I used to love ZorinOS before they switched to Gnome desktop
#🔌│tech
wheat plume
Had compiz built in and I messed with the animations and effects for hours
Now ZorinOS is just another gnome Ubuntu based distro
fair gull
Now ZorinOS is just another debian based distro
fair gull
the same relation zorin and ubuntu have
almost like this shit happens all over the linux ecosystem
everyones just someone else in layers of coats
analog sinew
i understand more about nge lore than linux lore
wheat plume
There's still a difference between Ubuntu based and Debian based
Take Linux Mint for example
Mint and Mint Debian are different distro to each other
final flame
https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-linus-tech-tips-meme-linux-linus-sebastian-linus-gif-25622997
fair gull
There's still a difference between Ubuntu based and Debian based
Take Linux Mint...
that sounds like a ton of copium
final flame
this is giving me the same vibes of
Macos is linux because it's Unix based
fair gull
well yesnt i guess
its is heavily BSD based iirc
which is unix compliant
although then again they named their kernel XNU which means x not unix or so
but ye basically all are unix based
although theres a funnier image
almost looks like a graph of linux distros
(big graph of browsers)
analog sinew
shits more complex than the tree of life
fair gull
more high res
halcyon moss
Everything is webkit/blink besides firefox
halcyon moss
Open it in browser
final flame
crisp granite
so, my PSU includes a 12VHPWR cable that terminates in two of Corsair's micro connector "type 5 gen 1", don't know the wattage that cable can deliver through those two connectors, so I don't know what that cable can actually deliver
good times
I got a nice elegant little cable that might be able to power a 4090
or struggle to power a 4070
Corsair's site is nicely devoid of anything useful
final flame
it's the corsair promise
ashen spindle
micro connector?
ashen spindle
doesnt that just mean pcie5 compliant aka the 12pin ?
crisp granite
nah
ashen spindle
got a link to it
crisp granite
ashen spindle
all I can find is regular connectros
ashen spindle
oh so just regular psu in smaller
crisp granite
I don't know what those are meant to power because corsair site is shit
so I got a cable that terminates in two of those on one side, and a 12 plus 4 on the other
ashen spindle
if its regular 8 pins its 150w but can go higher
ashen spindle
I mean its all rated for 150w but nobody uses it that strict
also doesnt matter unless its a 4090 that you want to OC
wheat plume
wheat plume
Kabaddi?
crisp granite
also doesnt matter unless its a 4090 that you want to OC
I mean...I kinda would?
I don't want to be stuck with 100% power limits if I can help it
ashen spindle
why though
ocing it is pointless unless you got for benchmark imo
I have mine at 80% powerlimit lol
crisp granite
...fair enough
vagrant pagoda
Unless you like noise
vagrant pagoda
Stock coolers don't go far with OC
ashen spindle
and if you want to tinker undervolt + mem oc does this
<300W for stock performance
crisp granite
TL;DR
it should provide at least enough for 100% power limits, and I should tighten it down anyway
ashen spindle
yeah
vagrant pagoda
Throwing tons of power at it is only a Intel gimmick now
crisp granite
works for me
vagrant pagoda
Everything else is pushed hard stock
Well I guess Intel is too
They just need more thermal headroom
ashen spindle
here if anyone wants to laugh at intel https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-compares-amd-zen2-architecture-in-ryzen-7000-series-to-snake-oil
the slide deck is removed from intel now but still on VZ
halcyon moss
It's shitty marketing, but I have to agree it's pretty terrible meaning on amds part
ashen spindle
but this is pot kettle black
at least with mendo you have the 2 in the name for zen2
14th gen literally is 13th gen
lower segmend is literally 12th gen still
but doesnt have the name of it
14400 and such is just rebranded 12th gen
umbral heron
And that's coming from someone who kept their Core iX brand for years, so they could brand older CPUs as "latest technology"
ashen spindle
their slide deck means that for comparison they either disabled cores on amd or couldn't copy paste correctly
those are 8 cores
so at best they cant even make a slide correctly when talking about bad numbering
vagrant pagoda
Also
ashen spindle
time to convert MP3 to MIDI
final flame
> time to convert MP3 to MIDI
yea I was wondering how that worked
vagrant pagoda
7735 is zen 3 and 7840 is zen 4
final flame
they doin some magic
vagrant pagoda
Which is why the 7840 is a 800 vs the 7735 is a 700
ashen spindle
no the 3 is zen 3 the 4 is zen 4 lol
the 8/7 means just which segment
aka not very relevant
year/segment/uarch
vagrant pagoda
no the 3 is zen 3 the 4 is zen 4 lol
That's what I said
vagrant pagoda
Zen 4 gives it the performance boost to be a 800 vs the zen 3.being a 7000
ashen spindle
no that's not how its used
vagrant pagoda
Despite them having the same TDP and core count.
ashen spindle
its just a segment like Ryzen 3/5/7
umbral heron
7840, third number means which Zen it is
vagrant pagoda
Yes
vagrant pagoda
7735 is zen 3 and 7840 is zen 4
Y'all skipped this?
ashen spindle
no but the next part is wrong
vagrant pagoda
They are both 45w 8c16t
vagrant pagoda
The 7840 is in the 8 because it's faster
vagrant pagoda
Yes they are both ryzen 7s
The zen4 is faster and this is a higher market segment
thick elk
Honestly, marketing aside, I am glad AMD at least committed to having the architecture in the cpu name.
