🔌│tech

[crisp granite]

I'll wait till it matures as a product

[lofty pivot]

And it’s not even on weight

[crisp granite]

initial problems sorted out

[lofty pivot]

Went from 33 to 38 grams so it’s basically just a gwolves htx now

They say December ordering for small but they’re literally scrambling to redesign it now because people are roasting them on lying about weights

[crisp granite]

wait...what?

wow Finalmouse dropped the ball

AGAIN

[lofty pivot]

Their justification is the funniest part

They low key changed specs on site from 33 to 35 grams then said 35 grams is weight without skates and such

[fickle ore]

The dongle is polled at higher hz than 1khz even on 1khz setting, so they can sneak extra click packets even if no sensor data is available. Clicks can be interrupted separately from sensor data, so clicks always have data availabe to send.

[crisp granite]

"yeah bro, our mouse weighs less when you remove all the stuff that makes it usable"

[wheat plume]

...anyone know how to make Jetbrain Toolbox have a monochrome systray icon??

[crisp granite]

logi be like "superlight 3 weighs only 5 grams*"

*pcb only

[lofty pivot]

It’s impressive they invented a whole new way to weigh mice just to lie about their mouse weight lol

[rough osprey]

is the "bandwith" limited so at 8k its slower bc of extra sensor data?

[crisp granite]

go back to playing unreal tournament, grandpa

[crisp granite]

crap I want to play some unreal tournament

[rough osprey]

okay makes sense

[crisp granite]

I haven't in...years

is it still a thing?

[fickle ore]

@rough osprey We don't have more specifics so I can't tell you the HOW 😛

They were available for 1 hour after release. That's nearly same as backorder

[zenith silo]

Wouldn't be surprised if some staff at least did

Get an easy 2-3+ units and just resell them for twice the price

[gusty kiln]

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-e2x2-audio-interface-review.49127/

reguardless of how you feel about ASR, this interface looks like endgame for 99% of people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHJGwVBGPXE

another review

https://www.techpowerup.com/315313/msi-expands-its-qd-oled-gaming-monitors-lineup

qd-oled in 16:9

[old marlin]

yea dell also announced some

[gusty kiln]

hope one of these brands include a KVM

[crisp granite]

that seems dangerous

can't wait to bash into one making a right hand turn, I guess

[crisp granite]

or more have my right side of car bashed in

what in the fuck

don't get me wrong
I try to be safe around cyclists, and the issues here is that no cyclist around seems to respect the traffic signals nor signal their own in turn

but if you signalled, I would respect that

[thick elk]

Interesting electric scooter design. I don't think it will catch on in the Netherlands though, as it would probably require you to use a helmet, where an electric folding bicycle would not, even if the latter is a bit more clunkey.

The reason is mopeds allowed to go a maximum of 25km/h were a big nuance in cities most of them tuned to go much faster. So they added a licence plate and helmet requirement. Electric propulsion would not change the classification as far as I understand.

Regular mopeds limited to 45km/h requires a form of driver's licence and are not allowed to be used on bycicle lanes. hence tuning the low speed option was popular.

In the netherlands as long as your using your own power there is no need for a speedometer, so there is also no speed limit. Going down a local hil I once hit 50 km/h which does feel a bit scary on a normal bicycle.

[hasty thunder]

wait... how can you get a speeding ticket for that shit? o.o

well, explains it i guess

hoooold on, does hawaii used kmh or mph?

well, i'm fine with mph

i mean you guys signed a treaty to convert to metric

[thick elk]

Getting a speeding ticket on a skateboard would not be possible in the Netherlands.
Getting fined for reckless behavior would be.

To me imperial is just a pain, having to convert every number. That's about it.
mph I can handle but don't start expressing peoples hights in 2 different units at the same time.

[hasty thunder]

HA! Found it

[thick elk]

Or as a good troll use decimal pointers on yards somewhat close to metric with a small offset.

[hasty thunder]

35 mph should be around 50 km/h iirc

[thick elk]

Oh you don't need unit conversions for that.
A road I drove on a lot with covid (normally take the train) has those as well, maximum speed 80 Km/h cat, lets bounce between 50 and 70.
Then a bit further down a truck and some people are desparate to overtake it even though the truck is not the problem.

[hasty thunder]

i'd simply hit the throttle hard and overtake it

[thick elk]

Still mph is pretty easy to get used to on the road, just make sure the speedometer is set to the right unit and look at the number on the sign.
other imperial things are more annoying as you actually should convert them.

[hasty thunder]

3 ft ≈ 1 meter

[thick elk]

The opportunities to overtake are very limited on that road.

[old marlin]

fahrenheit

[hasty thunder]

[old marlin]

"0 is cold and 100 is hot" is my favourite way of measuring weather

[hasty thunder]

lol

[old marlin]

especially if it goes above and below those

[hasty thunder]

dude got a stroke once again

[old marlin]

[thick elk]

Feet inches to me is the worst, also the fact that you cannot easily convert volume to weight of a lot of substances that are roughly equal density to water which is a lot of things.

[old marlin]

obviously we should use a measurement based on an somewhat arbitrary salty slush and body temperature

[old marlin]

volume to weight is stupid

also "fluid ounces" being a thing

[hasty thunder]

well, volume to weight is actually used in a lot of industries, especially the metal industry

[old marlin]

yes

but they use fluid ounces as a part of a gallon

[hasty thunder]

i hate these recipes with "1 tea spoon"

[old marlin]

what

why

[hasty thunder]

Man, some have tea spoons bigger than normal spoons

[old marlin]

no

a tea spoon is standardized

I love not needing a weird chart and measuing cups to cook

[hasty thunder]

ok, how much would be a tea spoon of sugar i.e.? Is it like the edge of the spoon or is it like a tea spoon of sugar i'd add to my coffee?

[old marlin]

edge

always edge

yea but then you have to look up density for whatever you wanna measure with a teaspoon

since sugar for example is not the same density as salt

but also realistically it won't make a huge difference if it is a bit too much or too little

[hasty thunder]

why dafuq do i suddenly have an urge for apple chips?

[old marlin]

is the m3 that enticing

[hasty thunder]

hm?

oh, not these

[old marlin]

it's an apple chip

[hasty thunder]

damn it

[reef patrol]

[hasty thunder]

@reef patrolis it also tech if i share my "toys" here, which are actually packed with a ton of tech?

[old marlin]

[fair gull]

then get killed one day by a speznaz op

[analog sinew]

"kinetic risk mitigations" is funny

[analog sinew]

are there any left?

