🔌│tech

[hardy idol]

lol

[smoky frigate]

I don't see the harm in a thin layer of spray paint as long as you don't paint over contact points obviously

[hardy idol]

@prisma crag opinions on corsair ram

what if i paint a black set white

because you said theres no fast white sets

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1986644/corsair-dominator-titanium-rgb-cmp32gx5m2b6400c32w/specificaties/

actually

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1990408/corsair-dominator-titanium-rgb-cmp32gx5m2x6600c32w.html

this one makes it to 6600 i guess?

oh theres a 7200 set too

well

select a nice black kit

ill paint it

i guess

but why cope when can paint

like its probably pretty easy to paint

[hardy idol]

i think these are sleeker

maybe i wont bother with painting them ill see

kinda depends on how itll look

but you dont think 6400 CL32 would work?

ugh

[dreamy tendon]

Do their dies even clock well? I haven't seen them using any Hynix dies for ddr5

[hardy idol]

why cant they just

[astral haven]

they had the only guaranteed 32gbit micron 😦

back in the ddr4 days

[hardy idol]

https://www.eteknix.com/corsair-dominator-titanium-7200-mhz-48gb-ddr5-memory-review/3/

they opened one up

[astral haven]

literally double the gskill gamble sticks i bought tho

[astral haven]

dominator usually is double the price of alternatives tho they sometimes dont swap dies

[dreamy tendon]

It has a limited supply

Yeah gonna be a pretty penny

[hardy idol]

eh

not a problem tbh

just

if good then good

[dreamy tendon]

it just looks like it's there for looks, i don't think the bin itself is anything special

[hardy idol]

yeah but

if its good then

its good?

so

but aside from that

should i just

buy a kit, open em up

if hynix i keep em else i put em back together nicely and send em back

[misty saffron]

no fucking way, apple in their infinite wisdom made ctrl + left/right the previous/next track hotkeys

you know what else is ctrl + left/right?

[dreamy tendon]

u can usually tell which dies they are depending on the clocks, timings, and voltage for xmp profile

but i wouldn't know off the top of my head

[misty saffron]

at least the hotkeys aren't fucking global

[dreamy tendon]

i believe some of the T-create dimms use hynix A dies

i got a 64g kit with A-die, was a 6000 cl48-48-48-96 1.25v bin

the 32gig kit with the same profile should be the same

[hardy idol]

Corsair Dominator Titanium RGB CMP32GX5M2B6400C32W

[zenith silo]

Ram is so beyond me, what the fuck does this even mean

[hardy idol]

what can we tell from this one

[dreamy tendon]

i wouldn't know, their site doesn't provide timing info

[hardy idol]

https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/p/memory/cmp32gx5m2b6400c32w/dominator-titanium-rgb-2x16gb-ddr5-dram-6400mt-s-cl32-intel-xmp-memory-kit-white-cmp32gx5m2b6400c32w#tab-techspecs

[zenith silo]

Is Corsair vengeance bad

[hardy idol]

not as far as i know

but

the people here

[zenith silo]

I have 4x8 of 3600mhz and I can't even run it at 3600

[hardy idol]

have more knowledge

[dreamy tendon]

A-die refers to SK Hynix A-die ram chips, and i just typed out the xmp profile for those sticks

[zenith silo]

5800x3d b550f, they blue screen if I go above 5466mhz

[hardy idol]

what timing

[dreamy tendon]

primary timings

[hardy idol]

this is what they give you

[dreamy tendon]

i see the SPD timings

but i'm not sure if that's what's on the profile

so confusing

could just be base timings with no profile

[astral haven]

well if they dont commit, they can swap out the dies later -_-

[zenith silo]

Could anyone maybe give me a few reasons why my ram won't run at full speed without blue screening

When it comes to ram I know nothing other than set the speed in bios

[hardy idol]

explain, im curious what this is uh

like how does this affect stuff

[dreamy tendon]

I wouldn't be able to give a good response but I would say timings determine how frequently your ram performs its operations. I would argue timings matter more than frequency to an extent

[hardy idol]

so, not ideal to gamble on

[dreamy tendon]

You're gambling regardless

[hardy idol]

oh

[dreamy tendon]

Cuz silicon quality affects the primary timings the most, which is what u see the most in the spec sheet

[hardy idol]

mhm

[dreamy tendon]

But they don't matter as much when it comes to performance

[hardy idol]

so just, order then I guess

[dreamy tendon]

Your secondaries and tertiary timings are much more important

[hardy idol]

huh

[dreamy tendon]

I'd just suggest buying a kit of Hynix a/m dies and copy buildzoid's am5 easy timings

It's a video on YouTube but I don't remember the title

His timings should work if u have right dies

And they're pretty much free performance

[hardy idol]

pfft this

okay right so

[stray heart]

guys how do i use the f1 buttons on the wooting 60 he nordic

[hardy idol]

how do we know this

[hardy idol]

fn + number row

[stray heart]

ik but it wont work

[ashen spindle]

https://wooting.io/quickstart read what the box it comes with links you to

[stray heart]

is it a setting

that you have turn on?

[ashen spindle]

read the guide

[dreamy tendon]

Like I said earlier, u check the xmp profile. The dies have certain characteristics that tell them apart

[hardy idol]

xmp profile, where do i find that. or can you only check once theyre here

[dreamy tendon]

But u would need to ask some overclocking forum cuz I don't remember what they are off the top of my head

The page itself should advertise the XMP profile because that's what they primarily advertise

The 6000mhz speeds u see aren't what they run at on stock

[hardy idol]

uh pff

[hardy idol]

so

3.0 here, but not enough info to determine actual things?