Given the desires of oems and marketing it may just be the best one can hope for.
ashen spindle
yes oems is why first number bigger each year
vagrant pagoda
And the 5 is the 7735 means it's at the upper end of the 700 segment
thick elk
They were selling ryzen 5xxx for quite some time as well, at least it differentiate new model old cpu from old model old cpu
umbral heron
So by that it means 3600 was released in... 2019?
Damn, my CPU is getting old 
crisp granite
...damn
ashen spindle
crisp granite
so glad I have a 7800X3D in my closet
and the only reason I haven't switched to it yet
is that I still don't have the means to put the stuff in my case
...yay
umbral heron
But it checks out
ashen spindle
does it actually line up lol
I guess with skipping 4 series to attempt to get numbers in check that did help that timetable
vagrant pagoda
There were 4000 mobile though lol
umbral heron
Yeah, but those were Zen 2 too
vagrant pagoda
Yeah it's still.crazy naming
ashen spindle
nah its 3 gens
I can see something like AM5+ for big apus if that plan sticks but zen6 shouldnt get ddr6 so platform stays
vagrant pagoda
I can see something like AM5+ for big apus if that plan sticks but zen6 shouldnt...
Or new FM socket
Gens is fine, as long as they stick to am6=ddr6
ashen spindle
zen6 will not have ddr6 and who knows what the desktop apu plans are that we will get by then, am6 will have the open bios opensil thing but that comes servers first so I dont see why they would rush that for that either
vagrant pagoda
Zen6 will likely still be am5
Amd said am5 though atleast 2025
And there is a leak for am5 still in 2026
And zen6 is roadmapped for 2025
ashen spindle
sure that too but it's more about them not using ddr6 and the changes for zen6 aren't going to change what pins they need
what companies say or leak doesnt mean much xD
vagrant pagoda
Zen6 big thing is just stacked on the iodie
Instead of interposer
Shouldn't change the pinout
ashen spindle
zen6 big thing back to monolithic for desktop
ashen spindle
any sources or patents for that
gusty kiln
back to mono? really?
vagrant pagoda
The leak slides say a monolithic levels of latency
Which would indicate that it is not a monolithic product
vagrant pagoda
Yeah
Stacked makes sense
Wonder if that means the io dye will finally shrink to the same as the core die
ashen spindle
stacked is what is out there for server products, desktop and server is going to diverge with 6 onwards
oh the stacking is from a mlid video
yeah no that seems to be what they do in server
crisp granite
pfffff
not bad
got one 30% off a while back though
currently 490 CAD
was 450 when I got it
on the 20th of last month woah time flies
crimson wigeon
THICC DRIVE
storm bone
i need help
what does it mean when it says this
SPEED RGB SILVER : 1.2 ± 0.4 MM
1.2 ± 0.4 MM
what is the plus and underscore for
?????????
storm bone
so the acctuation point could be anywhere from 1.2mm and 0.4
vagrant pagoda
so the acctuation point could be anywhere from 1.2mm and 0.4
no
1.2 - 0.4 = 0.8 and 1.2 + 0.4 = 1.6
latent mural
It could be from 0.1mm to 4.0mm
latent mural
Shut up einstein
storm bone
1.2±0.4 = 1.2 - 0.4 = 0.8 and 1.2 + 0.4 = 1.6
so the acctuation point is 0.8mm?
vagrant pagoda
between 0.8 AND 1.6
storm bone
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
so there isnt a specific actuation point
it varies?
uncut eagle
worn rain
What voltage is required for tachyon mode?
I’m Japanese.
English is not very good.
vagrant pagoda
What voltage is required for tachyon mode?
I’m Japanese.
English is not very g...
voltage?
latent mural
How much powwa
vagrant pagoda
less than the rgb
worn rain
Power
Keyboard bugs when using tachyon mode with anything other than the original cable.
due to lack of voltage.
worn rain
Thank you for your response.
vagrant pagoda
severe phoenix
true quest
but also return policy is 30 days from purchase let's go
severe phoenix
I mean I had already accepted my RMA will probably also be defective, but no fucking way am I waiting 30 days
fleet thistle
Can i get arrow keys and rctrl on the 60he without losing any gaming performance or original switches for most keys?
digital cliff
what
timber mantle
Can i get arrow keys and rctrl on the 60he without losing any gaming performance...
Yup. You can map the keys you want to perform multiple entries based on actuation.
short raven
@prisma crag tell me
What is cheaped out?
32 gb ddr5 6400 kit rgb
3 fan MSI ventus oc 4070 (there's a non oc 2 fan ventus that's $59 cheaper)
I7 13700KF
$165 hyte y40 case
PSU is 80+ gold I don't feel like taking off the back panel to show it
700w PSU which is plenty for this system
$170 ASRock z790 board with 4x superspeed m.2 slots
It's 4070, 32gb ddr5 6400 i7 13700kF
It's listed in quite detail right above this claim
sharp badger
iBuypowerfans? 😆
hard wadi
Oh yeah they use neo forza ram
short raven
That's impressive since it groups overclocked scores with stock ones
short raven
Oh yeah they use neo forza ram
Sometimes, it depends what their supplier has on hand
It's always rgb ram but the display model had trident ram
For example
And I looked up other ppl unboxing them and I saw different brands from machine to machine
fair gull
people run timespy? i thought the extreme tests are what people with OC run
hard wadi
People run everything
short raven
Look, my main point is that there's nothing cheaped out here
fair gull
iirc the lower tests (non extreme) can easily bottleneck
short raven
Every part in here is enthusiast grade parts
hard wadi
Here's mine on speedway
fair gull
oh i forgot its paid... since i got it for free
short raven
The only real thing this computer has wrong is that it's not the best config for performance per dollar
An i5 with a 4070ti would be the same price
And been 20% faster overall
Instead of the unlocked i7 with a 4070
What do you think I paid?
