It's only 2 benches
#🔌│tech
vagrant pagoda
But the xeons performed poorly
Even the 96c on trx50 did better
Small sample size, but not good
astral haven
yea and its obviously not representative since the 3495x is beating the 2495x
maybe this is using 4800 ram on the xeons?
vagrant pagoda
yea and its obviously not representative since the 3495x is beating the 2495x
They have the same boost though right?
astral haven
which while thats a fair way to test, its still useless for gaming
vagrant pagoda
Yeah that doesn't do much when you're playing at high resolution though
astral haven
he tested down to 1080p 🤷
vagrant pagoda
Yeah and it still did worse loo
vagrant pagoda
Would take a lot of memory tweak to close the gap to even the 96c lol
astral haven
youd be surprised
vagrant pagoda
Especially if you push tr
We are seeing way higher xpo TR kits than xmp Xeon kits
astral haven
my 9900k gets absolutely smoked by my 5950x both stock
and my 9900k just turning xmp on smokes my 5950x
astral haven
We are seeing way higher xpo TR kits than xmp Xeon kits
yea bc xeons have 2DPC available -_-
and ryzen IMC has that special mode that tanks performance but massively boosts max clock
xmp on the 2400x matches the latency of my 5950x
also 2400x is cheaper
with better IO
vagrant pagoda
yea bc xeons have 2DPC available -_-
I didn't get that
It's crazy like Intel forced 2dpc and amd forced 1
astral haven
intel "allows" you to get 1dpc, you just have to buy the board for the 3400 series -_-
you are forced to have 8 dimm slots, and if you want 1dpc, you have to buy a board that has half of the dimms disabled on your cpu
but on the other hand, cpu+board on intel is cheaper than cpu alone on amd
and also gotta remember that these numbers are stock, and the intels overclock vastly better
gotta remember we have had this exact situation before
3175x vs 5950x
and i thought the 5950x would be faster in gaming as well, but thats just wrong
rough osprey
how much did bitdefender pay mkbhd for his last video
astral haven
presumeably less than normal considering how hard it is to get those press passes
astral haven
its a sponsored video?
literally his job to shill for it, and when they pay, they get to say how much shilling is done
it was also interesting that they specifically wanted their logo on the safety equipment
ashen spindle
bitdefender makes cpus now? 
stuck surge
i thought that you talked about the amd video
unborn belfry
could gpl105 work for bearings 
it should actually when I am right
to oil like small bearings for example from a gpu
unborn belfry
it's oil
yeah thats for sure but I am not very sure if its not gonna worse the performance or harm over time
analog sinew
ah yes, the airflow plushie
wheat plume
🤔
how he got Windows to be a tiling window manager?!
even got what looks like the default i3 bar ontop
misty saffron
you know how dwm can be disabled
misty saffron
yea?
wheat plume
is there a tiling window manager for Windows now?!
wheat plume
🤔 thought it wasnt possible to replace the regular desktop on Windows
fair gull
next thing you say is that you thought windows bluescreens and boot errors cant be fixed
wheat plume
bluescreens usually just cause an automatic reboot so no, I wont say that
ashen spindle
powertoys has had fancyzones for years
astral haven
fancyzones isnt technically a tiling wm because it actually functions and you can still have windows outside of the tiling
wheat plume
fancyzones just uses the regular desktop to run shit other than window management
its not a full replacement for the manager and desktop
ashen spindle
kinda does the same
astral haven
nah fancyzones is a window management tool
it only adds functionality
it doesnt make anything harder to use
ashen spindle
it's made by MS so I know but if this old reddit post from 9 years ago has like a dozen listen I guees you can find more than a dozen now if you so fancy https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/2rn775/best_tiled_window_manager_for_windows/
astral haven
im not saying that fancyzones isnt great, it just doesnt have the limitations that most of the linux folks consider to be a core feature of tiling wms
wheat plume
Like having a GUI for settings? LOL
astral haven
avanna pls
wheat plume
that would be great to have for Linux TWMs
a GUI app for the most typical changes people do
astral haven
oh yea i thought you were saying fancyzones didnt have that
i thought alot of the tiling wms have guis
wheat plume
not really, maybe a really easy to use config file but usually never a GUI or TUI etc
wheat plume
but they dont tell you what options you can use, you got to find that out on your own
wheat plume
the harder to use the better
harder to use typically equals more customisable, but certainly not always XD
strong sundial
you could try workspacer
it's on github and works kinda like i3/dwm
idk how old it is though
astral haven
thats a poor definition of customizeable tho
wheat plume
ye xd
astral haven
even if a design is intentionally painful to use, that doesnt make the design more functional
wheat plume
Found a flaw with my janky laptop dock setup
The power button on my laptop is on the keyboard
So when I have it plugged into the dock
I can't press the power button unless I open the lid
astral haven
enable wake on usb
ashen spindle
just look for it, it's just a menu
wheat plume
astral haven
fun, yea its probably in one of those or its under the boot menu
wheat plume
This laptop has fast charging but it's set to regular in the BIOS by default
Interesting
astral haven
im curious about what it shows under amt configuration?
that would allow you to remotely power it up if it actually has stuff
wheat plume
astral haven
holy smokes!
wheat plume
Hmmm?
astral haven
thats usually a feature that manufacturers charge several hundred bucks to add!
wheat plume
O.o
I also noticed this bios is in testing mode :') i have the option to boot it in production mode too
astral haven
might not want to do that?
wheat plume
Nope
astral haven
i suspect half of that menu will be gone lel
fair gull
the solution is to just get a pc
astral haven
nah
wheat plume
the solution is to just get a pc
I have a PC at home
astral haven
speaking of strange laptops
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Szbox-DS135D-New-notebook-with-two-touchscreens.781728.0.html
i wants it
if they come out with an n305 version im likely to pounce
wheat plume
Didn't Lenovo or someone do this already a while back?
wheat plume
Oohh
steep creek
isnt it glass? saw it in store and looked like it at least
wheat plume
Glass can't bend
astral haven
wrong
wheat plume
Glass can't bend without breaking*
astral haven
also wrong
steep creek
the screens are seperate
steep creek
yoga dual
wheat plume
the screens are seperate
Ah I knew it was Lenovo
fair gull
im still contemplating a fold or similar device
no flip
thats the one that folds to a square
astral haven
motorola?
