jank animations where? havent had that in ages
#šātech
steep creek
astral haven
its still janky for slower computers, happens on my surface pro 4
astral haven
but on faster stuff its speedy
wheat plume
I dont on Windows
reef patrol
Hurr durr look at me. I use multiple, virtual desktops, because I like having 50 tabs open, and this should be reflected in my desktop setup.
steep creek
yeah shouldnt lag on newer hardware
astral haven
Hurr durr look at me. I use multiple, virtual desktops, because I like having 50...
at work i have many different tasks to work on
chromeapps are still apps
thick elk
Virtual desktops / workspaces are nice if you switch between tasks and want to basically say, okay I and one with this, I can close all the crap associated.
steep creek
i use at least 5 apps for studying at the moment, but never had the need to use more than one virtual desktop lol
alt tabbing is sufficient
unkempt lake
8.1 was not bad, people just didn't like change
thick elk
Even with multiple monitors at work it really helps me to not have a million browser windows open at the same time
Windows 8 was garbage, it's UX was most definitely a mistake for laptop and desktop use.
8.1 fixed some things but it certainly was not great by any means.
astral haven
was fine for tablets
unkempt lake
And touch screen convertibles
thick elk
Don't get me wrong, you could fix it with a start menu and such but out of the box for most users it was a definite step down.
astral haven
and touchscreen aios
steep creek
windows 8 was mireable for me, made me switch back to macos
came back to windows with win10
wheat plume
8.1 was not bad, people just didn't like change
TBF, I didnt like it usinf mouse and keyboard
but using it with touchscreen was SOOOOO GOOOD
thick elk
Problem with windows 8 and 8.1 on a tablet / touch screen was at the time most applications were not really well designed for such use.
astral haven
Don't get me wrong, you could fix it with a start menu and such but out of the b...
if you think of it as an update to 7 sure its awful, but if you try to be productive, it was pretty solid IFF you had a touchscreen
thick elk
It was meant to replace windows 7, even if it never reached it's market share
astral haven
It was meant to replace windows 7, even if it never reached it's market share
by getting people to buy computers with touchscreens
which obviously didnt happen, but if it did, youd be good
thick elk
Still kind of sad touchscreens are not more common place on laptops, using a tabletpc with a keyboard on linux, I find having a touch screen quite useful.
Quick tap mixed in, quick swipe up, often much nicer than using the touchpad.
wheat plume
Ive always wanted a Surface...but the proprietary charging port and the expense of them once you factor in the 250 extra for the keyboard...its not great for the price
astral haven
usb c ah yes very proprietary
steep creek
lol
astral haven
so if you buy a replacement psu, get a usb c one?
steep creek
you can still charge it through the usb c port
astral haven
yes
wheat plume
good
I wanna only need to have one charger with multiple ports to bring around instead of a giant charger with a brick along it for my laptop
my current charger can charge my laptop and phone at once and its tiny
astral haven
you can even buy a usb c to magnetic power cable
wheat plume
ooohh
thick elk
On your old laptop, you can probably get an addapter to usb-c, those work quite nicely.
wheat plume
oh, my bad....its not 250 extra for the Surface keyboard
thick elk
But yea I do hope Minisforum succeeds as I do think the form-factor is great.
Personally using a Chuwi UBook X which is not that performant and a bit smaller, but still perfectly fine for my limited laptop use.
wheat plume
its 200 extra .-.
halcyon moss
You lose one of the usbc connectors charging so prepare to bring a dock
steep creek
i know microsoft has deals for students, if that applies to you
thick elk
There are third party keyboards for the surface devices though, don't know how good they are but on the suface they seem like a reasonable option.
astral haven
9+
halcyon moss
4gb lol. That's impossible
thick elk
The cheapest go is pretty bad yea
wheat plume
The cheapest Surface 9 is 1,329
astral haven
what currency is that?
astral haven
that seems strangely high
thick elk
She lives in Ireland prices are somewhat higher there
astral haven
btw the storage is upgradeable with just 1 screw
steep creek
the base surface go 3 here is 1067 usd, i5 with 8gigs and 256 ssd
wheat plume
is there a non Pro Surface 9?
astral haven
no
wheat plume
ah...
astral haven
theres the sq3 which is garbage
wheat plume
q?
wheat plume
o
steep creek
base pro 9 is like 1430 usd
wheat plume
I hope the Minisforum V3 is actually a good price...
and comes with keyboard case like the other Surface competitors
astral haven
its going to be rather expensive
comes with keyboard and pen according to the teaser
wheat plume
hmm...I thought minisforum had decently fair pricing though??
wheat plume
comes with keyboard and pen according to the teaser
ooh.... so take 300 off the price when comparing to the price of a Surface LOL
astral haven
its got usb4, and a mux for the usb c video in
wheat plume
mux?
astral haven
thing that allows video from 2 different sources
wheat plume
oohh
astral haven
its a rather expensive chip
halcyon moss
Mux is that there are hardware lines to display between igpu/dgpu. Otherwise dgpu is routed via igpu, and that's costs frames
wheat plume
oooohhh
astral haven
thats its main use, but not whats going on here
wheat plume
whats it used for here?
halcyon moss
That's cool, keeps it kinda useful when the pc inside isn't
astral haven
its unknown if the touch functionality also gets routed to the usb c port, but if it does, id be very hype
wheat plume
I hope it would!!!!
astral haven
tbh id be shocked if it didnt
wheat plume
Lingong
astral haven
they are changing avx to be variable length with avx10, and in theory that would allow the e cores to run the instructions without the speed boost from having more registers and wider instruction path
reef patrol
Dunno, don't care.
ashen spindle
they are changing avx to be variable length with avx10, and in theory that would...
oh if only avx10 was that nice
astral haven
hey they could make it work
heck they could make any processor avx512 with microcode it would just be incredibly slow
ashen spindle
well you see, no, becuase it's already starting to be a mess in the spec itself and HPC people are already mad at intel for not makin 10 as clean as it was first shown lol
astral haven
They could make it work on the processor side
It just would be a bad look because it would be avx512 slower than avx2
ashen spindle
looks like R2 is a patent troll company
also why can none of these articles ever link to court decision in these cases jfc
reports about lawsuits are always a mess
halcyon moss
Who cares. It's dependencies. Install and uninstall when done
That's what package managers are for
halcyon moss
Just uninstall r studio
And the orphaned packages should go as well
At least.. That's how a sane one would do it
wheat plume
forgot what the package name is .-.
