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cursive summit
cursive summit
Polish Lithuanian commonwealth
One day it be real again 
crisp granite
That’s actually cute as hell wtf 😳
cursive summit
That’s actually cute as hell wtf 😳
pale sigil
i decided to return
cursive summit
pale sigil
lol
gleaming oxide
i found the same 4070 on the same board at same vendors and everything the same, only difference is the sku. is there some sort of difference worth 50 bucks?
pale sigil
Lotr? Nah they don't suck at all but the HD DVDs are good
@prisma crag basically avoid 4k blu ray
The 1080p one was fine
rough osprey
damn they forgot the color grade
devout fiber
anybody know some good black/blue 60% key caps?
cursive summit
Sam is not returning
But this is actually an absolutely trash hire
Ex-Twitch CEO does not have a good record
hardy idol
cursive summit
They sure fucking do, some dipship has registered my email to some marketing agency that are now spamming adverts via klaviyo
For random bands and shit lol, at least they get spam filtered
steep creek
cursive summit
Ahahahaa
Microsoft definitely struck gold
Just poached some top talents
Although I am not too sure why they need Sam Altman
Guy doesn't have any technical background afaik, doesn't have even much of a diverse professional work background
Yeah his alma mater is dropping out of university, no real education
hardy idol
Although I am not too sure why they need Sam Altman
he seems to understand the concept and what teams and skills are needed to make the product
cursive summit
And also is proving himself to be business minded ignoring the safety aspect of it
He's half the reason OpenAI went ClosedAI
hardy idol
In technical worlds, you need people with limited understanding of the actual technical stuff as they are more efficient for a lot of tasks
hardy idol
He's half the reason OpenAI went ClosedAI
not an issue for Microsoft
why would you think Microsoft would see that as an issue
cursive summit
As long as Altman stops prioritizing profits over safety of the product, he can lead whatever he wants
His moto is churn out products for people to buy, doesn't matter if those products are really ready
Last thing we need is a corporate mind using megacorp funds to release more borked, flawed models that actually might be dangerous
hardy idol
do you think Microsoft sees that as an issue?
cursive summit
Microsoft? Hell no
They are profits minded as most corps
Safe AI ethics people are probably very concerned with 2 questionable individuals becoming leading characters of 2 big companies
And I might be more pro-closed source, but open source is cute
hardy idol
so technically amd could commission intel to manufacture their products
woven laurel
umbral heron
Gatling tater launcher 
solar reef
Yo guys I bought a mouse couple days ago but it’s starting to lagg and bug im playing fort why is this happening ?
cursive summit
Don't play sand castles with mouses
solar reef
💀
boreal kiln
Yo guys I bought a mouse couple days ago but it’s starting to lagg and bug im pl...
what mouse?
raw zephyr
@old marlin do you know about any "gaming" digital pedals? how come no big brand has come up with that yet
severe phoenix
cursive summit
umbral heron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8SonaOqFsU
Oh, how I love psycho Sony fans defending $200 piece of e-waste
rough osprey
rip openai
old marlin
<@595970503710343168> do you know about any "gaming" digital pedals? how come no...
Nope
Probably just too slim of a market
vagrant pagoda
Just use rudder pedals lol
vagrant pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDEUOoWTzGw
Zoom zoom
old marlin
scythe made some
idk if those could be counted as gaming
very gamer
and ceesa makes his own ones
vagrant pagoda
There are tons of productivity ones
old marlin
are there?
boreal kiln
elgato has a foot pedal
hardy idol
<@595970503710343168> do you know about any "gaming" digital pedals? how come no...
Thrustmaster t3pa?
vagrant pagoda
Thrustmaster t3pa?
Analog
Wow ln2 was only 5.9
Also 96C doing 1600w on ln2 at 6ghz
old marlin
Wow ln2 was only 5.9
all core?
vagrant pagoda
Yeah
He got 5.2 easily on aio,but it would saturate the cooker
And 5.9 on ln2
Now we know why Asus put dual PSU and that huge vrm
1600w CPU only is insane
Sucks we don't have multi GPU anymore
Could you imagine a quad SLI bench on that
cursive summit
1600w CPU only is insane
That sounds very expensive to run lol
crisp granite
business expense
cursive summit
Well yes but paying like 30 cents every half an hour (on full load) is pretty sad
crisp granite
not if the performance it offers more than justifies the cost
cursive summit
Fair
old marlin
That sounds very expensive to run lol
totally a 24/7 setup one would run
vagrant pagoda
I mean yeah if you need th c
old marlin
th c
vagrant pagoda
At 5.2 with water cooling the 64c out runs sapphire rapids on ln2
The 96c will wipe the floor on everything in threaded tasks
cursive summit
YouTube caught doing illegal shit lol
Artificially slowing down Firefox browsers
cursive summit
"watching Youtube anonymously"... meh
raw zephyr
run it on a vps and route it through tor, as anonymous as watching youtube can get
cursive summit
That is way too much work?
reef patrol
Artificially slowing down Firefox browsers
Ancient news.
cursive summit
Ancient news.
A day old?
cursive summit
Why would I want to use some kind of third party anonymous client, run it on VPS and route it through Tor when that is just worse than just using normal regular youtube.com?
I don't care for anonymity, I hate Google doing stupid things like artificially nerfing browser performance
raw zephyr
so why do you comment on "watching Youtube anonymously", when it's clearly possible
cursive summit
What
reef patrol
A day old?
This isn't the first time this has happened. The whole "Google is intentionally slowing down Firefox" is like a year or more old.
raw zephyr
read your messages
cursive summit
Why did you even link me an anonymous youtube client
That's literally not my point at all
raw zephyr
cursive summit
I mean, sure
cursive summit
This isn't the first time this has happened. The whole "Google is intentionally ...
Seems they are on it again, and I would love to see Europe take action
EU has been my favourite law enforcement agency this year, they really been doing some good stuff
What the fuck is going on https://vxtwitter.com/WIRED/status/1726597509215027347
cursive summit
" Nearly 500 employees of OpenAI have signed a letter saying they may quit unless the startup's board resigns"... one of the signees being ILYA SUTSKEVER?
The guy who kickstarted this whole shit is signing a letter to depose himself? 
And go work with Sam at Microsoft?