steep creek
dual oleds looked crisp, also touchscreen
astral haven
this absolute disaster of a naming scheme is motorola's flip phone
eu name is razr 40 ultra
steep creek
lol i never understood why companies name the same product differently in other regions
fair gull
i so wish sony would just make an xperia flip
steep creek
yeah now if i look up a lenovo laptop from a US reviewer, the laptop is named something else here
astral haven
i so wish sony would just make an xperia flip
current rumor is sony is killing xperia after 2024 🤦♀️
fair gull
i heard
new design language and such according to it
even though their xperia phones have the best design i know
astral haven
i may end up getting the last xperia
fair gull
same
fair gull
depending on next gen of their phones i will decide what to get
astral haven
yep
fair gull
also depends on what progress foldables make
astral haven
im gonna stick to candybar
fair gull
ideally id love for a foldable that has hard glass displays except for the folding bit
my biggest fear with them rn is damaging it with well... finger nails
astral haven
growing glass on top of an oled seems like it wouldnt work
and youd have to grow it since you need the folding part to be super thin
wheat plume
🤔 Why Linus got an LG Wing?
astral haven
and the press would absolutely lambast it
astral haven
🤔 Why Linus got an LG Wing?
its your fault
wheat plume
and yours too
wheat plume
🤔
im guessing the video is about how LG are no longer making phones cause no one bought them?
wheat plume
oh xd
fair gull
and the press would absolutely lambast it
yah well ill see what foldables hold in the future
astral haven
im getting a phone in summer
and its between the s24u, the xperia 1 6 and the xiaomi 14 ultra
empty wren
yah well ill see what foldables hold in the future
Rollables is where it is at😏
astral haven
name one
wheat plume
TBF, Id love to try out the LG Wing, its fucking cool
astral haven
did you watch the video?
wheat plume
no
astral haven
idk i suspect itll make you not want to lel
fair gull
and its between the s24u, the xperia 1 6 and the xiaomi 14 ultra
theres a x 1 6?
i thought 5 was this year
astral haven
Motorola rollable concept
did they ever actually make a device or just the screen (motorola)
and the lg isnt a phone either
empty wren
did they ever actually make a device or just the screen (motorola)
and the lg is...
probably just the screen and past that vaporware sadly
astral haven
i thought 5 was this year
this year as in 2023 yes
summer (when im getting el new phone) is next year
and s23u and xiaomi 13 ultra as well as x 1 5 are the current devices
empty wren
Anything special with the Xiaomi one?
astral haven
huge lens and a huge sensor for main as well as matching sensors on all of the extra lenses
fair gull
i dont think we will see a 1 6 in 2024
empty wren
Half inch sensor?
fair gull
at least if they scrap xperia
astral haven
1 inch sensor main
empty wren
Ah okay that is I meant
astral haven
alot of the "1 inch"ers are 1/1.3 inch
empty wren
I think mkbhd also did a video about what it means as well
astral haven
sony's 1 inch sensor is fkn 1/1.5 inch
the other thing special about xiaomi is they have a variable aperture
and it isnt just 1 or the other setting, you can set it to values in the middle
empty wren
Now that is cool, Samsung should have never ditched it
empty wren
They had a mechanical opening mechanism for 2 yeah
astral haven
and it wasnt even a bright enough aperture to matter
fair gull
their mechanical aperture sucks... mine makes noise when i slightly shake my phone
astral haven
you sure its the aperture?
empty wren
Expensive phone with beads inside
astral haven
you sure its not the OIS?
fair gull
well the only thing that sounds similar is when i start the phone/open the camera app and the aperture gets initilized
it sounds like a loose tictac
astral haven
again thats the ois
its harder to notice on modern phones but the iphone 6-se all rattle pretty hard, as did my s8
fair gull
huh i thought that be the loudest back and forth (looking at the screen)
its the loudest when doing basically perpendicular movements to the lense
like sliding it on a desk
astral haven
yikes
fair gull
its super super slight
and the biggest issue it caused is the backpanel lifting ever so slightly on 1 corner
tbf made it easy to replace the battery lol
astral haven
empty wren
Another good brand
Wow that is a huge ring one/third of the back is just it
Mmm 5400mah battery
astral haven
yep
wasnt super interested in this unit since i want a 135mm or more but its pretty sweet
empty wren
Sounds like a decent device
Dimensity chip should have better efficiency than snapdragon hmm might next year have to import one of mediatek chip devices
empty wren
I mean with a good cooling solution it was on some phones
Then again though not sure if dimensity has a similar snapdragon cycle where every so often a chip will overheat or just not be good for battery during a generation
810 was bad
Really bad in fact
astral haven
the 9300 is actually the same layout as 8g3 but it replaces some E cores with more P cores
astral haven
its still incredibly fast, and while the battery life isnt insane, im ok with buying a larger battery
empty wren
Right right
I wish more phones had huge batteries in the states
Not budget ones, in fact budget seems to receive what a lot of people want
Headphone jack
Battery
Now even decent displays
astral haven
camera, battery, hp jack
pick 2
empty wren
Okay lol yeah camera is tricky at that level
You go pixel a for that
Or just use a modified Google camera app with it's processing
astral haven
pixel removed it
astral haven
and gcam is crap on crap phones
empty wren
Hmm never heard of that before but good to know
astral haven
garbage in garbage out
empty wren
I believe it
The processing is nice but can only do so much with hardware and google in time realized that
astral haven
the p8p has absolutely wonderful hardware
empty wren
Yup
astral haven
5x camera is technically better than the samsung 10x, and far better than the samsung 3x
empty wren
Thermal sensor may be a gimmick but I kinda like the idea
empty wren
5x camera is technically better than the samsung 10x, and far better than the sa...
