🔌│tech

[unkempt lake]

No u

[cursive summit]

Have a good one, infant

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-and-goma-gif-9872673187939618574

[unkempt lake]

*embryo

[cursive summit]

I wonder how long until 32GB takes over

[cursive summit]

That's controversial

[unkempt lake]

Is it?

[crisp granite]

if that's some joke about me being underdeveloped
it's true

but fuck you

[unkempt lake]

Fuck you too ❤️

[glass stag]

Are you secretly inbred

[crisp granite]

not as bad as your wife

but yes

[glass stag]

I'm breaking the circle

[cursive summit]

4060 and Ti even appearing on any stats pages is just a travesty

Such shite GPUs

All the weirder is that it's sold far less than 4070

1.50%

[unkempt lake]

OEM/SI sales

[cursive summit]

Seems people just don't have any qualms paying 650$ or so for mediocrity

[unkempt lake]

Mediocre prebuilts have always been what actually sells

[umbral heron]

[cursive summit]

I wish I could snipe a 6800XT or better for like 400 ewros

Still great cards

[umbral heron]

Ah, cheapest one new is €530 here

[cursive summit]

599 here lul

[cursive summit]

It's just funny how retailers just gobble up these cards for insane prices and then they don't sell any of em cause it makes no sense to buy them

This just screams a COVID era relic

[glacial glade]

I need a new mouse

[glacial glade]

I paid $900 for my 3060ti

[cursive summit]

Good for you

[unkempt lake]

Gpu prices are a meme

[cursive summit]

Huh, some 6900XTs for sale for 500 second hand

This is actually kinda cool, a TOXIC

Price is insane, but it's a Sapphire TOXIC

I doubt many were made

[umbral heron]

My Fiio is flying here from China
I thought they won't send it before Lunar New Year

[unkempt lake]

Filo?

[cursive summit]

FiiO

What'd you buy Cal?

BTR-5?

[umbral heron]

KA17

[unkempt lake]

Wtf is a fiio

Oh

Audio stuff

[cursive summit]

Heh, doesn't look too shabby

[glass stag]

Full intestine in oreos

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[umbral heron]

I had BTR-3, but I don't use Bluetooth anyway, so my brother now has it

[cursive summit]

Huh someone's selling a 6900XT Toxic Extreme Edition

No price, prolly high

Prolly the best binned and cooled 6900XT model that exists

Kinda hate the design though

https://news.itsfoss.com/sudo-on-windows/

Oh nice I can now boot as superuser now and delete system32

[umbral heron]

So you finally don't have to remember to press Ctrl+Shift+Enter while running cmd/powershell

[crisp granite]

Trading blows in raster, not even close in RT

Fine wine might change that in half a decade or more

But I wouldn’t hold my breath

Now, if you’re excuse me

I’m going to run cyberpunk path traced, with a playable frame rate >:)

[uneven bolt]

I just tried to order keyboard and It says it is potentially fraudulent :/

I dont even want to deal with the hassle

[ashen spindle]

tell your bank its not then? idk

[uneven bolt]

Its not with my bank

its with wooting

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258 make a post there

[unkempt lake]

But if they give the xtx a nice price drop it would be nice

Also got my 1200cad/890usd this sunmer, that was a nice price (i know it was an exceptional deal but it happens)

You paid 1400cad/1039usd for your 4080super

If amd can just make that kinda price the new msrp... the 7900xtx still has a nice place in the market @prisma crag @crisp granite

There's other good XTXs out there

[uneven bolt]

AMD software gives me brain hurt

[unkempt lake]

When's the last time you've used it

[uneven bolt]

I use it quite often

honestly wish I just spent the extra £100 for the same perfomence but with Nvidia

[unkempt lake]

Zip tie noctua fans to the heatsink and call it a day

[smoky frigate]

or use a nice and thick rubber band

[unkempt lake]

What card u using?

Not a problem

[smoky frigate]

tie a toaster to the machine for extra power

[uneven bolt]

AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT

[unkempt lake]

But seriously tho I have neverhad a gpu fan die on me in one of my own systems during the useful life of a card

Most of the time fans just kinda die early on if they're bad from my experience

True

Never saw it as a big deal tbh

Sapphire and xfx are the best amd aibs CS wise

Never had to deal with sapphire

But i had to deal with xfx before and was happy with it

Rip evga

One thing evga had good support but their products were... inconsistent

Boomer

Oh shit i remember my 650 ti boost had a green pcb

oh no

[unkempt lake]

Have fun

But i'd say go play alan wake 2

Better game

Patch for what

Cyberpunk?

Oh alan wake

Is ng+ out yet?

[ashen spindle]

? ng+ has been out for a while has it not

[unkempt lake]

😦

I see

I guess ill wait for dlcs to reinstall then

[crisp granite]

It’s in

[unkempt lake]

Oooo

[crisp granite]

She runs

[unkempt lake]

The rgb looks very out of place in your build lol

[crisp granite]

Straight into mikhaelsoft bimbows

[crisp granite]

I’ll fix it real soon

[final flame]

I thought this was a joke

[steep creek]

https://x.com/raywongy/status/1752787114071298255?s=46

Ray Wong (@raywongy) on X

l used a SIM card push pin to "unlock" the cable connected to the Apple Vision Pro battery pack. It popped right out.

Twitter · Jan 31, 2024, 8:13 PM

https://vxtwitter.com/raywongy/status/1752811206593696116

Yeah seems to be almost twice the regular lighting

It’s powering quite a bit of hardware so maybe regular lighting wouldn’t cut it

But i wonder why they didn’t opt for magsafe or just a c to c cable instead

Same

haha

Apparently there is a lightning like connector in the AirPods Max too, where inside the metal part you use to adjust length

https://vxtwitter.com/geekstable/status/1752829880603971941?s=46

[astral haven]

Now that last one is super stupid
3.5 already exists

[mild dome]

One of Apple's engineer managers whos really proud of his lightning probably demands to put it in every product

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/nlWb0UVKAmA?si=f58PZsgRHqXJ-Uqd

[spring cairn]

Just bought a wooting today😳

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/nvidias-h100-ai-gpus-cost-up-to-four-times-more-than-amds-competing-mi300x-amds-chips-cost-dollar10-to-dollar15k-apiece-nvidias-h100-has-peaked-beyond-dollar40000

