🔌│tech

[umbral heron]

Ubuntu bad because most of the stuff can't be changed with terminal as usual on other distros - Ubuntu wants to do so only though some of its "configurators", and replaces every change made with terminal to previous one

[fair gull]

so... its bad for your usecase

[umbral heron]

Sure, either my usecase, or my habits I got from other distros

[fair gull]

imo all major OSs at the moment are completely fine on their own

also have to say ubuntu must be the one OS trying to become equal to windows/macos for the general population

didnt even know it has those mechanisms to revert configurations etc

[umbral heron]

I think it's more of a failsafe for "if user tries to change something with some command they found on the internet but they're not sure what it does", which is perfectly fine for user-friendly OS

Just not for my usecase

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzegmwHxPM

good shit

[reef patrol]

[umbral heron]

[old marlin]

tl;dw features for handheld/mobile devices got carried over to desktop parts accidentally causing it to underperform in longer workloads

[cursive summit]

https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-gddr7-memory-bandwidth-performance-gpu-amd-nvidia/

That's a pretty big bandwidth jump

But will the bus width still be like, 512 bit at the very max?

4090 is like 384 bit, 1080Ti was 352 bit, it's like the width never really changes

[ashen spindle]

god this going to haunt intel so much harder than we thought

[cursive summit]

@ashen spindleany comments on the GDDR7 tech and bus width never changing?

[ashen spindle]

idk thats not really relevant for consumer products

memory isnt the bottleneck

[fair gull]

and asrock bios options not working

[cursive summit]

We aren't going to see GDDR7 in next gen GPUs?

[ashen spindle]

idk

[cursive summit]

I mean, while you are right that memory isn't the main bottleneck, it still accounts for a very large part of.. FPS, I suppose

80% increased bandwidth would definitely result in two digit performance gains

[ashen spindle]

eh thats mostly for cost optimizing and what not

[fair gull]

didnt we come down from 512bits in the gtx smth era?

[ashen spindle]

you can get most of the performance with previous gen memory

[ashen spindle]

anyway, so about the more cursed news

[cursive summit]

I don't quite understand why the memory bus never increases

Where's 1024 bit bus, is it expensive to do?

[ashen spindle]

anyone want raptor lake refresh refresh?

that's right we might get a 14th gen refresh

[umbral heron]

Even if, 7700XT for example runs on 192-bit one That's kinda sad when compared to what was before

[fair gull]

i think the main reason to increase not increase bus width is specialized controllers and it needs more ram chips iirc

also wasnt there rumors last year or so that the next nvidia flagship will be 512bit bus

[ashen spindle]

for all we know they could make some G7X special memory again, and cut that down as they need

[umbral heron]

Once it was https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au/blog/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-will-have-a-huge-512-bit-memory-bus-faster-gddr6x-memory-2023-review/
Then it wasn't https://www.hwcooling.net/en/geforce-rtx-5090-no-512-bit-bus-but-with-dp-2-1-and-3nm-node/

[cursive summit]

Actually not bad https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/8700g-fortnite-performance

132 FPS is very nice

[ashen spindle]

it doesnt really matter since they can change that quite late and only really matters to not starve the cores

[cursive summit]

49FPS in Baldur's Gate 3 and 41 in 2077 though I think are the real kickers

[fair gull]

let me guess 1080p

[cursive summit]

iGPU gaming is actually proper

[fair gull]

mid settings

[cursive summit]

Strix Halo will be bonkers

[ashen spindle]

it's still cheaper to get a cheap cpu and cheap gpu for same performance

but SFF and similar will be happy

[cursive summit]

Well yes, 1080p med

That's what people usually tend to test iGPUs on nowadays I noticed

[ashen spindle]

and yeah it's more of a run up to whats coming soon-ish

[cursive summit]

Yeah I think that low end GPUs are very much getting endangered

AMD is in a position to manufacture CPUs with the capability of easily running 1080p at all qualities

We'll see if AMD can also endanger dedicated 1440p GPUs with the Halo

[ashen spindle]

anyway lets talk more about jokes, who wants to get 15th gen aka core 200 but not core ultra bu still the same core as alder lake?

[umbral heron]

Maybe it's time to make 1080p tiny PC with 8700G?

[reef patrol]

It's nice... in theory. Not much use having an 8800 something APU with no GPU.
You need the APU changes to happen on the cheaper models, so that eSports PCs get stronger.

I sold - so - goddamn many PCs with APUs in the 1060 days for families who wanted their 10yr old to start gaming.

[cursive summit]

I actually kinda need a mini PC to connect to my 4K TV and run adblocked youtube with it

I wonder what the pricing is on this

What

Since when does PCIe matter anymore

[ashen spindle]

I'd wait for strix point for better value

[old marlin]

maybe the rumors are true and they do a 9700k

with no HT on higher end parts

[ashen spindle]

I mean, arrow lake is taking away HT yes

[cursive summit]

Ok the 8700G is a bit hard to swallow at $329

That's X3D pricing

[ashen spindle]

but we might get a refresh-refresh before

[cursive summit]

I have a spare B450 board and I think 16 gigs of RAM, I wonder what low-cost GPU and CPU I could get for entry level "TV box" build

4K, minimum gaming capabilities at native, indie titles and oldies, YouTube, movies

Would have to be SFF

[umbral heron]

Hmm... Maybe 5600G* would do?

[cursive summit]

Well I doubt old APUs would cut it at 4K

Maybe.. Arc 380 with some R5 5500?

[umbral heron]

If you want only to stream at 4K and play light games, it should be enough

[cursive summit]

I suppose that'd be the way to go

Idk how much are 6600XTs and such nowadays

[fair gull]

although i cant lie i didnt notice a big perf hit using my 9700k since release

but i also came from a 4790k

[ashen spindle]

its more about the 9700k not have hyperthreading to have product segmentation

[cursive summit]

Wtf is this article https://www.businessinsider.com/clippers-owner-steve-ballmer-obsessed-toilets-arena-intuit-dome-2024-1

[umbral heron]

Hmm... it's x8 card, I dunno if it'll be happy on PCIe 3.0 of B450

[cursive summit]

How can you be passionate about building toilets

[umbral heron]

Our favourite "developers" guy

[cursive summit]

Yeah but 6600XT punches pretty damn well

Also B450 has PCIe 4.. no?

[umbral heron]

I wish

But yeah, x8 may be enough, it's certainly an issue with 6400's and 6500's x4 though

[cursive summit]

Lol 6600XT is STILL 400 euros here

That's a major ripoff

Arc A770 is 300 flat while being about as good

Idk how massive are Arc cards though for an SFF build

[raw zephyr]

i have a N5105 and it does 4k transcoding just fine in jellyfin

[cursive summit]

Ah, I use Jellyfin

[ashen spindle]

I just still can't believe that we really are getting another alder lake refresh lmao, idk if this shows how little faith they have in ARL or how scared zen5 is making intel, what even is this day

[halcyon moss]

its apparantly still printing money

[raw zephyr]

https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/administration/hardware-acceleration/amd/

[ashen spindle]

oh no no far from it

[old marlin]

week 49 2023 for mindfactory

amd has 86% sold units and 83% revenue

[cursive summit]

But when the same graph when AMD vs Nvidia

[halcyon moss]

mindfactory is such a specific slice of the market...

[ashen spindle]

yeah MF is DIY market only which is still the smalles pie of the entire market

[halcyon moss]

quin is lana posting

[ashen spindle]

but even though they are doing better in laptop, this is far from printing money

it's intels profit margin

[halcyon moss]

ah

not a lana post, just not enoguh context :p

[ashen spindle]

well it was posted recently already so I didnt bother including the entire slide

and while that is still a money gain, it's far from printing money for them

[old marlin]

no other public data tho?

