🔌│tech

[vagrant pagoda]

You don't think mediatek over Qualcomm?

[gusty kiln]

is samsung tizen?

[vagrant pagoda]

For shear numbers

[astral haven]

probably

[ashen spindle]

q4 earnings for amd are in january right?

[gusty kiln]

ok then yeah, apple silicone isn't anywhere as much

[astral haven]

actually you right

[vagrant pagoda]

I doubt M1/2/3 has even eclipsed Intel Mac counts

[vagrant pagoda]

Cost per unit

[astral haven]

probably if you include the ipad

[umbral heron]

24Q4 closes in April I think

[ashen spindle]

didnt we get Q3 in september?

[vagrant pagoda]

You can sell a 1000s of $5 mediatek socs in India for every Qualcomm flagship

[gusty kiln]

Jan 30, 2024

[astral haven]

and thats not what we asked

[umbral heron]

Oh yeah, Q3 closes end of october

[vagrant pagoda]

That's how market share works

[astral haven]

this is by shipments, not dollars

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes

And 1000 is bigger than 1.

[ashen spindle]

trying to find if they said el capitan installation gets put on the Q4 earnings or elsewhere for mad

[astral haven]

oh i see what you are saying
but no qualcomm also makes cheap chips

[vagrant pagoda]

Mediatek has the low end market on lock though

What is the cheapest Qualcomm phone you can buy nee

[astral haven]

not really
cheapest devices often use SS or unisoc
but the cheap stuff that looks good are all mediatek yea

[gusty kiln]

snapdragon 4 is the lowest?

[astral haven]

nah below that they have the old numbering scheme

[vagrant pagoda]

You can get sub $50 shipped new mediatek phones off Amazon

[gusty kiln]

is mediatek high end better than exynos high end?

[vagrant pagoda]

Trade blows

[gusty kiln]

oooofff on samsung

[astral haven]

not any more

9300 wrecks shop

debateably faster than the 8g3

[gusty kiln]

yeah some synthetics have it faster

by a few percent

how per efficient is it?

[astral haven]

basically the same

[gusty kiln]

oh damn

[astral haven]

slightly better but not by much

[vagrant pagoda]

Are there any 9300 on the market yet though?

[gusty kiln]

only seen vivo phones

[astral haven]

chinese reviewers

the x100 pro is a pretty incredible phone

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah that's what I thought

I know the oppo fold just came out with the 9200

[astral haven]

🤨 "Qualcomm SM8550-AB"

https://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_n3-12205.php

oh the flip

https://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_n3_flip-12531.php

[vagrant pagoda]

By bad folding phones got me mixed up lol

[gusty kiln]

S24 in january right?

[astral haven]

s24 rumored exynos

ultra only snapdragon

[gusty kiln]

good thing I am Ultra or bust

[languid fossil]

every time you say ultra, it pings me

[astral haven]

no it doesnt

[languid fossil]

it does

[umbral heron]

@languid fossil does

Ultra doesn't

[languid fossil]

I'm using a matrix bridge

[gusty kiln]

sounds like a personal problem

[languid fossil]

saying ultra does, in fact, ping me

[astral haven]

^

discord aint pinging you, you just get a notification

[languid fossil]

I'll use this pretext to join the convo: exynos chips suck.

They're slower, less efficient and hotter than snapdragon

[astral haven]

yes, no and no

[gusty kiln]

excited for flat screen on the ultra this time

[languid fossil]

I get less battery on my S22U than others with snapdragon tho

[astral haven]

samsung yeeted all the fast chips, and now they are all slow yes but also efficient and cool

[languid fossil]

and it heats up like pizza in the microwave while not doing anything

[astral haven]

yep that was an issue for a few gens

[languid fossil]

I heard they might rebrand to Dream Chip, is that true?

[astral haven]

prior to the s9 however, the exynos was substantially faster for the same battery life

the recent issues have been due to trying to transition but just not doing it, while qualcomm has been languishing

the 888 was utter trash

id have much preferred an exynos 2100 over that

as for now, who knows what exynos will bring, they dropped a gen and we shall see how they bring it back

tensors arent fast but they are exynos designs and arent that awfully inefficient
they arent great sure but they also are running on a cheap node

and qualcomm is an awful company, so any competition is good

[languid fossil]

tensors use exynos designs?

TIL

[astral haven]

yep
planned to switch to full custom in 2026 rumored

[astral haven]

im probably going to end up with an xperia, but the pixel 8 pro is nice, and the xiaomi 14u is also rumored to be very sweet
on the other hand i could get an actual point and shoot to get better quality so idk

rx100 m7 is on my radar

and if the s24u has the new rumored specs of a 5x and a 10x, i might end up getting that!

if its just a 5x tho idk the 6x (rumored) from the xperia could be better for me

[wheat plume]

MTF
HAH

WE ARE TRANS-ING YOUR DATABASES
mhahaha xd

[fair gull]

ill just have you know that MTF isnt some exclusively trans invented acronym

all i think of with MTF is ntbackup and mssql backup tooling

[astral haven]

MTF charts also can define how good lenses are

[umbral heron]

Wel...

[wheat plume]

I know :P

[wheat plume]

Ministerial Taskforce
that sounds hostile.... wtf

[gusty kiln]

I always think of Mean Time to Failure, but that is MTTF

[astral haven]

mtbf is the more often used term

[fair gull]

ye mean time between failures

[woven laurel]

monitoring the future isnt far off tbh

[wheat plume]

??????

what happens to the last letter of each name?! its just gone

guess thats why its lossy compression... why tf would you want that?

[analog sinew]

it can be done if the value exists somewhere else

e.g. the data file

[wheat plume]

yeh but why use 3 files if you could just use the original data file?

[analog sinew]

i am just messing with you

[wheat plume]

I hate this crap ;-;

just take me back to basic SQL and Data types

[woven laurel]

you dont need to learn. had it in school

[umbral heron]

Roberto - 0, insert whole string at position 0
so - 6, copy previous string, replace anything on position 6 and further with so
t - 7, copy previous string, replace anything on position 7 and further with t
And so on

[woven laurel]

but never been relevant unless you work with very big data

[astral haven]

@prisma crag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96tM-_LF0mM

bit spensive for me, but 👀

basically a not ugly canoo lel

and more efficient

[plush lotus]

So I got a link from ups claiming there was a error and they need me to confirm my location and when I open the link it gets flagged as Phishing

[umbral heron]

How does it look like, does it start from ups.com, or looks similar to this one?

[plush lotus]

No my link says

[umbral heron]

Yeah, it's a scam

[plush lotus]

Ok tyms

[fair gull]

if it gets flagged as phishing its phishing

[strong sundial]

mobile task force

[rich sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3U2tTi_atk&ab_channel=ZOWIEe-Sports did u see this?

[fair gull]

i really dont care about gaming monitors so no

[rich sand]

my guess is you dont play siege, CS or any of that sort

[fair gull]

because competitive games are lame as a working person

[rich sand]

theyre really not

[final flame]

Nah they are

[rich sand]

[fair gull]

i dont have 40hours a day to invest into grinding my skills and practice

i wanna boot a game and just relax

[final flame]

Playing competitive shooter by yourself without friends is probably the saddest ways to spend life imo

[umbral heron]

Yeah, you don't really go into competitive games after day of hard work

[rich sand]

and thats fine, those games aint for you.

[fair gull]

ive got better stuff to do than grind for some e penis that has 0 reallife value

[rich sand]

why are u speaking like ur on a higher pedestal

[north drum]

hey guys, is some out there any clone of wooting but in TLK version ???

