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[astral haven]

I'll give you a hint. One of these was capitalized manually. The other one was capitalized automatically.

[vagrant pagoda]

MBps, mBps, Mbps, mbps

[fair gull]

so both are capitalized

[astral haven]

Yep. So what happens is if you perform some normal operations for design work to them, or you use a font that doesn't differentiate between the two, the meaning is lost.

[fair gull]

we live in an age were we can either edit or quickly otherwise correct such mistakes

maybe im just too used to regularly correcting and differentiating between lower and upercase due to having spoken German for most of my life.

idk but to me this seems like whining on a high level

[astral haven]

Speak for yourself, until there is some form of technical literacy education in the biggest English speaking country, English will remain this way and you just have to cope

[fair gull]

english or american english

because when i hear just english i will assume british english

[astral haven]

Pretty sure the brits use bytes as well

[fair gull]

so do many languages that arent english id assume

unless they uses octets like france does

[fair gull]

as i already wrote to me i would assume iw as speaking for myself and my own opinion on this topic

its just amusing that in the age of everyone carrying a computer in their pocket we cling to conventions from pre 2000 that are easily fixed

this isnt IPv4 vs IPv6 where we overturn an entire system

[astral haven]

Yep but you are misrepresenting what you think when you don't clarify terms that you have non standard opinions on

[wheat plume]

I hate that a Youtube channel as large as LinusTechTips doesnt caption their videos .-.

[astral haven]

They dont?

[wheat plume]

got to use the janky automatic ones youtube has

NO .-.

[ashen spindle]

?

[astral haven]

I've never noticed an issue

[wheat plume]

Linus has a clear accent so they work well on him

[ashen spindle]

? these are both LTT

[wheat plume]

wat

[ashen spindle]

this one is CES coverage so not even pre planned

[astral haven]

Yea they do it manually later

[wheat plume]

Maybe im too early to this video then?

3 hours ago

[fair gull]

welp i guess MBps was standardized in 1999 by IEC 60027-2

sad i can only find newer editions

[astral haven]

60027-2-1999 has been withdrawn and replaced with 60027-2-2019 lol

[fair gull]

yes and from what i can tell they just ammend the list of units by expanding them

i really want to see the original filing though

[astral haven]

That's not withdrawn tho of it was an ammendment

[fair gull]

all sources i could find just mention the changes between the years to be expansion of units

as in literally those words

and i cant even verify what actually changed since i cant find the original documents currently

might be some fun detective work on the weekend

although I also saw it includes a ton more units than just telecommunications

also need to find the IEEE filing for the Mbps definition

[astral haven]

Another thing worth mentioning, though, is that standard for communication and technical standards sometimes are also different.

I am pretty sure that in this case they are specifically different.

[fair gull]

ill add that to the detective work i guess

[astral haven]

Although I would be surprised if anything besides MB/s and mbps were valid for use

[fair gull]

as mentioned when i still worked my old job and had more active talks with ISPs and network equipment manufacturers they did definitely treat them different when they said Gbps and GBps

so now i just wanna know whats actually right

[astral haven]

That is different lol

[fair gull]

well same for when i still dealt with Mbps and MBps

especially since Germany for a long time liked to advertise 16Mbps as 16000 Kbps

cause big number better

[astral haven]

Fun

[fair gull]

reminds me of the AMD64 x86_64 thing where im still not 100% sure what the correct term for the 64bit instructionset is

[astral haven]

Well, to be fair, I don't think anybody does.

And considering that a lot of folks cough Intel tend to be removing certain features from their newer stuff, you basically just need to list out the full feature flags.

[fair gull]

well i finished writing it into my notebook so i wont forget and i hope i can figure out whats actually allowed rn

[smoky frigate]

I feel like it always needs to be said what a sham internet in this country is

[fair gull]

well they did do this whole they need to bring the speed to X% most of the time

where you use the fun state made tool to test this

[smoky frigate]

I doubt I'd qualify, I use 4G internet since DSL home connection would be unrepentantly shit here, and I don't have several thousands to dig a cable connection

[fair gull]

the real scam is that cities have no right to refuse ISPs to dig up the streets/sidewalks time and time again in the same month when they could plan to pull all their shit in 1 go for like 10 companies

[smoky frigate]

on the bright side the 4G is rather good

[thick elk]

Coming back to those AirJet coolers, they are interesting tech but like with most alternate means to move air efficiency is the problem. This makes it a tough sell for battery powered device.

Anyway time for bed, feels too much out of context right now and not much of a conversation to be had, nor should I at this time.

[astral haven]

It's particularly sad when cellular is faster than wired

[fair gull]

how do they even work if they are solid state

[astral haven]

Solid state doesn't mean no moving parts. It just means that the component is 1 solid object that may flex or bend

[thick elk]

I think something like vibrations combined with a membrane only allowing air one way.

[astral haven]

Exactly how they work isn't public yet, but they are almost certainly piezoelectric.

[thick elk]

They definitely do have benefits, I just don't think they are well suited for laptops.

[astral haven]

Laptops I think they do work for, but it has to be high power and extremely thin
Tablet style for example

[smoky frigate]

it's not far behind a wired connection, even for lag actually. it's also a 5G subscription, but I won't pay 500bux for a 5G router lol. especially when phones have had it for years now. I kind of played with the idea of taping an android phone to the attic window to get 5G internet, but I doubt it'd be that good (plus, android sux about keeping hotspots running)

[astral haven]

They would be perfect for surface pro

[thick elk]

As long as the heat to dissapate is low enough and the device needs to be thin enough, sure

[astral haven]

My grandmother's apartment has wired adsl at 12/5ish mbps my phone easily passes 200/70

And here at my home my upload from my phone is faster than my cable although download is slower

[thick elk]

My parent's apartment in france still has pretty slow dsl, here 4g is definitely faster until they finally lay some fiber.

Also the new apartment isn't even equipped for dsl anymore so no choice really.

you could do it but at a cost that is simply not worth it.

[smoky frigate]

I kind of do wonder how feasible ghettophone 5G gateway would be. I don't trust android not to make it unnecessarily difficult

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51sct7TFZAL._AC_SL1500_.jpghttps://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51sct7TFZAL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

hmmm'st.....

[astral haven]

nah
just buy a cheapo router that supports usb tethering

and use the phone purely as a modem

[smoky frigate]

oh my god, my router supports that I might actually give this a go

[thick elk]

Actually pretty easy to do, did it when I got a temp 4g connection at home, when our fiber cable got unplugged at the neighborhood switch and it took a day for my provider to send someone / get the company managing that thing to allow him in.

[smoky frigate]

yeah 4g is ubiquitous. I'm wondering whether I can get more bandwidth / lower latency using a 5g phone over a 4g router

the subscription is for 5g, but the routers are stupendously expensive

[thick elk]

You could also look into usb-adapters that take simcards for your existing router, though I don't know how effective they are.

[smoky frigate]

whether less or more effective than a phone... I have a few days off from work, I might try it

[thick elk]

Phone should work, but I am unsure how it handles being used that way long term, you may need a weekly or monthly reboot or something like that.

[smoky frigate]

yup. it's probably a horrible idea. which makes it all the more interesting to try

[astral haven]

the other issue is that many cell plans have nonsense done to detect if traffic is tethered, and you have to deploy countermeasures

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/sparkle-introduces-arc-a310-a380-low-profile-gpus

[thick elk]

Depends on the country though, I think at least the Dutch ruling about net neutrality says they are not allowed to differenciate.

[astral haven]

I doubt it

[thick elk]

Celular providers just have a xGB a day limit after which you need to increase it.