[ashen spindle]

yeah next best thing for DiY is amazon rankings but that has no numbers to it

[old marlin]

like I am fully aware that mindfactory is not representative of the market

of no market that is

[ashen spindle]

the best you can do is JPR or others that estimate it based on channel flow and earnings for dGPU

and total market share nvidia has like >80% dgpus still

also raptor refresh-refresh seems to have a different name at least

still this is just 14nm all over again

[sharp badger]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-launches-z790mpower-oc-board-equipped-with-dedicated-oc-panel-mpower-branded-ddr5-memory-also-revealed There's a debug display coming with this mobo, nice (Seven-segment display should be a standard on motherboards instead of the stupid LEDs)

[ashen spindle]

Huh wonder if this means they knew about another refresh coming and made some new boards

[reef patrol]

[steep creek]

https://youtu.be/SaneSRqePVY?si=Zd1jYIUjrA3cpHky

[ashen spindle]

I thought I saw people use over head straps for that

That seems like suicide by apple if the default is only the over ear straps

[old marlin]

you get both

[ashen spindle]

That seems still bad

Because if people use the other one they think it’s bad after some minutes

[steep creek]

Yeah I think the overhead straps will be more popular

Can’t see how this is comfortable for longer sessions

[wheat plume]

do they cost like 300 though?

[ashen spindle]

.

[steep creek]

Yep^

[wheat plume]

oh wtf

Apple giving accesories in the box?! wow

[steep creek]

It’s a first gen product maybe it’s just to give a good impression like samsung did with the first fold 😂

[wheat plume]

LOL

[cursive summit]

BUT THE EWASTE!

[wheat plume]

IKR!!! peoPLe ALreADy HAve MAny HEAdSTraPS AT hOme

[reef patrol]

They do?

[wheat plume]

YeS TheY Do alReadY CauSE AlL The PEOple HavE VR HEadSEtS

[umbral heron]

They do?

[wheat plume]

they do! - Apple 2024

idk where im going with this

just shocked Apple include accesories in the box anymore

[frozen ingot]

this isn't a smartphone though

[umbral heron]

Imagine reaction of Apple psycho fans when they find FREE HEADBAND FOR FREE IN DA BOX

[wheat plume]

didnt they stop including chargers in the box for the new macbooks too?

[frozen ingot]

most people have a dozen usb chargers at this point but AR headset accessories probably not so much

[steep creek]

No

But it used to come with a microfiber cloth some years ago, that’s gone

[umbral heron]

I have only 2 good chargers, and both came with Decks

[wheat plume]

I have a good 65W cahrger I can use for all my shit

but only the laptop on its own ... I regret not buying the 120W one

[cursive summit]

They do?

[wheat plume]

do they?

[steep creek]

I’ll say this though MacBook Pro charged ridiculously quick compared to my lenovo, maybe it’s faulty

Despite the brick only being 5 watts more

[wheat plume]

smaller battery capacity than the lenovo?

[steep creek]

60wh vs 72.4 on the mac afaik

[cursive summit]

Typically Apple is notorious for slow charging

[steep creek]

On all other devices yeah that’s true but the macs are surprisingly nice

[frozen ingot]

using the stock charger for sure, that thing is glacial

you can get significantly faster charging using one with more juice

maybe not ridiculous 20 minutes to full battery like some of those chynaphones but 20% to full in about an hour at least

[steep creek]

I’m using the 20w brick with my phone and it’s okay up to 50-60 then it slows down a lot

Would be nice with a bit faster charging imo

[crisp granite]

Macs come with beefy bricks and MagSafe makes for a really slick charging solution

My MBP charges from 0 to 100 within two hours

The phones probably could do better with a more beefy brick

But the next wattage brick I have is over four times the one I currently use for my phone

Doesn’t seem like the brightest idea

[astral haven]

Watts are pulled by the phone

It only takes what it can handle

[frozen ingot]

I use a 3rd party charger ment for ipads/tablets when charging daytime since its reasonably quick

the slo-mo stock one is better for overnight charging

[astral haven]

I regularly charge my phone with a 160w charger

And it charges at 15-26 watts

[cursive summit]

That really doesn't matter though

Phones charge at set speeds, while you should prolly find a charger that matches those specs, i.e can actually deliver 30W cause I think chargers go in "gears" and allow for not dynamic but set amounts of power delivery

If you go overboard, phone will only charge at set speeds, say, 30W

But I dunno if a charging brick which is rated for 120W but doesn't get a 30W mode would charge at 30W exact and not like, 25W, I wonder

[broken leaf]

Is there any reason for me to get the 60HE?

Instead of the +

[marsh glade]

It ships now instead of later

[broken leaf]

👍👍

[versed hinge]

My charger is fast asf. 50%+ in 15 minutes iPhone 14

[misty saffron]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Power_Delivery

[astral haven]

https://www.chargerlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/2022092805091131-768x433.png
id be shocked if the iphone 14 charged faster than the 14 pro max, at the fastest it takes about 25 minutes for 50%

[gusty kiln]

There doesn't seem to be much difference between 25w and 45w for samsung when charging to 100%. 45w is faster in the mid point but levels out at the end.

[astral haven]

seems there is a bug with the charging that chargerlab experienced

"ChargerLAB has tested multiple Samsung phones and found that even if they support 45W fast charging, their high charging power only reach their peak for a moment, with charging power fluctuating repeatedly between 9W and 36W, unable to maintain a stable fast charging curve."

seems like its fine on the 23 ultra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI_f7zbsLKs

50% in 20 minutes, 80% in 37

[steep creek]

I have the 14 pro max this graph seems pretty on par with mine

[astral haven]

i have a 15 pro and its also pretty similar as far as i can tell

[steep creek]

Yes charging wise 14 pro and 15 pro should not be too different

[icy cave]

My phone support 90W charging, but still need>35mins for 0-100%

[astral haven]

yea, pretty normal

there are some insane speeds coming tho

[steep creek]

Haha what an aggressive curve

[astral haven]

5 mins to 50% 15 to 100

[steep creek]

Also I’m curious carmonben did you end up getting the s24 ultra?

[astral haven]

ordered

the $550 credit for turning in my old phone was too tempting

[steep creek]

🎉

Yeah I’d be tempted too

[astral haven]

just gotta not break it in the next few weeks lol

[steep creek]

How’s the charging curve on that? I read samsung phones don’t offer that much faster charging than iPhones

Yeah lol

[astral haven]

they are an hour faster to full

[steep creek]

I must have looked at some wrong info then

[astral haven]

the 21u has the same max charging watts as the iphone, but hold it much longer

[steep creek]

Pretty good

[icy cave]

i think there was a phone that support 210w charging early in year2022

0-100 in 9mins

[astral haven]

yea

https://petapixel.com/2024/01/29/om-system-adds-new-9-18mm-f-4-5-6-ii-and-150-600mm-f-5-6-3-is-lenses/
holy mackerel
300-1200mm lens!

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/ayaneo-flip-series-announced-with-amd-ryzen-7840-8840u-apu-oculink-and-up-to-32gb-lpddr5x-memory-price-starts-at-699

Clamshell designs ❤️

[astral haven]

with oculink

[crisp granite]

It’s giving off DS lite vibes

I hope the bottom screen is a touchscreen

[astral haven]

that would be hilarous
make the main screen a touchscreen but not the ds screen lol

[tough crypt]

have oc on amd adrenalin and running msi afterburner with riverturner and its working, is it stable to use beacuse i read that alot of people having issues with that, ignore my second monitor lmao

[ashen spindle]

uhh what exactly is supposed to be not stable

like what exactly are you trying to do, why afterburner when you dont use afterburner to oc the gpu?