Whoa what
That has the software related then
astral haven
no i mean the hardware
empty wren
Hmm
wheat plume
Remember when Samsung phones has heart rate sensors on the back?
wheat plume
my friend used to have a phone with that and never knew about it LOL
astral haven
5x 50 megapixel = 10x 12.5 megapixel
and samsungs 10x is 10 megapixels
empty wren
no i mean the hardware
Is the lens better quality?
wheat plume
when I asked if shes ever used it before, she didnt even know that was a thing
empty wren
when I asked if shes ever used it before, she didnt even know that was a thing
Someone I knew used it for a science project.
astral haven
samsung has an insane number of features that arent available anywhere else
and they are often incredibly hidden
wheat plume
Someone I knew used it for a science project.
oo neat!
empty wren
and they are often incredibly hidden
Search bar to the rescue
wheat plume
samsung has an insane number of features that arent available anywhere else
I just wish Good Lock wasnt limited to their flagships and only like 4 regions
wheat plume
good lock is amazing
empty wren
I just wish Good Lock wasnt limited to their flagships and only like 4 regions
What dat
wheat plume
its an app from the galaxy store made by samsung that give you basically unlimited software customisation
typically shit you can only get on custom roms
like change the recents screen, status bar, font, icons, volume slider design etc etc
astral haven
i learned yesterday that that team literally hired from the romming community
wheat plume
Sounds about right
empty wren
Wow that is something
astral haven
the dev of cyanogenmod used to work there prior to trying to start their own company
wheat plume
TBH, Good Lock is the only reason id consider a Samsung phone
astral haven
samsung has the least compromised hardware usually
empty wren
like change the recents screen, status bar, font, icons, volume slider design et...
Some of that does sound familiar supposedly substratum themes can work with Samsung devices as is no root
wheat plume
yeah, but I hate the way their UI looks
I agree, the hardware is great
Especially those fucking ugly old Android 4 style status bar icons
so bad
🤢
empty wren
Especially those fucking ugly old Android 4 style status bar icons
So use good lock
empty wren
Hmm maybe a theme can
astral haven
Especially those fucking ugly old Android 4 style status bar icons
they are like 5 pixels across lmao
steep creek
I like dex that’s one of the reasons I’d get a Samsung phone
wheat plume
they are like 5 pixels across lmao
they ugly AF though
astral haven
????
astral haven
and theyve been changed twice since
wheat plume
yeh but still ugly
they legit look like Android 4 icons
🤔 oh my
I hope every other brand does pixel shifting
empty wren
I have never seen my icons move
empty wren
And unless you use high brightness all the time
Probably not gonna do much
Guy at work has burned in bar.on his Samsung
White mode
And highly bright
wheat plume
I notice the position of elements on the AOD tend to shift around slightly after a while
empty wren
Yeah that has always been the case
wheat plume
And unless you use high brightness all the time
my uncle got permanennt burn in of his phones home screen after less than a year because he NEVER LOCKS HIS PHONE
he just flips the cover over the display
empty wren
Lol wow
wheat plume
AND
it gets worse
hes complaining about how ANdroid phones are garbage cause this happened so soon
cause this is his first Android phone
he doesnt even lock his phone, always mega bright brightness level too
zenith silo
pretty much every person above 40 with an iphone ive known does that
zenith silo
i remember i changed my password on one of my iphones before
forgot it within 5m and literally lost everything
had to get the phone reset
wheat plume
...oh
zenith silo
worst part was we had to pay to get it reset
such a love hate relationship with the iphone 4 lol
wheat plume
new discord update on desktop made text size smaller by default 🤔
I wonder will the Steam Deck OLED do pixel shifting?!
stuck surge
🤔 oh my
idk my one plus 6 is like 5 years old
and i dont see any burn in
maybe the newer phones burn in easier because they have 2000 nits or smt like that
astral haven
it highly depends on how much you use it
and you also may not look at anything where the burn in shows up
stuck surge
I want to buy qd oled monitor when they come out but i need to make sure that i can get burn in warranty in europe
astral haven
because very oled screen will burn in, it is just you might not notice or care about the amount it does
wheat plume
I broke discord
This blue thing is just here now
Forever....
Even rebooted the app and it's still there
Python is odd
Wtf....
Why would you do it this way?!
steep creek
What a strange way to do it lol
My professor never showed us this method and i don’t mind
ashen spindle
judge now needs to decide on a verdict, then google will appeal it but who knows, maybe we get something good
maybe it even rolls up epic vs apple again
whole tiger
Can anyone recommend me a good audio interface for gaming/streaming. (budget 250$)
astral haven
use built in or get a cx31993 and save up for a serious device later
although the audient evo 4 is pretty solid apparently
golden turret
anyone know of a better Macro software that works with wooting
golden turret
Can anyone recommend me a good audio interface for gaming/streaming. (budget 250...
i use a steinberg ur22c
astral haven
all i can definetly say is do not get a scarlett 2i2
whole tiger
How much would you say i need to spend to get something good?
astral haven
ultralites are good from motu
i prefer the avb versions for that sweet sweet phone control
i think the evo4 is the cheapest with a nice balanced output
rough osprey
i want the new discord layout :(
astral haven
but yea linux is important since its often cheaper to use a raspberry pi with some usb devices than to get a real audio interface
Mixer not interface
Regret
fine for speakers, but it has vastly too much noise for being fun to use with headphones
and that was balanced!!!
now this is what i use
thanks motu
allows me to have all of my audio to be mixed together from different devices
latent mural
All that to listen to Kanye west
wheat plume
https://www.theverge.com/23994174/epic-google-trial-jury-verdict-monopoly-google...
How THE FUCK is the Play Store a monopoly??????
You can literally download APK from ANYWHERE YOU LIKE
astral haven
monopoly doesnt have to not have alternatives
ashen spindle
They decided Google has an illegal tie between its Google Play app store and its Google Play Billing payment services, too, and that its distribution agreement, Project Hug deals with game developers and deals with OEMs were all anticompetitive.