This makes absolutely no sense
steep creek
Looks like a field day for microsoft
cursive summit
This is actually one of the funniest things I have ever seen
rough osprey
all getting fired again in a few years when ai trend isn't big anymore
umbral heron
I think AI trend will stay with us for a while
cursive summit
- Sam Altman gets fired out of a sudden, rumours say spearheaded by Ilya Sutskever
- Some key people quit with Sam
- OpenAI says Sam is hard to work with, interim CEO appointed
- Microsoft tries to stay neutral but throws some shots at board members of OpenAI
- Board says that Sam can come back, but board has to resign in return
- Altman petitions at OpenAI headquarters lol
- Interim CEO decides to announce plans to hire Altman as CEO again
- Board hires a new CEO, ex-Twitch CEO, fires the interim CEO
- Altman and talent poached by Microsoft
- Ilya Sutskever signs a letter to impeach himself to go work with Sam Altman at Microsoft
What the fuck is this timeline 
This is top notch humour
Is this some top level sabotage to completely derail the company so that it gets absorbed by Microsoft completely? Cause it sure seems to be going that way
This is actually peak drama
cinder tinsel
When you order a monitor for pc does it have the hdmi cable in the box so you can connect it?
rough osprey
normally yes
cinder tinsel
Should I order a cable just in case if it doesnt have?
reef patrol
When you order a monitor for pc does it have the hdmi cable in the box so you ca...
Or DP. Depends on the model.
It's usually mentioned on the product page
reef patrol
Should I order a cable just in case if it doesnt have?
Are you within driving distance of a store that sells them? Then I'd wait.
cinder tinsel
Are you within driving distance of a store that sells them? Then I'd wait.
No im ordering from amazon
rough osprey
ye so?
cinder tinsel
I was talking to my friend he said that he had some issues with displat port
reef patrol
Though I assume your graphics card has a plug for it
cinder tinsel
So not HDMI
So I have to order it?
reef patrol
If the monitor has HDMI, but the cable is not included? Yes you'll need to bring your own cable.
Though do note that if this is a +120hz monitor, you might not get full Hz with HDMI
cinder tinsel
Though I assume your graphics card has a plug for it
Now I dont have a pc so I will use it with my laptop for a time and then in future I will buy one
cinder tinsel
Now I dont have a pc so I will use it with my laptop for a time and then in futu...
And my laptop doesnt have displsy port cable
rough osprey
so you need to buy an hdmi cable then
cinder tinsel
If the monitor has HDMI, but the cable is not included? Yes you'll need to bring...
What cable you can recommend
Wdym not full hz with hdmi?
I want to get that pixio one it has 165hz
rough osprey
get a cable thats atleast hdmi 2. 0
cinder tinsel
get a cable thats atleast hdmi 2. 0
2.0?
rough osprey
yes
cinder tinsel
Whats the difference between others
cinder tinsel
Is this aleight?
Amazon Basics High-Speed, 4K Ultra HD HDMI 2.0 Cable/ Cord, 60 Hz, 2160p, 48 bit, 18 Gbps, 3D, Male to Male, 0.9 m, (2.9ft), Black https://amzn.eu/d/fGzYJDS
rough osprey
if the length is enough for you
seems fine
aint no way samsung deleted the one ui 6 roadmap
😔
astral haven
aint no way samsung deleted the one ui 6 roadmap
It did just release for most folks
rough osprey
s21 was supposed to release today
s22 some days ago
but they just released beta for s22 then
and seems like s22 is getting stable today
astral haven
I'm on the beta for the s21
And I don't think there was any road map that was down to the day lel
rough osprey
there was one
rough osprey
what country got the s21 beta
astral haven
usa?
astral haven
there was one
got the dead link?
rough osprey
nah
astral haven
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-one-ui-6-0-release-date-timeline-announced-compatible-devices/
found it
EU only, unofficial
rough osprey
hopefully its there next week
astral haven
also fyi the updates often come later in the day
rough osprey
its later in the day
wouldn't expect s22 and s21 on the same day
especially when they released a test version today
neat lance
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-one-ui-6-0-release-date-timeline-announce...
any news when it will come for US?
astral haven
its unofficial for EU as well
old marlin
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-one-ui-6-0-release-date-timeline-announce...
According to that my a54 should have gotten it last week
rough osprey
still by Samsung
rough osprey
they also mentioned it on some Samsung app info page
astral haven
[citation needed]
rough osprey
it's what the news sites mention so I'll trust that
astral haven
so link them?
thick elk
very gamer
I have exactly these, they feel quite nice and work well. Mostly use them for push to talk, with different voice channels bound to different keys at timed.
old marlin
Ceesa has his foot button for fire
thick elk
okay, thats not that is quite tje odd setup. for push to talk they are great, especially in cases where you use multiple voice channels, such as when I still played PS2 with a larger outfit.
My desk is my arm rests, my arms are long enough not to benefit from anything higher, they are the first thing I remove from any office chair I use.
reef patrol
Arm rests are for the week.
thick elk
my natural position / my elbows at 9 degrees
vagrant pagoda
Arm rests are for the week.
Needing arm rests mean your desk/chair is at a bad height
thick elk
Slight correction, was lifting my shoulder, this is a more natural 90 degrees
thick elk
Btw Vio this is how I have it set up at work, the speakers salvaged are edifier S730s. I angled it using some packing foam from a laptop.
on screen is my eq profile I obtained from room eq wizzard and my measurement mic (not the best one but good enough)
wheat plume
Aha
hidden quest
Btw Vio this is how I have it set up at work, the speakers salvaged are edifier ...
man about to be a cctv watcher
r
thick elk
r
There is only one camera displayed on there, the one for the front door, even have a keybinding set-up to open the door
languid fossil
Btw Vio this is how I have it set up at work, the speakers salvaged are edifier ...
is that KDE plasma?
languid fossil
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/17z8hsz/youtube_has_started_to_artific...
this sucks
thick elk
That youtube thing seems delibirate but also something ublock origin can fix
ashen spindle
it also seems like the internet jumping the wrong gun just to be outraged
unless chrome is suddenly firefox because I've been getting same issues on pure chrome
smoky frigate
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/17z8hsz/youtube_has_started_to_artific...
it is likely a result of their adblock checking thing, the offending code does not check for the browser user agent
astral haven
also youtube loading the first time is vastly slower than the second time
silent ember
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/1CJWLAuhy8
i experienced this on chrome as well btw
ashen spindle
yeah it looks like they fucked up some caching or something
be it as a mistake or a side effect from ad block fuckery we dont know
but its the internet so someone has to be executed
smoky frigate
people want it to be true due to their bias against google
ashen spindle
astral haven
hanlons razor my dudes lel
languid fossil
https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-...
this re-draw looks clean
smoky frigate
seems obvious saying it out loud, but we all do it
languid fossil
people want it to be true due to their bias against google
the bias against google is even stronger on Lemmy, and people there are furious
thick elk
www.youtube.com##+js(nano-stb, resolve(1), *, 0.001) as a filter in ublock seems to fix it
or should rather
If this type of thing becomes a bigger issue, Ill switch my youtube player to smplayer instead, maybe I should do that regardless.
thick elk
is that KDE plasma?
yes, the default background kind of gave it away.
languid fossil
yes, the default background kind of gave it away.
nice
I'm hyped for plasma 6
it seems to bring a lot of tiny QOL changes
hardy idol
Btw Vio this is how I have it set up at work, the speakers salvaged are edifier ...