For my computer on a black Friday deal
That is the most important part here
fair gull
69420
fair gull
might be good to list the parts
fair gull
3000.69420
hard wadi
What is superspeed
sharp badger
The Mobo,fans and AIO is defo cheap the PSU is probably good but cheap
umbral heron
$3799
short raven
What is superspeed
Idunno, the m.2 slots say superspeed next to them on the motherboard
I presume it means they support very fast ssds
fair gull
What is superspeed
a usb name
hard wadi
It is
short raven
Anyone guessing what I paid?
fair gull
hard wadi
But what is it doing with nvme
short raven
Real guesses
fair gull
mine was real
hard wadi
This isn't a real guess
1.5k
fair gull
35.71GBP
short raven
In what world when the GPU is $650
hard wadi
Damn
short raven
It's 1800 now that the sale is over
But it was $1500 for black Friday when I bought it
All enthusiast level gaming parts too
short raven
The Mobo,fans and AIO is defo cheap the PSU is probably good but cheap
It remained below 65 degrees on cpu and gpu during timespy
Mainly because I don't know how to answer that
What do you want to see?
hard wadi
Then there's me with an asrock phantom 7800xt, an asus rog strix gaming wifi ii, ryzen 7 5700x and 3200mhz ram
With a 1300w psu
short raven
I kinda want a 7900xtx
But I cba upgrade the PSU
And ruin all the cable management
So I'm just gonna stick 4070
700w PSU has room for a 4070ti if needed
hard wadi
With a 1300w psu
Which is a little overkill but it was the price of a normal 800W psu and didn't find anyone having problems with it online
On discount ofc being half the price
short raven
What do you think of a 7900xtx
hard wadi
What do you think of a 7900xtx
It's better than the 4080
hard wadi
It's also a little cheaper
short raven
It's the same price
hard wadi
Here it's cheaper
short raven
Well rn 4080s are inflated
So they are $1200
Xtx is $1050
But they were the same price
Wow one single benchmark showing only 50 extra w
That's still a lot
Though
hard wadi
The cheapest 4080 here goes for 1229€
The cheapest rx 7800xt is 100€ cheaper here
short raven
Im already in bed and shut my PC down for the night
These photos and this benchmark I posted are from a week ago
How do I check that?
hard wadi
Yep
short raven
It's an 80+ gold PSU from Corsair
I'm sure it's fine
It's not like the old days where you got unrated OEM psus
short raven
I'ma just open the back panel and get a model number
Making me do this annoying shit
To see the model number on the PSU
I'd have to remove it
hardy idol
honestly I could care less about power consumption
steep creek
Just send a link to the website where you bought the computer, I’m sure they have all the specs listed😎
short raven
@prisma crag I found the model number for the psu
short raven
Just send a link to the website where you bought the computer, I’m sure they hav...
I bought in store
For a black Friday deal at bestbuy
steep creek
Ah
sharp badger
12700K & 3080 ain't that far off in performance
short raven
It's this PSU
But the 700w version
Ibp used to have a partnership with Corsair
So I assumed it would be Corsair but
It's high power instead which is a company that doesn't sell to consumers
Only to oems
They sell workstation/server psus
The weird part is high power doesn't sell a 700w PSU
But this one states to be 700w
On the side
Unless it's a custom order
sharp badger
Well i don't trust High Power psus
hardy idol
It's probably as trustworthy as Xilence or smth
sharp badger
Yeah
short raven
umbral heron
It looks like another run-of-the-mill OEM 
hardy idol
other easy place to cheap out is cable management
short raven
The memory is legit
Ram and ssd
This PSU is the only part I'm questioning about but it has all the proper ratings and certifications
If an enthusiast grade PSU
It's designed for servers which run 24/7
umbral heron
Server PSU have quite different form factor usually
hardy idol
Oh and server psus are preferably more than 80plus gold
sharp badger
Check out the ram in HWiNFO later
umbral heron
Those are server PSUs, designed to be hot-swappable
hardy idol
Samsung identifying as hynix a
sharp badger
Yeah that too
short raven
Im not seeing anyone saying anything is wrong with high power psus
They are a known OEM used by dell and hp
hardy idol
because god are dell and hps reliable
short raven
Fairly enough yeah
umbral heron
short raven
ill run cpu z
my machine also draws nowhere near 700w
4070 is absurdly power efficient
hardy idol
my machine also draws nowhere near 700w
good thing.
psu isn't most efficient at peak wattage
umbral heron
I will never touch Seasonic again I ran through 3 of their PSUs and all 3 of them had the same issue of randomly turning off PC and not letting me turn it back on for 5 minutes or so
bequiet and Cooler Master are fine by me
hardy idol
never had issues with seasonic tbh
short raven
im not seeing memory brands in cpuz @prisma crag
hardy idol
cooler master is a brand i wouldn't buy
umbral heron
I have Cooler Master MWE White 700W V2 now, works just fine
hardy idol
I have Cooler Master MWE White 700W V2 now, works just fine <:duck_sip:110332677...
i have a seasonic TX-1300 with no issues
short raven
its weird though
because neo forza doesnt sell 5200 rgb
only 6400 rgb
the 5200 only comes in non rgb
so its an item that doesnt exist if thats the case
that would fall on neo forza
not ibp
id say
short raven
i actually didnt know what the ram speed was
i bought in store
i made that assumption after looking at neo forzas ram
on their website
they didnt have a rgb ram stick below 6400
so i made that assumption on my own
hardy idol
they can order them because volume probably
if he checks the sticker on the sticks he'll probably find some weird sku too
short raven
ok grandpa
umbral heron
i have a seasonic TX-1300 with no issues
I used to have 2 Seasonic S12III 650W and Seasonic B12-BC-650, all three of them had the exact same issue
3600X + 6700XT will never chug anything in the neighborhood of 700W but still
short raven
but i think its reasonable to assume
that if the only product the company sells is 6400
that the one i nmy pc is probably 6400
hardy idol
I used to have 2 Seasonic S12III 650W and Seasonic B12-BC-650, all three of them...