[dreamy tendon]

The problem with that is I don't know what the timings are for the XMP profile

Cuz they aren't specific

God it's so hard typing with autocorrect

[hardy idol]

so if i ask corsair helpdesk or

[dreamy tendon]

https://a.co/d/dADvUX7

That's the kit I have

Which is pretty much guaranteed to be Hynix a die

[hardy idol]

they look good ngl I would buy those

[dreamy tendon]

See how they list 6000mhz cl48-48-48-96

The CL at the end is the timings for the XMP profile

[hardy idol]

theyre literally the grey version of the ones i liked

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APJAQoSCwuA
This is kinda neat; Beatles back to #1 on the charts 60 years after their first go at it, thanks to film tech and Peter Jackson

[dreamy tendon]

The 32gb kit with same speed and timings should also be A die as well

I would just suggest u get that kit cuz they're pretty good in terms of value

[hardy idol]

white ones arent available here sadly

[dreamy tendon]

https://a.co/d/4g13RTH

Same bin just different capacity

[hardy idol]

where are you located

other side of the pond im guessing

because they wont send it here

[dreamy tendon]

Yeah, but u can search up the model number for pricing near you

[hardy idol]

they dont have em yet

ill have to bribe you

[smoky frigate]

"please choose to live somewhere else, thank you"

[hardy idol]

https://www.amazon.nl/TEAMGROUP-T-Create-Overklokken-PC5-48000-Geheugenmodule/dp/B0BPHRGLSH/

they offer these but theyre 6000

[hardy idol]

I need to move yeah

or need to bribe R35 to forward a package

ah yes

lian-li website moment

[reef patrol]

Apparently a lot of Shopify storefronts are down rn

https://www.shopifystatus.com/incidents

[hardy idol]

ahh okay

hello Mansen!

[reef patrol]

[hardy idol]

how ar ya

[crisp granite]

same kit I have

just with worse timings

[hardy idol]

@reef patrol \

[dreamy tendon]

That looks like A die to me

Could give it a shot

6000mhz is good enough rn anyways

[hardy idol]

@reef patrol is it not, that I first came in contact with you in NZXT server?

[hardy idol]

ugh I guess I'll do it

[crisp granite]

...woah

Solidigm for the win

cheap SSDs

[umbral heron]

So Intel with slapped new logo?

[crisp granite]

iirc, Ryzen 7000 don't benefit from RAM faster than 6000 mHz
it's tighter timings that matter at that point

[reef patrol]

NZXT or... uhh... EK?

If I had to guess.

[vagrant pagoda]

Zen doesn't benefit much over 1:1 unless you crank it to 11

[hardy idol]

NZXT I was never in EK

[vagrant pagoda]

Dram is double data rate, and 3000 flck is fast for am5

[hardy idol]

I never had EK money

[hardy idol]

do you still converse with NZXT people

[blazing crescent]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5322836/files
would this work as a keyboard plate for the funny 60%?
Im thinking of 3d printing it

[hardy idol]

how is their quality nowadays

[vagrant pagoda]

If you can push fclk you can benefit from faster ram

[hardy idol]

I'm dubbing between a Kraken Z73 or an H150i with the screen from corsair

[vagrant pagoda]

Intel scales much better with straight memory frequency

[reef patrol]

Naw. I jumped ship from the moderation team when it started getting uh... weird. And never had a reason to return relaly.

[hardy idol]

and i kinda am not a corsair fan but their products do often look good

[blazing crescent]

i see on the official keyboard plate these a little bit of difference compared to this

[old marlin]

would be way too flexy for a wooting lol

[hardy idol]

fair, i was banned at one point for saying smth like fuck or shit

[reef patrol]

I still wear my super comfy NZXT hoodie though.

[hardy idol]

yknow that fase right

where they went full on we wanna be a server for 5 year olds so no swearwords in the slightest

thats where i got the hammer

[blazing crescent]

even if i print it out of polycarbonate?

[hardy idol]

Does anyone have experience with current NZXT AIO and the software?

[old marlin]

yea

flexibility of FDM printed stuff is WAY higher than injection molded stuff

[blazing crescent]

ouch, alright then.

[hardy idol]

is it weird if i want a pc to intake from the rear and bottom and exhaust out the front and top?

[dreamy tendon]

It's your PC, u do what u want with it

[reef patrol]

As long as your GPU is not cooled the opposite way? No problem?

[hardy idol]

okay so

[reef patrol]

A lot of those are back blowing.

[hardy idol]

I fonud this NV7 build

that I really really like

But I felt it would make more sense if it worked the opposite way?

and no my videocard will be straight

i actually really like the backplate

I know I sound weird but this is better than looking at the fans

[hardy idol]

the main reason is

he mounted his radiator on the vertical spot

tubes down

and i dont feel like bringing in hot air

uh wait, if i mount the videocard straight to the board then those tubes cant run there anyway

i guess ill go think about it some more

[dreamy tendon]

Looks like the radiator has outside air being sucked through it. Top and back is exhaust. Bottom is intake

[hardy idol]

yeah ill have a similar setup

but my gpu wont be there

and im thinking

combine this basically

or rather

just put the radiator at the top of the air config

and not 4 fans on the side/front

[hardy idol]

these are the OG unifans

they look so much better than the new ones

these are the new ones

old

thin strips are 10x better

oooh

@astral haven you still here

the SSD thing

I was looking, kinda defaulting to 990 Pro 2TB

but

is that really still a drive you can default to or are there better options

(and no optane)

Maybe if I decide to go full windows, I might obtain an Optane

[astral haven]

It's fineish,

Needs firmware updates before use

[hardy idol]

ah

what about

firecude 530

[astral haven]

Basically all the flagship tlc ssds are the same, can check reddit to see how often they are failing

if you want fast you get optane, if you dont want optane, it really doesnt matter as long as its a real tlc drive

[hardy idol]

These would be the options here for Optane

[astral haven]

thats new

optane got discontinued, you have to go used

search for the 900p or 905p 280gb or 480gb

[hardy idol]

ah

[astral haven]

depending on your options, a p4800x may be cheaper, but they are all pretty much identical except 905p has pretty lights

[hardy idol]

theres a 900P 280GB for sale for 135 eur

[astral haven]

sounds about right

there are 2 versions of the 900p
the u.2 and the pcie
the u.2 requires a $10 adapter to use in your pc probably

[hardy idol]

its pcie

[astral haven]

nice

aint gonna be using it for mass storage but thats a pretty reasonable price

it was $1/gb a year ago

[cursive summit]

Holy moly

H100 suddenly obsolete lol

[ashen spindle]

nah thats just marketing

[astral haven]

wow its almost like a llm too big for the gpu performs better the closer it gets to actually filling the gpu

[ashen spindle]

slides that show performance for one task, not even for one area is always just marketing

[astral haven]

