🔌│tech

[fair gull]

not exactly sure if its future frames or interpolated frames

[raw zephyr]

i have a 7800x3d and 7900xtx and i had terrible frames in the finals

very poor optimization

[fair gull]

just play on 1080p

[raw zephyr]

i play on 1440p

[fair gull]

i mean the guy who needs to play at 240fps for some reason

and yes 1440p (qhd) was the target res

[raw zephyr]

ah, as long as i get over 150 fps it's just fine for me

[fair gull]

i mean im glad about 30 or 60fps either is fine for me

in any game really

[cosmic thunder]

but what about the latency

[raw zephyr]

it's a competitive shooter, you just want more frames than that

[fair gull]

if you need more frames -> reduce resolution

easiest way to get more fps

[raw zephyr]

or buy a new pc

[cosmic thunder]

ill just buy a new pc

after 10 years

i don have money

[fair gull]

https://youtu.be/DReZoh2hzjw?si=jTIsAOp4snm0V5iK&t=1533

4090 low settings and statically traced just gets 200fps

so a new pc doesnt seem to fix anything

[cosmic thunder]

gpus are too expensive these days

[fair gull]

at least from the looks its just really badly optimized

[cosmic thunder]

damn

[fair gull]

even with frame generation its just around 320fps on qhd low settings

[cosmic thunder]

with 4090?

[fair gull]

this video is just 4090

and a 13900k

the setup doesnt change the entire video

[cosmic thunder]

developers should work on optimizing the game right now

[fair gull]

also i mixed up segments.... 1080p runs at 180fps on the 4090

on low settings

frame generation seems to be required for high fps

[cosmic thunder]

does frame generaration also reduce latency?

like input lag

[fair gull]

fps doesnt influence input lag?

[cosmic thunder]

wut

[fair gull]

input lag is the time from your input at the keyboard/mouse to when the game handles it

you seeing the action faster or not is just not in the equation

as i previously mention im also not sure how exactly frame generation works nor if its beneficial in ANY competitive games as its just made up frames that were never calculated by the graphics card

[cosmic thunder]

hmm

i see

thanks

[fair gull]

but yeah it seems dx11 runs bad and dx12 with low raytracing settings seems to run best

may vary from gpu to gpu as well though

game seems to have some serious issues since its not cpu bound or anything on lower resolutions (at least form the quite long video i posted the percentage doesnt go that high)

[cosmic thunder]

so its not bottleneck issue from cpu?

and its just badly optimized

[raw zephyr]

indeed

[cosmic thunder]

well i rather play a circle game on my celeron laptop

[ashen spindle]

Frame generation increase input lag so you never want to use it for those games

[fair gull]

interesting

i thought it runs on the gpu and wouldnt influence any of the input pipeline

[nimble canopy]

frame generation uses the previous and next frame to generate the frame
so it will delay when it actualy shows the next frame

[fair gull]

imo what you see isnt part of input lag though

from what i understand of how people measure input lag its purely click/press to action

[thick elk]

to visible action

[fair gull]

the visible action matters?

[ashen spindle]

Yes if it gets processed instantly but you see it 5 frames later it feels like you have 5 frames added latency

[fair gull]

hm

so its more like a perceived input latency

rather than the actual input latency

[ashen spindle]

Sorta but also not really

[raw zephyr]

end to end latency

you click, it shows up, that's what matters

[ashen spindle]

While for the first frame it arrives in time but gets displayed late you then have a later response from that so the next time you think you need to press a button in time is a delay so it’s lagging behind

[fair gull]

i feel like end to end is as loose cause it could be any end to any other end

[raw zephyr]

you are just nitpicking now

[fair gull]

just trying to understand terminology

[thick elk]

I never looked into it but one could also test input to auditory feedback as a messurement at some point.
This could be faster in theory if you shoot hear a hitsound it would be a form of latency in that regard.
Granted not the most important one but still.

[nimble canopy]

have not tought about that even the generated frame should show some information of the next frame

but from everything i have seen (never used it) their is extra delay
maybe the delay testing works bad with frame gen because it relies on something poping up and how do you do frame gen when something just appears

[fair gull]

thats why im asking to understand though... there seems to be a disconnect between what the name of the metric and what is actually measured

[ashen spindle]

No testing is working fine with it, so something like led on the mouse for left clicks and then you have a 1000fps camera and you check how long it takes for the gun to shoot or whatever it is you are doing with left click

[nimble canopy]

but what if the frame gen sees the flash but since it suddenly appears it ignores it

[ashen spindle]

Depending on how it’s integrated on the game and what data is given to frame gen it can be better or worse but it inherently has added latency

[fair gull]

that sounds like it shouldnt be input latency though. it includes things that arent input handling

[nimble canopy]

their is latency for making the generated frame but how much is it?

[fair gull]

imo thats more of a perceived latency test as it includes the factor of when you perceive the input you made

[ashen spindle]

Call it click to photon latency or whatever then it’s the same thing for people and it does the same result for people who aren’t so old they wouldn’t notice it at all anymore

[fair gull]

oh thats a good name

although it still is something you can only really compare to other devices on the same system with the same software

[ashen spindle]

But input is what matters here and there isn’t a case where you actually need the input to game engine code latency or something so less accurate names don’t really matter

[fair gull]

i mean i took them as universal metrics that cut out all the extra stuff like engines etc

but now i realise i cant compare latency results from 1 test rig to another

[mint skiff]

Fellas, I have a new GPU on the way, i'm going from nvidia to nvidia, however people on the internet seem torn about if you need to use ddu or not, any chance you guys can give me an answer?

[ashen spindle]

You can’t measure how much it’s adding and compare that but you can say it is adding and it’s x% of the base fps or something

Just DDU anyway

[fair gull]

ye just ddu

[mint skiff]

Then when it comes to ddu, best use safe mode or will i be fine without it?

[reef patrol]

Always use DDU when changing GPUs, even within the same brand.

I never use safe mode personally, or reboot.

[mint skiff]

first time upgrading in the same pc, which is why i wanted to know

So i'm guessing, use ddu, shutdown, replace gpu, startup and install new drivers?

[fair gull]

hm ok good to know i guess

like i said i basically took them as the latency for click/press to action so when the usb packet arrives at the end of the cord

[ashen spindle]

I guess that would just be the latency of the input device

[fair gull]

well yes input latency

the latency of wlel the input

at least to me the rest is already an unknown by usb controller, os and software you use to determine the latency

they all add extra time

[ashen spindle]

Then nobody would say get higher fps for better input latency

[nimble canopy]

Hardware unboxed numbers

cyber punk
47 ms @ 72 fps
62.6 @ 112

15.6 ms added  33% 

flight sim
60 ms @ 60 fps
72.7 @ 126

12.7ms added  21%

f1 22
35.2 ms @ 130 fps
46.5 @ 169

11.3 ms added  32%

this does make it look that the latency is from it delaying the frame but sample size to low

[fair gull]

thats why i was quite confused but thoguht its just them misunderstanding the measurement

guess i was the one wrong

but thanks for edumacating me yall

[cursive summit]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/grab-the-brand-new-amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-cpu-to-upgrade-your-old-ryzen-pc-for-249233

Waiting for GN benchmarks

But if it actually is like 240 euros, I would consider it since 5800X3D doesn't fall below 300 barrier

[old marlin]

it's 20€ price difference here

[cursive summit]

Oh shit it's available here too

270 euros

Yeah I'd rather buy the 800X3D

[old marlin]

totally worth it

[cursive summit]

Why's the 5800X3D still 300 euros

Gimme 250

At this point it's more likely to buy AM5 and Zen 5

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Brotli-G-1.0-SDK

What is this for

Linux specific?

