calling

These robot calls always hang up at "reached is"

I paid more for an SD card back then for my steam deck

[gusty kiln]

Bruh AMD hit new ath on a no news day

Not complaining but definitely a Lil sus

[marsh glade]

Don't worry, some clueless talking head will find some piece of "news" to justify what has already happened

[old marlin]

What

Ah

[ashen spindle]

gradual 5% seems like normal in a day, maybe related to some big buys or just cyclical up down, just happens to be above ATH now ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fickle ore]

noo

5% is massive

[ashen spindle]

some site was upgrading amd from sell to hold I guess but idfk if that matters

[dawn apex]

can you swap switches on a wooting 1 to like a non wooting brand?

[crimson wigeon]

No

[fickle ore]

nope

[marsh glade]

This chart from three weeks ago is still valid :E

Liquidity, always liquidity

[ashen spindle]

no a wooting one is not HE

[dawn apex]

sad 😦

[marsh pewter]

oh mb I missed that part

[fickle ore]

TBH SP500 volatility reminds me of a casino, just like Buffett put it

interesting times

[dawn apex]

will it f with the software or just not work at all?

[marsh pewter]

it'll just not work at all

[ashen spindle]

its a light sensor so a magnet or normal switch just wont do anything

[dawn apex]

ty! 😄

[ashen spindle]

and it still tells me nothing like why is amd up 5% and intel 1% if its just overal market liquidity

[old marlin]

There also are only 2 switches that work in it

Aka only the official ones

[fickle ore]

Think it's just a combination of sentiment, earnings season, and SP500 being a casino. AMD is a hype stock so lots of ppl buying options on it and MM's hedging those bets drives up the price.

[ashen spindle]

idk im not trying to figure out every movement thats more than a percent inter day, could literally just people some automated trade triggering, some big buyer, fuck knows maybe some tools dont deal with leap years and someone bought wrong stock today

[fickle ore]

there was a 2024 bug on some systems lol

bit like y2k

[marsh glade]

Because Intel is dead money walking haha, we've had that conversation before

[ashen spindle]

nvidia not up 5% either

[marsh glade]

Couldn't innovate their way out a paper bag, and certainly not the stock which people are interested in engaging with

This is AMD's chart with respect to liquidity; where there are willing buyers at high price and where there are willing sellers at low prices

The fact that a correlated pair, NVDA, as well as the broader Nasdaq, did not attack buyside liquidity above old highs while AMD did do so is correlated pair divergence which is an indication that there is distribution occurring in AMD that isn't being seen in those other stocks.

[ashen spindle]

distribution occurring in AMD
what do those words mean I can piece together the rest

[marsh glade]

Every buy requires a matching sell, and every sell requires a matching buy. If one is aware of the fact that there are people willing to buy at high prices above old highs, then that means somebody is selling to them. Distribution is when the "other side" of the trade is distributing their long positions by selling to willing buyers above higher prices.

The alternative is accumulation, which occurs when price moves below old lows. Willing sellers at low prices below old lows sell to individuals who are accumulating long positions at a deep discount

[ashen spindle]

so someone with target 190 is selling to someone who thinks its going to hit 200 while currently its at 180?

[marsh glade]

The old high was at 185. Market participants who want to offload their long positions will seek to do so at a premium. The best premium is above old highs, where you can be absolutely sure that there are other market participants who want to buy "strength" or "momentum" or a "breakout"

You'll find, if you look at any old high or any old low on any timeframe that gets traded to and through, that the market alternates between seeking a premium and seeking a discount

So the question that is remaining to be asked is, now that AMD has achieved new highs above old highs, and the market is expected to return to a discount, does that discount get reaccumulated by those who sold at a premium, or are those participants no longer interested in buying that discount.

There are currently relative equal lows for AMD at 172. At this particular moment in time, if there are people who have opened long positions in the last week, they will have a protective stop loss at or around 172. Additionally, should AMD trade to that level, there will be individuals who believe that the market "broke down" or the stock is "weak" and are willing to open new short positions at low prices below 172.