175b is a 350GB model, none of the smaller gpus got anywhere near enough memory for that

even with sparsity

[hardy idol]

nice Y axis lol

[hardy idol]

so

just as a boot drive then

and then have 2 m.2 nvme SSDs for storage

[astral haven]

boot, program, and most importantly temporary folders

[astral haven]

yup
or just 1 for now

can highly recommend getting 1x4tb vs 2x2tb

at least now that prices have calmed down

[hardy idol]

yes?

also because reliability

or could I raid the nvmes

[astral haven]

nah

[hardy idol]

we had a talk about that

but i dont remember the outcome

[astral haven]

backups >>> anything raid

[hardy idol]

okay okay

gotcha

[astral haven]

unless zfs but you probably dont want to have thaaaaat much linux fun 😛

[hardy idol]

no i might just go full windows then

[astral haven]

can always partition 😛

[hardy idol]

meh ill go full windows

boot drive and rest is file drive

[astral haven]

also exos x20 20tb is $280
thats not bad at all!

we are edging ever closer to $10/TB even at the high end

[hardy idol]

damn

[umbral heron]

PLN1600/pc... 60TB raid5 storage would be nice

[hardy idol]

Well, here we go again then.

Open to criticism

[astral haven]

[insert 10 page rant about form over function]

[hardy idol]

HAHahaha

quin and V are probably going to do that yeah lmao

I didnt include the Optane SSD because its from marketplace

[astral haven]

i was actually blown away by how much faster it was

[hardy idol]

and you also just use it as a boot drive?

[astral haven]

yup

i went crazy tho after lel

[hardy idol]

nice, good.

280GB isnt much

but

I am going to try to fit Solidworks onto there

[astral haven]

Yea I started with 280
Then upgraded to 480
Then 1.5tb

[hardy idol]

ah right

The rest of the applications, and games

can be on the samsung drive

wasdat

[empty wren]

Pcie 5 ssd?

[crisp granite]

...fuck

a game I would actually need to put on my boot drive

[empty wren]

Damn that game looks really good too

[crisp granite]

damn you look really good

[empty wren]

Also black Friday is soon

[hardy idol]

i hope there won't be much fake deals

how legit is black friday in the Netherlands/europe

[empty wren]

Same, I hope the OLED monitors drop a bit more in price

[hardy idol]

how early do the deals start

[empty wren]

Depends where you look

[hardy idol]

if I can wait a week and get those pc parts a bit cheaper

wouldn't mind

[crisp granite]

oh, funny story

[empty wren]

There is also cyber Monday

[hardy idol]

but on the other hand pc parts often get fake deals

[empty wren]

Which after Black Friday

[hardy idol]

directly after?

[crisp granite]

I'm shopping for ITX mobos
there's one I originally had my eye on
it's so discounted that, after a rebate

[empty wren]

Well it is the upcoming Monday after that Friday

[hardy idol]

I mean, with the weekend in between of course

😂

[crisp granite]

it ends up being 10 bucks cheaper than a mobo from the same brand, with an MSRP 110 bucks more

[empty wren]

Okay fair yes then

[hardy idol]

The one time of the year where we skip Saturday and Sunday 😂

[crisp granite]

cursed
but that's out of stock everywhere

[dreamy tendon]

itx boards are always cursed

cursed pricing or cursed stocks

[empty wren]

Asus itx?

[crisp granite]

Asrock

Assus makes a mobo that costs more than the CPU I want to put in it

skippin that shit

[empty wren]

It got thunderbolt doe

[crisp granite]

also I don't need an external tumour of a sound card

[empty wren]

For those who need it

Or want it

[crisp granite]

fuck that shit

put it ON the motherboard
LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

[empty wren]

Sound card is okay on some of em

But I did have static on my z690

Until I calibrated it

Ideally people would probably use a dac

[dreamy tendon]

nah no space for sound chip

but space for rgb connectors and useless heatsinks

[crisp granite]

like

WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS OK FOR AN ITX BUILD??????

[empty wren]

Some of them I coulfs sworn were on it

[dreamy tendon]

😂

[crisp granite]

and...um
580 bucks
miss me with that shit

[crisp granite]

intel
yucky

only CPU worth getting is a 7800X3D for the average pleb gamer

[empty wren]

How about custom water loop stuff?

[dreamy tendon]

was bouta ask

how u gonna fit the gpu 😂

nah was referring to how u gonna fit a gpu into that budget

unless you're going for low end stuff

[crisp granite]

a firearm
and speaking to a priest afterwards

how much does a hipoint go for nowadays?

[empty wren]

Maybe he is looking at bundles

Some of those are decent deals

Alright then

[dreamy tendon]

i mean the only place that does decent bundles is microcenter

but they don't do anything for itx builds

[empty wren]

Newegg has bundles too

[dreamy tendon]

are they that competitive for pricing?

[crisp granite]

no

you're saving 60 CAD at most

which is
pardon my tard franglais

very fucking little

[dreamy tendon]

yeah pretty much i don't expect any place to do good bundles

damn

[empty wren]

Qh another ASRock board I see

I sadly do not hang around this channel much so I would not know

Interesting when will Intel kill 1700

[dreamy tendon]

prob next gen

[ashen spindle]

yes

[crisp granite]

...you need to go to whatever AA equivalent exists for USB addiction

[ashen spindle]

intel continues with the 2 gens per socket

since 14th gen is not real

[dreamy tendon]

damn i didn't know the z790 chipset could have so many pcie lanes

[umbral heron]

I give up on the idea of having smart home...
Every time I switch my outlet for lamp the monitor turns off
And after I finally managed to keep LED tape on the wall (after it unsticked itself 2 times) it turns out openHAB can't talk to it and instead of color I'm getting white with a shade of that color, and brightness slider does nothing

[ashen spindle]

I view it like linux

a few years before I can use it still but looking promising

[umbral heron]

Imma try out Home Assistant tomorrow and hope it will work for a chance

[halcyon moss]

Home assistant is best.
But you do need to pick and choose gadgets that work with it.

