🔌│tech

[unkempt lake]

Fsr just looks too damn ugly

[cursive summit]

Damn that performance upgrade though, idk how they calculate that, but that's nuts

One of those I'll be buying, and it's probably 7900GRE

Ngl with a card of the 7800XT/GRE performance, I can easily play at 4K

My 32" 1440p isn't the best at ppi

[unkempt lake]

Older games sure

Buying thay gpu for 4k is a joke

If you want to play modern games

[cursive summit]

I like how people assume that you have to play the newest CoD

I play predominantly indies and oldies

[unkempt lake]

Then you don't need an upgrade in the first place

[cursive summit]

Or ultra modded games

[cursive summit]

Well it's more of a "business" expense

I need a card for game development and mine's showing age

Gaming wise I do see very little reason to upgrade

[unkempt lake]

Exactly it all depends in your use case

[cursive summit]

And again, I would buy Nvidia here cause of CUDA

But those fucks are just so expensive

[unkempt lake]

But we're talking a business expense

[ashen spindle]

wall street really doesnt like the next quarter guiding lol

[cursive summit]

Well it ain't going to earn me money anytime soon so I'd rather buy a new card but save

[unkempt lake]

Get a lower end nvidia card for cuda

If you need cuda acceleration

[fickle ore]

It's after hours man.. Check again tomorrow could be -10% or +10%

[unkempt lake]

You don't game much anyways

[ashen spindle]

I know, earnings call in 15

[cursive summit]

Tbf I got no clue if I even need CUDA, I would assume that Nvidia plays nicer with UE5 and Lumen than AMD does

[ashen spindle]

but often it does stay to what after hours went to when its bad earnings

[ashen spindle]

ok so you dont even know what cuda means

ue5 is mostly made as an engine for current gen consoles so it does play very nice on amd

[unkempt lake]

For UE5 what you want is vram

[cursive summit]

Lumen would literally run through CUDA though

CUDA's just calculations

[unkempt lake]

But honestly you need more cpu than gpu

What cou do you have rn

[cursive summit]

I'm alright with my 5600

[unkempt lake]

You can do eu5 on an older card no problem

[unkempt lake]

I'd swap that out instead of getting a new gpu

[cursive summit]

I would get less of a performance benefit from buying a CPU than GPU

[unkempt lake]

True

[fickle ore]

Telsa went down pretty bad too :/

[unkempt lake]

But if you do just get something with a lot of vram

[cursive summit]

If anything developing on mid hardware makes sense cause then you know if people with cheap rigs can actually play your game

[unkempt lake]

ehhhh

Have you started developing yet?

You seem inexperienced

[cursive summit]

The game project? For now just making notes

[unkempt lake]

I have a feeling like you haven't done much and that this is all just hypotheticals in your head

But theres a start to everything

[cursive summit]

First I have a small project to get into the hang of things that's just a desktop applet

[unkempt lake]

Well before you put any money into anything

Start with what you have

[ashen spindle]

they arent running lumen or nanite on cuda/rocm/sycl it's run directly on the gpu, thats why its not great on ARC because arc doesnt have 64bit atomics

[unkempt lake]

Get a feel for it

Then come back

[cursive summit]

I just got my BSc, doing the applet to get into hang of things, and then full time development until the end of year and ahead with UE5

Prolly will make the game as my MSc

[cursive summit]

Understood, gives more reason to consider AMD then

[unkempt lake]

Ok ok

[cursive summit]

Wasn't really thinking of doing raytracing, but will look into VR

[unkempt lake]

But yeah rn the 3060 12gb is a banger deal for game dev

Cheap vram

[steep creek]

Congrats 🎉

[unkempt lake]

If you want to do some hi res texture work

Vram will be your cap

[cursive summit]

The 7900GRE is just so good though

16GB of VRAM, insane performance for 600$ or so

I won't have to buy a new card for another decade

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle they're growing though again after 2022-2023 which was their worst year

[unkempt lake]

That sentence

Is a meme

The number of times i've heard this lol

[cursive summit]

Considering the games I play are like from 2013?

Or even earlier?

If a game comes out in 2024 I'll prolly still play it in 2034

[unkempt lake]

For game dev you will need a new card in 10 years lol

You're delusional if you think it will last you a decade

[cursive summit]

I don't want to be an out of touch dev that makes something and it runs like shit cause it's unoptimized

I'd rather have something that's pretty good, but I have to optimize everything

[unkempt lake]

Then keep a test rig around

[cursive summit]

Gaming on iGPUs should be a target

[ashen spindle]

if you make something you need a card that is massively faster because you have insane overhead for engine editor/code debugger etc. lol

[unkempt lake]

But for making your games... you'll need proper hardware

[unkempt lake]

^^^^

This

You can test run it on a potato system after

[cursive summit]

I mean I'll listen to quin considering they literally do gamedev

[unkempt lake]

But to make the damn thing

[ashen spindle]

you can do it on a dos machine

but like, unless you write it in assembly you probably dont want to

[ashen spindle]

worst year (yet)

[unkempt lake]

You probably should since... you seem misinformed about quite a few things

[cursive summit]

I am very much confident that a high end card and a 6 core would easily tackle game dev

[ashen spindle]

you can do it on a shitty old laptop

but the longer your stuff takes to load up the longer it takes to finish a part

[unkempt lake]

That's true but you're saying things will last you a decade and not taking time as a factor

Time is money

Making your workload more efficient really matters

[cursive summit]

Plan is to do a game with Lumen for lighting, Metahuman for models and just UE5 to run things, nothing as freaky as raytracing, I should be fine with a decent rig

[steep creek]

Yeah with lower end parts you would be spending a lot of time waiting for the computer to catch up

[cursive summit]

And the game is more like a tech demo

[unkempt lake]

Start by doing fun hobby projects

[fickle ore]

Just use AI and release a MMORPG in a day Vexx

like the rest of them

[unkempt lake]

Then see where things lead you

Then consider putting in your money

[cursive summit]

This is literally what I want to do lol, but just cause the idea doesn't seem insanely difficult but insanely valuable to create

Not even going to sell this cause well, legal reasons

But yeah would work well with finding jobs later or going indie depending on how things go

Well, what I want is more.. new

Few titles did it, but doubt there'll be a lot of documentation

What, UE5 has nothing to do with what I'll be doing lol

It's fine

I'll just be working with a custom AI model to do some fun stuff

Pretty much the project I hope would be of a high enough complexity that it'd be valuable for an employer at the worst

I mean, it's very much a passion project

I want to pay homage to something wonderful by remaking the thing in a modern game engine

Hell maybe the OG devs would just hire me and fly me out to U.S to work there considering AI is literally their thing

Hence, free

That looks like stuff I used to play on my PSX back in the day

I mean, it's not the cleverest of things to just share my "unique idea"

I am remaking this in its entirety in UE5 with proper AI

Lots of hurdles there, but I have planned out how I would do it and I think it'll work out

UE5 would be perfect here

I very much would love to remake that thing in a modern game engine

It's more of a technical complexity than a size one

Cause I am very impressed by current AI games like Vaudeville and Inworld, but they have a major problem

AI just does whatever the hell it wants and fails to progress to story beats

Whereas Facade is just on story autopilot, literal antithesis

So I'll be having lots of fun figuring out where AI should take over, and where story beats will have to take place, and how to make player input actually mean something

Tbf Facade is janky as hell so it should have jank to be authentic anyways

But it just makes sense to try and remake it

Those devs since then last I heard work with AI and do U.S military contracts lol, maybe they'd be okay with licensing it as an official title

[chrome estuary]

good god man.

[cursive summit]

Tbf I also want to expand the game but I don't feel qualified in writing good characters

Safe option is just a faithful recreation

[chrome estuary]

i remember facade quite a bit, i remember sucking at it mostly. but i'm rooting for you.

[cursive summit]

I don't think it's going to be that difficult?