[fair gull]

good point

i wouldnt know

[analog sinew]

they might all be fertilizer around avdiivka for all i know

[crisp granite]

this will seem like an odd question

but do people not eventually memorise what US customary measurements translate to?

cups, tbsp, tsp, pint, quart, ounce, both solid and fluid, etc

[fair gull]

they shouldnt translate to anything lol

[halcyon moss]

3 feet is about a meter, 1.6km is about a mile. thats it

[fair gull]

they should be relative measurements

[crisp granite]

EYOOOOOOO

a day celebrating the greatest fermented veggie

[fair gull]

cooking in imperial is just using the same set of items for the recipes

[analog sinew]

daily reminder that the us introduced metric in like 1978 and never followed up on it

[fair gull]

they did

their entire country is based on metric

all their units are defined by metric units

[analog sinew]

yeah but they still use that shite

[fair gull]

"only" public facing

also not sure if its possible to just switch over everything at this stage

[crisp granite]

the only metric US standards are 7.62x51, 5.56x45, 9x19, and more recently

7.62x39mm

[analog sinew]

and 9mm

[crisp granite]

9x19...

[analog sinew]

i cant read

ok

[crisp granite]

there is like a bajillion "9mm"

[analog sinew]

ofc

[crisp granite]

9x17, 9x18, 9x19, 9x21, 9x53

etc

[analog sinew]

its a conspiracy by big adapter i tell ya

[autumn parcel]

I dented the plastic, will that have any effect? Should i switch it out?

Its where you pinch the pinchers if you cant see the damage

Cool thanks

[cursive summit]

https://t.co/pxv21O65lq

3076 Single-Core Score
11863 Multi-Core Score

Good single core result, meh multicore

I know Geekbench isn't in any way representative of performance really, but it's funny that they are losing even here

Ah yeah even Snapdragon X Elite beats this lol, by quite a bit

[boreal kiln]

asus has had 120hz proart displays for a bit now

[cursive summit]

HOLY SHIT

https://stability.ai/blog/stability-ai-enhanced-image-apis-for-business-features#:~:text=Stability AI is pleased to introduce a private,image or illustration%2C or writing a text prompt.

Prompt to 3D AND image to 3D is here

I really didn't think we were going to touch the 3D generation yet

[rough osprey]

still such a big gap

damn

[ashen spindle]

ofc

old card dont vanish

even if amd had 100% of sales the till next release that wouldnt remove the nvidia cards already in circulation and all

[cursive summit]

What was far more interesting

Windows 11 is coming to its end, somehow, already, and it's not as popular as Microsoft would like

I hope that people have actually lost faith in Microsoft and will refuse to just blindly "upgrade" to a newer OS which honestly just functions inferiorly

[thick elk]

Do note that the steam survey is always a subset and sometimes chinese users get sampled more than others.
So an increase of windows 10 is most likely just a change in the users sampled.

[cursive summit]

Not really talking about the increase

More just the general popularity of 11

You'd hope that 11 would at this point be more popular than 10, as Microsoft at least

Whereas it seems it's far less popular, and I wonder what would be the cause

[thick elk]

windows 8 never got more market share than windows 7 for starters.

[rough osprey]

probably cuz most people dont have pcs that can use w11

at least officially

[thick elk]

also hardware requirements are a real factor, a lot of older cpu's are still in use.

[cursive summit]

Indeed that was my first reasoning

But I doubt that's the case though

All Zen+ and Intel 8000 series coffee lake CPUs, or older, support 11

I have my doubts that people are still stuck on Kaby Lake lol

[thick elk]

You know there are still a lot of skylake and kaby lake systems out there.

There are still a lot of systems where tpm was not enabled

[cursive summit]

But.. why

[thick elk]

Because they function just fine, if you are not going to play the latest games they are fine.

[cursive summit]

Zen 2 is like 100$ for a whole 4-6 core package and a motherboard lol

[halcyon moss]

Sure, but something new when the old one still does fine

[thick elk]

You know building your own is still a minority, and there are a lot of casual users.

[halcyon moss]

Vex hot take

[cursive summit]

There are outlying factors why this is not the case though

51% of people are on 16gigs of RAM?

[halcyon moss]

That more than I expected

[cursive summit]

16gigs wouldn't be a thing on an old machine

[thick elk]

my 3570k had 16gb of ram

[cursive summit]

These combined is like over 70% lol

Windows 11 should be available to those people

[thick elk]

But also remember tpm on self build pc's was not enabled by default for a long time.
If those people don't enter the bios they will not get the update.

[cursive summit]

Windows did have a guide how to enable tpm to get 11

Again I am more inclined to think people just don't want to upgrade

[halcyon moss]

Win 10 runs fine

Yeah eol is a reason for me to update

[safe needle]

Wasnt win10's support goin out in urrr 2025? Or was it 26? Still usin it 😅

[cursive summit]

10 LTSC will go out of support in 2031

But not sure how the switch from normal 10 to LTSC is supposed to take place, didn't check that

Aaand I couldn't care less

Staying on 10 until Microsoft improves or Linux stops being shite

[true forge]

Microsoft improves

😭🤣

[cursive summit]

Or, unlikely, Apple actually stops being an oppressive asshole and embraces gaming

Giving Linux a 50% chance, Microsoft 40 and Apple 10

So eh.. as much as I hate it, over the upcoming decade I'll have to re-learn Linux

[crisp granite]

they have been

I was playing RE8 on my macbook...

[cursive summit]

Nowhere near good enough

[crisp granite]

fuck it
we streamin

vexxsie, baby
I will SHOW YOU

how good mac gaming has become

[cursive summit]

Don't care

[crisp granite]

frankly
I think it's just that no one, barring capcom, is even trying

Capcom <3

haven't got separate ways yet
will do so on my macbook

...steam client is still an intel application running through rosetta 2

...we've had M series since...2018? now?

still an intel build
and for whatever reason
sucks the juice

like...this shit ain't hard

I shouldn't have to use an emulated browser to launch my native versions of games

[thick elk]

Just wish Apple would keep supporting Safari on other operating systems.
Makes debugging apple specific issues a lot more convenient.

[cursive summit]

Chromium is shit so, unsurprising

[steep creek]

edge is chromium😁

[cursive summit]

It's also shit

[safe needle]

aha 😄

[crisp granite]

just use safari

preinstalled on all your devices and a solid browser anyway

[cursive summit]

I have no clue how that is, and I don't care

Firefox is my beloved

[steep creek]

i would use arc, will when it comes to windows

[cursive summit]

If I had to ditch Firefox, which will be never, I will be using Vivaldi

Vivaldi is absolutely incredible, the featureset is insane

[rough osprey]

i love chrome 😄

[cursive summit]

Not sure why cause it's a really badly working browser tech

Consumes way too much ram, slow as fuck in my experience

Don't like it, don't want to use it

[rough osprey]

ram not a Problem for me

and does everything i need without waiting

and looks good

and nice cross platform

[analog sinew]

how those cheap airlines are a thing in current year is beyond me

[cursive summit]

And why it's good

Although I'd still rather use Vivaldi over Firefox probably, I just really can't be bothered to switch

[rough osprey]

firefox is giving me old people vibes

[cursive summit]

Well yes, that's why it's good

It's old fashioned but that's why it works well

Modern bloat is just unneeded for a browser

That's why Opera GX is just 🤢

[rough osprey]

ye gx is shit

and their social media guy

hm dont like Vivaldi look

[cursive summit]

Their Twitter manager is pretty damn great

[cursive summit]

K, keep coping

[rough osprey]

looks just very important for me in software :/

[cursive summit]

Did you at least download it

It's really damn good

[rough osprey]

i tried the app

but im also not missing anything in chrome

so

[fickle ore]

Is it worth to get the 500gb version of Meta Quest 3?