Will AMD suddenly become better at media encode and decode?

[ashen spindle]

Read it and click on links in the article like the original announcement and it says what it’s used for

[cursive summit]

That, again, doesn't explain anything

Yes it specifies the functionality

Not in what use cases

[raw zephyr]

it says what is brotli used for in the second sentence

[cursive summit]

Again, where

Web browsers? Linux? Windows?

Where would you use this

[raw zephyr]

hope this helps

[crude bluff]

i9 13900k 3090 @dull axle

[dull axle]

Thats alright a 13th gen, least ur not suffering like me im ditching intel for AMD's 7950XD CPU and im running the 3080

[crude bluff]

stream pc has a i7 11700k and 3080ti

[raw zephyr]

why are you getting the 7950x3d?

[dull axle]

phasing out

From the intel 12th gen

[raw zephyr]

no like, do you need those extra cores?

[dull axle]

Yes

[raw zephyr]

makes sense then

hopefully they fix the affinities one day

[dull axle]

im seeing if i wanna get the gen 8 or not

since INTEL MB's u gotta throw the gens away and then swap a new one each time a new gen CPU comes out

not viable

[raw zephyr]

yeah i went from 9900k to the 7800x3d and it's great

[dull axle]

Yea it is way better

[old marlin]

for what do you need them

[dull axle]

a bit of blender work

and gaming

[old marlin]

well

[dull axle]

Altough is overkill

[old marlin]

for gaming they will do nothing

ig in blender they could be useful

[old marlin]

like they get straight up parked

[dull axle]

not rlly the specs ive checked in the benchmarks are q reasonable ig

[old marlin]

which means they do nothing

vs a 7800x3d

[dull axle]

o yea cuz the extra cores would be less rendered compared to the 8 core and 16 threads

[old marlin]

No like they get straight up disabled for games

[dull axle]

wat no way

[old marlin]

has to do with how the extra cache is tied to the cores

only have the cores have access to it

so they disable the ones that don't have the access for games

otherwise you'd have a horrible experience in games

also not aware of a good blender benchmark

cause realistically you will not render on cpu

and that is the only thing that people seem to bench

even though your CPU will usually only get tasked a lot in simulations or denoising

[dull axle]

Yea true and ive been seeing the gaming benches tho

[old marlin]

yes

in gaming it is basically 1:1 7800x3d

just like

don't buy the 7900x3d

[dull axle]

i mean it is 1:1 but theres only a slighy 3% increment

ur not wrong there

[steady sail]

And im happily upgraded my cpu from a 2600x to a 5800x3d :3

[thick elk]

That seems like a decent enough upgrade.

[steady sail]

7000 series is too expensive in Hungary

[dull axle]

mines alright

considering im not upping my GPU

Theres gonna be a bottleneck but not so much

[thick elk]

It's just a slot in replacement, seems like a relatively easy choice.

[steady sail]

I went from 30% bottleneck to 0%

[dull axle]

Yea so im thinking on waiting on the GPU RTX 50 series or a discounted 40

once the 50 comes

[steady sail]

Im gonna go with either RX 8000 series or 9000 series thats what i thinking or maybe a cheaper 40 series

[dull axle]

get the 8k series

or 9k

There shld be discounts

[steady sail]

Yeah that’s my plan

The 6700 XT gonna be good for a few more years anyway

[cursive summit]

According to what

[steady sail]

Overall benchmarks that i did myself

Like in mw3 2023 i went from 80-90fps to 200 stable

I mean my 2600X was weak xd

Even in cp77 i went from 50 fps to 80fps

Without RT on high preset 1080p

• i had ram errors with my 2600x

Any higher mhz than 2400 was a no go xd

[atomic nimbus]

What is a very good wireless mouse for gaming?

[timber mantle]

What's your hand size, grip style & budget?

[atomic nimbus]

I don't think I can measure my hand right now but it's slightly smaller than a G402

Like when I place my hand on it so there is a like 1 cm gap to where my fingers reach

and my grip style is basically holding the mouse on the back and let my wrist lay directly on the table

[atomic nimbus]

palm grip

[timber mantle]

Ah

What do you currently have?

A G402?

[atomic nimbus]

a g402 xd

yeah

[timber mantle]

Mkay

2 secs

[atomic nimbus]

The budget won't matter because I wanna head towards something that could help me improve overall gaming experience

even if I don't have enough I am still getting the money for anything

[timber mantle]

When you say your finger is 1 cm shorter than the mouse, is that the top or the bottom. I assume top as tho you're using it correct?

[atomic nimbus]

yeah

[timber mantle]

Just trying to figer a rough idea

Can you do that on the bottom? The reason I ask is that the listed dimensions are going to be longer that way

[timber mantle]

Does that make sense?

[atomic nimbus]

Is this helpful?

[timber mantle]

Mmm kinda.

If I were to guess based purely on the image I'd bet your hand is between 13 & 13.5 CM

[atomic nimbus]

I wish I had a measuring tape rn

[timber mantle]

AGain, that'd be a guess.

No worries. As long as we're reasonably close we should be able to find something.

[atomic nimbus]

Cool

so basically 13-14 cm

[timber mantle]

Roughly

I'd also add, again based solely on the image, that you actually use a claw as it appears you arch your fingers.

[atomic nimbus]

Btw weight makes no difference to me because I train my wrists and fingers often so I can't tell a difference in those

[timber mantle]

But that might just be the angle

[atomic nimbus]

Oh yeah it kinda does

Sometimes I would go claw

but I usually just rest my hand

[thick elk]

Just wondering from that image, do you user your right mouse button with your ring finger

[atomic nimbus]

yeah

middle for middle clicking

[timber mantle]

Logi makes some huge mice relative to other OEMs so most options are going to be a bit smaller, but will likely give you better control.

[thick elk]

Nice a fellow 1-3-1 user.

[atomic nimbus]

Epic

[atomic nimbus]

cool

So which ones should I pick?

[timber mantle]

Well, are you looking for something ergo or ambidextrous

Ergos are humped on one side and your hand covers more, ambi is more centered so you make slightly less contact.

[atomic nimbus]

Lemme look those up

[timber mantle]

I'd also recommend www.eloshapes.com

You can get an idea of the dimensional differences a bit.