[fickle ore]

like all games?

lol

[final flame]

All games you play

[fair gull]

idk people that play competitive games are the ones posting their online rank as if it means anything

i dont come here and post "ive beaten yet another minesweeper field"

[fickle ore]

Nah, it's a terrible take. Anything that's fun to a person is worth it for living. But none of them have real life value.

[fair gull]

i dont grind games?

[umbral heron]

Depends what kind of value

[fair gull]

im really unsure how grinding e penis in the form of a competitive rank (which the convo was about) expands to all games

[fickle ore]

That's too deep. I'm sure gaming is very good for development actually and you can get monetary value by selling items and accounts, but let's not go there

[fickle ore]

yeah nvm I read wrong lol. I thought you meant competitive gaming in general has 0 real life value, or that somehow non-competitive games do

[gusty kiln]

idk, opinion are opinion, the real issue is why omg hai thought Tony actually cared in the first place

[fair gull]

if you play competitive games purely for fun go ahead

nothing against that

purely dislike the whole 1v1 me in [GAME] or i am [RANK NAME] in [GAME] so stfu or stuff along those lines

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYort4XIfI

[gusty kiln]

tl;dw is it good?

[ashen spindle]

it has good applications

[fair gull]

so in 15years i can get a used server with one in it

lol

[ashen spindle]

in a vaccum very good, in server space tough, because it's a refresh of sapphire which fixes many bugs, issue is SPR was so delayed customers were mostly stuck waiting on that so not many are going to ugprade again already, and amd has zen5 next quarter

this is essentially what should have come to compete with genoa

you still have platform specific things that might make it a no brainer for your usecase

[astral haven]

yea ER is for folks like us who buy cpus at the end of generation at maximum discount after the manufacturer overproduces it 🤣

[ashen spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184777469174239242/1184883716259074129/dWEbympbazpgoGXJdVftZk-1200-80.jpg.webp?ex=658d97f4&is=657b22f4&hm=faf366330379eaad9919674f530b70b59810641d637625789a5c9878ac855d42&

it has some things that are kinda cursed like combining ddr and cxl memory into one pool

[fair gull]

i mean im more seriously gunning for a used epyc cpu in year and years into the future

or well a server with one in it

[ashen spindle]

used market it probably makes more sense finding what the cheaper board is than the cpu lel

rather than deciding xeon or epyc

[astral haven]

yea def not for me personally
but at work for example we have a few vms on a 3106 bronze box that ive been doing updates on over the past week

[ashen spindle]

EMR seems like a "hey guys we sorta fixed sapphire rapids now and have some previews coming for what we want in granite, please clap"

[astral haven]

more accurately, please stop booing

[ashen spindle]

haha fair

[gusty kiln]

you decided your upgrade yet carm?

[ashen spindle]

hey, people stopped booing and started laughing when they showed 144 e cores as a real product

[astral haven]

upgrade for what?
cpu?
i aint getting a new cpu until either zen 5 or deckard

[gusty kiln]

oh rip

cuz you were looking at that intel platform for a while

[astral haven]

i mean it was pretty obvious that it was gonna be bad but copium

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

but id still like to see benchmarks of it for games

and i mean with an overclock because otherwise whats the point

[ashen spindle]

welcome back mr backroom chiller

[astral haven]

hey idgaf about cinebench scores

id happily run a 3175x if someone would make a board for it that you could run without having to blowtorch it

5ghz boost, 300w power limit? no problem

[ashen spindle]

4 weeks till CES I cant wait

there is still some chance they wouldn't show anything there but I doubt that

[astral haven]

i have zero hope for anyone to make a am5 board that meets my specs 😦

[ashen spindle]

what about something cursed like using the first slot not for the gpu and find some pcie splitter to get what you need?

[astral haven]

xeon is cheaper than that

like the problem is what pcie splitter could i get?

[ashen spindle]

idk what you exactly need and what you can actually get in the pcie splitter market, never looked what they offer there

[astral haven]

i have a gen 3 switch AIC

[ashen spindle]

ok yeah I checked, ces 2022 they showed zen4 when that was launching H2 that year, we will see zen5 at ces

[astral haven]

can make any combination i want of 8 ports of x4
2x16 ✅ 4x8 ✅

id take the same exact thing but 4.0 rather than 3.0 however the cheapest one im aware of is a $4k system

[ashen spindle]

oh lol

[astral haven]

i might be able to jank together a system out of the apex storage x16 and some adapters, but thats still $1700 without adapters

[ashen spindle]

I mean maybe you are lucky and someone at asrock or gigabyte got bored and just slapped ungodly connectors onto a new board revision

[astral haven]

which is why i have no hope

[ashen spindle]

[astral haven]

and the worst part is if it happens, i might not even buy it

again i dont use my computer much, and im saving to buy a car

[ashen spindle]

well the good part is if it's some board with a lot of connectors it might still be cheap enough if they dont focus it as a OC board

but that's all just complete speculation

we'll just have to see

[astral haven]

yep

cheap wont happen since they will price it like a pro board

asus is fkn taunting me

[ashen spindle]

ohh which board is that

[astral haven]

w680-ace

and yes w680 is overclockable

[ashen spindle]

it's really funny though

yes it can make sense but high end motherboards and celeron will never not make me chuckle

[astral haven]

it made a bit of sense in the past when they had ecc

want a storage server with a BMC? here ya go

[ashen spindle]

biggest surprise this week is still nvidia talking about the mi300 though

I did not see that coming lol

[astral haven]

yea, im alot more hype now than i was lol

and maybe thatll make amd come up with an answer for nvlink?

i mean nvswitch

[ashen spindle]

i think IF is going to be used for that, didn't pay much attention to when broadcom was onstage but I think the plan is to use ultra ethernet for the other large scale out parts and IF before that

[astral haven]

yea which isnt an answer

[ashen spindle]

I think in the cnc discord someone mentioned more about that give me a sec to find that

combo of pensando dpu and ifis for mi400 it seems, networking massive focus for that from what I could skim through

[astral haven]

ifis is like nvlink except you get a max of 8 gpus still
add nvswitch to nvlink and you get 256 gpus unified

only after the nvswitches are done does nvidia have to fall back to ethernet/infinity fabric

[ashen spindle]

idk for one way about my level of understand and its a 25 product so not like you get people to spill what exactly it will have

[astral haven]

whats a 25 product?

[ashen spindle]

mi400

[astral haven]

ah

see the problem tho is that nvswitch is from 2018

[gusty nexus]

I have never seen one until now :
https://youtu.be/5gyrDHBVQII

[ashen spindle]

well idk anything about whats on the pensando roadmap so what they add from what could be anything from just 800gb to some IFIS on meth

[astral haven]

and amd isnt even proposing on having a solution to it at all even being in the middle of the LLM boom

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah they are definitely missing out on chunks of the big bubble VC funds

[astral haven]

there have been some announced LLMs that dont even fit on a single fully kitted out nvswitch setup (need 2)

[ashen spindle]

nvidia is not in a position where amd can suddenly put them on the rearview mirror like intel xD for sure

but they can appear with a racing car in nvidias rearview for the first time

[astral haven]

yea

wish that success would translate into a big consumer chip :/

come on lets get a chip whose total die area is over the reticle limit at least thanks to the new chiplet tech

[ashen spindle]

hmm what are the actual sizes of the mi300 dies

https://vxtwitter.com/Locuza_/status/1611048510949888007 ah

[astral haven]

TPU says a total of 1017

[astral haven]

that seems a little steep but its nothing extraordinary

per chip

even just 2 of those size ccds + 8 IOD would be larger than reticle limit

and that would make such an incredibly huge gpu for consumer

[ashen spindle]

those are accurate its the width and length amd showed in the slides

[astral haven]

of the interposer right?

[ashen spindle]

of the cdna die

[astral haven]

oh i didnt know amd said that?