[chrome estuary]

nfc, all chinese to me

[cursive summit]

I am 100% aiming for it to be playable in its entirety by end of year

Considering I'd be investing like 16 hours a day into it for the next 10+ months, I think it's doable

This would be my portfolio project

[chrome estuary]

nice, don't let yourself burn out

[cursive summit]

I think it just makes sense as a project to do, lots of valuable stuff to learn in such a project

[chrome estuary]

fair enough

[cursive summit]

I am 100% planning to document the entire journey in its own discord server or patreon or whatever

I'm inexperienced and it'd be great to have support

[chrome estuary]

nice and good idea.

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1750642259144392765 ians thread for the earnings report

𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠 (@IanCutress) on X

$INTC @intel 23Q4 and FY results today. Overall beat revenue predictions from last quarter, still down 2023 vs 2022, but inventory might be over. 18A ramp is where the big money is looking.

💰 Q4 Revenue $15.4B, up 10% YoY
📈 Q4 Gross Margin 48.8%, up 5.0% YoY
💸 Q4 EPS $0.54

Twitter · Jan 25, 2024, 10:10 PM

[cursive summit]

Chill with the low effort posts

This is tech talk, go copy some links

[terse garnet]

Wanna see a real essay ?

[ashen spindle]

hahaha its going even more down

-10% lol

[cursive summit]

So INTC a good buy now?

[ashen spindle]

idk

depends on if you think spinning out fabs will work out and if they can stop making bad products

[cursive summit]

Well making more fabs cannot not work out imo

[ashen spindle]

yes it can

remember 10nm?

[cursive summit]

As we progress there will be a need for more industrial capability imo

If Intel can provide fab space, it will work out

I am not sure about the products part cause my trust in them is a bit low

CPUs are just based on ancient designs for some reason, such horrible efficiency

[ashen spindle]

if they provide fab space at a loss its not good for their stock lol

[uneven fossil]

logitech g pro superlight skates, anyone recommend good ones (not glass) please and thank you

[vague needle]

Their efficiency is limited by fab, not design.

[cursive summit]

I will need a source on that

Intel 7 isn't that much worse than TSMCs offerings

[vague needle]

The source is that it’s a larger fab process and larger fabs use more wattage to complete the same work, all things equal

[cursive summit]

Intel 7 on paper isn't that much different from what I can see from TSMC N7

Even if Intel 7 is just 10nm

[cursive summit]

And that's not a source

[mild dome]

Backwards compatibility at this time is worth more then a better design

[vague needle]

The physical laws of the universe are my source

[mild dome]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[cursive summit]

From the historical trend of Intel continuously raising power and clock targets, I put blame of lack of efficiency on the architecture

[vague needle]

And zen4 is on 5nm vs Intel’s 10nm - even if Intel is better than tsmc nm for nm, it’s still twice the size

Intel raising power and clock targets is a result of their fab process being behind

[cursive summit]

That's not how that works lol

[vague needle]

Not their architecture

[cursive summit]

"5nm" "10nm" is literally marketing

Those nodes are nowhere near 2x different in any metric

[vague needle]

You’ve now moved into the realm of “nothing is real” and I can’t have good faith discussion about it with you

[cursive summit]

What

Bud, that's not how lithography works

[mild dome]

Comapnies define their own standards of measuring a "nm"

[vague needle]

Okay how about this - when Intel’s process is tied with AMD’s in the near future, 3-4 years from now, remember this when you’re looking at work per watt benchmarks

[cursive summit]

AMD doesn't have a process, they are fabless

[mild dome]

That being said Intel is still behind

[vague needle]

Yes I know not all processes are apples to apples, but Intel’s is “7nm” tsmc equivalent at best, that’s why they named it 7

[cursive summit]

Intel arguably though are making great strides versus TSMC and Samsung

[vague needle]

Brother they outsource fab, that doesn’t mean they don’t have a fab. They just don’t own it

[cursive summit]

1.8A isn't too shabby

[cursive summit]

Well yes they are called fabless for a reason

[vague needle]

Speaking of biting hard on marketing, see: this comment

[cursive summit]

What are you talking about

You are biting hard on marketing without even knowing how process nodes really work, cause for you somehow 10nm is 2x worse than 5nm

AMD is literally what we call a fabless semiconductor manufacturer

[mild dome]

Here's what we mean about nm being made up

[cursive summit]

They split from GlobalFoundries years ago

TSMC is in the lead in terms of nodes, prolly not versus SMIC or IBM or whoever but that's a whole another beast

Intel is not as far behind as you think

I believe the missing link is just that their arch is dated and they need a rewrite

Alder was supposed to be one, but I suspect it was just throwing new stuff on old stuff, instead of a pure new node

[vague needle]

I DO know the very basic and well known differences in density and voltage required on different processes that go outside of stated process size. The problem is that you think a 10nm node can be the same as a 5nm node because you don’t understand the very small span of variability that entails

And they aren’t. Which is why I said the difference in power consumption is due to process node difference and not architecture differences at this point in time for Intel vs AMD

[unkempt lake]

Steam link works better anyways

[empty wren]

Ace pro

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os-jXiYRihI

Hold the front gate. An actual video from ole Linus, instead of clickbait shit.

(Theme: Silicon lottery is still a thing, and it causes issues with reviews)

[raw zephyr]

always have been

and i swear i keeps on getting worse as years pass, i know some hardcore overclockers who went thru 10+ 14900k to get a decent one

[halcyon moss]

And it's a minor percentage

[old marlin]

I mean 10% is not a minor percentage imo

it just became more relevant to average consumers because CPUs are a lot higher tuned than they used to be

[halcyon moss]

Oh I read 3 somewhere, haven't watched the vid

[old marlin]

nah it is 12% in cs

8% in factorio

[halcyon moss]

Ok that is a lot

[old marlin]

from best to worst

[reef patrol]

It's a great video from the review side of things. So much testing had to go into ensuring that the reviews and future benchmarking results were as clinical as possible.

Imagine having to buy a dozen 7800X3D's just to ensure you can stand by your numbers within a 1% margin or so.

(Also makes a good point about how PC hardware doesn't have the same kind of testing standards like the car industry with governmental oversight and fines for foul play)

[old marlin]

also kinda was the reason why they got fucked with past releases

where their numbers did not line up with others

[ashen spindle]

No not really

Even if they always had a product 10% slower that would be consistent in their own results

And not randomly be the same but in one game

[old marlin]

with modern day releases 10% can be a lot

if you get a 4070ti super review sample

and it was just 10% slower than all the other cards

yours would look a lot worse on tables

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but that never was an issue for their past numbers

It was stuff like high double digit difference in cyberpunk only because they still had dlss on for example

[old marlin]

wasn't their 7950x fucked?

[misty saffron]

linus said cs2 but they’ve written csgo on the charts

thanks for nothing i guess

what’s even worse they’ve written “uber shaders” too which isn’t an option in csgo

so which is it?

and then he starts talking about source being a 20 year old engine

you really can’t make it more ambiguous if you try

[analog sinew]

ltt is just kinda done for me

tbh

[ashen spindle]

its also very funny that the link for the doc that shows how they tested isnt working, link dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUeZQ3pky-w also we already got a bigger sample size comparison for this

[reef patrol]

GN is for people with an attention span.

45mins... for a SECOND part is more than I can handle. Just give me a summary 😛

[ashen spindle]

oh no the part 2 is just for the comment aprt, its not the second video about samples lol

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/good-place-tgp-chidi-thats-gif-18334989

[ashen spindle]

essentially this

no it means its not a second part just a standalone, not worse 😛

[reef patrol]

Only one of those CPUs are somewhat recent.

[ashen spindle]

one?

both the 13600k and 7600 are the most recent gen from both vendors

thats 44 samples

[reef patrol]

Ah right. I can't read CPU names without the brand name apparently.

It's not an X3D CPU though. Those are my area of interest 😄

[umbral heron]

What's 4100?