So much stuff
P nice tho
pale sigil
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/17z8hsz/youtube_has_started_to_artific...
This is not new.
Its just worse
Its the main reason i stopped using FF years ago, once they disabled the legacy site.
ashen spindle
it is also not true
pale sigil
ashen spindle
its not targeted at firefox
wheat plume
It's targeted at anything that's not Chrome , then?
pale sigil
setTimeout(function() {
c();
a.resolve(1)
}, 5E3);```it happens in chrome
smoky frigate
it's a bug in the adblock-checking code
pale sigil
idk if that's relevant
But Google apps have always had shite that runs horrible on FF
smoky frigate
it is, but the code around it doesn't check for browser user agent
pale sigil
As i see
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Regardless, google apps have always ran shite on FF
ashen spindle
literally no problem for me on firefox atm
hidden quest
There is only one camera displayed on there, the one for the front door, even ha...
I didn't see it , but ur setup is Worth referencing
smoky frigate
perhaps. I shitcanned firefox when it hit version 1.5 and never looked back LOL
hidden quest
```js
function smb() {
var a, b, c, d, e, h, l;
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...
Me when I can't comprehend my own hw
pale sigil
I used it when quantum came out for a solid three years or more?
I movd to Brave 3y ago when Google discontinued Youtubes legacy site.
smoky frigate
use brave too, some annoying features but thankfully you can turn them all off
ashen spindle
ironically FF works perfectly for me and chrome has the loading bug currently
pale sigil
i tried so hard to get FF issues fixed.
Hell i retried it again last year but no avail, different system etc
i envy their container system
ashen spindle
I mean I'm just using FF on work pc so I'm staying on chrome for most things but currently it just works better lol
pale sigil
Thats fair.
vagrant pagoda
i tried so hard to get FF issues fixed.
what issues?
pale sigil
i cba to do this all again
But many sites i used regularry were just slow on FF compared to chrome and borderline broke, its not just me, nor is it enirely down to FF itself but shitty practices.
Point is no matter what, there was no real solution after many many many attemps to fix so i swtiched back to chromium.
vagrant pagoda
only thing ever slow for me in FF is loading all my tabs on a reboot
pale sigil
Are you sure it's not slow because you're accustomed to it, and you might not recognize what 'fast' is? 
ashen spindle
as long as you have adblock so you ignore the ad spam most browsers are the same
in terms of page rendering
pale sigil
never have a page take more than 2-5 seconds
2 seconds?
Thats an eternity
Jokes aside.
One of my biggest issues was YouTube and GDrive, again this was 3 years ago.
vagrant pagoda
ads kill yuoutube even the page load
ive had red forever, and when im logged out the entire site is slower
pale sigil
When i originally had the issue i learned about googles whole bs code so i moved to YouTube classic but they disabled it and i could not cope going back to a shitty experience where my player would even buffer at times.
Again, 3 years ago.
Well 4 or so if you count pre classic fix
As for ads, i have premium too
smoky frigate
in terms of page rendering
tbf out of a control group of 2 browser engines.. well I guess it's technically true
pale sigil
i tried again a year ago and had similar issues but they were not as bad, but enought to not bother switching.
smoky frigate
and why would you. just use the browser most useful to you
I will never understand choosing software for ideological reasons
unless you are RMS
pale sigil
I will never understand choosing software for ideological reasons
I do miss containers though 
isn't vivaldi chromium blink
smoky frigate
and safari is just blink's dad
I don't mind there being 2 major engines, both are open source and good
why is that a bad thing? do we need 3 more mediocre ones?
astral haven
not as cheap as paper stickers
ashen spindle
not as cheap as just no spreader
crisp granite
so glad I spent big bucks on a samsung 980 pro
still, fast enough for me to use as a boot drive/Alan Wake 2 drive
hopefully the latter
astral haven
i just bought the 35-150 2-2.8
rough osprey
why so late
rough osprey
i mean the review
astral haven
it just released...
rough osprey
ye but the camera released 2 months ago lol
astral haven
did you watch the vid?
rough osprey
no
astral haven
theres janky bs going on that they had to investigate
astral haven
so what bit depth are the raws on this camera
heres the spec sheet
ill give you a hint its none of the bit numbers shown above
and for these medium format sized devices, it really actually matters
because throwing away the bits brings these cameras down to the level of full frame
but everything costs so much more money
astral haven
its actually pretty hard
mechanical shutter only for 1
but the problem is the fuji is dropping to 12 bits for the raws
and it has a sensor with more than 12 bits of dynamic range
astral haven
unlike the sonys which while they are brushing up on the edge of 12 bits, its still technically fully containable within 12 bits
ornate elk
is ddr5 actually worth the upgrade?
ashen spindle
well you dont really have a choice on newer cpus
ornate elk
sorry, i phrased that badly, i meant from ddr5 4000 mhz to ddr5 6000 mhz, is it actually worth the upgrade?
astral haven
https://hwbot.org/submission/5398462_hicookie_memory_frequency_ddr5_sdram_5824.2_mhz
could get a WR with 6000mhz ddr5 lel
ornate elk
haha, this is why i have a prebuilt 😅
i figured out how to upgrade my gpu but that was about it'
sounds good
rough osprey
damn bluray players are expensive
umbral heron
PlayStation 4? One of the cheapest BluRay players 
hollow prism
if you're using it for a living room tv, you'll never notice. MAYBE if youre going to use it on a monitor but nothing over 32in will be different
rough osprey
PlayStation 4? One of the cheapest BluRay players <:duck_sip:1103326776308019362...
should atleast have 4k with dolby vision + atmos
hollow prism
and even so they have a 4k max version of the firestick now
umbral heron
should atleast have 4k with dolby vision + atmos
Xbox One then
rough osprey
not even the series x does that
hollow prism
60$ one time purchase for pretty much every movie/show for free or spend hundreds on a blu ray player then 30-50 per disk
seems like a no brainer for me
rough osprey
bro im not cracking streaming services lol
umbral heron
Ones support Dolby Vision and Atmos
Series S and X play 4K on top of that
hollow prism
crack or not its hard to justify but its your money, use it how you'd like
ashen spindle
60$ one time purchase for pretty much every movie/show for free or spend hundred...