[astral haven]

well yea

but like i pay for unlimited for my phone but its limited to 5gb of tethering

[thick elk]

https://www.acm.nl/en/publications/publication/17329/ACM-requires-telecom-company-Tele2-to-adjust-its-conditions

[astral haven]

My usage on wifi is at the bottom of the screen too

oh wow thats probably why there arent any "unlimited" plans in the eu

well many

[thick elk]

There are unlimited plans here, they just require you to up your limit after using 5-10gb in a single day, you can do so as much as you want.

[astral haven]

ah

[smoky frigate]

that's nothing to worry about, the connection unlimited + meant for home use. I can torrent as much as I want

[astral haven]

so it slows you down but you press a button and it speeds back up?
or it stops and you have to restart it?

[fair gull]

but tele2 doesnt exist anymore

[thick elk]

Also price wise there are home 4/5g plans in a few countries which are also unlimited, and not that expensive.
The net can take it when there are other options

[smoky frigate]

nothing stops you from getting a "home" subscription that's truly unlimited, even in traffic type. Vodafone (german ISP) has one of these

[thick elk]

yea but the ruling still stands and other providers follow it, so it's still relevant.

[smoky frigate]

doesn't even limit your location

[fair gull]

germanys phone plans are horrible though

reminds me still need to find the cheapest one to move my number to

[smoky frigate]

check freenet, they hawk plans for less than you'd pay normally

[fair gull]

like i literally plan to get one of those no free minutes, no free sms, no flatrates no internet sims

just to keep the number available nothing else

[unkempt lake]

Want me to tell you about canadian phone plans?

[fair gull]

please do

[astral haven]

yea here home 5g is $50 for unlimited 😦
and the modem they come with is only barely better than a phone

[unkempt lake]

They're awful

[smoky frigate]

the phones are filled with bacon and maple syrup

[analog sinew]

yum

[fair gull]

i expected some sort of rant or something

[smoky frigate]

I pay 35bux for 100mbps unlimited 4g... but it's usually around 40-60. not bad all things considered. o2 (the provider) can do some things right, sometimes

[fair gull]

freenet seems to be the cheapest at 5eur a month

thats

[unkempt lake]

Sorry i got busy

[fair gull]

cheaper than my current german plan

[unkempt lake]

But tldr

Awful pricing especially for data

1-2 bars or no signal most of the time

If you live in "isolated" areas get fucked

[astral haven]

i mean it is a large country

[smoky frigate]

freenet is pretty good. I still use a french SIM card from when I used to live there. no internet, but I get telekom net as a "foreigner" for 10bux a month lel

[unkempt lake]

And a triopoly from 3 large providers with no competition

[astral haven]

we also have a triopoly here in the us and we have waaaaaaaay more population

[cursive summit]

The nordic Tele2?

[unkempt lake]

https://mobilesyrup.com/2023/05/16/canada-19th-most-expensive-mobile-data-report/

This site has a pretty nice map of cost around the world

[smoky frigate]

mobilesyrup, of course

I knew that it would be true!

[astral haven]

i imagine that overlaying a population density map with a coverage map would line up pretty well lol

[unkempt lake]

I still have the right to not enjoy being fucked in the ass by cell providers

[astral haven]

youve clearly stated you dont yet lol

[smoky frigate]

I've heard a canadian describe the country as a very loose 51st state, so that map isn't so shocking to me

[unkempt lake]

You could apply that to all of canada besides quebec

The rest of canada is basically us lite

[wheat plume]

Nah
Games usually don't work due to anticheat

[unkempt lake]

I was gonna say steam deck users be like

Since they're babies

But i didn't type it fast enough @wheat plume

Proton's pretty good nowadays

If you want linux on a desktop

[wheat plume]

Proton is still way easier on Deck oddly enough

I guess it has to be for the Deck to actually play most shit

[umbral heron]

It kinda looks like this if you want to play with mods though

[wheat plume]

Same on Windows xd

But you can use a mod manager on Windows at least
Linux requires manual mod install

[umbral heron]

I mean some mod managers have their Linux versions, r2modman for example

[wheat plume]

Usually if you mod the game on Windows then transfer it to the deck , then it works

[astral haven]

that sounds like pain too

[umbral heron]

Most of mod managers also work if you try to run them in game's prefix, Diva Mod Manager and SnakeBite work just fine

[wheat plume]

Yeh...

Oo

[ashen spindle]

that really depends how much they block it hardware side with extra "security" chips

talking about future hardware

[astral haven]

I thought there was issues with internal storage?

[ashen spindle]

maybe, didnt follow asahi for a while

but the more it gets locked down in the future the more that takes people away from getting it to work

for my desktop I think when I do my next upgrade after this yearz zen5 upgrade linux might work good enough for me to try it

so like 2026/27

on apple, probably not before

[umbral heron]

Asahi going strong, lately they started helping with Wi-Fi drivers for Raspberry Pi 4/5

[ashen spindle]

damn rpi switched to apple silicon?

[astral haven]

ah it seems like they have mostly fixed the boot issues, no more needing to manually boot to usb

[umbral heron]

They are porting Broadcom drivers from Android to rpi, because WPA3 support is still spotty there

[astral haven]

I'm really not interested in apple hardware besides the vision pro tho :/

i do really hope the deckard comes, that will be a linux device that isnt android that i can daily

[ashen spindle]

not quite what most people would call a linux device though xD

but same though

[umbral heron]

Switching to new phone... Now I can see why setting up 128 random letters password to Google acc was not the greatest idea of mine -.-

[astral haven]

diceware for the win

[umbral heron]

I usually use bitwarden, so it's not an issue
But I can't download it without getting into Google Play...

[astral haven]

yea but if its completely random letters, you didnt use diceware

my password manager uses diceware to generate passwords

[umbral heron]

Yea, I use bitwarden's inbuilt one to generate

[astral haven]

https://www.eff.org/dice

[ashen spindle]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmc-delays-3nm-arizona-fab-by-a-year-cites-lack-of-us-subsidies-and-waning-demand @marsh glade

[mild dome]

I suppose these projects cost a lot of cash, plus the executive suite wants to double the size of their super yachts...

[analog sinew]

yeah the government can handle pesky investment and risks

only profit is for corporate

[shadow minnow]

Ah ffs razer can’t make a working firmware updater tool

Nor a macOS version of synapse but that’s a smaller issue

Attempt no 1000 to try to get the firmware updater to not stop at 0%

[raw zephyr]

razer + software = lol

[shadow minnow]

It’s so annoying because I can’t get what I payed for working without updating

The 8khz dongle that is

Was curious to try it

But the mouse won’t update so won’t get detected

Oh there’s no way this would be a fix

Lmao

Let’s see as it worked for multiple people

Apparently unplugging the mouse during the 0% stage and replugging when prompted may fix it

[raw zephyr]

that doesn't sound good rofl

[shadow minnow]

This issue occurred two months ago already what the hell are their devs doing

[raw zephyr]

making the finest rgb effects

[shadow minnow]

wtf it works now after replugging mid update

It didn’t work right after replugging

Least incompetent peripheral maker software

It’s crazy how much better wooting is ngl considering the company size, especially back in the days

I would have thought razer has more money to dev

[fair gull]

least incompetent? from what you described they sound quite incompetent

[shadow minnow]

Yes but by least I mean this is a standard

Logitech fw was also an experience

It’s a meme way to say they’re very incompetent but most other companies are too

[final flame]

I'd argue razer is among the most incompetent

[shadow minnow]

Probably tbf I only tried razer and Logitech for mice and both are in a race to be the most incompetent

[final flame]

it's really only the gaming division of logitech that's incompetent

[shadow minnow]

May be that way tbh I only tried their g hub and it woudlnt launch half the time

At least I could update the firmware And it was for Mac

[final flame]

may be that way? I'm telling you straight up as someone who dailies a mx master and owns a g703

I have used both sides of the same coin

[shadow minnow]

Welp 8khz works on macOS nice

Tbf only difference I’ll probably be able to tell is the battery life decrease

[zenith silo]

Yep

[reef patrol]

https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/11/01/israel-gaza-adobe-artificial-intelligence-images-fake-news/

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-thumbs-up-oh-very-good-jim-carrey-approve-gif-5165827

[raw zephyr]

i believe this is not the first time something like this has happened

[wheat plume]

I know Irish tech stores don't really have a good spec list for their products

But this...
Wtf is this shit??!!??