[ashen spindle]

basically they did found outliers but those vanished from rerunning so if you run a bench 3 times you can spot outliers that would put it out of a 4% window so any single cpu is fine to use as long as you do multiple passes to spot outliers

R3 4100

so zen 2 super low end

[umbral heron]

Oh
First time I'm hearing about it

[ashen spindle]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1554658-we-have-the-same-cpu-we-are-not-the-same-testing-12-of-the-same-cpu/ does an embed work lol

ok so going to it from embed works if I click on it from youtube its a missing page lol

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

The tests are from before cs2 released

[reef patrol]

CS2 still isn't fully released is it?

Huh... guess it is. Thought it was still considered in beta and active development (meaning benchmarks are not great longterm)

[cursive summit]

I bet Counter Strike 2 will never be fully released

[ashen spindle]

They finished the labs testing in august according to the doc and cs2 release end of September

They said the reran the games but don’t show the individual test passes sadly

[umbral heron]

Thunderbird trying to protect me from Microsoft's Outlook protection

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[wheat plume]

https://news.itsfoss.com/huawei-harmonyos-linux-kernel/

[cursive summit]

Huawei
You lost my interest

[wheat plume]

Xd

[umbral heron]

So... Linux kernel fork with a sprinkle of backdoors? Also looks like it's only ARM targeted

[analog sinew]

LinuXi Kernel

[wheat plume]

:')

[ashen spindle]

@fickle ore you were right about intel stock after hours not being accurate

They fell down even more today

[astral haven]

fun

[ashen spindle]

And amd on another high

[frozen ingot]

imagine sharing a chinese OS as a viable option

[gusty kiln]

intel skipped over the data center slide during the call

giga-oooooffff

[pale sigil]

What does the left numbers represent?

$ per share?

[astral haven]

yep

[misty saffron]

so what the fuck is “uber shaders” in csgo

[gusty kiln]

almost 3 years with Pat as CEO, still not much improvement

[misty saffron]

you’ve just made it worse quin

[mild dome]

underpayed delivery man delivers your shaders

[ashen spindle]

Hopefully just a typo like them also putting the lows in the wrong boxes on some charts

[misty saffron]

ltt never changes

[ashen spindle]

Nope lol

[reef patrol]

You're kidding me... they specifically promised to set up double checks on this shit after the Linus meltdown.

[misty saffron]

spends millions and still can’t produce factually correct slides

[marsh glade]

Whole market is down yesterday and today. Had such a facemelting rally since the start of the year, even a bullish medium term perspective must include a retracement down to a discount

I'm betting that price has already started moving towards a discount, and any rallies intra-day are selling opportunities 👌

[ashen spindle]

Can it please be down another 50% lol

I missed a chance to enter amd again and now I can’t call if they drop again or not before the next high

[marsh glade]

If you draw a range on the current Nasdaq futures contract from the low of the year so far at 16,334.25 to the high of the year so far at 17,793.50, then a 50% retracement that defines a move into "discount pricing" would be 17,064 and below.

[ashen spindle]

Oh I meant amd only not the rest of the market lol I only have some insight there not anywhere else really

Though I guess market down in general causing that would be nice to since that’s easier to correct for one stock

[marsh glade]

That same concept applied to AMD would take the low at 133.30 to the high of 184.92 as the dealing range. Top half of the dealing range is premium, bottom half of the dealing range is discount. Therefore, discount is at 159.11 and below.

[ashen spindle]

Rtings has an article about how they do it

[fickle ore]

Yeah the outlook for Q1 wasnt very good

[ashen spindle]

And it’s about to get so much worse

[fickle ore]

But my INTC cost basis is 28$ and AMD is 67$, im not too worried

[ashen spindle]

Nice

[fickle ore]

Im still bullish on INTC for 2024 and even more so for 2025-2028

If its doing bad now then its good time to buy if you belíeve in IFS and their server/cpu market going forward, and in any case it's a bet against current geopolitics

[ashen spindle]

I think desktop and servers are getting hit hard and I don’t see how maybe laptop alone can keep them going up this year lol

[marsh glade]

I firmly do not believe in their capacity to innovate their way out of a paper bag

[fickle ore]

They've traded blows with AMD for decades

Usually being on top

[marsh glade]

And then they got complacent

[ashen spindle]

Yeah and nobody ever got fired for buying IBM either

[marsh glade]

And it's been a solid 15 years since they've done anything remotely interesting

[fickle ore]

Sure but keep in mind markets look atleast 6 months forward, so if you know Q2 of 2024 will be the worst then Q1-Q2 is the time to buy

[ashen spindle]

Oh no I don’t recall any site showing what manufacturers do just review sites

[ashen spindle]

No I think q2 is the start of a bad 2024 for intel lol

[fickle ore]

could be or not, I see much more upside on INTC than AMD/NV on the fwd P/E's and growth they trading it

Cant sustain that growth

[ashen spindle]

Well you look at your Wall Street numbers I look at hardware performance numbers

[fickle ore]

😄

[ashen spindle]

And I don’t see how intel can make good magic numbers when they are getting another beat down

[fickle ore]

AMD's TTM P/E lol

just a reminder

[marsh glade]

Mmmm frothy

Music to my ears

[fickle ore]

They need inside growth numbers every Q to pull that off

[ashen spindle]

You mean better revenue every quarter?

[fickle ore]

Yea

[ashen spindle]

Doesn’t seem too hard

[fickle ore]

Company is doing super good but the issue is people have nearly priced AMD out of market imho

[ashen spindle]

The amount of people in HPC and sever that just want mi300 to not deal with Nvidia is immense

And on cpu side intel is not recovering when zen5 is out

[gusty kiln]

rumor is that the zen 5 X3D won't be out till 2025

[ashen spindle]

Yeah possible

[gusty kiln]

implying no threat this year

[ashen spindle]

Because no competition and people showed they are willing to double dip for those lol

[gusty kiln]

unless intel just go full blast

[umbral heron]

Yeah, 300W CPU!

[gusty kiln]

I'm only interested in intel's super low pwer chips

[astral haven]

n300 is crazy

[gusty kiln]

yeet

might get a n305 embedded mobo

[astral haven]

arent they alot more expensive than n300 systems?

[gusty kiln]

round 300 I think

4*2.5GBE and 6 sata for a nice storage server

2 m.2

[astral haven]

ah you want a storage server not a virtualization/router box

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle Think about it this way, AMD's mktcap is 0.3T, APPLE is 3T. So at most it could prob grow is 10x in this market. It has such insane growth estimates that it only commands a 48 FWD 12-month P/E, while the TTM P/E is 1600. How many years can it grow at this insane growth % to justify the price, and how many years doest it need to bring the P/E closer to tech stock average of 30~? If it can, that's freaking awesome. However there's a large downside risk like with TSLA

[gusty kiln]

yeah, at most just a few services and occasional VM

[astral haven]

https://www.servethehome.com/ikoolcore-r2-review-huge-leap-for-the-small-system-intel/

[fickle ore]

I like the company, I dont like the stock.

[gusty kiln]

yeah I saw the review for that, pretty cool

[ashen spindle]

I mean given that mi400 from the early whispers makes nvidia more scared than mi300 and intel just not getting a chance before that timeframe either I dont see them stopping in the close future

then with having pensando and xilinx it adds what you need around it for DPUs and such and you have a complete offering

[astral haven]

as a company sure, but they have to keep that far ahead of companies with much more money than them for the stock to stay that high

[ashen spindle]

yeah and I will not be surprised if they cant keep it up forever, I just dont see it fail with whats in the immediate pipelines

[astral haven]

yep but again we arent talking about the company performance

[fickle ore]

Yeah but most investors have a horizon of 5-10 years

[astral haven]

no

[ashen spindle]

lol no

[crisp granite]

yeah...ugh

[astral haven]

most investment dollars have a horizon of 5-10 years, but most investors by count are gambling

[fickle ore]

Oh lol I said most kekw

[crisp granite]

depends on the institution, majority are fairly long term, but not that long term
and the minority that produces retail is either self directed and volatile
or run through advisors and a lot more controlled

[fickle ore]

*should/are instructed to have a horizon of 5-10 rs

[crisp granite]

I sold a chunk of my AMD...pretty sure positive earnings are already priced into current price and tbh, I'm worried there'll be a selloff the moment earnings don't exceed the wildest of expectations

still holding some in case I'm wrong though

[fickle ore]

Im very worried as well. Was the earnings today or next week?