But most zigbee things work

(with a zigbee stick and zigbee2mqtt)

[green remnant]

When it comes to modding the keyboard via tape mod when they say “layers” of tape do they mean individual pieces of tape of ACTUAL layers (4 layers seem a bit outrageous to me)

[vagrant pagoda]

that is super fucking dumb

switch your x16 to x8 for a single m.2

should drop one of the chipset x4 4.0 slots

and do 8+4+m.2

[ashen spindle]

still wish some boards would just stop offering pcie 5 for gpus that barely started using gen4 and just split that into gen4 lanes for a lot of things

[vagrant pagoda]

doing 5->4 is big $

[ashen spindle]

yeah and

we already have stupid expensive boards that dont do anything

at least give me stupid expensive boards that are uniqie at something

like if those get made make something that does anything usefull at least

[vagrant pagoda]

a pcie 5 fanout cost that much

yeah just the chip for a 4.0 fan out is ~200 bucks

i cant see a small lane count 5.0, but the 100 lanes are 5 grand

the 100 lane 4.0 is only 800

so scaling the 5.0 to based on the 4.0

its gonna be 800-1000 for just the fanout

[ashen spindle]

would be more usefull than this board imo

[vagrant pagoda]

youd double the cost of that board

for it having 32 lanes of 4.0?

i dont even think carmoben would pay 2k for a board with a pcie 5.0 swtich

[ashen spindle]

it just feels really dumb that we waste so much bandwidth

[vagrant pagoda]

people dont use it

90% of people need one fast expanion card if any

[ashen spindle]

well yeah 99% of people also would never consider the godlike

[wheat plume]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Sxrk7gWdrGo

[green remnant]

If my hand is 6.5in length and I wanna main claw should I get a lamzu atlantis mini or a lamzu atlantis og?

Yeah but size matters with the mice depending on how I hold it right?

[vagrant pagoda]

thats what she said

[green remnant]

Alright man

[astral haven]

iem companies work to make it hard to be an iem fan

[halcyon willow]

IEM companies after making the most lude, inappropriate, borderline pedophilic box for a gray pair of IEM's

[astral haven]

Remove 1 layer of packaging and the packaging improves drastically

[zenith silo]

What's that in cm

[halcyon willow]

how are those?

[green remnant]

16.51

[zenith silo]

Oh you want the mini for sure if you wanna claw

[green remnant]

Whats the upside of the mouse being smaller?

[zenith silo]

I have 20cm long hands and I ftip and claw my mini

My og v2 I play claw

[green remnant]

So I should definitely get the mini

[zenith silo]

Unless it's too small for your hands (you have small hands it won't) smaller mice are lighter and easier to move/be fine with

Yes you should 100% get mini with your hand size

[wheat plume]

Why are more and more Chinese audio brands putting waifus on their packaging?

[green remnant]

Even if I wanna convert to palm itll still work?

[true quest]

they have to compensate for trash products

[green remnant]

But if I wanna palm grip the mini itll still work?

[green remnant]

@zenith silo

I’m still transitioning to claw myself

Why not?

Oh I see

I’m gonna learn claw cuz its pretty comfortable and works well so I’ll probably get the mini

What the

Yeah no I’m getting the mini

[zenith silo]

You need the mini if you wanna claw

[green remnant]

What about the oh?

Og*

I would do that if I wanna palm?

I dont think my hand is getting larger any time soon

[solemn remnant]

no that doesn't apply anymore, too old

stahp

clearly you watched the wrong video

[zenith silo]

Tbh you could possibly palm the mini

[green remnant]

Yeah so itd be best for me to get a mini huh?

[astral haven]

yea but you dont also palm the m2k lel

what????

i cant fingertip any mouse besides the m2k because my hands are too small

[zenith silo]

lol what

i find that the opposite

noway people actually believe that right?

bigger hands let you ftip like any mouse

[astral haven]

i cant imagine anyone not being able to fingertip the m178 for example

maybe if you were trying to claw or palm

also hmm
truthear nova sounds less bass heavy than zero to my ear???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el2L5kanmmA

nope theres just something wrong with my left ear oh no

oh right my left ear is larger so it cant seal properly

like they might be saying that if its too small, you must be clawing it, but thats just not true

thats channels?

whats across the bottom

0-160?

thats pretty solid content

thats what happens when you use actual recordings

isnt as much of a short stress test of the device as the opening of edge of tomorrow is tho

the scale on there only goes up to -10 🤣

Try 2, this time without shaking like mad

lets just pretend this never happened

And finally here is as much as I can get their respective colors to change

you can see a faint tinge of the change

[halcyon willow]

I already have them engrained into my mind.

[astral haven]

After listening for a decent bit I can confidently say the novas are worse value than the zeros, but dang it's shocking that they actually managed to make it noticeably better

[umbral heron]

How does it looks like for now for internals? Should I swap something?

[cursive summit]

This belongs in #🐸│memes

[umbral heron]

Vex woke up and chose violence

[cursive summit]

I mean, you are literally memeing?

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/passive-salt-water-cooling-boosts-cpu-performance-by-almost-33

[ashen spindle]

What a useless article

Just writes their numbers without questioning wtf that means, like was it thermal throttling or how is that performance coming to be

[umbral heron]

v2, swapped mobo and RAM sticks, seems ok for now

[cursive summit]

Calslock ain't you like, poor

"I have 100 zloty in my wallet"

[umbral heron]

What I have in wallet and what I have on savings account are two different things
Don't worry about my financial situation, I'm good

[cursive summit]

Why are you buying a top end CPU, yet only 500GBs of SSD, old mid-range GPU. 128 gigs of RAM?

It's a bit uh, unbalanced?

[umbral heron]

For a workstation on which I will be playing games like 3 hours daily maybe?
6700XT I already have in PC right now so I just carry it over, it's enough for 1080p60
500GB ssd for boot, 2TB for some games

[old marlin]

goodram SSD in a workstation 💀

7950X3D for a workstation 💀

[cursive summit]

Does the Vcache do anything for productivity?

[old marlin]

it can

[reef patrol]

Making such remarks without specifying why it's a problem ☠️

[old marlin]

but it is kinda fucky with dual ccd

[cursive summit]

So why is it, like Mansen says, "a problem"?