[tough crypt]

I have read that if you use both it can crash or tweak your settings, i use afterburner with riverturner beacuse i like the fps overlay the amd adrenalin is not that good imo

[ashen spindle]

just use rivertuner without afterburner?

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyxcO2vdcCg
Holy smokes!!!
"scratches at 6 with deeper grooves at 7" is finally done on a "mainstream" phone

[steep creek]

Slick

Maybe it can hold up a lot better now without a screen protector

Don’t want to ruin the anti glare either, that’s such a nice feature of the screen

[frozen ingot]

harder to scratch would normally suggest its harder

which usually implies it should be more brittle

we'll know in a year or two I guess

[steep creek]

Yep

[wheat plume]

I wish every phone had the anti glare

It ruins dark theme apps on sunny days when outside

Can barely use YT Music on my phone when it's sunny outdoors cause that app doesn't have light theme

[digital cliff]

doesn't have a light theme?!?! unusable

[analog sinew]

so titanium is the new apple gimmick everyone has to follow

[frozen ingot]

gotta come up with something to warrant the yearly price bump

[analog sinew]

if only it was an underscreen camera

shitty selfie cameras can go and die in a ditch, at least hide it under the screen

[thick elk]

There are enough people to care about the selfie cam on high-end phones.
Though I would personally have the same preference.

[astral haven]

korea really likes their selfies

not the chinese

many under screens there

[frozen ingot]

I dunno, its not that big a thing here either except among like younger women

[astral haven]

germany is also one of the only countries with incomplete google street view, and has the most homes removed from street view

havent heard about that

that sounds very german at least

[thick elk]

In the netherlands things are pretty free in that regard, only if you publish footage of a person do things get more complicated.

Also no you are not allowed to just film and record your neighbours lawn. Only really a problem if he complains.

and you don't act on that.

Commercially there are more restrictions, but at work our security camera's filming most of the streets around the bulding is seen as a good thing mostly.

[halcyon moss]

That would be Austria. It's technically illigal over thetd

[frozen ingot]

iirc you can't have a camera installed filming outside your building/premises here if it observes a public space

or at least it used to be like that, nowadays with people filming publically with smartphones everywhere it would be trickier to make a case I guess

[thick elk]

In the Netherlands on paper filming public spaces is mostly not allowed, unless you can justify it.
For example in an area with a lot of break-ins / crime.
This does apply for where I work at least.

Another thing would be as long as nobody complains or if you act upon the complains if they do occur its fine.
As always laws are only as good as their enforcements.

[reef patrol]

Legal here as long as you're not recording anyone specific without permission.
That doesn't cover mounted cameras though.

[crisp granite]

holy hell
that's half of average portuguese yearly salary

talk about harsh punishments
but yeah, sensible

[halcyon moss]

Filming (when Doing it yourself) in public is allowed. Static filming of public spaces (like a video doorbell or security camera) is not allowed.

Publishing video is a whole different subject

Ans if you have security cameras it also need to be announced. (can be a a sign)

[thick elk]

Not saying it's allowed, but from what I have seen it's mostly unenforced and if someone complains it probably will be nothing more than a wrning.

[halcyon moss]

Oh it's Def not enforced

And the police is sort of actively advocating things that go against it.. But it still is illigal

[thick elk]

It's also not black and white, it's privacy weight against genuine interest of recording.

also filming without recording legally is also a different matter.

[crisp granite]

and Canada...which irritates the hell out of me

like
fuck
my image is out there at least twice and it irritates me to no end
and this is on crap I haven't given my consent to be on

one of them is some soaper's "travel with me" vid

I should have shoved them onto the track when I had the chance

worse
shotgunning a monster on a platform

that was during some of my darkest days
and I looked the part

and it's out there
irreversibly

[gusty kiln]

Damn the era of 7/8 is here

I don't use a screen protector so this is pretty cool news

Only thing left is sapphire glass

[astral haven]

smartphones with crystals instead of screens

i forsee high expenses

[thick elk]

Higher scratch resistance is great, as long as it doesn't come at the price of being more prone to cracking.

[ashen spindle]

oh amd earnings in 2 hours, thats going to be spicy i hope

[astral haven]

yea its looking good so far

[frozen ingot]

yep this

[astral haven]

not as resistant as kunlun, but much better than older stuff

[gusty kiln]

Quite a bit more pressure this earning

[ashen spindle]

eh I'm hoping they say something about a future event where they announce turin and gnr

for finanicals im not really worried

[steep creek]

this is how the verge's youtube review describes what its like looking through it

https://youtu.be/hdwaWxY11jQ?si=L1FthtbECiPYLbj3&t=398

[astral haven]

ooh, small fov actually makes things more interesting for me

ill wait for real reviews

[steep creek]

yeah it launches the second of february so not too long left

but why do you like a small fov? it supposedly has a smaller fov than quest 3 so less than 110 degrees

my concern is the huge black bars around

[astral haven]

the screens are low resolution relative to the eye

they are known pixel count

the less area the pixels cover, the more dense it is

[steep creek]

oh right i didnt consider that part

yeah good point

[astral haven]

this is useless for gaming because apple

but for media use?

[steep creek]

in the marketing they're pushing kinda hard towards it being a media consumption device

along with productivity of course

[astral haven]

yep because obviously itll get wrecked for gaming

productivity i dont buy either

[chrome estuary]

i'm sorry but i'm not buying an apple media consumption device. I'll get an oculus 3 or a those AR glasses

[steep creek]

yeah you wont be gaming much on this, it already gets hot when just using it for intended tasks

[astral haven]

nah its got plenty of power for gaming

apple just doesnt have controllers, and they are nescessary

[chrome estuary]

despite owning an index (that i need to find a way to hook up to my laptop now.), I honestly want an oculus 3.

[steep creek]

that and i dont think there will be any major games at least for first gen

[astral haven]

demo stuffs, nothing serious

[steep creek]

it can run ipad os apps though so perhaps some

[astral haven]

i do want a cyclops laser eyes shooting gallery type game lol

[steep creek]

haha

id totally be down for a factory type game in ar

been into those recently

[astral haven]

not without hands lol

[steep creek]

yeah for sure

[astral haven]

but laser eyes would be fun

[steep creek]

cant say no to that

[astral haven]

either way vision pro is just for watching movies on a very big virtual screen

[steep creek]

i guess you could do some gaming by sharing the mac screen but i heard that resolution is only 720p?

[astral haven]

yea, real yikes move there

[steep creek]

wont be replacing the laptop screen anytime sure i think

atm im more interested in the xreal because theyre so small and light compared to vision pro

[astral haven]

they are far too low resolution tho

[steep creek]

for movies too? havent gotten a chance to try them

[astral haven]

like its fine for video but its pain for reading text

[steep creek]

yeah i can imagine

[astral haven]

also the fov is too small, 50% bigger would be real nice

[steep creek]

hm im reading its 40 degrees thats small yeah

only vr type device ive tried is quest 3 and that got me really dizzy, so i think ill hold out for sometime

[astral haven]

even if it was just 2560x1440 at 60 degrees, it would be alot better

[steep creek]

yep

[astral haven]

still using a 1080p input just giving you a bit of undersampling or tracking would also be fine

but its also kinda yikes for apple that a $400? set of glasses has 120hz

from like 2 years ago

[steep creek]

that was a strange decision, maybe it'd consume too much energy?

i dont think so but not sure

[astral haven]

nah its just the panels were designed for those refreshes

[steep creek]

i see

[astral haven]

also if the q3 made you dizzy, the xreal might also cause issues

it is covering a large enough part of your fov and isnt tracked to the point of making me sick in a dark room

[steep creek]

yea it was horrible lol, took me some 15 mins to feel better again

[astral haven]

rip

in game or just in the launcher?