S12 are basically known to be not their best psus
short raven
i doubt that is a risky assumption
actually
at 1500 dollars
i still got a lot more than i paid for
but yea, i guess ibp custom ordered this ram
much like the psu
both are probably oem specs
not retail
At the end of the day, I got good parts and a good score on timespy
And more than $1500 worth of parts
And a warranty on it all
It's also worth pointing out
Ram is dirt cheap
A 6400 kit 32gb like this kit
Is $90 rgb
$70 non rgb
The only part that angers me
Is that i can't upgrade to 64gb
Because getting 2 more sticks of the same ram is impossible
Because it's not commercially available
Essentially if I want to upgrade ram I need to throw out the sticks I got
64gb of ram isn't purely useless
In my line of work I learned real quick
If you can pay someone else to fix something
Always do it
So is 64gb of ram bad?
What's the point here
umbral heron
Using 4 sticks bad
umbral heron
umbral heron
I've found 2020 v1 version too
clever topaz
Using 4 sticks bad
can confirm
ever since i upgraded from 2x8 to 4x8 it was a nightmare
especially with first gen ryzen that need to do memory training on every boot
love that 2 min boot 
umbral heron
I have 4x8 now too, every time I boot my PC there's a dice roll - will it boot with 3200 or reboot 3 times and boot with 2666
Thankfully now more often boots with 3200 than not
final gyro
i got 4x16 💀
umbral heron
I'm going for 4x32 next year
Finally I would be able to use 1 PC for work instead of a PC and 2 laptops
umbral heron
VMs
Lots of VMs
final gyro
are you hosting a sever?
clever topaz
Nahhh screw vms, we goin in w docker and k8s
umbral heron
are you hosting a sever?
Yes, but it's not my PC
I'm working with VMs, kubernetes, lxc and all that stuff
final gyro
ah i see
i have 64gb rn
and i swear it has never gotten past 30gb
only time i hit 28gb was when i was coding my game
umbral heron
I have 32 and besides work I only used more than 16 for Tarkov
final gyro
i see
clever topaz
im struggling with 16gb on my laptop
final gyro
also do yall feel ram speed is a scam?
like the difference between my ddr5 laptop to my ddr4 desktop is not even noticeable
final gyro
im struggling with 16gb on my laptop
o yea 16gb is a bit too little
clever topaz
for now its scam yea but it will be important in the future
final gyro
like how?
clever topaz
a lot of games still dont use direct storage
final gyro
yea most of it is ram
final gyro
but i feel like they wont make it so unoptimised that its purely ram speed and stuff
wait actually unless gta 6 comes out with something
like details gonna be insane
umbral heron
But of course they will
Just like nowadays they're using DLSS/FSR to hide the fact that the game is unoptimized
clever topaz
thats the problem, most gpus dont have that much vram lol..
wheat plume
final gyro
thats the problem, most gpus dont have that much vram lol..
dont they usually have like 8gb?
clever topaz
im pretty sure its gonna take another 10 years until we see consumer cards with 24gb+ vram
final gyro
like ofc some goes into the actual ram
clever topaz
and not talking about 4090 stuff
final gyro
im pretty sure its gonna take another 10 years until we see consumer cards with ...
yea 24gb is a lot ngl
like that bitcoin mining amount
i got 12gb and i think thats a lot
wheat plume
I thought Widgets Panel on Windows 11 were open to third parties to make widgets for??
apparently only Microsoft apps can add Widgets to it
Who tf uses that panel anyway, its so annoying
clever topaz
Who tf uses that panel anyway, its so annoying
im not even logged in with my microsoft account i cant use it 
final gyro
this shit would not install
clever topaz
are yall stuck on this update
i didnt install updates in like 7 months
final gyro
i didnt install updates in like 7 months
Isn’t that kinda bad 😭
wheat plume
im not even logged in with my microsoft account i cant use it <:KEKW:10371184477...
I bet it still opens when you accidently hover the icon when going to click the start menu
clever topaz
Isn’t that kinda bad 😭
everything still running fine i dont see why i should update xD
final gyro
everything still running fine i dont see why i should update xD
Not for me 😭😭
Mines running like trash
My nzxt cam doesn’t recognize my cpu or gpu
And other stuff breaking too
clever topaz
I bet it still opens when you accidently hover the icon when going to click the ...
i think ive used some debloat script that removed it, not showing up in my search
wheat plume
you can turn it off in the widget panel
but you need to login to access the widget panel settings .-.