[thick elk]

Just from personal experience not all mice are well suited for a 1-3-1 grip, often you want some place in the middle beyond the scroll wheel to rest your middle finger, at least I do.

[atomic nimbus]

Thanks guys

Very appreciated information

[timber mantle]

Yup. Happy to help. I'd also recommend the r/mousereview subreddit.

Multiple YT channels as well dedicated to the new releases so there's a ton of info and content out there.

[atomic nimbus]

I don't use reddit but imma bookmark it so I can check it out when I do go visit

[timber mantle]

Broadly speaking, I'd suggest one of the smaller brands such as Lamzu, Pulsar, Endgame Gear over the bigger players simply because they tend to try new things more frequently.

[atomic nimbus]

Ah okay

[timber mantle]

Razer, Logi, SS etc tend to rehash/not update as frequently as the smaller ones. The trade off is that the big brands are everywhere.

[atomic nimbus]

Interesting

Imma check out the smaller brands too I guess

https://www.amazon.com/Ergonomic-Mouse-Vertical-Wireless-Rechargeable/dp/B07BFCVJZC/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=Ergonomic+Ambidextrous+Mouse&qid=1706803544&sr=8-4

[thick elk]

G305 may also be an interesting option for being relatively affordable. Personally the wired variant suited my grip quite well and it seems somewhat similar to yours.

[atomic nimbus]

This is the weirdest mouse I have ever seen

[atomic nimbus]

Oh yeah I can get those locally

[thick elk]

Those ergo mice serve a good purpose, for people with a mouse arm. Just not a first pick for gaming.
Still I know people who greatly benefitted from having them.

[atomic nimbus]

That's awesome

Well imma go through the recommended options you guys gave, might even get several of these kind

[steady sail]

And im still waiting for the pure air from Roccat

Tho im so used to the kone xp air by now

[thick elk]

Using a Roccat burst pro for a couple of years now, mostly fine, just a shit mmb switch / switch setup.
If I wanted to I could have had mine replaced twice in 2 years.

[atomic nimbus]

I'm checking that mouse out now too

[thick elk]

It's wired, but they do have a wireless variant.

[old marlin]

Don't buy the wireless

It sucks

Updated one should release in like 4 months

[atomic nimbus]

Okay

[steady sail]

Yeah the pure series should release in april or may

[atomic nimbus]

I'll wait for those

[old marlin]

It's released in asia

Western release is in april

Because they rebrand it there

[thick elk]

But yea, if you use mmb a lot on the original burst pro it quite constently died for me.
Basically first time rma asked me to cut the cord (after which I repaired the old one).
Second time I didn't bother to rma and replaced it myself.

[steady sail]

Yeah i know that

[old marlin]

It's good btw

Sensor delay is comparable to razer 2khz wireless

[atomic nimbus]

Where do I get one of those

[steady sail]

Meanwhile i cant even tell the difference between 125hz polling and 1000hz xd

[old marlin]

Amazon.jp

[atomic nimbus]

Okay good thanks

[thick elk]

Might be less suitable for your grip style though going from my own experience

[old marlin]

Yea it certainly is a unique shape

[atomic nimbus]

I'm probably gonna buy a few types of mouse

[old marlin]

Also "pure air" is an absolute shit name

[steady sail]

I mean the kone shape is great for palm grip

[atomic nimbus]

If I don't like it I can give it to my little brother as a gift

[old marlin]

It's the kone pure shape tho

It's smaller

[dull axle]

isnt that grip good not just for palm

[thick elk]

He is like me using a 1-3-1 grip which changes a few things.

[dull axle]

im p certain its good for clawing

[old marlin]

Yea

But also it still has some weird shape features

[dull axle]

i mean its like the zowie

[old marlin]

Which can make it odd to some people

"the zowie"

[dull axle]

and i remember a few mouse shapes try and adopt a hybrid

[steady sail]

Yeah i do that as well while using palm grip xd

[old marlin]

Zowie has like 8 or 9 shapes at this point

[steady sail]

Oh wait im stupid XD

[old marlin]

Depends on if you count the es

[steady sail]

Im using 1-2-2 xdddd

[old marlin]

I do 1-2-2

[thick elk]

For me at leat, I know I am projecting but what else can I do.
The important parts are having a relatively flat right side, and having a bridge between the mouse buttons to rest my middle finger.

[dull axle]

I just run a good old claw

[atomic nimbus]

If I achieve 4th dimensional mouse grip the shape or form won't matter

[old marlin]

New pure has a slightly different right side just fyi

[dull axle]

i just run the shroud g303

[old marlin]

Literally only thing i am not sure about yet

[dull axle]

i used to run the viper v2 pro tho

[old marlin]

Shroud g303 is such a stupid product

Idk why they just changed the dimensions on it

[dull axle]

Biggy hands

thats why

[old marlin]

Yea but even shroud dislikes it

[dull axle]

not rlly

he said he liked it

[old marlin]

He prefers the original shape tho

[dull axle]

when did shroud say that

tho

[old marlin]

A while ago

[dull axle]

im p certain he did a rendition with them

[thick elk]

just how I grip from the front for reference

[old marlin]

New one is just stupid wide

[old marlin]

Wdym

[atomic nimbus]

Literally meee

[dull axle]

Nvm im wrong

Cuz i remembered he liked them till u said he didnt like them

[old marlin]

How did the patterned sides hold up

[dull axle]

and then i thought cuz he runs logitech

[dull axle]

The TenZ grip

LOL

[old marlin]

Lol

[thick elk]

The paterned sides hold up fine

[old marlin]

Huh

Mime wore in a few weeks

Liked them initially

[dull axle]

But for my case idm the heavier mouse or a claw grip cuz thats what i used for the viper v2 pro

but the butt of the v2 pro is too low for me

Everytime i flick i have initial slow downs

Not cuz i sit on the butt of it but when u flick with it and then u gotta stop to deliever a shot and then stop thats when being too light can throw u off

[thick elk]

never herd of the term tenz grip, before, this is just how I have gripped since for ever, just the most natural for me.

[dull axle]

Esp if ur used to fighting or overflicking

[dull axle]

TenZ runs that grip if i am not wrong

[dull axle]

i refer it to the tenZ grip cuz thats what i saw the first time seeing that grip

[thick elk]

Its nice to see at least some validation that my grip is not complete garbage as it was pretty rare, reading the difference seems to be that I rest my middle finger on the mouse rather than lift it.

[dull axle]

If i ever run that grip i usually wouldnt lift the MM

Since my G303 has a way where if u rest on it, it won't get in the way for activation

unless u move it slightly when during intense fights

But then again if i compare the v2 to the g303 tho

Id make the v2 my go to for lighter situations for endurance While the g303 has a perfect claw grip which i require hence if i train id get more endurance so the trade off in terms of hybrid grip

id say G303 wins in terms of the v2 since the v2 has some way of where when u grip you'd get an hand ache with no proper support cuz its too low

[thick elk]

I have used a g203 in the past, it's a nice and controllable mouse for me, just less comfortable at rest and I don't play competitive anyway.