Clearly the most comprehensive spec list ever

/S

[reef patrol]

Bit early for the daily dose of Lanaposting.

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-duck-cute-adorable-gif-14974530

[cursive summit]

You mean hiyoriposting?

[wheat plume]

Yep
Cause I need to be somewhere soon and it takes ages to get there cause of traffic in morning

[reef patrol]

Yeah I ain't calling it that. 😛

[cursive summit]

How does that have anything to do with anything

That sentence is literally lanaposting

[wheat plume]

Mansen commented how early I am sending this

Therefore i explained why

[cursive summit]

But why lanapost instead of normalpost

[digital cliff]

no he commented on the lanapost being early in the day, not that you're up early in the day

english, friend

[cursive summit]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/samsung-may-charge-users-for-galaxy-s24-ai-features-after-2-years/

Of course

Those costs will rack up insanely

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/amd-axes-old-xilinx-cpld-chips-less-than-two-years-after-acquisition

[cursive summit]

https://gpuopen.com/learn/introducing-gpu-reshape-shader-instrumentation-toolset/

[shadow minnow]

I really hope Microsoft gets slapped with anti competetive again with the stuff they’re doing with edge

[lilac fox]

What are they doing I’ve been living under a rock

[shadow minnow]

Pop ups in other browsers to try to get you to use edge, edge reminding you why it’s great, pop ups not opening in default browser and telling you to use gpt powered edge, and in fact apparently in some cases some links can’t be set to not auto open in edge

[wheat plume]

The windows search only opens results in edge too

And the office suite and outlook only open links in Edge

[shadow minnow]

New mouse vs old mouse

[reef patrol]

Easy to disable.

My search is 100% offline.

[lilac fox]

Which is nicer

[wheat plume]

If you click a web result... it only used edge to open them

[fair gull]

oh no it uses a quite competent browser thats also just chromium based like any other browser

[shadow minnow]

So far the new seems to be way more well rounded.
On the old one the side buttons and wheel button sucked, here all buttons are nice. And it’s 66% of the weight

No RGB oh well

Also 8khz ig

[lilac fox]

For like tracking or aiming ?

[shadow minnow]

Idk I haven’t tried gaming with it yet just was trying out the general stuff

[lilac fox]

Ahh let me know when you find out

[green remnant]

If I leave my wireless mouse on while my pc is off will it drain battery

[lilac fox]

Maybe depends on the mouse

[green remnant]

Lamzu?

[lilac fox]

I wouldn’t know but most mice battery won’t go down

[green remnant]

Good

Cause I keep letting it stay on

I just forget

[pale sigil]

Which one is newest

Also hoes that computer without a GPU treating ya

[shadow minnow]

Left

[shadow minnow]

All I used it for is to update mouse fw lol

Mac gamer I do be

[pale sigil]

Bet you're kinda glad you didn't get a GPU now

[shadow minnow]

Very much so

[pale sigil]

True patient gamer

[umbral heron]

Why tech corporations are the way they are?
I had to resort to 3rd party backup app to move my SMS from old phone, because Google's backup solution is too stupid to restore them on already pre-configured phone

[reef patrol]

People use SMS?

[umbral heron]

I do

[reef patrol]

Genuinely don't know a single soul who does in this country. It's been relegated to 2FA and scams 😄

[umbral heron]

I mostly use them to contact with my family, after the experiment with trying to move them to Signal failed horribly

[reef patrol]

Everyone moved to Facebook Messenger back in the day, and are still using that for chat.

[cursive summit]

Messenger is pretty damn cool

Free messaging is cool

If I didn't need a phone number for 2FA and other security stuff, I'd prolly get rid of it

There's like, Telegrams and Vibers and whatever else that exists nowadays to replace conventional messaging and calling

[umbral heron]

Counterpoint - I don't have Facebook All I use is either Discord or Signal

[cursive summit]

Can you explain why would anyone want to use Signal

[umbral heron]

Because most of my friends and coworkers do?

[pale sigil]

Lucky

[cursive summit]

Huh, fair

It doesn't do anything else other than messaging right?

Not a social media app?

[umbral heron]

Nope, messaging, calls, video calls, that's it

[cursive summit]

Huh, I didn't know you can do calls with Signal

Is there any kind of encryption on calls?

[umbral heron]

Yeah, that's the selling point of it E2E

[ashen spindle]

its one of the better ones for encryptions, uk tried to force it open and they said they just leave the uk if they want that

[wheat plume]

Got to love how Steam Deck OLEDs sold out in an hour in Japan on the latest restock

[ashen spindle]

and without knowing stock numbers that means absolutely nothing

[halcyon moss]

Stock of 10

[umbral heron]

And 20 in Akihabara

And Microsoft Authenticator doesn't allow for moving tokens to another phone via QR code, great

[halcyon moss]

Google authenticator only does so since fairly recent

[umbral heron]

Yeah, which use for pretty much everything, I have to use MS one for work account

[shadow minnow]

Any idea how to save a profile to onboard memory on razer mice?

Oh seems like it’s saved by default until connected again to a device with razer synapse

[wheat plume]

any steam deck nerds know how to get this UI????

[reef patrol]

Did you consider if it is just a render?

[wheat plume]

an animated one!

the home screen was the same though

but it had a nice animation where the capsule art transformed into the hero art when hoing into the selected game screen

super clean

[digital cliff]

there are dozens of us!

I only use SMS or Signal haha

but I have like, 2 people on signal and the rest I have to SMS with

it's really not that different from any given instant-messaging app with... what's it called, RCS?

you get reactions and replies and all that

[wheat plume]

I hope the Steam Deck 2 also starts at 400 dollars

[reef patrol]

sms 4

Also no images with SMS.

[ashen spindle]

we wont get a steam deck 2 before 2026 any price speculation makes no sense

[reef patrol]

How do you even send maymay!

[digital cliff]

with RCS the image part is not a problemo 👌

[reef patrol]

RCS isn't SMS though.

[wheat plume]

yeah I know

[umbral heron]

With... drum roll MMS!

[digital cliff]

it's close enough

[reef patrol]

You see - If someone sends me an MMS, I get a link in an SMS from my phone plan provider.

[digital cliff]

lul

[reef patrol]

Like it's some kind of one time 2FA code.

Cause that's how MMS works.

[digital cliff]

I just get it like a normal image

though very compressed and crappy

[umbral heron]

Yeah, me too

[reef patrol]

And this is why we skipped straight to messenger here.

MMS never caught on, and was silly expensive back when it was relevant.

Like 50€C for one.

[digital cliff]

I'd have no problem using an instant messaging app if they all weren't prying into my data so much lol

[reef patrol]

As opposed to checks notes your phone provider?

[digital cliff]

unironically yes

my phone service provider is like a nobody

vs letting the literal biggest corporation on the planet do it

to me it's an order of magnitude less worrying

[digital cliff]

whose entire business model is based on spying on people, mind you

[wheat plume]

The ChromeOS taskbar is getting really packed

barely any free space on it

[digital cliff]

chromeOS is still going?