It's like the top 16 core chip you can buy

[old marlin]

the regular 7950/7950x has more multicore perf

since those can clock higher

the x3d ones have limited maximum clocks

[cursive summit]

Makes sense why you wouldn't want to buy X3D then

[old marlin]

if you can make use of the extra cache then it might perform better, but they can act kinda funky since that would only work with half the cores

[umbral heron]

I copy-pasted wrong one
It's meant to be 7950X

[old marlin]

and the goodram ssd imo is just a stability issue I would avoid

even if it is only in use when gaming

[old marlin]

ah

depending on what you do, consider checking if quicker ram might make a difference

5600 cl36 ain't that good

[umbral heron]

SSD doesn't really matter, all work stuff is on a NAS, hence 10GbE card
So it's just for some data, some games is all, and I can get one new for very cheap rn

I'm doing mostly VM stuff, so I dunno if speeds are crucial here

[old marlin]

thing is if the SSD acts up it can lead to bsods etc

[ashen spindle]

You’re not getting more with that amount of ram

[old marlin]

ig?

[ashen spindle]

This isn’t dual stick 16gb

[old marlin]

idk what they are paying

[mild dome]

When we say good we mean reliable brand that won't chew your kneecaps off in the dead of night.
Don't cheap out on something that might give you a multiday headache

[old marlin]

but you can get sams size kits 6000 cl32 rn for 230€

[ashen spindle]

You can’t run that

[old marlin]

idk about that

[cursive summit]

https://www.kedglobal.com/korean-chipmakers/newsView/ked202311120002 Samsung Set to Unveil Revolutionary SAINT 3D Chip Packaging in 2023

No embed eh

[ashen spindle]

Honestly before the bios updates this year I would have even said don’t bother with 128gb on am5

Now it’s at least just hard to run

[cursive summit]

https://engineercodex.substack.com/p/how-one-line-of-code-caused-a-60

[mild dome]

Can you prove it? Especially after AMD's latest BIOS?

[umbral heron]

Technically there's nothing in ASRock's manual about speed limits
But knowing Ryzens better safe then sorry
But yeah, same sticks but with 6000MHz is like 20zł more expensive, not really a difference

[ashen spindle]

What, that not a single platform can do 4 lanes at max capacity at the same speed as normal configs? That’s not something I need to prove that’s how every desktop is

Im honestly not even sure the 5600 will even work

[mild dome]

If the 6000MHz sticks don't work you could either exchange or downclock them

[ashen spindle]

There is 0 chance 6000 will work lmfao

[umbral heron]

It looks like 4800x4 is stable, 5200x4 may work, 5600x4 is a no-go without manual OC

[cursive summit]

Is that a motherboard, 7950X or just AMD issue?

[hardy idol]

@umbral heron
Yesterday I kinda finished what I'm going to blackfriday hunt for for my workstation

[ashen spindle]

That’s just how ram works, more ranks are harder to run

[hardy idol]

Blue is what I already have

I guess

[cursive summit]

going for AMD anyways

Told you to ditch the shintels

[ashen spindle]

Saying it without any reason why isn’t doing much

[hardy idol]

Burner cpu and mobo combo

[cursive summit]

Not too sure why NZXT's Kraken, is it just for aesthetics?

[hardy idol]

but current setup

[cursive summit]

Expensive module, not in any way better than cheaper stuff

[umbral heron]

Ok then, v3, 5600 cost the same as 5200, so I can just downclock them

[mild dome]

Asrock's site has a list of tested modules if you want to double check

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B650 Pro RS/index.asp#Memory

[hardy idol]

this will retain more value if I sell it within 6 months for the new zen gen

than the intel stuff I think

[hardy idol]

no no no I still do need some performance

[mild dome]

Looks like some have found 2x32GB 6800Mhz works, but nothing stating 4 sticks until way down

[cursive summit]

Go with arctic 360?

Kraken elite is insanely overpriced

[old marlin]

they only support 3 kits in 4 slots lol

[cursive summit]

It's just aesthetics mainly cause of the programmable screen

[old marlin]

and none of the 3 kits are the right size

[old marlin]

should also perform better

(not like it matters much with am5)

I would honestly recommend just going with an air cooler?

[ashen spindle]

Yeah don’t think any qvl list has 4 sticks certified at xmp

[hardy idol]

don't really care much

[mild dome]

Problem is that it doesn't show you combinations that didn't work. Like did they not test 4x32gb, or did it fail?

[ashen spindle]

Ofc it works at jedec speeds of the cpu rating but qvl is for xmp and similar

[old marlin]

am5 cooling is kinda fucked

[cursive summit]

@umbral heron

Someone did 128 gig 6400 apparently

[mild dome]

Why not get the Samsung qled 57" at this point?

[cursive summit]

6400 apparently isn't stable but 6000 is

[ashen spindle]

Need some more info, is that ambient

[cursive summit]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Amd/comments/159xoao/stable_128gb4x32gb_ddr56000_cl30_on_agesa_1007b/

[old marlin]

with rgb even

[frozen ingot]

"budget-friendly"

[old marlin]

can't wait until people find out that more rgb = more heat = issues with high speed ddr5

[frozen ingot]

its all relative I guess

[hardy idol]

Show me?

[umbral heron]

Oh, ok, X670E is not that more expensive, that's nice

[mild dome]

It's harder to find shit wuthout rgb at this point :

[ashen spindle]

Damn that’s some heavy OC but nice

[mild dome]

Still on preorder at the moment
https://www.samsung.com/au/monitors/gaming/odyssey-neo-g9-g95nc-57-inch-240hz-curved-dual-uhd-ls57cg952nexxy/

[old marlin]

x670e alone will not do that for you

chipset is kinda irrelevant to memory oc

[mild dome]

But you get more pixels and a slightly larger screen

[old marlin]

ah

is that the one that doesn't work with most gpus

[halcyon moss]

a white cooler? wtf

coolers are made black to get better cooling performance

[cursive summit]

Well technically, white repulses heat and black soaks it up

So white is better for thermals, duh

[old marlin]

well technically no coating would be ever so slightly better

[cursive summit]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/qualcomm-kills-its-copy-of-apples-satellite-sos-after-ten-months/

[old marlin]

lol

[halcyon moss]

yeaah.. no

black absorbs and radiates better

[cursive summit]

Is there a page for "killed by qualcomm" lol

Giving google a good run for its money

[cursive summit]

Is that not what we want lel

We want to get rid of heat not absorb it

[halcyon moss]