[steep creek]

it was some demo in the store, was playing a video with lots of text

but yeah i think i'll just wait until this tech matures a bit more. its really interesting tho

i'd totally be up for watching movies and doing some work on ar devices

[astral haven]

same
but i just dont think ill be able to handle the low resolution

so used to real 4k...

[crisp granite]

AMD earnings at the top of the hour

👀

[astral haven]

as in 2 minutes ago or in 58 minutes

[crisp granite]

at top of hour typically refers to a time in the future

[rough osprey]

https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/Razer-DeathAdder-V3-Pro/RZHB-230201-20

new razer

[gusty kiln]

New coating?

[rough osprey]

you can decide now

and includes 8khz dongle or sum

[smoky frigate]

looks exactly like my current one

[fickle ore]

Riperino

[vapid dagger]

Hi all, question, got my wooting 60he and does anyone know why it wont work on usb 1.1?

[reef patrol]

Because it's a USB 2.0 keyboard.

Almost nothing modern works with 1.1

[vapid dagger]

k.. i use a kvm and one of the inputs is 1.1 and meant for keyboards and is the only input to have hotkeys connected to it to switch between devices..

[reef patrol]

Time to get a modern KVM, sorry 🙂

[vapid dagger]

my keebio works on it just fine, figured it was something like that

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPRZPFM6?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[tiny jasper]

Hello guys i recent buy new pair of headphones, in the specific the DT 990 PRO 250 OHM. pair with an audio interface, the Audient EVO 4, but i have a problem, i didn't do any researches about the EVO 4 (my bad), and i can't use the headphones because the lack of OHM the AMP have, so anyone know any other AMP i can use with the amount of OHM required? thx for your time.

[vapid dagger]

its modern, besides that port, lol

[astral haven]

the audient evo 4 is quite able to drive the dt990 pro 250 ohm

turn up the volume

[astral haven]

you might have to turn off gamepad and nkro

[tiny jasper]

Yes ofc i can hear the sound from it, but is muffled i don't know how to say in english but is like hear underwater (sry im new about audio device)

[vapid dagger]

its a great kvm, minus that.. whats gamepad and nkro? (googling as im typing, lol)

[astral haven]

its either not plugged in fully (check the headphone side of the cable too) or just low volume
there is volume control on the evo4

[vapid dagger]

oh, on the keyboard

[vapid dagger]

whats the downsides of disabling nkro?

[astral haven]

cant make key combos of more than 6 keys

[tiny jasper]

I do everything correct i double check everything, otherwise i saw on the website of the Audievent EVO 4 that the audio interface can run only 50 OHM

[vapid dagger]

ahh.. weak. ill just manually plug it in to the usb 3.0 port when i use the wooting.. which i use only for gaming. but was just unexpected

thank you for taking time to help @astral haven

[tiny jasper]

check this out https://evo.audio/products/audio-interfaces/evo-4/specs/

[astral haven]

thats actually the opposite of how that works
you just need to turn up the volume, but if its actually muffled, not just quiet, the problem is with the wiring

OI of less than 50 ohms means your headphone needs to be more than 50 ohms

or itll be quieter and less power than expected

[tiny jasper]

I don't know to explain i can hear only the bass not the highs

[astral haven]

did you check all 3 connections for the headphones?

[tiny jasper]

But i guess im dumb i cant complain how that work

[tiny jasper]

What do you mean? The only connections that i plug in is the headphones with Jack 6,5 and the power USB C

[astral haven]

oh i thought all the beyerdynamic pros had detachable cables

[tiny jasper]

no

[astral haven]

but the cable is a 3.5 cable with a 6.25 adapter

[tiny jasper]

is not detachable

YES

[astral haven]

make sure the adapter is fully seated

[tiny jasper]

I double check ofc

[astral haven]

once you are sure, turn up the volume of the evo
first make sure the volume in windows is maxed

then click down the main volume button on the evo and turn it to the right to increase the volume

be aware that on new devices, the 6.25 can be really hard to fully plug in

[tiny jasper]

I always use the maxed level volume on both device (Windows and the EVO) and is still playing muffled, i dont know why is strange and still belive is because the OHM

[astral haven]

oh also on the beyerdynamic, the 3.5 to 6.25 adapter has to be screwed in, if its not fully screwed in, it might not make proper contact

[astral haven]

i can assure you that is not the problem

[crisp granite]

wow AMD is taking a tumble
and all they did was meet expectations

[astral haven]

audient specifically says it can push 20mw into 600 ohms

[tiny jasper]

Ok that make sense

Then what is the problem

[astral haven]

again i think its bad contact

can you send a picture of the jack while its plugged in

[unkempt lake]

They havent done that much in general

[cursive summit]

AI

[tiny jasper]

Wait i have idea the problem can be bad Equalizer? or tune? maybe i just need to tune the headphones

[unkempt lake]

Amd the masters of overpromising

[tiny jasper]

yes wait a second

[cursive summit]

They uh, didn't overpromise?

[astral haven]

make sure to turn off all eq when trying out new stuff

[smoky frigate]

and underdelivering, and shit code, and low market share

[unkempt lake]

They did multiple times through their history it's their specialty

Especially gpu wise

[crisp granite]

this time, not really
it was market overhype

[unkempt lake]

Yeah this time its fine

I'm talking about in the past

[crisp granite]

and to say they "met" expectations is a tiny bit of a stretch

it's really a mixed bag

[unkempt lake]

The 7900xtx really didn't land where it was supposed to

[crisp granite]

...I meant in terms of important shit to shareholders

not your dinky little framerate boosters

don't they render graphics on CPUs still?

[unkempt lake]

Oh i'm talking in terms of manufacturing

And results

Like they were clearly expecting more from their architechture than what was delivered

Still made a good product it just didn't land where it should have

[tiny jasper]

So much dust

[smoky frigate]

lick it

[fickle ore]

the real reason was the q1 guidance, not the earnings

[crisp granite]

yep...

it's a short term disappointment though

may as well throw more money at it

now that it's nicely discounted

[astral haven]

are you sure thats fully plugged in?
can you pull it out and show?

[fickle ore]

Didn't sell tho. Forgot. Lol

[crisp granite]

sold most, still held some

so damage is minimised for me, still down a thou or so

[tiny jasper]

Yes is full plugged but i can show you

[crisp granite]

idk
market open might be better

[astral haven]

i looked up pics online you are good

[tiny jasper]

ok

[astral haven]

then it might be eq or something

turn off audio processing in windows

[fickle ore]

tmr will be interesting def to see what happens with GOOGL, MSFT and AMD

[tiny jasper]

Do you think i need a EQ software for better audio ?

[astral haven]

no

[fickle ore]

WORLD indices will be down for sure 😄

[crisp granite]

google is also not doing great after hours, missed several marks

microsoft did well, still dropping in after hours by more than to be expected

[smoky frigate]

you can use eq when it works to adjust the sound to your liking. there is https://autoeq.app , which delivers presets for a lot of headphones to make them sound good as shit on most devices

[crisp granite]

AMD is kind of a bloodbath right now
I'll sell what I have tomorrow

[astral haven]

sell low thats the right idea lol

[crisp granite]

the little I have so I can move to something else
for now

[fickle ore]

Even META went 2 % down afterhours, away with the bathwater I guess. Jesus QQQ is tanking.

[smoky frigate]

zuckerberg bath water

[tiny jasper]

ok im trying thx

[crisp granite]

I want to leave now, see if I can scoop some up later for less
if it did this poorly, it surely won't fare well tomorrow

[cursive summit]

Good time to sell rn tbf

[unkempt lake]

You guys should make your own STONKS channel

[crisp granite]

you
should shut up
and get in on this

pleb

[fickle ore]

Naa its related to tech

[cursive summit]

Debil you bought it at like 10$ or something right?