[dull axle]

Esp for claw grippers

[dull axle]

i try too go compet esp on a relaxed setting to think better

[thick elk]

It's not that the burst pro is much worse so no need to use anything else personally.

[atomic nimbus]

I saw a man play Minecraft with a split keyboard and used his right side of the keyboard instead of the mouse

[dull axle]

if u ask me idm any mouse so long as it has the required support and not too aggressive on lowering

The muscle memory and training i can train it up within 3 hrs and id alrdy fit right in

[astral haven]

@gusty kiln
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_acknowledges_galaxy_s24_color_issues_fix_incoming_soon-news-61427.php
seems its a bug

[steady sail]

Anyway can someone recommend me some 1440p monitors ?
I have been looking at this LG UltraGear 27GR75Q-B

[gusty kiln]

hopefully soon since yesterday was the official release date. Did you get your's yet?

[astral haven]

nah i preordered late, arriving end of the month

[gusty kiln]

oof

[astral haven]

the rumors of xperia using digital zooming didnt come till late :/

[gusty kiln]

tough market when you actually care about camera quality/experience

[astral haven]

yea 😦

[gusty kiln]

I just wanted the premium build and spec

also sharp corners

sharp corners makes the phone feel more premium

[astral haven]

apparently tho sony is revamping xperia next year, so in 2-3 years when im next in the market for a phone, we will know more

[gusty kiln]

I think apple is the only one who can make rounded corners look good

[gusty kiln]

hopefully they don't abandon smart phone by then

unless they are carefully sized just for the japanese market

[astral haven]

they used to be alot more popular in the eu, hopefully they will make a real attempt to comeback before they give up

[gusty kiln]

really hard nowadays, it's apple/samsung/google, then all the chinese brands

[dull axle]

Im p certain chinese branded Global ROM's

has a lot of malwaree

and some of them are needed so that they can operate

[gusty kiln]

most likely, but people don't care because of the price/perf

[dull axle]

at the cost of their own privacy

[gusty kiln]

especially in the EU

[dull axle]

which no one knows or care

[gusty kiln]

in the US it's kinda hard to get chinese brands other than OnePlus

and technically Motorola

[astral haven]

lenovo is very chinese

[gusty kiln]

yeah, just dunno where the actual motorola office is located nowadays

[thick elk]

yes but Lenovo as a company is not completley centralized in china

[astral haven]

rip

[gusty kiln]

they've been bought/sold so many times

yeah owned by chinese, but still american office

lenovo is based in Hong Kong, so that makes it a bit better

[thick elk]

Either way the situation is different from a Xiaomi for example

[astral haven]

thats logical tho, and chinese scaremongering isnt logical, so its still bad

[thick elk]

Also didn't know the choice in phones was worse in the US.

[astral haven]

yup

we actually banned some smartphone makers entirely

[thick elk]

Makes sort of sense with Android not being dominant.

[gusty kiln]

it's like Apple, Samsung, small google, then everyone else

motorola is popular at the low end

[astral haven]

"popular"

[gusty kiln]

kek

I mean they are giving 120hz screens at $200

not too bad

[astral haven]

good value sure, but i dont see them that often

[thick elk]

Can't say in terms of sales volume it's much different in the netherlands.
Just looking at the largest online store, the only non apple, google or samsung phone in the top 10 is a low-end motorola

[gusty kiln]

they are perfect phones to give your older parents

[astral haven]

tbh the most common phone that i see in person outside of the big 3 is still LG

[gusty kiln]

https://www.counterpointresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Counterpoint-Research-US-Smartphone-Market-Share-Q3-2023.png

[astral haven]

thats sales not usage tho

[gusty kiln]

true, but still interesting

crazy lenovo/motorola outselling google the past year

[thick elk]

Huawei had some decent market share until it got nuked. here

[dull axle]

It happens

[dull axle]

in Singapore we got a wide range

but i think we vet them b4 they are sent in

under PDPA and PDPC

[gusty kiln]

man singapore is great for consumer electronics

[dull axle]

Which is the GDPR

Law equivelant

[dull axle]

Yes and no

[gusty kiln]

for availbility

[dull axle]

1 is a mess 2 foreigners pay a bit more than average singaporeans in Sim Lim Square

LOL

[dull axle]

Thats 4 sure i got the Moon Drop IEM's for a good price

[gusty kiln]

yeah dedicated audio stores are few and far in between in the US

even stores just for mechanical keyboards

[thick elk]

Audio stores that exist in the netherlands are mostly catered to the audiophool.

[dull axle]

Ours here are not that bad for mice saturation

Only thing that is saturated here is the Tax LOOL

[gusty kiln]

kek yeah

singapore is rather high CoL

[thick elk]

generally for most things if you want to go outside the absolute mainstream online is where you should be.

[dull axle]

I mean Europe and US as well

[gusty kiln]

well both US and EU are much larger than singapore, CoL vary wildly

depending on where in the US/EU

[dull axle]

Yea ig

[gusty kiln]

you can basically get a mansion for 300-500k, but you'll be in the middle of bumfuck no where in the US

[dull axle]

Thats like 800K SGD here

i got my landed and waiting on its move date on april or may to see what i can do

for like 1.3mil+

3.1*

But either way CoL is a lot and what not

[dull axle]

Ekther ur land is hella big not like here

Either way*

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/318587/lamptron-st060-dual-tower-air-cooler-sports-full-hd-6-inch-screen

$300

[balmy vector]

When in doubt give it a screen

[halcyon moss]

Lol screens on coolers

[willow moss]

Did anyone else receive their wooting keyboard with something rolling around inside?

I searched for the question but couldn't find anything similar

I swear it's like a curse

I got 2 pairs of different headsets some time ago, they had the same issue

they were cheap so I just took them apart, and in booth of them there was just a small piece of round metal or plastic that looked like some debris from the factory machines or smth

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258 add some picture or something and people can take a look

[willow moss]

Thanks for the headsup, already did though

I would take this keyboard apart too, but I'm too afraid that if it's something important (like a microchip or whatever) and I find techicall issues with the keyboard later on I won't be able to get a replacement

[ashen spindle]

generally they are quite open when it comes to warranty in such cases and if you already made a post there just wait till someone gets around to look at it

[reef patrol]

Open it up and look inside?

[willow moss]

Wouldn't that void the warranty?

[reef patrol]

I just replied in your thread. And no.

[willow moss]

0-0

[reef patrol]

Not if literal staff asks you to 😄

(Or in general)

We are modding friendly.

[willow moss]

Thank you, I'll take a look right now.

I'll put my camera on stand and record the whole process just in case I find something unpleasant and need proof

[glacial glade]

Any mouse recommendations?