[pale sigil]

Yes and it's dope these days

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/T8guIluwXfE

[digital cliff]

I dunno if an OS that lets me do only a tiny percentage of the things I can do on the other OSs is "dope"

[wheat plume]

yeh... xd

[digital cliff]

I think I've ever used it once, and it did what it needed that time so, I guess I don't have experience to call it out at any rate

[umbral heron]

It even has Steam nowadays https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/14220699?hl=en

[digital cliff]

but from what I gather it's fairly limited

[wheat plume]

Nearby Share Self-Share is a huge new feature for ChromeOS 120
Google
hides it behind a Chrome flag you need to manually find and enable in order to get Self-share to work

what tf, makes no sense

one of the largest features in the update is disabled and hidden behind a chrome flag?!

now its even more cluttered since he started playing audio

it look good tthough

[steep creek]

Apple Vision Pro storage pricing

It’s available for preorder now lol

[cursive summit]

And the storage is used for.. what

[steep creek]

Apps, movies all that I guess

[cursive summit]

It doesn't cost 400$ to go from 256GB to 1TB, Apple..

Apple LOVES markups

It's just sad

[steep creek]

I wonder how much the zeiss prescription lenses cost

Probably more than the storage 😂

[ashen spindle]

150

[steep creek]

Ah I see

[ashen spindle]

256 in demand for it to already be pushed to March if you order now

[misty saffron]

surprisingly sane

[reef patrol]

Considering scrapping my last metal drive.

Got my "meh" 4TB NVME I use for OS. So I could buy a fancy new 4.0, 2TB for my OS, and swap the 4TB with the metal platter.

[ashen spindle]

I made the mistake and wanted to put a project I only needed to open to compare things to on my HDD

im also scrapping this after I'm dome

it is soooooo slow

[reef patrol]

I can start feeling the metal slowdown, while doing some cuda reencoding stuff 😄

[misty saffron]

meanwhile i keep my decades old 256gb hard drive for the cute sounds it makes

[ashen spindle]

id rather go the EV route and have that sound play on speaker if you like it

[misty saffron]

can't do that exactly on boot 😭

[fair gull]

sounds better than my first own PCs IDE drives

[misty saffron]

it's not that old, probably around 2006

[fair gull]

thats earlier than when i got my pc

tbf it was second hand so idk how old the hdd was and sadly have thrown it away long long ago

[misty saffron]

surprisingly still doing fine

[reef patrol]

fine

[misty saffron]

hey, respect your elders

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/future-is-now-old-man-future-is-now-malcolm-in-the-middle-iota-tanglevision-gif-22172633

[astral haven]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-Vision-Pro-has-a-6-5-MP-3D-camera-16-GB-RAM-and-the-fastest-Apple-M2-virtual-monitors-are-only-1-080p.794869.0.html
Ah shoot, it seems they arent doing variable PPD otherwise the virtual monitors would be higher res
what a shame

[analog sinew]

memory upgrade only 1699 for 8 gig probably

[ashen spindle]

there is no ram upgrade option

[analog sinew]

hm?

storage only?

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/yk_u9fbkoKM

[astral haven]

probably yup

[wheat plume]

America really looks so damn barren and flat

[ashen spindle]

well yes you dont upgrade ram on any vr headset

[astral haven]

thats like saying europe looks barren and flat because youve only seen pictures of the netherlands lol

[wheat plume]

xd

[steep creek]

lol

[ashen spindle]

yeah you gotta compare it with europe where you wouldnt say all of europe looks like the swiss hills either or like italian wineyards

they have quite a lot of land

[astral haven]

and if you want to see flat, youve gotta look up pictures of florida

[wheat plume]

provo???!!!!!

Come out Ye Black & Tans intensifies

[astral haven]

the superchargers are either named after the city they are in (if theres only 1) or the street its on if there are many

[wheat plume]

the brits hate Provo street xd

[astral haven]

oh yea wow air suspension is awesome for hooking up a trailer

[steep creek]

https://youtu.be/luFGI13Mv8o?si=JCHyM3BmG34EzmeF

[severe phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1K_t7lsko

[wheat plume]

Elon must be a fan of Cyberpunk xd copied the font for the Cybertruck

THEY ADDED THE FUCKING WINDOW SHATTER AS AN EASTER EGG IN THE UI LOL

spam tap the window and it shatters

I want an EV simply because of how quite they are.... I love it, so calm

[ashen spindle]

been saying it, give me a strix halo handheld and that can run games better than switch 2 on release lmao but idk if we will see it in a handheld that uses so much power

[fickle ore]

Cybertruck is so heavy lol

Using Outokumpu's chrome steel frame :3

[severe phoenix]

The Switch 2 is gonna be weaker than the SD1

People need to accept this

😛

[astral haven]

its the lightest EV truck

[wheat plume]

its lighter than the Ford Lightning and the Rivian

[ashen spindle]

yeah but emulation doesnt mean you can run it on SD with the same performance, STX-H could do it better

[severe phoenix]

Even when the Switch released, it cost under 100$ for Nintendo to make it. With the SD's hardware, Valves profit margin is thin. Nintendo will not accept a thin margin.

If Switch 2 has backwards compatibility, I'd be shocked

[ashen spindle]

SD hardware specs might be better but emulation overhead for brute forcing these things will still take a hit

[wheat plume]

with Nintendo, 50/50 chance of backwards compat

:/

[astral haven]

if the steam deck was doing the volume of the switch, it would have similar margins

[ashen spindle]

hence just give some something that eats it for breakfast and wont care about the emulation penalty xD

[fickle ore]

@astral haven Lol what do they make?

[astral haven]

supermicro?

[fickle ore]

Yee

[astral haven]

oh you legit dont know
they make servers, chassis, motherboards, systems

[severe phoenix]

lol

[astral haven]

i would bet that stock jump was a big order from someone?

[fickle ore]

Wow oke, havent heard of them outside of seeing them in yahoo and my friend keeps recommending it hehe

[astral haven]

that surprises me lol

they are huge in servers

supermicro, hpe, lenovo, cray

[severe phoenix]

We'll see if they even do emulation

[halcyon moss]

Dell?

[severe phoenix]

I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be upset with the Switch 2

[wheat plume]

I want a damn tesla

[halcyon moss]

Really?

[wheat plume]

or get a test drive of one sometime at least

well, an EV in general

but the control panel of the Tesla is the nicest IMO

[halcyon moss]

Get a job with a leasecar :p

[wheat plume]

yeah hah

[reef patrol]

Do you even have a single EV charging point in the entire republic?

[wheat plume]

Yeah

xd

we do

there are a lot nearby actually

[astral haven]

they are not as popular any more but they are still up there yea

[fickle ore]

Do you got Kempower made charging stations in there?

[astral haven]

does kempower make chargers?
i thought they were just a rebrander

[fickle ore]

Finnish manuf.

[astral haven]

yea but do they manufacture equipment or just the boxes that the equipment goes in

[fickle ore]

Im not sure 😅

[halcyon moss]

I don't want a tesla.

[astral haven]

agreed
but we all want to have a vehicle that has the ability to use tesla charging stations

and here in the us at the moment the only option is tesla

[wheat plume]

cant ford use tesla cargers too?

[astral haven]

not yet

[wheat plume]

I know some brand was allowed use them

yet? oooh

[astral haven]

they are allowed

but they dont have the right port yet

[wheat plume]

aah

[halcyon moss]

Since they are ccs now.. Yes they can

[astral haven]

not in the us

at the moment there are 5 ccs tesla stations in the us, and they all are in the northeast, near new york

[halcyon moss]

In the US it is the other way around. Car makers are adopting the tesla connector

[astral haven]

yall europeans who have a government who pays attention have waaaaay more options than the us

[astral haven]

nope

[halcyon moss]

Yes they are

[astral haven]

they have promised that they will eventually adopt it

but currently the only car company besides tesla who has a tesla port on an actual vehicle is aptera, and they also are prototypes only

you cant even purchase an adapter to use a ccs car at a normal tesla station yet (also promised but doesnt exist)

you can buy an adapter to use a tesla slow charger, but not a fast charger

j3400 only got ratified a few weeks ago, (the official standard for the tesla plug)
and tesla doesnt support it yet

[simple grove]

any word on when 8khz polling is making it's way to wooting? what's the technical limitation does it just need a faster PCB and processor?