H100 last I read is kinda inferior in most benchmarks to Mi300X

This is kind of a callback for me to the whole Intel Xeon vs EPYC debate

Xeon was far more expensive for less performance, they just had market popularity

I think that changed now, I hope it does with compute accelerators too, AMD has the tech to outdo NV

[ashen spindle]

These numbers are bullshit

Who the fuck thinks comparing eBay listing price vs the price Microsoft gets is even remotely viable for anything

[hidden quest]

Agree to disagree , I don't think so , if so Nvidia alredy doom , but it clearly that Nvidia still wins on most part , if u say what amd can fight Nvidia is the price to performance ratio, other than that , some people rather say yes to Nvidia , since Nvidia is Nvidia

[ashen spindle]

Did you just have a stroke

[hidden quest]

I don't remember I was asking about your opinion

[ashen spindle]

Also Datacenter is not like consumer dgpu they explicitly don’t want Nvidia unless they have to lol

[green remnant]

What can I do to clean the inside bottom of my lamzu mini

Or does it not really matter

[halcyon moss]

But they also like stuff they know is reliable

And that's usually stuff they already used before

[ashen spindle]

nvidia is raking them over the coals they absolutely do not want that if they could avoid it

[halcyon moss]

I'm not saying Amd isn't reliable

[ashen spindle]

while that is true they dont like to be fleeced and also much prefer not to deal with the other pains that nvidia brings in big servers

it's not all about the raw hardware specs

[vernal cypress]

your wooting loosk amazing with your setup

[pseudo cipher]

what is the point of lubing the wooting 60he

[marsh glade]

Type-feel

And sound

[pseudo cipher]

Thank you

[spring cairn]

I don’t even have it yet

[sharp badger]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/95959/amd-and-sony-are-working-on-next-gen-playstation-gaming-handheld-portable-ps5-ps4-games/index.html Would be kinda nice as long as it's not like the Ps Portal 🤔

[mild patrol]

watchu guys think which is a better speaker the Edifier r1000T4 or Logitech Z333

[sharp badger]

I'd vote for the Edifiers but have not read anything about any of those

[cloud tulip]

hey can someone help me decide 2 cpus based on what I’m using my pc for?

[sharp badger]

Maybe?

[cloud tulip]

I’m trying to decide between the ryzen 7 7800x3D and the i9 13900kf

I just purely play video games and rarely ever record any video

[smoky frigate]

do you play games? take the x3d

[cloud tulip]

ah, would the ryzen work well with a game as well as a video playing or would that lag one or the other processes while running together

[sharp badger]

7800X3D also the AM5 platform will have longer support, LGA1700 will not be supported with what Intel will release next

[smoky frigate]

you won't notice a difference except higher fps in games

[cloud tulip]

and one more thing, would the 7800x3d go well with the 4080 super?

Any bottlenecks or anything

[reef patrol]

There is no such thing as "no bottleneck". Short of waiting for the AMD 8000 series, you won't find much better picks for a gaming CPU than the 7800X3D rn

[cloud tulip]

thank you

[mild patrol]

up ;-;

[reef patrol]

While I'm sure we have some audiophiles here, this isn't an audiophile Discord. You might find more immediate and detailed opinions on that, on a Discord more directly suited for that. Just saying.

[sharp badger]

To add Edifier is an Audio Equipment Company & Logitech is a Peripheral Company

[thick elk]

As a general rule, I would say edifier has the better reputation for speakers of the two

[cursive summit]

I think Yamahas are considered as baseline standard studio mixing speakers

I forgot which ones

[mild patrol]

okie im taking edif

btw is the new wooting cables compatible with tachyon mode?

[cursive summit]

I'd just look into a proper set of Yamahas or such

[sharp badger]

The KRK Rokit 5 are used a lot though

Think the HS5 from Yamaha is popular too

[cursive summit]

Yep yep

I heard very good stuff about Yamahas

Good analytical sound

[sharp badger]

Should get some better speakers but i usually just use headphones or the soundbar

I've got a pair of Bose Companion 20 from like 2012/13 or something, not really suitable for mixing though

[frozen ingot]

I've had a pair of yamaha hs80m since 2009

been on almost 24/7 and still using them as dailys

still sounds and works great

[vague needle]

speakers last a really really long time as long as you dont blow them out with max volume speaker destroying music

[sharp badger]

Yeah

Also just feel like one should give away stuff like these speakers, declutter a bit

[cursive summit]

So as long as you are not an idiot

I remember ma familia had some 1980s or 1990s soviet speaker sets

That have never been on lol for as long as I've been alive

I wonder what brand those were

Soviet audio though, historically, has been rather shite

Well the funny part is, those speakers were part of a wardrobe

They were just mounted there

Had like wooden furnishings and stuff

Lol they looked kinda like this

Wooden housing and the front was plastic

Had this weird graph of sorts at front

I bet they sounded like shite

[narrow snow]

Hello I want to buy a new monitor i need figure which is better Mainly Looking for 240Hz+ for bugdet of 400Eur

Thanks

I need help to decide on a which is good for the budget theres alot and understand the difference

[versed hinge]

Asus TUF is decent and affordable

[pliant ridge]

Viewsonic XG2431 may be a good option for you

If you’re cool with 1080p/240hz IPS 24”

Or could find a budget 1440p/240hz 27” IPS or VA

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/240hz

These are all good.

[narrow snow]

For a example Why The same Specs Asus rog more expensive then tuf

whats the point of overpaying

[narrow snow]

those all good?

[pliant ridge]

Zowie also makes good TN panel if you’re cool with good motion clarity but poor viewing angles

[narrow snow]

ill take a look

[narrow snow]

Im more for ips

Also is 360hz possible to afford for that budget?

or its just 240

Thats it?

I see

well ill tell what my prefers

or idk how say it

24-25" 240hz Ips

Thats it

[pliant ridge]

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XV252Q-Fbmiiprx-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B095X5KQY8/ref=asc_df_B095X5KQY8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=533458241275&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13791891996827120264&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016854&hvtargid=pla-1383397329724&psc=1&mcid=df43a1b0f9f1379dae139707a0966d1f&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5fetBhC9ARIsAP1UMgEuNV10PLc_P6F8hvxBxiqkgAqB_UnC8KvWZG7DgwOiAXcb5CuK0_0aAsu3EALw_wcB

Is that in your price range?