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-bobsburgers-bobs-burgers-turkey-gif-25299310

[gusty kiln]

https://ninjutso.com/products/katana-superlight-wireless-professional-gaming-mouse

modern clone

[cursive summit]

Where are such prices in EU, come on

[willow moss]

I found the issue with the noise from the keyboard, they knew I was clumsy so they slipped in an extra screw under the PCB just in case

Well, at least that's what I think it is

[ashen spindle]

thats the same price as in the eu though?

[cursive summit]

It is not

[thick elk]

It's a bit more expensive than in the netherlands though:

In germany, the uk is a tiny bit cheaper.

this is less if you exclude vat

$270 *1.21 = EUR 298.96

or the other way around $ 255.88

[fickle ore]

Meta dividend

[thick elk]

yea, just saying that the european prices include vat which is substancial. in the Netherlands 21%

[cursive summit]

Germany

Yeah that's not what I have in mind when I say "EU"

[ashen spindle]

literally just the first listings of a price aggregator site

and as qlums howed netherlands are about the same

[cursive summit]

320 on amazon, 300 on local sellers

Eh, 288 on computeruniverse but shipping makes it more than local listings

317 on caseking

[ashen spindle]

ok so the uk listing is like 9% cheaper than your local seller than

that's not a big difference

[cursive summit]

Jesus, 399€ on LDLC

[cursive summit]

That is actually cheaper though with shipping that what I would pay locally

I am hoping it'll be 250 at some point but 270 or so is a major improvement over 300

That's like an actually good CPU cooler price difference

[ashen spindle]

oh earnings today? didnt catch them was it looking good?

oh jesus 12% up after hours

[fickle ore]

:D:D

pretty good

• they announced a dividend

mature company ig

[ashen spindle]

did they say how much?

[blazing hatch]

I love nvda

holy shit meta jumped

i wonder if any senators brought before the spike

[fickle ore]

It was like 2$ per share

[ashen spindle]

oh nice need to check how much im holding atm

[cursive summit]

0.5% of share price?

[fickle ore]

Yea

[cursive summit]

Unless you invest a whole crap ton of money, those dividends don't amount for much

[fickle ore]

That's fine

[ashen spindle]

no but if you have them and you get dividends as well as a 12% price jump it's a nice bonus

[blazing hatch]

reinvest it free money

[fickle ore]

FCF is king

[cursive summit]

How exactly are dividends distributed, yearly or monthly?

[fickle ore]

anywhere from monthly, to quarterly, to bi-yearly and yearly

[cursive summit]

Well, what about Meta's?

[fickle ore]

the 0.5% is for year, so divide by times is how much you get if they pay quarterly

[cursive summit]

Lol what

[fickle ore]

paying more times compounds faster

[cursive summit]

So you have to invest 77000$ or thereabouts for it to get back you a single share value back a year?

That's insane

[fickle ore]

Sounds about right

[cursive summit]

So just a megarich people thing

[fickle ore]

Well you don't get META for ýield hehe. If you want a lot of cash you buy a stock that yields 5-10%. For example, if you bought meta at 90$ the YOC (yield on cost) would be 2% not 0.5%. And usually dividends are increased each year so in 10-20 you might be getting 5 % already

The 0.5% is for 440 $

Yields are lower for growth stocks

[ashen spindle]

it for long time stock stuff not daytrading people wanting to make much cash in one year

so it's not any more for rich people than stocks inherently are already

[fickle ore]

Yea. It helps to think a div here and there pays for one groceries bag

Satisfying feel to be shopping in march on zuckerberg's tab 😄

[cursive summit]

Meta isn't a bad investment tbf

Lots of tech there rn

[cursive summit]

https://gamevro.com/sony-working-on-new-playstation-handheld-ps4-ps5-title/

Well I damn hope so

Portal can die

PSP2 next

[zenith silo]

is this ai?

[pale sigil]

This is what AI has done to us 😅

Everything that looks even a little weird screams AI when it isn't.

[mild dome]

Imagine how bad it's gonna be when you need to explain to your old folks that the pictures, sounds, articles, and videos they are getting might be faked using an advanced statistical model given a prompt

"But the picture was of Joe Biden eating a baby!"
"Gran it's not real, the baby has a second thumb"

[zenith silo]

yeah its sad

genuinely couldnt tell if it was real life because the lighting looked weird

[analog sinew]

enough of them believed it already tbh

[cursive summit]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/01/zoom-layoffs-company-cuts-150-employees-2percent-of-workforce.html

How many employees does Zoom have?

[reef patrol]

Everyone's firing these days. Paypal too.

[cursive summit]

150 is only 2%?

That's insane for a company that on the surface does nothing more than hosting online meetings

[old marlin]

wtf

does every employee manage their own host or something

[digital cliff]

yeah sounds like a super heavy org but I guess they must have other divisions too

[cursive summit]

Unironically, what is this, and can I yeet it cause it's massive

[smoky frigate]

virtual memory, you can disable it though it's not recommended

[umbral heron]

Both pagefile and swapfile are, swapfile for Windows/UWP things, pagefile for the rest

[cursive summit]

Oh god this is a violation https://hard-drive.net/hd/ian-miles-cheong-first-recipient-of-neuralink-thanks-to-inherently-low-risk-of-damaging-intellect/

"thanks to the inherently low risk that drilling into his brain would damage anything functional anyways"

[novel magnet]

LMAO

[misty saffron]

should somebody tell him?

[umbral heron]

Hm? #🐸│memes message

[cursive summit]

Ah come on I don't check meme rage that often

Didn't even know this Cheong guy existed, glad they are getting cooked though, they look nonfunctional

[umbral heron]

He's basically Andrew Tate, but hit with a hammer so he has no charisma at all
Basically another far-right-wing shit-stirrer

[frozen ingot]

that's the joke

[smoky frigate]

I'm not inclined to believe that the people following these personalities are inherently stupid, BUT, couldn't they at least be following somebody who is funny

[reef patrol]

You'd need to be a Twitter user.

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

I am glad I'm only a semi-twitter user

[analog sinew]

I'm glad I'm only semi-addicted to fentanyl

[pale sigil]

I didn't either but it was immediately obvious xd

[severe phoenix]

I consume about 10 mg a day

[crisp granite]

I'm not addicted to fentanyl
I just ironically take it when I'm socialising because I'm just quirky that way

[cursive summit]

A coke gram a day keeps the depression away

[crisp granite]

nothing like a ten dollar death trip while getting a hazelnut cum latte with anti chafing dolphin milk with the girls

before we get our claws done hehe

[cursive summit]

Ayo, what https://betanews.com/2024/01/31/windows-7-returns-with-the-stunning-2024-edition/

Does this run on 11 or 7 engine

Of course it's fake news, it's a concept image not a real thing

[ashen spindle]

wow someone read an article for once

[cursive summit]

Suck a cock

[reef patrol]

Wouldn't be difficult to take 11 and reskin it to 7 while blocking updates and data collection.

[cursive summit]

I got hyped I could go back to 7 for a bit

Win7 was just pinnacle of usability imo

Good times

[reef patrol]

Never fell in love with 7. XP on the other hand.