[crisp granite]

next week

[fickle ore]

Ill hold till then ig

[crisp granite]

tbh, I'm happy with the gains I've made on my AMD stock, more than willing to divest a bit and go into something else

[ashen spindle]

yeah its always better to take lower gains that already outperform rather than chasing a bitcoin unicorn

[crisp granite]

I think I made something like 70% since I bought it in autumn of last year

[crisp granite]

yes, but I'm still holding on to some, in case I happen to be wrong and it actually hits 200+ USD a share like some analysts think it might

[ashen spindle]

ye thats what I mean, I think it probably will too but not going to put everything on it since then its gambling like slots and not like poker lol

[crisp granite]

tbh
I put the proceeds from that sale into a different stock at a piss poor time
think I'm down a few percent rn xD

[ashen spindle]

haha

[crisp granite]

still up a stupid amount YTD, don't give many fucks

besides
it'll come back up pretty soon

earnings for that stock are...also pretty soon, and pretty sure that earnings report is priced into current, but it's also a long term hold for me

[astral haven]

yea my gambling account is mostly held up by amd, my actual account is on a boring target retirement date fund

[crisp granite]

"gambling"

tsk

I used to hold an Israeli cosmetic surgery product manufacturer
was going absolutely wild up and down dependent on the economy

divested in late september before...well
somehow Israeli companies weren't such a stable or sensible decision

pretty good while it lasted
wonder if some day some of their products will end up in me

[astral haven]

ah yes investing in the middle east, great idea

[crisp granite]

Israel was and still really is a beacon of stability

[astral haven]

so is a house of cards until it falls

[crisp granite]

nope

and what said company sells really is, for lack of a better way to put it, a luxury good

it'll be great as long as things are going great

tbh, probably should have bought more in the 7-10 aftermath

stock took a tumble and seems to have already recovered somewhat

[astral haven]

i mean if you wanna gamble, thats definetly gambling

[crisp granite]

nah, if I wanted to gamble, the horse track still has a betting ring

I just don't know if I'm still unwelcome

[marsh glade]

I locked in 3% this week and have 3% unrealized profit still open, I prefer this well far and above "investing" 😎

[astral haven]

its still gambling even if the percentages are high

[crisp granite]

amen to that
but I prefer calling it "investing for aggressive growth"

[astral haven]

or aggressive gambling

[crisp granite]

which is what it really is
not like I have a family to feed or anything

[crisp granite]

it isn't the level of gambling

[marsh glade]

People say gambling like it's a naughty word

[astral haven]

if you are putting money in that can go down, but you are hoping it will go up, its gambling

[astral haven]

this

[crisp granite]

gambling is "all or nothing"

and if I really wanted to be an asshole, I could 350% just set up automated trading system, and play off of volatility of some of the most commonly traded stocks
guarantee a percent or so a day idk

I just don't want to be taxed as someone who makes most of their income from that

[smoky frigate]

you're only supposed to do things that have 100% chances of success, don't risk anything smh

[marsh glade]

If you count cards at the casino to gain a legitimate and mathematical statistical edge, plus a helping of sound money management, you're still gambling. Laughing all the way to the bank

[astral haven]

gambling is not all or nothing, its any chance game with money

[marsh glade]

There ain't nothing in life that's 100%

[astral haven]

except death and taxes lol

[marsh glade]

Except death and taxes

[smoky frigate]

that was sarcasm, I don't use /s a lot

[marsh glade]

haha yea

[buoyant pond]

https://tenor.com/view/irs-taxes-warfare-suited-up-gif-26196595

[crisp granite]

losing means losing whatever was on the table
stocks go up and down with some certainty
some more than others
unless something is truly FUBAR, you should be able to exit with something

[marsh glade]

Remember kids, tax evasion is bad but tax avoidance is good!

So don't forget to set up your s-corp

[crisp granite]

oh
in Canada
we have a super cool account that allows for not paying of capital gains

delicious

[astral haven]

50% loss on a $100 investment is not $50 gained, its $50 lost, not sure what you are talking about

[astral haven]

us too ofc

[crisp granite]

100 bucks on the table at a casino on a lost game means 100 lost
every time

the markets have a higher degree of control

one can "lose"
without losing everything on a given position

[astral haven]

1 thats not true
2 $50 lost is still $50 lost even if you put in 5 million or whatever

[marsh glade]

One of these days we're gunna have a "Money Management with Akbar" fireside chat because there's some wild concepts being thrown back and forth here and I don't have the time to address them all 😂

[crisp granite]

as long as it includes a backyard bbq, texan style, with Mark

provide the europoors some actual culture

[marsh glade]

Money Management tip #1:
Don't grind brisket

[crisp granite]

...people do that?

my workplace has me grinding chuck, knuckle, shoulder clod, whatever
and trimmings to get proper fat ratios

[marsh glade]

Canadians are notorious for it

[crisp granite]

[marsh glade]

A company I used to work for made millions a year by buying briskets in Canada at just over commodity grind prices, shipped them to Texas, and sold them at a hefty premium

[crisp granite]

...that's perfectly fair

considering what a brisket goes for, and how often they really sell
it's often a crapload more effective to just...grind them

pretty much anywhere here
a brisket sells for less than ground beef, per kilo

I guess different cuts are prized in different places

in Brazil, they price top sirloin cap as they would strip loin
here, cap is an afterthought
most places don't even separate it from the top sirloin before cutting steaks and roasts

but that means it gets top sirloin prices
and therefore, often is rather cheap

[fickle ore]

I'm up 145 % on AMD, 208 % on META and 55 % on INTC 😄

I should prob divest a bit

2022 october was pog for stocks

[crisp granite]

definitely drop intel xD

or...actually tbh

[fickle ore]

Nah lolol it still has the most potential

[crisp granite]

hold it for now

[fickle ore]

diamond hands

xD

[crisp granite]

now that shit earnings have been priced in, may as well hold it till next time

[fickle ore]

Yep

[crisp granite]

you have no idea how many dumb memories that brings back

[ashen spindle]

yeah but next shit earnings are not priced in yet

[crisp granite]

may as well wait and see

stock might also recover a bit before then
which would be a decent time to sell

either way, safe to say Dag isn't on a tight timeline either

[fickle ore]

Nah lol

All I can afford to loose

Just mainly boring monthly add to FTSE/ACWI IMI world acc index.

but 2022 was so good to pick corps since everything was on a discount

[gusty kiln]

my S24U arrived, a very nice feeling brick

[astral haven]

nice!

[steep creek]

Neat, what color did you go for?

[gusty kiln]

I'm boring so titanium black

[steep creek]

Haha cool

[astral haven]

id ask how the zoom is but you dont have a phone with a 10x to compare against

[gusty kiln]

S20 FE is 30X

or at least fake 30X

[astral haven]

not real

[gusty kiln]

yeah

[astral haven]

1x real afaik?

wait no it has a 3x real!

[gusty kiln]

Oh wow, the anti-reflective works really well

side by side the S24U screen is pitch black when off, but I can see the light gray of my S20 FE

[astral haven]

thats strange

try in a dark room?

[gusty kiln]

colors do look a little duller on the S24U

probably because of the glass

[astral haven]

probably because they default to normal colors now instead of vivid?

afaik

[gusty kiln]

leme check

it was on vivid but natural looks better

[astral haven]

interesting

[gusty kiln]

Buds Fe fit really well, but still not as comfty as earbuds for me

[astral haven]

could try the comply
im getting real tempted to nab myself tho

[steep creek]

Sorta same

[astral haven]

i should wait for the xperia but its gonna be over double the price with all the preorder bonuses...