[narrow snow]

No

bcz shipping

plus no warranty

[pliant ridge]

That viewsonic is quite well reviewed

And budget friendly

But there are a handful of good monitors in that category

[narrow snow]

I can buy asus tuf for the same price i just prefer tuf looks

[narrow snow]

thats why im here

[pliant ridge]

Then get TUF lol

[versed hinge]

Idk maybe different panel type

[narrow snow]

the problem with that one i dont have in my country

[pliant ridge]

Yeah idk how their specs compare

[narrow snow]

both ips

[narrow snow]

I will send a pic of it

maybe im dumb

[versed hinge]

Then idk dig through the specs a bit. I’ve got a 24.5” 1080p tuf works fine

[narrow snow]

like i dont understand srgb or more detailed specs

im scared theres a cacth to it

[versed hinge]

I want a 4k OLED but don’t wanna pay 1k+

[narrow snow]

i will share it sec

[pliant ridge]

I’m excited for 1440p/480hz OLED

[narrow snow]

Asus TUF VG249QM1A

Look at it

pls

[narrow snow]

bruh wat

it means its good?

383 thats the price in usd

Dam

[pliant ridge]

Nice

Enjoy

[narrow snow]

https://www.gamingstop.co.il/items/6544568?srsltid=AfmBOopVEVCPETBbXT3e-kd4ZBK9ofrLkXt-NVWrZecYIbKqX-ew5Xb1YI8&msg=המוצר הוסף בהצלחה, הוסף מוצר נוסף להשוואה

is this good

its same price as tuf

but 360hz

like alil more expensive

by 50$

i cant find it in main website/store .com

i mean its 360hz

tuf is 240hz

459usd worth it?

its a better?

how do you know im at israel

bcz of my link?

Nice D

will i get warranty from main store

what does leaps and bound even mean

I see

Ips is best for budget

Bcz tn is worse colors

And Oled is expensive

Va?

Isnt it dead

like no one producing it?

Well Tn Is fast but worse Colors
Ips Fast With colors less fast then tn
And what is Va
Atleast thats to my knowledge maybe im mistaken

like if you look from left or right

u you will see worse?

if in in front of the monitor playing a game looking to left corner i will worse or if im sitting to left angle to the monitor?

what latter?

i see

well ips safer

[versed hinge]

Man wtf do u need 480hz for 😭😭

[smoky frigate]

why would you say no to 480hz if you can get it

[steep creek]

lmao

[versed basin]

any mouse recommendations ?

[steep creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvkgmyfMPks

[zenith silo]

Lamzu

[pliant ridge]

New TN monitors don’t suffer the drastic washed out and poor colors of older TN panels tho

Newer runs rival IPS in color and saturation.

VA has that good contrast

OLED has it all

[analog sinew]

I love how he spends ages typing a message and 10 secs later some dude jumps out of joy because of the thing

[latent mural]

how come some peoples wooting are like this

and my enter button is like this

[analog sinew]

because some are ansi and some are iso

?

[latent mural]

oh

[cursive summit]

Can we not?

What are you spamming for

[latent mural]

0

OOPS

iwas sorting a keycap out

[lunar junco]

where can we find rgb prfile codes? 🙂

[digital cliff]

#🌈│wootabase_profiles mainly and profiles.wooting.io

[ashen spindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/tomwarren/status/1753900448824631671 hahahahahah

[versed basin]

i'll look into it :D

[steep creek]

https://youtu.be/JVJPAYwY8Us?si=JE4Wb7b_YlWK-tY8

[vague needle]

According to MLID’s friend who knows a guy who works at the Best Buy in Nashville…

[ashen spindle]

it's tragic how people actually pay him for industry analysis

[cursive summit]

I'd rather trust ChatGPT

Unironically, I actually would

[cursive summit]

Oh just what I wanted https://youtu.be/llKZzym9hAo

[crisp granite]

At an absurd upcharge WTF

Ooooooooooooooooo

yeah I don’t think that’s worth the upcharge

Probably would scoop one up used in a year or two though, although I’m certain such mice wouldn’t survive

I just plan to jump to a M4K when that’s a thing

They’ll make one once there’s a couple massive leaps forward in nice

[narrow snow]

cant afford oled what best panel then>

Va/Tn/Ips all afforadable

depends on the monitor

But The alienware u shared ican buy

ips/360hz

[smoky frigate]

color more important? ips / motion clarity more important? tn

ew what! dark colors smear like crap on VA

[unkempt lake]

@prisma crag @crisp granite i like how they feel like they have to specify

He's competent

i hope

for 371$

xd

[narrow snow]

you speaking to me

[unkempt lake]

like damn my dude you're not good you're not great you're just competent

idk it made me laugh

[narrow snow]

the alienware doesnt have hdr?

is it worth it

[pliant ridge]

Wow he completely redid the website

[narrow snow]

like do i need it?

[pliant ridge]

Changed some products

Increased all prices lol

[balmy vector]

Oled sweep is very much imminent

[narrow snow]

Oled is like 1.200k Usd

no?

So What Wrong the alienware the hdr?

What does it mean

The alienware is edge?

[crisp granite]

It’s quite rare

[narrow snow]

Is it something that i will notice usaully because im common gamer

no im not looking for something that is special or the best in monitor

just something good that wont annoy me in any way

so im asking if i should choose other monitor bcz of this thing

is there 24?

inch

or just other brand

[tropic arrow]

what specs for the screen you looking for? 1440p 240hz?

[narrow snow]

fhd 240-360hz ips 24"

[tropic arrow]

where u from

[narrow snow]

israel

[tropic arrow]

uhhhh idk any vendors from there

guess i could just give you names and you check the prices

[narrow snow]

Just if you know good monitors without the issue that he mentioned will be okay ill search em

[narrow snow]

Sure

[tropic arrow]

i'm guessing its for competitive gaming? not solo player games

[narrow snow]

yes

[tropic arrow]

whats the issue mentioned

HDR?

[narrow snow]

Yes

[tropic arrow]

you want hdr?

[narrow snow]

He said thats an annoying thing that not real hdr

or in other words

look at this pic

[tropic arrow]

oh yeah nothing is "real" hdr except oled / mini led

[narrow snow]

So the alienware is okay?