AND RADIATE IT

/slap

[old marlin]

that is such a minute difference

you will get more differences purely by surface roughness

[hardy idol]

that's wider than my desj

this one is as wide lmao my desk is 1200 iirc same as the 49 one

Also ngl

[mild dome]

Dang, so you can't fit it at all?
I imagine you might appreaciate the pixels
the older 49" is like two 1440P monitors, but the larger 57" is like two 4K displays

[hardy idol]

I'm for productivity anyway

1000R is harder to use

[mild dome]

Wait are you getting the QDOLED? When you said the QLED I thought you meant the older VA paneled one
Man these LED acronyms are getting weird

[hardy idol]

Yeah tbh idk

it's the old one

https://www.samsung.com/nl/monitors/gaming/odyssey-crg9-49-inch-120hz-freesync-curved-lc49rg90sspxen/

it's 1440p

QD OLED one is a lot more expensive

[mild dome]

Ah it's the super old version
Samsung really should've given these things better names, everysingle model being called the G9 is painful

[pale sigil]

Samsung and good naming lol

[hardy idol]

yep

[wheat plume]

Wait wtf
Does anyone actually think Siri is better than Google Assistant???

[reef patrol]

Ah yes. Today's dosage of Lanaposting.

[pale sigil]

You love it though

[reef patrol]

(I really don't)

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/IJ8xUzVVRgU

Here
The full context

Enjoy

[halcyon moss]

no

[wheat plume]

Oof yeh ....

[umbral heron]

ofc Siri is better
No other AI is so much sassy lol

[halcyon moss]

only judging by the hotword misfires it is already worse

[frozen ingot]

people use those assistants?

[umbral heron]

Some do
I despise them
My brother used it for a while and then got bored
My auntie uses google assistant pretty much all the time

[frozen ingot]

I feel like a fucking dork talking to a computer

[wheat plume]

Same

[umbral heron]

That's what rubber ducky is for

[halcyon moss]

i use google assistant to set timers

sometimes

or make a call when driving in a car

oh i dont activate it by hotword.

[umbral heron]

"Oi, Google"

[halcyon moss]

long press on the home button tyvm

[umbral heron]

wtf

it works on my phone too

hellish technology

[hardy idol]

Cortana is miles ahead

[wheat plume]

LOL

[umbral heron]

Assistant or NPC?

[halcyon moss]

as an npc she was annoying

[umbral heron]

So at least they got that right

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/v3q707TRIIs

Whats the best swappiness value for 16GB ram?

[old marlin]

[old marlin]

depends on exact usecase

[halcyon moss]

the default :p;

[old marlin]

actually not even true

[wheat plume]

Android studio, youtube music, Chrome

typically at the same time

[old marlin]

for most people default is higher than ideal

[old marlin]

prob don't need to change it

I doubt it would ever cause issues

[wheat plume]

building takes so long in android studio, freaking Gradle takes ages to do its shit

[umbral heron]

I don't use swap at all on systems >8GB, unless with integrated GPU, then 10-15

[old marlin]

I mean you can try reducing it

[wheat plume]

I have 4GB swap rn

[old marlin]

I have had issues with it before

and just reduced it to 0

[wheat plume]

idk if its a file or partition though

[old marlin]

but just try out

[halcyon moss]

are you using the swap

[wheat plume]

yes, 10mb for some reason

[old marlin]

well yea

[old marlin]

default swappiness is 60

[halcyon moss]

OHNO

[wheat plume]

xd

[old marlin]

so it will always start putting unused stuff in there

only way to prevent it is to reduce swappiness to 0

[umbral heron]

👍

[old marlin]

then it only starts using the swap when memory is about to get full

[wheat plume]

yours isnt even close to full though

[halcyon moss]

ive never cared about swap untill mem gets full

[wheat plume]

yeh

hhm

[halcyon moss]

your slowness is not caused by swap

[old marlin]

i'd doubt it as well

[halcyon moss]

kek

[wheat plume]

o.o

[old marlin]

those represent in tenths?

[umbral heron]

have 48 cores and 378G of ram
still use 80-char width terminal

[old marlin]

wdym

that is ssh

also those cpus cost 20€

and ECC ram costs jack shit

[umbral heron]

ssh is not constrained to 80-chars too

[old marlin]

too bad

won't make the window bigger

[umbral heron]

[woven laurel]

[old marlin]

goodbye image

[misty saffron]

so you use linux as well

[misty saffron]

i don’t think we can be blamed for the stereotype at this point

[old marlin]

?

I mean I use it for servers

[woven laurel]

you guys dont use it for servers?

[old marlin]

wouldn't be mad enough to run everything on windows

[misty saffron]

that’s referring to a previous conversation

[umbral heron]

no

[old marlin]

hyper-v users 💀

[woven laurel]

[old marlin]

I mean I use it in vms

since it is unavoidable in a lot of cases

[woven laurel]

only for nginx servers

[umbral heron]

I haven't used Windows since February last year

[halcyon moss]

ok lana

[woven laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

[wheat plume]

Rosalina <3

[potent arch]

1 / 8 parts bought

had to buy it right now because the price was 50€ cheaper than usual

didnt wanna risk it selling out instantly

still a good gpu

considering im on a tight 1k budget id say yea

[wheat plume]

what the equivalent nvidia GPU to this?

im not good at figuring out AMD's GPU naming scheme :/

oooohhh, right

thats pretty good still, im sure, but 400 seems a lot of money?

[umbral heron]

Nah, closer to 3070 in most cases

[woven laurel]

3070 ti is a better comparison

to a 6800

[potent arch]

yea non xt

xt ver. is out of my budget

my friend has that one lol

would have bought the 7700xt instead but the 6800 just got cheaper today

by like 15% ish

what would guy say is better tho

7700xt or 6800

[hardy idol]

4090

[gusty kiln]

7800xt for 50more

[potent arch]

yea but that one is 120€ more compared to the 6800

[umbral heron]

7700xt and 6800 are surprisingly close to each other, I'd suggest getting 7700xt only if you're into new technological stuff, other than that if you can get 6800 for cheaper, then go for it

[vagrant pagoda]

7900 is 3810 better though

[potent arch]

i already bought the 6800 because its around 50€ cheaper than the 7700xt for nearly the same power

dont know if it was worth it yet but we will see soon ig

[hardy idol]

8850 is even better

[vagrant pagoda]

I have a 9800x2

That's the best

[hardy idol]

What are we even talking about

[gusty kiln]

Maf

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-readies-8-core-ryzen-7-5700x3d-and-6-core-ryzen-5-5500x3d-with-96mb-l3-cache

What the fuck

What's the point of the 5700X3D

[old marlin]

Yes

[cursive summit]

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/11/13/eu-iphone-app-sideloading-coming-2024/

Whatever this is

[steep creek]

wonder if they will try to limit it in some ways considering the fee they charge per app store transaction lol

either way im looking forward to sideloading

[misty saffron]

larger cache is always a benefit

russia is also planning on passing a “yes sideloading” law, unsurprisingly

[cursive summit]

It's basically a nerfed 5800X3D?