halcyon moss
Anyway... You're doing r now?
wheat plume
aha
cursive summit
Why are you doing R
timber mantle
Perhaps she's a pirate
halcyon moss
R is for statistics and data visualization
cursive summit
I am aware since I had to do R once upon a time
RStudio was pretty interesting to work with
But, why
halcyon moss
Soon we'll hear, wtf arrays start at 1 in r?
ashen spindle
nono, you skipped the part about the complaints about the UI of r studio
halcyon moss
It doesn't follow my obscure and barely working KDE theme!
halcyon moss
nono, you skipped the part about the complaints about the UI of r studio
Of she manages to get it to install at all on arch :p
cursive summit
I had a native build of Rstudio via whatever package manager it uses on Mint
Linux was such a pain to use
halcyon moss
I daily drive it for more than 20 years
halcyon moss
Let's just say that I don't miss manually configuring my x11
wheat plume
never once had to do that other than for screen tearing issues in plasma ...
halcyon moss
It also isn't 20years ago now is it?
wheat plume
fair
wait...plasma supported VRR since 2 years?!
damnnnnn GG plasma
Meanwhile, Gnome devs arent pushing it for Gnome 46 cause they cant settle on a UI design to add the settings into the desktop
š¤¦āāļø
even though the feature works
ashen spindle
and that's why linux isnt for gaming yet 
wheat plume
wheat plume
and that's why linux isnt for gaming yet <:dogekek:1134256020156317706>
use plasma desktop, that has VRR apparently
ashen spindle
vrr, hdr, high fps etc. limits it to soo few options still
analog sinew
Meanwhile, Gnome devs arent pushing it for Gnome 46 cause they cant settle on a ...
wat
ashen spindle
does hdr work properly though? I remember seeing it getting added last year but wasnt fully working yet or often wrong
nimble canopy
does hdr work properly though? I remember seeing it getting added last year but ...
its a bit jank
you have to run the games trough gamescope wich comes with some problems
i dont think proper HDR will happen unil wine wayland works and implements the wayland protocols which are unofficial and still need to merged
fickle ore
daily reminder Nokia is best
True but also lots of countries back then didnt have the infra or $$ for phones
the phone markeshare was definitely smaller than these days
yea
that makes perfect sense why mobile games are so big
cinder tinsel
recommendations of good budget microphones on amazon?
i mean not for music
just like for talking
idk mb streaming
social media things like that
frozen ingot
weird how the 3210 was made in much larger numbers and was just as durable as 3310 but somehow didn't achieve the same cult status
empty wren
And they have time limiters too
astral haven
just like for talking
the recommendation doesnt really change, i personally prefer the 2100x to the 2005usb tho
and the samson go is also fantastic
frozen ingot
in the US it was, relatively uncommon in europe
I had one around 2006
people heard about it but not that many had seen it so got a few looks 
95% of people here in the nordics went with either nokia or ericsson until they both kinda went belly up with the invention of the "iphone"-style smartphone
well ericsson was swedish but nokia was still hipper among swedish youth
ericsson didn't really have a foothold in the hip market until the T28/T10 etc
before that ericsson phones be like
man I wanted one of those so bad at the time lol
kek yeah I had a T300? I think
with the camera attachment
worst camera in the history of man
yep t300
literally a bar of soap
good times, worse tech
truly atrocious
but it was also like the first ever phone camera iirc
steep creek
mild dome
In true Apple fashion. A multihundred dollar accessory practically required for a multi-thousand dollar product that for most other manufacturers add on for free and for replacements only charge 1/10th
astral haven
well to be fair it has a pretty large speaker, and is going to be an insanely low volume device
dim light
well, itās a custom made product just for devsā¦
astral haven
In true Apple fashion. A multihundred dollar accessory practically required for ...
nah, you cant even buy it, its for people with developer accounts only
dim light
which is for basically a purchasable prototype that cost 12x the strap :D
mild dome
nah, you cant even buy it, its for people with developer accounts only
Most other headsets can connect to any computer at your own leisure requiring no dev accounts
astral haven
but most other headsets also require it
dim light
yeah but itās a not a vr headset
astral haven
yeah but itās a not a vr headset
hogwash
dim light
itās a spacial something something
mild dome
The USB-C port could have been included on the display itself like other headsets. Could have had a high-speed uplink with DP like other headsets. Could have had flexibility like other headsets
dim light
it only works with iphones and macbooks and canāt do pc vr
if youāre into vr thatās just not a device you should buy
mild dome
but most other headsets also require it
Isn't Facebook's one also able to operate standalone or hooked up to a PC?
For like 1/5th the price
dim light
but what would you hook it up to? it canāt do pc vr
astral haven
^
dim light
like itās not a āvr headsetā
astral haven
it very much is
dim light
itās a $3500 prototype of a spacial display more or less
astral haven
just locked down so the only vr apps you can run are apple ones
dim light
itās its own thing, i think
mild dome
That's my complaint, the Apple VR headset could have had full capability like other headsets. Apple could have added it on for not much extra cost/weight since it's already got a whole ass computer.
They chose not to because it would cut into their future plans to charge a gorbillion dollars for everything a real VR headset does
astral haven
nah
they dont want it to do serious games at all
they want it to be an ar headset, it just isnt
its very much vr still
ashen spindle
its like most first gen apple products a dev kit for what the future product should be like
mild dome
It could've done both
astral haven
potentially
but its not that easy
and it would get absolutely trashed
it is very much not a great experience if you move too quickly
mild dome
The only issue with it doing both is that the headset isn't well secured to the head, which could've been fixed with a better headband
dim light
they want it to be an ar headset, it just isnt
you just said itās a vr headset disagreeing with me lol
mild dome
What's wrong, low framerate or loose headband?
dim light
i tried it, its a vr headset
^
mild dome
Wait but it uses OLED, how did they fuck it up?
astral haven
you just said itās a vr headset disagreeing with me lol
reread the statement you quoted
astral haven
Wait but it uses OLED, how did they fuck it up?
oled is much higher persistence for vr usage
astral haven
the index is .02ms of blur
the quest 2 and 3 are also .02ms of blur
the vision pro is probably closer to 2ms
dim light
itās $3500, no point in buying it or even taking it serious
mild dome
Thing is people are buying it and heaping praise on it.