[ashen spindle]

for competetive gaming you aren't going to use hdr anyway

[narrow snow]

Oh i see

[tropic arrow]

yeah ur not gonna use HDR

its just for good visuals in solo games

and idk if there is any good hdr monitor at 1080p tbh

[narrow snow]

i see

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-25-gaming-monitor-aw2523hf/apd/210-bfed/monitors-monitor-accessories

This is good?

if theres something better for the price

im listening

[tropic arrow]

well its not bad but 500$ for a 1080p even tho its 360hz is a bit expensive

panel in itself is fine, just has bad black uniformity

[narrow snow]

its more like 450

470

[tropic arrow]

thats still a lot

[narrow snow]

If theres a better 360 for this price

or cheaper

360

[tropic arrow]

what about the ViewSonic XG2431

one of the best 240hz

and its prob half the price

[narrow snow]

dont have it in my country

i do a 240hz

but its 430usd

for 240hz

[tropic arrow]

nah there are other 240hz options

[narrow snow]

i rather add those 40$ for 360hz no?

[tropic arrow]

430 is definitely overpriced

[narrow snow]

well thats my country

sorry mb its 410$ to be exact

and aleinware is 460$

[tropic arrow]

what about the Dell G2524H

[narrow snow]

thats cheap

307$

[tropic arrow]

asus tuf VG249QM1A / tuf VG258QM

[narrow snow]

the 360hz not worth it?

[tropic arrow]

if you can get it at a good price why not but its def not worth spending 100+ on it

[narrow snow]

the other guy said asus is old like produced in 2020 so better go for newer

[tropic arrow]

they are fine tho

overspending on a 240hz is pointless, its not like there is groundbreaking differences between 2 monitors of the same tier

unless you take the best 240hz and the worst VA 240hz

[narrow snow]

383.03 for tuf

both ips 240hz and 360hz

the 360hz not worth 100-120 more?

[tropic arrow]

def not

[narrow snow]

VG249QM1A = 383$

[tropic arrow]

could just get the dell, its 307

[narrow snow]

VG258QM cant find

[narrow snow]

yes

dell = best option? for me

[tropic arrow]

its the cheapest

[narrow snow]

All of them same specs

in the things thats matter

[tropic arrow]

well there is other stuff that matters but i guess in your case as long as its 240hz / ips and from a good brand its cool

[narrow snow]

exactly

But u said i wont notice issues with it

as long as no then im fine

[tropic arrow]

i still dont know what issue your talking about

[narrow snow]

just in any case like

the dude said if not real hdr from side angels

it would annoy you

just making sure

because for me its big purchase

[tropic arrow]

that doesnt make any sense lol

[strong sundial]

i think going beyond 240hz is like "hi-res audio": you normally can't tell the difference, yet some swear by it

[tropic arrow]

idk if thats the answer you are looking for but no this monitor isnt HDR capable

[narrow snow]

Well

[tropic arrow]

but you dont use it in competitive games so we dont care

[narrow snow]

If its good

Im good

[ashen spindle]

nah, it's less but it is still easily noticeable by most

[strong sundial]

also hdr is bad for some cases, like rhythm games if you use a black background
however if you play shooters it's probably ok

[strong sundial]

huh, that's interesting

[narrow snow]

Then im fine

Ty alot tho

all of u

[tropic arrow]

nah you turn that thing off when playing shooters

HDR only good in solo games imo

[strong sundial]

yeah i can't turn it off on my macbook lol

sadly

only change to a display mode where the blacks are bright enough to not get strain

[tropic arrow]

i just dont see the point of using hdr in competitive games

[narrow snow]

the monitor u send me it has fake hdr or whatever it called that i need to tunr off

[ashen spindle]

you'd need mods to make a competetive game or rythm game to even use hdr

[tropic arrow]

its not on the monitor itself

[narrow snow]

ohh

i see

[tropic arrow]

HDR is a setting in windows

or in some games

[narrow snow]

i see

i thought its monitor thing

[tropic arrow]

nope

[narrow snow]

good to know

[tropic arrow]

well to make it work yes you need the right monitor

[narrow snow]

its just if the monitor compatable to hdr?

[tropic arrow]

but technically you could use HDR, just on a monitor without the right hardware it will just look bad ig

just dont overthink it and dont use it 👍

[narrow snow]

well i have 60hz sense brand monitor

i think its no name

but yes

[narrow snow]

sure nice advice to not overthinjk

[tropic arrow]

240hz gonna be a big jump in smoothness

[narrow snow]

thats why i decided between 240 and 360

[tropic arrow]

hope ur pc can run 240fps in the games that you plan to play

[narrow snow]

yes

[tropic arrow]

all good then

[narrow snow]

2080super i9 13900k

i mean only wz struggles

fn and valorant

[tropic arrow]

13900k?

[narrow snow]

can

yes

prebuild

in 2022

[tropic arrow]

brand new?

[narrow snow]

legion

[tropic arrow]

2080s in a 2022 prebuild?

[narrow snow]

pre build

[narrow snow]

mid corona

yes

founders edition ig its cool

[narrow snow]

2yrs counts as brand new?

[tropic arrow]

yeah nothing wrong with it lol just a funny combo

[tropic arrow]

no

[narrow snow]

bottelnecking probably hard

[tropic arrow]

gpu bottleneck

[narrow snow]

well my goal to work save money and get 4070ti super

[tropic arrow]

not cpu

[narrow snow]

ig

yes

[tropic arrow]

nah 4070 ti is pretty bad

[narrow snow]

why?

[tropic arrow]

more expensive than the 7900xt

[unkempt lake]

Go 7900xt

[tropic arrow]

for worse

overall

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[narrow snow]

You might think im weird

[tropic arrow]

unless you really need them nvidia features

[narrow snow]

and ppl hate me but i hate amd for no reason

im used to nvidia

[tropic arrow]

amd had bad reputation

before the RX 6000 series

driver and stuff

but now its all good 👍

[narrow snow]

i just dont trust amd

[ashen spindle]

it's not weird you're just wasting money, but that's your call in the end

[narrow snow]

except the threadripper

[tropic arrow]

amd has the best gaming cpu on the market rn

[narrow snow]

what nvidia card worth the money?