[steep creek]

I was thinking about checking out the Xperia but seeing Samsung with 7 years of updates and the flat screen I really dig

Pen is nice too for quick note taking

[astral haven]

yep

xperia has had a flat screen forever tho

and full size speakers are going away after the next model not yet

[steep creek]

Yea true but idk how I’ll like the narrow screen of Xperia

Maybe i get used to it but for now wider one seems more natural

[astral haven]

fair enough, its not that thin tho

71 vs 79 mm

[steep creek]

I will have to check it out someday in store

It is a nice looking phone tho I’ll say that

[astral haven]

and it has the fingerprint reader in the correct location

on top of the power button

as well as a dedicated camera button

[steep creek]

Yea as cool as they are, I’d take a fingerprint reader in the button over an under screen on any day

Sorta guesswork without the aod enabled

Sd card is also neat

[astral haven]

and headphone jack

[steep creek]

Yep

Lol now I might just wait for the xperia and see how that is

[astral haven]

problem is the discounts from it being new will go away on the S24U

and the xperia is gonna be obscenely expensive as per usual with sony

[steep creek]

Not too big of a problem for me because samsung doesn’t offer any real discounts here to begin with

[astral haven]

ah rip

[steep creek]

Just 150 off the 512 gb and a little off the 1tb

[thick elk]

Personally would not miss the headphone jack much on my phone, just sad the micro-sd is dying out.
I understand that they are generally not the most reliable things, I understand that most people didn't use them.
Doesn't mean I like it going away though.

[astral haven]

yea id pay 740 including trading in my old phone

for the 1tb

and also get the buds 2 pro

[steep creek]

I would pay about 1200 usd for 1tb with trade in

Just the phone

[astral haven]

Yikes

[steep creek]

Probably I’d get more back selling the phone instead

[astral haven]

I would like to keep my old phone around tbh, so I can root and use it as a video camera

[steep creek]

Fair, I usually just pass it to a family member or keep it as a spare

[steep creek]

That’s a nice idea tho I might do that

[astral haven]

Mcpro24fps is super sweet

[steep creek]

Sweet I’ll check it out

[astral haven]

My phone has firmware blocked access to the cameras by 3rd party software, so I have to root to get full access

😦

[steep creek]

Fortunately rooting is fairly easy compared to jail breaking 😂

[astral haven]

Eh afaik it's pretty similar these days

Used to be alot easier

[steep creek]

The community has really slowed down, don’t see as many jailbreaks come out now tho

Compared to like ios 9 era

[astral haven]

Same for rooting

[steep creek]

Aha? I didn’t know

[astral haven]

It's easier on pixel, xiaomi, and oneplus?

Samsung is a pain to the devs but they (devs) usually make a root available

The only good thing is on android alot of things are available via adb or launcher changes without having to root, more than beforr

[steep creek]

Gotcha yeah, I don’t know about one plus now but they used to be fairly relaxed about rooting

I remember them uploading a video on their YouTube channel on how to root the phone

[astral haven]

Yep
Dunno if that still is a thing

[steep creek]

Unsure

Also unrelated but one reason I want the s24 over Sony is because of dex, I heard it pairs really well with the xreal glasses 😁

[astral haven]

Sony has desktop mode

It's less fancy than dex but it's fully functional

[steep creek]

Oh sweet

Then in that case I might just wait

[astral haven]

You also have the option of Xiaomi also coming soon
And the find x7 ultra sounds insane

They don't have all the US bands which can be a problem

[steep creek]

Oh I’m not sure entirely but usually chinese brand phones are a bit annoying to get a hold of here

I can order them online but can’t test in store usually as they don’t have them

[astral haven]

I doubt Xperia would be in store?

[steep creek]

It is I’ve played a bit with it before

I’ve seen oneplus and some very select xiaomi models but never the flagships

[astral haven]

Interesting

mkbhd review is really positive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaqOejIaFgM

[astral haven]

oh rats peak design never made a case for xperia

[analog sinew]

1300$...

[steep creek]

Ah sad, I really enjoy my peak design case

[astral haven]

same

[steep creek]

It’s held up surprisingly well I’ll admit I didn’t think it would when I first got it

[astral haven]

same, tho its not quite compatible with my usb c magnetic adapters

[steep creek]

Yea clearance is a bit tight

[astral haven]

i took a utility knife to it a bit but it wasnt enough and i wasnt comfortable making the front any thinner

[steep creek]

Hm yeah those magnetic adapters can be a bit big

Still don’t have one so I’m just using my cable, that works well tho

Maybe you can find a smaller one?

[astral haven]

no dice, mine is the smallest style that works

it just barely fit but it bends the case

[steep creek]

Oh I see

[steep creek]

Just watched this and wow he did seem positive indeed, nice to see

[astral haven]

i forgot about the case :/

[steep creek]

For the Sony or?

[astral haven]

yea 😦

[steep creek]

Yea that sucks

I had spigen cases before but can’t see myself switching away from peak now

[astral haven]

ive also bought a bunch of the peak accessories

[steep creek]

Oh yeah I get that, I was thinking about getting the bike mount first

[astral haven]

thats it

also #archived_keebs_talk

or #archived_the_lekker_switch

[mental grove]

oh sorry thanks

[astral haven]

ive got a universal pole mount i use occasionally, but i daily a magnetic charger at home and in the car

[steep creek]

Nice

I don’t know if there are any other viable replacements, but it’s a shame for your accessories to not be compatible with anything else

[astral haven]

they kinda work with the magsafe stuff, but the peak design magnets are vastly stronger

[steep creek]

I was about to ask for magsafe yeah, but hm

Yeah to put it this way I don’t trust magsafe as much to hold up my phone against something like a bike

[astral haven]

yea and even the magnets alone on peak design id trust, but it also has the physical clips on top of that!

[steep creek]

That’s neat

Oh wow that’s looking sturdier than i thought

[astral haven]

lol yea https://youtu.be/WGLXoSVPi_k?t=152

[steep creek]

Hahah I’d rather it crack by force than fall off

[astral haven]

its super thin so it shouldnt be that strong, but even if it gets wrenched so hard that it breaks, it still stays attached lol

and its far and away the thinnest system except for magsafe

[steep creek]

I’m satisfied with that result lol, gives me more assurance

[astral haven]

yea i went peak after seeing this

after my samsung oem case fell apart

-_-

[steep creek]

Hah

What annoyed me about spigen, the kickstand on the back fell apart and never could be put back

[astral haven]

no kickstand without an accessory on the peak for android 😦

i think the iphones have one which is kinda strange

[steep creek]

That’s odd

[astral haven]

what I think is they are samsung only, and samsung puts the nfc coil near the bottom of the back

its always directly on the samsung logo

https://fdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s24-ultra-5g-sm-s928-2.jpg

and thats where peak puts the stand for the iphones

[steep creek]

Ah I see that could be it

Tho I read recently some magnet cases can cause s pen interference, have you heard about anything like this?

[astral haven]

yea, peak says issue on s21 and 22 (which i never had issues with) and resolved on s23 and 4

[steep creek]

Gotcha that’s nice to hear

[astral haven]

probably more important for the new phones that have the s pen built in

the external s pen on the 21u is alot larger

and doesnt need to charge (it doesnt have remote control capability)

[steep creek]

Yeah I think that’s right

Probably a minor issue at this point so I think peak accessories will work

[vernal void]

yo how much fps would I7 14700kf with a 4070 on 1440p get in fortnite and valorant? anyone know?

[crisp granite]

ok, let me introduce you to this wonderful thing called a "search engine"
what you do is you type what you're looking for, or the question you're posing
and it'll spit up results in terms of similarity to query

your operating system comes with one preinstalled, but you've likely got another installed as well
use whichever one tickles your fancy and have at it

[lilac socket]

is there wa difference between
Wooting 60HE+ - 60% analog keyboard and the full size keyboard

[vernal void]

https://tenor.com/view/party-smile-yapping-gif-16342222781629643311

[smoky frigate]

definitely enough to get everything out of your 360hz screen

which I assume you have.

[wheat plume]

OH FUSK SAKE AYANEO

THE HANDHELD THEY SAID WOULD USE STEAMOS IS GONNA HAVE WINDOWS INSTEAD

WHY???!!!!