[astral haven]

hunh ok then

sweet

bigg chippo

either way i only ask for half of that total area amd i beg

[ashen spindle]

and yeah I would love to buy N4C but after seeing intel falter from doing to much at once, take it slow and get there over not making it haha

[astral haven]

still think they need a halo consumer chip

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah for sure

but having halo ready at the cost of delaying next gen is worse

[astral haven]

🤷 yea but dont cancel it entirely, just keep working on it?

launch the rest of the gen, halo can come as a kick in the teeth to nv when they release their next gen

[ashen spindle]

well the plan is that they have the next gen halo in the same year as blackwell

+rdna5 is console IP delaying that can not happen

[astral haven]

🤨 will it really be a halo tho?

[ashen spindle]

I mean the graphics work they do anyway, the packaging part that didnt work for N4C they work on for MI300//400 anyway so if that works should be doable to put it onto consumer then

[astral haven]

yea but they dont have to deal with gddr

[ashen spindle]

that doesnt matter

[astral haven]

gddr is super high frequency signalling and it has to exit the SI, go into the organic, and then get out to the actual dram chips

HBM stays within the SI

and mi300 is technically back to glue

right?

no separate iodies to deal with

[ashen spindle]

they have gddr working with the MCDs, the issue with N4C is the stacking of the split geometry by putting the shaders onto the interposer dies

the mcds would likely stay the same

hell they had the option to stack them on rdna3 already

[astral haven]

a halo would need more mcds

and would stacking the mcds allow for more channels or just more l3

[ashen spindle]

that I dont know

i just know they had plans for up to 288mb instead of 96mb mcds

[astral haven]

👀 that would be interesting

a halo with 3x l3 for same bus width might make up for it?

[ashen spindle]

basically 2 hi was in early plans but scrapped and until rdna3 exploded the plan was to have 96 and 192mb version with 0 or 1 hi

so if you have working 192mb options I can see that working well enough, or not causing to many issues to get that to 2 hi if needed if that would be a limitation otherwise

that's why I'm not worried about the memory part

[astral haven]

and you could make the regular version with 0hi for alot cheaper

yea thats pretty sweet

[ashen spindle]

also stays on N6 so cost doesnt increase but slightly goes down for that part

[astral haven]

even if it was just a single 192MB layer on top, that should be able to feed a ton of extra cores

[ashen spindle]

yeah

[astral haven]

still more hype about deckard tho

[ashen spindle]

idk man N4C might appear before that at some point lol

[astral haven]

and even n5x too

-_-

valve i beg

[ashen spindle]

maybe we need n5x to run it

[astral haven]

navi 5 APU half the size of a mi300 in a vr headset?
id be down

front unit has a pair of xr4 chips to drive the super high res displays, and the back has that big chip and a cooling brick

then cables come down to a pair of belt packs that it draws from both at the same time

each one capable of outputting 50 watts

2560x2560 half inch microoleds means that someone could make a 5120x5120 1 inch Uoled copium

[ashen spindle]

hm we actaully dont really have clear info on N44/48 I just realized

we have LLVM patches but nothing but random guesses from the usual 0 sources leakers

[astral haven]

😦

amd folks i talk to are all 😉 like usual, but they were also doing that before navi :/

and i mean navi1

[ashen spindle]

I mean that's not a bad sign really, we also didnt get much on zen5 till server people got their hands on turin

[astral haven]

yea its not a bad sign, but if nvidia or intel was doing that, it would be earthshattering

[ashen spindle]

think it's probably just that they clamped down on specific leaks and also even if its great, no halo means it's less exciting to leak

zen3/4 were also quite a tight ship

[astral haven]

i mean actual employees

[ashen spindle]

gpu people or other divisions

[astral haven]

gpu

afaik theyve never leaked anything besides winks

[latent mural]

hi please can i have help

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[astral haven]

#1019755933959733258

afaik the leaks come from outside of amd, partners or stuff

[ashen spindle]

yeah we are all witing for lenovo to leak zen5 xD

but N4C isn't really outside leak

[astral haven]

yea

[astral haven]

its a good sign tho is what im saying
not thaaaaaaat good but its still good

it aint gonna be slower than last gen

[ashen spindle]

oh, this made me think you meant it's not a great look

[astral haven]

that was a reaction to you, two separate things

[ashen spindle]

ah

yeah n4c issues were packaging not IP so unlike a rdna3 happens that should be fine

which I think we would know by now

if H1 release is accurate

[astral haven]

yea but nothing is suggesting big boi titan killer

[ashen spindle]

yee that aint happening

[astral haven]

heck id like to see nvidia forced to release a titan to keep the top spot

its been a while lel

295x2 🤤

[astral haven]

https://spectrum.ieee.org/openai-alignment
Openai being comedians again

[iron wave]

Does anyone know of a decent RISC-V core I could use for emulation?

Unicorn is cool and all, but it is unsuitable for memory mapped IO.

[placid wind]

guys any1 know gpu or display scaling for playing valorant or fps games?

[iron wave]

Just use whatever you think looks best.

[zenith silo]

Display

[zenith silo]

i always left full screen on for games i played stretched on

[placid wind]

okk ty guys will have a try

[deft sapphire]

Never oced my ram tbh

[sharp badger]

Well if you've enabled XMP/EXPO then you've overclocked it

[reef patrol]

Debatable.

[sharp badger]

Yes

[deft sapphire]

Never did

I mean DDR5 is fast enough and I never had problems with DDR4 as well so

[reef patrol]

I'd argue that if the manufacturer sells RAM with a specified speed, it isn't overclocking until you surpass those specs 😄

[sharp badger]

Default speed vs Tested speed, yes

[ashen spindle]

technically the manufacturer doesnt sell the ram, unless you buy from like samsung directly and they sell jedec only kits

if you buy corsair and they test it for xmp speeds they are like an AiB not the manufacturer

[reef patrol]

If I buy bread at a supermarket, I'm not buying the flour - I'm buying the BREAD.

Doesn't matter who made the flour either, they're not the ones selling me shit 😄

Actually lemme redo that analogy on account on just waking up.

[thick elk]

My take on XMP/EXPO has always been it cannot reasonably seen as an OC of the memory module (as it is being rated and advertised as such) it is however an overclock of the IMC on the system itself.

[ashen spindle]

it is specified for the product you buy so you are fine if it doesnt work to return it to said AiB for example but if you are looking at is it OC when putting it in a PC then it matters what the jedec speeds are

[sharp badger]

Wasn't there some Warranty thing about this a few years ago?

[reef patrol]

It's not like Intel and AMD are telling you not to use rated XMP profiles. So again - As long as you're sticking to the recipe, not an overclock. Everyone's on board with those settings.

[ashen spindle]

but intel and amd tell you guaranteed numbers and over that it is not 100% confirmed from amd or intel

so those are OCd

[reef patrol]

Not my problem. They dictate how things are done to motherboard manufacturers.

[fair gull]

what about BIOS ai overclocking thingies where the bios automatically does stuff

would i be liable for something the pc does

[ashen spindle]

that's what I keep saying xD for the product if you can be at fault or not is something else than it counting as OC for the simple sake of thats why it might not work sometimes

[reef patrol]

My issue here is calling it an overclock, when you're literally setting rated speeds. That's all.

It's like Tesla complaining that you enable a feature. 😄

[ashen spindle]

rated speeds but you have 3 different hardware components setting rated speeds

its like saying you put 25kg tires that are tire approved on a tesla that says only 24kg tires are guaranteed

idk dont know tire things

[reef patrol]

And at the end of the day Intel and AMD dictate those standards.