[tropic arrow]

and is the healthiest option

for your wallet

well the less evil of the two

[tropic arrow]

4070s

[narrow snow]

threadripper carrying

[tropic arrow]

you know the threadripper isnt a gaming cpu

right

[narrow snow]

its

[ashen spindle]

threadripper is bad for gaming so no thats not carrying at all

[narrow snow]

for optimizing

i mean

not gaming

but like adobe things

rendering

and stuff

[tropic arrow]

just get a 4070 super

if you really want nvidia

[narrow snow]

also why its bad for gaming if its has mose cores or blah blah it have most of everything

[narrow snow]

ti/super

and if normal?

[tropic arrow]

because when you play a game doesnt use a lot of cores

[ashen spindle]

because it has lower clocks and different memory systems

[tropic arrow]

and those core run low on clock speed

[ashen spindle]

more cores dont do anything for games

[narrow snow]

intel>amd Gaming wise?

[ashen spindle]

no

[tropic arrow]

better to have 8 giga fast cores than 96 slow cores

[unkempt lake]

You nevee used it before so

Brand loyalty is moronic

[tropic arrow]

intel is better for a multi fonction system, their cpu offer good gaming power and amazing multicore workload performance

[unkempt lake]

Go with whatever's best at your price range

[narrow snow]

that would be hard to buy an amd but its only in the future

for now

[tropic arrow]

but for pure gaming

[narrow snow]

im goo

[tropic arrow]

amd has the king

[unkempt lake]

Whatever brand it might be

[narrow snow]

I see

thats interesting

[unkempt lake]

Sometimes amd is better sometimes nvidia is better sometimes intel is better

It all depends on what you want

And your budget

[tropic arrow]

but for fortnite and val it its mega overkill to get a 4070 ti super / 7900xt

those games run on my fridge

[unkempt lake]

Yep

Lol

[narrow snow]

when i will start working to afford that 4070 i will think twice of what i want to by

[tropic arrow]

just get a 4070 super

4070 ti super is bad

[ashen spindle]

if its in the future there might also be new cards so no point deciding now

[narrow snow]

Really aint it ti and super combined means its more powerful?

[narrow snow]

right

[tropic arrow]

well yeah but the card is still bellow the 7900xt for more

you are paying more for less

[narrow snow]

1,121.72 for 7900xt and 766.0 for another one why?

[tropic arrow]

not very smart choice

[narrow snow]

Dam that hurts

[tropic arrow]

two 7900xt?

[narrow snow]

No

[tropic arrow]

different models?

[narrow snow]

Theres one for 800$ and one for 1.2k

[tropic arrow]

xt and xtx ?

[narrow snow]

https://cryptech.co.il/sapphire-nitro-rx-7900-xt-vapor-x-20gb-gddr6?ga2=2&cht=1&kwd=&mth=&crt=&plc=&dev=c&cid=18862183571&gid=&fid=&tid=&lin=&lph=1007972&ntw=x&dvm=&adp=&channelid=120943&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5fetBhC9ARIsAP1UMgGSU_dOcqvxHq1woY6DU-5j84a0teKm2LAIDm4BqEJwbqbYHhEeVXAaAlVHEALw_wcB

[narrow snow]

this 1.2k

is there any difference?

spec wise

[tropic arrow]

cant see the second link

[narrow snow]

wait

[tropic arrow]

just screenshot it

[narrow snow]

https://cryptech.co.il/כרטיס-מסך-gigabyte-radeon-rx-7800-xt-gaming-oc-16g?ga2=2&cht=1&kwd=&mth=&crt=&plc=&dev=c&cid=18862183571&gid=&fid=&tid=&lin=&lph=1007972&ntw=x&dvm=&adp=&channelid=120943&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5fetBhC9ARIsAP1UMgEqBT-hLRwYz1qW1KqadYjsncQGvH9l6ArPF2PoreHYCCvrpwfl9pgaAhwIEALw_wcB

here

[tropic arrow]

its not the same card

7900xt > 7800xt

[narrow snow]

OHHHHH
\

IM DUMB

[tropic arrow]

7900xt > 4070 ti super
7800xt = 4070

also that yeah

[narrow snow]

4070>7900 price wise

[tropic arrow]

huh

[narrow snow]

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/16809954295629464830?sca_esv=6c359354a686a14b&sxsrf=ACQVn0_EXgpjp5y-rvKMipEBF4vz8BZLwg:1707009408328&q=4070&biw=1920&bih=945&dpr=1&prds=eto:13331482780595062790_0,pid:16838152583221444206,rsk:PC_16920920734024719537&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiG_KXMwZCEAxUn-QIHHZtqD40Q8wIIng8

[tropic arrow]

4070 more expensive than 7900xt ? 🗿

[narrow snow]

cheaper

848.13

for 4070

and 7900xt 1.2k

250$ difference between 7800 and 4070

no we are just speaking

[tropic arrow]

you mean 7800xt? 💀

[narrow snow]

yes i have 2 option asus/gigabyte

both at 850$

[narrow snow]

766.05

766.05 =7800xt
850$=4070
1.2k=7900xt

[tropic arrow]

get a 7800xt 👍

[narrow snow]

well its not now either way

maybe wil lbe new amd/nvidia

when ill will have the money Lmao

[tropic arrow]

is it a 4070 normal or super

[narrow snow]

normal

💀

[tropic arrow]

yeah dont get that lmao

only good 4070 is the super

or if you get a good deal on a 4070

[narrow snow]

super is like 950$

[tropic arrow]

nah

stick to 7800xt

[narrow snow]

i see

im happy that i decided for the monitor

well its nigt sleep time

Gn

[crisp granite]

Israeli hardware prices make my insides hurt

[tropic arrow]

hardware prices make my insides hurt

[smoky frigate]

my insides hurt

[balmy vector]

hurt

[scenic ruin]

just had the greatest idea, option to randomize your key's press level, this would provide no utility other than being able to make using your keyboard annoying because some keys activate instantly and some take a full press

[tawdry urchin]

hey guys

If i ordered a keyboard like 2 days ago

how long would I expect to wait if i'm living in canada?

[zenith silo]

March likely

It tells you on the website

[tawdry urchin]

wait where exactly?

oh nevermind

[worthy roost]

dose any one know how to set 60he the profile as default , cuz every time i restart pc, it will change to typing mode auto.

[feral wadi]

Chat is this real?!?