wheat plume
O.o
ashen spindle
Monopoly doesn’t mean you literally have 100% control over every aspect
wheat plume
Yeah
Not 100%
I think it's above 50%
astral haven
but its also not that simple
ashen spindle
Yup it’s not like you can clearly define it or people find ways around it very fast
astral haven
30% can be a monopoly if the other players are drastically smaller (like single digits)
ashen spindle
Also this is a good outcome
astral haven
^
ashen spindle
Regardless of what you think of epic
wheat plume
How so
astral haven
well this is a good ruling, its not really an "outcome" yet
ashen spindle
Well yeah but any outcome most likely will be better for consumers
astral haven
yep 😀
ashen spindle
Take epic out of the equation and look at them just as any other dev on the platform
if google ends up cutting the store cut it's good for everyone
if you can use a lower cut billing service thats good for everyone
there isn't really anything that can happen that wouldn't be some sort of consumer victory
astral haven
well lets be clear, nothing is still a possible outcome
ashen spindle
sure but no judge is going to take a clear verdict and just do nothing with it
astral haven
yes and no
the judge may make a ruling, but that ruling could have a loophole or give google an idea for something even worse to do
ashen spindle
which then leads to that being able to be fought again instead of being closed of
astral haven
yep but that could be actually 20 years off
see amd v intel
even tho this was a headline back in 2009https://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/technology/companies/13chip.html
this literally wasnt true
intel managed to delay this ruling until literally this year
ashen spindle
Hey even if it only come to change things in some years it’s still a win for consumers though I don’t see it take that long even with appeal
astral haven
also good job apple for not making there to be any way to preview the 3d video for the vision pro
lytro allowed you to slightly shift perspective 10 years ago...
hazy phoenix
anyone know if connecting my wooting keyboard to a usb hub would add latency and if so how much?
rough osprey
the whole beeper thing is kinda interesting
ashen spindle
Remember when AMD and Intel got sued for price fixing together? Hardly enemies
Wasn’t that amd and Nvidia?
umbral heron
Yeah https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-amd-ati-graphics,6311.html
While AMD was fumbling around with Bulldozer, Intel just used the opportunity, and they kept CPU prices high, and kept their mid and high-range CPUs on 4 cores 
Ryzen release just showed everybody how Intel grew comfortable to little to no competition on CPU market
old marlin
reef patrol
umbral heron
Skill issue
But doesn't W7 makes use even up to 32 cores?
fair gull
that is the limit of win7
it can only do 32 logical cores
with home editions only doing 1 physical socket while pro and up do 2
win10 also has similar limits with home having 1 physical/64logical, pro and up being 2 physical and 128 logical
i think enterprise dopuble the logical and pro for work station double both compared to pro
ashen spindle
Wide doesn’t usually refer to core count
old marlin
yea
solemn remnant
speaking of cyberdink, just restarted the thing a couple of days ago. got it 3 years ago, played for 10-20 hours and hated 95% of it, and stopped playing until now
it's a good game now, good for them
analog sinew
wonder what igor was smoking again
old marlin
wonder what igor was smoking again
igor flow 3
raw zephyr
i always buy the arctic p12, great fans
i recently got the p12 max, 5 of them for around 30€, they were in some pack
wheat plume
vagrant pagoda
win10 also has similar limits with home having 1 physical/64logical, pro and up ...
Nope
All editions of Windows 10 have the same CPU limit
For cores
They just added socket limits
Home is one socket, pro is 2 and, enterprise+pro for workstations is 4
They all support something like 1280 cores
But have the old windows limit of 64 cores per node
The colonel limit has always been 32 32 bit cores the colonel limit has always been 3,232 big cores and 64 64 bit cores
Wtf did you do google
Kernel limit has been 32, 32 bit cores and 64, 64bit cores per numa
You can go over it, but you will get bugs
That's why most boards that support more than 32 cores will have a compatibility mode to split it into 32 core groups
Because someone somewhere is going to run 96 cores with a 32-bit windows server
fair gull
Nope
pretty sure thats what i read in some win32 doc about numa nodes and processor groups
fickle ore
vagrant pagoda
pretty sure thats what i read in some win32 doc about numa nodes and processor g...
You can have 1024 logical with 1 physical as long as it's 20 numa nodes on windows home
Only 128gb of ram though XD
To use over 1024 logical you have to use server
smoky frigate
Yeah https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-amd-ati-graphics,6311.html
While A...
man I'm glad my first instinct is looking at the date of a linked article, I was almost exhilerated
severe phoenix
Haha
I mean who is to say they still aren't, we just haven't found out yet
I mean their CEOs are related
ashen spindle
Wouldn’t be worth it for either one anymore
cursive summit
ashen spindle
probably tech but video lacks some content
neither explanatino of what happens nor really that much relevant numbers when testing the amd sample
umbral heron
Holy shite, 8GB demo 
wheat plume
the Kernel of the Beast :')
smoky frigate
it got the wifi fix FROM HELL
wheat plume
LOL
umbral heron
umbral heron
I'm too lazy to play with kernels nowadays after dealing with Linux 8h everyday at work
My ThinkPad holds 9h on battery, plenty enough for me
smoky frigate
liquorix is zen for ubuntu/debian
wheat plume
im lazy too, but archinstall has the option to use zen
wheat plume
liquorix is zen for ubuntu/debian
yeh :D
smoky frigate
on arch, I used the cachyos kernel with link time optimizations, which was based as fuck
wheat plume
o?
Would that be better for battery life?
(not that I know how to install it cause I dont)
umbral heron
Oh, it has its own repos, that's pretty cool
smoky frigate
Would that be better for battery life?