That's not to say that AMD won't go higher still, especially since the Nasdaq is expected to continue to rally. To be clear: I am not making any suggestion or inference that anybody should be engaging with any market at any price.

[ashen spindle]

so I hope something happens and price drops to 172 and then it spirals down and I get it at discount before it goes up again, got it

[marsh glade]

But at this moment in time, it is clear to me on the charts that there are willing sellers at lower prices below 172. There is plenty of opportunity over time for AMD to print new levels of "support" at a higher price, such that market participants who are long move their stop losses up to that new "support" and that should price drop below that future-printed support, that there would be willing sellers to open new short positions below that price.

Every market is at all times and on all timeframes doing one of two things: reaching for liquidity or rebalancing inefficient price delivery.

The former is real easy to spot; buyside liquidity rests above old highs and sellside liquidity rests below old lows.

The later is more nuanced, but one easy-to-spot form of imbalance is when there is a lack of trading at a price range - a liquidity void. An example of this is the closing price of AMD on the 21st of February at 170.99 followed by a gap up to the opening price the following day at 173.44. You'll find that once the market opened on the 22nd, the first thing it did during premarket was to trade down to the previous day's high to offer price inside that imbalance before rocketing higher.

[ashen spindle]

that part makes sense and is easier to understand than the rest lol

[astral haven]

thats because its the only part that didnt immediately contradict itself

[ashen spindle]

idk the rest wasnt really contradicting

[astral haven]

idk if theres a good word besides contradicting for not saying anything without disqualifying it

[wheat plume]

Now playing is useless now..... Can no longer add to a YouTube Music playlist

Ffs Google

[marsh glade]

There's a picture perfect example of this on the one-minute chart on the Nasdaq right now. The news release at 8:30 saw price move in one single direction between the high from 8:29am to the low from 8:31am. Between that, price was not delivered efficiently, only buyside was offered. Therefore, the sellside was inefficiently delivered. Buyside imbalance, sellside inefficiency: BISI

To address this inefficiency, the market traded down into that buyside imbalance so that it could offer sellside delivery. It did so not to a random level, but to a specific, predetermined price: 50% of the range of the BISI.

Once price achieved this discount, the market was free to move higher.

[astral haven]

That an update I haven't received yet?

[wheat plume]

That looks wayyyyy different to what I had
Wtf

[marsh glade]

It is algorithmic perfection such as this that proves to me that the markets are in fact not random, and that "selling pressure" or "buying pressure" have absolutely no bearing on price. Price moved to this level because the algorthim that books price measured the range for the inefficient price delivery, divided it by two, achieved it, and turned around on a dime. Ain't no way that "traders" decided to "stop selling" and "start buying" precisely at that price.

It happens every day, in every market, on every timeframe

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah I bet vast majority of wall street calls are bots by now

[astral haven]

height of waves in the ocean isnt random, but the height of specific waves is not predictable in advance yet
so we treat it as random
in the financial markets, any time that a strategy to predict prices has been discovered, a few people get super rich, a few people lose alot of money, then enough people figure it out that it gets priced in and it no longer works
its nice to be able to retroactively label movements so that people can use them to build strategies, but they are fundamentaly descriptive not prescriptive

[marsh glade]

Isn't it?

You'll find that on the 26th of January, while AMD was trading at 178, I defined and applied the very same logic of premium and discount based on the defined range, to suggest that discount pricing on AMD would be at and below 159.11. Then, a week later, AMD printed its lowest price at at 159.09.

Now, I grant you that one wasn't exactly precise, but within 2 cents is close enough for me.

[cursive summit]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-innovation-on-display-at-gdc-2024/

Huh

So DirectSR is a container of all the upscalers (FSR, DLSS and XeSS) and you tick one box, one of them turns on?

[marsh glade]

You're more than welcome to consider that chance, luck, or coincidence. See that's the beauty of the markets: it is and will always be a single player sport. And the best part is, it's impossible to lie to the markets. You either engage or you don't, and your choices are forever set in stone. The most pure sport imaginable.