not paying for stuff is cheaper than paying for stuff? what a revelation 😛
umbral heron
I dunno, whole Reddit says Xbox Series can play 4K BluRays
rough osprey
why do u not want to pay for entertainment
rough osprey
I dunno, whole Reddit says Xbox Series can play 4K BluRays <:duck_sip:1103326776...
yes 4k
but not 4k dolby vision
hollow prism
why do u not want to pay for entertainment
Now that's a simple question with a simple answer lol
having to and choosing to are two very different things
umbral heron
Because entertainment nowadays is corporations squeezing as much money with as little work put in as possible 
If you want 4K HDR player, it won't be cheap, is all
hollow prism
Because entertainment nowadays is corporations squeezing as much money with as l...
nah you have to support the already multi billion dollar companies.. come on man
umbral heron
That too
hollow prism
and actors who are too rich for their own good
hollow prism
then buy it...
rough osprey
Guess i gotta do that
umbral heron
Buy it, rip it, watch it from PC, it's legal that way 
rough osprey
pc 💀
hollow prism
then return it 😂
ashen spindle
that is just piracy with extra steps then
hollow prism
whatever lets you sleep at night
rough osprey
cant someone just make a streaming service with bluray bitrate
umbral heron
cant someone just make a streaming service with bluray bitrate
They're trying their hardest to push 720p on subscribers with 4K plan, so they can cheap out on servers
And you expect them to serve BluRay bitrates
rough osprey
would still be cool
hollow prism
and im just over here bathing in all of this 1080p glory 🙂
rough osprey
just make it expensive then ig
umbral heron
Would you look at that, there 4K rip with all extras
rough osprey
you can also buy movies only
why not have them for bluray price with bluray quality
umbral heron
4:3 2880x2160 10-bit HDR color x265 encoded
5.1 audio and 2.0 commentary track
There's also 43GB remux flying around
smoky frigate
criterion is based
what I think physical media are really selling is the bonus material, and that often does not get pirated
ashamed to say I don't have that release
crisp granite
meh, most cars totalled in one scene was a more impressive record
smoky frigate
jackie dislocating his entire pelvis with that iron pole stunt is probably my favourite bit, though behind the scenes
crisp granite
meh, most cars totalled in one scene was a more impressive record
pretty sure Blues Brothers totalled a hundred cars
in one scene
the police chase
still a classic
empty wren
windows hdr looks terrible
smoky frigate
love that movie
astral haven
windows hdr looks terrible
they keep improving it, currently id say its on par with sdr
i do wish they would allow you to have it on but sdr content bypasses it
but yea for hdr you need to max brightness on the monitor, and turn down the brightness to what you want in windows settings
thats technically how its supposed to work
srgb is supposed to be 0-100 nits
hdr can be whatever it sets itself to be often 0-1000
umbral heron
Handbrake now supports NVENC/VCN AV1 encoding 🥳 And more optimizations for Apple Silicon
empty wren
they keep improving it, currently id say its on par with sdr
It makes sdr look good as of right but it could be just the OLED panel 🤷♂️
astral haven
windows hdr looks terrible
wdym then?
empty wren
Like it makes the colors look washed out and dull
astral haven
in what?
empty wren
And maybe everything looks tinted yellow
ashen spindle
are you talking about the auto hdr feature?
empty wren
Uh maybe
astral haven
this should look insane
tho if you have an oled you may need to play it in a small window otherwise itll dim your whole screen
empty wren
is this auto hdr?
astral haven
no
umbral heron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
Looks beautiful on my 1080p SDR cheapass $25 monitor
empty wren
Is this auto hdr?
rough osprey
srgb is supposed to be 0-100 nits
🤔
smoky frigate
costa ricans looking at this are going "meh, seen it"
empty wren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
Still prefer sdr for some random maybe it just pops more, or does youtube force hdr if monitor is capable?
astral haven
Still prefer sdr for some random maybe it just pops more, or does youtube force ...
take a pic of the settings button in the video
ashen spindle
if its yellow tint do you have flux or the eye saver thing in windows on maybe lol
empty wren
smoky frigate
HDR no less
empty wren
if its yellow tint do you have flux or the eye saver thing in windows on maybe l...
Nope
smoky frigate
like a really colorful postage stamp
empty wren
Maybe the colors are more warmer then I guess
umbral heron
What to look for in HDR monitors mostly?
astral haven
certification or brightness
specifically minimum brightness
any of the true black certifications are good, however it can be a pretty awful experience if your ambient is even remotely bright
astral haven
Maybe the colors are more warmer then I guess
that is likely on your monitor
umbral heron
What should I look like for minimum? 400 nits? Most of monitors I see as "HDR" are 250 nits
astral haven
yea thats lies
you either need an oled or you need the vesa displayhdr 600 rating
or better
smoky frigate
if you plan on playing games in HDR, I heard support is spotty at best
astral haven
that one is fixed
microsoft autohdr is excellent in games
the problem is that games that do support hdr you need to activate hdr first
astral haven
Hdr vs no hdr
i think you are looking at an issue with your monitor
smoky frigate
putting winders' HDR over an SDR game sounds like a flawed idea
umbral heron
I wanted to try out how Plasma 6.0 handles HDR, as most who have tried it say it looks promising
And I'll have to buy a new monitor in like half a year, so might as well go with HDR one
umbral heron
No
smoky frigate
lawl. might as well wait
empty wren
i think you are looking at an issue with your monitor
I guess I will check YouTube, I did not set it up or tweak it.
umbral heron
KDE guys implement it themselves on top of Wayland in KWin
astral haven
putting winders' HDR over an SDR game sounds like a flawed idea
welcome to hdr
the folks at xbox are currently the kings of making hdr work properly
the folks over on the windows side of the building took several years to do it, but xbox is in charge of the autohdr feature
smoky frigate
that sounds meh, from several standpoints
rough osprey
hdr without oled or local dimming is kinda bad
rough osprey
just sdr but raised
astral haven
like discrete led or something
astral haven
that sounds meh, from several standpoints
again look at xbox
the best device to get for hdr is an xbox
the troublesome part is the conversion from sdr to hdr
and xbox understands that part
and microsoft has mostly fixed it, however it actually depends on the monitor
and you just need to make sure to set this setting correctly
smoky frigate
automatic conversion from SDR to HDR sounds iffy. wouldn't that fuck with the artistic vision?
umbral heron
KDE guys implement it themselves on top of Wayland in KWin
For once I'm surprised KDE guys did something before Gnome, HDR support in Mutter is experimental at best, while in KWin it's going to be ready in a few weeks
Still, I believe Volvo does best with HDR in gamescope, given they're so certain they have released Deck OLED already
astral haven
automatic conversion from SDR to HDR sounds iffy. wouldn't that fuck with the ar...
lol
you dont understand how color works i presume
every time you change mediums, you have a transformation to do
sensor to digital you have 1 transform, and digital to monitor you have another
the problem is that if you leave it up to the monitor (which is how sdr works) you really have no control over anything
with hdr, there is at least a way to choose exactly how your image is displayed
now most monitors tended to ignore that in the past, and would pick a random one of the 3 hdr standards to support
now tho basically everyone has standardized on hdr10 for general content, and dolby vision for DRM content
rough osprey
does autohdr have any calibration
thick elk
For once I'm surprised KDE guys did something before Gnome, HDR support in Mutte...