7 had those obnoxious widgets that were pushed hard.

[pale sigil]

You mean like 11 did with 10

[astral haven]

11 does in fact make some changes

[reef patrol]

Not many on the consumer side at least.

I'd honestly still be using 10, if they didn't lock some gaming shit to 11 without hacks.

I'm running a mostly 10 UI, because 11 forces a ton of weird and obnoxious shit on the UI side.

Like a start menu that's more recommendations than content. Can't disable that fully without hacks.

[astral haven]

major improvements have been made to settings

[pale sigil]

I'm a sucker for new stuff

So I had to

[cursive summit]

I never gave 8 a try, and that was actually a big experiment from Microsoft's part

I wonder if 8.1 is nice

Like out of all the OS's, 8 was I think a pretty big leap in what they wanted it to look like

Then they just went back to old formula with 10

[astral haven]

control panel is almost entirely done, with some improvements to multimonitor, sound, and networking

[pale sigil]

8.1 was awesome

8 was over hated

[astral haven]

well 8 flat was rather annoying to use

[pale sigil]

Wasn't perfect for sure... But the hate was ridiculous.

It was a weird choice for sure

[astral haven]

it was certainly a phone first ui

[pale sigil]

Like really really weird

I wish 11 had a tab UI system like 8

For tablets I mean

[astral haven]

a what now?

[cursive summit]

Does it not?

[pale sigil]

Sorry, I mean I wish they brought the whole tile stuff and start menu from 8 to 11 but in tablet mode.s

[cursive summit]

There's that whole feature in Windows which I never used once where you can make separate desktops or something

[reef patrol]

The full screen one?

[pale sigil]

The tablet experience in 11 Is poop

[reef patrol]

Oofda.

[astral haven]

you mean the one they did bring?

[pale sigil]

What?

[cursive summit]

Tbf from what I've seen in images, Windows 8 looked actually pretty nice

[pale sigil]

It really was

[cursive summit]

I guess with death of Windows Phone they just abandoned it

[pale sigil]

But it was to focussed on their vision to connect everything, phone, Xbox, tablets etc

[cursive summit]

Tbf Microsoft has a lot to gain by re-entering smartphone market

Google did, and they are successful with it

Just need something to make it cool, and no "connect everything" isn't cool

[reef patrol]

They just want to be Apple.

[cursive summit]

Even more so than Samsung?

Apple isn't the best role model to keep copying

It's like the high school's prettiest gal that everyone thirsts for but she has like 10 different STDs

[astral haven]

oh wow i guess they did kill tablet mode officially in 11

[cursive summit]

Why can't Samsung just copy Sony instead, bring back 3.5mm jack, SD card, double IP 65 and 68 cert, good camera software

[astral haven]

but yes in windows 10, there was a mode that automatically fullscreened everything, and had a full screen start menu

now in windows 11 it seems to just remove the taskbar and replace it with swipe gestures, it doesnt force apps to fullscreen tho

[thick elk]

Oh I just noticed touch pad gestures are a thing now in firefox on linux at least. Guess I don't use touchpads much.

[cursive summit]

What's a touchpad

[smoky frigate]

it's a pad that you touch

[cursive summit]

The useless thingy you use maybe once on a laptop?

Since when do laptops have linux

[ashen spindle]

probably more than desktops

[smoky frigate]

neckbeards are all over those thinkpads, god knows why

[cursive summit]

I have never seen linux on a laptop being sold in retail

[smoky frigate]

probably because rms uses one

[old marlin]

because they don't get sold in brick and mortar stores with it

[thick elk]

Netbooks often were sold with linux in the past, back when they were too dog slow to actually use windows.

[old marlin]

but you can order laptops with linux from basically all the big SIs

[ashen spindle]

what you see a desktop being sold with linux in retail instead? lol

[thick elk]

End of the day linux on a laptop is just me installing linux instead of windows.

With desktop there is at least the matter of building your own system with no operating system preinstalled.

[smoky frigate]

system76 specializes in linux laptops and their OS is really good

outdated now but they're busy trying to replace gnome (waste of resources imo but okay)

[pale sigil]

And touchscreen

I can't get over how nice a touch screen is with windows

Or well laptops in general

[astral haven]

its actually kinda crazy how windows is now starting to pass ipados and android in terms of tablet useability

[pale sigil]

Ye

No

[astral haven]

🤷 ive got access to all 3 and ive been using windows the most

multitasking on ipados and android is quite painful, and neither have particularly great options for gestures

[thick elk]

Speaking of random linux, always nice to follow crashing info screens.
Seems this one used a video stream in vlc using cinnamon as the desktop environment. Not one I have often seen.
Considering it crashed probably not the best option.

Tablet pc use on linux is still quite meh, at least on kde

biggest gripe for me is the on-screen keyboard. While it does get supported more often it does not support function keys / customization and just doesn't pop-up / dismis nicely.

But even there steps are being made.

[astral haven]

thats another big improvement in 11

[thick elk]

End of the day probably the main roadblock is application support. Not something anyone but the developer of said program can do anything about.

[astral haven]

i find it hard to believe that ios or android would add something like this however

[thick elk]

Those seem pretty nice.

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-new-cheap-gaming-chip-is-25-faster-than-intels-more-expensive-alternative-ryzen-7-5700x3d-is-faster-than-core-i5-13600kf-in-early-reviews-even-on-aging-am4-platform

Weird benchmarks but I'm all for Intels ass getting kicked

Why 13th gen though

Is i5-14600 an upgrade over 13600?

[ashen spindle]

14th gen is literally the same

[cursive summit]

As I'd expect

Only the 14700 has any meaningful changes over previous gen as far as I remember reading

[ashen spindle]

but also 5700x3d you should never buy, don't buy am4 new and if you upgrade there is almost no place that has the 5800x3d not in similar price range

[cursive summit]

Tbf I was thinking of buying 5800X3D to slot instead of my 5600

But with Zen 5 soon to launch, I'd be way behind in performance

[willow moss]

Is there any way to set rgb lighting on some keys, while the others remain static? Maybe I'm just blind and didn't notice the option in the software

[unkempt lake]

You can make different rgb layers on the right of the keyboard's picture

Make 2 different layers, one for the keys you want an effect on and one for ststic

[willow moss]

Oh so that's what those are for

Thank you

Man, I look so dumb now

:))

[unkempt lake]

Nahhh

Ur good

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle just 200 billion overnight

[halcyon moss]

what did they do

[fickle ore]

idk lol

[ashen spindle]

bigger earnings and better outlook, including dividends

and heavy ai focus so current market eats the hype

[fickle ore]

Somehow DAU's were up for Facebook and Instagram kek

[gusty kiln]

lol AMD pretty much recovered all the loss from ER

nvidia obviously about to hit 700 as well

[sharp badger]

Should've bought Meta stocks in 2022 but it's easy to be afterwise 😅

Hamilton hyped the Ferrari stonks

[gusty kiln]

AMD P/E is now 338, what was it before?