[ashen spindle]

it's more or less a waste on a keyboard compared to a mouse

[plain crest]

Pulling rate in keyboards? How would that work? Does it have sensitivity? Because I guess it would just be measured in mm and or micrometers 🤔

[astral haven]

polling rate in mice is independent from sensitivty, and the actual position sensing its just how often the computer is informed of the position

same for keyboards

[plain crest]

Aha, so that would be how fast the keyboard responds?

[ashen spindle]

polling rate is how often the keyboard reports data to the pc

[tawny hemlock]

i thought the exact same thing when i was watching the video

[ashen spindle]

so 1kz means ever 1ms

[plain crest]

Yes, would that mean a faster responsetime?

[crisp granite]

assuming you're willing to spend a hell of a lot more on the keyboard, because it will cost a hell of a lot more, and have a PC that can keep up, maybe

[plain crest]

That would also mean you can be more accurate in key height right? So you could add in 0.01 milimeters?

[crisp granite]

no
that's completely different

[plain crest]

😔

[plain crest]

So it wouldn't be more precise or be faster response time, why would you have 8k pulling rate then?

[crisp granite]

it would have faster response time
that is exactly what higher polling would do

precision is tied to something outside of the polling rate, being sensor sensitivity
currently it's set to be 255 steps along the switch travel iirc

[plain crest]

I asked that like 3 times lmao no one answered

[crisp granite]

um...
is this not that answer?

[plain crest]

Makes sence

[plain crest]

You gave an answer not the other people

[crisp granite]

and seriously, you'd need a massively beefy CPU to avoid dropping frames with that much info being sent

so, at least right now
massive waste

a lot of "high polling rate" devices also only do the signal polling at that speed
they're actually just repeating the same signal a few times in a row because the rest of the hardware isn't up to snuff

[plain crest]

But the pulling rate wouldn't send enough updates for the micromilimeters to be registered right? So another reason as to why they haven't done it aswell as what you said?

[crisp granite]

no, that's entirely an issue of the HE SENSORS

[plain crest]

Or am I just writing nonsence

Aha

[crisp granite]

yes, you are writing nonsense, having absorbed none of what I had previously written

[plain crest]

Oonly the sensor?

[crisp granite]

and underlying firmware as well, pretty sure it's also due to the way OSes are coded to handle controller inputs, which the wooting emulates

[plain crest]

No I understand I just don't understand how if it is micrometers if you click down it would have to send all the 4000 micrometers fast enough for it to be registered, but I was wrong

[crisp granite]

...ok
polling is entirely separate from the analog

[plain crest]

I said I understood

[crisp granite]

and as such, a higher polling rate cannot affect the "precision"

[plain crest]

Is there any software differences from 60he to 80he? 😮

[crisp granite]

no

[plain crest]

Haven't been keeping up with 80he so

[plain crest]

Ah

[cursive summit]

this is funny

From local marketplace listings

That thing is just useless

The real kicker?

[frozen ingot]

60%-ish of the screen is still readable, that's fair

[crisp granite]

that's...literal E-waste

it isn't even worth 5€

[cursive summit]

They are trying to sell it for what, 50% of the cost?

I think those G5s are like 300€ or so maybe a bit more

[steep creek]

haha

[cursive summit]

How are they thinking of selling ewaste for half original new price is just funny

[simple grove]

why is that? I swear I can tell that my mouse inputs register faster than my keyboard. I guess overtime u stop noticing it, but getting used to it initially was a bit annoying. also why does the cpu need to be way more beefy (most frames dropped is just because of poorly optimized PC where every hardware interrupt is sent to core 0 adding to system latency)? even with keyboard inputs a person might be pressing at most 10 keys at once.

if my 10th Gen Intel can handle 8khz for my mouse, I'm sure it can handle it for my keyboard as well

[ashen spindle]

for the mouse you have continuous movement so you can notice a much bigger impact there

[simple grove]

https://www.razer.com/gaming-keyboards/razer-huntsman-v2

also doesn't this keyboard have analog switches with 8khz polling rate?

[ashen spindle]

and yes older cpus can handle it fine but once you get more cpu limited in your game which is most cases where you would want faster input then you run into issues

[fickle ore]

noticing =// benefitting, stop arguing pull rate

[astral haven]

polling rate of the switches is different from the usb polling rate

[simple grove]

I'm not arguing dawg, I'm just curious why it is overlooked. just tryna understand if the feature will ever make it's way over to wooting and what the current technical limitations are that are preventing the keyboard designers from switching over rn

[reef patrol]

Hardware is preventing that.

[fickle ore]

8k > 1k, bigger number bettert

[ashen spindle]

the most important thing in keyboards is actuation, not input lag, assuming the input lag is low enough to not get in the way and since keyboards dont work like mice you gain isanely diminishing returns going to 8khz

[simple grove]

ah I see

[fickle ore]

why would you

[ashen spindle]

so while it probably will happen at some point in the future when it just works and wont add extra cost or work, it's not much of a benefit putting extra resource in for that now

[fickle ore]

the returns of 8khz from 1 khz are insanely beneficial per actuation, but cumulatively small in absolute values

No point looking from cumulative pov

[simple grove]

i do understand that analog switches kinda already eliminates most of the lag. that's why wooting feels way more responsive than other mechanical switch keyboards. so this makes sense

[simple grove]

yea I'm sure there must be SOME benefit. otherwise Razer huntsman would've flopped and/or not existed

[fickle ore]

yes yes

there is

[ashen spindle]

I mean the biggest benefit is that you can market it and say number bigger

(or lower)

[astral haven]

sugar pills are shockingly effective at doing whatever the doctor says they do

[simple grove]

yea well, understanding the placebo effect isn't the same as being able to control it to your benefit

[astral haven]

bigger number better is easy to push as a placebo benefit

[true quest]

https://youtu.be/68YMEmaF0rs?t=201

[simple grove]

it is

but are u telling me u don't want the new 540hz monitor??

[astral haven]

if it were 4k? sure

😛

different people have different higher numbers they want

[simple grove]

fax

[wheat plume]

Imagine someone who bought an RTX 4090 but the next day was stabbed by a random dude who was pissed off by humanity because his Firefox Snap didnt start on time to watch Nyanners Live
Mii Beta - 2023

[ashen spindle]

damn we get two lana posts in one day

[wheat plume]

xd

https://youtu.be/QnNH-Ja42pw

[digital cliff]

truly a day to repent

[zenith silo]

as stupid as that thing looks, the big ass sunroof is kinda cool

[reef patrol]

It's all fun and games till it hails once.

[crisp granite]

or someone keys your car in the parking lot

[reef patrol]

It's a bad term.

[vague sky]

do i even want to know what the term sludge means? I think i slightly didn't read literally anything other than the title

[wheat plume]

its refering to the videos that have subway surfers or GTA Online racing playing in the bottom half of the video

while the main video is at the top half

^

[ashen spindle]

yeah and also why its so limited stock xD

am looking forward to next gen stuff though when this is the current one

[cursive summit]

Why is that bizarre design growing on me

Like I still prefer conventional cars

But the cybertrunk doesn't look horrible

It just needs the front grills replaced cause that flat area looks off

[zenith silo]

yes it does you are schizophrenic

dont let the voices win

[cursive summit]

What

[steep creek]

I used to but these days I’ve stopped listening to anything when exercising, lets my mind really relax when idling if it makes sense

[stray nest]

my wooting60he settings are gone after I plugged it into another pc, is there a way to restore them on my keyboard again? since they suppose to be saved on the keyboard not the pc..