[ashen spindle]

probably not

unless you have something in mind for using lots of storage on it

[fickle ore]

Ah so the cheaper model is fine. Ok good. I guess it always uninstalls a game after you pla y something else

[ashen spindle]

if you even use the games on it and not just linked to pc

[fickle ore]

Right. Price difference is big enough that the decision is meaningful

[gusty kiln]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1759575-REG/toshiba_hdwg31gxzsta_n300_nas_16tb.html

16tb for 147

[reef patrol]

CMR as well.

[gusty kiln]

seems like the only con is that they are louder than WD or Seagate

but if you have your own server closet, then it's a non-issue

[graceful lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CafNK6efFfA

bro where was this

[crystal halo]

Completely slipped under my radar too lol

[crystal halo]

And of course since it’s final mouse its sold out and the batch they sold back in August has been delayed again and again

They were supposedly planning on batch #2 ready for sale in November but that’s pushed back too

[crystal halo]

@astral haven Turning in for bed a little later than usual, stayed up to watch the end of the World Series, but just figured I’d give ya a day-in-the-life-of-Qerlak’s-Ultra-2:

32 hours since I took it off the charger, and I’ve used 37% of the battery, with middle screen brightness setting and the always on display enabled. (Obviously the AOD was off throughout the night when I was sleeping due to the sleep tracking mode)

I’ve been very pleasantly surprised with the battery life on this watch, so much nicer than the charge-every-day series 7 I replaced

[astral haven]

Very nice

[crystal halo]

Can genuinely go on a weekend trip and not bring the charger

Obviously it’s no multi week garmin but I’ll take it lolll

[rough osprey]

https://twitter.com/SnazzyLabs/status/1719945810711093433?t=j5o9d1EEVZc_Ha2TmoRwGA&s=19

lol

[reef patrol]

[raw zephyr]

my gshock lasts me 6 months in darkness on full solar charge ;d

[rough osprey]

my automatic watch last .... when im wearing it

[old marlin]

Automatic

Gotta have it

[raw zephyr]

anyone who knows audio? looking to move away from audient evo 4 for output, considering Topping DX3 Pro+ and PA3s stack for my headphones and speakers and keeping the evo4 for xlr mic

[cursive summit]

Toppings are pretty good

[misty saffron]

depends on your tastes, i generally like salami and tomatoes on my pizza

[cursive summit]

As far as headphones go, JDS has prolly some of the best budget choices

Very high community regard of JDS at least

[rough osprey]

i can recommend dx3 pro+

no problems at all

[raw zephyr]

what about xlr audio interface? anything from topping?

actually the Topping MX 5 looks like a nicer device for my use case

[cursive summit]

Best audio interface in the game is RME ADI-2

Absolute quality

[raw zephyr]

yeah i'm not a freak i just want something that can process my voice into the pc

[cursive summit]

Focusrite Scarlett?

Does everything, not great but, kind of a cheap all rounder

[solemn remnant]

focusrite scarlett, roland rubix22

[mild dome]

I must shill Burson because it is an Ozzie company

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/sZ22YulJwao

LOL he owns 1.zip/

infinite powaaahhhh mhahahaha

[halcyon moss]

zip domain was a mistake

[solemn remnant]

internet was a mistake

[latent mural]

does finalmouse have a software?

or does it only do browser

[wheat plume]

wait wait....did youtube block yt-dlp????

[reef patrol]

...sure

[shadow minnow]

I wonder how powerful would wifi.ax be

[wheat plume]

oooofffff

[raw zephyr]

no

[wheat plume]

dafuq

[cursive summit]

Not bad, they actually made E-cores good

[shadow minnow]

Question is if not having OS scheduling won’t have potential negative impacts

[cursive summit]

Uh.. no?

[shadow minnow]

Like game instructions going through E cores so being slower

[cursive summit]

Seems these are pretty damn good for low power workloads

Which is funny cause E-cores are ass

[analog sinew]

mmh efficient and gaming, my fav features

[shadow minnow]

E cores are how you design them to be

[cursive summit]

Well yes Intel designed them to be useless

AMD just.. took the concept and made it good

[shadow minnow]

Intel designed them to actually be efficient for low power tasks

So you don’t have to consume much power when just browsing

But yes they as a result don’t help with high power tasks

[cursive summit]

I will need a good source on them actually doing anything

Cause as far as I know, they actually hinder the P-cores

[ashen spindle]

Amd did the same just in a better way

[shadow minnow]

Will they still be as low power consuming for very simple tasks is my only question

[ashen spindle]

You think too highly of the intel e cores lol

[cursive summit]

Listen to quin lol

E cores are pretty damn useless

[shadow minnow]

Hmm very possible tbf it’s been some time since I last looked at proper benchmarks

I guess I am thinking of what E cores should be instead of what they are lol

[ashen spindle]

no I think you are mixing things up

zen c cores are the same ISA just made to never clock as high thats how they can take less area but have the same performance on lower power

so no lack of AVX512 or bad scaling when going to lower power

thats why the lanes are basically the same, because they are the same core one just is for more power the other for less power optimized

that is why they dont need a hardware scheduler because it doesnt make it worse if it runs on the small cores

[steep creek]

neat

[latent mural]

What’s the first thing I should upgrade on my pc?

[analog sinew]

at that point, everything tbh

[nimble canopy]

get a ssd

[reef patrol]

What Tak said. It's a prebuilt. and I bet HP used -all- the proprietary parts they could get away with.

You could potentially double the RAM for a small boost in games that need more RAM.
You could -maybe- switch out the graphics card, but the power supply probably can't handle it, nor will the power supply have the correct cables (and the motherboard might in some cases outright block other graphics cards)

[nimble canopy]

the real upgrade for memory would be not being stuck at 2133 MT

[reef patrol]

Wouldn't do much. You'd get 2400mhz at best.

Those BIOS'es typically are locked to JEDEC.

[ashen spindle]

Yeah remember old intel boards they didn’t allow memory oc on lower boards

[reef patrol]

Not even an Intel thing. Just HP being HP.

No option for a Mhz change, let alone XMP profiles or OC.