AMD's not far off ATM so rn selling's fine

[unkempt lake]

I'm a great investor in my checkinng account

[crisp granite]

a little over a hundo
sold most around 180 ish?

[smoky frigate]

how to get in to trade, is there an app for not very high IQ individuals

[crisp granite]

still holding onto...a hundred shares haha this blows

[cursive summit]

Yeah sell that imo

Buy Intel

That drop though

[fickle ore]

just use a bank/broker

[crisp granite]

the only reason I could see myself doing that is because Biden is throwing money at them

and that's not a super bright idea

[cursive summit]

Foundries are important

[smoky frigate]

no, I don't trust some asshole with my money

[crisp granite]

because they are NOT competitive at all rn

[cursive summit]

Intel will hold a fuck ton of advanced foundries soon

Imo that alone will be massive for them

[unkempt lake]

@crisp granite invest for me

this shit sounds complicated

[crisp granite]

might grab a block of a hundo
as a flier

[astral haven]

you need millions to set up your own brokerage lol
your only option is using a bank of some kind

[gusty kiln]

My amd average is in the 40s, so I'm chilling

[fickle ore]

I use my country's biggest bank, they have a brokerage lol

[gusty kiln]

I always laugh at earnings goblin crying

[smoky frigate]

okay, then if I meet a banker that I like. the previous guys that tried to sell me something gave off an air of arrogance, didn't inspire confidence.

[astral haven]

???
how about online banking?

[crisp granite]

best thing you can do in that case is OEO
although you may wish to get some guidance via roboadvisor that'll throw you into a fund after some KYC stuff

[crisp granite]

no
that's twenty flavours of illegal for me and I do not want to end up in a court as a result
also keep in mind that my "investment strategy" scares any advisors around and they'd never sell this to you for a reason
this shit can go real bad, real fast

I appreciate your offer though :>

[gusty kiln]

I wonder if I should buy more defense ETF shares

[fickle ore]

200k apple VR sold is damn good news for VR in general

Thanks apple fanboys

[gusty kiln]

damn

[crisp granite]

can't wait for RE9 VR to be a Vision Pro exclusive

[unkempt lake]

Make me bankrupt for a meme please

[crisp granite]

I'll end up in a court
after you end up at the bottom of a lake

I don't want that
too much paperwork for me

[unkempt lake]

I enjoy swimming

Not against this idea

[crisp granite]

you'd be fitted with concrete shoes beforehand

anyway
I am now the sadge

[astral haven]

But nah it's pretty easy, just open a Robin hood account

Or get a normal loan and squander the money

[ashen spindle]

https://fxtwitter.com/_fabknowledge_/status/1752453742719287481?t=0nWP1aJoBsAy7O6x8ugIxw&s=19

remember when I said lisa was sandbagging?

they original statement was "over 2 billion in 2024"

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1752454200892514789

𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠 (@IanCutress) on X

AMD says Microsoft has brought up GPT-4 on MI300X in their production environment. NVIDIA who?

Overall expecting $3.5b revenue for 2024 for DC GPUs, up from $2.0b estimate given last quarter. So almost double the units.

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

[crisp granite]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ok forward guidance is absolutely awesome

if not wide and...somehow below estimates?

[versed hinge]

25 sounds reasonable. I never timed it

[ashen spindle]

guidance has not said anything about turin yet only that its coming this year so they dont know the destruction that will bring in data center to intel

[crisp granite]

until it happens, no one will

[ashen spindle]

which will make it so much mroe fun

[crisp granite]

mmmmhm

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/donal888/status/1752460151087657161

Don Clark (@donal888) on X

AMD's Lisa Su said on the earnings call that the new MI300 GPU chip is "now tracking to be the fastest revenue ramp of any product in our history," which suggests that some customers aren't enjoying their dependence on Nvidia

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 10:33 PM

[crisp granite]

idk
going to think long and hard about this AMD hold or sell

might buy more tbh
I have some money just lying around haha

[ashen spindle]

I mean my current guess: zen5 makes stuff go up, then we have x quarters of ???? where ai bubble might pop or not and nvidia does some things and then mi400 is going to be at least as destructive as mi300

[astral haven]

but on the other hand, both nvidia and amd stocks are out to lunch P/E wise

[crisp granite]

NVidia to a much lesser extent

[astral haven]

what

[crisp granite]

AMD is...um

[ashen spindle]

yeah idk if it goes down before it rises again or not which makes this really hard to decide, like I know amd has massive things in the future, but idfk what the rest of the market is looking like in that time frame

[crisp granite]

a P/E of 80+ is absurd
much better than...the what, 1300+ of AMD?

[astral haven]

the super high pe number for amd is a short term thing

[crisp granite]

it'll dip down into the hundreds in coming quarters yay

[astral haven]

their current forward pe ratio is 47

nvidias is 30

[tiny jasper]

Btw i try the last change, i plug and install the software of EVO and headphones to my macbook, and magical the audio work fine i dont know why but on my windows pc is sound like bass boosted audio,i cant explain why

[astral haven]

make sure this is set

and also make sure this is checked

[astral haven]

if you have random eq software, get rid of it, but its good to confirm that its not the hardware

[tiny jasper]

yes

[tiny jasper]

where i found this?

[astral haven]

search sounds, click this

[tiny jasper]

ok thx

[astral haven]

click playback, right click on the audient, properties, enhancements tab

[tiny jasper]

done

[astral haven]

hit apply, and is it still messed up?

[tiny jasper]

unluckily yes

[astral haven]

strange

try uninstalling the audio drivers?

[tiny jasper]

Do I uncheck something?

[astral haven]

if this is your first time here, install normally
If youve done this before,
close this
open device manager
find evo 4
right click, uninstall driver

[tiny jasper]

no

nothing change

i try to find evo 4 in device manager and is not there i reinstall the driver and same as it was

[astral haven]

it might say audient rather than evo4

[tiny jasper]

same was not there

[unkempt lake]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/retail-listing-for-nvidias-rtx-3050-6gb-details-price-launch-date-and-has-even-fewer-cores-than-expected

Who's the target for this?

[smoky frigate]

console gamers

[crisp granite]

extreme budget peeps looking for display adaptors or just a card that can game

because that'll do fine for 1080p today

[unkempt lake]

System integrators

[crisp granite]

OEMs are going to be throwing these in systems haha

[gusty kiln]

14900K + 3050 prebuilts

[crisp granite]

...ugh

I'd hope these would be like R5 and 3050 prebuilts

around a thou or so USD

with a simple 1TB SSD, generic PSU

I could see that being a quick to recomend system for most peeps just interested in a cheap and cheerful prebuilt

[gusty kiln]

lol 10 years ago it'll always be an i7 and the bottom of the barrel gpu

as a "gaming PC"

[fickle ore]

talk is cheap. put the money where the mouth is!

positions or ban! wai.. wrong chanel

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-4080-super-tested-up-to-2-4-faster-in-3dmark-similar-gaming-performance-to-rtx-4080

[crisp granite]

This is without launch drivers, no?