[astral haven]

no shocker

[wheat plume]

They spent so much marketing about how it will use SteamOS
.-.

[astral haven]

holoiso doesnt have support, and it aint as stable as steamos

[wheat plume]

I know .-.

[ashen spindle]

why is that making you even so mad, not like you were going to buy it

[wheat plume]

I know...but I want more handhelds to have SteamOS

[astral haven]

thats on valve not ayaneo

[glad herald]

Not sure but I run a 14900k and a 4090 and I was getting near 600 fps in some areas more so around 400 to 500 valorent would probably get like 400 fps or something I would assume that game doesn’t take much to run it seems

[glad herald]

I’m eventually going to get a 1440p monitor though probably by the end of this year. I’m still running a 240hz 1080p

[vernal void]

i get under 400, plus my pc has been to the repair show twice in under a month i bought it 2. jan 2024

[glad herald]

That sucks it’s getting repaired. I recommend looking on YouTube though just search the specs I learned a lot from that

That’s usually what I do.

[vernal void]

imma see if i can return it because were i live there is a law that if you a issue with a product 3 times or more you can refund it

[vernal void]

i did i geuss i just got unlucky

[glad herald]

Where are you from?

[vague needle]

1440p has a very wide range of graphics settings, but you're going to demolish 1440p fortnite with that setup unless you turn on ray tracing and all the tech demo whistles

[unkempt lake]

@vague needle is it true every opinion you state is correct?

[vague needle]

that's pretty self-evident

[unkempt lake]

Woahhhhhh

[pale sigil]

Family photo

[severe phoenix]

3D print a 3D Printer

[pale sigil]

Ye

I will

[severe phoenix]

Then return the 3D printer

#LifeHack

[empty wren]

So reprap

Some printers can still be mostly 3d printed today

https://youtu.be/T5mJus0-5e0?si=T1AwYaY4jt9uaSP_

[cursive summit]

https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-ceo-bullish-about-chip-roadmap-and-confirms-arrow-lake-cpus-for-this-year-as-share-price-plummets-12/

I hate that word "bullish"

ARL is so uninteresting though

Ahh ARL is on a "2nm" process

I wonder what it competes with from TSMC, 5, 4 or 3nm

Panther Lake is on 18A, good process I suppose but I hope they just scale back on the insane clocks and go for power efficiency

[ashen spindle]

Most of ARL is on tsmc N3

So that tells you what intel’s 20A might compete with

[latent mural]

how do you know what batch youre in??

[cursive summit]

Wrong channel but alright

hub.wooting.io

[latent mural]

ty

[cursive summit]

You mean Meteor Lake?

Is there official information out that Arrow Lake will be part TSMC N3 and Intel 20A?

[ashen spindle]

Intels own slides from like a year ago

[cursive summit]

Ah, alright

[ashen spindle]

Also pretty sure Panther is just another mobile not desktop chip

[cursive summit]

Per article it says desktop

[ashen spindle]

Think it was kinda like MTL but not sure atm

[ashen spindle]

Ah think it was planned but we might get ARL refresh instead

So not really known what we get yet

ARL leaks this early just really made it confusing for future gens after lol

[cursive summit]

Oi @severe phoenix you are a fellow reddit goblin right?

How new is this fuckin layout

It just replaced the usual one like few days back

And I really don't like it

How do I go back

Ayyy it's back to somewhat normal, I had to set the layout to classic

Ok this is a piece of shit

If I set it to classic, it's normal until I refresh or reopen the tab and the new one takes place

[halcyon moss]

Reddit and bad ui

[severe phoenix]

No idea, still using old reddit

[halcyon moss]

Reddit web mobile is terrible, sometimes the back button just leaves the site

[severe phoenix]

When they started blocking third part reddit on mobile I stopped using mobile Reddit

[crimson wigeon]

I stopped ledditing entirely when they killed third party apps, no regrets

[severe phoenix]

Yep

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-drops-below-e900-in-germany-for-the-first-time

Not low enough imo

I'd consider if it was 800 flat

7900XT should be 700

[halcyon moss]

Still to much for a gpu

[cursive summit]

I am looking into 7900GRE

So many CUs, just need a good stable memory and base clock OC and it'd shine far more than 7800XT at same price

Pretty bad power efficiency though

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FawpRO6q4FM

Sounds like Apple's going to court again over the EU sideloading stuff on iPhones 😄

[ashen spindle]

Yeah it’s a bold strategy

[crimson wigeon]

We'll see if it pays off

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cq3K9lBli0

👀

[severe phoenix]

AI assisted Jail break.

[reef patrol]

Seems like it's a full jailbreak. Lets you run backups and more.

[cursive summit]

Free games yet?

[crimson wigeon]

Probably you can share backups

[cursive summit]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Core-Perf-Boost-Linux

What's a P-state

What's Core Performance Boost

Seems like a Linux thing

[severe phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weKOOZLbrzw

[smoky frigate]

basically dynamic clock control, adjust cpu speed for load

there are several ways to do it, AMD and intel are providing their own code for it

[ashen spindle]

As explained in the article or the linked articles about it

[frozen ingot]

yep its gonna happen

not a question of if but when

enjoy old cars while they legal/viable

[sharp badger]

Loads of changes there yeah wasn't there something about the taxes too?

https://www.automotivedive.com/news/Volvo-cars-diesel-vehicles-Europe-electric-vehicles-hybrid/694243/

This just feels dumb with the infrastructure of some countries, Ecodiesel would be a good thing wouldn't it? maybe i'm stupid as always

[frozen ingot]

volvo is hemmoraging money on their EV transition already, so yep this is just another nail in the coffin for their revenues

[rough osprey]

600hz tn this year

less go

[sharp badger]

The EV transistioning of all the car makers is just stupid, Subaru had som bad charging recently maybe it has been fixed and with the charging structures of countries it is not up to par

[rough osprey]

https://tftcentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Slide35.jpg

[steep creek]

Imagine you’re forced to accelerate to merge for example, and the car won’t let you, lol

I see

[frozen ingot]

polestar is practically bankrupt already and same thing will happen to volvo cars if they don't curb this nonsense

[sharp badger]

Yeah

The Polestar looks nice though (IMO)

Yes but it's just simple enough

That's also a nice 1

Would probably have quite a nice ''go-cart'' feeling

[halcyon moss]

Polestar sold a lot of cars though

[wheat plume]

cause who TF wanna spend 1,300 on a phone?

[sharp badger]

It's not a lot of money though? usually people keep their phones at least 3yrs

[astral haven]

It's still alot of money, but because you use it for so long it can be justified

[sharp badger]

1300/3 = 433,333333333

Sure it would be nicer if it would be cheaper but for me at least i've kept phones for 3 years+

[astral haven]

Same

[sharp badger]

And people just keep justify spending $$$$ on iPhones or Apple products

[astral haven]

I got a $550 discount on the 24u by turning in my 3 year old previous phone

[digital cliff]

but how about 270€/3

[sharp badger]

It all depends on your use case, sure 270/3 = 90 but it's up to you what you want out of the product, and 3 years is a ''long time''

[steep creek]

count me in on that. car that can fast charge without overheating 🙂

[halcyon moss]

I want a station, or equivalent

Those are coming to market now, Renault has one, vw soon, enyaq might be considered to be one. Peugeot has one. MG

[sharp badger]

People need to start to live a little too, save for what? sure it's good to save but we are here now, I do save though within limits

[astral haven]

I'm more aptera hyped
Don't need to speed up charging watts if you just use less energy for the same speed

[halcyon moss]

Aptera is cool, but not when having kids

[steep creek]

aptera is quite nice but my concern is it does not have that much storage space compared to bigger cars like ioniq, and a towing bar would be quite nice

[astral haven]

Ioniq 6 is pretty large but ioniq 5 doesn't have a ton more space
And the aptera will be able to tow

[steep creek]

you sure? thats news to me hm

[astral haven]

Still useful as a second car

[halcyon moss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/owsegj/truck_lifted_too_high_to_see_the_porsche_in_front/

[halcyon moss]

What is a second car?