It's called Intel XMP for a reason.

goes back to answering emails

[ashen spindle]

literally the first sentence on intels website

[ashen spindle]

I'll let you go after you confirm you read intel calling it an overclock on the xmp page

[thick elk]

XMP is still the rated speed of the memory module itself. It is sold to consumers at that speed and a module that never meets xmp is still false advertising IMO.

Doesn't mean it has to on every setup though.

[digital cliff]

trying to get mansen to admit he's in the wrong 👀

blood from a stone and all that

[ashen spindle]

the stick is tested for xmp speed, memory module is only ever rated for jedec speed

[reef patrol]

Again I don't care what Intel calls it. The standards are dictated, and no one considers running things at their RATED SPEEDS an overclock, except on paper when it's convenient for them.

If I buy 3600Mhz RAM, I don't expect it to run at 2133Mhz, just because JEDEC technically says so.

And doing the ACTJSUALLY pushes glasses up thing to point out that it's an overclock is just stupid.

[thick elk]

True, however as a consumer that is what matters.

Just like if a pre-overclocked system sold with said overclock is unstable it would still be at fault.

If a corsair or something sells / advertises a module at a certain speed one is expected to be able to use it as such.

[reef patrol]

It's not like RAM manufacturers (component or the final product) are doing some kind of black market shit, where they ignore standards and play fast and loose with the rules.

[ashen spindle]

the issue is ram retailers selling it while omitting the fact those are not rated numbers but OC'd numbers

anything else is very clear it's overclocking

[reef patrol]

If Intel and AMD start doing comparisons at JEDEC speeds, I might be open to a consideration to change my mind. But they expect everything to run at XMP speeds as well 😛

[ashen spindle]

so if intel does another water chiller xeon demo you think that's not OC because they tested it like that? 😛

[digital cliff]

stone 1 - gang 0

[reef patrol]

If everyone runs XMP as the standard speeds, it's not an overclock. It isn't going beyond the rated specifications in practice, no matter what JEDEC might imply. 😄

[ashen spindle]

yea I keep saying, for consumer it doesn't put more blame on them but it also doesnt change that out of spec is out of spec

[ashen spindle]

if it is stable enough to recommend it or do it by default that is great but does not change that an overclock is an overclock, however it means if you push that narrative consumers should expect it but also that it could still just not work due to being out of spec

I fully agree with your point on that as the end user it's different than if you oc a cpu to 7ghz or something silly

[reef patrol]

Like I said - If Intel shows all of their marketing material for the new 14700K using a setup that has XMP enabled, they have absolutely no business telling anyone that using XMP is "an overclock".

It's literally what they marketed their product "as rated"

[thick elk]

I would argue it's false advertising, systems are commonly sold without xmp, people commonly don't enbable it.

[reef patrol]

(You're more than welcome to disagree of course. This is a hill I'm dying on 😄 )

[reef patrol]

Not that I've ever noticed, outside of just bad PC building practices.

[ashen spindle]

oh I know, that's why I said all I wanted was for you to see what intel calls it

[reef patrol]

They can call it "Chuckles amazing circus of fun" for all I care. If they use XMP as the standard, it's within spec.

[ashen spindle]

for something like warranty sure for the technical aspect of what it is, no

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[ashen spindle]

because intel is not the one making the spec

[reef patrol]

Doesn't matter. They show off their products running with RAM rated at those speeds, regardless of JEDEC.

[ashen spindle]

if they make their own ram and rate it at those speeds or show it for that, sure

[reef patrol]

No. Doesn't matter whose RAM they use. They showed it off - That's signing off on it.

Setting expectations for what rated means.

[ashen spindle]

but then they are showing of hey the cpu can do this overclocked ram, not that every overclocked ram works like that

[reef patrol]

Anyway - I've made my position quite clear on the matter. We're just going in circles here. 😄

[ashen spindle]

or just get vcache and see that jedec is basically enough now

I really hope they dont wait with Z5V till much later..

yeah because they overcharge for wattage increases

just make sure its still good quality at lower watts becuase you dont want to cheap out on what could kill the rest of the system

lmfao

[fair gull]

are we back to this

china makes stuff heavier again for no reason

id be happy about a light PSU lol.... so much easier to handle while building a pc

[thick elk]

I like the sticker calling the 500w peak power

[analog sinew]

it can probably do more in the moment it incinerates

chernobyl style

[thick elk]

oh no of course we don't do 500w sustained, it's just a 1ms peak before shutdown.

[umbral heron]

Oh, and they aren't horrendously priced, that's nice

[scarlet tiger]

what cpu better than ryzen 5 3600x and good for gaming>

?

[old marlin]

7800x3d

[umbral heron]

AM4-based 5800X3D, AM5-based 7800X3D

[reef patrol]

Was about to say - the 5800X3D is as good as it gets with your current motherboard and RAM most likely. Though I would definitely check and see if it's compatible first.

[latent kiln]

7800X3D still blows anything else away even the more expensive offers from Amd

[umbral heron]

[reef patrol]

At any rate going AM5 is a lot more expensive as an upgrade path - And one I was recently told not to pursue in here? 😛

Because it's going to be replaced soon enough.

[ashen spindle]

Am5 is not going to get replaced but you get better cpus for it soon

[reef patrol]

I could have worded that better 😄

[ashen spindle]

So if you don’t want something now it would be a shame but if you want one now it’s still the go to

[reef patrol]

The CURRENT lineup of AM5*

[ashen spindle]

Ah yea

[teal pebble]

Is there any way to make it so when you use gamepad mode for example WASD for movement

Can you make it so you still can type with it

[umbral heron]

That's what you have multiple profiles for

[teal pebble]

Yeah but pretty annoying to have to switch for when u wanna type

[thick elk]

In some games you can unbind wasd and keep both active at the same time.

[umbral heron]

Keyboard sends an input, that's it. It doesn't know which app you're using at the moment

[teal pebble]

Alright thank u

[steady tartan]

This CPUs memory controller blows itself with time too

There are videos about this topic on YouTube

[ashen spindle]

Wtf does that even mean

Do you mean the dying cpus because asus and other boards had insane settings?

[halcyon moss]

ooh, one ui6 for my s21u

[old marlin]

got it recently on my a54

though tbh idk what really changed

besides a few new fonts

and "better battery life"

[latent kiln]

I hope the new Nvidia GPUs in January will be more affordable

[old marlin]

let's hope they are better value

[ashen spindle]

It’s going to be the same as existing ones with a tiny bios and if you are lucky same prices

[latent kiln]

I might consider a 4080 Super

[old marlin]

don't say that

before you know price and performance

[latent kiln]

Hence why I said might

[ashen spindle]

There is even a chance it costs more depending on how much closer they put it to the 4090

[latent kiln]

Those greedy fuckers

But AMD is also greedy with their GPUs

They just have to be cheaper cuz everyone wants Nvidia

[umbral heron]

Duopoly of consumer GPU manufacturers
Here's hoping Intel will catch up

[latent kiln]

Yeah i hope so

Intel is just not in the high end market yet

So I'm not considering their GPUs

[ashen spindle]

Yeah give up hope on intel catching up and on stuff getting cheaper

Even without duopoly costs are just going to go up and up

[latent kiln]

They probably will catch up eventually

But not for long

[umbral heron]

And some of their solutions are wacky
Why use D3D9On12 instead of DXVK?

[ashen spindle]

They will probably not make many more gpus after battlemage is my guess

[ashen spindle]

Any why do you think so?