We wait for that

[ashen spindle]

drivers shouldnt matter

th card doesnt have any big changes where the driver needs to have more info

[unkempt lake]

Won't change much

[crisp granite]

At least a few percent

Either way, it’s a 4080 at a lower price

[ashen spindle]

and also reviews were originally out yesterday so reviewers would already have drivers for that

[unkempt lake]

That's the one thing

That this card is supposed to be

And 2% to try to catch up to the xtx in raster

That's what was expected

Reminds me of when the 2080 super was released and I was faster than it with my overclocked 2080

4080 super is just the 2080 super again, a very slight boost

And a price drop

[ashen spindle]

5% more cuda cores, yeah lower price basically same performance

[unkempt lake]

Regular 4080 sitting on shelves may get some nice clearance prices as they're EOL and most people will buy the super just cuz its newer

[crisp granite]

I doubt it’ll be better than super pricing tbh

[unkempt lake]

We shall see

[crisp granite]

And either way…you know the specific specificities of my build

[unkempt lake]

I'm not saying your build is a bad choice

[ashen spindle]

4080 in many palces arent even in stock anymore

[unkempt lake]

I know, i'm talking smaller retailers

[wintry pier]

Guys i need your help i want a 80 or 75% keyboard but it isnt out yet is the full size wooting worth it or should i buy a 60%

[unkempt lake]

Full size wooting is worth it

I love mine

And debil loves hers

[ashen spindle]

performace is the same it's just personal preference for layout

[unkempt lake]

Also its in stock and you don't have to wait

You'll get it in a few days 🙂

[ashen spindle]

those wont care if they have a product on shelves a few weeks more

[unkempt lake]

True for most but again depends

[wintry pier]

Yeah exactly but im kinda more a 80% guy and also is the pulsar x2h worth it or is another mice for 100 worth it more?

[unkempt lake]

I have no clue about the x2h but for mice its all about personal preference

And grip

All depends on what you want

I like the g502 but you maybe wouldn't like it because you want something light

[wintry pier]

Yeah around 60 for me is great

[unkempt lake]

Yeah it all depends on personal perference

[wintry pier]

Im choosing between g pro 2 or the pulsar x2h

[unkempt lake]

Some people play well with some mice and play badly with others

[wintry pier]

Yeah true

[unkempt lake]

I'd probably go for the g pro 2 cuz im already stuck running ghub for my headset

😛

And i've had no issues rmaing to logitech before

[wintry pier]

Alr thanks was curious because this is my first like big purchase for M and K

[unkempt lake]

Having a company take care of you when you have an issue i think is an important thing so if i know they have a decent rma system and i had a good experience with it i prefer going with thay

Pulsar i have never owned or used one of their products nor do i know what their rmas are like

Maybe look it up and see if they're rated to have good cs

[wintry pier]

Will do thanks yet again

[unkempt lake]

Logitech has decent cs and rma, only issue is they take a bit to respond at times

So yeah i'd go logi if you have another logi peripheral like a headset since you're already stuck running ghub or go pulsar if thay's not the case

And if pulsar has good cs/rma (i have no idea personally also one thing to remember is people tend to post negative things more often than positive things)

It does seem cheaper than the logi so it may be a nice choice @wintry pier

[wintry pier]

Alright

[severe phoenix]

https://vxtwitter.com/skatterbencher/status/1752528333487960488/photo/1

[severe phoenix]

Nvidia's website is down for some reason

[umbral heron]

Works fine for me

[cursive summit]

Nvidia down

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[severe phoenix]

I had heard it was

[umbral heron]

[tiny jasper]

Guys someone know where i can order the rtx 4080 super?

I have problem with the official site of Nvidia and i wonder where else i can look for this GPU

[reef patrol]

At any electronics retailer in your country soon enough I would expect?

[cursive summit]

Saw a 7900XT this morning for sub-700 euros

Amazing price but.. kinda happy with my rig for now I suppose, it's pretty old but it still gets work done

[tiny jasper]

ok so im not the only with problem

[cursive summit]

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/01/ars-technica-used-in-malware-campaign-with-never-before-seen-obfuscation/

Cool, URL exploits

This is just a weird comment though, "Ars representatives had nothing further to add."

You are Ars, why are you writing in third person

[fair gull]

"with never before seen obfuscation"

base64 such new tech

[cursive summit]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/01/28/new-details-free-ai-upgrade-for-google-and-samsung-android-users-leaks/

So they are just pilfering my private messages

Thanks, googlez

[old marlin]

Man that ai is gonna be so good at giving you a random 2fa code

[umbral heron]

Raspberry is selling out? https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/30/raspberry_pi_ipo/

[mild dome]

Went well for Unity didn't it

[cursive summit]

I don't see why would you want to IPO

If you are a private company with so much popularity as Raspberry, WHY would you IPO

Why would you subject yourself to investors

[reef patrol]

Typically to gain investment money to expand into something.

[cursive summit]

Isn't Raspberry profitable enough?

[reef patrol]

There's always more money, and not always enough investment.

Or maybe the owners are tired of being directly involved, and would rather just retain stock options and dividends to move on to new projects.

[umbral heron]

On one hand RPis are selling out as soon as they are in stock
On the other, they kinda lost relevance and there's a lot of other SBCs on the market https://hackerboards.com/

RPi is meant to be universal SBC, but in the end every missing functionality you have to add with new PCBs, HATs etc. whereas at this point it's better to just go with certain purpose focused SBC
Raspberry is still ahead when it comes to software, but official support is still spotty at best, it took them ages to bring Raspbian to 64-bit, and for now for example proper support for WPA3 still does not exist

[cursive summit]

No https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reaffirms-ryzen-cpus-with-zen5-architecture-are-coming-in-the-second-half-of-2024

[ashen spindle]

Yeah idk about that one, amd literally didn’t say that?

[cursive summit]

Some guy from Tom's Hardware apparently did https://twitter.com/PaulyAlcorn/status/1752472072339472806

Paul Alcorn (@PaulyAlcorn) on X

An AMD rep just confirmed that Zen 5 is on track for the consumer market for the second half of this year.

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 11:21 PM

[ashen spindle]

Yes I said amd didn’t say it because where is that transcript this is the same credibility as the intel rep that said meteor lake is coming on desktop?

Earnings call sure as hell didn’t mention this

And zen 4 also had desktops months before servers officially got announced so this doesn’t make much sense to me yet

[crisp granite]

LMFAO GN review of 4080S is up

[ashen spindle]

Yeah watched it just now

About what was to be expected

[crisp granite]

1-3% improvement

but cheaper :o

[ashen spindle]

It’s really just Stockholm Syndrominh the market

Since this really should have been the launch price

[crisp granite]

it is the launch price

For the questionable refresh

[ashen spindle]

For the 4080 it should have been

[nimble canopy]

i hope with the super the 7900xtx get cheaper in a few days

[ashen spindle]

The card performs the same and the non super is eol

[crisp granite]

Ngl they should have just done a 4080 price drop, saved all this

It’s just weird

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but as Steve said this way it’s free marketing on top to pretend it’s new

Now we get hopefully some gpu price wars for some weeks before rdna4

[cursive summit]

Those results make no sense

[crisp granite]

woah
MSI expert line is available

absurd pricing

[ashen spindle]

Why doesn’t it make sense

5% more cuda cores 3% more performance

[crisp granite]

this is 240 CAD more than standard models
such as the FE

...ouch

[ashen spindle]

Lol

[crisp granite]

and Canada Computers has everything listed as completely sold out

just one or two cards per store
IN BC

[cursive summit]

Also is clocked faster on both gpu and memory

[ashen spindle]

That seems more like they didn’t get the stock yet rather than it sold out tbf

[cursive summit]

1-3% is just way too low

[ashen spindle]

Since the reviews are a day late due to shipping issues with stock

Mindfactory here has about every model in stock lol

[crisp granite]

1.1K€ including VAT

not bad

[cursive summit]

Lol it's more expensive here than non-Super

[sonic dew]

seeing the 1-3% perf didf

diff

[sonic dew]

makes me happy i got a 7900xtx

[cursive summit]

Why'd I spend borderline 100 euros more for the same card

Ah it's alright it's just a single retailer being nuts

There's models for 1130 euros which is okay

I mean, it's still a shit card for 1100 euros like wtf

[gusty kiln]

All msrp models are sold out

Except at microcenter

[cursive summit]

It's just kinda nuts that XTX can be found like 20%+ cheaper than this

While being just superior at rasterization which is all that matters

[gusty kiln]

20% in the eu?