How are you surprised, I mean KDE is backed by Valve and has been generally faster implementing new Wayland things than Gnome.
rough osprey
for the tonemapping?
smoky frigate
so it's more accurate. I guess I'll know if I like it when I see SDR content autoconverted to HDR. my feeling is it's not gonna look right
astral haven
does autohdr have any calibration
thats up to your monitor
but it does perform the same conversion that the xbox does
umbral heron
How are you surprised, I mean KDE is backed by Valve and has been generally fast...
KDE is backed by Valve for not that long, and Gnome guys usually delivered final results way before KDE, sure KDE was first to start, but Gnome was first to finish nevertheless
thick elk
Also hdr on kde is going to be a pretty bare-bones implementation at the start
umbral heron
Hmm... Do 23~24" 1080p monitors with vesa displayhdr 600... even exist? Couldn't find any on vesa's website
thick elk
The final protocol should basically have the compositor know the color output of every display and map everything to srgb by default unless the content asks to be rendered in a different color space, then map the color / brightess to that.
astral haven
Easier said than done lel
umbral heron
so 1000 and 1400 are also fine
Yeah... There ain't any in there too, smallest I could find are 27"
astral haven
Yeah... There ain't any in there too, smallest I could find are 27"
Not a surprise
Adding a ton of leds is expensive and large
Also apple has a few key patents apparently?
umbral heron
Bummer
Time to go with 1440p 27" I guess
astral haven
I'd recommend getting a nice 4k rather than bad hdr tho
Cause 600 is the minimum
Doesn't mean it'll be great
umbral heron
So they can stuff 4K into 27" but not 1080p in 23" 
astral haven
Not with great hdr
But they can make normal monitors that are good
https://a.co/d/2004COU
Here's some true hdr tho
Innocn makes some bangers
umbral heron
Acer XV275U, 1440p 27", hdr1000 and not that bad of a price
astral haven
hardy idol
rtings would slaughter my monitor tbh
umbral heron
I will still use it at 60Hz tops
reef patrol
Hi, I'm Abby from Ratings dot com
Yeah no. You're from Arrtings. Sorry. Y'all picked a dumbass name, and what it says.
astral haven
Acer XV275U, 1440p 27", hdr1000 and not that bad of a price <:thonk:568526682110...
Wait where does it say hdr1000?
You sure that's not for the more expensive model?
astral haven
Far, for very little content
But it's still yikes for hdr which is what we were talking about
hardy idol
it's as wide as my desk tho lmao
for hdr yeah it
isn't great
mainly the aspect ratio is convenient but other than that it's
astral haven
Just get a 48 inch full size tv, it's the same price these days for (most of) twice the area
hardy idol
would scale games differently
hardy idol
No this is super convenient
for racing etc
but also
for workflow
and
actually it's very nice in amongus
because while you can't see the people from a certain distance
you could see vents open and close xd
but about hdr i don't really have a good hdr device
rough osprey
hdr is overrated
ashen spindle
ehh that's depending on the content I'd say
It's been absolutely amazing for me so far in most games
ashen spindle
well yeah hdr looking amazing doesnt mean sdr is looking shit
astral haven
Hdr is highly underrated simply because of how awful our cameras are at recording data and how even more awful our monitors are at displaying it
rough osprey
and kinda how compressed data is for streaming video
although i don't think more peak brightness = more better
(compared to what we have now)
astral haven
I've been talking with a dev and he proved me that the compression isn't really the problem
I thought it was but he was showing me actual serious differences even via youtube
astral haven
although i don't think more peak brightness = more better
It's not about the more is better
It's about the capability of the dynamic range
If a display could show 20k:1 contrast at only 100 nits in a ambient light room, then sure let's go
The problem is that oled and lcd both reflect light from the environment, so you need massively more than 100 nits to hit the target of 20k:1
rough osprey
why do darker areas still look so bad on yt and streaming sites
astral haven
And lcd is alot worse since it also has global bleed issues
A nice va with a ton of zones can be pretty good, but you still get poor contrast
rough osprey
It's not about the more is better
It's about the capability of the dynamic range...
ye but that just sounds annoying af
astral haven
why do darker areas still look so bad on yt and streaming sites
Well that one is a limitation of 8 bits linear
rough osprey
i don't what most areas of a frame be at a couple hundred nits
astral haven
?
rough osprey
sounds like the solution to the dynamic range problem is a increase in brightness from what you are saying
astral haven
Nope
Its only helpful to increase brightness if your minimum brightness stays the same
Va is fantastic, 1/4 the minimum brightness of a standard lcd at the same max
Same for miniled, except miniled can go a bit further, or be poorly implemented and be completely useless
Like there are 10k nit field monitors that are awful for hdr
They are only nice because they overpower the ambient light so you get to use 100% of their dynamic range
rough osprey
does va not reflect light or whats your point
astral haven
No it just stops light better compared to ips or tn
rough osprey
and compared to oled?
astral haven
It still has the same reflectance problem, and has alot worse minimum brightness
My 2k nit va has about the same contrast ratio as my 400 nit oled (both peak numbers)
rough osprey
In general, the only problem i have with modern media on an oled are the dark areas
rough osprey
so how do we fix this
astral haven
Here's how our eyes see light
umbral heron
Logarithmic brightness would do the trick?
More colours in dark areas, less in brighter ones
astral haven
Bingo
Here's the competing hdr Standards
With the sdr to hdr conversion in green
Hlg is a dead standard that now every fkn camera supports recording in for some reason
Pq is hdr10/bt2020
rough osprey
what does code value mean in this
astral haven
The number you put in the file/send to the monitor
rough osprey
ah
astral haven
Like 0-255 for sdr
rough osprey
what's the reason for this
umbral heron
Now I really want to try to run CS2 in HDR and throw myself flashbang into the face
astral haven
what's the reason for this
Wdym
umbral heron
8 bits = 0-255
10 bits = 0-1023
ashen spindle
astral haven
Your eyes see more detail at lower values, and srgb doesn't record relative to that
ashen spindle
ln2 oc in half an hour-ish
rough osprey
looks like 0 and 64 is essentially the same
astral haven
It's not
astral haven
In general, the only problem i have with modern media on an oled are the dark ar...