[astral haven]

100%
Very low tongue weight support

[steep creek]

awesome

[astral haven]

It's a way to avoid having to get 1 vehicle that meets all requirements of multiple people

[halcyon moss]

Sounds very expensive

[sharp badger]

Is this at Hawaii?

[astral haven]

Full featured cars are extremely expensive
Cheaper to get 2 mid spec cars than 1 fully specced one

[sharp badger]

Would like to visit Hawaii sometime

Read somewhere that they don't like tourists though, but don't know if it's true and can't put this stamp on everyone

[steep creek]

I’m usually fine with a mid tier specced car, as long as it has a heat pump, heated seats & wheel, and towing possibility i don’t need the rest. I think excluding fees 2 low tier cars add up to make one mid to high tier specced

But with all road fees and such I believe (here at least) it’s better to stick with one car if possible

If that’s the case then yeah I agree

[sharp badger]

Sheesh not that bad honestly

How's Hawaii with modified cars?

[halcyon moss]

That's super cheap

[steep creek]

That is nice

[zenith silo]

Wish it was the same here

[digital cliff]

yeah for me it's kinda about the fact that sure, 1500€ divided into 3 years is 500€ a year and that divided into months is 40€ or so a month so not too terrible, but still 1500€ for a phone is unfathomable to me

it's such a large lump sum for such a fragile device that ultimately just needs to make calls and send texts, and be somewhat enjoyable to use

especially since life is not meaningfully worse off with a 270€ phone

[sharp badger]

Yeah but for some it's their ''PC''

[digital cliff]

yeah I understand that, and a camera

[sharp badger]

Yup

Don't have case for my S23U will probably bite me in the ass though 😅

[zenith silo]

I've learned that I shouldn't ever take my case off my phones

Every time id take my otterbox off for a few days my phone would end up broken

[digital cliff]

my next phone'll probably be a refurb iphone mini or normal iphone, whatever I settle on when it's time and whatever is sub-500 at that point

[halcyon moss]

My s21u is the first phone I got a case for.. It's just too much money

[zenith silo]

Rn I'm using a hand me down pixel 6

[digital cliff]

I got fed up with android not fucking working and me having to fight with it

[halcyon moss]

(and I've had androids since the g1)

[zenith silo]

I hate iOS

I dislike apple and iOS as a whole

[digital cliff]

I don't... like it, but I can learn to live with it if it "just works"

[steep creek]

at this point i dont mind either OS

[wheat plume]

🤔 thanks, I hate the location of ~ on mac keyboards

[analog sinew]

🤔 thanks, I hate the location of ~ on mac keyboards

[wheat plume]

same

[cursive summit]

Oh look, brain damage design

Like that Apple touch mouse which doesn't fuckin work

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/37bJqv81d98

this is pretty dope xd

[astral haven]

That depends on your carrier tho

[astral haven]

It's irritating because it intentionally wastes my time

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/zWWoU_JeNs8

i wanted one of these back then SOOOO BADLY

[thick elk]

Always kind of looked half-backed to me, still does

PSP go got pretty decent once it was hacked, storage still kind of iffy but otherwise nice and compact.

I got mine for fairly cheap after I broke my ds.

[wheat plume]

oh, thats why the modern gaming phones dont have slide up screens

Sony still have that patented

and will never use again ,-,

[thick elk]

It's not because of the patent, it's because it makes the phone itself bulky for a suboptimal controller

clip around controllers are just a better option in general.

If it were just the patent and they were a good idea sony would have continued making them.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/RyirQOCUUK8

[steep creek]

Oh at first I thought this was an esim advert lol

[wheat plume]

its a Calyx Institute hotspot advert!

WHY IS CIRCLE TO SEARCH GOOGLE PIXEL 8 (and Samsung S24 range) EXCLUSIVE?????

😢 I WANT

[cursive summit]

So a shitty feature for shitty phones

Don't contaminate my Sony phones with useless features

[wheat plume]

Nah, this feature is insanely amazing

[cursive summit]

It very much is not

[wheat plume]

yeah it is

I just saw a demo for it and gosh damn

[cursive summit]

Whatever you say

Seems unreliable and just another feature 99% of users will not know it exists but hogs space

[ashen spindle]

isnt it literally just making a circle instead of a second tap to select google search

[wheat plume]

yeah...its discoverability is bad

[ashen spindle]

I think you can stomach the few kilobytes it takes

[cursive summit]

I don't get why not just.. hold your finger on the text to select it and just press "Search"

[wheat plume]

its like using google lens to search google, you see a photo of some nice hotel view and circle that, itll tell you about what hotel it is and where

[cursive summit]

Instead do this whole finnicky uncomfortable draw thing

[ashen spindle]

so its just google lense removing a step

[wheat plume]

or you see some thing you like and wanna find out what it is, just circle it

[ashen spindle]

so a tiny QoL change

[wheat plume]

yeh, but it also searches the web, not just images like Lens does

[cursive summit]

Idk how you people are built, but I hate most swipe operations on phones, they don't feel good to the finger skin

The less continuous weird motions I have to do, the better

Tap everything

[steep creek]

You can also tap to search afaik

Never mind I don’t know actually

[astral haven]

Google lens also searches regular web results

[severe phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-gif-13768895

[vague needle]

What if your finger makes the initial motion and one of the screen elements it starts on is draggable

Does the thing that you don’t want to drag get dragged and the circle motion happens or does the thing you don’t want to drag get dragged and no circle motion is registered because you’re now dragging or swiping something

Or does it start ignoring drags and swipes to see if you’re doing a circle motion

Idk that sounds like a can of worms

[cursive summit]

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/25/apple-eu-fees-could-bankrupt-app-developers/

Asshole behavior as always from Apple

Unity did this - shunned, Apple does this - nobody talks about it

[halcyon moss]

Apple and asshole behavior.. That's nothing new. If they actually do something like unity, They'll kill the app development scene and thus one of the attractive points of ios

[misty saffron]

they didn’t do it the unity way, they made the new terms opt-in

[hasty thunder]

afaik Unity rowed back hard and even lost to Nintendos hoard of lawyers

[misty saffron]

european union being clueless as usual and not realizing apple spends too much on lawyers

[hasty thunder]

i'd love to see a fight like Nintendo vs Apple

Battle Royale Lawyers Edition

[reef patrol]

Remind me. Has the EU lost any of these suits yet?

[halcyon moss]

I know. It's a vex take.

[reef patrol]

All Apple has done is earn them another day in court.

[misty saffron]

i’ve heard clickbait headlines were made specifically for vex

[misty saffron]

what are they gonna do? get them another slap on the wrist fine?

[reef patrol]

Well yes?

[misty saffron]

they’ve just paid 12 times the paris case amount to moscow, they’ll be fine

[reef patrol]

Uhuh...

[misty saffron]

https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/01/23/apple-settles-11-million-antitrust-fine-with-russias-government

[halcyon moss]

Do ppl actually watch 3hours of the ltt wanshow?

[reef patrol]

I couldn't. The last two thirds is mostly fan sent questions iirc. And of course ADS

[halcyon moss]

And if you do, how shitty is your life

And how devoid of anything else worthwhile is your life

[thick elk]

I expect / hope most people that do, just put it on in the background

I watch it from time to time like that in the background at 3.5x speed

[ashen spindle]

I Check the timestamps to see if there is any interesting part and listen to that

But usually it’s just 1 topic that isn’t just news rehash

[thick elk]

That too, sometimes it's interesting enough, in general though it is not something I regularly watch

[reef patrol]

I could see myself have it on in the background while working. But I already have other obligations there. Namely about 285 hours left of this playlist, and then another season after that to catch up to (ongoing)

[ashen spindle]

Only interesting parts recently where about stuff like how something works for YouTubers so it’s like a behind the scenes clip, most shoes these days I don’t even watch segment because it’s just news rehash I know about and boring questions

[warm hollow]

Can anyone recommend good IEMs for Valo and CS2?