possibly, since anything you do with it has reduced CPU time... though I used it for performance reasons only
wheat plume
They have their own Firefox fork too, hmm
smoky frigate
I wouldn't recommend installing the full OS, but their repo is compatible with arch and rocks imo
wheat plume
I have the ArcoLinux repos enabled cause they have packaged a lot of common software youd otherwise need the AUR for
smoky frigate
there is also the chaotic-aur repo, does the same thing. much prefer it over updating AUR directly, due to dependency spaghetti
wheat plume
yeah, I may enable that one but ive got all the stuff I need already installed rn
smoky frigate
but who knows, I'm using ubuntu at the moment and I'm quite happy with not tinkering about. I'm actually waiting for an update to my favorite distro, Pop OS. in the meantime, I'm hopping around
wheat plume
Pop is real nice :D
I legit cant wait for COSMIC desktop to drop
it looks amazing so far 😍
smoky frigate
I'm holding my breath for it. I like gnome a lot, so it'll have to tide me over
wheat plume
Gnome is on par with my fav desktop other than Plasma
Plasma has features I want in Gnome
Gnome has features I want in Plasma
the virtual desktops in Gnome are the best, the Overview too
smoky frigate
the super key behavior in gnome is highly addicting and efficient, wish plasma had it by default 😛
wheat plume
but the notifications in plasma are functionally way better despite how ugly they can look
wheat plume
I wish Gnome has the progress indictor notification that Plasma does for file transfers and downloading on browsers
wheat plume
and taking a screenshot lets you share or edit from the notifications
smoky frigate
Plasma has some really neat stuff. gnome in general is more inflexible and crap by default, but ubuntu wrangles it to excellency imo
smoky frigate
<3 best features
yeah for pure functionality you can't beat plasma
wheat plume
looks ugly tho
umbral heron
I want to try out Fedora, seems nice
But I will never touch Ubuntu again, the shit I had to endure with oibaf-ppa to make both of my graphics work in my old laptop was astounding
Meanwhile on Arch - install amdgpu and vulkan stuff... ok, you're good to go 
wheat plume
Yeah, I aint using Ubuntu anymore either
rough osprey
wheat plume
Though I will try out PopOS once COSMIC has its stable build
and then probably use COSMIC on Arch if thats possible eventually
ashen spindle
yeah metal fan seems like it's not doing much really
think it might just be igors testing being accurate but that not translating and mostly focusing on higher rpm
wheat plume
The problem with a desktop being built for a specific distro means it may not work in other distros
Pantheon (Elementary OS' desktop) does not work on other distros without something going wrong
So im worried that COSMIC will be the same ;-;
smoky frigate
I think cosmic is mostly built on top of gnome, right? if it's good, somebody will package it
iirc more than half of all gnome code is in mutter, the window manager. kinda crazy to think about
wheat plume
Probably gonna be added to the ArchLinux Tweak Tool anyway
Cutefish was added to that and Cutefish is not even stable yet
smoky frigate
oh cool, a tool that can switch your desktop. neat. I fucked up more than one installation by trying different desktops, and them being broken by the mere presence of others
it's also very possible that I installed them haphazardly. when an arch installation reaches the end of its natural life for me, I usually see how I can break it by installing bullshit into it
wheat plume
it is possible to have kde plasma automatically switch to a different keyboard layout on my laptop when I connect a usb keyboard?
aha, I think I did it, but it wont switch automatically
wheat plume
Why does Discord sometimes show the menubar ?
cant remove it without restarting the app ;-;
empty wren
ashen spindle
havent seen anyone else take alook yet
not if the press sample makes it look bad then lol
latent mural
Hello maybe someone can help me here? I have several short GIFs, that i wanna put together to make one GIF is that possible? If so, how?
umbral heron
latent mural
https://ezgif.com/combine
tyvm but that doesnt work as i meant to 😬
may i explain what i mean maybe u have an idea
smoky frigate
https://ezgif.com/combine
very usefuol tool thanks
latent mural
https://robogreaser.tumblr.com/post/135525788879/kane52630-track-7-rinzler-tron-legacy
Those are some very clear images of my current GIF Avatar. Unfortunately i cant find it in one piece on google. so i wonder how i can make those 5 into one playing gif
steep creek
Doesn’t happen on any of my clients
umbral heron
No, I used imagemagick
umbral heron
Only one command, just as V said higher up here
But I had to convert to gif because of course fcking WebPs why do you exist?!
But I can make it quite smoother if you want
smoky frigate
webp is just pure shit
vagrant pagoda
Only one command, just as V said higher up here
But I had to convert to gif beca...
Webp is free
umbral heron
So is many other graphic formats
vagrant pagoda
Like
umbral heron
PNG for that matter
smoky frigate
jfif, webp, heif, avif, all barely fucking more useful than jpeg
and then chrome drops support for the only good format to replace it, jpeg-xl
fuck them
vagrant pagoda
PNG for that matter
Png has shit compression because it's lossless
vagrant pagoda
jfif, webp, heif, avif, all barely fucking more useful than jpeg
Jpeg isn't free
Jpeg costs a ton for big companies
smoky frigate
Jpeg costs a ton for big companies
even then JPEG-XL is the answer, it is royalty-free and existing jpegs can be converted to it with no quality loss
all those other standards can suck my beeboggle
vagrant pagoda
Google likes vp8
smoky frigate
wasn't it originally derived from the mpeg-2 standard actually?
vagrant pagoda
Webp was made to support vp8 type compression
smoky frigate
wasn't it originally derived from the mpeg-2 standard actually?
ah, nope, I'm talking out of my ass
smoky frigate
Webp was made to support vp8 type compression
yeah, lots of modern image codecs work as a single frame from a video codec. I personally never liked webp as a user, but I like the webm format. VP9 is fantastic at ultra-low bitrates
I made it a hobby of mine to squeeze long videos into 8 megabytes
vagrant pagoda
Webp dosent support vp8 dose it?
smoky frigate
naw, vp9 only I think
umbral heron
i would pay you for that
Should be better now, I optimized gif palette and resized it, Discord doesn't like big gifs
smoky frigate
I bought this film on DVD to produce a high quality webm of it for discord
umbral heron
WTF 
smoky frigate
60fps edition, hand-tuned deinterlace
wheat plume
WTF
shadow minnow
Hmm interesting looks like in terms of noise it’s actually better than the db say but still temps are disappointing
halcyon moss
even then JPEG-XL is the answer, it is royalty-free and existing jpegs can be co...
Heic is what phones moved to
digital cliff
it is possible to have kde plasma automatically switch to a different keyboard l...
you could just make an udev rule that runs a script that does that for you
wheat plume
oo...idk shit about udev other than the shit I copied to setup the Wootility
digital cliff
basically
if (usb keyboard == plugged in){ do script }
I guess you could figure it out in a few hours if you looked up how to write udev rules
I'm not good at this stuff so it would take me much longer
wheat plume
yeah I may do later
digital cliff
copying the principle of how the wooting devices are matched would serve as a starting point
then you just need to figure out how to make it run a script
and the script itself would just be one command so not too hard I guess
and of course include in the rule an unplug thing as well that returns your shit like it was when you unplug
vagrant pagoda
https://youtu.be/uE6mHiBO4dc?si=qHQeF4t0LKWzQxCw
Watch the one I posted
It's not a good showing
shadow minnow
Saw that one too
wheat plume
all hail konsave 💜
saves your plasma settings so you can restore them at any time
I have default layout set as basic_layout and my own changes as plasma_rice_1 xd
wheat plume
yeh..they are targetting Firefox in general also
ashen spindle
not really and not the focus of that
crisp granite
pretty happy with my iFixit drivers
wheat plume
how do I rearrange the krunner search results?! I dont wanna scroll through all the files to get to the settings
DeepinOS time
smoky frigate
linglong ding dong indeed
raw zephyr
PointlessOS
ashen spindle
https://www.servethehome.com/next-gen-broadcom-pcie-switches-to-support-amd-infinity-fabric-xgmi-to-counter-nvidia-nvlink/ oh wow when they announced IF is being licensed out I didnt think we see it planed into some products already
reef patrol
Bing chilling?