[latent kiln]

They might want to get into the market for real

Right now they are getting destroyed in the cpu market

[halcyon moss]

midrangers and one up is what we need :p

[latent kiln]

I want a high end card from intel

[ashen spindle]

I mean they are getting destroyed harder in gpu market lol

[latent kiln]

Yeah but they are new to it so obviously

But they aren't new to CPUS

[ashen spindle]

Yeah so it’s easier to bounce back on cpu side

[latent kiln]

Of course

[ashen spindle]

Gpu is just a race of how far do they get before it’s getting cut

[latent kiln]

But yeah. Intel is out of the picture for me

[analog sinew]

tbh they have done more than i expected

[hardy idol]

👀

[umbral heron]

[raw zephyr]

that was rather quick? i remember waiting over a month for a keyboard cable

[hardy idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-awkward-awkward-cat-cat-awkward-gif-24906225

[rough osprey]

crazy price

[latent mural]

not really tho

[rough osprey]

rip asus

[latent mural]

oh

you meant crazy good

[rough osprey]

yee

[astral haven]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Display-teases-new-QD-OLED-gaming-monitor-panels-before-CES-2024-introductions.783024.0.html
4k240 qdoled coming!

[rough osprey]

i think this is a bug tho

[ashen spindle]

would say too bad its not ultrawide 4k

[rough osprey]

it adds a xl2566k to cart

[ashen spindle]

but we need some much better gpus for that to be usefull xD

[astral haven]

ces hasnt happened yet

[ashen spindle]

ohhhh 360hz for 2k

[astral haven]

ye!

[ashen spindle]

if that has a working BFI...

[astral haven]

180hz if you make your own bfi lel

[ashen spindle]

well yeah obviosuly halving fps but instead of some jank I'd want something good built it

[astral haven]

yea

[rough osprey]

the monitor is supposed to release in q1 next year

the probably copied something for the 240hz one that includes the 360hz page

and just renamed it to 540

[ashen spindle]

maybe ces 25 will have new ultrawides and by then we also get mmore info on future gpus if that is even something I'd want lol

[rough osprey]

does someone here have a Phillips 8000 27E1N8900?

[reef patrol]

What kind of cursed console outputs 4K in PAL25/50??

[fair gull]

thats the upscaled output i think

[reef patrol]

That makes a LOT more sense

[sharp badger]

How are UW monitors when gaming? do cutscenes go to 16:9?

[ashen spindle]

depends on the game

if its pre rendered to 16:9 it will add black bars

if its a ingame cutscene it wont change

if its pre rendered at larger format it also will just work

[sharp badger]

Ok 🤔

[umbral heron]

Ah, I used to play a lot on 1152 x 864

[sharp badger]

Yeah 👀

[ashen spindle]

never checked it tbh

most just work

[latent mural]

540hz 😍

[sharp badger]

Well will have to wait and see what monitors will be revealed at CES 2024

[latent mural]

you're totally right though ngl, im on win10 still

[ashen spindle]

well they kinda have to if they use 12/13/14th gen

so that will be a lot of them

I mean guess they dont have to but that would be even stupider

[sharp badger]

Is AM5 better with W10?

[ashen spindle]

no it's just that w11 has the thread director

[sharp badger]

Aah i see

[vagrant pagoda]

So slow though

540hz tn won't beat a 140hz OLED XD

[gusty kiln]

540 with BFI though

[latent mural]

huh how? 540 cycles a second is slower than 140 and 360?

[gusty kiln]

depends on the response time

but I think those 540 actually have fast enough pixel response to not be shit

[sharp badger]

Was looking at the PG27AQDM but read that it had some Black crush & Dark colour banding flaws

[gusty kiln]

that's why the qd-oled version will be way better

I hope those qd-oled ones will have a kvm

[latent mural]

mmmm is that why people are saying OLEDs "compete" with CRTs

[gusty kiln]

crt still looks better in motion

cuz not sample and hold

[astral haven]

hype for strobing oleds outside of vr headsets

[gusty kiln]

yeet

[sharp badger]

Is there any QD-OLED in 16:9?

[gusty kiln]

carm just posted

[latent mural]

wouldnt a 75hz crt be beat by 540hz lcd though? by that point wouldnt the frametime of 75hz on the crt make it too slow

[sharp badger]

Ooh nice 🤓

[astral haven]

most crts are between 2 and 5 MS

so yes

[sharp badger]

Will have to wait for CES for some potential release dates 😴

Also nice to play AW2 again final draft this time

[gusty kiln]

I'll wait for a brand to include a kvm

[final flame]

we need pip displays to make a comeback

[latent mural]

laptops with hdmi in again would be very nice

[gusty kiln]

pbp is great with super ultrawide

[sharp badger]

Well hope to get a earlier release then for the monitors 😴

[astral haven]

gigabyte has been focusing on that

and the lenovo tio monitors do too

[ashen spindle]

https://community.amd.com/t5/instinct-accelerators/competitive-performance-claims-and-industry-leading-inference/ba-p/652304 hell yeah its a full on kindergarten fight in PR now lmfao

[astral haven]

I really hope that everyone switches to usbc on the monitor side, and everything comes automatically with kvm support

https://www.amazon.com/WJESOG-DisplayPort-Adapter-Converter-Thunderbolt/dp/B0BNX7MS6N?th=1
using this sort of cable

[umbral heron]

Long live DisplayPort 🥳

[astral haven]

down with displayport ports, long live display port alt mode over usbc

i really hope that gpus start adding 65 and 100w usb c output ports, and then we can drive full size displays without power bricks

that is super wishful tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmFmsn6VZSM
oh my god its fantastic

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTz7RsPLkE8 oh rtings updated their keyboard testing

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

doesnt include wooting

yeah I just saw it and skimmed though, keyboards I'm not too interested in so I'm not going to check that out in depth

[astral haven]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/One-Netbook-teases-OneXplayer-X1-11-inch-gaming-convertible-with-Intel-Core-Ultra-H-7-CPU-and-OCulink-port.783918.0.html

interesting

[ashen spindle]

the functionality list could be song lyrics form a weird al song

ahhhh transparent flow charts, kill it with fire

[umbral heron]

[thick elk]

Ah dark theme issues, no problems with the flow chart using a normal theme.

[stuck surge]

https://tenor.com/view/goomba-super_mario_64-punch-mario-punch-knocked-out-gif-27335486

[wheat plume]

ZorinOS is so pretty

[ashen spindle]

Yeah MTL only launched now and not CES because roadmaps said it would launch this year

[wheat plume]

Just wondering why this options is the 4th panel on this intro tour

[digital cliff]

yeah it's kinda nice-looking for sure

used to use it for a while but I no longer have a use for it since my laptop is actually pretending to be a raspberry pi these days

[wheat plume]

just wish this new release wasnt based on last year's Ubuntu release ;-; its already sort of out of date

[digital cliff]

has raspbian installed on it for god's sake

[wheat plume]

o

[digital cliff]

raspberry pi's were too expensive so I just repurposed my laptop lol

[warm night]

that's one way to do it

itd be fun to get a pi just to mess around with or even actually do something useful with (impossible challenge for me)

[umbral heron]

Mine collects dust and hosts piHole, dnsmasq and Home Assistant

[digital cliff]

the laptop runs my 3d printer which is "useful", but otherwise I have plenty of microcontrollers that I bought for the purpose of making something useful but they all just collect dust

actually one microcontroller lives in my 1:24-scale microcrawler and lets me turn on headlights from the remote very useful

need to be on top of road safety after all

[wheat plume]

I really want a raspberry 5

[real island]

do i have to take my whole motherboard out if i just need to change my cpu and its cooler?

[umbral heron]

No, just unplug all the cables, and you should be fine

[latent mural]

What’s this

[iron wave]

It's just another Chrome skin.