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[steep creek]

Same sorta, I wouldn’t flat out say no to buying one now lol

Yeah I saw, also upped the price and under delivered on range estimates, at least without the battery pack extender

Not for sale here sadly I’d love to test drive one

[astral haven]

i tried to visit the vision pro site to see if they were doing bookings for demos, and not only do you need a faceid iphone, it also cant be a company device -_-

[ashen spindle]

lmao

[steep creek]

rofl

[unkempt lake]

Cybertruck looks like its from an n64 racing game

[smoky frigate]

it's all elon's imagination could render

[cursive summit]

Oioioi https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-gre-now-available-for-e540-in-europe-new-custom-model-spotted

Considering if I could get one for that price exactly, it would be cheaper and a teeny weeny bit better than any 7800XT I could get

It's really underwhelming how much faster the GRE should be, but it's not

80CUs is a lot more than 800XT and more akin to 900XT, but the memory speed is slow

I wish there was a jailbreak to just raise that mem speed to 20gbps instead of 18, as well as increasing boost clock to 2.4Ghz

And there are comments that are saying that setting memory chips on the GRE back to 20gbps is very much possible and not even an overclock, they are downclocked way below spec and would bring massive improvements in FPS

[ashen spindle]

its also using a different package and different pcb layout for the memory so there is a good chance you can physically not make certain changes

[cursive summit]

Some peeps are saying that the OEM models are restricted

But the new AIB ones are not

[rough osprey]

https://www.twitch.tv/r0dn3y if you wanna see twitch 1440p av1

[cursive summit]

Advertising

[rough osprey]

its an obs dev

[cursive summit]

I don't see at all what's different between this and whatever other encoder is used

[ashen spindle]

the physical die package is different so thats not a matter of aib or oem

[rough osprey]

did u go to 1440p

[cursive summit]

Yis

[rough osprey]

and does your browser support av1

[cursive summit]

I have no clue

It's just basic firefox

Prolly does

[rough osprey]

go to video statistics

should tell you

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah this is pretty nice visual upgrade compared to what you expect from a warframe stream lol

[rough osprey]

ye it looks great

[cursive summit]

Ah yeah it's in AV01

[ashen spindle]

12k and 120fps very nice

[cursive summit]

I mean it looks nice but I don't see any difference from other streams?

Wait HEVC is a newer codec than H264?

What about H265?

[rough osprey]

uh weird

[ashen spindle]

hevc is h265...

[cursive summit]

Ah, cool

I thought HEVC is old cause nobody ever talks about it lel

If it's 265 then nice

[umbral heron]

H264/AVC -> H265/HEVC -> H266/VVC vs AV1

[cursive summit]

I have never heard of H266

[umbral heron]

Because AV1 is heavily winning this war

[cursive summit]

For good reasons I presume

Ah yeah aren't H encoders all licensed?

And AV1 is free?

[umbral heron]

Yup, this too

There are free implementations of x264 and x265, but all of that licensing stuff around it is murky at best...

AV1 is free, straight up

[smoky frigate]

h266 is barely out of the gestation phase

[unkempt lake]

People actually care about streaming and recording gameplay? 😛

[ashen spindle]

oh rip stream is over and vod not there

was hoping the vod would also already work

[rough osprey]

🤔

[unkempt lake]

I have no friends so I never saw a point 🙂

Who would i share it with anyways

[ashen spindle]

recording for yourself? watching streams of someone else?

[rough osprey]

im more interested in seeing better quality streams from other people

so i dont have to go to yt for 4k

i wonder how long its gonna take till all of this is also integrated in the apps on all devices

[ashen spindle]

well it should be added everywhere with the start of it

since that is the easier part when you already outsource transcoding

[neat cove]

The HE sensor is the black one here right?

Black one below the LED.

[reef patrol]

Yep

[neat cove]

This is the ATK, ????????

I don’t see an HE sensor on it.

and I don’t understand how

Is it in the PCB or something?

Those orange/yellow components are resistors I think

but HE sensor is nowhere to be found.

Or I’m blind maybe.

[jaunty cairn]

whats the difference between Switch Films and Switch Pads

[tough crypt]

Is anyone using windows 11? If so how much ram usage does it eat?

[astral haven]

2-16gb depending on the computer

[neat cove]

Switch pad is sits on the PCB, between the switch and PCB.

Switch Films sit between a switch’s bottom and top housing.

[neat cove]

I don’t get it.

[old marlin]

@neat cove they are that orange-ish dot on the top

With something akin to scotch tape over them

[neat cove]

I don’t think so as the 60HE has those as well and the HE sensor.

They’re also offset and the one at Esc is rotated.

[neat cove]

Here’s 60HE PCBA

[stuck surge]

Depends on settings

[pallid elk]

not sure if this is the right place to ask but does anyone know the best way to sell used pc parts? do people even buy used parts? appreciate any help

[old marlin]

these

wait does that board have rgb

(let's hope I don't get another standby call again)

[shadow minnow]

So far it seems great, better in all aspects but I am not sure if sweaty hands won’t cause an issue as it’s not rubberized - however rubber grips come in the box

It seems much more well rounded - the side buttons and wheel click acc feel nice unlike g703 where aside from main buttons rest felt bad

But I did have some bad experience with software already, not like logitechs is much better

But it was surprisingly easy to adapt to and my clicks per second - while really low, are the same even though I aam not used to

[digital cliff]

i built my entire computer from parts I bought online used

look up tech forums in your country, they might have a classifieds page where you can sell

that and/or local craigslist ones

[pallid elk]

okok thank u

[old marlin]

💀 had another one

[fickle ore]

I wish I had motivation to sell old parts

[unreal fjord]

does a boot rgb exist? (e.g. when the PC starts, the keyboard also has a special startup RGB that only comes at the beginning)

[reef patrol]

A what now

[neat cove]

RGB… That’s why I don’t get it. I don’t see anything on the top or on the bottom.

[reef patrol]

No, no such thing.

[neat cove]

I am. But I am unsuccessful.

They’re not, unless the HE sensors sit within the RGB node 🤷‍♂️

[unreal fjord]

A friend of mine's €30 keyboard could do that. I was jealous that my 60HE couldn't do that.

[neat cove]

It’s very clear on the pictures if you don’t look at the flash shine 🤣🤣

I mean, monitors? 🥴

It’s a tiny bit dimmer than Wooting but still shockingly bright. I’d presume these don’t last nearly as long though.

“I don't even see how you could get red green and blue from something that small”

Thing is, you get red green and blue from something that small.

No, what’s that?

The one on the ATK has a black square inside it, not white like the one you showed.

It looks different.

[halcyon moss]

who does these days

[smoky frigate]

35mm film or GO HOME ZOOMERS

[halcyon moss]

i have a point and shoot cam, a decent one, but i hardly ever use it

[neat cove]

My brother has one, I don’t. But my light is shit here anyway.

[halcyon moss]

better light and 3x zoom cam?

[neat cove]

I don’t remember. 😬

The orange/yellow things are resistors for the RGB right?

I also couldn’t find HE sensors much smaller than on the 60HE.

[reef patrol]

Someone grab a rifle and shoot me. I was considering trying Linux for a second there for some reason.

Windows fucks something simple up again

[umbral heron]

[smoky frigate]

I shitcanned windows forever when it randomly fucked my sound up, and switching the driver would not fix it. I'm sure you'll like it!!

[reef patrol]

Thankfully with the SSD price increase, I won't be able to try it out. Crisis averted...for now

[smoky frigate]

we'll get you sooner or later

[reef patrol]

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-mischief-gif-19002524

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-angus-roy-shackelton-middlemost-post-scared-awake-nightmare-gif-22559659

[ashen spindle]

you still have some years so be safe for now

[spare marsh]

can I use wootility in ipad?

ty

[cursive summit]

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/new-report-claims-windows-11-ai-pcs-will-require-16gb-ram-but-will-they

What the fuck is a Win11 AI PC

This is literally why I am not installing Win11, the sheer amount of bloat

If I need ChatGPT, I will just open the webpage, I don't want that built-in into the OS

[ashen spindle]

its literally just marketing so oems put 16gb in things

put your tinfoil away

[umbral heron]

Dedicated Copilot key?