🤦♀️
clever topaz
wheat plume
so dumb .-.
umbral heron
Can't you edit it in registry?
wheat plume
not sure but most likely
clever topaz
i want to switch to linux so bad on my laptop
perhaps ill get more than 2 hours of battery life then
wheat plume
Microsoft: gets caught with their Windows 11 BS by the EU
EU: Forces them to give control back to users
Microsoft: Decides to make a seperate build of Windows 11 to comply for EU customers but still keep doing all that shit for everywhere else
Hopefully you can install the EU version outside of the EU somehow
umbral heron
wheat plume
May have to deal with having English as your language if you arent an english speaker though
umbral heron
Hopefully you can install the EU version outside of the EU somehow
Yeah, you can, you just need to have build downloaded from EU
wheat plume
aha
wont it automatically go back to the non-EU version if it realises you arent in the EU?
clever topaz
wont it automatically go back to the non-EU version if it realises you arent in ...
it would be dumb for them to do that
umbral heron
Most likely, but also in a few days there certainly will be patches which block that
clever topaz
what would happen if u travel a lot between continents
wheat plume
idk 
frozen ingot
May have to deal with having English as your language if you arent an english sp...
why? eu is mostly not english
umbral heron
what would happen if u travel a lot between continents <:OMEGALUL:10371184511326...
Inbuild GPS in TPM chip automatically disables Internet Explorer once you're in Schengen Area 
wheat plume
if you change it to your native language it will switch all that bs back on
frozen ingot
who says that tho
ashen spindle
You mean if you switch it to Spanish it enables it because Spain is not in the eu?
frozen ingot
we don't even know what the build will look like yet to my knowledge
ashen spindle
Your argument doesn’t make sense
clever topaz
if you change it to your native language it will switch all that bs back on
some OEM like HP or Lenovo will figure it out dw and we just rip it from that
frozen ingot
but spain is in eu?
ashen spindle
but spain is in eu?
Exactly
umbral heron
Nah, Language Packs are independent from the rest of OS
I guess it'll be geolocalization more or less
hidden quest
ashen spindle
Hence the point saying English would be needed doesn’t make sense
frozen ingot
the only english-speaking european country there was left the EU anyways
hidden quest
english is international language
frozen ingot
so bigger chance there's no english version if anything
wheat plume
the only english-speaking european country there was left the EU anyways <:havo:...
(Ireland speaks English...)
clever topaz
the only english-speaking european country there was left the EU anyways <:havo:...
bro forgot about ireland
was about to say
hidden quest
because i do think english somehow easy to learn , if we didnt count the complicate
frozen ingot
(Ireland speaks English...)
barely
hidden quest
🤔
umbral heron
I'd love to learn Irish 
wheat plume
I'd love to learn Irish <:blobaww:485173130344661003>
the language only you can speak anywhere you go ahah
clever topaz
the language will change
umbral heron
People around here are more impressed that I speak English than that I speak Russian
So English in Poland is still long way from being used by many
hidden quest
just take it as u work at society
wheat plume
Facebook are trying to battle the EU about Facebook Messenger being part of facebook and not its own entirely seperate application .-.
clever topaz
Facebook are trying to battle the EU about Facebook Messenger being part of face...
yep the same way they did with oculus
fair gull
Hopefully you can install the EU version outside of the EU somehow
you mean like downloading it
and installing it
like how you can just install any version of windows rn as well
clever topaz
if its a downloadable iso it would be sick but ms has always been kinda meh with prodiving direct image downloads, i had to use uup dump to get mine
analog sinew
why are you at all surprised
it's apple
fleecing is their whole business modell
but some spoiled kid will beg their mom cause it has the logo on the back so they can be cool at school
analog sinew
hidden quest
but some spoiled kid will beg their mom cause it has the logo on the back so the...
school day moment
analog sinew
clever topaz
but some spoiled kid will beg their mom cause it has the logo on the back so the...
me fr
hidden quest
https://tenor.com/view/yandere-kotonoha-school-days-kotonoha-katsura-anime-gif-1...
me when i doing my school hw :
this anime is good
when u got stress
analog sinew
the first part bored with the repetitions
only got a few3 eüisodes into the second season
hidden quest
https://tenor.com/view/peabody-duck-gif-15393431
time to slap that duck
i challenege that duck
hidden quest
https://tenor.com/view/the-office-is-bold-right-word-gif-13364157
yes bol(t) is the right word!
wheat plume
"Do it all in 1 Square Inch"...thats what I tell my wife
Linus - 2023
hard wadi
12700K & 3080 ain't that far off in performance
I have come to show off performance
sharp badger
Could clock stuff but eh it's good enough
The 3080 is a limiting factor atm. but it has run all the games i wanted this year so it's good enough
E.g. Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077 : Phantom Liberty, Star Wars Jedi : Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy think it's all the ''though'' running games i wanted to play this year so far
hidden quest
E.g. Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077 : Phantom Liberty, Star Wars Jedi : Survivor, H...
tbh metro series is offer
and i dont hve money
otherwise i would have try it
sharp badger
Ok these two where free on EGS sometime waay back
Might arrive this christmas again they've got 15 free games during the holidays or they had it last year
umbral heron
Metro is one of those games that you have in your game library, but don't exactly know where from
sharp badger
Actually Metro : Last light complete edition was free on Steam in May
umbral heron
owo? Metro bundle is €3 on Fanatical
@hidden quest you want a key? They gave me additional discount a while ago so it'll cost me like half a euro
umbral heron
Fanatical is legit retailer, owned by Focus Multimedia, a British publisher
sharp badger
I also have a wishlist which is not really too demanding for the setup
ashen spindle
it looks a lot llike g2scam but it is legit
fair gull
it looks a lot llike g2scam but it is legit
see thats what i thought
ashen spindle
then again its owned by fandom which means for some people its worse than if it was a scam
hidden quest
<@363965809736810497> you want a key? They gave me additional discount a while a...