😭

[misty saffron]

ah yes, the $50 anime markup

[unkempt lake]

But does that really matter? Switches are switches and if they're made by Gateron that's what matters, not who sells them

[misty saffron]

the lekker switch is an existing gateron switch tweaked by wooting

yes, this can matter

[digital cliff]

not possible, you have to make the profile you want as default the topmost one. duplicate and drag up to replace it

[tough meteor]

its probally the amount of switches you get

which is why theres such a difference in price

unless you get the same amount of switches then idk

[fair gull]

well first its not from us and second gateron also shouldnt list it as 60he lekker since thats not how their switches are called.

[humble tangle]

Guys, I have troubles with orders, why I can’t order keyboard from wooting.io?

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258 search there and post it there if no solution is there

[spring cairn]

No I ordered one on feb 2nd and I live in Canada and it’s supposed to be here on the 9th

[spring cairn]

Mid February is what they told me

[wraith sequoia]

cant wait for the wooting 80he 😦

btw is it normal that backlight leds are prone to failure? I had 4 corsair boards and every kb had failures after a year and i didnt spill any soda and used contact cleaner.

[marsh glade]

LEDs in general are fairly notorious but we offer 2 year warranty for LEDs

[astral coral]

Can anyone recommend a way to make my wooting keyboard wireless, tryna remove as many cables as I can for my setup

Scrap that wouldn’t work anyways would have no way to power it

[wraith sequoia]

yeah i saw that and was like woot pun intended

I bought my boards at my local retailer so i could easily get them swapped out, but now i could do that again but idc anymore until i get my wooting x)

[worthy roost]

ok, i got, thank you!

[digital cliff]

you'd need a battery, a charge controller, a transmitter and a receiver at the very least

and some electrical knowhow I suppose

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-geforce-rtx-3050-6gb-is-20-slower-than-the-8gb-version

[astral coral]

That’s fine I have a loose understanding but yea it would jus create more cables than the singular 1 it already has

[cursive summit]

God I love how project farm is literally about everything lol

From engine oils, to best angle grinders, to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-eBmPSqd4g

Best pans

Unironically though, useful knowledge

[digital cliff]

does he test the ikea 365+ pan

proven itself to me, for 13€ or whatever it's kinda a no-brainer if you need a cheap pan

[thick elk]

General problem for me with Project Farm is that he test things a bit too formulaic, sometimes useful info but not the best overall picture.

[halcyon moss]

How many of those do not have pfas? :p

[thick elk]

Probably all the ones that do a good job at making things not stick

[gusty kiln]

https://moondroplab.com/en/phone/miad01

@final flame

[sharp badger]

https://youtu.be/GnWfLVKgHFQ?si=eH71udgN3yC06me- Really interesting laptops would be nice to see the X3D chips

https://youtu.be/yeafE30nIC4?si=NoO_GCwFOJmIC0tf

I like the Grey and Orange combo on TE electronics

[digital cliff]

yeah not gonna lie I'm not a huge fan of orange but that piece of kit is just so nicely designed and the color scheme is perfect

the fonts and everything, just very sleeeek, the right blend of sort of 70s blockiness and postmodern minimalism

[sharp badger]

Yeah

[final flame]

Ye very cool, maybe will have to get if it isnt too expensive, gonna be sending all my data to the ccp

[narrow snow]

any1 have tried orange 2.0 on 60he?

[gusty kiln]

Any sacrifice for questionable audio improvement

Currently using the oxo 10 inch

Really nice

But only 2 months of usage

Hope it's durability holds up

[unkempt lake]

Project farm is cool

[unkempt lake]

If i were to buy a laptop rn i'd go for it, just for the repairability/upgradibility aspect

Worth paying a premium for it

[cursive summit]

I wonder what they mean by phone though

Either they are literally making a conventional smartphone with a headphone jack and.. god forbid, a balanced out

But I saw more peeps believing it's not a "smartphone" and more something like what FiiO does

Those do run Android, but they ain't callphones

Also wouldn't have to bother with all the cell bands and such

[final flame]

it would be far more unique if it were a phone though
and overall I would prefer that form factor as it prevents you from carrying around a separate device

[umbral heron]

I dunno
As someone who listens music a lot and gets called a lot, I prefer having music player and phone separate

[final flame]

I don't get called

[umbral heron]

Charms of having both private and work SIM cards in one phone

[ashen spindle]

not like all the ones that bought one before zen4 threw it away

it's still very many people having one

before zen3 that wasnt a good choice and after zen3 adl had good deals, rpl was quite good and zen4 before the x3d wasn't great due to platform costs

[hasty thunder]

Well, Intel still has a few benefits compared to AMD. Sure, they are swallowing power like a drunken russian's swallowing Vodka, but they don't struggle with RAM stability

[ashen spindle]

uhh

for overclocking that is very much the opposite

if you want to run a kit with >6400 without changing gear mode, sure but you can just change to gear 2 if you do ram oc and if not then you rarely would gain any benefit from faster ram anyway

also I think I saw one of the big overlcockers get some new records on the apus that just came out

ah not quite, 3rd place https://hwbot.org/submission/5473062_lodewijk1978_memory_frequency_ddr5_sdram_5815_mhz

9mhz behind 1st on a 14900k

[hasty thunder]

BLCK at 118? on an AMD?!? O.O I thought BCLK OCs are dead

i'll wait for the X and X3D versions tho

[ashen spindle]

These are zen 4 apus

It’s just on desktop now

So the x/x3d variants are old news xD

[spring cairn]

VA🤮

[narrow snow]

@tropic arrow I have a question

[tropic arrow]

what is it

[narrow snow]

IS there a cheap oled fhd 24" 240hz?

[tropic arrow]

no

they all above 800€

[narrow snow]

is there a monitor like that even?

Damn

Nvm

[tropic arrow]

and they are not 1080p

they all 1440p 27"

[narrow snow]

ah i see

well ty

nvm

[final flame]

Oled is top of the line currently, means you're gonna be paying top of the line prices

[narrow snow]

i dont have 800eur Laying around

[final flame]

And there is limited skus available due to the limited companies that are able to even manufacture oleds

[narrow snow]

Oh

[tropic arrow]

current gen oled will prob get cheaper with newer ones

glossy qd oled on a 27" panel

and for the same price as current gen

fr?

i thought it was later this year

oh wait no 27" 4k

nah its pointless

32" 4k

i want to try a glossy 27" qd oled

but i cant justify the upgrade because i already got a current gen oled

what is that

i have never seen this brand lmao

never heard of that tbh

is it using current panels?

the 27" version is more expensive than monitors with the same panel from lg / asus

but the 32" 4k 240hz for 1050 thats pretty reasonable

cant find any review from rtings on it tho even on older models

after some search i just see angry people lol

Endgame of monitor is here

That’s kinda wild how last year there was no oled monitor and now we are seing tons of options

I dont really see the point of 27 4k

Ppi too high

Might as well get a bigger screen

Ah I see

But I think they improved already the sub pixel layout on the new gen

[rain drum]

Good evening, I was wondering has Wooting keyboard's rapid trigger ever been tagged by Valorant's vanguard as a third party device?