[cursive summit]

"Next in the spotlight is our Work Graphs API powered by Shader Model 6.8. Picture a GPU autonomously managing its own work, ushering in a new era of performance and efficiency. This functionality offers developers new tools for approaching GPU workloads in revolutionary ways, and we’re thrilled to have Work Graphs leading the charge. "

How does this even work

It's "AI" GPU scheduling management?

[marsh glade]

For the record: I did not engage with this. I have no interest in trading individual stocks.

[astral haven]

again tho you are describing the market
a bunch of people placed trades, and you predicted how they would execute no?

[marsh glade]

I did not predict how traders executed, I predicted how the algorithm would book price.

You believe that traders executing comes first, and that price is a result of that. I believe the opposite, that price is booked first, and traders make decisions on execution afterwards.

[astral haven]

im thinking about longer timeframes

[marsh glade]

This was two months of price action 😂

But it works on a monthly and a yearly chart too 😉

[astral haven]

fund a places a buy order of x at x price
fund b places a sell order of x at y price
the trading range is where the orders havent stacked up no?
so if a ton of orders have stacked up at specific prices, those orders executing will influence the price to stay at that level for longer

[marsh glade]

Here's the last 50 years of the Nasdaq 100; note the buyside imbalance sellside inefficiency created during 2020. Note how 2022 saw a retracement back into that BISI for almost precisely 50% of that range. The low in 2022 came to 10437.27, which was a mere 77 handles below the discount/premium measure

[astral haven]

how do you know to apply that theory to 2020 and not 2021

and i mean that prior to 2022, not now

[marsh glade]

When the 2021 candle finished printing on the 31st of December, 2021, the existance of the buyside imbalance, sellside inefficiency during the year 2020 was forever set in stone

[wheat plume]

dafuq is this APU??

got some looking up to do

[marsh glade]

This is what that would have looked like on that day

[astral haven]

move the pink bar forward 1 year

or try applying it in 1999

im saying yes it works sometimes, but how do you know to apply it?

[cyan rampart]

Apu is a cpu with igpu

[ashen spindle]

piledriver embedded variant

[wheat plume]

I know that part

Neve heard of this particular one

[astral haven]

amd made alot of bs, often with janky part numbers

[astral haven]

usually not good

[wheat plume]

TRINITY DEVASTATOR

[cyan rampart]

https://www.amd.com/system/files/documents/r-series-product-brief.pdf

[wheat plume]

Such badass name.

[umbral heron]

[cyan rampart]

Nice name

[marsh glade]

A buyside imbalance, sellside ineffiency is just one type of imbalance, for which the rebalancing thereof is just one of the two things the market is doing at any given time.

[astral haven]

i agree, and thats my point

[marsh glade]

Okay, but do you also see how your lack of understanding for the rest of algorithmic theory in the markets, isn't relevant to myself and how I choose to engage with or not engage with the market? See above ⬆️

[astral haven]

if it was about you, it wouldnt be a discussion

[marsh glade]

Oh I misread you're statement as "how do you know to apply it"

As in, me specifically

[astral haven]

royal you

[marsh glade]

The answer in a general sense for how a person would know to apply it is with ten to thirty thousand hours of meticulous study

[astral haven]

that makes sense

but the fact that 10-30k hours of study is able to be predictive is kinda a given

[astral haven]

what im saying is a bisi or sibi is a way for you to communicate about what you have discovered via this

[astral haven]

but something that requires this to apply i wouldnt call predictive, id call it descriptive

[marsh glade]

It is a language that was created to describe what is occurring as the market books price

[astral haven]

yep

[ashen spindle]

at this rate im not sure its going to drop anymore

[gusty kiln]

breh

[marsh glade]

Fortune favors the patient 🙂

[gusty kiln]

I've been holding AMD for like 5 years

[lapis marlin]

i have a dream of a wooting 50HE

[crisp granite]

ok, Mr King

[lapis marlin]

ur ballin

[crisp granite]

keep having your dreams

[lapis marlin]

thanks debil

[wheat plume]

Got this update on my steam deck.......wat

[lapis marlin]

new version dropped

[wheat plume]

o I need to reboot to install this update

hek

[crisp granite]

asshole

[marsh glade]

Oi don't be a dick

[crisp granite]