wait is that dangeorous ?
but yah i dont have money
this is the whole point
reef patrol
https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-8086630669522815021
If you feel the need to keep using that one gif over and over and over, please relocate to #🐸│memes
hidden quest
If you feel the need to keep using that one gif over and over and over, please r...
just my way to express though , dont tell me you got question on it
umbral heron
this is the whole point
Check DMs 
hidden quest
Check DMs <a:SilvJams:1158194803956269087>
ok!
thick elk
I was thinking, quite a bad list of worst gpu's then I saw the name underneath and it became clear.
ashen spindle
yup lol
hardy idol
I had an R9 290 and a vega64
ashen spindle
very biasd list
the vega FE belongs on there
or like, anything thats older, whats the oldest gpu on that, 10 years?
hardy idol
I had a sapphire trix r2 290
and an asus strix oc vega64
dont really see why they sucked
heat production was a thing but other than that?
ashen spindle
as qlum said is on the author, he wrote for toms in the past, left for some leakers website now is back after he ranted on twitter and deactivated
hardy idol
ah
thick elk
I think he stared out with the website of adored tv with tons of bad takes
ashen spindle
yes
wheat plume
Is there something like event viewer for Linux? I wanna know why my laptop froze for seemingly no reason twice in the last hour
thick elk
jouralctl
wheat plume
how do i use this
steep creek
today i learnt you can charge your cellphone with an ioniq 5 lol
wheat plume
Oh xd
halcyon moss
A few more cars actually.
steep creek
yeah doug was using an adapter, likely fits the others
halcyon moss
It also fits the kia ev6
It's the same platform.
V2l or something
Platform name is e-gmp
steep creek
i believe this ioniq supports biodirectional charging yeah
halcyon moss
But that's still early tech
steep creek
and then the kia would too naturally
yeah years ago i saw nissan advertising with the old first gen leaf that it could give power back to some big battery you had at home
but seems that idea didnt take off for now
halcyon moss
Chargers which do that are pricy
And you need the correct car
And it's scary to use a battery like that.
Although it seems fine on the degradation of the battery
steep creek
yeah i havent looked into this too much but to me its more sensible to not discharge the car this way. rather have something like the tesla powerwall if you want to rely less on the grid
with solar panels of course
reef patrol
clever topaz
astral haven
yeah years ago i saw nissan advertising with the old first gen leaf that it coul...
nissan was advertising it, but it was another company, and compatible with all of chademo
it flopped outside of japan because we use a different charging plug
astral haven
yeah i havent looked into this too much but to me its more sensible to not disch...
a powerwall is something like 1/3 the average bev battery capacity
and if you are already buying the car, its substantially cheaper to get an adapter than an entire battery
blazing crescent
nissan was advertising it, but it was another company, and compatible with all o...
They didn’t… ship a converter?
astral haven
this type of converter wasnt possible
steep creek
ah right that was the reason
astral haven
these are many hundred volt DC connectors
ford and hyundai are chickening out and only doing AC
steep creek
a powerwall is something like 1/3 the average bev battery capacity
and if you ar...
i havent been able to view local prices since i dont think its available here for now
astral haven
which means you are limited to around 12kw max theoretically
the box alone is 9k
for the powerwall
installation adds another few k
usd
steep creek
yikes yeah i can see why its not worth it in that scenario
astral haven
it can be worth it, but it requires relatively high electricity prices and use
steep creek
13.5 kWh, and we dont get much sunlight here
astral haven
in particularly awful time of use areas, it can pay for itself on its own
but only in locations where they sell to the grid
steep creek
actually my uncle commisoned to get solar panels installed but he decided not to in the end, because it would take some 25 years to get returns on it
yeah for some areas its a good investment
astral haven
the powerwall has a special deal with utilities where it buys and sells power in a relatively optimal manner back to the grid
the prices the utilities normally give are atrocious, and you can massively speed up repayment of panels or just have the powerwall pay for itself
vagrant pagoda
A consumer hv DC device is porb hard to bring to market
Most electricians couldn't work on it
astral haven
nah
solar is super common
tho moving to microinverters means its now ac
but still DC vs AC isnt that huge of a difference
at least from the electricians side
vagrant pagoda
I mean they don't have the buffer to spin down
astral haven
like actually zero or is it like 10%?
vagrant pagoda
Yeah to many sold and they couldn't handle it
It cost money to import peak power like that without control over it
astral haven
i imagine a powerwall could make bank there
vagrant pagoda
They need a ton of storage to make it worth while
vagrant pagoda
i imagine a powerwall could make bank there
Normal solar has like 4-5 year complete roi
astral haven
in hawaii?
vagrant pagoda
Yeah
vagrant pagoda
Before they blocked it company's would install panels for free and you would pay them the power bill
Minus like 30%
For 10 year terms
They made killings
Hawaii eletric got it banned
vagrant pagoda
how much per kwh?
50cents +
astral haven
time of use?
vagrant pagoda
All day
vagrant pagoda
Maui is more like 60+
No peak power
Renewables take care of peak
They have a shit ton of solar
astral haven
ion
how much does 1kwh cost peak
how much does 1kwh cost at the off peak
vagrant pagoda
The same
astral haven
what
vagrant pagoda
Residential has same pricing
Peak only applies to large businesses
Even at 50 cents it's heavily subsidized for residential
They shift the burden to the hotels and such
But it shifts a ton
It's only like 15c pre fuel surcharge
After fuel surcharge it's over 50
astral haven
november and december this year estimated rates
yikes
46c/additional kwh estimated
excluding fixed costs
oh and how much does gas cost?