[round trellis]

No.

[last ravine]

…

[old marlin]

💀 somehow one of my servers just decided to load it's oldest backup before doing a new one

and there is no log of it in proxmox

[hasty grail]

@prisma crag hey! I wanted to ask you something, so passing when I place my order and auto filled out the info it filled to the wrong address and to literally no name no phone number, actually the phone number is my old one and I noticed a little bit late when i was checking on my order status, but my order is already being shipped and I was wondering if I can change it mid shipping or shall i contact wooting thru support

[honest gull]

You cannot cancel it mid shipment

But I guess you can still contact support

[reef patrol]

You can TRY and contact the courier and see if you can redirect or refuse delivery on the package.

[hasty grail]

well it shows like this

is being prepared soo its not ready yet

[honest gull]

Doesn’t look like it

[hasty grail]

wym

[honest gull]

If it was shipped it would say shipped to you and they’d redirect you to the carrier and the shipping status

[hasty grail]

so im good rn?well if i contact support they can change the info for me?

[honest gull]

You can try

[hasty grail]

😭 i hope it works

[hasty grail]

ik ik its in favor for me if its the case cuz i need to get in contact with ur team to get my billing fixed lol

[honest gull]

Get in contact with them quick then

[hasty grail]

bet

[glass current]

Best mouse wireless for latency?

[frigid hinge]

Razer 8K hertz

[glass current]

but I've never understood what the PC or anything else needs to use high hertz mice

[honest gull]

Smoother mouse input

[frigid hinge]

The Razer 8K hertz is considered the best end to end latency, but mice with 4K Hz are also good imo, even 1K

Personally, I'm using a GPX Superlight and never had problems with it

[glass current]

Yes but i Asia you of are compatible with all specs and monitor?

[raw zephyr]

1khz is all one needs, it's the most compatible as well

[frigid hinge]

The Superlight is available with anything

[glass current]

Nah g pro have the whell shitty

[glass current]

Not the superlight the Razer 8k hz

[frigid hinge]

You have to check on the webstores

[glass current]

Ye

[frozen ingot]

need a pretty speedy cpu etc to use 8khz setting on whatever peripheral you got with it

[umbral heron]

4/8kHz is only useful if you feel your mouse movement "jittery" at higher monitor refresh rates
Otherwise 1kHz is a-ok

[raw zephyr]

i have a really good cpu and it's still a mess, especially on linux

[frigid hinge]

And some games can't handle 4K or even 8K hz

[honest gull]

Define, really good cpu

[raw zephyr]

7800x3d

[honest gull]

Ok

[frigid hinge]

Like in Tarkov, at 8K Hz your character's movement begins to lag

[honest gull]

Some people don’t say the exact model and it’s up to assumption sometimes

[old marlin]

linux is the bigger issue there

it's HID handling is quite bad

[umbral heron]

I mean, with lower DPIs mouse even when set to 8k polling will never actually be 8k, it'll settle around 2k or so

[old marlin]

also not true

depends on how fast you move it

[umbral heron]

That too, although I never could break 4k

[old marlin]

that's like kinda on you tho

use more dpi then

[honest gull]

I have the Gpro x super light 2 and I use 1600 dpi and it’s max like 100% of the time

[umbral heron]

I don't care, I use 1k anyways

[honest gull]

Damn ok

[frozen ingot]

I'd just ignore 8k unless I had like a higher end rig from the past 3 or so years

[umbral heron]

Me too, although with KDE's flat acceleration profile it's closer to 800 than 1600

[raw zephyr]

i have libinput with my soul

hate*

[umbral heron]

[fair gull]

@reef patrol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K2RtoIx_P8

[reef patrol]

ohno

[wraith sequoia]

he tried mining too

[wraith sequoia]

had a problem with battlefield regarding poling rate my game would be super laggy with 4k 8k

[rough osprey]

less goo

[fair gull]

oh boi

i hope you havent used arc on mac or any other browser thats not internet explorer

[rough osprey]

huh

just wanted to try

the mobile app is kinda cool

with the ai search thing

[fair gull]

it should be called arc for windows alpha tbh

[steep creek]

ive used it on macs, is it that bad on windows?

[fair gull]

the win version has no ai stuff in it or at least io couldnt find it

[steep creek]

im still on the waitlist

[fair gull]

i have a lot of random crashing, extensions dont work for a lot of stuff, no little arc window like on macos, the theming is different (and kinda sucky cause it has a glass like look)

a lot of shit i could rant about

oh also the url is stuck at the top of the window

now cmd+shift+d (on windows ctrl+shift+d) to switch it to the sidebar

[steep creek]

ah yikes i was stoked to let it be my main browser but seems its too early for that then

[fair gull]

no auto translate for websites

for now its a big downgrade compared to arc on macos

or iphone

[steep creek]

hm i hope it improves

[fair gull]

also a seemingly arbitrary windows 11 minimum

[pale sigil]

Arc is definitely rough on windows 😅

[fair gull]

i couldnt find anything that would make it win11 only except maybe rounded window corners by default

[pale sigil]

It does feel rushed/wing it.

[steep creek]

its nice on iphone but i really enjoyed macos the most, not sure if i can do without some of the features on windows 😕

[fair gull]

i still use arc on windows cause i wanna see it improve

and i hope most of this is related to the swift UI port they do

[steep creek]

yeah i think it will improve but might take a while

[ashen spindle]

maybe just because by the time it's fully released win10 EOL is close so why waste supporting it if you can first focus elsewhere

[fair gull]

i mean if theres no apis they use exclusive to win11

then win10 would be free

and win11 is hard enforced cause their way to distribute it (at least for now) is through microsoft app store

[ashen spindle]

ah

[rough osprey]

okay not being able to use chrome passwordmanager is uhh

[fair gull]

i mean that one is sort of...