Slower clocks, no other difference

Same silicon as well probably

Just trying to erase X3D stocks asap

[misty saffron]

well you’ve just answered your own question

[cursive summit]

Shite launch anyways

[astral haven]

Better than using them to backfill beaches 🤷

[austere pike]

wha

[misty saffron]

can only find this, but related
https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-fined-17-millon-by-russian-regulatory-agency_id144940

[ashen spindle]

https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/genci-announces-major-upgrade-to-adastra-supercomputer-with-amds-latest-apu/ more mi300 wins

[wheat plume]

At least Apple are being forced to allow side loading within the EU from March onwards next year

I wonder how that works

What if you took an EU iPhone to the USA
Would the ability to side load just go away?

[misty saffron]

probably by country of activation

ios devices need to be activated online after they’re purchased

in part for warranty to start, i guess

[wheat plume]

oooohh

so sideloading might still work if you took it to the US?

[reef patrol]

Wouldn't expect it not to.

It'd be locked to the firmware, just like how you can lock phones to carriers in the US right from the factory.

[wheat plume]

Maybe maybe

[ashen spindle]

sounds very unlikely that a product sold here changes its behaviour, would make for an easy lawsuit

[wheat plume]

I mean, depending on where you go, you cant listen to certain music on YT or Spotify

and Spotify only give you 5 days before they lock you out untol you get back home to the county you signed up in if you go somewhere else

but thats for a different reason, copyright and shit

[true stream]

can somebody tell me where i can find the wooting app on windows? I've installed it but i cannot find it anywhere

[pastel wolf]

just search it on windows bar i guess? 😭

[wheat plume]

Start menu, no?

[true stream]

i did.. but i only find the wooting setup exe

[wheat plume]

oh, that happens sometimes .-.

Window's Search didnt index it

[true stream]

😭

sucky

[wheat plume]

log back in or just use Web Wootility if you have a Chromium based browser installed

[true stream]

yeah. i guess i will. thank you though

[wheat plume]

maybe you can just navigate to Program Files too and run it manually from there

and then next time you do reboot, it should be in the Start Menu

[ashen spindle]

or just run the installer again

[true stream]

i think i will stick with the web version and deinstall the app

its pretty handy anway

cant find it in the programm files either haha

but mercii

[wheat plume]

ohh hmm, you sure it did install and not give an error message?

[hardy idol]

If I want to put a decal on my gpu backplate

I don't think a regular sticker would like that?

[old marlin]

the gpu also prob would not

[hardy idol]

mhm

[ashen spindle]

eh, will get a bit warm but if you dont put it over a air duct nothing happens

[hardy idol]

i know mansen suggested UV printing back then but I don't know how expensive that is

[ashen spindle]

I guess the glue might not like the heat

[hardy idol]

this was my concern, yea

[ashen spindle]

but most backplates arent even well connected so they dont even remove any heat

[hardy idol]

This remains the plan

[cursive summit]

Why aren't you getting the gigagamer card

[old marlin]

oh yea that should be fine

[hardy idol]

This one?

[hardy idol]

?

[old marlin]

does that one have a typo?

[hardy idol]

yes

[ashen spindle]

like I dont that plate will even get warm enough to fully remove the glue of a sticker

[old marlin]

yea should be fine

I thought you meant a sticker covering the entire thing

[cursive summit]

Find the megagamer card on sale lol https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/maxsun-rtx-4080-mgg-oc-s0.b10989

5 fans!

[hardy idol]

am worried itll fuck up glue on a transparent sticker

[hardy idol]

why was that thing in a rock tumbler for 50 hours

ITS SO

[cursive summit]

Because

5 FANS!

[hardy idol]

ROUND

[hardy idol]

I'm not a fan tbh

[cursive summit]

Well yes, you are a human

[ashen spindle]

if I were to guess that would not even get to 40C on that side of the backplate

which doesnt really loosen glue iirc? and its on top so it would just cool down again after

[hardy idol]

Mhm I guess I could just try it

I'll probably start modifying once the PC is here.
Better for measuring stuff

[gentle osprey]

Just get the ASUS Matrix

[hardy idol]

it doesn't look as good

I like the white strix cooler and I'm going to paint it

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/ji5HwS3bhlU

nothing are making an app for the Phone (2) that can pretend to be iMessage to iPhone users

so you get the blue bubble and the other shit too

Its a collab with Sunbird

Wonder how long it will take for Apple to sue them into oblivion

[dreamy tendon]

Not unexpected tbh cuz the CEO has always looked towards being like the next apple

[wheat plume]

Carl Pei, Nothing CEO, has said that the majority of people who buy their earphones and other accessories are iPhone users but those users are also not buying the Nothing Phones cause they wanna keep using iMessage....
so this is why they made this app LOL

[dreamy tendon]

can't beat em, might as well join em

[wheat plume]

This is basically just a relay service though

When you connect to an iMessage account, that account is hosted in a mac mini server farm and forwards the messages it recieves to the app on your phone

[chrome estuary]

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with that.