woven laurel
Bing chilling?
andrea?
wheat plume
idk what that is other than the .linglong folder in the home directory contains folders for some of their custom apps
analog sinew
i haven't been in the oled game, how big of a problem is burnin these days
umbral heron
A non-issue for usual use
ashen spindle
if you play 8 hours a day of only one game the ui will get some after some time
but even that will take a long while on modern panels
steep creek
im sorta worried about that too because when studying and programming, the same static program is open
pretty much all day
ashen spindle
it's doable I just would say for working with text get something else, higher refresh rate at 4k is much nicer for scrolling visual studio
steep creek
yeah i think so too. i have a single ips monitor for now, might get another one soon
high refresh rate for sure
wheat plume
Still scary how many desktop users are still on Windows 7....that shit aint secure anymore
Maybe if you somehow manage to get the business support but idk how
smoky frigate
having used windows 2000 until 2014, I understand the sentiment
wheat plume
o.o
People are getting pissed off that Steam is ending support for Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
like bruh
smoky frigate
cann you still upgrade to a newer version free of charge? what does it upgrade to now, still 10?
wheat plume
I get it if you have an old machine that cant run 10 and 11...but swap to Linux in that case and youll have security pathes and up to date software
umbral heron
cann you still upgrade to a newer version free of charge? what does it upgrade t...
Yeah, even up to 11
analog sinew
if you play 8 hours a day of only one game the ui will get some after some time
that still sounds like a hassle tbh.
wheat plume
LOL
smoky frigate
windows 10 has been successfully booted from actual 486 DX machines, what is xe talking about
umbral heron
SteamCMD will work on Win 7? If so it wouldn't be too hard to create a simple GUI for it as a Steam replacement
steep creek
the other day i got upgraded to windows 11 pro for free lol, dont think they care too much
wheat plume
SteamCMD will work on Win 7? If so it wouldn't be too hard to create a simple GU...
it does?
umbral heron
MS now just wants Windows out there, on as many PCs as possible
There's a reason why licence terms allow for infinitely long "evaluation period"
umbral heron
And it's only because CEF ends support on older Windows
Should Valve not use CEF in Steam they'd probably support it for even longer
wheat plume
:') they wanna sue Valve over this
mild dome
More Win11 users then I expected
steep creek
kudos for still supporting a combined 0.95 (!!) % valve
lol isnt that about the same market share as masOS
no apple silicon steam in sight 😂
wheat plume
Yeah, they aint supporting that shit
mild dome
In my company we still havn't transitioned to Win11
It's still a completely optional upgrade no one installs on purpose
ashen spindle
anyone who runs 12/13/14th gen intel cpus should run win11 and not 10
so that % makes total sense
smoky frigate
no apple silicon steam in sight 😂
good, fuck tim cuck and fapple LOL
wheat plume
anyone who runs 12/13/14th gen intel cpus should run win11 and not 10
huh?
steep creek
yep
wheat plume
Better multi-threading?
mild dome
That thing!
analog sinew
i still havent upgraded to 11
ashen spindle
intels big.Shittle arch needs win11 or you have performance left
wheat plume
oh
analog sinew
and that talk of win 12... might skip 11 altogether like i did 8
wheat plume
if you wanna benefit from the marketing of Windows 7 in 2023, you cannot discontinue it in the same year
LOL
mild dome
I should probably make that argument to the dudes in charge of our imaging system
smoky frigate
and that talk of win 12... might skip 11 altogether like i did 8
last I heard win11 is such a titanic piece of shit, it lost ms customers. but you know, people talk smack all the time
analog sinew
i only read that amd cpu issue at launch, so that was not good
also i saw that shitty centered apple taskbar
blergh
steep creek
ive been on windows 11 for close to a year now, great experience so far
wheat plume
last I heard win11 is such a titanic piece of shit, it lost ms customers. but yo...
its lacking customisablity that Windows 10 had but there is also some upsides to it in other areas
umbral heron
Never used Windows 11, great experience so far
wheat plume
still gets me pissed off that YOU CANT MOVE THE FUCKING TASKBAR
smoky frigate
do steam decks factor into this survey? if so, I expected the share to be much higher tbh
wheat plume
you can do that shit since Windows xp
umbral heron
do steam decks factor into this survey? if so, I expected the share to be much h...
Yeah, they account for some 40% of this
analog sinew
do steam decks factor into this survey? if so, I expected the share to be much h...
when was that data collected?
umbral heron
November this year
smoky frigate
still gets me pissed off that YOU CANT MOVE THE FUCKING TASKBAR
wot??? that's backwards as hell. I remember being able to do it in windows ME
old marlin
I assume they just moved the option in olaces where power users could reach them
wheat plume
NOPE
old marlin
Instead of giving people the power to accidentally change it
The way it was implemented was really bad
wheat plume
if you try a registry edit, it moves the bar, but all the popups stays at the bottom
so yeah
analog sinew
kek
wheat plume
you click on the system tray and it opens on the bottom
same for search and start menu
I hope this is a troll comment xd
old marlin
How is it a troll comment
umbral heron
I mean... Steam discussion forums are not... the best quality content place...
analog sinew
class action lawsuit is the cheat code of the universe apparently
old marlin
Win 7 is almost 15 years old now
wheat plume
How is it a troll comment
I doubt Steam works on Windows 95 LOL
analog sinew
Win 7 is almost 15 years old now
damn im old
old marlin
And it has been eol for almost 4
stuck surge
Steam probably uses something from windows 8+ api and it will just stop working eventually
wheat plume
GG Valve for supporting an OS on EoL for 4 years
analog sinew
with the vomit green client
umbral heron
Steam probably uses something from windows 8+ api and it will just stop working ...