[halcyon moss]

8gb in laptops is criminal

[ashen spindle]

yes

[steep creek]

hahah that sounds great, as long as they don’t up the price too much

[ashen spindle]

It’s not apple so probably not

[thick elk]

I would say finally something good to come from the AI investor hype.
If this means 16GB will become the baseline with naturally 32gb becoming more common higher up the stack, I am all for it.

[ashen spindle]

As many laptops already start with 16 nowadays

[steep creek]

fair

[ashen spindle]

It’s even less of a thing than the original 11 min specs like tpm2.0

[thick elk]

That moment you are looking at the most popular laptop at the moment and a top 10 on the list only includes 4 8GB devices, 3 of which are macbooks and the 4th is € 400

[reef patrol]

Microsoft seems to have pretty decent requirements for including the OS, no?
A webcam with a certain set of specs, 16GB of RAM.

Of course telemetry and all that is garbage, but they do force hardware manufacturers to go somewhere.

[ashen spindle]

Yeah it’s just vex rambling again

[cursive summit]

I love you too quin

https://www.servethehome.com/stmicroelectronics-makes-a-18k-big-sky-sensor-so-large-only-four-on-a-300mm-wafter/

[marsh glade]

Might as well jump straight into the crocodile pen

Incredibly graphic mother nature: viewer discretion strongly advised
||https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/19b9chk/crocodiles_tearing_apart_a_duck/||

[thick elk]

Still if the € 400-600 laptop will include 16GB ram because of this, you will probably also see more 32GB ones in the 800-1200 reange.

[steep creek]

I like these new requirements

[cursive summit]

300mm is a pretty big waffle

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-fuck-dude-eric-cartman-south-park-s14e3-medicinal-fried-chicken-gif-22899960

[cursive summit]

I guess it's canon, crocs > ducks

[umbral heron]

We are here to appreciate the awesome majesty and incredibly cool aspects of nature.

[ashen spindle]

BTW mark did you see the tsmc Arizona fab delay I pinged you with?

[marsh glade]

Sure did

Good news for the world I suppose

[ashen spindle]

Intel meanwhile said the Germany fab will be the most advanced when it’s finished in 2027

So I think we are safe for a while longer when they think that is actually going to work out well

[cursive summit]

Question: why is Intel building a fab in Germany?

Last I heard you actually need people with degrees and knowledge in semiconductors to you know, hire employees

Not too sure Europe has many people of such caliber

[ashen spindle]

you do know we have GF fabs here?

[umbral heron]

One of their flagship programs or something https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/corporate-responsibility/intel-in-germany.html

[cursive summit]

Isn't GF in Taiwan?

[ashen spindle]

if it would be I wouldnt say we have a fab here

[halcyon moss]

I don't know if your gf is in Germany

[umbral heron]

Huh... I just found out they want to open one of the facilities in Poland

[ashen spindle]

you wouldnt know her she uses a different wafer

[cursive summit]

I still have a hard time believing they are actually expecting to do a hiring drive in Europe and muster enough qualified employees to run a bleeding edge fab

They will 100% be hiring internationally for most of the positions

[ashen spindle]

we have zeiss and ASML here as well

well yeah they also hire internationally for US fabs..

they have fabs running ireland already too

[cursive summit]

Hm, when my country tried to butter up TSMC, they told us we are shit and they won't build fabs

[ashen spindle]

and that makes intel 4/3 which is the most current one that is in production

[cursive summit]

I guess TSMC wasn't very friendly

[marsh glade]

Which country did they say that to?

[cursive summit]

Litauen

Told us we have no educational frameworks in place for even beginning to educate peeps in semiconductors so they won't build fabs here lel

This was after my country decided to middle finger mainland and then we tried to butter up Taiwan

[marsh glade]

Ouch

[cursive summit]

That whole political thing resulted in a grand total of nothing of value for us, as far as I know

Lots of promises and nothing done

TSMC building fabs here as a "backup" would have been massive

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Go-gaming-handheld-review-Good-idea-not-quite-perfectly-executed.794034.0.html

[ashen spindle]

yeah also 0% chance of that ever happening

[cursive summit]

Not too sure if this is tech or game talk

[ashen spindle]

some smaller things sure but not an entire fab and sure as hell nothing leading edge

[ashen spindle]

and yeah it's like that the magdeburg fab is going to be for intels 14A, the first high-NA EUV node with gaafet

while poland might get a assembly/test facility

[umbral heron]

Already got, there's already prepared build site in Wrocław

[ashen spindle]

look at the tsmc arizona fab and you see why I dont trust these deals until it's mostly done being build at least

[umbral heron]

Fair

[ashen spindle]

hows the state with polish politics I didnt keep up, are they still going very right?

if so wonder how they react to needing eu/usa people to get that rolling and working there lol

[umbral heron]

After yesteryear's election right-winged PiS government lost, and now we have pretty central-ish coalition, which heavily favours EU though

[ashen spindle]

that is a good progress then

[umbral heron]

Nowadays it's more or less cleaning after all that mess they did in previous 8 years

[stuck surge]

im polish and i dont even follow my country politics much

but pis lost so its better

cant be worse

[umbral heron]

Exactly

[fickle ore]

The road to boomerdom is paved with innocent intentions

[cursive summit]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/18966/tsmc-delays-arizona-fab-deployment-to-2025 hmm

"Shortage of Skilled Workers".. in U.S

My tiny European countryside never stood a chance

TSMC has some massive standards

[fickle ore]

It just means they want too much $$ or dont wanna work 24/7 like taiwanese

not actually sub par workers

[ashen spindle]

or are already taken by the other fabs and dont want to switch

or the headline isnt the entire truth since it's just what they want to say to look not at fault

[fickle ore]

TSMC has been whinging in the news about US people asking too much $$ compared to taiwanese parts and they tried to import taiwan workers to US

[mild dome]

Even if other fabs were eating up the workforce TSMC has the money to attract them. TSMC however chooses not to, thinking Americans should work for Taiwanese wages and crying when they don't

[ashen spindle]

Not really the case

Even if they offer 20% more on every listing not everyone is going to suddenly jump in that

[fickle ore]

Cultures too wide apart. Cant really import culture of nationality to a different folk that do not share the ideals of said nationality.

[halcyon moss]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/alexa-is-in-trouble-paid-for-alexa-gives-inaccurate-answers-in-early-demos/

@pale sigil ^^^^^^

[wheat plume]

🤔

they are charging for an Assistant that is not as good as the competition but the only one you can use on their stuff?

[pale sigil]

I saw

[pale sigil]

Alexa+

Ai basically

[halcyon moss]

geez this mac charger is only 35 watts 😮

[snow lark]

need help

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[steady tartan]

I have a question to someone in here who owns iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max

[marsh glade]

https://dontasktoask.com/

Or maybe I was just too quick with that, saw you were still typing 😅

[steady tartan]

Did your phone start working slower and being less responsive after some time of using it?

Like screen not feeling as 120 Hz but more like 80

When typing its feels lagging behind

And stuff?