Since we start hearing about it constantly we start complaining about all the things it does wrong, and why it shouldn't be praised
astral haven
well yea
it made me sick after less than half an hour of sitting down
its definetly the best vr headset pretending to be an ar headset that is also self contained
and the eye tracking is very solid too
alyx on the vision pro would be very nice probably
the hand tracking would need to get better as would computers
the problem is that its nowhere near powerful enough
the quest has 1/4 the pixels
dim light
ehā¦ if you really want one, they found a hole in the OS so a jailbreak might comeā¦ and then maybe pc vr ;)
crisp granite
Of course it is
Iām just glad itās also on PCVR
Because I love what meta is doingā¦as a shareholder
astral haven
like sure the m2 is faster than the xr2g2
but its not 4x faster
dim light
but it got metal
crisp granite
Because I love what meta is doingā¦as a shareholder
I never want to be a customer product of meta
timber mantle
VR is the 3D TV of the 20s
astral haven
but it got metal
yea but the xr2g2 has vulkan
timber mantle
Give me a holodeck or fuck off
ashen spindle
metal isnt making the same shader code run any faster
crisp granite
I hope the shambler feels super cool to reload
astral haven
metal isnt making the same shader code run any faster
actually its making it run slower in theory, since its less efficient than vulkan
crisp granite
Manually snapping in each shell, cycling it to ensure itās topped up
Basically like the shotgun in alyx tbh
wheat plume
wat
Gnome devs have a merge request for VRR but they are debating among themselves how best to add it to the settings UI .-.
crisp granite
@ashen spindle
Deckard copium?
Gonna nag you for some every time the new metro gets mentioned
astral haven
samsung google partnership probably coming sooner :/
ashen spindle
lmao nothing new, bradley is only using his vision pro atm and nothing big in steam sourcode happening
crisp granite
I do not want my first VR gaming experience to be on the 3500 dollar chastity belt
ashen spindle
seriously, make a meta account with no info, get a quest 3 and enjoy it for much better value
crisp granite
Iām secretly super paranoid about that
Would rather just have a pure PCVR headset
ashen spindle
if you ever used alexa or siri or whatever they got more info than any vr headset would ever get from you
crisp granite
if you ever used alexa or siri or whatever they got more info than any vr headse...
Neither
I have thumbs
ashen spindle
never been in the same room as someone using it so it picked up your voice?
crisp granite
not that I recall
I donāt talk much in public, nor do I visit others with smart devices
ashen spindle
even if it's just someone who have it enabled on their phone in their pocked and it picked you up talking that's more likely than a quest sending any valueable info that it takes from you
astral haven
and you can always just turn off internet access to the quest in your router
crisp granite
ā¦fine
astral haven
it also afaik can be manually firmware updated via a pc?
crisp granite
Iāll get a quest 3 and tamp down EVERYTHING
astral haven
if you can wait, theres definetly gonna be more headsets
crisp granite
I can
astral haven
so no reason to get it until the game is out that you want to play
crisp granite
so no reason to get it until the game is out that you want to play
Iāve got all the time in the world
I got a backlog of VR games and wonāt have a lot of time or space to enjoy them for years
Hence waiting for deckard
ashen spindle
yeah if you want to wait for unspecified time there will be something better, but out of all the options currently available I can only recommend the quest 3 due to price and all
crisp granite
yeah if you want to wait for unspecified time there will be something better, bu...
I can understand the price thing
bleh
hopefully that one can run metro redux at 60FPS 720p
ashen spindle
also aside from price, anything more expensive isn't even better really, index knuckles are nice but I'd rather have the quest3 screens because it has less lense flare
crisp granite
Even after the OLED model?
astral haven
also aside from price, anything more expensive isn't even better really, index k...
bigscreen?
crisp granite
bigscreen?
Thatās my backup āmoney is no object and I can theoretically use it well into the 2030sā headset
ashen spindle
yeah bigscreen I guess, but idk if that even ships to the eu?
also not something you're getting anytime soon even if you order now
astral haven
i do very much think that the vision pro competitors from the android phone makers will be very interesting
ashen spindle
hopefully, competition is always nice, but thats just not a current product
unkempt lake
if you ever used alexa or siri or whatever they got more info than any vr headse...
It's true, I gather lots of info on @crisp granite she just doesn't realize it
She talks to me daily, I spy on her
timber mantle
Can confirm
crisp granite
It's true, I gather lots of info on <@449275309909344266> she just doesn't reali...
Youāre a different kind of Alexa, somehow more intelligent
somehow
astral haven
youtube vr apps have been rather good so far, probably waiting for users before putting in the effort
and they did confirm they are now looking to make it
unkempt lake
Youāre a different kind of Alexa, somehow more intelligent
Did you just compliment me holy shit
astral haven
they probably wanted to have it exclusive on their headset
steep creek
I think youtube said earlier this week that a Vision Pro app is on the roadmap
timber mantle
Restarted?
astral haven
yea, it wasnt on the roadmap this time last week tho lol
crisp granite
Restarted?
A really rude and ableist word of similar ish spelling
steep creek
Yea true kinda strange it wasnāt available from the get go
crisp granite
That Iād probably get in shit for writing out
timber mantle
Oh
reef patrol
Some might say that trying to scoot around saying still counts.
timber mantle
So something millennials grew up saying.
crisp granite
So something millennials grew up saying.
everything is a naughty word now
timber mantle
everything is a naughty word now
Don't I know it, toots
steep creek
lol
astral haven
everything is a naughty word now
you mean e* * * * * * ing
timber mantle
you mean e* * * * * * ing
Reported
reef patrol
It's time. Time to move on.
steep creek
Afaik that apollo reddit client developer made a YouTube client already for vision pro, itās out on the appstore
Juno think itās called
timber mantle
Anders, were you the one who got upset at the description of a meme awhile back?
steep creek
FAANG company gets beaten by an indie dev š
timber mantle
Not the meme itself but a description
timber mantle
Stop rabble rousing, Debs
astral haven
Afaik that apollo reddit client developer made a YouTube client already for visi...
sure but #1 its $5 and #2 it probably doesnt support all the different vr formats youtube uses
timber mantle
The fuck is rabble anyway? Is that ableist?
steep creek
sure but #1 its $5 and #2 it probably doesnt support all the different vr format...
Aha I assumed it was free but with some paywalled features
astral haven
maybe it has a free version, but last i checked thats the story
steep creek
Youāre right it does cost around 5 usd
crisp granite
The fuck is rabble anyway? Is that ableist?