$5 says google
that seems relatively fine?
steep creek
$5 a gallon?
astral haven
presumeably
steep creek
thats not bad tbh, close to half our price for a full tank
astral haven
and for a 40mpg car, 12c per mile
about 10x the cost per mile of my car
and infinitely more than an aptera would be
steep creek
i considered a 21 gallon tank car doing 27mpg combined, 23 in the city asnd 31 highway
excited for the aptera but also kinda into the ioniq 5 now
astral haven
its a damn expensive car
vagrant pagoda
Dad lives on the mountain and got a prime
astral haven
its prius or rav4 afaik
vagrant pagoda
But it charges 60% on the way to town
astral haven
nice
vagrant pagoda
Takes 80 to get uo
astral haven
yea the tallest hill around here only charges me up like 4%
didnt pay attention how much it cost to get up
vagrant pagoda
Like 7000 feet
Of drop lol
His other car is a diesel jeep truck
So his fuel cost is kind of normal between the too
No Costco
vagrant pagoda
Gallons
astral haven
But it charges 60% on the way to town
that is really inconvenient ofc since if you fully charge at home, you wont be able to use your battery to coast down the hill without brakes
astral haven
should have sold when was it, 2 years ago?
woven laurel
dont take me serious man im just memeing
astral haven
im not, i sold most of mine over 50k
ashen spindle
should have rebought when it was 20k but dont worry, go in now before it reaches 100k!!!
nothing could go wrong
astral haven
lol
astral haven
"v2"
ashen spindle
yes the original didnt work anymore
astral haven
😉
gusty kiln
shifting goal post 
ashen spindle
to be fair the old one didnt even fit the data it used fully 😛 so there is an argument it was flawed before
marsh glade
I've seen talking heads going on about how there's going to be a Santaclaus rally in equities as if the last month didn't rip face, another surefire top signal for risk-on assets 😂
astral haven
to be fair the old one didnt even fit the data it used fully 😛 so there is an a...
im sure enrons line would have much closer fit the data
until it suddenly didnt
marsh glade
Dollar wrapped up its dirty work last week, moving lower below old lows, and is free to rally as a flight to safety
When the stars align...
astral haven
what
vagrant pagoda
that is really inconvenient ofc since if you fully charge at home, you wont be a...
Cost to much to plug in
He charges it for free at work and stores
astral haven
right
vagrant pagoda
Electric isn't great at 50-60c kwh lol
Prime doesn't have a ton of range/battery though
astral haven
yea im charging from solar which our utility pays us 6c back for, so thats effectively my cost
astral haven
Prime doesn't have a ton of range/battery though
alot more than the non prime tho
vagrant pagoda
14 kwh 40 miles
So 7 bucks for 40 miles
For $4.5 for 54 miles
So electric is worse than gas
astral haven
mine is 20kwh for 72 miles
you sure thats correct?
remember the primes reserve a significant portion of the battery for the hybrid system, so you actually have to do the math
vagrant pagoda
But it pays for itself on the uphill trip
Steep grades are horrible on gas efficiency
You are getting anywhere near 50 let alone probably 20 uphill
astral haven
downhill too, if you didnt have the battery youd be putting that energy somewhere else in the car
vagrant pagoda
yall care about efficiency?
Efficiency is money
astral haven
i care about dolla dolla bills yo
vagrant pagoda
My dad's other vehicle is a diesel truck that gets 12 miles per gallon
At diesel $6 a gallon
vagrant pagoda
By swapping the second car through something so cheap per mile it offsets
hardy idol
nice
hardy idol
rumor says when v needs to go to town
they just release the parking brake
vagrant pagoda
That's part of my dad's ride to work lol
He lives up the mountain though from there
Eh he's kind of famous at this point so it's fine lol
astral haven
big problem with electric even here where at home its a dollar to fill up, its $8 for a cheap stop when im not at home and i dont have much range...
aptera hype
its pretty incredible that the aptera charges (in terms of miles per hour) within an order of magnitude of my current car just from the sun
my car can get about 20-25 miles of range in an hour of charging from the wall
the aptera charges about 4 miles per hour of just sitting in the sun
steep creek
Epic
hardy idol
thanks im gonna visit cya tomorrow
I'll just look for miat
but not like ill be on hawaii for another 400 years
chrome estuary
out of all places i wouldn't expect that to be in korea
severe phoenix
Korea is probably the only country chargng them what they should be
umbral heron
First Korean ISPs had beef with Netflix, now with Twitch...
clever topaz
Good thing that Worlds will be in Europe next year
Most korean-english content creators will probably move to youtube now, I guess?
umbral heron
Good, let Twitch finally die, platform for e-thots and teasing content ffs -.-
tacit stratus
In Korea, there will be a new broadcast platform provided by Naver Company
I think Korean-English content creators will do it on new broadcasting platforms or YouTube
steep creek
Good, let Twitch finally die, platform for e-thots and teasing content ffs -.-
Great news
umbral heron
It'll be either YouTube, Naver or AfreecaTV ig
Good to know there are places which stop ever-reaching tentacles of Amazon
hardy idol
Korea is probably the only country chargng them what they should be
tbh yeah
hardy idol
It'll be either YouTube, Naver or AfreecaTV ig
Good to know there are places whi...