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but even without hp bios intel locked it down

[astral haven]

It's likely single channel tho so it could be a big upgrade

Especially for an i5

[reef patrol]

Suppose so. And not terribly difficult to find a stick that matches close enough used anywhere.

We used to harvest DDR3 sticks from machines and had a whole rack of them. I assume they're still doing the same for DDR4 now.

[astral haven]

Yup and since it's jdec it's even easier

[gusty kiln]

https://www.fiio.com/BTR15

[astral haven]

340mw isnt that much

[vagrant pagoda]

and thats only with 32 ohm balanced

its only 50mw at 300 ohm

[gusty kiln]

the naming convention is bad, meant to be an update to the BTR5

so a BTR7 upgrade would be BTR17

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean thats more than a btr7

[astral haven]

4v into 300 ohm is actually alot tho

[gusty kiln]

I'm sure they'll be able to pump more with a BTR17

but FiiO has been cranking out products like crazy recently

[astral haven]

depending on price this could be a real nice unit, balanced for use with super sensitive stuff (too sensitive for apple dong) could be nice

[vagrant pagoda]

i love my utws

[astral haven]

utws cant drive andromedas afaik

[vagrant pagoda]

are the low impedance?

[astral haven]

dunno, just like 130db of sensitivity

oh yea they are 6 ohms jesus christ 🤣

94db at 11mv/.02mw

[vagrant pagoda]

Jebus

Gonna have to run them at like volume 1

[astral haven]

yea they are known for being particularly awful to drive thanks to the hiss

what isnt known for that tho is

gimme da harman

[vagrant pagoda]

I have some cheap ass 10mm DD on them

[astral haven]

hola?

[vagrant pagoda]

Idk

I forget lol

[astral haven]

if it looks like this its the hola

the hola is their only single driver iem afaik

[vagrant pagoda]

Oh I didn't say it was that brand

They are chinas

My custom tips for my Sony's died

So I can't use them

[astral haven]

oh i thought you said from them

oops

i kinda want an ierz1r but i also didnt want to spend more than $200

[ashen spindle]

hahahhahahahahahahaha amd firing shots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8EpkvWZ6bU

[astral haven]

yup

exceeept, intel actually has full bandwidth links between chiplets glued units...

[ashen spindle]

yeah I was hoping that would be a hyperlink to the glue powerpoint xD

would be so funny

[vagrant pagoda]

My normal at m7s

[astral haven]

yup

but yea amd per core BW is like 70-80GB
intel is like 150G?

[vagrant pagoda]

Idk about going the m9/z1r

Isn't it id take them out of the house

[ashen spindle]

there is slides about that too, starts at like 46:15

obv their numbers but some theorhy and some actual tested numbers

[astral haven]

not bw/ core

per core bandwidth

actually hugely different numbers unfortunately

[ashen spindle]

sure but it's also for different things, not all applications scale better with one or the other

I just really like the dig back at intel, didnt watch the full video yet

[astral haven]

sure but imagine we had that max per core bandwidth of 70GB available to all 64 or 96 cores at the same time

hbm lets goooo

[ashen spindle]

you'll get mi300 soon enough

if you can pay for it

presentation has some other neat things though

zen4 vs zen4c design

[vagrant pagoda]

Mars?

[reef patrol]

Uranus?

[astral haven]

nah, amd version

[vagrant pagoda]

Ah

Oh yeah mars had 3

[astral haven]

i believe this was the last dual gpu to be the fastest single card?

[vagrant pagoda]

My 290xs drew 450w each

[astral haven]

not stock they didnt

[vagrant pagoda]

Oh yeah

But ref pcb

[astral haven]

this is noooooot a ref pcb 🤣

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah just saying that 580 for a dual 380 is nothing

A single ref 290x would do 400w easy

[astral haven]

not stock oob

ion the point is that people were complaining about the power usage of modern gpus stock

and they aint got nothing on this

especially since this also probably idles well over 200w

that im curious to find out tho

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but it's still 450w

Which you've been able to push gpus to for a while

[astral haven]

again tho the point is the pulling it out of the box, plugging into the pc, and immediately getting that power draw without oc

as an end user

[vagrant pagoda]

The only issue with the draw is the stupid new connector

I never melted a 6+8 at 400w+

[astral haven]

people were complaining before the new connector

[astral haven]

and some people have btw

[vagrant pagoda]

With good cables?

[astral haven]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[vagrant pagoda]

I'm just asking lol

[astral haven]

but no the connector doesnt matter

[vagrant pagoda]

I've drawn shit tons though my psus, never had an issue

[astral haven]

its just the circuitry behind it

[vagrant pagoda]

And same with all the XOC people i know/talk with

[astral haven]

shitty vrm = poor load balancing

gotta remember the 3090ti drew waaaaay more power than the 4090

but because the 4090 was missing load balancing, the connector would shove all the power through just part of the connector

[vagrant pagoda]

Why I'm a big fan of single rail

[astral haven]

single rail actually makes this problem worse

unless you have per pin current monitoring

ax1600i best

[vagrant pagoda]

If the GPU has 1 12v input plane for the connectors the pins will balance

If one has a bad connection it will heat up and pass less current

[astral haven]

except

1. heating up will cause it to pass more current
2. more current has to pass through the other pins of the connector
3. there can be a substantial difference even with perfect connection

[vagrant pagoda]

Wont the connector heat faster than the pin causing it to get worse connection?

[astral haven]

nah the pin heats faster, the connector just melts faster

[vagrant pagoda]

The pin is solid though

Who knows though the only time I've ever seen a minifit burn is from water or poor quality cables

[astral haven]

same story for 12 pin tho

[azure kelp]

anyone know how I can type f3 + g using my wooting 60HE?

it doesn't seem to be working

[gusty kiln]

https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/1720085704997568718

Shrout eyeing for a position at AMD?

[hasty thunder]

wonder who you're trying to fool. The 290X had 6+8 Pin power delivery and 8+8

[ashen spindle]

maybe shrout found his integrity again after leaving intel lmfao

[hasty thunder]

the absolut maximum it was able to draw was 300 and 375W

[gusty kiln]

[vagrant pagoda]

You can easily pull over 400 watts with the stock bios

[astral haven]

um no

you can draw 1kw through dual 8 pin actually quite easily as long as the manufacturer doesnt limit you

[vagrant pagoda]

Modifying the BIOS you can get close to 500 watts

[astral haven]

^ and thats on ambient

[vagrant pagoda]

I ran about 425 to 450 while gaming

The connector only limits the stock wattage

[astral haven]

this

[vagrant pagoda]

And it only limits it if you want to put the PCI Express logo on the box

Which is why things like the epower and elmor power board will draw triple+ the pcie sig rated out of a 8 pin

[azure kelp]

ohhh ok thank

[vagrant pagoda]

A single 8 pin is 150w by the pcie sig, or 325w by molex

[astral haven]

and thats with zero airflow

[vagrant pagoda]

Back to the video a quad 8pin can draw easily 1500w without major issues wiring wise

[astral haven]

yup

but so could a 3x12p

and the 3x12p is less board and cabling area

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah by a minifit is easier to install correctly lol

[astral haven]

wasnt a problem on the 12 pin

only the 16 pins have issues

[vagrant pagoda]

They really should of made it a 6+6 instead of the dumb ass sense setup

[astral haven]

the 12 pin was technically 3x4pin

was solid

[vagrant pagoda]

Eps has never needed sense pins

Idk why pcie shit wants them so bad

[gusty kiln]

Lower Decks and Gen V season finales tonight, feelsbadmans. @prisma crag Gotta find something new to look forward to on thursdays

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxwVZad00os

shame its RF only

oh geez its 3x the price of the 35-150
yikes

and the samyang 35-150 is actually parfocal not just electronically?