I donāt believe so, just a bit rude
An insult towards and of the character of mention
ashen spindle
I think the point to move past that topic has been made š
timber mantle
Anything is an insult if you're sensitive enough
crisp granite
Anything is a <blank> if youāre <blank> enough
crisp granite
š«¢
steep creek
Infuse is great
timber mantle
DASHI, NO
unkempt lake
Especially when it was also clearly a joke from deb
timber mantle
I remember it well into the 00s...
unkempt lake
If anyone should be insulted it should be me since she called me that
But i understand its a joke
ashen spindle
I don't think that's as much of an issue as just going on with a topic that isn't channel relevant and was asked to be moved along..
reef patrol
Alright - Since it apparently wasn't ABUNDANTLY clear, do not use that language here, do not try and scoot around it or use slang for it.
Or you're going to enjoy a trip to the lawn to touch some leaves.
timber mantle
Which one?
misty saffron
leaves? what are you, australian?
timber mantle
Alright - Since it apparently wasn't ABUNDANTLY clear, do not use that language ...
If you have leaves on your lawn then it's probably time to rake, Anders
unkempt lake
Alright - Since it apparently wasn't ABUNDANTLY clear, do not use that language ...
But there's only snow outside
astral haven
i do hope that someone absolutely goes for it with a headset, and makes a 100+ degree fov 80ppd headset
shame that requires hundreds of millions of pixels
timber mantle
You're already camouflaged
misty saffron
i wish there was any grass to touch :(
timber mantle
Except for your adorable black nose
timber mantle
i wish there was any grass to touch :(
I spotted Dash!
steep creek
I just want a decent vr headset that I can use without getting dizzy and nauseous, maybe Iām overly sensitive to the tech for now
astral haven
I just want a decent vr headset that I can use without getting dizzy and nauseo...
index
needs a strong pc tho
timber mantle
What does knitting have to do with lawn care?
astral haven
and the vision pro is probably a fantastic demo to try out when it comes to your region
misty saffron
What does knitting have to do with lawn care?
both are boomer activities
steep creek
I think my computer should be fine maybe not at the highest settings but, doable
Oh yeah Iām excited to demo that when itās available
astral haven
youve gotta be real careful, depending on your level of sensitivity to the vr effects, the pc can make a pretty serious difference
timber mantle
I don't see how you're going to make a half decent tea cozie with those giant needles
steep creek
I see. I think I should start of with some light media consumption perhaps using it standalone
astral haven
index cant standalone
steep creek
Friend of mine told me he got dizzy at the beginning, but built up tolerance apparently, he has the quest 3
steep creek
index cant standalone
Neat
unkempt lake
astral haven
ive only gotten nausea in the index when i was playing boneworks
the performance was so awful on launch holy smokes
ashen spindle
yeah boneworks is heavy even for people who are used to vr
fervent locust
is there a way to lock out the windows key?
astral haven
never had a chance to try a quest, but i cannot imagine that its fast enough to run serious games without some lag
timber mantle
Does McDonald's even offer the spicy ones anymore?
unkempt lake
Does McDonald's even offer the spicy ones anymore?
Idk i don't go to mcdonalds much
ashen spindle
never had a chance to try a quest, but i cannot imagine that its fast enough to ...
is there a free game on quest you want me to test for that?
steep creek
Iāve never tried an index before but did a demo of the quest 3, dizziness aside I must say it wasnāt bad
unkempt lake
It was fine i guess
steep creek
Display was sharp and felt comfortable
astral haven
is there a free game on quest you want me to test for that?
the problem is its highly personal
unkempt lake
Hadnt been to mcdonalds in months
Mcdonalds is just meh as a whole
If i want a burger i go to a local place
ashen spindle
the problem is its highly personal
I mean I can put on a debug overlay and see if it ever dips in framerate or how high the cpu/gpu usage is so personal feeling is ignored
astral haven
i have a friend who if they stand up in the index they get sick, every other headset they cant even look at
i was good on cv1 but it was very blurry
unkempt lake
I'd rather get something good tbh
astral haven
I mean I can put on a debug overlay and see if it ever dips in framerate or how ...
yea but its not like its a specific fps that causes me issues
unkempt lake
Mcdonalds is fucking expensive for what you get
astral haven
i was doing fine at 45 reprojected in bonelab, but boneworks just killed me
astral haven
and boneworks was running at 60+ usually
ashen spindle
sure but still can give you a reference for how well the quest does a game you'd consider serious
unkempt lake
The mcgriddle is the only thing i actually enjoy from mcdonalds but i always wake up too late
Xd
astral haven
sure but still can give you a reference for how well the quest does a game you'd...
have you gotten sick before in any scenario?
steep creek
Flight sim in vr sounds pretty fun to me
ashen spindle
dont think I ever got sick but also never forced myself through when I didnt enjoy it
boneworks was a bit annoying
astral haven
i mean i stopped when i started having issues
ashen spindle
but didnt play it for a long time but rather pieces
astral haven
i kinda want to try psvr2, but i dont want to buy a ps5 or ps games
steep creek
Oh yeah they are very cool, but I feel you need a very powerful computer to run it well haha
I actually never got to play much dcs, maybe i should install it again
I checked out a video on it just now and graphics looked pretty good, better than I anticipated
Kinda reminds me of p3d in a way
Yeah Iām definitely installing dcs in the weekend, this is slick
Very cool f-4e expansion
Thatās nice, leaves more time for attention to detail
Now Iām excited for the weekend to come quick š
Anyways cheers for sharing this V, I have a class to wake up to lol
chrome shard
any of yall want to support me stream if i drop a link for you guys to watch it?
crisp granite
The mcgriddle is the only thing i actually enjoy from mcdonalds but i always wak...
this
micky deez only makes one good thing
and that's breakfast
I usually just get a mcmuffin
no sausage or bacon
but definitely lettuce and tomato
also no cheese
I've been told that's hella weird
iced coffee is also pretty decent
idk why but that always hits the spot at 2am
it's not great
but it's cheap and it's better than timmies
tbh the only coffee I've had that's worse than timmies is dunkin
either that or it's just really bad in New Jersey specifically
right, you yanks insist on donuts with your coffee
here we just insist on putting shitloads of sugar in our coffee
skip the effort of chewing
unkempt lake
Coffee tastes bad
unkempt lake
I hate coffee
crisp granite
so rich and smooth
crisp granite
some are less scary than others
unkempt lake
Seafood
unkempt lake
Is this a simulation?