[rough osprey]

i forgot about that part

[fair gull]

well

use smth good like bitwarden

[rough osprey]

i kinda got everything in apple one now

[astral haven]

does bitwarden have an android native client?

[fair gull]

yes

[rough osprey]

dont know if there is a way to sync this stuff

[astral haven]

and i mean that uses the android autofill api

not just an app

[fair gull]

you can export apple password manager stuff into a csv and then import that into bitwarden

[fair gull]

no and i wouldnt want it to

[astral haven]

???

[fair gull]

also unsure how that would work

the vault is only open as long as i have the app in the foreground after typing in the password

[rough osprey]

is the bitwarden integration good on ios?

[fair gull]

if i move it to the background it auto closes the fault reprompting a password

[rough osprey]

like close to apple

[fair gull]

only use it on macos with arc mainly

[steep creek]

yeah it can autofill on ios, i use protonpass or keychain so havent tried bitwarden really though

[astral haven]

ok i installed the bitwarden app and it does register itself as an autofill thing, so yes it does

[fair gull]

huh guess its opt in

[astral haven]

obviously?

[fair gull]

well i had password managers that always wanted to autofill as soon as a password box appeared

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/overclocker-achieves-ddr5-10600-memory-oc-with-ryzen-7-8700g-apu oh wow dual channel mem oc, fancy

[rough osprey]

they should make a windows safari app lol

[fair gull]

no

pls no

[astral haven]

why

[fair gull]

safari sucks

[rough osprey]

i like safari :C

[steep creek]

used to exist but it sucked lol

[rough osprey]

on ios atleast

[fair gull]

i have so many websites that are lowkey broken

[fair gull]

because no other browser can exist on ios

all of them are safari

[rough osprey]

for now

[steep creek]

yea websites breaking with safari on my ipad and iphone break near daily

[fair gull]

like i tried using safari for months

but i just couldnt and then just kept using arc

[steep creek]

i'd rather take the extra power drain using arc or another than safari on mac

[astral haven]

stockholm syndrome

cant believe i forgot that name and had to look it up

[rough osprey]

it looks better then the ios chrome app haha

[fair gull]

doesnt show up for me

[astral haven]

interesting?
i just installed the current version of the app from the play store?

never even opened it?

[fair gull]

i also just got the playstore app

and didnt change anything for autofill cause i couldnt find anything related to it (wanted to disable it if anything)

oh now theres an actual settings section called auto-fill

and its disabled for me

[astral haven]

interesting

[fair gull]

wonder if it came in at some later point or something

[astral haven]

not sure why you would disable it tho given the option, i really enjoy not having to remember passwords

[fair gull]

i dont remember them either

[astral haven]

yea but you have to remember that you have an account at all

[fair gull]

oh yeah but thats easy

i only have so many accounts i need on the go

[astral haven]

there are such an incredible number of websites that i have logins for that i cant remember them all

[fair gull]

most my logins i only use on desktop

[astral haven]

i use my phone as a desktop half the time that im not at work

[fair gull]

yeah no i mainly use my macbook for work and pc for the rest

[astral haven]

i use a pc for work, but at work we have actual rules about what password manager we can use

[fair gull]

inb4 excel spreadsheet

[rough osprey]

got my apple notes for that

[astral haven]

i mean, i think it should be pretty easy to guess from my screenshot

[fair gull]

yeah its google

[astral haven]

lets just say that its definetly more secure than bitwarden

which obviously rules out google

[rough osprey]

note on the monitor is most secure ofc

[fair gull]

oh? how is it more secure than bitwarden

[steep creek]

is it keepass?

[astral haven]

yup

[steep creek]

offline password manager, i enjoy using it

[astral haven]

its just better about generating randomness, passwords, and encryption options

its obviously slower than bitwarden, but thats how things go

[fair gull]

i thought keepass used the broken chacha20 for its data

[steep creek]

yea thats the tradeoff, no official app for ios sadly though

[astral haven]

thats an option ofc, but we use aes

[fair gull]

last i knew it uses aes and then chacha on top or something

[astral haven]

nope

aes on top of aes

its an option in settings to use chacha, and if you have an old vault from the 1.x days it can still open it

[fair gull]

the randomness thing idk how either does it and what is the passwords point?

[astral haven]

keepass has built in generator options that can make use of more randomness, and can support specialized password generation types like diceware

for example, in bitwarden, can you set password iteration count?

[fair gull]

isnt diceware just sort of passphrases

[astral haven]

approximately, but thats just 1 example

[fair gull]

also no but i also dont see really how it matters. i just spam the reroll anyway

[astral haven]

no no

[fair gull]

usually until it looks funny in the window

[astral haven]

for the encryption key for the vault

[fair gull]

id have to check my env settings of the vault

[astral haven]

how many cycles through aes for example the password goes through before it spits out the encryption key

[gusty kiln]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/663102/asus-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt-tuf-gaming-overclocked-triple-fan-20gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

[astral haven]

keepass defaults to 1 second, which is nowdays becoming a rather high number of iterations

[gusty kiln]

7900xt for 640

[fair gull]

forgot it was an account setting not a general selfhosted setting

[astral haven]

bitwarden currently defaults to 600k yea

[fair gull]

yes and this is my own vault

i can set this to whatever

same for on the official bitwarden

[astral haven]

yea

but keepass defaults to 1 second

which on my computer is 63 million

and as you upgrade your computer, it automatically gets better over time

[fair gull]

so just a sort of lazyness point then

[astral haven]

🤷 security is all about making the end user laziness not matter

600k is alot better than i was expecting tho so good on them

[fair gull]

well the server does extra iterations as well

idk how many though

i think it adds another few hundred k

[astral haven]

where does it say that?

oh there it is i see yea 100k

[fair gull]

i read that somewhere in their documentation when setting up my selfhosted server years ago

[astral haven]

it is strange that they use rsa

[astral haven]

but 🤷

[fair gull]

i think the main difference is a "cloud" hosted solution vs smth locally

i think theres even an upper limit on 2m iterations or 20m

[astral haven]

it is "cloud" but its our own private cloud

[fair gull]

and i can imagine my phone would struggle with that really

[fair gull]

thats why i quoted it

not that im all too happy with the term cloud in general

man up your LOD