I just got called debil

that's a not nice word :c

(yes I am aware, and I am completely joking)

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[wheat plume]

.....bruh

[halcyon moss]

Why is that a flatpak

[smoky frigate]

gimp sux

[pale sigil]

A pak that's flat

[wheat plume]

this is what I got after the SteamOS update

[halcyon moss]

Read again

Oh SteamDeck

[wheat plume]

I was about to say this is a pretty recent kernel until I looked to see what my laptop is on and found out its really not that recent

laptop

[wheat plume]

I have seen a more stupid place to put the power button on a laptop

try to press F12 or Del and boom ...shut down time

[marsh pewter]

wtf

why isnt it in the top right corner??

[wheat plume]

IDFK ,-.

reminds me of the time some college software I needed to install didnt want to launch cause my language was set to English (UK) and not English (US)

so I had to install English (US), set it as my default language and reboot to get the software to launch

🤦‍♀️ region locking your software's language

[marsh pewter]

thats wild

[wheat plume]

fucking dumb

[marsh pewter]

for such a small change too??

[wheat plume]

yeah .-.

and since this was Windows, it also decided to fuck with my keyboard layout when I switched to US

.-.

so I had to do the jank workaround of having a keyboard layout that doesnt match the system language Windows requires you to do

[reef patrol]

installing and running most Japanese apps in a nutshell

[wheat plume]

xd

[smoky frigate]

I will never figure out how to get wine to display japan runes

it displays slav, no issues. nipponese though, impossibru

winders 10 fontz are all installed. it just ignores em

[digital cliff]

man needs LC_ALL=C.UTF-8

or any UTF-8 locale

[smoky frigate]

nope. no werk. even putting it into /etc/environment does nothing

maybe wine is looking for a specific ttf

[digital cliff]

ahh unlucky, always worked for me but yeah could be app-specific or so

long as I've had the fonts around and UTF-8 locale it usually werk

[smoky frigate]

YES YES YES YES

[smoky frigate]

the solution was to install ttf-ms-win10-auto-japanese from a third party repo, cachyos

based third parties who do not give a shit about copyright

[digital cliff]

woah

what are you doing anyway

wine-ing a... music player?

[smoky frigate]

foobar2000, I can't get away from it

[digital cliff]

oh... I went to mpd + ncmpcpp when I left for linux and never looked back

[smoky frigate]

I used that in like 2010

tried again last year and nothing has changed lol

[digital cliff]

maybe not

[thick elk]

I just use strawberry it does what it needs to do, I don't complain.

[digital cliff]

but I ask very little of my player

• use tags
• play albums
• shuffle

that's it

no custom playlists, no fancy whatevers

[smoky frigate]

yeah I liked strawberry the most. but I have the 'tism about music players, and must have imprinted on foobar2000 or something

[smoky frigate]

oh man foobar can do it all, except look pretty

[digital cliff]

xD yeah

[smoky frigate]

you can even choose whether to scan between classic ReplayGain and the newer EBU R128 loudness analyzation technique

I found for the noisy shit I listen to, classic just works better

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_Fm7qfRQk

[smoky frigate]

I was thinking more along the lines of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

[reef patrol]

That also works.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/DuNoTQP77gQ

UwU

329 Euro....

47mm

fucking massive watch

maybe too big for my wrists, the freaking Huawei Band 8 looks big on my wrists

[steep creek]

watch ultra is 49mm lol

but i think the circle shape makes it look bigger

[wheat plume]

o.o

IDK why but I hate circular smartwatches

I really like the rectangular shaped ones like the Huawei Bands or Apple Watch

damn this shit got two CPUs inside it

low power mode chip for health tracking and then the other CPU for when you are actively interacting with the UI and apps

[steep creek]

yeah same, for smart watches i prefer square

the text cuts out quite often on circular watches

[wheat plume]

idk how Huawei can afford to make these watches so cheap

60 Euro and there is no lag and all the features that are often locked behind a paywall on more expensive brands are all free on here

and the battery lasts like 3 weeks too

[steep creek]

hm paywall?