not youtube
they're selfsabotaging with their ad blocker mission
umbral heron
Ah yes
They could be quiet about it, let ad blockers be still a niche and keep their billions safe
But no, more billions! Muh money! And people got to know ad blockers exist and are actively fighting against it
umbral heron
Yeah, yesterday with 0.0.37 update
I don't like new mic and headphones icons
Everything was stretched to fit square/circle
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUT4d5IVY0A ah nice gn made a video about this fun slide xD
thick elk
It's still quite the funny thing to point out after re-releasing the same cpu with a bit higher clock speeds
ashen spindle
And it’s going to get so much worse with next gen lol
It’s just really funny timing as well, giving that GN is in SF for the amd event lol
ashen spindle
reef patrol
umbral heron
ashen spindle
But not only the average FPS are rising significantly with FMF, the massive problems with framepacing have also fixed AMD. Whether VSync is switched on or off does not matter for the feeling. VRR works as it should. Latency is not a bigger problem, at least in terms of feeling,
Looks like it finally has a proper launch and not whatever that rushed summer version was
fair gull
reef patrol
Apparently they already retracted the whole campaign?
Someone at marketing's getting a sad note for Christmas
fair gull
still incredible they did this
ashen spindle
cmon tony its not even been 2 hours since I posted it 😛
reef patrol
fair gull
umbral heron
fair gull
doubling down is the only right move im sorry
steep creek
Yeah and intel is better because they are intelligent right
fair gull
thats what intel is short for right
wheat plume
6.3GB of RAM Usage with Discord, Youtube Music, Chrome with many tabs open and two instances of Android Studio all running across multiple virtual desktops
not bad!
clever topaz
6.3GB of RAM Usage with Discord, Youtube Music, Chrome with many tabs open and t...
~20 docker containers, kde and a tiny10 vm to host windows apps
wheat plume
o.o
clever topaz
tbf i could make it go lower than 4gb by just using a different WM but i wanted a fool safe one that didnt break after every pacman -Syu (which it did anyways a few weeks ago)
can't wait to update to plasma 6
umbral heron
MS Teams
reef patrol
Poor case can't breathe
rough osprey
how friggin big is this thing
rough osprey
i guess im used to sff now
steep creek
I don’t mean to be rude but you can trigger someone’s epilepsy with your profile gif
I just misclicked on your profile and saw it
hardy idol
lol
steep creek
lol
ashen spindle
That is a polite way of saying you should change it
umbral heron
fair gull
i was about to say just report the profile if its inappropriate or such
severe phoenix
ashen spindle
Yeah but sometimes people remove things when it’s pointed out
If not then easy report
Also amd Event in 3 hours
digital cliff
not on me, I'm not home
ashen spindle
Ok so you just like being a dick and don’t care if someone gets an epileptic shock, got it
analog sinew
another day another ayaneo handheld
digital cliff
mesh, mine's facing away from me and besides I have nothing inside worth looking at so I don't really care for the glass
I'm not into lights and/or making the inside all themed and nice looking so I just took the mesh for more air I guess haha
ashen spindle
analog sinew
crazy
steep creek
i just dont want someone to get such a shock after having someone close to me experience it. if you dont care, whatever, ill just report your account and move on
reef patrol
@rich sand Please change it, and get back to us once you've done so. Should you ignore this polite request, you will have to find a different community to engage with.
steep creek
thank you mansen and quin, i appreciate it
timber mantle
Ahhh did I miss something fun!!?
ashen spindle
just epilepsy triggering avatar and banner
timber mantle
So I don't mean this to sound insensitive, but how do epileptics play games but an avatar can trigger it?
Or were you being hyperbolic?
thick elk
Just omg_hai's shtity profile picture changing colors
it's solid colors cycling fast
I will add that I had exactly that as a screensaver at some point
ashen spindle
I mean there are warnings in games if they know they have scenes like that
timber mantle
Fair.
ashen spindle
and it wasnt something fast moving it was litearlly full colors just flashing as fast as the gif allowed
thick elk
Of course, I would not use it here either
timber mantle
I was expecting something more salacious to be honest.
thick elk
As for it actually triggering people with photo sensitive epilepsy, debatable but when your intent is flashing colors that's the problem.
It is not just some incedental effect of a moving background, flashing is the whole thing.
timber mantle
Flashing?!?!
astral haven
samsung has had it for at least 2 years
reef patrol
About time. Hopefully that cuts down severely on ahem "borrowed" photos from phones.
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfSZqjxsr0M 90 minutes left
steep creek
nice, will check it out
umbral heron
pale sigil
wheat plume
The December 2023 Feature Drop update brings a much newer Arm Mali GPU kernel driver to Tensor Pixels, which users report significantly improves performance in games like Genshin Impact and Fortnite!
The GPU kernel driver has been upgraded from r38p1 released on August 18, 2022 to r44p1, which was released on October 11, 2023 (H/T @mile_freak07). (The GPU kernel driver version in the current Android 14 QPR2 beta is still r44p1.)
If you have a Tensor Pixel, try out some games/GPU benchmarks and see if the performance has improved significantly for you.
Alex Mullis noticed a major performance improvement in Genshin Impact a few weeks back after the game's version 4.2 update. The game ran quite poorly on the Pixel 8's Android 14 stable release, but ran much better on the QPR beta.
User TechDroider did a performance comparison between stable Android 14 and Android 14 QPR2 Beta 1 in Fortnite.
umbral heron
https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-devs-say-atmosphere-is-soul-crushing-amid-la...
So either Sony will devour Bungie or Bungie will fall apart by trying to prevent it 