[crisp granite]

👌

[misty saffron]

so why do people hate the new mobile discord layout

it’s alright

just enabled it

[raw zephyr]

no idea, the only thing i dislike is the member list, swipe from top instead of right

[latent mural]

Same

[misty saffron]

they’ve fixed most annoying things about it

people just being people i guess

[raw zephyr]

people will complain about everything

[digital cliff]

yeah it's just resistance to change as always

[lofty pivot]

what they actually do need to fix on discord mobile is the search function

the search only searches the one channel instead of the entire server

[final flame]

Finally, I managed to make this rainmeter skin work

and it only updates on album change, so it won't swap album art on each song change

probably should add some noise to fix the banding a bit

I can care less if I want to get them to work, since each time it updates the bg ablum art it has to do the processing, which while small and takes less than a second, it still isn't something you want happening constantly on each song change

I tried to minimize processing power by resizing the album art first down to 240p then crop it to 16:9 then to the blur

could probably get away with an even lower resolution

all my stuff is in either tall format or in square

overall pleased with the final result

[latent mural]

search sucks (has less features than desktop's), userlist is more of a hassle to access, once again continuing to break away from desktop instead of trying to unify them under similar design

Re: "wHaT dO yOu NeEd UsErLiSt FoR"

for a server like this, nothing. for a personal server with friends, the old swipe left was a great way to see who's on without having to ask or navigate with a bunch of extra swipes and taps

[misty saffron]

search sucks (has less features than desktop's)
incorrect

[latent mural]

it's missing in:

[misty saffron]

no

[latent mural]

so yes it has less features

i checked

[misty saffron]

i did too

[latent mural]

where's in:

[misty saffron]

here

[latent mural]

you're just pointing at a search bar

uh huh

[misty saffron]

android issue

[ashen spindle]

No it’s two separate search bars

[misty saffron]

the one i pointed at?

[ashen spindle]

Hollow points to the one that has in: because it’s the Server search

The one in a channel doesn’t have in: because it’s already using only that channel

[hard wadi]

[latent mural]

oh ffs

that's cringe

[hard wadi]

They brought back the option to switch to the old ui

Just use that

Lol

If that's what you prefer

[latent mural]

ironically i liked the previous attempt at a "new ui" more b/c it was actually better thought out, with servers being something you could switch between with your thumb from the bottom of the screen instead of needing to swipe left and then reeeeach it over or 2 hand it

just, minus the crashing and performance issues of course

[misty saffron]

once again continuing to break away from desktop instead of trying to unify them under similar design
also, bad take

phone and desktop are two very different experiences

[latent mural]

a tap instead of a type or a click, a swipe instead of a scroll, a pinch instead of a ctrl -=

[misty saffron]

yeah and a display rotated 90 degrees

an undersized display rotated 90 degrees

have you tried operating a desktop touchscreen with a foot?

[latent mural]

90 degrees would be more viable on desktop if they didn't cover everything with incredibly thick padding

[ashen spindle]

https://www.amd.com/content/dam/amd/en/documents/pensando-technical-docs/article/amd-ai-networking-direction-and-strategy.pdf @astral haven

Not exactly much detail but has some general plans

[wheat plume]

Based Sahil

🤔 nah

[final flame]

the guy pays for twitter, opinion automatically ignored

[wheat plume]

^ true

[raw zephyr]

his point is kinda valid tho, you can buy a 2 yr old iphone and still use it for 4 years, meanwhile the average android phone loses support for major releases a year into it's life cycle

i kinda don't believe what google said about the pixel major releases, they are gonna drop it once they start losing money from phone sales

[frozen ingot]

person who simps for brand x instead of brand y is sexy

no

grow up and stop caring what brands people use

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DtHEJ5BrJM

[thick elk]

You can only hear people say AI so much, until it started to sound like en jij

[pale sigil]

Ayyi

[steady tartan]

Tell that to women who lose interest in a guy cuz he uses Android phone and not Apple's iPhone

Mainly USA hoes

Brainrot consumerbots

[old marlin]

ok

[steady tartan]

My new OnePlus eats your dogshit iPhone with its left nostril you dumb bimbo

[old marlin]

no new oneplusses here

[steady tartan]

But im glad such stupid fucks exist, so they callout themselves at the beginning and not half way through the relationship

[fickle ore]

stop caring about these kind of women? thats easiest dodge in world bro

[cinder tinsel]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Keycaps-Japanese-Minimalist-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B09ZHR76DY
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ranked-Blank-PBT-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B09X1RKJR7
https://www.amazon.co.uk/aikeec-Mechanical-Mountain-Keyboard-Handmade/dp/B08Z7ZJ77W
Is this combo good? Mountain keycap for esc. the main for letters is the japanese and for shift and enter etc. the blank black ones

[astral haven]

IPhone se 2022 debunks that real hard
Such an awful device to use, and my android is a year older and vastly better, and used market they are now the same price (for the same amount of storage)
And my android is still promised another 2 android versions unlike Apple which promises what exactly?
OH yea Apple promises nothing, they just provide updates as long as they feel like it

[stuck surge]

why people care so much for phones, they stalled years ago

all modern phones do the same thing

obviously iphone sucks more because they are doing everything for you to be unable to fix it and for you to use apple ecosystem

[smoky frigate]

looking forward to removable batteries in 2027, but that's kinda it

[wheat plume]

Does a removable battery even matter if most phones only get 1-2 years of software updates anyway!???

Sure
You can use the phone for longer than that but it's not going to get security patches

[smoky frigate]

I use LineageOS, I get a bit longer support

[wheat plume]

Yeh
But you need to be conscious to buy a phone that supports custom ROMs

Not all phones do

[rough osprey]

damn what phone brand is you using

[smoky frigate]

sure, but I don't buy that kind of phone!

[wheat plume]

Xiaomi .....

I currently have Android 14 purely because I have a custom ROM installed
This phone was only meant to go to Android 12

[smoky frigate]

using xiaomi too. nice specs, but already had to repair it two times. here's hoping it lasts me another 3 years

[wheat plume]

It basically takes the Pixel 6A ROM updates and gives them to us as an update

[smoky frigate]

what custom rom? I'm getting sick of LOS

[astral haven]

i use my phones as a monocular, and the number of phones with superhuman zoom is extremely limited

[wheat plume]

Pixel Experience Plus

Plus is just PE + extra features

[rough osprey]

the big ones seem to offer more then enough updates now

[stuck surge]

and you can buy camera for the price of s23 ultra which has way better zoom

so i dont get the point

[astral haven]

but you cant buy a phone and a camera that both fit in the same pocket

[halcyon moss]

I pick my phone on software support. I picked my s21u because it gets 5 years, and I plan to use it for atleast 4 years

[stuck surge]

i guess if thats your thing

[astral haven]

and a camera on the same level is about the same price

cameras arent keeping up with the phones

[wheat plume]

Yeah
If I liked oneUI I'd also have gotten a Samsung

[halcyon moss]

What about one ui is bad? It all ok. It never bothers me in any way and even has eztras

[wheat plume]

I like the features of OneUI, Especially Good Lock, but the UI looks ugly AF to me, especially the status bar icons...they look like they are taken right from Android 4

[rough osprey]

truee

they should just use a more stock android look

[wheat plume]

Pixel status bar icons = best status bar icons

[astral haven]

wait you are saying they dont look as good as this?

what are you smoking?

[wheat plume]

I prefer this a lot better than the ones on OneUI

These are modern

[astral haven]

modern more like nutered

[steep creek]

yea ill slide with one ui on this one

[wheat plume]

This shit looks horrible like 2003 era and it's way too small

[astral haven]

its the same size

[wheat plume]

They aren't

[astral haven]

actually its larger

[wheat plume]

Idk I just really hate them

And the app icons too for Samsung apps look like they are from a phone designed for kids

[astral haven]

are you aware that app icons are customizeable?