[wheat plume]

The sleep tracking is freaking incredibley detailed

[steep creek]

oh right you mean fitbit for pixel watches right

[wheat plume]

yeah and AFAIK you need to pay for some shit on Samsung watches too

[steep creek]

i'd never pay for features on a smartwatch lol

but yea 60 euros sounds nice for the huawei, havent tried it though

[wheat plume]

my watch is on 37% battery rn and I charged it 3 weekends ago

and I have constant hearrate, oxygen enabled and sleep tracking on too at night

I have weather and music controls enabled too

and some of my phone notififications show up on my watch too cause I turned most off

[steep creek]

i charge my ultra every other day, everything is on except for the always on display, and do fitness tracking usually four to five times a week, no where near yours though

which huawei watch is it? you got me a bit curious lol

[wheat plume]

Band 8 :D

comes in a nice variety of colors too

the charging solution isnt the best, you got to carefully line up the way too short cable to the pogo pins on the watch and hope the cable tension doesnt pull it off the watch

[steep creek]

oh wow it really is 60 euros, nice

[wheat plume]

I find taking the watch straps off makes it easier to keep the charger attached

[steep creek]

yea looks cool, at least its square

[wheat plume]

or you can spend 25 euro on a charging stand I found online that can charge and display it

[wheat plume]

did you not believe me? xd

[steep creek]

yea charging stands are nice, can double as a clock for your nightstand at bedtime too

[wheat plume]

oh maybe, enable the AOD

[steep creek]

i did, just things can be pricier here lol

[wheat plume]

fair xd

[steep creek]

it looks a bit long tho, or is that just on the picture perhaps?

[wheat plume]

I love me some good ol' Ball Sports

[wheat plume]

probably the pic,its rectangular not square

so its taller than it is wide

[steep creek]

ah

[wheat plume]

the bezels are chunky....but idc much

[steep creek]

i mean for 60 euros i cant complain much haha

it looks fine

[wheat plume]

or you could check out rhe CMF watch pro

its also roughly 60, 70 Euro

its a sister brand of Nothing

[steep creek]

oh yea i mistook that one for the applew watch before

[wheat plume]

oh btw....this watch is shower proof :')

ive worn it into every shower and bath ive taken since getting it and its perfectly fine

though they dont advertise it beign waterproof

[steep creek]

epic, i have yet to go diving with mine but its gotten plenty of water activities lol

[steep creek]

probably does like oneplus did in the past, water resistant but just didnt bother getting the ip rating

bc i think that would drive up the price a little per unit

[unkempt lake]

I like your watchface

I used to wear my apple watch a lot but idk i don't like wearing it when working from home and i always forget it when i go out

[wheat plume]

thanks :D its one of the most popular free ones on the store

[unkempt lake]

Am i the only one who finds watches annoying when typing on a keyboard

[wheat plume]

good news! you cant reply to notifications anyway on this watch so no keyboard needed

[steep creek]

i do but i just ignore it lol, its less annoying on my moonlander though

i might be asking too much but does the huawei have esim?

[wheat plume]

nu, maybe on their expensive wathes

def not on their band series

[steep creek]

ah

[wheat plume]

my friend got rainbow straps for her band 8 and idk where she got them but I really want them too

[steep creek]

i just have the same orange band my watch came with, find it very comfy haha

kinda worn down now though

[wheat plume]

Workout List

• Outdoor Run
• Indoor Run
• Outdoor Walk
• Indoor Walk
• Indoor Cycle
• Pool Swim
• Jump Rope
• Elliptical
• Rower
• Other
• Custom

[steep creek]

with custom can you do strenght training?

[wheat plume]

oh that does look comfy
the default strap on mine leaves indents on my wrist...its not painful but there is still idents afterwards

[steep creek]

oh yeah i love this one, can sleep with it no issues

[wheat plume]

wait, Custom just lets you rearrange that menu 🤦‍♀️

[fickle ore]

I dont think people have ever been able to predict prices. I have seen no studies about that. The best fund that exists, that is actively trading and generating alpha is the medallion fund. Iirc even them they're right about 50.5% of the time.

[unkempt lake]

I meant it rubbing against the desk/wristrest

XD