unkempt lake
you would not survive the real world
I did tho
Before nico got his ass here
I lived alone
unkempt lake
...so the cats don't count
I had to provide for the cat
It shows i can survive
I lived with a dependent
Government should give me money to feed her
crisp granite
cats aren't dependents
they are lords and ladies of the household
you are a serf
go feed the local ruler and hope they don't claw you in your sleep
cats are the greatest
unkempt lake
go feed the local ruler and hope they don't claw you in your sleep
She never does
She loves me
She says im a good mom
crisp granite
anyway
tech stuff
unkempt lake
anyway
tech stuff
Yes
timber mantle
Jesus
true quest
analog sinew
you are expecting too much
unkempt lake
umbral heron
Fuck it
Module can wait, time to get a new phone
This piece of junk Motorola tried to update itself 3 times in last 2 days, and every single attempt ended with bootloop
pale sigil
Seems wise
God damn it I didn't avoid Chinese new year lol
Have to wait 15 days for items to be dispatched
reef patrol
umbral heron
I barely got in time with my package
cursive summit
I hope Singapore doesn't celebrate chinese new year cause my package is stuck in transit
pale sigil
I didn't realize places closed a week before Chinese new year haha
Luckily it's nothing super important.
cursive summit
Tbf at least chinese peeps can have 2 weeks off
They are usually super overworked
pale sigil
Filament/magnets/light sensors
pale sigil
Tbf at least chinese peeps can have 2 weeks off
Yes that's why I don't really get mad or anything.
I ordered a keyboard once years ago, it got to customs and was stuck for two weeks, that was fun xd
halcyon moss
Fuck it
Module can wait, time to get a new phone
This piece of junk Motorola tri...
what will it be.. what will it be
umbral heron
I'm thinking Galaxy M34, there's a nice discount for it right now, and it's basically a refresh of M21 which I had for nearly 4 years, until I switched to my mum's moto g52 3 weeks ago
But if not for that I need some certain apps I'd go with Nokia 2780
raw zephyr
i wanted to get a pixel phone just to try out grapheneos? don't you run graphene @prisma crag ?
pale sigil
Why not 7a
halcyon moss
5g is not a huge upgrade
old marlin
5g is not a huge upgrade
I mean in pure numbers it is a big upgrade
but depending on where you live it can be entirely useless
with either no or overloaded cells
umbral heron
I barely get 3G at my place 
halcyon burrow
analog sinew
kaspersky is the trojan
cursive summit
reef patrol
Bullshit. The Vision Pro doesn't work while you're driving in the first place.
balmy vector
cursive summit
I hope after turning off the power the user also charged off the residual energy
fair gull
https://www.rxddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1alsh5j/pc_dont_see_my_ssd_is_my_...
wait thats now how you connect it?
reminds me of a customer at my old work that connected 2 hdds together with a sata cable and complained it doesnt work
reef patrol
Should be possible, since it has the travel mode - for sitting still on a moving object (meaning planes mostly)
The trouble with cars, is that you constantly turn your head... also information overload (You'd get fined or arrested for using that shit as the driver)
steady tartan
kaspersky is the trojan
I remember downloading Kaspersky pro version from piratebay as a kid
And getting virus with it
cursive summit
I remember downloading Kaspersky pro version from piratebay as a kid
Pirating antivirus seems quite ironic
cursive summit
I don't see why you wouldn't have one
pale sigil
Fuck Malwarebytes
cursive summit
I use Kaspersky but that's just cause of damage remediation and resetting files
steady tartan
I don't see why you wouldn't have one
Well since i cant turn off windows defender completely
You can count it as one?
I turned off as much of its functions as possible
steady tartan
But its still scanning my PC automatically
cursive summit
There's a particular endpoint version of Defender that's supposedly insanely good
But I just prefer conventional AVs and Kaspersky fits my need well
Good scanning capabilities, and if I mess up somewhere it has strong malware damage remediation abilities
umbral heron
No AV
In the world of constant updates anti-viruses are practically useless
Even if file has virus it won't be able to do shit on modern systems
And zero-days AV won't detect either
cursive summit
No AV <:duck_sip:1103326776308019362>
In the world of constant updates anti-vir...
Well tbf
I ignore windows updates
And my bios version is prolly ancient
umbral heron
Still, Pleasant is right
Think twice before launching something from Internet and you'll be fine
steady tartan
Still, Pleasant is right
Think twice before launching something from Internet an...
I understood it long time ago, since i dont click on things I shouldnt in the first place
And uBlock blocks all of the dogshit
My PC perfomance doesnt get hurt from AntiVirus nor do my system from viruses
Double win
violet hemlock
Anyone got any clue why the RGB for my 'T' key only works with Blue? Any other colour the RGB just turns off on the key.
reef patrol
Anyone got any clue why the RGB for my 'T' key only works with Blue? Any other c...
Do you have any other RGB controlling apps running at all?
What happens if you use the rainbow or similar effect, which change the colours?
violet hemlock
Do you have any other RGB controlling apps running at all?
What happens if you u...
No RGB controlling apps are downloaded, using the Wooting web app & if I use the rainbow preset the T key is still displaying as a navy blue rather than the green it should be
reef patrol
So it just fades away from Blue, when it's supposed to to the other colours?
violet hemlock
So it just fades away from Blue, when it's supposed to to the other colours?
Yeah, any other colours are selected the RGB just turns off, unless its any shade of blue then it shows as a dark blue regardless of what blue it is
reef patrol
Sounds like the LEDs might have died an early death. I would recommend doing a SHARE on all of your profiles in Wootility and copy the codes elsewhere. Then do a complete factory reset of the board as a last measure.
If that changes nothing, reach out to us at social@wooting.io via email.
violet hemlock
Sounds like the LEDs might have died an early death. I would recommend doing a S...
No worries, thank you for the help.
cursive summit
Lol, no worries firefighters and police will get you sorted out
I wonder how fragile those Dome panels are
reef patrol
I assume they have some kind of outer, protective layer. To keep it somewhat safe from random shit blowing into it in heavy winds.
Not like you need clarity up close given the resolution.
lapis echo
hey guys i bought a prebuilt pc 4years ago and now i want to switch the case of it for a hyte y60 and i would like advices with the components i actually have (if they re good or not), if its easy to switch case without any experience in the domain and if you could pls tell me if this config can fit in the hyte y60 pls thx for your returns ā¤ļø
plus if you could tell me where to find the informations about my cpu cooler
ashen spindle
Cooler info you can find by looking at it or on the purchase or something
reef patrol
hey guys i bought a prebuilt pc 4years ago and now i want to switch the case of ...