[wheat plume]

its the only way this can work ...

unless you have your own Apple device always connected to internet, then you can host this yourself

[chrome estuary]

Sure but if you're that desperate for iMessage. Buy an iPhone or an iPad with data

[wheat plume]

Yeah

Most americans are that desperate

thats why most still use iPhone

[dreamy tendon]

Damn that's actually wild lol

[wheat plume]

not cause they like the phone, its cause they wanna use iMessage

[dreamy tendon]

Guess they're that closed down with their ecosystem

[wheat plume]

Yeah

Even Apple knows this is the case, they said so in leaked emails

[ashen spindle]

thats quite the bold assumption that most only use it for that

[wheat plume]

Its true though ... if you arent on iPhone in America among your friend group, youll be left out of facetime calls and iMessage group chats and whatnot

and youll have the infamous green bubble when you send a text

[ashen spindle]

sure that happens but doubt that would be the reason for most owners

[wheat plume]

basically most of the 87% of teens and young adults who have an iPhone in America

[ashen spindle]

based on what info

[dreamy tendon]

Good thing I'm a discord pleb

[wheat plume]

Apple basically has unencrypted data when messaing Android users

its regular plain SMS

not RCS, cause Apple dont want to use RCS to message Android

[hardy idol]

Okay @astral haven revealed to me that my laptop housed a 980 non pro in 1TB form

So I'll reuse that!

[chrome estuary]

I'm assuming that's a Thinkpad?

[upper comet]

no idea this existed

[astral haven]

Oh wait no my bad it's a 970 non pro
Samsung with their names

[upper comet]

only knew about the eva collab

[hardy idol]

Cooling apparatus!

[wheat plume]

Yeah ....Apple coulld just update iMessage to break it

[astral haven]

981 = 970 ish

[hardy idol]

No that's what I'm going to do to a white edition

[ashen spindle]

still waiting on some source that is more than just a gut feeling that the imessage thing is the reason for most people..

[hardy idol]

still, I'll just reuse it

[astral haven]

Actually the 980 is dramless trash, so this is better depending on the workload

I forgot how garbage it was

[hardy idol]

I'll have the PCIe SSD as a boot drive
M.2 4TB for storage
M. 2 1TB from laptop as more storage

[hardy idol]

wait so the 990 pro isn't my best bet for an that 4TB SSD?

[ashen spindle]

I said a source for the chat bubble being the reason not for how many people own an iphone...

[upper comet]

ah fr should be fire

[ashen spindle]

oh look what people found at supercomputing, it's alive!

[astral haven]

Pro version is the same as the Evo from 2 years ago
Regular version is now garbage ewaste tier

[wheat plume]

https://www.ft.com/content/8a2e8442-449e-4dbd-bd6d-2656b4503526

[astral haven]

But pcie 4 for the blazing fast file copies

[hardy idol]

I was also looking at the firecuda one

But tbh idk what it

[hardy idol]

lol

[ashen spindle]

paid article cant read that

[wheat plume]

wat, I was ablw to read it all

[hardy idol]

cast in 11/18

[astral haven]

Ah yes source is 1 person nice

[astral haven]

OK source is 2 people

[wheat plume]

One of those people being the CEO of Apple... yeah thats as good of a source as possible

[ashen spindle]

we are not saying it's not a thing

[astral haven]

I'm not even sure we have imessage enabled on our work iPhones

[wheat plume]

Head of Software* not CEO

[ashen spindle]

but it being a thing and it being the only reason why most people buy it is a MASSIVE difference

[hardy idol]

ok I'm

[astral haven]

We have everything apple ID related blocked

[wheat plume]

then why use iPhone?

[astral haven]

Cause they cost $70 to us total including tax and shipping

[wheat plume]

o.o what models?

[astral haven]

1 guess

[wheat plume]

iPhone 5 or some shit?

[astral haven]

Lol no they don't make those any more

[ashen spindle]

because it works well? has working cameras, familiar UX if you used them before, ecosystem integration

[wheat plume]

8?

[steep creek]

even find my iphone?

[ashen spindle]

saying an iphone has not reason to be bought besides imessage bubbles is wild

[wheat plume]

He just said they remove the ecosystem stuff so no

[astral haven]

Correct, we have an enterprise service that basically replaces all of that

[steep creek]

ah interesting

[astral haven]

Think cheaper

[wheat plume]

idk what ones they still make

6, 7?

[astral haven]

But new

[steep creek]

i was thinking in regard to insurance, what would happen if the phone was lost

[wheat plume]

SE???

[astral haven]

Obviously

[hardy idol]

@astral haven

👀

[wheat plume]

how tf they selling yall them for 70 dollars?

[ashen spindle]

who is they? and what do you mean they remove it? even if they open it up it still would take a while before other phones just seemlessly work well for it

[astral haven]

What other phone would they practically give away

[wheat plume]

Carmonben said his work remove all the ecosystem shit from the iPhones they use

[astral haven]

And there's still ecosystem integration

Just not via apple servers

[wheat plume]

oh hmm

[astral haven]

Airdrop is p2p

The casting thing is p2p

[wheat plume]

but you still need an Apple Account

[astral haven]

No?

[wheat plume]

oh

[ashen spindle]

work phone is also quite a bit different of an environement to use any phone in

[astral haven]

Tis blocked

[wheat plume]

oh hmm

Thought Airdrop needed an Apple ID

[astral haven]

Negatory

[wheat plume]

Surprised by that

Maybe not actually, Android Nearby Share also doesnt need an account

but that shit barely detects a phone nearby sooooo yeah

[hardy idol]

Guys

[wheat plume]

Gays

[hardy idol]

Can I reuse my laptop screen for something

[pale sigil]

Did you just assume our genders

[astral haven]

Works great for me when I turn it on

[umbral heron]

You can get eDP -> HDMI converter

[astral haven]

The problem is everyone has it turned off

[wheat plume]

It works great once it detects the phone....

[hardy idol]

Yes and now I'll assume your race, ****************

[wheat plume]

Well, it needs BT and Location on to work, so OFC peoplel have either both or one of those 2 off at all times

[hardy idol]

would be incredible to have a small screen to the side tbh

[pale sigil]

Bt can't be permanently turned off which is stupid

On iOS

[wheat plume]

I only turn BT and Location on when I needto use them and keep them off

[hardy idol]

HAHAHA what

[wheat plume]

yeah cause Airdrop and shit need it

[hardy idol]

whst thr fuck

[umbral heron]

There are HDMI and DisplayPort converters afaik, and they're not that expensive

[pale sigil]

Not all laptop screens can do that

[astral haven]

No, the quick toggle just doesn't allow that
If you turn it off in the real settings app it stays off

[astral haven]

Yes they can you just need different ones