The difference is there just doesn't show up on a graph
But you can see it
vagrant pagoda
your eyes are super sensative at low light levels
astral haven
Not really
umbral heron
astral haven
But double the light at low brightness is seen as the same change to your eye as double the light in high brightness
misty saffron
astral haven
Are you sure that's ML?
ashen spindle
the empty spot in the water green stood out more to me
astral haven
That looks basically like content aware fill which is a classical algorithm
umbral heron
rough osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9j89L8eQQk
so ideally yt and all would be 10bit (hdr)
but without going hard on the Brightness
to atleast make it a bit better
astral haven
You would want to set the brightness to be what it really is
umbral heron
Ideally we'd want for brightness to be logarithmic, since we perceive relative changes better
That's why those standards #🔌│tech message dedicate so much of available values for dark areas
astral haven
Hdr generally just means log encoding
rough osprey
i would like having the 10bit benefits but still only going to like 100nits
astral haven
Not in the recorded footagd
rough osprey
so it doesn't "look" hdr
astral haven
You can set the brightness of the output all you want
But you want all the data encoded still so you have the option of viewing it
rough osprey
viewing hdr stuff now but going low on tv brightness does look a bit weird
astral haven
Oh, I see what you mean. You are confusing HDR, the picture effect with HDR, the color encoding.
umbral heron
hdr stuff on sdr monitor with improper colour correction is always fun
Blacks are gray-ish, whites are beige and colours are washed out
astral haven
Because there is also the picture effect where you take multiple pictures, grab the high brightness areas from one shot, grab the middle brightness areas from a second shot, and grab the low brightness areas from a third, and then just squishing them all together.
rough osprey
im not talking about that
astral haven
What content are you talking about then
rough osprey
can u set certain brightness values when editing hdr
or is it all just relative to the rest
astral haven
You can edit in absolute brightness, and it's highly recommended
Same image with sdr scopes
rough osprey
Is normal hdr10 able to tell the screen to showcase a certain segment in a certain brightness
:/
astral haven
Hdr 10 can as well
rough osprey
yt doesn't use that or
astral haven
It's up to the content creator
rough osprey
like ideally i would want my tv to be at max brightness when viewing hdr content
astral haven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
See here
rough osprey
if it would be the standard for everything
but the content creator would probably have most things above 100nits
astral haven
and you just need to make sure to set this setting correctly
That's what this slider is for
astral haven
but the content creator would probably have most things above 100nits
Just because people are incompetent doesn't mean the actual tech is bad
rough osprey
ye im not saying that
astral haven
And most people do it correctly
The target for hdr is 200 nits = pure white, anything above that is shiny or light sources
rough osprey
hmm
its just that most hdr content (not movies and such) on yt is just super bright in everything
i think yt shorts had hdr at some point and it was kinda annoying
astral haven
Yep because bright things shiny
But there's very very little actual hdr content at the moment
rough osprey
so could we replace sdr with a 10bit version that has some sort of brightness lock closely to sdr xD
rough osprey
no problem on tvs
astral haven
no problem on tvs
It's actually pretty awful on most tvs btw
rough osprey
im happy with ma c1 :D
astral haven
Pretty sure your c1 has some serious glitches when it comes to brightness
astral haven
Speaking of light
Look at my new toy lel
rough osprey
oh no
astral haven
I got it, the incredible disaster
rough osprey
whats the range
vagrant pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU179_czCnU
live
astral haven
God won't save you here lol
final flame
I can do a better manual job at that
final flame
That looks basically like content aware fill which is a classical algorithm
Except content aware fill gives control to the user for parameters and places to sample from
Lol
final flame
Idk bub
Seems odd that there's 3 rocks all placed in a line all on a very similar looking pile of sand
rough osprey
the wind...
mild dome
That multilens camera reminded me of those funny Lytro cameras, pretty clever tech allowed you to change focus AFTER snapping a picture. Too expensive for what you got though
astral haven
You mean this lytro camera? 😛
also yes the light can also refocus after taking the picture
unlike the lytro it can take video
so im hoping i can sideload a custom camera app and use it without the multilens nonsense
the lytro is very locked down and painful to deal with, the light is supposedly somewhat manageable
but i wont find out until this charges up
mild dome
You managed to get the big Lytro too, they were selling the smaller rectangular versions at a nearby store ages ago
astral haven
yea the small one while cool wasnt too interesting for me
soneone was working on actually removing the lens array and converting it back into a normal camera
it has a 40 megapixel sensor and a constant f2 lens
but i havent seen updates on that :/
boreal kiln
not long now i guess
crisp granite
<a:PausersHype:1158269442392854549> not long now i guess
HYPE
let me know how it is
boreal kiln
as far as i know it isnt
rough osprey
never will
boreal kiln
there are others who have copied the design of the zeromouse
then you have what i think is the original person who created this style https://www.reddit.com/user/Different-Title-424/submitted/
16g m2k
severe phoenix
Ok so we got the ROG Ally, the Lenuvo Legion Go and the Steam Deck. Where is the Wooting handheld PC?
hidden quest
Speaking of light
Look at my new toy lel
What is the Brand , I interested with it
astral haven
dont bother lel
but its the light L16
its a complete disaster
buy a sony rx100 iii and youll be 10x happier
hidden quest
You mean this lytro camera? 😛
And this is lyto camera right ? This one is fixed with camera lenses like Rx 100viii ?
hidden quest
buy a sony rx100 iii and youll be 10x happier
Yeah I somehow interested on the design , since I haven't see this kind of camera before
astral haven
the lytro is also a disaster
it has a fixed lens kind of like the rx100 but its atrocious to use
hidden quest
Is nice to check it out
hidden quest
the lytro is also a disaster
it has a fixed lens kind of like the rx100 but its ...
How much is the focal length and also f point
astral haven
of the lytro?
hidden quest
If the mm is perfect , fixed lenses is also bearable
hidden quest
of the lytro?
Yes!
astral haven
its the equivalent of 30-250 f5.4
hidden quest
This kind of camera feat My taste
astral haven
it doesnt take pictures
hidden quest
Because changing lenses is not a fun experience
astral haven
it takes holographs
hidden quest
Oh I see
astral haven
very solid
what do you have now?
hidden quest
Not a expert users , so something like a7c ii will be my Best dream camera
hidden quest
very solid
what do you have now?
Currently I use phone , which is sad , sometimes phone is Good but sometimes not
hidden quest
Yeah , one of the reason I plan for a camera is because , in the future I Will create tons of content using camera
hidden quest
well depending on the phone
what phone?