[rough osprey]

they do fit the google app icon style

[wheat plume]

Yes
I know

If you use a different launcher

[rough osprey]

nah

[wheat plume]

That may not work with navigation gestures

[astral haven]

good news is that nova works with navigation gestures

[rough osprey]

you can also use custom icons without extra launcher

[astral haven]

also that

[wheat plume]

Yeh
It does
It's a little jank but it works!

[astral haven]

nah, update, samsung fixed that

[cinder tinsel]

?

[astral haven]

and i think nova did some work on their side too

might want to go to #archived_keebs_talk

[wheat plume]

oneUI looks pretty nice in light theme

[ashen spindle]

why would getting 1-2 yers of software support mean replaceable battires dont matter?

just dont get the latest os and phone still works

like what are you doing that you need security patches if it's not an issue like it can be hacked from just wifi connection

[thick elk]

I like the idea of being on the latest security patches as well but yea in practice it's not a real threat.

[ashen spindle]

and thats assuming some insane phone update stops security updates after a year, that would mean feature updates stop before the next phone is out lmfao

[wheat plume]

Why is the YouTube UI so low down now????????

[rough osprey]

i think your app is broken

restart it maybe

[astral haven]

and thats not to mention that most online connected apps get updates, and even if your vendor saddles you with an infrequently updating browser or whatever, you can usually yeet it from your launcher and replace it with an actually updating one

its not like ios where you arent allowed to bring your own browser engine...

[ashen spindle]

yeah but you can also expect like 5+ years of os updates on any apple (idk about budget Se line support)

[rough osprey]

ye that's cool

[astral haven]

you still get the years but that doesnt make the phones any more pleasant to use

[rough osprey]

doesn't have all features but still

[astral haven]

and my s5 is alot older than the se

[ashen spindle]

yeah but in terms of having updates

[astral haven]

and it still can run a brand new browser fully up to date

[ashen spindle]

if I could just easily replace my battery in the i6s pluys I had I might still be using it lol

[astral haven]

batt replacements in the i6s are actually pretty easy

[rough osprey]

only getting problematic when your app don't support your android version anymore

[astral haven]

which takes a whiile

and there are still alternatives

[ashen spindle]

no because when I got when when I also had a screne broken that needed repair the repair shop either fucked it up or something broke from the screen breaking

[astral haven]

its also not like on ios where if the app is too old it disappears from the app store

even tho its gone from the play store, there are still things like fdroid and the general internet where you can get them

[thick elk]

You can get the latest apps on some pretty old android still. Where especially banks cut you off on ios after support ends relatively soon.

My experience with an ipad air vs some crappy android tablet that was newer but got its support dropped fast.

[astral haven]

was your phone kinky?

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

uhh dont think so

was a 6splus so idk if those were less prone for that

[astral haven]

far more prone

at least compared to the smaller dudes

i had some iphone 8s come in that i wasnt allowed to touch due to bendiung

and those had a glass back which couldnt bend

[ashen spindle]

checked, almost perfectly flat

[astral haven]

hmm

idk its pretty braindead easy to do a screen and battery swap

significantly easier to do both at the same time

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ was fine to get a newr one that would just be faster and has better camera so I didnt care much

[astral haven]

yep, tis normal

its only when apple started serializing the screens and various parts attached to the screens that the repairs became a huge pain

and afaik that wasnt a problem on anything prior to the x?

maybe 8 too

[open pagoda]

I'm thinking about buying my first wooting soon, is this the right time to buy it or should I wait for the tkl?

[reef patrol]

Do you want to wait six to nine months? 😄

[woven laurel]

no. so release it tomorrow

[open pagoda]

🤣 no

[ashen spindle]

https://asia.siggraph.org/2023/presentation/?id=papers_744&sess=sess155

[cinder tinsel]

Btw what lube can you recommend to use to lube the lekker switches?

[maiden sapphire]

205 g0

[ashen spindle]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-s-Metal-FX-upscaling-is-powered-by-AMD-FidelityFX-Super-Resolution-technology.784429.0.html

[cinder tinsel]

is this good? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Keyboard-G0，Switch-Switches，Switch-Brush，Ideal-Mechanical/dp/B0CLCMLFC2

[cursive summit]

Not buying the Wooting lube kit?

[steep creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwbMHFdRqPo

[ashen spindle]

so seems like lower settings are basically just FSR1 and only some settings above it actually use custom npu things lol

so typical apple to just take something and market it like their completely own tech

[cinder tinsel]

what type of tape should you use to mod the keyboard with tape mod

?

is this good? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ScotchBlue-Multi-Surface-Premium-Masking-Tape/dp/B084B8351C

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sumind-Keyboard-Dampeners-Plastic-Mechanical/dp/B0761TSWF3
are these rings going to be good to put for example spacebar, enter and other function keys?

[cinder tinsel]

just for function keys

[ashen spindle]

I just think it's really funny its FSR1 and not even 2 for the lower resolutions

like it's good that using tech is being used just funny that they are trying to hide it as much as they can and all

[stuck surge]

Fsr2 sucks too for lower res unfortunately

[lofty pivot]

That video was very well done. Shows a lot of the seedy absurd behaviour that goes on behind the scenes with a lot of YouTube stuff

[wheat plume]

🤢 I hate her

[ashen spindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/yuuki_ans/status/1736264922349379774

Man nearly 200 cores on that package is still so insane to see

[wheat plume]

🤔 opening OBS Studio automatically enables DND on plasma desktop, thats pretty sweet!

[pale sigil]

I mean

The issue here is using plasma

[wheat plume]

While I do prefer Gnome desktop, I still love Plasma desktop a lot xd

how do I make a python sockets client and server that gives me multiple choices to make and has a database of stuff for the client to request???

[halcyon moss]

That's a nice app tbh

A socket is a network connection

@wheat plume i assume you found this already https://docs.python.org/3/library/socket.html#example

[wheat plume]

yes

[halcyon moss]

That gives you a basic client and basic server

[wheat plume]

IDK how to make this work ;-;

[reef patrol]

Guess you've got a long sunday of studying to do then.

[wheat plume]

I only have until tomorrow to do all this shit :/

this is only part one of the assigngment

there is another 4 parts

part 2 Modify the sockets server program to handle multiple simultaneous client connections. Part 3 With such sensitive information, it would be good to keep track of access to the system (i.e . an activity log). Modify the server so that each time a request is received for a employee, a message is sent to a message queue with the employee id, the command and options sent from the client, as well as IP address details. Then write a simple script to print out the activity log details. Use RabbitMQ. Part 4 Put the server into a Docker container

[halcyon moss]

Oh fun

[wheat plume]

.-.

[reef patrol]

I mean... if that's what they're expecting, and you don't know any of it. Maybe it's not the right fit for a job right now?

[halcyon moss]

Sounds like a fun afternoon to write that

[wheat plume]

my issue is python, despite them adverting the position will be using c# ..,. why is the application test in python?

[halcyon moss]

Because python is fast to write

And easy to read

[wheat plume]

if you know what to do...

no its not easy to read .-.

[halcyon moss]

Do you know how to do this in c#?

Because the principles are exactly the same

[wheat plume]

no, but I know how to write in this language so itll be easier to figure the server client shit out

[halcyon moss]

Write in c# and use Ai to translate lol

And get weird ass python

[wheat plume]

.....im so bad at python I need help aking a list with all the employee details in it .-.

..time to see if this works

nope

[woven laurel]

well yeah that first line under your function isnt working.