[thick elk]

I would say good for gaming in audio is not as much a thing.
In general I would personally highly recommend the Moondrop Chu II
Cheap and actually pretty good.

[frozen ingot]

I used to put them on to fall asleep to most of the time

[old marlin]

absolutely a thing

though I don't know anythign about IEM recommendations

[latent mural]

I’m using the 7Hz salnotes zero, is cheap and good

[thick elk]

I know it sort of is, but from what I understand a somewhat neutral frequency response is pretty good. With maybe some boosts on the frequency of footsteps and a reduction in bass.

[lofty pivot]

Em6l if you’re looking around the $100 range

[old marlin]

soundstage is pretty important

which is why a lot of people say that hd600/650 aren't that good for gaming

and why the hd800 is so good in comparison

[lofty pivot]

EM6L crushes anything else in that price range as far as footsteps and directional queues go for valorant

If you wait for chinese new year to start there's definitely going to be some minor sales from linsoul and such as well. Usually good to save $10-20 on the popular entry level iems

[thick elk]

We are talking about iem's though not known for the best sound stage in general.

[cursive summit]

There is

You really want spatial audio, so soundstage is incredibly important

Also if you are a geek, something like Atmos would also help

I've heard some Atmos demos and holy shit it's so damn good and accurate

Not the whole simulated 7.1 gimmick trash but some proper tech like Atmos

And IEMs, imo, are not "gaming" peripherals, you want headphones

Like, I suppose the Audeze Maxwell

[fickle ore]

yeah good luck getting that demo sound in games kekw

[thick elk]

That being said I am still doubtfull about actual competitive effects, considering the headphones pro's often being pretty bad for these things on paper.

[lofty pivot]

there's very big differences between IEMs and headphones that are good/bad for sound

some of my headphones and iems are very muddy in valorant, meaning I can barely tell if something is coming from the front or left/right at times, whereas others I can pinpoint them 2 rooms away

like my old pair of sennheiser 598s, absolutely trash for valorant and very confusing in game for a lot of things

[fickle ore]

Pinnacle of positional audio already existed in cs 1.6. The fact they cant do it these days is mind boggling

no point getting better headphones when the audio systems in games are so bad

[cursive summit]

CS has great HRTF sound tbf

[fickle ore]

its 100000x worse than 1.6 that didnt even have HRTF lol

How? who knows

[cursive summit]

Must have been some Turtle Rock magic

[fickle ore]

In 1.6 you could close eyes and win 1v5

[thick elk]

Maybe 1.6 just did not do any real simulation where in the real world sound propogates through rooms and can actively misdirect you

for example at home we can hear a train sometimes from the opposite direction.

[fickle ore]

Idek, but positional accuracy was 100% on point

always

And even z-depth wise

[thick elk]

if you don't bother to simulate the environment positional accuracy would be higher.

That being said I have not looked at how cs does it.

[fickle ore]

Imagine going through that effort and being worse than 20 year old game haha. Maybe such complex systems arent needed because theyre still not perfect?

Yeah I know sometimes you can hear random sound from different direction

[lofty pivot]

cs 1.6 is kind of a unicorn though, even it's movement was amazing

[fickle ore]

But idk if thats really a good thing to have in gmaes

[lofty pivot]

none of the cs games since then have been able to get the movement quite as crisp as 1.6

[fickle ore]

Yeah lol

[thick elk]

In general better simulations should create something that sounds more realistic, maybe some reverb, but if your goal is to trace people the best you could do is relatively simple.

Still general IEM wise, I may not have tried everything but for me the Moondrop Chu 2 is a pretty great option.
Cheap, sounds pretty decent at least, small enough not to be too problematic in my ears (a bit larger nozzle is a bit of a con here) but less than I expected.
At the very least if you want to try if using an IEM for these things is the way to go, there is no real risk with their price.

Only got mine to try if larger nozzles were problematic for me, saw no real reason to use anything else after.

[lofty pivot]

moondrop tend to be a bit muddy for fps games honestly

good for music and such, but footsteps can be muddy in game unless you want to eq

[thick elk]

Eq in general seems to be the right option if you want to optimize for a certain frequency range.,
I will say that I have not used them with gaming much, so there is that.

Given the choice at home I will take over ears anytime

[digital cliff]

yeah for me iems are strictly for phone use

desktop has my heavy overears

[thick elk]

I also have not experienced any of the muddy foodsteps as a problem, outside of using generally muddy sounding headphones.
So hard to judge on that. through the years to me my senheisser hd555's hd6xx and hifiman he400se all sounded fine in that regard.

as well as my moondrop aria and moondrop chu 2

[lofty pivot]

it's more once you use a pair of headphones or iems that have really good fps game soundstage/footsteps that the old ones become muddy in comparison

before you try it you'd likely not realize how clear the footsteps and such can sound

it's like loading up to a deathmatch and suddenly you can pinpoint people behind multiple walls to the exact location vs. knowing someone is roughly left somewhere

[digital cliff]

meanwhile I never cared for game audio, only a sound signature I like for music

[thick elk]

I have always been pretty good at pinpointing in general, I am also sure it does not matter much as on paper the gaming headsets pro's use are especially bad at that on paper. If I played competitive and it really mattered, I would care, but to me most things seems to point to it doesn't.
At that point you enter into the realm of the subjective and placebo effect pretty quickly. Even if it does actually sound clearer it may simply not translate to any meaningful difference.

For me personally music and how clear the human voice sound are important.
The later as it allowed me to bump up the playback speed of video's further.

But first and foremost comfort is priority number one. if comfort fails everything else doesn't really matter.

[lofty pivot]

pros use iems under their headsets these days

at least for competition games. In home setup they just use whatever because it matters less

[thick elk]

ah, didn't know that, but makes sense if only to block out the environment.

I do that on flights not having any anc closed back headphones with iems underneath, works really well.

[cursive summit]

https://www.techspot.com/news/101657-amd-ryzen-9000-zen-5-cpu-specs-launch.html

Who's even a reputable leaker nowadays

I've heard of HighYield but they sure aren't Kopite levels of reputable

I wonder though if Zen 5's Ryzen what, 8600? Would be the performance level of 7800X3D since 5600X3D is sort of on par with 7600X

[ashen spindle]

what are these pointless articles

none of that is a leak

litearlly just someones twitter post putting what he knows/thinks to know so far to have it in one spot

[cursive summit]

I mean, did we know that it'd have same IO die?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[cursive summit]

No new 10 core or such variant?

[ashen spindle]

no

[cursive summit]

Similar clocks?

Some of that info sounds.. new even if unreliable

[ashen spindle]

bit lower as new node yes

the only thing questionable is if its get ddr5 6400 validation

the rest is many months old

[cursive summit]

Also the article and tweet say completely different things lol

Tweet: same chiplet design as Zen 2/3/4

Article: rumored to use a hybrid architecture with a mixture of standard and dense "C" cores.

I mean, I have salivated enough on C cores to now know they are apparently servers and mobile only

[ashen spindle]

no that is not different

same chiplet design just means that, you have the io chiplet and the CCD

[cursive summit]

C cores wasn't a thing back in Zen 3, it's a Zen 4 thing right?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[cursive summit]

Still as we discussed, there's no point in introducing them in the desktop market

Maybe in some NUC but they just mobile chips there anyways

[ashen spindle]

they will probably end up on desktop in form of some apus that just end up there like they are in the Z1 and co

[cursive summit]

But is there any need in introducing dense cores on like an X3D CPU?

[ashen spindle]

#🔌│tech message as for io die info

[cursive summit]

Yeah but that's Zen 6 which is like what, 2 years away

[ashen spindle]

yeah and as I said afterwards zen5 has the same io die still, look at the date of when that was

so really not new

[cursive summit]

So where exactly are we expecting double digit IPC improvements from

[ashen spindle]

the cores

[cursive summit]

Node change won't bring that much

I guess Zen 5 is just further optimized

[ashen spindle]

clocks are going to be a bit lower

no its a new core design

[cursive summit]

AMD sure loves new core designs

[thick elk]

As does anyone that matters in the space