EU? Xtx is only 940

[cursive summit]

Nah I didn't see that kind of prices in EU

In NA in some places there's been sales down to 800$

[gusty kiln]

Those are fake

[cursive summit]

Those were not fake

[gusty kiln]

No real xtx listing are under 900

[cursive summit]

You'd be very wrong

[gusty kiln]

Amazon, microcenter, newegg

None are under 900

[cursive summit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/14htjhv/gpu_powercolor_hellhound_amd_radeon_rx_7900_xtx/
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/18re34k/gpu_msi_gaming_radeon_rx_7900_xtx_gaming_trio/

I remember the deals happening and wishing I lived in US

[gusty kiln]

Look at that comment

[cursive summit]

XTX's being under 900 is very common

[gusty kiln]

Literally like 1 is ever sold at that price

[cursive summit]

Close to 800 is a bit more rare

[gusty kiln]

Stop getting baited by random one-offs

[cursive summit]

An amazon 830$ deal is not a one-off

[gusty kiln]

And it's expired

[cursive summit]

So?

[gusty kiln]

It's not the norm

[sonic dew]

i bought my xtx for $1,049

but the premium was worth it

for the sapphire nitro+ variant

[cursive summit]

https://gpuopen.com/learn/introducing-hip-rt-v2-2/

[misty saffron]

https://youtu.be/dtp6b76pMak

one thing i don’t think i get is the “immersion” slider

why would you want a migraine incoming-type blob in front of your face?

[astral haven]

why would it induce migranes?
and why would you want your real world stuff to be visible behind your media or work?

[astral haven]

that doesnt answer either of my questions

[analog sinew]

i can't wait to see the first one in the wild

[final flame]

female marques

[pale sigil]

I ain't watching 37 of marques

[astral haven]

this is for people actually considering the thing, which 1.1 million people probably shouldnt be

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow when are you getting one

[shadow minnow]

Too expensive

But I wanna try one if they have in Apple stores

[astral haven]

same, def gonna take a peek

[pale sigil]

I doubt

[unkempt lake]

Doesn't seem interesting to me

Same with all the vr stuff

[astral haven]

you and most of 8 billion other people

[thick elk]

Note to self should still finish half-life alex sometime.

Just never really played it enough to get past vr sickness but on paper I like vr.
I am also mildly car-sick and the two feel the same.

[astral haven]

if you are getting vr sickness in alyx, its the computer or the headset, the game is by far the most accessible game with movement

[sharp badger]

The Virtual display is really the only interesting thing after watching the video of the Vision Pro, the eco system is better for people that have Apple devices though

[astral haven]

how about the whole media watching thing?

[old marlin]

Good vr "desktop" isn't a thing outside of it yet

[sharp badger]

Well feel like it kinda ties together with the Virtual display

[astral haven]

quest3 is not as good but solidly better price to performance
and varjo xr is better

[old marlin]

Heard of issues with the useability of the varjo

Quest 3 is prob the best alternative atm

[astral haven]

yea varjo is nvidia gpus only for the most part, but steamvr is definetly a better vr desktop experience than vision pro, and virtual desktop is available as well

[sharp badger]

I'd actually see myself using that Virtual display function at the PC but travelling with a headset? eeeh, nah

[astral haven]

you probably dont fly much

[sharp badger]

Mostly travel by car so yeah

[astral haven]

planes are very different from cars (shocking revelation i know)

[sharp badger]

😱

[astral haven]

i see this mostly as a tv replacement

instead of an appletv and a 90 inch oled, you get a vision pro

[sharp badger]

Yeah was looking at some XREAL glasses instead

[astral haven]

ive got them, they havent improved resolution on the new ones, which is the biggest problem

[sharp badger]

Ok 🤔

[thick elk]

I must add that I was kind of forcing myself to use stick movement, but even without, it was kind of a thing. Where superhot vr was no problem at all, also tried dirt rally which was also kind of bad in that regard with the bumps in the road.
I just have to play in moderation 30m per 48 hours or so.

[astral haven]

yea superhot doesnt really have movement, just teleport

[reef patrol]

Didn't it use to?

Could have sworn you had to move manually, and that was what dictated if time was slow or not.

[old marlin]

What

[astral haven]

no, you either move your body or you teleport

[old marlin]

I thought you only teleported in vr

[astral haven]

theres no vr movement system

[thick elk]

Yea basically that

[reef patrol]

Oh in the VR game

[astral haven]

yes

[reef patrol]

Like I said "used to" meaning the normal game 😄

[astral haven]

what makes people sick in vr is moving when your body doesnt

and alyx's system is by far the best example of that working

but it has pretty high requirements, and you cannot have much latency

quest is just not good enough

[thick elk]

It helps for sure, but doesn't completely solve it. I was using a Valve Index

[astral haven]

yea then it was the pc

[thick elk]

Even after gpu and cpu upgrade, as the frametimes were fine

[astral haven]

its super hard to hold 120 in alyx even on a relatively high spec pc

[thick elk]

Could be, but I think the main reason was probably that I forced stick movement and then tried teleporting to see if it helped when I was already getting vr sickness

[astral haven]

fine isnt good enough, for 30ish percentile humans or worse, it needs to be nearly perfect

[thick elk]

I should try it again sometime on my current system with teleport movement, to see if it is better now.

This is something I thought about for a while, but just haven't gotten around to actually do.

[pale sigil]

Do you think covering a glass side panel with cardboard will be fine? Xd

[thick elk]

gaming time is somewhat limited and I nowadays tend to focus more on one game than scattershot.

[astral haven]

make sure you disable virtualization when playing, for flatscreen the minor improvements are whatever, for vr, minor performance penalties can be the difference between half an hour and fine forever

[thick elk]

Should also look into if the situation has improved on linux with VR, used to be somewhat problematic. Rebooting for it also puts up an extra barrier.

[astral haven]

oh yea linux probably wont work well

[digital cliff]

it's still garbage afaik

[thick elk]

Okay good to know

[astral haven]

and older amd cards are also out

6000 or newer or nvidia

and ive heard issues on 6000 too

so ymmv

[thick elk]

Using a 7900xt + 7800x3d so that should still be fine. Only thing that does throw a wrench in things is windows really likes to do background processes if you haven't used it in months.

But really it's all something that can be overcome, just a collection of hurdles that make me less prone to play a vr game.

[astral haven]

set priority of compositor to high and -high to launch commands and that wouldnt be an issue

[astral haven]

yep
theres really no good vr platform for games besides the quest and psvr, and both have glaring flaws
PCVR is great for the enthusiasts, but only the ones willing to go the extra mile for it

[pale sigil]

So ye

[thick elk]

At some point I will get back into it but I would have to say for a while, my gaming time is VR time. At the very least I can be sure that I won't be over consuming.

[pale sigil]

Sticking cardboard to the side will be fine right?

Or I could probably print a cover

[reef patrol]

Worried about it shattering?

Doesn't the case have a mesh side panel option you can just buy?

[pale sigil]

I mean probably but money

[thick elk]

Just wondering, are the panels swappable? otherwise you could possibly swap mesh and glass.

[pale sigil]

Yes

Oh

You mean between the side?

[reef patrol]

Yep

[thick elk]

yea, if it's next to the wall who cares if it's glass

[unkempt lake]

I wouldn't really worry tbh

[pale sigil]

It's against a metal leg

[reef patrol]

On the OTHER side?