[vagrant pagoda]

LD live action was amazing

Def the best animated cross over

[fickle ore]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/intels-new-gpu-drivers-boost-performance-up-to-750-in-dx11

[cursive summit]

But it's more like 8%

They just added optimized drivers for games they didn't optimize before

Shite headline

[cursive summit]

Some would say it's an ad for Arc A750

[fickle ore]

they're called amd shills

[cursive summit]

What are you talking about

[astral haven]

As long as you shill for all equally it's fine in my book

[cursive summit]

Get your intel shilling somewhere else

[frozen ingot]

happy to see arc improve

[quiet tangle]

Every one of them has something good to offer imo

[astral haven]

and all have their downsides too

[cursive summit]

Well yes, AMD has CPUs... Nvidia has GPUs...

Intel has..

Uhm

Intel offers.. uhm

Idk, nothing of worthiness

[frozen ingot]

the market is in dire need of more competitors

[quiet tangle]

And I got both cpu and gpu from AMD

:(

[cursive summit]

Same as I, RX5700

Budget value!

Cause NV wants too much

[frozen ingot]

especially in the midrange segment

[quiet tangle]

6950xt

[astral haven]

only for ai and video editing

[quiet tangle]

Stupid choice

[cursive summit]

You dislike it?

[quiet tangle]

No, it's amazing

[astral haven]

for gaming it hiiiiiiighly depends on which game you play as seen here

[quiet tangle]

But I've been having frametime issues and it's been driving me absolutely nuts

[cursive summit]

Frametime issues?

[quiet tangle]

Microstutters and such

[cursive summit]

All games?

Or specific ones?

[quiet tangle]

Pretty much, except the old ones

That and R6S

[cursive summit]

Hmm

[gusty kiln]

have you tried with RTSS?

[cursive summit]

Did you try to DDU uninstall drivers completely and reinstall?

[quiet tangle]

Yep

Did both

[astral haven]

not allowed in some games btw

[cursive summit]

When'd you buy that card

[quiet tangle]

March

Too late to RMA

[cursive summit]

Well, not really?

[quiet tangle]

Oh?

[cursive summit]

Usually it's 2 years for warranty

[quiet tangle]

Huh

Well, I'll give it a few more runs and see if I can fix it myself

[astral haven]

microstutter usually isnt warranty?

[cursive summit]

If the die is faulty then just invoke warranty and tell the place you bought it from to test it

[quiet tangle]

It's just strange, it should be running fine

Gonna lower my fps cap to 144 on RTSS

[cursive summit]

Well it's AMD, it's an "inferior product"

What's your CPU and RAM looking like?

[quiet tangle]

5700x, corsair vengeance 32gb 3600mhz I believe

[cursive summit]

Rebar on or off?

[quiet tangle]

Tried both, nothing changed but it's on for now

[cursive summit]

AMD calls it SAM

[quiet tangle]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

SAM sometimes causes stutters afaik

[frozen ingot]

the ayyyymd radeon lottery tm

[cursive summit]

@quiet tangleWhat about fTPM?

[astral haven]

can always try older drivers as long as you arent needing any of the new features or game optimizations

[quiet tangle]

I forgot what that is

[astral haven]

my nano is pain on the most recent 3 drivers

[quiet tangle]

I rolled back to the old stable drivers and it did nothing either :/

[astral haven]

ftpm causes issues on linux

[cursive summit]

Well it's in the bios

[quiet tangle]

I think I have fTPM disabled though

Yeah

[cursive summit]

If it's disabled, that's odd

[quiet tangle]

Oh?

[cursive summit]

fTPM has reported problems with stutters

But if yours is off then, that's a fun case

[astral haven]

windows doesnt activate the tpm except for when you log in or open an admin password window

[cursive summit]

Are you on Win11?

[quiet tangle]

I remember hearing that, but idk if I turned it back on or not

Ughhh

Yeah

[cursive summit]

Could you perhaps go back to win10?

[quiet tangle]

I could, though I'm not too sure if it would make much of a difference except ruin my hotbar 😭

[astral haven]

they are the same under the hood it wont make a difference

[cursive summit]

Well at this point you can try anything

[quiet tangle]

True

I'#m going to try a few more fixes, if nothing else works then I'll just roll back

[astral haven]

you can try the fullscreen optimizations trick

[quiet tangle]

I did

It's just a mess lol, I'll figure it out

Honestly it's probably the motherboard

gigabyte.

[cursive summit]

Which board?

[quiet tangle]

Aorus elite ax v2

[astral haven]

eh giga boards are only bad when you are in bios or installing software

[cursive summit]

Ehh nah, that's a good ass board

[astral haven]

if you manage to boot its fine lel

[quiet tangle]

Really? I've only heard bad things about it lmao

[cursive summit]

Only idiots say that

Aorus series imo are great

Top end boards

[quiet tangle]

That and the soundcard doesn't register my microphone through the 3.5mm which is fun :)

[astral haven]

wouldnt worry about the hardware, its just the bios is hot trash and the software is atrocious

[cursive summit]

But did you install drivers

[quiet tangle]

Yep

Most recent one

[cursive summit]

Manually?

[quiet tangle]

Yes

[astral haven]

dont want to use the gigabyte drivers

[cursive summit]

If you installed audio drivers then meh

[astral haven]

make sure to get drivers from windows update

[quiet tangle]

Oh I meant the bios updates

Cause it said something about stability fixes and such, I was on a rather old version of it so I just updated it

And surprisingly nothing broke??

[astral haven]

you say that but now you are getting microstutter lel

might want to clear cmos and re set everything

[quiet tangle]

😭 Why me

[astral haven]

because you can see the microstutter

[quiet tangle]

I'll write down a checklist and go through it, see what else I can do

[astral haven]

most folks pcs ive borrowed for a bit have microstutter but they dont care

[cursive summit]

Just on the off chance, what's your SSD?

[quiet tangle]

KIOXIA

Been told that may be an issue

[cursive summit]

Model?