Old phone (s10e) , but is solid enough if the light is enough
astral haven
highly recommend getting a more normal camera before jumping straight into the ILC life
hidden quest
My next phone Will be xiaomi 13t pro
That camera is good and is cheap also
Also for the future when I don't bring cameras
Since u r not always have ur cameras with
hidden quest
highly recommend getting a more normal camera before jumping straight into the I...
Yeah a6600 ?
astral haven
definetly
might want to consider the ultra or the 14 tho
the cameras on the 13U are incredible
hidden quest
This is a suitable entry ?
astral haven
Yeah a6600 ?
no like a cheap fixed lens camera like the rx100
astral haven
i mean the current model is relatively expensive, but the older models are sometimes better for cheaper
hidden quest
Compared to the actual mirroles camera
hidden quest
i mean the current model is relatively expensive, but the older models are somet...
Oh u suggest me getting the old one
mild dome
Lytro did at one point make a 40K camera, but uhhh
https://m.dpreview.com/news/6720444400/lytro-cinema-impresses-large-crowd-with-prototype-755mp-light-field-video-camera-at-nab
hidden quest
astral haven
Lytro did at one point make a 40K camera, but uhhh
https://m.dpreview.com/news/6...
citation needed on them actually making it lel
hidden quest
Does the Rx 100 does the job ? I afraid the sensor is small and will effect the overall quality
Since pocket size stuff got a lot of letdown on features
(if u get what I mean)
astral haven
its substantially better than phones for both photo and video
astral haven
in the 6 they switched to a dimmer but further zooming lens, so id recommend the 5 or earlier, although the extreme zoom is nice
the 4 was the first to shoot 4k, but its really not nescessary to get 4k on these cams, its still a fine addition
theres also the rx10 but thats incredibly expensive
hidden quest
Oh
astral haven
small sensor insane lens
astral haven
yea its an insane camera
hidden quest
U tried it ?
astral haven
yep
hidden quest
What mm that camera had ?
astral haven
24-600
mild dome
Maybe check for a used one? Used devices in these sort of interests tends to save a lot, is this the same with cameras?
astral haven
Maybe check for a used one? Used devices in these sort of interests tends to sav...
this is all used
the pricing on these cameras is incredible
i have a 18-300 for my a7iv and the rx10 iv absolutely runs circles around it
https://www.flickr.com/groups/sony_rx10_iv/pool/
sample pics from the rx10 iv
hidden quest
i have a 18-300 for my a7iv and the rx10 iv absolutely runs circles around it
But the thing is 30 to 600mm
And that lens feels compact
mild dome
Sounds like it uses up a TB SD card in 4 shots
hidden quest
I mean rx10
astral haven
Sounds like it uses up a TB SD card in 4 shots
what?
astral haven
And that lens feels compact
its half the weight of my setup
my mom is the one who uses the rx10, i have an a7iv
hidden quest
I somehow think that , this camera is an all rounder
astral haven
yep
hidden quest
Animal photography confirm no problem ?
astral haven
the rx10 is by far the best animal camera for walking around
hidden quest
Street photography is OK I guess ?
astral haven
its highly competitive with the 200-600 and the 150-600s in terms of image quality
but look up the weight of those lel
hidden quest
I remember high focal length is Good for architecture photography ?
astral haven
Street photography is OK I guess ?
its definetly not a discrete camera, rx10 is better for that
hidden quest
Like u can capture the building lines ?
astral haven
I remember high focal length is Good for architecture photography ?
what
hidden quest
Ummm let me show u , I am not Good for explaining something
astral haven
high focal lengths means you have to be very very very far from the building to see the whole thing
its good but incredibly inconvenient
astral haven
define closer
hidden quest
Yeah I guess u r right !
boreal kiln
I remember high focal length is Good for architecture photography ?
the focal length thats great for architecture depends on the look you're going for
hidden quest
I will wish list that one if I want to get that camera in future
astral haven
the focal length thats great for architecture depends on the look you're going ...
this
hidden quest
600mm is like 25x on a phone camera
Tru
boreal kiln
granted a lot of architecture photographers like using tilt shift lens
astral haven
if you can take the photo with your phone and want it better, the rx10 can do that
it cant do special effects like that
hidden quest
the focal length thats great for architecture depends on the look you're going ...
I prefer 2 ways to capture the building if I want to architecture photography
-
The focal length is wide and can capture the highlighted buildings
-
Capture the texture on buildings
astral haven
granted a lot of architecture photographers like using tilt shift lens
yea gotta do that if you want both high resolution and perfectly straight lines
rx10 or 100 is high enough res that you can generally just take the photo zoomed out and crop in post
cause you have to align the focal plane with the building, and if you are on the ground that means that half of your image is going to be ground
unless you want to correct in post
dealing with lens shifting is an immense pain tho
hidden quest
Oh means that u will having hard time when u capture it on floor ?
Ummm , a new knowledge for me , care to explain ? What is lens shifting
boreal kiln
captured with the standard lens on a phone which i think is normally 24mm equiv these days
hidden quest
captured with the standard lens on a phone which i think is normally 24mm equiv ...
Man this one is Good
Wish I can do that too
astral haven
yep between 23 and 28 generally
boreal kiln
this is with a gopro hero 5
hidden quest
When u crop the quality lost
astral haven
Wish I can do that too
take more pictures with the phone
your phone is pretty solid already
hidden quest
At least for my old phone
astral haven
crop with your feet
hidden quest
Uhhh
boreal kiln
ricoh gr2 which is 28mm equiv
hidden quest
this is with a gopro hero 5
🤔
astral haven
but also if you do want zoom
get a phone with a telephoto lens
hidden quest
ricoh gr2 which is 28mm equiv
Nice !
astral haven
i like the s21u but its locked from 3rd party apps
13 ultra is fully unlocked
hidden quest
but also if you do want zoom
get a phone with a telephoto lens
Yeah but a lot of them is relying on digital ?
astral haven
just get one with the right lens
hidden quest
Seen a lot of comparison , most of them are worse when zoom
boreal kiln
50mm
boreal kiln
theres no right lens or focal length
hidden quest
I see , ur capture I like it so much
hidden quest
just get one with the right lens
Ok!
astral haven
completely wiffed this shot
boreal kiln
200mm
astral haven
this one wasnt bad
hidden quest
this one wasnt bad
Was Good with my perspective
boreal kiln
17mm
hidden quest
The colour is nice to look at
boreal kiln
U r architecture photographer?
nah 
boreal kiln
what do you mean ?
hidden quest
nah <a:nope:1133075673049747536>
I see so u capture everything that u find it interesting
boreal kiln
mostly ye
hidden quest
what do you mean ?