[wheat plume]

fixed it

def get_employee_details(id):
   employee = employees.get(id)
   if employee is None:
       print("Sorry... I don't recognise that employee id")
   else:
       year_salary = employee['MonthlySalary'] * 12
       
       print(f"\nEmployee {employee['Name']}:")
       print(f"Current Monthly Salary: {employee['MonthlySalary']}")
       print(f"Current Annual Salary: {year_salary}")
       print(f"Current Annual Leave Entitlement: {employee['AnnualLeaveDays']}")
       print(f"Currently used days of Annual Leave: {employee['LeaveDaysUsed']}\n")

[wheat plume]

imma do all the code hardcoded for now
then try to split it into client and server once it all works

made progress so far, making sure the ID get validated

but its not a server yet..

[misty saffron]

"Sorry... I don't recognise that employee id"

just do a chad segfault

[ashen spindle]

can python even do that?

[misty saffron]

if you're good/bad enough

[misty saffron]

i'd call that function print_employee instead, though

[wheat plume]

yeah, good point

I wont be using this method anyway in the final code, its not a requirement

red output :D

[halcyon moss]

Fun, but that won't travel over sockets :p

[wheat plume]

oh...

but its a direct string format?

[misty saffron]

woohoo magic numbers

[halcyon moss]

If you think it's good practice to send formatted strings over the network.. Sure 😉

[wheat plume]

What does he mean by wanting a screen recording of the code??

I'm sending the code
He'll be able to see it all anyway

[wheat plume]

[halcyon moss]

Screen recording of it on action?

[wheat plume]

No
He also wants that

Screen record of the code, of the output, of each part of the code
Of the server logging client commands and ip address

[wheat plume]

It's not safe?

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/qeUH1_fFSUs

ok this is neat

I dont like the idea of the terminal being a flatpak app... it should be fully integrated as a binary into the OS itself

Flatpaks dont have a lot of permissions by default, which a terminal need

[halcyon moss]

No, it's best to change at the very last moment. In the client.

[wheat plume]

oh

[wheat plume]

??

[halcyon moss]

Employee is none

[wheat plume]

I hate python can only call functions that are written above the function call .-.

[halcyon moss]

Not true

[wheat plume]

I want to return to menu if there is an error but menu is the last function in my script

[halcyon moss]

Uh yes true sorry

[wheat plume]

huh?

[halcyon moss]

Did you add the if __name__ is "__main__" thingy?

[wheat plume]

?

[halcyon moss]

Google it

[wheat plume]

year salary is blank... AAAGHHH

[thick elk]

Never note, my default mode of operation is to write functions above or in files loaded by anyway.

To me having a function below where it is called only creates confusion for little use.

[halcyon moss]

0 is not blank

[reef patrol]

Is blank and null the same?

[ashen spindle]

no

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

blank the thing is empty, null it doesnt exist

[halcyon moss]

None and 0 are not the same either :p

@wheat plume have you worked on the hard part.. the sockets yet? or are you making an other quistion answer commandline tool?

[ashen spindle]

Think of it like a house address, it can be correct, there could be no house at the place, there could be no place where the address matches, the address in the book could say empty, or it could be missing etc.

[wheat plume]

Im making it function first then I will try to make it into a server and client socket server thing like he wants

Actually, I just got it done

Now I need to actually make it a socket server .-. the part IDK how TF to do

[woven laurel]

sockets is really important to know

[wheat plume]

and they are so fucking complicated ;-;

[halcyon moss]

start with the example from the sockets docs

[wheat plume]

I need to use RabbitMQ for part of it too :/

[halcyon moss]

thats later, and separate

[wheat plume]

;-;

Python Socket Server Help

idk how to begin ;--;

[ashen spindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1736430968880103612 yo this is cool

[wheat plume]

Apparently on the very first batch of Decks
There is a chip inside that gets fried if you replace the SSD with one that has a higher power requirement
.....

https://youtu.be/soJsT8TVuok

But the second batch and onwards are safe, it seems

[pale sigil]

I'm good then

[wheat plume]

He swore to never buy Valve hardware ever again

🤦‍♀️

[pale sigil]

Id be salty

[frozen ingot]

I'm sure gabe cries himself to sleep from learning that

[wheat plume]

Xf

[ashen spindle]

what are you even talking about he literally ends the video by saying he bought an oled deck

[wheat plume]

Yea, which is interesting after him saying that xd

[ashen spindle]

not really what he says

[ashen spindle]

https://chipsandcheese.com/2023/12/17/amds-cdna-3-compute-architecture/

[gusty kiln]

shame steam deck 2 is still another 2-3 years away

[ashen spindle]

yea

competetive with 4090 prices 🙂

[smoky frigate]

Intel is ass but I hope their gpus do catch on

I'd make a pact with the devil to get somebody to shake up that duopoly

[ashen spindle]

intel doing a charity deal indeed

[gusty kiln]

buy cheap intel gpu for secondary monitors along so your AMD gpu can idle lower

[halcyon moss]

But Intel idle was super high afaik

[ashen spindle]

nah its fine

[gusty kiln]

easiest fix would be to use the igpu

[boreal kiln]

m3k just launched https://zaunkoenig.co/m3k

[stuck surge]

wtf is space grade cable

it looks like cardboard mouse with carbon fiber skin

[old marlin]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-fsr-is-the-building-block-for-apples-metalfx-upscaling-tech-the-apps-legal-info-references-the-usage-of-amd-fsr

[smoky frigate]

considering the OG res is slightly above 480p.. wow!

[ashen spindle]

and the output res is 720p or whats that

[smoky frigate]

(youtube compression takes away from it ofc)

[smoky frigate]

naw that's 4k

[ashen spindle]

bruh what

[smoky frigate]

oh wait, sorry that segment was recorded at 1080p

derp

[ashen spindle]

like I knew fsr1 wasnt great but that bad for 4k would've been a surprise lol

[ashen spindle]

lmao that is such a massive differences jesus

[smoky frigate]

the static elements tend to look fine, but the wheat is pretty meh

[ashen spindle]

nah even the static snowed wheat clump or what this is is quite good here but bad on the metalfx one

so smeared ont he left half

[smoky frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iXx9lfe62w

looks mostly okay in motion, analyzing zoomed-in frames you will find a lot ofc

[sterile plover]

Space grade cable

[wheat plume]

HAH
Working error handling :D

except on the menu choice .-. it says invalid choice and gives me another prompt to try again and the client just disconnects

[wheat plume]

Pixel Watch 2 has an eSIM built in that can do emergency calls and things if you need it to without you needing a phone plan for it... how does that work?? you still need a phone plan to contact emergency services

[iron wave]

Does anyone happen to know if using OCuLink with x2 would be fine?

As far as I can tell there is no reason for that to cause issues, I just want to ask around a bit to be sure.

[iron wave]

You can do emergency calls without a SIM.

You will get in trouble if you abuse that though.

[iron wave]

I mean, that's just kind of how cell phones work. :V

[latent mural]

This has probably been discussed, but what’s the best solution for fixing led lights on HE Two?

[reef patrol]

Ignoring it

You'll need an experienced solderer, who can safely remove the spill protection coating, desolder and replace the LED

[latent mural]

Fun

TY

[reef patrol]

The coating is the real issue honestly. And getting an appropriate replacement LED

Swapping the LED itself is pretty straightforward if you've ever soldered a bit.

[misty saffron]

is there a solvent that could be used for the coating i wonder

[wheat plume]

I just saw an ad on TV for the Dynamic Island

Not an ad for the iPhone
It was specifically for the island

[empty wren]

Solvents can be quite dangerous sitting there as you inhale them or touch them

Some people seem to think wd40 is a lubricant

When in fact it is a solvent

And it is flammable

[smoky frigate]

against coating, you can try isopropyl

I have inhaled many a solvent anfd ,my brnain is stioll VERY GOOFD thank you

[empty wren]

Well some are worse than others

[empty wren]

Could go with a ultrasonic cleaner depending on the object and throw that into the solvent side too

[smoky frigate]

that should get rid of all of it