Steam doesn't use Windows API, it uses embedded Chromium which ends support for Windows 7/8 in the next year, so Valve does that too
old marlin
So xp was even bigger than 7
umbral heron
I still use XP
steep creek
lol
smoky frigate
had to move from 2000 to 7 in 2k14 because AMD would not ship a working driver for my card. I should have totally sued them obv
analog sinew
damn his 20 years of "it" tell him they programmed it with code
valve shaking in their boots right now
wheat plume
smoky frigate
you can probably get away playing DX12 games on windows 7 nowadays if you got a vkd3d-proton compiled dll for windows, translating dx12 to vulkan
wheat plume
VAlVe goT PAid bY MIcrOSofT To End SUppOrt For 7
umbral heron
you can probably get away playing DX12 games on windows 7 nowadays if you got a ...
Most games do work on Win7 via VKD3D, not all, but 98% does
smoky frigate
Most games do work on Win7 via VKD3D, not all, but 98% does
hahahaaa based as all getup
wheat plume
ah yes.....
cause Linux is totally an EoL OS
/S
stuck surge
Using old windows is a security risk anyway and new windows is much more mature now
wheat plume
HAH
reef patrol
That's great. Doesn't make my retro gaming PC any less relevant.
And it still needs Steam 😄
smoky frigate
win10 has ads!
steady tartan
win10 has ads!
where?
reef patrol
Just give me a version of Steam that literally only lets me download games. No community.
steep creek
never seen them either
wheat plume
Just give me a version of Steam that literally only lets me download games. No c...
SteamCLI
reef patrol
Win10 has had plenty of intrusive popups and "PLEASE FINALIZE CONFIGURATION OF THIS SHIT WE JUST ADDED" wizards with several updates.
wheat plume
its in home version?
yeh
umbral heron
Just give me a version of Steam that literally only lets me download games. No c...
SteamCMD does that, https://github.com/DioJoestar/SteamCMD-GUI
smoky frigate
i have win10 pro and never seen a single ad in my system
I dunno tbqh. I only ever heard of it having them. always went directly for the un-fucked enterprise LTSC version
analog sinew
No no. VALVE needs to make an maintain this.
valve needs to clean my gaming room
steep creek
Win10 has had plenty of intrusive popups and "PLEASE FINALIZE CONFIGURATION OF T...
Ah yeah i get them sometimes but less now compared to before, at least on my computers
reef patrol
Let's not go crazy.
analog sinew
cause i play games i bought on steam in it
reef patrol
I paid for the licenses, I should be able to download them from the service.
steady tartan
I dunno tbqh. I only ever heard of it having them. always went directly for the ...
i heard enterprise version is void of microsoft dogshit? like you can completely disable updates and all of telemetry>
?
smoky frigate
telemetry you can disable in all versions, with some registry settings. but the LTSC enterprise version comes without support for UWP apps (based) and less low IQ shit
steady tartan
like on any other edition
you cant disable updates on home version? only postpone it?
you can disable it in pro
umbral heron
you cant disable updates on home version? only postpone it?
You can with group editor, you just have to get an .msc from Pro version, it works on Home edition too
smoky frigate
there will probably be an equivalent edition for 11, or later windows if they decide to can it early. when using newer versions of windows, LTSC is the way to go imo. it's the natural progression from win7
analog sinew
how to disable win update: unplug lan cable
wheat plume
not on Win 11, you require internet to even get to the desktop on first boot .-.
unless you have the business version
steep creek
I installed windows 11 with no internet connection iirc
wheat plume
you have Pro?
steady tartan
not on Win 11, you require internet to even get to the desktop on first boot .-.
you cant plug out ethernet cable and just push through like in win10?
reef patrol
You can with pro?
steep creek
you have Pro?
Now yes, not back then
wheat plume
How are these people not threatening to sue Microsoft for ending support for Windows 7 4 years ago but as soon as Valve drops Steam support for it, they get all butthurt and trigger happy?
steep creek
During windows 11 setup If you just type no@thanks.com & nothanks for email and password it’ll give an error and let you create an offline account
That’s what I did lol
steady tartan
LMFAO
wheat plume
🤔
smoky frigate
you must understand that gaming is far more serious than anything els
steep creek
Yes
wheat plume
LOL
If buying is not owning, then piracy is not stealing
This is a statement I can get behind
fair gull
guys
i think i can give you all infos on a new processor node intel is researching
CRABnm
reef patrol
wheat plume
reef patrol
Kidding of course. The main market was contractors and the well to do I guess.
vagrant pagoda
It's the dealers
They don't know shit about them
And can do shit to diagnose them
You get a appointment with a remote tech to see if they can tell
I mean it's warranty
But between that lack of knowledge of the product and dealer markup, it kills the demand
Plus the hybrid is good
Like the hybrid has options the lightning LACKS
How is the lightning not available in top trim
vagrant pagoda
No HUD, and one gen old for the highest end infrotanimet
severe phoenix
exotic quiver
If you have any clue with cpus pls dm me
raw zephyr
If you have any clue with cpus pls dm me
just ask here :)
raw zephyr
7800x3d
umbral heron
What CPU do you have now?
umbral heron
Ah, so with BIOS update it should handle 5800X3D
digital cliff
5800x3d in that case
reef patrol
Be sure to do the bios update BEFORE swapping CPUs 😄
exotic quiver
So I have to buy the 5800x3d
exotic quiver
What do I have to do for the 7800x3d ?