It's a "standard" mATX motherb oard, so you should be able to install it into that case normally.
Wait...no... that's not AM4. HP ffs.
lapis echo
sould i change any of my components though ?
ashen spindle
That depends on you, do you want/need more performance?
lapis echo
i dont think so but like could you "rate" my config ?
reef patrol
Not great, not terrible?
lapis echo
k thx for your answers ā¤ļø
reef patrol
Can you play the games you want right now?
If the answer is no, then that's when you look at changing things out.
reef patrol
Then save that money for later. Better hardware every month/year you wait for that next upgrade.
fickle ore
https://vxtwitter.com/kirawontmiss/status/1755321400204673181
ha this will cost him like 100-200 grand
cursive summit
What if there's no damage
fickle ore
rescue operation costs
cursive summit
Which will prolly be like 20k lol
ashen spindle
wtf happened with arm
how did they get such a good outlook that its up 70% in 2 days
gusty kiln
damn, should have gotten in on the IPO, but completely forgot
ashen spindle
I mean with the nuvia lawsuit and all it didnt seem like they had great plans and softbank was losing money
really didnt expect this jump
gusty kiln
inb4 AI on phones causing a bubble
astral haven
seems strange that the phone ai would help arm, id suspect more from hyperscaler and nvidia arm cpus being used for ai stuffs
heres a theory
last few qualcomm gens have been so shit that people are now running out of patience for an upgrade, and the actually pretty good 8g3 and d9300 are getting people to buy new phones?
ashen spindle
would be really funny if its because of the nuvia chip sales projections and that craters or something lol
marsh glade
wtf happened with arm
Because the market is bullish and AMD is riding the wave
ashen spindle
wrong company mark
marsh glade
Especially the Nasdaq today. The S&P was the leader with Nasdaq as the sick sister, but as of today those roles have reversed
astral haven
amd is getting big orders from ai companies
ARM is not
marsh glade
Here have an annotated chart of the Nasdaq for what exactly has happened over the last week or two
ashen spindle
sure but if arm wasnt going to say they expect a 30% increase in revenue in the coming quarter the market doing whatever it does on those graphs wouldn't have caused such a jump
marsh glade
Don't fall into the trap of applying a piece of news after the fact to explain what has already happened
If AMD rallies on the news, then people will attribute it to the news being "received well by investors" but it is precisely equaly as likely that AMD could have tanked on the news release and people would have been more than happy to say "it was priced in"
The market only ever does one of two things:
It reaches for liquidity
or
It rebalances inefficient price delivery
ashen spindle
it's still not AMD we talked about š
astral haven
and we arent talking about investment advice, we are talking about tech companies we are interested in
marsh glade
Market went up because there are willing buyers at higher prices
ashen spindle
and its not news its from its earnings report
marsh glade
Earnings report = news
astral haven
financial statements arent just news
ashen spindle
Market went up because there are willing buyers at higher prices
sure but willing buyers came because they had a massive increased in forward looking revenue, no?
marsh glade
The release of information, whether that's news or earnings or the CEO shitting in a park, is just cover by which to reprice to liquidity
astral haven
yea but that statement is circular
marsh glade
It's only circular because you're looking at it from the wrong angle
Trades can only be executed if they are on the books. Trades get placed on the books either as limit orders or market orders. Price is moved such that traders are forced to engage, and "news" is used as a cover to "explain" that movement.
People buy above old highs and sell below old lows
That is the actual reality of the market
astral haven
same could be said to you
you only think its logical because you are only interested in the market
I am using the market as a divining rod for reality, not using reality as a divining rod for the market
or even worse using the market as a divining rod for the market
marsh glade
What I love about the markets is that they cannot lie. The truth that is printed on the charts is forever, and how one does or does not engage with that truth is as binary as anything can be. You either bought, you sold, or you did nothing. Set in stone, forever.
I guess 3 options isn't binary, but you know what I mean š
astral haven
sure
but it would be difficult for me to care less about the market
i use the second derivative of the market as a notification of interesting news in reality
marsh glade
The question was asked, "Wtf happened with XYZ" to which the answer was, it went up because there were willing buyers at higher prices
Nothing more, nothing less
astral haven
yes but thats not what we were asking
the interesting part to me is, why were there more willing buyers
marsh glade
Because it was priced above old highs
astral haven
and to be more specific, was there anything in reality that caused buyers to be more willing
marsh glade
Silly humans think of that as "strength" or "momentum" or because they were short and were forced to protect their position by closing at a loss
The number of buyers or the volume of buying is neither known nor relevant
astral haven
to the market
but im not interested in the market
my interest is in the technology
marsh glade
You're looking for the narrative
ashen spindle
the price went up after earnings so the earnings must have been something that wasn "yup same exact thing as we told you last time and you were expecting" so the question is what part of arm made that possible
marsh glade
I deny that assumption
astral haven
we know, but you are only looking at the market itself
ashen spindle
so you think if the earnings call would have said they make half as much as expected next quarter the same thing would have happened?
marsh glade
Look at any major economic news release, you can have "good" numbers and the market moves higher, you can have "bad" numbers and the market moves higher. The reverse is true too, you can have "good" numbers and the market move lower, and you can have "bad" numbers and the market move lower
astral haven
so what did i say about that
marsh glade
Look at any major economic news release, you can have "good" numbers and the mar...
If this is true, and a simple review of what has happened previously will demonstrate that to be true, then the only logical conclusion is that the numbers or news or event has nothing to do with the direction or intensity of the market movement
marsh glade
This may come as a surprise to you, but my explanation of the reality of what happened as I perceive it, was not addressed to you
So no I'm not going to circle with a red marker where you've provided your own opinions on what matters to you
astral haven
It's only circular because you're looking at it from the wrong angle
how was this not addressed to me?
ashen spindle
read the article and you know what 3 in 1 means...
astral haven
heres a hint, it is the feature that 2 in 1s dont have that i was asking a bunch of questions about yesterday that havent been answered
ooh i didnt notice it has a power fingerprint button!
hopefully itll be a memory one
steep creek
i feel the picture in the article is self explanatory, of what 3 in 1 means
astral haven
actually if you can use the keyboard in that mode, it would be unlikely that touch wouldnt work
steep creek
yea i dont see why it wouldn't work, says it supports a pressure sensitive stylus too which is very nice
astral haven
and its mpp!