Kioxia is a fine brand

[frozen ingot]

sata or nvme

[quiet tangle]

Energetica? Something like that

NVME

[cursive summit]

Never heard of that

[quiet tangle]

Exceria

Sorry

[cursive summit]

https://europe.kioxia.com/en-europe/personal/ssd/exceria-nvme-ssd.html this?

[frozen ingot]

shouldn't be a read/write issue if its nvme, unless drive itself is borked

[quiet tangle]

Yeah it's that one

1tb

[astral haven]

oor if its dramless
but the kioxia there isnt dramless it seems

[cursive summit]

Not seeing anything wrong with the drive

Kioxia is fine

Isn't Kioxia just rebranded Toshiba lol

[quiet tangle]

Yep

[frozen ingot]

yeah, I've never really seen a dramless ssd for sale in stores here

[cursive summit]

I'd trust Toshiba, might just be me and japanese engineering

Culprit's prolly Windows

[astral haven]

doubt, ive never seen a store without a wd blue

[quiet tangle]

I wouldn't be surprised

Tbf the moment I got the new gpu I upgraded to windows 11 so there's no way to tell if it's the culprit

Idk

I'll write a checklist and go through it from least invasive to the most

[astral haven]

actually tho are you on whql drivers?

might want to try ddu and not manually installing drivers

[cursive summit]

Not sure if there are any reported problems on just upgrading from 10 to 11

Instead of fresh install

[astral haven]

windows update got the right drivers for my nano

[frozen ingot]

the wd blues I've seen had it, but might not apply for all

[astral haven]

gotta be careful,
wd has a controller that is dram shaped

[fickle ore]

shillest of the shills

[cursive summit]

Suck on these shillnuts

[frozen ingot]

I just go on what the specs say 😅

[astral haven]

this is dramless

[astral haven]

cant always
folks bssing about how HMB is basically like having dram

[cursive summit]

@quiet tangleAre you having issues with just games?

[fickle ore]

The GW2 boost seems interesting

[cursive summit]

Like, just stuttering?

[frozen ingot]

oh I've only seen the sata blues

[fickle ore]

BC other vendors suck at GW2 too

[astral haven]

oh yea on sata the blues were excellent
on nvme its a problem thanks to HMB

[quiet tangle]

Just stuttering, everything else runs as it's supposed to except the audio driver

[cursive summit]

Did you try running something like 3dmark to see if the card behaves properly?

[quiet tangle]

It's even happening on minecraft with optifine and such

[cursive summit]

Maybe it's some bad silicon lottery luck

[quiet tangle]

I did, still stuttered from time to time

Even after giving time for it to load shaders

[astral haven]

But where did you fall in the 3dmark rankings for your system?

[quiet tangle]

It was ages ago, I don't particularly remember

[cursive summit]

Minecraft is on openGL iirc, but you said you stutter on Siege and that's directx/vulkan

Really unsure what the problem is

[quiet tangle]

Same

[cursive summit]

Like, reinstalling Windows and DDU'ing drivers again and again until it maybe improves seems like a solution

[astral haven]

It's likely amd

My friend with the 6900xt had the same issue

[quiet tangle]

Siege hasn't stuttered at all for me, runs smooth except for new driver installations

[quiet tangle]

Plenty seem to have

[cursive summit]

Which API?

Vulkan?

[quiet tangle]

I believe so

Let me check

[cursive summit]

So it's fine on Vulkan but not directx or openGL

[quiet tangle]

Nope wait

[cursive summit]

Anyone who plays siege should run the game on Vulkan

Just a far better experience

[quiet tangle]

Oh

I never knew that lmfao

I should change that then

[cursive summit]

Lol so you were on directx then

There goes that

[quiet tangle]

It's honestly fine, I appreciate the help but I reckon it's just bad luck honestly

If I go insane and lose my mind, I can always fork over my money to the man with the leather jacket

[fickle ore]

Btw does anyone update realtek drivers from their website?

[astral haven]

Windows update generally works best

The customized drivers also leave off the low latency modes

[frozen ingot]

I would probably check the motherboard manufacturers website for that

[fickle ore]

Wdym? The network driver I have is dated 2022. Doesnt seem to get patched via windows update. The newest one is nearly 1 year newer. Hmm.

[frozen ingot]

but I haven't used the built-in audio on a motherboard in 15+ years at least now

[fickle ore]

What low latency modes?

[astral haven]

Lower than 10ms

[fickle ore]

Ooh you mean audio prob?

[astral haven]

Oh yea

[fickle ore]

So you get lower than 10ms via WU but not on their own site?

[astral haven]

Are you stuck with a realtek nic?

[fickle ore]

Yeah Ive got a 2.5gbe nic

[astral haven]

Sometimes yea

Mine has a 3.5ms mode that real can activate

[fickle ore]

https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/pc-audio-codecs-high-definition-audio-codecs-software

god their site sucks

[cursive summit]

You suck too

[astral haven]

I always download my drivers from Intel or nvidias website, and disable everything else

For nics

[fickle ore]

Yeah that's prob easier imma try that

[crisp granite]

@ashen spindle, deckard copium?

[cursive summit]

What's going on with deckard

[ashen spindle]

nothing currently

[frozen ingot]

I have it

haven't gotten that far though

[crisp granite]

expect anything soon?

[cursive summit]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-11-1

https://sonyinteractive.com/en/sony-interactive-entertainment-to-acquire-isize-a-uk-based-company-specializing-in-deep-learning-for-video-delivery/

Uh.. but why

SIE doesn't do media?

[reef patrol]

I read that as Racist Kratos at first.

And with that thumbnail... checked out ngl

[cursive summit]

Kratos is racist though

He's offensive towards gods

Emo buff man with food colouring on his body goes on a rampage against religious folk to kill their gods

What a bigot

[halcyon moss]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-tealc-stargate-gif-4496552

[cursive summit]

https://www.fiio.com/BTR15

New FiiO product

[hasty thunder]

5.1... i'm not impressed or amused

what's the point of 5.1 when there are headphones out there which can easily take 5.3 LE?

lol

312 kB/s or 2 MB/s are a huge difference

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/supercomputers/instinct-mi300-could-be-fastest-product-to-dollar1-billion-in-amd-history

https://www.rxddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/17lzzdv/tv_tcl_55_class_6series_4k_miniled_uhd_qled_dolby/

400$ still for a miniled

[astral haven]

thats only if you use sbc
and these try to make you avoide sbc
also LE audio is pretty awful for the moment
this unit can and does support 990kbps
LE audio maxes at 345kbps

[crisp granite]

...damn
ok
glad I hold...something around 1k shares

[cursive summit]

You bought 1k shares?