[pale sigil]

Well

There's a slight gap

[pale sigil]

You mean id is swapped sides?

Then my foot xd

[reef patrol]

Bruh. Get some metal fillament and print a fucking wall mount for that poor case before you break it.

[pale sigil]

Debating putting it in here

I can move the wardrobe to the left

And yes there's a bottle on the floor because my fucking dog keeps stealing them and chewing the lids

Kinda why I came to the conclusion that maybe covering the side panel in cardboard will be better

[thick elk]

Just a check, you know you are talking in tech-talk?

[pale sigil]

Yes

[reef patrol]

It's tech!...adjecent.

[thick elk]

I know everything is, just not the usual spot for this.

[pale sigil]

My wiring etc is messy because I'm working on redoing everything

For example

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/718264973931053057/1201326406467076126/PXL_20240129_004155736.RAW-01.COVER.jpg?ex=65c96966&is=65b6f466&hm=9c66a648e0b4e8a18e0a32a51aa14197781c6a1b77821651e34502b69dfdf1aa&

[old marlin]

Fiber fill filament please

Metal printing for strength is only a thing with omega expensive machines

[reef patrol]

I'll trust your knowledge. I don't print 😄

[unkempt lake]

It doesn't look bad

My wiring looks messier

Also having a glass panel against a metal desk leg has never been a problem for me

tg is solid enough, it's corner impacts that break it

A light tap against metal won't do much in the center @pale sigil

Small gap is fine

Look at my quality cable management under my desk

I bet you're so jealous rn

[halcyon moss]

That looks like mine!

[unkempt lake]

Only one who looks under is well my cat

So why would i care

How is that a fire hazard

...?

Damn a ups and monitor cables, scary

Nah

I have an eatx case, my exhaust is way higher

Does it make ambient higher for the ups yeah sure, is it a fire hazard no

It's not like it dumps it directly on it

Hot air goes up naturally also idk what janky ass upses you use but this one has a fan that spins when it's running on battery/gets over a certain temp + were talking about a lead based battery if it can handle the ambient from being in an engine compartment it can handle the ambient from a pc lol

[cursive summit]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-Mix-Fold-4-tipped-to-launch-worldwide-with-Snapdragon-8-Gen-3-processor.799006.0.html

[unkempt lake]

Foldables are neat but i wouldn't get one

[cursive summit]

Didn't ask

[unkempt lake]

Then why post this if its not to talk about foldables

[cursive summit]

It wasn't a question, it was a statement

[unkempt lake]

I'm literally saying they're cool but they're just not for me lol

[cursive summit]

👀 Didn't ask

[unkempt lake]

...

ok

What do you want me to say then

Cool winnie the pooh edition smartphone?

[cursive summit]

I would have prefered nothing but that's something

[unkempt lake]

I guess

[cursive summit]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/30/24055534/web-private-network-internal-icann-name

I mean, is that new?

For asus it was always "router.asus.com"

I don't mind 192.168. or 127.0.0.1 either

[halcyon moss]

Try .local

[cursive summit]

localhost?

[thick elk]

The difference between .local and .internal is that .local is not intended to work with dns but .internal is.

[cursive summit]

I have no clue what .local is or how it works

Just typing ".local" in address bar simply does a search

[thick elk]

connecting to a device on your network it could be something like hostname.local

that's how it was meant to be used

let's say you have a sever called garbageserv with a webinterface, you could go to garbageserv.local and connect to it that way.

[cursive summit]

Mmmm I sure love my garbage sewers

[thick elk]

.internal is meant as something you could point to on a dns-server on your router, lets say you want to host an internal web-page you could use somewebapp.internal and have the dns point to the right place in your local dns-server (for example on the router).

[astral haven]

local is dns
it doesnt work with the global dns system, but it uses your routers local dns

[thick elk]

It can work yes, but it is not meant to be used like that.

[astral haven]

no, thats the only way it can work

[thick elk]

it's meant to be used with mDNS / zerofconf

[astral haven]

uh since when?

just because mdns inherited the old standard doesnt mean its exclusively for that

[thick elk]

Either way as far as I understand the icann decided on .internal as a distinct name meant to be resolved via a dns-server where .local would remain outside of the dns and is used for devices announcing themselves.
Even if it were an old standard it has esteblished uses now. So good to keep them separate to avoid conflict.

[astral haven]

Yup
Most folks have switched dns to .localdomain
Pihole uses .LAN

[thick elk]

Now we have .internal as an official standard.

[astral haven]

Fun

[lean jay]

What’s the difference between the 60he + and the 60he cuz if I want I can just get it shipped now but it says it will be the prebuilt 60he not the 60he+

[reef patrol]

#archived_wooting_60he message

[unkempt lake]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-reportedly-selects-intel-foundry-services-for-chip-packaging-production-could-produce-over-300000-h100-gpus-per-month

[ashen spindle]

it would be so fucking funny if IFS opening up is only going to be used for packaing and nobody using the nodes lol

[cursive summit]

How can you use it only for packaging without using Intel nodes?

Aren't those foundries configured for Intel's own designs?

[ashen spindle]

the article describes how the packaing works

[cursive summit]

They kinda did not

Just mentioning CoVoS, Foveros and such

Well whatever, it is what it is

[ashen spindle]

yes and it said how it works

[tawdry urchin]

yo guys what's the difference between the wooting 60he and the wooting two he

[sonic dew]

heyoo

anyone got any recommendations for some good IEMs?

[ashen spindle]

60% vs fullsize

[tawdry urchin]

so it's jus a size diff

[ashen spindle]

yea

[tawdry urchin]

alr

[tawdry urchin]

if i get this new monitor

https://www.amazon.ca/AOC-C27G2Z-Curved-Computer-Monitor/dp/B088LG2BSW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=14JQWUWE36SGA&keywords=gaming+monitor+360hz&qid=1706746351&sprefix=gaming+monitor+360hz%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-6

do i need to get my own display port cable as well or is tht covered?

[ashen spindle]

idk check what the monitor is coming with

[vague needle]

Most monitors come with their own cable, but you’ll have to verify yourself on the listing

[thorny narwhal]

what's new with Wootility Web v4.6.13-beta? i cant find release notes

would be nice to know what's new

[silent oracle]

Should I buy a new microphone or new HE switches

[quiet edge]

Both

[digital cliff]

new microphone doesn't benefit you

[crimson wigeon]

But it benefits others

[analog sinew]

buy an airfryer

benefits you and others

[dusk ocean]

get the 52 inch samsung monitor

trust me it’s so much better

i have it and it gives me hacks

just like the wooting does

[digital cliff]

sure but a 30€ mic is more than good enough

[crimson wigeon]

Oh yeah if what they have right now doesn't sound horrible

[cursive summit]

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-68140297

Updates are cancer, are and will be

[fair gull]

ok what 12 games

[cosmic thunder]

is rtx 3060 too weak for the finals?

my fps is like 80-110

[reef patrol]

Seems fine?

[fair gull]

so you have your answer

its fine

[cosmic thunder]

but i want to play at least 240 fps

qhd

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

so its not a gpu issue but your expectations are the issue

[reef patrol]

What CPU do you have?

[cosmic thunder]

i have intel core i5 10400f

planning to upgrade to 15th gen

[reef patrol]

Lowering the settings might be a temporary solution.

[cosmic thunder]

its already at the lowest

[fair gull]

also i think i saw even 4090s struggle with the game on lowest settings

not going over 200fps

(at qhd ofc)

i think the only way to get to over 200fps in general is frame generation

[cosmic thunder]

that fps boosting feature using ai?

[fair gull]

its not fps boosting but making up new frames that the game has not given to the graphics card

so they may or may not be whats actually going to happen

or has happened