[fickle ore]

I did but wayyy too little. Kicking myself

[sharp badger]

Well on to the next one

[ashen spindle]

idk because I never know which P/E people are looking at

some were 90 some were 1000

and too many sites dont mentiond which one it is

or just dont update

[cursive summit]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/01/metas-reality-labs-loses-4point65-billion-in-q4-ahead-of-vision-pro.html

Price of R&D

But for what reason

The metaverse thing very much isn't successful

Maybe a thing for the future

Meta would prolly have the leading edge tech with how much they spent on research IF augmented reality ever takes off

So far I don't see signs it will

[gusty kiln]

ayo wtf, supermicro went from 300 to 580 this month alone

I can see them doing a stock split, only 32B marketcap

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/wxlHq_EuxFU

[prisma obsidian]

Does anyone know if the Gateron KS-20 work with a Wooting TKL that still has the Flaretech switches? If not are there any switches that would work?

[cursive summit]

KS-20 should definitely not work with One or Two boards

There were a few flaretech alternatives though few years back

Don't remember any of their names lel

[crisp granite]

there were none that worked like the flaretech

[cursive summit]

All it has to do is just be analog lel

[crisp granite]

most just blocked a beam of light running horizontally
Flaretechs use a prism to force analog, reflecting to a sensor facing downwards

[cursive summit]

Tbf flaretechs can still be on sale somewhere

Just buy that or an HE

[crisp granite]

can, but aren't

the one other board I know of that used flaretechs isn't being made anymore
best bet is buying the switches or a donor board used

[prisma obsidian]

Yeah i already had a convo with the supp from wooting, they only have a small amount left for repairs..
the thing is i like tkl or 75% keyboards, maaaybe the 1800 compacts, but since wooting only has 60% or 100%, thats all i got haha

[prisma obsidian]

yep, looked everywhere, even the flaretech ones from adomax arent sold anymore

may have to go with the donor board route

[crisp granite]

wooting is making a 75%
right now
check their site

the "80HE"

I'd hold onto your current board if you can till then
once preorders open, get in

[prisma obsidian]

ouh shit, overlooked the Q2 2024 thanks!!

[cursive summit]

That's not a 75%

[crisp granite]

clean your glasses
look again

[cursive summit]

80% is like, actually a better form factor than either TKL or 75%

[crisp granite]

TKL is 80%

[prisma obsidian]

nah tkl is tkl

[cursive summit]

Yeah that's not really how that is

80% is slimmer than TKL, less keys

[prisma obsidian]

the 80he looks hot

[cursive summit]

Bigger than 75%, by.. 2 keys I think?

80% unironically combines benefits of both 75 and TKL, it's a great form factor

People just be bitching for no reason

[crisp granite]

Vexxsie...the TKL and 80% monikers are interchangeable, they mean the same thing

considering 75% isn't an existing standard, wooting is free to mess around with it as they please
and they did

[cursive summit]

Source, please

[crisp granite]

search up any keyboard guide out there
they will list TKL and 80% as interchangeable

Keychron, TKC, Hardware Canucks, etc

[cursive summit]

Apparently it's also sometimes called 87%

That's like, a wide range of nomenclatures for the same thing

[crisp granite]

80% equating to TKL is the norm and most commonly accepted

[cursive summit]

Although I did read somewhere 80HE is like.. 78% functionally?

Or something like that

Whatever form factor it is cause I couldn't give less of a crap, it's good

[crisp granite]

300%
I still won't buy it

it's not a full size

[cursive summit]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1agxn7h/have_a_great_day/

This makes me angry

Idk why, but this is rage inducing

[cursive summit]

Idk if I need a full keyboard anymore, been on Wooting TKL for 4 odd years now

Never reaching for a numpad anymore, though I think I miss its existence

[crisp granite]

remind me not to play Arma with you

[cursive summit]

Prolly would go with a full size after the One breaks

[cursive summit]

Do not play Arma with me

Idk how you knew though

[timber mantle]

I've never played Arma

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nordenson-gif-19287964

[crisp granite]

because we did once

it was fun

[cursive summit]

We.. did not

[crisp granite]

you sucked

it was a while ago

[cursive summit]

We have not played together like, once

Other than Minecraft I suppose

Bring back WootMC

[digital cliff]

I'm waiting on the 5800x3d to become cheap secondhand

[digital cliff]

in reply to this, discord didn't scroll

[cursive summit]

I doubt it ever will

[digital cliff]

but amd went and made too damn good of a product as it seems not come down in price

[crisp granite]

it will within a few years

[cursive summit]

For the same reason why Radeon 6000 series cards continue to just be at astronomical prices

[crisp granite]

but at that point, why bother

[cursive summit]

Yeah I'll prolly just get Zen 5

[crisp granite]

pretty sure flei scooped up a 6900XT at a good price

[digital cliff]

why bother is because I don't particularly want to pay 300 for a new mobo, 200 for new memory and 400 for a new cpu

[crisp granite]

I feel like I've been called out

[digital cliff]

when I could cop a 5800x3d for something like sub--200€ and be good for another 3 years

[crisp granite]

because that is exactly what I did...late last year

😵‍💫

[cursive summit]

B650s are like 150 though

Memory for 32GBs is 100

CPU will hopefully still be 250 for 6 core

[digital cliff]

that's still more than 200€ or less for the 5800x3d only

[umbral heron]

€230 for 7600X around here

[cursive summit]

And far better performance?

I am talking about Zen 5

Usually X3D of previous gen == 6 core of next gen

So 7800X3D == 9600X, or better cause Zen 5 will prolly be nuts

[umbral heron]

5800X3D == 7600X? A bit of a stretch I think

[cursive summit]

It is actually

It's like 1:1 last I checked

[umbral heron]

[unkempt lake]

Agree with deb fullsize best

[cursive summit]

Deb..?

Fam, it's DEBIL

[crisp granite]

she can't write Debil
it's ok

[unkempt lake]

I can write debil

[cursive summit]

Pay your respects to the one and only

[unkempt lake]

I can also write stupid

[crisp granite]

would you like a medal?