That is insane lol

[crisp granite]

not as much as you'd think

[cursive summit]

Mate, that's a 100 grand

In USD

[crisp granite]

besides
I didn't buy em at 100

[crisp granite]

represents a decent chunk of my savings and investing over the past decade

[cursive summit]

AMD is honestly a no-sell anytime soon

I can easily see them quintupling eventually

[crisp granite]

they're not a sell for at least the next few quarters

let's see if those prospective sales materialise

[cursive summit]

In AI AMD should do better than NV

[astral haven]

yet they dont

[cursive summit]

They have better tech for AI, imo

[astral haven]

its really a shame they forget to write the software to make use of the hardware properly

[ashen spindle]

which sucks for consumer market but not as much for where that gets put

[astral haven]

nah not just that

cublas gets about double the perf/flop vs aocl

and in ai, cublas can get even further ahead

then add in actual cuda, and the gap gets wiiiiide

[ashen spindle]

which is what people get around to port things and make it run regardless and there will be cases where the raw hardware of mi300 will just beat whatever cuda tries to do

[astral haven]

sure but not ai

and you cant really port around the blas libraries

[thick elk]

I wonder the use of Opus as a bluetooth codec is going to be more widespread, has a good reputation for sounding transparent at lower bitrates and is low latency.
Google implemented it but not much outside of that.

[ashen spindle]

we will see more about it soon and then we know what it can really do or not

SC23 is this month and Ai day is dec 6

[astral haven]

qualcomm just too much of a monopoly 😦

[astral haven]

thats true, but theres a toooon of work to be done

[ashen spindle]

but it is being done

[astral haven]

is it?

you know its really bad when the libertarian ai crowd is buying nvidia to build servers

[thick elk]

Also they should have made opus the standard instead of what they did with le audio.
It was an open codec already with a proven record lc3 just seems somewhat stupid.

[astral haven]

believe its more about power used

lc3 is designed around hardware decode units being small and low power afaik

[thick elk]

Opus can be used on low complexity / low power, they just tested it using an older version of opus when a more recent version improved things. Also their testing focused on very low bitrate voice instead of higher bitrate music.

[astral haven]

low power on a cpu

but how easy is it to build a chip for it?

afaik it hasnt been done yet

[ashen spindle]

well the best indicator will be what companies will amd show when presenting the mi300, that used to use nvidia or now use both

[thick elk]

They choce it over opus for audio quality not resource usage.
however the tests themselves were a bit suspect.

[astral haven]

?

🤷 no clue, ive only played around with the foss stuff

[astral haven]

they chose it because it was already implemented and ready for them, as well as having hardware encoders and decoders already in every modern chip

seems not then

[gusty kiln]

no

what is it about

hmmmm

[astral haven]

It's apparently a ripoff of a series I've already read 😦

[true quest]

add it to the list

[wheat plume]

How TF has humanity figured out how to embed a tiny piece of plastic with 1.5tb of storage???

[crisp granite]

considering I have a 4TB M.2 in my grasp
technological innovation is to blame

curses
humans just keep improving tech

to think they ran a moon landing on what is effectively an abacus

[wheat plume]

I really need to look up how SD cards store data

They are so thin

[final flame]

it's the same as all flash storage devices

it's all about how densely packed you can make it

[ashen spindle]

It’s the same as an SSD just no big cache or anything

[astral haven]

its probably the same as the micron drive that is 30MB/s

[crisp granite]

SSDs have gotten so wonderfully cheap lately

I never would have dreamed of getting a 4TB SSD for less than what I paid for a 1TB...not too long ago

even if it is a slow gen 3 NVMe SSD, dang
HDDs really shouldn't be an option outside of data hoarders and NASes

[astral haven]

what makes me really sad is how few cfexpress type a cards there are

and cameras that use it

[gusty kiln]

https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/combo-displayport-usb-c-kvm-with-usb-power-delivery

GIGA-KVM

But $$$$

[astral haven]

@prisma crag
Just got myself the "full frame" Sony 11-18mm!

Here it is at 10mm

But it actually is full frame coverage at 11mm

Just had to take out this doood

1 fewer mm for 1/10 the price of the Canon for the same aperture

You also don't get to have a lens hood
And the iq definetly requires correction

What beautiful straight lines 😦

[old marlin]

https://nitter.net/Khal1dQT/status/1720359824016158999

he doesn't even name the deboucne setting of mice that have it

and then clumps together people that don't know what it is with people that have mice without a debounce setting (which is most mice)

[hasty thunder]

almost every mouse made for gaming has a debounce time programmed?

[old marlin]

well yea they have some kind of debounce programmed

doesn't mean you can adjust it as a user

[hasty thunder]

some allow you to, but yeah, that's a rare thing

[old marlin]

I'm not saying he should tell us what debounce algorithm they use, just what setting they are on if they have one

(especially since some firmwares don't actually scale 1:1 with debounce setting)

[hasty thunder]

i mean most gamers simply don't fiddle around with the debounce anyways nor do they know what it is or does

but i get Lamzus point that Opt did a meh job of transparency

[old marlin]

if optimum tech only does what most gamers do then why bother reviewing any mouse

especially something as niche as an ULX

[cursive summit]

A fuck ton of profit

https://vxtwitter.com/ryanshrout/status/1720185343763251442

34% down on Mac is a pretty big indicator for Apple that something needs to be done, no?

M3 doesn't seem like the solution

[fair gull]

i think people just realized the m1 and m2 arent all too different so why buy again

[old marlin]

linus sure liked the m3

will totally be different this time /s

[fair gull]

id say m1 may macbooks may get some benefit from upgrading to m3 but the m2 to m3 difference is basically just like m1 to m2 was imo

but all of this will truly be shown when benchmarks are out

i would have been tempted if they did a 13" with touchbar but its actually dead now

[ashen spindle]

Yeah in hindsight it makes sense why they still compared it to pre m1 macs

Because m3% ipc ain’t getting m2 owners to upgrade

[reef patrol]

It's ironic how the single most innovative thing to come out of Apple was quashed like that 😄

(Ignoring the ARM platform shift)

[fair gull]

i see why the touchbar was removed but really loved it overall

[reef patrol]

It was the one thing design wise that really set them apart from everyone else. Everyone's got a Macbook clone these days with the super sharp, minimalist look.

[fair gull]

yeah i can see that

[ashen spindle]

Yeah it’s like intel 14th gen lol

[reef patrol]

There's always buyers for older Macs.

I swear we sold so many 2013? model Air and Macbooks back pre-covid. Refurbished with minimal scratches. It had become "the" laptop to own for any kind of post high-school student for better or worse.