steep creek
epic
astral haven
wish it was wacom but that was obviously never going to happen
steep creek
dont think ive ever tried wacom tbh, do have an apple pencil though but not much else to compare it with
is wacom much better?
astral haven
yep
steep creek
ah
steep creek
yeah it has a capacitor if im not wrong
astral haven
kinda but no
steep creek
aha?
astral haven
the capacitor is for bluetooth, the actual pen signals are created by the screen and pen electronically resonating
halcyon moss
Spen needs to charge in the latest galaxy ultras I believe
steep creek
right i see
astral haven
but the writing itself doesnt need charging
steep creek
now im kinda curious, dont think we've studied this in class yet
halcyon moss
My wife has it, never uses it.
astral haven
i can pick up the wacom pen that has been sitting in my backpack for 2 years (i have collected a bunch over time) and use it on my screen immediately
Or at least that was what i was going to say but i cant find the old pens, i only can find my new pen which i use every few weeks
steep creek
almost every day yes
astral haven
steep creek
though to be fair some of these pens charge up so quick i dont know if it would be noticeable for students at least if they need to be charged or not
astral haven
found it, the silver one i harvested from a phone going to ewaste, black one came with my phone
steep creek
i like the look of those
astral haven
they are rather small, and the black one requires a special case to use it
well to keep the phone and pen attached
steep creek
ah yeah this is the s21u pen right? after that i believe it could be stored inside the phone
astral haven
correct
steep creek
i see
astral haven
i cant use them any more since my case has magnets, and the magnets interfere with the writing, (fixed in newer versions of the case)
white circles around the dead zones for the s pen
steep creek
ah yeah i did read some complaints about using a magsafe case with the s pen
looks fine though, deadzones seem okay for quick note taking
steep creek
oh hm
astral haven
i have bad handwriting but its not thaaaaat bad
steep creek
yea i guess i can see why that becomes an issue now
astral haven
before i used this case, i also turned the phone sideways for notetaking
and uh not an option now
astral haven
im slow to type on my phone
and you cant always dictate
also sometimes you need to draw diagrams
steep creek
not too fond of note taking math lectures on a keyboard lol
astral haven
anyways the new pen also allows you to use it as a shutter button and do other stuff, and since its always in the phone, it should be much easier to always have available
those features require charging the small capacitor inside
steep creek
yeah ive seen some of those features they're nice
i read about it a bit and it makes more sense now
i'd like to have some remote actions with the apple pencil, like being able to use it as a pointer, or remote for presenting slides
that would be really nice
astral haven
unfortunately you cant use it as a pointer
you can just make gestures in the air to take actions on the phone
steep creek
i see hm
unkempt lake
unkempt lake
if only we could have gotten cpie 8 pin, less cables, less fires..
74k in damages
Surprisingly little
Considering the price of a 4090
ashen spindle
given it can start fires but could still keep the card alive
astral haven
its almost like a product that the company stopped selling quickly and recalled voluntarily because it was doing dammage ended up not having very many units in the wild
unkempt lake
its almost like a product that the company stopped selling quickly and recalled ...
Quickly?
What are you smoking
unkempt lake
It's been more than a year
ashen spindle
the original recall also was in december https://videocardz.com/newz/cablemod-recalls-12vhpwr-1-0-1-1-angled-adapters-users-advised-to-stop-using-them-immediately
unkempt lake
Also don't forget about the 1st gen adapters
astral haven
cablemod did a voluntary recall before the official federal one
unkempt lake
cablemod did a voluntary recall before the official federal one
As does any company to prevent liability
astral haven
no?
unkempt lake
/lawsuits
astral haven
apple, samsung, lg, gm, tesla
final flame
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2024/GPU-Angled-Adapters-Recalled-Due-to-Fire-and-B...
Can't wait for cableless setups that pull power from the mobo for the gpu
ashen spindle
yeah and the burns the mobo directly xD
astral haven
apple has managed it pretty well for the past 10 years, havent heard of the apple cards burning
i mean i suppose they only did it recently and 10 years ago with a gap in the middle
but afaik the highest tdp card since the 295x2 is still the vega ii duo
final flame
Why because people never follow a single damn standard
astral haven
i was about to say "sure but that wont cause fires"
but yes, yes it will
hmm
astral haven
oh wow im so surprised, how could this be possible /s
steep creek
haha
wheat plume
This person isnt happy about the Minisforum V3 xd
Probably half the price of an M3 Macbook too though
cursive summit
The new Snapdragon isn't too far away
I am just amazed how great they are saying they got the 1st gen iteration of it performing already
Incredibly excited for ARM on Windows
I hope it at least provides either price advantage or efficiency advantage
ashen spindle
wym already, the original nuvia core after QC bought them was slated for 2022
astral haven
and they are already on the 3rd surface qualcomm chip lel
ashen spindle
and most of the nuvia people are the ones who made the m1
pale sigil
and they are already on the 3rd surface qualcomm chip lel
good arm chips
astral haven
emphasis on good
cursive summit
I wonder what M4 will look like
We expecting even more stagnation?
M3 was a bit sad, even a downgrade in the Pro line
steep creek
i just hope windows for arm becomes better, current state isnt really that exciting
ashen spindle
it will at some point but not like there is much point to it
astral haven
^
the only real advantage is if microsoft werent able to dictate what processor manufacturers do already
but they pretty much can say yea put in all this stuff
ashen spindle
it will be nice for the case if both intel and amd shit it up in some generation in low power market
but until then, ehhhh not any benefit really
astral haven
^
although competition is nice, and external 5g modems are a pain
qualcomm has them built in
steep creek
yea i mean i like the competition, i get x86 is good already though
astral haven
id love to see a full nvidia windows system
ashen spindle
god no
the amount of artificial lockdown of anything that jensen could ever dream of
pale sigil
God no indeed
astral haven
the amount of artificial lockdown of anything that jensen could ever dream of
have you tried an nvidia linux system?
they are flipping great
ashen spindle
oh I didnt say it would be bad for consumer in all aspects
ashen spindle
I just dont ever want whats coming around that if jensen could do that
wheat plume
wat are they asking here? does the barebones have wifi or not?
astral haven
the point is they arent actually locked down
the shields are the least locked down tv boxes
ashen spindle
yeah because its not like a laptop market where they can sell a lot more and could benefit from locking people in
astral haven
they did lock people into shields tho
ashen spindle
and we have no fucking idea lana because as always we have no clue what that is about
astral haven
the shields sold better than all of vr
ashen spindle
do we have any shield sales numbers?