digital cliff
steal a mobo as well
and memory at that point
and maybe a cpu cooler depending on your luck/unluck
exotic quiver
Where can I see the name of the cpu cooler
umbral heron
If you haven't got any new one you probably have OEM box one
old marlin
if you say it like that you probably will need a new one
since you wouldn't have the mounting kits for it anyways
umbral heron
Basically 5800X3D uses AM4 board, same as your current 3600 does
7800X3D needs AM5 board, so you'd have to swap half of your PC too
exotic quiver
Ok I’ll take the 5800
umbral heron
Yeah, 3600 hardly chokes on anything still, mine 3600X only gives up on CP2077 in some areas, but other than that it chugs along nicely
exotic quiver
are you sure the cpu is the issue atm
Want to know all my pc parts
umbral heron
Want to know all my pc parts
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ will tell you everything
exotic quiver
My main games are valorant and Fortnite
For valo my pc is okay but for fn my fps are trash
umbral heron
Hm... Fortnite is not CPU heavy to be honest, more GPU heavy I'd say
exotic quiver
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ will tell you everything
I looked up some of the things i have in my pc
Wait a sec
exotic quiver
Hm... Fortnite is not CPU heavy to be honest, more GPU heavy I'd say
I asked some other people they said it’s a cpu based game 🤷🏽
digital cliff
just list your specs and people can see the entire picture
reef patrol
First of the blue options
umbral heron
1660 Super should have no issues on 1080p tbh 
old marlin
did you ever look at usage while gaming?
if your GPU is pinned at 99% in intense scenarios then upgradingyour CPU won't do anything
exotic quiver
i looked i up in taskmamager but i dont remember the numbers
umbral heron
Yeah, task manager is not ideal for such uses
Install MSI Afterburner, it'll provide hardware monitoring and it installs with RTSS, which provides in-game overlay showing you CPU util, GPU util, RAM usage etc.
reef patrol
It's 2133mhz
raw zephyr
isn't that jedec spec?
umbral heron
They are 2666 CL16 on XMP still
reef patrol
Not super fast for DDR4 for sure.
exotic quiver
ill go in a game rq i take a screenshot from my taskmanager wait a sec pls
i have 80 to 200 fpd
my cpu has 70 to 90 %
Is there a program with which I can have my statistics read out?
Maybe you can find a problem there
umbral heron
Yeah, I told you several messages earlier #🔌│tech message
umbral heron
This one will tell you what specs you have, and HW Monitor would tell you about CPU, GPU and power usage, I guess you could use that
But if you want to measure game performance, Afterburner+RTSS is a standard suite for this
exotic quiver
can i call oyu rq im soo fckn lost with these things
fair gull
lets all be real. the best way to have stable fps in fortnite is to uninstall it and play a good game
crimson wigeon
True
umbral heron
can i call oyu rq im soo fckn lost with these things
https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards
This one here, it's standard installation, it'll ask you if you want to install RivaTuner, so install it too
It should be configured by default to show you CPU, GPU and RAM usage
stone thicket
If we speaking about fortnite performance, ik 1660 super is pretty ok-ish gpu for fhd, but from my experience, I've had 1650 and It barely run 100 fps, upgraded to 4070 and now it doesn't have any problems running
fair gull
https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards
This one here, it's stand...
as a german the name afterburner is quite funny
exotic quiver
so i have to buy a new graphics card
exotic quiver
as a german the name afterburner is quite funny
true
stone thicket
so i have to buy a new graphics card
unfortunately
fair gull
if i go to tacobell i can also get afterburner
exotic quiver
unfortunately
and my cpu ?
stone thicket
Again - IDK what the difference in performance is between 1660cpu and 1650
stone thicket
and my cpu ?
not really, but would be nice
exotic quiver
not really, but would be nice
ok
stone thicket
can u tell me a good cpu and graphics card
Idk, depends on budget
13600k and 4070 is always a solid choice
exotic quiver
birthday is coming up and christmas as well
stone thicket
7800x3d and 4070ti/4080 is insane
exotic quiver
7800x3d and 4070ti/4080 is insane
ok ill look up[ the price wait a sec
umbral heron
Yeah, you should also see RTSS in your tray running in background
stone thicket
The thing is, 7800x3d is gaming-oriented more, where 13600k is a overall good cpu
stone thicket
the first combo will provide good gaming fps even at 1440p
stone thicket
but it will fit in my motherboard
well no
umbral heron
Nop, best you could do for your current mobo is 5800X3D
stone thicket
U have an AM* socket
exotic quiver
how much is a new motherboard
stone thicket
how much is a new motherboard
depends
umbral heron
Motherboard's features mostly
stone thicket
The features you want
stone thicket
Yea, like massage, coffee
exotic quiver
Okok I’ll take Bothe hahah
stone thicket
Idk man, I have B660 from gigabyte
no problems so far
I'm not a overclocking guy, so I'm pretty happy with it
stone thicket
I think 4070 would still be ok
umbral heron
Any, really
Some 6800~6900, 7800, 4070~4080, 3070~3080...
exotic quiver
I think I’ll take the 4070 if this is a good one
exotic quiver
Any, really
Some 6800~6900, 7800, 4070~4080, 3070~3080...
Is any one of these better ?
pale sigil
Is the 4070 still a horrendous value?
stone thicket
4080, if u rich
stone thicket
Is the 4070 still a horrendous value?
got mine recently, and happy
umbral heron
Is the 4070 still a horrendous value?
Yeah
stone thicket
Yep
umbral heron
I'd say 6800 if you don't care about RT and DLSS, 3080 if you do, pretty good value-to-performance ratio
stone thicket
Good luck
exotic quiver
Thank you bro
stone thicket
Well, you'll upgrade sooner other things, like RAM, SSD etc
exotic quiver
And thank you very much for your help
exotic quiver
Well, you'll upgrade sooner other things, like RAM, SSD etc
Ok
exotic quiver
Good to hear
umbral heron
€630 for 4070?! 7800XT is cheaper and more powerful WTF
exotic quiver
stone thicket
€630 for 4070?! 7800XT is cheaper and more powerful WTF
So is the power consumption, I think
exotic quiver
So I take these two?
umbral heron
exotic quiver
@umbral heron the two things you recommend will fit with my motherboard ?
reef patrol
stone thicket
So I take these two?
Idk man, not much into AMD stuff, I have 4070 and it's good
umbral heron
<@351793002278289410> the two things you recommend will fit with my motherboard ...
What about 3080 or 3080Ti?
umbral heron
I mean price
exotic quiver
They are cheaper ?
pale sigil
Professionals here?
umbral heron
I think so, I'm not sure
exotic quiver
Is the 7800 or 3080 better
reef patrol
I'm not paid enough to be called a professional 😄
exotic quiver
Compare to you guys are hahah
umbral heron
3080Ti > 7800 > 3080
Something like that