I mean my opinion will be straight forward
So I was asking u care about someone giving their honest opinion or not
hidden quest
completely wiffed this shot
Imagine u can captured well that "Bird"?
astral haven
is it a selfie if its just my shadow?
hidden quest
Motion stuff is hard , since is not as Easy as u capture the things that is immovable
boreal kiln
the main thing i enjoy photographing is street/travel
hidden quest
is it a selfie if its just my shadow?
Can't see it
hidden quest
the main thing i enjoy photographing is street/travel
Oh , street photography
astral haven
Imagine u can captured well that "Bird"?
wouldnt have been great either way
i was hoping to get the bird and the moon at the same time, but i messed up the shutter, the aperture, and this lens is too slow to focus on moving targets
hidden quest
I haven't see travel photography yet so don't know what it is , But Street photography I like it
astral haven
wouldnt have been great either way
i was hoping to get the bird and the moon at ...
90% user error tho
hidden quest
wouldnt have been great either way
i was hoping to get the bird and the moon at ...
I see! It will be insane if u achieve it
boreal kiln
photography using a 50mm lens
astral haven
the ef 50-100 on sony is just not a good combination
hidden quest
Not gonna lie , u guys are experience , for me still a long way to learn about photography
astral haven
heres with my 300mm lens
hidden quest
astral haven
cannot tell you how hard it is to manually focus on the moon with a canon lens meant for birds
hidden quest
heres with my 300mm lens
Wow , 300mm looks close
boreal kiln
Not gonna lie , u guys are experience , for me still a long way to learn about p...
iv been taking photos for so long now tbh
hidden quest
Oh , I see
boreal kiln
moon shot
hidden quest
iv been taking photos for so long now tbh
I see
astral haven
yeee
photography is 90% taking bad pictures and having them not turn out well
this was a superzoom from my phone that i thought was kinda dramatic but it just didnt look like i imagined it
here i tried to get both at the same time, but this was far too dark for this camera, with a far too wide lens
this is about a 4x crop
astral haven
here i tried to get both at the same time, but this was far too dark for this ca...
alot better than my phone managed lel
astral haven
^ key part here
just grabbing the best allaround camera will work, but its over 2 grand with no lens
boreal kiln
nah you can get started pretty well for $1k usd
as a general all round setup
granted you're not getting any super tele lens at that price
astral haven
Tbh I wanna get a7c ii if possible
its not a bad choice but its incredibly expensive
boreal kiln
but it will serve you well
hidden quest
photography is 90% taking bad pictures and having them not turn out well
this wa...
Yeah is so relatable , I was lien that when I taking photos using phone , 100 of photos only 2 or 3 photos that suitable for my edits (photo art)
astral haven
i have an a7iv which is actually just a a7c2 with 2 sd slots instead of 1 and its an incredible camera but holy mackerel is everything expensive
boreal kiln
no one gets 100% keepers when taking photos
hardy idol
heya heya
astral haven
highly recommend upgrading the phone with software before getting new hardware or even getting a camera at all
hardy idol
phone?
astral haven
gcam mods, mcpro24fps etc
hardy idol
what are we trying to do today
astral haven
after successfully convincing this dude to not buy the joke cameras i bought as purely collection peices, we were trying to find out what would actually be good for them
boreal kiln
i also say buy the thing you want since you will enjoy it
and if you enjoy it you will actually use it
instead of collecting dust
boreal kiln
but also be aware of how heavy some camera and lens combos get they're deff not fun to carry around
astral haven
^
boreal kiln
even if its awesome to use
astral haven
i really love the 50-100 but its pretty annoying
raw zephyr
just buy a pixel or iphone for photos =D
astral haven
current pixel maybe
boreal kiln
and then if you're like a lot of people that do photography you end up going down the camera bag rabbit hole 
hidden quest
<@363965809736810497> so what kind of photography do you want to do?
I prefer diverse , I like all kind of photography but if u wanna say , I like this kind of style more
I use two pictures (I captured from phone) and combine it into this
astral haven
the new one is pretty unlocked
interesting
yea that definetly doesnt need a monster of a camera
boreal kiln
I prefer diverse , I like all kind of photography but if u wanna say , I like th...
how good is your editing skills ?
boreal kiln
just buy a pixel or iphone for photos =D
if you cant take a good photo with a modern smartphone no fancy camera is going to help at that point
astral haven
you might want to get like the rx10 6 because it gives you a ton more zoom, however i really say just spend more on the phone
xiaomi 13 ultra is incredible for photos and video, and and its got a bit better hardware than the pixel
pixel probably the better all around choice
hidden quest
how good is your editing skills ?
Ignore the high grainy u see , this is a mistake I made and I don't have time to fix it , I will fix it if I have time
Is this what u mean the editing skills ?
boreal kiln
i mean at that point its more graphic design work then photography
astral haven
if you cant take a good photo with a modern smartphone no fancy camera is going ...
well if you are trying to take video moonlit, a fancy camera will help
astral haven
i mean at that point its more graphic design work then photography
yea lol
boreal kiln
well if you are trying to take video moonlit, a fancy camera will help
true but thats going to be a costly setup
hidden quest
just buy a pixel or iphone for photos =D
Pixel got ai advantage , pixel didn't scale with the sensor instead they relying on software
astral haven
true but thats going to be a costly setup
i mean the a7c2 will do a great job
astral haven
Pixel got ai advantage , pixel didn't scale with the sensor instead they relying...
except on the 8 pro they threw everything at it
its got a monster of a telephoto, a monster of a wide/macro, and a huge main shooter
hardy idol
@astral haven
it's not unlikely tht the optane arrives today
boreal kiln
i mean the a7c2 will do a great job
still going to need a fast lens unless you like a lot of grain or having to go heavy on NR
astral haven
not as big as the xiaomi but its definetly solid
astral haven
still going to need a fast lens unless you like a lot of grain or having to go h...
fast lenses are cheap
fast lenses with autofocus or sharpness? no but eh
hidden quest
i mean at that point its more graphic design work then photography
Yes , this is how I changed after a few years , I more toward using camera capture some photos and turn them into different things , but , this is one of my style, I personally prefer diverse , I not just only like graphics design , I csn say I like all the stuff that related to art
astral haven
yea definetly better to just get a better phone
boreal kiln
fast lenses are cheap
fast lenses with autofocus or sharpness? no but eh
ya the nifty fifty is cheap
hidden quest
So photography is in my list
boreal kiln
im talking more 1.4 and faster
hidden quest
I mean pure photography
boreal kiln
while actually being useable and not needing to be stopped down to get a clear image
astral haven
eh you can get the shot even if the lens isnt that sharp