Im reading on the net that people have this same problem

Even tho their phones have 90-95% free disk space

And refreshing in the background turned off

[marsh glade]

Isn't that something Apple is known for? Artificially limiting older generations of phones to encourage their users to buy new models

[steady tartan]

I mean

Im talking about 15 Pro Max

[marsh glade]

Or did they settle without admitting guilt lol

[steady tartan]

In my case

[marsh glade]

(I don't, nor have ever, owned an iPhone)

[steady tartan]

The newest iPhones on the market

I received iPhone 15 Pro Max as preset, it worked perfectly in the first 3 weeks

But now its lag fiesta

Noone of my Android phones behaved like that

What a joke

[marsh glade]

Return it and get a real phone 😛

[steady tartan]

I mean I got it as present for Christmas from my brother

I dont have a receipt or invoice

[marsh glade]

e.g., this bad boy

[steady tartan]

This was the shit

Back in the day

[marsh glade]

This phone was how you bought "cool" status in school

[steady tartan]

I might sell my iphone and buy newest OnePlus at this point

Android is better system than iOS in my opinion

[marsh glade]

Jesus what is this monstrosity

[steady tartan]

Oh Hell naw

Bullying magnet

[fair gull]

razer v3i?

[versed hinge]

Weird none of my iPhones behaved like that

[steady tartan]

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255185384?sortBy=best

Iphone 15 problem

Might be hardware or iOS problem

But my 15 pro max worked flawlessly first 3 weeks

Then i updated some of my apps

And boom, it all became less responsive

From my experience it feels like refreshing rate of the screen dropped from 120hz to 60-70Hz

[versed hinge]

That’s terrible. They’ll probably fix it in the next update

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuXNiEwXuW0

ohno

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/handheld-gaming/gpd-shoves-ryzen-7-8840u-into-win-max-2-handheld-npu-upgrade-will-improve-ai-workloads-but-not-gaming-performance

[scenic fossil]

guys im on the glorious website and want the gmmk 2 keyboard and want it to sound thocky. Which switch should I use?

Am I in the right channel O_o

[ashen spindle]

are you on the right discord

[scenic fossil]

idk bruh

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

usually you'd want to ask that on the companies discord or something neutral, not on the one from a competitor xD

[steep creek]

lol

[scenic fossil]

oh shoot

mb

lol

[ashen spindle]

I mean no problem just seems curious xD

[scenic fossil]

idk this was a company lol

[ashen spindle]

https://wooting.io/ buy a wooting keyboard instead

[scenic fossil]

the marketing tho

ok lemme see

[steep creek]

Pretty great keyboards, and software

[scenic fossil]

cool

[terse garnet]

Gmmk sucks, get a diff custom or a Wooting 👍

[kind jasper]

Im having trouble with my profiles in the wooting software. any time i try and switch the profile im using, im unable to type, and eventually it reverts back to my digital profile (the top profile). anyone know how i can fix this?

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[cinder tinsel]

who can find a good and cheap wrist rest from amazon?

[crisp granite]

Not from Amazon, but a small company you’ve probably never heard of called “wooting” makes a rather solid and inexpensive wrist rest
I’d check it out

[fair gull]

@astral haven so i tried my best researching this whole IEC 60027-2 thing... but without paying a cool few hundred eur i cant even read the 1mb PDF files

i dont even understand why a supposed standard is paywalled

also hilarious that gzip rivals AI for text classification https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n39SbRPXKQ

[tawny hemlock]

2hours

😰

[fair gull]

the section labelled paper explains it

the rest is coding it up

[tawny hemlock]

i dont have enough braincells i think

but looks interesting

[astral haven]

fyi you are still missing the point, but yea standards orgs are rather rude to end users

[ashen spindle]

ya good luck getting something like jedec papers when that really doesnt make sense to be paywalled lmao

[fair gull]

from what i recall the point was i said it should be the standard, wikipedia says it is, you guys said its not

[astral haven]

thats what you were saying, but you were still misinterpreting what we were saying

i dont know what the actual standards say

but i do know what needs to be done coloquially

[fair gull]

id rather explain terms in a convo than misuse terms

[astral haven]

you may think that, but you didnt

[fair gull]

but i did explain Mbps vs MBps

[astral haven]

after pressed, and it wasnt you who used the terms

[fresh raft]

Whats the difference between 60he and +? For a normal user

Because i bought rh he + since normal he isnt in stock

Thanks

[fair gull]

personally wouldnt call it pressed but more like stating a correction to something you claimed. all I can do until I somehow read the IEC standard or someone who has read it can weigh in is trusting wikipedia and my past experience in communicating with ISP and network equipment manufacturers.

Either way we seem to agree to disagree

[astral haven]

like yea i understand we are talking about different things

but if you ask for 100MBPS service or 100MBps service you will get 100mbps service

[fair gull]

the 60he+ is currently only sold as a module aka it comes without a case if you dont order one

[ashen spindle]

and without switches if you didnt add them

[fair gull]

ye

no keycaps, switches or case if you didnt add it to your order

[wheat plume]

Fuck Apple for removing the headphone jack
Fuck every other brand that decided to follow along

Got to spend at least 200 dollar for wireless buds that support lossless codecs
And then have a phone that can send lossless codecs over BT

Just to have wireless earbuds sound almost as good as 23 dollar wired earphones

[final flame]

now that's just plain not true, dongles work
and chances are you're not going to be concentrating hard enough to notice the difference between aptx and ldac

or notice the difference at all

[wheat plume]

Dongles affect the sound quality :/

[final flame]

they don't

[wheat plume]

My own does...

[ashen spindle]

people literally use the apple dongle on pcs as a good dac to make it sound better...

[final flame]

then get something else, there's plenty of dongles that are "good"

if you want dongle reccomendations I can give them if you want

[wheat plume]

Isn't only the US version of the apple dongle good?

Not the one we can get in EU

[ashen spindle]

its better but the eu version isnt making it worse

[final flame]

it's not that it's "good"
it's that it has more power than the eu version

[astral haven]

the apple dongle is shit

but thats not the dongles fault

apple just made it bad on purpose

[final flame]

are you done with your misinf

[ashen spindle]

define shit

[astral haven]

way too low voltage

[wheat plume]

Apple would have reason to make their dongle bad

To make wired earphones sound worse so people buy air pods

[astral haven]

it cant be used to plug into a stereo

[final flame]

I think that's the issue with all dongles, not just apples
you can only pull so much from a phone before you start having issues

[astral haven]

nah

its got plenty of power

they just put a voltage limit

so really low impedance stuff can get driven quite well

[ashen spindle]

regardless how much its lacking its not bad in terms of making it worse than using a 3.5 jack on iphones so its not an issue there

[astral haven]

no quin it is

[final flame]

I've driven 6xx out of the apple dongle before and it sounds fine

[woven laurel]

@fair gull are you sleeping ?

[astral haven]

thats the problem

[ashen spindle]

you dont need to spend 200$ because of it

[astral haven]

it sounds fine, but 6xx are relatively sensitive

103db/mw

[final flame]

they're sensitive, high impeadance
sensitive only means you're able to get the proper volume out of it

[astral haven]

yes

so if your headphones are 150 ohm and 90db/mw, it just wont work well

but heres the worse problem

name a car that has a high quality amplifier on the 3.5 input

if you quarter the voltage, you are taking a significant amount off the dynamic range of the jack

i was test driving cars without bluetooth and it was pain

after that experience i went and got a generic chinese dongle for the same price as the apple and it was never a problem again

[final flame]

cx31993 shill

[ashen spindle]

ok so for the main point, assume apple is shit, get a different dongle for 5$ or there around and its fine again

[astral haven]

yep

but the one every department store stocks is the apple

and the one every hifi reviewer has been recommending forever is the apple

[ashen spindle]

so point is the removal of headphone jack isnt the massive issue lana wants it to be

[astral haven]

oh sure

but calling the apple dongle fine is what caused this to be a problem to begin with

a dual use dongle that has a usb c port for power input and a reference usb audio implementation is like $12 and solves most problems

[final flame]

calling a statistically well performing dongle that is commonly used in the audio space to drive iems and easy to drive headphones
"fine" is the issue

[astral haven]

yep

because what is good for iems and easy to drive headphones just doesnt work for one of the most important things at least in the us, that being a car

[final flame]

well they did say they're in the eu