[unkempt lake]

Both appropriate names 😛

Yes

😉

[crisp granite]

I don't celebrate mediocrity

[cursive summit]

@umbral heron

Considerably slower at most titles at 1440p, the X3D vs 7600X

Somehow only 3% lel

It's kinda 1:1 imo

[umbral heron]

Yeah, 3~4% may as well be silicon lottery

So essentially 1:1

[cursive summit]

So yeah if trend continues, 9600X >= 7800X3D

Pricing I hope for the 6 cores stays at <250$

[unkempt lake]

Predictions expext a 20%~ bump for 9000

[cursive summit]

Though I think Zen 5 will be a major leap to the point 9600X will considerably outperform 7800X3D

So, 250ish for mobo + RAM, 250ish for a Zen 5 CPU, and you have a pretty damn good rig

[unkempt lake]

You said I was a dumbdumb for waiting till zen5 like a week ago

[cursive summit]

I need a source for that

[unkempt lake]

Or maybe we misunderstood each other

XD

[crisp granite]

Vexxsie does that

acts like an ass and aloof
but underneath
he's a big softie

[cursive summit]

Tbf I change my opinion like I change my women

Weekly

[unkempt lake]

You sound undecisive

[crisp granite]

he's shockingly decisive

he's too lazy to change course
this is why he's married, happily
from what I've been told

[cursive summit]

Yes, to you of course

[crisp granite]

wait
hold up

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/trapnation-music-aesthetic-beating-visualizer-gif-17121322

If you get it, you get it

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-cringe-cringe-oh-no-kimo-kimmo-gif-23168319

[umbral heron]

[crisp granite]

me when I realised you were...a quebecer

[unkempt lake]

HUSH

[crisp granite]

it's not your fault
you can fix it

[cursive summit]

Quebec? Ew

[crisp granite]

exactly

yuck

[unkempt lake]

;-;

you enjoy talking to me tho

[cursive summit]

What's Quebec though

[umbral heron]

She's like French, but like good French

[crisp granite]

that's a lie I tell the frenchies so they don't think I'm racist hehe
I actually hate their guts

[crisp granite]

a mistake born of a really crappy act in 1774 that wasn't corrected

[unkempt lake]

Exactly ❤️

Calslock good

[cursive summit]

Calslock is Polish, they functionally cannot be good

[unkempt lake]

I disagree

[cursive summit]

Not a matter up for debate

Wilno is not theirs

[umbral heron]

Hush you Lithuanian

[unkempt lake]

VEX IS LITHUANIAN

[digital cliff]

well I mean ok but I can and am willing to only afford 200€ so there's that

[unkempt lake]

OMG

[digital cliff]

for the next 5 years anyway

[smoky frigate]

L-L-LITHUANIAN ??????!!!!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

[cursive summit]

I am not but ok

[unkempt lake]

Yes you are

[cursive summit]

It sounds tasty whatever lithuanian is

[unkempt lake]

Its official

[crisp granite]

||me hoping I don't get called Ruthenian||

[cursive summit]

Shut up you Ruthenian

[crisp granite]

He's actually Estonian
blonde hair, tall
tight ass

🤤

[cursive summit]

Nah I'm Latvian actually

[crisp granite]

...asshole

[cursive summit]

But originally from Finland

Parents from Sweden

Gran from Norway

Aunt somehow from Denmark

[smoky frigate]

so you're russian

[digital cliff]

lies, he's just lithuanian

[crisp granite]

true
but the tight ass thing was completely correct

[cursive summit]

This fuck has my address

[digital cliff]

[umbral heron]

Shush, mine too

[cursive summit]

Fleimi is shaping to be a contraband dealer

[crisp granite]

Flei has my address too
still hasn't visited smh

[digital cliff]

y'all need to be careful 🙊

[unkempt lake]

No one wants to visit me 😦

[crisp granite]

correctemundo

[cursive summit]

Hit up Deb, they will

[crisp granite]

bitch I ain't goin near Quebec

[cursive summit]

Or what's their name, the other Canadian

[unkempt lake]

@crisp granite i'll show you it's not that bad

[fickle ore]

5 hundo for vex adress :3

./s

[cursive summit]

500 cents right?

[crisp granite]

girlypop you're somehow more inbred than I am

I don't want to go there

[unkempt lake]

You can hang out with my cat

Unrestricted access

[cursive summit]

Debil, where's the other canadian gone

[crisp granite]

which one?

there were several

[cursive summit]

The one that used to be here

[crisp granite]

just don't check the basement

or the freezers

[cursive summit]

You know the one that does computer security stuff

[unkempt lake]

Nico used that meat earlier

[umbral heron]

[crisp granite]

oh
crap

um

[cursive summit]

Doxxed

[unkempt lake]

Fuck

[crisp granite]

welp
that's evidence I didn't need to dispose of

thanks

[unkempt lake]

I ate it

[crisp granite]

yeah, I figured that out all by myself
thanks Sherlock

[unkempt lake]

Damn

[cursive summit]

Off to #🐸│memes with you lovebirds, this is my tech channel

[unkempt lake]

@glass stag can i invite friends over

pls

[crisp granite]

I wonder what Nico's response will be when you present such a question to him

something along the lines of "you have friends???"

xD

[cursive summit]

"Cities Skylines 2 dev Paradox"

More like publisher

[crisp granite]

formatting

[unkempt lake]

Basically

[reef patrol]

I immediately spotted that xD

[cursive summit]

Fuck this is tech channel not game talk

[crisp granite]

post deckard copium

[unkempt lake]

This is general chat

[cursive summit]

It's dead, gone, destroyed, eviscerated

Not happening

[crisp granite]

like Dashi's dinner

at least the protein component of

heh

freezer meat

can't even tell what it is

[umbral heron]

It tasted close enough to pork

[glass stag]

Pizza party with Mario party

Although with the 2 of us and zero others, idk if we can finish a big pizza

[unkempt lake]

😦

[cursive summit]

https://www.techpowerup.com/318577/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-gre-oc-lined-up-for-possible-eu-wide-release

If I buy a new GPU, it'll defo be the 7900GRE

[unkempt lake]

worst case we have leftovers

[cursive summit]

Same price as 800XT, better performance

[glass stag]

We can invite the pizza customer service

[crisp granite]

I swear that was the plot of more than one porno

[unkempt lake]

@cursive summit if you come over you can try and steal my 7900xtx

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-tell-me-im-listening-listening-gif-23850121

[cursive summit]

You are hitting on the wrong people

Debil is right there

[unkempt lake]

Deb has a 4080 that won't work

I need everyone over

I'll lure deb with israeli doritos

I'll find some and import them myself

[crisp granite]

oi
a 4080 super ti platinum deluxe piece of shit crapduster

[crisp granite]

say it right or don't say it

[ashen spindle]

wait your 4080 doesnt work? lol

[crisp granite]

I was about to go and get it

so I'll find out pretty damn soon xD

[unkempt lake]

doa

[ashen spindle]

ah

[unkempt lake]

no

[crisp granite]

it takes more than that for me to make a really long trip

to the middle of nowhere

a lot more

even a death in the family was barely enough to qualify for a day trip to Montreal

because Quebec, even Montreal
is that awful

[unkempt lake]

You're just making excuses cuz you don't have a car

Smh

[glass stag]

Montréal is like Denmark

Flat and lifeless

[crisp granite]

I also don't have that much time to spare

such a trip would be at least half a week, day of driving each way

[cursive summit]

Anygoose https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

2024 Jan data is out

[unkempt lake]

It asked me to do it

7900xtx represent

[crisp granite]

anyway, see ya kiddos
Vexxsie, stay cute

Calslock and Flei, keep being awesome

...and the quebecers, please make yourself scarce

[cursive summit]

You are younger than me

[crisp granite]

bye bye