astral haven
its been a while
wheat plume
and we have no fucking idea lana because as always we have no clue what that is ...
the computer comes as a barebones version (without RAM and storage) and this person is asking if it comes with WLAN or not
and idk the difference between LAN and WLAN in this context.... so IDK if they are asking does it comes with wifi or not
astral haven
what else could they be asking?
wlan does stand for wireless lan which is usually wifi
wwan is cellular
ashen spindle
do you need to answer for them or are you interested in buying the pc or whats the reason behind it
wheat plume
š¤
I dont see why it cant be powered from a GaN cahrger if it could output the needed power??
im so confused by this questions
reef patrol
Context? Nowhere to be found.
wheat plume
Context? Nowhere to be found.
im reading these customer comments
https://store.minisforum.de/products/um773-lite?variant=42063004500151
astral haven
but why
wheat plume
cause I want a tiny PC for server
steep creek
why read comments, dont the specs clarify your questions?
cursive summit
cause I want a tiny PC for server
Why post here though
wheat plume
why read comments, dont the specs clarify your questions?
no
they dont mention WIFI at all in the specs
astral haven
highly recommend watching reviews, not website qa
ashen spindle
what you want a server and use it over wifi
wheat plume
ohhh mayeb it does
reef patrol
Imagining getting a server, and then bottlenecking it with Wifi of all things.
ashen spindle
more thinking about reliability tbh
astral haven
Imagining getting a server, and then bottlenecking it with Wifi of all things.
wifi is faster than wired on many new devices btw
ashen spindle
server makes me think of 10gig and I dont think 6e is there yet lol
reef patrol
6Ghz is not fully available yet so... yeah
astral haven
what
reef patrol
Bandwidth access legal limitations.
steep creek
yea same here we've only adopted upto 6425 mhz yet
astral haven
Afaik everywhere has just about figured out a few bands to give out for wifi
reef patrol
Like I said - Not fully - available. I didn't say "not useable*
ashen spindle
iirc we have like 500 and the us a bit aboe 1000mhz available
astral haven
Yes but it is available in hardware and the hardware is now legal to use
And has been for 2 years in most places
ashen spindle
you can use 6ghz its just not the entire spectrum
reef patrol
At any rate - Redoing my wifi sounds just as expensive as just slapping some gig cards into my machines.
astral haven
"With the publication of Implementing Decision C(2021) 4240 in the Official Journal of the European Union (OJEU), the European Commission has today released an additional 480 MHz of spectrum in the 6 GHz band for Wi-Fi[1]."
June 2021
ashen spindle
yeah but its only those 480mhz vs the 1200 you guys have
astral haven
At any rate - Redoing my wifi sounds just as expensive as just slapping some gig...
Oor have the server serve the wifi
wheat plume
hmm, Minisforum made a very chiglish video about the DP-in onthe V3
explaining how it works https://youtu.be/EPqlQCCMIGk
ashen spindle
wtf is chiglish
wheat plume
Chinese English
reef patrol
I think they meant Chinglish.
wheat plume
^
reef patrol
Sounds oddly racist.
wheat plume
it might be translated with google or AI
so that is why it might be off grammatically
reef patrol
That shit is dubbed with AI.
reef patrol
Including overpainting the mouth.
wheat plume
xd yeah
astral haven
yeah but its only those 480mhz vs the 1200 you guys have
Wifi 6e can only do 320mhz max
And you can run 9.6 gigabit phy over 320mhz of spectrum
A 1x1 device can do 1.2gbit,and the standard 2x2 can do 2.4gbit
Those translate to around 900mbps and 1.8gbps of real data bandwidth
ashen spindle
yeah if you have no other devices taking it up it's fine
it just still seems very odd to use for a server
unborn root
I just received my wooting ty Mansen for the answers of my questions
wheat plume
Interesting way to make it easier to pull a mini computer out of its box :P
just wrap string around it to pull it out
smoky frigate
for some reason I thought that was a TempleOS shirt at first glance
wheat plume
XD
astral haven
yeah if you have no other devices taking it up it's fine
It's hard to make a home server that needs more than around 2.5gbps of total bandwidth, and you can add a few wired devices if you want
wheat plume
I would love a TempleOS shirt
astral haven
And you get the full mostly 2 gigs regardless it's just shared between internet and server traffic
Extra bonus, 6ghz is hard to push through walls, meaning that there's less interference
ashen spindle
yeah but also means the server is not behind a wall so might as well just take the one meter cable
astral haven
Sure, and if you are in a situation where you want everything to be 1 small device, you probably don't have that much area to cover anyways
cursive summit
Dark and darker
Wasn't Bluesky started by the ex-CEO of Tweeter, whatever his name was
Yeah, Jack Dorsey
ashen spindle
oh nice, hopefully it kinda works well enough so we can leave twitter behind
reef patrol
Paywall. cba to read.
It's nice to see more activity on Bsky though
smoky frigate
wtf piracy
ashen spindle
or just put a fake email in the free option and you can see it too?
wheat plume
..... I used to watch this guy and I just found out hes a fucking Musk "super fan"
cursive summit
Are you sure they are not.. well.. very sarcastic
ashen spindle
does it change anything if it's either sarcasm or not
wheat plume
aaayy
ashen spindle
these die shots are always so neat
cursive summit
Why texan map though?
ashen spindle
wonder if anyone who tore apart a vision pro is going to send him an R1 to analyse lol
read the thread for the answer
cursive summit
Huh, I thought they were in silicon valley
analog sinew
if everything is bigger in texas how can they make semiconductors? makes no sense
cursive summit
Just apple things
steep creek
I thought they were in Santa Clara?
cursive summit
I thought they were in Santa Clara?
Which is in Silicon Valley
Maybe they were Texan previously
ashen spindle
they still have the texas office...
steep creek
Of course but the hq I always thought was in cali
Gotcha, I see
lol, I read about a few other companies also moving from cali to texas
ashen spindle
the cowboys that are getting ready to launch a nuke with this gen heh
cursive summit
lol, I read about a few other companies also moving from cali to texas
#JustTaxReasons
steep creek
Yep could be
cursive summit
I hope NYC gets fucked and all companies leave that place
Sorry, I see Reno, I think Fallout
steep creek
Reno reminds me of Tahoe, just makes me want to pack my skis and go there
Oh oi that looks rough
smoky frigate
jesus christ
mild dome
They need to dress their CEO up in cowboy boots and a gallon hat