[cursive summit]

https://www.techpowerup.com/315384/samsung-said-to-be-increasing-nand-pricing-by-20-per-quarter

https://vxtwitter.com/Tech_Reve/status/1720279974748516729

Damn, what a partnership

Why Qualcomm though

Samsung makes sense since Exynos uses AMD's graphics IP

Qualcomm.. doesn't really have anything to do with AMD afaik

Unless this is a strategic partnership to enable Qualcomm to use AMD's FidelityFX technologies on the upcoming Snapdragon Elite processors and on smartphones

Since AMD's tech isn't really a thing on smartphones yet

Not upscaling

[fair gull]

dlss is also more code than tech

[cursive summit]

Technically all toggleable tech is more code than hardware

[fair gull]

well it can run without its just an ai network right

but yes we tend to build hardware to accelerate graphics tasks specifically

[cursive summit]

AMD I suspect will also tweak FSR to use AI

[fair gull]

optimizing the math behind it

[cursive summit]

It doesn't

[fair gull]

im unsure how gated it is software wise

[cursive summit]

It's hardware gated

We had this talk before, DLSS uses Turing's hardware at minimum, DLSS3 requires Ada hardware

[fair gull]

well yes but in theory the ai models should be able to run on anything

just not as fast

[cursive summit]

FSR I hope will get some kind of AI mode since AMD finally caught up to CUDA and has AI cores

Big expectations for XDNA

[fair gull]

id hope they keep software only and just have ai acceleration as an option

[cursive summit]

Thing is FSR2 is far different from ReShade just cause you know, it actually requires developer implementation lol

FSR1 was a cool portable upscaler, not great, not horrible

FSR2 isn't portable so more software doesn't use it

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/2/23943724/amazon-project-nessie-algorithm-ftc-antitrust-case

[ashen spindle]

you need a lot more than just throwing some random xilinx IP on a gpu to say they caught up to cuda lmfao

[cursive summit]

XDNA is pretty alright though

[ashen spindle]

And dlss uses the tensor cores so in its current form it would not run on any gpu, probably could be rewritten for lower performance though

Yes Xilinx did well before it got bought, that doesn’t mean suddenly rocm is equal to cuda

[cursive summit]

I'd argue that ROCm is potentially better than CUDA

Just needs support, which it doesn't

[ashen spindle]

„This could be better than the other thing, if only they made it better“

[cursive summit]

Well, hard to make it better when better comes in many ways

AMD has done well so far to make ROCm actually a valid competitor

But software support costs a fuck ton more and AMD is rather not big

[ashen spindle]

It is not better currently so what could be doesn’t matter for that

It’s not even about the academic learning path, that’s just a nice bonus

You can make them after but not if you don’t support older instinct cards, or 0 consumer cards

The current list of supported gpus is 2 consumer skus

Mi25 isn’t supported so Mi50 starts as the first option lol

[cursive summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/NikTekOfficial/status/1720039909384237301

Not wrong ngl

But hey it's lpdrr so it's better

[old marlin]

it's not lpddr?

[mild dome]

Apple knows that for its users it's either their way or the highway, and many are not going to take the highway

[cursive summit]

Apple uses soldered memory so it has to be lpddr?

[old marlin]

wasn't it in silicon

[reef patrol]

It's on the SOC

[old marlin]

was like hbm-ish

huh

still lpddr

[cursive summit]

I'd excuse them the pricing if it actually was on-die like HBM

Not the way it's right now

[mild dome]

It's on the package, see this picture. You can see the DDR chips right next to the CPU

This does make it faster for productivity in some cases, but charging so much for real simple upgrades is ass

Apparently, the primary reason they needed to get the RAM chips on the package was for the GPU, as modern GPUs need insane amounts of bandwidth. Although the CPU does benefit in some circumstances it probably would've been on the board if the GPU wasn't such a bandwidth hog

[cursive summit]

There's a way to fix that

dGPU

Way to avoid the argument

[cursive summit]

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/11/03/samsung-follows-iphone-15-pro-titanium-galaxy-s24/

You idiots

Stop following Apple's footsteps

[fickle ore]

https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/nokia-initiates-lawsuits-against-amazon-and-hp-over-video-technology-patents-93CH-3215909

Bad Prime. bad.

[old marlin]

is nokia just a patent troll now

[fickle ore]

Uh, no? 😛

Companies just not honoring the lisencing agreements over said tech

[old marlin]

fair

[fickle ore]

But I bet it's an annoying expense to pay for the companies

[old marlin]

was quite annoying for bbk

lol

[cursive summit]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-24.0-Faster-RADV-Vega

[analog sinew]

its 15$ worth of titanium but you can squeeze big bucks out the marketing

free money as shown buy yours truly, the masters of overcharging

[thorn cypress]

The marketing just keeps working so they won't stop

Samsung has been a nono for a while

[small verge]

is it bad that i like the new iphone

[halcyon moss]

@cursive summit NEWS
https://ileakage.com/

[cursive summit]

I am afraid to click

Is this a scam

I bit and it's good

Make apple suffer

[wheat plume]

https://youtube.com/shorts/g4qZcNHbeGI

Motorola be killing it

Has motor and roller!

[fair gull]

oh the screen replacements those devices would experience

definitely more than 2

[old marlin]

yep

I mean a release device would prob have more reinforcement than that

[cursive summit]

Rizzr?

Ew

[old marlin]

riser

[reef patrol]

You just know people are going to nickname it the rizzer

Cause you know... zoomer lingo

[cursive summit]

Pardon me, good sir, for correcting you

not "zoomer lingo" but "dictionary lingo"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rizz https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rizz

It's in the dictionary, it's in the language

[reef patrol]

It's funny how both can be true simultanously.

[cursive summit]

That is disrespectful towards all the senior citizens who go rizzing about in retirement homes

[astral haven]

Just because the seniors got rizz doesn't mean calling it rizz isnt a zoomer thing

[cursive summit]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006542/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d,-asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wifi-ii-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle

Holy moly what a bundle for 270$

[snow moon]

[cursive summit]

https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/valve-october-2023-survery-windows-10-mid-range-1080p

Well yes cause 10 is just better

I wish they could port all the scheduler improvements from 11

[old marlin]

it's better because ???

oh also ?????

[cursive summit]

Tbf the article is just a mess cause it's just a steam hardware survey summary that isn't even representative of "preferences"

But I agree that 10 is just better

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah preference and what you get are different

[astral haven]

different implies there are things that 10 has that 11 doesnt?

afaik the only advantage of 10 is being able to install it on everything under the sun

[vagrant pagoda]

I was referring to the preference of mid-range over high-end

I don't think anybody prefers mid-range I think they can afford mid-range lol

Given the option most would choose high end lol

Also only posting this because the article image is amazing

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-releases-new-adrenalin-23-11-1-driver-for-polaris-and-vega-first-in-two-months

[ashen spindle]

11 should have the mixed refresh rate monitor fix and better scheduler so 11 should just be better

[vernal bluff]

hello!

[cursive summit]

Hi, penguin

[vagrant pagoda]

That's Shinchan

[cursive summit]

I have no clue what that is

[vagrant pagoda]

What